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Welcome to Banished Quest!
You take the role of a young mage labeled a criminal by his people and cast out into the wider world. In the last thread you fought a battle against a disciple and pulled out a victory by the skin of your teeth.

It is currently the 12th of Svarthi, in the year 936 NH.

Character Sheet:
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Notes:
Using names or trips in this quest is heavily discouraged. While it is impossible for me to prevent you from doing so, I ask that you not. I will also not count any votes made while using names or trips.
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You reach out with your gauntleted hand, although you suppose it's not really a gauntlet any more. Your stone covered arm would be a more appropriate descriptor. Regardless, channeling vys you weaken the binds which hold together many of the conglomerate stone spires which stretch skyward all around you. They collapse with surprising ease, the massive boulders which composed them tumbling inward, towards the band of enemies lead by the disciple.

While the first wave of rock slides tumbles down the face of the mountain towards the advancing disciple and her entourage, you reach out to the Cat Spirit. Even with so vast a space between you, it barely taxes you at all to connect your mind to his. {There's a party of disciples advancing up the mountain towards the portal. I've already killed one of his disciples, but if they're all as powerful as the first one I doubt I'll manage to kill the next nineteen.}

From your vantage point high above the field of battle you see a metal claw shoot from the stone, bracing itself against the ground and dragging the rest of its body from the ground after it. Molten rock oozes from its open jaws, a replica of Mahana cast in steel. A second replica rises from the ground behind the large feline minion, and as the two metallic puppets launch themselves simultaneously at the minion Mahana takes a seat and begins calmly licking his wounds. {There is only one disciple still alive in this realm. The others are servants. Their capacity for independent action is greatly reduced. Usually they're slaved to disciples, a relationship which carries over into your own reality.}

Huh, that's... odd. You imagine a spirit's disciple can grow quite powerful by having their patron forcefully indoctrinate a handful of state officials and slave those state officials to the disciple's will. Then again, such a power grab seems like it would be tenuous at best, if the capacity for individual action is truly as limited as the Cat says.
(1/?)
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The Cat's two metallic clones are mauling the feline minion quite violently, they've managed to rip the creature in half and one has got its head caught within its jaws. The other is eviscerating the feline spirit's lower body while its hind legs kick desperately at the ground.

You're a little disturbed by the fact that even ripped in half the minion still seems able to function. As you watch the carnage, the Cat's voice thunders through your skull. {I trust that you'll be able to deal with them on your own, but I'll divert some of my minions to harass them. Unfortunately I cannot interfere personally, the majority of my attention must be focused on the spirit himself.}

As he says this, the giant metal replica of the Cat spirit which had previously been occupied chewing on the feline minion's spine stands up and starts to stalk off into the forest of stone spires, a handful of the smaller rodent-like minions following in its wake. While it advances, you keep the disciple and her entourage distracted by weakening more and more of those stone spires and sending the resulting loose boulders tumbling down the mountain towards her.

As the first wave of rocks hits the woman she gestures dismissively, and they're hurled backwards. Some knock over near-by stone spires while others merely fly off into the surroundings. However, as the waves of rocks start to come closer and closer together they reach a point where the woman simply can't deflect all of them. One slams into a servant, smashing it into a dozen pieces. They seem to be made of solid stone. Another boulder clips one of the servants in the head, causing the rest of its body to merely slump forward. Good to know that removing the head kills them.
(2/3)
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Hurray!
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The disciple seems to realize that alone she's being overwhelmed, and suddenly the servants following her take on a more active role in the fighting. They run forward, brandishing their swords. As smaller boulders draw near they swing their blades, bisecting them and rendering them harmless. Their swords leave thin layers of molten rock on every boulder they cut, they must be unbelievably hot. The larger boulders are thrown off course by the Disciple.

This strategy seems to work for them until a giant metal lion comes crashing through a stone spire and leaps at the disciple. It crashes into her, knocking her to the ground, but a moment later a stone pillar shoots from the ground and hits the metal replica of the Cat in the abdomen. The metal cat is thrown through the air even as the rodent minions swarm over the nearest servant. All while boulders rain down on them from above. It's chaos, almost immediately. Four of the servants go down in an quick succession while the disciple is occupied fighting the metallic lion.

Eventually the servants seem to get their shit together. Six of them turn towards the rodent minions and make short work of them, while the remaining four launch themselves at the metallic cat. It swipes the first one that gets close aside with a clawed hand, smashing it apart, but the next one swings at it with his sword and severs a limb. The disciple has devoted half of her attention to deflecting the stones falling on the party from above and the other half to keeping the cat's metal replica confined with giant stone fist which rise from the ground beneath its feet.

When the skirmish is concluded there's only seven servants left and but a single disciple. They resume their march up the mountain, but it isn't long before they come within range of your siege weapons and you turn your ballistae and trebuchets against them.
(3/4)
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Unfortunately your trebuchets don't managed to do particularly much. The bird creatures which still circle the volcano's mouth attack en masse, quickly overwhelming the forty soldiers you sent to guard them. Some of the cat's minions streaming through the ever-expanding portal divert their attention away from the imminent conflict between the Cat and the spirit with a mirror for a face in order to engage the rotted bird creatures in combat.

Still, the ballistae prove quite effective. The disciple clearly wasn't expecting any fast moving projectiles and the first two shots manage to utterly destroy two more servants, leaving her with only five of them left. She seems to adjust afterwards though, nudging the ballista projectiles just subtly off course. You still manage to crush one more servant before they start to charge forward, closing with your fortifications. Unfortunately once they draw close enough you're forced to draw your stone soldiers off the siege engines and form them into ranks. You've only got one hundred twenty three left, the forty you sent to guard the trebuchets having been reduced to just sixteen and still occupied fighting off the swarms of bird creatures.

>Send a massed charge of the remaining stone soldiers, forward, keep the five elites near-by as body guards.
>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
>Charge in with your forces to face the disciple head on.
>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
>Write-in
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>>40355465
>>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
HOOOOLD POSITIONS

We're dug in, let them split themselves off and weaken while trying to get past our defenses.
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>>40355465
>>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.

Can we dig a trench?
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>>40355465
Remember lads. The disciple is biological. A human. Melt her little face off and call it a day.
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>>40355465
>>Send a massed charge of the remaining stone soldiers, forward, keep the five elites near-by as body guards.
Can we convert any of the stone soldiers into elites?
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>>40355465
Could we try freezing the disciples heart?
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>>40355465
>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
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>>40355465
>>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355465
>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
Can we prep
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
And try and use them to flank or attack from under the ground via coming out of the mountain side?
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>>40355465
>>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355576
Why do you want to kill her quick?
Remember the last time we killed a disciple, it came back stronger than before.
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>>40355453
>aoe leech
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>>40355465
>AOE + Leech
>>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
>Make 5-10 Metal Bodyguards
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>>40355465
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems (6 vys)
Archers swordsmen a variety of troops.
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>>40355465
>>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355576
>>40355550
>>40355614
The last disciple wasn't biological what makes you think this one is?
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>>40355465
>Wait for them to break themselves against your fortifications.
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355627
This
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>>40355653
>>40355465
>>40355465
Soma, is the mage a biological?
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>>40355633
I like this, but can we make it a cavalry charge instead?
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>>40355465
>AOE Leech
>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355504
>>40355627
>>40355633
These

Guys c'mon we need the Vys. We're about to battle another GM,
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So when she gets up here who up for just droping the temperature like a rock and freezing her assin place.
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>>40355465
>AOE Leech
>>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355465
>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)

Can we also do the AOE Leech?
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>>40355627
>>40355633
>>40355501
>>40355465
Make a trench, call up some archers, cast AOE + Leech, wait for them to break on our soldiers. Keep up the leech while they fight our troops should net us quite a bit. Keep Metal soldiers in reserve for when we have to finish off the disciple.
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>>40355465
>You don't need bodyguards, send the elites forward along with the stone puppets.
>Draw from the magma lake below to make a few dozen magma and stone golems. (6 vys)
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>>40355671
>>40355627
>>40355594
>>40355583
>>40355504
>>40355501
>>40355704
>>40355755
>Wait until you see the nonexistent whites of their eyes!

>>40355671
>>40355652
>>40355633
>>40355613
>>40355594
>>40355585
>>40355704
>>40355731
>>40355753
>Lava golems

>>40355573
>Charge, the light brigade!

>>40355690
>>40355585
>>40355731
>>40355753
>Throw everything you've got.

>>40355690
>>40355704
>>40355673
>>40355627
>>40355731
>>40355753
>>40355755
>AOE Leech

So it seems like waiting for them to come to you, drawing lava from the lake to create more golems, and casting an AOE leeching spell wins out. You'll further fortify your position as well.
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>>40355766
So, Soma? Can you say whether or not the servant looks human? Fighting against a biological gives us huge advantages, especially with anatomy.
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>waiting for modifiers
Heart can't handle it.

>>40355786
Last one wasn't we can probably assume this one isn't as well.


Also reposting this here cause I don't want us to forget to have an indepth conversation with Cat Bro
>>>Seige Fluff empowering him
>>>Boar Tusk
>>>Disciples (and maybe a way to have some of his power without all the strings attached)
>>>Other possible ways we might give him some power.
>>>Have him take a look at Profectus's arm and the Spirit attached to it.
>>>Have him take a look at our Guantlet to see if it may turn harmful towards us. Don't fully trust The Stooges.
>>The Entity and anything he may know about it, including ways to possibly remove it or things it may inhibit.
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ROOOLL ME... let's see here. I think I'll need a few separate rolls for this.

I need some 3d10+20 (+4 from fortification, +2 from positioning, +6 from Gauntlet (shoring up the defenses), +2 from SMUT, +6 from outnumbering the enemy) vs DC 42 (Base 20, +8 from Earth GM, +6 from Born in the Stone, +4 from Gear, +2 from Environment, +2 from Mirror Face's assistance) to hold your position in the face of the enemy assault.

I need a 3d10 flat vs DC 15 for the AOE Leech spell.

I need a 3d10+14 (+4 from Fire Magic, +2 from Environment, +2 from readily available materials, +6 from Gauntlet) vs DC 20 to determine the number and quality of stone/magma golems you create. Should be a pretty easy roll to pass, almost can't fail, but there is a slim chance.

Total of 9 rolls.

>>40355786
Who knows~
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Rolled 2, 6, 9 + 20 = 37 (3d10 + 20)

>>40355927
Oh dear
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Rolled 9, 2, 2 + 20 = 33 (3d10 + 20)

>>40355927
dayum. much dice.
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Rolled 5, 5, 2, 4, 7, 10, 10, 10, 6 = 59 (9d10)

>>40355927
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Rolled 8, 5, 4 + 20 = 37 (3d10 + 20)

>>40355927
Damn it boss. I maintain our anatomical studies and water magic/nature magic ought to be enough.
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Rolled 4, 5, 1 = 10 (3d10)

>>40355927
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Rolled 10, 4, 10 = 24 (3d10)

>>40355927
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Rolled 6, 8, 10 = 24 (3d10)

>>40355927
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Rolled 2, 6, 3 + 14 = 25 (3d10 + 14)

>>40355927
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Rolled 9, 4, 4 = 17 (3d10)

>>40355927
and the Leech
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Rolled 6, 7, 10 + 14 = 37 (3d10 + 14)

>>40355927
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Rolled 1, 10, 4 = 15 (3d10)

>>40355927
Last roll.
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Rolled 3, 3, 1 = 7 (3d10)

>>40355927
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>>40355927
and the golems
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>>40355944
Uhh
Does that count as anything?
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>>40355932
>>40355940
>>40355946
>37, 33, 37 vs DC 42
>Severe Failure!

>>40355952
>>40355953
>>40355957
>10, 24, 24 vs DC 15
>Regular Success!

>>40355960
>>40355961
>>40355970
>25, 31, 37 vs DC 20
>Great Success!

So as it stands: Your position is going to be overrun, you're going to successfully cast an AOE leeching spell, and you're going to make a shit ton of magma golems.

You could spend 10 vys to make the first roll into a Regular Success, allowing you to hold your ground against the assault. You could spend 5 vys to make it so that you at least aren't fucked quite as hard.
>Spend 10
>Spend 5
>Don't spend.

You could spend 5 vys to make it a really good AOE Leeching spell, make a really strong connection to the disciple and the servants.
>Spend 5
>Don't Spend
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>>40356000
No separate rolls and even if you cut them in 3 no natty 30
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>>40355932
>>40355940
>>40355946
37, 33, 37
Spend 10 to improve

>>40355946
>>40355952
>>40355953
10, 24, 24
Spend 5 only because it's Leech and we shold make it back

>>40355957
>>40355960
>>40355961
38, 25, 31
All good
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>>40356038
>Spend 10
>Spend 5
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>>40356038
spend 10
spend 5
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Reminder, you're at 39/54 vys. You can spend on both rolls if you want, since they're for separate things.
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>>40356038
Spend 15
Worth it.
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>>40356038
>Spend 10
>Spend 5
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>>40356038
>make a really strong connection to the disciple and the servants.

