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As tempting as becoming a disciple might seem, you're hesitant to just sign away your freedom. To make yourself a servant of some alien entity, no matter how much your servitude might be dressed up and rewarded, is an unpleasant concept to put it mildly. Thus, you change the subject. You need more time to think about this before you irreversibly bind your life to the Cat spirit's own.

Whilst admiring the massive tusk which just fell to the floor next to your chair, you speak. Out loud this time, rather than through the mental pathway you'd been using. So far as you recall, Mahana is capable of regular speech. “We shall see what I ultimately seek as a reward for my assistance, but I had other questions I wished to ask first. You see, there is this Entity which dwells within my mind. It seems mostly powerless-” Pain flashes through your skull, briefly. You wince, but don't let it deter you. “-but it can be terribly annoying. Might you have any suggestions as to how I might go about removing the presence, or any experience with similar situations?”

The cat spirit's low, rumbling voice seems to echo from all around you, no one source of his voice obvious. “I have encountered mortals possessed by spirits in the past, but in such cases the mortal was usually little more than a husk. They quickly broke down under the burden of containing a spirit's divine essence, reduced to ash in most cases. I have never heard of a spirit dwelling within the mind of a mortal, were such circumstances to occur I can only assume that the mortal would soon be driven mad, turned into a fraction of what they once were or forced to do the spirit's bidding. Since neither have of these descriptions seems to fit you, I must assume that this entity is not a spirit.”
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>>40432836
Relevent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJWrDCeOa0

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You nod, to affirm that he's correct in that assessment. “It's a mortal, or was a mortal at one point. The result of a failed ritual which sought to bring back to life a dead god. Instead-”

The Cat spirit's thundering voice cuts you off. “I am familiar. Though I was not able to see the destruction wrought in person its effects reached me, even imprisoned as I was in the caves beneath El-Amin. A horrible toll was extracted that day upon not only the mortal world but the realm of spirits as well. Many of our oldest number perished in their attempts to contain the spread of corruption. If that is the entity dwelling in your head I can tell you only this: it is feeding. It is growing its power. You ought to seek its destruction by whatever means necessary, though I am afraid I can't offer you any more than that.”

Well that's ominous. You suppose it would make sense that the Entity is using you as a readily available buffet, feeding off the excess energy you produce. Just as Mahana wishes to, come to think of it. Regardless his advice has done little save give rise to more questions. “What do you mean when you say many of you died trying to halt the spread of corruption? What corruption was that?”

Mahana lifts his head, posturing majestically as his voice fills the room. “It was long ago, but even still I remember the feeling of the corruption. It was a blight, multiplying itself exponentially no matter what efforts were taken to stop it. Spirits who so much as passed by the substance were maddened, reduced to glorified animals seeking to kill and feed and multiply. It gave rise to the greatest war since the Heresy, which saw the divine tainted by the realm of mortals. The corruption was a characteristic of the creature you mortals created. The culmination of untold millennia of tampering with forces beyond your understanding. As the creature tore itself apart, the corruption bled from its wounds.”

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Yet again you're left with more questions than you had previously by the spirit's answer. What was this Heresy he mentioned? It sounds to you as if the delirium you found within the mines of Longia gave off the same sort of corruption as the Entity at the height of its power, but if that's the case what causes the corruption? Its origin would have to predate the Entity, as the Rhynians seemed to be conducting extensive experiments using the material well before the Entity was created.

>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.
>Write-in

Excidium Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/dg0bmD0Y
Disciples Information: http://pastebin.com/kJH28fiZ

>>40432894
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?

Be right back, slept until four in the afternoon and I'm starving. Gonna grab a bite.

>>40432894
>>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.

>>40432894
Mention the Delirium

>>40432926
>>40432894
Shit, did I type Aleamondians? I meant to type Voibardians.

>>40432894
>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.

>>40432894
>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.

>>40432894
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?

>>40432894
>>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.

>>40432894
>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?

>>40432894
>>Ask about the Fall of Rhynia, what caused it?
>>Ask him about the Aleamondians, who are they?
>>Ask him about the Heresy he mentioned, what was it?
>>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.
>How do Spirits use magic?
>What is the mind?
>What is the original source of the corruption?

>>40432894
>manbearpig

u cheeky cunt

>>40432894
Seconding >>40433093
Also,
>What happened in Eludia? What was it like in the past?

>>40432894
Seconding >>40433093
>>40433135

>>40432894
this
>>40433093
>>40433135

>>40432894
Supporting>>40433135
>>40433093

>>40432894
Seconding >>40433135
>>40433093
Plus I want to ask him
>How exactly do enchantments work?
>Some information about the gods themselves.

>>40432894
>>40433093
>>40433135
>>40433268

>>40432894
>>Ask him what sort of artifacts he might be able to create, you want examples.

>>40432894
>>40433268
>>40433135
>>40433093
these

>>40433268
>>40433093
these two

>>40433093
>>40433135
>>40433268
these three

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So it seems like
>All of the above
+
>How do Spirits use magic?
>What is the mind?
>What is the original source of the corruption?
>What happened in Eludia? What was it like in the past?
>How exactly do enchantments work?
>Some information about the gods themselves.

>>40433477
Yes.

>>40433477
Post the info you posted in the ask page here as well to clear up any retarded opinions.

>>40433477
See you in a couple of weeks then.

>>40433477
>1 and a half hour later

Or you can give us a quick summary

>>40433516
He did, read the header.

>>40433516
I thought I did, didn't I?

>>40432894
Excidium Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/dg0bmD0Y (HTTP)
Disciples Information: http://pastebin.com/kJH28fiZ (HTTP)

>>40433537
>>40433545
I know i meant to put it up as a reminder for the vote.

>>40433523
Nah, this is some really important and interesting shit, I want to read it.

http://youtu.be/nuHfVn_cfHU

For anyone still on the fence or who doesn't want to be one

>>40433477
yes
>>40433523
nah fuck you. You can go.

Eleborate on >Some information about the gods themselves.

>>40433618
To be what? I'm not gonna watch that manlet I couldn't care less about his opinion or platitudes.

who /uefa/ here?

>>40433636
Don't get your panties in a bunch I meant without the dialogue and reactions

>>40433545
Wait don't tell me excidium is a story about regulus?

>>40433618
>For anyone still on the fence or who doesn't want to be a disciple

Don't know how I fucked that up

>>40433618
Still not convinced.

>>40433618
Yes, Just sell your soul to a spirit you've insulted plenty of time, who's generally a dick, and completely change your goals for the future just for some power.
Great idea mate.

