>>40400160
Without the chaosgods the warp would disintegrate and humanity would be fucked causing a new dark age.

>>40400370
So the dark age of realism? Guess that's how we were made.

>>40400160
Human psykers and Eldar would become immortal, so there's that.
>>40400370
Warp existed long before the chaos gods.

FTL communications are gone, necrons win? Humanity is very fucked and falls apart without the communications. Tyraninds are irrelevant now and die off slowly. Eldar get murdered probably though may start rebounding as they are not getting their souls eaten anymore. Orks do as Orks do and live on. Tau... expand as they have been for a while.

>>40400418
Yep. Tau and Necron surgence, Eldar as well because webway

>>40400160
Okay, so let me get this clear:

The Warp is still dangerous and turbulent, but everything closely connected to it as been wiped out. Somehow.

So Warp travel would be theoretically safer, assuming the Astronomican is still up, but there are still more mundane threats from minor xenos species and Necrons.

And if the Astronomican is snuffed out, humanity is fucked, because now the Imperium is fractured.

>>40400418
>Eldar get murdered probably though may start rebounding as they are not getting their souls eaten anymore
All Eldar except Dark Eldar die, since they're all psykers. Dark Eldar now win forever since there's no force that can actually oppose them.

Well, excluding the whole Necron thing. Necrons wake up and just about stomp everything again, I suppose. Although one could argue if we truly wished to get rid of the gods part, they'd remove the god-given bodies of the Necrons and the C'tan too

>>40400451
Actually the warp would still be their, you don't need a god for Psykers to be around. If anything, they become even more powerful.

>>40400439
>>40400451
Op said the warp entities all die, not psychics or pyskers. New in fact gods and spirits begin forming almost immediately

>>40400475
> It's effects on the Materium were minimal, though all pskyers felt it and some of them died from shock (most pronouncedly on the tyranids)

>>40400475
It's just a really confusing situation, because apparently there was just a pulse that turned the Warp on its head. There should be huge, destabilizing effects if it can take out all these gods.

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>>40400415
>before the chaos gods
>implying time has any meaning in the warp

>>40400160
what about the chaos boys all chilling in the eye of Chayyosh?

What about all the ships in mid-transit inside the warp?

What about the psychic abilities of everyone? Would being a librarian now be worthless? Would being an eldar now be like just a regular git?

Would all ork tech suddenly explode and never again work?

Would Tau lose all their special Alpha-lvl polar-bear psycher guiders?

SO MANY QUESTIONS, OP!

>>40400481
Some died from the shock. Furthermore, with daemons gone for a littl e bit, the WAP becomes becalmed and safer for use and travel. The astronomicon may not even be necessary with chaos gone. Reincarnation can begin again, positive warp spirits can reform - essentially this is a reset button for a dying universe. Everyone comes out better

>>40400439
Also mentioned that the emps is ded now, meaning the astronomican with it. But then again, we had warp-travel even before the empy, and that was possible thanks to a calmed warp

>>40400520
Then yeah. Eldar come back in utter and full force. Reincarnating everyone from the Fall.

Massive Eldar VS Necron battles while humanity is still a shit in the corner.

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>>40400539
>Massive Eldar VS Necron battles
Don't the Necrons vastly outnumber AND outtech Eldar in the current 40k timeline? Seems like a very short battle. I guess the Necrons reestablish their dominance over the galaxy.

>>40400539
It'll still take time for the eldar to recover and for the necrons to finish waking up. The Imperium hides any changes as long as possible and carries on as usual but I imagine there would eventually be massive political upheaval and fragmentation.

Due to the warp being called, Orks are a greater threat than ever because more of their ships actually survive transit

>>40400564
Yeah and no more C'tan.

>>40400567
> The Imperium hides any changes as long as possible and carries on as usual
Without an astronomicon?

The imperium is fucked, plain and simple. Even without demons, you can still accidentally time travel in the warp without a frame of reference, to say nothing about being mundanely off of course.

>>40400565
>Don't the Necrons vastly outnumber AND outtech Eldar in the current 40k timeline?
Remember that all of the Eldar suddenly resurrect and have all the knowledge of the Pre-fall.

Yeah. That's evening up REAL quick.

>>40400567
>It'll still take time for the eldar to recover and for the necrons to finish waking up.
Eldar should happen within like 100 years. Their assaults on Necrons should force them to awake up faster too.

>The Imperium hides any changes as long as possible and carries on as usual but I imagine there would eventually be massive political upheaval and fragmentation.
No astronomicon means they're entirely and essentially permanently fucked until Emperor MK2 comes along.

>>40400569
That's fine. C'tan shards aren't necessary for the Necrons to fuck everyone in the ass now.

>>40400604
Indeed but the nightbringer is the god of death, so was a Nurgle.
So now nobody can die anymore! I assume that's how they work anyway.
So if I'm correct then that means you can blow a hole in my chest all day, I'll just work for 2 weeks for a new chest.

>>40400620
The Necron guns literally atomize you. Sure, you're alive... as a fine mist of atoms. Why do you keep giving MORE advantages to the skelebots?

>>40400589
Without warp gods or daemons the warp will become becalmed. They don't NEED the astronomocon. This is essentially the Emperors goal finally accomplished
It might have even been his death that set it off.

