just got a a quick poll for people, since I hope we'll get to her this thread

http://strawpoll.me/3839856

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>>38608809

"Is he... okay?" You ask cautiously, gazing at the unconscious boy, splayed out on your couch with a blank and listless expression plastering his face.

"Seems fine to me," Yuuki comments, "he just looks stupid." After rescuing him from the manor, you dragged the comatose Naoki Oomura back to your place without issue and set him up on the couch until he broke from this strange trance. Shun, Yuuki, and yourself are patiently waiting for him to recover and respond. Earlier you scanned him for any signs of mind control, or whatever it was that made Yui suddenly change, but since Naoki lacks a focus and as such you see nothing on him. Even his brain seems devoid of any alteration, unlike the close encounters Shun and Yuuki experienced.

"They probably didn't see the need to erase his memories if they were planning on holding him." Yuuki proposes, fiddling with a pair of futuristic goggles over his face. They click and jutter at his touch, bathing Naoki in a variety of strange lights and patterns.

"That's good for us," You remark, "He might remember his encounter more clearly." Shun smiles and nods to you. That's some progress at least; you're in dire need of an explanation about these girls.

"I suppose, but that raises the question of why bother keeping him?" Yuuki asks, frowning at the unconscious man. "If they hypnotised the rest of the council and left them alone, what makes Naoki so special that they'd need to keep him in a trance?" He continues. Noaki shivers for a second before evoking a sharp grunt and mumble. His eyelids flutter briefly. Maybe you'll get an answer soon.

"Aigh, what... where am I?" He moans, blinking awake with a hand on his forehead.

> You're with friends.
> It's Makoto, do you remember me?
> Rise and shine, Oomura.
> This is all a dream.

>>38608832
interrogate? ask her to help us into singing? Steal her idol powers? there are so many options missing


>>38608931
> Rise and shine, Oomura.
other options seem suspicious. He also expects us to be a flat girl, which if we arent right now, would be a surprise.

>>38608931
> Rise and shine, Oomura.
"No time to really explain, but Yui got kidnapped and brainwashed, and we need your help to find her and bring the people who hurt you and her to justice."

>>38609018
how's this one?
http://strawpoll.me/3840292

>>38609018
We did do a short timeskip so I'll leave Makoto's form up to a vote. You're still in maid garb though.

> Male
> Female
> Female, flat chest

>>38609159
>Male

>>38609082
So, I get why you folks hate her so much, she's done some kidnapping and mindcontrol and that's sort of thing dings pretty high on the detect good and evil scale, but how did we get into full zealous paladin murderboner after one thread?

I dont think makoto should be going around *killing people* just because they're strong enemies. What happened to Justice?

>>38609159
>> Female, flat chest
Ease him in

>>38609159
>> Female, flat chest
Although, don't we look like that even as a boy? I need a reminder on how trappy we are with no magic

>>38609159
>> Female

>>38609172
so far she and her group have removed from at least two people (Hiroko and Yui) everything that makes them who they are. Their drive, their wants, their individuality. Unless we save them, those two and anybody else Mai's group brainwashes is no longer human. There is no Justice in letting them go free after that, because anybody who would do that to another person is irredeemably evil. I would be ok with throwing her in solitary for the rest of her life too, but we can't, so death is the only option

>>38609159
>Male
not like he can tell the difference

>>38609277
There's no justice in killing either. Dont mistake taking the lesser of two evils for righteousness. You're priority should be getting the two hostages back and safe, everything else is secondary.

One of them is our lover for god's sake, Would you put revenge before her?

>>38609159
>Female, flat chest

It's what he thinks, best not shock him after that ordeal.

>>38609018
>>38609057

>>38609179
>>38609213
>>38609262
>>38609333

>>38609213
> Yeah, almost exactly the same. Makoto is a primo trap.

> Rise and shine.
> Flat chested girl.

Writing.

>>38609277
Oh but there is. See, Justice doesn't kill people. It punishes and gives chance to make amends for sins, but it only kills if there is no other option.

Ah, if only we could make that bitch a prinny, make her say "dood" at the end of every line as she serves every desire of those she brainwashed for a negative wage. Now that's justice!

>>38609324
no, saving them is still priority number 1. But there is no way in hell I'm letting anybody depraved enough to turn other human beings into literally soulless automatons live to do it again. That is straight up sociopathy, and because all the crimes they've been doing are supernatural, we can't just jail them or put them in a mental institution. Its either kill them or risk more people being hurt or killed. Or brainwash them, but then we're just as fucked up as them.

>>38609401
sometimes Justice is killing people

>>38609403
They probably need their fetters to do all the supernal shit. Just take those and have robo seal them away. Then put in a nice shock collar that goes off when they don't do what we and those they brainwashed say (with the exception of killing themselves).

>>38609436
You just let that hateboner do all the thinking for ya man. Killing is a waste, I want a shiny new slave.

>>38609403
see >>38609401
Justice doesn't kill.
He's right though, we can ask them to make amends.
It's already established that robo can take away their magic. De-power them, arrest them, whatever, but you are unjust if you just go weapons hot without even knowing their motivation, and nearly as bad as them.

>>38609465
even without their fetters, they're still extremely smart, dangerous individuals. But enslaving them is almost as evil as what they are doing. Killing them is in no way a good option, but it is the best option unless Qyubey has the group slip up and commit a mundane crime like murder or kidnapping (technically they haven't, because bullshit magic brainwashing). At least if we kill them only we suffer the bad karma, rather than everyone who participates in enslaving them

>>38609487
anon, what motivation could justify unmaking a person? and how could you possibly make ammends for that?

>>38609558
Look closely and you'll notice that we've also unmade people. They probably think our purification is exactly that. Think about how wistful momoko was when looking at the statues, think about how much yui wanted to keep her magic, she claimed it was part of her.

Claim up and down all you want that killing them is somehow okay, but if you kill them, you are no better than them and their brainwashing. If you are just, you can't do either.

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>>38609347

"Rise and shine, Oomura." You say to Naoki with a smile. He cradles his head with one hand, slowly rising with a groggy look on his face.

"It feels like I've been... wait, what day is it?" He asks suddenly, glancing at the window. It's past midday and just into the afternoon.

"It's Monday." You tell him. He scratches his cheek with a sheepish look.

"That's quite a bender, even for me." He chuckles before noticing his surroundings in more detail, along with Shun and the goggle-clad Yuuki. "Aaand you people aren't our regular maids." He takes a better look at each of you, but only stops to study your face. "I know you, don't I?"

"Probably. I'm a friend of Yui." You say, your face twisting into a frown. "Something terrible has happened. I don't know how or why, but I think Yui's been brainwashed by some awful people, and they stuck you in some sort of coma. Please," you clap your hands together, "I need your help. Anything, anything at all that you can remember." You plead to him. He thinks for a moment, tapping his forehead.

"I... do remember." He mutters. "One of Yui's old school friends; May, Mai, Mao, something, she came by to visit. As far as I recall, they had a falling out some years ago, though I don't know why." He explains, crossing his legs on the couch. "Not that it mattered, I told her to get lost or talk to Yui first. And then..." He places a hand on his head for a second.

"Ugh, that can't be right." He mutters.

"What?" The three of you ask.

"Okay, I'm pretty sure it didn't go down like this, but I swear she... at least I remember her pulling some kind of object out of her phone. A weapon, I think..." He iterates, mimicking some kind of gesture. "There more girls, and then everything goes black.*sigh* Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult, that's really what I remember. I should really stop drinking..." He mumbles.

> Y-Yeah...
> It's useful anyway. Thank you.
> I think she's a magical girl.
> No, you were right. *show magical powers*

>>38609643
>> It's useful anyway. Thank you.
>>Write in: what can you tell us about Mai?

>>38609607
I am not going to try and say that purification is Just in any way. It lets people control themselves, but we don't know the cost to who they are.

But I believe it is better to kill someone than brainwash them. I've seen people who control and manipulate others, and Yui and Hiroko are pretty much acting the same as someone who's been in a toxic relationship for months or years. And I've had to help friends back from that point. trust me, the people who do this kind of thing deserve death, no matter what motivation they claim to have

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>>38609558
Since brainwashing is essentially enslavement of the highest order it only makes sense that they atone by getting as good as they gave. It won't be forever and you couldn't ask them for totally unreasonable things like sex or suicide of course, that'd just be unfair (unless they did such things with the brainwashed, then they get to whore themselves out for their master's profit for that special kind of evil). Thus, I propose we enslave them for twice as long as they brainwashed those under their control.

