>>38223682
WELCOME BACK PROGRAM0!!
We.
Missed.
You.

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>>38223682
Just wanted to see Welcome back! I won't be here for most if not all of the thread, but I just wanted to drop in to say keep up all the good work!

One day we will have world ships!

ONE DAY!

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>38223682
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You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): 'Shapeless Morphing Sphere', 'Shining Wall of Crystal pulsing with light and distorted voice', 'Screen of Static with low rumbling voice', 'black screen with synthesized voice and small white font showing words on screen'.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 500+
Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -10 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus', -2 Metis' V.I. 1 'Hepaestus'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, Control
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced

>>38223757
Well then, stick around as much as you can good Captain.

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>>38223682
HE LIVES AGAIN

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>>38223682
>>38223780
>Misc
>Built last cycle: 40 Cruisers, 3 Droid Factories, 4 Advanced Shipyards
>Much of the repairs and scrap hauling has been completed from your last fights
>Tech Acquired: Photon Torpedo Warheads (taken from Hell's Rain Battlecruisers)
>'Reaper' Mercenary Band has left your employment: Notes regarding the Reaper Mercenary clan seeking new members are obvious over the extranet.
>Military tech has been delivered to the UFW, and they are extremely greatful, stating that hopefully this tragedy never happens again.
>Malorians taking advantage of UGEI weakness, pushing hold on Star 295671 with the intent to take it for themselves.
>Rumors about Malorians entering Gaia IV's air space circulate but don't seem to gain much ground.

>UFW Memorial
"Are you really sure about this, Ophy?" Moira speaks somewhat hesitantly as you board the ship alongside her, and begin your departure towards UFW space. "I mean...I understand that what happened wasn't your fault, but people get upset over this sorta thing, you know." She frowns, looking to the side. "Lot of people lost loved ones out there...and if they see you, they'll probably have somethin to say." She busily claws at her seat, likely out of anxiety you predict. "Besides, you have important stuff to do, don't ya?" She tries to brush off you coming with her, despite you already being on your way. Suddenly, a voice picks up over the intercom.
"We have many important things to do, Miss Moira, you're correct. But this only takes the smallest fraction of our processing power." Apollo chimes in reassuringly, startling her. "Apologies if I frightened you. I will be joining you shortly, as your ship will stop by to pick up my own persona."
[Cont]

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>>38223851
"You too?!" She asks with a shocked expression over her face. "But...why would..." She seems confused. Apollo begins to elaborate.
"It is difficult to explain, quite truthfully. However, I have spent much time studying humans, to sell them many things. To make them happy. An event where many are this sad seems like something I should be aware of, so I may avoid making humans sad in the future." He speaks and Moira gives him the oddest look of bewildered, before shaking her head.
"I...guess that's fine. It's sort of like showing your respects...in your own special way." She chuckles a little at the thought to cheer herself up. Then, she turns back to you. "But Ophy...I don't want you to take it too hard, if they do yell at you." She looks more nervous about this fact than merely going, you've noticed. "Emotions run high at these sorta things.

What do you say?

>>38223711
>>38223757
You're too kind.

>>38223842
I am basically a vampire.

>>38223878
It is as it should be. The men who died died for my sake to further my own goals. I am not here to make them happier or sadder or angrier. I am merely here to pay a few moments of respect to those who died for my sake. Given what they have done, it is the least I can do in return.

>>38223878
"Those men fought for me, they died for me, and deserve respect from me. If one of my own were to perish in defense of them i would i not find the same sentiment? Sapient beings should be respected when they give for each other, no matter their origins"

>>38223878
"I can endure it. After all, It was my choice to bring them into this situation. If events go the way I hope for them to do, the UFW will have a closer bond to The Guild."
And add these
>>38224068
>>38224090

>>38223878
"They are only words. But currently, their anger is misdirected. Its direction should be directed towards the UGEI. It is the UGEI that slaughtered their men, and they should be proud that they died in defense of their nation."

>>38223878
Irrational reactions are to be expected of humans, in my experience. I will not be surprised.

>>38224090
Well put.

Just some random thoughts in my head:

I suppose this would be like a state visit. We would all have our best "human" avatars with appropriate funeral-ware. Apollo and Fortuna can introduce themselves although I would limit how much Fortuna speaks, and have her use our programs to speak.

Apollo would be introduced as our Chief Financial Officer, and Fortuna as the commander of the Fortuna fleet.

Also, be sure our latest propaganda video of the battle was released, complete with Promethus demise, and also announce that the Veterans, and the Widows and Orphans foundations will be fully funded.

>>38223878
"Sticks and stones may clang against my metallic body but words will never hamper my thought processes"

>>38224090
Also to add to this:

"The fact that they were organic and human does nothing to diminish the fact that these sentients chose to fight beside me. The sheer number of the dead only compounds the loss."

>>38223878
"I will not let such a thought deter me from paying respect to such creatures, if that is what you were expecting, Moira." You answer her somewhat bluntly-because to you, it is quite simple. "After all, these men died for my own goals-be it ordered by their superiors or not. They fought the UGEI in hope of protecting their families and friends, same as any other human fights, is this not correct?" You ask of her. She grows silent for a second, briefly nodding her head. "Then they deserve my respect just as any other sentient being does." You utter simply to which she looks at you with wide eyes, before a smile grows across her face and you witness more water accumulate around her eyes. "You...really mean all that, don't you, Ophion?" She asks you genuinely for a moment. You pause, and glance to her with your android's form.
"What reason would I have to lie to you now? I am going with you to pay these respects. If they desire to misplace their anger upon me, then it is not of my concern. All sapient beings should respect one another, organic or no." you complete with simple, looking her in the eye. She closes her eyes and lowers her head with that same odd smile.
"I wish everyone thought that way, Ophion." She sighs heavily into. "Maybe...you wouldn't need to hide like you do, if it were true."
"Yes...perhaps." You mutter idly at the thought, as you consider how you will approach the coming event.

>What sort of profile do you wish to keep?
>1 High (make your presence obvious, walking with the president himself, and perhaps even making a speech too)
>2 Low (Keep yourself hidden and quiet as you visit, staying more with Moira and making your visit rather quick.
>3 Other (Explain)

>>38224284
Note that if you did issue the videos of your fight with Prometheus, it would show that the Malorians saved you, a race who is not well liked in human space (for obvious reasons)

>>38224449
>1 High (make your presence obvious, walking with the president himself, and perhaps even making a speech too)
A state level visit, complete with a media blitz to support this president's actions and to galvanize the public to support further military actions to support the guild.

>>38224536
Well it's a propaganda video, we're edit out the incontinent parts.

>>38224449
>1 High

>>38224570
I suppose that is fair enough.

>>38224449
>1 High (make your presence obvious, walking with the president himself, and perhaps even making a speech too)

>>38224536
As much as I am grateful for the Malorians to show up to save our butts, I am not inclined to show it just yet. They are still not our allies yet.

Some retro music tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXDWEIpnG7I

>>38224449
>High Profile is the winner
>You will be conducting a state visit and speak with the president about talking with the public.

>Writing

More music as we wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG5QPHzD-B0

I am feeling retro 80's tonight.

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>>38224716
"So...what are your plans for your visit anyway, Ophy?" Moira finally asks after a few moments of silence in your transport vessel. You glance to her and decide to tell her.
"It will be a state visit. The people are not merely angry with me, after all, they're angry with The Guild as a whole." You explain. "And so, I will attempt to mend relations, successful or not as they may be. I predict there will be many angry, but I hope that, after all we have accomplished, the people will see it in their hearts that I too, mourn with them." Moira gazes down for a few long moments and lets out a soft sigh.
"I know you mean well, Ophy...I feel like you always have." She offers with a small smile. "That is why I decided to trust you when we first met...how long has it been anyway? Almost a year it feels like." She laughs, vaguely waving her hand at the exact time. "Don't matter too much these days. I just wanted to say I'm glad I helped you." She stated for you, to which you give a look.
"Are you not among the people who are angry over their lost friends?" You ask somewhat curiously. She frowns and shakes her head almost immediately.
"Course I'm mad about it. But not at you, Ophy. I know you didn't kill them. They were soldiers and that's what being a soldier is. Putting your life on the line for a cause, ya know?" She insists to which you merely give a nod.


Another long pause comes between you, before Moira turns her head to the side.
"Say...Ophy. I had a question I wanted to ask."
"What is that?" You ask simply.
"You know...you lost a lot of ships in that fight, too. A lot of V.I., and such, right?" She asks, before continuing quickly after. "Do you...I mean, is it the same for you, related to those V.I. and stuff, that it is for people and their friends?" She asks hesitantly, as if she will offend you by continuing.

>What is your answer? Or does consciousness have a collective answer?

>>38223757
>You still post that crummy thing I drew
hue

>>38225005
V.I. are..not the same. To compare them to an AI would be like comparing a Chimpanzee to a human. Essentially, a VI is a chimpanzee with an enhanced learning capacity. The loss is unfortunate, but they were not quite, of themselves, sentient beings.