>>40400656
>Without warp gods or daemons the warp will become becalmed.
The warp was violent and hard to navigate without them.
It will continue to be violent after they depart.

You have fucked humanity sideways with the loss of the astronomicon.

>>40400641
>I'm alive as a mist of atoms.
So wait how the fuck would that work?

>>40400656
PS: the imperials still have navigators to travel with. The astronomicon just helps them see through the muky, constantly churned warp. With chaos gone, its unnecessary. Now, political issues would happen as soon as people figured that out

>>40400672
Who knows? You can't die, but you are NOTHING. So I guess you float there in a half-conscious state, unable to perceive anything or be perceived until the heat death of the universe.

>>40400667
No, because humans did it during the dark age of technology. It was Chaos that made the astronomicon a necessity, specifically the birth of slaanesh

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>>40400685
Indeed, for all we know I can still fight you as nothing more than a cloud of atoms.
Like a grimdark version of pic related.

>>40400680
>The astronomicon just helps them see through the muky, constantly churned warp.
Allow me to correct you; it is the ONLY way they can see through it.
>With chaos gone, its unnecessary.
It was violent long before any demons appeared, since the time of the Old Ones.

>>40400693
It was violent since the War In Heaven. Try again.

>No, because humans did it during the dark age of technology.
Comparing ANYONE but the necrons to Dark Age humans is completely ridiculous. They had absolutely mastered the universe.

>>40400475
Correct

>>40400685
You can die. Souls in the warp reincarnate, without churn or demons to destroy them

>>40400667
well, lets look at both sides of the dice before that. While we no longer have the astronomican, we also:

*No longer an apocalyptic hive fleet set to devour all life
*Ork's reduced to WHFB equivalent, since their tech no longer works on 'its flash'
*Most, if not all Chaos factions dead, or in a massive spiritual crisis.


That is a lot of major threats to the imperium gone in a single blink. While Imperium as a full would fall, i think individual sectors would actually be massively better off.

>>40400740
This is true. Now, all you have to worry about is the Necrons, who no longer have their greatest obstacle in existence any more, and the Eldar, who will rapidly return to the height of their power with Slaanesh gone.


Individual sectors would be better off until they were flayed with green lightning.

>>40400718
Then how the flying fuck did the DAOT happen with humanity spreading across the galaxy if humans always needed the light? It was slaanesh. The war in heaven was the old ones and the Ctans slap fight, it didn't churn the warp anything compared to aeons of eldar decadence and the birth of slaanesh

>>40400756
Wouldn't they priortize Elderp over Humies?
If they became so stronk then I think they would go "Fuck humans for now, destroy the eldar."

Actually, it would be awesome to see what the now-godless former chaos factions will do. What would the Logicans do now that they no longer are Tzench controlled puppets? What would people on former daemon worlds do, suddenly no longer enslaved by horrors and allowed to exist only for ammusement

>>40400740
Ork tech still functions. The waagh field is not dependent on gork and mork

>>40400766
>Then how the flying fuck did the DAOT happen with humanity spreading across the galaxy if humans always needed the light?
Simple.
Their technology is much, much more advanced than the current Imperium's tech, and likely had much better navigational technology.

>it didn't churn the warp anything compared to aeons of eldar decadence and the birth of slaanesh
Are you fucking kidding me. The War In Heaven was so much worse than Slaanesh's birth that it's like comparing a slapfight to nuclear warfare.

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>>40400777
>Get back to work, just because the deamons are missing doesn't mean you have breaks.

>>40400771
They would. And once they're finished destroying the Eldar (and they would. They beat the Old Ones, they'll beat their creations a lot quicker) they'll finish extinguishing all civilized life. Not a matter of 'if' but 'when'.

>>40400756
Well, that is a thing to decide weather its the New-crons or the Old-crons that will be rising.

But even without it, the imperium now has massive reserve of military assets it no longer has to spend on pointless wars against never-ending tide of green, chitin, or spikes, and it can give the necrons at least a small black eye while the eldar are still getting their shit together.

Oh, and fuck up the tau. Because fuck tau

>>40400740
>no astronomican (no reliable FTL travel)
>no soul binding (no FTL communication)
You do realize those two things are what keeps the Imperium (relatively) on top of things, right?

Take them away and you're back to Age of Strife techno-barbarian colonies all on their lonesome. And we already know how that ends.

>>40400817
>But even without it, the imperium now has massive reserve of military assets it no longer has to spend on pointless wars
... that it can't mobilize due to the lack of an Astronomicon.

>Oh, and fuck up the tau. Because fuck tau

I actually think Tau would come out of this one pretty okay, up until they get run over by the 'crons. The only reason they existed was because everyone else was so busy, and suddenly the OP of this thread has cleared everything up in the way the Necrons would have done anyway. How convenient!

>>40400813
That was with their C'tan, which are now all dead.
Besides they didn't win, they went to sleep waiting for the enemy to become weak. The whole purpose of the C'tan retreating was because they were expending more energy than consuming, now their gone. Plus the Orks would catch wind rather fast about "DA BIGGEST FIGHT EVA IS STARTIN
AGAINZ?! WAAAAGH!"

Also a problem... the only two "JUST AS PLANNED" folk left on the grand galactic poker table would now be that eldar prick, The deceiver, and that necron prick

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>>40400503
Time still has significance in the warp it just is not ''passing'' as it is in the materium.