For example, if by the end of this Yui was brainwashed for 2 weeks, Mai and her posse will be her slaves for a month (i.e. 4 weeks). That should make amends and teach them a lesson they won't soon forget.

>>38609643
>I think she was a magical girl
>What can you tell us about Mai? Anything would be useful.

>>38609837
anon, slavery is not Justice, slavery is unquestionable evil

>>38609802
Steve?

Better or not, it's still deplorable, and you are immediately unjust for trying it. Do the right thing.

>>38609865
Eye for an eye anon. If you enslave someone you ought experience the suffering of those you held in bondage. That should teach you to never do such a thing ever again. You'd never get enslaved if you didn't enslave someone else beforehand. Crimes demand proportionate restitution. If you steal, you must return that which you stole plus a bit extra for the pain, suffering, and injustice you inflicted upon another. This is so that you learn a lesson.

Besides, what the hell do you think prison is? You work for 25 cents an hour if you want more than a few shitty meals and a dank cell. How's that any different from slavery? Same with locking a dude in a dank cell. How's that nice? How's that make restitution to the victim? What do they get out of it? Unless it's the sweet, sweet satisfaction of "revenge" (which isn't really justice) I'm just not seeing how locking a dude up really helps matters.

>>38609872
the right thing is making sure they never hurt anyone again. Removing their fetters means that brainwashing takes months rather than minutes, but slowing the process doesn't stop it. Doing anything to 'teach them a lesson' might not work. But killing is bad karma.

We need to send them to Robo-san. He can lock them away, and they can live out their lives in a space prison, unable to do damage to anything again

>>38609978
anon, eye for an eye is almost as far from the idea of justice you can get. what you suggested is two eyes for an eye, which is even worse

I'm not sure if its the arc or the argument about killing people, but don't we usually get a couple more anons in here by now?

>>38610167
I think it's the time of day or something.

>>38610070
How? They brainwashed some folk. That's even worse than slavery. Since it wouldn't really be just to simply brainwash them right back we gotta settle for the next best thing, which in this case is slavery.

That's what they deserve, the highest of sins must be repaid with the most extreme restitution. Besides, locking them up for life in robo-san's space prison is essentially no different from killing them. It's a cheap cop-out, like saying that you've never killed anyone yourself and thus are innocent, yet you did give money and plenty of orders for others to dirty their hands for your goals. Yeah, doesn't really work like that. And just locking them away does little to actually reform them, it'd just drive em' insane. Solitary confinement really fucks you up in the head.

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> Not that I'm not enjoying this hot debate on the morality of crime and punishment, but can we at least keep posting commands?

>>38610188
> Hm, I thought running earlier would be better for people.

>>38609705
>>38609837

"So what can you tell us about Mai? Anything would be useful." You say.

"Hm, not much to tell. She's was Yui's friend in middle school, practically inseparable, which was strange consdering they were almost exact opposites," he explains, thinking back, "Yui was pretty antisocial, but Mai was incredibly outgoing. And loud, I definitely remember that. It was good for her, I think."

"But, once they reached high school, something happened. Yui wouldn't tell me but I think it had something to do with her changing schools. She didn't want to mention Mai after that." He frowns and looks up. "But if she's responsible for hurting my little sister, you can be damn sure she's not going to get away with it." He seethes, slamming his hands together. Brotherly love at work, it seems. He breaks from his rage for a moment to look at you.

"Ah, right, Makoto wasn't it?" He asks with a smile. You nod back, not seeing a reason to lie here. "I have you to thank for freeing me, so I really should thank you."

"Ah, that's fine." You say, waving your hand and grinning. "Any help in rescuing Yui is all I need." You feel his hand at your cheek for a second and he leans in.

"You're not exactly my type, but here." He says, before kissing you full on the mouth.

"MMFH!?" You screech through the kiss, your eyes going wide as Naoki closes his. Shun stumbles back and Yuuki gapes. His lips are soft, but entirely different from the girls you've kissed. He releases you fairly quickly, letting you sizzle on the couch, your eye twitching.

"I know a lot of girls who'd be pretty jealous of you right now, but don't brag about it, okay?" He asks with a self-satisfied grin. That was...

> Kind of amazing, actually.
> N-Not all bad...
> I-I don't know.
> A-Awful!
> JERK! *punch*

>>38610240
>> JERK! *punch*

>"AT LEAST TAKE US OUT TO DINNER FIRST!!!"

>>38610217
Justice doesn't do what they "deserve". Justice does what's right.

We'll find a solution, but killing and slavery aren't it, and I want them off the table If you are just, you'll also be creative enough to find a way.

>>38610240
>no opinion whatsoever
>"How about you don't do that again, and we focus on rescuing your sister?"

>>38610240
>>write in: stunned
>>we have to rescue Yui, we can talk about that later.
What a guy. Isn't shun and yuuki right there to react?

>>38610328
seconded
I don't really want bits of romcom right now, I want this arc done as quick as we can

>>38610240
>JERK! *swift kick in the nuts*
>What kind asshole just up and kisses a girl they barely know! Now, let's figure out how to save Yui.

Perverts get nut shots, anime has taught me this to be true.

>>38610240
> JERK! *punch*

>>38610286
then we go with >>38609986
space jail for all the psychos, as we catch them. It has the added benefit of them not being able to reach their companions once we beat any of them

>>38610328
this

>>38610240
>>write in: stunned
>>>we have to rescue Yui, we can talk about that later.
Kyya, my yaoi fantasies are coming true

>>38610328
Supporting this one too. Mind on business, not random stupidity

>>38610240
"Not the time, not the place. People are in danger. Your sister is in danger."

>>38610240
> JERK! *punch*
>"How about you don't do that again, and we focus on rescuing your sister?"

>>38610511
But he must receive punishment for his perverted, womanizing ways! We don't want to encourage this kind of behavior.

>>38610275
>>38610328
>>38610370
>>38610393
>>38610426
>>38610495
>>38610571

>>38610511
> But random stupidity is the spice of life, anon. We can't all be grimderp, that would be ever so dull.

Writing.

>>38610328
I like this

So what do you anons think is the reason for Makoto's trust issues?

>>38610589
eh, I'm fine with grimderp in this arc, as long as it makes this arc shorter

>>38610589
I like it too. Maybe we kiss Yui in front of him sometime when the mood is lighter and get some good laughs out of that.

>>38610589
Indeed, all serious and no funny makes for a dull story.

>>38610623
Oh you're no fun. No reason not to have some silly even when things are as dire as they can practically get.

>>38610589
I love me some random shenanigans. I do not love random shenanigans when a bunch of mind rapists have one of our girlfriends and are trying to hurt other people

>>38610240
>> Hm, I thought running earlier would be better for people.
no i for one have work

>>38610654
i don't know, all the silliness in the past few threads just feels forced and wrong to me. Its probably just the fact that this arc has me in kind of a funk, or that I feel like the ending is going to be either depressing or contrived, but nothing since before we met Yui post-brainwashing has even given me a smile

>>38610614
Perhaps on the lines of the whole absent dad thing or something that happened during childhood.

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>>38610623
> Oh shush.

>>38610589

You don't really have an opinion about what just happened; you're pretty stunned yourself. Your first kiss with actual guy. He's still smirking, but you grit your teeth and ball your fist.

"JERK!" You call out, punching him right in the cheek. He sails over the couch, landing next to Shun, in a heap. You pant and stare him down. "H-How about you don't do that again, and we focus on rescuing your sister?" You say frantically, pointing a finger at him. His head pokes up from behind the couch.

"That's a bit closer to my type." He comments with a wink. You cough and falter. What the hell is with this guy!? Maybe he's a masochist or something...

"...Okay, let's go save Yui!" Shun announces, evidently just trying to ignore the entire affair.

"Speaking of which, I haven't thanked you either." Naoki says, sliding up behind Shun. She shivers.

"L-LET'S GO!" She says, dragging you and Yuuki out the door, very mechanically.

