Previous Thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37909508/Our Current Stats: http://pastebin.com/iahm4JSj (Please have a look at them, but don't feel obligated to read it all in one sitting- use it as a guideline if you're drawing a blank or need some contextual information as I've essentially compiled every piece of information that's relevant to our civilization.)Our Current Bestiary: http://pastebin.com/TWY0QfWA (Please have a look, but don't feel obligated to read it in one sitting- it's VERY extensive and currently in "alpha" since I'd like to make an illustrated pdf.)Last time Mycea died in order to enact her plan, we investigated and begun to document the distinct schools of magic and cultural characteristics of the growing occultism, and new inventions and innovations; bells, floating carts, and all manner of goodies!>+Long Term Trends have been updated in the stats as per usual; go have a look at them. Short term trends (specific to this session) will continue to be posted here.>-Ecological/Environmental Development: Mycea begins to rot.>Mycea's body has begun the initial stages to be attributed, broken down, and returned to the land and as a result: The warm, golden, luminescent, fluid known as mana is starting to pour and bleed directly from her entirety and is channeling out into the water ways and surrounding area. It does not appear to have any visible effect on the land, but animals seem to find it just as delicious as you do and it's done wonders for the health of the local fresh water fish population.(2nd post incoming, please be patient.)
>+Environmental Development: Green Tide>The Ocean closer to the shores and areas of your islands have slowly started to turn a much healthier and brighter shade of "green" and the deep, empty, shade of blue they once were is beginning to wane. The Reefs within the area are growing larger and expressing richer and more vivid colours. The water seem to overflow with marine life: Plesiosaurs and Seals cover the beaches in unforeseen numbers, fish and shellfish displays such abundance and size that they breach the tide, and flocks of sea birds and pterodactyls seem to be more common than clouds these days- attracted and swarming these large "growths" that wash upon shore- their identities smothered by being covered in the rampant growth of Shellfish, Kelp, and Corals. >-Mycea's absense is missed. The Keeper of the grove: Kush, goes on a rampage.Kush was a Keeper of the Grove: an animal blessed by Mycea for their maturity and honor and assigned great power and isolated among their kind to tend to the land. Kush can no longer sense Mycea's presence. Kush is still just a simple Triceratops. Kush's sad bleats of loneliness and confusion echo across the grove; "Why have you abandoned me, my lord? Why?" Kush does not understand, he is an animal. Sadness turns to confusion and confusion fuels frustration and anger. Kush is using his great physical force and innate magical ability to rampage across the land in an effort to receive any kind of acknowledgement from his absent god. >-Personal development: Akalade shuts himself in. >Akalade has taken a complete and total heel-turn and despite his fear and paranoia; has isolated himself from everyone and is now hiding within is home and refuses to acknowledge anyone. The people who bring him food and drink notice he's started wearing his suit even within his home and feverishly distracts himself with work. Someone is obviously wrong, but Akalade refuses to tell anyone- or even be seen for that matter. (Okay, you may roll)
>>38068246>>38068289Woops, forgot my Trip; sorry, sorry.I'll wait a bit for people to siphon in, etc..Roll are still: Actions d20, Ideas d100. 2 Actions and 1 Idea will be picked/ 3 rolls.
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>38068289Ok a lot going on here. First things first, let us send out sages and heroes to help calm Kush down. We should bring dinosaur tribe gorgons as well if possible. Maybe we can sing songs to communicate how Mycea has chosen to leave, but can return one day in time.
Rolled 5 (1d20)>>38068332Attempt to Calm Kush.
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>38068332Study what causes monsters to appear and attempt to solve the problem instead of deal with the symptom of said problem.
Rolled 53 (1d100)>>38068289Study some physics. It'll come in handy.
>>38068289So should we set up an opposition to demonology?I mean we're pretty okay with all occult studies as long as they're safe, but Mycea seemed to suggest Demonology is the one that should not be tolerated.And my question is wether to do this now or later. and wether its an Idea or an Action.
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>38068289Send heroes and diplomats to the manticore and dinosaur tribes. The manticore are probably deep in mourning at the moment- they loved Mycea as much if not more so then us. We should talk to them about uniting, to act as a counter balance against the gorgon empire. Remind the manticores how Mycea always acted with love and unconditional acceptance to persuade them to stop raiding and other aggressive acts. Phrase instead that they can still exercise their fearsome mastery of poisons, silent moving, and assassination by working as guides and protecting travelers rather then waylaying them. Extend to the dinosaurs our economic aid, and convince them that any long standing feuds the two tribes have can be patched up. They will be able to accomplish great things together- the manticores mastery of herbal remedies could be combined with the dinosaurs knowledge of animals in a hundred different ways.>cyclopean diplomats feel a little bit miffed that the Spider tribe has abandonded their pact of friendship with the dinosaurs that we helped broker
Lurking, maybe I'll post later, still need to catch up on like five threads.
>>38068542Get ready for some feels anon.
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>38068402Seconding.
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>38068524Supporting, maybe we can work that into the >>38068402 command, since A) the dinosaur is a powerful beast the dinosaur tribe respects, and B) because the manticores respect mycea, having a creature blessed by mycea might help create this mutual understanding.
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>38068524Supporting this
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>38068289try to calm down poor Kush
>>38068507I think it's an idea. I'm going to post some current things we have been working on. >Help Akelade adjust after the death of his husband. Protect him. >Unite the gorgon tribes to act as a counterweight to the Empire>convince the Mother Hydra to be less dickish >continue to press influence out into the plains, establish more contact with its inhabitants (changelings, ant men and other unknowns) >re-establishing contact with mermen. Find out what impact Mycea's actions have had >try to find some way to resurrect or at least speed the recovery of Mycea >Integrate occultists into cyclopean society, try to dissuade demonologists from persuing their studies
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>38068289also, try to dissuade the demonologists (I believe that's the name..sorry if it isn't) from their crazy plans, if it scared Mycea it can't be good...
>>38068576That's a good idea. I propose we treat >>38068402as part of the idea proposed in >>38068524A sort of trust building exercise between the gorgon tribes, uniting them in common interest
How can we help Akalade?
>>38068663Everyone in support of calming down kush as part of a way to unite the dinosaur and manticore tribes?
Rolled 18 (1d20)>re-establishing contact with mermen. Find out what impact Mycea's actions have had "Hey I know we just killed your god, but maybe we can be friends now."I dunno i think we should hold off for a little bit. I mean before Mycea's plan the merfolk were gathering metal for an unknown purpose. Stuck me as some antagonistic actions. Maybe we should give them some time, so they can splinter like the Gorgon empire did.
Does comparing the mana from the sun bolt and the mana from mycea require a roll?
>>38068720I... didn't mean to roll there.
>>38068753Well what are you using the roll for? Contact with the mermen or something else?
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>38068289Remember those different movements from last thread? Let's apply them.Theologists are free to do their thing, so long as they're careful. They should remember the sages that studied the universe and returned blind, wrote a tome, then fell into a comma for the rest of their lives.Necromancers apply their knowledge to the fields of medicine, agriculture, investigation, and help the dead find rest and the living closure.Eldritch study forms Occult Police and Exorcists, dealing with monsters, magic, the supernatural, ect.. Their first task is to find out what those necromancers are doing exactly. We can talk to those guys right after.
Rolled 12 (1d20)Try to find a peaceful solution between the gorgon empire and the Manticore tribe. Explore the greivances between them
>>38068630>convince the Mother Hydra to be less dickish We definitely need to do this. Maybe through a play or great work of literature?
Rolled 38 (1d100)We've formalized the different magic schools right?Can we get a laboratory or a school set up for them all for their experiments so they don't need to keep hanging out in abandon houses?I want a magic school
>>38068789I was just trying to talk about the whole. "Should we talk to the merfolk thing". not trying to roll for anything. But its a good roll might as well use it to support something.Like maybe >>38068576 this. Or >>38068807Or maybe what you said, contacting the merfolk somehow, or checking up on them.
>>38068858Well pick whichever you like. It is your roll
So I was thinking of one thing we could for those who rever/respect/love Mycea. Since we know she may come back, they could gather round the stone circle on some nights, the one we created to bring her peace while she was healing, and sing songs in it's tune to the stars as a way to let her know she's missed, possibly to update her on big developments for our people, and just to sooth her spirit while she's resting. Possibly as part of a larger holiday/day of mourning.
>>38068898I'll go with >>38068576 then. This whole roll with Kush needs all the help it can get.
>>38068948that sounds like a good idea.
Rolled 14 (1d100)form a city based around love, communication and civility, in honor of Mycea
Rolled 13 (1d20)ask the dinosaur tribe to help us with calming Kush, because who else?
>>38068996We already have that. It's Mycea's Grove.
>>38069016oh whoops..thanks anon, sorry for being a derp.
>>38068402>>38068407>>38068625>>38068575>Attempt to Calm down Kush; with the assistance of the Dinosaur Tribe if possible.>Roll ! 14+14 Twin rolls !>Kush counter Roll 11>Success, met with resistance. Kush is a proud animal: He has outlived many other beasts through the course of generations, he has stood back and watched with unbiased eyes as he's respected the course of nature- watching the sick, weak, and young to be culled, eaten, and left to die- often by the jaws of the Therasaur as it proudly roars over it's kill. This is life. This was his life; his only equals the shivering and waning of fungal trees and tropical palms in the breeze.. and at one point in time; the love and guidance his god Mycea brought him.Kush is not happy, "What cruel irony is this? I am not fit for this world- why did you make me this way? Why did you bless me with the knowledge of life and death; only to abandon me? You who were supposed to be Eternal? You who were my strength, my moral compass- WHAT SICK JOKE IS THIS?! I DID NOT ASK TO BE ANOINTED." (Dinosaur Tribe roll and results incoming.))