My understanding is that the passing of time like everything in the warp is very chaotic so not the same everywhere. There are some ''places'' in the warp where time passes fast some where it is slow some places even go backward like It is noted in the chaos space marine codex. Wich would explain why if you transition from the warp to reality in certain ''locations'' in the warp (there are not really fixed locations also from my understanding again but that's another thing) you end up either in the past or the future but usually not by too much.

The fluff mostly mentions trips to the future some as far as a thousand years and the only trip to the past I know of was this one ork warlord that came back to before starting his WAAAGH!

Anyway TLDR yes there is time in the warp but just fucked up like the rest and the cause of the warp is the big ass war between the necrons old ones and eldar. Before that there was the Immaterium.

>>40400620
I dont think that warhammer is one of the universes that need god of death for dying to work. Eldar would start to resurrect and others souls just get dissolved in warp

>>40400798
>because technology

If it was that simple the Eldar wouldn't need the webway, and the emperor wouldn't have tried to build a gate. Humanity spread just fine with only navigators. And even if what you say about the war in heaven is true, which I deny, then without daemons the warp still becomes much calmer, making the astronomicon irrelevant. The astronomicon is a reference point in a turbulent warp and helps the navigators third eye, you CAN nav without it its just hard as fuck. But with a becalmed warp, it suddenly isn't anymore.

The Imperium is fine until lack of a unifying creed splinters it, and even then they can probably hold together politically for the most part. Many outside threats still remain even if chaos is gone. Moreover, new warp gods will begin forming almost immediately, likely something born from the imperoums fanatic veneration of the emperor will manifest in a few centuries

>>40400777
I know a couple Word Bearers who would have a fit.

>>40400777
Imagine a life long worshiper of Khorne who only ever remembers bloomshed and death and the times between battles, a mind shaped by daemonic influences, in which he fights and scrapes with his fellow khornites in transit, who's only ever been driven by bloodlust and hatred for weaklings and a desire to add more skulls to the skull throne.

Then suddenly after the fall drives like greed, sloth, an appretiation of beauty and fear come back to him in the absence of that influence and rage and hatred peter out.

>>40400891
So it would be like deflating a "slowly becoming depressed" balloon that someone put heretical symbols and a khorne helmet on?

>>40400850
>That was with their C'tan, which are now all dead.
Shattered*
C'tan are not in any way affiliated with the Warp, and thus made it out okay in their Shards.

>Besides they didn't win, they went to sleep waiting for the enemy to become weak.
That was because of the Enslavers, who are warp beings you should note.

>>40400863
>If it was that simple the Eldar wouldn't need the webway,
Which they used to avoid the attention of Demons. Also, the Eldar were less technologically advanced than DAoT Mankind.

>And even if what you say about the war in heaven is true, which I deny
You should consider reading the Necron and Eldar codexes. You'll feel like an idiot later.

>The astronomicon is a reference point in a turbulent warp and helps the navigators third eye, you CAN nav without it its just hard as fuck.
The lore is pretty clear on this: Without an astronomicon, navigation is nigh impossible and you've got the same odds as just picking a direction randomly as you do relying on a Navigator.

>But with a becalmed warp, it suddenly isn't anymore.
You keep saying these words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

>Many outside threats still remain even if chaos is gone. Moreover, new warp gods will begin forming almost immediately, likely something born from the imperoums fanatic veneration of the emperor will manifest in a few centuries
Even if the Warp was somehow calmed for the first time in the entirety of it's existence (which would be fucking astonishing for everyone) It would quickly become violent again, and now Mankind has no Astronomicon. Even in your best term scenario that relies on a misunderstanding of how the warp works, you've pushed off the Imperium being fucked in the ass by skeletons held together by their hatred for life by maybe a hundred years. Tops.

>>40400891
For some reason, all the former Chaos Spesshmehreens becoming frighteningly sane is a lot more scary thought than any newcron fanwank so far...

These are marines from the time when the rally call was "For the imperium of Man!", not "For the Emperor!", so they would all be quite unpussed with the emperors passing

>>40400915
I thought even before the demonic hijack, the Traitor Space Marines are still traitors to the imperium tho, even then millenia of going "Fuck the imperium" won't be erased just because their patrons are dead.

>>40400906
>Also, the Eldar were less technologically advanced than DAoT Mankind.
[Citation needed]

>>40400503
It does.

>>40400948
Well... as told, the Imperium would no longer exist in any way, since astropath communications would be shot to bits...

All we would have were former imperial worlds, lost and confused, and probably all to willing to have any kind of protection from the horrors without.

So how do we make this into a setting?

>>40400906
After the war in heaven the eldar were somehow able to go off and peacefully fuck themselves to death for millennia. Humanity expanded during the DAOT during this time. Without an astronomicon. Speaking of the DAOT, the Mechanics knows where a stc is. Its on a daemon world. When chaos vanishes, what's the first fucking thing they do? Sprint for that world and reclaim a shitload of DAOT tech.

No demons no warp turbulence, period. The chaos of the warp is caused by 40k + years of horrible shit. Without it, there is no need for an astronomicon. The imperium will splinter, but the core of it will remain. Other human offshoot factions will be born. Humanity is so numerous it loves on in some form or another. With slaanesh gone the eldar can focus on rebuilding their numbers. Nothing in the OP said the necrons all immediately and simultaneously wake up.