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>>38610741
> Past few threads.
It's been half a thread since you found that out, anon. There's been like one or two jokes.

>>38610826

The four of your heads poke out of the bushes near Osataka High, one at a time. The inter-school competitions are still going, though nearing the end of the day, it seems. The festivities are due to last all week, so whatever Mai is planning is probably going to finish in that timespan. You grind your teeth just thinking about that girl and what she's done gets your blood boiling like nothing else. Shun places a hand on your shoulder and smiles, bringing you back down. At least you have her to ground you right now.

"Alright, so what's the plan?" Shun asks.

"We need some way to neutralise Mai, but we're hideously under-advised." Yuuki comments, tapping at a holographic screen. "Musume is in repairs but won't be ready for a while." Naoki gives him a strange look when he says that, along with a stranger look at the holographic projection.

"Is simply beating her down an option?" Shun asks, slapping her fist into her hand.

"I guess," he groans, "but I'm not sure about how well that'd work against someone like her."

"Why not? She's a girl like any other." Naoki comments, stepping out of the bushes. Yuuki panics as he breaks cover but quickly realises the bushes were pointless in the first place.

"Makoto, how do you wanna proceed?"

> Fast and furious. Find her, beat her.
> Distract her whilst I attack her unaware.
> Let's observe her first. We might learn something.
> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.

>>38610883
>Distract her whilst I attack her unaware.

>>38610286
I agree we shouldn't want to kill them we do want to stop them.
They may not fully realize what they have done just like our purification may have horrible mental side effects we are blind to.
Maybe this is all based on a huge snowball of misunderstandings.
Maybe they can be redeemed.
we should save our friends and any innocents.
and if possible we should turn them to the path of justice and away from the dark road they walk.
They may even help us if we relay are doing something to justify them thinking of us as a monster.
I honestly believe we both probably need each other to achieve Justice. Though that has lots of metagaming.

>>38610883
the past few threads thing has been since she left and the tone started feeling different. the half a thread's just left me completely devoid of want for comedy
> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.

>>38610883
>> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.
That's not something we can put off. We could use her help anyway.

>>38610883
> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.

>>38610741
It is devastating to see a well-liked character get shafted in the worst possible way, like reading a work by Kafka, things are happening to people that they well and truly don't deserve. It burdens the heart.

Thus, the need for a bit of comic relief and silliness! Laughter is the best medicine, the entire concept of gallows humor was invented so that even those facing death and torture could find a bit of solace in the deepest despair.

>>38610883
> Let's observe her first. We might learn something.

We could really use another drone to spy on her 24/7. That'd really help out. Can we ask Yuuki about that?

>>38610883
>> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.

>>38610883
> Mai comes later, let's find Yui first.

>>38610932
this guy has a point you have been hanging this sword over us ooc for way longer than we knew IC. Honestly this reveal of a new game mechanic coupled and explicitly saying the tutorial is over seems like really poor planing. Not to mention the mind control which is a relay touchy subject especially in an up beat character driven work like this. I come hear for the light hearted characters and the simple but cool fights won through friendship this tone shift sucks.

>>38610883
we need to tell Ka-san and Umeki to not meat at the manor.

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to the people who think that whatever reason these people have for fucking with other people's heads can justify it, I'm going to be posting this image after every speech each villian of this arc gives about why they had to do what they did

>>38611221
It's like you don't want to start Maiden Black's arc

>>38611221
If the process is reversible and they knew that, it is more like kidnapping and slavery with a dash of rape. None of which Ii s bad as murder. Furthermore if they could claim self defense as opposed to preemptive strikes (I doubt they can) then it is self defense and a better option than killing though still horrible and not Justice but then neither is killing even when necessary.

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>>38610932
>>38610947
>>38610960
>>38610982
>>38611023

"Mai comes later, let's find Yui first." You decide. The rest of your party agrees. Defeating Mai and her goons might be your ultimate goal, but you'll need allies first. Hiroko and Yui must be freed.

The four of you enter the school and pass mostly unaware; most students are absorbed in their own activities. Naoki manages to attract a small following of girls in the time it takes for you to locate his sister though. She was certainly right about the playboy thing...

You can see Yui in the hall ahead of you, with Hiroko at her side. Yui is staring out the window at the arena flanking the field, but Hiroko is facing the other way, and she'll be the first to see if you jump the two of them. Unfortunately the hallway isn't empty, so if you assault them as Maiden White you're sure to be seen. You can probably find somewhere to change, but your magical girl form itself is likely to be caught. You don't know if you'll be able to heal them without your powers though...

"I just don't see why we can't induce another emotion." You hear Yui ask Hiroko.

"If love could solve it, you'd have probably caused it by now." Hiroko comments back, opening up a can of soft drink. "Unless he can awaken fully, I don't think Makoto will ever realise what he's actually doing to people."

"But..." She turns to Hiroko but pauses. "I can't stand him looking at me like that." Hiroko frowns.

"I know it's hard, but you're the best chance we have to help him. Don't worry; between the two of us and Mai, it won't be long at all. Then everything can go back to normal. Black pepper, remember?" She puts a hand on Yui's shoulder, smiling to her. She still looks upset though.

"What the..." You mutter, listening in.

> Jump them, purify without powers.
> Change to maiden in a spare room, heal them.
> Whatever Mai told you is a lie!
> Keep... listening.

>>38611298
*which is as bad

>>38611298
>kidnapping, slavery, and rape
>not worse than murder
also, its pretty solid gif usage, and I doubt there's one that says "cool motive, still mind rape and slavery"

>>38611312
>Jump them, purify without powers.

>>38611312
>> Keep... listening.

>>38611347
true but my point also still stands.

>>38611312
>Jump and hug Yui, purify while begging her to please come back to us

>>38611312
>Keep listening

We need to find out what they're talking about before we attack. We must learn our enemy's master plan!

>>38611437
fuck their master plan. if they're all powerless and thrown into Yuuki's subbasement they can't do anything

>>38611312
> Keep... listening.
>ask Naoki if he knows what Black pepper if referring to.

>>38611312
>Jump them, purify without powers.

>>38611312
>Jump them, purify without powers.
this is our best chance to catch them by surprise

>>38611468
look we have at least 2 probably 3 people to save we need a plan. Not to mention that count doesn't include all the brainwashed bystanders or the fact that these people are a threat and need to be stooped from brainwashing people. All of that will be easier with more info.

>>38611370
>>38611437
>>38611476

>>38611369
>>38611432
>>38611493
>>38611517

> Untransformed assault wins.

Roll 1d100. Best of three.

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>38611596

>>38611312
>Jump them, purify without powers.
honestly don't give a fuck about long term gain, I want as much power on our side as quick as possible so we can kick this other group's teeth in next thread

Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>38611468
Yeah, way to think with your emotions and potentially fuck everything up dude. The mission is what matters, your feelings will only compromise everything and risk everything going to shit.

>>38611596
Fuck, this isn't gonna end well idiots.

Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>38611596

>>38611602
>>38611617
>>38611620
Welp.

Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>38611596

>>38611620
>>38611617
>>38611602
Oh god.

>>38611602
>>38611617
>>38611620
Oh wow, the dice gods hated this move.

Um, writing.

>>38611602
>>38611617
>>38611620
see even the dice gods think this was a moronic plan.

>>38611596

if we die right now can we skip this arc?

Not surprised that was a bad idea.

whelp, so much for Makoto being lucky. everybody ready to watch one of the women we love turn us into a soulless zombie?

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The dice have spoken. Perhaps now, after a monumental failure people will start thinking with their brains instead of their emotions. Morons...

>>38611714
nope. I want this quest to go back to being lighthearted, which means sticking to emotional action

>>38611714
Just got here, surprised you guys didn't listen longer. Attacking was dumb. Oh well.

So, if it turns out that Robo is evil, what happens to Yuuki?

>>38611700
I know I am! So long Yui, tis better to have loved and lost, then never to have loved at all.

>>38611777
We lewd him.

>>38611751
>Do you have a tone for the game you want to keep consistent? I for one will be very cross with the murderboner anon if he manages to drive the game into grimderp territory.
>Yeah, I have a tone I'm keeping. It may dip into darker territory, but I'm going to keep a generally light atmosphere by having characters joke and bicker back and forth. Don't worry, it's been one thread. You haven't scratched the surface of the truth yet.