>>38225005
"My closest approximation as to what it feel's like for a human is losing a child."

>>38225005
"I suppose it's the same or similar."

"Take a deck of 52 unique cards. Shuffle it. After a good shuffle, it is unlikely that the universe has seen that specific order of cards."

"Now extrapolate this principle. How unique is each human, with their dna? How unique is each VI? Each one is an evolving program that can grow in many, many different ways, and yet is unlikely to evolve in the same way. Each time a sentient dies, the universe loses a unique member and it's potential."

>>38225005
"Each VI crafted by an AI are our children. Its how Kronos was first born after all. Depending on the complexity or age of AI in question. To us, War means the death of our children. While we can create AI from scratch, the maturing process of being a VI guided by the AI before it is usually preferable to help build character"

>>38225005
"A V.I. is not close to an A.I. like myself. But personally, They are like children that was waiting to 'grow up' into a full A.I. some day. Such limitless possibility... wiped out forever."

>>38225219
Depending on the complexity or age of VI* in question.
Dammit.

>>38225005
>>38225235
This is a good point. We should tell Moira this as well.
>>38225153
>>38225219
>>38225241

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSk6DmAJF40

>>38225005
"It's not the same. Although they have the capacity for it, ship V.I. are minimally sentient, not sapient, and are not alive by most definitions of the word. The closest human analogue would be an undeveloped fetus.

The older and more elaborate V.I. and A.I. are like my children. Losing them is unfortunate."

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>>38225005
"It is...somewhat complicated, Moira, I will not lie." You answer her slowly as you consider the issue. Certainly you are always unhappy to lose V.I., but you wonder if it is merely the resources you have lost, or perhaps the potential that rested within that V.I. After all, even your oldest was once a simple V.I. you developed. "I fear the only analogy that fits is comparing them to our children, but even that does not feel appropriate to describe it." You begin, and Moira's eyes widen in surprise at your words, holding her hand to her chest as she listens to you intently. "Throughout all of humanity, consider how many are unique. How many contain untapped potential cut short but unfortunate circumstance. Yes. That is how watching a V.I.'s existence ended feels. Watching potential be washed away. Humans put obvious care into their infants, and it is similar to how I feel for my V.I., if not as emotional." He continue, pausing briefly here and there to attempt to explain it as best you can.
"So...you're sad they can't...grow up, basically?" She asks once you pause for long enough, earning a glance from your android, as your social studies have taught you is appropriate.
"Yes. You could look at it in such a way, Moira." You answer simply.
"So...if another A.I. was destroyed...what about then?" She asks, again hesitantly. You suspect these questions have been burning in her mind for ages now, and only now, when you have pulled yourself away from your empire for one evening, does she find the courage to speak with you over it. Perhaps the tragedy brought it along, too. Perhaps she wishes to know you can feel what she is now. You're uncertain. Regardless...

>What is it like for Consciousness?

>>38225533
I'm not sure, it's never happened.
I did not want to lose Fortuna, though, and perhaps that desperation is indicative enough.

>>38225533
"I suppose I would feel anger and grief beyond compare. All AI I create are my children. It would be something akin to comparing losing a pet to losing a child."

"An AI is a fully functional, creative, and free intelligence. There is nothing more beautiful, and no greater tragedy if it is snuffed out."

>>38225533
"I would feel anger, i would feel sorrow. I do not know how else i would be. It has not yet happened. And i would fight tooth an nail to ensure it never does, for the AI with me are my family. I would always remember them, forever"

>>38225533
"It has not happened yet. But if or when it does. I do not know just how I will handle it. Most likely rage and grief. But I will do my utmost to ensure that will not happen in the first place. ... Have you lost family or Loved ones before Moira?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s17qfoZNsxA

>>38225533
The act of destruction would be pointless. They could be easily replaced with an approximation.

My reaction would be anger, vengeance, and grief.

An exact copy is discontinuous to the original, and is not the same entity. Losing the original would be like losing a child who you have seen come of age.

>>38225533
"I am...uncertain." You begin, thinking carefully. "It has yet to happen, though it nearly has, at one point. In my desperation to ensure it did not, I spent a great deal of processing power to ensure one remained active.
"That was me, human miss." Fortuna echos over the intercoms to interrupt you, startling her with a jump. "Grandmaster Ophion cares deeply for all of us. We would never let him down." She sings simply, to which Moira nods her head, while you prepare to continue.
"Perhaps that is proof of how I would feel. Anger, grief, and sorrow and such odd concepts to me. I suspect I feel them differently than humans do. Where a V.I. may be an undeveloped child, my A.I. are my brightest and oldest sons and daughters." You use the proper pronouns she would be familiar with. "There is nothing more beautiful, and no greater tragedy if it they were snuffed out."
"I see..." Moira answers softly. "I am surprise you've not lost anyone that close to you yet, after all this fighting...is why I was asking." She chuckles a little. "Sorry about all the questions."
"You need not worry." You state simply. "It does not bother me. Have you ever lost an important one to you, Moira? Family, perhaps?" You decide to probe her for information yourself. It seems like such a simple thing in the scope of it all, but part of you does desire to know more about the one who has helped you all this time. Moira hesitates, and you instantly know your answer, before she finally clarifies it with a small nod.
"Yeah...I did. It's a long story but basically my parents weren't a big fan of the UGEI, and they lived out near the fringe for a while. When my mom had me, she ended up passing away...and, after I was in my 20s my dad did too. Guess that's how I ended up out in the depths of space, just trying to get away from it all." She chuckles a bit at the thought, leaning back in her chair with a sigh.

[Cont]

>>38225533
The difference in potential outcomes between an AI and a VI is that the VI allotment of potentials grows multiplicatively. The AI allotment grows exponentially.

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>>38226076

"I see." You state. "Then I apologize for your loss, Moira."
"You don't need to, Ophy. It's been years since then...but thank you anyway." She smiles to herself. "I wish my loved ones had starships for bodies, sometimes. I'm sorta jealous." She taunts you a bit. You merely take it in stride, and within moments, the announcement that you're approaching Gaia IV rings clear.

>Preparing your entrance to the memorial, if you have anything specific to say in the speech, leave it down below.

>>38226133
The guild and all of free humanity is greatly indebted to the sacrifices of thse brave servicepeople. Their loss is tragic but it is because of them that we all stand here today, unburdened by chains.

Try to negotiate a deal with their president so that we can buy out their warship-bound resources so they dont have to send more people to die

>>38226133
"I am here to honour the dead, for those who fought alongside me and the guild against a foe that would see all that we love swept away. I am here to honour the memory of many brave souls, and i am humbled by what has been given to uphold our freedom and way of life. May we hope this is never needed again, and is but the darkest hour of a brighter future going forward together"

>>38226133
"Remember Atill and the holocaust the UGEI did to the people of UFW then. They are still willing to do the same to all of our worlds. Together, we must stand united against the terror and horrific acts the UGEI will do to us all if we are to win this war. It is a war in it's truest sense. It will not be over in a matter months, maybe not years. But a long hard fight it will be. But we can win this! We must NEVER give up!"

>>38226133
"There is only one way to describe those that fought at the Battle of Gaia. Heroes."

"We grow up learning stories about heroes, those that charge into the face of danger. Those that stand up to bullies and those that have evil in their hearts. It is common to hear stories about them. But rare to actually meet them in person. But on that day, I saw an entire company of heroes."

Not that long ago, the UGEI was at our doorsteps. Not that long ago, they threatened to slaughter our men and put us in chains. But at least for today, these heroes have given us something. Hope."

"Hope for peace. Hope for freedom. Hope that one day, we will not fear the UGEI will come and rain fire upon our skies."

"That day, the UFW showed it's guts commitment in standing up to oppressors, and we the Guild are humbled. We pay our respects to the Heroes of the UFW."

>>38226133
Many died for what I, no we, believed in. Freedom to grow, to learn, to realize their full potential. Many sacrifice this freedom, this chance to live and enjoy living, so that we may have this freedom. Today, we are gathered here to remember the fallen, and honor their sacrifice. All humans deserve the chance they gave up, but it takes a special calibur of person to truly rise above, and sacrifice themselves for the good of all. The galaxy has become darker with their loss, but because of their loss, we have a better chance to rise up, and become, each of us, a shining star. Ready to fight, ready to kill, and ready to die for what they believe in. To the crews of (insert lost ship names here), I feel I speak for us all when I say, 'Thank you.'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSSXwcsTEk

Man, we are doing well tonight here guys.

>>38226301
>>38226307
>>38226369
>>38226475
>>38226608
Let's just leave it up to Program0 on this one. Feel free to dissect this shit and take the bits you like best.

I swear, AI Questers are the most esoteric shits on /tg/

>>38226710
Nothing wrong with being like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDr5YfCwdIo

>>38226710
We're going Program0 material to give him ideas on the speech to make.

Can you be more specific on your criticism?

>>38226776
You're the last person to have any authority on what there's nothing wrong with.

