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Overview

>This is a quest taking place in the Dragonball universe, starting at the beginning of the Saiyan Saga

>You are a human male, currently eleven years of age (12 actual)

>All previous threads are archived on suptg if you'd like to catch up

>At the end of each update, you will have the opportunity to vote on what to do next. After ten minutes, the option with the most votes wins

>Write-ins are allowed, though I will disregard those I suspect to be shitposting

>Death is possible in this quest, but in this universe it is rarely permanent. So, try to be careful, but have fun

>I will offer certain action/dialogue options at the end of each update. You can vote on these, or write-in

>Have fun
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IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN
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>>38680722
This quest really went to shit.
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So I've got an idea and it's probably crazy but hear me out on this. What if we unlocked Bulma's and Dr. Brief's ki and ki sense and let them do experiments and research with it? Then they can write a book on their finding and this rather esoteric knowledge to the public light.

And then during the 7 years of peace after Cell, we get Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, and Chaotzu to resurrect the Turtle and Crane schools and start teaching people about ki-enhanced martial arts.

What do you guys think?
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"Can I see Gero's journals?" you ask.

Bulma nods slowly. "Yes, but I should probably warn you, some of the stuff in there is, well, it's pretty disturbing."

She walks over to a nearby table and grabs some journals, walking over and handing them to you. Looking at the covers, you see one titled "Artificial Human Program" and the other titled "The Cell Project".

"Any chance I could get that fruit back?" you ask.

"Yeah, I'll get it for you before you leave," Bulma tells you.

"Android Sixteen is living on my farm," you inform her. "Should I bring him in? Do you think that you could upgrade him?"

She frowns. "I don't know about upgrades, but bringing him in might be a good idea. I was doing some reading, and Gero planted explosive devices in every Android starting with number eight. We might want to remove that, or it could be bad."

>A. Ask why Gero put bombs in the Androids

>B. Ask if Cell has one too

>C. Ask if Seventeen and Eighteen had explosives, being cyborgs and not Androids

>D. Go home

>E. Find Goku

>F. Read the Artificial Human Journal

>G. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38680833
it could mesh well with the superhuman army that another Anon suggested.
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>>38680844
>B. Ask if Cell has one too
>G. Read the Project Cell journal
Get a copy and read it while flying
>E. Find Goku
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>>38680844
>B. Ask if Cell has one too
>C. Ask if Seventeen and Eighteen had explosives, being cyborgs and not Androids
>F. Read the Artificial Human Journal
>G. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38680844
>>A. Ask why Gero put bombs in the Androids
>B. Ask if Cell has one too
>C. Ask if Seventeen and Eighteen had explosives, being cyborgs and not Androids
then
>F. Read the Artificial Human Journal

>G. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38680844
>A. Ask why Gero put bombs in the Androids
>>C. Ask if Seventeen and Eighteen had explosives, being cyborgs and not Androids
>>F. Read the Artificial Human Journal
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>>38680844
>E. Find Goku
Give gohan the fruit.
Then
>D
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>>38680844
A, B, C, then start G. The Cell one might have some info on him and his abilities.
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>>38680833
Gohan does that in canon, but like 20 years later
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>>38680844
>B. Ask if Cell has one too
>C. Ask if Seventeen and Eighteen had explosives, being cyborgs and not Androids
>F. Read the Artificial Human Journal
>G. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38680935
this.
we're gonna start augmenting ourselves with android tech in the time after cell.
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>>38680858
I'd think an entire army would be overkill, but unlocking a division of marines into Superhumans during the 7 year gap would work pretty well as a tactical first response unit.

Hell, they could even come join us when we assault Babidi's ship.
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>>38680924
We actually planted the idea in him years ago, so he might even try to do it earlier, or since we've studied with him so much... help him with the research later. Though, I think we've decided Kaguya's civvie job will be as a master chef.
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>>38680973
there is no overkill. only firing and reloading.
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>>38680961
We bother? It'd weaken us substantially.
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>>38681012
better sensors and wider light spectrum vision. Endless Stamina. Absorbing enemy ki attacks. these are just a few already existing tech that are better than what we have.
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>>38681079
I'm pretty sure that would cost us our super human abilities.
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>>38680973
>>38680858

Dralo said that co-operating with the government and basically making a super human special ops, X Com like group would be feasible. Army? Highly unlikely. Regardless, it'd mean like a secondary group of Z fighters, which would be neat.
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>>38681089
I'm gonna need a QM ruling on that. just replacing our eyes with better ones shouldn't tamper with our humanity but rule 0 and all that.
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>>38681079
Lose superhuman abilities, Lose our main strength, stagnate. No thanks. Hell right now we could break the absorbers on 19 and 20 from overload.
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>>38681149
>>38681136
>>38681079
>>38681012
>>38680961
I'd only vote for Kaguya becoming a cyborg if he got beaten so badly he lost limbs and shit. Like, Metal Kaguya could be cool, but only if absolutely necessary.
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Can we give the absorbers to 16 for training? What about help make our own robots?
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>>38681212
assembly line of super 13s? hell yeah.
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>>38681136
You better not be that same annoying anon that named fagged in the first thread.
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>>38681212
I vote for this. He doesn't want to fight, but I think he'd accept upgrades like that with the knowledge that he might have too.
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>>38681194
I'm against cyborg Kaguya personally, but I'm all for trying to uplift humanity and making special division in the world army for superhumans to help with containment, evacuation of civvies and holding the line in case of any super powerful threats.
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>>38681255
and thus humanity became the new Saiyans.
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>>38680873
>>38680885
>>38680891
>>38680895
>>38680902
>>38680909
>>38680935
"Why would Gero put bombs in his Androids?" you ask.

"It was a failsafe if they went rogue, or a last resort if they encountered an opponent they couldn't beat," Bulma explains.

"Does Cell have one too?" you ask.

"I'm not sure, but I wouldn't doubt it," Bulma answers.

"Did Seventeen and Eighteen have explosives?" you ask. "They were cyborgs, not Androids."

She nods. "Yes, Gero planted explosive devices in them."

"I think I'm going to go find Goku," you tell her. "Could I have that fruit?"

"Yeah, I'll go get it. Wait here," Bulma instructs before leaving the room.

While you wait, you look down at the two journals in your hand, one about the Androids, one about Cell.

>A. Read the Artificial Human Journal

>B. Read the Project Cell journal

>C. Wait for Bulma to come back

>D. Something else
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>>38681297
>>B. Read the Project Cell journal
More important
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>>38681297
>A. Read the Artificial Human Journal
We must learn
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
Know thine enemy and all that.
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
>D. Something else
"Well time to stare at the abyss of madness"
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38681297
>>A. Read the Artificial Human Journal
>>B. Read the Project Cell journal
and
>D. Something else
Thank her for all her help. We are sorta making her spend alot of money to help us.
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>>38681231
>>38681212

Once the Super Android 13 is mass produced, we'll put an end to the Plant Trade Organization in no time!
>>38681255
Hence, I'm saying only if we'd be a gimp without them. I don't want cyborg kaguya. According to >>38681105 dralo okay-ed the sort of thing you're talking about as something we can eventually do. I think I actually saw that in the Ask FM.
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>>38681297
>>A. Read the Artificial Human Journal
>B. Read the Project Cell journal

We are a superhuman Reading speed is a limit we must break!
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>>38681379
push ourselves past the limits of human reading comprehension and reach the level of super autism!
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
And then Kaguya will learn that science is something both beautiful in good hands and horrifying in the hands of a mad man
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>>38681297
>>A. Read the Artificial Human Journal
>>B. Read the Project Cell journal
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So what does everyone think about tuning the scientists at Capsule Corp into their ki sense so they can experiment with and perform research on it? Good idea or bad idea?
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>>38681446
good idea.
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>>38681379
>>38681430
And then Kaguya had a 948th Grade reading level. Chichi would be proud.
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>>38681446
Not a bad idea, but Gohan is gonna do that anyway when he grows up, according to Dragon Ball Online.
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
>>38681007
I can see Kaguya being more interested in the fields of space travel and advancement since of all the different planets he has been both in the real world and Pendulum Room
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>>38681007
fuck that job automatisation and robotics is where it's at.
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>>38681517
Perhaps. I was just going off of what people were saying in one of the older threads about how that'd make sense with his background as a farmer.
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Congratulations Dralo, with this there are as many threads of DBZ Human Quest as there are episodes of Dragon Ball Kai.
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Hey guys I just had a weird idea.
You know how 17 and 18 had mechanical thingies that constantly gave them energy?
What if we installed one of those in an asteroid and grew a tree of might on it? We would get more fruit and not have to worry about it disturbing anyone else s lives or planets.
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>>38681562
Thats more of a Nappa side project that Kaguya helps him with later on in the years of peace after the Cell Games
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With all the talk of mass producing robots and training earth special forces....

I'm expecting Revival of F to turn into a flat out war between Earth's forces and combined might of Freiza's and Cooler's army.
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>>38681577
Anon if that works you should be given a fucking medal.
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>>38681297
>B. Read the Project Cell journal
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>>38681577
>>38681608
Except you'd have to probably murder 18 or 17 to do it.
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>>38681605
Cooler hates us but tolerates us, he is our Freeza Vegeta
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>>38681605
Oh god, that could be the big finale of the quest. Think of the awesome fight that would ensue!
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>>38681577
Why settle for an asteroid? Put it on the moon or a barren planet like Mars.

>>38681636
Why? We have their production notes, Bulma and Dr. Briefs should be able to reverse engineer it if they put their minds to it.
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>>38681636
we have the blueprints for both 18 and 17. we don't need to kill shit.
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>>38681563
Wow, really?
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>>38681577
That sounds amazing. We could just have Broly stand on it.
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>>38681636
Says who? We have Gero's journal and research papers remember?
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>>38681636
Or have Bulma study the tech? I mean it's not hard concepts and she's as smart as or smarter than Gero. And there will be other android we could salvage after a fight if she can't study them right. Besides we have Gero's research easy to make more.
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>>38681667
Can't tell if that is sarcasm or not. Still, the congratulations wasn't made in jest.
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>>38681661
>>38681658
Oh, nevermind.

ONCE THE TREE OF MIGHT IS MASS PRODUCED...
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>>38681684
It wasn't in sarcasm, I legit didn't know.
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>>38681603
I could see Kaguya helping Nappa build a restaurant sometime after the Cell Games.
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>>38681770
Yeah, not counting the shoddily made Final Chapters there's 98 threads of DBZ Human Quest and 98 episodes of Dragon Ball Kai.
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>>38681316
>>38681329
>>38681334
>>38681363
>>38681371
>>38681432
>>38681435
>>38681517
>>38681629
"Well, time to stare into the abyss of madness," you comment, opening the project Cell journal.

"After dedicating so many years to the Artificial Human project, it feels strange to turn my attention to other works. However, Android Sixteen is the last failure I care to deal with for the time being. It is time for me to move onto something that I know will be a success. For years, I have worked to create artificial life capable of surpassing the greatest warriors in the universe, but this creation will be different. It won't simply be greater than the strongest fighters alive, it will be made from them."

You turn the page and continue reading Gero's notes.

"I have decided to utilize a system similar to the surveillance I performed during the Artificial Human program in order to gather the genetic material required to create the ultimate lifeform. The fleet of drones for this purpose is nearly complete, and soon the harvesting will begin."

>A. Keep reading

>B. Read from the other journal

>C. Something else
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>>38682003
>A. Keep reading
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>>38682003
>B. Read from the other journal
I feel like, to get the most out of this, we need to read the other. Gotta know basic monster making before going to the advanced course
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>>38682003
>>A. Keep reading
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>>38682003
>A. Keep reading
>C. Something else
Que serious reading music
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>>38682003
>>A. Keep reading
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>>38682003
>>A. Keep reading
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>>38682003
>A. Keep reading
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>>38682003
C. Try to read faster than normal. push those limits.
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>>38682003
>B. Read from the other journal
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>>38682060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I
Just for chuckles since this is the red ribbon army we're dealing with.
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If we don't get a chance to finish reading this journal or read the other journal, can we ask to take some photocopies of them with us?
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>>38682003
>A. Keep reading
It will be useful, one day it might help us to create our Primarchs
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>>38682152
Primarchs?
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>>38682445
There was a running plan in the beginning of the Quest, that we will use our superhuman qualities to become the Emperor of Mankind, and extend our Imperium across the world
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>>38682152
>>38682075
>>38682065
>>38682064
>>38682060
>>38682049
>>38682029
You decide to keep reading.