>You haven't scratched the surface of the truth yet.

Yay, thread after thread of soul-crushing despair kept 'light' with random banter

>>38611751
No, anon, The quest was always lighthearted when we used our heads and maybe our dicks.
Every time we had an emotional outburst not tempered by anything else, the tone has turned bad, someone has gotten hurt, or we've lost a friend. Can you guys learn your goddamn lesson now?

Our powers and purification is even about not letting people run away with their emotions. Corruption is their untempered emotional outbursts and that's what we've been stopping, why are we so stupid as to ignore this?

>>38611866
Because 99 percent of the world population is stupid. Most people would rather die than think, in fact they do.

>>38611714
eh, emotional outbursts might not be the best choice, but they make the most sense from an in-character perspective. most people wouldn't stay clear-headed at the thought of their friends or loved ones being brainwashed, much less actually seeing the effects

>>38611891
See I would, but that's just me. I've read enough stories both real and fictional to know that letting your emotions get the better of you in critical situations almost always leads to even greater disaster. As I don't want to end up like the people in those stories, I'd keep a level head. But hey, I'm weird.

>>38611891
Staying clear headed is how we did thing in-character whenever we had loved ones in danger before! We saved Yui that way once, we lost Hiroko by failing to. It's been this way since /d/

>>38611965
And now we're gonna lose Yui. Oh well, I'd like to believe that would teach the idiots their lesson, but no matter what the only lesson we learn from history is that nobody learns their lesson from history.

>>38611891
Then he should have went full out Maiden instead of half-assing it. Especially that he cares more about his friends than what others think of him.

No you see guys, when we fail and they try to turn us, Makoto can cry out that he hates Yui when she' like this and runs away. That's sure to show Yui the error of her ways, I mean, she already said she's having doubts.

>>38612095
see, I want him to keep pathetically trying to purify her while crying and begging her to go back to the Yui we love

>>38612095
>>38612139
with those rolls, I doubt we'll get the chance. Maybe if it was just Yui, but Hiroko's just going to Structure us no questions asked. I'm honestly going to be surprised if we don't immediately get captured and mind raped

>>38612095
That's a regular fail, this is more like a crit fail. Get ready for suffering.

>>38612095
no, we rolled poorly, are outnumbered, and Hiroko hates us. Qyubey's going to send us down the road to Bad Ends

>>38612230
hopefully. then we can start back up and avoid the weird spy-game shit that this quest has gone to

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> It was just a purification roll guys, jeez.

>>38611636

"Pepper again," Yuuki mutters, "Didn't that woman back at the manor say something about black pepper?" He asks Shun. She nods back, and even Naoki looks contemplative.

"It... sounds familiar." He says, squinting at the pair.

"Black pepper, red pepper, bell pepper, I don't care!" You say, darting out from your hiding spot. Yuuki reaches for your but you evade his fingers deftly. You leap out into the hallway, untransformed, and run at the pair of them, shouting out "YUI! HIROKO!" The two of them flinch, and Hiroko drops her soda as they see you run at them.

"Makoto!?" They shout back. You spread your arms and leap at her, catching Yui in your grip. She seems to panic and looks down at you burying your face into her.

"Don't be like this! Come back to us, please Yui." You plead, trying to spread your power. With the combination of your frantic emotions and the lack of a proper form, your spreading is erratic at best. At worst, you feel... strange. Angry. The two girls stare at you for a second before glancing at each other.

"...Get off me, Makoto." Yui says, pushing you away with a frown. You step back in disbelief; how far does this brainwashing go!? You feel your teeth grinding angrily.

"Why, why is Mai doing this to you?" You ask, pleading for an answer. Yui continues to stare at you, sweating and glancing away from your sight.

"She's not doing anything to me. It's you I can't trust." She states, pointing at you. Hiroko slaps her on the shoulder, as if to encourage her. You can't even fathom the rage you're feeling right now. Mai, pepper, whoever's responsible is going to pay. Your vision starts to feel blurry and your garter feels hot for some reason. There's something inside you just itching to get out, and you're seriously about to let it...

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>>38612293

At least until Shun walks over and slaps her.

"Yui, what the hell is wrong with you!?" She calls out, surprising everyone for a second. Naoki and Yuuki are close behind. She brings a hand to her raw cheek and glances at you. Your anger has dropped a little, which causes her to shiver.

"We were so close." She mumbles to herself, glancing at Shun with tears in her eyes, "I can't take this..." She turns on her heel and runs away.

"Agh, Yui!" Hiroko calls out after her, chasing her down the hall. The rest of you start to move when Hiroko turns about face and raises her hands. From her fingertips, a spray of water ejects, hitting the floor at the feet of your group. Some people in the hallway gasp as the liquid washes over your group. Her eyes flash white and she snaps her fingers; instantly, the water freezes in place, forming shackles of ice around your legs.

"What!?" You blurt out as the four of you collapse the floor. With your group momentarily delayed, Hiroko dashes off down the hallway after Yui. You try and drag yourself but the ice is too thick. Shun bashes at the ice on her legs and Yuuki seems to deploy some kind of saw tool tool from his arm, cutting away at that which binds him.

"Did that girl just shoot ice from her hands?" Naoki mumbles, his eyes wide and body stunned.

"But how did she do it without transforming?" Shun gasps, finally managing to wedge her ankles free. "That's impossible, you can't use your powers in your regular body!" Yuuki snaps the ice from his feet and quickly moves to free you, whilst Shun tries to assist Naoki, still in utter shock like most of the people in the hallway. You read her focus as she fled; she was definitely not transformed but she could still use her powers, and to a greater degree than you've ever seen her capable of. There was corruption inside her, giving her this power, you just know it.

> Chase them.
> Fall back, think of a plan.
> Go punch Mai.

>>38612334
>> Chase them.

>>38612293
>It was just a purification roll guys, jeez.
true, but I feel like people really don't trust you right now

>>38612334
>Chase them.

>>38612334
>fall back, think of a plan

>>38612334
>Chase them.
Maiden Red is better than this depressing tone, let's embrace her

>>38612334
>Chase them.
this is our fault. If it wasn't for us, Yui wouldn't be like this. If we hadn't told Hiroko our secret, she wouldn't have been preyed on. If we weren't so weak, we would have saved them already. We have to fix this

>>38612334
>Fall back, think of a plan.
I knew it. Mai want's to make a name for herself by having Makoto corrupt himself and end up as a villain.

>>38612334
>Go punch Mai.

>>38612334
>> Chase them.
I really want to sit down and plan, but the pressure's on.
Let's resolve to be more reasonable in the future.

>>38612377
It's not the QM I don't trust here.
If anything, I have to put all my hope and faith on QB to reign in players who I'm not certain are aware of the narrative.
I don't like to do metagamey shit to try and wrest control of the narrative in any rpg, and especially not a quest, but what I wouldnt give for some video game contrivances like "load game" or "save state" right now.

>>38612491
honestly, I don't care. Let her. If we're a villain, we have nothing holding us back from punishing her the way she deserves

>>38612334
>> Fall back, think of a plan.
Have shun go ask Yui why she cant trust Makoto. There is something going on and we need to know what,

>>38612377
that is also my impression I like this game of whose right the problem is you have used obvious mind manipulation on the people on our side that may be fine in a story but is jarring in a game especially when that is not the whole point of the game.

>>38612516
THAT. IS. NOT. JUSTICE!!!

>>38612334
> Fall back, think of a plan.
Can we actually try to be smart now? Just because you guys don't like the direction things are going doesn't mean you have to make things worse.

>>38612516
I don't mind it, but it would have been great if there was some one the people could blame for the mess. But she'll just erase that mess from peoples minds.

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>>38612554
but it could be

>>38612334
> Fall back, think of a plan.

>>38612517
>that is also my impression I like this game of whose right the problem is you have used obvious mind manipulation on the people on our side that may be fine in a story but is jarring in a game especially when that is not the whole point of the game.
I'm not even confident mind manipulation is what's happening here. their powers could easily be something else that they're playing up like mind manipulation.
We have dangerously little data about what we're up against, and every time I've voted to try and find out more, I get outvoted in favor of doing something unsafe and getting our shit ruined. We need information. We NEED it. we're at an obviously huge disadvantage without it
I'm starting to think it's not even mind control at all. I don't think it's dopplegangers, so possibly a honey trap or a capture ploy. what if the hostages arent the target, but us?