Also, newcrons don't even want to exterminate all life. Some would simply gladly subjugate humans.

>>40400952
The eldar were getting their shit pounded in the great crusade by techno-barbarians, and the Dark Age technology is fucking miraculous even by Eldar standards.

>>40401005
>The eldar were getting their shit pounded in the great crusade by techno-barbarians
>and the Dark Age technology is fucking miraculous even by Eldar standards.
[Citation needed]

>>40400991
Holy shit, that's true. The Omnicopea in that Daemon world that contains most of the Psyker STC's.... Maybe this was the emperor's plan all along for the Humanity Psychic Master Race.

>>40400991
Which is exactly what the Eldar would do with the Croneworld technology.

Not to mention foreseeing this and deploying as many titans as possible to that world too.

>>40400991
>the mechanicus knows where an STC is.
I'd like to see a citation on that one, but we'll put that aside for now.


The explorers get lost, because of no Astronomicon, or are fucked in the ass by newly formed Chaos Unaligned demons. They won't get it, and the Necrons would fuck them, with or without an STC.

>after the war in heaven
Both the Eldar and the Necrons needed to retreat and hide for a while due to the Enslavers. The eldar were barely a species at this point, mind.

>nothing says the Necrons immediately wake up
They don't need to. Their enemies are shattered and useless, except for the Eldar, who I'm fairly sure given that they kicked their creator's ass, they could take.

There's also the fact that necrons aren't a unified faction to consider. There is no.mention of the Kong's return. Therefore the only thing we can predict them doing is carrying on as they already are, waking up as fast as they can and fighting the newly resurgent eldar.

>>40400991
Basically this git gets it!

>>40400989

As a setting? Well, best way to do is to imagine yourself as a newly-sane chaos spessh marine. Suddenly you find no gods, no imperium, and no reason to do horrors just for the off-chance of attracting the attention of your chosen suggar-god-daddy.

You have a wealth of worlds, all in different stages of development, but all still leaderless and ripe to conquer.

Imagine a setting where you compete with other superhumans to carve out as glorious empire as you can, and rule it as you'd like.

Suddenly, every sector becomes like Segmentum Ultramar

>>40401035
Not him and also I know that wiki links are mostly looked down upon, but I don't have the codex Skiitari at hand

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Omnicopaeia

>>40401010
It's in the lexicanum if you want to look. The great crusade kicked the fuck out of the Eldar during their day of glory. The great crusade is also notably less technologically advanced than DAoT mankind.

As for DAoT tech being better than the Eldar... Graviton weapons. Abominable intelligences. The Men Of Iron.

>>40401035
>I'd like to see a citation on that one, but we'll put that aside for now.

Admech codex.

>>40401035
>The explorers get lost, because of no Astronomicon
Unnecessary as I've explained. Furthermore with the entirety of the admech launching, law of averages says at least one ship would be successful, even if your supposition that they can't warp was right. Which it is not. They can even still make short, controlled jumps like the Tau do.

>>40401038
Doesn't really matter, but they would unite to fight the Eldar.

>>40401056
Huh. Interesting. Also, I doubt the Mechanicus would be eager to share their scientific revolution, especially with no FTL communications.

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>>40401011
>Chaos space marines and primarchs no longer corrupted
>stc rediscovered
>psychic awakening
>safe for reincarnation

>>40401067
>unnecessary as I've explained
You've made baseless claims that just don't work based on the setting.
>furthermore with the entire admech launching
That's a wild proposition, based on the lack of good FTL comms with no Astropaths, not to mention the distance required to travel and newly forming Demons in the warp.

Isn't the Warp basically a reflection of the emotional state of the material universe? Why would getting rid of the gods somehow calm the Warp? There is still going to be so much hate and anger and despair and shit to muddy it up.

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>>40401061
The Talismans of Vaul seem to be more than sufficient. Furthermore,
> The great crusade kicked the fuck out of the Eldar during their day of glory.
The Great Crusade happened AFTER the Eldar were consumed by Slaanesh, the Eye of Terror's creation ended the Age of Strife.

>>40401103
>ended the age of strife
Huh. Fair enough, that's bad of me.

>talismans of vaul
Do those really compare to the Men of Iron? Well, that's a debate for another time.

>>40401010
Elves are too busy sucking dick to do much else.

>>40401099
Well, that was warp BEFORE the old ones specifically weaponised it so that only most negative aspects become powerfully infecting and corruptive.

If warp was *reset*, then the positive emotions would be more or less in balance inside the warp. there would be daemons of hate and rage, but also of hope, affection, satisfaction.

There would no longer be a malign sentience to the warp, only reflections of emotions.

Literally, warp would lose its mind, and hopefully never would regain it again

>>40401099
It's really a question of how fast new demons would form. It would happen, it's a matter of when, and how bad these new ones fuck the next people making blind warp jumps.

Ironically, the orks have a field day for a while, since humans can't safely jump and the Eldar are busy fucking like mad, while the free skins get essentially safe transport for a bit. Not like they were steering anyway.

>>40401088
How does one even go from being a daemon prince back into a primarch?

>>40401129
That's true, but in 40k there are more negative emotions than positive ones, mind.

>>40401150
They die. So they don't.