>>40433770
reread the last thread.

>>40433770
How would are goals completely change? I get we have to do shit for the spirit from time to time but it doesn't seem like a huge change for are short term goals.

>>40433677
No.
I want his original dialogue and reactions + more now.
>>40433770
are you an idiot that can't read? Because it would explain a lot

>>40433770
look
>>40433545

>>40433770
He's not even that strong. He called that mirror spirit a shit tier squatter but he would have gotten rekt if we weren't there to help him. I would have considered a pact with something as strong as the water spirit considering even Var-Var respected him but not this shitter.

Then there's also the he dies, we die thing which is just unacceptable to me.

>>40433824
It would change our goals since the spirit could call on us whenever he wants, we could be deep in the pavala when suddenly he summons us to defend him. Sure we could resist, but that would put us on bad terms, and he does have the power to force us to teleport.
In addition, according to Soma, we would have quite a bit of responsibilty:
">Build shrines
>Defend the realm
>Protect their sire.
>Keep the other disciples in line
>Conquer new territory
>Recruit followers for the spirit
>Aid in certain rituals
Probably a few other things I haven't thought of yet."
Sure, we don't have to do any of those, but that would get us on bad terms with the incredibly powerful being we host in our soul.
Which seems like a bad idea imo.
Also, every time we would want to resist his summons we would have to roll for it.
In addition, if we're using his fast travel, he could trap us in his realm if he really needs something from us.
Also, we would get some physical mutations.

>>40433889
I think that was probably bad rolls behind the curtain, or soma trying to write it in a way that makes us relevent.

>>40433914
Soma said he actually got incredibly good rolls, if he hadn't the fight would have gone on for a bit longer.

>>40433908
>we could be deep in the pavala when suddenly he summons us to defend him. Sure we could resist
> Defending the Cat's realm from invasions is one such task that you will be forced to do, regardless of whatever else you're engaged in at the time. You could be just about to claim an ancient artifact from an Elaudian temple and the next thing you know you'd be standing in the center of a battleground, minions battling it out all around you. No roll, no nothing.

Personally, I don't see enough advantages to becoming a disciple. Yeah, we get more power, but we can get a lot of power on our own still.

>>40433965
I know, but Soma said that was generally unfavorable for him, as it requires him to use a lot of power. I assume he would only resort to that if we piss him off by constantly refusing his unforced summons. Or if there's an emergency.

>>40433908
>>Keep the other disciples in line
>>Conquer new territory
>>Recruit followers for the spirit
>>Aid in certain rituals
>Build shrines
These are all things that are optional.
>Defend the realm
>Protect their sire.
Are the only ones that are mandatory. In the sense that If he dies we also die if we're his disciple. So it would be retarded to not help otherwise.
You are a idiot.

>>40433908
Pretty much biggest reasons why not to do it. I could understand if he was retardedly powerful I would consider it but in his current state I would say no.

>>40433965
>>40433908

Defend his realm could be in the interest of both and I don't think its a common occurrence.

Remind that the only reason why we were able to create an anchor in the spirits realm is because we weren't a disciple.

I hate to tell you this, but some asshole just archived your thread.

>>40434072
Wrong. We'd be able to create it if we were a disciple.

>Mirza Mikhael Abdul-Hakim, Grandmaster of El-Amin, Father of Dragons, Gatekeeper of the Void, Spirit Bitch

I don't even know why you people are considering it.

>>40434027
Agreed. And we would probably be the one who is orchestrating any invasions on his behalf, at least for the foreseeable future.

Why do we even need to take this drastic step to become more powerful? We've been getting more powerful all the time and we've been doing fine so far.

>>40433908
>Keep the other disciples in line
The Spirit can handle that easily. Mik only has to do it if he feels that he wants to exert his influence as the oldest Disciple.
>Conquer new territory
Only if he wants to. The necessity will also be gone once there are more Disciples.
>Recruit followers for the spirit
He already said that he can handle that himself easily. And then there's the wargame faction idea, which would take minimal effort for Mik to implement.
>Aid in certain rituals
Only if Mik wants to get something out of it. Mahana won't mind either way.

I'm not really against or for the Disciple thing, but most of your complaints are insignificant.

>>40434072
HOLY SHIT YOU ARE WRONG. Disciples main thing is putting down anchors.

>>40434072
>lying and pulling shit out of your ass
Hell why do you think invasions are possible with spirits?
Anon the reason we got in was because mirror guy was a retard and did an area affect of bringing people inside his realm.

>>40434026
Isn't he a second tier spirit?

>>40434005
Sure, it would be retarded not to help if we become a disciple. Which is why we shouldn't become a disciple.
Once we do it, we'd have to dedicate a lot of time to doing all those things, sure, those top few things are optional, but they're all things we would need to do to either keep the spirits favor so that he doesn't start treating us like a bitch and forcing us to do everything or simply not die because the spirit was too weak to defend himself and got killed like a chump by some spirit.
Not to mention that now that the spirit has taken over some substantial power and territory, invasion could become a common occurrence.
And, I don't know if you remember this, but we do have a son to raise, companions to take care of, an entity to get rid of, businesses to start, and several quests.
I'd rather not neglect those to become some spirit's bitch.
>>40434027
It actually isn't in our interest if we don't become his disciple, you're working under the assumption that we're already going to become one.

>>40434090
>>40434103
>>40434107
He wouldn't have let us into his mind dumbasses. Disciples are really obvious.

>>40434091
>Spirit Bitch
>Not First of the Disciples of CatBro
nice try

>>40434114
He is currently weakened from his long isolation. But yeah, under normal circumstances he is very powerful as far a spirits go.

>>40434140
What the shit are you even talking about?

>>40434147
>Not free agent of Catbro
even nicer try

>>40434140
He didn't let us into his mind we got caught in a AOE spell he casted to bring his Disciples to him.

>>40434155
He isn't that strong really, there's still another tier of mortal realm spirits, and basically any void spirit would completely destroy him.

>>40434147
Yeah okay enjoy dying when he invades a more powerful spirit's realm and we're too occupied with the other disciples to help him fight.

>>40434155
So at this point high low tier second spirit?

If we add the new conquering and shrines?

>>40434159
That spirit we fucked up pulled us into his mind voluntarily for whatever reason. He would not have done so if we were a disciple, because that would be a fucking stupid thing to do. Thus, we would not have been able to create an anchor in his world.

>>40434172
>being a poor mans disciple
Nigga we are gonna basically doing everything a disciple does with out any of the benefit.