Why does that sound bad?
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>>40356038
>Spend 10
>Spend 5
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>>40356038
Spend it, Spend it all
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>>40356038
Spend 10
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>>40356038
Spend 15

I swear to god if this Leech spell fucks us over I'm gonna throw my laptop across the room.
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>>40356071
so no cat bonus?
we always get the +4,
HAS HE FORSAKEN US?!
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>>40356038
spend 10
dont spend
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>>40356105
He's about to be very occupied with a very pissed off spirit. His full attention is elsewhere. They only get Mirror Face's bonus because the battle is taking place in Mirror Face's realm, which is basically an extension of his mind.
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>>40356038
Spend it all.

>>40356105
>>40356071
Mistake or intentional? Would help a ton.
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>>40356038
>Defenses: Spend 10
>Leech: Spend 5
Is the Leech to drain them of vys? There's 1 Disciple and 5 servants which is 6 sources to drain vys from so that's a decent amount of vys returned. Or is the leech just disrupting the connection between The Disciples and their servants?
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>>40356099
I called it
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>>40356126
Oh okay

>>40356038
Spend 15
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>>40356099
I have a bad feeling about the leech spell for some reason
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>>40356114
>>40356095
>>40356086
>>40356074
>>40356070
>>40356073
>>40356066
>>40356132
>>40356099
>>40356162
>>40356142
>Spend 10

>>40356099
>>40356132
>>40356142
>>40356091
>>40356086
>>40356074
>>40356073
>>40356070
>>40356066
>>40356162
>Spend 5

>>40356114
>>40356095
>Don't spend on leech.

Looks like you're spending everything.

That will put you initially at 24/54 vys plus or minus whatever you get from leeching them.
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>>40356071
>>40356126
So since we're set on spending for both, mind telling us how much Vys we're gonna regain from this? Or was that Leech spell a really bad mistake?
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>>40356195
>plus or minus
PANIC
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>>40356167
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>>40356223
It was a great success, we better gain from this.

I could see if it was only a regular success but come on.
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>>40356203
(1 Disciple + 5 Servants) * X vys > 15 vys spent
Gotta drain at least 3 vys from each to get back what we spent on for the vys boost on our actions. But with Soma smiling from his keikaku, I'd say we just fucked ourselves over.
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>>40356266
>you greatly succeeded in drinking the acid
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>>40356276
4 servants
Another went down in the ballistae volleys
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>>40356325
thank you for the correction, that means Mik needs to draing at 3 vys from each to break even, draining more than 3 vys from each would land us a profit.
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>>40356195
Remember how Vatis could reverse or change magic with the manipulate spell? Yeah, this is a GM. We won't get away with that bullshit. Luckily, some bright lads in the IRC know of a thing that can help us. Countering her manipulate spell against our leech results in a mental dominance power. And we've got perks, such as "A mind is a terrible thing to waste," that gives us a huge advantage.
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>>40356279
It has to use Vys in it's spells. If it's it's just raw Fire and Earth Vys we can use that.

>>40356276
We're both skilled GMs and we're also a Master in another and skilled in all the other elements. And Samjan are more naturally talented in magic anyway.

In a Leech tug of war with the GM we should win. and i doubt the Soldiers can defend themselves from a Leech spell.

Also gotta keep in mind they're being affected by the spell while fighting our soldiers. They won't be putting their focus in defending their reserves they'll be defending their bodies.

Also both of our Spirit allies are about to be really busy so don't give me no Mirror Face interaction bullshit.
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>>40356405
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>>40356405
>>40356422
So if we get into a Leech Tug of War with the GM our Mind perk should help a ton. I hesitate to say that Frosty should help as well for the mental fortitude.
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>>40356422
>>40356405
GM vs GM

She's preoccupied with battle

We have the Mind trait, and Frosty.

I think we'll come out on top.
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>>40356493
Yeah, but she has given a part of her over to a Spirit, that could mean she has the same kind of trait as we do to resist outside influences.
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>>40356527
Maybe, don't know. But we are particularly skilled in this department. And she is fighting.

We'll see.
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>>40356527
Wrong.
we earned that trait. It wasn't given.
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>>40356596
He's saying she may have a similar resistance to outside influences that we have given to her by the spirit.
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>>40356630
WTF are you saying
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>>40356656
Let me try and translate for you
"He's saying that she may have a similar resistance to outside influences that was given to her by the mirror face"
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>>40356656
R u retard?
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>>40356656
That was a clarification, don't think it gets much clearer.
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>>40356680
Why would a spirit make it harder for himself to communicate?
wtf are the chances of that.
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>>40356728
I don't think you understand
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>>40356728
What? we have the trait and we can communicate just fine. It's just about resisting outside influences when they try to influence you.

You're not making a whole lot of sense here.
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Even if she does have the trait I still think we'll win the tug of war. We have some bonuses to that sort of thing and she's in the middle of a battle.

I think worst case it's a draw with her but we still Leech some from the Servants.
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>>40356808
She wouldn't be negating the spell on just herself, it would be the entire spell she manipulates
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>>40356808
I think Soma said that Spirits give parts of themselves when they make disciples, that makes me think that a part of its mind is in hers.
Though that'll make it infinitely harder if I'm right, it should also divert attention from the cat.
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>>40356828
It's not "negating a spell"

A connection is established and each party is trying to pull Vys from the other into them self.

We're pulling from several different targets.

>>40356808
We also Spent 5 Vys enhancing the spell.
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>>40356864
The part is so small i don't think it classifies as its' "mind" just a piece of essence providing the Disciple with extra power.
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>>40356864
Yes he did say that. But the other spirit iis busy. How do you think he plans on helping?
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You gesture, and two holes rip themselves open below you. Magma spews forth, spurting out of the rents you've opened in the earth and flooding the approach with molten rock. The Disciple seems undeterred. Rather than put off, she gathers the magma together and in an instant she's created a ramp to the top of your barricade. You send your soldiers rushing forward while drawing upon the magma spewing from the vents you created in the ground to create some reinforcements.

As your soldiers approach the charging servants the servants swing their blades, neatly severing the spear tips of your stone soldiers. Then they close to melee range and start hacking them apart. You have the advantage of numbers, and fairly easily create a press of bodies which the servants have trouble getting past. However, your puppets are just stone and you're facing a grandmaster Earth Vatis. There's a burst of vys, and the first three ranks of your soldiers are reduced to a fine dust.

As the servants carve through more and more of your soldiers you begin to grow desperate, forcing more and more into the breach in your defenses. Fortunately, just as they're about to burst through your line you finish crafting your reinforcements from the molten rock below. Twelve golems slide out of the lava flows flanking the ramp the disciple created, two launching globs of molten rock at her while the other ten surge after the servants.

(1/3 or 4)
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One of the servants falls when a glob of lava launched by one of the golems hits him in the back of the head, and another is engulfed by another golems gelatinous form. However they two remaining servants press their backs together and seem resolved to fighting on two fronts simultaneously. One bisects a magma golem while the other removes the heads of six of your soldiers.

The disciple is fairing far better. She's already reduced one to a pile of cold rubble and the other she's ripping apart casually, hurling the molten lava at your own soldiers. You sense a build up of vys, and seeking to head off whatever spell she's preparing you cast a leeching spell modified by the Ranged and Area of Effect metamagics, hoping to affect both the two remaining servants and the disciple.
>Vys Pool: (20/54)
I forgot to apply the cost of the leech spell initially.

A ball of roiling vys forms in front of your chest, only to be launched towards the disciple. It burst in midair, tendrils flying from the mass and connecting you to the two servants, the disciples, a number of your own soldiers, and a handful of the Cat's minions. As the spell takes effect, you're replenished by a veritable flood of vys into your reserves.
>Vys Pool: (41/54)

>Enemy Turn!
>Enemies Remaining: 2x Servants (Surrounded, Leeched), 1x Disciple (Leeched)
>Allies Remaining: 61x Stone Puppets, 5x Metal Elites, 9x Magma Golems
>Status Effects: None

The disciple cast a spell, and suddenly the flow of vys into your reserves is reversed. You feel as though you've been punched and the gut and all the air is rushing out of your lungs. The two servants, who had been struggling to ward off the press of your own minions, seem revitalized. They gather vys within themselves, vys stolen from you, and release it in two great burst of Earth magic. An entire wave of your stone puppets are destroyed in an instant, as are two of your magma golems.
>Vys Pool: (35/54)

(2/3)
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The disciple by contrast seems to have dedicated herself fully to maintaining the stolen leech spell. You feel her cold halds digging into the core of your being, her scrabbling fingers tearing away larger and larger chunks of your reserves and repurposing them for her own usage. It's a horrible sensation, it feels as if all that you are is being violated by this woman.
>Vys Pool: (31/54)

>Your Turn!
>Enemies Remaining: 2x Servants (Surrounded), 1x Disciple
>Allies Remaining: 54x Stone Puppets, 5x Metal Elites, 7x Magma Golems
>Status Effects: Leeched x3

>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
>Sever the connection, before your reserves are drained any further.
>Shift the attention of your magma golems away from the two servants, try to overwhelm the disciple.
>Write-in
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>>40356996
>manipulate the fuck out dat bitch
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>>40356996
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
Remember our mental advantages guys. Lets take this soul selling, mindwhoring bitch to town.
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
We can beat her
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>>40356996
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
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>>40356996
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
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>>40356996
>Shift the attention of your magma golems away from the two servants, try to overwhelm the disciple.
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.

back and forth like a seesaw
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>>40356996
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
So she wants to play tug-o-war in the theme of mana-whore eh? Well two can play at that game!
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
This is something we won't fail.
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
If we are able to do it at the same time, try to have some soldiers attack the disciple to disturb her Attention.
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>>40356996
Let's drain this bitch dry.
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>>40356996
>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
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>>40356996
>>Cast Manipulate+Leech and try to retake control of the spell.
DRAIN HER INTO A HUSK
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>>40356996
>It's a horrible sensation, it feels as if all that you are is being violated by this woman.
wtf is this? Soul-rape?
including this to my previous >>40357063
>Shift the attention of your Metal elites away from the two servants, try to overwhelm the disciple. If shes a Earth GM, I bet she can't do shit against solid steel.
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>>40357072
Seconding
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>>40357072
>>40357069
>>40357063
>>40357049
>>40357038
>>40357036
>>40357033
>>40357021
>>40357020
>>40357016
>>40357099
>>40357124
>Tug o' War

>>40357049
>>40357096
>Step up the attack.

ROOOOOOLL 3d10+12 (+6 from A Terrible Thing to Waste, +2 from Expert Metal Magic (Reinforcing your control over the spell, rather than reinforcing your mind), +4 due to circumstance) vs DC 26 (Base 20, +4 from Metal Magic (Reinforcing her control on the spell, not her mind), +2 from Spirit Boon)
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Rolled 10, 6, 2 + 12 = 30 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
We got this in the bag.
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Rolled 5, 9, 6 + 12 = 32 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
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Rolled 10, 6, 5 + 12 = 33 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
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Rolled 3, 8, 9 + 12 = 32 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
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Rolled 4, 5, 6 + 12 = 27 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
VIOLATE
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Rolled 2, 3, 9 + 12 = 26 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
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Rolled 1, 9, 4 + 12 = 26 (3d10 + 12)

>>40357261
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>>40357274
>>40357278
>>40357279
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>>40357274
>>40357278
>>40357279
>Disciple Status : BTFO
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>>40357274
>>40357278
>>40357279
>30, 32, 33 vs DC 26
>Great Success!
Tippity tap tap typin~
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>>40357274
>>40357278
>>40357279
#rekt
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>>40357261
Damn that +4 vs our +2 might imply she is a Master level metal vatis.
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>>40357315
DIE FOUL BITCH FROM HELL
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>>40357325
Or due to the fact that she caught us off guard
Doubly so due to the fact that most anons forgot about manipulate reversing things
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>>40357308
>>40357320
>>40357335
>>40357306

Let's not get ahead of ourselves lads. Get ready for round two. Disciples never seem to go down easy. She'll probably rip off her skin and get a vys boost or some shit.
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WE NEED TO KNOCK HER OUT SOMA CONFORMED SHE CAN ONLY GO FINAL FORM WHEN SHE DIES.
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>>40356996
>Write-in
Send Poison through the Connection
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>>40357356
We'll tire her out so she won't go into second form, Soma confirmed this to be possible and preferable.
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>>40357356
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>>40357363
Wouldn't leecher her dry be equivalent to draining her soul?

Fuck why don't we just erode her soul to nothing ?
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>>40357367
you're late bruh. We can use this in our next move if she attempts to reverse polarity again.
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>>40357383
>why don't we just erode her soul to nothing

GM earth vatis thats why.
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>>40357377
Do we know what "true form" really means? For the disciple I mean.

