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Someone tell me it is not true
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It is true anon, you may cry on my shoulder if you would like.
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>>38649163

https://twitter.com/terryandrob/status/576036888190038016

Forgot link but I'm crying like a motherfucker
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>is kill
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I just saw the notification from his Facebook account. Sad, but not unexpected.

I wonder if he finally did it like he planned years ago: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jun/12/pratchett-starts-process-to-end-his-life

(I wonder if we could still preserve his brain?)
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>>38649163

I am just here looking at his books in my bookshelf. Somebody please post the screenshot
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>>38649163
A legend has passed. An era is gone. The world is less, now.

Farewell, and may the end of the desert be kind to you.
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Was it youthinasia?
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So what do we do now /tg/?

How do we commemorate him?
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>>38649245
By learning important lessons.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

Hope you've avoided the rush sir.
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>>38649163
"All the little angels rise up, rise up.
All the little angels rise up high!
How do they rise up, rise up, rise up?
How do they rise up, rise up high?
They rise heads up, heads up, heads up, they rise heads up, heads up high!"
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:<
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>>38649245
Leave copies of his books scattered about town, in the hope that people will pick them up and read them.
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>>38649806
There.
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I hope he took out a life in sewer ants poly sea
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>>38649245

4chancup player
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>>38649187
According to the BBC, no. It was in bed with his cats and family though.
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>>38649944
You got me.
Now let's have a good clean thread about the nuts and bolts of how that game is played, not the fluff or who wrote it.
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>>38650061
Fuck off. Tolkien mythos is cross examined every hour of every day and he didn't even assist in the making of an RPG.
This is temporary, we all know it. Just.. Just give us a couple of days and a few threads.
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>>38650061
I've played it once, broke the GM's game using L-Space Theory and I think he never GMed anything ever again.
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Godspeed Mr. Pratchett. Godspeed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qBqP2I4p8
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>>38649806
I bet you bitched when Jacques and Williams died too.

And the threads went on.
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I forget who this guy is.
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>>38649163
I'm shocked.

I knew he had health problems but hell...something has to end one day.

Still it got me all of a sudden.

>>38649245
We do an epic paper RPG based off his works.
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>>38650504
>>38649944
Nevermind...
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Dammit, that last tweet.

AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER

I am feeling terrible...
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>>38649163
Wait, didn't he die already? I forgot that he was still alive!
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>>38650566
Nah, he was just bloody much ill.
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>>38650092
>muh fallacies
How's middle school treating you?

Fantasy literature has been a part of this board for ages probably before those 5 years of yours, you internet cred whore, getting the occasional thread once in a while. Not so much off-topic when it's ingrained into the goddamn board.
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Why couldn't we be having this thread about autist anon's death instead of Pratchett's? Proof there is no just or loving god.
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>>38650839
THERE IS NO JUSTICE
THERE'S JUST ME
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I'd normally bitch about how this shit was off-topic, but goddamn, I can't do it today.
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>>38650963
>offtopic
Unbelievable
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>>38651052
If Tolkien had died today you'd find people bitching about off-topic threads.
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FUCK

just

FUCK
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>>38649245
I'm planning on finding a sprig of lilac to wear.
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>>38651086

Hell, if Dave Arneson had died today, you'd have jackasses whining about "off-topic."

Farewell, Terry, you'll be missed.
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>>38651301
If Matt Ward died, we'd all dress up like munchkins and sing, "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Dead."
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>>38651361
And people would still be complaining about off-topic.
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>>38651361
>Still thinking matt ruined anything
Fucking deluded.
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>>38651505
>Thinking the person talking about dancing around in a munchkin costume was at all serious.
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>>38651639
There's an autist who thinks he's a santa elf held captive by pikachu then the faggot who dresses up as a munchkin can too.
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>>38651505
Warhammer Fantasy Battle.

The man should never be allowed near the core rules.
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>>38650880
Best representation of death ever, and the best character IMO.
The embodiment of the inevitable, uncaring march of time, and he has heart enough to adopt a daughter, and save Christmas-surrogate#6351.
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/tg/ full of hate.

Come to the /co/ storytime.

>>>/co/70206684
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>>38651842

One or two faggots is not "full of hate."
It's a regular Thursday on 4chan.
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>>38649180

noooo...
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>>38650296
So did he.
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>>38651934
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>>38651934
Boy I sure like to see that joke again today.
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>>38651934
Pun/10
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>>38649163
-10 hp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oxrTSRkC0
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>>38651934
B-but that wasn't the kind of Alzheimer's he had
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>>38649245
Build an effigy in his honor?
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We need mourning music. /k/ got moscow nights when Kalashnikov passed, Terry needs something too.
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What was the deal with his sword again? Something about a treasure hint?

>>38652077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczjCi73So8
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>>38649163
For fucks sake, I'm really sad. I spend a good part of my childhood and teen years reading his books. Why couldn't that smug fat bastard Martin have died instead of him
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>>38652169
Who?
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So I guess that I'm the only one who doesn't really give a fuck about his passing?
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>>38652195

He means George R.R. Martin. I think he's trying to start a nerdwar for some reason.

There are actually terrible authors out there who keep writing terrible books, there's no need to pick on GRRM.
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>>38652195
GRRM

>>38652229
The series is becoming a goddamn chore to read.
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>>38652229
Oh. I see.
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>>38652208

No, we have a whole corner roped off for the edgelords to go stand in, and tell each other about how cool and hard they are.
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>>38652249
>The series is becoming a goddamn chore to read.

Would you prefer if Kevin J. Anderson wrote the ending?
'Cause that's what you're asking for.
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>>38652229
He probably picked Gurm because there's little hope he'll keep churning out aSoIaF even if he stays alive a bit longer.
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>>38652208
I imagine basically everyone who has never read any Discworld wouldn't care.
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>>38651270
We could wear one every 12 of March and if ever we pass on the street, we will know. Question: do lilacs bloom in March?
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>>38652318
Yes, but those are subhuman wretches who may only hope to be one day enlightened. We don't care about them.
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>>38649944
That's such a cool cover.
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>>38652350
Only in places with very early springs. They're apparently a mid-spring to early summer flower.
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>>38652350
They generally bloom in may.

And unfortunately the vast majority of the US' climate sucks for it.

Like I live in Louisiana, and it's impossible to get Lilac to grow here without a cooled greenhouse type set up because the summer is too long and humid and hot, and the winter isn't cold enough nor really long enough.
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The wrong Terry got ill and died. Should have been Goodkind, not Pratchett.

I feel sad and angry but mostly sad.
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>>38649163

Who?
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>>38652208
>I'm the only one
Yeah just you buddy. Wear your special button today to show what a unique individual you are
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>>38651934
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Newfag here,who was this guy?
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>See the news
>TFW my first thought was "Thank god his suffering and deterioration is over"
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>>38652256

Yeah, it's called /lit/.
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>>38652477
Son, odds are you're in for a treat.
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Dead faggot.
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>>38649163
sorry man.

ITS TRUE.

Goodnight sweet prince, may your embuggerment bugger you no more.
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>>38652477
Discworld author.
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>>38649245
Same thing you should do when any beloved /tg/ celebrity dies.

Construct an altar to him and spill the blood of the innocent upon it on the anniversary of his death in the hopes of summoning him and plunging the world into a thousand years of darkness.
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If there's any anons with a copy of The Last Hero
Page 22 and 23
See it in person

24-25 in the pdf
http://folk.uio.no/andlia/pratchett_the_last_hero.pdf

This was the best I could do >>38652238
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>>38652527
He wouldn't want you to be tryhard BBEG.
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>>38649187
Already have preserved it through the best means available anon.
Seventy books.
Each time you read them, remember.
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>>38649630

All the little angels rise up, rise up,
All the little angels rise up high!
How do they rise up, rise up, rise up,
How do they rise up, rise up high?
They rise arse up, arse up, arse up, they rise arse up, arse up high!
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>>38652482
That's... a better thought.
Carry on anon.
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>>38652477

A writer of fantasy and satire. Wrote a long running series called Discworld which is among the funniest fantasy series ever written. Got knighted by the queen. Was generally a cool dude.

I recommend starting with Guards! Guards! The Rincewind novels are a bit weak, but the Watch, the Death series, and the Witches are all great.

However, if you only read one book of his ever, make it Small Gods.
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>>38652511
Hopefully he'll be reborn as a hedgehog, and thus never have to worry about this again.
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>>38652077
How about this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bfEUBJLZSHw
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>>38652577
I read Small God and don't see why it's held in such high regards compared to the other books.
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>>38652577
That guide is old. Here, take this.
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>>38652581
For the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.

I never even met the guy, but I can't stop fucking crying. He was so influential on my sense of humour and outlook on life, and it's just plain not fair. Why does somebody like pTerry get this but not some hack like Myres?
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>>38652527
Well, we won't be short of virgin sacrifices around here.
I like your plan sir, let's make it happen.
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>>38652639

Well, YMMV, but most people think it's among his best.
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>>38652482

Agreed. I was worried he thought it was time, but upon reading the article, I was somewhat comforted that he passed naturally and at home, surrounded by family instead of doctors.

I encourage everyone to try to sit through Choosing to Die. It's one of the frankest, most honest looks at assisted dying around. It was challenging to watch when Sir Terry was alive, and I can't even make it through the intro now that he's gone, but please, try.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnu340_terry-pratchett-choosing-to-die_shortfilms
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>>38652527
So he's Amork?
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>>38652610
>>38652077
Best I've heard today are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cn7ZW8ts3Y

Which is apparently what he wanted played in the background while he died
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>>38652639
Don't quote me on this, it's entirely unsubstantiated opinion, but I think it's more loved in the Americas than it is in the UK.

For Americans, that kind of deconstruction of religion is more tittilating because religion is a much bigger part of US culture than the Church of England is to the UK. Not to mention they take it much more seriously in general than Brits do.
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>>38652394
>>38652415
That's what I figured. I suppose we could wear it on the 25th of May then
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Time to get drunk and marathon his bbc movies. Moving his books to the top shelf.
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>>38652736
>those american covers
I feel for you :( I have an entire set of the british ones, EXCEPT Jingo and Pyramids.
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tbh I hope we don't keep talking about him as long as we did for Robin Williams.

I mean here in the following weeks. Of course his wok deserves to be known in general.
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>>38652542
I was thinking of an other two-page spread.
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>>38652697
UKfag here, I love it. It's up there with Night Watch and Monstrous Regiment as my favourites.
>>38652694
Oh Jesus, I feel like crying now. Those songs are just so perfect and so sad.
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>>38651781
>best representation of death ever
Thems fightin' words.
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>>38652773
>Of course his wok deserves to be known in general.

Agreed. Say what you will about his writing, especially the last few books, but you have to admit the man could make one hell of a stir-fry.
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>>38652660
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=othxGLWIYSw&t=7m17s
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>>38652773
Why did you remind me of him? http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/678508-op-is-a-faggot
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>>38652831
Discworld's Death's a lot more fleshed out.
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>>38652350
It's Friday the 13th here in New Zealand. A sign.
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>>38652660
Like the tall thin guy with a broken caps lock would probably tell you...
‘No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away…’

Or something like that.

Life isn't fair, it's just life.
Whether it's happy or sad has as much to do with the person as the events that happen.
Focus on the parts you treasure still, not what was lost because those parts are still with you as long as you hold on to them
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>>38652736
It's time to watch Hogfather again, I think. I need that, I think.
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>>38652860
Ironic.
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>>38652477
An overrated author. He is mildly amusing, but to hear most nerd he's the god-king of comedy.
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>>38652812
Which one?
THAT IS NOT MY COW?

The entire discworld dead always kind of struck me
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>>38652813
>Monstrous Regiment
Ech, I was never a fan.

I think that's (one of) the wonderful thing(s) about the Pratchett books though, beyond Night Watch, everyone has different favorites. And no one is really wrong. They're all pretty damn good. Even the bad ones.
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I don't have anything clever to say, just fuck. Fuck.
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>>38652831
Their collaboration was a thing to behold
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>>38652694
How about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9NgIciBaU
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>>38652350
Could get a lilac clothing to wear for 12 of March each year
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>>38650927
>https://data.archive.moe/board/vg/image/1426/17/1426177913746.png
Overflowing with feels up in here.
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>>38652860
Sandmans death is allot more Likable
I actually haven't gotten around to reading terry pratchett yet, so I have no idea what I'm talking about, but this thread has me itching to get started now.
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>>38649163
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31858156

It's true anon. It's true.
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>>38649163
He taught me as much as my father. I'll miss him like a family member.
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>>38652831

Gaiman himself will tell you he owes a good chunk of his career to Sir Terry.
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>>38649163
we lost one of the giants today, not just a funny writer but a wise one.

“All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."

REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

"Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—"

YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

"So we can believe the big ones?"

YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

"They're not the same at all!"

YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"

MY POINT EXACTLY.”
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"I rage at the imminent loss of my friend. And I think, “What would Terry do with this anger?” Then I pick up my pen, and I start to write."
Gaiman said it a year ago. What are you writing because of it, /tg/?
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>>38652935
You should man, you should.

I wouldn't recommend starting with The Colour of Magic/Light Fantastic, but they're all pretty good.
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>>38652935
Get started as soon as you can. Read Discworld. It's worth your time and attention.
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>>38652935
Sandman's death you want to be friends with/cuddle.
Discworld's death you want as a granddad or uncle.

>>38652963
To quote his blog -
>Thirty years and a month ago, a beginning author met a young journalist in a Chinese Restaurant, and the two men became friends, and they wrote a book, and they managed to stay friends despite everything. Last night, the author died.

>There was nobody like him. I was fortunate to have written a book with him, when we were younger, which taught me so much.
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>>38652963
I'd love him to tell me that, but the talk he is giving nearby where I live sold out of tickets before me and my dad learned it was happening.
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>>38649753
Will do. I still remember the first time I read the carpet people... then I re read it three times. I want to share this with the world.
Who is with me?
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>>38652882
For some reason, the (I think) most well-known of all: Cohen and Io. Kinda accurate too.
But yeah, seeing the dead Disc was, not shocking but... made me feel a bit weird.
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>>38652581
Still crying.

But smiling now, too.
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I'm not really bothered. Dude got old, it happens.
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>>38652831
I suspect Neil Gaiman disagrees
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http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/24/terry-pratchett-angry-not-jolly-neil-gaiman

Terry was truly one of us. Filled with anger and vitriol. He just made that anger work for him, instead of letting it consume him.
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>>38652971
Stupid shit and flippant quotes on the internet.

I think I should aim a taste higher.
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Am I crazy for being thankful for the fact that at least he left Ankh Morpork less of a shithole than it was?
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Gaiman's Death is more often seen from the outside, she's an enigma, a motif in the larger world he created.

Pratchett's DEATH actually becomes more personable as the series goes on. You get to know the character inside out.
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>>38652971
Thanks. I needed this.
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>>38653096
He left a lot of things a little better than when he arrived.
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>>38653005
I am. In Belgium and with french versions (which are really really good, by the way), but I am.
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Fuck that's really young
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>>38649163
I don't think I've actually read any of his books.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9pQUKV9MuM
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>>38653096
You know, I got the feeling in his later books he was setting up as close as that beautifully honest city could get to a happy ending.
Making his creations comfortable and giving them blue skies ahead.
Well...
polluted, hazy with stench from the river that in summer more slouched than ran through it, but still blue.
Blueish.

Just... I don't know.
Making sure they were all okay for when he had to leave them, I guess.
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>>38653128
>tfw Gaiman dies and we get fan art of the two Deaths meeting
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>>38653224
I noticed that too... sort of from Snuff onwards he seemed to be writing Conclusions. Even Judgement Day has a happy ending of sorts.
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>>38653092
I will not write anything, for I have not the skill. This is the quote from that Gaiman interview:

>He will rage, as he leaves, against so many things: stupidity, injustice, human foolishness and shortsightedness, not just the dying of the light. And, hand in hand with the anger, like an angel and a demon walking into the sunset, there is love: for human beings, in all our fallibility; for treasured objects; for stories; and ultimately and in all things, love for human dignity.

>http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/24/terry-pratchett-angry-not-jolly-neil-gaiman


I think it's better to do one small thing to make the world a less shitty place however you can than try to emulate his chosen art.
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>>38653184
Didn't they insert a La Grande Vadrouille reference in one of them?

>>38653224
I think it's more like he wanted to get away from the social status quo that permeates a lot of fantasy settings.

The city is a lot different at the end of the series than at the start.
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>>38652880
literary critics basically consider him to be shakespear's successor. So yeah. He's the god-king of comedy.
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>>38653013
You know, with the dice and such, that's probably the most /tg/ of all his books.

Though I doubt any fa/tg/uy has gotten a 7 on a 6-sided die
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>>38653267
Huh.

That's a bit hyperbolic. Probably not true either.
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>>38653267
I like (liked...) Terry Pratchett as much as the next guy but literary critics absolutely did not consider him to be shakespear's successor, c'mon now.
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>>38652808
So we should start reporting the haters?

Is that what I'm getting here?

Because I'm all for it.
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>>38653295
Well, with modifiers...
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>>38653224
Same here.
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>>38652272
That's...terrifying.
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>>38653344
Okay, Cohen's modifier was a sword, but it wasn't a +1 sword or anything.
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>>38653318
>>38653310
The man wrote on point political satire disguised as comedy that became incredibly famous within his own lifetime and played a significant role in the formation and transformation of the way we do satire and comedy in the modern novel. Hyperbolic or not, it's an apt title.
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>>38653337
I don't think that's what we should be doing.
I mean, I know this is 4chan, and people are overcome with the compulsive need to hate on things they could otherwise safely ignore, but...

I get the feeling that if we start lashing out at haters, we'd be - in some way - letting down Pterry. You know?
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>>38653337
That was from the era of a bad mod that threw bans for not liking what he liked. He also was guilty of trying force memes, it was believed he posted the Kromgol character sheets as he banned anyone who questioned their veracity due to the rules irregularities and general incomplete nature of them.
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>>38653404
I swer on me mum "Pterry" sound retarded as heck
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>>38653404
True enough. We'll let the mods decide it.
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6 years ago I had the honour to by absolute chance meet, and know Terry Pratchett through one of my many projects, he joined as a beta tester two days after I signed up as a dev, i had no idea who he really was until a few days after his knighting ceremony, ended up trying some of his books and now have a fairly large collection of his books that i've been slowly reading through since.
There is supposedly a nod or two to the project including a bug in the project's cooking system in one of his newer books which spewed massive amounts of potatoes out of the cooking fires at Sir Terry.
But my favourite memory of him is not relating to his book, but rather his demonstrations at 60 years old he built himself a forge, in a muddy field, fueled by sheeps dung, and spent much time fossicing small bits of iron from that field, and made himself a shortsword from all those tiny bits.
I wish I still had the photos, and I wish I started his books years before meeting him.
I'm sure he's in good hands though, he got to meet one of his most popular characters.
All the best Terry
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>>38653432
It's literally just pronounced Terry.
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>>38653251
Yeah.
It's a bittersweet day, anon.
Can't help but remember all the joy along with the loss.
Can't consider Pratchett without thinking of all those good times in those dusty old novels up on my shelves.
Sad as I am, I'm catching myself smiling a hell of a lot.
There are worse ways to be remembered all things considered.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnu340_terry-pratchett-choosing-to-die_shortfilms

I cry every time.
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>>38653418
>the angry man reaction maymay

Straight up kill yourself immediately. Your opinion is shit, your taste is shit, everything you do is shit, now and forever, amen. Now die.
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>>38652542
I'm enjoying this an awful lot. Rereading it is very comforting. Thank you very much.
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>>38652762
I have all the british ones.
Two are variations, but still british.
It's great if to order british books in english from german amazon, but with american ones you probably end up with the british covers.
I don't even want to know how disgusting the german covers look, the title translations alone make me puke.
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>>38653378
It turned a roll of 6 into a roll of 7. It is, quite literally, a +1 sword.
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>>38653267
A quick google search finds nothing of the sort. The closest is Brandon Sanderson, the author of the Mistborne Trilogy doing it.
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>>38653261
Probably. I can't really tell you... There are lots of references in all the books. The french translator made an awesome work in keeping the.. I don't know, mood? of the Discworld by often re-inventing puns and wordplay that were, as is, untranslatable, and sometimes totally transforming elements because the references Pratchett made would have been un-understandable by french reader, or at least not as fun.
Best exemple, in my opinion, is for teh Wee-Free Men. Making them talk with a scottish accent, or in a scottish dialect wouldn't have had the same impact on french readers than it had on english readers. Making them speak picard and translating their name to "Ch'tis Hommes Libres" isn't something all translators would have thought of. Most would probably have translated it to "P'tits Hommes Libres" (closer to "Li'l Free Men") and would have had them simply rolling their r's.
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RIP, Pratchett. You were one of my favorite authors, and I can only hope that if there is anything after death, it's kind to you.
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>>38652577
don't forget he got a sword made out of iron from meteorites to go with the knighthood
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html
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"Where's the Dean ?"

"He died years ago, Archchancellor. You talked at his funeral, remember?"

"Oh. The Bursar ?"

"Him too, I'm afraid."

"The Senior Wrangler ? The Lecturer in Recent Runes ? The Chair of Indefinite Studies ?"

"...Them, too."

"Oh..."

"..."

"Surely that good old Rincewind is still around ? Not a man to let himself get caught by anything, especially not Death."

"He passed away in his sleep two years ago, Archchancellor."

"Oh...

"..."
"... Mustrum? I'm sure he made it. I remember him giving me his hat like if it was yesterday!"

"... It was forty years ago, Archancellor Stibbons. I'm sorry."

"Oh..."

"..."

"..."

"..."

"Where's the Dean ?"

"... I'm sure he won't be long, Archchancellor. You'll see him soon. Him and the others"

seeing as >>38650214 is on page 9 at the bump limit I'm copying it over
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I just hope he remembered to bring his potato.
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>>38652077
Moot's gone. Nobody else would dare fuck around with boards like he used to.
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>>38653656
ifyou're interested I might be able to find the posts where he discussed making it although the pictures he posted were long since taken off his web server
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>>38653656

That's pretty badass.
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>>38653725
That would be awesome.
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>>38653717
I miss him so much.
And it has only been a few months.
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>>38653544
He also translated the lyre/liar joke in Soul Music as "de cithare"/"de si tard".
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>>38649977
Because a bunch of the /tg/ user base cares. I don't see the problem if it's kept to one or two threads. It won't be a recurring issue seeing as this is the only time he'll die. Some things are more important than rules.
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>>38653767
Also, it would have stayed in one thread if we'd actually gotten a sticky like /lit/ and /co/ did.
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>>38653767
>Some things are more important than rules.
What a Pratchett thing to say.
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>>38653780
Peter O'Toole didn't get his /tv/ sticky, don't count on them too much.
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>>38651917
This fucking year, man.
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Better he died now than lived long enough for the Alzheimer to completely destroy his mind.
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>>38652880
You take that the fuck back.
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>>38652831
Too bad in reality it's the bag, fuckface
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>>38653851
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
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>>38653871
>this shitty meme outlived Pratchett
I hope you're proud of yourself.
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>>38653404
Eh. There's a difference between "I always thought Pratchett's work was overrated" and "hurr durr fedorashit edgy hurr durr".

The former at least *could* be expressing an honest opinion. They're fine. Let 'em argue, if they have arguments. Let 'em opine, if they've opinions.

The latter aren't arguing; they're just throwing shit. Rule 3 violation; report, hide, and move on.
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>>38653825

We lost Robin Williams, we lost Leonard Nimoy, and now we lost Terry Pratchett...

Considering the great age of a lot of other celebrities, we're going to be losing a lot of greats in the next years. It's gonna be rough.
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>>38653899
Yes, which explains why your words just kind of seem to be bouncing off ineffectually.

It's like being lightly patted with the world's softest pillow.
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"He'd never been keen on heroes. But he realised that he needed them to be there, like forests and mountains... he might never see them, but they filled some sort of hole in his mind. Some sort of hole in everyone's mind."
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>>38653310

Either you're trolling or you've never read Pratchett.

His genius was taking complex ideas - political and philosophical themes, literary references etc - and presenting it in a very accessible writing style (which is also really hard to do and something he honed by working as a journalist and PR guy) It's what fantasy is always meant to be - BIG IDEAS.

On his death, he had (IIRC) seven honorary university doctorates in literature (he liked to introduce himself to doctors as "dr dr dr dr... Pratchett") and a knighthood from Her Majesty The Fucking Queen You Gobshite for services to literature.

So, greater authorities on the topic than you seem to disagree about whether or not he was a great, important writer. His worst sin in a literary snob's perspective, though one that was largely forgiven by the end of his career, was writing in a genre and daring to blur the lines between popular writing and literature, or perhaps for showing that the distinction was a largely false one.
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>>38653749
considering all the stuff hes done he was a very humble person

for years I had no idea the reason he made the sword, I thought he was just having fun with it.
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>>38653902
I enjoy both.
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>>38653950

Wow, the picture even looks like him.
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>>38649944
Double dubs reveal the true method to honour him to me.
I will play this game for the first time. I will try to make it the best game it can be.
If I find a party, that is.
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>>38653656
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html

Whomsoever pulleth this sword from the stone shalt have their fanfiction henceforth deemed canon
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>>38654002
Tell me you live in London.
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>>38654026
Why did I never think of using this as a reaction image?
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>>38653960
I enjoy questioning the highbrow/lowbrow distinction as much as the next guy and Pratchett was good at turning astute social and philosophical commentary into solid stories but I doubt there's anybody alive who "literary critics" agree is the successor of fucking Shakespeare. It's way too big a compliment to be given by anyone serious. And Pratchett won't have a tenth of the influence Shakespeare had, come on now.
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>>38654056
I don't know. It was the first thing I thought of when it was first spoiled.
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>>38650171
A fine choice, sir.

Very fine, indeed.
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>>38654071
That means nothing to me, because I think that if Shakespeare was born again right now, no one would say he is the new Shakespeare, thats how we praise the past and attack the present authors.

Yes, thats an opinion.

Besides that, I understand he is no Homer. He is still a goddamned great author, and more, a a great person.
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>>38653899
Nah, it's a pretty good book.
Might hurt if I got hit in the face with it
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>>38654071
I would tend to agree, but unappreciated as he was by the 'highbrow literary critics (and fuck those pretentious cunts anyway) it would not be unfair to call him the Dickens of the age
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>>38654273
Except that Pratchett's books are enjoyable to read, and will therefore never be included in an English class curriculum.
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Every time I start thinking about picking up one of his books, the fanboys make me reconsider.
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>>38654303
Join us. It's quite cozy over here, we have tea and everything.
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>>38652229
I like his non-SoIaF books better.
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>>38654052
No, sorry.
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>>38654303
Ignoring the fandom is a vital skill for any connoisseur of popular works.
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>>38654222
>>38654273
I get where you're coming from.

But shitting on critics as a whole always struck me as anti-intellectualism. A whole literary tradition doesn't exist just to be smug, even if it may seems so at times.

And comparing authors from different era seems a bit nonsensical. It's like calling Bush the Clovis of the modern era. It means nothing because the context is different.
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The old man looks up, smiling, through them… And then sees them. For once, the smile on the hooded figure’s skull is genuine.

"I… I remember you. The anth… ant…"

ANTHROPOMORPHIC PERSONIFICATION.

"That, yes. We knew each other?"

ONCE. AND WILL AGAIN. SIR?

He so rarely said it, and these feelings… Remembering the young apprentice, and his beloved daughter. The beautiful child they have…

"There… Is a girl, yes?"

SHE IS SPEAKING TO THE AUDITORS, SIR. THEY ARE UNWILLING TO LISTEN.

"Well then. You know what they say. Two things you cannot avoid. Taxes and." Those eyes, and he becomes aware.

SQUEAK.

"Quite right. Is it time already? I have much to do?"

YOU HAVE GIVEN ALL YOU CAN SIR.

"No, not cancer. Alzheimers."

I AM AWARE.

"So, where is the boy? I remember a boy."

CARRIAGE ACCIDENT.

"Ahh. Never much trusted cars. Or horses."

THEY GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

"Must I?"

SOON. BUT WE MAY SIT AWHILE.

SQUEAK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY BISCUITS?

"No, shame really."

YES.

"Is it truly turtles?"

ALL THE WAY DOWN. I HAVE SEEN THEM.

"Ahh. I would love to see it. Perhaps a small trip before?"

IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE.

"The light is slower there. And there is a monkey…"

ORANGUTAN. SAME PRINCIPLE.

"Yes. Will they. Remember me?"

SQUEAK.

"What was that? I could not hear you."

HE SAYS WE WILL SIR.
"I never much liked the trouble people had with you. You seem a nice fellow.

I HAVE MY DAYS.

"Don’t we all?"

SOME LESS THAN OTHERS.

"Is it quick?"

YES. AND I BROUGHT THE SWORD. CEREMONY DICTATES IT.

"Ahh. How about a cup of tea?"

I WOULD ENJOY IT. DO YOU PLAY CHESS?

"No. How about checkers?"

And so they sat, two old friends regaling each other. Though he could not remember all of the details, He filled him in when he needed.

"Well. Until?"

I WILL STAY HERE SIR.

They shook hands then, and both sat in a comfortable chair, watching a last sunset together.
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>>38654303
You are as bad as those who read something because everyone else is reading it, ala Twilight. Dont pick them ever, you'll do us a favour and fuck yourself, which is pretty much what I would like right now.

But it's not what Sir Terry would want of me, so pick a book and start. If you don't like the first book go direct to book 4, you can go back anytime, the series change a lot. Most of them doesnt need you to have read other books.
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>>38654071

>Pratchett won't have a tenth of the influence Shakespeare had

Debatable; we could only really make that comparison centuries after Pratchett's death and even then "influence" is going to be difficult to prove one way or the other. Certainly he's been hugely influential on the face of modern fantasy.

But it's safe to say that DURING THEIR RESPECTIVE LIFETIMES Pratchett reached a far wider audience and had far greater success. This isn't entirely fair, true, due to the nature of the times in which they were working. But then, if Pratchett can be said to have unfairly prospered in the comparison due to the more advanced literacy and media consumption, Shakespeare also prospered in standing out by having much less competition relative to Pratchett.
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>>38654385
I think we are agreeing. Aren't we suposed to disagree?
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>>38654222
>>38654273

Shakespeare's own work was considered lowbrow trash by the /lit/ folks of his day. The equivalent of soap operas or mass-market fantasy paperback today.

One notable critic was derided by his fellows for daring to call the plays "works" which implied they were art. Everyone knew "art" was reserved for stuffy books written by people history would forget, not some uneducated playwright and his dirty pun filled stage shows!

That Shakespeare comparison doesn't look so far off to me.

>>38654298

Shakespeare's hilarious if you learn his lingo. The fact that they're so old is kind of a stumbling block, but in their day they were definitely fun.
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>>38654303

Actually, I once saw a paper on the Discworld fandom by an Australian sociologist (well, it included them among other fan groups like footie fans etc) that was presented at a Discworld convention and Discworld fans are, as fan groups go, balanced and normal. You could do worse if you're judging media based on the surrounding fan communities.
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>>38654413
>This isn't entirely fair, true, due to the nature of the times in which they were working. But then, if Pratchett can be said to have unfairly prospered in the comparison due to the more advanced literacy and media consumption, Shakespeare also prospered in standing out by having much less competition relative to Pratchett.
Thank you, that's a good example of what I was getting at talking about context in >>38654385

>>38654435
Nah, it's cool that way.
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;_;7
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>>38654446

EVERYBODY'S work was considered lowbrow trash by the lit crowd of the day. Quality is something that isn't bestowed upon a work until it's author has died and often it largely has to do more with the circumstances of the author's death than the actual quality of the work. Look at David Foster Wallace. Shit but he killed himself so we have to act like every word is sacred.
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YES.
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I knew this day would come sooner rather than later. i just wish it never had.


Tell me which audio book of his should i listen too?
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>>38654303

Judge a work by its own merits. Ignoring something because a few assholes enjoy doing the same thing is no way to live.
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“No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away...”

― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man
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>>38654539
I mean the sticky.
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>>38654550
Guards Guards
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>>38654564
Should have stickied this one:
>>38650607
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>>38653660
Oh you dick.
I'm feeling feels now.
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>>38654564
I wasn't the only one who saw "Thread is now a sticky" message, right?
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>>38654579
The first one I ever read. how appropriate. thanks anon.
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damn, this pasta gets me every time.
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Okay /tg/, I haven't actually read any of Terry Pratchett's books. But I was aware of his struggle with Alzheimer's through the wider sci-fi/fantasy fan community (including fa/tg/uys) and found myself saddened yet inspired by his journey as he tried to live with the disease as best as he could. My father has early-onset Alzheimer's and, at the age of 56, is pretty much completely gone. It's a fucking cunt of a disease and I admire that Mr. Pratchett was able to fight through it as long as he did.

Hug your parents if they're still around.
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>>38652808

I once got banned for disagreeing with the "Jon Snow is a Targaryen" theory, so sometimes mods can't be trusted..
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>>38654510

Not necessarily so. Plenty of authors are lauded by literary circles before they die. But you're right in that who's good and who's not usually takes a good century to really shake out. Which is exactly what I was getting at.
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A poem from the Reddit megathread about his death, and if you want to be a faggot about the source, then fuck off.

>The sun goes down upon the Ankh,
>And slowly, softly fades -
>Across the Drum; the Royal Bank;
>The River-Gate; the Shades.

>A stony circle's closed to elves;
>And here, where lines are blurred,
>Between the stacks of books on shelves,
>A quiet 'Ook' is heard.

>A copper steps the city-street
>On paths he's often passed;
>The final march; the final beat;
>The time to rest at last.

>He gives his badge a final shine,
>And sadly shakes his head -
>While Granny lies beneath a sign
>That says: 'I aten't dead.'

>The Luggage shifts in sleep and dreams;
>It's now. The time's at hand.
>For where it's always night, it seems,
>A timer clears of sand.

>And so it is that Death arrives,
>When all the time has gone...
>But dreams endure, and hope survives,
>And Discworld carries on.
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>>38654446
The comparison was Pratchett to Dickens.
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Thud! Terry Pratchett is dead. Media vita in Mort sumus. He was truly The Last Hero, one of the Small Gods of modern day life's Maskerade. As he goes into The Light Fantastic let us, his brothers and Wyrd Sisters in humanity, remember the Sourcery of his writing - he gave us a glimpse at The Colour of Magic, gave our collective imaginations great Moving Pictures and Interesting Times. Let us not forget the unique Equal Rites of his magical wizards and Witches Abroad. Now, sadly, he is victim to the Thief of Time. He has gone to the Reaper Man, The Last Continent where he listens to the Soul Music. By Jingo! The Truth he was one of the world's Lords and Ladies of talent and deserves to be laid for his mortal Night Watch like royalty, in the Pyramids.

You might feel right now that you're not up to Snuff. Like you have Feet of Clay in the wake of this news, or maybe you feel like you're Going Postal. You might feel like calling Guards! Guards! at this terrible Theatre of Cruelty or like Faust Eric, cruelly tricked by the awful bargain of fate. Try to remember the great things Terry Pratchett brought into out lives and that each of us is just a small part of The Sea and Little Fishes. Try to keep on Making Money and Raising Steam -- humanity is a Monstrous Regiment, for sure, and though we may have suffered a loss today (all of us, from the famous to the unseen labourers and Unseen Academicals) the warmth and laughter that Terry Pratchett created will continue long after him. It does no good to worry about Death and What Comes Next. Pick yourself up and remember - Carpe Jugulum!
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>>38654648
>I once got banned for disagreeing with the "Jon Snow is a Targaryen" theory

You had it coming.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqCbOJc6RU

I was on the fence about Raising Steam, but now I guess I'll buy it.
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>>38654697

Well, the second one was. And yeah, Dickens is a good pick.
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>>38654684
>a shitty poem from Reddit
Literally leave 4chan right now please.
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>>38654710
Winter?
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Fun fact: the crowd scenes had Discworld fans as extras! I was in Colour of Magic as one of the Star People and Going Postal as well.
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>>38654446
That thing about Shakespear's language, it's great

Much Ado About Nothing

and this exchange

Hamlet: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
Ophelia: No, my lord.
Hamlet: I mean, my head upon your lap?
Ophelia: Aye, my lord.
Hamlet: Do you think I meant country matters?
Ophelia: I think nothing, my lord
Hamlet:That’s a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.
Ophelia: What is, my lord?
Hamlet: Nothing.

Get so much better when you know "Nothing" means pussy

Hell, even Rowling uses the language drift (Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure)
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>>38654711
It was pretty good. A bit shorter than I expected.
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>>38654742

It's not the "nothing" part of that which means vagina, it's "country" - "cunt-ry" matters.
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>>38651505
Go away Matt. You're being disrespectful
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>>38649245
Honour his deeds in death as we celebrated them in life.
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>>38654737
I wish there was some way to prove, or that I could ask you to prove, but fuck it.
I want to believe, and faith has a power all of its own
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>>38654796
You're retarded. Like yeah, it's cuntry, but anon is also right and you apparently didn't second guess yourself for one even tiny fraction of a moment before making a 'nuh-uh' post.