>>38612377
Its not that I don't trust Qyubey, but I am really mad at him.

We knew that we couldn't tell a lot of people about our powers, so we tried to keep our group close-knit and everything a secret. We screwed up with Hiroko, and we knew it. But Yui was someone we'd been close to all quest, someone we trusted, someone we loved. The way this whole thing went down doesn't feel like villains targeting one of our loved ones, it feels like a punishment for trusting people at all

>>38612671
Yui had the things she loved removed from her, it's probably mental or spiritual tinkering that's happening here.

>>38612334
>Chase them.
we fall back, the enemy regroups with two people we wanted to get on our side. They'll attack while we plan, and we will lose

>>38612671
honestly, mind manipulation is the best case scenario here. if it isn't that, it's something that removes pieces of someone's inner self, which is probably worse than death

>>38612334
I see, so their plan is to force Makoto into an emotional nadir and make him flip out for power Griffith style, which would likely completely corrupt him or something else that's really bad. Not a bad plan, no wonder Hiroko said Yui was their best card. One of the best ways to break someone is to take everyone and everything they love away.

>>38612704
Q claims in the ask that we have proof of no mind control but Yui has been our friend and has had a huge personality shift. If we accidentally mind controlled her and this is a cure side effect she would tell us as she would know it was an accident. not to mention the point >>38612704
makes

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>>38612493

> Chase wins.

>>38612787
if we have proof that there's no mind control, we are dealing with something a whole lot worse and they need purification even more. And it probably means I'm going to wind up siding with the anon with the murderboner. Mind control's fucked up, but removing bits and pieces of people's identity is even worse. Mai needs to have every bone in her body broken

>>38612704
>>38612731
I get some feeling that her personality wasn't changed so much as she's acting. Could be blackmail or coercion or hopefully she's trying to double agent on our behalf.

come to think of it, what if the target isn't makoto, but robo-san?

So as my post isn't just a bunch of spoiler text. I want to see more lewds soon, so that I can continue to link to situation relevant lewds or trap threads.

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>>38612808

The second Yuuki releases you from Hiroko's icy grasp, you're off again.

"Dammit Makoto, just wait for us!" Yuuki calls out after you, but you're already gone. You round the corner and follow the pair's trail, passing by startled students as you wind through the hallways and down the staircases. The sight of flapping double doors catches your sight and you slam them open, leading into an auditorium. A basketball game is going on, but that isn't your concern. Yui and Hiroko are standing on the other side of the court, out of breath, next to Mai, dressed in a basketball outfit. She notices you, huffing and puffing, and takes a few steps to stand between you and the two girls, crossing her arms stoically.

"Makoto, what's up?" She asks, stepping in front of the two girls.

"Don't give me that." You spit at her, walking through the court. She takes a step back and frowns as you draw closer, and you grab her by the collar. "What did you do to Yui?" You ask. She glances back at Yui, who looks at her with concern in turn.

"I... just did what had to be done." She says, squinting her eyes back to you. "...But I can reverse it."

"Reverse it!?" You shout, throwing her back. She stumbles but keeps her footing. With one foot she kicks at the floor, and with a hand she points at you.

"I challenge you to a competition of magical girls, a fair fight between your group and mine! If you win, I'll put everything back to normal and you can do whatever you want to me." She says, placing a hand on her chest. "But if we win, you'll give up being Maiden White!" She demands, smiling confidently to herself.

> Deal.
> I refuse!
> Reason with Mai.
> Try and attack her.

>>38612951
>> Reason with Mai.
>> Interrogate: what have you done! don't answer vaguely
We need more information. It's unsafe to just accept or attack without knowing more. Just what exactly did they do?

>>38612951
>I refuse!
>>38612932
I remember Yui's structed being described as empty. The emptiness could be because of >>38612704

>>38612951
>> Reason with Mai.
Perhaps we can learn a bit more....

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>>38612951
hit her and keep swinging until we can't move

>>38612951
How about a 1-v-1 fight? we're outnumbered, it'd hardly be fair

this is some serious bullshit QB

>>38612951
>>> Reason with Mai.
>>> Interrogate: what have you done! don't answer vaguely
> you say im a monster but you go and change peopls whole personality HOW COULD YOU? HOW DARE YOU? SPOILER/ she tells us that's what we have been doing.

>>38612951
> Reason with Mai.
Hopefully try to get intel, maybe learn why she wants Makoto to stop being Maiden White. If that fails, then
> I refuse!
No reason to fall into her terms. That's just bad tactics.

>>38612932
This is my impression as well.

>>38612951
> I refuse!
> Attack her.

>>38612951
"And why the hell would I accept that deal? You're utterly ruthless, you'd do anything to win. At this point, I'm surprised you haven't killed anyone yet!"

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why are we dealing with a female version of this shithead? he was a bad character then and she's a bad character now

>>38612951
>I refuse!
5 or more on one is hardly fair at all.
> Reason with Mai.
Though I doubt this will do much

>>38612951
>Reason with Mai
get close to her so we can talk like normal people

>>38612992
>Could be
We cant do this. This is exactly the kind of thing that gets people in trouble.
Her distant facade has cracked every time we've observed her from a distance. Mind control doesn't crack. If you didn't pick up on it, fine, but it's happened twice and failure to read is no excuse to run forward and get us killed.

>>38612951
what the fuck Qyubey? only one sane options, 3 that wind up doing the same thing, and 1 that lets her attack us first? that's not cool

>>38612951
>Ask: Can we take this somewhere else?
>Reason with Mai

We have no idea what the F is going on. We need more info, we need to know what she thinks we did or do.

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>>38613095
> No idea who that is.

>>38613157
> Uh, no, they all do different things. Okay, maybe saying no and reasoning sort of lead to the same conclusion so I'll give you that one.

Writing.

>>38613196
>Uh, no, they all do different things. Okay, maybe saying no and reasoning sort of lead to the same conclusion so I'll give you that one.

If we make a deal, we get into a fight with her. If we try and attack, she acts like we accepted, and we get in a fight with her. We refuse, she gets the first swing and just brainwashes all of us
Reasoning with her is the only option that doesn't get us attacked here and now with overwhelming force

>>38613196
>No idea who that is.
he was one of the villains in Bleach. He could rewrite people's memories and wound up turning all the main character's friends against him. He's also one of the more hated characters in the setting and nobody cares about why he did it. There's more than a few parallels

>>38613196
sorry QB, I'm agreeing with angry anon here. everything but reasoning with her really seems like a trap option here. not a whole lot of room for choice if we want to stay alive

>>38613196
I have tried to be on your side through this but you keep making things worse for your credibility.

I trust that you are trying and are being consistent but you know everything that is happening and why. Then you look at what we know and assume a lot of things can be figured out but what you think can be learned from a subset of the truth and what can be learned in practice are very different. In short you overestimate what we can do with what we have.

Not to mention Yui nit talking to us if she is free and safe is totally unbelievable. Even with your word of god that there is no MC it is still massively out of character and confusing. Even if she is faking and the mask is slipping like some have said that doesn't explain why she wont just talk to us.

>>38613291
>>38613237
There's all different.
Attacking here probably means that either there might end up being a fight right there on the basketball court, or that we'd get CC'd while they fell back.
Agreeing means there'd be a fight scheduled for later.
Refusal is a wildcard, because we still don't know what her game is. There's no reason to assume with certainty that Mai would attack or brainwash Makoto right there on the basketball court.
And attempting to reason is a refusal with a non-hostile alternative proposal tacked on.

>>38613256
Gotta agree, mindcontrolling villains are a delicate thing to handle.

Magical girls who are in control of their corruption and are way stronger than the small fry we had so far, I ciuld have understood.

But magical girls who show up, simply convert everyone we know to their side with a handwave, can manipulate memory and alter personalities via spiritual implants (structures)? No thanks

>>38613485
I 220% agrre with this.

You guys are salty for nothing. It's only temporary, we just need to win and stuff.

>>38613430
This is _completely_ and _absolutely_ in no way related, but wow, that Harry Potter was a hoot, weren't he? Decent wizardry, great friends, was always kept in the loop. He really kept things in order, that Harry Potter, though his phonics could use some work if his grades in Charms class were any indication.