>>40357468
delete it quick!
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>>40357490
Remember how the last disciple became badass after dying? That's the "true form".
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>>40357490
Rejuvenated and having an immensely fiery temper.
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>>40357261
>>40357315
Shouldn't we get a bonus from Frosty as well?
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>>40357541
We passed all of them you greedy nigger
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>>40357562
It was more curiosity for future circumstances when we may face opponents who can fight more and we need it.
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>>40357541
Yeah. We need a bonus at soul rape due to being a man, too.
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>>40357541
Frosty applies to physicals and mind resist, this is spell manipulation we rolling for and there's no water in Mirror face's realm.
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>>40357602
>*Frosty: Largely able to ignore cold, +4 bonus to ice and freezing based spells, +4 bonus to healing, sanity fortified by stoic mentality.
Nah it effects sanity only
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Ok, so we can't kill her and she appears to be Master in Metal Magic (+4 when we only got +2) so i suggest, as costly as it'll be, an Ice prison. It'll be cheaper for us and we may get a malus but she'll have zero control over it and it'll be a way to keep her down until her Spirit dies without her going into her True Form.

Also as Cat Bros realm takes over this one more and more we'll lose that malus and gain a bonus because his realm is full of waterfalls an shit.
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>>40357648
If someone vys goes kaput they pass out wouldn't the same apply to her
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>>40357705
she got spirit hacks
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Imagine how pissed off that other Disciple must have been.

>goes through a massive fight slaying our golems
>Closes in on the enemy mage after taking serious damage
>make finial mad dash and cave in the guys rib cage
>2 seconds later he's perfectly fine, full on mana, and put a spear through your "head"
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>>40357705
she's an earth GM, she can still do simple earth bending with just unit of 1 vys. She'll just be on wobbly legs and half conscious at that point.
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>>40357705
>>40357648
Still gotta imprison her after she passes out. Don't want her waking up due to some passive spirit bullshit and ganking us in the back.

Also leave the Leech spell on her

Should we keep her alive?
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>>40357734
>Wooooooow dude he healed himself completely
>Hahahaha what the fuck
>This Vatis is garbage, dude
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>>40357765
>>40357734
Especially since we'd only used Earth and Fire magic up until then. He had to be assuming we were just a squishy Earth GM and Fire Master who specializes in golem control and strategy.

Glad we can actually stand up in semi close quarters. Even without our armor on.
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>>40357763
Interesting thought. Disciples are imbued with a portion of a spirit's soul. We should take that soul shard before the damn cat ganks big spirit. I really want to play around with primordial soul substance.
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>>40357765
>I was dodging, and he still hit me!
>woooooooooow
>nothing I could do
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>>40357828
Probably best to destroy it since as long as it has some essence left it'll probably still be able to come back.
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>>40357828
If per-chance we can't do anything to it during experimentation, we could always feed that substance to either kitty-bro or Ricky (feeding it to Ricky as an apology gift).
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>>40357856
>>40357765
>>40357734
Martials get BTFO.
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>>40357872
Wizards op pls nerf
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>>40357872
Imagine how terrible it would have been if we'd started off as a martial guy
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>>40357872
A Martial would've dodged/blocked/and cut like a big dick G
Without vys
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>>40357897
>terrible
We'd just have a lower power cap, and have to rely on artifacts even more than we already do.
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>>40357897
The only way to be viable as a martial guy in this quest it to just get some insanely enchanted armor and weapons and keep training until you're untouchable.
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>>40357897
So glad my same fagging prevented that debacle. Thank you, yes, thank you.
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>>40357897
>tfw you wanted to be the soldier

Life is pain
Existence is hurt
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>>40357897
We would have needed a water vatis companion so badly
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>>40357910
You mean like the enemy did? and got fucked
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>>40357923
Imagine how terrible it would be if we never got the cloak
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>>40357930
>>irc
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>>40357931
Water vatis master race
being a soldier would have been cool though
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>>40357943
all the monies... Mik's jew side be cryin.
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>>40357943
Would've stolen Sadiks cart from him.

Or focused enchanting until we could build one of our own.
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REKT'EM'AN'BERRY'D'EM
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>>40357943
I don't think that would have stopped us from amassing a horde of artifacts and gold. We'd just look like an autist dragging it around everywhere.
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>>40357938
Like big dick G anon
Not like a little bitch

>>40357943
Speaking of which can we at least just grab some pouches, bags, or a backpack or something to store some other items in?

Seriously tired of relying on the Cloak all the time
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>>40357955
>>40357931
We'd probably still of had some magic capacity if we'd been a soldier. Kind of like Drazi
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>>40357976
>>40357943
Probalby would have set up a home base to return to after every "exploration" to store our shit.
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>>40357989
Yeah I think we would've had a rank in fire
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>>40357989
True, but it would have changed the balance of things, our equipment and tactics would have been much more important
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>>40357923
Pure martial maybe. But shit even Darzi has expert in 2 elements and Vatis in a third.
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>>40357995
and then we would forget about said homebase 50 threads in.
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Even if we'd chosen soldier people still would've decided to level up their magic as far as possible as soon as possible.
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>>40358027
Nah we'd end up having a base in each city to stash our shit in. Fortified and Hidden like all hell.
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>>40358032
And rightly so
Still, playing a mainly melee fighter with a high metal focus who can turn himself to steel and beat people down Colossus style would be cool
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>>40358064
and have literal balls of steel
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>>40357987
Don't like the cloak eh? Well, you must be in fag heaven right now rolling in all kinds of no cloak shit and grass and stuff.
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>>40358064
Still waiting to meet a Metal GM who solely reinforces his own body and just beats the shit outta people boxer style while calling them a bitch.
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>>40358083
>Dwarves
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>>40358076
>>40358083

Well, I know Soma is planning to do some kind of perspective shift or another quest in the same universe post time skip. Maybe we can play the Full Metal Batman
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>>40358083
Please, Soma, don't ignore this.
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So that's the game she wants to play, eh? Well, that's fine. That's no problem for you. Casting your own manipulate spell and channeling Metal magic you engage in a battle of wills against the disciple for control over the spell. You feel an otherworldly presence clawing at your reserves, but with relative ease you force her connection out of you and retake the two connections linking the servants to your reserves. You drink from the servants as if trying to suck the last few drops of wine from an empty bottle, quickly reducing them to unconscious, empty husk.
>Vys Pool: (43/54)

The Disciple proves a harder nut to crack. She's more skilled than you are as a Metal Vatis but your will is inexorable. Your connection advances steadily, bolstered by the vys you drained from the two servants. She dedicates the whole of her vys pool to fighting you off, she fights tooth and nail, but in the end it's all for naught. One of your molten golems swings a meaty club of an arm and smashes her in the ribs, sending her sprawling and distracting her enough that you can make a final push.

Linking your reserves to hers you drink deeply, but her reserves are far larger than yours. Nowhere near the level of your Master, the Varistha, or many of the other Vatis you've met but respectable without a doubt, especially for a human. You manage to fill your reserves fully but even then, you feel that she nearly matches you in remaining vys.
>Vys Pool: (54/54)

>Enemy Turn!
>Enemies Remaining: 1x Disciple (Leeched)
>Allies Remaining: 54x Stone Puppets, 7x Magma Golems, 5x Metal Elites
>Status Effects: None
(1/3)
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>>40358080
Actually yes because it makes this section more fun
If it was fixed y'all would've just said shoot our gun lol and that's more imo

I just don't care for it

It doesn't make sense to not have some other storage option on us when the cloak isn't invincibile
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You feel the connection forcefully severed, seems the Disciple decided to cut her losses. She leaps to her feet, and releases a pulse of Earth magic. The magma golem is turned to solid stone, the molten rock which composed the majority of its body slowly solidifying. The Disciple has a nasty burn in her side from where it hit her, but she doesn't seem terribly bothered.

The gestures sharply and the stone shoots up from the ground, blocking her from view. Her allies dead or unconscious and she's outnumbered nearly fifty to one. You suppose you can't blame her for going on the defensive. However, before you can press the attack a tremor shakes the earth, nearly throwing you from the ramparts you've crafted. Snapping your eyes open you split your attention between maintaining your hold over your creations and trying to locate the cause of the disturbance.

What you see strikes you speechless. The Mirror Faced spirit lies in the dirt of his own realm, the Cat Spirit's jaws around its neck. The Cat is missing one of his hind legs and his fur is singed. A large swathe of his side is simply missing, spilling the ethereal substance that seems to make up his insides into the world around him. Their battlefield has been almost completely leveled, deep holes bored by some unknown means dot the landscape as do claw marks and signs of struggle.

The tremor seems to have been caused by both the Mirror Faced spirit and the Cat spirit slamming into the ground simultaneously. Some sort of unseen communication seems to pass between the two, and then the cat spirit bites down.

In an instant the world around you vanishes. You're left floating in a black void, the black stone and red sky which once populated the world vanishing. Including your constructs and golems, the fortifications you created, everything save the portal to the cat spirit's realm is replaced by a black vacuum.

(2/3)
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You struggle to breathe, but opening your mouth only causes the air to be sucked from your lungs. As you clutch at your throat, kicking desperately towards the looming portal into the Cat's domain, there's a sudden thunderous clash and you find yourself sitting on a cool marble floor. The sound of a water fall gently pattering against stone echoes through the chamber all around you.

The flaming rodents are gone, you don't know if they were dismissed by the cat spirit or if they simply vanished for some unknown reason. For a long while you simply lay there, sucking in the fresh air and enjoying the fact that each lungful no longer burns your throat.

Eventually you force yourself to sit up. There's no sign of the disciple you were fighting. No sign of the servants you'd knocked unconscious. Just cool stone. Two braziers burn on either side of a tall arched passageway, casting their warm light over the room. Windows line the passageway on either side, the light spilling in tinted orange. You don't see the cat anywhere, nor do you hear anything beyond the trickle of water against rocks.

>Explore, see what there is to see.
>Call out to the cat spirit.
>Write-in
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
>Call out to the cat spirit.

Well, we did our work. It's time to get paid.
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>>40358171
>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>Call out to the cat spirit.
The scythe's gone too, right?
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>>40358171
Remove gauntlet
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>>40358171
>>Explore, see what there is to see.
>>Call out to the cat spirit.
Call out, if he doesn't answer then start exploring.
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
>>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>>Explore, see what there is to see.
>>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
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>>40358171
>>Explore, see what there is to see.
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>Seige Fluff empowering him
>>Boar Tusk
>>Disciples (and maybe a way to have some of his power without all the strings attached)
>>Other possible ways we might give him some power.
>>Have him take a look at Profectus's arm and the Spirit attached to it.
>>Have him take a look at our Guantlet to see if it may turn harmful towards us. Don't fully trust The Stooges.
>>The Entity and anything he may know about it, including ways to possibly remove it or things it may inhibit.
Just reporting this so we don't forget what to speak with Cat Bro on. Though he may be too tired to talk right now.
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>>40358171
>Explore, see what there is to see.
>Call out to the cat spirit.

"Well, that was fun. Lets do it again some time."
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>>40358171
>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358171
>Call out to the cat spirit.
>"So...how was your conquest? I take it you like the feeling of having more metaphorical space to stretch your legs. Nice place by the way. It's miles better than the volcanic setting the other spirit made. Care to give me a tour?"
>Explore
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>>40358171
Do we still have the scythe?
>>Explore, see what there is to see.
>>Call out to the cat spirit.
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>>40358246
reposting

>>40358255
This
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>>40358207
Yeah take that shit off before it encapsulates us
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>>40358255
I am also a fan of this
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>>40358255
in favor of
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>>40358255
Sure
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Lemme just order this in terms of what should go first

>>Disciples (and maybe a way to have some of his power without all the strings attached)
>>The Entity and anything he may know about it, including ways to possibly remove it or things it may inhibit.
>>Boar Tusk
>>Seige Fluff empowering him
>>Other possible ways we might give him some power.
>>Have him take a look at our Guantlet to see if it may turn harmful towards us. Don't fully trust The Stooges.
>>Have him take a look at Profectus's arm and the Spirit attached to it.
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>>40358330
Ditch the glove imo, its just a tool, a crutch. We wont git gud at earth from using it.
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>>40358362
It would still help as a meditative booster for the insights.
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>>40358362
We get gud at earth on our own and then put them together and shit on everybody with it.
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>>40358171
I like kitty's realm. It's really quite pleasant.

We bro'd it up with the right spirit.
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>>40358083
>>40358112
>Mik is 80%, has a son
>Sees his son has the potential to be a powerful vatis
>"Son, you're going to be GM in metal magic or so help me god I will set your older brother on you. You WILL have an unbreakable will and impenetrable mind."
>"Fuck you dad I do what I want"
>Learns only physical magic
>Never uses magic for anything but body reinforcement
>Beats the shit out of people with metal arms and shit.
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>>40358407
>>"Son, you're going to be GM in metal magic or so help me god I will set your older brother on you
>you will never have a dragon for a brother
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For the record, the scythe was destroyed when the spirit died. The materials to make the scythe and the enchantment on the scythe were both made by the Mirror Faced spirit. Thus, it was destroyed when he died.