>>38069062nows not the time to get existential kush baby.
maybe in the next round of rolling we should chart out the path of the changling nomads. Establish more "Constant" trade and contact.
So what should we do with Mycea's rotting stalk? I think it'd honor her nature if we simply collected it and used it as fertilizer. She was the demi-god of decay and renewal, after all. Although there might be some greater use for it.
>>38069316Could quite easily absorb him into our civ as a part of our mycea worship, and explain what happened.>>38069383Hold a massive competition to grow the biggest plant using it as fertalizer? Or we could study it.
>>38069383Isn't it already decaying into mana? Could the mana be used as fertilizer? Maybe we can use it to spread her presence out into the savannah. Using mana to cultivate the arid waste.
>>38069413The mana seems to be more a benefit to animal life. It was said it doesn't seem to have a visible effect on the land.
Rolled 92 (1d100)>>38068854>Seconding this roll. But expanding it.>We need to formalize the Necromancers into the Order of Mycea, have them take over overseeing the fungal forest and the city she ruled over once.>Other shit we should be doing1) We need to move our primary population center into Mycea, turn it into a proper bread basket for us.2) See about fully incorporating the Manticore tribe into our own. We could use their military expertise.3) Form the Druids into an order specifically to defend against elder god elderitch knowledge.4) Begin construction of theological observatories in the mountains.5) Give Fucking Elf boy there the damn seed from Mycea and let him go save his fucking planet.6) begin forming a coalition between the various races.7) Up trade with changlings to get an economic boom to make a new temple housing in the center of Mycea, our new wonder.
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>38068854Seconding this.
>>38069532I don't know about moving the population all the way to Mycea. It's in the gorgon tribe/empire region of the world, and the home islands already have a wonder city in the arcanumAkelade needs love and understanding. We have to reach him some way or another, to help him. I think he might be tormented by visions of the Deep One
>>38068854Not so fast. We still need to deal with demonology. It needs to be stopped. It was the last thing Mycea warned us about.
>>38069062>Dinosaur Tribe Counter Roll 20>Complete unquestionable success. The Cyclopean Citizens and Sage Council of Mycea's Grove are extremely concerned about the well being and fate of Kush; he is to an -extent- part of the legacy of Mycea and his problems are Mycea's problems and therefor your problems. You don't however get a chance to directly solve the problem as it seems the Dinosaur Tribe has beat you to the chase: An entire procession of Dinosaur Tribe shamans, druids, and holy women had immediately made a pilgrimage to attend to the presence and problem of "kush". They are a cert, honest, and quiet people whom speak through deeds; they make no great entrance and the only way you're made of aware of their coming is the soft chorus of their drums and bells.They are lead by a massive Gorgon. She is a giant among their kind and towers over them- even taller than some of your own cyclopean people. Her massive frame is supported by lean and taunt muscle, her hair is kept tied and short- along with her snakes, but her most defining trait is the indiscreet air of spirituality that she seems to exume and the large, hanging, black horns that grow from the sides of her heads like the rack on the Dinosaurs her tribe honors.The Gorgon and Kush briefly exchange glances before they wrestle with one another; their match lasts hours and it ends with the Gorgon grappling kush and laying him down onto his side 'till he is submissive.Kush is then fed fruits, supple vegetation, meaty fungi, and treated to a small saucer of mana. His divinity seems to slowly wane: the power he exhumed is relinquished, the awareness and intelligence present in his eyes fades, and his last moments are spent nuzzled in the lap of that Giant Gorgon- being petted, happily bleating, before the strength fades from him and his mortality catches up with him to join his master.(Happy Triceratop bleats fro reference: youtube.com/watch?v=LNCC6ZYI3SI )
>>380695321) No? having the population spread out as is, works fine.2) Agree, but we would have to turn them more peaceful, our cultures conflict in key areas3) Might want to expand shamanistic practices for this, druids are more natural world than spiritual, even if it overlaps4) good idea.5) i doubt he will open up any time soon6) kind of already happened for us were it matters, no real need to formalize it until a threat appears7) Upping trade would do better if we build an outpost on the edge of the savanna to help, or hell, actually invent shoes so roads are easier to travel than soft earth.
>>38069648Agreed we need to nip that in the bud.>>38069639I'm saying moving OURSELVES mostly into it. Mycea was given to US and only Cyclops were allowed permanent residence. We need to cement that control left to us. Invite the Manticores in as full citizens of our empire if they're willing to give up all the rapine and pillaging, we really do need a strong military in case the merpeople come for us.I'm not saying abandon the Arcanum, I'm saying make Mycea our second big city. It's also more central to our empire.
>>38069677>7) Upping trade would do better if we build an outpost on the edge of the savanna to help, or hell, actually invent shoes so roads are easier to travel than soft earth.I like this. We should invent roads and shoes.
>>380695321) I disagree.2) I doubt we could support it and there would be massive culture shock.3) Elder god knowledge wasn't the particularly dangerous one. Demonology is.4) Sure, but why the mountains?5) There'd be no point. He has no pod anymore.
>>38069764>4) Sure, but why the mountains?Mountain observatories get clearer images of the skies.>5) There'd be no point. He has no pod anymore.Thought it was used as a basis for the attack and now we can have it back?Even if we don't make Mycea THE major population center for ourselves. I still think moving lots of people there to be second only to the Arcanum would be a fantastic idea, since it could produce enough food to allow our population to explode and give us a major economic boom.
>>38069676Mad respect for that. We couldn't have done that better ourselves
>>38069698It's already a big city though. And with how much the cyclopeans love Mycea, it's only going to get bigger.
>>38069532>1Not super sure about this. I mean, we should definitely develop that area, but we seem to have a lot invested on our starting island and "First" colony. We have the arcanum built there. and we've also got the bone bridge tying them together. >2) Now this I'd be quite a fan of. We aren't naturally violent or suspicious but I do predict we may need some military prowess some time in the future, and the Manticores have that in spades. If incorporating them will make us more formidable, maybe we can rub off on them, perhaps culling some of their less palatable tenancies. >3) Druids are Eldritch Cultists by nature though, so it strikes me as training "firemen" by giving them a bunch of matches and telling them to burn things to better understand how fire burns things. It may need some "protector" or monster hunter/exorcist caste as well, just to keep things in check. >4) Not opposed to this. Like at all. Hell might be an idea to have outposts in the mountains proper especially as we head out into the savannas more. >5) We owe him this much anyways. But poor guy has no way to get back any more since we used the ship to murder the Deep Eye. >6) Again, a big No brainer. But I don't know if we have the respect quite yet. >7) Frankly we should see if we can bring the changlings our way. They're nomadic, and seemed to have mostly dwelled in the desert, wonder how they'd feel about seeing us all settled down? Imagine what it be like for them to taste some of the sedentary lifestyle.
>>38069764Depending on what they're actually doing, we could re-purpose demonology to study and defend against the 'Red World'.
>>38069824Dinosaur tribe is pretty bro.We need to keep their culture distinct from the Empire's.
>>38069868it's too bad they and the spider tribe didn't grow closer together, considering how we pushed them together.now who will buy our fancy moths?
>>38069811There is literally no point moving folks there. we are the only people who live there, and it will develop in population as time goes on anyway. We can restrict others moving in by citing the law of mycea/holy site, for living there anyway. Visiting is fine.
>>38069901Maybe we should invest in Dinosaur and Manticore cultures?Pay for their services and encourage them to keep doing what they're doing?
>>38069852>Now this I'd be quite a fan of. We aren't naturally violent or suspicious but I do predict we may need some military prowess some time in the future, and the Manticores have that in spades. If incorporating them will make us more formidable, maybe we can rub off on them, perhaps culling some of their less palatable tenancies.The Manticores ALREADY like us a lot. I think they'd be open to the idea of switching from being hated by everyone to having lots of fun and sexy times and permission to beat the crap out of people and things that threaten us?>Druids are Eldritch Cultists by nature though, so it strikes me as training "firemen" by giving them a bunch of matches and telling them to burn things to better understand how fire burns things. It may need some "protector" or monster hunter/exorcist caste as well, just to keep things in check. Firemen are trained in how to start fires as well as end them since it's important to know how fire works.And if we don't move people there, can we atleast spend an action focusing on everyone there making babies and turning it into a massive as fuck bread basket for our people?
>>38069864Without her guidance, I'd rather we just didn't tamper with it. She wouldn't have told us to leave it alone if there weren't a good reason.
>>38069951It'd also swell our gorgon population hugely. Something the Hydra Mother might take advantage of at some point.
>>38069967AgreedWe need to bring the red planet cultists to us, tell them her words on the subject, ask them to justify themselves, then work to convince them this is not the way to help people.
>>38070007we could say we focus on breeding cyclops primarily?Besides, from what I've read. The Hydra Mother is a tsunderebro.
>>38069967>>38070009Really we need to develop arcane to a degree that it can contain and protect against demonology if shit should go awry, well before even starting its research.
Guys do we have mudbrick/adobe construction yet? I think that might be crazy useful in the Savannah since we don't quite have as much large slabs of rocks to use, or jungles to take cover in. Building from mud bricks and dirt/water might be our way of getting deeper into that uncharted territory.
>>38070041Unenforcable and sort of counter to the whole 'free love' culture of the Cyclops.
>>38070077We're past mudbrick. We build a giant ziggerat city.
>>38070077We can just use magic to pull homes out of the earth really. And I think we've long had the tech for mudbrick anyway.
>>38070079true. But really, our halfbreed gorgon population seems primarily loyal to us rather than to the hydramother, so I don't see the issue.Also, we need to give the sun some respect. Get his guidance on these things.
>>38070077I think we have mudbrick, not sure if it translates into adobe
With the manticores:Exert influence to turn their culture into more a sports like affair, and then encourage them to teach it and develop it. A la, Ninja gorgon village.