"The drones are done, and just in time, it seems," it says. "A curious development has taken place, and provided me with an opportunity to gather more cells. Earlier today, an object from another world crashed on a farm out in the country. And inside the object war a creature remarkably similar to a human, except for one curious feature. He had a tail, very similar to the one Goku possessed as a child. My suspicions of a connection between the two was proven correct by my surveillance drones, which discovered that the Alien was Goku's brother. The harvester drones were able to gather some cells from the alien known as Raditz, and, better still, the surveillance drones were able to gather a significant amount of data during a battle between Raditz, Goku, Piccolo, and a young boy, apparently named Kaguya, strangely enough. Goku's son displayed a shocking amount of strength. I'm certain the harvesters gathered some of his cells, but I wonder where this power of his came from."

You continue reading.

"The past year has been somewhat frustrating," the journal says. "With the impending arrival of the Saiyans, I expected to be able to collect a significant amount of data on Goku's allies as they trained. Unfortunately, they all seem to be doing their training on the legendary Lookout of the Guardian, Kami. My drones have located the Lookout, but are unable to reach it, for whatever reason. However, upon the arrival of the Saiyans, I was able to gather a large amount of data on Goku's friends during the ensuing battle. In addition, cells gathered from Nappa and Vegeta will go a long way towards creating the perfect being. Even those Saibamen creatures seemed to possess some interesting abilities, though the full extent won't be known until I conduct a thorough cellular analysis."

>A. Keep reading

>B. Read other journal

>C. Something else
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two things we need to do

1. get 16 in a gravity chamber seeing that we should be strong enough now to survive, ask him to tell us when we reach the level we could damage him so we can stop training

2. when this cell business is over, when gohan becomes a superhero, we should become the worlds batman
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>>38682553
>A. Keep reading
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>>38682553
>A. Keep reading
not stopping here
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>>38682553
>A. Keep reading
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>>38682553
>A. Keep reading
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>>38682553
>A. Keep reading
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I just had another idea.
What if we take a good amount of senzubeans around the world and give them to pharmacists for research? Maybe we can develop senzu supplement pills that give us the energy overtime so we can Rampage Drive for much longer then normal,
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>>38682553
>>A. Keep reading
Just write it all out so this doesn't eat the thread. We can wait.
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>>38682575
>2. when this cell business is over, when gohan becomes a superhero, we should become the worlds batman

But, our parents aren't DEEEAAAAAAAD!!!
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>>38682634
Don't give the QM any ideas, now.
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>>38682626
slow acting senzu beans? sounds good. another thing would be an automated injector that injects a liquid of senzu extract when the user is in critical condition.
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>>38682575
You mean Kamen Rider Black
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>>38682652
Too late
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>>38682652
eh death isn't permanent anyways. we can literally go visit them in the afterlife.
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>>38682666
I don't like where this is going
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>>38682666
>>38682634
YOU FOOL, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
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>>38682666
Good, good, the railroading of the QM is working just as planned. Catwoman Videl, soon.
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>>38682666
So does that make Gohan, Spiderman?
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>>38682666
I just noticed you're Satan again.
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>>38682658
Who said we needed an automatic injector?
We Naked Snake it and temporarily replace our teeth with false ones filled with the supplement.We use a small amount of the healing pod juice to keep our teeth alive until we are done with they Cell Games business and put our real teeth back in.
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>>38682768
good point. fashion senzu beans to look like our teeth and keep eating them one at a time throught the fight.
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>>38682581
>>38682596
>>38682602
>>38682623
>>38682625
>>38682630
You keep reading, nearly through Gero's notes.

"To my great frustration, Goku took little part in the battle against the Saiyans," it reads. "He fought only briefly, and while data was gathered on a technique known as the "Kaio-Ken", it is far from enough to create a proper data module of any new powers Goku has acquired during his time in Otherworld. For this reason, I am forced to send drones to follow him and his friends to Namek."

You turn to the last page.

"The drones have successfully stowed away on the trip to Namek, and soon I will have many more Cells and far more data for my projects. However, I have come to the realization that creating the perfect lifeform is a task that I am unlikely to finish in my own lifetime. For that reason, I programmed a supercomputer to continue my work. In the meantime, I have recently acquired two new test subjects for the Artificial Human program. I believe they will be more than adequate for my purposes, and might even be useful in creating the perfect being...."

You close the journal, setting it back on the table.

>A. Read the other journal

>B. Wait for Bulma

>C. Something else
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>>38682926
>>B. Wait for Bulma
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>>38682926
>A. Read the other journal
We both know we both want it
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>>38682926

>B. Wait for Bulma
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>>38682926
>A. Read the other journal
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>>38682926
>A. Read the other journal
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>>38682926
>>A. Read the other journal
because we need to fucking know if there is anything useful here that can be used against Cell.
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>>38682926
>>A. Read the other journal
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>>38682926
>A. Read the other journal
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Where the hell is everyone?
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>>38682926
>>A. Read the other journal
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>>38683310
Gone.
Cell ate them.
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>>38683326
That fat BASTARD!
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>>38683337
I'm bigger'n ye, I'm higher up on the food chain!
GET IN MAH BELLEH!
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>>38683008
>>38682997
>>38682987
>>38682981
>>38682970
>>38682967
You open the other journal and begin reading.

"I have been appointed as Chief Scientist of the Red Ribbon Army," it says. "Commander Red ordered the execution of my predecessor for allowing his second model warbot get stolen by pirates. I will not make the same idiotic mistakes. In this journal, I will write of each creation I produce. And, when the Red Ribbon Army controls the world, I will reap the rewards as the genius who brought us to power!"

>A. Read on Android 1

>B. Read on Android 2

>C. Read on Android 3

>D. Read on Android 4

>E. Read on Android 5

>F. Read on Android 6

>G. Read on Android 7

>H. Read on Android 8

>I. Read on Android 9

>J. Read on Android 10

>K. Read on Android 11

>L. Read on Android 12

>M. Read on Android 13

>N. Read on Android 14

>O. Read on Android 15

>P. Read on Android 16

>Q. Read on Cyborg 17

>R. Read on Cyborg 18

>S. Read on Android 19

>T. Read on Android 20

>U. Just wait for Bulma to come back

>V. Something else
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>>38683372
>>U. Just wait for Bulma to come back
Fuck this
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>>38683372
>M. Read on Android 13
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>>38682926
>A. Read the other journal
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>>38683372
>M. Read on Android 13
>N. Read on Android 14
>O. Read on Android 15
>P. Read on Android 16
>Q. Read on Cyborg 17
>R. Read on Cyborg 18

>>38683391
>wanting to miss out on free exposition
What's wrong with you?
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>>38683372
>A. Read on Android 1

>H. Read on Android 8

>M. Read on Android 13

>N. Read on Android 14

>O. Read on Android 15

>P. Read on Android 16

>Q. Read on Cyborg 17

>R. Read on Cyborg 18

>S. Read on Android 19

>T. Read on Android 20
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>>38683416
But -I- already know most of this. I think I'll come back in an hour or something.
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>>38683416
these.

he has an attention span of a goldfish.
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>>38683372
>A. Read on Android 1
>H. Read on Android 8
>I. Read on Android 9
>S. Read on Android 19
>Q Read on Cyborg 17
>R. Read on Cyborg 18
>M. Read on Android 13
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>>38683372
Too.. many... choices! Can't compute!
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>>38683372
>V. Something else
just give us a brief summary
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>>38683372
>A. Read on Android 1

>B. Read on Android 2

>C. Read on Android 3

>D. Read on Android 4

>E. Read on Android 5

>F. Read on Android 6

>G. Read on Android 7

>H. Read on Android 8

>I. Read on Android 9

>J. Read on Android 10

>K. Read on Android 11

>L. Read on Android 12

>M. Read on Android 13

>N. Read on Android 14

>O. Read on Android 15

>P. Read on Android 16

>Q. Read on Cyborg 17

>R. Read on Cyborg 18
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>>38683372
>P. Read on Android 16
>Q. Read on Cyborg 17
>R. Read on Cyborg 18
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>>38683416
>>38683397
>>38683444
You flip ahead through the journal, stopping when you reach the entry on Android 13.

"Number thirteen is a fully mechanical perpetual energy model," the journal explains. "After the failures involving Numbers Eleven and Twelve, I have decided to forgo creating cyborgs and instead stick to full Androids. In addition, I have determined that perpetual energy models are simply more efficient. As usual, I have kept the appearance of this model human, and even programmed him with the mannerisms and vocal patterns of a redneck. I have also decided to give Number Thirteen the ability to salvage parts from other models and integrate them into his own design."

You flip to the page on Android 14.

"Android Fourteen is, like his predecessor, a perpetual energy model, and entirely mechanical," the journal explains. "While Thirteen was designed with an eye towards blending in, Fourteen has a rather offputting appearance, and doesn't speak much. He is simply programmed to coldly and efficiently carry out his orders, and with his level of power, I believe He will be more than capable of dealing with Goku."

You turn the page.

"Android Fifteen is quite similar in programming to Number Fourteen," the journal explains. "In fact, as I constructed number Fifteen, I made some alterations to the programing of Fourteen so that the two would be more able to work together and exchange information. Fifteen's appearance is far less intimidating, and he is far smaller in stature. However, he has displayed greater intelligence and personality than his predecessor, I consider him a successful project."

>(Continued)
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>>38683839
You keep reading.

"Goku's power has been increasing over the years, despite the fact that he has settled down and started a family. For this reason, I feared that Fourteen and Fifteen might not be enough. So, I sought to create a model with enough power to crush Goku effortlessly. Number Sixteen was modeled in appearance after my fallen son, but the infernal machine has proven to be a colossal disappointment. While his power is every bit as great as I'd hoped for, he does not follow my orders properly, refusing to accept any command other than eliminating Goku. This level of disobedience is astounding, as the past three models have obeyed me entirely. Sixteen has been shut down, as has this project, as I turn my attention towards a new area of research, one that shall yield far greater results."

You turn to the next entry.

"As the realization that the Cell project will not be completed in my lifetime came, so too did some good fortune," it says. "I happened upon a pair of runaways who were being pursued by the North City Police. It was a simple matter to bring them to my lab, simply by offering to hide them and give them some food. The two are quite young, and in surprisingly good physical condition for a pair of delinquents. They are siblings, a boy named Lapis, and a girl named Lazuli. After Numbers Eleven and Twelve, I expected never to create cyborgs again, but my research in that field has given me plenty of knowledge, and I am confident that this time, I can do things right. Some sedatives and the confiscation of the gun Lapis was carrying will keep them from escaping, and soon my work can begin."

>A. Keep reading

>B. Wait for Bulma to get back
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>>38684033
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684033
>A. Keep reading
Lets look at 20. I want to know how he did it.
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>>38684033
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684033

>A. Keep reading
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>>38684077
Simple, he build #19 and most of #20 and then had #19 transfer his brain into the casing of #20.
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>>38684111
Huh. That makes sense. I wouldn't trust 19 for that. He seems the kind to drop things or squeeze them too hard.
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>>38684033
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684077
I'm honestly curious about 11 and 12 now. Also, the original and the shittiest.
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>>38684182
Right we should probably have asked about the ones that never showed up
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>>38684205
Relax, let's just ask for some photocopies.

Also, this stuff wasn't all that horrifying or brain destroying.
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>>38684236
Other than the whole kidnapping and turning into cyborg thing.
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>>38684182
I am curious about them as well.
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>>38684236
He basically reenacted Hansel and Gretel.
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>>38684378
Except he succeeded where the witch failed, unless you go by the original story, and not the happy feely one.
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>>38684070
>>38684077
>>38684081
>>38684088
>>38684157
"Lapis and Lazuli are not pleased with their current predicament," the journal says as you continue reading. "Were I in their position, I imagine I would feel the same. They have already made attempts to escape, though I have seen to it that there is no way out for them. The ungrateful brats should consider themselves likely. They will become some of the mightiest beings to ever exist, and then parts of something even greater. I haven't told them what I intend to do, of course. There is a chance that they may attempt to take their own lives if they know what's coming. So, it will have to be a surprise."