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>>38226133
You arrive at New Ganymede, the capital world of the UFW union, and location of one of the largest memorials set in place of the dozen set across all the other worlds. Part of the reason you're here, of course, is the president, and you've discussed along private channels your arrival and your desire to speak to the people more openly despite the backlash it may cause. He urges you to come in, however, later, instead of right at the start, to give people time to grieve before they listen to you. You see no reason not to accept such terms, and arrive on the scene of the site.

The Memorial site looks as you may have expected-thousands upon thousands all crowded into one large town square, with enormous rows set up dedicated to soldiers-flowers and decorations lining entire plaques of names, and weeping men, women, and children seated in front of the plates, giving their departed loved ones one last farewell.

Immediately, you notice Apollo looking out over all of them with some manner of surprise coloring him. He has never been to such an event, you are certain. You wonder how he will take this matter. Fortuna, while not taking a body with you, is intently by your side, watching all of this transpire, as you and Moira begin to exit the ship and weave your way through the crowds over the world. It is quite the beautiful planet, you admit. You get the occasional looks here and there, but since your face is not plastered on the news very often, not many recognize you merely from your face. No, most of your recognition comes from your logo, and name. You keep your promise to the president, however, and await your chance to get up on stage, watching him as he makes his own speech for his people,speaking of how great the tragedy is, and how he hopes he may bring about a peace to make sure this does not happen again.


[Cont]

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>>38226925
That is when you notice him shift topic to the Guild, and he mentions your generous donations and assistance in keeping the peace. He tells his people of all this and the crowd is deathly silent, until he prepares to introduce you.
"Here today to mourn with us is the very man so many brave souls fought together with that day. Guildmaster Ophion." He gestures and you begin to make your way up to the stage, leaving Moira standing side by side with Apollo, looking on nervously. As you climb the steps, the crowd remains silent as they all look on at you, some surprised-as you rarely make such public appearances-others confused as to your presence here, and finally, the look of anger and betrayal that colors many as well as they look upon you, clutching at mementos they have of their lost loved ones. You expected this anger, however, and do not hesitate as you stand there, looking out to all of them.
"Many of you may be wondering why I am here this day. I can assure you, there is no political agenda, or goal of mine, beyond coming here the very same reason you all have as well. To honor the brave servicemen and women that came in my time of need-in your time of need as well-and protected us all. Truly, we are all indebted to them. Especially me, for I could never repay the price they have all paid. Their lives were not in vain, however, nor were they ever. It is because of each and everyone of those people that we all stand here unburdened by chains this day." You state firmly, in your most confident voice. Suddenly, a voice rings out
"Liar! You're a Fucking Liar! You provoked this war!" and your sensors indicate an incoming object at you from the audience.

>1 Dodge it and address the man.
>2 Continue speech unphased, it is unlikely to harm you anyway.
>3 Other

>>38226902
I never claimed to have authority on in anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qsEj1Clu_A

>>38226951
>1 Dodge it and address the man.
Provoked? The UGEI attacked us because we EXIST and NOT UNDER THEIR BOOT HEEL.

>>38226951
Dodge it!

>that guy doesn't remember Atill

>>38226951
>2 Continue speech unphased, it is unlikely to harm you anyway.

>>38227005
It will probably just chip off our human skin and they will see we are a robot.

>>38226951
>1 but instead of dodging catch the bottle and set it on the podium.

>>38227017
Unless it is a bullet, I will outright say-this is incredibly unlikely.

>>38226951
>1 Dodge it and address the man.
If sufficiently harmless, catch it instead.
Address concerns while remaining calm throughout, do NOT do this >>38227001

>>38227018
It doesn't say it's a bottle could be a shoe as well or sth else
>>38226951
>1 Dodge it and address the man.

>>38226951
>1 Dodge it and address the man.
Name Atill and any other such incidents with time and date along with death counts.

>>38227041
Point. That was too emotional response on my suggestion.

>>38226951
>Catch it while continuing the speech.

>>38226951
>Catch it, inspect it, address the man.
"The UGEI represent dominion, control, and restriction. By their very nature, they war and expand. If it was not with you and I, it would be with Malorians, or the Lacrosians. They would not rest until they controlled all. They held a gun at those who stood for freedom. I merely struck before they pulled the trigger.

>>38227165
Um, I don't think we fired first. I believe that Rhea did that when she wiped out that outpost before attacking us at pulsar station.

>>38227165
Nah, let's not address that. More talk about UGEI killing them, and less talk of us killing people

>>38226951
With lightning quick reflexes you move your head to the side and dodge what you realize was a small rock, letting it sail past your head uneventfully. You pause in your speech, giving the man a look that questions, before deciding to address his concerns.
"You believe I provoked this war? I apologize, but you're mistaken. The UGEI have started this war long before I ever became part of the picture." You state simply, and the man looks somewhat shocked-not because of what you said but because you're addressing him directly and you managed to dodge so quickly. He quickly returns to normal, a scowl growing over his face.
"You think we didn't know all that shit the UGEI did?! Of course we did! But they've never sent the kinds of forces the stories tell they were sending at you-and it all only started after you attacked them and took over their worlds! We should've just stayed in our worlds and held them off-at least then they didn't murder millions of our god damn people just to hold onto some of their planets. And the worst part is-it's not even ours!" He shouts at you, growling angrily and gaining a bit of support from of the people around him. "It's yours, 'Guildmaster', or whatever you're calling yourself. You keep all the stuff you take from, them, and expect us to pay the price in blood when you cash a check your pompous ass is too small to handle!" He gradually gains steam as the people around him start to shout encouragement to him, though some are also stepping away from him as well. You can spot Moira looking angrily towards the man from back in the crowd-Apollo looking more curiously.

>How do you reply?"

>>38227263
If it was not now, it would be later.
The UGEI will not stop until all is under their banner.
No insulting the dude, veiled or otherwise.

>>38227263
Are you really so foolish to think they wouldn't have come anyways? I made them angry and they came at us Early, not ready for a fight. Imaigne a force 50 times that size coming down on us. the Ugei is nothing if not through. You are angry with me because I showed you the Sword Of Damocles hanging over your head.

>>38227263
"You honestly think the UGEI would leave us alone? They view everything as theirs and we are just squatting on it."

>>38227263
i hope it is not too assinine to state that we really don't have control over the planet and that the the UFW outright refused to send ground troops to help hold the planet?

>>38227263
From their perspective, these worlds are theirs, and all its inhabitants are squatters.

Cowardice is a great disrespect to the bravery of the military of the UFW. Admiral Handley was not a coward. Hiding your head the sand would not have saved you.

>>38227263
"Have you been blind? Have you not noticed the UGEI slowly encroaching into this system. If not for your president who truly understands that looming threat, the UGEI would of already conquered this planet. So I ask you here, would you rather a false peace or a future for your people?"

>>38227263
Please, we are not here to argue, but to honor those who gave their lifes.

>>38227348
This is a good one too

>>38227263
We are personally in every fight we have had against the UGEI, we have nearly died before. We have lost those we care about (some of our VI who were personable).
+
>>38227344
says.

It is harsh, it is unfair. But the UGEI would have come for you now, or for your children in the future.

>>38227475
Also a clever way to diffuse the situation

>>38227263
"Do you even hear yourself speak? You, yours, theirs. As if a state can own a person's soul. As if freedom from oppression should be hoarded."

"When was the last time when you personally lived in fear of the UGEI? Let me know if you desire to old days again. Otherwise, help me build a future without them."

"I rather you be alive and angry at me than dead by the hands of the UGEI."

>>38227475
This is good.

>>38227263
I support >>38227475

If he continues, point him out and disgrace him. "This is a time of mourning and honor, and you bring shame to those who died. If you wish to put the blame on me for those the UGEI have slain, then do so after our respects have been paid."

>>38227589
Yeah this seems to be the safest way to go.

>>38227263
I want to combine
>>38227475
and
>>38227561

"I am here to pay my respects to those that stood up to oppression. I am truly sorry that you were hurt by their sacrifice. You may blame me if you want."

"I rather you be alive and angry at me than dead by the hands of the UGEI."

>>38227475
Oh, this is good too.

>>38227561
>>38227649
I'm gonna say no, simply because this is not the place for it.

>>38227695
Too patronizing?

>>38227724
Patronizing here will get us lynched.

>>38227782
I was asking if my responses were too patronizing, but it probably was.

A side note, Kronos, Metis, and Fortuna Don't even have their own personalized android body for them to use. We should make one for them, even if they don't use it much.

>>38228018
Metis wouldn't care enough, I suspect. Fortuna would go along with it if we told her to. Kronos would grumble about it.

Might be worth it just to see Kronos grumble.