However, the tusk survived. The boar and feline spirits were minor land spirits enslaved by the Mirror Spirit to his will. Since the boar survived (though the feline didn't) the tusk persist.
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>>40358477
aww yiss
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Oh, and writing for
>Call out to the cat spirit
>Explore a bit.
>Take off the gauntlet/vambrace/rerebrace
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>>40358447
Why live?
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>>40358477

So spirits can enslave other spirits.
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>>40358477
>the scythe was destroyed when the spirit died
RIP
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>>40358488
time for carving boar tusk into a full bore tusk cannon. Or having it mounted on the wall and help with enchanting shit.
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>>40358330
>Seige
>Guantlet
Come on
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>>40358447
For a second I thought he was talking about the half-human bastard Mik has fathered, but our adoptive dragon son makes way more sense.
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>>40358514
If we cut our arm off, can we give it to the same student we gave our arm to when we fucked with Demetrios' class?
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>>40358560
Yes
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>>40358514
We got a problem guys.
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>>40358560
>thought I'd give you a hand, kiddo
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>>40358590
welp. time to cut that arm off. And grow another one.
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Could we cut off our head and regrow our body before dying?
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>>40358590
Oh, don't worry about that. At least its not that nasty old ring that can bring us back from the dead when we do stupid stuff.

It's a really cool gauntlet, er, rerebrace.
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>>40358633
That was an option to meditate on the GM water mastery yeah.
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Uhhh. What? Separation of the head from the shoulders would mean the severing of the spinal column, which would instantly kill you.
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>>40358477
So Disciples get artifacts that scale with their spirits too?
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>>40358590
>>40358591
paid for a glove, gave it TLC and ended up with a full suit of armor.

why would jewmik see this as a problem
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>>40358590
so. it grows the more we chanel through it. Luckily, if we cant just pry it off, we know how to severe a limb and grow it back.
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>>40358645

That ring was power by the hearts of the innocent. You literally had to munch on some kid's heart to power it up.
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>>40358590
Let's try using earth magic to power down the "gauntlets" or see if they can fold into their original form or something before going balls to the wall and chop our arms off.
Guess they are like the Dragon Staff, make earth magic a breeze but a crutch item(with some sort of drawback) in the end.
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>>40358698
It's magic. Don't worry about it.
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>>40358729
Did we ever figure out why the dragon staff freaked out Zahak?
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>>40358729
you. you're a clever one. I like your thinking. No one's ever bothered finding the "off" switch before.
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>>40358750
Nope
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>>40358750
Dragons are extremely sensitive to the dead to their own kind I assume.
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>>40358514
So what do ya'all want to get as a reward? We've got a laundry list of accomplishments for that battle.
-We allowed for the anchor's creation
-We saved the cat's life from the boar
-We successfully defended the portal from assault
-We killed the majority of its summons with our big golem
-We neutralized the disciples and servants

I think that about covers it.
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>>40358814
don't forget we stumbled upon Mirrorface's realm and infiltrated it successfully.
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I like the Cat lot better now. Being comrades in combat really makes you think differently of people you previously dislike.
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>>40358814
>So what do ya'all want to get as a reward?
RUNES!
We'll be getting knowledge on Earth magic and possibly Fire magic for free too.
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>>40358879

No! Artifacts are better without none of the work that are runes.
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>>40358879
>Runes
>FreeShrugs.jpg
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>>40358814
Our own slice of spiritual property so that we can gain power from people worshiping us.

So long as it doesn't Genie us and shackle us in some fashion.
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>>40358814
how about traveler's visa in kitty's magical realm? Build a shrine, use it as access to Kitty's magical realm, use realm to portal through back to home base. It would save us a LOT of travel time if we get traveler's visa to kitty's realm.
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>>40358864
As long as you remember that spirits are dicks most of the time.
It'd be fun though to have a means to reach him everytime we stumble into a spirit realm.
>IT'S INVASION TIME!
>No Mik, NO!
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>>40358924

That's ridiculous.
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>>40358814
I want to make a kitty baby with him using part of our soul so that Zahak has a little sister.

Then we can work with Fulvia on making her a body to live in with a Vys generator so that she can survive without worship.
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You reach up a hand to run your fingers through your hair, but are surprised to find that what had once been nothing more than a gauntlet has grown to cover your entire arm. It ends roughly where your arm meets your shoulder, encasing the whole of your arm in thick stone articulated at the joints. It doesn't hurt, it doesn't feel like it's fused with your flesh, nor is it particularly heavy. You didn't even notice it for a while.

You try to tug it off, and push it off, but it won't budge. However, when you start to think deeply about just how you're going to remove this armor it pops open, some hidden seam cracking apart and allowing you to slide off the sleeve, which is still made of that strange leather-like substance which the gauntlet was initially made of. It's still lined with silk too, all the way up. Quite comfortable really.

You're not wholly sure what to do with it, now that it's off. It doesn't exactly fit neatly inside the bag that Sehzade made for you. A miracle you haven't lost it somewhere along the way. You manage to shove it in such that it won't fall out every time you try to walk, but it still dangles limply from your bag. It looks like you're carrying around someone's severed arm.

Regardless you start to wander the halls, heading towards the long hall the arched passage leads into. You pause at one of the windows and try to peer through the glass, but you can't see anything on the other side. It's just blinding light. Before long your eyes start to ache so you look away, continuing towards the set of large double doors at the end of the hall.

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>>40358935
That would be amazing.
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Halfway through you raise your voice, calling out to the Cat spirit. “Mahana! Can you hear me? We need to discuss my payment!” Unfortunately you don't get an answer. If he's left you to wander his halls for an eternity you're going to be irritated, to say the least.

When you reach the double doors, the only thing you've seen so far not made of marble or glass, you push your shoulders into them. They swing open with unexpected ease, leading you to stumble into some sort of opulent throne room. A short stairwell leads up to a long carpet flanked on either side by four statues. The cat sits on a raised platform which glows blue, his wounds slowly knitting themselves closed as skin grows over them gaping holes. He sits, holding up his head regally with his mane flared out around his head.

His voice thunders through your mind as you enter. {You were surprisingly competent.} You suppose you should take that as a complement. {No more than a handful of his minions managed to breach my realm, far too few to make any sort of difference. More than that you faced two disciples and came out the victor each time.}

He inclines his head in your direction only slightly. {The realm you've captured for me is a rich one, and seems a fertile recruiting ground for followers. I thank you, Mikhael, and I owe you a debt of gratitude.}

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>>40358924
That's not how that works
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You do your best to maintain a starkly neutral expression but you can't help but smirk. {It was a pleasure to assist you, Mahana. I must say I much prefer your aesthetic sensibilities to that of the other spirit. Volcanoes, red skies, lava. All very played out, don't you agree?}

A rumbling purr seems to fill the room. {Indeed. Such styles faded from popularity centuries ago. I suppose I should expect as much from a glorified squatter, to rob his predecessors of their style rather than creating their own.}

>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
>Ask him if he might create an artifact for you to use.
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Write-in
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>>40358996
>>40358330
Let's ask these. Lots of back and forth, opportunities for both us and him.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.

but don't push the rune thing too hard, dudes most likely tired.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
"That was really cool. Let's do something like that again some time."
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward

Play it cool guys, lets bro it out first.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask him if he might create an artifact for you to use.

Or what else is in his realm of power to gift? I'd welcome some way to gain insight in some element faster or something.
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>>40358996
Can we ask him all the things they all seem really good
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask if you can get a traveler's visa to his realm so you can use it as a quick gateway back to your home.
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>>40359026
You can indeed do all of the above.
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>>40358996
>>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>>Ask him if he might create an artifact for you to use.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
Plus
>>40358330
And >>40358935
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>>40358996
>>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
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>>40358996
>>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
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>>40359020

I mean Bro it up first.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask if you can get a traveler's visa to his realm so you can use it as a quick gateway back to your home.
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>>40358953
>>40358972
I really like the cats style.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what becoming a disciple entails, its drawbacks and benefits.
>Ask him if he might create an artifact for you to use.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
> Get more runes for enchanting so that we can do >>40358950
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
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>>40358996
Seconding >>40359040
Plus
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him for a catalog of new runes to play with.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
We should also ask about meditation techniques.
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>>40359030
Then let us do all of the things!
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.

We need info first, before we can file the best request possible.
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>>40358996
>>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
First small talk about these and asking about the stuff the other anon collected, especially Siege and lore about disciples. Then more questions.
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>>40358996
>Ask him what having an expanded realm means for him.
>Ask him what his plans are going forward.
>Ask him if he might create an artifact for you to use.
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Really? You're going to settle for some runes or an artifact after what we've just been through and what he just got?
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>>40359056
>>Ask if you can get a traveler's visa to his realm so you can use it as a quick gateway back to your home.
doubly so if it looks awesome on the other side
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>>40358996
Seconding >>40359040
>>40359078
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So it sounds like, generally
>Ask ALL THE THINGS
Wins out. Since >>40358330 is basically "all the things".
Writin'
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>>40359085
OH Yes, yes, yes! Let us proceed and do ALL the things posthaste!
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>>40359129
With all of these requests, we're gonna need to ready our dice and Mik's tongue for the haggles challenge.
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>>40359146
So we're voting on a reward tomorrow?
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>>40359146
Do ya'all ever feel bad about making Soma write all the things?
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>>40358477
Does that mean that Cat Bro now owns Boar Spirit?
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>>40359177
Likely.
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>>40359178
No.
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>>40359178
a little bit. but overall...NO REGRETS
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>>40359186
Yup.
Debating whether I should start having a piglet wander around your estate.
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>>40359178
not even a little
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>>40359206
PLS.
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>>40359206
Yes.
All of the yes.
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>>40359206
YES
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>>40359206
please do it that would be neat
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>>40359206
poor piglet. Zahak will be chasing it around the estate thinking it'll be food.
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ask him all of this

>>Disciples (and maybe a way to have some of his power without all the strings attached)
>>The Entity and anything he may know about it, including ways to possibly remove it or things it may inhibit.
>>Boar Tusk
>>Seige Fluff empowering him
>>Other possible ways we might give him some power.
>>Have him take a look at our Guantlet to see if it may turn harmful towards us. Don't fully trust The Stooges.
>>Have him take a look at Profectus's arm and the Spirit attached to it.
Long discussion
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>>40359206
>start a menagerie in the house to take care of each of the avatars of the spirits that we conquer with Mahana for our entire life.
>Giant living trophy room
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>>40359206
Yes.
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>>40359206
I don't think Mahana will appreciate it when Zahak eats his slave.
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>>40359242
>going for a stroll around our estate in the little down time we have
>before we round the corner in one of the halls a little piglet comes screaming around the corner full tilt
>several seconds later a Zahak bigger than you are rips around the corner after it, claws slipping on the floor and bodily slamming into you
>spend the next few minutes healing broken bones and fixing the floor and walls
such is life as magik mik
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>>40359348
The thing is a Spirit, it'll be about as easy to easy at the cat was before we powered him up.
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>>40359384
easy to eat
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I'm gonna say thanks again to the anon who suggested building the shrine.
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>>40359352

> Thinking the piglet won't spaz out into a giant boar spiritually
>Only Vatis and magic creatures like Zahak can see it's spirit form
>Zahak gets chased around by giant boar spirit, looks like a piglet to everyone else.
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This is gonna be a long ass update.

>>40359206
Suggest we either ask for or make a chair to sit in while we talk with him. I'd prefer it be a discussion rather than us just having to stand while we speak to it.
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>>40359420
>Passerby takes a walk.
>Passing a room, he sees Zahak huddled in the corner looking scared.
>Looks where Zahak is looking
>sees piglet.
>how can a dragon that big be scared of a piglet?
>Not seeing piglet's true form is a giant boar bigger than Zahak.
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>>40359352
>>40359420
>>40359467
I immediately thought of those little pigs from DS2.
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>>40359443
Yeah, maybe build some rapport, mend some bridges and shit. We've proven competent enough and he's probably seeing more progress in this last week than he has since he first got sat in the catacombs.
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And thus begins the pigbro hype
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>>40359500
Dragon son and catbro is enough for me, thanks.
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>>40359500
All hail the mighty pigbro!