You turn the page.

"The process began today. I sedated the two and brought them to the surgery tables, which, I haven't had to make use of since Numbers Eleven and Twelve. The procedure requires that the patients be awake, and Lapis gave quite a good indication of the agony the procedure caused him. It was difficult to keep him from dying of shock from what was happening, but, unlike with previous failures, he survived the procedure, though the effect it will have on his mental state remains to be seen. Lazuli, usually the quiet one, was rather vocal as I operated on her brother, shouting curses and promises that she would end my life. Of course, the only noise she made once it was her turn was screams of pain. It was a difficult process, but the conversion is complete. Lapis is now Cyborg Seventeen, and Lazuli is now Cyborg Eighteen. The two will, of course, need more work done so that they can function properly, as it is, they're currently rendered comatose from what I've done. Of course, further programming is much easier than the first step, and I am confident that Seventeen and Eighteen will be the greatest achievements of this program."

You turn the page.

>A. Keep reading

>B. Read on Android 19

>C. Read on Android 20

>D. Read on 11 and 12

>E. Wait for Bulma
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
>D. Read on 11 and 12
'Okay, now this is pretty nightmare fuel inducing.
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
Now we're entering the depths of man's evil. Better keep going.
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>>38684440
A, notice book is starting to shake a little as we are shaking with rage.
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>>38684536
grrrr
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>>38684536
would we really? we've meditated enough to have better control of our mind than that.
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>>38684440
>>C. Read on Android 20
How the hell did he do brain surgery on himself?!
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>>38684440
>A. keep reading
>D. Read on Android 11 and 12
>B. Read on Android 19
>C. Read on Android 20
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>>38684574
He had #19 do it.
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>>38684574
DBZ magic, probably Namekian. No wait, genie magic! Wait wait! He had help from a Kai! Shit, no! Oh, wait, yeah, he got help from 19.
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>>38684571
Remember Kamiccolo after Cell got away? He was mad as fuck, and all Piccolo does is sleep, I mean meditate.
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684574
automation. you're really surprised that a brilliant roboticist doesn't need to personally do a surgery?
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>>38684440

>A. keep reading
>D. Read on Android 11 and 12

Whether you do 11 and 12 before more of 17 and 18 or after we finish their parts its fine either way.
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>>38684440
>A. Keep reading
>D. Read on 11 and 12
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>>38684614
>>38684597
>>38684576
>>38684536
>>38684512
>>38684501
>>38684492
>>38684477
>>38684463
You're beginning to understand why Bulma was worried about you reading the journals. Nevertheless, you read on, turning the page.

"Cyborgs Seventeen and Eighteen have been shut down," the journal says. "They have proven disobedient, and, unlike Sixteen, who simply refused to obey orders, Seventeen and Eighteen have made attempts on my life. This is unacceptable. The two were quite powerful, but now I can't use them. They will simply remain offline until Cell is complete. Then, he will wake them and swallow them whole."

You're a bit curious about the previous cyborgs Gero created, so you flip back to the entries on Androids 11 and 12.

"My attempts at creating cybernetic warriors have been frustrating," the journal says. "I've gone through dozens of subjects, and they've all either died in the process of conversion, or immediately upon being activated. To make matters worse, I've nearly been caught by the local police on multiple occasions. Things are becoming dangerous, and I've already had to reactivate Android Ten to eliminate some fools snooping around. If the two subjects I've recently acquired prove failures, then I am going to forego the pursuit of creating cyborgs altogether."

>A. Keep reading

>B. Read on 19

>C. Read on 20

>D. Just wait for Bulma to return
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>>38684869
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684869
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684869
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684869
>A. Keep reading
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>>38684869
D
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>>38681105
>Superhuman Xcom
God no.
God pls no.

Have you SEEN the kind of ethics Xcom uses?
As in, COMPLETE LACK OF ETHICS?
Mind raping the defenseless as a training exercise, or for fun. Letting recruits intentionally kill themeslves. Intentionally TRIGGERING an alien invasion, because all those dead xenos and salvaged UFO parts look good on the monthly report. Levelling houses, barns, crops, cities, anything that can't be sold. Selling weapons to whoever pays them.
I wouldn't put it past Xcom manually infiltrating the world governments themselves and starting a world war so they'd have more demand, and thus get more money, for their weapons sales.
After all, the casualties from a world war don't get shown on the monthly report. ;-)
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>>38685022
well if the assholes would stop demanding we pay for shit we use to DEFEND EARTH I wouldn't have to be so predatory in my management of finances.
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>>38685022
Are you talking about X-COM as in classic X-COM? Or XCOM as in reboot XCOM?
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>>38685106
considering the new xcom doesn't have proper destructible environments the answer is obvious.
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>>38685134
>Rocket goes wide and hits the wall of a building
>Paying fines for years afterwards

Fuckin' Xcom man, not trying to save them from aliens or anything.
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>>38685022
But an Xcom with Kaguya at the helm would be an interesting organization if only because a nation pulling support would have to deal with him going to "negotiate" with them personally. Seriously, what part of last best hope for humanity do those chuckle fucks not get?

That aside Z-Com with actual ethics and bad ass elites would be amazing. Artificial Human units, Ki Manipulators, Perpetual Energy Mechs, Namekian commandos (DLC only), Saiyan shock troops and super human assault troops.
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>>38685022
And you just fucking know Xcom will gleefully release Live Chryssalids on anyone who loses faith in the Xcom project because fuck 'em.

Once I took an Avenger of 8 psionic soldiers and 18 low-psi-potential rookies over to a Snakeman terror mission in Rome. Italy had withdrawn funding from the project. I mind controlled and disarmed the snakemen, fed everyone but the 8 psi-bros to the chryssalids, loaded all the xenos weapons into the avenger, and buggered off.
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>>38685153
> (DLC only)

Fucking EA
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>>38685022
In a videogame, give the player 50 experience points for being Mother Theresa and 51 for being Josef Mengele and people will be Mengele every single time.
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>>38684919
>>38684917
>>38684907
>>38684903
You turn the page and keep on reading.

"The two subjects I have come to possess are orphans, and sisters. One is quite young, likely four or five, while the other is in her early twenties and has been caring for the younger one. And, these subjects are the first to survive the conversion process, though the child's screaming during the procedure indicates that it was extremely agonizing. The older one went into shock upon seeing what was being done to her sister, and I barely managed to keep her alive. Still, the conversion was a success. The child has been given the name Cyborg Eleven, and the adult has been named Cyborg Twelve."

You turn the page.

"Finally, Numbers Eleven and Twelve are complete," the journal tells you. "I decided to see how well the pair would function as energy absorption models. I considered giving them perpetual energy, but were I to do so, I will not have been able to program them with behavioral control. As a result, the two are entirely obedient to my commands. They also seem to function properly, however, they have started at very low levels of strength, and it would take them a great deal of time to siphon the proper amount of energy to complete their task. So, I have deactivated them both."

You look away from the journal as Bulma enters the room, carrying the fruit from the Tree of Might.

"Here you are, Kaguya," she tells you, handing you the fruit.

>A. Thank her

>B. Go home

>C. Find Goku

>D. Ask if you can keep the journal

>E. Read on Android 19

>F. Read on Android 20

>G. Something else
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>>38685187

>A. Thank her

>C. Find Goku

>D. Ask if you can keep the journal

We should make sure that deactivate = terminate by asking 16 about it. Ah Dr. Gero, you monster you.
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her

>B. Go home
get 16 to train us up when at home
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her
>C. Find Goku
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>>38685153
I...I want to make this game
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her
>C. Find Goku
>D. Ask if you can keep the journal
Can we unlock her ki sense and ki utilization abilities?
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her
>C. Find Goku
>D. Ask if you can keep the journal
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her
>C. Find Goku
>G. Something else
"Take care"
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>>38685187
>A. Thank her
>D. Ask if you can keep the journal
>C. Find Goku
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>>38685187
A, C, and D.

"I want to see if 16 has any information about these other projects that isn't in here."
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>>38685187

Wonder what happened to cyborgs 11 and 12.

Original characters, however both deactivated.

Mindfucked too.
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>>38685352
Oh and add "Bulma, once we beat Cell we'll get everyone he killed back, including Vegeta."
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>>38685380
aawww, do we have to
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>>38685282
>Can we unlock her ki sense and ki utilization abilities?
Why would we?
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>>38685398
Since the wish would be to revive everyone killed by or while fighting Cell he would come back. First time by the Earth Dragonballs.
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>>38685398
Yes.

She wants the V.
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>>38685438
You mean the VD?
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>>38685187
Huh. I wanna read about 19 and 20, but I guess it isn't happening.

Ask for a copy of the two Journals.

Find Goku, give the fruit to Gohan

Go spar with Chiaotzu

Make sure we keep hiding Senzu beans all over the place in case our bag gets wrecked.
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>>38685438
She wants V to give her the D.
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>>38685366
That's what I want to ask 16 about. Hopefully they haven't been scrapped and we can clear out their programing. If not, then it's a shame but there's at least some hope.
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>>38685438
Excuse me sirs, are you late on your dose for today?
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>>38685402
For experimentation and research? Surely scientists would be able to give us some new insights into ki and ki utilization, so why wouldn't we?
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>>38685503
You better not be that Yams guy from the first thread.
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>>38685250
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>>38685380
"Thanks, Bulma, take care," you tell her.

She smiles. "You too. Train hard."

You nod turning to leave, but stopping. "And Bulma, once we beat Cell, we'll get everyone he killed back, including Vegeta."

She nods.

"Oh, can I keep this journal?" you ask. "I want to see if Sixteen has any information that isn't included here."

"Of course, it's all yours," she tells you.

With that, you leave Capsule Corp, taking to the sky and sensing for Goku. To your surprise, he's alone and heading right for you. Flying his way, the two of you meet up just outside the city.

"Hey, Kaguya!" he greets.

>A. Ask what he's doing here

>B. Ask if he wants to train

>C. Tell him you have to leave

>D. Go home

>E. Something else
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>>38685524
what is it with you and the yams guy? he just wanted a bunch of sexy femdroids around.
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>>38685541
Get him to give the fruit to Gohan.

Ask if he wants to train.
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>>38685541

>A. Ask what he's doing here
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>>38685541
>A. Ask what he's doing here
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>>38685541
>A. Ask what he's doing here
>B. Ask if he wants to train
>E. Something else
"Guessing you sensed Cell on the Lookout"
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>>38685541
>A. Ask what he's doing here
>E. Have him give the fruit to Gohan to eat
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>>38685541
>A. Ask what he's doing here

>B. Ask if he wants to train
or at least if he has any ideas considering he actually knows how to do it properly
also tell him to stay away from the farm for a while due to 16 needing to work some issues out
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>>38685550
Different anon but he also wanted the quest to be his own personal wish fulfillment up to and including having the MC named after him.
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so we're just going to waste the fruit then?
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>>38685640
Giving the fruit to Gohan is not a waste.
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>>38685541

>A. Ask what he's doing here

>B. Ask if he wants to train

"Sorry I didn't train with you guys as much as I wanted to today but it seemed like I would only slow you down until I closed the gap with these cuffs some more."
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>>38685640
Wouldnt Super Saiyans benefit the most due to PL multiplication
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>>38685541
"Guessing you sensed Cell on the Lookout. We're okay, but he did blow up the Hyperbolic Time Chamber." Then ask if everything is okay, and if so ask if he wants to train some.
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>>38685541
>B. Ask if he wants to train
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>>38685541
>A. Ask what he's doing here
Let's hold off on asking if he wants to train until we know he doesn't have a conversation to potentially hold.
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>>38685524
No, I joined here shortly after Garlic Jr was dealth with. I just really like the idea of helping humanity "ascend", in a way.
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>>38685640
Giving it to Gohan is one of the best things we can do with it. Eating it ourselves is a gamble because we don't know if it will effect our overall power (which will just be a drop in a bucket) or effect our cuffed power (which will be a monsoon in a bucket). Gohan is the safer bet because any benefit he gains will be multiplied by his transformations.
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>>38685661
assuming the fruit gives aroun 70k increase in PL and gohan goes SSJ2 he gets 7 million increase from the fruit. That's around 5,8 % of Friezas PL. It's not very much.
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>>38685737
The fruit woud work better as a kickstart to start the training of someone not in the millions of normal PL.
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>>38685810
Like us right now if it boosts us based on the cuffs?
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>>38685737
Yet it's more than what giving it to anyone else will accomplish. Giving it to Roshi is a silly joke that wouldn't have any actual benefits, giving it to Icarus makes our dragon a bit stronger but he'll never be a main combatant anyway. Our friends will get as little out of it as we will. If we don't give it to Gohan none of the other saiyans will eat it. If the fruit doesn't do anything for Gohan it would do even less for ourselves.