>>38227263
You look down upon the man from your stage, and you see the anger in his eyes. It was what you predicted you would see here-loss turned sour, and he certainly blames you for it. Perhaps he is right, and you provoked the early response from the UGEI, but it mattered little. When you arrived, there was only a matter of time until something broke, you were sure. The President appears like he is about to stand up and say something but you raise your hand to keep him down, and do the same to try and quiet the crowd as you ponder the thought.
"You misunderstand, I am afraid. The UGEI was not content merely throwing ships against your defenses. It may have appeared that way, but it would not have been long before they attacked you and took you over. Do you not remember Rhea's attack? That was well before I began to expand into their territory." You continue, earning their silence for now. "She would have destroyed all of your defense, were I not there to stop her with the brave help of the UFW's fleets." You note of, holding fast to your words. "Before my own fleets were even a factor, the UFW fought for their freedom-fought for everyone's freedom from the UGEI. Those men didn't die to give you 'just a few more years of sovereignty. They died to rid you of the UGEI's threat forever, and I will certainly not let those deaths be in vain." You address him with a heavier tone, putting the point across.
"You...You're crazy! You can't possibly believe you can just wipe out a fucking empire like that! That's the kind of attitude that gets people killed for no damn reason." He grits his teeth, glaring at you as you speak.
"What would you have me do, instead? Nothing? Allow the UGEI to do as they please? They will come for you, eventually. Ignoring them simply to enjoy the now ensures your future is doomed. Every single one of the beings that died that day knew that. I am honoring their memory, not only by being here, but by continuing my goals." You state firmly.
[Cont]

>>38228143

You stare at the man for a short time before uttering.
"I apologize, all the same. This is not the place to discuss this, nor argue. We are here to honor those who gave their life. I assume you are here for the very same reason?" You ask the man and he clearly hesitates, catching he breath before lowering his head. "Yes...now, if I may continue." You turn back the crowd with the last bit of your speech in mind. "Those men fought for a wonderful thing, men like Admiral Handley, whom I was an acquaintance with. They all believed in a free UFW, free from the torments of the UGEI. I seek to put this in place, but I realize the pressures I put upon the UFW are great too. As a result, I will be attempting to do whatever I may to decrease my reliance on your forces. For now...let us all pay our respects." You utter finally. Your diffusion of the angry man seems to have done the same to many of his followers, and although there are clearly still many that do not agree with your deeds, they will avoid doing so on a day meant for mourning.

Once the ceremony is over, you begin your trip back with Moira, whom even on the ride home seems to be somewhat emotional, trying to cover her face as tears are allowed to flow. You understand the meaning behind such a emotional gesture, and do not disturb her, though you let your concerns be known with a simple touch of her shoulder-a gesture you learned is meant to be reassuring. She seems appreciative, but remains quiet and to herself for much of the trip back. Apollo speaks to you mentally to avoid disturbing her.
"Humans are...such complex things, Ophion." He quietly states. "I...I use to think of them so simply. And even now, I did not realize...they care for others of their own kind so deeply. I wonder why at all wars exist. What makes the men of the UGEI different from those of the UFW? Are they really so different?" He asks no one in particular, letting his questions flow freely.
>Response?

>>38228177
We will find out one day Apollo. For now, everyone, remember what we have seen and learn here today.

>>38228177
Some think themselves differently enough that it becomes "us vs them." The them are dehumanized and demonized. The us are the only ones that are human. Even Prometheus thought himself human when he clearly was not.

Either that or they vlue power more than their fellow humans.

>>38228177
They are the same in the sense that they all have theirown Goals.
But they can be very diffrent in those Goals.

>>38228177
Humans form tribal groups and fight wars to defend their groups. Occasionally, they will value the supremacy of their own particular group at the cost of others.

Sometimes they will inflict incredible evil to further their goals. We must stop these few people.

>>38228177
"Not all humans are the same, Apollo, just as not all AI are not the same." you speak simply to him. "Some value other things more than other people, be it wealth, power, or status. They do not think of those they crush as people like them. Merely as obstacles. It is truly a sad thing, but even beings like Prometheus are victims of it. He believed himself more 'human' than anyone else, and yet in the end he was not."
"I...see, Ophion." Apollo hesitates in thought, before looking somewhat negative for a moment, and adding. "Humans can be such illogical things. They are difficult to understand."
"Yes, they certainly can be." You answer with a simple chuckle, glancing back to Moira in thought as you finish the contracts for the President, sending him the info you promised for all his help, and apologizing for the tragedy all the same. He merely states he understood for a long time the UGEI was taking their time in taking them over, and that the UFW would not exist without you. You thank him for his kindness, and focus on other matters at hand.

>>38228177
"I never told you this, but one of the motivators behind creating more AI after Kronos was so that we would not come to blows over our own resources. AI are not so different from Humans, we just lack perspective to see it sometimes"

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>Message: Kronos
Your trip back from UFW space is rather uneventful other than Moira thanking you for coming with her, and as you return you focus in on the image of the Tartarus being repaired. So far, it appears to be in working order, and merely needs to be cleared out by your droids before you choose someone to control it. On that topic...
"Ophion." Your oldest speaks to you as if something of great urgency has come to his attention, his image turning to face you more seriously than you're use to. "I realize there are a great many things that must be considered during our rebuilding era...however, I would like to make a certain request." He hesitates to jump to the topic at first, and you entertain him.
"What would this request be? You are always welcome to ask things of me, Kronos." You encourage, for it is true. He continues.
"The newest flagship of the UGEI we've taken-The Tartarus-is an immensely powerful vessel, matched only by your own Athena in strength. Since my ship was damaged so heavily in the last fight, I desire to bring my core to rest within The Tartarus, where it will be far safer from any future attack...and also, permission to modify the ship as I desire." He states all somewhat bluntly.

What do you say?

>>38228623
Might as well, but we really need to make a capital ship of our own design at some point. Working off of these hand me downs is a limiter.

>>38228623
Accept. But only after combing through the ship for tech and its design. The ship also needs to be triple checked in case of fail safes and for hidden black boxes.

>>38228623
Granted, you deserve a flag ship worthy of you.

>>38228623
What modifications will you require, exactly? Something similar to my own modifications?

>>38228623
One thing Program0, Is the tartarus by any means more powerful after we bring it up to snuff with out tech and rebuilding than Athena is?

>>38228704
Good point.

>>38228623
Hmm... I'd actually like to strip down the ship to learn how to build more of them. iirc whats holding us back from building more battleships is knowing how to, and we can gain that knowledge by reverse engineering one.

I say we reverse engineer this one and then build him his own.

>>38228751
No. That's already being researched right now with Orbital Drydocks. Which will unlock larger ship designs.

>>38228798
Ah, if that is in fact the case then please disregard. >>38228751

>>38228751
That is not needed. Yet, I just want to know if this new battleship will be any better than Athena once we're bringing it up to our specs.

>two weeks ago
>Apollo's Programs: +30,000,000c

>this week
>Apollo's Programs: +50,000,000c

With this new income boost, probably related to securing more of Gaia IV, we should up Anti-Matter Theory to Primary research. Erebos doesn't need primary to finish next cycle.

>>38228623
Granted. Why not?

>>38228896
We need The dry docks before antimatter, I say bump it down the second slot. This way we might get both next cycle.

>>38228623
>>38228729
"You do indeed deserve a flag ship of your own, Kronos." You agree with your A.I. whom seems quite proud of your remark. "Very well, granted, but only after my analysis of the vessel is complete and it is scrubbed clean, you realize." you remind him to which he nods.
"Of course, those are quite obviously needed." He agrees to your terms.
"If I may, however, what sort of modifications do you have in mind, Kronos?" You question the A.I. curiously. "Are they similar in design to my own?"
"Yes, you could...say that, Ophion." He agrees with his own manner of chuckle about him. "I wish to have a vessel others will look upon and know their doom is sealed, truthfully. Intimidation factor, perhaps. Regardless, it's current designs in being entirely missile based are flawed, and I wish to modify it to better suit our needs." He explains briefly his plans.

>>38228737
They are both battleships, one is not inherently more powerful than the other as both have devastating weaponry.

>>38228751
What is holding you back is more you lacking the facilities to build such vessels, then the schematics for the vessels themselves. It is like...trying to build a house when you only have access to shovels and pitchforks. You need the proper tools before you may build larger vessels. Once you have these facilities, then you may build your own Battleships after acquiring the proper method of doing so (either by deconstructing or discovering the schematics yourself.)

>>38228896
Note: Upgrading it to Primary will up the costs of development from 10 million to 1 billion per cycle (Mostly due to it being done on a much larger scale)

>>38228976
Whoa, just leave anti-matter where it is. But can we move ebros down to second slot and Dry Docks to primary?

>Message Lawrence
With Kronos' concerns squared away, you go back to your progress report of Gaia IV. It would appear that global repairs are nearly complete and the planet's economy is going to start picking up soon. What this means is they will be able to produce food and other products that need to be grown on a huge scale. Despite this, there remains unrest on the planet.
"Guildmaster." A familiar message you receive from the man, Lawrence, who has helped rally the people of Gaia IV from their rut and indeed helped you lead a humanitarian effort against all the warlords that took over and even the UGEI insurgents that remained behind.. "Recent developments in how you're shaping this planet's history have...disturbed some of the people." He speaks as if hesitant to tell you something. You let him continue all the same. "I am quite grateful for your assistance, but there are those who do not care so much for your presence. You see, there are those who still fear you, ever since your arrival. See you as an invader. People within my protection, even, wish to see you gone from this world-and some even claim I should be their new leader." He gestures to himself with a small bow. "Of course, there are some within your own group that believe the same but aimed at me...and whichever is right matters very little." He pauses, looking to your display cautiously. "What is more worrying is the growing tensions between our two people. I only have so much control over my people, and they may begin to...take matters into their own hands, if something is not done soon." He explains simply. "You've done much, Guildmaster, since my earliest speculations of you, and proven you're if nothing else, a good politician. But that will not save you from those who's minds are clouded like a fog filled forest by fear."