PIGBRO! PIGBRO! PIGBRO!
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>>40359500
pigbro best girl
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>Entertaining guests
>Little piglet runs pass the hallways behind us being chase by Zahak
>Casually mention having a few pets
>Something break in another room and a cat is hear hissing loudly
>Zahak and the piglet run back the same hallway being chase by the cat
>Offer more tea to our guests
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>>40359639
WELCOME TO MAGIK MIK'S HOUSE OF MADNESS

THERE IS NO ESCAPE
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>>40359500
You mean

> Adorable Piglet Daughter

Oh, oh yes. It's a girl now. This is a thing. We have a daughter to play with our son.

> Catbro is confused as fuck as to why we insist on treating genderless spirit pig this way.
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>>40359688
Catbro will come to love our little misfit family.

In time.
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>>40359418
Worked out alot better than how I initially though it would. Same thing for the people who decide we should finally check out the green souls.
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>>40359772
Feel like we are going to wake up with all the people in the courtyard dead.
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>>40359688
It had tusks. I think that is mostly a male pig thing. But then again Spirit so who knows.
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>>40359782
Probably.
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>>40359639
Yes. Crazy vatis shit but with out too much of the lolrandum of actually being high on the crazy scale.
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>>40359795
>> Catbro is confused as fuck as to why we insist on treating genderless spirit pig this way.
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>>40359782
Thats fine. I think all of them were likely the fire sword weilding Servants we ganked any way.
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>>40359795
And we broke the tusks. Now it's a girl.
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>>40359876
flawless logic
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>>40359897
If you want flawless logic we could just nutter him and make him a she. Come on we do plastic surgery already.
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hahaha WHAT
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>>40359913
I'm starting to question your knowledge of biology.
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>>40359913
>TG Boar-Chan
I want off Anons wild ride.
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>>40359913
we should name it caitlyn
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>>40359942
I think the ride is quite a boar.
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>>40359942
It never ends, Anon, it never ends.

>>40359913

Hey, we aren't against trans spirits here. Belt of Gender reassignment.
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>>40359959
I see what you did there.
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>>40359959
Bruce sounds better for a boar.

both start with B. you can't find a more better reason than that
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>>40360028
Belle
Because he's a girl now
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>>40360061
Teasing spirits is my fetish.
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RIP Soma
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>>40360218
The load was too much.
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>>40360218
We chose like 20 options, it was pretty clear that this post was going to take a long time.
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>>40360236
>>40360248
The typing cramp is what killed him
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>>40360248
SOON

>1/12
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>>40360271
>Anonymous
Is that you Soma?
or is it a spoopy skellymen?
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>>40360281
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>I come back 45 minutes later and still no post
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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>>40360319
Hmmm, would Water magic be the one that lets you manipulate bones? Since they are biological things and all, but then they are sorta rock.like a bit.
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We're totally gonna fuck with the Boar Spirit cause we're using his tusk to enchant now huh?
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You have dozens of questions to ask the Cat, but you have to prioritize. He's wounded, and likely exhausted after his battle with the spirit. You'll take things slow at first so as not to annoy him. Especially after what you just saw him do. {So tell me,} You begin, glancing around the room for some sort of chair. One forms itself from the marble not far from the platform on which Mahana has stretched himself. You take a seat gratefully. {What does this mean for you? Having an expanded realm, I mean.}

Mahana's voice booms through your mind with its usual intensity. {All the vassals of the spirit who once ruled this land have reverted to my control. At the moment, that means that the boar you sent plunging into the volcano is my vassal. I believe I will give him control over the outskirts of my new fief, allowing him to make it into a realm all his own but ultimately subservient to my own. I will retain the city for myself.}

This close you can get a better look at Mahana's wounds. He appears hollow on the inside, as you can see straight through a cut in his side to the flesh on the other side. He has neither blood nor organs. It's really quite strange. {As for what it means to own control a spiritual region, it allows a spirit the exclusive rights to recruit followers from among the mortals dwelling there. Be they disciples, casual worshipers, or servants. You mortals are marvelous little creatures. Your bodies cannot sustain a truly divine core but what little divinity you have attempts to propagate itself. The excess usually degrades into byproducts, but a spirit is able to siphon off some of that excess to add to their own power. The power gained increases rapidly as one gains more followers, making it preferable to tapping sources of power.}
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The Cat's five slitted yellow eyes stare at you with an uncomfortable intensity, its claws flexing. {I would impart upon you a shard of my divine essence. A very small shard, so as to avoid consuming your soul entirety. After all, you can only recruit for me as a Disciple. Were you a servant, you would lack the will necessary for independent action. You shall feel yourself stronger, magically, as there will be far more excess byproducts generated by your core. I will in turn feed on this excess, but even after I have taken my share you will still be more powerful than you are now.}

You're not wholly sure you like the idea of the cat feeding on you, but being more powerful certainly sounds quite nice. {In exchange for your service to me, I will grant you artifacts crafted by my own hand. Far beyond anything save the most skilled of mortals could be expected to make. Gather followers in my stead, erect shrines in places of great magical power, and perform task for me and I shall shower you with powerful gifts, both in the form of knowledge and in more material mediums.}

That sounds quite nice. Especially if he could create artifacts that didn't have some sort of price or drawback. All of the artifacts the Three, as you've heard them referred to, always have some sort of catch. Even this gauntlet, or what was once a gauntlet. {Additionally, I can create allies for you to take advantage of. Servants I create will fall under your control, and my followers will be compelled to do as you command, though not bound to follower your orders.}
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>>40360341
earth, because of calcium
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An loyal army does sound quite nice, or just a few key officials placed in important offices under your sway. Still, he hasn't really told you much about what you're expected to do in return. He's hinted at it, but only in passing. {Neither gathering followers nor building shrines seems particularly laborious, but what of these task? Would my life not be bound to your own, to end when yours ends?}

Mahana rest his head on his forepaws, four of his five eyes sliding closed. He stares at you with only the eye which rest in the center of his forehead. {The task would vary wildly, depending on circumstance. I might ask you to assassinate the agent of another spirit if they are attempting to infiltrate my realm. I may ask that you bring certain powerful figures to me, so that I might bring them under my control. I might ask that you go somewhere that I cannot, or initiate an invasion of another spirit's realm as you did today. As for your life being bound to mine, I cannot deny it. Just as your power would grow with mine, so would it wane. If I die, you will be extinguished. However, so long as I live you will not perish easily. I shall be able to sustain your life, to draw it out indefinitely. Baring certain measures being taken, as you saw when you killed my rival's disciple.}

You wonder why the Varistha didn't simply become the disciple of that spirit which dwelled within the crystal, if spirits are capable of extending the lives of their disciples? Regardless, you've more questions. {Did that boar tusk manage to survive the destruction of that other spirit's realm?}

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>>40360360
>>40360348
Did we miss a question between these two posts? They don make much sense
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There's a loud thud as a tusk longer than you are tall slams into the ground next to you. It's hollow inside, but the shell is really quite thick. The cat spirit's voice filters passively through your thoughts. {It did, but tell me Mikhael. Surely that tusk, a glorified souvenir, is not all you desire as your reward...}

>EEEEND THREAD
>Negotiations next time, tired as fuck
>Next time probably friday.

>>40360379
Shit, yeah I did. Lemme rephrase that.
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>>40360348
>Your bodies cannot sustain a truly divine core but what little divinity you have attempts to propagate itself.
So the only thing stopping us from true immorality is our body? Interesting...
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>>40360396
Neato. Thanks for running Soma.
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Shit, hang on.
I fucked up big time.
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>>40360402
Water+Metal magic could help us resist dying, with the help of the Stooges.
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This close you can get a better look at Mahana's wounds. He appears hollow on the inside, as you can see straight through a cut in his side to the flesh on the other side. He has neither blood nor organs. It's really quite strange. {As for what it means to own control a spiritual region, it allows a spirit the exclusive rights to recruit followers from among the mortals dwelling there. Be they disciples, casual worshipers, or servants. You mortals are marvelous little creatures. Your bodies cannot sustain a truly divine core but what little divinity you have attempts to propagate itself. The excess usually degrades into byproducts, but a spirit is able to siphon off some of that excess to add to their own power. The power gained increases rapidly as one gains more followers, making it preferable to tapping sources of power.}

{This fief also has a few unique, persistent features which have survived the transition of power. The palace of a spirit old enough to rival myself in age. It is dead, a rotting corpse, but a rotting corpse which still houses unimaginable power. If I can, I intend to tap into that reserve and make it my own. A risky maneuver, but I believe myself competent enough to carry out such a process safely.}

Why would absorbing the power of a dead spirit entail some sort of process? Well, whatever. You had other questions to ask. {So what are your plans going forward? I take it you'll be recruiting, but what exactly does recruiting involve? I had some ideas, you see. To help you expand your power. I've created this game, you see, and I was thinking I could release some sort of module dedicated to these wars waged between spirits. I was thinking of including you, as the leader of a faction. Players would be encouraged to jokingly worship the 'god' of their faction, of which they would play the role of vassals. Thus, when the actual god of their faction came to them they'd be more inclined to accept.}
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>>40360396
The cat rolls to seduce
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The Cat begins to purr loudly, the sound filling the room. {Oooh, I quite like the sound of that. Get them used to the idea of paying me homage. Perhaps trick them into becoming my followers, allowing me to draw from their excess. Disingenuous, but so am I.} His thoughts take on a coy tone. {You know, if you seek to aid me in recruiting followers you may as well become my disciple. A disciple does little else, when times are peaceful. As they are now. From what I understand many spirits, many ancient spirits, have contented themselves to seclusion. Some have passed on, as the original ruler of this fief has. Others have merely withdrawn from the realm of politics.}

You wonder why on Earth that might be? You suppose the world is generally less magical than it once was, without two great unified Empires supporting the education of Vatis, but you don't see why that would have anything to do with spirits. {What exactly does becoming a disciple require? What would be expected of me, and what could I expect of you?}

The Cat's five slitted yellow eyes stare at you with an uncomfortable intensity, its claws flexing. {I would impart upon you a shard of my divine essence. A very small shard, so as to avoid consuming your soul entirety. After all, you can only recruit for me as a Disciple. Were you a servant, you would lack the will necessary for independent action. You shall feel yourself stronger, magically, as there will be far more excess byproducts generated by your core. I will in turn feed on this excess, but even after I have taken my share you will still be more powerful than you are now.}

These post go between >>40360348 and >>40360360.
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>>40360442
>>40360419
Well before we ever start negotiating we have to mention The Entity.
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>>40360408
>>40360442
>>40360419
Soma pls. y u do dis? so hard to read nao cuz out of order.
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>>40360469
also ask for spirit traveler's visa for quick portal access to home through kitty's magical realm.
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I like the power up idea but, lets be honest we are doing good by our selves with power and I do not like the idea of our lives being tied to another beings. So that they die we die. So my vote will probably be against unless we can some how fix that
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>>40360494
Same Guy here.

Forgot to point out we technically already live for a decent amount.
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>>40360494
We do well and power him up and we don't have to worry about it do we. We are already doing things that a disciple would be doing we just are getting less than we could be out of it.
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>>40360494
Plus we're already biologically immortal.
>>40360512
If by a decent amount you mean forever, then yes.
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>>40360494
Eh, my biggest complaint is these tasks. I don't mind helping the guy out and all, but i want my freedom, I don't want him botching at us when we're in the heart of Elaudia. We plan on exploring the world and if he's not okay with that then oh well.

>>40360494
>>40360512
If we die out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere this guy will be able to bring us back.
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>>40360534
This.

The offer is tempting, but I'm worried about the loss of freedom. We still have much to do with our companions.
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>>40360442
>A disciple does little else, when times are peaceful. As they are now.
This is what i don't like. I wanna be able to do our own shit. We have plans, quests, exploring, exploiting. Tons of shit to do.
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>>40360442
The most important thing in my opinion is not to become subservient, be it to this spirit or anyone else. Don’t give up your own freedom for a slightly bigger immediate scrap of power.

Whatever we do, I want to stay on roughly the same level of negotiation with the spirit, not have to hope for it to be nice lest it kills you with a thought.

There’s a reason Varvar didn’t turn into a disciple and why Mikhael looked down on the disciples of this spirit: They are just glorified servants and walking snacks. The offer is not tempting in the least, we would permanently gimp our negotiation position.
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>>40360534
Freedom issue is there.

Were did it say he could bring us back? Dont remember reading that.
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>>40360556
By that I meant more "a disciple is expected to do little else". Not that "a disciple is solely a recruiting officer". If you're not available, Mahana can recruit himself. Besides that he'll start gathering other disciples, servants, and followers soon to expand his power.
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>>40360560
>The most important thing in my opinion is not to become subservient
Especially since it's in Mik's character to hate being subservient to people, it's canon.
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>>40360574
I am seeing fewer and fewer draw backs to being a disciple...
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>>40360565
>However, so long as I live you will not perish easily. I shall be able to sustain your life, to draw it out indefinitely. Baring certain measures being taken, as you saw when you killed my rival's disciple
Seems to imply special measures are needed to kill us.
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>>40360556
Retard.
He means that apart from the stuff he said previously, we'll be able to do whatever we want.
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>>40360574
WHATS OUR RELATIONSHIP RATING WITH THE CAT NOW
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>>40360553
true. we have books to read, waifu wars to wage, haggling for jewing, and shenanigans to do to entertain the stooges.
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>>40360594
Mai Husbando <---
True Friend
Buddy
Acquaintance
Stranger
Annoyance
Enemy
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>>40360592
Not him, but don't especially like the idea of our life being so easily in the spirits hands.
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>>40360574
Can you be sure to include these thoughts mention here when next talking to the cat spirit? They're all concerns Mik would have. Not losing Freedom, not being subservient, etc, etc.