You must be one arrogant shitheel IRL.
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>>38654387
holy fuck, tears are actually welling up
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>>38649163
Stat.. Granny Weatherwax
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Does this mean I can pirate his books without feeling bad?
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>>38654796
It's both.

Much Ado About Pussy
And the entire thing after country.

And given that this is now a sticky, I'll say that I'll post the Soul Music film in all its shittily-animated glory in about 3 hours when it's finished uploading
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Here I am again, in the hat. This was in Hungary in the summer. Shit was HOT. (Keep an eye out in the scenes where Moist is going to the gallows, the scene where the race begins and the scene with the big scrying orb.)
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Now, who will Stephen Baxter doom next?
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>>38654873
You can pirate and still feel bad, you know.

Except in cases like VTM:Bloodlines, I guess.
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>>38654879
the animation is poor but the voice acting isnt.
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>>38654796
In any given shakespeare dialogue half the words can safely be assumed to be a reference to lady parts.
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>>38654910
I don't get it.
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>>38654811
>>38654909

And this is taken during one of the rehearsals; note me in the left there. The Going Postal shooting had fewer fan extras since they moved filming to Hungary for budgetary reasons, so half the extras were Hungarian. They actually just told the English speaking fans what to do and then had the Hungarians figure it out from watching us.
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>>38654303
most fans are about the discworld series but his other books are good too, Terry once told me he'd never write another book as good as Nation
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>>38654941
or dicks. he liked a good dick joke as well
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>>38654796
No, the "nothing" references vaginas.
Because, in that context, if there's "nothing" between the legs, that specifically means no penis. And if there's no penis, then there's a vagina.
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Woops, good job anon, forgetting to attach the picture.
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>>38654909
I find it hard to watch going postal seriously because it's Jeff, the man with two legs.
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>>38654943
Go take a look at the list of authors Stephen Baxter has collaborated with. Then check when those books came out.
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>>38654981
Everyone fucking loved dick jokes back then, the Internet just doesn't compare.

>>38654980
I'll have to reread it first.
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Here's something directly relevant to both /tg/ and Discworld that I found a while ago: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=37887.0

I thought some of you anons might enjoy it..
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>>38655003
Is the black guy supposed to be Nobby or Visit?
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>>38655003
Angua off to the side there

I wonder if that Watch TV series will ever happen
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>>38655011

I know, I loved Coupling and half the funny was sucked out when Richard Coyle left. He's a good actor though, just kind of doesn't get good roles very often. Remember when he was in the Prince of Persia movie? Ech..
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>>38655046
Isn't Nobby short?
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>>38655046
Nobby was in Hogfather and I saw that one
might be Visit.
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>>38654980
Nation was very much written after Pratchet knew he was going.
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>>38655065
>>38655046
Visit was in Hogfather too. He was the guy with Nobby in the department store.
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>>38655046

Visit, I believe.

This is my hat now. You can't make me give it back.
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>>38655059
I seriously hope not. Remember Mr. Pump in Going Postal? Now imagine the Dragon, Errol, Dorfl, the island of Lesp, and all the gargoyles being done with the same quality and care, because it'd be a BBC serial.
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>>38654981
That would be the other half.
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>>38654298
Never underestimate the power of English teachers to ruin a perfectly good book.
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>still no City Watch TV show
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>>38655124
The Watch series wouldn't be an adaptation of the books, and the characters from the books would probably largely be cameos.
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>>38655124

Be fair, Going Postal was done by an independent film company and financed primarily by Sky, not the BBC.
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>>38654980
You almost never see people mention The Dark Side of the Sun, with reference to his other books, despite the fact that it was excellent. That his most obscure works (such as that, Strata and the Carpet People) are still very readable is a testimony to Pratchett's skill.
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>>38649163

First Gary, now him.

I don't want to live in a world without all the writers that made our adventuerers possible in the first place!
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>>38655124
Radio plays are the best medium for Pratchett works, anyway.
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>>38655139
I'm sure now that he's dead, this will start to be more and more relevant.
They don't do this kind of shit until the author isn't around anymore to call them out on it.
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>>38655027
I sure do.
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>>38655059
They fucked Angua up so hard in that movie. She was being so brutally unsubtle about being a werewolf, and they even got her werewolf form wrong.
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>>38655229
It happens, slowly but surely.
We're getting old...
In a few years no one who saw WWII will be alive!
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>>38655154
They're supposed to be focused around the Watch though. It's not like they'll just focus Constable Ping and Constable Visit-The-Ungodly, with occasional appearances by Detritus and Littlebottom as cases go up the ladder. I mean, that'd be like Law and Order without having any prosecutors or judges.
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>>38653086
>"Do not underestimate this anger. This anger was the engine that powered Good Omens.”

I would have shit my pants.
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>>38655139
Truly English teachers are the greatest enemies of getting people to read.
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>>38655245
Discworld books' subtexts are usually pretty clear though.

There's an obvious will to examine serious themes in them.
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>>38655286
I work in a retirement community.
It's sad to watch them go one by one.
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>>38655124
Actually no.

I assume he was pretty shit though, because I remember Nobby in the Hogfather, for example
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>>38655179

Strata is a cool Pratchett riff on Larrry Niven, instead of a ringworld they find a flatworld.
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Fuck.
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Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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FUCK
I AM LITERALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW
FUCK
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>>38654711
It is a good book. Some people say the characterization is a tad off, but it did not bother me
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>>38655356
He was a man in a rubber suit.
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What Gaiman thinks:

Terry Pratchett is not a jolly old elf at all. Not even close. He’s so much more than that. As Terry walks into the darkness much too soon, I find myself raging too: at the injustice that deprives us of – what? Another 20 or 30 books? Another shelf-full of ideas and glorious phrases and old friends and new, of stories in which people do what they really do best, which is use their heads to get themselves out of the trouble they got into by not thinking? Another book or two of journalism and agitprop? But truly, the loss of these things does not anger me as it should. It saddens me, but I, who have seen some of them being built close-up, understand that any Terry Pratchett book is a small miracle, and we already have more than might be reasonable, and it does not behoove any of us to be greedy.

I rage at the imminent loss of my friend. And I think, “What would Terry do with this anger?” Then I pick up my pen, and I start to write.
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>>38655687
Seen this posted several times.

Not sure what pissed Pratchett off the most in tne real world though.
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>>38655687
Didn't terry already announce he was going to stop writing anyway?
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For Terry, /tg/.
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>>38653660
Don't do this to me. I've just stopped crying I can't start all over again.
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>>38655555
>55555
>dem quints
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>>38655731
I'm watching that as well.

Going to re-read all of the Discworld books too.
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>>38649163

Nothing like this sort of news in the morning to leave you despondent for the rest of the day.

I'll start a read of all Discworld this evening.

Rest in peace, Sir Terry.
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>>38653660
The last thing Ridcully would do is let himself go all old and Windle Poons. If he realized that was happening he'd go back to his estate and spend his final days hunting. And Unseen University would make sure they tossed someone else up into the high seat, probably Ponder Stibbons, so that they don't go back to the days of Dead Man's Pointy Shoes.
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>>38655728
Well again, according to Gaiman:

Terry looked at me. He said: “Do not underestimate this anger. This anger was the engine that powered Good Omens.” I thought of the driven way that Terry wrote, and of the way that he drove the rest of us with him, and I knew that he was right.

And that anger, it seems to me, is about Terry’s underlying sense of what is fair and what is not. It is that sense of fairness that underlies Terry’s work and his writing.

He will rage, as he leaves, against so many things: stupidity, injustice, human foolishness and shortsightedness, not just the dying of the light. And, hand in hand with the anger, like an angel and a demon walking into the sunset, there is love: for human beings, in all our fallibility; for treasured objects; for stories; and ultimately and in all things, love for human dignity.
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>>38649163
Farewell, thank you very much for everything.
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I tried to reread his books today. I stated with my old favorite, Thud!.

It hurts too much, /tg/. I don't want him to be gone.
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>>38655728
Getting Altzheimer's

That should be a joke, or some kind of exaggeration. But it's not. It's not even black humour. He could literally feel his mind going and there was nothing he could do to stop it. Ah fuck. Goddammit
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>>38655804
I feel this. I thought about rereading some, but I know that all I would be able to think about is-

"AT LAST, SIR TERRY, WE MUST WALK TOGETHER."

Terry took Death's arm and followed him through the doors an on to the black desert under the endless night.

The end.

*SOB*

I would just cry myself to sleep instead.
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>>38654387
Every damn time.
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>>38655826

There really isnt a worse feel than watching someone who shaped your youth and that you respect and adore being consumed by that which you fear the most.
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>>38655787
Read it again.

That's Ponder, and he was given the hat by Ridcully.
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>>38654561
"No one remembers the minstrel, but his song is never forgotten..."

Fuck I teared up at this.
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I'm past sadness, on that gray verge between shock, anger and despair at things that didn't happen and won't. I feel hollow. If I would sadden, then only in time. That clarity which I feel now, by itself is more terrible in magnitude and shade than all the sadness would be.
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>>38653660
I wonder how did Death react to finally meeting Rincewind on time.
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>>38650037
Support this fully
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First Nemoy now Pratchett. Fuck, getting old is hard enough without losing your icons
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>Oh boy what a nice birthday this is going to be, let's check out if there's anything cool on the /tg/
>
Fuck
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>>38649163
And now this shitty world has even less going for it than it did yesterday. Fuck.
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oh god I can't stop crying
why can't this be not true
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>>38652935
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>>38654387
Fuck you and Binky you rode in on.
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>>38654387

I need a hug...
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Opened my copy of Men at Arms, this was the first page.
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who dat
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I have a feeling that /tg/ is the last decent place on 4chan
Can any veterans tell me how bad it's gotten when compared to other boards?
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>>38655922
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>>38655003
... Is this Mr D posting?
Mr D with the double hat?
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Pratchet-inspired poem from years ago:

Music's not for pictures
painted lightly by an artist bristling with an image
at the end of a scintillating visit
to a place where's history's been
for him to imagine the kinds of memories.
I've SEEN it, up there on that goddamn stage
and I've TRIED, night after night to squeeze it
from a greasy tube in an action that I laughably call remembering.
But what happens up there
that's recollecting all the pieces.
Your mother will tell you when you're learning the alphabet's thesis
that a book can transport you places, that reading is... magic
and a way to save the date on some shit that's tragic
or perhaps a bit nostalgic, but this? No. No, this is not what you want it to be.
But there IS wizardry, and if you don't believe me, listen to the snarl of that violin,
LISTEN! to it scream an Arabic curse at that beat that started in Jerusalem.
LISTEN! to it snap at the pretty Jewish girl, whose strings are a bedlam with the classics of a heart
Whose mother never heard it spend more than a month in a casket whispering apologies in the dark.
LISTEN! to it shredding a hole in front of your eyes! And it's there!
THERE, pounding into your soul with the hum of a history that's been carried too long,
ripping you to a time to stare at the gouges your fingers leave in the chair as you are sucked into the song,
to taste the sands of a place where history's never left the moment it came upon!
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>>38656186
Cross it out and correct it.
;_;
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>>38656217
/tg/ is so far up its own ass it can't see the sun anymore. 4chan was never meant to be "decent" in the first place.
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>>38656254
MAGIC! from the charms of a pipe played with serpent's fingers along a palace wall,
crackling with a light we might call fantastic were it not for the friction we feel flowing down our arms,
or the screaming of flight or the likes of meaning rising from the mistake of a massacre that's beyond recall!
HISTORY! that questions the glow on a face tracked with tears and stains of smiling,
a boy, dancing in the hands of an old man whose white hairs are stapled with memories of better timing
on the base that built an hour in a lifetime between the frets of maple and the cinders of scribbled binders.
A story- that rumbles from your stomach like a prehistoric reminder
that brings you to the temple of god in its hunger
that peals the air in its wonder
that asks you to clap when it’s over
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>>38656217
Depends what you mean.

there's a lot of raging about off-topic threads, some of it even justified, and the occasional shitposting about muh SJWs ruining our hobby.
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>>38656258

Don't.

“No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away...”

― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man
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>>38656217
It's pretty bad out there, but frankly it reflects the state of the industry the boards themselves cover.

A good example being /v/.
I'm pretty sure I don't even have to explain why.
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>>38656260
Shush you. I'd say no tears, but that'd be a lie.
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>>38656304
And Sir Terry was a tidal wave. His books will live on.
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>>38656312
I stopped browsing /v/ only last year. At least 3 years overdue imo.
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>>38651361
>>38651419
You glorius bastards, I was standing in the rain moment ago and now I'm laughing.
Thank you.
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>>38656260
Man you have no idea how bad the rest of the boards have it. I used to frequent quite a broad range of boards and found myself browsing less and less after each year until I only come here occasionally. I showed up on /lit/ so that I'd see what they'd have to say about Pratchett and man isn't their thread awful. At least here at /tg/ I can truly feel feels.
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>>38656217
/tg/ is shit
Half the gamegroups fall apart in less than a week, quest threads are popping up more and more, less and less people actually play Warhammer, and MtG has never been more shit
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>>38656383
REMEMBER
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>>38655864
Those fucking twits holy shit

I was managing to hold up the tears until I read them
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>>38649163
literally who?
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>>38656403
WHEN
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Fuuuck, never read his stuff but I always meant to get around to it. Putting in an order on amazon right now.

RIP you gloriously bearded motherfucker.
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>>38649163

Nope, holy shit. It happened. Fuck, I only just finished reading Raising Steam. Was that his last?
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>>38656430
ALL
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>>38656454
THIS
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>>38656484
WILL
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>>38656246

No, tall guy in the black hat on the left
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>>38649163

You know, even though he said he wanted to choose his time of death, I am thankful that it never came to that, that he never had to end himself. I'm not much of a religious man, and neither was he, but that's one small blessing right there.
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Goodnight, sweet prince. Your legacy will never be forgotten
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>>38656504
BE
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Hm. This is an odd sensation for me.

I've never read a single book by Sir Terry. Never in my life. But I just keep seeing the man's work, everywhere. TVTropes, this board, /lit/ occasionally, even fucking references in Plague Inc.

And now he's gone. Just sort of... poof, y'know. No longer around. This man that has had some degree of indirect influence over me is just dead.

Weird to think about.
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>Leonard Nimoy
>Terry Pratchett

2015 a shit
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>>38656533
AGAIN.
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>>38653532
Except Sanderson can't write good dialogue. Its cringeworthy as best.
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>>38656221
This means Terry will never truly die, as long as we remember him and his legacy.

Also how would fluff the "New Watch", some of the same faces and some new ones too [these include Lance-Constable Brick, Sergeant Pessimal and Lance-Corporal Vimes (Jr)], but some of the older ones have gone...
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>>38649245
As soon as I learned about his death, I made a joke about it. It even was in ALL CAPS, too bad it didn't had pune, or play on words, in it.
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Noli Timere Messorem. May he find peace in whatever comes after.
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>>38656594
Me and a colleague were talking about it as we were walking to the pub after work this evening.

"Well, at least he died surrounded by his family..."
"Each one of them holding a syringe..."
"Literally smothered in love."
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>>38652542
>>38652542

Shit, the First Hero ewas my first Diskworld Novel. I remember finding it in the school Library, liking the senile old warrior on the cover and getting it out. And thus began my love of Diskworld.
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May his soul be bundled in the bundle of life, and he be judged in favor.
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>>38656644

Are you from south east england
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>>38656535
You totally should read one of his books some day.
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>>38656260
>/tg/ is so far up its own ass it can't see the sun anymore.
It's what bothers me most about this board.
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>>38655956

Death stands over Rincewind's deathbed, looking down at him.

Rincewind lets out a long sigh. "Oh, I guess it's finally time, then. It's been a good run, I suppose. No regrets. Except maybe not finishing that last bowl of mashers."

YOU KNOW, I STILL CANNOT TELL. THIS THING KEEPS TURNING ITSELF OVER OR FLOWING BACKWARDS. EVEN NOW, THERE IS ONE SINGLE GRAIN IN THE TOP PART THAT SIMPLY REFUSES TO MOVE.

"Oh. Well, in that case, I suppose I'll be off again! Ta-ta!"

And just like that, Rincewind jumps out of bed and rushes out the door of his old cottage.

Death looks down at the body and finally cuts the cord attaching it to the fast-moving man, who fades quickly into the distance.

WELL, THAT WENT ABOUT AS WELL AS I EXPECTED. NOW I JUST HAVE TO FIND HIM. AGAIN.
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>>38656550
Next up on the Chopping Block, 2015!

George Takei
Robert Stackpole
Jeff Bridges
Meryl Streep
Michael Caine
Orson Scott Card
And finally, George R.R Martin.

Their sands are running out, this 2015.
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>>38656550
I gave up alcohol for Lent.

I am now half way down one of those big bottles of shitty Famous Grouse. I don't even like the stuff.

With the death of T. Pritchett and Spock I think I should have given up smiling for Lent.
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>>38656713
Gilbert Gottfried too.
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For anyone who dares to call this thread off-topic:
It was stickied. That's how important Terry Pratchett is to this board. Thank you, based mod.
Goodbye, sweet prince.
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My first introduction to Terry Pratchett was through the Discworld game on the original Playstation. I fell in love with the characters and the world instantly and then sought out the books to read.

My library didn't have a bunch of his books so the first book I read was Equal Rights, which wasn't my favorite book of his but it still stands out as the first book of his I read. Second was Small Gods which too this day is my favorite, and from there I continued one.

My favorite story about Sir Pratchett though is not any of his books, but rather the man himself was interesting.

For instance when he was Knighted he decided that it was within his right to forge his own sword. So he went out and learned how to manage a forge and gathered some meteorite to put into the sword he forged.

Sir Pratchett taught me a lot about the world, he taught me not to look at it in the standard way. But also to appreciate how ridiculous and beautiful everything could be.

Thank you for all the years Sir Pratchett, it looks like Rincewind's absurd hourglass has finally lost its last grain of sand.
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>>38656559
Thank you.
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>>38655124
Get the Jim Henson company on it.

Can you imagine Farscape tier animatronics combined with the Discworld?
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>>38656691

New Zealand.
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>>38656573
Young Vimes isn't going to be a guard. For one, his father's shadow would always loom over him. And Vimes knows what it is to be a guard too well to put his son in that place, and Sybil knows it too.
Looks like he could end up being a natural philosopher of note. He's got a shitton of money, a country estate and an inquisitive mind to poke at the world. And might well discover something that turns the world on it's head.
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>>>/co/70207097
This dude predicted how it would happen.
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>>38656697
I should.

I need to read again. I remember when I did. Weekly trips to the library. Going home, snuggling up, reading. God, I was so happy then.

Now I don't. I can't remember the last time I read something non-technical. I just work, go home, play DOTA, play D&D, sleep, repeat. Maybe drink with friends in there occasionally.
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>>38656713
Stan Lee.
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Is there anything special going on when a Knight die?
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>>38656713
>George Takei

Oh no, who will hire interns to repost shit on facebook when he's gone?

Oh, wait, maybe he did something else in the last twen-

No, looks like he's just been riding the trek fame road for the last few decades.
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>>38656781
It was stickied because a bunch of people kept making these threads instead of checking the catalog.

Also, Mods=fags.
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It's sad to see him finally go.

On the brighter side he's put out so much material that mourning him properly will take a lifetime.

Hopefully he and Douglas Adams are having a fistfight in author heaven.
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Terry Pratchett has always been an inspiration of every piece of fiction I've made. Every RPG, every story, every character. There is something uniquely captivating about his ability to make things profoundly entertaining, and full of meaning and weight at the same time.

I will miss you, Sir Terry. May your walk with Death be a pleasant one, and your memory live long and fully.
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>>38656867

Naw, they are probably writing a novel for all of us to read in the afterlife.
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>>38656001

Deaths of famous people come in three's.

Who's next?
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>>38656816
Stan will live forever. He keeps draining life force from other comicbook writers, just look at Frank Miller.
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>>38656711
I can see that happening.
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>>38656934
It'll be a radio show.
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>>38656807
Had this too. One day I just realized that I hadn't touched a book for enjoyment in the last 2 years. After going to the libary and just spending my evenings with my books for a week or so I noticed that I was happier than one could image
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>>38656821
Not usually.

In this case I would suggest a cairn, trilith doorway, sarcophagus and the ceremonial breaking of his sword so he can take it with him.
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>>38649245
get into small groups with 3 sticks a chickens egg and 4cc of mouse blood to find how the guys doing there
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I'm crying. But it is a good kind of crying. Terry's books will live on, he has left quite the legacy.

Tomorrow I'm going to go to the local used book joint and buy a bunch of "starter" Pratchett books, and leave them around campus for people to find.
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>>38656934
>enter the afterlife
>Sir Terry and Douglas greet you with a book to read
>Sir David eagerly shows you the most glorious fauna the universe has to offer
>Christopher Lee is waiting when you come back, with his version of The Hobbit ready to play
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>>38656807
You totally should read one of his books today.
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>>38656937
1) /tv/ - Leonard Nimoy
2) /lit/&/tg/ - Terry Pratchett
3) /co/ - Frank Miller
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Fuckssake, this makes me so sad. The Bromeliad is one of the first things I can recall reading. The world seems a little less colorful now.

The worst part is realizing I've lost touch with any friends geeky enough to share my feels.
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>>38657015

Don't forget Tolkien, Lewis, Jordan and the others.

Also, damn you for reminding me that we'll be losing Sir David and Christopher Lee soon. Why is everyone who is good in this world so close to death?
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>>38657005
That's a bit stupid, anon.
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>>38649245
I'm up to The Truth in my Marathon sofar.
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>>38656986
>anons from /tg/ summon Death to ask about Terry
>OH, HE'S FINE. NOW, WOULD YOU MIND? WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF PLAYING VIDEO GAMES
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>>38657024
Fuck.
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>>38656867
Fight of the century. Though Adams would probably win, being two metres tall and a former bouncer.
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>>38657024
>/lit/
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>>38656950
>58
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>>38657083
Also has a sticky.
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>>38657069
Doesn't have a motherfucking meteor sword though.
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>>38657097
was actually the first board to have one.
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>>38649163
>terry pratchett is kill
holy shit, god damn it.
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>>38657069
>former bouncer

That doesn't mean much. R.A. Salvatore was also a former bouncer.
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>>38657098
And don't forget Terry's an honorary girlscout
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Tell me /tg/, for celebration's sake, what has Terry Pratchett contributed to the fantasy genre?
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>>38656550

It's rough, but both men had been ill for some time, with diseases that cause long, inexorable declines before finally letting them go. Whether you believe in an afterlife or not, it's better for them now.
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>>38657170
I...

I don't remember.
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>>38657170
A load of quality material and a way of looking at things of the sort we need more of.
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>>38657170

Seventy books over the course of thirty years, which have led quite directly to more widespread and literary acceptance of fantasy.
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>>38657024

If things continue at this rate, this year is gonna be a tragedy.

Now excuse me, I'm off to pay my respects by reading some of Terry's books.
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>>38657039
We're still here.

My parents read the Bromeliad after I brought it home. They loved the fuck out of it.
But I thought Strata was a little better, just for that Sir Pterry view of (human) life, the universe, and everything.
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>>38657199
if you can't remember thats just proof of how integrated he is into you

cherish it
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>>38657024
He's gone from looking like batista's dad to looking like Tom baker's skeleton
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>>38657170
A satirical approach to fantasy that graduated into a focus on a fantastical world based on the writer's view of human nature, rather than on "achieving a fantasy spectacle", while still remaining humorous, fantastic, and internally consistent.

Also, Narrative Causality.
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>>38657063
I wouldn't knock it.
Gygax is probably still putting the finishing touches on his campaign, now that he knows who the players will be.
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>>38656867
>If the greatest and the finest
>Have already died
>Why not simply join them
>On the other side
I still love this song.
Does anybody know, did Terry write Discworld vidya, by the way? I remember Noir being really unique for Discworld.
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>>38657331

Who will be in Gygax's Campaign?
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>>38655680
And when a dozen golems were in one shot you could see they were all cast from the same mould, with identical cracks.
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Now I will not be able to read the books about Death without crying for a good while. 2015 truly is a shit year.
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>Head over to /lit/ to see what they're saying.

I remember why I don't go to that board anymore. The pretentiousness is real.
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>>38656713
Sean Connery
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>>38657015

You made me think David Attenbrough was dead you cunt.
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>>38652363
I beg to differ. I haven't read any of the discworld novels yet. But many people recommended them to me, and the passing away of an author that has influenced such a large amount of people across all continents is always a sad thing. I suppose it's finally time to pick up some of his works.
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>>38657486
Discworld is generally great, although Terry has other works which are standalone or form short stories. If you're already at all familiar with Neil Gaiman you may want to start with Good Omens, which they wrote in collaboration.
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>>38657063
Pratchett was a massive supporter of videogames actually, as well as ones that tried to push the narrative boundary. He loved Half Life, and especially Thief. There's forum posts of him asking after good Thief fan campaigns.
He was a massive supporter of moddable games too. If I could ever find it, I have thirty solid minutes of him talking about the roleplaying adventures he got up to in TES, and constant praise for the ability of people to mod games. He wrote some stuff for a few mods. Plus his daughter was a writer for a bunch of studios.
The guy was as clever in real life as he was in books, how he wrote is exactly how he talked, and it's a rare person that can do that.
RIP Terry Pratchett, he was a huge inspiration.
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>>38657474
I had to look him up. I guess it's a britbong thing.
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>>38657543
>how he wrote is exactly how he talked
Does that mean he could speak in footnotes?
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>>38657543
Didn't he also write a bunch of lines for that one Oblivion/Skyrim companion mod?
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>>38657543
>Pratchett was a massive supporter of videogames actually
That's the joke
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>>38657576
Surprisingly, yes.
Pratchett also forged his own sword out of meteorite iron. Best guy.
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>>38657576

He was fond of asides, so basically yeah.
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>>38657556

You might not know him, but you know his voice.
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>>38657613
I'll have to look it up when I get my headphones back.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>38657650
Pretend you're doing a documentary on your own post and describing your own actions in detail, that old man voice you put on is his voice.
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>>38657024
>3) /co/ - Frank Miller

The difference is that /co/ would fucking cheer if Miller kicked the bucket.

No. if a respected comics figure is going to die it'll be someone like Alan Moore, Steve Ditko, or Jim Steranko.
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>>38656258
The only book of his I have in this house.

My camera is a potato
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>>38657687
The funny thing is /co/ pretends to hate Moore because "comics were a mistake" but they'll cry bitch tears if he actually die.
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>>38657576
He tapped his feet in morse code while he talked. Very impressive in action, although of course generally wasted when he wasn't being recorded since you couldn't really focus on both at once.
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I smiled when I got the news. He got what he wanted, to die in bed, surrounded by his family and cats. I just hope it was painless.
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>>38655555
>quints of 5

You literally put Pratchett into heaven with that shit. He was going to hell and the force of your Quints-of-Five put him in heaven.
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>>38657746

Same here. After all he went through, after all the debate over assisted suicide, in the end he didn't need any of it. He got to go quietly and peacefully.
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>>38657733
Moore's an asshole, but he did a lot for the industry.
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>>38649163
I just heard it from my friend at the FLGS.
Terry was a huge influence on my middle school years, and I think that running through his books really sustained my interest in fantasy long enough to get involved with my first D&D game.
I want to pull out a reference, but I'm sure everybody else who managed to post here before me collectively got all the good ones already. May he rest in peace.
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>>38657589
Which one?
The matter of life and death here.
>>38657543
Does anybody know if he wrote the Discworld games.
They were really good. Especially Discworld Noir.
I still remember how fun they were.
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>>38657848
God, he looks awful. Cancer or something?
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>>38657098
Meteor sword < Supernova Bomb
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>>38657024
Dude /lit/ doesn't read books. They're too busy telling each other how much novels suck dick and yelling about women.
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>>38657829
He was a co-writer and helped advise them.
Shit, I hope the Watch TV series goes through and is anywhere decent now.
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>>38657746
I've seen people I know and love die slow in hospital, anchored to this world with wires and tubes. I am glad he didn't go like that.
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>>38657768
Why would he be going to hell? I can't even think of any reason.
I guess he took lots of my valuable time? That's the only thing I can think of.
His quints ARE awesome, though.
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>>38652482
This was mine as well.
I almost feel bad for not really feeling bad, as well. I guess I kind of gradually got used to the idea that he would die soon when I first heard about his disease.
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>>38657848
He looks like Wojak in the right shot.
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>>38657880
I mean, he was an atheist. That's still grounds where I come from for not going to heaven.
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>>38657829
This one.
http://lovkullen.net/Emma/Vilja.htm
http://lovkullen.net/Emma/SkyrimVilja.htm
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I was in a cafe today when I saw the news.
I nearly cried in front of anyone, could feel myself visably upset.
Sat through two sessions of coffee with two different people supressing my sorrow.
Start reading this thread. Tears everywhere.
Thank you /tg/, from the bottom of my heart. It's not often 4chan makes by life unquestionably better, but today was that day.
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What country are you from? I'm interested in how many people in different countries read his books.
I'm a slav. Russian, to be exact.
And I still haven't actually read his books in original, besides Science of Discworld, I should really do it sometime soon.
Fans here are really passionate. Almost all of his books are translated.
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Oddly enough I've never cared much about celebrities dying and even though the recent Charlie events did shake me a bit (what with being French and all) this is the first time I feel genuinely sad. Sad as in actually, literally crying like a little bitch. Fuck this shit year, seriously.
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>>38657807
Well, that's the official story. Given that assisted suicide is still illegal in the UK I'm going to quietly suspect he did go his own way, they're just not going to say that because it would be godawful to say he died alone without his family there but they'd technically be liable for assisting suicide if they admitted being present.
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>>38657943
anon its alright, we all were influenced by this great man, even we understand when its not ok to derail shit and just need to let it happen.
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>>38657922
A good point.
But isn't it more like Purgatory?
Well, if it exists, I mean... I think the Purgatory might have been Dante's invention, but I'm not sure.
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>>38657922
Yeah, well. I'd rather be in Pterry's company in a place called "Hell" than in a place called "Heaven" that lacked it.
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>>38657966
If you think the books are still funny when translated you're in for a treat when you read the original ones.
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>>38657966
USA
Had to import over half of them to get the versions where he actually got a cut of the sale.

That reminds me I gotta order book 3 of monster blood tattoo.
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>>38657966
Dutchie here, the translated versions are pretty good here. Still better to read the originals.
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>>38657386
>Douglas Adams
>Terry Pratchett
>Leonard Nimoy
>JRR Tolkien
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>>38649163
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE
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>>38657922
Then your God is not good or right or just.

I'm a devout and practicing Catholic and I believe that God know the worth of a person better than that.

And if doesn't then he is not my God.
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>>38657966

New Zealand. Not as popular as Tolkien, but I loved them regardless. Have a fair collection beside my bed as well.
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>>38657966
Australia. Some really shit news to wake up to, I can tell you that. Fuck, it's too early for it to be raining like this.
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Utterly devestated
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>>38658035
/lit/ go back to your containment board, you arn't wanted here.
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>>38658012
this.

If anybody out there is enough of a prissy cunt to screw someone like Terry over for not being his cheerleader, then I honestly don't want their company
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>>38657966
Germany.
I have two .pdfs with all the missing puns and plain errors in our translation.
One edition of our version of The Colour of Magic has a motherfucking soup commercial in the middle.
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>>38658039

This. So much this.
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>>38657943
Somehow seeing a sticky on /lit/, /co/ and /tg/ at the same time makes me feel a little less sad because I know all of these boards are feeling with me. Fuck I'm crying repeatedly, this is the first time I ever cry for some shit like this.
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>>38658001
It's limbo, actually, that virtuous pagans go to.
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>>38655328
This. Goes with German/Spanish/Italian/whatever, respectively. The one thing that most people enjoy so much about literature is its subjectivity. Every novel, every drama, every poem means something different to different people. It makes your imagination go rampant, it makes your mind enjoy itself, it makes you discover things about yourself, the state of the world and a myriad of matters in an entirely subjective way. And teachers turn this into a fucking chore. It's interesting to see that most native English speakers I know told me that they hated Shakespeare when they HAD to read him back in school, but when they came back to him a few years later, with their own perspective on things, they enjoyed him. Same goes for Germans and Goethe/Schiller, and other great authors in their respective languages.
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>>38657966
France reporting in. As said above the translation is pretty cool for us too.

"Nobby" becomes "Chicard".

Post your own translated names.
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>>38657966
murrican here, guys pretty famous here in actuality.
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>>38657966

italian here
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>>38658069
>One edition of our version of The Colour of Magic has a motherfucking soup commercial in the middle.
wh-what?
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>>38657063
Dear gods, imagine if Death had access to the internet on the Discworld. It would be Reaper Man all over again, except this time, instead of Death's imminent "retirement" by Auditors, he'd be too enthralled by cat videos on YouTube to do his job
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Crappiest thursday so far this year.
Thanks for the laughs, mindtwists, inspiration and raw entertainment.
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>>38657966
Irish, where he's pretty popular due to how accessable prints fromt he UK are.
I need to read the last two. It's going to be so sad, but I owe him it.
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>>38658095
Death is the greatest professional there is, and he can be in many places at once.
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>>38658013
They were still funny. And I would say, fairly well translated, as far as not being intrusive goes. I'm not sure about specifics.
And of course it's better to read them in original, it always is. But I only learnt English after I already finished my Prachett-binge, and I'm kinda scared to start a new one.
Ironically, I think I actually experienced such a big burnout from reading ALL the Discworld books in a row, sometimes spending the whole day just reading and not being able to stop, that my reading habits haven't recovered ever since. I actually read a lot less now.
I'm not angry at him for that. Also, I still love to read.
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“THERE IS NO JUSTICE," said Death "JUST ME.”
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Sounds like he went peacefully. That's nice, at least.
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>>38658082

Italian translation mantains nearly everything, except for Rincewind (Scuotivento) and Carrot (Carota) which are quite literal translation and do not sound so bad
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>>38657024
/lit/ doesn't care about Terry Pratchett since he hasn't written anything about how glorious Stalin was.
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>>38658019
>monster blood tattoo

holy shit people other than me read that?
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>>38657170
a captivating universe that sings for him, poking fun at the silly ways of mankind, mixing satire and fantasy into something new.
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>>38657966
Another Russian reporting in. I was mostly reading the original versions lately. Some of the official translations are okay, but I distrust local translators on a whole, they really gone downhill recently
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>>38658093
I shit you not. It even references Rincewind. Saw it with my own two eyes.
It seems to be mentioned in an article on the Discworld wiki, but the site is down right now.
http://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Heyne
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My first Pratchett book was actually Good Omens. It influenced my view of religion and life more than anything else. And I lived through balkans war....
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>>38658197
The part that I loved was how he just took all these fantasy cliches and managed to turn them into a world that worked.
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>>38657966
UK here, so no points for distance.
On the other hand I can't remember the last bookshop that didn't have at least one of his books, not even the ones at service stations
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>>38657966
canada, although hes not as popular here as he should be, the ones that do like him are pretty gung-ho about it
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>>38658082
Nobbs becomes Schnobbs in Russian edition.
I think it actually sound a little better. It gives... associations with exactly the type of person Nobbs is for everyone who reads it.
I... think it's probably be
The others... Can't even think of anything right now.
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>>38658229

He did elves more originally than /tg/ has ever done them.
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>>38658187
Well the City Watch books feature a machiavellian dictator as a "good guy".
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>>38658149
He also can choose to not be in many places at once, and then everyone have to go and search him again.
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>>38657966
Brazil. Found out about him when I was 20, went after the translated books, gave up because the translation was terrible (and even if I hadn't given up, to this day there are only half a dozen translated books).

Three years later, I picked it up again thanks to a friend who lent me a copy of The Colour of Magic he had bought when travelling through britland.
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>>38657966
Canadian, eh! Thankfully my local bookstore had a vast number of his books.
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>>38657966
Spaniard here, most books have been translated.

>>38658082
Granny weatherwax is Yaya Ceravieja in spanish.
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As a French guy who read all the translations and all the original books I can tell you the difference is real. The translations are still very enjoyable (they're from fucking Pratchett after all) but you miss out a LOT. I have a feeling that a good translator would have to read the entirety of the series when choosing an appropriate name for, say, Nobby so that they can find a good compromise for all the puns.
>"it's Nobbs without a K sir, it's amazing how people always misspell it"
>"he looks more nobbly than nobly, don't you think?"
etc.
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>>38654002
>>38649944
There's a new version coming too, I think
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>>38658229
modern problems and solutions in a fantasy world. many tried, he got it right.
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>>38654856
If it has stats you can kill it.
And you know you can't.