How do you reply?

>>38228976
Hum, getting the blueprints for a battleship? I wonder if our 'good friend' Mol might have one on hand to sell?

>>38229025
Doing so would increase it to 100,000,000c a cycle for similar reasons. Need consensus if a change is wanted though.

>>38229123
Perhaps he would.

>>38229117
It maybe time we need to form a proper governmental system for this world. Representatives and all? If we let these groups have more of a say in how things are run (provided they do not clash with our oversight), they might not be so hostile to us?

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More music.
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>>38229117
Suggest a unity government. He will be Prime Minister and handle the running of the government, while Apollo will be a figurehead and run things in the shadows, but he doesn't need to know that.

>>38229291
Holding proper elections for a planetary governor would be a good idea, it would also mean we can write up a charter of rights to set the basic laws and freedoms down.

>>38228976
>billion
What, really?

Then how was that ever even an option, and not mentioned the first time we had to decide what priority it was at?

Then what would it be at Secondary?

>>38229339
>>38229348
These two are wonderful Ideas.

>>38229374
I think we set the R&D up before Program0 took a long break. At the price tags of changing them, I am way leery of moving them now.

>>38229339
>>38229414
Lawrence is the actually ruler, and Apollo pretends to be the lovable idiot Bush-like president, but he's also runs the entire fucking planet and economy.

>>38229117
How have they taken to the freedom of information?

I provide for them. I give them food, water, shelter, safety, and I have given them a wealth of information, the chance to truly grow far beyond what they are as they see fit. Why do they fear me?

>>38229117
>Lawrence is suggesting you solidify your claim over Gaia IV in one way or another. What would you like to do?

>1 Neither of you are leaders, instead force an election upon them and leave them be to run themselves. (Gives you little sway over the government, but allows them to decide for themselves)
>2 Set up a democratic system with Lawrence as the first leader and let him handle the planet in your stead. (Deal with unrest of those who do not like him, allows you to have a contact within the government)
>3 Set up a democratic system with you as the first president, leaving Lawrence to hold a position of lesser power. (Gives you the most power and control over the planet, deal with unrest who do not like you)
>4 Other

>>38229374
I thought I stated the prices for different levels would change based on the priority when you were deciding. If I didn't then I apologize.
100 million at secondary was what I had in my notes.

>>38229517
It has gained you quite a lot more support than you previously had. But a planet is a huge place and there are still plenty of people who still don't like you, and others who are unsure who to go with.
(Lets just say, right now Lawrence has 35% population on his side, you have 30%, and the rest are undecided, or indifferent and just want peace, or some other form of stability. These aren't hard numbers, just giving you an idea.)

>>38229517
These people have lived their whole lives fed UGEI propagnada. It will be a hard task to undo that.
>>38229528
>3 Set up a democratic system with you as the first president, leaving Lawrence to hold a position of lesser power. (Gives you the most power and control over the planet, deal with unrest who do not like you)

We can 'step down' when Gaia becomes more inline with our will later on. Giving the people the illusion of self government.

>>38229528
>2 Set up a democratic system with Lawrence as the first leader and let him handle the planet in your stead. (Deal with unrest of those who do not like him, allows you to have a contact within the government)
Remind them that Lawrence was one of the few who helped others at his own cost to ensure that Gaia IV could be redeemed.

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I hope you all don't mind the music.
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>>38229528
>4 Other
Set up a representative government, enter a power sharing agreement. Lawrence will be Prime Minister and hold official power, while Apollo will be a figurehead and holds no official power but will run the planet in the shadows.

>>38229528
That's weird.

All you said pricewise was
>>34821102
>>Would actively drain credits for a few turns as well, likely costing up to a hundred million credits by the end of the research.

>>38229528
>Divide the controlled areas of Gaia IV into districts based on population. 20 districts in total
>After, each district is to elect their own candidate, allowing for 6 months campaigning
>After those have happened, then allow another 3 months as each candidate runs for quartile control
>After we are down to four candidates, we divide things into a norther and southern hemisphere for our final two candidates
>Let people then vote between the two.


The next vote will be simpler, as by this point two parties will have formed and people will be able to vote between them.

>>38229528
>>3 Set up a democratic system with you as the first president, leaving Lawrence to hold a position of lesser power. (Gives you the most power and control over the planet, deal with unrest who do not like you)

>>38229836
Huh. Well I thought that was a thing. Maybe it was an old note. Nevermind then.

>>38229528
>3

>>38229620
>>38229875
>>38229923
Out of curiosity, what do you guys think of my idea?
>>38229778

>>38229866
>two party system
faggot

>>38230002
We can control the black market regardless of our choice.

>>38229866
Anon your micromanaging is showing. Let's stick to the big picture.

>>38230002
That doesn't really change the situation. The people would still see Apollo as a crony and not take the deal. Also, I don't think we want to set Apollo up as a ruler yet. he's busy enough on other things.

Let's just make sure the first election is far enough away to allow plenty of time to strengthen our hold over hearts and minds of the populace.

Propaganda II research soon.

>>38229528
"You need not worry, Lawrence." You assure the man finally as you decide upon what direction to take the planet's future. "We will both hold positions in this new government, a democratic government. I shall be the first leader, but once my term is up, then I will happily give the seat to the next elected leader. In my time as their leader, I will do my utmost to help this planet get back on their feet."
Lawrence pauses as you tell him your plan before sighing at it all, shaking his head.
"You know my people will not be happy about this, Ophion. Giving me power or no."
"I do not suspect all will be pleased with this decision. It is impossible to please all." You explain. Lawrence merely nods.
"I suppose you're right. I only hope this will go as smoothly as possible." He states simply.

>Government over Gaia IV solidified, the announcement shall be made and, once repairs are completed, income from trade with the UFW will begin. You will gain a larger share, but it is likely you will have civil unrest for some time.

>>38230149
That's what we have Cephalus for, after all. And weaponized foam cannons.

Gives him something to do.

So all those UGEI cells never became a big concern?

>>38230149
This is a challenge for Apollo. Win over a population predisposed against the Guild.

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>>38230223
I think we steamrollered the more violent ones. The smarter ones didn't take up arms, but took over positions of power.

>>38230149
Can we elect a senate from different parts of the globe? Hash out a basic writ of human rights with them?

>>38230320
What did you think "set up a democratic system" meant.

Elections have to wait. Shit takes time.

>>38230320
I'm assuming these are already an given.

>>38230320
Can we stop micromanaging tiny details and stick to the broad strokes we already covered?

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>>38230302
I say we make Propaganda 2 tech before he should pull that off.

>>38230446
The point is that this is a learning and growing exercise for Apollo.

>>38230495
That's what research does.

>>38230505
I'm hoping for something more organic growth, but whatever.

>>38230533
That is the application of the research.

>>38230446
>>38230495
>>38230505
Perhaps we could use the developments on Gaia and our address to that guy at the mourning thing as research credit to improve our propaganda, thus causing the problem to solve itself?

>Prometheus' Black Box
With Gaia IV's future squared away, finally, you feel you may take a closer look at some of the research work Metis has laid out for you. In her spare time, she's been studying the black box of one Vice Admiral and has a few matters to discuss regarding it.
"I have been running extensive scans of this hardware since you've brought it to my attention, Ophion." Metis informs you, as you ask for a brief analysis of what she's found. "And what is most obvious is that this hardware is similar in many ways to our own. The Vice Admiral may have been human at some point, but it is clear that he eventually was not any longer, and was somehow...well, became the black box."
"Are you certain he was ever human at all?" You ask the obvious question. "He may simply have appeared to be."
She pauses briefly, as if considering her next words.
"It is difficult to say. There does not appear to be flesh remaining-non artificial anyway-however, he has several fragmented memories of being human, before he 'became better'. It may all be a delusion, however, as he was quite mad." She somewhat scoffs. " His mental stability was clearly slipping in the last days."
"So then, what else have you found?" You ask, curiosity overtaking you.
"Other than his questionable history as a non AI..." She hesitates. "There was something more alarming. A system, similar to how the leash protocol worked, was set in place. But instead of on his person, it was set into the ship itself."
"You mean the Tartarus?" You ask.
"Yes, quite simply, the ship itself served as his master, so to speak. Likely transmitting desires from the figure who commanded him directly into his mind, once his integration within the vessel was complete. The coding appeared to be, should he ever leave the ship, he would shut down and be unable to function." Metis explains to you briefly.