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>>40401123
>Do those really compare to the Men of Iron?
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blackstone_Fortress
Essentially the Talismans of Vaul are theorized to be the former battleships of the Eldar in the Pre-fall, capable of destroying planets, sending stars into supernova and hosting entire fleets. And that's after they were re-fitted from Pre-Fall technology, imagine what they could have been doing before that.

The mighty craftworlds we see are barely trading ships after all, and even then they're the most powerful in space excluding the Necron's doomballs and the re-fitted Blackstone Fortress.

>>40401157
Yes, but those negative emotions would no longer have a purpose, or a mind to drive them. They would literally just be pure reflections, not a malign, ever-expanding intellect.

Anger and hate would dominate, of course. But it would not have a mind or a will of its own. It would just be that, a reflection of the immaterium.

Kind of like how no longer your reflection in the mirror is not Bloody Mary, but just your own, saggy-self

I can't be the only one who finds humor in the fact that Chaos was the thing saving everyone from the spoopy skellingtons.

>>40401195
Except that's not the case not since the new cron fluff

I hope this thread stays alive 4 more hours so I can get home and go into detail about how I think the imperium will Balkanize and split between remnant states and the admech taking over the Sol system

>>40401218
They still want to get their empire back, Anon. You're standing on it.

>>40401283
Factions I expect: The mechanican empire, the ultramarran empire, the ecclesiarchal states, various system republics and tyrannies

>>40401317
Add the odd sanified-Chaos state to it as well. Lufgt Huron was pretty chill dude even when immersed in the insanity of the warp, and i think his little dominion still stands and prospers

>>40401317
Actually, what the hell would the inquisition start doing now? I mean, ordo Xenos would still stay and serve, but Mallus and Hereticus would pretty much be redundant. Maybe Chronos or some little ones would start beefing up?

Or maybe everyone would just roll into the Ordo Xenos and become a massive faction of former daemonhunters

>>40401317
The new flowering (eldar), the great waaagh (lead by thraka who finally takes Armageddon and sets his sites on uniting the Orks), the tau empire, the new warp (positive and negative newborn spirits of chaos seeking to become gods)

>>40401354
Likely disintegrate or fuse with the ecclesiarchal states

>>40401176
>after their refit
So how about they only blow up planets after their refit, and they transform into giant eight pointed stars?

They don't look like anything else the Eldar built. They were likely built by the old ones.

If and when the Eldar had them they'd have used them for flower hydroponics or dildo production.

>>40400503
I wish 4e never happened.

>>40400160
So... Someone set off the little doctor (the M.D. Device) from Enders game in the warp and the chain reaction reset the entire thing to neutral?

>>40401388
>So how about they only blow up planets after their refit, and they transform into giant eight pointed stars?
And replacing then with generally inferior weaponry? Sorry, I don't see your point or how you could reach that conclusion.

>They don't look like anything else the Eldar built.
That's because it's refitted. It looks Imperial because they've refitted and redesigned it.
>They were likely built by the old ones.
Possible, although considering the timeline that's very, very unlikely, considering the Eldar Empire was up for millions of years and that's dated only to be 300k years old at maximum.

>>40401430
That isn't how the MD device works at all but yes

Things to consider: Ynnead is not in the warp. Wothnslaanesh gone, the eldar can release him and instantly have a new minor god

The aims of the various necron dynasties

The silent king

Why becomes of surviving csm and heretics

How does this affect warp mutants?

The farsight ebclave,- with the ethereals essentially proven right, does he rejoin?

>>40400418
I was under the impression that Tau FTL drives still used the warp (barely), so they'd lose the ability to travel between their worlds within a reasonable amount of time.

Their empire is small enough that they probably wouldn't collapse, but they wouldn't be able to expand all that quickly, either.

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>>40400160
IT FUCKING WORKED

THOSE FAGGOT WARP USERS LOST THEIR SHIT GODS

PARTY HARD BITCHES, SUCK OUR ROBO SKELETON DICKS! GET READY FOR A MILLENNIA OF BUILD PYRAMIDS AND BEING SLAVES

KICK IT!

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>>40401590
>I was under the impression that Tau FTL drives still used the warp (barely

The Tau don't use the Warp to travel or even interact with it,. They use the void between the Warp and Real Space to propel them forward. (picture related).

So whatever happens to the Warp, won't affect the Tau. .

>>40401836
Of course, it also won't effect the Necrons, who can just go fucking fall sail through the webway after Cegorach and The Harlequins went poof. There is also their tech and quantum string shit

>>40401010
"With mankind at the height of its power the threat of aliens was trivial" Dark age of technology entry in the lexicanum. Also mankind had achieved bullshit tech level during the daot.

>>40401590
Warp travel still exists. If anything it's easier now, as the cellar field failing isn't an immediate death sentence and it may make it easier for non astronomicon reliant races to navigate. Tau lack the navigator gene and cannot into psychics, which is why they can only skip off the surface of the warp. The Imperium will no longer be able to do long range warp jumps, debates about the effect this would have without the astronomicon aside. They would howevernbe able to do multiple short jumps, hopping through the warp and readjusting. Warp travel will be slower, but not vanish, and they'll still be faster than the Tau. Orks don't navigate anyway so things are unchanged for them, Eldar use the web way and necrons have warpless FTL

Net result, the imperium fragments and shrinks, but doesn't totally wipe out. It splits into multiple factions, possibly warring, but still likely aligned against xenos and non human threats. The imperium is no longer a galactic threat, andan suffers greatly, but pockets of civilization will remain.