Bring up that we plan on traveling the world and won't be around to be at his beck and call all the time.
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>>40360607
>Mai Husbando
>implying that catbro is actually a girl.
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>>40360607
Okay, so I'd put us somewhere between acquaintance and buddy.
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>>40360608
It's symbiotic we help him and make him stronger and he does the same for us
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>>40360624
You can have gay husbandos.
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>>40360607
>>40360574
Will he be able to order us to do what he wants? Or will we retain our free will?
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>>40360624
Wait. What if it actually was? That'd be the biggest laugh in the entire quest.
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>>40360636
And what kind of negative repurcussions will this have when we deal with other spirits?
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>>40360628
Between buddy and true friend after what we just did for him.
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>>40360607
When did we just from Annoyance? Can you list the specific instances and leaps we made? Like, how did being cool about the Vault influence our relationship?
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>>40360636
Certain situations, like during an invasion of his realm, you'll be obligated to follow his orders. He can also attempt to assert his will over the shard of divinity he grants you to get you to do what he wants, but that will be a test against your willpower and Mik has some pretty big bonuses.

It will be in your best interest to work to increase the cat's standing though. The Disciple relationship is basically a spirit exerting soft power over a mortal, where as the Servant is a spirit exerting total power over a mortal.
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>>40360652
I don't know if I'd move it up that fast when dealing with spirits.
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>>40360607
Huh. Guy might really be a big softie if all it takes to get him to waifu us is launching an invasion into a hostile spirits realm of our own volition and and beat the snot out of 2 disciples and a few hundred mooks.
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>>40360653
It's not a real scale, Anon.
I don't have relationship levels for characters.
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>>40360653
>Stranger when we walked in
>Aquaintance when we bought the house from him
>Buddy when we made the deal at the vault
>Approaching True Friend now that we did this for him
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>>40360678
Oh...
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>>40360678
Would he sit in our lap and let us pet him? That's all I need to know.
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>>40360693
Yes.
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>>40360670
he was a cat stuck in a house for centuries both metaphysically and literally. His fiefdom before meeting Mik was just the estate. Now it's the estate and the territory once owned by Mirror face. He's still pretty cranky. if you'd ask me.
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I too will echo the sentiment that I would not like to be a disciple. There is simply no way becoming one will be desirable; it is never worth it to be bound to someone else's will.

I like our current arrangement. The way this whole thing with this spirit went was cool. 10/10 would create an Anchor again. I like the cat, he seems like a cool guy, and I would love to work with him more closely, but I think all our interactions should involve a fair exchange, like building a shrine for knowledge, or no exchange at all, like the great spirit equivalent of hanging with bros.
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>>40360594
Mahana's strong will that allowed him to accept and overcome his weakness has awakened his heart's true power...
Mahana has been reborn...!
Freaky Giant Cat Thing is now Extra Freaky Giant Cat Thing!
Raaaawwwrrr
You can sense Mahana's intense love...
You feel a tight bond between you and Mahana...
Rank Up!! Max!
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I want to point out if we are to become anyone's disciples it should be Ricky.
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>>40360670
He's been trapped beneath the Estate for thousands and thousands of years. After being weak and trapped this probably feels AMAZING for him,
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>>40360698
Could we sit in his lap and have him pet us?
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>>40360698
Shit nigga, really?

This is awesome, how many people could say they had a powerful as fuck spirit take a seat on their knee for pets?
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>>40360706
>working for the void being(not a spirit even) that is our housekeeper
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>>40360708
Now that you mention it, he probably loves us for what we've done.
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Will catbro treat us special even after he gets other disciples?
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>>40360702
All of our interactions would still be that way. Only now parts of our "rewards" is magical power. We won't be bound to his will since Mik can pretty easily resist it and the only time we'll be "forced" to help him out it if his realm gets invaded which seems very unlikely.
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>>40360702
Should still be allowed to put him in lap and pet him.

My brother just came up with a great idea. Having the cat as a familiar since we are essentially a mage.
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>>40360748
You'll be his first, Anon~
But yeah, you will. Other disciples will look up to you as you'll be the most powerful. Usually a pretty strict hierarchy based on seniority forms.
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>>40360702
We aren't bound to his will he can attempt to influence us but we can resist we can still do our own thing he will just make us more powerful and give us artifacts. We would have to do the occasional mission for him or go fuck up other spirits dudes but that just makes him stronger which makes us stronger
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>>40360765
Neato.
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>>40360759
BQ doesn't quite work like that.
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>>40360771
and the best thing is that his home base is the estate we own.
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>>40360755
But still if he dies we die.

Unless ricky can somehow eat the divine essence in our soul as he is dieing.
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If he gives us a piece of his divine core we might be able to find a way to eat it and become a god
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>people live longer when they are disciples
>catbro has been with the samjans for a long long time
>people are stronk as fuck as disciples
>mysterious person that died and got stuck in a book phylactery
Is that guy the thousand year emperor?
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So, we could team up with catnigga and become the most feared disciple known in the realm of spirits, endlessly powering him and by extension ourselves up.
Yeah?
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>>40360796
Indeed and we may be able to travel through his domain to travel quickly between cities.
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Above all i think that he should give us pretty free reign on increasing his power. We're setting up the shrines and we have our ideas on Seige. And I'm sure we'll come up with plenty of other ideas
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>>40360787
we are an incredibly advanced mage. Whos to say we wouldn't start the trend of attempting to get mystical beings as familiars.
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>>40360800
do our job well and it won't be a problem
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>>40360812
>>40360765
Need to bring up the idea of traveling between shrines/his ream or whatever. May not be possible but need to mention it. Being able to go from Our Estate to Hayes Workshop would be useful as fuck.
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>>40360765
Do senior disciples get more and more free reign? Because if mik is still doing bitch work around the clock, especially after single handily beating two disciples, I would be mad as fuck
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>>40360765
If we become his disciple, will he deal with/fix our sanity problems if we need him to?
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Now that we're getting on a more friendly level with the cat, he should be less inclined to try to screw us over in any way now.
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>>40360831
We can't protect him if a Child decides that he wants him dead.
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>>40360839
and setting up shrines would be equivalent to setting up way points and fast travel locations.
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>>40360839
01:11 Soma_QM You can traverse the spirit's realm, so sort of fast travel to any point in the world which falls under his dominion.
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>>40360831
If we get stuck doing our own shit somewhere, and then cat guy gets attacked we can't help him. Like becoming his disciple makes it to at best we get a power up but end up having a chink in our armor that can be exploited even unknowingly. If we are fighting somewhere and he gets attacked his most powerful asset cant help him. Or worse he drags us there and its our demise because we were already weakened from earlier shit.
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>>40360822
I wouldn't call Mik an "incredibly advanced mage"
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>>40360847
We have an amulet that does that passively already.
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>>40360868
Because you know we don't have ways of powering back up or anyhting
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>>40360863
>>40360862
But do Shrines count as "his domain" or would it just be between our Estate and Anthus?
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>>40360863
Makes errands in anthus a breeze, and when we go back home we can scare everyone.
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>>40360886
SOLD

MAKE US YOUR DISCIPLE
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>>40360880
Shitty fag noble confirmed.
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>>40360880
is being a disciple necessary for us to get kitty-bro Fast-travel visa ? or can we haggle that reward from him?
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>>40360880
That looks absolutely normal, can't see any obvious spirit shit.
>>40360899
Well, that's stranger, looks like some tattoos I guess, and the eye is a bit weird.
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>>40360900
Shush we still have info to gather. Talks to have.

We didn't even get through half of the list of subjects we wanted to bring up to him.
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>>40360899
>>40360880
We need to bring up the topic of The Entity to him. I'm sure it'll affect some shit.
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>>40360924
Do we know who he pissed off to get into such a shit position despite his power?
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>>40360900
boi, get yourself a better lawyer, read the fine print. And read the fine print within the fine print. Don't you dare think about signing your name on that spirit contract until you completely understand both benefits and consequences of the long and short term.
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>>40360880
>>40360899
I'm posting these because I forgot to list one of the drawbacks and one of the benefits.

>Benefit
You'll be able to travel rapidly between points within the Cat Spirit's realm. Not instantly, you'll have to pass through the spirit realm. Which means you'll need to enter the spirit realm through a shrine to the cat spirit, and then you'll need to traverse the area within. Space works differently in the cat spirit's realm though, so you'll make way better time.

>Drawback
You'll take on certain elements of the spirit in question. Pallid skin, weird eyes, patches of scaly skin, unnatural hair colors, that sort of thing. In the spirit realm you'll look downright strange, as the two disciples did in the spirit realm.
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>>40360948
It probably involved the entire empire being blown to hell
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>>40360946
Yeah he might not want to stick his spirit dick into Mik's HIV infested soulpussy.
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>>40360948
The Al-Hikars

Hence why we need the armor of the chieftain of the Al-Hikars to unlock the vault which contains the rest of him.
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>>40360954
>You'll take on certain elements of the spirit in question
So we'll turn into a furry?
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>>40360950
bruh it was a joke
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>>40360954
We're gonna need to ask him for some specifics on the physical changes.
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>>40360954
Well no cat eyes because mister kitty doesn't have those, so that leaves being a furry, I don't wanna be a disciple no more.
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>>40360954
Sounds like shit, Mik ain't some boytoy of any old spirit, only one he worships is the gods.
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>>40360969
Nothing nearly so extensive. You're not going to sprout a tail or cat ears all of a sudden. Weird facial markings and strange fukkin' eyes are about the worst you could get, because they'd be really obvious. Nor are you going to grow fur, the cat spirit doesn't have fur.
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>>40360968
Ah that's right, sorry, forgot that bit of lore. Hell I'd even forgotten about the whole Vault thing.
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>>40360987
The dude is part scaled. We could be like Zahak.

>>40360954
What Elements is Cat Bro affiliated with?
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>>40360954
So how badass would we look in the spirit realm?
Also, would any of the physical alterations in the real world provide any benefit?
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>>40360987
Kitty has 5 eyes, anon
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>>40360989
Man it sounds good to me. Magic, Magic stuff, quests. All stuff I like
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>>40360994
Define weird markings, like whisker lines or tribal tattoos?
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>>40361000
>We could be like Zahak.
Oh, our little fire breathing hellspawn would be so ecstatic.
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>>40361013
See >>40360899
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>>40360954
so the fast travel visa is Exclusive to disciples? I thought it was possible to haggle for that....
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>>40360954
So is that a no on fast travel as a potential reward while not accepting the disciple offer?
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>>40360954
I'd rather be a friend than a disciple.

Like with Ricki
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>>40361002
No benefit. I would roll for what you get, so you might get something incredibly obvious or something nobody is ever going to see.

>>40361030
>>40361032
Being able to travel through his realm does not necessarily necessitate being a disciple.
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>>40361022
So it would just look like you got a tattoo. And I doubt strange eyes would draw pitchfork carrying peasants in a world where vatis exist
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>>40361036
But Ricky doesn't give us magical power and treasure with no draw backs.
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>>40361048
some kind of sunglasses would also easily solve the problem
or we could just make up a crazy story
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>>40361036
Ricky gives us nothing he just lives in our cloak
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>>40361059
what was the drawback for being ricky's friend? I never caught on what was the catch to the void cloak.
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>>40361073
Void corruption
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>>40361067
I STOLE EM FROM A DRAGON!
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>>40361048
scales would be pretty gross, hopefully we don't get something like that
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So main points of contention we need to bring up to him seem to be maintaining our freedom (both in completing our own affairs and how we aid him), dying when he dies, making sure he never tries to assert his will on us.
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>>40361059
>Have to do tasks for a guy
>Die if he dies
>His soul all up in our soul's business
>Minor weird markings on us
>Constantly owe him allegiance, rather than trading services for knowledge

>no draw backs
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>>40361047
>>40361030
There you go. WE SHALL HAGGLE
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>>40361073
We had to kill the Shah.
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>>40361078
Hell it's Mik, I'd believe it.
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>>40360876
Yeah we are pretty middling in the larger scheme of things if that. Shit that bitch ass spirit Mahana ganked had a double GM, single master, single expert as a disciple after all.
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>>40360880
Gri... Griffisu-sama!?!?
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>>40361071
He also makes an excellent interrogator, surgeon, and an excellent way to smuggle our criminal friend to our dimension.
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>>40361089
I meant the treasure has no draw backs. But we Do tasks for everyone. WE don't let him die. We like weird shit. We can disobey him with a roll
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>>40361089
>get loads of powers for it
>he's a spirit that'll be hard
>so?
>so?
>Eh.
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>>40361047
YISS......TIME TO JEW.
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>>40361102
It seemed like a drawback at the time, but it really wasn't at all. Even if you consider the hassle (and obviously the murder too) as a drawback, we also gained knowledge about souls and that traitor woman as a side effect. Obviously we also got unbanished too.
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>>40361115
Are you guys thinking what'll happen when this happens?
We disobey the spirit that gave us a part of himself.
What do you think the spirit would do?
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>>40361089
The tasks will probably be few and far between seeing as how we're going to off in the middle of nowhere for quite a while.