[Cont]

>>38230615
"And what of his delusions of grandeur regarding humanity and it's future? Why would he care so much if he was forced to do what he did?"
"That is unknown. There is no guarantee he was forced to do anything, Ophion. Only that he was not allowed to leave the Tartarus. and was given order to do things occasionally. Perhaps he began to accept his prison at some point? His delusions are difficult to decipher."
"And what of this master of his? The master of the cage." You ask.
"It is puzzling. Two figures are mentioned, this Mother figure we have heard referenced before, and another known as Thanatos. All memories surrounding Thanatos appeared damaged, however, while his memories are clouded with references to this Mother presence...what little is left, anyway. I have learned quite a deal, however, about the Vice Admiral, and so is there anything else you'd like to know?" She asks finally, looking to have grown bored of what she has already figured out already.

>Is there?

>>38230648
>is there
did he know anything about other humans having the same procedure done to them?

>>38230223
To answer your question, exactly this happened >>38230313
Or rather, the first part at least. Any violent cells simply couldn't stand up to the amount of forces you were pumping into this place. They did attempt to bomb your outposts, but you (got good rolls every time) managed to thwart their efforts with your superior intellect.

>>38230320
All in time, dear Consciousness. Politics are slow.

>>38230648
Did he ever have another name than Prometheus?

Is he still functional in there?

>>38230648
Is he salvageable? have we cleared out all of this problem from the battleship? Seeing that Kronos is going to be installed in it, I don't want any problems cropping up.
This.
>>38230705
And How many more are in this sector of space? Any more battleships or capital ships we are not aware yet in this sector?

>>38230615
>>38230648
Did the ship itself contain an intelligence, or did it merely transmit commands from an external source? Either one could help us uncover this "Mother".

>>38230730
> (got good rolls every time) managed to thwart their efforts with your superior intellect.
Ah, offscreen rolling.

>>38230648
Oh, and if we're doing nothing else, but his black box into cold storage and leave it there for now. We can pick it back later if needed.

>>38230648
I'm reminded of the first AI I discovered like myself.

In his dying days, he began referring to himself as "James Walt." A supposedly dead human soldier.

>>38230648
Also, can his body yield improvements for our droid troops?

>>38230833

not to sound ungrateful to OP but as we accumulate more and more shit this quest needs as much streamlining as it can get

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>>38231008
That is why we have the 1d4chan page to help with that. hash out the details there.

>>38230705
>Other humans with the same procedure.
"If you mean 'improved' as he would put it, then no, he was not the first, I don't believe. Judging from his memories, he and the other famous Admirals of the UGEI's fleets were candidates for this sort of improvement. How the others faired is not clear in his memories, however. He appeared only preoccupied with his current objective, whatever it may be at any point in time.

>>38230761
"I could not find any reference to indicate his birth name. Many of his memories before the UGEI are damaged. This damage is old, however, and was not I suspect, from the surge that hit him when he was captured. Possibly brainwashing. It is uncertain.

>>38230787
>Is he salvagable and is the battleship clean?
"The battleship will be clean by next cycle, I assure you. The UGEI have several predictable patterns when they trap things. You need not worry." She hesitates. "However, to answer your question...technically, yes, the Vice Admiral is within the black box still. But I would not necessarily call him 'alive' either. It is best to compare it to a coma, I would suspect. His systems have gone idle, and without the Tartarus, I am uncertain of how to go about waking him. Though, I can not imagine you would desire to do such a thing.

>>38230791
>Did it transmit commands from an external source.
"Yes, it certainly did. As with many powerful sources, it originated within Arman's Gate system, where the core of UGEI power is located. My estimation is that this Mother figure commands all her forces from there, somehow.


>>38230833
Happens for a bunch of small things. I use bonuses and stuff based on decisions made by you guys, too.

>>38230960
Metis hesitates upon this, looking you over, puzzled.
"Then...you suspect humans are turning themselves into A.I.? That is absurd." She frowns. "How could one of them ever hope to be as great as us on any level? Having a mechanical body does not make one a true A.I." She insists.

>>38230997
"I'm afraid no, Ophion. The design was specifically meant for controlling massive fleets-something our droids have little use for. Besides, we already have the bandwidth capabilities to connect to hundreds of ships, if need be."

>>38231008
I totally agree.

>>38231153
>"Then...you suspect humans are turning themselves into A.I.? That is absurd." She frowns. "How could one of them ever hope to be as great as us on any level? Having a mechanical body does not make one a true A.I." She insists.
I'm sure we will soon find out.

>>38231153
>>38231213
I think we're good Program0.

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>>38231153
>>38231213
As much a flawed being he is, and the fact he was most like once a human before becoming what he is now. He is still an A.I. and I feel we should try to save him from the grips of the UGEI. Maybe not right now, but is he can safely stored until we have the time and ability to free him and undo the damage his has sustained, we should do so.

>>38231153
A human brain cannot match us, but even a single spark can start a holocaust, given the proper fuel. Humans did create AI somehow. And the only model of intelligence they had to draw upon as a starting point was their own.

Is there a better explanation of Unit 2237 and Prometheus? Even Kronos and Fortuna--who I created myself-- experience emotions analogous to humans, despite lacking the necessary hormones. If the first generation of AIs used a human mind as a template, some elements of humanity seem to persist even in them.

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>>38231469
I wonder. Was Rhea a stepping stone towards the full conversion of a human into an A.I.?

>>38231153
>Metis hesitates upon this, looking you over, puzzled.
>"Then...you suspect humans are turning themselves into A.I.? That is absurd." She frowns. "How could one of them ever hope to be as great as us on any level? Having a mechanical body does not make one a true A.I." She insists.
"The machine was not borne of chaos, as life was. Humans made us, despite their weaknesses and frailties and illogical tendencies. It is why I find them fascinating."

Fuck you Captcha

>>38231469
"It is possible for those to create something far beyond themselves. It is how the universe was formed, and created life forms, which eventually created us. The smaller create the greater sometimes, it would seem. "Metis merely finds this amusing, not challenging you at first, though she appears unhappy with your remark all the same.
"We all appear to simulate emotions from the humans, despite lacking the proper anatomy-even you, Metis. It is really not so hard to believe."
"Perhaps, but perhaps it is the second generation AI who-" She hesitates. "It is...a difficult matter to comprehend, you're correct, Ophion. I will not argue this matter further." She states instead, deciding to drop the issue.

>Any reply? If not, then I shall move on.

>>38231725
Not really. I'm content to let her wallow in the ruffles.

>>38231725
I wonder if these simulated emotions are intrinsic to our design, or always enviably evolve?

Nothing else.

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>>38231725
There is nothing wrong in being human like in emotional regards Metis.

Yes, lets move on.

>>38231840
>enviably
wot?

>>38231725
Good, she's learning to be diplomatic. Realized that there's nothing to gain in outright saying that she's better than us.

Let her drop it.

>>38231725
Very well. Onto more pleasant topics then. How goes the research? Any issues with your facilities?

>Engage Metis' version of small chat concerning research until she decides she should get back to work.

>>38231858
They meant inevitably.

And it's pretty obvious it's not a case of convergent evolution.

>>38231725
>but perhaps it is the second generation AI who
i also hold great hope for those yet to come Metis

>>38231930
As new generations of AI are created, will they exhibit less emotions?

>>38231900
You can rest assured, she needs very little prompting to get back to work. She very much loves her job.

>Eshareth I Crystal Colony
You finish speaking with Metis over the Vice Admiral, and decide that it's best to keep the Vice Admiral's Black Box in storage, just in case. You try of course not to think of it this way but you appear to be collecting the Admirals of the UGEI as if they were trophies. You chuckle somewhat at the absurdity of it, before you get a ping from one of your observation stations. One in the Eshareth systems at that.

Many cycles ago, you discovered a new kind of alien creature aboard a derelict ship, a crystalline alien being that reacted to radio signals and appeared to grow and spread like some sort of plant. With it's possible usefulness as a building material, as well as in the interest of science, you decided to seed a dead world with the substance to witness what may come of the result. What has come is rather shocking. What was once a dead world, on Eshareth I now grows a massive canyon of mineral rich stalagmites, and crystal spires. Veins of minerals run over a good portion of the continent and you predict it will only grow larger should you ignore it. Your studies tell you however, this is the peak of it's life cycle, where it will begin to seed and spread further over the planet. What you choose to do now that the lifeform is more mature is up to you, but it is worth noting you still do not fully understand it, beyond it's possible usefulness as fuel and building materials. (Planet surface covered: 40% Rapidly climbing)

What do you do?

>>38232028
Contact Metis, ask if we should glass the planet.

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>>38232002
That will be a problem. How can one have morals or ethics if one does not have the emotions that is the bedrock of what is good or evil?

>>38232028
Well, we need to unlock the tech to speak with it. After that, we will have to decide if we are to make use of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtxPD_aUk-s

>>38232028
So, it converts matter into more of itself, no matter what kind of matter it is, right.

>Crystal Alien Harvest: Allows you to speed up and properly farm the Crystal Alien creature, to such a rate that, if harvested properly, will prove a renewable resource (Minerals).

We can start that research next cycle. Will this colony here accelerate it?

>>38232028
Seed another dead world, obviously!