>>38685810
No not really. If they were human it wouldn't do anything to speed up breaking past their limits since it's artificially increasing their strength. If we wanted to use it for Goten Trunks or Tarble or something maybe it would help with that, but that's a long time to hold on to a fruit that will only be effective as plot demands.
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>>38685859
I don't think it works like that. Cuffs are essentially weighted training gear.
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>>38685737
>70k increase
Why wouldn't it boost us by a flat percentage of our current max instead?
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"Hey, Goku, what are you doing here?" you ask. "Guessing you sensed Cell on the Lookout. Everyone's okay, but he did blow up the Hyperbolic Time Chamber."

Goku nods. "I sensed Cell. We were going to come to the Lookout, but he left pretty quickly. It's a shame about the Time Chamber, but I came about your training."

"Yeah, sorry I didn't train with you guys as much as I wanted to," you tell him. "But it seemed like I would only slow you down until I closed the gap with these cuffs some more."

"Kaguya, your power increases by fighting stronger opponents," Goku reminds you. "Training with us would have made you stronger faster."

He gives you a serious look. "But, your cuff training isn't the only thing I want to talk about. Kaguya, what drives you to fight?"

>A. The desire to be stronger

>B. The desire to protect others

>C. The pain of loss

>D. You're not sure

>E. Why?
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>>38685872
It could jump start us, and giving it to Roshi might get him back in the game. I could very well see him becoming Super Human in a day, since his teachings were based on breaking past a person's normal limits.
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>>38685910
>A. The desire to be stronger
>B. The desire to protect others
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
because its the right thing to do
>E. Why?
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>>38685737
>70k increase
Lets give it to Satan
>>38685910
>>B. The desire to protect others
Also
To test how strong I am
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>>38685910
>>B. The desire to protect others
>>C. The pain of loss
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>>38685910
>A. The desire to be stronger
>B. The desire to protect others
>C. The pain of loss
In a way, they've all been motivation for us. But which has motivated us the most?
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>>38685872
humans get gains in an exponential curve that plateaus when we reach the level we're aiming for. Any human we give it to gets the first year of their training cut from them simply by giving them a higher starting point. if you're against roshi then give it to videl.
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
>A. The desire to be stronger
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>>38685910
If I'm being completely honest there is some of a desire to be stronger, but it is mainly a desire to protect Earth and those I care about.
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>>38685910
>B
>A

>>38685983
Knowing Videl she wouldn't take it. She would rather earn it. Don't blame her.
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>>38685910
>A. The desire to be stronger
"It's fun fighting stronger opponents, even if the outcome seems bleak, I can't help but seem excited sometimes"
>B. The desire to protect others
"But at the same time I know if I'm not able to beat my opponent that they might hurt the people I care about. I'm willing to give them the chance to change their ways, but I also can't stand there and let them do what they want"
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
>C. The pain of loss
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
>C. The pain of loss

"I was born with the power to make a difference. If I just closed my eyes and let the world run its course then the people I care about would be hurt or killed. Just like Raditz killed Carl."

>A. The desire to be stronger

"and if I'm being honest, I like being able to make a difference and help my friends so they can too."
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>>38686025
This
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>>38685910
>A. The desire to be stronger

>B. The desire to protect others
"I can't just stand back knowing full well that peoples lives are in dager....expecially if there is something I can do about it."
>E. Why?
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>>38685910
>>E. Why?
Nobody's asking why? Seriously, this is a weird as hell question to ask someone.
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>>38686107
It's Goku, he asks that kind of shit from time to time. He's probably wondering if he should leave beating Cell to us or Gohan.
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>>38686025
Second
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>>38686025
thirded
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>>38686132
Probably wondering if he should let Gohan and us fight Cell first together
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>>38686025
forthed
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>>38685910
B with some A. Then E. Is everything alright?
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>>38685910

Better question: What is worth fighting for?
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>>38685910
>A. The desire to be stronger
for the purpose of
>B. The desire to protect others
from
>C. The pain of loss
>E. Why?
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>>38686200
Mom's cooking
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>>38686200
Even better question
Who is stronger, the person who has nothing to lose, or the person fighting for something?
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>>38686221
It's why Nappa fights with us.
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>>38685910
>B. The desire to protect others
>C. The pain of loss
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>>38686230
in a world where PLs are a thing the question is kind of moot. unless you're proposing we SCIENCE the question.
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>>38685921
don't forget as was pointed out in the previous thread he blew up the moon with a PL under 150. that guy hits WAY over his PL
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>>38686251
I think you've blinded yourself to PL's not mattering at all. Notice Goku and the others usually always get stronger when they need to protect something from the latest big bad and everything is on the line. They then kick in the enemy's shit. Powerlevel's mean jack beyond "This guy is 2stronk u need train".
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>>38686025
>>38686138
>>38686149
>>38686071
"It's fun to fight strong opponents, even if the outcome seems bleak," you tell him. "I can't help but feel excited by it."

Goku smiles. "I know the feeling."

"But, at the same time, I know that, if I'm not able to beat my opponents, they might hurt people I care about," you continue. "I'm willing to give them a chance to change their ways, but I also can't stand there and let them do what they want."

He nods. "I understand."

"Why are you asking me this?" you ask.

"Because it seems like whatever's driving you, well, it's not driving you as much as it normally does," Goku answers. "You spent a day doing training that got you much less of an increase in power than you could have gotten. After today, we only have a week until the Cell Games. You say that you want to protect others, then that means you have to give it everything you have."

He stares at you. "I know what you're capable of, I know how hard you can push yourself, but today, you just kind of goofed off. And right now, we can't afford that sort of thing. Not when you're one of our best chances at beating Cell."

>A. Tell him that you were training hard

>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances

>C. What about Gohan?

>D. Something else
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>>38685872
The fruit would never make a noticeable difference in anyone that is already significantly strong. So it either goes to someone weak, or it gets wasted on someone that could train the difference up in a day.
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>>38686358
>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances
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>>38686358
>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances
>C. What about Gohan?

How many threads did this day cover, again?
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>>38686358
"Kaguya, I am dissappoint."
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>>38686342

That's more a part of the genre convention rather than how it actually works, isn't it? I mean, DBZ kind of a forerunner in that regard, but still.

Using PL alone as something to measure the outcome of battles is a pitfall that villains fall for in DBZ, but it's still a useful metric.
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>>38686358
>A. Tell him that you were training hard
>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances
>C. What about Gohan?
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>>38686380
Like I said, who says that the Fruit gives a flat PL increase and doesn't work on a percentage of the max PL of the one who ingests it instead?
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>>38686358
>>D. Something else
ask him to increase the energy in the cuffs again.
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>>38686358
>A. Tell him that you were training hard
>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances
>C. What about Gohan?
>D. Something else
"I couldn't move at the time and Videl arrived, she was pretty much helping me get used to these cuffs while I taught her a bit. But I'm trying with Kazume for the entire day tomorrow, I should be able to be back at my normal pl at night or close to it."
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>>38686358
>A. Tell him that you were training hard
>C. What about Gohan?
i didn't want to hold everyone else progress back.
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>>38686421
because it holds a small portion of the energy of the world. it doesn't unlock anything inside.
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>>38686421
Dralo indicated as much and since it didn't to shit when we gave it to Gohan in the possible future thread it pretty much confirmed that it isn't a % based power up.
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>>38686421
Well, it gives the one who consumes it all the energy it absorbed from the planet. I don't see why it wouldn't increase your power by that specific amount.
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>>38686358
>A. Tell him that you were training hard

>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances

>C. What about Gohan?

>D. Something else
We should explain to him why we came to Capsule Corp and what we talked to Bulma about aswell.
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>>38686358
>D. Something else
"Because I am waiting for Android 13 to arrive before the timeskip. It wouldn't be interesting to for it to just be grinding away all day."
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>>38686358

>A. Tell him that you were training hard

>B. Ask why he thinks you're one of the best chances

>C. What about Gohan?
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>>38686358
>D. Something else
"Tell that to the people who voted for training small then. You try having 50 people in your head with different opinions and short attention spans guide your actions and see how efficient you are."
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we could keep increasing the amount of power in the cuffs everytime we start being able to move.
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>>38686533
It doesn't matter we are just timeskipping for max gains after 13.
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>>38686561
it does matter for tomorrow and the fight against 13
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>>38686358
A, B, C, and ask if he can put a little more energy in the cuffs. And point out that we could barely move less than 12 hours ago. We would have been in the way today. We had to relearn how to walk. Then mention we're training with Kazuma all day tomorrow, so hopefully one of us figures out how to take these off before the Cell Games.
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>>38686495
>>38686521
Besides even if we train our absolute hardest we won't be allowed to be more powerful than a certain point.

>>38686561
Yep we'll hit the power cap one way or another. Or we won't and Cell wins, GG no Re shoulda voted different or something.
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>>38686521
>>38686495
We aren't Frank, we don't know we have a bunch of people controlling us.
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>>38686593
Pretty much, DRALO said 'close to Cell' and I think that's best we are going to get even if we try to exploit the fuck out of the cuffs.

>>38686619
It was a joke
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>>38686619
Right, we're just joking around and venting. Dralo having the NPCs get mad at us for shit we can't control is dumb and after Cell waiving his dick in our face last thread it seems poorly timed.
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>>38686385
>>38686386
>>38686396
>>38686435
>>38686486
>>38686516
"I am training hard," you promise. "I couldn't move at all for a while, and Videl had to help me get used to the cuffs. I'm training with Kazuma all day tomorrow, though, so I should be at my normal strength, or close to it, tomorrow night."

Goku smiles. "That's the spirit. If you can manage that, then I think Cell's in a lot of trouble."

"Why do you think I'm one of you best hopes of winning?" you ask.

"What do you mean? You've always been fighting the strongest opponents, and beaten fighters the rest of us couldn't," Goku tells you. "We would have lost to Vegeta if it weren't for you, you defeated Frieza twice, helped beat Androids 19 and 20, and beat Garlic Junior. You save the day a lot, and you're one of the strongest out of us."

"What about Gohan?" you ask.

Goku smiles proudly. "Gohan's an amazing fighter, and, to tell you a secret, he's even stronger than I am. But, I think if you're both prepared, we have a better chance."

He floats higher into the air. "Well, goodnight, Kaguya, I gotta get home or Chi Chi will get mad."

He flies away, leaving you floating outside the city.

>A. Go home

>B. Go to the Lookout

>C. Go to sleep

>D. Eat dinner

>E. Go to Kazuma's house

>F. Go to Billy's house

>G. Go to Haya's house

>H. Something else
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>>38686709
>B. Go to the Lookout
time to train!
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>>38686709
>>C. Go to sleep
>>D. Eat dinner
Call it a day, lets move on
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>>38686709
H. Time to find out if Senzu Beans overwrite sleep deprivation.
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>>38686709
>A. Go home
>D. Eat dinner
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>>38686709

>A. Go home

>H. Something else

Ask 16 if he will spar with us and ask him about 11 and 12 while we do so.
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>>38686709
>A. Go home
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>>38686709
>A. Go home
>D. Eat dinner
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>>38686709
>A. Go home
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>>38686358
>"Because it seems like whatever's driving you, well, it's not driving you as much as it normally does"

>>38686709
Is it possible for us to do some type of meditation, to find what drives us, and make that drive stronger?
Or would that just be more goofing off?
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>>38686784
it was a not so subtle hint that we shouldn't be fucking around by the QM
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>>38686784
Considering that "Drive" comes down to what you guys decide to do, it wouldn't be much use
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>>38686709
Seconding >>38686758
and also
>D. Eat dinner
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>>38686806
>>38686812
Oh. sorry. Got a bit too IC for a moment.
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>>38686784
The statement really means nothing.