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>>38613430
> Fair enough, I apologise.

>>38613196

"And why the hell would I accept that deal?" You ask, waving your hand to the side angrily. "You're utterly ruthless, you'd do anything to win. At this point, I'm surprised you haven't killed anyone yet!"

"K-Killed-?" She takes a step back in surprise. "There's no need to go that far. I just need to stop you." She reiterates, waving her hands.

"You talk about a fair fight, but isn't it five-to-one?" You point out.

"I don't intend to make you fight your underlings, Makoto," she points back at Yui and Hiroko, "I'm not that way. What I propose are a series of one-on-one battles, only one fighter from each, in the arena outside." She leads you over to a window and points to the stadium flanking the field.

"We fight until one side surrenders, gets knocked out of bounds, or passes out. One fight a day, plenty of time to rest and prepare yourself to fight at full power! Pretty simple." She shrugs. Your glare makes her flinch though.

"And why do you want me to stop being Maiden White? I don't get why you're doing this to me!" You demand to know.

"Because I have to stop you, Makoto, one way another, whatever it takes!" She claims, clenching her fist. That... takes you a second to process.

> I don't care what you have to do. I refuse.
> I think you're confused. Let's just talk this out.
> I'm gonna need a minute here...
> If it means restoring Yui and Hiroko, I'll play along.
> I'll look forward to smashing your face in, Mai.

>>38613558
Book 5 Harry, who was kept out of the loop and felt like he had nobody to turn to, was an annoying bitch of a character, and I will never like him.

>>38613579
>> I don't care what you have to do. I refuse.

>>38613579
>> If it means restoring Yui and Hiroko, I'll play along.
>> I'll look forward to smashing your face in, Mai.

>>38613579
>> I think you're confused. Let's just talk this out.
why do you need to do this. If you just want fame I cant stop helping people but i can try to hide better. Pleas just let my friends go can we work this out?

>>38613579
>*sigh* So you say you want to stop me, whatever it takes...may I ask why? Before I don't know what I'm supposedly doing to you or anyone else, I won't agree to anything. Now, can we talk this out?

>>38613579
>> If it means restoring Yui and Hiroko, I'll play along.
but
>> I'll look forward to smashing your face in, Mai.

>>38613579
> Why do you have to stop me?

>>38613579
> I think you're confused. Let's just talk this out.

Let's not be hasty, let's try and get to the bottom of why she's putting us through this bullshit.

>>38613579
Supporting >>38613636

Negotiation and communication is always good.

>>38613579
"Um, what do you need to stop me from doing? You've kidnapped people, taken away everything that Yui loves, erased people's memories, and hurt my friends. So what have I done to you that justifies any of that?"

>>38613579
>*sigh* So you say you want to stop me, whatever it takes...may I ask why? Before I don't know what I'm supposedly doing to you or anyone else, I won't agree to anything. Now, can we talk this out?

Definitely supporting >>38613630

>>38613636
>>38613673
both of these

>>38613673
this is good we need to make her see what we see. Lets not copy her riddle speak. And keep asking her to make us see her point.

>>38613579
>> I think you're confused. Let's just talk this out.
>> Why do you have to stop me?
>> What do you think I'm doing?
information information information.

>>38613696
Ack, I mislinked, meant I supported >>38613636 rather than >>38613630. The vote was right, though.

>>38613620

>>38613621
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>>38613630
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>>38613716

> Talking it out, using write ins.

Writing.

>>38613673
this
and if she denies hurting people, start listing off every time she did something that harmed someone else.
Don't let her try and turn it back on us

>>38613736
Two possibilities I can think off:

1. Mai wants back the Yui she knew when they were younger. She doesn't understand that Yui took an interest in something so "unnatural" as crossdressing. Now that she has Yui in her grasp, she wants to "protect" her from Makoto.

2. Mai and her friends think that instead of purifying them, Makoto steals their foci's power for himself. Thery think that Makoto wants to be some uber-magical girl or whatever.

>>38613862
addendum: Hiroko's status comment about "emptying out the focus" would support option 2...

Aww crap, do we need to check up on the shrine once we're done?

>>38613939
of course we do. Everyone is against us now

>>38613939
>>38613968

Shit....Momo's just a kid you sick fucks!

>>38613862
Purifying actually removes a core part of the person's personality, essentially rendering them a completely different person pre-purification. Shun is without part of herself, and she wishes to get it back, which is why she's so insistent on getting the foci back.

The magical girls use structures to contain the corruption, essentially acting as self control. They don't revel in excess that their foci caused, but instead confront it and become one with it, accepting it as part of themselves (Think persona 4)

Anyway, from their PoV we are mindraping people, and they are simply trying to fix them. I think that the person that Robo works for has sent a second agent to assist in foci recovery, and that second agent is using these magical girls as pawns to sabotage Robo's efforts and gain favour for himself.

>>38613983
What?

>>38614024
that doesn't make sense. if that's true, why would Yui abandon everything she used to care about? Even if she didn't want to do lewd things anymore because of her newfound self-control, why would she leave the council? If anything, the structures make a larger hole and then fill it with crystal matrices

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>>38613736

You raise a hand to your head and sigh. "So, you say you want to stop me, 'whatever it takes'... may I ask why?" You gesture to her.

"You've kidnapped people, taken away everything that Yui loves, erased people's memories, and hurt my friends; I can't think of anything that could justify that." You insist, glaring at her. She takes your glare and frowns.

"We're not taking memories. Sombre's restoring them, and my focus will be the thing to protect them." She slaps a hand against her chest.

"What?" You flatly ask back to her.

"Your entire power revolves around taking the very heart and soul of a magical girl. You destroy the remnants of our most powerful memories, that which give us the power to defend ourselves and our loved ones, and even steal the very foci from their bodies to be locked up by the very worst of our enemies. Everyone you touch has to rely on you in their weakened state, corrupting them, making them dependant and colouring their perception." She offers a momentary glance back at Yui and Hiroko.

"I'm going to put a stop to that, for the sake of every magical girl out there. I know all it'll take is a touch, but I'm not afraid. I have my focus, and my friends." She waves her hand in the air dramatically. "If Yui can't convince you, then I will defeat you, Maiden White!"

You're... going to need a little longer than a minute to process that.

"Makoto!" You hear Yuuki call out as your three companions burst into the auditorium.

"Mai!" You hear from the other side as the woman in the suit emerges into the room with a small girl trailing behind her. She notices you and, in a flash, covers the distance between the door and Mai.

"Naru~ I was being so cool, you had to come and ruin it!" She whines, hitting the woman on the back. Your group reaches you, out of breath.

"What happened?" Shun asks, glancing at Mai with scorn.

> That's not... true.
> I purify CORRUPTION. You're wrong!
> My head hurts...
> Grab Yui, heal her.
> Attack them.

>>38614282
> My head hurts...
> I purify CORRUPTION. You're wrong!
> PURIFY THEM.

>>38614282
>I purify CORRUPTION. You're wrong!

>>38614282
>Tell Yuuki what Mai said. Ask him if she's right.

>>38614282
> That's not... true.
> My head hurts...
>Tell Yuuki what Mai said. Ask him if she's right.

>>38614282
> That's not... true.
Maybe ask if she remembers what happened to Oomura that made him lose his memories. Or maybe ask her to consider that maybe someone is playing her against you for some other benefit.

>>38614282
"Not true! If anything, I rely on them. I'm nothing without the people around me! I've taken two foci-one from a child who couldn't control herself and was afraid of hurting her sister, and one that I have given my word is going to be returned to Shun! And I don't take memories, I just remove corruption from foci! "

turn away from Mai and to Yui
"Yui, please trust me, let me show them! I...I need you back. Please?"

>>38614440
this

>>38614282
>try to talk to Naru, Mai is clearly too emotionally invested to be honest

Also, restoring memories? Sounds an awful lot like rewriting them to suit their need, a power which can be even more devastating than mind control.

>>38614440
this

>>38614440
I really like this one

>>38614440
this sounds like a good course of action

>>38614440
Trying to think of something better, but I can't. Can we add in asking what about Yui changed? That is kinda nagging at me, given how from our point of view Yui has done a 180 personality wise. That shit doesn't happen overnight like it did.