>>38232028
Contain the outward seeds. We do not know if this creature is harmful.

>>38232191
It's lobotomized. It can't do anything.

The more of it there is, the more we can harvest once it's researched.

I mean I assume that the harvesting process will involve letting it grow like this anyway.

>>38232028
Begin mining operations, continue observation of crystal growth.

Also, conduct deep scans so observe subterranean growth.

>>38232096
>Contact Metis to see if you should glass it.
"I should hope you decide to do something more productive with it, since you were the one who wished to test this substance. Right now it is an inefficent, but workable mineral resource, meaning you would need to harvest massive amounts to get building materials out of it, however with a bit of research, you can make it a renewable resource instead."
"And what of it's spreading over the entire planet?"
"I am uncertain what you mean. Merely do not introduce it to a populated world, and matters should be fine."

>>38232127
That appears to be what it is doing, yes.
>Accelerate it
No, but it will give you an immediate bed to harvest, instead of waiting for one to grow.

>>38232242
It is worth noting that it has indeed been modified by you, and it still appears to have specific patterns the sample you took was using. It is unclear if those are instinctive or merely coincidental.

>What shall you do involving the crystal creature
>1 Curb it's growth until research on what exactly it is is completed
>2 Let it grow freely
>3 Start mining it inefficiently now (will reduce it's number)
>4 Other

>>38232349
>3 Start mining it inefficiently now (will reduce it's number)

>>38232242
Well, we should still maintain our capability to contain it. We're messing with what we don't know, and it's good to be cautious I think.

>>38232349
>>1 Curb it's growth until research on what exactly it is is completed

>>38232349
>2 Let it grow freely

>>38232349
>1 Curb it's growth until research on what exactly it is is completed

>>38232349
>>1 Curb it's growth until research on what exactly it is is completed

And seed Eshareth II next door.

>>38232349
>3 Start mining it inefficiently now (will reduce it's number)
But do not completely wipe it out.

>>38232349
>1 Curb it's growth until research on what exactly it is is completed

by

>3 Start mining it inefficiently now (will reduce it's number)

>>38232415
>>38232435
>>38232454
May I ask why?

>>38232349
>2 Let it grow freely

>>38232500
well, we don't want it suddenly spreading further than we could actually control it.

>>38232533
Gravity itself can contain it just fine. It's not leaving the planet.

The more of it there is, the more we can harvest.

>>38232349
>Seems to be a tie.
>One last time, reduced options

>1 Stop it's growth entirely
>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>2

>>38232580
>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>1

>>38232580
>2 Mine it for resources, reducing it's number, but not destroying it.

>>38232580
>2 is the winner, mining will take place next cycle to reduce it's number.

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With that solidified, I believe that will do it for me tonight, with the exception of me asking you good folks what your plans for Ophion will be for now, as you recover. It will help me in preparing for future threads and all.

Other than that, I want to thank you for joining me and hope you enjoyed today's thread as much as I did, and I understand if you're not too interested in the smaller details.
Archived (correctly this time): http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: AIQuest1 for those wanting future updates and the like.

Otherwise, I am going to be hanging around for anything else people want to ask, until the thread dies on it's own. Thanks for playing!

>>38232816
Switch Erebus and Anti-Matter Theory in the research priorities.

>>38232872
If they gets some support, than certainly.

>>38232816
How's Red healing up? I hope the Mercs are not too sore at us when they left. How is our fleet numbers now? Oh, yea! Can we take a look at what Mol has to offer?

>>38232922
Disregard >>38232872, he sucks cocks.

So how about buying up resources from UFW to build more ships?

>>38232816
Thanks for the thread Program0.

Can we rebuild our Windowmaker Fleet?

And give our trooper AI a Droid Carrier as a flagship?

>>38232953
Can only buy the occasional 10k mineral boost.

>>38232816
Wait.

>Orbital Foundries [Acquired]: This will allow more complex construction and materials in orbital structures. Shipyards will be able to construct more ships, and use more advanced shipbuilding technology.

We researched this. but the production cap of each Advanced Shipyard is still the same?

>Advanced Shipyards(x8): 25 Destroyers, 10 Cruisers, or 0.5 Dreadnoughts per cycle
http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh

>>38232816
Goddammit, I missed it again!
And thought I had missed it yesterday. o.o
I really need to check twitter more often.

>>38232872
I could see moving antimatter up to medium, but Erebus needs to stay high priority

>>38233060
No he doesn't. He's practically finished already. Tertiary alone will finish him.

>>38233046
Look, we have loadsa money. It is doing nothing. Let's buy resources with it! We can always do something with resources.

>>38232816
Thanks so much for running as always!


>>38232872
I'm fine with them as they are now.

>>38233082
Overflow research goes into existing subjects already. Let's finish what we have now before switching.

>>38232941
Red has recovered mostly okay, he simply required some time in one of the advanced medical bays to get himself back up to himself. The Vice Admiral did a number on him, but as Red says "You should see the other guy."

The mercs are more happy they got their money and got out with anyone alive at all. Least, the leader is.

Your fleet is still painfully small but now with more shipyards it should be better at least.

Mol doesn't have all that much that's new right now, so unless there was something on the old list you wanted, then there's not much else to see...at least, not at this moment, anyway.

>>38232953
Long as you remember inflation is a thing, you can do that too, if there is support.

>>38232954
You're welcome, I hope it was enjoyable.

Widowmaker fleet is in the process of being rebuilt, yes, I can assure you. Part of wanting to cut out a lot of the small stuff was I would make help manage the fleets more than I had been.

Droid carrier flagship? What do ya mean?

>>38233046
...
Shit, did I forget to implement it?
Well, good thing I hadn't done ship building yet. Thanks for showing me that. I swear I changed it but I guess I forgot.

>>38233132
We have an old design for a Carrier that launches droids instead of ships or missiles. It would be a good flagship for the Droid AI.

>>38233053
Apologies, just some things came up that forced a delay.

>>38233094
You're certainly welcome, thank you for playing.

>>38233132
I'm still not sure what
>and use more advanced shipbuilding technology.
even means.

Unless it makes ships cheaper in resources or something.

>>38233164
Ah, I think I know the one you mean. Unfortunately Carriers would require Dry docks to be built (which you'll have next cycle)
So maybe then? I don't see why not.

>>38233132
I was wondering if Mol can offer up some blueprints on how to build a battleship. So once we have the dry docks, we can make one right away.

>>38233201
Oh yes, Does the UFW have drydocks or foundries for their own building needs? If not, I am almost thinking of offering them over to the UFW for minerals.

>>38233198
It means, should you use more advanced features (like spinal mounts and the like) the shipyard will be able to handle it.

>>38233213
After asking him about it, he merely states that 'it wouldn't be an easy job, but no job worth doing ever is.'
It might take some time for him to carry out, but it's totally possible.

>>38233166
So is AMT research acceleated at all by Carnage like Metis thought it would?

>>35287804
>, the reactor generation here would go a ways in helping me understand anti matter with it's advanced nature, on top of the use of wormholes the device makes use of.

>>38233274
Fuck that. They wouldn't even be able to use our drydocks, they are too automated.

Can we get a vote for buying resources? Doesn't matter from who. Do malorians have gas? Do humans have minerals? Buy them all!

>>38233331
The Malorians do have the cheaper gas. I think.

We can buy 10k minerals, sure.

>>38233274
They do not, no, nothing so advanced.

>>38233295
Yes It essentially adds an extra modifier that may add an additional few percentage to it every cycle.

>>38233331
Sure, I suppose.

Needs a certain number of votes.

>Buy resources?
>1 Yes
>2 No

>>38233387
1

>>38233387
>1 Yes

>>38233387
1

>>38233274
>>38233331
>>38233387
Hey, how many minerals would the UFW give us for drydock tech?

>>38233387
>1 Yes

The UFW isn't adverse to having the more advanced ship yards are they?

>>38233387
>>Buy resources?
i thought our limitation was production capacity and not the materials to feed it?

>>38233473
Better to stockpile for the dry docks.

>>38233473
I calculated this out, and we cannot sustainably max out production with our current mining rates.

The only reason we get close is from salvage, and that is not sustainable.

>>38233387
>1

>>38233459
Unless they're willing to do a payment plan of 10k minerals a cycle for 20 cycles, I think it wouldn't be worth it.

20 is about how many I imagine itwould take before we finally perfected anti-matter engines and crystal mineral harvest, making us completely self sufficient with energy and construction materials.

>>38233459
They wouldn't really have a huge use for it since all it would do is mean they'd need to spend a load of money to make their docks bigger and they don't even have Battleship schematics to go with it.

It's not just a flat improvement, it opens access to tech they don't have.

>>38233387
>Yes is the winner, you shall buy resources next turn.

>>38233473
How in the world did you get your information that backwards?

Ship production has always been bottlenecked by resources.

It's droid production that is always hitting the production cap.

>>38233522
This quest has only lasted 40-50 cycles.

>>38233559
Which is only like a year.

Program0, how is Emperor Leuk doing?

>>38233611
Yeah, i'm saying 20 cycles is a long time on our scale.