We're already allied with the Manticores. I don't see a reason to go through the effort of trying to incorporate them.
>>38070096>>38070122>>38070143True, but we really need to focus that into a more "utilitarian" way if we want to expand into the sunbaked savanna. And yeah Mudbrick doesn't exactly translate into adobe (to my knowledge). I'd like to see us build up like in that first image, pulling homes from the ground. Maybe even temples like this.
>>38070226Because the empire and the dinosaurs hunt and kill them, we incorp, we can have a mutually beneficial relationship without a threat to them disappearing. Having sneaky friends is invaluable.
>>38070225>>38070226They're not allies, they're friends, and we NEED a strong military incorporated into ourselves to defend against the Merpeople.We're on much better terms with them than just about anybody else except maybe the Empire, so if we want to preserve and protect them, we need to incorporate.
>>38070261>>38070226Plus their knowledge of herbology and necromancy We just need to help change them from raiders to something more peaceful
>>38070226well the thing is Manticores have some stuff in their culture that is just straight up iffy if left unchecked. They're approach to leadership ascendancy is "You Kill It, You Keep It". They've got a bit of violence and death fetishism, in their veins, despite it being rooted in some cyclopean philosophical truth (they view death as part of a natural cycle and revere the moon and stars, but as such in their perception unnatural death, like by murder, is okay too.)
>>38068524>Alleviate and better understand the political situation with the remaining Gorgon Nations through diplomacy. >Twin Rolls 7+7 >LUCKY DOUBLE 7'S>Not success, but not necessarily failure either: Interesting results. The political situation between the three remaining Gorgon nations/Cultures seems to have become quite heated and tension is slowly rising between the various communities. From what your people understand in their position of an unbiased third party, the following conditions and motivations have been made aware:>The Manticore Tribe: A new age of brutality.>"God has blossomed; her voice is silenced and with this she reminds us that death is eternal and inescapable. Just how the Spores of God rain down and cover the land, as our tears once did for the mourning of her absence- we must stand strong; let blood begat more blood, let the art of killing, treachery, and mayhem shine and define give purpose to our lives. The Hydra mother is a false god. She encapsulate mortality." The Manticore tribe has gone into nomadic seclusion; they number in the thousands, but they remain unseen and only come out to trade with your kind or to commit raids against the Gorgon empire. You still remain "friends".>The Dinosaur Tribe: A new leader brings forth a myriad of progress & aggressive change.>The Dinosaur tribe doesn't seem to emulate the same herding culture they once were hundreds of years ago: their entire culture now expresses a feeling of military and economic strength as they've begun to be led by a mysterious new chieftain who remains unidentified. They've started purchasing large quantities of Iron from your Civilization (to the point where they've become quite a lucrative trading partner); while building small forts and tending nomadic war camps that seem to be sprouting up. Your relationship with them has grown significantly: trade and contact is lucrative and booming, but they're definitely plotting something.
>>38070283We have no real allies, the concept, quite like war, has not come up.Im all for shifting their culture towards a more.. ninja style thing, and incorporating them into our collective. Since it protects them and us.
>>38070283Most of the time we have no contact with them. We don't even know what the merpeople are doing right now. For all we know we just did them a massive favor. I don't see the need to militarize
>>38070349Well, this isn't good.
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>38070349>>"God has blossomed; her voice is silenced and with this she reminds us that death is eternal and inescapable. Just how the Spores of God rain down and cover the land, as our tears once did for the mourning of her absence- we must stand strong; let blood begat more blood, let the art of killing, treachery, and mayhem shine and define give purpose to our lives. The Hydra mother is a false god. She encapsulate mortality." The Manticore tribe has gone into nomadic seclusion; they number in the thousands, but they remain unseen and only come out to trade with your kind or to commit raids against the Gorgon empire. You still remain "friends".We begin to go out to them, try to convert them to a more peaceful path. We need strong defenders for our people, people to teach us how to fight and defend ourselves. They do not have to worship any god they choose not to, but why bring about death when love and good times are so much better? They can follow their creeds in a more peaceful manner with us.
>>38070395Incoming Manticore V Dino War
>>38070408wait for more rolls to be called.
>>38070316I know, which is why incorporating them seems like a really bad idea to me. A lot of their culture, especially since this update, is totally counter to our own.
>>38070316>"let blood begat more blood, let the art of killing, treachery, and mayhem shine and define give purpose to our lives. The Hydra mother is a false god. She encapsulate mortality.">>38070349Yup. Like I said, they like us. But we might not like them. Called it.
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>38070408>>38070349Remind the gorgons OF ALL TRIBES that Mycea was first and foremost a creature of peace, love and understanding.(Also we pretty much saved her all by ourselves so give us some respect, come on.)There's no way she would endorse any kind of war or strife
>>38070349We need to support the Dinosaur tribe over all others.We cannot let the Gorgon Empire absorb the dinosaur tribe.
>>38070476yes but they're sort of "spiritually" aligned. And seem like the most likely to join up with us should we offer. or well.. they "Were" the most likely to join up with us. Past tense.
>>38070408They just dedicated their entire civ to death and war. How easy or even possible do you think trying to convince them to approach life more like we do is going to be?
>>38070476Then we just need to push some of our values and ideals. Or mollify some of theirs. Its not a case of never, just a long time.Teach our version of mycea's teachings.
>>38070518I don't see that. We have much more in common with the dinosau tribe. And they're now much larger and quite strong, militarily.
>>38070485Indeed to say that she would try support treachery and mayhem is to dishonor her memory and everything she worked for. I am dissapoint in the manticores
>>38070539I think we can redeme them. Just like we can redeem those who follow the red planet.
>>38070594>Cyclops forgive demons and offer them salvation
>>38070485Frankly I think we should try to prevent/mitigate this war as much as possible. But should it break out, we avoid taking a side. Go all America on this thing. Wait on the sidelines until it either >Seems like someone who doesn't have our best interests at heart starts to get the upper hand.or >Until we are personally attacked in some way.A war amongst the gorgons might allow for some change to take place. The Gorgon empire might lose more power, The Hydra Mother could come to depend on us again. The tribes might consolodate their power or ally themselves to eachother (in some form).
>>38070610Yep. Eventually. One step at a time. First the Manticores and the Demonologists. Then demons themselves.
>>38070594Maybe, but I don't agree that should be done by just offering them a place in our civ. They're less like us now than they've ever been.
>>38070633Maybe we should consider researching holy magic and spells that purify.
Can we do some exploration? Where could we go?
>>38070610I'd rather act on the only information wexhave on them right now and that is that even if their hearts are in the right place, this is something we should turn away from.
>>38070569We can do both. I'm still rooting for a solution where everyone is friends.The gorgon tribes and empire pretty much owe us big timeWe helped them out when the elves disappeared- we practically were propping up what was left of the old empire. If it wasn't for us the hydra mother would have no one to rule, and would be hundreds of years away from a proper incarnation, if anyone remembered her at all that isWe saved Mycea, we helped revitalized her and supported her while the Manticores were still busy stabbing each other in the backs. We've been strong trading partners with the dinosaurs and remain committed to preserving their independence in short- A DEBT IS OWED AND WE HAVE COME TO COLLECT
>>38070674Explore along the coast of the mainland possible look for Islands?
>>38068436>Study the Origins of Monsters: Solve the problem, not the symptoms.>Roll 13/100>Comp- 13. ROLLED A 13 ON SPIRIT.>+Unusual Failure. Monsters are something of a common occurrence within your society; common enough that one of the obligations of the Sage's council is to deal with the presence of Monsters, either through appeasement or destruction if need be. The problem though is that no one really knows where monsters "come from": Monsters definitely have some sort of connotation or association with culture as monsters seem to be restricted to societies/cultures, with each sufficiently advanced culture somehow "producing" their own.. but their origins remain obscured.>- Spritiual development: Monsters now present on mainland communities->This includes your city on the "tip" as well as Mycea's grove.>-New Monster: Echoe of Mycea>This spirit takes the transparent and vague appearence of Mycea's humanoid form. The spirits personal features seem to change from person to person, but they all recognize the being as "Mycea". Typically slowly walking in from the jungle's morning mist, their ethereal forms often draped in a gown of fungal growth; they almost always materialize before the elderly or farmers -causing predictable emotional responses-. Echoes are afraid of fire and exclusive to rural areas within Mycea's grove. There's rumors they kidnap people.
Ahhhlright, that's 3!Go ahead guys: you may now roll for new actions.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>38070858once again.Theologists are free to do their thing, so long as they're careful. They should remember the sages that studied the universe and returned blind, wrote a tome, then fell into a comma for the rest of their lives.Necromancers apply their knowledge to the fields of medicine, agriculture, investigation, and help the dead find rest and the living closure.Eldritch study forms Occult Police and Exorcists, dealing with monsters, magic, the supernatural, ect.. Their first task is to find out what those necromancers are doing exactly. We can talk to those guys right after.
>>38070690>Cyclops get all the gorgons together in a big room and talk>They start out how proud they are to be friends with all of them, how much they respect and admire their different traits and how much joy it brought them to help whenever and however they could>but, they say with a hint of sadness, we also can't help but notice how out of all the joy of creation and trade there is beginning to become an undercurrent of hate, of fear and servitude. >The cyclops remind them how they were once ground under the heel of elven colonialism, and how the cyclops did everything in their power to break them free, and to support them in the years that followed>Now, to see them restart these ideas makes the cyclops so DISAPPOINTED>It hurts them to see their friends bicker and squabble, and even more so to see them pursue this course when so many better, brighter options are offered, of how it hurts them to hear that the memory of their dear friend Mycea is being used to support strife and mayhem.>The cyclops then go on to point out that it would be terrible, simply terrible, to have to watch all the progress made be lost in death and war >but if the gorgons pursue this course they cannot stop them. They will wait however long it takes- thousands of years if necessary>And they will pick up the pieces and rebuild the gorgon civilization and perhaps, next time they will be more wise and remember the words of their friends
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>38069589>>38069532>>38068854trying for this again
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>38070858Explore north along the coast of the mainland
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>38070858Diplomance Dinosaurs hard! Try to get in on whatever they are planning.Also, force Akalade to come out of his fucking room.