Actually, when it will be time for her, it will be more along the lines of:
MADAM, IT IS TIME.
...
MADAM, I BELIVE WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IS CALLED "GETTING CLOSE TO THE GIGGLE"
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His name is Robert Paulson.
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>>38658229
It was genuinely brilliant. There was this duality between the stories and the "reality" of the disc. On one hand, Narrative Casualty is a well-documented phenomenon. On the other hand, a constant theme is that what people say never really matches with reality.

They don't conflict, they intertwine and dance throughout his books and I love Terry's works for that.
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>>38658286
Well, more a bad guy who's on the opposite side to the other bad guys.
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>>38658039
Fellow Catholic here, can confirm.

I didn't even know Pratchett was atheist until I read some interviews with him. His devotion to how humanity can and should improve itself is perfectly in line with Classical Humanism.
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>>38658300
>Brazil.
Shit, now I'm thinking about how fucked up I'm going to be when Terry Gilliam dies.
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>>38658286
You could kind of liken Mad Lord Winder (or was it Snapcase?) to Stalin.
Killed his predecessor, ruled with an iron grip, maybe died under suspicious circumstances.
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>>38649163
IT IS TRUE

SORRY
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>>38649163
Every other living human being just became, on average, a slightly more terrible person.

This year so far is awful. Can we just go back to 2014 and start over?
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At times like this the image of old Sergeant Kepple floated across his memory. He'd been head of the Watch when Vimes was a recruit. And, soon afterwards, he retired. They'd all clubbed together and bought him a cheap watch, one of those that'd keep going for a few years until the demon inside it evaporated.

Bloody stupid idea, Vimes thought moodily, staring at the wall. Bloke leaves work, hands in his badge and hourglass and bell, and what'd we get him? A watch.

But he'd still come in to work the next day, with his new watch. To show everyone the ropes, he said; to tidy up a few loose ends, haha. See you youngsters don't get into trouble, haha. A month later he was bringing the coal in and sweeping the floor and running errands and helping people write reports. He was still there five years later. He was still there six years later, when one of the Watch got in early and found him lying on the floor . . .

And it emerged that no-one, no-one, knew where he lived, or even if there was a Mrs Kepple. They had a whip-round to bury him, Vimes remembered. There were just guards at the funeral . . .

Come to think of it, there were always just guards at a guard's funeral.
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>>38658345
Oh dammit, this moment in the Russian version.
Remember how I told you Nobby was Schnobby in Russian?
Well, the new translator used the first line exactly to fix that.
When I first saw that, I thought he actually added it in by himself. But apparently not.
And so it turned out Russians can't spell Gnobby's name, I guess.
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>>38649163
I don't drink.
I stopped drinking the hard way.
I'll raise a glass to him tonight anyway.
Good night, good sir. Thank you.
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>>38658479
You want Robin Williams to die twice?
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>>38657966
From Italy, he's pretty popular here, almost all fa/tg/uys have read his series.
There are translations, some are quite decent too, but I stick to the originals. Gotta fight the steretype that Italians can't into English... and they are just too great not to!
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>>38658480
Oh god.
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>>38658455
Did he actually do a single bad thing during the novels, though?
I don't even remember him executing anybody who did not deserve it.
Well, except mimes. But it's not like I trust them much myself.
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>>38658510
I wouldn't recommend it. He probably wouldn't have wanted it.
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>>38657543
Now i'm envisioning a open-ended Discworld RPG in the style of Morrowind. That would get all my $AM
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>>38649163

I like to think that a thousand years from now, in a post-apocalyptic world, a group of scholars and archaeologists will set out with only fragmentary records and half-remembered stories of the old world to seek out the tomb of a legendary storyteller and bard of the world before.

Arrayed against them are thieves and dark wizards who would seek to claim the bard's otherworldly blade and turn its power to foul ends.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watch_(TV_series)

It's being shot this year.
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>>38658516
>immediately think "Yes, because we'd have him for another 7 months."
>remember that he an heroed
>must have had months if not years of depression and shit behind it
>fuck me the feels
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>>38658555
I think it's because Vetinari had such a cynical and large-scale view of the world and humanity that it was hard to imagine him as a good guy.
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>>38658093

Oh yeah I heard about that one. Apparently it was semi-common practice among publishers at the time to put product placements in books, either insert cards or literal text edits. When Terry saw it, he ripped his German publisher a new one and never worked with them again. I hear the practice isn't so common any more.
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>>38658555
That's because most of the people who deserved it also plotted against him.
There's plenty of points where he just does what he wants because he's a dictator, and makes it quite clear that he's holding Moist hostage.

>>38658597
Pratchett himself said that probably would never work. Discworld is about stories, free-form, open world just doesn't work.
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SQUEEEEK
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it's tears all the way down ;_;
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>>38658534

Italians have a stereotype of not getting into english?
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>>38658686
Isn't there an (unofficial, obviously) Discworld MUD?
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>>38658686
>he's holding Moist hostage.
We can like Moist all we want but you have to remember that he is a criminal that ruined peoples lives and is still sentenced to death.
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>>38658681
Weird.
Was this Germans being Germans, or incestuous publishing companies being incestuous publishing companies?

Either way, good on Sir P.
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I'm a grown ass man, sitting at home with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g
on repeat, a scotch on the table infront of me, bawling my fucking eyes out. What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>38658300
Oh, forgot to add that,when I picked it up again, I read everything in English, instead of trying the national versions again.

>>38658464
I'm beginning to wonder about who else I'm going to miss when people start dropping like flies. Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen, David Bowie, the British Invaders (Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Warren Ellis and Garth Ennis), Bernard Cornwell, William Gibson, Jostein Gaarder, a handful of national writers...
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>>38658555
I always thought of vetinari as another example of 'good is not nice' he doesnt go in for unnecessary cruelty but is fine with necessary torture, and has done a great deal of good for the city.

its hard to imagine vetinari killing without cause or with more than simple satisfaction at a job well done
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>Raising Taxes will never be finished

It hurts to live. I fucking love Vimes, but Moist is mah boi.
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>>38658451
His name is Robert Paulson.
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>>38658727
Wasn't that his whole character development in Going Postal? Realizing just how much harm he did with his thievery and fraud, wondering why people support him so much when's he's all flash and no substance?
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So, uh, as someone who has always heard good things about Sir Terry Pratchett but has never had a chance where would one start to read?
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>>38658756

The future looks so bleak.

All we can do is hope some of our number rise up to replace them. I write a lot and harbour dreams of writing for people, and I can't be alone.

Who knows, in 25-50 years there'll be a bunch of people from /tg/ writing the big fantasy books for the world.
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>>38658637
I really hope it's good

I really, really hope it's good. Good enough for people who have never heard of Discworld to watch it. Good enough that we'll be rewatching it out of nostalgia in twenty years.
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>>38658703
Ook
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>>38657966
Malaysian. Started when I saw some his books at a local library
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>>38658784
Yes, but he still committed crimes and is sentenced to death. He is a good person now, but that does not take away what he did.
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>>38658756
Sirs Lee and McKellen are both pretty old.

Lee's over 90, though I understand he keeps in very good shape
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>>38658769
>he doesnt go in for unnecessary cruelty
Unless you're a mime.
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>>38658722
Yeah, it's okay.

>>38658810
Pratchett's daughter can emulate him somewhat. Plus it has a lot of Monty Python guys writing for it.
It might be good. The reason why so many of the Discworld movies weren't so good was because they were adapting novels that basically push the literary boundary as much as they good, and so many of the asides are lost in translation.
But with original storylines, they have a chance to let it flow much nicer.
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>>38658787
Start at around Pyramids, read up to Lords and Ladies, then go back to Colour of magic and finish the rest in order.

I say this because the first four books or so are, whole good, fairly discordant with the feel of the series as a whole.
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>>38649163
RiP
:(
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>>38658776
I really love the Moist books too.
They were proof that even though the quality of his books might have dropped a bit in the later years, he could still provide some great stuff.
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>>38658787
Just read them in order. You get the vague interest, the worldbuilding, and a taster of the style from the first Rincewind novels, then you hit a high point as he really gets going with Mort and Equal Rites, and then it just keeps on getting better and better from there, until you get really far into it, and then it simply becomes good, rather than incredible.
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>>38658835
Is the purpose of law to punish wrongdoers or protect the innocent?
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>>38658862
Mimes are themselves a form of unnecessary cruelty.
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>>38658787

The thing about Discworld is its not necessary to start at the beginning, so to speak. Each book is self-contained and only slightly refers to other ones. You can do pretty well just picking up the first one you find.
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>>38658862
>cruelty to mimes
>unnecessary

you've lost me, anon.
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>>38658787
There was already a chart in this thread, search for it.
It's a bit outdated, though. Some books are missing, but they are mostly continuations of these series.
Discworld also had pretty good vidya adventures, if you're interested, I guess.
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>>38658787
I started with Guards! Guards!, you don't really need much prior knowledge to know what's going on so it's a good place to start
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>>38658686
>There's plenty of points where he just does what he wants because he's a dictator, and makes it quite clear that he's holding Moist hostage.

sure he acts as a dictator, but he never acts out of hand and always for what he perceives to be the good of the city, for example with moist he is trying to projects at once, one the reform of Moist, a capable but criminally inclined man who if not reformed will have to be killed, and secondly the reform of the cities post office and other essential services.

he uses his power, but sparingly and for the good of the city and in the longer run for the good of his tools
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>>38658686
>There's plenty of points where he just does what he wants because he's a dictator,
The only thing Vetinari ever did that WASN'T expressly for the good of Anhk-Morpork, at least once Pterry got a handle on his character, was to torture mimes.

Everything else we ever see or hear of him doing he does to make the city a prosperous and functional city. He doesn't line his pockets with gold on the side or try to turn the Watch into his own gang of thugs and assassins or any of the shit real world dictators always end up doing.
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>>38658889
Both.
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>>38655787
>>38653660
>>38655886
It's bitterly ironic, because back in The Last Continent, Ponder Stibbons did temporarily grow incredibly old due to time fuckery (most of the other members of the faculty turning into kids).

>"Ow..." Ponder slumped to his knees. "It was like wearing a lead suit!" I never want to go through *that* again."

>"Suicide's your best bet, then," said Ridcully.

He wrote that back in 1998, long before his alzheimers even was diagnosed.
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>>38658787
>Guards Guards
>Wyrd Sisters
>Mort
Are all good starts to sub-series

Pyramids
Small Gods
Are both good standalones.

Small Gods in particular, now that I think about it, is very good, but you can start anywhere and it'll be alright.
Well, the first and last few aren't his best work.
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>>38658911
>>38658897
Well, that was a quick rebuttal.
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>>38657966
NZ.

I still have my incredibly battered copy of Night Watch.
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>>38658787

>>38652657
There's a timeline, but you can actually read them out of order and still get them. I read the watch stories all jumbled up, starting with Feet of Clay, going to Thud!, back to Guards! Guards!, then The Fifth Elephant, Night Watch, Jingo, Men at Arms, and finally capped the ending with Snuff.
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Guys, I think we should stat him. No owlbear stats. Any system.
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>>38658961
What do you expect of Vetinari?
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>>38658787
Guards Guards is the go to, but you can pick pretty much any of them and be perfectly fine. There is a persistent world and characters, but they're done in such a way that anyone coming into the series can enjoy the book just fine.

Heck, I recommend not reading them in order. It was WAY more enjoyable rereading Going Postal after I found out about Vimes and the gang a few years later.
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>>38659040
Actually I think Mort is the best. It does a good job of introducing a few key elements, it's definitely where the series first found its footing, and it's short enough.
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>>38656713
>Orson Scott Card

And nobody will weep.
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>>38658966

Same. My mother brought me 'A Slip of the Keyboard' and 'Mrs Bradshaw's Handbook' for my Birthday. She knew how much I loved his works.

I might disagree with some of what Sir Terry said, but I admire him regardless. I hope he's in a better place, regardless of what he believed or not.
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>>38657966
Denmark.

I think a couple of his books has been translated to Danish, but with this kind of writing you really need to read them in the original language.
So many puns or play on words.
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>>38658754

You are a grown-ass man *, with grown-ass man emotions. It's edgy 13 year olds who go "so what? what's the big deal just because some guy died lol"

* Though I'm not so sure about the vidjeo game soundtracks
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>>38658721
AFAIK we're considered bad english speakers abroad.
And... it's not completely wrong, many just don't care about the language.
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>>38658756
Ellis ain't even 50 yet. Neil & Morrison are only like in the early 50s.

Christopher Lee is legitimately ancient though.
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>>38659067

I'm not as bullish about it as most people are, but it's a damned good book as well and would be a fine place to start. I think it's something to do with how Moist and Vimes are aware of the world and how it works in its weird way. Death does as well and in a much bigger way, but M&V are more relatable.
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>>38658345
Yeah, the translations for these things are hugely hit or miss (and even then, for a given value of 'hit').

I remember reading somewhere that while there ARE Japanese translations for the Discworld books, they're so off-base that it's depressing.

I'll have to look it up again, but the one example I remember is how, in Mort, they translated Death as deeply disliking cats.
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>>38657966
New Zealand.
A mate gave me Mort to read and I just fell in love with Discworld
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>>38659071
say what you will, but he was one of my first sci-fi authors.
I'll weep.
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>>38652880
You shut your fucking mouth you nigger-faggot
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>>38659141
>Death
>disliking cats
what
Poor nips. They haven't been able to find enlightment yet, unfortunately.
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>>38659081
*punes
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>>38659141

That's.. Wow.
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>>38659141
That reminds me - I do love that cover depicting Twoflower as having four eyes.
The artist didn't get the four-eyes = glasses joke, so he thought he actually had two pair of eyes.

Even English speaking people can get it wrong. There's a fuckload of hidden gems in those books.
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>>38659141
That being said in pani poni dash discworld is referenced in one episode.
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>>38658787
Read Equal Rites, then skip Mort and go on to Wyrd Sisters, read up to Moving Pictures in order, but skip Eric.

Then, go back and read The Colour of Magic, The Light Fantastic, Sourcery, and Eric. Then read Mort.

Then, continue from Reaper Man onwards.

The reason for this is because the Death books are much better experienced when you are already used to Death showing up as a background character, which makes the exploration of him as a character much more intriguing. A lot of people will disagree with this order in that it is a *lot* of Rincewind to read back to back, but I find that it just juggles your sense of pacing a little bit, which makes for excellent contrast when you switch back to the Death books.

It's a bit of a weird order, but that's how I usually recommend it, and it's worked out well so far. Your mileage may vary, though.
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>>38659092

I do.

I mean I play Grezzo 2 all the time.

And... Well your food is really good!
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>>38652880

I am gay and even imo you are a colossal flamign faggot
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Fucking...

I remember finding out about Discworld by playing the videogames when I was a kid. A good couple of years later I got into the books, starting with Reaper Man. I looked up to Vimes, was one of the characters who shaped my general personality and outlook, and Night Watch is the only book to date to not just make me feel like crying (Joe Abercrombie managed this some times) but I actually cried.

Like now, I shed a tear, I'll miss this lug. Another one of my heroes that died before I had the grace of meeting them.

But I'll just continue reading and learning lessons through them, just how he'd want it. Good he isn't suffering anymore.

And hey, he died with his cat sleeping on his bed. That's just fucking boss, right lads?
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>>38659141
My girlfriend is Chinese and it makes me sad that she'll likely never "get" the novels.
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>>38658998
If I remember correctly, my reading order started off with Thief of Time -> The Fifth Elephant -> Thud! -> Going Postal.

I don't remember what order I've been reading them since them, but I do know that I've loved every second of it.
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>>38659127
I'm just listing, from the top of my head, some people I might miss.

I know the chances of most of them dying soon is slim at best (especially the younger ones, like you mentioned), but it would not make things much easier if they died of old age.

Hell, I was shocked with Giger's death last year and he was already a septuagenarian. Gibson is as old as Pterry, and Cornwell is already past the 70 barrier.
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>>38658927
>>38658933
Hey, it's still a peculiar case because Vetinari created a system that can only works with people as disinterested as himself in charge.

... and now we'll never know what he planned for the succession.
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>>38659229
>start with Equal Rites, a book that is nothing but Granny Weatherwax Acts Out of Character For A few Hundred Pages

The hell is wrong with you?
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>>38659205
Dammit, you're right!
Guess I'll go and toast my figgin on a spike...
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>>38659306
I think he was at the very least planning multiple people as his successors.
That is, a bunch of people (Moist heading the civil services, Vimes the police, etc) that were operating well enough without his help that when he did finally die the city would still be able to work.
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>>38659292
>Giger's death last year
Oh fuck I forgot about that. It was like losing Frank Franzetta all over again.
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>>38659235
exactly, at least the food is good.
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>>38657966

American here, California born and raised. Introduced to them through my sister with the few books she picked up. After reading my first couple, I quickly filled in the rest of his collection as I was able to from the scifi/fantasy sections of used bookstores, eventually getting to his harder to find works at bookstores. The closing of Borders books was not only mourned by me because it was our only large local bookstore where I went to college, but because I had put Snuff on order, and I couldn't get around to picking it up in time.

Shit, looking back, I was never really enthusiastic about books until I read Sir Terry Pratchett's works. He's the author that's responsible for everything I've read and everything I've learned from it. My early school days were terrible at teaching me to read, so much so that they tried to put me in the remedial class. I rarely read after that, books were always too much effort and carried that sort of resentment of the poor reading program I was in. I read for fun now, that's something I couldn't have imagined before Sir Pratchett.

Fuck me, I'm crying. I'm actually crying
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>>38657966
Sweden. Picked up the books in english because there's no other way to read them.
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>>38657923
Did anybody play this one?
I want to try the Skyrim version out.
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>>38659306
>and now we'll never know what he planned for the succession.
>implying that Vetinari hasn't been a vampyre for years
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>>38659292
fuck, Gibson too?
I thought he was already in the bag.
That will be a sad day.
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>>38659417
I played one of her mods for Morrowind and was pretty impressed at the time, I think.
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>>38659339
It's still worth reading, and going back to it after reading her in any of the other books is going to dampen everything up till then. Best get it out of the way quickly.
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>>38659424
Well he did have a vampire waifu...

who wore pink fluffy jumpers
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>>38659306its not like the system worked before he took over, he would be leaving a city where most of the major players had a vested interst in maintaining the status quo and as >>38659365 pointed out he was leaving areas of the city under the control of individuals who could be relied upon to make them work and to work together
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>>38659424
well, he is in a relationship with a vamp, isn't he? maybe vampirism is an STD.
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>>38659467
Was Terry involved in the Morrowind mod in any way?
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>>38659489
Nope, he started with Oblivion.
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>>38659424
I thought about the chances of him getting his vampire "girlfriend" to make him undead, but I can't really see that happening. It seems a bit too selfish for him.

Perhaps he would want to introduce democracy (probably with some justification, like how the politicians would be too busy arguing and fighting each other to do any harm to the city folks, who'd just get on with their lives)?
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>>38659509
Then if you were impressed by the Morrowind one, the Skyrim one is probably god-tier.
Mod saved.
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>>38659306
I think he planned on making Ankh-Morpork run autonomously by inserting capable people into key positions, and then dying quietly outside the limelight.

Make the system so self-reliant that nobody even notices he's gone until years after the fact.
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>>38659424
>vampyre
he's smart enough to know what happens to Vampires that try to have it all.
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I need do dump this pics
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>>38659479
I loved Margolotta, in public full Dark Lady stereotypical vampire, in private, full house wife mode.
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>>38659549
>tfw 10 years after he's gone the Guilds finally remember they haven't seen him for a long time
>wait he was dead?
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>>38659474
Nah, best to treat it like it is; a bit of early series weirdness.

Best saved for later once you know the characters better and feel like being a completionist.
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>>38657966
Sweden, borrowed the first book from my brothers friend, it was in swedish and then when I sought out the books on my own I made sure to get them in english.
Read the first one in 8th grade iirc.
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>>38659612
>Nah, best to treat it like it is; a bit of early series weirdness.
Yeah, like how Vetinari is a decadent moron in one of the Rincewind books.
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>>38659591
Most housewives aren't as diabolical as her though. Most.
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>>38657966
There was only one thing remote good about those translations, and it was Ceбя-Peжy-Бeз-Hoжa Дocтaбль.
Do yourself a favor, read originals. The occasion is right and you're in in for a treat, I guarantee that much.
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>>38659509
do you happen to know what all in oblivion he was involved in aside from craftybits and vilja?

>>38659543
emmas mods were pretty highly praised in both morrowind days and oblivion, so I wouldnt be surprised if the skyrim ones were good too
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>>38659417

I've played it, it's a fantastic companion mod.
Fair warning, Vilja has a pretty strong scandinavian accent, so if that bugs you, you'd be best deleting the voice files and using Universal Silent Voice to just get subtitles.

>>38659509

Really? I thought I heard something about him and the Morrowind one. Maybe it was just that he liked it a lot?
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>>38657966
Bongland.
Aunt gave me The Colour of Magic and the rest is history.

Proud owner of a signed Feet of Clay first edition. Nobody is getting their hands on that one.
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>>38658074
I don't think there's ever been a sticky on three boards for one person before, has there?

Terry really did make the world a better place.
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>>38659649
Oh, CPБH.
Is he really that much better/just as good in translation?
I read them before I knew English. I didn't learn it that long ago; couple of years at best.
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>>38657966
Finland
Yes
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>>38657966
Serbia.
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>>38659657
>do you happen to know what all in oblivion he was involved in aside from craftybits and vilja?
Not particularly. I know he liked the romancing of Eyja mod, and mods where you could do non-combat things. He said he crashed the economy making boots.
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>>38659702
Proofpics or didn't happen.
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>>38652690
The name is Armok
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>>38655731
I guess it's time for me to watch it.

I posticipated it long enough.
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>>38649163
Man I only really discovered Diskworld this year. I had been meaning to get around to reading his stuff, but I put it off. When I read it, I loved it. The books were both witty, charming and funny, but they still managed to have a gripping story line, and memorable characters. I'm going to miss this guy.
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>>38659718
Amazingly, we were the last to get one.

Of course we filled two past the bump and had about six others on the board (filthy non-catalogue scum), with many calls for a sticky, but I guess the mods were asleep
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>>38659702
>Proud owner of a signed Feet of Clay first edition.

I know it's nowhere near as spectacular, but I'm happy as fuck that I've got an autographed picture of the Librarian.
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Farewell. You will be missed.
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>>38659083
>Though I'm not so sure about the vidjeo game soundtracks
Yeah, no. There are some really fucking talented composers in the video game industry, and the particular song linked is... well, listen to it and decide for yourself, yeah? It's probably not what you'd expect from the title. (Sure as hell wasn't what I expected.)
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He was a big guy.
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>>38659827
disCworld, you fucking pleb. Not DISKWORLD.

Fuck you. You're the kind of miserable cunt who doesn't know the difference between the they(pl) series. You probably keep vegemite in your fridge and coffee on the counter.

There's something fucking wrong with you.
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>>38659596
>He makes people believe he's become a vampire
>Through simple expedients as never being seen in sunlight, occasionally and "unintentionally" swapping Ws with Vs and calling blood "ze b-word", he manages to create a worldwide rumor that he's a vampire, although no one ever brings that up in fear of retaliation
>Vetinari dies
>The city continues to work without him for decades before someone notices
>ANkh-Morpork becomes the first Anarchy to ever work
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Ooh, I just remembered how I was introduced to Pratchett's books. My dad bought himself an old PDA and pirated shitton of books from the internet on his work, several Discworld books among them. So he was reading them, giggling like crazy and reading me some choice bits, so I decided to just read them myself to see what's all the fuss is about. In the end, my dad didn't became a fan of PTerry (though he liked "Mort" a lot), but I did.
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>>38659839
>>38659754
sadly, the signed part was wishful thinking on my part when I remembered I had it, but it is first edition, and I'm happy with that.
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>>38659919
They're not too hard to get, I have around ten first edition signed copies. Including that one special edition of making money.
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>>38659887

All according to keikaku.
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>>38649172

I'd say the same but turtles have no shoulders on which to cry.
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>>38659876
Dear lord...
Pratchett was a baneposter
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>>38657966
Argentinian. The books helped me learn English when I was young
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>>38659876

https://books.google.fi/books?id=idCc05w7_t4C&pg=PT90&dq=what+happens+if+i+go+and+pull+his+nose+whispered+granny&hl=fi&sa=X&ei=pCcCVcGqGOWGywP364GICw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=what%20happens%20if%20i%20go%20and%20pull%20his%20nose%20whispered%20granny&f=false

EBIN
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>>38659365
>>38659306
I noticed that Moist was getting a lot of power over city services. Maybe Vetinari was planning to turn him into his successor? Moist in the charge of the city wouldn't be that different from Vetinari - Vetinari is "this guy is kinda scary, but he's effective and he gets the shit done, and we don't have anyone to replace him anyway", Moist would be "this guy is kinda sleazy, but he's charismatic and he gets the shit done, and we don't have anyone to replace him anyway".
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>>38649753

Those yard-sign "take a book/leave a book" libraries are quite the thing in the area we live.

This is actually a possibility.
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>>38659998
It's bigger than that, anon.

He's primordial Bane.
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>>38659876
>>38659998
>>38660014

I can't think of anything funnier at this moment. I'm giggling with tears in my eyes.
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>>38659649
Also, there is another good thing about the translation.
Namely, covers.
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>>38658722
Yup, it's pretty good.
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>>38652577
>Small Gods.
Dubs speaking truth
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>>38660079

Missing a rider.
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>>38660093
>small gods, big guys
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I always thought it was a bit strange when people get properly sad about celebrities who they don't know dying. I've been sad about this kind of thing before but never more than "Oh that's a shame".

A man I never met died and I had to go to the toilet at work when I found out just so I had somewhere private to cry.
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>>38660079
Wheres Ronnie?
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>>38659881
I spelled it as Discworld at first, but spell check yelled at me so I guessed. Spelling isn't my strong point, calm down.
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>>38660096
he's out delivering milk.

Now I just remembered that Thief of Time was my first Discworld book and promarily the reason I never really had an Edgelord phase. I loved the characters too much to think that edgy was cool.
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George R. R. Martin is next.
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>>38654385
>anti-intellectualism

No, anon. Vaunting the opinions of those who do nothing except critique, or simply needing a canned opinion in the first place is the height of anti-intellectualism.

Besides have you seen the type of people that go into reviewing? Total losers.
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fuck.
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>>38660176
People who get really sad have usually been touched by their work in some way.
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>>38660176
>A man I never met
We read his books.
That's a close and personal contact, closer than those guys you see and sometimes talk to at the pub.
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>>38660218
We'll be told he's dead, but it won't actually be confirmed until a decade later when his corpse is released to the underwhelming disappointment to everybody who expected anything other than a dead old man.
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>>38658076
Wasn't Limbo abolished by the Catholics last year?
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I'm sorry a guy you like is dead /tg/. I know that feel.
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>>38660229
Honestly, it really depends on the critic.

If it is a genuine professional, one capable of reviewing in context of the work they're looking at as opposed to wanting every book to conform to the exact structure they're used to, then their opinion is worth considering.

If you do what /lit/ tends to do, and cherry pick a famous person and/or general pretentious twat that thinks literature should be a check list, then their opinion is worthless.
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>>38659742
Ah yes, that economy crash is from the oddly set default price of leather boots and wolf fur boots, making massive fortunes off of the very common materials.
that would be in reference to craftybits which I was a part of

he spent a great deal of time breaking all our systems as hard as he could, his kitchens were constantly literally erupting with cheese, cakes, and potatoes since he was building them in such large numbers at a time that the scripts would trigger in a weird way and when the cell reset, the products he'd already made and picked up would be remade and fill the cell en masse
he's also the reason some of the other systems we made exist like beekeeping was mostly made from his suggestions and information.

some people think hes an elf, some people think hes a grump, but I think he was just an old guy with his own ideas on what fun is.
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>>38660310
>go on /lit/ to see what their take on Prachett is
>start to browse an unrelated thread
>LOL UTILITARIANS ARE ALL NECKBEARD FEDORIAN RETARDS GET MEMED ON
>leave, never look back
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>>38660283
Meanwhile God is sitting on his throne and going "Well fuck, does this mean I demolish it or what? Fuck, should never have given the pope power of attorney."

>>38660218
He better have a dead man's switch that reveals the full plot. Or at least a note that says "Made it up as I went along. No idea how to end it. Sorry."
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>>38660335
Dammit, it sounds awesome.
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>>38660335
He once said that writing was the most fun one could have with their clothes still on.
It was nice that he appreciated what mods could do.
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>>38660176
Because Pratchett made the world a better place. He was an amazing person, and we were all privileged to have existed upon the same globe as he did, let alone as a member of the same species. I don't weep for a lost friend, I weep for the sort of benevolent grace and goodness that shall never again be seen upon our mortal coil.
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>>38660335
This post did it.

I heard Prachett died and it made me regretful, but not really sad. Like in the way you feel when a co-worker tells you their parent died. You say "I'm sorry", and you are sorry on an intellectual level, but you don't really FEEL it. Your sympathy is genuine, but it isn't deep and heartfelt.

But knowing the old bastard played TES, and fucked around with it? That his daughter makes mods for the games I play? That he and I shared a hobby? Fuck, man. That makes it real.

I'm gonna go sit with my dogs for a while.
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>>38660335
I like the idea of Pratchett trying to break TES games and mods. The mental image of him carefully arranging that enchanting/alchemy feedback loop in Skyrim is pleasing.
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Noli timere messorem.
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>>38660218
>Robert Jordan is next
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>>38660437
I'm trying to find it (hard because it's on an old camera) but like I said I've got thirty something minutes of him talking about his adventures in TES.
Apparently one of the cornerstones of his money-making empire was blackbow cave or whichever in Oblivion. He would go there with a caravan and some mercenaries, periodically "harvest" the bandits, then resell their bows for money.

>>38660436
His daughter actually writes for games, doesn't make mods for them.
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>>38660366

The show writers already have his basic outline and the abridged version of his plot bible.
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>>38660436
How old are your dogs again?
Give 'em a treat and a scratch from me.
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>>38659613
>MustrumRidcully.jpg
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>go to /lit/
>walk into sticky
>haha i'm so glad less garbage
>why is this stickied? genre fiction is not literature
>200 pages of some argument about g factor

What the fuck even is this board
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I recently wanted to get into Terry Pratchett, but for the next few months I won't be able to read his books without people assuming it's because he died.

Oh well, at least I can start watching the original Star Trek now.
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>>38649163
Can't say this really fazes me, I've been prepared for him to die for... fucking as long as I've known about him really.

Still sad, bu this is hardly a surprise.
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RIP, Terry.
Your work rubbed me the wrong way, but I still have immeasurable respect for what you did for Fantasy.
Godspeed, you literary giant.
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>>38660506
you could try the audiobooks.
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>>38660506
Man, fuck everything right now.

Someone is probably working on a Watch version that leaves an old and sad Carrot at the table just for the tasty tear harvest.
And if not they should be. I need something to cry over. Tears don't come easy.
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>>38660506
Why would you care about that, anon? They're great books. You should go and read them right now. You'll enjoy them, I'm sure.
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>>38660506
>I won't be able to read his books without people assuming it's because he died.
People assuming that is not wrong, but maybe your experience of them would be too affected by his recent passing.
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>>38660506
Don't worry what people think. My entire family had gotten stares from people in airports and shit because they were laughing out loud while reading his books
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>>38660563
I like reading.

Also I know how petty it sounds, but this kind of thing does get annoying. "OH, ARE YOU READING THAT BECAUSE YOU SAW THE FILM?" I ain't no pleb, bitch. I'll watch the film after.
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>>38660466

My sincerest hope is to someday be significant enough to earn a family crest.
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Has anyone here ever made dwarf bread?
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>>38660618
I found a rock on the ground once, does that count.
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>>38660571
>>38660587
>>38660600
Thanks guys, for some reason I anticipated more asshole-ish responses.

They do seem exactly like my kind of books, I have no clue why I've never picked one up until now. Guess I'll order a few before they all go out of stock.
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>>38660618
I bashed my face on a cliff I was climbing down once, does that count?
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>>38660500

It's not /tg/, that's for sure.
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>>38660606
>I'll watch the film after.
Why I decided to watch TOS a few years back when they rebooted trek.
Also why I have only seen one season of GoT, because I've only read the first book.
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>>38650100
>dubs
>defending double dubs
The Lord has spoken, and I shall follow and smite the heretics who dare blaspheme!
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>>38660618
I made dried frog pills to the official cookbook once. Oddly more-ish. Taste weird. Would use to calm overly excitable wizards again, 9/10.
Bitch to make though.
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>>38659942
Man, the only one I have is Monstrous Regiment.
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I literally just cried for the past hour since I found out. Fuck. I was having a pretty crappy day already, but this was like dropping a ton of rectangular building things on me.
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>>38660611
I just want this to be my University's coat of arms
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>>38657966
Hungarian, i read the originals after the hungarian versions, which were great
However they switched publishers and translators, and have gone to shit afterwards (around man at arms i believe)
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>>38660563
how do the audiobooks handle the footnotes?
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>>38660764
they usually read them directly after the sentence in which it's linked to, and mostly in a different enough tone/inflection for you to know it's there.
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It's time to take this off the shelf and finally read all three of them. Looking at it feels odd now. I hope he met Death of Discworld in the end. I imagine it would be comforting.
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>>38660764
Pretty well, its like a echo sounding out from far away.

The audiobooks have aged a bit though, still good.
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>>38660754
Now you see it/Now you don't.

I want to be a wizard. Eating big meals and peering through omniscopes is my idea of a good life.
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>>38660754
If I remember rightly the motto is:
Now You See It
Now You Don't
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>>38660611
>tfw your family already earned one before immigrating to america.

But seriously, earning a personal coat of arms is pretty fucking badass.
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>>38660827
>instead, meets Gaiman's Death
"Oh cock. Lost that bet."
>"If it's any consolation, I liked your interpretation too."
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>>38660827
>Death has an itch on his back and he's reaching to scratch with his left arm.

Can't unsee.
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>>38660699
>dubs again
Dammit.
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>>38660647
>I anticipated more asshole-ish responses.

This is still 4chan, expecting assholes is part of the experience.

/tg/ might not be the sanctuary of love, acceptance and friendship some people try to pass it off as, but it's still one of the nicest boards around.
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I always watch this, when a famous and valuable person dies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6R_rRG_W4Q
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>>38660500
Why not just delete /lit/ at this point? It has no real interest in books other than as social capital. The main goal is to just read more, less-known stuff so they can feel superior to others on the board.

The ones who are more informed or read more advanced stuff spend most of their time letting the rest of the board know that they do and using their taste as leverage to get their fifteen minutes of online pseudo-notoriety. Ultimately /lit/ consists of people who aren't as smart as they think but make use of their ample free time and piracy to invest themselves in a hobby that makes them feel special or sophisticated, allowing them to mentally compensate for their lack of social skills and failures in concrete or academic pursuits.

The real kicker is that in the end the vast majority of /lit/ is a hivemind ruled by a handful of online tastemakers mostly concerned with maintaining a balance between supporting "alternative" books that will appeal to misunderstood teenagers and maintaining their cred among bored college students as being "intellectual".

It's a feedback loop of posturing, masturbatory attitudes, and enough layers of irony to suffocate any hope of meaningful conversation. This last element--irony--is vital to allowing /lit/ and similar collectives to ignore the reality of their situation and disregard posts as this one with little more than tongue-in-cheek one-word responses.

*adapted from pasta about /tv/ to accurately describe /lit/.
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>>38660889
>Gaiman dies many years from now on
>YES! I knew it!
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>>38660500
I'm actually baffled by how elitist the sticky on /lit/ is. Do they actually think someone who likes fiction and wants to write fiction is bad because they write fiction? Why is Douglas Adams good, but Terry Pratchett bad? Why is it bad that people are sad about an author's death? Why can't people just enjoy a book without it having to be 2deep4u?
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>>38660840
Me too, anon. Me too.

>>38660844
I see what you did there.
Oh wait, now I don't.
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>>38660335
Mind if I post that in the /v/ thread and possibly /tesg/?
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>>38660955
Containment boards serve a useful service. Don't worry, you can always talk sci-fi and fantasy here. After all, you're discussing world building inspiration. Totally /tg/ related.
And the day I can't bring up Necromancer here is the day I leave 4chan.
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Somebody please hug me.
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>>38661019
Careful, /tesg/'s got a shitposter who is really mad about pratchett being talked about
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>>38661029
Necromancer? Neuromancer. I swear autocorrect is getting more and more subtle.
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>>38661019
feel free, I'm mostly out of the tes scene these days anyways
I couldnt stand skyrim
only really waiting on the open morrowind projects
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>>38661053
>/tesg/ shitposter

Get on my level bro.
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>>38661065
Oh man I loved Neuromancer. I'm not big on cyberpunk but it was fun to read, very atmospheric.