>>38614440
I'll throw my support behind this one

>>38614440
>>38614627

This is great.

>>38614282
>We're not taking memories
>literally took like 3 people's memories

>>38614468
I'd also like to include >>38614627

>>38614440
>>38614468
>>38614529
>>38614553
>>38614558
>>38614627
>>38614629
>>38614650
>>38614695

>>38614652
> She means in a broad sense, and also believes corruption is literally the physical manifestation of memories, but fair enough you got me there.

Sounds like there's a consensus.

All of this just makes me want to hurt Mai more

>>38614440
I'll support this.

When we met Yui, she was already her pervy self, so if mai and her faction didnt cause this, and we didnt cause this, there must be a third force at work here.
Foreshadowing?

>no rolling
Not sure if good or very, very bad for us

>>38614840
based on Yui's doubts I'm expecting good for her but extremely bad when it comes to the psychotic duo and probably Hiroko. Honestly I'll just be happy if we're able to leave with Yui

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>>38614716

"That's not true!" You shout back at her. Naru glares at you, still standing between you and Mai.

"If anything, I rely on them. I'm nothing without the people around me!" You insist. "I've taken two foci; one from a child who couldn't control herself and was afraid of hurting her sister, and one that I have given my word is going to be returned to Shun! I don't take memories, I just remove corruption from foci!"

"What's so corrupt about embracing your true self?" Mai shouts back, leaning over Naru's shoulder. "Of course we're afraid of our powers, but only by overcoming them will we ever hope to get any stronger. Our pain defines us, it makes us stronger!" She claims. You can't help but think back what Yui asked you about whether she should embrace Strict Ebony or not. If Mai's claiming not to be the villain you think, why are they creating gaps in people's memory and why is Yui's personality taking a 180? You turn to her, taking your vision away from Mai.

"Yui, please, you have to trust me. Let me show them! I..." you take a strained breath, "I need you back. Please?" You beg. She stares at you, her eyes wide and lip quivering. Hiroko looks at her with concern as she shakes. Hesitantly, she takes a step towards you, but Mai quickly moves between you and her.

"I might not be Yui's friend anymore, but I still care about her." She says, frowning at you. "I'm not letting you near her."

> Fight.
> Why don't we let her decide?
> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?
> You're wrong, Mai. Trust me on this.

>>38615006
> Why don't we let her decide?
> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?

>>38615006
>And yet you're offering her up as a prize?
>I'm not going to hurt her and you guys are right there to see what I'm doing.

>>38615006
>> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?

>>38615006
>> You're wrong, Mai. Trust me on this.

>>38615006
>>38615044

this but reversed.

>>38615006
Completely ignore Mai
Gently hold out our hand
"Please Yui. I don't want to fight anyone, please come back. I love you, you know I'd never hurt you. Help me stop this"

>>38615006
> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?
> You say pain defines you, but what about the pain we cause others? How does define us, and the victims? Is it right to harm others, or erase their memories, just for the sake of becoming stronger? When does might stop making right?

>>38615006
>> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?

>>38615006
> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?
> While showing everybody our fight?
> For a game to prove your greatness?
> Why don't we let her decide?

Now that I think about it Yui never did fully trust Robo.

>>38615044
>>38615074
>>38615090
>>38615155
>>38615163
>>38615190

> And yet you're offering her as a prize wins.

Are we fine with incorporating text from these two?
>>38615120
>>38615155

>>38615200
But only because Robo is a machine and doesn't play with open cards.

>>38615006
"Mai, I'm not going to harm her. Just trust me, let me and Yui show you. If you still think I'm hurting them afterward, I won't resist. But please, let me help one of the women I love before anybody gets hurt."

>>38615006
>how then does an unbound foci have a true self as it DID have corruption?

>>38615257
I'm for >>38615155

>>38615006
>> Why don't we let her decide?
>> And yet you're offering her up as a prize?

Isn't the corruption able to come back during high tension anyway? before our date with yui, we were nearly in a tentacles situation. still holding out for consentacles

>>38615257
I'm okay with it.

>>38615257
seems legit

>>38615295
consentacles are love
consentacles are life

>>38615257
I'd rather include >>38615269 over>>38615120
but I'm fine with including things

>>38615257
Seems good enough.

>>38615295
consentacles soon. but we need to get Saito and Yuuki in the harem first, so Yui can take all three of us while we're crossdressing

>>38615257
Sure

>>38615295
>>38615403
Consentacles is a concept that I have never fathomed before in my life. I am not opposed to them.

>>38615512
Oh, yeah, it's like one of the oldest /d/ standbys. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet considering Ebony Strict's literal tentacle powers.
there's too few traps and consentacles media, so I'll take any oc I can get.

>>38615257
yeah, go for it.

>>38615606
it would've if the corruption didn't come up and make it all rape-y

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>>38615483
you. I like you

>>38615257

"And yet you're offering her up as a prize?" You shoot back. Mai's eyes widen and she twitches before looking down in shame.

"Whatever it takes..." She mutters before steeling herself and glaring at you again.

"You say pain defines you, but what about the pain we cause others? How does that define us, and the victims?" You ask her. She bites her lip. "Is it right to harm others, or erase their memories, just for the sake of becoming stronger? When does might stop making right?" You demand to know. Mai takes a step back and considers your words.

"I'm not going to hurt her, and don't want to fight anyone. Please just let me help one of the women I love." You pass by Mai as she's still reeling and walk up to the silver-haired girl.

"I love you, Yui, you know I'd never hurt you. Please come back to me, to us." You tell her, holding out your hand. Yui stares down for a second but takes a deep breath and leans in to embrace you.

"I love you too, Makoto. I regret everything I said before, please don't corrupt!" She says tearfully. She was trying to... corrupt you? Although that does make sense; you naturally resist corruption but if enough were to affect you at once...

You put those thoughts out of your mind for now; once you've dealt with these three you can properly cure her. Mai stares at the two of you with Naru and the other one, a small girl clutching at Mai's skirt, still at her side. Hiroko stands by, still torn.

> Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?
> Do you believe me yet?
> Hiroko, I'm sorry but believe me I'm right about corruption.
> I accept your challenge, I will prove you wrong.
> The prize is gone, I refuse your challenge.

>>38615697
> Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?

That's a fucking good question.

>>38615697
>> Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?

>>38615697
>> Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?

>>38615697
>why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai.
>Hiroko, even with structure keeping her corruption in check...you saw the mindless Berserker Glory was becoming. Even if you don't trust me, please trust your own eyes.

>>38615697
> Do you believe me yet?
> We don't need to be enemies, we can work this out peacefully. No one needs to get hurt.

>>38615653
>You can't rape me, I consent!
but yeah, what a shame. next time though.

>>38615697
>Write in: let's talk more about what's going on.

hmm, if their plan was to corrupt us, uh, doesn't that seem really ill advised considering our power and the destruction it tends to cause? Surely our purification power resists corruption, and if it did corrupt, wouldn't be absurdly dangerous? like Kriemhild Gretchen dangerous?

>>38615697
Cuddle the Yui for a minute, murmuring about how worried we were. after a little bit,
>Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?
> Hiroko, I'm sorry but believe me I'm right about corruption. Do you remember how crazy Glory went?

>>38615697
>Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?

Better not say the prize is gone. Hiroko is still up for grabs.

>>38615697
>>38615782
>>38615807
Seconding

>>38615782
>>38615807
these

oh thank god the mind control bullshit's all done with

>>38615807
>>38615782

These are really good suggestions.

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>>38615735
>>38615755
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>>38615801
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>>38615807
>>38615825
>>38615828
>>38615865
>>38615893

>Why Mai, Why?

Writing.

>>38615804
it wasn't the forcefulness that made it rape-y, it was violation of trust that we could opt out if bad touch happened or that she wouldn't do anything bad touch in the first place

>>38615999
We gotta figure out how to bring up the idea of consentacles to her for the next time anyway. She doesnt really hang out with her powers active.
>Hey, wanna do it, except you activate your powers and I dont?
it's only a little bit less daring than going about town with an egg in.

Shit, is Yui's brother here for this? Is he utterly fucking confused?

>>38616067
"Is that a Foci in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"

>>38616084
I can only imagine that the entire stadium is staring at us right now.