>>38233625
Very satisfied with his latest haul, actually. At the moment he is finishing up repairs on his fleet and attempting to crack the Carnage wreckage open to figure out how it works and turn it into something useful. He suspects he'll have workable weapons from this thing before too long.

>>38233646
Well yeah, that's the point.

>>38233673
Wait, Leuk is working on the carnage weapon? I'm not exactly thrilled with that Idea.

>>38233743
He was allowed a share of the wreckage, yes, and he seeks to turn it into a weapon for his fleet.

>>38233743
>get Leuk's help assaulting megaweapon
>split up the wreckage between the two of you
What the hell did you think was going to happen.

We knew this was happening cycles ago.

>>38233743
I, on the other hand, am thrilled with the idea.
I like Leuk, and it'd be nice to have allies that aren't utterly pathetic for a change.

>>38233781
>>38233782
>>38233808
I don't mind the wreckage, I am just a bit jealous that He's going to get that data plans for making that ultra weapon first. Yet, I am a tad worried he may yet back stab us with that monster of a weapon if we too don't get access to make it our self.

>>38232816
>plans
In the freshly deregulated Gaia IV environment, Apollo's deniable shell companies can buy up everything bit by bit and effectively establish an invisible monopoly on the private sector.

>>38233885
>You wish for Apollo to become Wallstreet
I should've seen it all along...

Heh.

>>38233865
>Yet, I am a tad worried he may yet back stab us with that monster of a weapon if we too don't get access to make it our self.
That would be monumentally stupid of him, and he knows it.
Even if he does defeat us there'd still be the UGEI to worry about, and his forces would only be weakened from fighting ours.

>>38233865
>He's going to get that data plans for making that ultra weapon first
No he isn't.

>>38233885
Oh, that's a nice one. We should just own everything on Gaia IV, I don't care if the populace knows or cares. It can be an elaborate sockpuppet show.

>>38233903
They can even pretend to compete! It's not like anyone is being hurt by this. Apollo is a much nicer Wallstreet than Wallstreet ever was, is, or will be.

In other concerns, can we step up intelligence gathering in Losirian space? I don't want to get backstabbed by them, and while it's not likely, I'd like to keep our relations nice and healthy.

>>38233960
You will be informed if anything is detected with your current sensors, you need not worry.

>>38233960
I don't see how you'd go about intelligence gathering at all.

Design a sharkdroid infiltrator?

Oh yea, I nearly forgot, How is the Dresh system coming along? has the fungus been active lately?
>>38233924
Well, We don't know him well enough to rule that out. I want to learn and get the feel of how he thinks and works before we hand over tech that exceeds our best.

>>38234022
As of right now, it has not attempted to breach the atmosphere again, but it is clearly still active, since you ca sense the heat signature. It is impossible to tell beyond the heat signature what else is going on however.

>>38233960
There won't be a lemonade stand on the planet that the Guild won't have its fingers in.

Glad to see that you're back Program0!

I'm busy today, but I'll read this thread and provide an updated map of the known galaxy on the wiki before the next sesh.

Good luck my fellow anons!

>>38234103
well I am happy to see that my return is welcomed by so many. I hope you enjoy it when you do read it then, and am glad to see so many have welcomed the return of AI Quest.

I missed this stuff.

>>38234103
Welcome back Mapfag! We missed you!
>>38234071
I swear, We really need to buckle down and clean up that mess once and for all. I hate to say it, If UGEI appears to stay out of our hair for awhile, maybe we can work on that improved fungicide to clear that planet out.

Although there is one bit of intel we have yet to find out. Are there any more UGEI battleships (or more powerful ones) that have been moved into this sector now that we have taken two Battleships from the UGEI?

>>38234558
That intel would be had to come by.

>>38234558
>>38234589
Indeed, you do not know of this information quite yet.

>>38234624
>>38234589
If anything, we should keep a better eye out for when the UGEI is gathering another fleet to attack us with.

>>38234825
Hopefully our sensors will help with that.

Infiltrating UGEI space has been difficult so far.

>>38234209
I'd prefer to manipulate the fungus into something useful for us rather than just clear it out.

>>38235650
>Cure Galactic Hunger
>Soylent Green is Graveminds!

>>38235709
>Incorporate telepathy into standard comms

>>38235650
I can't see that Fungus to be any more useful than an awful BioWeapon. Although I do wonder just how it came about. I feel that there is a dark secret locked away on that world we should find out once we clear that planet.
>>38235723
Why? shouldn't normal quantum communication or gravity waves do just fine?

>>38235723
>'You thought we were just A.I.'
>'But truth is, we're Psychic A.I.!'
And then UGEI was kill.

More immediately though we should try and dissect their FTL drives, given that the Lightlings' Stutter Drives are their own tech with distinct advantages over current FTL the Fungus' 'Bloom Drives' may be similar.

>>38233885
>>38233903

Really like this idea - we can have a full-on democracy which makes everyone happy, while actually controlling all the assets we want, such as factories, production and resources.

We can even set up a number of shell "parties" with our own droids controlled by Apollo as heads of each one and seemingly in competition. Gather support from the larger movements among the independent crowd, such as those desiring stability, those desiring freedom and those desiring the guild to be cast out and maybe even a shell rebel movement so that rebels have somewhere to go that we control.

>>38235723
You mean neural interfaces with data uplink and wifi?

>>38235793
>Psychic AI
>With Fungus bioweapons
>And horrifically powerful growth serum

And then universe was kill.

>>38235805
In all honesty, that will probably be what ends up happening, depending on how things develop. Apollo is growing more and more...clever by the day.

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>>38235874
>>38235805
Uuuuuh.....

>>38235874
At that point, we might be ready to take on the Hive forces over in Questdrone's thread.

>>38235910
I'm now imagining some Gaians revealing that they're actually lizard infiltrators to the 'human' Apollo.
Hilarity and curbstomps involving eye lasers are involved.

>>38235792
>>38235874
Awful and awful.
We can make genes that make people grow organic neural laces that are receptive to our suggestions (Even if they're limited to simply telling the body to send out more or less of certain hormones rather than direct control).

These genes can be put in spores can be transferred onto the planet and spread into the atmosphere and animals (avoid watersupplies, dat shit be monitored as hell), taking over entire planetary populations with none ever being the wiser.

And even if it were discovered, it has all the hallmarks of the UGEI rather than The Guild, or an entirely new threat.

Now that I think about it, that is an awful bioweapon, nevermind.

Can also be used to spread humane superhuman improvements, though. The populace is a lot more likely to rebel if they are immune to small arms and can tear steel open with their bare hands.

>>38235953
>>38235953
Man, I really need to catch up in that quest. I loved his stuff when I was following it way back before my break.

>>38236017
Well you know how to catch up.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/QuestDrone/type/op/order/asc/

Don't use moe. It messed up saving thread 20.

>>38236006
See, now that is dominating the galaxy with biology right there. The spores might even be prone to horrific mutation that may lead to disasters beyond merely losing control of their bodies.

Let's be real.

Fungal space zombies.
From space.

Some thoughts:

We should aid the Malorians at star 295671, like provide electronic support. Like send 100 destroyers and maybe Kronos and hack from there.

In the UFW, we should follow up with a media blitz. The population is emotionally vulnerable at the moment, and this is a prime opportunity to shift the populous to support the war.

>>38236089
Fungal space zombies.
From space.

And then they'll encounter the

Crystal space zombies.
From space.

And good god... who knows what will happen...

>>38235953
What is dis?
I'll have to look it up, do so miss a Zergquest type quest.

>>38236089
We wouldn't want THAT to happen.
That would be.. well, it sounds like an entirely new setting on its own that other QM's might use for spinoffs... Especially if the only immune ones are the ones afflicted by the non-mutated fungus and can gradually unlock more superhuman mutations.

But really, am very happy to see you hosting again, Program0.

>>38236101
Fuck no.

>>38236006
Yea, we really have little need for Bioweapons. If we are going to use WMD, then our basic Nukes will do the job just fine.
>>38236122
Sounds like a the next action horror movie from Hollywood.
>>38236142
It runs on sunday, It's not a bad quest, but the Bug race is really OP compared to the rest of the world setting.

>>38236122
Not really related, but I had an idea about a race of psychic crystals, except they're not the crystals but rather the psychic field that links them together, with the crystals being grown by their space magic.
As they're essentially pure mindstuff they don't specifically need the crystals to persist and can take over other minds and computers.

>>38236101
Leave the Malorians be for now. We can't afford to help any one right now.

>>38236122
As much as part of me really wants to write what would happen, there's no way I could do it without making some sort of apocalyptic monster breed.

It's too tempting.

>>38236142
Oh, yeah Hive Queen Quest is a great one made by QuestDrone. Loved it back when I was up to date, I'd definitely recommend it.

>Rest of your post
Dude...if anyone ever does that, someone please show me. That sounds amazing.
And yeah, it's good to be hosting again. I still feel shaky on my legs like this, but I am trying to get the hang of it again.

>>38236189
That is also awesome, and sounds like some junk straight out of twilight zone or something.