>>40434140
Right. Which is why one of the things Mahana mentioned we could be doing is >infiltrating other spirits domains< He didn't let us do shit he PULLED us in. Yeah it certainly helped that we weren't a disciple but that had nothing to do with being able to put down an anchor or not being able to get into his Realm.

>>40434192
Man invasions are a rare thing. He said that they don't happen alot anymore.

>>40434203
Oh, yeah. That's still not something we would really expect to happen very often anyway.

>>40434204
>with out any of the benefit

lmao do you even haggle

>>40434204
We're also doing it without the cost

>>40434204
No, nigger. We continue on as we have been, doing shit in exchange for knowledge of enchanting or whatever the fuck else we can barter out of him.

>>40434172
>muh freedom

Having a happy Disciple is in his best interest. Considering he is immortal, he likely has patience enough to not try and force us to do shit unless it is the most dire of situations.

>>40434133

Its in our interests because we get artifacts as a reward. Even without being his disciple I couldn't mind helping him out for that kind reward. And everything else isn't as time consuming as you are claiming it to be. We have been doing the shit with shines just fine with minimum effort and getting runes in exchange.

>>40434219
>OH, I WANT ALL THE THINGS WITH NO COST
>HAGGLING, LEL JEW

>>40434204
>forcing our priorities to change from ADVANCHURAN to I NEEDA BE CURFUL BUH DU EET FASS INCASE CATWAIFU NEED HELPS.

Yeah sorry I don't want to have the constantly hanging over our head. So how about we go for a deal with MUCH less strings attached?

>>40434239
You dirty cunt uncle Tom motherfucker, get off my 4chans.

>>40434159
Did forget that being a disciple make your soul green and that spirits actively hunt down disciples invading their territories.

>>40434216
He only needs to fuck up once for us to die along with him. How many times have we fucked up so far and literally only made it out alive because we're a water vatis? What's he gonna do, lick his ass in the middle of combat?

So diciples can be detected via soul sight or whatever, does this qualify as heresy? We gunna get double banished/hanged.

>>40434280
>Implying he's as shitty as an MC ran by 4chan
Man now your just insulting him

>>40434305
It seems like the knowledge that green soul = spirit touched is pretty damn uncommon in this day and age.

>>40434133
Anon, you're blowing things out of proportion. He said that invasions are a rare thing. A rare thing by a Spirit's standards, which could mean that it could take years or decades before the next invasion.
And there is no reason to worry about keeping his favor. Mahana also wants to maintain an amicable relationship with Mik, so he won't really care whether Mik kisses his ass or not as long as he performs his two main duties as a Disciple.

>>40434340
Great argument.

Being a disciple is so fucking stupid. Soma said it would always be a subservient relationship, never ever a partnership, so it's a stupid thing to do.

>>40434133
Everything that he wants us to do is optional.
Even his needs are optional, just require a higher d/c to oppose.
A lot of the world has been settled for a long time, so there is no reason that people would randomly start to act all of a sudden.
We're more powerful than mirror so if they didn't attack him when he was there. I doubt some one will attack Mahana, since he is more powerful.
As for our other quests, he clearly understands the priority of clearing our the entity from our mind. And our companions and son. the other quests while I am sure he understands heir significance he may choose to take priority over them but definitely not over clearing the entity from our mind.
And as for our businesses, the water plant is happening as we speak. I doubt SK will be traveling with us, as Mortia. So leaving SK/father in charge, we will get all of our plans done while we are away.
And I am sure our father won't be trying to actively steal from us. But partnering with us seems great, we're the idea guy and the start up money guy.
All he does is manage and has connections to facilitate our plans.

>>40434353
>Mahana also wants to maintain an amicable relationship with Mik

You don't know what the tricky spirit wants, for all we know he's set to conquer all the spirit lands on the continent, stop assuming shit because he's been nice to us after we saved him repeatedly.

>>40434353
Most of the shit we do are rare occurrences anon.

>>40434107
>Anon the reason we got in was because mirror guy was a retard and did an area affect of bringing people inside his realm.
Shit, is that what happened? I thought he targeted us specifically.

>>40434403
>You don't know what the tricky spirit wants
Read the pastebin.

>>40434354
Nigga he's a powerful spirit that's lasted longer then we can probably even imagine.

>>40434418
Nah, that drum circle we saw was a spell

>>40434447
>lasted

was in prison

>>40434418
yup and we were still too close to escape it.
>>40434403
Read the pastebin it states right there that the cat would want us to be happy since fucking up the relationship would also eventually fuck him over as well.

>>40434403
You mean the spirit we would be working for. Why would he trick his own Disciple?

>>40434480
I dunno, maybe because he wants to do something we don't want but he doesn't want to have to kill us and permanently destroy a portion of his power?

>>40434480
We're not his disciple yet, why would he tell us he wants to go on a warpath that would probably mean our death or that he wants to do anything else that would make us refuse before we make the pact?

>>40434472
I think I'd be cool with broing it up with cat spirit.

You can never have too many friends.

>>40434511
>but he doesn't want to have to kill us and permanently destroy a portion of his power?
Spirits can't kill their own disciples. For Christ's sake, read the goddamn pastebin.

>>40434512
>implying
You are pulling that warpath shit out of your ass. Cat is not dumb. Cat does not want to die. I doubt he will just randomly attack some strong ass spirit for the lulz.

What I want to know is will he continue to pay us for our services considering it's shit he'd expect us to be doing anyway?

>>40434530
That's what I'm looking for, being friends or partners not Master and Disciple.

>>40434552
>for the lulz

To get stronger which has been his stated goal since forever.

>>40434530
Yeah. He seems rather fond of some people if his desire to see his friend brought back when we unlocked that book is any indication.

>>40434567
Ok, i'm Not saying he doesn't want power. I'm saying your stupid warpath to his death theory is horse shit

>>40434558
He would want to keep his disciple happy. Soma has said as much. We get automatic power boosts when he does and getting artifacts is pretty much guaranteed considering the shit the disciples we fought were rocking out with them. I am sure we can get him to keep showing us runes as well.

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>Wanting to give Soma another way to sidetrack us

>>40434603
The warpath is the first thing I thought of that would disadvantage us more than it would help us, it doesn't mean its the only scenario where we get fucked by the deal.

I don't even know why there's such a huge argument over this, if he was a merchant instead and he wanted to coax us into a deal where we would be putting in work for him but not being equal partners everyone would fuck his shit up for even trying to fuck us like that.

>>40434559
>>40434568

Yeah, the only time he did something bad to us was the time we call him our property and it was only to give us a scare. We have fuck up people for less than that.