>>38686812
I'll apologize. We are sorry we used the P Room instead of grinding away at those levels as soon as we could walk. Next time we will forego all character interaction and do the same spars over and over again.
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>>38686806
One wonders about player agency.
Yes, we obviously have choices, but will our choices affect the gameworld?
I suppose I shouldn't complain. IC, beating Cell is far more important than any other character interactions or gaining knowledge about anything else.
But I'm a bit bummed that our choices are basically limited to "Give it our all training for Cell. Not a single minute wasted." or "Die. Your choices ultimately changed nothing."
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>>38686862
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that working on making your drive stronger is pretty ineffectual when it still just comes down to what's voted on
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>>38686926
I was apologizing in response to Goku (You) berating us.
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>>38686915
Then again, all I have to do is remember a certain other quest to remind myself what complete lack of player agency ACTUALLY looks like, and thank Dralo for the opportunities he (or she) has given us so far.

Still a bit worried though. I know we've made bad choices, but have we screwed ourselves so thoroughly to the point where Cell is now a death sentence?
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>>38686959
there are still plenty of ways to break the system. DRALO just has officially said no to some of them.
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>>38686959
No, but right now, you're weaker than he is, so if you want to win with as little suffering as possible, you need to train as best you can
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>>38686959
I'm pretty sure we'll be at the 50/50 level we were told. It's just that we as a player base didn't realize that going from weaker opponents to stronger opponents with the cuffs was such a suboptimal choice, we had assumed that just going for the most powerful sparring partner wouldn't speed up our improvement any and would slow their improvement.
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>>38687006
Then thats doing the damn Kaz plan we wanted to implement last thread, taking the cuffs off, having them catch up to us Superhuman style, then putting stronger cuffs on, rinse repeat.

We have our plan, whats the issue?
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>>38686709
Find Piccolo.

Try and talk to him like we would with Kami.
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>>38687043
This, and the IC thing was worrying about being the way. Also, if we hadn't dicked around we might not have the Pendulum Room anymore, since Cell would have gone to destroy it anyways.
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>>38687094
but the pendulum room is useless for training at this point beyond abusing it to learn the techniques of people in the past.
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>>38686958
Relax anon, it makes sense to me that if the best hope for victory slacked off, someone would bring it up to him.
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>>38686959
I've been with this quest from the start, and I actually used to complain in the first few threads, but I've definitely warmed up to Dralo quickly. I think I remember them saying this was their first quest, and I think they've improved a lot since the start. And I'm sure even some more experienced QMs might be burnt out by now after close to 100 threads.

>or she
Now I'm imagining Dralo as a scaly fire breathing Jay Lo. Thanks, anon. That is an awesome mental image.
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>>38687132
>J. Lo
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>>38686733
>>38686744
>>38686758
>>38686768
>>38686769
>>38686775
You decide that it's time to head home, and fly back as fast as you can, pushing yourself to move faster. You're pretty tired when you get home because of this, but you think that it gave you a little boost in speed.

To your delight, you made it home just in time for dinner, and sit down along with your parents, Nappa, Icarus, and Sixteen to a delicious meal. You all discuss the day's events, and Nappa tells you about his training with Goku and Gohan.

"Kakarot's kid's gotten strong," Nappa comments. "I'd say he's almost as strong as Kakarot and I, now."

"Hey Sixteen, can we spar after dinner?" you ask.

The Android stares at you silently for a few moments, seeming to be considering something, before giving you a nod.

"Very well, I will await you outside," he announces, rising from his seat and moving outside.

Soon finishing your own dinner, you follow.

"You wish to increase your power level quickly by fighting with me, do you not?" Sixteen asks.

>A. Yes, that's it

>B. Charge and try to land a hit

>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12

>D. Ask what his thoughts are about the Cell Games

>E. Something else
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>>38687208
>A
>B
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>>38687208
>A. Yes, that's it
>B. Charge and try to land a hit
>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12
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>>38687208
>A. Yes, that's it
>>B. Charge and try to land a hit
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>>38687074
Doing it.

>>38687122
Or, you know, training against the people who you'll be fighting soon, or training against yourself before you put the cuffs on.
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>>38687208
>>A. Yes, that's it
>>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12
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>>38687208
Why aren't we fighting Nappa?
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>>38687208
>>A. Yes, that's it

>B. Charge and try to land a hit

>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12
While fighting.
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>>38687208
>A. Yes, that's it
>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12

"I also recently got a hold of Dr. Gero's journal. I know 17 and 18 aren't the only cyborg types he's made and since we can only help them by killing Cell I was wondering if there was any way to help 11 and 12 unless he was using a euphemism for killing them in his notes."
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>>38687254
Nappa is fun. We should train with him. OG Super Saiyan!
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>>38687254
So he can rest and we can ask about Gero's mad science. Hopefully we can convince 16 to have his bomb removed to. But we want to do all that while getting stronger.
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>>38687254
Unless I misread (and I do from time to time) the votes were to spar with Sixteen so you could ask him about other Androids
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>>38687132
Dragoness Lopez as my creature is now my most wanted feature for a Black&White remake.
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>>38687241
>Doing it.
Can't when Cell burns a thread gloating

>Or, you know, training against the people who you'll be fighting soon,
We nearly got instagibbed by Raditz. I thought the whole thing was to have a challenge not flail at Semi-Perfect Cell

>Training against yourself before you put the cuffs on.

That could have worked but its the same thing as working with Kaz and it frees the P Room for other people.
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>>38687254
we can't land a single hit on nappa and at this stage we need to fight 16, ourself in the pendulum room, kazuma, perfect cell in the pendulum room (before he blew up the HTC, I'm sure he'd be amused to swat us down a few times) and gohan
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>>38687208
>A. Yes, that's it
>B. Charge and try to land a hit
>C. Ask about Androids 11 and 12
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We've just fucked around the past three threads despite plans to fight kaz being in the works for a long time
What's up with that

DRALO mentioned "timeskip assuming maximum gains" last thread which I assume we can only underperform on by not doing that. It's not like we're learning new techniques. We need gains and we need them now. Instead we've fucked around.
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>>38687208
A, C, D, then B.
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>>38687334
have you not read the threads at all? the stronger the enemy the better the gains for trying to hit him.
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>>38687308
DRALO you should probably make it clear what you meant back a few threads about flailing around because apparently some people didn't quite understand what you meant by it.
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>>38687436
Kaz plan came into effect last thread which was burned by Cell being an ass. Then seeing as he has to go home we burned this thread reading.
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>>38687450
Back to my original question then - WHY aren't we fighting Nappa?
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>>38687479
>we burned this thread reading
Instead of, say, FIGHTING NAPPA OR GOHAN

Goku was right and did nothing wrong
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>>38687436
>We've just fucked around the past three threads
That's because we've had thread after thread where the only plot point is "train".

Even in Drag On ball Z, they timeskipped around the training montages. I say we do the Android 13 movie, do the cell games, and let all the training we do in the mean time happen in the background.
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>>38687480
because people are stupid and democracy is broken my friend.
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>>38687497
He kept offering the Capsule Corp. Thought there would be something there. There wasn't.
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>>38687480
Have you actually read the responses? 16 is far enough beyond us that we should be able to make significant gains while talking to him. If we catch up to him by the time we finish our conversation we can switch to Nappa.

>>38687497
If only Cell didn't eat up 8 hours of in day time slowly blowing up the HBTC.
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>>38687505
>where the only plot point is "train".
And where we've consistently not trained decently. >hurr gonna work with videl instead of gohan :)
>hurr gonna go fight raditz :)
>gonna go talk to bardock :)
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>>38687524
>If only Cell didn't eat up 8 hours of in day time slowly blowing up the HBTC.
Yeah he talked reallllly slowlllly didn't he.
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>>38687506
>Democracy
down
down
down
down
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>>38687520
yeah it was a bit of a get backstory or train kind of thing and my eternal lust for knowledge got the best of me.
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>>38687544
DRALO is too busy masturbating to Cell. It's a waste when we're supposed to be getting gains to dedicate your thread to >KEEP READING and >CONTINUE TALKING
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>>38687542
Thats why next time we should just get rid of all character development and just do

>A. Charge
>B. Defend.
>C. Kamehameha

for like 10 threads.
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>>38687581
No, no. I like the idea of letting our friends and self die just so we can have some exposition and backstory.
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>>38687556
You have some Eternal Lust for Knowledge bro?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/DragonBallCell
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/DragonBallZ

Have fun bro!
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KEEP READING
PUSH THROUGH
YOU FEEL GREAT
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>>38687233
>>38687235
>>38687237
>>38687249
>>38687264
>>38687272
>>38687419
>>38687437
"Yes, that's it," you tell Sixteen, gathering every little bit of energy you can muster before rushing right at him.

You've never seen Sixteen fight before, so you aren't sure how much stronger he is than you. For that reason, you assume that each punch or kick could be the one that finally strikes him, you truly believe that his level is one you can catch up to, and your power level rises quickly to help you affirm those beliefs.

"Sixteen, do you know about Androids Eleven and Twelve?" you ask as you continue your attacks.

"I do not know of any of the models prior to myself," Sixteen tells you as he continues to evade your attacks. "However, Eighteen mentioned that Doctor Gero told her that he deactivated all models before myself."

You keep attacking, your strikes growing strong and faster by the second as you fight with everything you have in your effort to catch up with Sixteen.

"Yes, very good," Sixteen comments as he continues to dodge. "Your power is rising at an impressive speed."

You keep striking as fast as you can, continuing for several minutes before you manage to successfully land a punch to Sixteen's face, causing him to take a step back, smiling when you pull your hand back.

"Well done," he compliments.

>A. Ask if he wants to keep sparring

>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on

>C. Go find Nappa

>D. Go to bed

>E. Find Kazuma and start training early

>F. Go to Billy's house

>G. Go to Haya's house

>H. Go to Gohan's house, try to convince him to sneak out for some training

>I. Something else
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>>38687627
>tvtropes

NO. I JUST GOT OFF OF THERE, GODDAMMIT. YOU CAN'T SEND ME BACK.
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Man I think I realized what happened. Vegeta wasn't a Salt Generator, he was a Salt Containment Unit. Now the Salt has no where to go but the player base. Even if I am one of the salty ones.

>>38687627
He probably meant in character, since using meta knowledge is often frowned upon.
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>>38687663
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on
>>C. Go find Nappa
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>>38687663
>>A. Ask if he wants to keep sparring
Fuck talking

SPAR
SPAR
SPAR
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>>38687663
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on
>C. Go find Nappa
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>>38687627
read both. I actually see more pages I've already read than not.
>>38687663
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on
>C. Go find Nappa and spart with him
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>>38687663
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on
>C. Go find Nappa
If he's not tired. If he is let's go spar ourselves in the pendulum room.
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>>38687663
>C. Go find Nappa
We need to fight. If he's uninterested:
>E. Find Kazuma and start training early
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>>38687663
>C. Go find Nappa
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>>38687722
>If he is let's go spar ourselves in the pendulum room.
seconding. fuck exposition
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>>38687675
>NO. I JUST GOT OFF OF THERE, GODDAMMIT. YOU CAN'T SEND ME BACK.
:-)
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>>38687663
>A. Ask if he wants to keep sparring
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on
and
>E. Find Kazuma and start training early
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>>38687663
>You've never seen Sixteen fight before, so you aren't sure how much stronger he is than you. For that reason, you assume that each punch or kick could be the one that finally strikes him, you truly believe that his level is one you can catch up to, and your power level rises quickly to help you affirm those beliefs.

Pfft okay sure. Can barely beat Raditz. Thinks he can beat an android near the same level as 17 and 18.