>>40400858
If I remember there were a couple of mentions of Imperial Fleets responding to distress signals and arriving before they were sent.

>>40402236
>The Empire of Ultramar
With the death of the Emperor and the Collapse of the Empire, the ultramarines are forced to do the unthinkable - amend the codex Astarte's. The new Codex Imperialis removes the size restrictions on chapters, and the Ultramarines call upon their successors as well as any loyalists who can and will join them to do so. Seeing it as their duty to preserve the Empire, a new, smaller crusade is launched to try and reassemble the shattered Imperium, led by Space Marine legions for the first time since the Heresy. The Ultramarines and their Council of Ultramar are the leaders of this new Empire, and continue to follow the Imperial code, venerating the Emperor as an exemplar if not a god,and idealizing the human form and villifying the Xenos. Their reunion efforts put them into conflict with...

>The Mechanocracy
An off overlooked fact is that the Mechanicus is and always was a part of the Imperium by alliance, technically a distinct entity and Vassal State within the greater structure. This treaty was made with the Emperor, because the Mechanicus considered him the Omnissiah. The Emperor is now dead, and that treaty is void. After a bloody civil war the Mechanicus, with its control of the Luna defences and most of the Imperial fleets, seizes control of the Sol system and Earth. Now the Imperial Mechanicus, this new empires goal is to reclaim the lost technology of the dark age and reunify the Empire under knowledge and the machine spirit. The death of the Emperor leads to the weakening of the Imperial Creed, a some begin to question if he was ever even the Omnissoah at all. With the threat of chaos greatly reduced and ecclesiarchal impositioned weakened, research regulations gradually relax, opening room for studying xenotech and new designs. Despite all this they remain cool not-quite-allies with....

>>40402319
>The Ecclesiarchal States
A collection of worlds united under the remnants of the Ministorum, elements of the IG, the inquisition, and the sisters of battle. Neutral between the two fragmented empires, the ecclesiarchal states seek to reunify humanity under the old conservative Imperial Truth, which both parties technically cleave from on various issues. Though the regulation against the ecclesiarchy having men at arms is now void, they are still smaller and weaker than the other parties, and rely on spiritual authority and diplomacy to manuever between the twos ambitions for their own ends. Higher Ranked officials, mostly enlightened Inquisitors, now seek to create a true Imperial God using the combined belief of humanity to replace the deceased Emperor. Their actions thus bend towards promoting fanatacism in the imperial creed and creating a nascent human god to fill the vaccume in the warp.

>Splinters
The Imperium has balkanized into countless republics, kingdoms, alliances, and other factions. Notable examples include the Space Wolves, who have retreated to their home world of Fenris and refuse to bend knee to any of the extant powers, instead raiding across the galaxy for supplies and equipment.

>>40400891
Altrosus clenched his teeth, scowling beneath the snarling visage of his helmet. A lasbolt pinged harmlessly off his raised pauldron as he charged forward, his chainsword revving with the wrath and pain of a thousand doomed souls as it cleaved the Guardsman in two. The soldier's two comrades let out a cry of pure fear as the demon-man trampled over the broken offal he had created, sprinting at full speed towards them, his weapon raised.

And then he slowed down. His feet, only seconds before thudding across the ruins his kind had scratched into the face of the planet, now waned in its fury. He began to walk, and a heavy weight came over his shoulders. Finally, he sank to the ground on his knees, clutching his head.

Altrosus was not his name. He was Delvan Gal. He had lived on Terra, and had answered the call of humanity's Emperor on his Great Crusade across the stars. His wife did not want him to go, but it was his destiny. No, it had nothing to do with his own destiny; he was a cog in the great mission of man. He would not spend his days toiling over spent soil and rock looking for minerals he knew had long since been harvested.

Delvan loved his wife dearly, but he had to go. He would be back for her, and one day, he could show her the stars he had conquered and tell her that for all the beauty he had seen in the endless universe, none had compared to her own. He had been so eager then, so sure of his people's place in the galaxy, of the mission to unite mankind's lost sons with their new Imperium, under one great leader..
Like a tide, the memories washed over him.

>The Freed Dominions
With the calming of warp, its most fervent servants suddenly found themselves cheated out of both the chance of immortality, and of power and influence granted. Still mutated and inhuman, but no longer cursed to serve, the suddenly lucid legions each claim the dozens of former daemon worlds that previously existed as mere toys to beings unimaginable. The released territories of the former Eye of Terror now slowly but surely rebuilt, its former reliance on the daemonic leaving entire planets filled with last, depraved monuments to former horrors that steadly are being built upon by the new freed inhuman populations.
Be you Xeno, human, Abhuman or superhuman, all who served chaos and now survive share a common feeling of being cheated, and being liberated. Strangely, its this collection of republics and dominions that nowdays most remind of ages past. Of times when mankind was hopeful for the future. And so are the heretics of the closed Eye.

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>>40402657
Damn, anon.... I already have that feely feel forming...

>>40400718
You are dumb and should feel dumb.

You obviously have read nothing. Die please now. End your life I'm pulling my own eyes out of their sockets due to your stupid words in this thread.