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>38070858Try to convince the demonolgy cults to give up their ways.
Rolled 18 (1d100)>>38070890supporting too
Rolled 96 (1d100)>>38070858Idea:Identity tattoos/markings.Essentially a way to record a person down for official business (e.g. contracts), use in law and judgement, and for family trees.Everyone gets a family symbol, and their own personal that they design.
Rolled 50 (1d100)>>38070890I'll support as well.
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>38070818Help Akelade. Get as close to him as he will permit and remind him that he is not alone. he is part of a family. People care and love for him, and want to help him however they can. The faces and names may change but as long as he remains among the cyclopians he will be part of the family and he will always be loved
>>38070890thats a whole lot of ideas at once man. Maybe limit it to one at a time, maybe one or two of them can succeed. Rather than try them all at once and have them all fail.
>>38070921So like the facial markings of the Turiens in Mass Effect?
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>38070944Supporting
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>38070944helping Akelade
>>38070890Voting against. Far too many ideas. Some of which are far too vague.
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>38070858Build a trading post for changelings and ant-people to frequent.
>>38070921You are trying to make a caste system? Opposing.
Rolled 99 (1d100)Idea, utilize adobe construction, and create shady homes in the savannas. Perhaps using mana or fungal growth to promote shady trees in the new fronteir.
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>38070952I just meant that Magic school, everything else can wait
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>38070897Supporting
>>38070981>>38070980Yes!>>38070997Well, I guess there's this too...
Rolled 13 (1d20)Try to figure out the Changling nomadic path. Establish trade routes. create cities. Maybe invite them into the jungle lands?
>>38070962Kind of, but the personal symbol can be anywere.The idea is for official records, contracts, law judgement (having more complex laws, e.g. vs pedophilia) and because its a tattoo or marking, we can use for the marking system for the worst criminals.>>38070994No? no castes at all, These are official written names, not spoken ones. This should help immensely in various areas, including law.
>>38070921Opposing. Runs counter to the strong dislike for individualism inherent in cyclopean culture.
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>38070818Remind the manticores that Mycea was and always will be a spirit of peace. That her legacy should be one of love and respect, not murder and mayhem. That it hurts us to see them dishonor her memory in such a fashion and that if they continue we will no longer consider them our friends. That if they really wanted to honor Mycea's memory they would work with others, not against them. That cooperation ahs been and always will be more profitable then murder. That WE were the ones who saved Mycea and that they were all too busy stabbing each other in the back at the time. And that we will just have to hand these lenses that allow them to concentrate their magical stares to someone more responsible, like the dinosaurs or the empire, if they don't change their ways
>>38070876Well I like this.
>>38071029whats wrong with expanding into the savanna? Hell with a roll that good something especially awesome must happen. Like instantly making a big defensible city? or transplanting some flora?
>>38071034>>38071049I say names, they are just symbols that represent that person at that time in history.The use would also help us to determine the laws of inheritance and genetic diseases among our people.
>>38071068Nothing is wrong with expanding to the savanna, it's just that we can do better than mud bricks.
>>38070890Opposing. That many ideas at once isn't even allowed. I hope.
>>38071098Not all those ideas, just the primary one at the top of the list. Not all 8 of the damn things.Also I think we should consolidate our holds on the mountains and jungles before we expand into the savahana
>>38071098>>38070990>>38070952Would the idea be ok with out the second dudes list? I just want a nice school for the magic fields
>>38070890Opposing. I dislike 1.
>>38071084I only suggest mudbricks because anything else that we'd usually build with would get harder and harder to come by the further in we get. We have stone slabs because of the mountains and mines nearby. if we go further in, its gonna get harder to cart that up. Plus we summon Stones and minerals from the earth don't we? Imagine just "Singing" houses of adobe into existence. and then building them up fortifying them. We already do awesome stone work, imagine the structures we can make with pragmatic usage of limited resources available.
>>38070897Supporting. Maybe see about trading for breeding pairs of domesticated animals they have that we don't.
>>38070921I like it. It gives us a way to identify each other without having to rely on names so it doesn't run counter to collective spirit
>>38070997opposing until we consolidate and expand our holdings in the jungles and mountains.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>38071170Forgot my Roll.
>>38071151We should be ideally rolling for one-twoish idea at a time. That was just a whole big list. If you like something out of said list. Mention it and roll for the idea. (Some of the things on that list were actions by the way.)
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>38070897Support
>>38071151It seems to promote equal study of all the schools. I feel that demonology should be left out.
>>38071155>>38071151>>38071098>>38070990>>38070952Guys. Forget all of the ideas in the list. When I wrote that list, I didn't even mean it to be included in the roll. I just wanted to formalize the necromancers to oversee the fungal jungles that Mycea left behind, that's all.
>>38071186i-i didn't know opposing was a thing. I'm definitely not against it. Especially if it prevents things like the Parrat Civ extermination. But "better" cities/convienent building techniques to better live in the frontier? There are worse things to oppose.
>>38071246Then anon, in future, please clarify properly. Because this is just a confusing mess now.
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>38070897SUPPORTINGDO I need to roll to support?
Rolled 84 (1d100)Right starting againTrying to set up a school or Laboratory for the Magic occult schools with the exception of demonology
>>38071305Sounds good. Let's talk to the demonologists though about how bad this stuff is coming across to us. Last thing we want to do is push them underground
>>38071305Ok, now this i can support.
>>38071289Agh, did my support roll just damage our chances with the dinosaur tribes? I wanted the opposite of that
>>38071289Well, good thing your roll came way after every other roll, so it shouldn't couunt.
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>38071305>>38071335>>38071339>>38071348Glad the confusion is all cleared up
>>38070890>>38070907>>38070913>>38070933>>38070990>Formalize and accept the trending schools of magical study from occultism>Roll 50/100 met with overwhelming census.>Minimum Success +Racial Bonus, +Cultural Bonus.Occultism has "slowly" been nipped in the bud through more progressive social efforts: Necromancy, Theology, and Elderitch study are all seeing slow, steady, and "safe" acceptance as well as practice in good and wholesome society. The acceptence and translation of these occultist studies to more formal teachings within the halls and councils of the arcanum have lead to numerous and wide reaching benefits within society:>+Medicial practices dramatically increased+>Necromancy is the other half of healing magic and covers many of the problems of using "pure" healing magic to treat problems. Necromancy for example is iconic for it's ability to better assist dentistry; healing magic can cause extremely painful results as teeth are "grown" back; forcing adult teeth to be forced out, become impacted or crooked- it like wise can also grows back "tusks". Necromancy brings "sophistication" to many magical medical practices.>+Agricultural and Environmental conditions dramatically improved+ >Both Necromancy and proper Elderitch druidic practices provide an awareness of proper crop-rotation methods concerning the complex relationship between fungal and plant growth. Necromancy also allows the creation of FERTILIZERS. (demonology in next post)
>>38071335I dunno. For all we know these Demonologists might be straight up possessed. so reasoning with "Demons" trying to control people, about why they as "People" shouldn't consort with "demons" seems kind of like telling a hindu why eating pork is great.
>>38071305Supporting. But with specific focus on the Necromancers forming into an order called the Order of Mycea, focusing on maintaining her creations in the city and preventing them from getting out of hand.
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>38071305>>38071401forgot dice roll.
>>38071401Solar Priesthood of the Golden BoltCult of the Weeping Sageand now Order of Mycea.Goodness we're collecting quite the collection of names of things.
>>38071460And Wardens of the Ancient Graves for Druids/Elderitch Lore.
>>38071460The Brotherhood of Crucibles for Alchemy.
>>38071305I hope you didn't just screw us over by forgetting to leave out demonology the first time.
>>38071560To be fair demonology sounds really fucking scary, especially if it freaked Mycea out. It might have something to do with the presence of monsters. The red world is either another planet in our system, or a psychic concurrent reality (a la Emerald Dream) full of horrible things.That said, should we let her panic and fear taint us? Or should we convert our demonologists into a daring first defense against the darkness?
>>38071776We find out what they want to achieve first.
>>38071776We should do what she said. Don't tamper with it. More than panic and fear was the certainty that it was something we should leave alone. We have every reason to trust her on this.
>>38071776Speaking of Mycea, we should really invest in some more shaman stuff to talk to these ghosts. If they turn out to actually be benign monsters (unlikely, but lets hope) they could be appreciated and much needed guardians.
>>38071889I bet all of our monster problems have their origin in the Red World and the Mycea spirits are actually some sort of succubi.
>>38071889That would be a good idea. I'll support it in the next round.
>>38072022All the more reason to send shamans if true. Though I don't see why it would be. Spirits are part of the natural world here.
>>38072022If that is the case it might lend some credence to the Red World as some psychic id powered plane of existence a la Event Horizon.
>>38072079I'd believe that.The denizens are probably all Cenobites or something.