>>40434559
Anon some people here will never understand that being a Disciple is not remotely a partnership.

>>40434660
Yeah that shit was pretty cringeworthy.

>>40434660
Well technically, you see, he was on the property, and since he said we own everything in the house, and he's in the house, we own him.

Can you not agree with my flawless logic?

>>40434615
You're leaning on this keep us happy shit a lot, so far it's been offered as an excuse not only to not do any of the shit that's on our side of the contract as well as continue to keep the current payment we've been receiving in addition to the new payment of a continual power boost and status among his cult.

There's keeping a useful servant happy and then there's letting us be a freeloader.

>>40434660
>>40434714
As far as I remember it was a joke.

>>40434923
no anons were serous about it, if you read the thread some anons were making battle plans thinking we were hot shit.

>>40434923
You should see a neurologist specializing in memory disorders.

>>40434760
Meh, true enough. I mostly think Mahana is pretty bro so that is the only reason I would consider becoming a Disciple of his. I almost want to put that shit off and just keep being cool to him, setting up shrines, helping if he is invaded, ect. so we could earn more respect/affection from him if we wanted to become his Disciple latter on down the line.

>>40434923
Some people were damn serious, thinking how smart they were for finding a loophole we could exploit.

>>40434976
>>40435013
Well then they're fucking retarded, thinking they can straight up 'own' a spirit.

Someone on IRC asked: Would dying and letting the cat spirit bring you back to life destroy the entity?
No, the Entity is woven into the fabric of your mind, and wouldn't necessarily be affected by the death of your body.

>>40435067
I remember staring at my phone in the middle of a lecture thinking holy shit this is actually happening what the fuck

>>40435067
People do lots of retarded things when they get tempted with peculiar ideas at too early hours.
Not so unlike what will happen later tonight.

>>40435157
I walked away from the computer because I knew I couldn't stop the idiots.

>>40435183
To be fair if we accept it's going to be out of pure stupidity. I mean we were warned lots of times to not use crutches to advance our power and that's just what this is.

>>40435274
Soma confirmed this is a late game decision that we accidentally bumped into anon.

>>40435307
And what, that means it's a good idea to decide yes?

>>40435307
So after we GM multiple Elements.

>>40435274
no but gr8 artifacts and fast travel tho
soma totally didnt even say outright we could already get the latter in the paste
so shut up disciple all the way f yeah

>>40435333
No it means it's a little more powerful than some staff that makes nature magic better

>>40435274
Everything is a fucking crutch. Cloak? Crutch. Warlock armor? Crutch. Vys storing items? Crutch.

>>40435341
>no but gr8 artifacts and fast travel tho

Skull Kid can make artifacts that come with no strings attached and I bet Mortia can make those intangibility potions for fast travel if we let her study one.

>>40435307
But he offered to disciple us ages ago when we met him, he didn't name as such it but that was the deal prior to the superior free agent deal we negotiated.

>>40435341
You think an incoherence shitpost will make people want to be a disciple.

>>40435395
We can't take our shit with us when we're intangible. This includes the cloak. And no, we can't interact with it either.

>>40435436
Fast travel is shit either way. What, are we gonna make all our companions disciples too? Or travel alone? Fuck that.

>>40435436
Manipulate. Sorta vys intensive but we can bring shit if we really need to.

I have the sneaking suspicion that fire magic allows for teleportation.

>>40435395
>Skull Kid can make artifacts that come with no strings attached
>the guy with less than no magic can make magic items
Nigger what the FUCK are you saying. Cool technomagic shit =/= artifacts.

>>40435395
>>40435430
I see that it's already this hard to detect the most substanceless sarcasm so things probably aren't gonna go well.

>>40435478
While we travel for hours? Soma said the vys expenditure of holding up a light book would bankrupt us in five. I'm not a cat-shill. But I would like to get in on the fast travel deal.

>>40435475
Not a cat shill. But Soma literally said that we don't need to be servants or disciples to open up a portal to his realm to travel to another fief. Please read the pastebin.
http://pastebin.com/kJH28fiZ

>>40435407
Yes, that doesn't mean we didn't accidentally bump into it.

>>40435489
Why not let SK become a disciple?
>>40435497
Because sarcasm is so easy to detect on the internet.

>>40435497
Well it's obvious now that I reread >>40435341 that it was sarcasm but being a disciple is such a stupid idea that I don't put posts like that beyond the people who support them.

>>40435509
Using the fast travel isn't exclusive to disciples you know, we could just ask for that as part of the reward. Just be clear this isn't our MAIN present.

>>40435509
Shit is was that bad? My bad then.

>>40435475
Spirit realm portals were stated to let us bring people along. I'm not even in favor of becoming a disciple but fuck, get your facts straight.

>>40435478
So, a form of travel that still takes time, we can't read or meditate during, and ensures that we show up drained of vys? That's an awful idea.

>>40435555
Because his soul is all weird, for all we know even the slightest bit of spirit soul would subsume him.

WE CAN FAST TRAVEL WITHOUT BEING A DISCIPLE HOLY SHIT, READ THE PASTEBIN

I'm mostly for being the disciple, but i wonder if becoming a thatwould somehow inhibit us from ascending into a spirt

>>40435603
Actually, that's not in the pastebin. Soma said that in thread. Here's the quote: >>40361047

>>40435612
Nice b8 m8

>>40435612
soma said that would be impossible and suicidal.

>>40435612
Now this, I'm pretty sure this isn't sarcasm but just plain old stupid.

>>40435612
That's impossible, baitlord.

>>40435555
>Why not let SK become a disciple?
He literally can't. Hr has so little vys he shouldn't even be alive, never mind having enough for the cat to feed off of. I wouldn't even be surprised if Skull Kid is already dead and his personality is housed solely in his implants at this point. He is literally soulless.

You realize that it's not everyday you have one of the oldest beings in existence sitting in front of you, answering your questions. He even seems happy to do it. You can't let this opportunity pass you by. “What can you tell me about the collapse of Rhynia? What caused it? It's been a topic of debate practically since it occurred. The Aleamondians think it was their use of magic which ultimately led to their collapse, while others seem to think they would have collapsed far sooner had it not been for magic. Are either correct?”

Mahana purrs, you think you've managed to amuse him though you're not sure how. “My my, but you are curious. If you insist, I can tell you what caused the collapse. It was really quite simple, most saw it coming hundreds of years in advance. It stemmed from a problem inherent in their religious structure.”