Is the rest of the Sprawl trilogy worth reading?
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>>38656217
/tg/ is practically dead these days, a shadow of it's former self
The whole internet is, really
The wild west days are finally coming to a close
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>>38661007
Because most people on /lit/ are worried about sounding "mature/grown-up" and smart instead of enjoying a good book, regardless of content.

Therefore, they only care about reading (or claiming to read) stuff that'll make the average person think of them as highly educated intellectuals, and diss off anything that might sound immature, like fiction or fantasy books.

There's a quote from C. S. Lewis that is quite fitting in this situation:
>“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
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It's about Bradbury, but it's by Gaiman, and oddly related, so I'll share it. I think it fits well.

https://soundcloud.com/neilgaiman/the-man-who-forgot-ray-bradbury
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>>38656713
>Martin kicks the bucket
That'll be a great day.
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>>38661166
It only dies when we give up on it.
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>>38656713
You're forgetting someone.

He even said in his 2013 (?) Christmas video that he hopes to live to see the final Hobbit film.
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>>38661112
Yes, very much so.

Reading order is Neuromancer-Count Zero-Monalisa Overdrive. Enjoy your reading.
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>>38661201
>I don't like a book so I hope the author dies
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>>38656713
Christopher Lee will outlive them all
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>>38661166
Is it what it was? The wild west days of Internet? The time of pioneers of digital?
I never thought about it that way.
I would want to believe Internet remains as free and chaotic and beautiful as it is now, but I really can't be sure.
Well, I guess we always have I2P and stuff like that... But it's unlikely they will ever be anything but niche.
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>>38656713
Somebody screenshot this just to see if Death as a personification actually exists and if he does, we know he's also fucking self-aware and uses image macros.

>This thing is in charge of culling everyone's life

Also please don't kill The Dude or Michael Caine. I still have to meet them.
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>>38661281
That picture is from 1957.
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>>38661166
Please don't, anon. I can only handle so many tears today.

You never think you're living in a golden age until it's too late.
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>>38660467
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Cosgrove Hall's Soul Music Miniseries

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t17vn2gtar9c1/Soul_Music

Animation is poor but everything else is pretty great
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>>38661007
Pratchett's books offer an interesting view at our own reality, especially mundane every day things. So they definently have depth, but it's all wrapped up in storytelling with a funny twist.
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>>38656713
Bull Murray
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It's times like these you should all hit the 'back' button and look at the cute kittens in the sticky. They're cute and probably still alive.
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>>38661312
You're right. Have a recent one.
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>>38661357
Christ.

He does look cool though. Forget he's Bill Murray for a second, he has this whole look about him. He'd be perfect as an elderly gnome or a funny wizard type character.
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>>38660942

On a good day, /tg/ is super nice.

It's been a lot better since that virtualoptim douche caught a ban last week.
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>>38661356
Isn't this at least one of the global purposes of fiction?
To hold the mirror up to nature? To add just enough lies so the truth that remains shines all the brighter? To warp the specifics and leave the important untouched?
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>>38661381
2spooky
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>>38661166

Well maybe that means people will get jobs and stop this stupid notion of internet piracy.
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>>38659876
Holy shit, my sides can't handle this
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Hello /tg/.

Some nice folk at /co/ is storytiming a few Discworld comics at >>>/co/70206684 , feel free to enjoy it with us.

Love,

A /co/mrade.
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>>38656713
Alejandro Jodorowsky.
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>>38661572
Thanks anon.
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>>38661532
I just realised that Death is a spooky skeleton, and I don't even care.
Wow. It's a miracle.
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>>38656713
>mfw Dick Van Dyke is next
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>>38656713
Christopher Tolkien.
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>>38661662
I can't believe he accepted to take that photo.
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Woooo
I am the ghost of Peter O'Toole woooo
Can I get a sticky wooooooo
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>>38653248
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>>38661316
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>>38661716
Never, you always get a cheap laugh out of me.
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>>38661356
I agree with you, I loved Pratchett's works and I felt that they had a lot to gain from them. I just think /lit/ cant enjoy a book unless it's entirely designed to be "Deep".

Also I noticed the average length of posts on /tg/s sticky seem to be longer than the ones on /lit/s sticky.
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>>38661733
Goddamnit, for some reason, I'm starting to remember the (Gaiman's) Death erotic fan fic I saw on /co/ last year.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1eel9qdfrx2
thanks for shaping my idea of fantasy you glorious bastard
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>>38661787
Is there a single of their characters /co/ doesn't fap to?
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>>38661787
For whatever reason, I've never read any Gaiman other than Good Omens as best I can recall. What book(s) is his death from?
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>>38661817
Is there a single one of our characters /tg/ doesn't fap to?
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>>38661437
What you mentioned goes beyond written fiction.
However, Pratchett had a specific way of going about it that left you with a feeling of wonder, even when it came to death.
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>>38661808
That's one spooky voice for Death.
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>>38661841
Sandman.
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>>38661841
The Sandman. It's one of the best graphic novel/comics around. I also strongly recommend American Gods and Anansi Boys, two of his best known novels.
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>>38661583
NO!
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>>38661849
Plus he was totally quotable.
Sad as it may seem, I hope that his death leads to a big renewed interest into his books.
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>>38656713
Harrison Ford.
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>>38661849
If I said that I fapped to the Emperor, would it be considered heresy or devotion?
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>>38661942
Depends on which kind of Emperor-related fantasy you're fapping too. There's an approved list.
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>>38661309
I suppose it is. The web's become less harsh, more hugbox-y, more "civilized" over these years. Corporations have came and set up shop, as well.
It really is the old west.
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>>38661942
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>>38661979
So... We are, quite literally, the last of digital cowboys?
Or do we still have some time before the West goes away entirely?
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>>38661942
You missed your reply by a post heretic
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>>38653318
Yeah. I actually liked Pratchett's work.
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>>38661979
I think it's just a see-saw. If you think the web has become less harsh, go to Tumblr and voice any sort of dissenting opinion about any topic ending with -ism.

In some weird way it's come full circle, and the message board where I routinely get called a faggot and people make nigger jokes is the nicest place to be.
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>>38662010
I kek'd.
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>>38653910
There is a difference yes but given that state people are in I don't trust anyone to judge the difference.
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>>38653318
They considered him to be more Oscar Wilde's successor.
Still, the guy was damn good with language.
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>>38649163
I thought he died years ago. Woah.
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>>38662053
The internet truly is a strange place.
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>>38661979
>The web's become less harsh
I dunno, man. Twitter can get people fired for making a dumb joke.
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>>38662103
It's become less intelligently harsh.
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>>38649163
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>>38662103
That's not Twitter firing people, that's their employer. Mine would too if I called nigger a nigger in the office.
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>>38662103
You always could get fired for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. The only thing Twitter's done is give shitheads a platform that's easily interacted with.
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>>38662174

Nigga, I was on Usenet in the 90s, the tubes have always been full of stupid.
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>>38661979
>>38662053
Different sorts of harsh.

In the very early days you have limited numbers, but you'll know a large part of the community.
Some communities are still like that, but most aren't.
Even on social networks set up specifically to keep in touch with people there may well be people you don't know

The harshness is less personal, but part of a greater, bigger whole.

Or maybe not, what do I know
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>>38662195
Have a hug anon.
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>>38662025
Luckily, we'll never run out of land to roam on the internet.

Sure, the first corporate trains might roll into town bringing with them their cargos of casuals from back east. The new Sheriff might be not turn so many blind eyes.
But unless the fundamental structure of the internet changes, the mountain men can always find a new horizon.
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>>38662231
Shh, don't interrupt the circlejerk.
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>>38661817
>>38661843
So what if we both fap to the same characters?
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>>38662053
Just adapting to a particular community and rules of socialization.
Nothing has changed.
You're just stuck in a rut.
A well worn, comforting rut.
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>>38661713
it's not real anon
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>>38662244
T-thanks anon. I'm planning to raise a glass for him.
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>>38661357
I'll never believe it
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>>38662368
Good idea, will do the same
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>>38660764
on the subject of footnotes, I had bought Sourcery as an iBook, and noticed that all the later footnotes were non-sequiturs, and so decided to stop reading.

I started reading again, and when I got to the next footnote, I googled a sentence, to find out if there's something wrong with the digital copy, or if the off topic footnotes were intentional. It turns out that it skipped footnote 16, and moved 22 so that it would be the last footnote. The footnote I had gotten up to was what was supposed to be 24.
seeing as how the last ten footnotes were screwed up, should I go back and start reading from the paragraph that had footnote 16, or would continuing on and missing out on the footnotes not affect my enjoyment?
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>>38649163
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY
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>>38661787
Sooo... source?
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>>38661787

Seconded. We may be grieving a great man's death, but there is always time for fucked up pornography.
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And if you needed this to be any MORE /tg/
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>>38662506
>>38662551

Give me a few minutes, I think I might have the url saved in one of my "secret" (yes, that means porn-related) note files.
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>>38649163

I've enjoyed his work for the most part, but his writing simply wasn't good enough for 70+ books.

After the fifth or so book his "wit" became increasingly tiresome to me.
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>>38662572
>secret
>not just keeping your porn files in plain sight
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>>38662590

What a nice thing to say when people gather to discuss a guy's death.
Do you do wedding speeches, too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXpmHuCE9Ls
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>>38662570

Do they actually make sets for that?

I've always wanted to play.
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>>38660997
what if the two different deaths switched up for them?
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>>38662649
Tabletop Simulator ought to be a good stopgap.
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>>38649163
This might sound fucked up but I'm not at all sad that he died. My mother has Alzheimer's so I know exactly the hell he and his family have had to endure. I'm just glad they won't have to suffer anymore and the pain can finally start to heal for them.
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>>38662590
I disagree. He had a mere handful of weak books, or at least weak compared to his other works, and these were written either early on in his career, or towards the end when Alzheimer's was already sapping his talent and intellect away.For a guy who wrote around forty books he had very few misses among all the hits.
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>>38662572
Lucky bastards, it was on the 2nd one I checked.

http://pastebin.com/XbepExFR

>>38662612
I don't save porn to my hd, never did. Even when I had shit internet that took ages to load a 30 seconds-long video in terrible quality.
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A friends of mine was at a book signing about 15 years or so age and got a signature for me because I had moved just the week before. So now somewhere in the house I have a Pratchett signature that says "Buy a book you bastard!"
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>>38662671
>what if the two different deaths switched up for them?
Is there anything, any crossover fanfic or anything at all, where Pratchett's Death and Gaiman's Death meet? I think they'd get along pretty well.
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>>38662694
Yeah. I know what you mean.

I was, and this sounds really stupid, hoping that they'd figure out a way to cure it before he died. I wanted to open up a new book by him as an adult and have it be just as magical as when I was a kid.

Maybe that's selfish, but he was such a good guy.
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>>38662694

It's true. Nature has finally seen fit to give him the mercy denied by his country.

But I'm still misting up. Something about he death of someone so great, merciful as it is, sends out ripples. It's the finality of it all. I feel like a piece of myself went with him. And strangest of all, I could have sworn I felt it pass last night, even before I read the news.
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>>38660889
Thank you, mon ami. I needed that laugh.
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>>38662639
Not him, but I disagree with you.
Just because he's dead doesn't mean nobody can even say a bad thing about him anyway, as long as it's not an idiotic bad thing.
There's a difference between ranting about how much somebody sucked at their funeral or just saying "well I liked him but he wasn't ideal".
If the second one isn't allowed, it turns into a circlejerk.
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>>38649163
Rest in peace, you wonderful man. You won't be forgotten. Thank you.
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>>38662730

I opened up my newsfeed a few hours ago. Amid every one I subscribed to mourning his death, there was a science article posting about how MRIs could be used not just to look into the brain, but do a kind of subtle manipulation of its structure to potentially treat things like Alzheimer's.

The comments were inundated with posts of "Not soon enough..."
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>>38661572
>page 56
>but he never wrote anything down
>everyone has one book in them
Dammit
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>>38662445
that's why you don't use iBooks
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>>38654705
Thank you.
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>>38661572

/co/, you are one of our bestest bros. You, too, understand the importance of storytime.
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it ages me as young but i met him when I was ten. everyone who had bought his book was allowed to leave class and meet him. I didnt have the book but was a retard child so left to go anyway. Shook his hand. top fella
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>>38652880
i wil fite u m8 i swer i wil fuckn rek u.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about Sir Terry, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>38657966
Aussie here. One of the most popular authors around the IT part of the campus.
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>>38652542
>High Priest is named Hughnon Ridcully
Ridcullys sure made it big in the city.
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>>38660955
>The main goal is to just read more, less-known stuff so they can feel superior to others on the board.
That's the fucking issue really.

I've been reading books for my entire life. I would be more than happy to discover more things to read.

And they do mention things I've never heard of in my life. But not to discuss.

To namedrop.

Boom. I've heard of THIS obscure writer. They don't even mention any specific WORKS. It's like pokemon.

"Sebald." "Oh YEAH? SEBALD? Bernhard!"
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>>38663064
He is Mustrum's brother. I believe this is mentioned in Feet of Clay.
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>>38663178
Reaper Man actually.
They both meet and while the priests and wizards argue they talk about how their mom is mad at them for never calling.
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>>38661278
Mona Lisa Overdrive is definitely a much different tone than Neuromancer, but it's still by far one of my favorite books.

Snow Crash, if anyone in this thread hasn't read it yet, is a hilarious parody of the genre as a whole.
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>>38662779

And I disagree pretty strongly with that. My mom taught me that when it comes to someone's demise, if you don't have anything good to say, you shouldn't say anything at all.
Coming in just to say "Eh, I don't see what the big deal is, he wasn't that great. I found him tiresome" is rude and unpleasant. Sure it's an honest opinion, but it's not a good moment to voice such an opinion. There are people in this very thread who are genuinely distraught at the man's death, and so if you want to tear him down, save it.
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>>38657994
I really fucking hope not, given that a few months back they had some breakthroughs in understanding the underlying causes of alzheimers.

It'd be too painful if he suicided only for a cure to become workable in a few years when it could have conceivably brought him back.
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>>38663178
>>38663199
Yup, High Priest of Blind Io and Archchancellor of the Unseen University.
Not bad for a couple of farm boys from out in the sticks
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>>38663344
Lancre actually, which breeds wizards and witches pretty much
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>>38663268
She raised you well, Anon
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What happens to archived threads? How can I access them later? I mean those threads archived right here on the board not on other sites
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>>38663427
they're gone forever after 24 hours instead of instantly
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>>38663427
remember (or bookmark) thread number
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>>38663067
What disgusted me about /lit/ last time I wen there was the common categorical hate towards "genre fiction". One guy arguing that fantasy has no merit - not even that fantasy genre as it is now has no merit due to catering to neckbeards or whatever, but that fantasy literature could not possibly, under any conditions, regardless of the talent of its writers or themes it handles or quality of its prose, have merit - has particularly stuck in my mind. Part of the reason why this annoys me is obviously because they hate things I like, but more than that because judging books solely by their genre rather than on a case by case basis is not something a person who actually likes or understands literature could ever do.
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My last favorite living author is no more

I'm glad he lived a good life, but why couldn't death just wait a little longer?
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>>38663427
should just use the off-site archives as the on-site ones are pretty unreliable, just convenient for refreshing a page of a thread you left up from the night before
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>>38663488
When you begin to put one style of work on a pedestal over the other, you begin to disregard the merits of the other. Sometimes, it gets to the point where you can't see the merits of the other work over the biases you hold against it.
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I already wrote this on /lit/, but whatever. Farewell Terry. I laughed so much with Men at Arms. Now it's time to read everything else.
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>>38653899
you cocksucker. i will find you, i will kill you, and i will buttfuck your soul
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>>38663362
I was never sure if it was actually Lancre - it's said to be a very small kingdom and I didn't think it extended much past the town, castle and kind of ends in the woods.

I've just looked it up, and it seems to be one of those places everyone calls small, but with a lot in it.
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>>38663620
Death will come for him eventually anon, and he will learn his lesson then
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>>38663299
>It'd be too painful if he suicided only for a cure to become workable in a few years when it could have conceivably brought him back.

But what if by then he had already lost his mind/sanity completely, with no chance of recovery? Then they'd just made a man live in suffering for, say, another decade, just for the sake of might-haves and possibilities.

I know how this feels, believe me. I loved my paternal grandmother to pieces. She died due to pancreatic cancer back in 1999; I remember being GODDAMN BLOODY FURIOUS at the fact that, only a few weeks afterwards, there was some huge breakthrough in cancer research that might have saved her. I was pissed at the fact that, had she lived longer, she might have survived; and then I realized that I was being an egotistical, self-centered little shit that wanted my dear grandmother to suffer in a hospital bed for who knows how much time in the hopes she MIGHT survive and be with me a little more.

Leave the dead alone. Cherish their memory and deeds, remember the good times, live and let die.
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>>38663616
I really liked the Nightwatch. Something about the books seemed so special. It felt like when I read as a child, it was entertaining, thought provoking, and it was fun.
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>>38662779
Being genuinely distraught on 4chan isn't any sort of defense.
Kill yourself.
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>>38663667
>I was never sure if it was actually Lancre
It is, Ridcully used to be Granny Weatherwax's boyfriend.
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>>38663730
Russian one or Pratchett one?

I've read the latter, it's fantastic.
Been meaning to read the other, heard it's good
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I don't think I have a reaction image sad enough

My childhood was me sitting in my room reading Myth-Adventures, Xanth, Hitchhiker's Guide, and Discworld

The way these men wrote shaped who I am today, and now only 1 of them is still here.

Peirs wont last much longer either
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>>38663607
On that note, I made sure that the three primary threads (including this one) were archived at sup/tg/
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>>38663777
No, he used to chase her, up on the moors.

There's a difference.
Probably because she never let him catch her.
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>>38663790
the russian nightwatch series is a damn fine series. its completely different from the movies they made.
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>>38663790
I was referring to the Pratchett one, what's up with the Russian one?
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>>38663903
Russian Supernatural Police Force basically.
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>>38658509
The Russian translator tweaked Nobby's name to make sure a dick joke still worked?

God bless that gentleman.
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>>38663939
That's dedication to the craft
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>>38663931
Is it any good?
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>>38649245
We do what tg does best. We get shit done, and make a Disc world Tabletop RPG dedicated to him.
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>>38664010
Heck no, honor him by making your own original hilarious settings. Pratchett was always a man who endorsed creative original thinking.
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>>38663790
If you want to read Lukyanenko, Spectrum is okay sci-fi, Rough Draft is good, The Boy and the Darkness is interesting but brutal at times, Lord from Planet Earth is really good, Line of Delirium is the best Master of Orion fanfiction you'll ever read.

>>38663931
>>38663976
It's kind of okay. A bit too many books IMO. Can't blame him, they print money.

Think of it as Russian world of darkness

There is layer(s) of reality called Twilight, it's where all the supernatural originates from. Some people are Others - vampires, were-animals, wizards, etc. and draw power from the twilight, or enter it to hide from muggles.

There are two fractions - Day Watch and Night Watch. Sith and jedi respectively. They are concerned with upholding the masquerade and keeping the world in a state of balance.
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>>38657687
/co/ might cheer if frank miller died, but I wouldn't.
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Since so many good people are dying, who will step up and fill their void?
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WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?
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>>38664187
Someone will, we might not notice it, but people will always step up. We must be vigilant, and encourage talent when we see it.
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>>38664288
I like that answer. WHO HERE ON THIS BOARD HAS THE COURAGE, AND THE TALENT?! STEP UP!
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>>38663867
The fucking irony of this post.
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>>38664344

I'd do it, if my inability to write fast could be overcome.
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>>38664344
Courage? Yes!

Talent? Questionable!
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If I want to read all of the books, without missing any of the references, is the best order to read them by publication date?
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>>38664344
Sure.
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>>38664344
What do you exactly mean by filling the void?
If you mean writing stuff in general, I planned to do that anyway.
If you mean writing Discworld, hell no.
If you mean writing something right now, hell no. I want to go sleep. I spent all night replying to the sticky.
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>>38664288

They are with us now.

>>38664344

Closer to some than others? Closer than we might think?
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>>38664344
I lack the courage, I'm OK on talent.
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>>38664370
>>38664380
>>38664394
I like your answers. I might, might being a like generous to myself because I need a little self esteem, but I might have a little talent. Courage, heck no.
>>38664420
It's okay Anon.
>>38664427
Huh?
>>38664442
That's something.
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>>38664394
I thought you were doing videogames.
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>>38664486
Yeah but shit, if I said Nanosteam was ridiculously inspired by Discworld I'd be lying.
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>>38664344
The real question is do you have the motivation to keep working, even when you don't succeed the first time. If there's one thing I've seen it's that talent and practice are two sides of the same coin, and both sides are fueled by passion.
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>>38664532
I should have added that too. But if Meyer can get something published, anyone can make it.
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>>38662649
What are the rules for this game?
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>>38664513
If things are successful would you do an open world Discworld RPG
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>>38664602
Heck no.
I think the best kind of game for Discworld would be something is like the Lego games. You have a big open world AM hub where you access different missions that take you through each book, the first time around with the characters from said book, but afterwards you have freeplay mode where you can switch between characters to access new areas and collectibles.
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>>38664391
Yeah
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>>38664583

The Dwarves move like Queens.

The Trolls move like Kings.

Thems kind of the abbreviated rules.
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>>38664563
Anyone can get published if they work hard enough or just get lucky. The real test is getting remembered.
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>>38664583
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_of_the_Discworld#Thud
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>>38664659
I thought quality mattered the most.
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>>38664655
>Thems kind of the abbreviated rules.
Are there any more rules than that, though?
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>>38664532

I've tried to get several of my books published. I still have the rejection letters.

It's hard to crack into the writers market, moreso when you're a Uni Student from the furthest reaches of the world who doesn't want to lose the spark of creative writing under the endless list of essays and Disserations I have to write.

But I have hope, thanks to people like Pratchett and Gaiman and Tolkien and Lewis and Gygax. They inspire me, they give me ideas and they encourage me to keep going. I want to be like them, and in some distant future if life ends like that to be able to be counted as one of their number.

That is why I still write even though I've had plenty of criticism even here on /tg/. That is why I'll never give up on writing fiction even though I do endless fact work. Because I want to live up to their example, and join their ranks.
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>>38664677

Probably. Probably different versions of it as well.
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>>38664677
Yes; see Wikipedia.
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>>38664513
So it's a sc-fi Discworld.
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>>38664391
To get absolutely all of them?
Yes.

Though time breaks at least twice, so there's a few inconsistencies.
And your face when a character reappears after 35 books will be a sight to behold
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>>38664696
Keep going mate, many authors that are famous now have a pile of rejection letters of their own.
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>>38664675
Quality gets remembered.
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>>38664696
Never give up, Anon. Create something that will get humanity forgiven from the sin of Twilight.
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>>38664737
I dunno man Twilight and 50 Shades will always be remembered as well, just not in a good way
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>>38664720
Are we talking about Eskarina here or somebody else?
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>>38664737
But that puzzles me on Twilight.
>>38664758
It is a sin. Those sins can only be forgiven in?
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>>38664696
Frank Herbert, publisher of Dune, got rejected by twenty publishing houses before he got published. Keep practicing, working on your writing, and submitting it.
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>>38664715
Yep.
There's just something about settings that mix together every single cliche and trope of their genre and make it work. Especially ones that try to portray the day-to-day stuff. I want my own setting to be like that, hopefully.
Pratchett had an odd way of worldbuilding, but damn was it a good way.
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>>38664758
>>38664776
Its only been a few years, and already Twilight has faded. Do you really think it's going to stay big for over a decade?
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>>38664823
Good point. Most Twifangirls have move on and Robert Patterson will be happier if we remember it less. Thankfully he did not star in 50 Shades of Grey for everyone's sake.
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>>38664696

Collect those rejection letters. Display them proudly, and when you get famous enough, embarrass the fuck out of the publishers who rejected you.

Casual vengeance, I call it.
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>>38664760
That's the one.
A very minor character from Reaper Man gets a reference Raising Steam, but that's only a 29 book gap
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>>38664877
>Most Twifangirls have move on
yeah, moved on to 50 shades.
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>>38664920
Well his son is a major character in Raising Steam.
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>>38664940
I stand corrected. What will be the next thing that will be just as bad as two horrors? My Immortal: The Move?
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>>38661413
I'd love it if we could just fucking ban that attentionfaggot ND too.

And quest threads.
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>>38664974
We probably won't see the next one coming, Wouldn't it be funny if they tried to pull the Twilight treatment on something like deep ones? At least that would have some sort of irony associated to it.
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>>38664966
Yes, which is pretty damn impressive.
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>>38665062
Well inventing seems to run in the family.
The first guy invented a combine harvester, and they made note that steam engines had existed for years in the Discworld, Dick just applied them to actual locomotion.

I was actually smiling all throughout Raising Steam, all the little nods to rail history were fun.
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>>38665115

I only finished Raising Steam less then a week ago. I thought it was good, but it definitely showed how Pratchett was going downhill.

Now I'm depressed I thought that.
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>>38664993
I'm not against quest threads, but I wish they were not as frequent and maybe if they had their own board. As for ND, I am neutral on the subject of ND.
>>38665057
We won't?
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>>38664358

Go to bed, Alanis Morrissette, you're drunk.
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>>38665214
If you think about it, it really does feel like his last book. All the characters you like have little cameos here and there, and it's entire theme is the Discworld finally moving towards becoming fully modernized.
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>>38665222
We'll see the next fad coming before the general populace, but we won't be able to predict the next trend.
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>feeling sad bout his Death
>see what /lit/ has to say about it
>immediately regret the decisions
>go back to old home board /tg/
>has sticky Pratchett thread
>little to no shitposting
>1000 posts, 300+ posters

its like i don't even need any-other boards.
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>>38665115
Wait, isn't Sheeprigde where Mort comes from?
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>>38665307
It'll be something that /pol/ will like. Maybe the unholy love child of /pol/, /d/, /b/, and /x/ and it'll promote teen pregnancy.
>Captcha: vistp
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>>38665238
>All the characters you like have little cameos here and there,
Except Carrot. He forgot Carrot.
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>>38665380
And he'd promised that Carrot and Angue were going to have puppies too.
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>>38665309

I've taken to mocking them for being a bunch of sour-pusses.
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>>38665380
Did he?
I swore he appeared, at least briefly.
Odd that he wouldn't appear, at least to give a bit of closure.

>>38665312
Yep. Pratchett has that good ole consistency.
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>>38665416
1000th post achieved.
Victory gained.
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>>38665400
For all we know they probably already have.
According to I Shall Wear Midnight they're already living together.
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>>38665309
/co/ thread is also great
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>>38665378
It will be something that appeals to people, something people want but don't want the negative connotations of. Probably something dark and mysterious too.
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>>38665458
We live in a time where 50 Shades of Grey is considered a hit. I think we need to teach middle aged women and teenage girls a lesson.
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>>38665483

If I knew how to do that then I'd try.
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>>38665483
Well it IS a hit, it's just not considered good.
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>>38665309

It's our motto, written around the shield of our /tg/ football team.
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>>38658023
>JRR Tolkien
Tolkien would be a shit D&D player. So much fucking exposition all the goddamn time.
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>>38665527
What lesson do they need?
>>38665532
Tell it teenage women and middle aged women.
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>saw this thread like 9 hours ago
>lurked a bit
>planned to read discworld books whole night
>i actually stayed in the thread and had a great time

This is what I will remember when someone mentions TP's death to me irl.
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>>38665558
>What lesson do they need?

From what I can tell, that they shouldn't be satisfied with crap like 50 Shades and Twilight. They deserve better, but no-one seems to be giving it to them.
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>>38665400
Shit, I used to have art for that. Guess not.
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>>38665570
I found out in the morning and only browsed /tv/ and /lit/'s stickies which were a fucking mistake (I only just now discovered this and /co/'s). They are negative as fuck. I wish i had nice memories of it like you.
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>>38665570

I'll remember that it gave me an extra spur to write again. Also that I can't find my first rejection letter. I spent the last fifteen minutes looking for it, but it's vanished. I kept it by my bedside in a brown envelope but it's gone somewhere.
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>>38665594
That is one thing. Why is stuff like that so appealing to women?
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>>38665607

Does anyone have the art of the guy who illustrated 'The Last Hero'? That was my first Diskworld Novel, and his art is to me the epitome of what Diskworld is.
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>>38665607
Still pretty sure Angua is the more dangerous one in that relationship.
even if she does wear a collar
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>>38665659

Buggered if I know.
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>>38665635
Here's some more extra spur bro anon. Do what you feel
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>>38665661
That's Paul Kidby
Who was the artist for Discworld.
He's really really damn good.
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>>38665687
I think we need a scientific research on women. How do they work? What do they need?
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>>38665661
Discworld, and Paul Kidby
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>>38665685
Halfway between a man and a wolf is a dog.
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So, as a bit of a tribute, I'm going to dump a D&D adventure from the pages of White Dwarf #9, published in 1978.

This was probably the first adventure Terry Pratchett ever played, after which he took up the mantle of DM and... well, you know the rest.
If you've ever noticed Sir Terry's love of the word 'susurrus', this is where it came from.
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>>38665661
Might be Kidby?
But the whole thing is here >>38652542 so just check the front/back
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>>38665659
Because it's an erotic fantasy world that they can never experience for themselves. 50 Shades was the first exposure to BDSM culture to a lot of women (in a bad way), and they found it exciting.
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>>38665727

Good grief, I've been looking for that book for years in all the secondhand bookshops here, and never found it.

Saved.
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Goodbye, Terry. You were more than an inspiration - you were motivation. I think maybe it's time to start publishing my own stuff.

Now go find those rotten gods and kick them in the jimmies for me, why don't you?
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>>38665616
/tv/ had a sticky too? I browsed /lit/ too for some time but got out soon because of the negative shitposting. and yea /co/ is great. im thinking about doing the colour of magic storytime
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>>38665723
Wish Pratchett told more DnD stories.
We know the idea for the Luggage came from an idea in one of his campaigns where he had a sentient box of holding that always did exactly what it was told.
So it would end up running off cliffs and whatnot.
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>>38665659
It's easy to get into, it's taboo, and it's something slightly unique.
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>>38659740
Same, I got into Pratchett when I got The Color of Magic and The Light Fantastic for my 7th birthday. Read every book that had come out in the next three years, I was that much of a fan even then.

Now, I wait for the translated edition every year, because the translators do an amazing job with localizing jokes, it's really something else.
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>>38657943
I know how you feel. I learned during the middle of class - had to keep soldiering one while my students kept giving me weird looks. When class was over, I told them to leave and locked the door.

I'm still getting teary-eyed about it now. And i probably will be for a while.
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>>38665736
How do women operate?
>>38665799
Imagine the pain and suffering many boyfriends and husbands have went through cause of twilight and 50 Shades. I saw a picture of a vibrating Edward doll.
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>>38665769
>/tv/ had a sticky too?
I just checked, it's not actually a sticky. But they've had a thread for most of the day.
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>>38665859
It's just their version of porn. This also explains some of it (slightly NSFW) http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/50shadesofgrey/

I would have probably been all over this as a teenager myself
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>>38649163
see ya terry
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>>38665719

Angua is still a cutie.

Awoo~
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>>38658095
SUSAN, COME LOOK AT THIS DEVICE. IT IS QUITE FASCINATING. I CAN REPEAT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WHEN THE KITTEN IMMEDIATELY DROPS ASLEEP. IT WILL NEVER AGE, FOREVER REPEATING THIS INSTANCE FOREVER, AND YET I CANNOT TOUCH IT.

I PREFER THE REAL THING, AND YET I CANNOT STOP CLICKING "PLAY."
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>>38665917
>ca/tg/irl confirmed?
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>>38657687
I'd be kinda sad if he died. The guy's crazy now, but Sin City will always be one of my favourite series.
Also, can anybody give me evidence that Ditko is still alive? Haven't heard anything about him in ages.
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>>38665859
>Imagine the pain and suffering many boyfriends and husbands have went through cause of twilight and 50 Shades. I saw a picture of a vibrating Edward doll.
It's just pron anon, just porn
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>>38665548

Oh gods, I can see him describing every single thing in excruciating detail as a fight goes on.

>I attack the two-headed ogre. My carefully inalid ivory dice roll smoothly acroos the table of lush, worn, green velvet, showing a 16 and 15; therefore, my attacks are successful. Burundir grabs his mithril, elven-crafted his sword, Darcyl, from its carved wooden scabbard, and swings it in a perfect arc of silver, slashing the brownish-red flesh of my foes for 31 damage points and.... guys? Guys, wake up, it's nearly your turn!
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>>38665965
Just a crossboarder enjoying the company
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It's midnight now, and I'm going to shower.
It's not to hide the tears, not at all.
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>>38666013
Well welcome to /tg/ enjoy your stay.
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>>38658192
Canadafag here, one of my favourite series.
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>>38665990
I know. They very least Twilight could have was a cool explosion.
>>38666013
Okay. Now I want you lot's reconmendation on what to read from TP. I want to know what the full measure of what we lost. I may have posted that sentence in this thread before or on one of the other threads. And welcome to /tg/. Enjoy your stay, wipe your feet, and praise the tea.
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>>38666013

Would you like a biscuit?

We were just chatting about a popular author. I'm watching a television adaptation of The Colour of Magic atm in a different window, comfy as fuck.
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>>38665801
Yep, I like the translations too but started reading english books now. Also The Color of Magic is the first book published by Laguna.
Odakle si?
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>>38659127
Man, I just had a thought.
How bad will it be for Neil if Moore dies?
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WORDS OF THE HEART CAN NOT BE TAKEN.
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>>38659306
....Can Vetinari die?
I get the vague feeling he's naturally immortal.
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>>38666194

>vampirism
>natural
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>>38666267
Like Blade maybe?
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>>38666078
this guide pretty much says it all
>>38652657
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>>38666134
Did not know that, awesome.

Beograd, ti?
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>>38666372
Thank you. I wonder how the heavens will weep tomorrow.
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Goodbye, your words have inspired so many of my adventures.
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>>38666382
PA. nije lako naleteti na nekoga iz okoline, na /tg/ u TP threadu
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>>38649163
Good night, sweet prince.

Is Christopher Lee next?
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>>38666589

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SIR CHRIS!

He's so impossibly frail...
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>>38656391
>I showed up on /lit/ so that I'd see what they'd have to say about Pratchett and man isn't their thread awful. At least here at /tg/ I can truly feel feels.

That sticky is proof that their board is pure concentrated awful.
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>>38666335
Like he went to Uberwald to become a vampire.
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>>38666646
>Lee
>Frail

That great bastard is 92 years old and still acting and recording metal albums for fun. I don't see him going down easily any time soon.
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I feel like shit. Why does this have to feel bad? It's natural.
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>>38666662
What happened to /lit/ anyway? I don't remember it being that bad when I lurked there a few years ago.
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>>38666766
UberBlade? I'd pay money to see. Like Alucard?
>>38666769
A 92 year old man recording metal albums for fun and acting? Now I'm interested.
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>>38666662
I feel like /lit/ is our opposite, we're both full of contrarian pseudo-intellectuals, but while /lit/ seems to hate anything "juvenile" and finds solace in their literature, we embrace fantasy and escapism.
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>>38660202
Fuck off cunt. You're clearly not a real fan of Pratchett, go back to wanking with wadded up pages of Matt Ward books.
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>>38666769
>That great bastard is 92 years old and still acting and recording metal albums for fun.

His skin is like paper, though, and his liver spots have liver spots. His cheeks are sunken; your aged mother could pick him up like a child, if it wouldn't break his hip. He's a tough old bastard, but Death claims all, even tough old bastards.
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>>38666884
Thats not how Sir Pratchett would like you to behave.
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>>38666870
But we dont hate some books just by their author or title. I mean, I really intend to read Atlas Shrugged one day. Or at least try.
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>>38666945
>I really intend to read Atlas Shrugged one day. Or at least try.
Buy a bottle of scotch to go with it.
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>>38666870

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”


― C.S. Lewis
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>>38666945
>Atlas Shrugged

Oh god good luck with that one anon.
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>>38665993
This is just bullshit. Nobody that actually reads Tolkien thinks like this. So he do looong descriptions each time about any detail, right? So, tell me the hair colour of Legolas. NOWHERE. You can guess if you search his lineage in the Silmarillion that it probably was light grey. And thats one of the fucking members of the Fellowswhip. Now go aroudn saying Tolkien describes a lot.

On the other hand, him as a player, trying to speak his own languages...
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>>38666945
Our version is the whole ">liking D&D" thing.
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>>38666945
It is pretty fun if you take it for what it is (and skim over the philosophical exposition bits). Some fun science fiction elements to be had, that people rarely discuss because they are too busy hating it on principle without having read it. Not the best book, nor the best philosophy, but the amount of vitriol spewed over it is really just silly.
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>>38666505
This post probably hit me the most. There's something about it being so simple and directed at Terry himself. Have a good life, anon.
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>>38654261
I needed that laugh. Thank you, anon.
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>>38666945

Atlas is do-able, if painful when not a 13-year-old survival-of-the-fittest-that's-me narcissist. I found Fountainhead completely unreadable, even when I was a narcissistic Randian teenager who read heavily.
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I feel kind of broken. Like, I've been trying to have a normal day since hearing about this and it hasn't been happening. I have no one I can talk to about this either. Fuck.
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>>38667153

I've been surrounding myself with his work anon, watching an adaptation of the light fantastic atm on youtube. Do it. Your heart yearns for it.
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>>38667153
Anon, you have us.