>>40402657
There was grey dust beneath his feet, now. Shutter doors breached before him and he was laying waste to twisted abominations. He remembered - this was his first battle with his brothers. The XVI Legion thundered through the complexes of Luna, destroying all resistance and stopping only at the word of the Emperor. In that day, they had become wolves let loose on Luna. Delvan had requested a message to be sent to his wife, but he was denied. The ships were carrying more valuable cargo, of course. He would be seeing her soon enough, at any rate.

The gene therapy had changed him, molded him into the ideal weapon of salvation for humanity. The love he had for his wife was there, but felt... different. Like key components had been stripped from a wondrous machine, and it would no longer ever work the same way.With the process, his mind and body were broken and rebuilt, stronger than before. The pain was excruciating, but he knew the necessity of it all

Now he was staring upon the man known as Horus, he who would own his life and spend it wisely. Delvan was overwhelmed by respect for this great man, this demi-god. A true son of the Emperor was leading his brothers, and he would lead the glorious charge from the front.

He saw a hundred worlds, and left a piece of himself on each. He took a piece back in return. Delvan saw the smiling face of a tribal boy whose family had allied with the Imperium, the boy's skinny knees patting on his shoulderpads as he rode on Delvan's back as they made their way to their extraction point. He saw a hundred thousand soldiers throw down their arms in surrender and drop to one knee before his company. Above all, Delvan saw death in all its ways and forms, as the dead eyes of a small girl stared through him from the ruins of an Imperial barrage. He couldn't remember his wife's face anymore.

>>40402768
Delvan couldn't remember how long it had been. All the fighting, all that death in the name of the Imperium and the Emperor's plans. Delvan began to form doubts in the back of his mind - was this truly the great destiny of mankind, to shed its own blood so freely?

Delvan fired his bolter to the last round of ammunition, and his three brothers barely reacted to his traitorous act before they went down. Horus had bidden them to wipe the Legion clean of Imperial sympathisers, and he obeyed without question. Throughout it all, the great Horus had led them with courage and conviction, where the Emperor had abandoned them and left them to their own devices. He would cleanse the Imperium of its corrupt leader, and a man of greater vision would be installed in his place. Horus was mankind's true destiny.

Horus was dead. Delvan sat aboard the Stormbird as it fled, harassed by small arms fire from Terra's surface. What had happened? He roared in frustration as the craft bobbed and weaved, soaring up into the atmosphere. He would have vengeance upon the Imperium.

Khorne was his master, and blood was his wine. His armour - once white, once green, now black. The Champion had given him the name of Altrosus, and he was to serve as his guard. Altrosus cared little, longing now merely to mindlessly butcher and maim in the name of his demonic patron.

Altrosus had butchered the Champion, catching him in a moment of weakness as an Eldar shuriken wedged in a gap between his armour. Cleaving his head, he held it aloft for all to see. It was not for them, though - it would take its rightful place on the Skull Throne.

But there was no Khorne, now. No more voices in his head. No desire to kill and destroy. He was an empty pit of spent anger. There had been so much purpose in his life, and nothing had come of it. What am I? He thought, his senses bubbling to the surface as the memories washed over him as a great tide. This was never how it was supposed to have been.

>>40402696
I can see the Sorcerers and Warp Priests of the Freed Dominions attempting to give birth to new chaos gods, good and evil, much like the Ecclesiarchy is trying to create a new Emperor. Rather than CHAOS WARGHBLARGH these nascent, minor powers would have a more Fae like feeling, being both good and evil, but also chaos in truth, courts of lesser entities representing many things.

Speaking of, does this mean the Eye of Terror recedes or closes? Are the Chaos gods keeping it open, or is it a permanent tear?

>>40402908
His hands trembling, he removed his helmet and let his chainsword drop to the ground. He was sweating in the exhaustion of the mental strain, and he could feel both of his hearts thundering in his chest. And yet - for the first time in far too many centuries - he was calm.

Delvan looked up, the two men before him stood with their lasrifles raised. One of them was crying in fear, the other pale and shivering. Both men were frozen in sheer terror.

To their horror, Delvan stood and slowly began to walk towards them. When he stood mere feet from them, he stopped. He looked down at them as before, his expression no longer snarling and feral, but simply tired. He dropped to one knee, causing one of the men to drop his rifle in surprise. Delvan smiled, picking it up and handing it back to the Guardsman, his huge mailed hand steadying the shaking barrel of the soldier's gun and pressing it against his own forehead. "I think..." he began, his voice no longer a booming war shout but barely above a hoarse whisper. "... I think it is time I spoke with my wife again."

And so Altrosus, Champion of the Black Legion, had died with Khorne, and Delvan the miner went to his own destiny.

>Gork and Mork dies
>Ork would still think they are alive
>They will come back to life eventually and reign over what remains of the Warp.

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>>40403017
>The Ur-Waagh

The Orks have forever been a plague on the galaxy, and those hoping the quietening of the Warp would bring about an end to that plague would be sorely disappointed. Despite an initial wave of confusion and despair that followed the destruction of their twin gods, Gork and Mork, the Orks proved ever resilient. The gestalt pyschic affect of the Waagh continued to function despite the absence in the immaterium, and this meant that despite the lack of leadership from prophets of Gork and Mork, Ork's could and would continue to fight.