He pauses, waiting until you motion for him to go on. Finally he elaborates. “The Rhynians, before they ruled a continent-spanning Empire, were an unambitious people. They worshiped a Water Spirit, a Mahana much like myself, whom they dubbed Alea. Alea, to hear it told, was a kind and motherly goddess. A bringer of life. A warrior, but neither cruel nor given to violence. She defended the weak and ensured that the land proved bountiful.”

She reminds you in a sense of Pani, or at least the traditional view of Pani. You'd bring this up, but before you're able Mahana continues. “The Rhynians were a prosperous and wealthy people, their goods were shipped around the world. They were content. They could choose who ruled over them and how to spend their lives. However, prosperity breeds jealousy. A neighboring tribe, the Frenites, came to envy the Rhynians. They worshiped a Fire Spirit by the name of Elea. She was a conquerer, a warrior, and more than that she demanded sacrifice. Born of the same Sarvocca, Alea and Elea came to utterly detest one another as they competed for their sire's affection.”

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So the post is at 8000 characters long and soma still has like 6 more questions left to answer.

>>40432894
>a cross between a boar, a man, and a bear
Nice meme, faggot.

>>40435686
>He is literally soulless.
That's actually is incorrect.

“Through the ages this rivalry persisted. The Rhynians, using an army of mercenaries, incorporated the Frenites into their expanding realm. Eventually the worship of Elea would come to be just as acceptable as Alea, as would the worship of their sire, whom the Rhynians called Deus. With every city conquered, with every people subjugated, and with every passing decade the Rhynian pantheon would expand, seemingly without end. Across the Empire thousands of spirits came to be worshiped and adored.”

“In this sense the Rhynians were very Elven, and indeed they incorporated many members of the Elven pantheon into their own. Most spirits came to align themselves with either Alea or Elea, who were constantly feuding with one another. They pitted their servants against one another, and forcefully recruited unaligned spirits. Eventually they came to a head and all out war was declared. The Empire was torn apart as religious fanatics cried out for blood, their own struggles mimicking a far more violent struggle within the realm of spirits. Eventually Deus stepped in, and with a word subdued Alea and Elea. From what I understand, they occupy themselves today by licking their wounds and sulking, occasionally seeking out new followers.”

This is taking really long and I'm not close to done, so I'm going to start posting questions as they're answered.

So it was not truly the wrath of the gods that led to the Fall of Rhynia, but rather the rivalries of spirits. Spirits that the Rhynians had thought akin to gods. It plants an uneasy seed of doubt in your thoughts. Are Pani and Surya truly gods, or merely powerful spirits? Are your people doomed to follow in Rhynia's footsteps? “So then who are the Voibardians? Did they not once control a vast empire in their won right?”

The ancient spirit's voice rings out through the vastness of the throne room. “Indeed, though they were not called Voibardians then. Rather, they were the Dwoveth. The only true rival to Rhynia, until they encountered Hiacia that is. I do not know much regarding the Dwoveth. I have traveled their lands, when they still ruled them, but they were always a reclusive people. They do not worship either gods or spirits, not in the true sense. They worship runes. The language of creation.”

“When the Samjan still wandered the deserts as little more than tribal nomads, the Dwoveth already controlled a vast empire. When Dragons passed from the world above into the world below, the Dwoveth stepped in to take their place. They asserted their dominion over the Elves. They scavenged the remnants of a great civilization, the ruins left by dragons after their subjects finally rose up and used the knowledge they'd gained killing one another to kill their overlords. They found endless piles of text, unending inscriptions, all in a strange tongue taught to the dragons by my own kind.”

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“They learned, through trial and error, what runes did what. They took to tattooing their skin with the language of the Gods, seeking to enhance themselves. However, the runes had not been recorded precisely. Over thousands of years the dragons had added their own taint to the runes. A taint which today runs strong in the Dwoveth's descendants. As the years have endlessly worn on, the knowledge of runes has waned. Yet still they tattoo themselves. None alive today would be able to give you a reason beyond tradition, even if the runes do still retain some vestigial power.”

When the Samjan were still nomads, when Dragons were still a recent memory, before recorded history... just how old is Mahana? That must have been more than ten thousand years ago. “Now what about this Heresy you mentioned? What was it, and how long ago?”

A wave of agitation washes over you, though you don't get the sense that it's directed at you. “The Heresy, from what I've gathered, led to the introduction of magic to the mortal world. It is unclear to me exactly what happened. I have sought the knowledge since a time when dragons were little more than glorified beast incapable of higher thought. The Sarvocca are disinclined to answer, truthfully I don't think they know either, and to approach a Progenitor is to consign myself to death.”

You're inclined to believe that Mahana must be at least a hundred thousand years old. At the absolute minimum. Truthfully you're inclined to say he's even older than that. He was already unbelievably ancient when he was first imprisoned beneath what would become the city of El-Amin. “What about Elaudia? It was once a vast empire, the closest ally of Hiacia. Now it is an uninhabited jungle that none dare to tread.”

The cat spirit rest its massive head once more on its forepaws, shifting its weight and making itself comfortable. “Elaudia was a polity in constant turmoil. The jungle is home to a hundred races, many of them quite similar and many of them entirely different. The Elaudians unified the lands and enslaved the vast majority of its populace, demanding sacrifice in the form of life to appease the spirits they worshiped. Nature spirits, most often. I cannot say what truly caused their collapse, or why the jungle is now uninhabited. I was imprisoned long before it vanished. I can tell you that it was not nearly as catastrophic as the collapse of Hiacia, nor as predictable as the fall of Rhynia, but it doesn't surprise me in the least.”

Twofer

>>40435848
>to approach a Progenitor is to consign myself to death

New quest: ask Ricky about the Heresy

>>40435929
SCREEEEE SCREE SCREEEE SCREE SCREEE

>>40435951
Ask the cat to teach us voidsign, use water tentacles to mimic it.

>>40435929
We should ask the stooges when we see them next, they're probably Ancients.

>>40435951
>not Ricky speaking Cleary and coldly to never ask that again
And than he would screw again after asking for more info.

>>40435929
on this though ask the cat if he knows any means to facilitate communication with ricky

>>40435984
>they end up laughing and saying it was worth it

>>40435820
Reminds me of the semi-runes we've used on occasion for meditative focus.

>>40435991
>Ricky speaking Cleary and coldly to never ask that again
Damn. Just thinking about that kinda gave me shivers

>>40436019
Same. I figure there's plenty of other things that've become traditions in Samjan culture that originate from ancient Hiacia, all with their own lost meanings.

>>40436009
kek
i can see it

>>40435848
can we ask him to teach us the language of dragons?

>>40436166
I wonder what they were originally.