>>38072098>>38072079Maybe the Red World is the Elves world after they killed it? The psychic imprint of whatever progenitor that had created their world
>>38072175>the elves we originally encountered are now Dark Elves residing inside the Red World
>>38072234we really need to ask about the elves to Akelade once he gets out of his funk
>>38071375The Demonoligists are not included; they are secluded, they are distinct, and their motives are unusual and the impression and response of Mycea has left a bad taste in the mouth of the Sage council. They agree they can't be ignored, but formal Cyclopean society is benevolent; she says they can be reached, there's no reason to think otherwise. The Demonoligists are personally addressed by a small portion of the Sage council who make the commute to their little group; They make their home adjacent to the volcanic rock and hills on your home island of all places, so it isn't a "long walk".They seem to have been in the middle of constructing some sort of door-way; using Geomancy and Pyromancy to bend and mold Obsidian and black volcanic rock to their will before using hand tools to carve finer details and runes. An arduous and tiring procedure- they welcome a break from their work to talk with the Sage council. The conversation between them is.. brief and quiet; the disapproval of Mycea is mentioned and the Demonoligists look visibly concerned, but they do not display shock or surprise. They remain quiet: answering with short, concise, responses.The Demonoligists tone is apologetic reluctance; they believe what they are doing is for the best, that they must remain committed and in their own way it seems they may not know the full scope of their actions, but they insist, "The Red World Calls." >The Demonoligists have agreed to stop their efforts, but they say, "It is inevitable: across every world, across all creation, The Red world Calls."
>>38072266speaking of which...>>38070980
>>38072437If the Red World brings us busty demons, I'm okay with this.
>>38072437Oh lord they're making a portal
>>38072437"Yes, but call for what? Friendship, or destruction?"
>>38072437Find out more about why the rec world calls. Also, dismantle that gate like structure. The consecrate the area.Also, can we call upon the sun for guidance? Have the demonologists present for the event so if the sun appears, he can address them directly.
>>38072437>The Demonoligists tone is apologetic reluctanceWeird.They're weird. But at least it means at least they likely aren't malicious, despite likely malicious evil things that might come from their actions.
>>38072599We were sure of that. We need more information and the sun's word on this.
>>38072674Consulting the sun defo needs to happen, along with the moon and stars.
>>38072674We really don't though. It's a can of worms we don't have to open. We have no reason to believe it would be benificial to study it, only reasons to believe it's harmful.
>>38072792On the contrary, we could run into other civs who did study it, and would be beneficial as a defensive measure, or maybe a magical fault line split open as a minor portal in this world someplace?Really we are still too magically immature to even poke it yet, unless we really want a red world portal taking over our home island. (if its there). What ever we do, any portal should be on a remote place from our main lands if its ever built.
>>38072873let's ask the demonologists to write down what their studies turned up. If it's purely theoretical it can't hurt us and it'll be god to have the knowledge banked if we need it
>>38072792We need to know enough to make an informed decision. That's why I say we consult the sun, our patron and defender. He would not lead us astray in this matter.
>>38072947perhaps we could ask the gorgon empress about it ? as the reincarnation of the hydra mother she probably have some insight.
>>38070921>Develop Identifying Tattoos >Roll 96/100>Success, +But Cultural standards have.. misinterpreted your intentions. Collectivism exists on an incredibly ingrained level within Cyclopean: to such a degree that having a name is a cultural taboo. People do not have "names", identity is based off of the personal and outwardly context you present within society through actions, skills, and whom one associates with. Personal identity is something very open, fluid, and often changing within society.It doesn't however impeded quantitative information: Cyclopes can keep records and track people though complex and arbitrary methods that at times can seem completely alien to people not within their society.This brings the question of Tattoos: personal, permanent, markings and so forth are something of a "loop hole". Cyclopes do indeed enjoy stylizing and complimenting themselves with personal adornment and this does include tattoos. Tattoos however have seen use for two purposes:>+Non-verbal Casting:Tattoos>Magic is typically expressed through songs known as Hymns; their chorus affecting and altering the world at the behest of the soul. Tattoos though create an interesting loop hole in that they can express hymns or "cast magic" through non-verbal means via intent of the user. >+/- Societal Punishment: Tattooing>Cyclopes do not like to be "truly named"; there's a certain ease of fluidity and casual'ness to their vaguely anonymous society: it greatly assists and provides cohesion between large numbers of people and doesn't allow others to be trivialized or singled out making tension non-existance and feuds next to impossible. To Tattoo someone is a very serious punishment for a very serious crime,as it allows a constant identity and removes someone's cherished freedom of "unbiased judgement". Tattooing is an incredibly harsh punishment as unlike exile or ostracizaion; you often cannot escape tattooing.
>>38072997At this point, I really don't trust the Hydra Mother to do anything other than further her own interests.If she likes the Red World, she'll give us bad information.
>>38072873And what did Mycea say? >You must stop them because I love you and I know you and I know they are doing what the think is best in their hearts. They need to be stoppedIf people won't take the literal word of a God who we know for a fact only had our best interests at heart, then I don't know what to say.
>>38073006Er, sorry, I made that sound contradictory:Tattooing as a punishment is basically, "we're going to tattoo you in so you can WEAR what you've done and remind everyone of what an asshole you are."Vs the more casual/personal tattooing Cyclopes willingly enjoy which is usually just simple iconography that is more vague and expressive.We're reaching a point where culture has very complicated subtle nuances.
>>38073038please note:Other civs may study it. Just because we say no means nothing. Mycea warned us, and she is right, which is why i would not touch it with a barge pole until well into the advanced magics, so we can lock down and reverse anything bad that happens and just generally deal with that shit.Ignoring it does not stop it existing. We are not the only magical beings on this world. These are simple facts.>>38073087Its cool. The none verbal casting will be a great boon to everyone.
>>38073087Note: does this deal with the pedophillia endemic we have been having?
>>38073087Maybe the punsihment tattoos go on the face? Around the eye? Some place exceedingly painful, impossible to remove short of blinding yourself, and immediately visible. I find it unlikely that cyclops would otherwise tattoo that area?
>>38073151I think we should make it apply if it doesn't already. Same for murderers and rapists. These 3 groups undermine the essential trust all cyclops have for one another.
>>38073156I doubt they would make tattooing itself painful, but yeah it would be in a prominent area- the face, the hands, forearm, etcetera
>>38073121I don't think we should operate under the assumption that other civs might study, therefore we should too at some point. We were warned in no uncertain terms that this is something we should not meddle with.
>>38073205Tattoos are painful. I don't think we can avoid that, especially for facial tattoos I imagine.
>>38073245Anon, i understand the worry, but the unknown is more sure to bite you in the ass than heavily prepared and cautiously probed known. We don't even have to investigate it much, just enough to see intent and to develop counter measures for if we should ever need them.
>>38073298And we can probably ask for such measures from the Sun, Moon, and Stars so that we don't have to get much from them otherwise.
>>38073323Well if they give them to us, then i agree fully not to open the portal and prod the beast. I was speaking generally since we do not know if they will be able to.
>>38073298Again, she said even if in their hearts they think it best, you must stop them. Even looking into it with the best intentions was warned against.
>>38070997>>38070991>>38070893>>38071107>Explore and further develop the Plains/Mainlands just north: Trading post, further upgrades, and more dwellings, etc..>Roll 99/100>DOUBLE 99. >Complete success met with interesting resultsThe North, beyond the mountains: it is a land defined by arid plains, unusual mounds which mysterious Ant beings seem to reside within, and a mysterious nation and species of morphic chalk-pale beings known as the changelings. The only solace or sign of relief within these lands is the coasts which host flourishing jungles, but are home to a number of dangerous large mammals and dinosaurs. The Few Cyclopes whom willingly dwell within this Area only do so within close proximity to the road leading beyond the mountain and into the safety of the province of Mycea's Grove: Mostly mining towns, hunting camps, some small agrarian settlements in the jungles and the people whom frequent the trade monolith. Your presence on the savanna has been growing though and the Changelings that frequent your area have become more and more accustomed to your unusual people. Trade has slowly and steadily grown and has brought an assortment of new and interesting items: Cheese, paper books, illustrated literature, wine, as well as a host of grain breads and vegetables. The most interesting thing they've brought -though very rarely- is a strange orange tinted metal they use for some of their tools and weapons as well as their distinctly mammalian livestock you've noticed them herd and go to great efforts to protect: Small, noisy, googly-eyed looking deer with rigged horns and beards called a "goat" as well as much LARGER, wide shouldered, deer with long triceratops like horns and black, red, or white hides that they call an "Aurochs".
>>38073428Look, we need info. If we can't get that without trafficking with the red world? Then we cut this off cold.
>>38073464I wonder what the cyclops thought of cheese when they first saw it.>so you mean you let a bucket of milk rot, wait until it's a yellow paste, and then you eat it?
>>38073485We don't need info, we already know it's bad news. Unless you dare claim that Mycea may have been lying or hiding something.That makes you a heathen.
>>38073680I'm saying that even she wouldn't ask us to be blind. We aren't the only ones being called by thus. We have to know enough to fucking defend ourselves.
>>38073680Info to potentially protect ourselves if we should come across it elsewhere, which in a magical world, is very likely. Are you not getting this concept? Mycea does not dictate what we do, even if we respect her greatly.
>>38073680Mycea probably has been lying from the start, though. We were foolish to trust her.
>>38073655>They try cheese, and to their surprise it's delicious> They decide to experiment with letting other foods rot into pastes> Cyclops civilization is rife with indigestion and food poisoning over the next few months
>>38073719We should try to make elephant cheese. And maybe expand into pastries and cakes.Have we found chocolate yet?
>>38073718Go to hell.
>>38073680>Unless you dare claim that Mycea may have been lying or hiding something.She definitely was hiding the fact that she would die when she would enact her plan. And if it weren't for the fact we eavesdropped on her celestial conversation, she might've been lied to us about what her plan even was too. I don't think she would've lied or hid stuff from us for malicious intent. But she has indeed, LIED and HIDDEN truths from us.