We're like that one guy who tries really hard to be your friend, but is just too socially awkward.
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Thanks for being sad with me, /tg/. I don't feel so sad anymore. I'm ready to look towards tomorrow.

>>38667153

Talk to us, anon. It helped me, let me help you. Let it out and remember and mourn with us.
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>>38667153
You can always talk to us anon.
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>>38667096
I disagree. It is a genuinely bad book. It isn't really an offensive or rage-inducing book, though. It couldn't be, as neither Rand's philosophy as presented by her nor her characters can be taken seriously enough to get angry about them.

Everyone should read it, though, if only to know what people talk about when it is mentioned.
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I'm sort of disappointed at how little of a reaction I had to this. For awhile now I've thought that his death would be the first celebrity death that really hits me. But I barely feel anything.

But then again, I've barely felt anything for about two weeks now so maybe it's just a bad time.
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>>38667153
I know the feeling. Coming here helped me feel better about the fact almost no one in my other circles seem to be that sad.
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>>38667207

Atlas Shrugged is the exemplar of the "tell instead of show" deadly sin of literature, with a 20+ page monologue that might as well be coming straight out of Ms. Rand's gob. The underlying philosophy is also so toxic it deserves to be called out by name and denounced with the same fervor as fascism.
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Anyone read The Long Earth? Thinking about picking it up tomorrow, pretty much the only thing of his I haven't read.
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>>38667229
I felt the same until some anon in one of the past threads posted and excerpt from...Reaper Man, or Hogfather? The one where Death talks to Susan about importance of believing in things that aren't true. I suddenly went from feeling nothing to tearing up when reading it. Terry as a person was a stranger I never met, and it is hard to feel much more than vague sympathy for a stranger. Terry as an author was a figure who made an impact on my life, whose books I grew up reading, and remembering that made me feel a certain sense of loss.
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>>38667393
He's more of an adviser on it.
It's an interesting book nonetheless. Not funny, but interesting.

>>38667399
Hogfather. Reaper Man comes before Soul Music and Soul Music is when she first appeared.
Speaking of which Soul Music's cartoon had a lot of really nice Discworld rock songs made for it.
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>>38667027
I was being hyperbolic, Anon. Although Tolkien does tend to exaggerate on his descriptions at times.

Hell, when talking with people about LotR it is not that unusual to find someone that can't overcome the beginning of Fellowship because it is too descriptive.
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AND NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST
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>>38650124
Story time?

This sounds like something that could've been a great book.
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Oh god
He's gone.

Please don't let anyone try and finish any unwritten books or continue the series. Just let it end. Even if the last Discworld books weren't the greatest, just let it have the ending.
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>>38667555
Him and his daughter said a few months ago that she would continue the series after his death. I don't know if that's still going to happen.
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>>38667518
Google says his value is £42 million.
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>>38656644
Are you me?!
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>>38667584
No no, she'd take care of the series. Essentially manage the estate. She said herself that those books are sacred to her, and she's not touching them.
Think about it, she probably grew up with them just as much as we did, probably got into videogame writing because of her dad.
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>>38667584
Why? Why can't she just make her own series? Let it have the ending. I might love the characters and the places but I loved the writer more. Just let it go.
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>>38667313

And we can assume that most readers are intelligent enough to recognize that.

Those that aren't... Well, we'll soon be able to tell, won't we?

>>38667605

That's actually some pretty big value, there.
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A little bit of the world's imagination died today. May Death treat you favorably Mr. Pratchett, you changed my childhood.
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>>38650927
Fuck.

That hurt.

I only recently started reading Discworld, but the world has lost someone irreplaceable today.

RIP.
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>>38667605
And how long before his works are driven into the ground?
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>>38667555
She's just taking care of the estate.

>‘There was an assumption I was going to write Discworld, which isn’t exactly the case,’ explains [Rhianna] Pratchett. ‘They’re sacred, they’re Dad’s legacy and I’m the protector of Discworld and that means protecting it from myself as well.

Although I would be ok with her and Gaiman putting their heads together and finishing whatever material Terry left behind. He used to write multiple books at a time, so there should be plenty left for Discworld to have some closure.
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So : Place your bets, which book is going to get an adaptation as a tribute to him.

The smart money is on Reaperman
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>>38667744
Hopefully a long time.
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Well, I have a $50 gift card to Indigo books, guess tomorrow I'm gonna walk to the mall and put it to good use.
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>>38667759
I think it'd be great if Neil got to write kind of a tribute novel.
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>>38667193
>>38667206

I don't even know why this is hitting me this hard. I think it's the combination of Douglas Adams' birthday yesterday and getting nowhere with this one girl and I've been listening to that unreleased kanye west song on loop and I should probably be writing an essay right now but I can't bring myself to do anything other than mess around on my ukulele. I wrote some good melodies but I'm too tired and jaded to write them down. I've been very stressed at my job and I guess I just haven't had a lot to laugh about recently. Even less now.
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>>38656383
Thank you for my new wallpaper.
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>>38654071
Shakespeare couldn't have become popular today, since his success was due to 1/3rd plagiarism (which was okay back then) 1/3rd being a brilliant satirist and linguist, and 1/3rd luck (the plague).

And you'll notice that two of those are unavailable now, while the third one is simply no longer valued in the mainstream.
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>>38649163
/tg/, upon learning of Sir Terry Pratchett's death I came as close to crying as I've been able to in years. His sense of humor and satire has been so in line with my own that I can say that he's the only author to have ever make me laugh out loud while reading and his death is a true loss to us all.

And then I read this thread. In just this short thread there are hundreds of people feeling the same feelings as me. People from around the world. Russia and Serbia. America and Canada. The UK and most of the EU, even as far flung as Brazil and Malaysia. All of us touched my his works. And this made me happy. Even though he has died, Pratchett has made an everlasting impact on people across the globe. He can truly be said to have made the world a better place and I can only hope that he understood that in his last moments.
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Anyone here ever played the Ankh-Morpork board game?
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/k/ here. Wanted to say how sorry I am to hear about this. My dad loved Discworld and probably some of his other books. I should pick up those books and read them myself.

I don't know the equivalence, but I remember at least one guy from /tg/ coming to /k/ when Mikhail Kalashnikov passed away to give good wishes. I remember things like that. They may not seem important, but they're important to me. I appreciate and honor those things. I honor them with Mr. Roger's words.

Have a good time on the other side, Terry. We will all miss you.
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>>38667841

Sounds like a compounded problem. You'll get through this.

You read Sir Pratchett's books? How'd you start reading them? Which do you like most?
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>>38667934
Thanks anon. /k/ seems like a cool place, I wish I had stuff to contribute there.
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>>38667934
I'd give you guys a picture of the Gonne if I had it, seeing as it's probably /k/ related.
If evil sentient guns are /k/ related that is.
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>>38667904

I agree, mainstream entertainment has gone down the shitter in a big way. 20 years back, a good outbreak of cholera would be all the talk around the water cooler, and now you can't even get more than a few tweets for a nice hearty case of measles.

It's an injustice.
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>Terry Pratchett had the Story Book ending

Even in the end, he gets one last hit in for Narrative Causality.
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>>38667943
I started with good omens and then heard the discworld series was the hitchhiker's guide of fantasy books so I picked up the starting books to most of the major sagas and started reading the color of magic at summer camp. I loved it and then went to mort and equal rites. I'm still not all the way through but I fell in love with the world and all of its idiosyncrasies. Slow moving light, death as a character, a wizard who's only capable of casting one spell, and a godess who turns on your as soon as you mention her aid are all brilliant and hilarious ideas.
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>>38667973
>evil sentient guns
I'm throwing money at my screen, but nothing's happening.
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>>38667991
Anyone here read Hat Full Of Sky?
There's a part in it where this really ancient looking witch dies. The people in the town she watches over practically worship her, she's like Baba Yaga to them. And she realizes she's gonna die, she's known for awhile, and she realizes that she can't just die in her bed, that's what mortals do. And even though it turns out she's mostly all show, to the people she's not human. So when she realizes she's dying, she invites the townsfolk to her cottage, has a massive banquet set up, and after it's done she walks out of her cottage, steps into the grave they dug for her, the clock she wears lets out one last BONG and it's over, she's dead. The people pay their respects and leave.
Then when they're gone she climbs out of the grave, and goes back into her cottage to die in peace.
Pratchett knew what was coming, one way or another. He had time to prepare and set the show.
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>>38668081
It was probably one of the most apparently british mentality parts of the series (not that most of the world has a perspective about guns like the US's).
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>>38649163
Ah fuck it. A little while ago I wrote a letter to him telling him how much I liked his books. I planned to send it to him but I got distracted by stuff and didn't remember it until I heard about him dying today. Fuck I feel bad about this.

Damn it /tg/ first Nemoy, now Pratchett, why are all the good people dying now when the world is getting shittier and shittier and we fucking need them?
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>>38668081
Go read Men At Arms man, it has reverse-existence pork, clown murder, and hot werewolves taking the virginity of adopted dwarves.


>>38668109
Pratchett always said it'd be great to know when you die, because then you could attend your own funeral a day before.
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>>38667973
>>38668081
Now you've reminded me of The Lazy Gun and Iain M. Banks and I'm worried about the future of sci-fi and fantasy again....

Any new authors worth noting? I've read Richard K. Morgan, Brandon Sanderson Joe Abercrombie and Patrick Rothfuss but are there any others beyond those guys who might rise to Pratchett/Banks levels?
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>>38668126
I always thought it was great how when Vimes figures out what the gonne is he realizes that the very idea of it must be totally abhorrent to the Assassins Guild.
That book was one of my favourites, I loved the bits with Detritus and his dwarf buddy.
Detritus smashing through the gate to the Assassin's Guild with Strappi's broken axe was one of my favourite scenes in the book.
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>>38667934

Thanks, /k/. You guys are crazy, sometimes not the good crazy, but you've always been a good buddy to us. That means something.

Thank you for representing in our time of grief.

>>38668147

Update the note, send it anyway. Let his family know. I'm sure his daughter would love to know how much people enjoyed his books.

Maybe you can't let the man know how much he meant to you, but you can let his daughter know how much her father was loved.
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>>38668126
I guess, but it still makes sense.
Really really powerful things in the Discworld tend to develop sentience. We know from Raising Steam that pretty much anything can become a god. The gun represented a huge leap forward in technological weaponry, made sense by Discworld's laws that it'd basically be alive and evil.
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>>38668199
I love how Discworld logic works. Makes for great campaign stuff.
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>>38668199
True enough. It's certainly not heinous or anything, and the conceable, easy to notch crossbows that show up later fill in for the "gun-control debate" in the setting anyway. It was something to note, though.
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I just started my grand rereading of Discworld 2 days ago to get caught up with the new ones

Pratchett and Adams have influenced the way I speak/write/act more than any other person I have never met

Sir Terry will be sorely missed
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>>38668199
The think about the gonne is I'm not entirely certain it's actually sentient. It's just a concept that runs so counter to everything in Discworld. It's so amazingly seductive, because it's a weapon that doesn't require the wielder to be particularly skilled. Like, if you pull the sword out of the stone, you still have to wield the damn thing. And if you're going to kill a King with it, you best hope you're really good at it, because their's a lot of people between you and him.
But the gonne changes all that. You just have to point it and pull. It completely levels the playing field, it takes away the romance to it. And when you realize what it's capable of, it's pretty damn hard to set it back down.
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>>38668235
It was less the fact that it was made for killing, because there's plenty of weapons in Discworld like that, and more of the fact of what it represented.

>>38668286
It's in that weird sentience that concepts in Discworld have. Like the Summoning Dark. You could argue at first that it was just Edward's own emotions getting the best of him, but it's pretty clear from several things that the gonne has a will of its own.
Inanimate objects always make great villains.
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>>38668320
Yeah, I guess that is how it works in Discworld, they're sentient but they're also not sentient. When people believe in things they gain power, but most of that power is only over the people that believe in them. The gonne is sentient, but only to the person wielding it, and it's not the sort of thing to hold a conversation. But it has a power to it all the same.
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>>38668372
It's like the small gods. Just enough power for a single person.
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>>38668038

He made such a weird world. He somehow took everything common to fantasy, and he put it all together into one world but made it work, and he made it work as something entirely of his own.

I liked Equal Rites, I also loved Mort as well, /co/ did a dump of the graphic novel if it's still up. The books with Death are always great. You're still in for a lot of fun, every book introduces something new and novel.
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>>38668437
>He somehow took everything common to fantasy, and he put it all together into one world but made it work, and he made it work as something entirely of his own.
That's what I loved about it.
I really kinda disagree for that reason that he's the fantasy version of Adams.
Plus I think he's better.
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>>38668174
I don't know about Prachett/Banks levels, but I'm very fond of the Max Gladstone's "Craft Sequence" books. It's basically magic as lawyering, apparently drawn from the utterly fantastical sounding terminology his wife and her friends were discussing when in law school.

There are three books out now, and they all follow a sort of Discworldian pattern of following different characters in different situations in different areas of the same world. They're not as unendingly witty and hilarious as Discworld, but they have their own humor and whimsical mirrors on the moderns world. He's also released one reasonably sized book a year for the last three years (though looks to not be doing so this year).

The first book is about the suspicious circumstances surround the death of a god of fire (who basically used his power to allow his city to be steampunk). The second is about the possible freeing of two old, aztec-like god serpents who were subjugated by a bunch of immortal mages when they got tired of all the blood sacrifices. And the third is about a conspiracy among a bunch of mages that make faux-gods in Hawaii that function as off shore bank accounts for people to put their soulstuff in. The first book is also one of the most moving analyses of religion I've read in a genre book since Small Gods.

The titles of the books also have a clever thing where they indicate what chronological order they take place in, and relatively how far apart they are. (Three Parts Dead, Two Serpents Rise, and Full Fathom Five were released in that order, but Two Serpents Rise takes place first and Full Fathom Five is quite a bit later than the first two).
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>>38668174
I've only read one book by Felix Gilman (pic related) but it has huge potential. It's inspired by the Taming of the West, with The Gun representing (and empowering) the Billy the Kids of the world in their bitter struggle with The Line, nasty demons of smog and metal who aim to cover the world in assembly lines.
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>>38668437
I tend to love fiction with elaborate footnotes, hence my love for Douglas Adams as well.

>>38668446
We can agree to disagree on the last bit but my intent with the comparison was more along the lines of their positions in their respective genres. Discworld is the quintessential genre parody of fantasy and Hitchhiker's Guide is the quintessential scifi parody.
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>>38668446
Adams only wrote four books, and the last two were pretty lackluster.
Plus he hated writing novels.
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>>38668562
Discworld started as a genre parody, but it grew into so much more. You can still see how it parodies fantasy in later books, but the focus is a celebration of humanity.
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/tg/, I just want to thank you for all the good will and support you have given the fans. Thank you, Sir Prachett, for making your books true and fantastic. Good night, and trust the giant turtle.
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>>38657966
Mexican here, I only found a second hand Pyramids translation from spain and I regret not buying the other books only for the stupid reason of not having money and that I allready read them, the other 4 or 5 books that I had read was trough PDF, I need to print them really because its just useless to search for them.
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>>38668174
Also, Paolo Bacigalupi. The Windup Girl is an exhilarating tale that takes a familiar dystopian world and gives it a Thai flavor. The worlds food supplies had been almost completely annihilated through biological warfare that targeted crops. Many nations are now, officially or no, under control of huge "Calorie Companies" that supply the world's food, who constantly have to update their seeds against the rapidly mutating parasites and viruses that nearly destroyed civilization. Thailand has remained independent through a combination of fierce isolationism and a genetic treasure trove of seedbanks that they'd managed to protect when shit hit the fan.

The plot revolves around a Calorie Man's attempts to access the seed bank, the people who try to stop him, and an illegally imported machine-girl caught in the middle.
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I'm sorry that he left us. I'm currently reading his novels (going slowly at it due to real life.) Damn, I'm sad now.

>>38653656
>tfw you'll never be knighted no matter what kind of cool stuff you do with your life
Sometimes it hurts to be an American.
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>>38668734
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01/29/uk_knighthoods_for_foreigners_what/

Americans can be Knighted.
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>>38668724
This was fun and innovative. I highly recommend it.
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>>38668734
A few US vets from WW2 were knighted by the french.
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>>38655245
This is the reason I hated my English classes in High school (and college, now that I think about it) even though I'm an avid reader.
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>>38668475
>>38668532
>>38668724
Thanks for the recommendations.
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>>38668636
I agree wholeheartedly but I also think Adams would have done something similar if he hadn't died so soon. So Long and Thanks for All the Fish made me feel a lot of things I didn't think that book series would make me feel. I don't think I'm going to try and discuss this further because apparently I just let my guard down for the first time today and am now crying about this whole deal. I wish reality would stop taking my worlds.
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>>38657746
I think it was rather painless. At least, I'd like to think it was. Dementia is oftentimes more painful for loved ones than the one affected, I believe.
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RIP, Sir Terry.

Where's my copy of Monstrous Regiment got to...?
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Anyone else read Nation?

>>38668475 especially.

I thought it was remarkably... eloquent, I guess I'd say.
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>>38669044
I really liked Nation. I still haven't read Raising Steam, and will be buying a copy today.

>>38660889
Oh, like all of them wouldn't show up for him.
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>>38669044
(>>38668475 here)
No, I haven't actually. I'm actually criminally behind on his non-Discworld work. I've only read Good Omens and Dodger.

I should probably fix that when I get the chance.
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>>38668750
>>38668809
Oh. Well, then, I better get to ass-kicking if I want to be called Sir anon.
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>>38669044
Nation was fantastic. The whole thing was just incredibly touching, particularly the description of the boy's zombie-like state when he got back to his home.
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>>38664344
Cowardly talentless hack reporting in - IT'S ON.
It might take some time, tho.
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>>38669220
Remember, if at first you don't succeed, try again.
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>>38668636

I never realized how much of my worldview, and how I treat people, and how I just speak and write and act, is due to this one author.

He's made me a better person, his characters have made me a better person. Best way I can thank him is to just keep on improving and reading and learning.

Sir Terry Pratchett is dead, but he's still here. Corny as it sounds.
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>>38669044
The thing I remember most vividly was realizing that the boy basically makes himself a pair of Daisy Dukes out of some pants because he wants the pockets.
Also that it was a good book.
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>>38669215
I liked his conversations with Death. Yama, maybe his name was? I can't remember, I read it back in high school. But goddamn I liked it.

The final (or at least climactic) exchange still sticks with me, in essence even if I can't remember the words.
You are a worthy individual. I can offer you passage to the better world.
"No. I will stay here and make this one better."
...
"Is that what all who are worthy say? Has anyone ever accepted your offer?"
I am only given one offer to make, but I am very, very good at it.
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Anyone else have a copy of Where's My Cow?
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>>38669457
Yes. It's cute to see Vimes in dad mode.
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>>38659415
Actually, the Swedish translation is really good.
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>>38669482
Does that have different art for the Russian version?
Vimes and Foul Ol' Ron look more slavic.
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>>38669523
No, this the same art. I don't think it was released in Russian to be honest. This is just the best quality of the illustrations i could find online.
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>>38656383
>>38656403
>>38656430
>>38656454
>>38656484
>>38656504
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>>38656559

Here's hoping, Azrael.
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I have never read discworld.
I'm new to the fantasy novel scene and have already read Name of the Wind/Wise Man's Fear and I'm starting The Way of Kings
Is Discworld worth a read? And whats it about?
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>>38658023
What would each of them play?
I could see Adams as a bard, Pratchett as a wizard.
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>>38669457
I do. And the Thud boardgame.
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>>38669578
About 1062 posts say it is.

It's about (at first) a love letter to 70s fantasy.
It's about (mostly) a world that runs on narrative tropes, and satirizing the modern world through the lens of a fantasical 19th century world.
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>>38669578
>Is Discworld worth a read?
You have three threads across the entire site with thousands of posts mourning its author
Hell yes it is
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>>38669578
Im just gonna tell you it is really worth it.
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>>38661281
Christopher Lee will outlive us all. He will probably also save humanity from alien invasion at some point.
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>>38669535
Jesus christ.
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>>38669617
kek
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>>38669578
The first few Discworld books, starting with The Color of Magic, are pure (and extremely good) parody of fantasy genre fiction, with stuff like wizards who ascend the rungs of academia by assassinating the ones above them with tenure, dragons that are so magical they cease existing if exposed to too much non-imagination, and a cosmopolitan fantasy city where the anthem includes "ner ner ner, ner ner ner ner" in the chorus because nobody remembers the actual words anymore.

After that they start into real worldbuilding and more serious stories. There's always an undercurrent of levity, but there's a lot of examining of serious stuff like growing up and adulthood, the value of belief, whether it's really worth preserving the past, and so on.
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>>38669617
>filename
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Anyone have the screencap?
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>>38669578
Discworld is more of setting. Each book takes place on Discworld, but has a different story. There are characters that show up between books.
It's most certainly worth a read. I think they're brilliantly funny.
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>>38652506
But you haven't killed yourself, have you?
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Know what got me to cry about his death? Not the news, not the paste of Terry talking to Death, not his daughter's tweets...

It was when someone posted a bit about Archchancellor Stibbons in the first thread that got me.
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>>38669578

It's worth it. But Discworld is a setting, not a single book, with many different groups of characters who all have their own storylines.

If you don't take our word for it, the thousands of posts, across multiple boards expressing exasperation, exhaust, relief for an end to his suffering...
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I ATE'NT DEAD
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>>38665917
would porn with a sane female heroines work too?
the exchange of power is important, but does the heroine have to be that boring and weak? it also makes the male character weak, or at least not as strong as one that could get that from a girl with spirit.
I'm comparing Bella and Ana to the girls in the Locke Lamora series, the difference is incredible... and yet those bland characters work? is the effective heroine, a partner in the cast's capers and worth being chased, a purely male fantasy? or are they just harder to write, and the blank, bland, and slightly brainwashed everywoman the low hanging fruit?
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>>38669739
They're blank so people can self insert in them, nothing more.
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>>38656711
underrated post
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>>38669320
It's his own words. "Man's not dead while his name is still spoken."

And Pratchett is someone whose name will be spoken for a long time.
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>>38657966
Swede here, read a bunch of them in Swedish, but have been trying to read them in English as much as possible. The translations are okay, but not as good as the English, obviously.

There's an extra footnote in one of the books, though, where the translator just gives up and gives an explanation on one of the jokes.
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>bought steam yesterday and thought about terry
>today he is ded

It feels like I lost a friend
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>>38669806
i really really hope this brings a lot more attention to his work
it's just such a wonderful series and really deserves more recognition
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One day I was in the fantasy/scifi section of the local big ass bookstore and was asking about something new to read. The employee described some author as, "Like if Discworld was good". That was about 5-6 years ago. All I said back was "Those are some fighting words".
I'm happy there are so many other people who like Terry Pratchett.
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>shitty genre fiction hack died
And nothing of any conceivable value was lost...
Fuck Pratchett and fuck Discworld
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>>38669889
I'm not worried about the recognition it gets now. What I want is Pratchett's recognition to outlive me, any children I may have, and all of their children. The man's work deserves it.

And if that becomes the case, my only regret would be that I wouldn't be around to see it.

It's past midnight here and my thoughts are getting existential.
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>>38669961
Well, all you can do is give his books to your children anon.
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>>38669956
I don't think /tg/ is the board for you. Please leave quietly.
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>>38669956
/lit/ please, we get you're insecure about everything, but don't shovel it around.
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>>38669956
You know if you want people to agree with you you could always go to >>>/lit/
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>>38669956
/lit/, you should try reading the material before commenting.
it doesn't matter that Eco said it's a different reading level, that allows for a different critique, lost forever once you're actually read the material, you're putting your foot in your mouth all the same.

the real question is, is that your fetish?
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>>38658799
You're not alone, anon.
You have my keyboard.
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>>38669735
just started reading carpe jugulum last week or so
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so /tg/ you guys like maps.

Anyone making Ankh-Morpork in Cities Skylines or something similar?
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>>38669956
It's not like when Robin Williams offed himself. We don't gain anything from Pratchett becing gone, and unlike that unloveable hack addict Williams, ol' Terry went out of his way to be good to people and support art in all its forms.
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So what does this mean for the Watch TV show
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>>38670288
Still going on
Pratchett had written stuff up for that years ago. We know the Monty Python guys and his daughter are heading it up now
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>>38670255
There's already a map
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>>38670324
Yep.
I know.
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>>38670324
Out of curiosity, what do each of the cardinal directions stand for? It's been forever since I've read it, I can't remember.
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>>38669638
"Ner ner ner" was actually the original lyrics for the second verse because the composer knew it would not be remembered anyway.
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>>38670396
Hubwards (towards the Hub), Rimwards (towards the Rim), Turnwise (the direction that the Disc rotates in), and Widdershins (opposite to Turnwise).
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>>38657966
Croatia. Bought my first Discworld book as a random pick in some NY bookstore, now I own almost every book (cookbook, map, guide, etc.) that belong to Discworld series. It's all strictly in English, cause you can't really translate names and puns properly.
Lots of my friends like Discworld, and at least two of them own a dozen or more of DW books.
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>>38670414
I remember a bit in Unseen Academics where it's mentioned that anyone who remembered past the first verse was considered suspicious.
I also remember something about the war cry of Ankh-Morpork was essentially "we sold you all your weapons, pay up"
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>>38661662
I totally didn't even know Christopher Tolkien was even still alive.

It's kinda funny, I was reading that he disowned his son at one point from his first marriage, because they had a disagreement on the LotR movies. For some reason, I find that shit absolutely hilarious.
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>>38670431
I love how the first book explains how the Disc actually has 8 seasons, basically doubles of each of our seasons.
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>>38670464
I just learned that apparently Christopher Lee is the last man alive who was taught by Tolkien, not counting his family.
Also that Tolkien had promised Lee the role of Gandalf if a play was ever made of the books.
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I know it might be a bit morbid, but what Discworld books would you have loved to see from Pratchett?

I would have loved some more attention to the guilds. Pyramids was awesome, simply because we learned about the assassins' guild.
A book about the Guild of Lawyers could have been cool. It could deal with aspects such as justice, fairness, law, being right vs. proving you're right, the Watch attitude towards lawyers, etc.
I loved getting some new info about Ankh-Morpork and how it functioned, and I'd have loved reading about how it dealt with law, (after Vimes' watch had caught the the criminals).
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>>38670496
Oh man, a Lawyers Guild book would be great. The way all the Guilds worked was so cool, it would've been interesting to see the inside working of another.
And on the topic of Slant, just a book about the Undead in general would be good. I loved Reg Shoe in the Nightwatch, because it was just described as him getting filled with quarrels and not going down, and eventually "dying" because he realized that there was no way he should still be alive.
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>>38670479
Take about the same amount of time as ours, though. Their years is just twice as long.

Don't think it ever comes up much, though. Casual things like time and distances can't be fucked with too much, though, because they're meant to impart easy to understand information to the reader. You can make them all funky for your purposes (such as making jokes about nutty measurement standards), but most of the time you're going to have to concede to understandability when you want to give an impression of how old someone is or how far away something is.

That said, not sure how many specific measurements actually come up in the books. You can usually get around such things, I imagine, by giving vague and general statements lacking specific units.
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>>38670531
I always liked the way that worked out. For all the joking about the silliness of saying "you can take my life, but you can never take my freedom," in the end, Reg Shoe lost his life.

But he never lost his freedom.
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>>38670562
The whole thing where he's standing there, chest full of quarrels, and then hammer punches one of the mercs is amazing. And then they all open up on him and he's goddamn dancing as they turn him into a pin cushion, and they're freaking out because they don't understand what's happening.
It was nice to get a glimpse at what Reg used to be like, compared to modern day where he's doddering and polite.
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>>38670539
Yeah, he toned down the really crazy facts in the later books, when the world went from fantasy hijinks that jumped from one isolated crazy situation to the next, to something more relatable.
The first two books had a lot of "rules", that he later ignored. Afterwards he just altered some minor stuff, like the speed of darkness and stuff.
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>>38670539
yeah but a lot of their holidays are still only once a year. Imagine Christmas once every two years.
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The sun went down one last time and now only a burning ball of gas illuminates the sky.
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And, with great relief, and general optimism, and a feeling that on the whole everything could have been much worse, Terry Pratchett died.
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Goodby great creator. I'll need to give his books another re read.
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>>38670678
>‘Ah, well, life goes on,’ people say when someone dies. But from the point of view of the person who has just died, it doesn’t. It’s the universe that goes on
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;_;7
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Thursday the twelfth was a worse day than Friday the thirteenth. I'd imagine Pratchett would appreciate this.
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Now, /tg/, there is Towel Day to commemorate Douglas Adams.

What do we do to honour Terry Pratchett?
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>Terry Pratchett is kill
>have to tell gf this
>she will probably have a seizure
maybe it's better if she discovers it herself next month or something
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>>38671000
If it's going to really affect her it's probably better that you're there to provide comfort.
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>>38671019
and by comfort you mean holding her hand, gazing in her eyes longingly
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>>38671067
If that's what comforts her, sure. I was thinking more like holding her and rubbing her back or something. Assuming she's going to cry that is.
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>>38652577
My vote would be for Thief of Time. That was my favourite book for years and years.

My biggest regret is that Rincewind is never going to cast his spell.

I mean, I know that was the point of it, and that casting it would ruin it, but I always had quiet hopes in the back of my mind that he'd find a way to write something in that would be satisfying and sufficient.
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I have a letter from him somewhere, signed and with a discworld turtle stamp, from when I wrote him one when I was 7.

I have no idea where it is, but knowing that it exists or existed is enough for me.
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>>38671105
He casted that spell in Light Fantastic though.
By Raising Steam he's a professor doing nice quiet boring research.
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>>38671093
this is the most spot on, and probably what will happen.
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>>38657170
A unique world that, despite its insanity and humorous bent, manages to conform to its own rules and function properly as a setting.

And some hella good stories.
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>>38657966
England. My dad, who is also a fan, gave me some of his books when I was young, maybe five or six. Been reading them ever since.

My one talent in life is writing.
I owe my entire writing style and passion to Terry Pratchett.
Rest in peace, you marvellous old bastard.
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Shitnuggets.

I wish I had something more poetic to say. But that's pretty much how I feel right now after learning about this.

Anyone read the original carpet people?
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I'm devastated to hear he has passed.
I discovered the Discworld series in middle school, and since then his books and characters have been my constant companions throughout my life.

May his past and future works live on in L-space. ;_;
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Anyone know of a place to get a good hardcover edition of the discworld series? The best place I found charges $12 per book, and I'm not too sure if all of those will be published in the same hardcover style.
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>>38671334
anywhere local, since shipping costs
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>>38671334
You have to try your luck at used bookstores or similar places.
Problem is that now that he's dead demand will go up
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>>38671123
I thought he got through something like 6 of 7 words and then got saved before saying the last?
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>>38671353
No, he said all of them, that's what made A'tuin's eggs hatch.
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I met a girl at a Discworld convention many years ago
We got married last year
We now have a 9 week old child

Yeah this has hit us quite hard
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Fuck damn it why am I still crying?
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>>38671375
Fuck, I'm going to have to re-read it. It has been about 10 years.
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>>38671341
>>38671346
Any recommendations for which editions I should look for?
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So. Does anyone know anything about that BBC watch thing they said they were going to do and then didn't mention again?

>>38671310
>;_;
Rot in hell, faggot.
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>>38654856
He already did it. Gurps discworld
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Please don't hate but I didn't enjoyed his books.

I really liked his mythos and creative imagination thought.

Rest in Peace.
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>>38671429
No hate zone here. What books did you read?
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>>38671449
Only read fragments of a book or two can't remember their names, sorry.

One was one about a lake that suddenly dried and revealed a city underneath it I think?
Two neighborhood cities then fought for it. And there was something about the guilds and the citizens barely paying taxes and one of the two cities being super duper poor and the citizens rich as hell.

My memory isn't the best, can't recall more.
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>>38671481
That was Jingo
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>>38671492
You are right!

It wasn't the lake who dried but the island on it the one that ascended. I might give it a try again, I think I ditched it because my taste on books during my early teens wasn't the best one and I thought it was way too childish.

Thank you very much anon.
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>>38671481
Jingo, and that's not a good starter book.
Try Mort instead.
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>>38671515
Mort's okay. I read it when I was about eight or something, didn't understand much other than that Death was a fucking beast.

I'd suggest Guards Guards as the best entry, personally.
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>>38649163
it really blows. i was in training for my job (dementia care) on wednesday and had said about how he was coping really well with his alzheimers - about how he is an example of the fact you are still a person when youve got "the embuggerance" eating away at you. next day he is dead. argh.
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did he die naturally or did he get euthanasia like he was saying years before?
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>>38669842
Yeah i have that book too. The footnote in question is about the Imp y Celyn/Budy Holly joke in Soul Music. The one and only time i've seen a translator insert a footnote with "Oh bugger. I give up, this needs an explanation"
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>>38671514
If you want to go with Watch Books to start, Guards! Guards! is a good starting book.

Try to read the books in chronological order, there are callbacks to earlier books in pretty much any Pratchett book.
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>>38671555

Apparently he died naturally, in his sleep with his cat at the foot of his bed.

Not a bad way to go.
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>>38654705
Awesome
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>>38671577
agreed, not a bad way. I want to die like that too.
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>>38671555
Naturally. Would be odd for him to take his own life and not tell anyone after being a guy who was a huge proponent of having the right to take his own life
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>>38657966
Brasil.
>not so much huehuehue today.
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What was your first Discworld movel? Mine was Equal Rights. Up to this day, Esk is probably my favourite DW character, and the best child character I ever encountered in a book.
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I cried like a baby yesterday. Not immediatly though.

I was sitting quietly on the sofa when an image popped into my head.

I imagined Terry lying in the bed with the cat lying next to his legs.
I imagined how he sat up, looked at his body and then up to Death. The very thought, that Death would greet him like an old friend made me so sad... I started crying like a little baby and my gf hat to take care of me.

Sobbing and crying I told her about what I just imagined and tried to explain Death's voice to her. I imagined the following conversation:

And what's next?

WELL, THAT IS UP TO YOU.

Right now I am crying again just thinking about how he will venture on, Death at his side while they have a little conversation like old friends.

My gf didn't really know how to handle me and promised she would read his books since they seemed to be so special to me.

It makes me sad that he is gone. I am thankful, that he lived.

RIP Sir Terry Pratchett
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>>38671612

The Last Hero. I picked it off the School Library Shelf for the Illustrations, and was captivated by the story.
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>>38671612
Guards! Guards! or Sourcery from the library. I'll be forever grateful to the guy who introduced me to the Discworld.
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-10 hp
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>>38665548
>woundn't make a dorf wearing a scary mask
>That then would proceed do run up to monsters and one shot punching them to death.
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>>38671612
Hogfather, the cover looked to lively to an 8 year old me, and from there i hunted them down relentlessly, read 2 more (eric and equal rites) that we had in the school library, went to high school, found the library had all of them, finished the other 20 in 1 year.

shaped who i ma now.
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>>38649163
I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that reading Pratchett's books when I was younger made me a fundamentally better person. The sensible and decent humanism he displayed made me interact with the world with empathy and understanding. I think one of his best quotes is from his acceptance speech when he won the Carrnegie Medal for The Amazing Marurice and his Educated Rodents:

'Fantasy is more than wizards. For instance, this book is about rats that are intelligent. But it also about the even more fantastic idea that humans are capable of intelligence as well. Far more beguiling than the idea that evil can be destroyed by throwing a piece of expensive jewellery into a volcano is the possibility that evil can be defused by talking. The fantasy of justice is more interesting that the fantasy of fairies, and more truly fantastic. In the book the rats go to war, which is, I hope, gripping. But then they make peace, which is astonishing.'
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>>38671612
Never read any. Are they actually any good, or is it a nostalgia thing?
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>>38657966
Russian as well.

The translation is really good actually.

>>38671612
Mine was the colour of magic

many people slam it but i was hooked
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>>38671678
Any discworld or any of the earlier ones? Because by god, read the discworld if you haven't. If you just mean the earlier books, they're not the best in the series but they're still very good.
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>>38666850
>A 92 year old man recording metal albums for fun and acting? Now I'm interested.
Yeah, he does vocals for Charlemagne themed metal.
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>>38658284
He was not doing Tolkien elves

he was doing Sidhe
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>>38671693
I haven't read anything by Terry Pratchett. I've seen the film with David Jason though.
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>>38671731
The Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic?
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>>38657097
It used to have a sticky, but /lit/ despises Pratchett.