The situation in fact, worsened, when a mighty war-boss rose and began to unite warlord after warlord under his boot: Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, Terror of Armageddon of Prophet of the Ork Gods, had finally returned and conquered his age old battleground of Armageddon, which could not stand against him in the wake of the Imperiums collapse. Wearing the bloodied cap and carrying the severed skull of his long time nemesis Comissar Yarrik - a skull which Ghazghkull speaks to and refers to as his closest friend - and ruling from the renamed Ork world of Waaghmageddon, Ghazghkull cast his terrible shadow across the fringes of Segmentum Solar and Beyond. Swollen to new, impossible size and crackling with eldritch power, Ork's now say that Gork and Mork last bit of scrappy might was cast into Ghazghkull on their death, so they might fight on eternally. Scholars now fear that if left unchecked, the Ur-Waagh commanded by Thraka might grow to such proportions that the combined Waagh of his followers could cause his transcendence from mere mortal being to an undying and limitless Daemon of Ork-Kind; maybe even a God.

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>>40400160
>Tyranids
> Hive mind in the warp

Tell me anon, what psyker powers do Tyranids have, I only see powers of the hive mind. We don't use the warp.

We kill it.

>>40400565
And then die off thanks to their inherent bugs.
Or fleeing back into flesh and get squashed by the universe as they have no souls.

>>40401061
They Great Crusader happened as the Eldar Empire was just eaten by Slaanesh. Hardly their "glory days".

>>40400451

Craftworld Eldar aren't psykers either, moron. Only Warlocks and Seers actually redevelop their natural psychic abilities.

>>40400160
>Emperor dies
Well then. Either he's reborn and the Imperium proceeds to go all Great Crusade 2 and 'win' 40k, or he stays dead and the Imperium is double fucked because now the Astronomican isn't working.

>>40401061

The Eldar had the same technological regression when the Fall happened that happened during the Dark Age of Technology. Remember the whole Talisman of Vaul thing? Those superweapons so individually valuable that two of them were worth waging the entire 12th Black Crusade for?

Regarding warp travel without Navigators/the Astronomicon:

Back before Navigators were discovered and back before the Astronomicon was necessary for them to do their work, humanity used very short Warp jumps to get around. Effectively it was like hopping around with FTL, and because it was short it was relatively safe, but it took way longer to get anywhere compared to making a single long warp jump. It was only once the Navigator gene was discovered that the Great Expansion occurred. Whenever a ship loses its Navigator they use this old school tactic to get around. So, yes, humanity would still have access to FTL travel, it would just be pretty fucking slow compared to modern warp travel, which itself is pretty slow since it apparently takes years to travel from one Segmentum to another.

>>40401061
lol, Black Fortresses.

>>40403513
This.
Even if the Hive Mind died, Hive Tyrants and the Swarmlord could take command since they have independent thought to a degree, with the Swarmlord being fully independent. Genestealers and Lictors would remain threats since they acted out of instinct rather than the Hive Mind most of the time.

>>40404975
Pretty sure the Hivemind is the collective mind of the Tyranids and If it was destroyed, the Tyranids would all drop dead.

>>40404975
>>40404993
I could see remnants under the Swarmlord, but most of the tyranids would die and they'd be reduced in size. Less galaxy spanning threat, more another contender.

>>40404993
Well, not all drop dead. Just revert to more basic creatures with no central guidance. Worlds in mid-infestation would become sorta like Catachan is suggested to be, while Genestealers still go about their silly plots, but never managing to summon the hive fleet no more.

Also, all hives en-route become just massive space beasts, that are a horror to suddenly be in touch with

>>40404993
The hivemind isn't a thing you can kill. It's a collective.

>>40405341
They say warp dickery was behind it. And warp itself is a collective as well. Aaand if the warp collectves were suddenly killed in some plot-device way, then...

Just swallow the plotenium device, Anun!

>>40404155
>Only Warlocks and Seers actually redevelop their natural psychic abilities.
Developing your Psyker abilities doesn't make you any more or less of a Psyker.

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>>40403017
No. Ghazgul will become the new ork god.

Do lasguns have no iron sights?

>>40400601
Though reincarnation exists, a new soul is only birthed when there aren't any old souls to stuff into the body. The Eldar still have to fuck to replenish their numbers and presumably souls in the warp got snuffed as well so the Eldar that were swallowed by Slaanesh are now deader than dead.

>>40407105
>and presumably souls in the warp got snuffed as well
Why would you assume that?

>>40407128
A Warp entity is something that exists entirely in the warp. By that definition, a soul stuck in the warp waiting for reincarnation gets snuffed out as well since they do not exist in realspace. All the daemons that have been summoned in realspace are probably still alive but they are now at 0.0001 percent of their original numbers.

>>40400518
>Chayyosh?
The more corrupted, the deader they are I say.
>Ships
Nothing, I think. Warp's still there, just no Daemons and shit.
>abilities
Still there.
>Orks
No.
>Tau
No.

I think it would be like it was before the Ancients and C'tan fucked everything up.

>>40406533
Most versions do I believe. Some forge worlds strap on all sorts of tacticool gubbins till /k would yell at them to stop, others provide you with a laser Mosin-nagant.

>>40404975
Then they begin fighting amongst themselves.

>>40406533
THere's like a million models of lasgun out there