>>40436197
I'm willing to bet we can ask him anything but for teaching he'll prolly finagle it into part of our reward.

>>40436197
I don't think this'd be very beneficial compared to other things we can ask of him, communicating with dragons isn't as useful compared to learning runes or other things the cat can teach us.

>>40436235
If we can get fast travel along with dragonspeak that'd be pretty cool. I'd be down for it.

>>40436235
I think communicating with dragons would be pretty damn beneficial considering they're coming back to the world, and apparently taking it by force.

>>40436248
Why's that? Personally, Is rather wait until we build another shrine to the cat before asking this, as the reward this time around should be big and dragonspeak isn't very huge a gift.

>>40436314
Post'aboveya.

>>40436314
Can't haggle with someone you can't speak to or understand.

Well, actually that's not true. It's worked for european settlers but I wouldn't count on repeat results.

>>40436376
Nature GM can and maybe Master with good rolls.

>>40436314
What ever else we get, I want our standard rate of enchanting knowledge on top of it, assuming we stay a free agent.

>>40436376
Aww yeah give dem draggies polio blankets that'll show 'em.

How about we see what he's going to offer before we suggest things he can give to us, he might be offering things we didn't think of.

So the spirits knowledge is not unlimited. You suppose you should have expected as much. How long must he have been imprisoned? So far as you're aware the Empire of Hiacia lasted for nine or so thousand years ago, but he was imprisoned well before Hiacia was an empire. Before Hiacia was even a city. “You've mentioned before that Samjan, or that the Al-Hikar had dealings directly with the gods-”

He interrupts you. “Now I didn't say that, I said they were granted a number of boons by some of the gods in order to wage a proxy war against one of the other god's followers. No mortal would survive the sight of a god in their full resplendent glory. Thus, the gods acted only indirectly. Usually one of the Children would act in the god's stead, which in and of itself is an immense honor. I would propose that it's one of the reasons your people have always revered the gods above spirits, an unusual strategy. The Elves revered the dragons, who in turn revered the spirits and the god separately. However, since the gods so rarely interacted with mortal beings, they dragons truly only worshiped spirits.”

“When the Elves overthrew the dragons, they adopted the worship of spirits and gods, again as separate entities. As time passed, they abandoned the gods in favor of only worshiping spirits. However, your people did not. You have always revered the gods, and always held them to be above spirits, even though they've never stepped in to aid your people save once, and only in order to exact revenge upon one of their own. I will say that what you've turned them in to no longer resembles them in the slightest, but I suppose it's the thought that counts.”

So Pani, Surya, Dhatu, Prthvi, and She Who Was Banished are the true gods. Well, they're intended to be the true gods. You wonder what the True Gods are like, or if they're even worthy of worship? They sound detached and largely uninterested in anything save themselves and the other gods. However, a thought occurs to you. “Actually, you mentioned that the gods granted Samjan a lesser form of immortality, but so far as I'm aware Elves also live indefinitely unless killed by violence or disease.”

The cat spirit purrs, laughing you think, even as its voice fills the room. “Elves are a strange race. Your kind, as well as humans, are offshoots of Elves. Humans are the descendants of escaped Dwoveth slaves, who were warped by their magic and tainted by their blood. Samjan are the result of meddling gods and too much sun. Elves themselves were initially artificial constructs, and thus they lived for as long as their overlords maintained them. When they overthrew their masters, they ceased to be maintained, but continued to propagate themselves.”

“Long after Samjan had already been granted the boon of limited immortality, an Elf discovered the secrets to maintaining their race just as the Dragons once maintained their servants. The knowledge was propagated, and the ritual eventually became a part of Elven traditions, and thus the myth was perpetuated that Elves were immortal. While long lived, if they manage to avoid getting killed violently and if they keep themselves maintained, Elves are by no means immortal in any sense of the word.”
Still writin'

>>40436512
Lots of Mahana repeating "dragons worshiping spirits" ie, more than once.
Think he's ever gonna try to disciple our Zahak?

Oh, and we can probably ask him if the actual legend of Zahak holds any merit.

>>40436536
>Dragons made elves
>elves figure out how to be immortal and include it in their religion
>humans are a mixture of elven sluts and fucked up not!dwarf slaves
>Samanji are blessed by the gods because of a petty fight
>spirits are usually worshiped more because they interact more with people
>dragons worship spirits

>>40436716
he just straight up said that it was a lie by saying our race was blessed by the gods.
the story is about a dragon dicking an elf and creating samanji.
>>40436729
Don't forget a lot of sun for samanji

>>40436757
a lot of sun

ITS A PARABLE FOR SURYA

>>40436757
Right guys what else do we want to ask him? No rest for the Soma.

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What I learned today

>>40436822
Gods a shit

>>40436780
Ask about what he can tell us about the gauntlet and suryas children.
Maybe info about what he think Chrysa is.

>>40436822
I haven't read in a while. Has the MC boned the one who is fated to his dick yet?

>>40436536
Soma, About how much power did Mahana/will gain from the new realm and digesting the other powerful spirit.(the dead one)
By say 1.7x his current power what?

>>40436780
Ask about the spirit in the man slut and his girl friends arms.

>>40436873
Let's ask this.
or next a quick answer

>>40436873
this

>>40436873
Man anon I've asked at least a tenth of all the questions on Soma's ask that he's responded with variations of "can't tell ya that" and even I can tell that he can't tell ya that.

>>40436902
the fuck you mean. We're asking Mahana not soma. As in to add to his questions.
Mahana should be able to gauge how much of a power increase it will be.

>>40436850
Nope

New god war is raging tho >>40436848

A lot of dudes died recently

>>40436873
should be a easy fast question.

>>40436945
Didn't mean to quote that other guy

>>40436848
>Maybe info about what he think Chrysa is
Lol....
No one cares about your waifu, dude. Go back to the irc and cry with your fellow Chrysfags

>>40436984
>bait

>>40436991
>IRCposters

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>>40437010
>>40436991
>bringing the shitposters outside of Somas den of shitposters

>>40437010
>Your mum

>>40437062
>Sonyfags and Chrysfags are one and the same
Not even surprised tbh

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>>40436945
>Siwang YenShen died

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>>40437088

You're starting to run out of salient questions, but there are still a few things you want to ask. “How do spirits use magic, if you don't truly have vys? You've mentioned directly controlling divine essence before, is it essentially that?”