Jesus, that thread was so vile.

What kind of a shit human being do you have to be to see a memorial thread and use it to assert your own superiority?

>What's wrong with genre fiction is that eventually, those who read it always say inverted snob jock shit like that third sentence. What's wrong with genre fiction is it doesn't engage reason to the point that you wouldn't try to fucking other people who read books by authors you don't happen to have heard of. Those of us who read literature get treated like Jews in Nazi Germany all the fucking time by you people, and it's impossible not to conclude that this is going to harm society, and particularly those members of it who enjoy those books.

This is what the entire thread was like. 1500 posts.
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>>38671743

Genre fiction? There is fiction without a genre?
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>>38671743
/lit/ is a containment board these days for pseudo-intellectuals, what did you expect
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I think I'm going to buy Colour of Magic now. Where's a good place to get a copy? I don't want to end up with a crap cover or something.
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>>38667065
here's the thing okay

every board has things people >like

in /v/ it's asscreed, call of duty, sports games

in /tg/ it's d&d

in /a/ it's naruto

And guess what? You can still discuss those freely on those boards. Not so much on /lit/. What fucking shit people.
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>>38654705
Oi. Someone on FunnyJunk likes you.
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>>38671743
>lumping Pratchett with genre fiction
I'd call fallacy, but /lit/ loves its dick sucking.
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Something about everything right now has made me incredibly depressed, but I have the curious feeling that reading some of Pratchett's works would work to alleviate my malaise.
Too little to late for a man with an established conception of the world, but...
What would you all recommend as reading for someone in need of a reason to wake up in the morning?
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>>38671778
You don't think /lit/ actually knows what they're talking about do you?
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There's one final Discworld novel coming out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shepherd%27s_Crown
Was completed last year before he finally went full Alzheimer's.
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>>38671558
I don't trust that guy. He looks too Elvish.
>>38671612
Making Money. Took me longer than I'd like to admit for me to realise it was the sequel to the book I'd been wanting to read for ages (I was really into conmen/diplomancy at the time and had wanted to read Going Postal ever since I'd seen it in a second hand bookshop).

>>38671759
Yeah, pointless statement! fiction (shit like Ulysses). You know, like if all you had in the Pratchett books were the political/social morals and not any of the comedy/storytelling that wraps it up.

I'll stick with the Worm Ouroboros and Neuromancer, personally.

>>38667149
Jesus, when I was thirteen I was drawing anarchist symbols and reading V, but even then I knew I was being a fucking prat that my future self would shake his head at (I still did it, anyway).
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>>38671807
>one last posthumous novel
>it's a Tiffany Aching
fuck yeah, not even death can stop him.
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>>38656713

You're forgetting someone.
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>>38671807
What is the Watch TV series gonna end up as? Is it still on?
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>>38649163

Good night sweet prince.
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>>38671854
Yeah. Filming began this year, his daughter is lead writer. Dunno how that will turn out, she's hit and miss though Overlord was one of her works and was fun.
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>>38671788
I'd reccomend starting reading, and not stopping.
It's humourous satire, so even when it's bitter it's fun, but it's often light, showing how life can still bring happiness even when something goes wrong, for the world wasn't completely right and square to begin with.
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>>38666850
not only did he record 2 metal albums, he also
>collaborated with Rhapsody of Fire (Italian metal band)
>was a RAF officer and Spec Ops
>descends from Holy Roman Empire nobility
>voiced Death in the Discworld cartoons
>is the only person involved with LOTR to have actually met Tolkien
etc.
when he dies, it will be the end of an era.
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>>38671923
oh, and if you need a guide, check this out

>>38652657
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>>38671612
For me it was Interesting Times.
I finished it in 2 afternoons.
Funny thing is, It's one of his weaker ones in my opinion, but for the first time it was amazing.
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>>38671927
>descends from HRE nobility
No, m8, he descends from Charlemagne. Which is much more impressive. Well, everyone in Europe descends from Charlemagne, but he descends from him more.

>>38671950
I thought it was pretty good. Not the best (in my opinion that's Jingo), but still pretty good.
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>>38671959
It is definitely the best out of the Rincewind novels for me though.
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>>38671959
no he doesn't. His mom descended from HRE nobility, the Carandinis.
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>>38655680
could be worse...
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>>38672078
yeah and they supposedly have a much bigger budget this time around
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>>38671934
>>38671923
Well, then, where to start?
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>>38671743

>Those of us who read literature get treated like Jews in Nazi Germany all the fucking time by you people

And into the trash it goes.
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>>38669616
>Implying he hasn't already

He knows how to keep secrets.
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>>38672227
Best response to a journalist I've ever read.
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>>38665548
I agree that he'd be shit, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be long-windedness. He'd be That Guy getting assblasted about every little inconsistency in the DM's maps and every gap in the history. HOW CAN I IMMERSE MYSELF IN THE GAME IF blah blah shut the fuck up, REUEL.

He'd basically be the "Tao of D&D" guy is what I'm saying.
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>>38661277
>>38661281
Impossible.
He stole the secrets of immortality from Nazis during WW2 and is slowly completing his transformation into a lich. That's all. That's why he looks how he does now. ;_;
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>>38672253
Apparently, he was pretty chill about that. He'd invent shit as he needed.

He seems inconsistently autistic. Like that one letter he sent to the German editor who asked if he was of full Aryan ancestry and had no Semitic ancestors where he sperged out over the misuse of the words Aryan and Semitic. But then he shoehorns The Hobbit into the world of Middle Earth.
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>>38672271
He could be pretty boss with the eloquent disses.

>Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing that they evidently prefer.
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>>38672186
start where you like
>Rincewind is about a mage who runs from trouble all the time, just to run into more trouble. He is followed by a magic chest which is also a murder machine.
>The witches are the protectors of a mountain village. Madam Weatherwax is badass. The first three novels are a parody of Skaespeare works.
>Tiffany Aching is about a little girl and her adventures with a crazy bunch of ugly, violent and drunkard male fairies.
>Death is about Death. As in, the spooky skeleton with the black vest and the big scythe. He's a funny guy, in his own way. These are probably the best books.
>The Watch is the ragtag band of misfits that passes for the police force of the city of Ankh Morpork. Their job is to do nothing. They end up saving it multiple times.
>Industrial revolution is about the age of inventions that may change the world, or explode in your face. Some of these were written with the help of Pratchett's daughter.
I also recommend reading Dodger, set in the Victorian London, you may find it hard to read though because it's written in ye olde englishe.
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>>38672334
I fucking hated Dodger. Nation was amazing, but Dodger just flowed way too badly for me to read.

Also, I'd describe the watch as more like
>the ragtag band of misfits that passes for the police force of the city of Ankh Morpork. Their job is to do nothing. They end up solving murders and saving the city while telling you that classism, racism and monarchies are a really, really bad idea
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>>38672186
any of the starter novels is good, maybe leave Rincewind for later, it starts a bit weakly, and the Ancient Civilization (IIRC) and Industrial Revolution (definitely) gain a lot if you already know the world a bit.
the Witches, Guards, and Death novels establish a lot of the universe, start with one of those.
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>>38672349
Ankh-Morpork is the kind of city I would love to adventure in.

It just makes so little sense, feels completely bizarre and contrary, and yet works.

Hard to argue with the One Man, One Vote policy, either.
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>>38672421
Unless you're in North Korea. In which case it's very easy to argue against, just not for any extended period of time.
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>>38672271
Wasn't the hobbit created as a test to see who was interested in his world? As in originally being part of middle earth, he just changed so much while writing Lotr it looks really different
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>>38671765
>I think I'm going to buy Colour of Magic now
Did it. Too bad it will take weeks to arrive. I'd love to read it tonight.
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>>38672458
Why weeks?
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>>38672458
Can't you just order one from a book store?
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I remember reading the Death series the first time. It took me about 4 days, I was curled up in bed and the wind was howling outside. Maximum comfy. It was one of the best weeks of my life.
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>>38672488
I did that but with the Road. We had to do it for school. I took so long because I couldn't stand reading the thing for more than half an hour at a time.
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Does anyone have a good reading order for the books?
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>>38672485
Ebay. Probably two weeks at most.

>>38672487
Well I didn't really think of that... I don't know if it would have been any quicker anyway.
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>>38652993

>Sandman's death you want to be friends with/cuddle.

Among other things.
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>>38672506
This >>38652657 is pretty good. Helps you visualize the different series.
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>>38672506
Read the thread, m8.

Honestly, you can start with any book. I started with Making Money, the sequel to another book.

>>38672510
The one I go to you can order niche shit like The Worm Ouroboros and have it by the next day.
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>>38669598
>Leonard Nimoy is a paladin of logic
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>“All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."

>REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

>"Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—"

>YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

>"So we can believe the big ones?"

>YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

>"They're not the same at all!"

>YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

>"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"

>MY POINT EXACTLY.
Keep on telling stories, /tg/.
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>>38660354
>>38660310
Funnily enough, most of the actual academics I know associated with literature departments have no issue with "genre fiction"; it's usually hipster idiots scrabbling for something to feel superior over due to a lack of their own achievements. It's one step up from trailer trash white nationalists, since at least you had to put the effort into reading something rather than just latching on to accidents of birth.
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>>38654510
It's like the fifty years rule in government, you apologize for something fifty years afterwards because it means that no one who made the mistake is likely to still be working there.
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>>38672554
I fucking love genre fiction. You can do it very well. I mean, look at all of us who love seventies/eighties style fantasy.

What I do hate with all the autistic rage I can summon up within my is YA fiction. It doesn't need to exist- Pratchett's living Shit. I forgot. Damn. proof of that. Have children's fiction, okay. I understand children are learning to read, obviously. Have adult fiction, sure. But you don't need anything in between. How many of us have read the Tiffany Aching series, and how many of us read shit like ASOIAF when we were thirteen? You don't need the Hunger Games (although that was decently written), and you definitely don't need all the follow-the-leader unimaginative empty-trousers-main-character Teen Fiction novels you have in every WH Smiths ever.

/Autism. Yes, I know about supply and demand, and that people have subjective opinions. This is /tg/, though, we argue about D&D.
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>>38671558
> Imp y Celyn/Budy Holly joke in Soul Music.
Russian translators didn't even bother and called him Dion Celyn.

>>38671759
They basically draw a line between genre fiction and literary fiction and claim that the latter has literary merit.

Any requests for a citation are met with "subjective is objective in art" and "it's a question of hierarchy".

You think I'm fucking joking? I played devil's advocate for a second and insisted that you can tell genre fiction from literary fiction from the shape of the paragraphs.

These chucklefucks genuinely agreed.

There's no literary analysis on /lit/. It's all Emperor's New Clothes trash.
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>>38672554
Over here where i live genre fiction is seen as childish and immature, unless it's a ultra-realistic criminal novels.

Fantasy and Sci-fi is seen as "bad" fiction by 99% of all critics and the few who actively support Fantasy & Sci-fi are seen as second rate critics.

Heck, the foreword in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy omnibus can pretty much be condensed into "Yeah Douglas Adams was a good writer, it's just a shame about the topics he wrote about"
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>>38671950
I'm reading Interesting Times right now.

Man, he is hard on East Asian imperialism.
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>>38672630
Where- no- when the fuck do you live?
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I honestly never expected Piers Anthony to outlive Sir Terry.

Goodnight sweet prince, ye shall be missed
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>>38672645

It's called the Sci-Fi/Fantasy Ghetto and it absolutely exists in certain places.

Sir Terry's passing hasn't made off of the news channels where I live.
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>>38672611
>What I do hate with all the autistic rage I can summon up within my is YA fiction
Oh fuck me, this.
I work with books, and 45% of the fucking YA fiction that passes through my hands seems to be the same "there's a moral to this story" shit that children's books are, but gussied up to be more mature. Not TOO mature, though, god forbid a teenager see some fucking.

The other 50% is banal supernatural romance with supah speshul vampires or werewolves or some shit. Did you know my Barnes & Nobles has a fucking Teen Paranormal Romance shelf now? But I digress.

Maybe the other 5% is something with an interesting topic that's maybe worth reading. The Hunger Games is tolerable, I guess, even though it ripped bloody chunks from Battle Royale and grotesquely pasted them to itself, over the same slightly dramatic romantic triangle setup as every other piece of YA lit.
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>>38672528
It might be a disservice to the other books, and I do love Vimes, or Moist, or Rincewind, or Granny, but some of what Death talks about feels like the best writing in the series.
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>>38668174
You could try The Red Knight, by Miles Cameron.
Pretty solid novel about a monster hunting merc group that get involved in a colossal shitstorm
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>>38672645
Sweden. It's gotten better the last few years but it's still hard as balls for fantasy & Sci-fi books to get any love in mainstream media or even bookstores. Thank the gods for SFBokhandeln, the one and only pure fantasy & sci-fi bookstore we have

The foreword in the Hichthikers guide to the galaxy omnibus was written in the mid-90s but my point still stands.
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>>38672656
Less in places than in minds of certain snobby critics.

Shit, I live in Russia and science fiction is highly respected here. We study Bradbury in foreign fic.

>>38672611
>>38672659
No, seriously, what the fuck is young adult fiction even? Young adults are still adults!
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>>38672639
Except it isn't East Asia.
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>>38672678
There's a thing called allegory you might not have heard of. Or also readers just being paranoid and creating allegory where there was supposed to be none, like Lotr.
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>>38672639
He's hard on "let's fuck everyone up because they disagree with us" and "We represent the peasants! Now, peasants, do what I say so you can be free!". He's just using China as a conduit for that (like he normally does), as you can see from the deliberately exaggerated version he gives (like never disobeying and the "interesting times" thing).

>>38672656
Where? I mean, I live in the UK, so I've never seen this.

>>38672674
Ah. That's another thing that isn't going to help Sweden's reputation.

>>38672659
>Not too mature
Or they vaguely mention it and then thirteen year olds buy it because it's dark and edgy (and also erotic enough).

When I read 'em (I got them as a present) I just skipped over the romance shit. I mean, I've always been bored out of my mind by it, but this was shit.

>>38672677
I read ASOIAF when I was thirteen, and Earthsea when I was ten. There's no need for YA, like I said.

>>38672678
Yes, it is. Well, a caricatured and exaggerated fantasy one.
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>>38667584
I confess I would like Rhianna to continue the Discworld in novels eventually. Let her sharpen her writing skills, perhaps stick mostly to her own characters, start somewhere else than Ankh-Morpork.

I do hope it happens in a few years, although /lit/ will hate it, given the treatment Christopher Tolkien sometimes gets.
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>>38672696
/lit/ won't care- they hate Pratchett anyway.
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Now more than ever.... I need to read his books.

No, scratch that, I WILL read his books.

...sigh... 2015 is becoming a bad year for us. In three months, Leonard Nimoy, Monty Oum, and now even Terry Pratchett? I truly hope it's a trend that doesn't continue.
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>>38672678
Agatean Empire's similarities with East Asia go further than superficial.

He makes some statements on human civilization in general, like the circular nature of revolution, but he also criticizes Korea, Japan and China. Isolationism, bureaucracy, obsession with tests as the determination of a human's worth, superficiality of education, form over function, it's all very much there.
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>>38672692
LotR is not allegory, it is however applicationism.

>>38672696
>>38672700
/lit/ will ironically like it.

/lit/ ironically likes Pynchon for example.
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>>38672677

No man, it's the area, believe me. In this area Fantasy books, even bestsellers are not allowed out of the Fantasy zone. If a fantasy zone is the number 1 bestseller, the number 1 slot in the bestseller area is left empty, even in chain bookstores.
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>>38672712
Although the tests themselves were like that for good reason. For the same reason British Civil Service tests in India required English and Latin. It's not possible to train someone (or test someone) on all the varied emergencies people would have to face in that position, so they test you on your ability to learn and to apply knowledge.

Of course, there's also a fair degree of classism involved with the fact that only the wealthy could get an education in something so relatively useless.
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At least someone still has their sticky up.
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>>38672779
I vote we never take it down.
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>>38672712
Not only about them. Its a warning to us, too. "Other people are eating the pig". Thats pretty relevant right now. Look at the situation in Europe.
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>>38672779
It's good that the /lit/ sticky was taken down. It was just a place for people to brag about how they are superior to genre fiction.

>>38672752
The scene with manure shovelers was spot on.

taking an exam because exams are the only way to determine one's worth

the tests being useless and completely unrelated to the subject

knowledge being static to the point where people pre-wrote the poems they were expected to write

and most importantly, blind memorization and strict adherence to conformist viewpoints as opposed to acquiring knowledge for the sake of applicability of that knowledge and building up problem-solving skills in general

>>38672841
Of course. He's not writing books for us to say "look at how stupid these chinks are" and he is not writing books for the Chinese to say "wow we sure are stupid are we not".
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>>38672868
Sure, the tests were a way to point out the stupidity in that way of thinking. I'm just saying that in reality they weren't stupid (I mean, a manure shoveller would never have to take an exam).

Fuck, now I really wish that I lived next to that dim sum place again. All this talk of China is getting me hungry for Chinese food.
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>>38672908
I'm talking about attacking the nature of a life-determining test itself.

I'm much more familar with Japan than China though, but there's a reason suicide rates spike so high after every exam. It doesn't matter that you can retake it next year, you have already failed as a person.

>I'm just saying that in reality they weren't stupid

East Asian education massively favors blind memorization over applicability of knowledge.
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Oh fuck him already.
Let the faggot rot.
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>>38673033
Here's your reply, /lit/.
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>>38654510
The literary establishment is largely a buddy buddy circlejerk.

Also see: speculative fiction in the XX century.
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>>38673013
>Weren't
I'm talking about the Mandarins and all that.

>>38673078
>XX century
What? Why not just say 20th?
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I wish I hadn't read the Science of Discworld. That was depressing as fuck.
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>>38673105
Is it an actual book? It looked more like a spin-off thing to me.
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Anguo and Carrot will never marry and have their children.

I'm assuming, I've only three books left till I've read them all
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>>38673117

It is a spin-off, but it goes into what science knows of death.
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>>38673131
No, you're right.
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>>38673086
>I'm talking about the Mandarins and all that.
Today's system largely apes the Mandarins.

Albeit Discworld is set in medieval-ish times, it mostly pokes fun at current situations. Ankh-Morpork is an ancap paradise etc.

>What? Why not just say 20th?
I'm Russian. We write centuries with Roman numerals. Since it's not wrong, just unconventional, I don't change the 25 year long habit for English text.
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>>38673145
>I'm Russian. We write centuries with Roman numerals.
Oh, cool, I didn't know that.

>Today's system largely apes the Mandarins.
No it doesn't, not least because it works for everything, not just bureaucracy. Also, like I said, classism always came into it.
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>>38673142
Sadness.

>Prachett sitting there
>Wondering how to say it
>Just staring at the screen
>Tears streaming down his face realizing he has to do it
>"The End"
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>>38672656

This is something Terry himself dealt with until the rise of Harry Potter. Even as recently as Monstrous Regiment, book stores weren't putting him in the bestseller section even though he was THE best seller. If Rowling accomplished anything, it was helping put genre in the front of the bookshop.
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>>38673160
East Asian imperialism is engulfed by an Glorious Heavenly Chinese Empire Of Old fetish, I don't understand how you think otherwise.
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>>>/lit/6263442
Lit is sitting there insulting the man.

Glad I never went there.
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>>38673227
I'm just saying that it's a mistake to think that the historical exams themselves were bad. They were good, and worked well.
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>>38673216

But Rowling also reinforced the stereotype that fantasy is for children/manchildren or satanists, which in this area, the bible belt, is bad enough for the ghetto to remain
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One sixpack down, two-thirds of a bottle of scotch and a single manly tear in the middle of a lab. goodnight, sweet prince. Australia out
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>>38673246
Thank God I don't live there.

I think George R. R. Martin is the guy who really made it mainstream for adults. As in, it was not only okay to say you liked fantasy (like Terry made it), but cool (well, kind of).
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>>38673246
Guess it's a regional thing, then. Out here fantasy was considered something for manchildren only UNTIL Rowling made it mainstream. Nobody bat an eyeleash here at adults reading Harry Potter.
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>>38673285 >>38673270

95% of people here are fine with it, to be fair.

The 5% that isn't are *very* loud.
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>>38673294
Just thank God you don't live in Australia. For multiple reasons, some related to this.
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>>38673239
Those who think (correctly, one has to admit) that /tg/ is incredibly up its own ass have NEVER seen /lit/.
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>>38657966
Portugal here
first time i learned about him was via the psx game and i just ordered the books in english because i liked the game so much
idk how the translations hold up
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>>38673335
Like I said it's emperor's new clothes bullshit.

I sometimes entertain myself in /lit/ by going there and doing literary analysis.

And by that I mean just blabbering. I dismiss well-regarded authors as hacks, spew completely random garbage about the reasons curtains were blue, and the like. No one calls me out on my bullshit. NO ONE. No one has EVER said "Hey, nothing you've just written makes an ounce of goddamn sense."

I have never dabbled in, and have no idea about, professional literary criticism like formalism etc.

Sokal affair crap.
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>>38671577
Maybe not quite. His final tweets say the cat was in bed, but not where he was.
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>>38672696
Terry outright said that as much as he likes his daughter's writing and would like to think of her as being the "inheritor" of the Discworld (in a symbolic sense, I guess), she would NOT be allowed to write new books about it. And I'd like the man's request to be followed. It's not all that unreasonable.

>>38673239

Got to like how most of the insults center around his political beliefs rather than his skills as a writer (most references to that are summed up with "GENRE FICTION IS SHIT"). Nice way being literary criticism big shots.
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Everyone hear that Good Omens cameo thing Gaiman posted on his tumblr?
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>>38673357
That's because, just like /pol/, a fairly large amount of it's posters are like you.

Of course, a lot are exactly as they seem.

>>38673413
How could /lit/ dislike his political views? They love literary fiction.
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>>38673357

So I'm an academic. I'm doing my Masters of Literature (and film studies, but whatever). I can actually spout literary criticism jargon that is pretty much entirely incomprehensible to anyone outside the field (although most of the time we actually talk like normal people, even in academic papers!).

From my perspective, /lit/ is like a bunch of 11 year olds sitting up the back of sex ed class, trying to show off their sexual experience by talking random shit they cribbed from teenage interest magazines or picked up half-understood from romantic comedy movies or asked their older sister about but she didn't tell them the full story because they were too young. One of them knows the word "blowjob" but thinks that it refers to blowing air, and one of the others says he can ejaculate on demand but doesn't realise that ejaculation is different from pissing and everyone ostracises the one boy who admits to the whole class he doesn't know what a bra is, even though that kid's actually paying attention to the teacher and learning shit.

This is /lit/, except their subject matter is literature and the source of their pretensions of understanding is TV Tropes.
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>>38673461
I wish they would have read TV Tropes at the very least. It's an interesting way of analyzing literature.

One of the most universally accepted opinions on that board is "genre fiction is shit because there are tropes in it"
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>>38673452
Even on /pol/ people say "hey you don't know what you're talking about".
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>>38673485
Except tv tropes has a whole load of problems on its own, maybe not as bad as lit, but close either way.
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>>38673485
>I wish they would have read TV Tropes at the very least. It's an interesting way of analyzing literature.
No! We need to kneejerk and hate on TV Tropes because the community is shit, even though the idea of tropes is a commonly accepted, and very good one.
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>>38673498
Most of the problems come from the politics behind it, though, not what's in it. Like >>38673506 said.
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>>38673498

Oh, sure, but TV Tropes's problems are related to being a drama-filled toxic community, not about the majority of information posted on the site being wrong 100% of the time. If you avoid actually interacting with the *users* there and just look at the *articles* it's a fairly useful (if fairly... shallow and entry-level, shall we say) resource.
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>>38673513
There are politics behind TVtropes?
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>>38673160
We spaniards do that, too.
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>>38673506
>even though the idea of tropes is a commonly accepted, and very good one.
No. Tropes lead to creative decay when they're overused. When you can only analyze or create something by labeling it with a collection tropes and trope exceptions, you have outsourced all of your creativity and critical thinking to the internet. A sufficiently advanced computer program could literally process that kind of "creative" thinking better than you.
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>>38673522

Internet drama power struggle let's-all-argue-about-rape politics, not real-life politics.
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>>38673517
The point of TVtropes is that if you see someone do something in a TV show or whatever that you think is cool, you can go there to receive a list of 500 obscure animes that do something similar.
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>>38673498
The TVTropes community is complete garbage. That's where all of its problems come from.

>>38673522
Use the forum for a while.

Actually, don't use the forum at all, never even go there. It's an incestuous petty leftist circlejerk with NeoGAF levels of moderator worship. It's routine for a mod there to asser his status as a mod in a discussion to win it.
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>>38673517
Which is why I think it's pretty great. It allows an otherwise complete "layperson" to have a discussion about a work they liked without having to get a degree at. I don't think that's bad at all.
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>>38673537
People don't actually reduce fiction to a collection of tropes, what are you talking about?

>A sufficiently advanced computer program could literally process that kind of "creative" thinking better than you.
>bla bla P=NP
/lit/ please
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>>38673544
I've browsed the forum, and I didn't find that kind if argument, admittedly, I stuck to the world building part of the forum, so that probably explains a lot.
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>>38673561
>People don't actually reduce fiction to a collection of tropes, what are you talking about?
Oh you poor, naive fool. You're lucky to have never met someone who describes things in a list of All Caps Trope Concepts or The Next Best Thing But Then Subverted Even Though It's Not Actually Related At All.
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>>38673544
Leftist isn't the problem, the circlejerk part is. Lots of Reddit is a righty circle-jerk, and it's no better.

>>38673574
It's also got Gaia Online/Tumblr levels of maymay worship (i.e. OMG We should totally make this a thing). But that's just subjective taste.
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>>38673537

Sure, and like any tool they can be misused. But that doesn't mean they're no longer useful. Certainly I wouldn't expect the average user of TV Tropes to improve their writing ability (in fact, I'd assume the average user leans to the side of misusing said tool) but tropes are real. They're not the be-all and end-all of fiction, works are not simply checklists of tropes that they use in certain ways, and TVT probably goes a little bit too far.

But the idea of tropes is both commonly accepted and a good one.
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>>38673544
Sad that it is, I'd take TvTropes' brand of leftist circlejerking and risk the occasional annoying rant about misogyny to /pol/'s infantile GAS THE JEWS circlejerks (I'd apply a political label to it but in all honesty most of it doesn't have any beyond GAS THE JEWS) any day of the week.
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>>38673545
>>38673543

Oh, I agree entirely. Not saying it's bad at what it does, and I use TVT for exactly that purpose, just letting a bit of my academic pretentiousness slip.
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I'm off to do the circuit for book stores in the area to find a copy of raising steam.
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memetastic sticky
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>>38671612
Feet of Clay. Still decidedly one of my favourites and not just because of nostalgia.

Pic not quite related, but very relevant.
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>>38667682
see
>38667584
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>>38673584
I wrote 50+ articles on TVTropes.

>>38673595
Or maybe that is false dichotomy and truth is somewhere inbetween?

The massive push to make people realize that some tropes are bad because they don't agree with the current brand of the leftist circlejerk goes against everything the site is about.

And I don't just mean my soggy knees.
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>>38671612
I don't remember. Might have been Carpe Jugulum or Men at Arms.
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>>38673627
I still haven't read my copy. Mainly for fear that it would be his last book.
And now it's just sitting there on the shelf looking at me.

I haven't read Titus Alone or The Deathly Hallows for similar reasons. Bah humbug.
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>>38673595

Really? Personally I far prefer browsing /pol/ to Tumblr. Maybe this is because personally I'm pretty solidly in the leftist camp and jesus fuck the worst thing in the world (far worse that just finding someone's opinions to be vile) is watching someone hold the same opinions as you and yet be such a pretentious, dismissive, cliquey, needlessly confrontational, points-scoring self-righteous *fuck* that you wish you disagreed.
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>>38671612

The colour of Magic was my first book, but I completely agree with Esk, one of my favourite discworld characters. I always hoped Sir Terry would go back to her.
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>>38673677
This. Tumblr's approval fills me with shame.
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>>38673586
>Lots of Reddit is a righty circle-jerk, and it's no better.
What are you talking about, sorry?

It has the biggest anti-ultraleft community on the internet and according to polls that community is overwhelmingly left-leaning.
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>>38673595
Except lots of /pol/ doesn't actually believe what they're saying. I've got a black friend who regularly shitposts on /pol/ about niggers. It's also just fun to bait other socialists like me.

Also, what >>38673677 said. At least it's what convinced me to be (ultra) libertarian left.

>>38673699
/r/redpill and all.
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>>38673677
Yeah, that can be crap.
And pretty much every political view has this - I'd imagine conservatives (in a general sense) feel the same about the militant right wingers as we do about the tumblrtards
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>>38673725
>/r/redpill and all.
Redpill is universally despised on reddit by everyone who does not regularly post there. It's not a subreddit you want to have in your immediate post history if you want people to take you seriously.
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>>38673732
At least most SJWs are liberal. I'm socialist, so I can imagine we don't have chucklefucks. Sadly, we very definitely do.

>>38673787
Oh, and how is that relevant exactly? Is it not a conservative circle jerk, and is it not on reddit? It's also a pretty popular sub.
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>friends love this guy
>I only heard of him a couple times
>I'm forever DM
>they want me to do a discworld one shot
Can someone explain to me the setting for this? I don't wanna make it my own bullshit and make my players feel like I disrespected him.
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>>38672458
>ordering books from ebay
Libraris, man. That's how I read most Discworld stuff, prowling every library in a twenty mile radius.
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>>38673845
Read the books. Don't do it if you haven't read the books.

If it helps, though, there's a GURPS module.
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>>38673860
I heard there was 40 of them, so I feel like I'll be able to one shot way after his funeral
Anything about the setting?
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>>38673859

I have exactly one library withing 20 miles of me.

It has 3 (three) Pratchett books, all of which are witch books.

They can and will draw books in from anywhere in the state free of charge, though.
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>>38673859
Yeah that's how I've read all the ones i have (except the one I own) but I wanted to own this one.
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>>38673822
>Is it not a conservative circle jerk
I can't say it's a conservative circle jerk per se. Maybe socially conservative in a sense. It's ultra-antifeminism. Basically their beliefs are identical to that of radical feminists, (the patriarchy etc) except redpillers want it to stay but radfems want it to go.

>It's also a pretty popular sub.
Popular and very highly derided.

There's a subreddit for rage comics that's 6 times as large as redpill. Posting rage comics or even defending rage comics in any other place will result in an instant ban.

Hell, SRS is 2/3 the size of redpill.

Reddit is a series of communities, some of which are very highly insular and do not bleed over into each other.
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>>38673877
Stories are Important.
If at some point your players realise they are "acting out" a story that's somewhere between great and fine

Magic exists, and is used to break the laws of nature, but it generally isn't all that powerful, and "realness" has a power all of its own.
Energy conservation is often used for things working/not working

Death is a part of every story (well, almost). Magic-users and cats can see him

Find, use, subvert and then un-subvert fantasy cliches
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>>38657966
Scotland. My uncle gave me his copy of The Light Fantastic, signed by pterry in his will when i was like six because he heard I liked fantasy and thought it might cheer me up.
now pterry is dead too. allegations that the book is cursed are unfounded.
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>>38673954
Whoa that's a lot of stuff
To what extent can magic fuck reality?
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>>38673877
Well, you don't need to read all of them. They're largely self-contained. But I'd say having read one is pretty much a prerequisite if you want to get a feel of the thing.
As for the setting, it's really diverse. The whole thing started out as a pretty straightforward parody of the sword&sorcery genre, but he's taken on all kinds of other topics over the course of, what, more than thirty years?
You could have a look at this, see if anything interests you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#Storylines
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>>38673877
Don't literally read all of them, read two at least and then look at the wiki if you really want to. It's best to get someone who's a fan to DM instead, though.

>>38673906
You're doing what a lot of people on 4chan do for no real reason, which is arguing in an argument that doesn't exist. I don't care if it's derided, /r/theredpill is popular, a conservative circle-jerk, and on Reddit. That is my point, nothing more. Well, that and it's shit.

Their beliefs may be stated as only ultra anti feminism (not like tumblrinaction, but actually anything like feminism) but this is, as you'd expect, tied up with ultra conservatism. So they circle jerk about liberals etc.
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>>38672667
You read about the Watch to understand family and duty, Moist to understand redemption persaverance and cunning, The Witches for wisdom, and common sense and you read about Death to understand the truth of things.
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>>38674038
The Watch is for classism and racism, Moist is for bad capitalism (monopolies) vs good capitalism (innovation, competition). The Witches is for general community stuff. Death is for ethics and morals in general, and both the Witches and Death deals with stories as a concept necessary for humanity.
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>>38673982
Well you can turn people into a frog, but most of the time you're then left with the question of what to do with the other 95% of their mass.

Use of magic in battle is used as an allegory for nuclear war.
Old magic battlefields tend to be places where the grass doesn't grow, but there was a lot more magic in the Disc's background field when they happened.

These days a wizard, unless he's really going for it (which no-one wants) will be lucky to do a vancian fireball. Maybe two if they're well rested and well fed (energy has to come from somewhere)

Magic users do tend to be good with mind games though.
And getting stuff for free.
Partly because you don't mess with someone who can turn you into a frog.
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>>38674070
Witches stories are mostly about the philosophy of thought, logic and "cognitive science" (?).
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>>38649163
Literally whatever, he was post-70 and died in the lap of luxury with the best care money can afford.
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>>38674277
>post-70
66
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>>38674277
>he was post-70
Fuck you, just fuck you.

66 Isn't even old here any more
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>>38674287
Beat me to it
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>>38674277
He was 66 and you misused the word literally.
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>>38670979
it has to be on August 8th
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>>38674366
Why August 8th?

It's my birthday though
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>>38674389
which month of the year is august?
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I don't really know how to feel right now. I'm not crying, I'm not even really miserable. The weather here isn't stormy, with lashing rain and crashing thunder; the sky is bright grey and there's been a light drizzle all morning, and I think I feel the same way. Terry Pratchett has been such a huge part of my life - I wouldn't be the same person I am now if I hadn't read his books. They were truly magical, for reasons others have already put much more eloquently, and it's a damn bloody tragedy that there won't be any more. But even through all that I can't cry, all I can do is sigh heavily. Everyone mourns in their own way I suppose... Perhaps it's because he died so well, all things considered, which is rare in a world without Narrative Causality. Or perhaps it's because of what I learned from the Discworld - that the world moves on anyway, and it isn't fair, and it doesn't care, and it's still going to be beautiful tomorrow whether it rains today or not. Funnily enough, as I'm writing this, I am welling up a little. There's definitely a lump in my throat. It's... This is how it goes, I guess. I'll sigh for a bit, and then keep on living, and be happy that such a marvellous person existed and affected me the way he did.

Thank you, Sir Terry Pratchett

And thanks /tg/, for giving me a place to say this.
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>>38674366
Yep
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>>38669806
>"Man's not dead while his name is still spoken."
GNU Terry Pratchett, then.
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>>38674674
It's amazing how many people have posted almost the exact same thing, and how many more are leaving it unsaid. So many people owe their worldview to Pratchett that it's almost absurd.
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>>38670979
There's been one for a few years - May 25th, as in Night Watch. Wear the Lilac for Alzheimer's research.
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>>38652577
> rincewind books weak
> watch, death, witches awesome
> small gods best

How can someone have such correct opinions as these? It's as if that post was from me?
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Dead faggot.
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>>38671612
Hogfather. Good choice, I think, and then I came back from holiday and read the whole shelf of Pratchett books in the school library.

They could get away with one shelf of books on display because most of the stock was on loan at any one time.
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>>38663716
The research is only in mice, but it's so promising (and a highly portable/stable approach compared to most treatments since it's not dependent on the your metabolic chemistry) they're already starting to look towards human research (they're only moving to studying alzheimers in sheep with this procedure, but cranial ultrasound is already moving towards human trials for unrelated issues in Israel so if these studies and the animal alzheimers studies look even slightly good I expect some group will look for volunteers to accelerate human research. Collateral damage incurred due to ultrasound acting on the plaques seems highly unlikely just from the similar cell durability between mice and humans). It doesn't just arrest the disease, it reverses the damage, and the posterior cortical atrophy Pratchett had only affects active function (working memory, object recognition etc.) rather than damaging your personal long-term memories, so the individual would remain fully recoverable for far longer.
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>>38674855
>common opinions are common and correct
>what is a correct opinion if not one that reflects your own beliefs, but is held by someone else?
>common opinion is common. come on!
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>>38671837
I really enjoy those books. I started Discworld with Hogfather, but before that I read... Only You Can Save Mankind (and didn't get the Sigourney Weaver jokes, because kid), the Bromeliad (amazing), Strata and the Dark Side of the Sun.