>>38073719WE AM PLAY GOD
>>38073718Actually, direct quote from the OP:>Hold on, hold on. What if she just did something really bad? What if she and the hydra mother conned us?When we found Mycea she had been left for dead; a dried out husk of a god that had been physically and mentally abused for possibly centuries at the behest of a more advanced civilization that simply did not respect her beyond her functional use as a tool. Mycea was saved by you, Mycea was nursed back to health by you, Mycea who had spent a life of abuse, neglect, and manipulation was treated to an insurmountable amount of respect she had never once experienced before in her long, long, life- and you did it without a moments notice and asked for nothing in return.Mycea lived as she died; for other people, but she at the very least died for the people who actually cared about her. If there were ever a being or faction that truly and completely loved your people- it was Mycea.
>>38073718If she has its that "better they don't know" kind of lie parents tell their children. Its a santa claus lie, its the "gone to the farm" lie.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1aro0i_cheese-modern-marvels-discovery-history-food-documentary_tvFood for thought.
>>38073781>hydra motherThat reminds me. We've still yet to get our "Reward" from the hydra mother for helping Mycea kill the deep eye.Snake bitch owes us big time.
>>38073718>Not trusting Mycea>Wanting a gate to the Red World
>>38073885Meh. Our snake-ladies are better than that.
>>38073754it was for our own good, tough, and at her personal loss. We probably should follow her advice blindly, even if it's hard.
>>38073849I say our reward, when we call on it, should be an end to hostilities after we convince the manticore a to join us As a single culture... Or. Correct me if I'm wrong, but births between a cyclops male and a forgo female result in a local born gorgon right? Could we ask her to change her people so it's an equal chance of being either parent's race?
>>38073745Cocoa beans haven't been discovered, at least I don't think so. But elephant cheese sounds delicious. If/when we get around to trading tech with the changelings, we should make sure to ask for cheese making.
>>38073754Given her reaction, she definitely wasn't trying to fuck us over with the info about the red world.
>>38073849Can't forget about that. We should make it an action next turn.
>>38073971>Could we ask her to change her people so it's an equal chance of being either parent's race?or an hybrid third race that can reproduce with both?
>>38073971I'll oppose the first paragraph but we've been hoping for the second, or sometthing like it, for what must be millinea by now.
>>38074015I say we ask her to make it so Gorgons can give birth to children of the race of either parent, left entirely up to chance.
>>38074050I say no hybrids. Our races will continue to be themselves. Not replace either parent's race.
>>38074095I hope to either get gorgons to produce something more cyclops-y or outright produce male cyclops.
>>38070897>>38068669>>38070944>>38070981>Provide support for Akalade; investigate his emotional distress and or reasoning behind ostracizing himself. >Roll 18/20>Overwhelming Success. +Cultural BonusA number of people including Akalade's own adopted family have become more and more concerned with his well being and emotional health due to the recent and abrupt change in attitude and behavior. When Akalade originally came here he was xenophobic, mildly racist, and vocally intolerant of the indigenous culture. However, his heart slowly changed, he found love and at some points even stopped wearing his suit outside.But then he lost love, experienced death, watched as everyone around him grew old and died, and the only thing that remained constant within his life was his work. You come to Akalade's home to try and find out what's wrong: He's locked himself in and has regrown a kind of protective sealed membrane around his room that's much like the one he originally obsessed over. What can only amount to an "intervention"; Akalade's entire family is there to try and get him to come out of his room.It takes a while, but Akalade does eventually come out of his room; he's not wearing his suit though, but instead coming out completely covered in a silk blanket he desperately clings to. His little face peeking out is defined by empty sad eyes that seem to have accepted some fate before he slowly lowers his blanket and shows you what has happened to cause such distress. (part 2 incoming)
>>38074015We should bank it I think. For now let's focus on geting the gorgons to work together and for the hydra mother to be less dickish
>>38074155That'd be a pretty tough birth though. Even cyclops babies must be pretty damn big.
>>38074188Could be that those born from gorgon eggs just grow faster after they've hatched and catch up with normal ones?Also, Gorgons birthing female cyclops and Gorgons alone would work just fine given our lack of monogamy.
>>38074188Well, maybe cyclops-fathered gorgons have gotten bigger over time.And don't gorgons lay eggs anyway?
>>38074170Extra credit? Not a bad idea."So remember that favor you said you owed us but never delivered on? Well, we just got all of your tribes to stop fighting and killing each other. Peace, love, yadda yadda yadda."Narrow eye. "Now about that favor."
>>38074170Pretty much this.Now that Akalade and the demon cult are under control, let's resolve the political situation.Help the Dinosaur tribe with whatever it is planning and show the Hydra Mother she isn't on the right path.
Instead of using our gift for cyclops/gorgon hybrids, which the gods have confirmed as being a bad idea, we should use it to ask for her to be more open, to be kind and receptive. You know, less of a bitch
>>38074170Reading about the hydra-mother through the threads... I really think she's just tsundere as fuck. She is a fertility and maternity goddess. She just has a really hard time acting like she truly loves others. She apparently feels strong maternal feelings for all sapient beings... I'm willing to bet she's torn up as fuck about having to hurt the manticore tribe, but she's gotta fight them given their culture to protect those who have sworn to her.
>>38074304Not hybrids, just children of both species.
>>38074308Maybe she has something like Akelades problem? She has to watch her children die over and over.....
>>38074350That's what I'm thinking. Read her entry in the beastiary.
>>38074308>we compose the ultimate lullaby full of ara-ara and love for one's children; one that makes gorgons weep and hug their daughters>play it to the Hydra Mother
>>38074338That could backfire. It'd give the Gorgon Empire natural born cyclopean sons.
>>38074472I don't see how that's a backfire.
>>38074472Except as far as I know. All cyclops born are between Gorgons who joined us, no cyclops has joined the gorgon empire.
>>38074491Because cyclopeans are the most powerful spellcasters we know of and the Empire is no stranger to war.
>>38074472isn't that what we've been trying with our gorgon waifus?
>>38074511I mean all cyclops-gorgon pairings were between citizens of our empire, not theirs.
>>38074168His ears have become much longer and drawn out, folding slightly within themselves much like a deer's, his forehead seems larger- to the point where a flat wide ridge is beginning to form pushing up his teal hair that he's allowed to grown long and unkempt from isolation. What's more; Akalade is beginning to fill out slightly with greater height, lean muscle definition and a very slightly fuller "chest" expressed in his form as well as a vividly bright-blue patterning beginning to develop in the form of square shaped patterning that dot his cheeks, neck, and shoulders like large freckles. Akalade's face is slightly sharper, with subtly more prominent cheek bones- He's very quick to stop below the stomach. He is in no rush to show you what has happened to his genitals. There's resignation in Akalade's voice, "I have ... spent too much time on this world." He begins to weep, despite there not being any change in his face or distant expression. "I will continue to worsen: I will grow ugly and then I will grow stupid and there is nothing I can do." >Akalade believes his prolonged exposure to the world's explicit and constant magical radiation in the form of food, drink, and physical interaction with it's indigineous flora and fauna has caused him to "adapt" to his environment.>He could, also; just be going through his Species' version of puberty, due to the necessary environmental and nutritional methods being met and he's freaking out because his species is "immortal" and most likely do not experience secondary sexual maturity under "normal" conditions.>It is most likely both. Either way: Akalade is not used to being an "animal": this is an extremely unusual, confusing, and uncomfortable experience for Akalade right now that disgusts and frightens him.
Do we have access to sugar? Sugarcane or sugar beets?
>>38074594This one is defiantly a moon question.
>>38074595taro and sweet potatoes for starches from what I remember >>38074594Poor guy... what can we do to help him? Find some way to reverse the change? Help him ease into his transition?
>>38074663Good idea... we really need to consult with the spirits too, maybe they could tell us about the negative 'monster' phemonena
>>38074594tell him he is beautiful.
>>38074663We could also maybe use our improved healing magic to try to help him understand what's happening.
Rolled 47 (1d100)>>38074594Invent Therapy?Invent a school of Psychology?
>>38074594We obviously need to comfort him. He is our friend, our companion, above all else. We love him for him, we know he won't become stupider, he has been a font of wisdom to us, a guide, good to us, and his changes will not take away his intellect.
>>38074594Akalade needs the talk. He's not becoming an animal, he's just growing up, e.t.c. Try to comfort him by getting explaining the process of puberty to him.
>>38074594>Akalade is becoming a girl now.Okay, we really need to get his mind off things. Can we get him to help us with the Dinosaur tribe? He is an anthropologist, right? Well, go study.Also, find him another boyfriend. One who will whisper sweet nothings into his ear. Hell, give him a harem of cyclops and gorgons.Just take his mind off of everything with work and good company. That's all that should matters.>>38074672I'd vote to ease the transition. There's no way we should mess with whatever adaptation system he has.At least he isn't turning into a monster from that Pandorum movie.
>>38074594Ask him if he wants a hug, and then if there's anything we can do to help
>>38074741I doubt sexual partners right now is a good idea. let that area, stabalize for now. Leave it be.distracting him is fine though.
>>38074741I doubt he'd want any more mates right now. He'd just have to watch them die eventually and he thinks he's hideous anyway.
>>38074728>>38074721>>38074713This. Tell him that whatever is happening is a natural process, that it isn't taking anything away from him, and that we love him no matter what he looks like, so he should love himself too.
>>38074758He should still be invited to parties and such. Just tell people to maybe lay off the orgies around him.I think he'll come to accept his changes if we accept them.
>>38074801It really wouldn't hurt to ask the moon either.
>>38074594So... this makes me wonder. Are Elves Proto-gods? Was Mycea Elf-y before she was a Mushroom Goddess? Or does the "deer-Man" transformation come to every good ol elf at some point, and we just never noticed it until now since most of them were in suits.
>>38074921I think the elves have some kind of auto-evolution technology/magic, a la the movie Pandorum.If this planet had species that breathed methane, then elves sent there would eventually breathe methane.