And trades will still be going on, only they'll just be more of exchanges. We help him he give's us a cool artifact or more power or what have you.

Only real draw back is the die when he dies.
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>>40361090
Or we could get it for free with disciple, and haggle for even more?
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>>40361126
What do you think he will order us to do that is so bad?
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>>40360703
kek.
Love the SMT/Persona series.
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>>40361110
That we murdalized
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>>40361126
Nothing see>>40360664
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>>40361126
Nothing because we haggled our way out of the task.
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>>40361133

Kill our son?

Kill our companions?

Kill innocents?

Not haggle?

or even

Give our money to charity
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>>40361047
Are there any such marks that wouldn't be obvious during sex?
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>>40361155
Why would he do any of that? It gives him nothing and will make us hate him.
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>>40361155
He will do none of the above.
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>>40361155
The cat isn't an asshole anon.
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>>40361125
Irrelevant, we are obliged to fulfill such assassination contracts from Void Entites that tell us to do it.
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>>40360804
Huh. Interesting. Cat bro seems quite fond of the dude as well which is part of why I kinda dig Mahana. Seems like he is pretty cool as far as spirits go.
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>>40361172
> Cat

> Not an asshole

Hrrrrrmmmmmm, I mean, he's been pretty shift so far and almost fucked us up good one time, but I guess everyone is ignoring that these days.

Maybe I just don't want to be bound to a spirit dude.
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>>40361174
We won't need to worry about Void assholes if we Disciple and get the protection of the cat.
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>forgetting how stronk the first disciple was
>soma outright stated it was because his spirit was earth+fire
Imagine spirit boon+earth GM+gauntlet
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>>40361189
How so? Ricky made Cat shit his pants, why do you think the Void Ambassador that was in our dreams can't?
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>>40361184
OK, so your point is
>I DON'T WANT TO
Good chat anon.
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>>40361184
Because we called him our slave, if someone called mik their slave we would end their life.
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>>40361047
If Mirrorface was fire and earth what is Mahana?
Or is it still super secret?
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>>40361195
There was water in cat spirit realm, right? Hopefully we get some water buff
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>>40361216
Metal and Earth from the setting of his magical realm and the abilities that he displayed during the battle.
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>>40361216
Mahata is Earth, how is this not obvious? Possibly Metal as well. MAYBE Fire(because of his minions), though I doubt that.
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>>40361239
I was more questioning if that was all that he covered, he is supposed to be fairly high up the spirit hierarchy, iirc
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>>40361239
I mean even in his very very weakens state he beat a guy with the whole of anthus under his belt, he might have all the elements under his belt
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>>40361195
That sounds like taking shortcuts to me anon. You know what those lead to, don't you?

>>40361206
I like independence. I like having our thoughts and our soul belonging to ourselves. I like being able to just hop on a ship and fuck off to the edge of the world for a few decades. I like living life without some great big older brother looking over my shoulder, who I have to give lip service to for all of eternity. Ya'know what would make that impossible?
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>>40361264
It sounds like it leads to being strong as fuck nerd.
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>>40361211

Yeah, we have fuck up people for less.
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>>40361264
Are thought life is not are own, nor is are thoughts. We have an entity in are mind, and Void creatures that can just tell us to do shit. I kinda like the thought of being with a thing I understand.
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>>40361277
We're already strong as fuck. We're going to develop a goddamn dragon killing railgun and find the secret to Elaudian steel. We don't need a bit of edge at the cost of our independence. The disciple nerds only nicked us because we literally had no artifacts and they were loaded for all out war.
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>>4036129
Man fukk that extra thought.
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>>40361305
Our armors. I meant our armors. And possibly our cloak.
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>Wanting to bind ourselves to the goodwill of a single entity.
>Literally arguing "What’s the worst that could happen?" What’s the worst it would have us do?

>Wanting to give yet another powerful entity access to and power over our mind.
>Arguing that we are pretty good at fighting of influences, despite mental influences and growing idiocy aka madness being the single biggest threat to us right now AND longterm

>Wanting to bind ourselves as the currently only mortal sevant/recruiter of an entity that wants to aggressively expand its influence in the mortal plane.
>We wouldn’t have much to do and could still run around and do our own shit without any problem.

Seriously guys?
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>>40361305
One of them nearly killed us. And are you implying having more power isn't a good thing? Fuck off forever
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>>40361115
>>40361121
>>40361128
My problem with it is that we would promise to serve him indefinitely. What we get in exchange is his power, which is pretty good because it will increase as he gets stronger, but I think it isn't worth it because we will be able to get stronger on our own.

In my opinion it looks like:
Pros
>Immediate gain of power
>Constant gain of power based on spirit's power increase
>Automantically get cool perks like fast travel and servants

Cons:
>Indefinite promise of service (and the opportunity cost from any tasks we might end up performing)
>Restrictions based on our obligations (we already have a lot of these though, but they're theoretically finite. Once we get Elaudian steel and that gem, we could fuck off to the ends of the Earth if we wanted. We would be much less able to do that as a disciple.)
>Cat's got a direct line into our soul. Even if we can resist it it's not a good thing
>Beholden to someone else's will

I think we can gain power on our own, and have adventures during times where being a disciple would mean we would have responsibilities instead. We can still gain a lot of cool perks (like fast travel, maybe) by helping the cat out like we're already doing, without becoming a disciple.
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>>40361329
He got in one good hit that we healed in one round. We put him into the ground like a chump, not even using our magic a moment later. If we had our Hiacan armor? Wouldn't even be a fight. Not worth a soul for.
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>>40361329
A big part of the difficulty was that we didn't have ANY of our usual gear, no weapons, no armor, nothing
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>>40361325
So
>you guys want to do thing
>waaaaaah
No anon, fuck off, catbro won't be making us kill our friends and family, he won't be using us like a meat puppet, he won't be doing whatever the fuck has gotten your panties in a twist.
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>>40361335
Soma said that fast travel wasn't linked to being a disciple; just being cool in the cat's books is good enough.

>>40361047
See above.
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>>40361112
Also aspiring interior designer.
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>>40361335
Soma Fast travel isn't disciple exclusive. We can haggle for the fast travel visa.
I don't want to be a disciple. I like Mik the way he is. All I care about is the visa rights for fast travel.
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>>40361346
>>40361347
I can garuntee soma altered the encounter to account for our lack of gear.
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>>40361374
You can make whatever wild accusations you want anon, especially when Soma has gone to bed. No proof means we can dismiss them just as easily.
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>>40361374
not really, when the battle started, Mirror face and his cult was in the middle of a recruitment ritual. we got past their cult guard easily and infiltrated Mirrorface's realm without anyone else noticing. The Invasion was basically a spur of the moment and caught almost everyone off guard.
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>>40361335
So what your saying to me is, yeah it's okay, but look at all this shit that might possibly maybe could be a problem, Loooook at it, ITS HABBENING
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Becoming a disciple seen tempting. Pretty cool stuff all over even if he get some influence over us (read soma's post again is not total by a long shot), but I think it could be better to hold on for now. Maybe help him build up his strength a little, get his essence making sure he is in top condition before linking our life to his.
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The only argument I've seen for not doing it is

>Not wanting to "serve" another being

When in reality we're not even going to be serving him, we'll be closer to partners.

In fact that's what i propose we say to him, we ask him to become partners, each working to help each other equally.
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>>40361396
So he didn't adjust at all and planned it around the lack of armor.
>>40361402
Why not build his power and strengthen him while also getting benifits for doing so?
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>>40361402
That doesn't make sense anon.
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>>40361141
That we brought down to our level(Vys-wise) via her sucking at leech+manipulate and her having blown an amount of Vys equal to like 60% entire reserves before we even started to engage her. We only got 10 vys from her personally even w/ a Nat great success. If we didn't have the Vys pendant we would be dead right now. Also we didn't do more than give her a flesh wound before Mahana killed Mirrorface.
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>>40361425
>>40361440

Because he is not at his full strength? Remember that part of his essence is trap in the vault. I rarer he be at the top of his game if we are going to link our life to his.
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>>40361440
>>40361425
He's pretty weak right now. Had trouble taking down a younger spirit. Getting him established reduces the risk of some shitlord top tier spirit just walking up and ganking him if we roll poorly. Also gives us the choice of fucking off and burning bridges if there is the threat of such an invasion.

>>40361441
She was a biological, and tunneling down. One more turn and we would have rotted her eyeballs, and then her brain.
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>>40361360
You do realize there are more problematic order than just "kill X"? Some more realistic examples:

>"Stay here and recruit X people"
But you wanted to leave the city already.
>"Help me invade that spirit’s realm!"
Doesn’t matter if you wanted to negotiate with that spirit, or if that spirit was important for one of your aquaintances.
>"There’s a big cult-meeting in three weeks. As the highest ranking disciple you need to be there and do some rituals."
Trumps all other obligations.
>"I think that spirit may have agents trying to infiltrate my territory. Use the nearest temple to come back immediately and investigate."
Doesn’t matter if you were in the middle of a quest, or have to leave all your companions stranded in the desert.

I realize we can probably weasel out of a lot of shit, (everything but the last one), but we will need to follow some obligations and if we don’t we’ll piss of a being that holds the strings to our live in its paws. I expect it to be a minor hassle frequently and a major hassle every now and then. It will restrict our options. Just be patient and use other paths to power.
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>>40361456
But that doesn't make sense anon, would you let him die if we weren't linked? Are you an asshole? Are you doubting mik/catbros ability?
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>>40361441
>Also we didn't do more than give her a flesh wound before Mahana killed Mirrorface

She was outnumber, surrounded and drain. I think we were winning.
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>>40361456
His divine essence is his divine essence, it's not gonna change the more he has.
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>>40361417
>When in reality we're not even going to be serving him, we'll be closer to partners.
>Handing your life into the paws of another.
>Asking to become its "Disciple"
>Being partners
>Delusions.
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So. Was thinking of the railgun idea someone had to take down a dragon. Now we can probably get skull kid to make one, he should have the basic concept for it. But, I just thought of something that I do not think anyone has yet. Is there a way to create magical lightning. Either covered in nature magic, unlikely, or by combining different elements of magic.
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Our friend's wife's soul is also green. Who knows, maybe our friend has become a disciple by now as well.

If we decide to become cat spirit's disciple we may have to fight our friend and his wife when we return to El-Amin. At least if the mark of being a disciple is easily spotted.

This also explains why that girl is dressing in a suit that covers her whole body.
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>>40361305
>We're already strong as fuck.
kek. Big fish and small ponds anon. We can punch above our weight class on occasion but we aren't THAT good.
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>>40361471

He is bro and we are going to help him. But I am not going to die for him yet.
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>>40361468
Soma already said that we won't have to do that. see>>40360574

Besides we'll be telling him beforehand that we have our own shit to do and this isn't going to stop us from doing them. And he can't make us.

And everything on that list is false. We can tell him to go fuck himself whenever we want.
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It just occurred that a whole noble family and friends just drop dead or turn to dust in the real world.
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>>40361499
We can only do that for so long. Being a disciple means we have responsibilities. Ones that we can't ignore forever, and that we will have them forever.
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>All you idiots arguing that that being a disciple probably won't be a big deal in the future.

"Let's just permanently bind ourselves to this incredibly powerful creature and hope that he doesn't screw us over. He probably won't anon he seems cool. I bet we'll be partners, yeah! Ignore all those potential issues, they don't matter because we'll get more powerful here and now, the future isn't even real."
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>>40361477
>>Handing your life into the paws of another.
How? the only way for "our life to be in his hands" would be for him to kill himself to spite us.

Other than that we could tell him to fuck himself and he could do nothing about it.