Fuck if I knew Kags was that delusional I wouldn't have needed to add the whole Kaz furthering goalpost part of that plan.
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>>38687663
>B. Ask if he'd be willing to go to Capsule Corp to be operated on

>C. Go find Nappa
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>>38687802
how the hell is Kaguya delusionals if he was right?
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>>38687829
SUPERHUMAN FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL CYBORGS
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>>38687829
Imagine. We could have gotten to this level without talking to Videl more than once.
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So anyone else want to use the pendulum room to go to when Cell was about to blow it up? We then dare him to train us until we can beat him. Find out if the perfect teacher can train an even more perfect student.
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>>38687829

What part of super human do you not understand? The whole point of it is being able to pull off this kind of bullshit.
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>>38687829
I know, I know. I'll stop using logic. For some reason I thought a Superhuman needed a challenge or something. Not just a super powerful dude to wail on.
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>>38687863
Or you know make DRALO speed up the training like he did here, where it actually took minutes to catch up to android 16, but we spend about half a thread to get close to at least popo's power level.
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>>38687892
After Kazuma and Nappa.
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>>38687897
you'll note that's what I was implying when I was answering the other anons incredulity.
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>>38687908
I have a feeling he's stalling because he wants the backstory stuff.
But side stories can come afterwards, COME ON
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While we're waiting for Dralo to update, now that I think about it I've never seen any of the Dragon Ball or DBZ movies, how are they?
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>>38687892
Eventually we're going to cuffspar with Tournament Grounds Cell, whether pendulum or not.
That way, when the gloves come off, SUPARHUMEN!!1!1! U FEEL GR8! U CAN DO DIS!1! U CN WIN!
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>>38687892
waste of time. all we need to do is fight people and have people keep inserting energy into these cuffs of ours.
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>>38687949
from stupidly amazing to amazingly stupid.
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Goddamnit DRALO balance your powers. It took us mere minutes to go from Raditz to 16. If we keep doing to cuff thing whenever we get powerful enough and rinse repeat your special Cell SHOULD be fucked before even the 8th day rolls around.
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>>38687979
No. Fuck it. We need gains and we need them bow.
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HOLY FUCK!!? Like, isn't 16 about semi perfect cell level strength? We can can we keep up with that WITH THE CUFFS ON?

Super 13 is in for a rude awakening.
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>>38687979
he'll just pull another multiform and just say it stopped giving you gains.
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>>38687901
Our best gains have always come from the opponent dodging a flurry of our attacks until we finally hit and beam battles. Just the way it is.

>>38687943
Hell I want the back story stuff too. I'm more interested in interacting with OCs and exploring parts of the DB world we haven't already seen in the original. It's just the mixed signals that make us want to ignore all that and play out training scenes instead makes me cranky.

>>38687955
Agreed.
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>>38687979
>Implying Cell isn't making Cell Jrs and Cuffing himself to get stronger after noticing our cuffs (you know he did)
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>>38687979
16 said we're growing in power fast, not that we're close to him.
'Fast' to 16 could mean anywhere from slow to anyone else, to extremely fast. Judging from the sparring match with Popo, it probably means the former.
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>>38687992
I agree. What I am saying by the scale of time it took to power up right there we SHOULD be more than a match for Cell before the Cell games even start.
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>>38687696
>>38687706
>>38687713
>>38687722
>>38687728
>>38687757
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>>38687815
"So, Sixteen, would you be willing to go back to Capsule Corp to be operated on?" you ask.

"Operated on? For what purpose?" Sixteen asks.

You explain about the explosive device he has implanted within himself, and how Bulma and her dad want to remove it in order to keep it from hurting anyone.

"The explosive can only be activated by me, or a remote created by Doctor Gero," Sixteen tells you. "I wish to keep the explosive, just in case Cell proves too much to defeat otherwise. No matter how powerful he has become, he will not survive the explosion the device can create. When Cell is gone, I will have it removed if you wish."

You thank Sixteen for helping you train and go to Nappa, who is just now emerging from the house. You quickly ask if he wants to spar.

He smirks. "Sure, kid. But I don't plan on just letting you throw punches while I stand around. If you want to spar, we're going to spar, got it?"

>A. Yes

>B. No (find Kazuma and train)

>C. Go to bed

>D. Charge and try to land a hit

>E. Go on the defensive and try to counter

>F. Something else
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>>38688020
Still to be able to hit him after being wreck by Raditz is a huge gap that we crossed.
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>>38688015
Stop that. Bad. Bad anon. Don't give QM evil ideas.
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we must become strong enough to stall 10 minutes with the cuffs on!
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>>38688040
>>B. No (find Kazuma and train)
Then this is pointless.
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>>38688040
>A. Yes
>D. Charge and try to land a hit
>F. Something else
"Wouldn't have it any other way"
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>>38688044
Your attempts against Raditz were charges he quickly evaded or blasts that didn't effect him, then he kept putting you down pretty quickly.
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>>38688040
fuck it
>D. Charge and try to land a hit
keep charging until you need a senzu then keep doing it.
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>>38688040
>A. Yes
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>>38688015

>Cell Jrs are too much of little shits to actually train Cell and just taunt him all day
>Cell get super assravaged and kills them and removes the cuffs
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>>38688040
>>A. Yes
>D. Charge and try to land a hit
GAINS!
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>>38688006
>It's just the mixed signals that make us want to ignore all that and play out training scenes instead makes me cranky.
Fucking...
Alright, so he kept mentioning Capsule, right? I figured that he was hinting that we SHOULD go there. And then we get our ass chewed out by Goku.
>your QM is That Guy
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>>38688040
>A. Yes

If we're anywhere close to being able to keep up with him and close the gap.
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>>38688040
>A. Yes
>D. Charge and try to land a hit
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>>38688040
>A. Yes
>D. Charge and try to land a hit
We're gonna get our asses kicked and it's gonna be AWESOME. Do we have either Senzubag or Senzubeans around here? 'cause we're gonna need a medic.
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>>38688088
The Saiyan way, fight until you almost die, get up and do it again!
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>>38688040
A, C while firing an energy barrage while charging.
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>>38688086
Point still stands. At the rate we just gained energy we should fuck Cell up before the 10 days are up.
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>>38688093
You know, what if a Cell Jr. was born that had all of Cell's snark but none of his dickishness? That would be a neat alternative to the whole reincarnation idea.
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>>38688116
D, not C.
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>>38688145
Cell Jr. better become our Piccolo
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>>38688145
Huh, you know, I like that idea.
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>>38688145
>>38688160
That would be very fun, though for Dralo's sake, I think we have a big enough cast as is.
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>>38688178
Sweet mini me cell is a go!
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>>38687974
Which ones are worth watching?? Which ones should I avoid?
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>>38688225
avoid the cooler and broly sequels
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>>38688178
Nice, I hope it finds traction.

>>38688192
He enjoys writing Cell so much and hell we the players enjoy bantering with him so much I think it could be a worthwhile addition.
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>>38688145
So it is born without Frieza's desire to murder everything, and Goku's and Kaguya's drive protect others? Would it be a dick to Vegeta at all?
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>>38688225
Worth watching:

>World's Strongest

>Dead Zone

>Tree of Might

> Lord Slug

>Cooler's Revenge

>Bardock, Father of Goku

>History of Trunks

>Fusion Reborn

>Bojack Unbound

>Super Android 13

>Battle of Gods

Okay

>Wrath of the Dragon

>Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan

>Episode of Bardock

>Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans

Shit

>Broly Second coming

>Bio-Broly

> Return of Cooler
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>>38688145
>Cell Jr. joins the Great Saiyasentai
Who needs Guldo?
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>>38688145
>We're about to kill Cell
>Cell says "No fuck this, I'm part Piccolo", proceeds to make eggs and launch them as far as he possibly can with his dying explosion
>Most of the eggs are, as you'd expect, right little genocidal bastards
>One of the eggs is only kind of a troll and would rather reprogram someone's VCR or hide their toaster than kill them
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>>38688225
The earlier Dragon Ball movies like Curse of the Blood Rubies and Great Mystical Adventure are great because they're like reimaginings. Path to Power is like that but with much better animation.

For Z, I think Wrath of the Dragon and Battle of the Gods are the best ones to watch for story purposes.
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>He ends up training for the Buu saga martial arts tournament to beat us
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>>38688245
Cell Junior dresses up and plays a supervillain as an excuse to spar with The Great Saiyasenshis

He also goes to the same high school as us dressed up in a human suit a la Invader Zim
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>>38688278
I'm just imagining it born with all the same donor traits but other traits are more dominant than in Cell himself. It could still be arrogant and self assured but it might take some of Frieza's lazyness, some of Vegeta's pride or some of Kaguya's desire to make and protect friends. An erosion of parameters maybe.
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>>38688288
>Episode of Bardock
>okay
I guess, if you can get past the whole going to past thing making absolutely no damn sense.
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>>38687992
>>38687992
IT'S MY KI AND I NEED IT NOOOW!

"Old Kai ki unlocking services! It's your ki, use it when you need it!"
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>>38688314
And then we have a kid, we die fighting our brother, and mini-Cell kidnaps our five year old son to train him for a year to prepare for some aliens who are arriving in a year.
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>>38688367
IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIFE
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>>38688145
How would this be justified? I don't think Cell Jr.s could even talk. I'd say this Cell Jr. was a "defect". Maybe he has a lot more of the DNA of one particular Z fighter over the others and that helps him be not a total asshole.
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>>38688355
>making absolutely no damn sense
Welcome to Dragon Ball.
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>>38688367
Then Pan trains with the children of Yamcha, Krillin, Tien, Chaiotzu, and our other friends.
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>>38688410
You think Chaiotzu is going to have a kid.

Also
>Pan

Thats not how genetics work anon.
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>Jumping in.
Has anyone thought of detonating the explosives inside Cell? Or did he shit them out when he absorbed 17 and 18?
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>>38688389
>How would this be justified?
An imperfect copy removes genocidal tendencies and leaves behind Z Fighter Spirit.
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Just curious, would have training with Piccolo in the beginning of the quest led the quest down a different path?
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>>38688389
They could talk. They said a few words here and there. They were also like a minute old before they started fighting. But yeah just have the carefully cultivated personality parameters the computer set up for Cell not have carried over as well for the Jr. Then have Cell not have cared about it's personality except a desire to fight and obey him.
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>>38688079
>>38688088
>>38688092
>>38688096
>>38688098
>>38688102
>>38688103
"I wouldn't have it any other way," you tell him, rushing towards him as fast as you can.

Nappa grins, dropping into a defensive stance and going Super Saiyan.

As you leap at Nappa and throw a punch, he leans his head back, smirking up at you. You kick downward, but he moves to avoid the strike, appearing behind you.

Spinning, you kick at his face, only to have him duck before bringing his fist up into your gut, sending you flying into the air.

As you are thrown into the sky, you realize that Nappa could have hit you a lot harder. He's not just going to stand around and let you hit him, but he is holding back. And, that means you can catch up with him that much easier.

>A. Rush down and attack again

>B. Throw an energy wave

>C. Kamehameha

>D. Rampage Drive

>E. Land and go on the defensive

>F. Something else
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>>38688457
Nah
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>>38688389
>Maybe he has a lot more of the DNA of one particular Z fighter over the others

Cellin? Well, he does look like a Cell Jr.
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>>38688444
I hope we get a Piccolo-ized Cell Jr. We could have so much fun with that.
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>>38688457
Possibly. You would have had a different relationship with Kami and Piccolo for sure, and might have wound up weaker when the Saiyans arrived due to not understanding what you were
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>>38688475
>F. Do whatever gives max gains. I don't even know anymore what does.
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>>38688475
>A. Rush down and attack again
>F. Something else
Punch and kick faster and stronger
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>>38688475
>A. Rush down and attack again
Use gravity to our advantage
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>>38688436
I'm assuming we don't end up with Videl, since I know some anon's want to avoid that vehemently, since Videl "belongs" to Gohan, and I fully expect them to try and sabatoge any attempts to end up with her.
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>>38688475
>>A. Rush down and attack again
try to use our size and speed to our advantage, stay low and hit hard.
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>>38688475
>A. Rush down and attack again
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>>38688475
>A. Rush down and attack again
"Let's slowly move out to one of the fields okay? Don't want to keep everyone up."