>>38073745>>38073987>Have we found chocolate yet?YES. Well, no.You have a Firm, Coral-like Red, Fungus called Chakka or something- It grows in large, hard, formations ontop of other fungi and can be dried and made into powder, etc.. It tastes like spicy chocolate and Gorgons use it to make hot chocolate.I mentioned in once during Fungal crop research, but you guys never made mention of it.There is no sugar though. >>38074248>And don't gorgons lay eggs anyway?Yes, they lay 1-2 eggs. Rarely 3. They're about the size of an American Football, but at least they're "egg" shaped, you know?You guys can go ahead and roll for new actions now. After this next roll; Mycea's next phase of planning will take effect.
Rolled 55 (1d100)>>38074980Create a civilization wide day of rememberance for Mycea and fully induct her into our pantheon.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>38074980Preform Diplomancy:Speak with the Manticore Tribe. Talk with them about the things we learned from Mycea. See about trading with them, maybe trade for breeding pairs of any domesticated animals they have, and ask about taking care of Mycea grove together until Her/His return as S/he will return. It may not be tomorrow or even in are lifetime, but she/he will return and when that day comes she will find us waiting.Speak with the Snow Cyclopes about trading for breeding pairs of any domesticated animals they have that we don't and if they don't have Boiling Lizard maybe undertake a adventure to capture them together. Improve relations with the Dinosaur Tribe. Maybe see about trading for breeding pairs of any domesticated or tame creatures they have, learn about magic from each other, and throwing the best party in the history of parties to thank them for helping Kush.
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>38074980Get Akalade to help us with the Dinosaur tribe, so as to keep his mind off his body.Also, diplomance the Dinosaur tribe and try to see what they're planning. Maybe sell them some of the goods we got from the changelings.
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>38074980Establish an aquatic trading route over the ocean between the main islands and the settlement in the plains. A better influx of resources will allow the development of the plains to go that much more smoothly.
Rolled 19 (1d20)>>38074980We should see about importing and adapting fungal cropsFirst things first though, I resubmit >>38070887>>38071056Diplomatic overtures among the gorgons, especially the manticores
>>38074980>They're about the size of an American FootballGorgon babies must be really fucking tiny then.
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>38074980Get a closer understanding of the Manticore Tribe, try make them our official allies.
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>38074980Go to the manticore tribes we can find, ask the, to job us, to put their martial skill to good use protecting and serving the cycle of life and death, rather than expediting it through treachery and deceit. Mycea would not have wanted them to descend into hatred and violence, but to protect the natural life spans of things, not bring about their early ends.
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>38074980Ask the moon about what's happening to Akalade.
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>38074980Talk to akelade, find out what we can do to help him feel more comfortable. I don't know if this requires a roll or not... but I like the idea of him experiencing some of the gorgon culture
>>38075073>>38075071I really hope the 20 links these two, so we can redeem them and make the manticore fully part of us, favored children of Mycea.
>>38075079Ikr? two twenties in the same thread>>38075078poor Akalade can't catch a break....
>>38075071That won't be seen as a hostile action by the Empire or Dinosaurs at all, will it?
>>38074594Tell him he is beautiful and give him/her the D.
Rolled 18 (1d100)IDEA: intergrate fungal crops commonly used by gorgons into our own crops
>>38075093>>38075019Seconding. Akalade needs to be our third party scholar.If anyone can write objectively about what's going on with the gorgons, it's him.>>38075078This might not be good.>Red World picks up the phone.
>>38075131We already have fungal crops...
>>38075140I'm seventh down. I don't think I made the cut anyway.
Rolled 93 (1d100)>>38074980Create Therapy
>>38075136>>38075140Elven puberty is terrifying.
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>38074980You know... we created hovering pots powered by Hymn right? I wonder what would happen if we took those pots and those hymns and turned them into Horns. Maybe create magic powered Jet Propulsion.
>>38075120Hopefully not, want the tribes to unite together and set aside their differences so they would grow strong and form a independent union for the Gorgon empire.
>>38075182I wouldn't go too far on the floating pots.Let's just use hymns to power wheels and make a train or something.
>>38075197I like this idea.
>>38075188That'll be hard to do when we just might've allied with the most bloodthirsty group of the lot.
>>38075182>>38075197Well i'm not quite suggesting floating pots. To my understanding what makes the pots exert enough force to float is done through pipes and hymns reverberating through them correct? what if we used this to make a sort of Funnel to sing into? attaching that funnel to a boat or cart, and then singing into a pipe to propel it foreward? Its just something that came to me.
>>38075120>>38075188I think making them our official allies would include stopping them from waging internecine war with our other allies OK so far: WE DIPLOMANCY THE FUCK OUT OF THE GORGON TRIBESHelp Akelade feel betterAnything else?
>>38075197Or invent airships. Kept afloat by the gasbag, propelled by magic.
Off-topic question: Would anyone be interested in a session of Myrmidon Civilization Quest? I've been trying to run it daily, but the fan-base seems to be waning.
>>38075258We could make our own wind for sails with this idea... I like it
>>38074980>After this next roll; Mycea's next phase of planning will take effect.Oh dear. I hope it's a good phase.
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>38075078supporting!!!
>>38075238I prefer to think we've redeemed them... What with that nat 20.Anyway, next turn, gong to outdoor an actio. To revitalize industry in Our empire, we'll build up the mines in the mountains, and the farms in Mycea's Domain. Then from there, we should build a giant magic school/temple to Mycea in her domain.
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>38075078Supporting
>>38075078I just realized: we asked the moon to help one of the parasite that live on it. like someone pleading for the life of one of your lice.
I have been away for some time and am happy to see that we have advanced a lot.Quick question: what is my big flying nigga Zyzz up to?
>>38075316Uh, I wouldn't do that. If it gets more support it goes up the list, if I understand how this works. It'll still fail even with consensus.
>>38075329We should also spread cheese in our empire by making it from dairy elephants, and maybe do something about that chocolate fungus.Food production would help our empire too.
>>38075296holy shit dude this is like the third thread I have seen you coming in and trying to get people to come to your civ just stop dude
>>38075297Thats another awesome idea. Honestly, the applications could be endless. This could be our "steam engine" the device that could be applied to any common appliance and expedite it. Regardless I'll doubt it be picked this round, but I might try again for "some sort of engine" based on the Floating pot.
>>38075415Yeah, the guy is a little bitch who tries to crib off his betters.
Rolled 84 (1d100)>>38074980Experiment for Fungus crops.
>>38074980So we know how to make paper now?
>>38075172Supporting>>38075055Supporting>>38075071Supporting, but thrown in trying to integrate them into us as members of our own society. Absorb them so that their militant side becomes tempered by our kindness.
>>38075258that quite brilliant, we should really do that. also a nice point is that technology can't be stole by other civ, because as far as we know we are the only ones so powerful with the hymns.
>>38075454>>38075415OH don't be too hard on him. This isn't really the place to talk about other quests, but I would like to talk about it in the Quest General
What do the Manticore like about us anyway?Our innocence?
>>38075589Want to support it? I'll try rolling for it again next round regardless since by this point votes and rolls are likely already tallied.
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>38074980Set up a means of studying demons and demonology in safe, controlled, setting, with means to quarantine the area and materials involved if necessary. Attempt to use other forms of occultism to accomplish this, and ensure the safety of wider Cyclopean society.
>>38075611We were both devoted to Mycea. Also we didn't try to kill them at evet opportunity, and finally, we're really good lays.
>>38075595no we should be harder on him for being as rude as he is
>>38075652They liked us before Mycea.
>>38075637Standing against this. Fuck this.>>38075595See>>38075659When he was first starting it was excusable. Now? After he's had time to learn the rules of manners here in such things? It's no longer excusable.
>>38075681See reasons two and three.
>>38075182>>38075636yep totally supporting it.
>>38075611Cyclops played a role in the initial dissolution of the Gorgon empire, and essentially "Drove away" the elven influence. The Manticore tribe wouldn't exist without us. Not only that, but they share a number of philosophical threads from us, especially concerning the nature of death, and this sort of "collective spirit". They just took the teachings and applied them in a darker way.
What happened to the Zyzz?I remember he was spooky also thr skeleton bridge between the islands. What happened to that?
>>38075637standing against this too, that the opposite of mycea will.
>>38075859It's probably in the upper atmosphere or something.
>>38075870We don't move in the demonology until we've consulted the sun and stars about it.
>>38075859Terrorizing some other Civ most likely.
>>38075859the Zizz apparently has something to do with whatever keeps the savannas so windy and dry. in fact the nature of its wind and presence seems to have a place in Changling tradition.You know... now that we Haven't done anything to offend the Zizz we should try and commune with it.
>>38075637No goddamn way. Against.
>>38075005>Create a civilization wide day of rememberance for Mycea and fully induct her into our pantheon.((This is already a thing of sorts/isn't different enough to something already present- since this is a communication error from MY end; would you like to use this roll for something else? ))>>38075014>Diplomacy: Speak and Discuss livestock exchanges and better relations with: Dinosaur and Snow.>Roll 17/20>Success. +Racial bonus, +Cultural bonus>The Snow CyclopesThe Southern continent is unfortunately defined by Ice, snow, and fern forests and is has spent the majority of it's history cut off from the rest of the world preventing the variety in animals we've come to appreciate.. it however makes up for this in a rich diversity of birds. Flightless birds such as the dodo and the predatorial Terrorbird, Mammal-like Birds such as kakongas, platypus, and hippogriffs as well as a host of impressive reptiles that does include boiling lizards. They also house at least three species of WYVERNS. >The Dinosaur TribeThe Dinosaur tribe doesn't mince words: they'd be happy to exchange livestock with you and willingly give you a breeding stock of sauropods as a gift for allowing them to pacify Kush those few years back. They're not currently interested in parties though at the moment; their Chieftain has them on a disciplined schedule and she is motivated to increase productivity and an economy that will rival the empires. >+New Livestock: Sauropod. !!!New Mount!!!>The Sauropod is one of the largest land animals you've ever known and is also thankfully; domesticated to some degree. The Sauropod is raised for it's meat, hide, bones, eggs and as a beast of burden/war. The Sauropod is significant in that A CYCLOPES CAN RIDE IT. TWO Cyclopes can in fact ride ontop of a Sauropod without burdening or discomforting the animal. The Sauropod is also very danger; despite it's placid look it is quite capable of defending itself.