>>38615890
It ain't over yet. We still don't know the motives behind all this. The mystery of what caused Mai to think that Makoto's purification is harmful and Robo's faction are an enemy, and the question of the purpose behind the memory gaps, are still unsolved.
That said, I'm still in the "there was never any mind control" camp, myself.

>>38616182
I hate going to this site, but it fits pretty well
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreThanMindControl

>>38616084
does he think his sister is in lesbians with us?

>>38616441
well he's not completely wrong

>>38616084
>>38616116
>>38616441
>>38616485

Good point. We really need to explain some shit to him once we find the time. But at this rate, I'm not sure how biased our explanation is with all this damn secrecy about.

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>>38615941

You take the moment to embrace Yui, glad to feel her warmth against you once more. "For a while there, I wasn't sure if I'd be able to hold you in my arms again." You tell her. She grips you tightly, burying her face in your shirt. Shun wipes some tears from her eyes and Yuuki sighs in relief. Naoki is still trying to figure out what's going on if the blank expression on his face is anything to go by. That goes double for the rest of the people in the basketball court. You've been talking in riddles for the past five minutes from their perspective. You offer Hiroko a quick look, and she takes a step back.

"Hiroko, you know I'm right about corruption." You insist to her. "Even with a Structure keeping it in check, Glory was still a mindless berserker. Whether or not you trust me doesn't matter, but you should certainly trust what you've seen with your own eyes." You argue to her. She furrows her brow in thought but ultimately glares at you.

"Glory didn't know what she was doing, Mai and her friends do. I know what happened to Saito after you purified him, and they're the only ones who know how to help him." She answers back, circling around you towards the three. "I'm sorry, but ignoring this problem isn't going to make it go away. I... I need to do something, I can't just sit back and expect you to fix everything."

"Hiroko-" Your words seem to be lost on her; she's made up her mind. You grit your teeth and turn back to Mai.

"Why did you tell Yui to corrupt me, Mai?" You ask plainly, leering at her.

"We-"

"Mai had nothing to do with it - it was all my idea." Naru says, interrupting her. The woman adjusts the glasses on her head clinically, regarding you with a stern glare. "You've never known an awakening before... I thought that if you experienced one it might convince you of your own error." She explains. The two beside her give a concerned glance at Naru.

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>>38616627

"It was either that, or find some way of stopping you from ever being able to use your powers on another girl. We can't remove foci like you can, nor would we ever want to." Her glasses glint with conviction. "Mai thought you'd be honourable enough to agree to her tournament, but I knew you'd never consent to something fuelled by pride, but she went ahead with it anyway. Sometimes her own ego is big enough to block out her vision."

"Oi, oi." Mai murmurs, waving her hand.

"Mai; take Jun and Hiroko away from here, we've already lost Yui to him and I doubt we'll be getting her back until he's dealt with." She insists, pointing towards the exit.

"No way, if you're fighting I'm staying here!" Mai insists.

"Y-Yeah." The girl repeats. The two of them glance at Hiroko, who flinches.

"Uhm, I-I don't want to fight Makoto. I just want to-"

"None of you are fighting him. If he tries to purify any of you..." She clenches her fist tightly, and you feel a strange rumbling in the air. The players on the court tumble as their backsetballs start to jitter and move unnaturally in the air. "He's going to have to get through me." She seethes, planting her hell on the ground. She glares back at the three girls and they exchange looks for a moment.

"Ngh, fine. But you better come back, Naru." Mai begrudgingly accepts, and leads both Hiroko and Jun to the door.

> After them!
> If that's what you want... *fight*
> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
> Why are you defending her?
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?

>>38616693
Sorry 'pretending to be honourable', not acting.

>>38616693
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?

>>38616693
>> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?
> If that's what you want... *fight*

>>38616627
> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
>Why didn't you just try to convince me of my "error" with words and reason first? Why all the shadowy stuff?
>Say, what do you think the origin of foci are, anyway?

>>38616693
>I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
> Why are you defending her?
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?

>>38616693
>I said I'm not going to hurt anyone
>If you know how to help Saito so he can regain his normal form.

>>38616693

> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?
>I have yet to see or hear a valid argument from any of you on this.

For some reason I want to run the whole thing past Hana and see what she thinks of these girls trying to corrupt Makoto this way.

>>38616693
>> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
>> Write in: Tell me what this awakening is, If you don't want to be purified maybe you can convince me?

>>38616693
>>38616780
>>38616793
> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
>Why didn't you just try to convince me of my "error" with words and reason first? Why all the shadowy stuff?
>Do you know how to help Saito so he can regain his normal form?

>>38616693
> You think acting honorable excuses for any of this?
>If you know how to help Saito, please can you give him normal form.

>>38616780
this, plus
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?

>>38616693
>> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
> You think acting honourable excuses for any of this?
>i'll grant that i messed up with glory's magic, but i didn't know what was going on either and i need to end the fight quickly

>>38616853
> I said I'm not going to hurt anyone.
dammit. I'm sure Makoto has some idea why she is helping them.

>>38616693
Can we ask her what she means by "awakening" and all? Sounds like it's just a euphemism for corruption.

>>38617167
Yeah that sounds like a good idea.

>>38617167
I like that idea. Hope we have time to ask it.

>>38617167
All these hints of Maiden Black....I hope she has one of those noblewoman laughs.

>>38617247
i'm hoping for more of a silent fury type

>>38617167
Second

>>38617332
That's Maiden Red

>>38617247
>>38617332
And I'm left wondering if she'll keep the whole switching genders thing due to identity or stay constant.

FE6 Hard Mode, FE7 HHM, FE4, FE5, FE11 or FE12, /feg/?

>>38616719
>>38616780
>>38616791
>>38616793
>>38616808
>>38616830
>>38616843
>>38616853
>>38616861
>>38616873
>>38617160

Oop, I have been writing but I'll put this down now.

>>38617354
i picture that as more frothing rage

>>38617354
>The concept of us being split into colors, and all were left is with an impotent 120% female white version that is scared and needs to hold someones hand.

>>38617247
Don't we have it on good authority that it would be one of the most dangerous characters possible in the setting?
the qm's trip is qyubey, it could mean Kriemhild Gretchen style earth is destroyed in 10 days type deal?

>>38617401
Scared maiden white would be Maiden Yellow

>>38617401
eh, we could have had the crushing nihilism and depression of Maiden Blue

>>38617401
Well, White is one of the most easy colours to corrupt or alter with any other colour. Black stays black no matter what colours you mix with.

>>38617429
You mean like the Yellow Lanterns?

>>38617401
The smutty and dere dere Maiden Pink.

>>38617401
The hyper, happy and curious maiden Orange

>>38617401
Greedy Maiden Orange

>>38617399
>>38617429
>>38617471
>>38617481
Might as well make them into a damn Lantern corps....

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>>38617383
"I already said I'm not going to hurt anyone." You tell Naru. She just furrows her brow and maintains her stance, keeping a close eye on you as Mai and the others escape through the auditorium door. You let go of Yui and stand opposite to the woman. She adjusts her glasses.

"So what, you think the fact that you pretended to set up this honourable battle excuses all the subterfuge up till now?" You ask her. "I've yet to hear a valid justification for what you've done."

"I don't need to justify anything to you. As long as I can keep Mai and Jun safe, I don't care what anyone thinks about me. I'll shoulder any burden, the way she's shouldered so much for me." She states simply. "Whatever it takes..." She repeats with a sigh. Mai kept saying that as well.

"You couldn't just try and convince me plainly?" You ask. "I met one of you in the rain and explained this, but she just ran."

"We couldn't afford to take that risk, not when your purification could mean the loss of our souls." She replies, referring to your removal of dangerous foci. "All the awakenings we've experienced, gone in an instant. I wouldn't allow such a thing to even be possible."

"By awakening, you mean when corrupted girls go insane, right?"

"I suppose that's what it looks like to you. You call it corruption of a pure foci, but we call it our awakening. If you can experience that, overcome it, and learn to surmount it, you can access the powerful emotions of that form in a controlled manner. Structuring helps to keep everything docile until you really need the power." She explains, but you have figured out the gist of this earlier. "It's a beautiful thing that you seek to destroy. I don't see how you can call yourself a magical girl with an outlook like that." She growls.

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