>>38688457
We would have been even closer to Gohan and wouldn't have learned the Dodon Ray, Solar Flare and Multiform technique probably.
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>>38688475
>C. Kamehameha
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>>38688496
>>38688331
>>38688314
>>38688145
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>>38688533
Supporting this.
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>>38688518
If their only reason Videl belongs to Gohan because canon, they should have left this quest a long time ago. We already killed canon and made a Porunga and Shenron do a fusion dance and made a wish that it stayed dead.
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>>38688533
This.
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>>38688475
>>A. Rush down and attack again
>F. Something else
as soon as Nappa decides to kick our ass we take a senzu and keep doing A. until Nappa is incapable of movement.
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>>38688518
I honestly think its just 1 or maybe 2 guys. I'm in the 'whatever makes the most sense' camp and right now that's videl based on what few character interactions we have had.
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>>38688568
It seems that is, since despite maybe saying a total of about 12 words to her, some anons think they have shown chemistry.
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>>38688558
>>38688573
While I wrote that I fully expect our method of transition to be a kick to the stomach courtesy of Nappa.
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>>38688581
agree with this anon. wherever the plot leads us we shall procreate with.
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>>38688581
Either Videl or Haya would make sense to me. I don't care too much. According to Dralo, Haya cares for Kaguya far more than Videl does, though.
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>>38688596
Eh, lets just leave it at that, don't want to start anything that might shit up the thread.
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>>38688581
At this point I'm sure Haya will end up with one of our friends. Sorry Gohan, there's always Erasa,or maybe the Supreme Kai of Time?
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>>38688619
If only anons would let us interact with her more.
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>>38688619
Yeah but I ship KazxHaya
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>>38688629
damn I'd love to waifu the time kai but I just can't see that happening.
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>>38688606
Kicks to the stomach build character. And it's Nappa, so I expected that to.
>>38688629
Erasa said Gohan wasn't his type, anon.
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World Martial Arts Tournament
Final match
Cell Jr. removes the cloak that was disguising his appearance
>You may have destroyed my fool of a father, but don't think for a second you can come close to matching my power
You fight him and it's clear that he's determined and powerful but altogether is just enjoying sparring with a fighter as strong as you
>Tch. Impressive, but I'll be back stronger than ever. Just you wait, I will surpass you as the strongest martial artist on the planet. Next year, okay?
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Cell Junior, what are you doing?
>Using the internet
I know that. What EXACTLY are you doing on the internet?
>Trying to help some kids with their education
How.
>By providing them with information and helping them understand it
Okay. Information on WHAT.
>All right, I admit it, I posted a movie of me melting steel beams with my finger laser to dragon/pol/
Why are you wearing that ridiculous fake nose?
>... No reason
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>>38688610
>plot leads to space travel with Kaguya protecting the galaxy
>Kaguya then proceeds to procreate with multiple species so that there are a lot of protectors of the galaxy after we die


I hope this doesn't happen.
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>>38688670
Wait, if Cell's his dad, doesn't that make us like his uncle?
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>>38688619
That's more on how we are childhood friends and she knows us, Kazume and Billy more than Videl knows us. she would react the same to Kazume and Billy if one of them bite the dust, though Kaguya would probably kill someone if they hurt either Haya,Videl,Gohan, Billy and Kazume regardless of knowing them that long.
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>>38688629
Nope, Billy and Gohan have that on lockdown.
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>>38688698
>Kaguya becomes Captain Kirk

Sweet Mr Satan....
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>>38688701
>Kaguya is a terrible uncle, that is just another limit to br -
Okay, I'll stop.
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>>38688701
>We share DNA, Kaguya. I consider you my annoying older brother.
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>>38688726
You mean Kaz. I don't think Billy actually exists sometimes.
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>>38688759
He's just a young Recoome clone that isn't as ax crazy.
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Would a Cell Jr. grow up to regular perfect Cell size and appearance or would he stay like Krillen size for all his life?
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>>38688759
now that's a plot twist. there were only 2 friends the whole time!
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>>38688629
>Implying Kaguya and Gohan won't decide to take a motorcycle road trip across the world with Kazume and Billy
when their older
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>>38688783
He would probably grow up.
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>>38688783
Of course adult sized.
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>>38688675
Assuming Cell is the normal text.

Why aren't you also hoarding gold in the video? I mean seriously son, you have to really convince them.
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>>38688775
Are you sure he's not a figment of our imagination? I mean his name is just Billy which is odd compared to everyone else..he looks like Recoome...

Are you sure he isnt some Namek PTSD?
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>>38688788
Kazuma's name ends with an 'a' anon.
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>>38688830
He appeared before Namek. Unless...

WE CAN SEE THE FUTURE!
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>>38688830
We met him before we went to Namek, so if he was a figment it's from Raditz PTSD or something else.
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>"So you're Cell Junior, huh?""
>"That's correct."
>"Nice tits."
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>>38688568
I'm not an anti-videl fag, don't really mind what happens, but it still just feels... wrong. I know that it's not canon and we've changed it all up but for me it still feels like we'd be stealing our bro's girl, you know? Maybe I just can't see who else Gohan would hook up with.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CFg7OXKSQc

Quality is kinda shit and its dubbed if that bothers you guys but here the android 13 model.
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>>38688804
>>38688810

Alright, it was more an idle though. Though, i wouldn't mind the adult look.
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>>38688880
guess you'll be able to achieve what your father never could....
female super model
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>>38688509
>>38688511
>>38688523
>>38688529
>>38688533
>>38688558
>>38688573
>>38688579
You rush down towards Nappa as fast as you can, and he laughs, getting ready to block your attack.

However, at the last moment, you move so that you land in a crouch right in front of him. As you rise, you leap and uppercut him in the jaw, causing him to take a step back.

"What do you say we take this somewhere else?" you ask Nappa. "We don't want to keep everyone awake."

He smirks. "Alright."

The next thing you know, Nappa kicks you, sending you flying into the distance and crashing into a nearby field.

You leap back to your feet as Nappa lands, rushing towards him again and attacking as fast as you can, only to be smacked back by the powerful Saiyan. He rushes after you, stomping downward, and you barely manage to evade, leaping at him and throwing another punch.

Nappa leans back, slamming his elbow down onto your back and causing you to hit the ground. You roll out of the way as he stomps down once again, and leap to your feet.

>A. Charge again

>B. Go on the defensive

>C. Kamehameha

>D. Rampage Drive

>E. Something else
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>>38688898
You get some weird vibes man.
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>>38688934
>B. Go on the defensive
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>>38688898
Haya? Her and Videl have very similar personalities, and can see them becoming best friends post Cell Games, or bitter rivals with them both developing feelings for us.
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>>38688909
Not gonna lie. I laughed out loud.
>>38688934
>C. Kamehameha
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>>38688898
Well there was a thread were some of us agreeded we would be fine if Gohan ended up with Haya and Kaguya with Videl, if that happened.
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>>38688934
NEVER STOP CHARGING
A.
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>>38688934
>>B. Go on the defensive
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>>38688909
>"Don't be so droll, Kaguya. I've ascended the limits of a swimsuit model I have become an ascended swimsuit model. Observe."
>He initiates a Perfect catwalk stride
>"YES, Kaguya. Eyes on me, now. Draw your focus to my perfect posture. I feel beautiful. I am beautiful. AhA HAHA HA HA"
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Rolled 1 (1d4)

>>38688934
>>A. Charge again
>>B. Go on the defensive
>>C. Kamehameha
>>D. Rampage Drive
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>>38688934
>B. Go on the defensive

>>38688898
The only reason I'm uncomfortable with it, is because it puts another tick on the "Shitty fan fiction MC" scale for Kaguya.
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>>38688934
A, by firing an energy beam to propel us forward.
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>>38688990
dice wants to charge and so do I.
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>>38688990
TRUST THE DICE

A
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>>38688934
>>C. Kamehameha
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>>38688934
>B. Go on the defensive
>>38688991
Well Kaguya was already a mary sue from the beginning since he never had limits and could awaken them in others.
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>>38689023
being a mary sue isn't about being powerful. it's being capable of solving any problem without any apparent effort on the characters part.
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>>38688898
On the bright side, if we do end up with Videl, we can convince her to keep her hair long.
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>>38688991
This was always a shitty fan fic. But it's our shitty fan fic.
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>>38689065
So Perfect Cell.
>>
Am I kawaii senpai
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>>38689073
How is that in anyway a bright side? She looks awful with pigtails.
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>>38689084
pretty much. you could argue that the cell saga is trying to kill a mary sue toriyamas editor had.
>>38689113
free flowing long hair is best.
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>>38689093
GOOD GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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>>38689073
Eh, but then we won't get to have her show her hidden feelings then get angry at Kaguya when he explains the reason was for fighting better.
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>>38689113
>awful
>Get a load of this guy cam.jpg
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Well whoever we go after, I believe we should ask advice from Yamcha on how to have the perfect date. He probably broke that limit a long time ago.
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>>38689093
You can do far better than that anon, I'm ashamed.
>>38689129
This better?
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>>38689166
Short hair Videl is best Videl. Long hair plebs need not apply.
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>>38689168
We only just recently wished away his fear of girls, didn't we?
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>>38689175
Compared to the other one, this one is pure beauty personified.
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>>38688288
>Wrath of the Dragon
>only an "Okay"
Really?
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>>38689168
Which reminds me, how should we go about Operation:Yamcha and Miss.Piiza
>>38689195
Yes, but he did date bulma before and some other girls
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DRALO do you have anything against Celli?
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>>38689175
I wouldn't mind going in her tail, if ya know what I'm saiyan.
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>>38689207
It probably depends on how much you dislike Kid Trunks. I liked it when I first saw it because I liked Tapion for whatever reason. Dat ocarina theme probably.
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>>38689183
How about medium length hair?
>>
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>>38689262
she looks like she has the combat capacity of a emaciated hooker on meth.
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so I believe we have come to the conclusion that we must ask Shenron to rule63 cell jr and waifu the result.
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>>38689282
Well she is in her imperfect form
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>>38689256
Slightly more acceptable. Battle of Gods Videl was different but okay.
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>>38689221
The blue....

Jesus, people in this thread want to turn the Cell Jr. idea into another pontential waifu don't they?
>>38689243
Sentient or not, that's a bug, anon. I don't think the anatomy is compatible. Besides, cell only wants perfection.
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>>38689301
I have low expectations for her perfect form.
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>>38689298
Yeah no. Most of these are hideous.

>>38689314
It pains me. Cell would make a terrible romantic interest.
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>>38689314
a woman is only perfect after marriage.
#SuperFeminism
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>>38689298
Or have Nappa marry then find out his daughter is a bit yandere for Kaguya, since she is Cell reincarnated.
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>>38689249
I like it because it's one of the few that feels paced like an actual movie and not just a little buildup to a battle that takes up most of the movie.
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>>38689331
>Most
Anon wants to fuck one of the bugs!
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>>38689360
Pure Waifu
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>>38689010
>>38688999
>>38688990
>>38689002
>>38688974
You rush at Nappa again, attacking with a rapid flurry of punches and kicks that slowly begin to drive Nappa back. And, if you aren't mistaken, he seems to be having difficulty holding you off.

Still, he's perfectly capable of countering, and he slams his knee into your gut, knocking you back.

You leap into the air as he throws an energy blast your way, and charge down at him as fast as you can, throwing a kick he barely blocks.

"Now that's more like it, boy!" Nappa shouts before throwing a punch you barely avoid.

You retaliate with a punch that he parries, evade a kick he throws in retaliation, and leap up, punching him in the cheek and causing him to stagger backwards.

He looks down at you, grinning.

"Alright, now the real fun begins"

>That's it for tonight

Next thread should be Saturday evening, but follow me @qmdralo for schedule and update changes

Go to ask.fm/qmdralo to ask me questions when I'm not running

I'll answer questions until the thread 404s
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>>38689403
The fuck is wrong with her face?

Why are most of these shit?!
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>>38689403
by the kais that face is horrifying.
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>>38689418
Was it part of your plan to make us to want to start talking about waifuing Cell?
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>>38689418
Favorite Dragon Ball (non-DBZ) movie?
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>>38689418
Would you a female cell
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>>38689418
Have we finally started making the proper amount of gains?

You are cool with cell jr thats essentially piccolo right?

You won't allow rule 34 of cell jr right?
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>>38689418
Would we be able to go dragonball hunting with our friends the day before the Cell Games after all our training?
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>>38689418
Thanks for running
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>>38689418
Alright serious question, do you not want us to try to interact with OCs and do things other than run through the same old training fights?
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>>38689418
At the end of Z, can Kaguya possibly talk Goku out of leaving all his friends and family behind for unknown amount of time just to train some brat (uub) he hasn't even known a day?
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>>38689489
do that shit after the games.
also if Cell starts talking some shit about rules just ignore him. He'll have to make us follow those rules if he can.
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>>38689418
Are the Cell wafiufags worse than the 18 ones?