Mahana's whiskers twitch, you're not sure how to interpret that. “Spirits perform magic much in the same way as Vatis. We rarely, if ever, have any reason to cast within the mortal realm. If we do, our essence will produce what you call vys and we'll use that to affect the world. Unless we seek to make permanent change, in which case we rip off a piece of ourselves and speak the language of the gods to make it so. In the realms of spirits we cast using our essence directly to manipulate the world as we wish.”

Something he brought up earlier springs to mind, and you decide you may as well ask since he seems so willing to entertain you. How long have you been talking, now? It must have been nearly an hour. “What is the original source of corruption? I know there is an ore in the Mines of Longia which produces corruption, and the Rhynians seemed to experiment with it extensively. So it couldn't have been caused by the Entity.”

There's a long silence. “Hmmmm.” The cat intones. “That's a good question. I couldn't properly say. It has always existed in some form. We have sought to destroy it wherever it spreads. The dragons coveted substances which created corruption, of which there are several, as their location could be used as a bargaining chip in negotiations with spirits. Corruption is also one of the few substances in the world which can kill a spirit, or at least poison it. If I was forced to make a guess, I would say that it was caused by the Heresy.”

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>>40437113
Bane the Beserker died
At least he went out like a fucking G

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>>40436984
As cancerous as you think it would be they actually spend a shitload of time discussing banished. It can get kind of boring since i'm not suepr interested in the irrelevent lore or exactly how much fast travel might cost.

You're starting to run out of questions to ask, though you desperately search your thoughts for more. You won't get an opportunity like this again. “What is the mind, and how is it that enchanting works? Are the two related? I know the Animate spell creates a temporary replica.”

The cat's voice thunders forth. “It's good that you've made that association, for the mind is in fact an enchantment placed upon your ancestors. It is a work of Draconic magic, at least in those races descended from Elves. The minds of dragons were created by the Children of the Gods themselves, to act as their representatives and to amuse them. The Dwoveth were invented as the servants of a powerful spirit. I could not say why Elaudia was once filled with too many sentient races to count. Nor could I tell you the mechanics of how to create a mind, though it's clear the Rhynians figured it out. I can tell you that it involves altering the very concept of a creature on its most basic level. The concept of the creature itself, not any facet of the creature.”

“As for enchanting, well. Reality as we know it was created by the gods. They separated off an area from whatever it is that lies beyond the edge of this reality and they wove within an underlying structure. A foundation. On this foundation they built all that we know, by creating a word to represent it. Enchanting relies on using these words first voiced by the gods, the language of creation, and using these words to enforce changes on the underlying foundations of reality.”

>>40437198
ask>>40436848

So basically all the information about how writing enchantment and the back talk about how it was the reason rythians fell was pulling shit out of peoples asses and we totally could have gotten a book written about enchantment from the enchantment robot?

>>40437577
Banished sex cards when?

>>40437198
ask him about the mandate of the gods about not teaching mortals to enchant.

>>40437198
what is the source of this image?

it must be studied and recorded for the archives.

for reference purposes of course

>>40437619
The first Witcher game.

>>40437577
Who knows

Honestly I have so much conflicting info in my head I'm incline to err on the side of caution

>>40437198
Ask him what would be the best way to go about killing a spirit, is the silver shit for real?

So, who's the nigger that fucked up the archiving?

>>40437739
Some fuckhead on stroll streak

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>>40437642

>>40437198
Would disciple change our relationship with the void guys we're on good terms with? eg Ricky, the old guys and the Collector

>>40437643
It's still forbidden from mortal knowledge Anons. It just wasn't the reason why the Rhynians were smote.

>>35886797
Forbidden Knowledge: I may also weave for you an enchantment into an item of your choosing, though the knowledge of an art so powerful is forbidden to mortals.

You sit in comfortable silence for a time, the cat's tail swishing lazily from side to side. You're far too busy just absorbing all of this information to truly notice. Enchanting wasn't really anything you didn't already know, but it's good to have confirmation. Eventually you turn your mind to smaller, more immediate matters. You can piece together your world view later. “So how much more powerful do you think you'll be, once you establish a core group of worshipers and absorb the corpse of the dead spirit?”

Mahana perks up, his tail falling still. “It is hard to say.” His voice rings out. “Without the lost piece of my essence locked away beneath the city of El-Amin, I will not gain as much from it as I would like, were I to simply consume the spirit. I may incorporate his being into my domain, wave it into the realm itself. Thus fortifying my realm against invasions. I may consume him in the end as well. It is an ongoing internal debate. If I do consume him, I estimate that I will be at least... half again as powerful as I am now.”

Another thought occurs to you. “Say, I've been told ever since I first started interacting with spirits that enchanting is an art banned for practice by mortals by the gods themselves. Is that true, or is it just a falsehood I've been told?”

The cat's whiskers twitch once more. “It's not wholly untrue, but nor is it the whole truth. We do not like enchanters. They have the potential to rival us in power. The gods do not truly care about enchanters but there is president for them banning something similar to the practice of enchanting. That is to say, when the god who was cast out of reality taught your kind how to manipulate divine essence directly. This divine essence was in turn used for enchanting, but it was not the whole of enchanting. The other gods stepped in and assured her demise, and since then many spirits have been claiming that enchanting is a practice forbidden by the gods.”

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The cat swishes it's tail once. “Really, it's just a way to make it sound more valuable than it is. Spirits have always used knowledge of the Gods' tongue as a bargaining chip. It has really only become a lost art because of the chaos which has wracked the world over the last millennia. We are not above petty manipulation. Some spirits truly do detest enchanters, and some spirits really will seek their demise, but that is mostly because there was a time when powerful enchanters rivaled spirits in power and they don't wish to see that time come again.”

Huh, so that shrine spirit you met in the Mines of Longia was just full of shit. As was Mahana at first, come to think of it. He presented it as if his mark would protect you from the enforcers of the gods' will. Well, whatever. It was a while ago you suppose. “While we're on the topic of enchanting, could you give me an example of the sorts of artifacts you'd be able to create.”

Mahana purrs, a deep thrumming sound in his chest. “Of course, of course. I would prefer to keep my best work for a disciple-” Yeah, you bet he would. “-but since you've been such a tremendous help I suppose to give you anything but my best work would be a travesty. My original domains were Fire and Earth, though I've since gained Water as well. I'm quite skilled with Metal and Nature, but truly my expertise lie in Fire, Earth, and Water. I could craft a lens which allows you to see through any illusion. I could craft a sword enhanced with the corroding power of Earth to eat through any armor it touches. I could create a ring which heals your wounds passively, without the need to strain yourself. These are just examples of course, I'm quite open to request.”
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You can't really think of much else to ask. You've learned more over the past hour or so than you ever thought you would or could know. If you're going to come to a decision, now would be the time to do so.