Besides when we go into this we'll be telling him that we're goin to maintain our freedom and if he starts trying to influence us or disrupt our plans we'll stop aiding him.
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>>40361468
We are his highest ranking underling, he will be recruiting to fuck in anthus, he'll have lots of people to do that kind of shit, and I'm pretty sure us being his best bud will give us even more freedom. Anon you seem to think the cat will just pick us up and throw us at his problems. Hell soma even said catbro can recruit on his own, and how often do you think he'll NEED us? I don't think it'll be often at all, I mean he hasn't been bothered at all in however long he's been in el-Amin, and that's probably a spirit hotspot, plus once we open the vault and strengthen him further, he won't need us to protect him from regular things, he'd only call us when it's something BIG, and when that happens we would all enjoy a giant spirit war, or are you telling me this was boring for you?
>abandon our companions
You mean build a shrine there, take them with us(No mik how dare you bring people to my defense!) and then come back.
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>>40361514
>Ones that we can't ignore forever,
Actually we can.
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>>40361515
>this can literally only go wrong, being subservient to someone is literally death
No anon, you're just as bad
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>>40361514
When Cat bro get's powerful enough he'll stop needing our help.

He'll be getting other more permanent disciples to do his shit for him. We'll help him out, come to his aid if he needs it, build his power and expand his influence. But none of it will be him forcing us to do those things, we'll do it to help out our friend and grow our own power at the same time.
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>>40361417
No. We won't We will SERVE him.
>{In exchange for your service to me,
>Gather followers in my stead, erect shrines in places of great magical power, and perform task for me

You seem to be missing the point that we are literally putting ourselves as his minion, a very strong and strong willed one, but a minion none the less. Yes, we will have a fair bit of free roam, but if he ever needs us or has a task we -must- help or do it. In all honesty we need to ask if there's a way to not be put under such a restraining hold. Say, have it so we do still gain power, or artifacts, but aren't -required- to do tasks. I mean, we are going to continue to erect shrines everywhere we go, WE GET RUNES FOR IT.

So why don't we just make our partnership more solid. Get a piece of his essence, or get artifacts, in return, we will more actively make shrines, it behooves us to make them anyway this just sweetens the deal, and maybe even actively try to recruit.

>>40361518
Soma LITERALLY said we would have no choice in the matter if given a task. You know how we killed the Shah? Yeah we thought we could just not do it. -We still did it anyway.- But we loopholed it.That cloak of ours? Lets Void Entities put out contracts for people and we MUST fulfill them. Ricky doesn't have a piece of it's soul in us and we MUST do those contracts. Imagine what having a piece of his Mahana's soul in us will do?
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>>40361518
Man, you're right, how could he possibly harm us if we became his disciple and told him to fuck himself. I mean, it's not like he's an incredibly powerful spirit who would infuse his divine essence into our soul. There's no way it could ever be a bad thing that such a creature would always have a part of himself that we would have to resist and work to ignore.

Don't be stupid anon, if we became enemies, being his disciple and having part of his soul would basically be like having Entity 2 electric boogaloo in us. It's idiocy to discount that.
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Not cool with the disciple idea, though if we can jew our way out of some of it, namely freedom etc I'm golden.
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>>40361555
Anon you're being retarded.

We have Word of God on things and you're trying to go against it.
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>>40361262
>whole of anthus under his belt
No, he had only 2 worshippers or so, just because he was squatting on this fief doesn't mean much for his power.
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>>40361553
We can do that just fine without being a disciple, or selling our soul for all of eternity and linking our life to a spirit. And we can get bonuses that can lead us to be ultimately, just as powerful as a disciple but with complete freedom. Heck, if we can get the Vys rune out of him, we'll be set for life.
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Goddamn, we put on the mask and it's all "Ooooh, noooo, now our soul is owned by a spirit! What can we do!" and 100+ threads of shitposting about how bad of an idea it was.

And here you guys are now, wanting to do the same thing with a spirit.

Despite multiple, big fucking warnings not to make deals with the spirits.

Despite Soma going out of his way to point out that Var-Var NEVER made a deal with the spirits, despite it being an option.

Trust Var-Var. Do not become a Disciple.
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>>40361572
Freedom is the key factor and I think he'll readily give it to us. We just have to come right out and say we're not gonna be at his beck and call. We have our own shit to do and we're going to be doing it whether he likes it or not.
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>>40361572
We didn't grind out speech for no reason, and I mean if we haggle it out and we still don't like the deal there's nothing stopping us from turning it down.
Dear all anons, can we atleast agree to see what's the best we can get out of it before we go full "Nuh uh, ur gay. Yah huh, ur gayer"
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>>40361592
How are you that dumb?
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>>40361600
I'm always down for haggling, but fuck this disciple shit.

We're already relying heavily on Artifacts instead of actually getting good.
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>>40361581
Why didn't come kick his shit in and take that big swath of land if he was so weak?
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>>40361592
Wait! Wait! Ya'all! I've just had an idea on how to resolve this! Reading Sehzade's notes on Disciples! We can get a neutral, objective third person view on this from the greatest spirit expert on the continent.
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>>40361592
>Var-Var NEVER made a deal with the spirits,
r u retard?
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>>40361592
The water spirit was a Bellend
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>>40361614
Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even know about disciples. Water Spirit didn't seem like the type for them.
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>>40361577
We have word of god that the spirit will do most of the shit itself, at least as soon as it has a few servants. The disciple thing is permanent. Sure, Mahatma doesn’t mind if we travel around the world and spread his power. It can wait a few decades, especially if it can recall us at a moment’s notice.

But we will still be servants for the rest of Mikhael’s life. It would just be leniency on the part of the spirit if we can move around freely.

Varvar didn’t do this. Trust his judgement
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>>40361614
I think this is the best option right now.

You, sir, are a genius.
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>>40361610
So "Nuh uh, ur gay"? Thanks for being reasonable.
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>>40361555

I suppose we could go for a partnership with him instead of becoming his disciple. Lets be honest we all enjoy invading the shit out of other spirits and get artifacts for it. Get the Visa deal along with it and we are golden.
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>>40361518
Yeah, he would have no way to kill us, not like he explicitly stated that the reason we wouldn't die is because he'd willingly only siphon a little bit of our soul's byproduct, which means he could easily overwhelm and absorb our osul whenever he wanted.
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>>40361618
Please employ your reading comprehension. That poster probably meant "Var-Var Never became a Disciple."
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>>40361630
>It would just be leniency on the part of the spirit if we can move around freely.
False. Mahanna cannot force us to do anything. He can try but we can resist.

The only this we'll be "forced" to do is defend him if he's invaded which we'll wanna do anyway since our life is bound to his.
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>>40361630
>using varvar to defend your stupid ass
No fuck you, yeah we'll work for him for the rest of our life, but we'll also be essentially immortal(as long as he lives), and we probably would have already worked for him for the rest of our life(albeit without the disciple part)
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>>40361636
That's not my argument, although I'll concede the point regarding your massive faggotry.

But we won't be increasing our power nearly so much as relying on the Cat dude's, and there's a million ways that could fuck us in the end and we not only don't need the power at the moment, but it could end up making us a bunch of enemies that could still curbstomp us WITH his loaned power.
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>>40361614
Why, that would be straight-up reasonable! Get a load of this guy, he thinks we will vote for the reasonable option.
I still hope this will be an actual option.
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>>40361614


This is a GREAT idea,supporting!
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I'm just gonna leave because some anons are getting really stupid right now and they're not worth the headache to try and convince.
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i think we should become his 1st disciple before someone else becomes it because in the end i think we will still become his disciple even if it's not now
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>>40361662
We already are biologically immortal, we need to figure out a way not to go mad.

> and we probably would have already worked for him for the rest of our life

Where the fuck did you get this idea? Right now we're working for him on a piece-work basis. Make a shrine, get some shit.

This is locking us into a lifetime contract of slavery. Maybe gentle slavery, but slavery all the same.

> MFW the cat loves the fucking irony of when we once said he was our property, and now we're his.

The only way I would ever consider this is if we could be equal partners, or waifu the cat.
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>>40361466
>One more turn and we would have rotted her eyeballs, and then her brain.

And then she gets to pullout her limit break because "killing" a disciple brings out their true form.

>>40361473
At the moment. She would have dealt with our soldiers and golems with time. Her spirit patron was Fire+Earth. Which means that, since she was a Master Meatal Vatis as well, all we could really do is try water shit once she engaged us. Not graet given the environment. We might have still pulled it off but what saved us was delaying till the Cat could do his thing.
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>>40361676
You're not missing much. Late night anons are dead set on their opinions and get nasty and unfocused when "debating." Hardly any of this will have any relevance.
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>>40361666
Sure we don't need the power, but if we haggle now we have the upper hand, we don't need shit from him, but he would certainly love a powerful disciple. If we try to get help when we need it he could fuck us over big time. Plus we would make enemies like that anyway if we continued working for him, which we probably will.
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>>40361614
Well, I'll vote for this if it comes up. And I don't sleep through Soma's next quest.
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Just going to remind everyone that none of this matters at all. Goodnight.
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>>40361682
>waifu the cat
we're going to do this
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Yeap. The only people awake are pretty fanatical. Go to sleep. We'll get more objective info from Sehzade's notes. You're wasting your energy and life lads. Go to bed.
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>>40361700
I agree we should totally turn the cat intoa girl just so we can waifu it. or have Soma Retcon it.
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>>40361682
>biologically immortal
That sure does stop being killed.
And last I checked working for someone isn't slavery
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>>40361692
Man, we've gazed upon the face of a god and barely survived. But we did survive. We have an ancient horror living in our skull. An Elder, which is to the cat as the cat is to the bacteria on our skin, is our bro level butler. Our son is a dragon. We have a techno-wizard working with two survivors who have the inherited knowledge of their respective ancient empires, as well as (growing) knowledge of enchanting.

I think you're shooting too low here, long term we're going to be wrecking shit harder than this pussy ever could.
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>>40361708
he can stay a guy, i have no problem with getting him as a husbando instead
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>>40361705
The only thing we all seem to agree on is wanting get something from him. Lets start from there and put out everythign we want from Catwaifu.
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>>40361705
>people that disagree with me are being stupid
>implying varvars notes are an objective truth
No
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>>40361662
We are already plenty immortal, especially with all the awesome sanity-extending loot have or will have in the future.
There is a HUGE difference between making deals with a variety of spirits out of our own free will and becoming permanently bound to a single one. If we go this route I wouldn’t be surprised if Mahatma would expect us to take over other spirits instead of making deals with them in the future. Which we still can ignore but may strain relations.

>>40361657
Oh, then we shouldn’t be worried about the entity either, because we can always try to resist, right!? There’s still a huge power disparity and Mahatma will always be able to threaten us with simply overcharging us with its power to take over our mind. It’s not that he cannot control us, it’s just that it cannot take it back afterwards. Also, with how spread out its realm is becoming enemy incursions become every more likely.
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>>40361705
Never! I will argue until Soma wakes up tomorrow and sees this thread. My passion will keep me awake even when all other extremely opinionated anons in this quest have faltered and given in to unconsciousness.

I'm actually going to bed now. Goodnight.
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>>40361721
Making yourself unable to stop working for someone, being at their mercy at any moment, and possibly being forced to do their bidding when they feel like it is slavery.
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>>40361728
The cat could kill us right now, or did you forget the time it nearly did kill us?
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>>40361655
Nah he just acted like the spirits fuck boi so he didn't lose his mind. More like he was a high class call girl for the water spirit really.
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>>40361705
Good night, anon.
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>>40361743
Only because we are now in it's realm. Once we leave guess what it can't do?
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>>40361758
Still kill us, or did you forget it's a spirit, not a wheel chair bound retard baby
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>>40361758
If we're his disciple he could kill us whenever by overwhelming and absorbing our soul with the piece of his divinity he would insert into us.
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>>40361784
False
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>>40361781
>>40361784
it would be able to kill us even if he don't become it's disciple
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>>40361831
He literally said the reason we won't die is because he willingly only siphons a little bit of our soul's byproduct.
Prove that he couldn't kill us we a thought by quoting something Soma said if you can.
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>>40361855
Not as easily though.
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>>40361860
He can kill us anyway
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>>40361871
>Not as easily though.
did you read any of Soma's posts this thread? he'd be able to kill us without any problem at all
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>>40361860
Burden of proof lies with the claimaint
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>>40361880
If we're his disciple, he could kill us at a distance too.
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>>40361884
Spirits can do that anyway
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>>40361884
Okay, see: >>40360360
>I would impart upon you a shard of my divine essence. A very small shard, so as to avoid consuming your soul entirety.
Which means he could easily impart a larger one and consume our entire soul.
>I will in turn feed on this excess, but even after I have taken my share you will still be more powerful than you are now.
Which means he could take more of our magic and leave us weaker than we would otherwise be if he wanted to.
>>40361892
False, the mirror spirit couldn't kill us with a thought even though we were in his realm.
Plus, catbro couldn't even leave the estate till now, it makes no sense for him to be able to exert his power outside of his domain.
Prove what you said or accept that you were wrong.
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>>40361872
Not outside of its domain. Right now, we can run away and prepare while staying safe. This will no longer be an option for disciples.
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>>40361908
God aren't you argumentative.



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