Strata made reading Discworld slightly weird, but I recommend it to anyone - it's heavily Ringworld-inspired. The Dark Side of the Sun was more Asimov than Niven, but still really good. More Discworld fans should branch out, there, his other stuff is great.
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>>38672611
But he wrote a lot of Young Adult fiction as well - clearly YA, not just "well it has dragons that's for babies right." Honestly, once you look beyond the most popular stuff there's a lot of interesting writing going on in YA.
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>>38672700
He's dead now. They'll come around once he's rotted a bit, that type always do.
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>>38674366
I wonder what happened on August the eighth 888 ACE.
>>38675021
It's possible, but probably not likely.
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>>38675003
What YA novels?
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>>38674366
Not sure. The first books Pratchett would be on that day with that number, sure. The recent books Pratchett, on 25th May, with lilacs.
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>>38674978
>tfw my discworld companion was printed in 2000

Maybe I should get a new one at some point.
I didn't realise The Fifth Elephant was that old.
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>>38674855

Great minds think alike, chum!

>>38674941

And poor minds think the popularity of an opinion has an effect on its rightness!
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>>38674978

Who's the dude on the left?
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>>38675266
Nobby Nobbs.
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>>38675314
I meant above him, leaning further out.
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>>38675352
Vetinari.
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>>38675403
I don't think so. Vetinari has to be the one above that one.
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>>38657966
Lithuanian. Read most of Discworld, preferred the original versions, and I'm not even sure translations exist.
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>>38675476
Wait, are you talking about the guy in the middle, a bit towards the left, next to Death? Not a clue.
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>>38657966
Spain. And its pretty loved here in /tg/ related and fantasy readers circles.
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>>38674588
WHATEVER YOU DO, DONT SAY EIGHT!
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>>38675532
WHY DID YOU SAID EIGHT?
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>>38657966

Brazil reporting in. It's pretty much unknown, because there haven't been any translations that I have seen and the jokes probably wouldn't translate well either, but I absolutely loved them
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>>38670979
>What do we do to honour Terry Pratchett?
Capslock and try to talk like death for a day.

Or we make dwarf bread.
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>>38675545
I'm fairly certain they have Pratchett in Portugal, m8.
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>>38675352

My guess is that it's either Cosmo Lavish from Making money, or Edward d'Eath from Men At Arms
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I really hope that when he died Death was there to greet him.

"HELLO THERE MR. PRATTCHET. IT IS GOOD TO FINALLY MEET YOU."
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>>38675568

Wrong side of the ocean, anon.

European portuguese and brazilian portuguese are different, too
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>>38675589
They are? I thought it was like Mexican Spanish vs Spanish Spanish, or US English vs British English.
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>>38675542
I've got to get a picture of this!
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>>38675494
isn't that one of the 'city' Igors?
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I already knew this was bound to happen, but I'm still horribly sad.

I'm sorry you had to go so soon, Terry. We'll miss you.

We'll miss you until the end of time.
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>>38675613
Nah. it got a little closer, but there are just too many little differences. What they call a line we call a faggot, and so on
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>>38674978
I don't know...

After all there's one left to be published.
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>>38675644
The scars are a giveaway.
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Has anybody here played the Discworld board games? I played The Witches once - it's basically Pandemic: Discworld Edition - and Ankh-Morpork is the only board game in my collection that my dad will play with me, and he's not even a big Discworld fan.

He laughed at me when I pronounced Mr Teatime's name properly
>>38657687
Honestly, /co/'s still reeling from the fact that Frank could die; we've had a few threads over the past few months where most /co/mrades seem genuinely sad over the fact that he's dying from (presumably inoperable) cancer, preferring to remember him as he was, as opposed to the far-right fruit loop he became.
>>38657922
He could be in Shinto heaven; you don't have to believe in Shinto to get there.
>>38661733
>UMM... EXCUSE ME, MISS? COULD I HAVE THAT BACK, PLEASE?
>>38666158
Oh, he'll take it very badly. Hell, pretty much every British comic book writer and artist will... I don't want to imagine how Dave Gibbons will feel.
>>38670979
Hold board games events and only play games based on the Discworld?
>>38671681
>Mine was the colour of magic
Same. I'm one of those "starting at the beginning makes the most sense" people.
>>38672611
>>38672659
The only YA series I enjoy are Edge Chronicles and Chronicles of Prydain
>>38673845
Audiobooks are your friend.
>>38675546
>make dwarf bread
I once got punched in the face, does that count?
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>>38675613
C'mon, Im spaniard and with my english I can understand US and UK english. But I cant figure out half of the time what the fuck are saying there in south america. In some places, at least.
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>>38675811
My family plays the Ankh Morpork game every christmas. I think it's the only board game in the house that's had enough play to justify the price.
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>>38675874
I guess it's like English and Scottish English, then.
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>>38675874
Maybe it's more like an American trying to understand a Scot with a broad accent - nominally the same language, in practice very hard to understand
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>>38675935
>>38675978

Can you guys understand this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LyFMCIpok

Because if you hear roughly the same as I do, then yes, I do think that's a good aproximation

Change a few words to mean something completely unrelated where you are from and then you've got it
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>>38675978
Sounds right, actually.
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>>38675998
I only understood about half of that.
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>>38675811
Catholics believe that good non-Christians go to a sort of heaven. As in, what everyone thinks of as heaven- a paradise of plenty and leisure.

Atheists, though, I think get special hell or something. That might be outdated now, though.

>>38675998
Yeah, I can understand it, but Scottish English gets a lot weirder than that. A lot more like if English had developed without as much French. Still understandable, but you have to take your time reading it and you have to say it out loud, too. Some of the words don't make sense even then.
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>>38676020
>>38676035

And this is why the copies from portugal aren't good for me

Truth to be told since I already have six books in english I'd rather have the whole collection in english too.

By the way, I have the full black covers with a drawn picture in the frong. Anyone can tell me how they hold up to the other covers?
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Question to y'all reading 'em in english/second languages; are punes, or a play on words hard to process in a non-primary language? Are the translations so bad that that's still better?

Monolingual scum here, trying to wrap my head around it.
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>>38676035
The perception of heaven as a literal paradise is probably the worst representation possible. Heaven is more like a spiritual ascension, more to do how close you are to God, and closeness to God isn't necessarily represented by how much you believe.

I'll not claim I know where Terry's soul has made it, but I'd imagine such a man would be closer to God than not, no matter his theological leanings.
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>>38674674
>>38674805

I like to believe it's easier for me to try to be a better person because of him.

What was it in The Last Hero? The world goes on? Come on, /tg/. We got living and dreaming to do.

Mr. Pratchett? I know you're up there. Thank you.
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>>38676087
Puns and wordplay almost never work right over translations. At best, the translators move stuff around to make a similar-ish pun, at worst, they go for direct translation and it makes no sense as a pun whatsoever.
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>>38675998
About 1/2~3/4, assuming they're all valid words.

So yeah, assuming EuroPortuguese and BrazilPortuguese have a similar relationship I'd see why translation would be needed.

Amusingly the British Civil Service's welfare department has at least one of its call centres in Aberdeen, presumably to troll people
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>>38660500
>mfw the majority of /lit/ praises The Hunger Games as a modern classic
>mfw a majority of /lit/ is confused or bored by the symbolism and humor in The Phantom Tollbooth
>mfw /lit/ meetup pictures have multitudes of unironic fedoras
>mfw athiest v. christian debates are more common on /lit/ than /b/, /sci/ and /mlp/ combined

That board sometimes.
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>>38676087
It varies
I know a couple of people have said that puns got carried over (a Russian translator made sure Nobby still sounded like penis) but at other times (Swedish, in for Imp y Celyn/Buddy Holly) they just stopped and used a footnote to go "I give up, I can't translate this, I'll just explain the joke".
The Russian one called him Dion Celyn instead.
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>>38676145

The only translation I've ever seen do it right is the British English releases of Asterix, where the puns are simply superb.

I've heard the American English releases are abominations, though
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>>38676217
>mfw the majority of /lit/ praises The Hunger Games as a modern classic
You're fooling me, right ?
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>>38676217

>>mfw the majority of /lit/ praises The Hunger Games as a modern classic

No way that's true.
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>>38676228
It seems odd to me that you get British and American versions of the same book. It's the exact same language; why not just make a universal English version and release it on both sides of the pond?
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>>38676217
Has there ever been a /tg/ meetup?
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>>38676240
>>38676243
It's advanced shitposting.

You take something popular that normal people are beginning to dislike or rag on and you praise it as fine art.

It's done simply to be contrary to make them special pretty little princesses.
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>>38676228
As an American, British English is easy to understand. The only real problem is that they use some words that just don't exist in American English. But once I got my head around those words and how they use them, there were no other problems.
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>>38676217

Bullshit.
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>>38676267
British and American English both have unique words that don't get used on the other side of the pond.
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>>38676267
There's a reason why there's an English(UK) and English(US) setting in every computer.
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Should this thread get archived?
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>>38676267
>>38676275

In cases of translating into English, there are different publishers each side of the pond, who sometimes commission different translations, because it's cheaper than using an already made translation, for whatever reason, or because the first English publisher is trying to shop it in the other market, which I think is what happened here, since the British versions are actually available in the US
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>>38676135
heretic
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>>38676374
Wait, shit, really? So I might not have actually read what he wrote?
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>>38676453

No, that's pretty much how things work for the Catholic Church. Since that's the only true religion and everything else doesn't matter, that's just the way things are.
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>>38657922
>>38658039
>>38658461
>>38675811
>>38676035
>>38676135
I'm a Baptist. We believe that all you must do it accept Jesus Christ into your heart as your Lord and Savior, admit you're a sinner, and believe He died on the Cross for you. Then you're saved.
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>>38676501
In the catholic tradition, as long as you're baptized catholic, you will always be catholic unless you renounce the church or something, but you can go become a baptist and they'll still let you back in for communion, which is for Catholics only.
Catholicism is weird. But then, so is every other religion.
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>>38671612
I don't remember if it was The Wee Free Men or Going Postal, strangely enough.
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>>38676482

That was a discussion sprouted off of the translation of puns into other languages, specifically that the British English translation of French comic Asterix kept the puns far better than that US translation, and the British translations became available in the US
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>>38676542
People are weird. I have my doubts that I am saved, act in a way that the Lord disapproves of, and I probably need to go back to church but as I've been told, that's the devil messing with me. I can not say where TP will spend all of eternity but hopefully he'll get judged favorably. Why can't we just put the souls of great authors in a glass guitar that contains a realm for their souls to mingle?
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>>38657966
>Poland here
I can tell you that Polish translation is of a highest quality as the guy who translated them is a real Pratchett fan.
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>>38668109
I think that was Wintersmith, actually.
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>>38671612
Carpe Jugulum, which was funny and good, but stuff like the Casanuda cameo didn't make sense at the time. The I read Sourcery and the ride never ended.
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>>38676604
If there is a god, and he hasn't sent Pratchett to a rather decent place, then once I croak I'll be spending the rest of eternity jackhammering the divine testicles, no euphemisms involved.
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>>38676677
The Lord works in mysterious ways, Anon. He might surprise us.
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>>38676698

As Terry might say, "a god who works in ways so mysterious as to be no different from not working at all is a bit of a berk."
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>>38676738
Didn't know that. Maybe the Lord wants to keep things interesting and likes to surprise people. And a berk?
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So I talked to my grandma, who really likes fantasy and science fiction books (in this regard, she's the member of my family most like me) about Pratchett and she decided she's interested. I want to give her a book to start with but I'm not sure which to choose. The problem is that, being my grandma, she hasn't really read anything from the last thirty years or so (Except The Sandman, because of all the classical literature and folklore references), and she has the sensibilities of a very Ashkenazi 80 years old woman. I don't want to choose something like "The Color of Magic" because she wouldn't get most of it and the jokes might be a little too crass. I want to hook her up with Pratchett.

Which should I choose?
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>>38676500
No, it doesnt work that way. It is known how some wounded spanish soldiers didnt ask for medics to heal them, but priests to confess, wich resets your sin account to zero, and then die and go to heaven. And as fucking everyhting was a deadly sin, if you didnt get that you'll probably would go to hell which was pretty scary for them. I'm pretty sure Terry has sinned and didnt confess afterwards, so, there you go. Thanks "god" its bullshit.
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>>38676817
It should be said that its not enough to just confess. You have truly be sorry for your sins
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>>38676759
After all, he did let something like the platypus sldie, so he's got to have some kind of a sense of humor
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>>38676809

Wyrd Sisters? She knows shakespeare, right?
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>>38676817

>The perception of heaven as a literal paradise is probably the worst representation possible. Heaven is more like a spiritual ascension

I meant this part: Heaven is not a place with happy people playing the harp, but perfect harmony in the presence of God.
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>>38676846
But it's enough not to confess to get thrown into hell for eternity.
Unless your family pays for your soul to get it out of there. Satan needs that money, you know?
Admit it, it's bullshit.
Also, it's not a place to discuss religion.
I must say Terry changed my outlook on this matter.
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>>38676846
Plus that.
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>>38676846
>You have truly be sorry
Reminded me of the Potato Church and now I'm sad again.

Pratchett really had a way with world building
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>>38676874
Yes, I agree it should probably be one of the witch books. You think that might do? She loves Shakespeare.
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>>38676698
Either God himself doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, or that fruit of wisdom was a fucking ripoff.
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>>38676809
anything with Nanny Ogg
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>>38676759
>berk
Mild insult, meaning idiot, prat, etc.

The origins aren't so mild
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>>38676809
Mort. Always Mort.
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>>38676809
>>38676874
>>38676898
>>38676902
Although... that brings up the question of whether the book really makes a good introduction to the Discworld. If you read it and liked it, would that mean you should like the other books? In that sense, it's very much not like The Color of Magic, is it?
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>>38676888

Indulgences are not a thing anymore, and no, you can get to Heaven even without confessing: people who want to confess on their death bed are people who think they have some very big shit to atone for.
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>>38676869
I have always considered that proof that God has a sense of humor. As for things that science will never explain, I think he did that to mess with scientists.
>>38676901
Might the fruit of wisdom was a prototype. It must have had bugs in it.
>>38676908
Thank you.
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>>38676898

I think it's a good one. I haven't managed to read anything BEYOND Wyrd Sisters, because fuck how high the dollar is right now and importing is a bitch, but I absolutely loved it. I think she will, too
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>>38676924
They actually are, but they're free now. It's basically just a priest praying with you for the soul of a dead person.
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>>38652969
This passage has always bothered me: you could say the same thing about "red" or "cats", lots of things that aren't properties of molecules can be properties of big complicated lumps of them.
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>>38676759
It has multiple meanings
1) a minor insult
2) cockney rhyming slang insult - Berkshire Hunt.
3) person who refuses not to open the trap door.
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>>38676924
Yes, because they have felt, I dont know, envy. WOW, THEY ARE REALLY HITLER.
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>>38676087
I guess that depends on how familiar with English you are. I began to learn it when I was but a toddler, and spent a decent part of my adolescence growing used to it by watching subbed movies and series, so puns hardly ever manage to pass by me nowadays. Someone with a more cursory knowledge might not be so keen on detecting them.

As for translations, that depends a lot on the language (if it allows for a similar wordplay with current expressions/regionalisms) and the translator's own will in keeping up with the original semantics when the language allows him to do so.

I am one of the Brazilian dudes, and one of my books I just can't bring myself to read again is my translated version of Gaiman's Smoke and Mirrors: Short Stories and Reflections. Why? Because so little effort was put into it that, as a somewhat seasoned English reader, I can see points in the stories where the translator clearly went and merely did a literal translation of various expressions that make no sense at all in Brazilian Portuguese.

I wish I had the book here with me so I could post some examples.
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>>38676901
Was it a fruit of ALL wisdom, or just enough wisdom that it sets the difficulty up a level?
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>>38676924
You mean the trade of indulgences, right? Because indulgences themselves are still a thing.
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>>38676924
According to the pope you can confess and convert after death, too.
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>>38676959

You're still probably not going to be able to cook justice in your kitchen though.

....Now that I think about it, would that work for a book?
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>>38676959
For the first time I think I can call someone autist.
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>>38676896
I'm -ing sad, too
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Here's to hoping that one of the events in the Watch tv series is Carrot and Angua's wedding. IIRC, he'd outright stated that it was about time for them to finally tie the knot, and just hadn't gotten to writing it yet.
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>>38671612
colour of magic, when I was 10, i had been handed a plastic bag of books by a friend of my mothers who was clearing house and knew I was a avid reader, the bag turned out to contain the entire discworld novels in paperback up until that point in time (interesting times was the latest at that point) didnt know then about the different subseries of the books so just started at the start took me a month and a half to finish them and have been hooked since
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>>38676980

Which other books had shit translation, fellow huelander? I got Lugar Nenhum but never read the english version so I don't know if it is bad or not, since it's been a long time
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>>38676924
Then why can you buy a mass in intention? Why each year I get a slip of paper by post where I can write a name of deceased and give it to a priest (with a small sum of money) to be read during a holiday mass?
Also, heavy sins include not confessing during Easter period.
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>>38676955
>>38676982

Yeah, I meant the trade, not the concept itself.

>>38676975

I'm sorry, I thought you were willing to put more effort in your bait.
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>>38677008
since they'd have werewolf/human hybrid babies, it sounds like they would need a pretty experienced midwife.
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>>38676965
I'm learning more on /tg/. I like it.
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>>38653899
The thing that always bothered me about this stupid bullshit is that lies hurt just as much, if not more so.
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Did you know that in the Hebrew translation, Rincewind's Luggage is said to be made (instead of Sapient Pearwood) of the Tree of Knowledge? As in the one from the Garden of Eden?
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>>38677071

Damn, I need to find that shop.
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>>38677023

>Then why can you buy a mass in intention? Why each year I get a slip of paper by post where I can write a name of deceased and give it to a priest (with a small sum of money) to be read during a holiday mass?

Because all the charities the Church runs need money to operate? Feeding the homeless and healing the sick is not something you can do without funds, and the only thing a church has to offer is prayers: you give them money and they'll pray for your loved ones, but there's no assurance that'll do anything for them.

>Also, heavy sins include not confessing during Easter period.

No, it doesn't.
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>>38676965
>refuses not to open the trap door.
I'm intrigued

>>38676959
Yes, but unless you're referring to a person with the title justice (Justice Blogs) then you won't find justice existing physically on any level, tiny or huge.
You can get Red, which is how we see light with a wavelength ~700nm and a Cat which is macromolecular thing, but justice can't be found on a big or small level
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>>38677052
Nanny Ogg, duh
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>>38677071
Oh wow, that's actually really cool. How's the rest of the translation?
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On May 25th, someone who lives near Sir Terry's eventual grave site (wherever that might be) should leave two things there: a sprig of lilac, and a potato.
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>>38677113
that was kind of the point.
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>>38677102
I'm afraid that shop is one you have to wander into randomly, and it's only in any given place for a few days tops.
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That's so sad :(

But I'm glad he seemed to retain much more of his mind in the last years than what people expected. It seems like a fate worse than death to lose your mind.
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>>38677150

I recall that, but a man can dream.

I haven't read Light Fantastic in a while now, does that mean that I can never LOOK for it or even if I do it'll be completely up to chance?
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>>38677115
Depends on which book you pick. Several of the earlier books were translated into Hebrew at roughly the same time many, many years ago, and their translation tends to sound odd to some Hebrew speakers since it tries to remain very loyal to the source (leading to phrases which might not always make sense to them, like "Unseen University", which, as translated literally, came out "The University Which Appears and Disappears"), then for a long while none were, then a whole bunch of the newer ones were translated more recently with more thought put into it (oddly, the thing about the Tree of Knowledge was actually from the old translation, possibly because "Pearwood" is a very inelegant term in Hebrew - grammar issues). Some like the older ones better (they have more "charm", natch), others like the new ones.
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>>38677175
They're fairly common on the Counterweight Continent, but there's so many difficulties with trade.

At least their Emperor (and former Vizier) is a pretty cool guy
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>>38677175
The latter, I think.

If you find a place where the bookshops seem a bit larger on the inside than the outside, you may be getting close. Just watch out for thesauruses.
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>>38677120
Potato or an egg?
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>>38677275
because it was real
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>>38650037
Hear hear.

There's no named coaches, is there? Sir T. Pratchett, esq., OBE, dec.?
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Off topic, but something I want people's opinion on while I'm here. Which is worse, /lit/ or /mu/?
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>>38677350
Maybe DEATH.
He could even carry a scythe and a trashbag, for referencing two /tg/ characters at once.
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>>38677305
Potato.

They'd probably frown on bringing the set-up necessary to do a proper runny egg with toast soldiers to a graveyard, I'm afraid.
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>>38677389

Though choice, mate.

Since I don't care about music, I would personally say /lit/.
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>>38677389
/lit/
/mu/ at least knows that its tastes are subjective.
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>>38677389
/lit/ by far, holy shit.

you can have interesting discussion on a very wide variety of music on /mu/ as well as use it to broaden your tastes.
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>>38677389
/lit/; /mu/ knows who they are.
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>>38677467
I just browsed lit for the first time, I found a few posts that looked like they were made by normal people, and then...I kept reading...and they made less and less sense...and people I thought were normal were no longer, and then I realized lit was just as bad as people said it was.
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>>38677389
Depends. Do /mu/ hate David Bowie?
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>>38677019

Neverwhere was quite well translated. I first read the Vertigo comic in Portuguese, then watched the BBC series and read the original book in English, and came full circle when I got the translated book as a birthday gift. Going through that little cycle of insanity, I can honestly say it was a job well done.

Since I'm not at home and don't have access to the books right now, I can only remember another badly translated book: Absolute Sandman Volume 1 (and, I suspect, the other volumes too), printed by Panini Books.

Between small, subjective aesthetic changes that piss me off* and the plain idiocy of doing literal translations**, they managed to mangle the story pretty well for me.

* Changing Morpheus to Morfeus, for one. ***

** For instance, Fiddler's Green had its name translated to Verde do Violinista. To you non-huespeakers, "verde" is the colour green; but, while to you it may also mean "grassy ground or field", to us it's nothing but a colour. Also, our culture never had something like that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s_Green), so we can't even say "oh it's that old wives tale grandma used to tell us when she got nostalgic". ***

*** A humble homage to the God of Footnotes
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>>38677577

I have that Ultimate Sandman, but I never thought it was that bad. Morfeus IS the portuguese name of Morpheus. I mean, you don't see people down here writing Aphrodite, do you? It's Afrodite

The Fiddler's Green kinda went over my head though, alright
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>>38677467
Another thing, what defines "genre fiction". Can't all fiction be placed into genres if you try hard enough?

And is there a board worse than /lit/ then?
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>>38677191
>leading to phrases which might not always make sense to them, like "Unseen University", which, as translated literally, came out "The University Which Appears and Disappears"

Well, their motto IS "Now you see it, now you don't".
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>>38649163
...fuck.

Godspeed, wherever you are, you glorious motherfucker.
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>>38677619

I don't think so, no: if I had to pick between them, I'd rather keep /pol/ than /lit/.
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>>38677619
I bet one of the weird little boards that barely anyone goes to is worse.
But nobody knows it because the handful of people who actually go there exist in their own little terrible world.
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>>38677619
Anything they don't like, or anything that we might like.
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>>38677619
/s4s/ probably takes it.
/lit/ is at least vaguely coherent
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>>38677681
Not really, the origami board is pretty chill.
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>>38677664
I don't. At least /lit/ contains succesfully those retards.
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>>38677691

Even /s4s/ is less poisonously ironic than /lit/
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>>38677745
If we nuked pol, then they would be even less contained, and probably splurge all over the boards making things worse than they are now.
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>>38677619
it follows a genre, and genre conventions.
you already know the characters and the plot before you read it.
characterization is often weak, plot is often heavy, think 'action movie'.
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>>38677691
Hey now, s4s is at least entertaining to look at in a 'My god, it's full of dank' kind of way.
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>>38676759
maybe god simply cannot be distinguished from entropy, and therefore does not exist as you think.
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>>38677794
I sure as hell didn't know what was going to happen at the end of the light fantastic.
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>>38677767
I was speaking about my preferences, not actual measures about them. In the latter, you are right.
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>>38677814
that's not really genre fiction, no matter how hard /lit/ screams.
there are probably many books you already knew where they were going, from the first chapters (basic examples: romance novels, horror stories) - those represent genre fiction in all its glory.
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>>38677528
Not usually
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>>38677745
>At least /lit/ contains succesfully those retards.
I think if /lit/ gets offed they will fuck off 4chan entirely.
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>>38677906

Doesn't the presence of plot twists kinda make genre fiction harder to name?
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>>38677618
Well, about the Morpheus/Morfeus thing, I admitted that it was a "small, subjective aesthetic changes that piss me off".

Also, in the Conrad books, the translator had no such stylistic problem, keeping Orpheus' and Morpheus' names as originally written, so I'm not the only one who thought there was some beauty in not substituting the "ph"s for "f"s.
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>>38677619
Genre Fiction is one of those terms that don't make sense unless paired with its implied opposite.

Genre fiction is generally safe and derivative. It's seen as a contrast to Literary Fiction which is generally experimental and original, or at the very least has elements of aspiring to be more than simply a rehash of whatever is known to be successful.
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>>38677946
there's still the shitty characterization, the lack of theme, and in a way the unexpected 'what a twist!' itself is a sign.
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>>38677997
That is a false dichotomy.

Genre fiction is fiction that belongs to a genre. Literary fiction has literary merit.

Two-bit intellectuals jump through hoops to prove that this is indeed an either-or.
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>>38678033

So basically, genre fiction is just shitty fiction? Eragon comes to mind, although I did enjoy it when I was younger. What exactly do you mean by "lack of theme", though?
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>>38678033
anna karenina jumping under the train is actually "what a twist!", you just don't realize it because it's commonly known
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>>38677811
I don't believe that. That's a theory, and to me, just a theory.
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Last book should have been a Rincewind book.
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>>38678082
Best example I can think of for that (not a book, admittedly, but still)?

It's A Wonderful Life.

Sure, everybody knows what's going on now, but the first audience to ever watch it must have gotten halfway into the movie and gone "what the fuck" as it suddenly switched genres.

It was the From Dusk Till Dawn of its time.
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>>38678068
>lack of theme
there's no analysis of something, but just, or mostly, plot.
like in a romance novel, there's no deep analysis of the male vs female conflict, there's just the conflict, and it goes exactly like the reader expects it to go.
once you close the book, you aren't 'enrichened', it was just a way to pass the time.
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>>38661534
>being a shill to the system is the only productive thing in life
I really miss going on old /pol/ and arguing with ancaps
I will do my best to never hold a socially respectable job in my life.
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>>38654711
>most of the second verse being "nur"s.
EXCELLENT.
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>>38678260

I see, that makes a lot of sense actually

An "analysis" can come in any way, can't it? The character monologuing to himself or anything? Is ti really possible to have a novel in which the characters don't even think about what they are doing?

Or is it a case of "It doesn't count if it's there for two pages only and leads to nothing"? I wouldn't complain if that was the case
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>>38655046
I'm kinda upset that they didn't cast Tony Robinson as Nobby. Because holy shit, Nobby is basically slightly smarter Baldrick.
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Why was Monstrous Regiment so unpleasant?
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>>38677800
>my god, it's full of dank
I'm saving that for later use
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"And in the next chapter, we go back to Ankh-Morpork, where... hey are you typing? What are you so upset about?"
"HELLO."
"Oh."
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>>38678407
Didn't mean to spoiler that, but seems fitting, considering the feels.
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>>38678334
if it's there for 2 pages and goes nowhere, it's even worse, it's a case of false depth, and a writer that didn't want to be 'just an other genre fiction writer'.
it's absolutely possible to have that sort of depth without introspecting and monologuing, show it with actions and character interaction instead! it's harder, but it's what makes fiction worth it. it often happens this way in the Discworld, btw.
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>>38678463

I'm a dumb fuck who has trouble noticing these things, but it comes to mind the part in Wyrd Sisters where the witches are saying things about how every witch would be known as green skinned crones, because the play was making people believe it.

Is that quite it? Got any others?
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>>38678406

"Hah. Up yours, Neil."

"I AM AFRAID THAT MISS ME IS ALSO PRESENT"

"He doesn't need to know that."
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>>38649630
oh god, this got me right in the feels.

It seems like such a happy song, why do men cry when they sing it?

we remember who's not there to sing it with us
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It's eerie how many Death quotes there are not that feel appropriate, or how often Pratchett talked about death.
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>>38678548
the fiat money vs gold standard thing in Making Money, it's explained by the interaction of characters... could have been a bad monologue instead.
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>>38678406
>>38678620
fuck
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>>38678662
Death is everywhere, in every story (and every book bar, like two).
It's a part of life, and he never forgot that, or wanted his readers to forget it.
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>>38677811
And perhaps there is no gravity, just an unnamed force with identical properties.
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>>38649163
FFFFFF
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>>38676135
Catholic philosophers generally agree only Christians can reach God and Christ- that's the whole point of Christianity existing. However, people who've never heard of Christianity, or had no real chance of being Christians (e.g. Muslims in Afghanistan) or who lived good lives despite being unbelievers (e.g. Saladin), get rewarded in the best way possible other than being with God. I know nothing about Orthodoxy, and obviously you can't argue what Protestantism thinks.

>>38676228
I fuckin' loved those. I always felt a bit useless, though, 'cause my dad read them in the original French. Hipster.

>>38676268
Yeah. MTG tournaments, cons, any FLGS ever...

>>38676356
Yeah, but come on, they're as alike as Yorkshire is to South-East, only with spelling changes to show this rather than using the same language.

>>38676368
>I've never heard of archive.moe/tg/

>>38676809
>Ashkenazi Grandmother
Mein Jude. Although she's also (British) Indian.

>>38676896
Mr. Tulip was the best character, no doubt. Best book, too (with Jingo).

>>38677222
What books involve the Agatean Empire?

>>38677767
/pol/ *was* nuked, and it went over to what had been a better site. Still is better in many ways, but /pol/'s influence fucks it up a lot.

>>38677906
Yep. Pratchett is not a genre fiction author, or (as I think of it) literary fiction = arthouse shit pretentious idiots like to read (but that can be good- Don Quixote's fucking hilarious) and genre fiction = shit that's more popular and that can be great. As an example as to how thick /lit/ is- the Worm Ouroboros is loved there, and it's the precursor to Fantasy genre fiction.

>>38678260
Which is exactly what Pratchett did. Jesus, are /lit/ really this thick?

>>38678371
He's very smart, actually. Just not very intelligent.

>>38678548
More like the racial/religious conflicts in the Fifth Elephant and Thud!, or the classism in Jingo, or the corporate greed in Going Postal, or the classism/pointless deaths in Monstrous Regiment...
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>>38677811
So you're saying we're all ruled by the gods of Chaos?

I daydreamed that the Chaos gods are actually non-sapient, they're not even conscious beings, they just react and act in response to outside psychic stimulus. So what a human or Eldar would see as a mighty god, is really just the forces of the universe acting as they do without any mind behind it. Actual gods of chaos.
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>>38679725

That's too good for GW, so no, you're wrong.

Have some more space marines instead.
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>>38679674
>What books involve the Agatean Empire?

The main one is Interesting Times, though Colour of Magic and The Last Hero also mention it in passing
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>>38679837
Oh, so you don't really see it after Genghis Cohen takes over?
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>>38679878

Nah. And he doesn't hang around much either, gets bored too easily.
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>>38673304
Wait really? I didn't think australia would have that kind of snotty literary culture
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>>38679878
Nah, he gets the power and one of his first acts is to appoint Twoflower his vizier.

The barbarians hang about for a bit, one dies (far too peacefully) and they get pissed off for having lived so long and go on the quest from the Last Hero
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>>38679972
I meant the whole "we ban adults from being able to do adult things, like play adult vidya (i.e. 18+), because we don't think real adults play video games and any who do are sad manchildren who don't matter".

>>38680044
What about the dude who was vizier before (the tax collector)?
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>>38673677
>actually ran into soeone like that IRL
>get told how I should feel guilty about the patriarchy
>I was born in the fucking 90's what are you on about

I wasn't really sure people like that existed till then, for a long time i was half certain it was just trolling.

I was so wrong

still, they are exceptionally rare at least it seems
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>>38677107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldlCD7GR2JI
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>>38680090
Didn't he get decapitated?

I know Hong got BTFO in excellent style, but I can't remember any of the other government figures
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>>38680140
No, the tax collector, not the teacher. The dude who was a bastard worse than the IRS and who'd take all your money for the government even if your wife had just died, and also gave a shittonne of money away to charity and ran a few orphanages or some shit. He helped the barbarians (at swordpoint) and got appointed Vizier. I think.
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>>38680229
nah, he got appointed as taxmaster. Twoflower was the vizier, by virtue of having no idea how an Agatean vizier was supposed to act
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>>38680263
Oh yeah, that's right. I knew whoever got appointed vizier had it happen 'cause they had no clue how they were supposed to act, I just misremembered who it was.

I feel kind of sorry for the Agateans, with Twoflower at the helm.

>>38680290
You messed up at the end. Everyone hates that bastard anyway, Jesus Christ.
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>>38678260
Enjoying a book? I agree. Let’s try for something more. Many of the alternatives will have similarly fuzzy definitions, but let’s aspire to qualities like “edifying”, “healing”, “pro-social”, or even “enlightening”. I encourage you to decide upon your own alternatives to “fun” in books (while avoiding terms like “cool” and “awesome” and any other word that simply caters to existing, unexamined biases).
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>>38680229
I don't remember him.
Worse than the IRS, will tax you after your wife dies, sounds familiar, but the orphanages and charity doesn't.

The teacher (who was, technically, a barbarian) got killed, but I'm pretty sure the barbarians made Twoflower the vizier because he had absolutely no idea how to be one

>>38680132
That's great, thanks
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>>38680336
>I don't remember him.
the guy who caused the Ninja encounter.
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>>38680329
There we go. It's clear these guys didn't want in on the industry in the first place. I'm sorry for them, but it doesn't excuse being a shit to the rest of us.

>>38680336
It's in his opening description, to show you he's a good guy. And he is. Just a bureaucratic one.
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>>38679674
>>>38677906 (You)
>Yep. Pratchett is not a genre fiction author, or (as I think of it) literary fiction = arthouse shit pretentious idiots like to read (but that can be good- Don Quixote's fucking hilarious) and genre fiction = shit that's more popular and that can be great. As an example as to how thick /lit/ is- the Worm Ouroboros is loved there, and it's the precursor to Fantasy genre fiction.
>>>38678260 (You)
>Which is exactly what Pratchett did. Jesus, are /lit/ really this thick?
man, it was me on both posts... to be clear, I don't consider Pratchett genre fiction. just look at this thread, he changed the way a lot of people look at the world, that's the exact opposite of mindless escapit fiction!
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>>38680500
Yeah, I've been getting a lot of that in this thread.


Anyway, I understood you didn't think he was. I just wondered if this was really /lit/'s thought process.

I think it's actually more likely just a "it's popular with normal people -> it sucks" mentality.
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>>38676809
>Fifth Elephant
My first, very solid.
>Guards Guards
Beginning of Watch, maybe she likes dragons?
>Going Postal
Needs no introduction.
>Jingo
She might remember what it's about.
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>>38680653
>She might remember what it's about.
I doubt it, it happened in the nineteenth century. I don't think anybody's grandmother is that old.

Captcha: Ifeel. Even Captcha mourns Pratchett.
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Hey, a friend asked me to write an article on Terry Pratchett and Discworld for the uni newspaper, and whilst I have got some things planned, I feel it'd be better if I got a range of quotes from fans. Would anyone mind if I took them from here, citing "Anon" of course?
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>>38680818
only if you post the article
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>>38680814
Jingo was WWI.

Though I guess 80 years isn't even long enough for that, any more.
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>>38680879
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Island_%28Sicily%29
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>>38680818
Post it when you are finished.
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>>38680818
That could be pretty cringeworthy, m8.

>>38680879
It was some war with Italy and some other country. The whole "floating island that causes a war" thing actually happened.

But the allegory itself is for the Falklands and WW1, I suppose.
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>>38680954
>>38680932
Wow, I had no idea.
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>>38680940
>>38680870
That may be some time tomorrow.

>>38680954
It's a feel article, of course it's going to be cringey as shit.
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>>38680818
Make sure to check the two other threads before we got the sticky, and maybe /co/'s one too
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>>38680818
>I feel it'd be better if I got a range of quotes from fans. Would anyone mind if I took them from here, citing "Anon" of course?
I kind of feel that it would perhaps be better to not quite fans, and just have a few quotes from the man himself. Let his writing speak for itself, you know?
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>>38681029
I meant the fact you're taking shit from 4chan. Could get to le epic maymay levels if you're not careful. Not something you want, especially not for this.
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>>38679674
>Catholic philosophers generally agree only Christians can reach God and Christ- that's the whole point of Christianity existing
Wrong. The point of Christianity existing is to spread the good news, that we're free of the shackles of sin and death, and that ANYONE can reach God and Christ. Christianity presented a lifestyle which would help you grow closer to God. Look up the parable of the sheep and the goats. "Whatever you did for your brother in this life, you also did for me". This is, in essence, a statement that any good done for a fellow human is good done for God, especially if the person doing the good is unaware or not thinking of it.