>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.
>He who would sacrifice liberty for security shall have neither. You'll not give up your free will just for the power this cat offers.
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.
>Write-in

>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

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>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

Wait so what is the void then? Is it inside of this reality?
Or is it outside of the reality, beyond that web the gods created?
I mean, when we fucked a hole in the reality and void creatures came out, does that mean that void is outside? And they are creatures completely unrelated to gods? And that spirits are not void creatures adjusted to work in mortal world?

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

duh

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437911
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

aim low though, not too high. keep it more than reasonable, leaning in his favor more to facilitate better bargains later down the line

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

Excellent

>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.
can we haggle for more benefits?

>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>See if he can't teach you the language of dragons.what with them back on the rise
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

>>40437940
>He who would sacrifice liberty for security shall have neither. You'll not give up your free will just for the power this cat offers.

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437987
The void lies within "reality". The Mortal Realm is a pocket within the greater domain the gods sketched out.

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.
seriously? You're willing to become some spirits bitch?

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>He who would sacrifice liberty for security shall have neither. You'll not give up your free will just for the power this cat offers.

Always and forever.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40438067
I see. But still, it does not explain what void entities are exactly, could we ask mahana on his take on that? I sort of joined the thread late and did not get a chance to point that out.

>>40438067
ey man i'll buy you the witcher 3 if you tell me where the gods come from

>>40437940
>He who would sacrifice liberty for security shall have neither. You'll not give up your free will just for the power this cat offers.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.
Hey so just keep to agreement we have and I'll keep fucking shit up in your name. Oh yea a bitchin ass spear an sheild would be cool.

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

I am happy with this.

>>40437940
>>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40437940
Get info yo take the middle ground

>>40437940
Haggle does mean not becoming a disciple, right?

>>40437940
>Hug the cat

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.
>Write-in
Ask what would happen if you tried to become a Progenitor's Disciple

>>40438101
is a shit game m8 doesn't even launch
source: ruski torrent

>>40438159
Progenitors a shit, Ricky's an Elder.

>>40438159
>>40438159
We are NOT being Ricky's disciple.

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>>40438159
>When I turn the inner eye to see its path, where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only Jew will remain.

>>40438116
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>>40438029
>Benjie Franklin is mai husbando

>>40438028
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>>40437978
>Disciple me brah.

>>40438157
>Pet tha kitty :3
That was fucking gay.

OKAY, looks like there's overwhelming support for haggling. Gimme a second here.

>>40438181
huh I thought he was a Progenitor

Rolled 7, 3, 4 = 14 (3d10)

>>40438211
get dem dice ready

>>40437940
>Perhaps you don't need to either wholly refuse nor wholly accept? See if you can negotiate for certain privileges, like traveling through the cat's domain, gaining further knowledge of runes, and having him craft artifacts for you; in exchange for certain services, like building shrines and launching invasions when it's convenient to do so.

>>40438211
>stay up just so I can vote against becoming a disciple
>it's not even close to happening

Well I'm glad you guys aren't dumb but I really gotta get some sleep.

>>40437940
>Ask the cat to make you his disciple, take the plunge. The benefits outweigh the cost.

>>40438274
I just hope the monsters don't get you before you fall asleep.

>>40438211
JEW POWER

>>40438274
It could still happen bro, we haven't haggled yet.

if we became is disciple would it still be as easy to get into other spirits domains? just asking becase it might be easy to invade again if we are not blatantly marked by a spirt

>>40438334
and also pet cat

>>40438274
I voted against the discipling, but people like you are cancer.

"don't do anything dumb while I'm gone" kind of retards. Maybe if you turds actually had something meaningful to say, or were not inherently retarded snide cunts.

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>>40438274
yes go to sleep anon we'll handle the specifics of the negotiation from here

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>we'll never get to hug the cat
I bet its lonely being a hundred thousand year old spirit

>>40438373
We are not asking Catiwaifu to fuck us up the butt. For the last timeJuden that's reserved for Chrys.

>>40438370
Why are you so mad bro did you lose an internet argument or something?

>>40438218
Progenitor is a term for things of the void/not of the mortal realm. They are usually more powerful than Spirits because they're usually older.

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>>40438398
Would Soma write something that gay? A new friendship formed between a semi-insane vatis and a 100,000 year old cat spirit just because of a random out of character hug? No, you faggot.

>>40438433
Nah man I just felt the need to vent. Tiny irritations leading to calling someone names kind of deal.

So what do y'all want exactly? This will determine the DC of passing the haggle roll. Each item adds +5 to the DC, and the Base DC is 15. You'll have a +8 bonus from traits and circumstances.

>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>A leadership position amongst his followers, in exchange for rooting out infiltrators.
>His protection from other spirits whom you might encounter in your travels, in exchange for recruiting new followers for the cat.
>The ability to command his servants, whoever they might end up being, in exchange for defending his realm in the event of an invasion.

The max roll is 38, so you can pick four if you're feeling lucky. Picking four items would mean you have to beat a DC 35. Picking three would mean a DC 30. Picking two would mean a DC 25. Picking only one item would be a DC 20.

Of course, you've already got a deal worked out with him where you get knowledge of runes for every shrine you erect, and he'll hold to that deal regardless.

You won't be able to get a straight power up, mainly due to the fact that the straight boost to vys worked by him implanting a shard of himself in your soul.

Rolled 8, 1, 4 = 13 (3d10)

>>40438511

>>40438511
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>His protection from other spirits whom you might encounter in your travels, in exchange for recruiting new followers for the cat.

Should be enough.

>>40438511
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
Best by far, include our party members in the deal.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>A leadership position amongst his followers, in exchange for rooting out infiltrators.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>His protection from other spirits whom you might encounter in your travels, in exchange for recruiting new followers for the cat.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
I'm feeling lucky.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

Rolled 4, 9, 2 + 8 = 23 (3d10 + 8)

let me just stretch my dice

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>The ability to command his servants, whoever they might end up being, in exchange for defending his realm in the event of an invasion.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>A leadership position amongst his followers, in exchange for rooting out infiltrators.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
everything else meh

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>A leadership position amongst his followers, in exchange for rooting out infiltrators.

>>40438511
>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
Nothing else.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
>His protection from other spirits whom you might encounter in your travels, in exchange for recruiting new followers for the cat.

>>40438511
>>The ability to travel through his realm at will, in exchange for setting up shrines across the world.
>>Artifacts in exchange for launching invasions of other spirits fiefs/realms.
duh