More serious question, have any other the other Z-Fighters come up with new moves? Does Krillin use Destructo Sword?
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>>38689505
according to DRALO uub never existed.
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>>38689540
By the nature of cell absorbing 18, yes the cellfags are.
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>>38689485
>>
Alright guys, we need a training regimen for the next week.

How about every morning we get more energy added to our cuffs until we can't even stand again, and fight to make the same gains that we did today until we're able to spar evenly with one of the Saiyans by day's end?
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>>38689418
I hope you remember that we went from neat Raditz to near 16 in like 10 minutes when you factor in your 'max gains' time skip.

Gotta stay consistent
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>>38689553
Huzzah.
>>38689540
I feel bad that I contributed the second gender swap pic just because I like swaps like that designwise. I keep forgetting those spawn waifu obsession.
>>38689555
Glorious.
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>>38689630
Sure that would be good. It won't do anything but get us to equal Cell's power, but it'll be a neat way of saying how we got there.
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>>38689418
If we blow up the arena and gave Cell the finger
"That was for blowing up the HBTC"
How mad would he be?
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>>38689630
actually what if someone like SSJ goku poured ALL of his energy into the cuffs? we could fight the cuffs for really long and keep getting gains without holding anyone else back.
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>>38689630
>More power to energy cuffs
>Kazuma, 16 and Saiyan sparring (whoever is available)
>End the day with Pendulum room fight perfect cell and try to land a hit
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>>38689477
No

>>38689466
You know, I don't think I've watched any of them yet

>>38689485
Yes

Yes

I will ot allow a Cell waifu

>>38689489
If Goku doesn't get them

>>38689505
He can try, and if that doesn't work he can probably knock Goku out

>>38689504
I do want you to interact and have character development, but I also don't want you guys to get thrashed by Cell and complain that he was too strong or about railroading.

>>38689503
Thanks for playing

>>38689540
They're just being funny

He prefers his disk

>>38689553
I stand by that

>>38689555
Okay, that's funny

>>38689697
Depends when
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>>38689704
We could literally have every one of our friends pour all their power into the cuffs and have them take a senzu and repeat as often as they'd like.
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>>38689747
>I will allow a Cell waifu
Good to know
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>>38689747
Might want to archive the thread, don't see it on suptg. Unless it's taking it's time to show.
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>>38689747
Cell Junior going to the high school with a laughably bad rubber human mask and playing supervillain for fun of an afternoon with the Sentais Y/N
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>>38689747
Would the spirit bomb work on Cell or at least damage him enough for a Skybreaker or Kamehameha to finish him off?
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>>38689540
>Waaah 18 bad
Seriously that was one or two guys.
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>>38689811
Possibly

>>38689812
If you could actually make it hit, maybe

>>38689774
Just did
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>>38689825
Yeah and I was having fun making waifu jokes that time as well. It's hilarious to me.

>just kidding I want to fuck cell and 18
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>>38689812
Oh no, this slow moving ball of energy I can see coming from a mile away is about to hit me. If only I could stop time to get out the way.
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>>38689878
Woo, all Kaguya and Gohan have to do then is to distract Cell long enough or survive long enough for Goku to finish and launch the thing
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>>38689825
All really serious shitposting is one or two guys.
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>>38689898
>Cell stops time, the spirit bomb tracks him even during his time stop. He exclaims "BULLSHIT!!!" so loudly all his breath is expelled. He is hit by the spirit bomb. Kaguya gives his best Sam Smile after playing along with the time stops up to that point.
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>>38689898
yeah this is probably going to end with a sacrifice teleport into the spirit bomb while going skybreaker
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>>38689929
I....you...good luck.

>>38689768
......
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>>38689950
Cell: "What the hell!?! Why is it still moving!?!"
Kaguya: "Cause I broke time!!" while pushing the Spirit Bomb towards Cell
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>>38689963
I'm still fond of the KaioEND route where we move sponge Kaioken to blast Cell off of erf at the last moment. Especially if it's a Rampage Drive + Kaioken sacrifice play.
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>>38690019
Eh we can do that only if we know he won't survive the explosion otherwise, he is going to use our voice to taunt our friends how we failed.
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on the subject of beating the time stop what kind of gas grenades are best at binding to red blood cells to force a higher rate of respiration?
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>>38690040
I don't know man. A Kaioken boosted Sky Breaker would probably wreck Cell if we were anywhere near the 30-40% chance of beating him range. It'd probably more likely involved hauling him into space to self destruct though.
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>>38690089
Maybe the Kaioken wont make us explode if we burn off all of our energy at once, and instead just makes our organs mulch and we die then. Who knows?

QM knows.
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wait a fucking second Yamcha can fucking kaioken. He's unlocked isn't he? king kai might have been full of shit.
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>>38690000
>"Cause I broke time!!"
>quads
This has to happen now
https://youtu.be/zYw7PCpF7zo?t=40s
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>>38690121
Isn't a kaio ken replacement what Rampage Drive is for?
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>>38690121
Explosion, probably

>>38690123
He can't do it since he became Super Human
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>>38690123
Yamcha hasn't been able to use Kaioken since he became super human. It was asked about several threads ago. Hopefully we'll figure out the trick to Kaioken safely after we die and visit King Kai.
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>>38690181
my bad then.
We could use the PR to safely learn the Kaioken without blowing up for good.
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>>38690224
That was suggested long ago without ever being followed up on
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>>38690251
I'm pretty sure Kaguya has severe ADHD. seriously we have the attention span of a goldfish but when we find something interesting we fucking stick to it to the detriment of everything else.
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>>38690282
So...we're like most other DBZ characters
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>>38690282
Yeah, I've noticed.
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>>38690282
>implying Nappa was a mistake?
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>>38690282
Since kaguya was born a super human, are viruses and diseases going to become super as well if they somehow survive Kaguya's immune system?
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>>38690367
I'd assume not. Viruses attempt to reprogram human cells to generate more viruses making them nonhuman and forfeiting the buff and bacteria aren't even remotely similar genetically to Kaguya.
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>>38690367
Shit....
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>>38690367
>inb4 superAIDS
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>>38690434
oh right on this subject: could we replace our eyes with better mechanical ones without forfeiting the superhuman buff? and if so could we unlock 17 and 18?
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>>38690434
But we have a super immune system right? That makes in unlikely in the first place.
>>38690475
WHY!? Did we just lose our normal ones? I haven't noticed a need.
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>>38690475
Yes, though that would probably creep some people out. Also, Toriyama said 17 and 18 could get stronger with training, so their potential can probably be unlocked

>>38690509
True
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>>38690509
seeing through smoke, more accurate detection of powerlevels, infrared, longer visual range, upgradability as better versions appear.
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>>38690517
aww yeah 2 more superhumans to the z-corps.
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>>38690544
We can already fight without seeing just by sensing our opponent's ki. The only time that would ever be useful is against an opponent like the androids themselves.

C'mon guys use your head, sensing Ki was like the first thing we learned how to do. Goku explicitly uses his ability to sense Ki to trick frieza when he can't see through dust or water.
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>>38690593
except Goku in canon cannot sense the ki of beerus (until SSJG) and the range of sensing is limited to a few Astronomical Units.
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>>38690631
(cont.)
there is also the fact PLs are misleading. This could be fixed via algorithms and assisted machine learning to refine the PL system to more accurately represent threat levels.
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>>38690631
Unless we properly learn IT which lets you sense shit in other galaxies if you concentrate.
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>>38690631
Well, God level anything is beyond us at that point. It's a whole other ball game. By the time we're at that point we're going to need our own bullshit power up (Super Human God, anyone?) and that will give us the ki sensing necessary.

As for sensing, when will we literally ever need to sense anything beyond what's on earth? We can't fight in space. No one can except Frieza. Beerus probably can.

>>38690631
>>38690678
The scanners literally did what you're suggesting to do. Except you're saying "But it's better because math" that the fucking Tuffles couldn't figure out, who were an alien race who's technology was so advanced they were capable of fighting the saiyans in an all out eight year war.
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>>38690697
also 16 can sense the hidden potential in Gohan while we cannot. this could be an useful ability.
we already have the best Tuffles had (the scouters) so we can build on their accomplishments. Tuffles never finished the scouters because they lost not because they failed to make a better scouter.
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>>38690697
I'd imagine Super Human God would just be fighting Beerus until the limitation of our fundamental nature breaks and we acquire divine ki.

>>38690631
>>38690678
Build a better scouter and link them to a central database instead of scooping out our perfectly good eyes, then.
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>>38690587
More likely one, since 17 will most likely be anti-social like he was in canon.
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>>38690751
Building a better scouter is fine. We don't need to rip our eyes out of our fucking face though
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but what use are our original eyes if we can make better ones?
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>>38690818
But the blindness would just be another limit to break, until we can see with our ears like the one Samurai Jack episode when he fought the archers. And then he never did that again.
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>>38690854
We can already fight without seeing!

>>38690851
Because there's no reason to scoop out our eyes. We can make a scouter that does the exact same thing.

It's stupid, anon. And you know what? You're stupid.
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>>38690854
Then just do what Jack did and use a blindfold not....

SCOOP OUT OUR FUCKING EYES!
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>>38690886
inb4 Cell does blind us

We know he has Solar Flare.
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>>38690882
what is it with you guys and your attachment to your bodyparts?
A mechanical eye could see in a larger spectrum of light than our current one allowing us to see though some materials. It would be better protected than an external item too
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>>38690930
We don't need to see to fight. We can sense his Ki.

>>38690941
my dad works for Dralo and he said it's a dumb idea
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>>38690930
Then we'll just fight him by sensing his ki. Also, solar flare isn't permanent.
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>>38690941
>what is it with you guys and your attachment to your bodyparts?
Because we're humans, not some kind of reptile alien that wants to be a real cyborg.

Frieza pls go.
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>>38690697
Saiyans seem to be able to fight in space just fine for whatever reason. I chalk it up to power levels. They probably still can't survive indefinitely in the void like Frieza can though.
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>>38690994
That Bardock stuff was filler, at the time at least. Goku makes a huge deal out of not being able to breath in space during the Frieza fight, and that's certainly canon.
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>>38690697
>As for sensing, when will we literally ever need to sense anything beyond what's on earth? We can't fight in space. No one can except Frieza. Beerus probably can.
well the farther our we can figure out someone's coming the more time we have to prepare.
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>>38691010
Not when people can instantly teleport across the universe. It's useless.
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>>38691030
if they teleported INTO range it means our range wasn't big enough. MAKE BIGGER SENSORS
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>>38690941
If you want transhuman cyborg quest, then go run it instead of bringing it up here.

>>38691010
>well the farther our we can figure out someone's coming the more time we have to prepare.
You know what would do that better than scooping out our eyes? An array based off scouter technology, probably in space as a satellite or series of satellites to avoid any kind of atmospheric interference.

Not like we know an incredibly rich corporation that would be willing to make such a thing. No, that just seems wildly unlikely.
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>>38691009
And then he does it just fine fighting Beerus. And then there's Monster Rabbit who survived on the moon and survived it blowing up. Space isn't as bad as all that when you hit high enough power.
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>>38691056
bah... you're no fun with your good ideas and shit.
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>>38691062
Yeah I was thinking "God mode lol" as for the reason he could suddenly fight in space
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>>38691075
To be fair I suggested something just like that before the android arc. I was hoping we could get it up in time to track cell and cock block him.
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>>38691096
oh right I remember that. was a good idea then is a good idea now. could even help with the future space shenanigans some people seem to want.
"There's a large powerlevel on planet xyz123 and it seems to be snuffing out the local population!"
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>>38691134
Yeah I hope we can set it up. It should help with further threats to the planet and help make a solid HQ for a galaxy police force/empire (if we don't end up being recruited by Jako's organization).

On a separate note I guess while we have the benefit of the Pendulum room we should see about trying Kaioken just so we can get it dealt with.
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Noticed 16 was eating with us earlier in the thread? Why did Gero give him a digestive system?
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>>38691355
He sat at the table, didn't actually eat
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>>38691398
Can we wish for android 16 to be human?



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