Let me give an example, the 21st man who was beheaded by ISIS when they killed all those Coptic Egyptians in Lybia wasn't actually a Copt or even Egyptian, he was a Sub Saharan African migrant worker. We don't even know if he was Christian, but when brought before ISIS, he showed solidarity with the Coptics and said "My God is their God" and was killed with the rest. Now, every Orthodox and Catholic church on the planet counts him a Saint and Martyr for the faith. It doesn't matter whether he actually believed in God and Jesus before after or during his death, what matters is that he stood in solidarity with men who were unjustly condemned to die.

Now, Terry Pratchett had never needed that particular kind of courage in his life, and thank God for it, but he touched so many lives in such a meaningful and altruistic way, and did so for the love of it, not the money. Even if he wasn't a Godfearing man, Sir Terry was definitely a Godly man.
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You know, the last time I checked up on him I wanted to bitch at how he retired the bursar back in Unseen Academicals. And now that he's dead well, I guess that means I'll never see the rest of my favourite characters ever again.

Good bye Ridcully and the rest of the wizards, I guess we will never know what other adventures you old boys will get into. I wish I could have seen how your next adventure back at the Deans new university would have went. Tell Rincewind how much he deserves his position in the university for me.

Goodbye Mr Vimes and the rest of the watch, you guys have given me the closest thing to closure out of all the factions.

Goodbye Havelock, I wish I could have known more about your rise to power. Too bad we'll never know for sure how that thing with Margalotta will end.

Goodbye Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg, I'm sure you'll do a good job watching over Tiffany Aching. More adventures with Greebo would have been great but thats fine. I'm sure the Feegles would make sure that nothing bad happens to you.

Goodbye Maurice, you were my favourite one shot character. I wish there could have been another adventure about you.

Goodbye Teppic, Special regards to your totally hot sister.

Goodbye Cohen and the silver horde. At least your story was concluded.

Goodbye Moist, you were fairly new to the series so I havent had much attachment to you yet. I wish you could have gone on an adventure with the Ridcully, Mr Vimes and Havelock A team style.

Goodbye Death, I was looking forward to seeing more if kaos and the rest of the horsemen. I'm sure your grand daughter loves you very much. I really hope that Roundworld is part of your domain. I'm sure I'll be seeing you soon.
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>>38681191
>The point of Christianity existing is to spread the good news, that we're free of the shackles of sin and death, and that ANYONE can reach God and Christ
...If you converted to Christianity. Previously, you had to be Jewish, and you had to obey a great deal of rules. The whole deal with Christianity was that /anyone/ could get to heaven, whether you were rich or poor, so long as you converted (and repented all the bad you'd done).

The dude was probably assumed to be Christian. Christians (and other faiths) do that all the time.
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>>38681094
I think that anon is smart enough to not take the maymay posts at least
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I just handed Night Guard to some guy who started getting into fantasy when I heard what happened. Bless your soul you magnificent, you, you... I knew it would happen sooner not later, but anon am I sad. It's like I lost a friend I didn't gave a damn about who he was and was up to, but I felt like he wrote letters to me. Long, but they felt like a moment to read. Funny, but not vulgar or trivial. Bizzare, but not deprived of truth or meaning. Those were the letters.
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>>38681094
I'll be selective.

>>38681092
There's a fair bit of that. Mainly from Death.
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>>38681306
He was a great guy, too.
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>>38681289

>The dude was probably assumed to be Christian.

That happened days ago, not centuries: we didn't assume anything.

>The whole deal with Christianity was

Was. Catholicism has gone its own way since then.
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>>38681449
>That happened days ago
You literally said it was assumed.

>Was. Catholicism has gone its own way since then.
I have to admit all my knowledge of Catholicism is based in history.
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>>38681289
And paid to be relieved of your sins.
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>>38681532

I'm not the anon you were replying to, and even he didn't say that: he said that his religion didn't matter.
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>>38681244
Don't say your goodbyes just yet. One last story to tell. One last farewell to go.
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>>38681540
Nah, you'd just be in purgatory for longer. You'd still reach heaven, you just wouldn't be in the fast lane, as it were.

>>38681602
>We don't even know if he was Christian
Read before you type, faggot.
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>>38681399
It's the beauty of written word. I dont care who he was. I didn't know him. But I feel deep sadness, because he spoke through his work to everyone who read his novels. It's time for your rest, Mr Pratchett.
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>>38680653
>>38676809
Belay all of that.

Thief of Time.
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>>38681638

>>We don't even know if he was Christian
>Read before you type, faggot.

I don't get it: are you stupid?

He said: we don't even know if he was Christian. How do you translate that into: people assumed he was Christian?
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>>38681624
But Its a fucking tiffany aching story.

I mean shes ok and all. But God, If I knew it was the last book ever. I would have wanted a another wizard story. Or better yet, a great big cross over starring the heavy hitters like Sam, Ridcully and Havelock.
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>>38681532
>You literally said it was assumed.
No, anon said no one knows what his religion was, but when asked by the captors what it was he said "My God is their God."

>>38681638
>Read before you type, faggot.
I'll offer you the same advice. The meaning of the sentence is "we don't know if he was Christian or not, we don't know what religion he was. All we know is that he stood in solidarity with the Coptics."
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>>38681719
Whatever, faggot.
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>>38681719
>We
So people assumed it.
>>38681748
>No, anon said no one knows what his religion was, but when asked by the captors what it was he said "My God is their God."
Is fucking assuming that he's Christian.

>>38681765 isn't me, in case you haven't worked that out.
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>>38679674
>However, people who've never heard of Christianity, or had no real chance of being Christians (e.g. Muslims in Afghanistan) or who lived good lives despite being unbelievers (e.g. Saladin), get rewarded in the best way possible other than being with God
I've always been curious about that. I was under the impression (from my local Baptists, Chick-tract lovers, and Dante's Inferno) that nonbelievers still ended up in Hell regardless, and (even in Dante's Inferno, which had the mildest of options) that Hell really, really sucked. Does Catholicism actually have a different view on that?

My understanding of Judaism stems only from a few Reform Jews, but I was also under the impression that while conversion is hard, its actually unnecessary to convert as long as you're a good person, and that being Jewish isn't requirement for a good afterlife. Anyone have any idea what the more conservative Judaic version of that is--or the pre-Christianity version?
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>>38681729
>jimmies status: RUSTLED
That's.. Fine. Everyone can have their opinions after all... Yeah.. Fine.
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>>38681765

Well argued, my friend. Well argued.

>>38681797

>We
>So people assumed it.

How would you make such an insane connection? What is the logic behind this?

>No, anon said no one knows what his religion was, but when asked by the captors what it was he said "My God is their God."
>Is fucking assuming that he's Christian.

Or this? You're not making any sense.
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>>38681874
We = people in general. So, we think = people in general think, or, in other words, assume. So, people in general assume he's Christian.

No one knows what his religion was. But people think he was Christian.

I really don't know how to make this clearer, anon.
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>>38677008
Do we know if the Watch series is gonna have continuity with the books or something?
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>>38681943
IIRC it's post-snuff, probably post raising steam so they can have trains too.
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>>38681924

>We don't even know if he was Christian
>people think he was Christian.

How? How do you keep making this insane connection?

Are you misreading something? Do you have problems with the english language?
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>>38681797
Ah, okay then. Yes, perhaps ISIS assumed he was Christian, but that's not really what that statement he made means.

It's a way of showing solidarity. If he actually wanted to say he was Christian, he would've just said it, or something more like "Their God is my god."

The "My God is their God" is something that means more like "they are also people of my God, even if they are of a different race or religion." Shit like this pops up all the time when people have remind zealots that we're all people, even if we have different creeds.

>>38681924
I cannot speak for outside this thread, but going from the original post, the idea being convened was that he was being praised and called a martyr DESPITE not being confirmed as Christian, not because people were assuming it was so.
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>>38681924
I'm sorry, I don't see it.
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>>38677008
>knot
Ahem hem.

Great. Now I have to wonder if Angua's parents were going to show up.

And get their asses kicked by Carrot's adoptive, angry dwarf parents.
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>>38681987
Unfortunately, ISIS probably didn't care. Heroism doesn't really factor into their approach to "heresy."

What should matter is the rest of the world (and hopefully the government and people of his homeland) shouldn't care either.
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>>38682020
Doubt they'd leave Uberwald. Plus by Fifth Elephant it seems like they cut all ties with her.
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>>38682117
I don't get the picture.
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>>38682117
Dont get it.
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>>38682142
Carrot is so large the clasps on the back of his armor burst off at high speed
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>>38681924
You're missing the point, so I'll give another example. The forty martyrs of Sebaste. Forty Roman soldiers confessed their Christianity and were condemned to die of exposure on a frozen lake. One of them broke, renounced his faith, and walked away, but another soldier, who was not Christian, took his place and stood with the rest. The non-Christian soldier is a martyr and saint just as the rest of the men who died on that lake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Martyrs_of_Sebaste

That's the point I was making: That act of solidarity, of humanity, brings you closer to God than baptism or communion or any other religious ritual.
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>>38681964
Anon, I think you might need to read the first comment like I told you to.

>>38682001
"We" don't know if he's even Christian. "We" implies heavily that it's the public in general, like you might use "you" to mean people in general (e.g. "you wouldn't hit someone for no reason, you'd hit them if they'd hit your mum"). Anon then says that we don't know if the guy was a Christian. So, I said that he was probably assumed to be Christian from the fact he said "my God is their God" like Christians (and other faiths in equivalent circumstances) have done, to which someone replied that nothing had been assumed because it happened a few days ago (which I don't really see had anything to do with it, but whatever).
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>>38682117
Her mom struck me as the type to say that and then fail to follow-up, especially with Wulfgang dead and their family out of power. Angua is their only remaining child that may even talk to them, after all.
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>>38682244
Here's the question, though--is it the act of solidarity in general, or the act of solidarity with Christians?

I mean, I'm pretty sure Oskar Schindler isn't considered a saint. (In b4 /pol/)
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>>38682244
> One of the guards set to keep watch over the martyrs beheld at this moment a supernatural brilliancy overshadowing them and at once proclaimed himself a Christian, threw off his garments, and joined the remaining thirty-nine.
He's Christian you idiot.
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>>38682259

Anon, I think you need to sober up because you're rambling incoherently.

Listen.

We, as in people in general, don't even know if he's Christian.

This is what the original anon said.

Then you came up and said that he "literally said it was assumed he was Christian.

Which is not something he did. It's not something he even implied: he clearly stated the opposite: we don't know whether this guy was a Christian or not, but he still stood with those people and got killed for it.

What would lead you to think that people assumed he was Christian, or that anyone here ever said that?
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this is fucking lame.


i got started on his books when i was 15, my older cousin sent me one of them for christmas, i didnt even touch it for another 6 months, then started reading it one night and couldnt stop until the next day, i slept in class.

his books have always made me so happy, so many stories.

its not gonna be easy knowing he wont be around anymore, which is saying something for me, cause i dont normally give a shit about people.
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>>38682259
>"We" don't know if he's even Christian. "We" implies heavily that it's the public in general, like you might use "you" to mean people in general (e.g. "you wouldn't hit someone for no reason, you'd hit them if they'd hit your mum"). Anon then says that we don't know if the guy was a Christian. So, I said that he was probably assumed to be Christian from the fact he said "my God is their God" like Christians (and other faiths in equivalent circumstances) have done, to which someone replied that nothing had been assumed because it happened a few days ago (which I don't really see had anything to do with it, but whatever).
But you were arguing that somebody said he was assumed to be christian, but you were the only one who said that. I still don't see it.
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>>38682421
Did you read your comment before you posted? Because you just said exactly how he said it was assumed he was Christian. If it makes you feel any better, I was misusing the word "literally" to emphasise my point, I was not using the word literally literally.

We don't know if he's Christian. But he's considered a Saint.
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>>38682539

I'm starting to suspect you are the one who didn't read that comment, because this feels crazy.

>We don't know if he's Christian. But he's considered a Saint.

Because sometimes Christianity considers people who in life were not Christians to be Saints.

That was the point of the original anon: this man is being called a Saint when we don't even know if he was a Christian. Not because people are assuming he was a Christian, but because of what he did is just that impressive.
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>>38682640
He's just shitposting, don't take his bait.
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>>38682640
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha#Other_religions
the catholic church cannonised buddha at one point
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>>38682712

That doesn't look like bait to me, and I don't think he is shit posting.

I think we are just having some legitimate communication problem here.

Cool pic, though.
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>>38682753

Can't blame them: the guy was pretty dope.
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At this point I'm just checking in to make sure the sticky is still here.
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>>38683035
>how every demographic, even the literal baby-eating-monsters need to be coddled and crap?
When did he express this view?
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>>38683015
A week and a day might be a bit much but the number would be perfect.
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>>38683035
The only time and only book where there's even a hint of that is Monstrous Regiment. Which basically just says to not think anyone MUST be one way or another, and don't demonize people for acting differently to the norm.
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>>38682344
In order to be a martyr of the Catholic Church, you have to die for the faith. That's not kill yourself for the faith, that's not to die a combatant in a geopolitical struggle which people claim is for the faith, but to be criminalized and put to death for the faith. You don't have to be Christian for that to apply, but it does require a literal solidarity with other Christians for it to apply in that way. That's under the specific definition of martyr, which under canon law are canonized saints instantly and don't bear that 3 miracle rule.

But that wasn't my point, my point was that Catholic theology has come a long way in ironing out the inconsistencies it took on as an institution. Theologically, anyone who lives out the Word in their life already has the kingdom of God inside of him, even if he does not believe in God. And vice versa, he who says he does believe in God may not live the Word, ie, the Parable of the Sower.

tl;dr, Catholic theology totally supports that Sir Terry is totally in heaven, chill'n with Jesus. Checkmate, Atheists.
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>>38683035
Hey, easy with that projecting, you'll blind the audience. Pterry wasn't SJW, he was just that kind of "mind your own damn business" liberal that it seems like everybody on the internet was ten years back or so. He just advocated judging people on their character and their ability rather than their demographic; wasn't above making a lesbian one of the minor villains in Snuff (Ms. Pritchard, or Pritchet, or something), for which the real SJWs were screaming "homophobia!" and threatening to revoke his ally card in the ensuing shitstorm, even though he had long history of writing positive gay characters.

Also he was pretty nogunz, but you know...England. What can you do?
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>>38683384
Except it doesnt.
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>>38683491
>He just advocated judging people on their their ability
Whan an ableist shitlord.
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Fitting, is it not?
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>>38679725
no I'm saying there is no system, no hidden agenda, no plan, so ppl are effectively praying at randomness, trying to see something in there that isn't there, and making it god.
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>>38683491
>for which the real SJWs were screaming "homophobia!"
I can never decide whether I should laugh or cringe when people express opinions like this. Treating homosexuals like regular people, who can be heroic or villainous but usually are neither, is like the definition of equal treatment.
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>>38683600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

Same as the Sto Helit moto
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>>38683834
>I can never decide whether I should laugh or cringe when people express opinions like this.
Cringe is more appropriate in my opinion since it's actually quite harmful

It effectively shuts down any discussion that can be had since people automatically divide into 2 opposing camps based on their politics. Then the shit flinging starts and if you're not with us you're against us, muh soggy knees and muh degeneracy and so on.

It's all so very tiresome.
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>>38683035
>Implying tumblr SJWs will go after a heterosexual white male for a new hero

If anything, Terry was a humanist and equalist. The closer he's ever got to SJW bullshit was Monstrous Regiment, and in it he says that we should judge people for their strength of character and deeds, not their sex/race/species/whatever. SJWs won't accept someone who doesn't preach that men should be killed at birth and all women should automatically win on life on whatever they decide to do.
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>>38675923
I once went to a board games meetup and all we played was Ankh-Morpork. I've got one on Sunday... part of me wants to bring Ankh-Morpork, but I'm worried that'll make everyone sad.
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Tfw you have a signed copy of Truckers

At least I have that to remember him by. My friend suggested I sell it now but fuck that.
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I cannot believe you guys are turning Terry's memorial thread into a "muh sjws" thread.
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>>38683308
>>38683970
Monstrous Regiment isn't even really that great an example, given how several of the women are explicitly shown to be kind of nutter in a not exactly harmless way. And the big plot climax of the book reveals that a great deal of the top brass are ALSO women, and they've been perpetuating the war just as badly as their male predecessors.

It's a very well balanced book that just happens to basically star entirely women. (And Lieutenant Blouse.)
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>>38683970
Terry also taught us that generalizing like that is pretty stupid and that there are a lot of people around here who genuinely deserve the title of social justice warrior without the derogatory meaning.

And also to not take shit from the crazy ones. But seriously, I just have meet one crazy SJW irl, and 5 SJW not really retarded or full of shit among lots and lots of assholes with differents ways of thinking, so...

Also I've found way more /pol/lacks than SJW irl.
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>>38684068
Blouse is ironically the most feminine character in the book.

It's absolutely hilarious.
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>>38683491
>Also he was pretty nogunz, but you know...England. What can you do?
You know that Men at Arms isn't his actual views, right?
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>>38683834
No, see, unless you're gay yourself you're not entitled to treat them like "regular people". You can only present them as admirable witty perfect people. The depiction will no doubt be problematic for any number of reasons, but at least you're trying.

If you try to portray them as regular people without the benefit of their lived experience, you're just going to fuck it up and become a homophobic shitlord, and we allies will tear you apart for it.

...so yeah, that's the reasoning of legit SJWs, except with a trace of self-awareness I can't personally expunge while trying to imitate them, and Pratchett was not that.
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>>38684035
Its only a fairly recent development; frankly, I'd rather talk about the Discworld board games, or at least wait until somebody posts a download link to any of Steve Jackson Games' Discworld books.

>tfw I don't have enough cash to buy Guards, Guards! off BGG because I gave a shit load of cash to Comic Relief tonight AND I backed the Ghostbusters Kickstarter

Curse my moral scruples and inability to resist nostalgia!
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>>38684167
No, I just kind of assumed it totally was. May have assumed incorrectly, didn't care enough either way to try and see if he was on the record with his real views.

>>38684074
You know, the term has actually never not had a derogatory meaning. The original usage of it referred to the Social Justice Coalition, a project of some pastor whose name I don't remember. It was around the turn of the 20th century, and it was a fundamentalist Christian thing that IIRC was pro-eugenics. Pretty ironic who the term is being applied to now, all things considered. But in any case, Social Justice Warrior has never not been and will never not be a pejorative.
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>>38683513
What a wonderfully sourced, well thought out post, anon. I admit there is no guarantee, but please, we're talking about Catholic theology, a theology that professes no special knowledge of God's will. The idea of those without Biblical faith being saved dates back to the 4th century. Stop buying into the uneducated fire and brimstone theologies that have been largely discredited.
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>>38684347
>Stop buying into the uneducated fire and brimstone theologies that have been largely discredited

Discredited? By whom? And, for the matter, how?

Has there been, like, a whole series of expeditions to The Other Side conducted by the Catholic church that I somehow haven't heard about?
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>>38684237
And yeah, I want to own Talisman: Discworld Edition. Fight me.

It'd be better than bitching over religion and SJWs, like every other part of the internet.
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>>38684347
My source is being catholic and going to church in one of the most catholic countries through history, you fucking retard. I don't need your academic bullshit to know what we are being told since children here.
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>>38684468

By the Pope's decree, of course.

That's how Catholicism works: they have a messenger of God on Earth, telling them how things are.
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>>38682277
Yeah but it's not like Angua would be willing to talk either
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>>38684341
The "term" istself maybe, but the words are words and have meaning, and if you put them together they speak of something good and noble.
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Is there anything more embarrassing than people on 4chan talking about "sjws"? It's always so awkward.
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>>38683491
I'm still unsure exactly what Men At Arms was saying. People unready for technological innovation? The seduction of power? I guess everything you can think of and more.
Doubt he was 100% nogunz, but more.. guns are SRS BSNS, be cautious around the damned things.
Which is basically what a lot of the more reasonable gun owners seem to say. They're things that will kill you if you use them wrong after all.
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>>38684537

So, anecdotes, name calling and fear of knowledge? Good to know, but you experience with being dragged to church on sunday mornings sounds like a problem with your chuch, not with the official doctrine of the Church.
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>>38684587
Y-you too
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>>38684553
Her parents should be proud though, she'd be marrying royalty.

>>38684592
He definitely doesn't seem nogunz, you have spring loaded gonnes everywhere.
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>>38684074
I agree with you entirely.

I guess the generalization was unasked for, since I really meant those raging harpies that (to paraphrase Sgt. Colon) can't tell arsehole from breakfast time . I'm aware that they're a annoyingly vocal minority that tarnishes the image of the decent ones, but, unfortunately, they ARE the better known face of SJWing.
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>>38684468
Theologically discredited. There were many things that have been theologically discredited that were common practice throughout the history of the church. For example, the sale of indulgences.

>>38684537
And my source is an actually competent catechism and thorough Catholic education from grade school through university. But hey, why should I have to tell you what the last two Popes have been saying already?
http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/nonbelievers-too-can-be-saved-says-pope
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-dont-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html
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>>38684587
>Is there anything more embarrassing than people on 4chan talking about "sjws"?
The SJWs themselves: it's awkward to see people hurting their own proclaimed cause by being asshats and by giving themselves a pompous name "warrior".
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>>38684537
>I don't need your academic bullshit to know what we are being told since children here.
Might not be the best argument. As an academic he's likely to have studied the complex and nuanced works of a range of Catholic scholars and popes, which is a much better way of knowing the views of the Church than what is generally preached to the masses at masses.

>>38684468
Are you not aware of the Vatican's Infernaut program?
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thread ruined, congrats cancer
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>>38683491
>"mind your own damn business" liberal that it seems like everybody on the internet was ten years back or so.

It's funny how that has changed. I guess the SJW-contingent forced their way in to claim the left wing, thus pushing everyone else into reaction.
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>>38684638
Yes. I agree with you, too.

You saw that, Sir Terry? Two guys agree in 4chan thanks to your legacy. Maybe you don't understand why is such a big deal, but you are awesome.
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>>38684537
By that logic, growing up in the URSS would have been proof that atheism is all about murdering people.
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>>38684663
Thread's 1700 posts long. Threads evolve like that. It's not ruined, just only vaguely connected to the original topic.
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>>38684634
Spring-loaded crossbows

And Detritus's Piecemaker
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>>38684647
The term "sjw" is used far more on 4chan to identify people from tumblr than it is used on tumblr to identify themselves.

Can we please talk about Terry instead of your boogeymen?
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>>38684684
Isn't it? Fuck, then what have I been doing all this time?
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>>38684663
/tg/ stayed on topic for about 1600 posts. It's a goddamn miracle
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>>38684689
No kidding.
Plus you have a ton of other weapons, there's flamethrowers and rocket launchers and cannons and similar.
If anything the reason there's no guns is because the Assassin's Guild goes out of their way to make sure there aren't.
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>>38684700
Well, this is PTerry we're talking about
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>>38684692
It's not even used on 4chan as much as "that other infernal cesspit that shall not be named". Even /pol/ doesn't come close to that internet hate machine.
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>>38684700
Behold! And its going to be BACK on topic!
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>>38684451
>>38684567
>and if you put them together they speak of something good and noble.
No, they really actually don't. It's like the People's Democratic Republic of China. Ooh, or Men's Rights Activists. Nobody has a problem with the idea of men having rights, but the people who've taken up the banner of Men's Rights are universally cunts, no exception. Same thing with Social Justice Warriors, and actually for the same reasons; they're just two teams competing in the same oppression olympics, because identity politics are bullshit. They'l never acknowledge how much they have in common, and thank God, because if they ever joined forces they'd be unbeatable.

No, wait, that's not the term...Unbearable. Yes, their combined bitching would be unbearable.

Anyway, tl;dr, you cannot salvage that term. On the grand list of shit that will never happen, redeeming the phrase "social justice warrior" is the bubbling puddle of diarrhea that will happen the least.
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>>38684692
Like fedora is used as an insult but you don't see a lot of them around anymore: people stopped using them after they became an insult, but there was a time when they decided they were good hats to wear. Same thing with SJW: it's an insult now, but at some point people thought it was a good idea to call themselves warriors for reblogging shit online.
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>>38684721
Never tried to do that, where the fuck did you read that?
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>>38684743
Fuck you fedoras are great hats!
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>>38684707
Nobody is interested in the sort of escalation it represents.

Unless they have it in person, but it was jealous enough that it worked against propagation itself - unlike so many other of the things that followed.

I think that jealousy was a power corrupts thing, given that a gonne is very, very powerful
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>>38684788
I'm sorry anon, but they really are not: they are fucking terrible.
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>>38684788
Indeed, it was a hat PTerry was fond of.

Though somebody in one of the pre-sticky threads pointed out that most "fedoras" are actually trilbies, which shows that you can ruin a hat by reputation alone, without even wearing one.

It's like Vimes, killing those thirty men and their dog
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Ded tred
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>>38684788
>>38684820
They can work within their proper contexts, but the only kind of fedora that would fit in any casual wear context and look good on a white man would be a straw fedora, and even then they only go well in warm weather with a short sleeved collared shirt. Everything else will only fit with a fitted and matching 2-piece suit.

The exception is if you're black, arab, or hispanic, and don't look like an unkept nerd. Otherwise, you look like a fukk'n ponce.
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Favourite quotes?
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>>38684883
>Indeed, it was a hat PTerry was fond of.
Was that really a fedora? I thought they were shorter brimmed then that.
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>>38684929
Why can blacks, arabs and hispanics wear a fedora without problems?
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>>38684935
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life."

Jingo, I think.
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>>38684957

Because they are magic.
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>>38684988
Well, white fedoras work best on black people, especially if paired with white suits.
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>>38684935
In the beginning, there was nothing. Which exploded.
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>>38684820
I dance lindy-hop and blues and there are a lot of fedoras around, they are fucking great.
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>>38684957

Different expectations or something? If a white guy does it, it's as if he is apeing his great-grandfather and thats not cool. If a black guy does it, he is doing something new and interesting.
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>>38684935
>'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
>'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Quite Douglas Adams'y
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>>38684957
Because americans can never say anything bad about minorities: they must be very nice to them before shooting them.
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>>38684941
Apparently, though it is described as a large one.

>>38684970
I always liked that one
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>>38685054
Pratchett treating magic like nuclear power makes a lot of sense these days
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>>38684935
"He wanted to go home. He wanted it so much that he trembled at the thought. But if the price of that was selling good men to the night, if the price was filling those graves, if the price was not fighting with every trick he knew... Then it was too high.
History finds a way? Well, it would have to come up with something good, because it was up against Sam Vimes now. "
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>>38685158
;-;
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>>38684935
Only one creature could have duplicated the expressions on their faces, and that would be a pigeon who has heard not only that Lord Nelson has got down off his column but has also been seen buying a 12-bore repeater and a box of cartridges.
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God damn it.

Pratchett's books got me into fantasy, got me into roleplaying, got me into writing and history and a whole slew of other subjects. This shit sucks, but at least he went out with some dignity before Alzheimers fucked him for good.

So. . . I suppose the next question is this, since /lit/ is too busy sucking its own cock to actually do anything; what're we going to do in response to this?

Who's the next person to take up the torch, as it were? The next great author, the next great actor, the next great comedian? I'm sad, but, perhaps, we should see this as a challenge, than as a defeat.

Humanity does not retreat, /tg/. We have shit that needs getting done.
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At over 1800 posts we've been unstuck.

>>38684935
WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?
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>>38684935
WORDS IN THE HEART CAN NOT BE TAKEN

. . . or, perhaps, "But here, and now, we are alive!"
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>>38685493
I should reread Reaper Man. That was such a good one.
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Soon this thread will die, and everyone will forget.

All our times have come. Here, but now they're gone.

Good bye, Sir.
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>>38684935
“What kind of human creates his own policeman?”
“One who fears the dark.”
“And so he should,” said the entity, with satisfaction.
“Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I am here to keep it in.” There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened its little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. “Call me… the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be.”
The Summoning Dark backed desperately into the alley, but the light followed it, burning it.
“And now,” said the watchman, “get out of town.”
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>>38685970
WHERE'S MY COW!? WHERE'S MY COW!?
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>>38652390

It's based off the climax of Soul Music, where Death kills Rock & Roll, like, the idea of Rock & Roll.

By being too fucking METAL for anything to stand against.

It was a good read all around.
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>>38686178
And the puns and references were truly a thing to behold
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>>38684935
"The Hogfather can. The Hogfather gives presents. What greater present, than a future?"
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>>38686279
I'll admit that It took me a depressing amount of time for me to get the reference that Soul Music's cover made.
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>>38686178
Speaking of which, the line Rock & Roll says about how the rock star will be seen when he dies young.

>Never age. Never die. Live for ever in that one last white-hot moment, when the crowd screamed. When every note was a heartbeat. Burn across the sky.
>You will never grow old. They will never say you died.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31867210

So this is happening.
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>>38686437
Oh, dear Lord. What's the best word for this? Wrong?
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>>38686341
To Meatloaf?

Helps that that's how the book ends, but the whole thing is amazing for it.
Even small things, like Death nicking the Dean's coat (which has Born to Rune on the back) references music (and the Terminator).
You need a good couple of reads just to get most of them, I'd say
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>>38686483

Pretty wrong, yes.
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Plus, the only example I can think of of something that works as a retroactive reference, with the band Trollz (as in Gorillazs... who didn't exist when the book was written)
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>>38686437
>>38686483
>>38686535

>The description reads : "Because Terry Pratchett said this: 'There are times in life when people must know when not to let go. Balloons are designed to teach small children this.'"


I don't think it's wrong, really. It's just... a way to try to be like taught many to be.
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>>38686622

...What the hell are you saying?
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>>38686622
What now? But I'm going have to go with >>38686535
>>38686638
I agree.
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>>38686622
If being midway through Alzheimer's isn't a time to let go, I don't know when is. it's like people have forgotten he was sick.
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>>38686638

>Oh god, he forgot to write "he", the entire
phrase its now moon runes!

I hate to spoonfeeding, but I think he meant to say:
>I don't think it's wrong, really. It's just... a way to try to be like he taught many (of us) to be.
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>>38686678
>>I don't think it's wrong, really. It's just... a way to try to be like he taught many (of us) to be.
Half the bloody books are a treatise for death not being so bad.
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>>38686622
Considering what he was going through, it was probably time to let go.
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>>38686678
So by petitioning Death? That's not a proper way to honor his memory. The only proper way would to build a stone monument where a book reading takes place on the anniversary of his death where someone dresses up as Death and place an awesome guitar solo.
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>>38686697
No, its for death being that bad, but worrying has no purpose. And also for caring to the things we love.

>>38686706
He? Of course. The fans? They will never let him die. Thats what the petition means. It means some fans honor him by keeping him alive. As he wrote:

“No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away...”
-Reaper Man
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>>38686724
That would be pretty cool. I would go to one of those.
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>>38686724
And putting him in a boat!
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>>38686771
Of course it would. But the question is should the monument be built out of stone or should we harvest asteroids, or was it a meteorite his sword was made out of?
>>38686794
I don't get it. I'm the guy that asked wanted to get some book recommendations so I can know the full measure of what was lost.
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She's nearly gone. The Thread is unstickied and plummeting fast.

So, I want to thank everyone here for letting me mourn Mr. Pratchett as part of the community.

I love you /tg/, I hope you;ll be around for a long time to come.
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>>38686841
Oh. Dont worry, you'll get it in Interesting Times.

>>38686850
I love you too, pal.
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>>38686850
You're welcome, OP. This is one of those rare moments where OP isn't a faggot. Thank you, OP for creating this thread so I could learn about this man.
>>38686904
Thank you Anon.
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What's a good way to end this thread?
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>>38687021
By remembering, all of us, the things that he taught. And by honoring him writing. Using our rage, or sadness, to write/paint/compose/whatever, like he did. So we can be to others like he was to us.
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>>38687021


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4IpL8570WW95qk6MeGZebLfSzgnTKyj
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>>38687150
That will do it. I'm having a problem now. When I try to write something I remember this one awful story I did that has caused me a crippling sense of shame. I now can't write much due to fear of failure, but at the same time I know how can I fear failure if I don't try? Same is almost with drawing but I can't draw anyway.
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>>38687212
All of those songs?
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>>38687218
Thats an easy one to answer. Write, fail. Write again, fail harder. No one is good at the first one. Your 10th writting could make you the next best sellet author. But first, fail, and fail, and fail.
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>>38687277
Thank you, Anon. Thankfully I've gotten over it mostly. I'm going to now get over it fully to honor TP.
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>>38686794
with ALL of 4B?
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You were wrong about one thing, Terry. We'll remember the song AND the singer.
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>>38687363
He touched the hearts of millions around the world. He deserves to be remembered.
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>No more sticky

No, I'm not ready!
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>>38687783
I don't think any of us were ready. Life moves on whether we want it to or not.

(I'm trying to think like Pratchett to lessen the pain. It's not working.)
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>>38687783
Well someone archive the thread then
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I am surprised this thread lasted this long.
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>>38688037
Well, it was stickied. After that, it lasts only as long as it takes for the rest of the topics to push it down.
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>>38687835
But it can't end, there's nowhere left to go! The /co/ sticky is gone and their storytimes are running out, /lit/ will never talk about him again, the other forum I go to has moved on, the news didn't mention him once, and I don't feel better!
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>>38688130
You never feel better about it.

You just eventually feel less bad.
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>>38688130
You don't need to feel better to move on, anon
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>>38679004
If your definition of God is one that is completely non-interventionist, impersonal, and completely inconsequential in relation to the life of every mortal, and ultimately is based only on what you were told as a child and your own "feelings" (which result from what you were told as a child) then perhaps you simply lack the simple self-awareness to grasp that, not only would your life literally be no different if this overly complex made-up thing you've been brainwashed about didn't exist - there's also hundreds of other religions which are precisely as likely to be true as the one you decided to believe.

You have no logical reason to believe your religion is special beyond the fact that "you were told it is." By people who likely make the same argument.

And when someone does make the argument that they have, indeed, been in direct contact with the divine, most sane religious people treat them as what they are; mentally unstable. Because it's well-known in most major religions (especially in places where people have access to the internet) that "the divine" doesn't get in direct contact, because it acts for all intents and purposes as if it didn't exist and leaves no evidence behind.

If for instance some Jesus 2 guy broke the fucking "masquerade" it would be all over Imgur and Tumlr and Twitter, of course, but most sane people capable of a minimum of critical thinking would probably discount it until there was a very large amount of terribly solid evidence to back it up; because "that's not what 'real magic' acts like - 'real magic' acts precisely in every way as if it doesn't exist, after all! Oh but it does exist, of course!"

Of course it does, pal. And all the other just-as-good guesses with just as much evidence are obviously wrong. Wouldn't want to challenge what you know, in your heart, to be true, am I right?
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>>38688115
I guess so. Now I want to really read this guy's books.
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>>38688189

I was hoping we wouldn't have this sort of debate here and now. The man's gone, some wish to believe he's gone to a better place. Others don't. Can we respect each others beliefs and mourn the man together as one?
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>>38688279
/this
Let's not tip any hats, but take them off as a sign of mourning.
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I like to think he's going to hang out at deaths house for a while, I'm sure they can come to an arrangement
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>>38659853
You want to know something funny?

That maze can't actually be solved.
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>>38662711
>You were expecting the 2spooky guy with the scythe and the FULL CAPS VOICE, so a cute goth chick is a marked improvement
lewdness aside, I'm not so sure about that one
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>>38660667
Nah, that's more like eating it.
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>>38657966

USA here. My dad checked Monstrous Regiment out from the library, I decided to read it after he was done with it, fell in love with the series.
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>>38687876
Already did.

Time for us to go. Whoever's last, please turn out the lights. Tab's on me.
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Goodbye Terry.
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Thank you, Terry, for everything
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I got this thread opened for like 35 hours already
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>>38689502
It's been a long, strange trip. THAT'S ALL FOLKS
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Sir Terry, I never read your books before, but I will now. I will conquer my crippling sense of shame and start being a better writer in your name. I hope you travel well with the Reaperman, and rest in peace. Your memory will be continued by us.
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You will be missed
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THE END.
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/tg/ you know what we must do. A challenge has appeared and a champion falls. A new champion must rise to replace the one taken by the Reaperman. I don't know who it'll be, but a new champion must come form /tg/. Are you with me? This thread is about to be archived, but we aren't. You know what must be done. Now go.
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>>38662445
>would continuing on and missing out on the footnotes not affect my enjoyment?
The footnotes have significant portions of the amazing stuff that Pratchett wrote that is almost entirely unrelated to the actual plot.



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