>>38075846Unfortunately, their fucking psychpaths who now think they have a devine mandate to fight and kill.
>>38075962Can we provide the Dinosaur tribe with cheese?It's a long lasting food that would be good for trading.
>>38075995If Sauropods produce milk, Dino-Cheese
>>38075962Use it on >>38075258
>>38075962>>38075005Could I use it to investigate the practical and magical applications of gemstones?
>>38076016Fuck you. That's my roll.
>>38076010I don't think so. Dinosaurs are reptilian right? By definition they won't produce milk, only mamals do
>>38075962>TWO Cyclopes can in fact ride ontop of a Sauropod without burdening or discomforting the animal. The Sauropod is also very danger; despite it's placid look it is quite capable of defending itself.Sauropod warmount with a saddle/platform for a cyclops war-musician to play the numerous War-Bells, a walking weapons platform that shakes and splits the earth.Perhaps the stomping of the sauropod would be enough to activate the bells>>38076061And I don't think Sauropods were reptilian, I could be wrong
>>38076083I love this idea. Also they make perfect beasts of burden for us.
>>38075962We fred flintstone now
>>38076108Definitely next turn, expanding mountain mines, use sauropods to make faster, better, land based trade network.
>>38075962>>+New Livestock: Sauropod. !!!New Mount!!!FINALLY.
>>38076130maybe we can have sauropods pull floating pots
Okay, next turn, assuming nothing goes horribly wrong.We upgrade our infrastructure with Sauropod's carrying float-jars.We expand our mines and quarries in the mountains.After that, I vote we build observatories in the mountains to better see and chart the stars.Also we should definitely overhaul our infrastructure. Rebuild the roads, make them good, solid stone and brick, connecting every part of our empire.Finally... who wants to upgrade the serpent bridge to extend into Mycea?
>>38075060>>38075071>Diplomatic exchange between the Manticore Tribe.>Roll 20/20>Complete Success, met with overwhelming census.The Manticore tribe hasn't really "gone" anywhere so much as they've just begun to formally avoid contact with the other Gorgon cultures: they do infact still frequent Mycea's grove and your people are almost positive that their "capital" is somewhere within the province. They don't make any trouble for your people; quite the contrary, they still immensely enjoy the company of your people over other Gorgons. Manticore tribeswomen are common attendants to Mycea's Festivals, they run a very lucrative sex industry within the province, and a small portion of them even settle down to become fungal farmers or bath maidens.Outside of your calming influence though; they continue to be sadistic, cunning, and creative killers. From what you understand, the Manticore tribe has not actually changed.The Manticore tribe isn't "suicidal" or crazy- they respect the province of Mycea's grove as sacred ground that allows them the breathing room to breed, lay eggs, and rear young. This was a practice they once held and represented using Totems to the Hydra mother, but the Hydra mother has proven dishonorable in their eyes and Mycea has provided 'them' with an entire land; housed and defined by a people that have come to represent the other side of the cycle. To put it into simpler terms: Cyclopes have cultural significance within Manticore Culture that dissuades them from acting out on their violence tendencies. They don't see you as "people" so much as..a being with immense spiritual significance.
>>38076524so any luck in dissuading them from pursuing raiding against raiding other gorgons?
>>38076616Baby steps, I guess. At this rate the manticore might get absorbed by us.
>>38076524Manticores see themselves as the people of death and decayBut see the Cyclops as agents of life and growth?
>>38076524Oh God, we're Gods to them. Which isn't that bad. They respect and revere us to an insane degree, which we could use to our advantage. They're okay with not being violent around us. Which... if we were to formally induct them into our civilization may be ideal... especially if we want them to be our military "caste".
>>38076627Well considering our reputation of generally fixing shit and living life to the fullest, yeah its a quite accurate description of us.
>>38076649Them as a military, or at least guard, caste would be good. Perhaps the dinosaur tribe could serve the same function.I don't want to go full conquistador, but you gotta admit that bringing a military force along with overseas expeditions is a good idea. Even if we don't want to conquer and enslave, we gotta protect our boats and forts from whatever lurks in the depths of the oceans or foreign lands.
>>38076649We don't need a military or a caste system. We never have. We're not even under threat.
>>38076680I guess subsuming and using a tribe of people because they're useful is better than destroying or exploiting them because they're different.
>>38076524we definitely need to take steps to bring them into us. We love them dearly, they are in many ways our closest friends amongst the Gorgons beyond those of our own blood. But this is not how it should be, they will create such hatred against themselves that they who are so close to us might end up being exterminated.I say we ask them to join us, fully. To bring with them their knowledge in all things as they join us. To be made stronger, together. A true union.Also. I say we call on the favor from the Hydra-Mother. We get her to allow for true unions between Cyclops and Gorgon, and even other races. She is a fertility and maternity goddess. Well she should be able to grant this.Make it so that gorgons who interbreed with other sapients and lay eggs, that those eggs can hatch into EITHER race. It doesn't matter if those born are JUST female I should say, because any female cyclops for example won't bear children without another half, but it should begin to bring up cyclops numbers to parity with gorgon ones.
>>38076699again, it was a word i used for stand in. I really don't want a caste system either, but I do really want some form of military or warrior group proper.
>>38076699>>38076700>>38076722I think a better way to put it is that the Manticore and Dinosaur tribes would be like the Scots.A distinct entity within another political entity, known for their unique qualities and distinguished in the military.
>>38076718>I say we call on the favor from the Hydra-Mother. We get her to allow for true unions between Cyclops and Gorgon, and even other races. She is a fertility and maternity goddess. Well she should be able to grant this.I would love "true union" too, and that definitely should be what we should use the Hydra Mother's reward on, that is unless war were declared between the gorgons or open hostilities occur. We should save the favor to prevent war. And the gorgon tribes are on edge as is. We defnitely shouldn't use it before the damn thing starts. That said I'd really like either some Half-Breed babies or gorgons to be able to give birth to cyclopses.
>>38076718It'd cause us a lot fewer problems to just keep them as allies. We don't need them spreaeding their bloodthirsty cultral throughout our civ.
>>38076748Now that's a good way of putting it. Good on you mate.
>>38076722I have to agree here. We have no idea when the merpeople are going to get super pissed off and attack, and we will NEED warriors against them if it comes to that.I say we invite the Manticores to become one with us, a single people. They are near and dear to our hearts no matter what they have done to others.But here's big deal. We need to solve the whole 'gorgons only give birth to gorgons' thing. Otherwise we WILL stop being cyclops someday.We really really REALLY, more than anything else. Need to find a way for cyclops children to be born from gorgon-cyclops unions.>>38076798See, here's the thing. I don't think it would spread true blood thirst through us. Our own culture incredibly out numbers theirs. They would, however, give us that drop of bloodlust we are -going to need- someday.
>>38076748>>38076699>>38076680I've always wanted some form of military, not for attacking of course, us being docile, but for protection in case things go south or we have to face something huge, violent, and can't be reasoned with.
>>38076834Not to mention sea monsters and other terrible beasts.
>>38076834Dragons, boiling lizards, Zizz, manticores, big ol' beasties of the worst kind.
>>38076834Our magic can be turned into a horrifying weapon that the gorgons can't even protect themselves from at any given notice. We don't even need a large military.
>>38076798I dunno. I'd think we'd spread our "peacefullness" to them more than they'd spread their "warlikeness" to us.
>>38076930That might be true now, but who knows what the Red World brings or what other races inhabit this continent.We shouldn't have an offensive military, but a defensive one.
Do you suppose we'll have time to convince the Hydra Mother to stop being a tsundere bitch tonight?
>>38076952The manticores wouldn't be a defensive military. They're incredibly agressive. Even towards two of our current trading partners.
>>38077020We could turn them into a monster hunting and anti-demon unit.
>>38076952>>38076930Which is why i dread the day we meet a group of cyclopses that DON'T agree with us. A foreign culture tempered by hardship and duress. That sees first to raise their fist than raise their voices when faced with conflict.An enemy Cyclops Civ, would be terrifying on a philosophical level, and psychological level.
Oh damn, just noticed the thread is on the 9th page. We're almost 400 posts in lol
>>38077069OP does take a bit to update... think we'll get another thread?
>>38077089No. We might get one more roll.
>>38076884>>38076884>>38076903Sea monsters, and demons, and Zizz! Oh my!Sea monsters, and demons, and Zizz! Oh my!
>>38077032I doubt that's all they'd be interested in doing. They interpreted Mycea's death as some kind of devine mandate to be even more murderous.
>Ask The Moon about Akalade's issues.>Roll 1/20>Sun Counter Roll: 7/20>Hydra Mother Counter Roll: 8/20>Moon supportive roll: 20>The Moon wins.>The Moon tells you what it wants to tell you.With Akalade's best interests in mind; a small portion of the Sage's councils calls forth a session to divine the nature of his transformation so they can better provide emotional and physical support in whatever his fate spells for him. Akalade's "adopted" family is brought over- one of them carrying grumpy, mopey, Akalade in their arms so he may be within the audience as the Hymns are chanted and the alcohol is drank so the communion may commence proper.Unfortunately the ritual becomes postponed as no one can get anything done: Akalade's sadness is contagious and the oldest of your kind's maternal/paternal instincts get the better of them (Children are almost always raised communally) and once enough alcohol is drank; most sages can't help but coddle him: tell him stories, give him pieces of dried fruit and other snacks and quickly forget what they were doing. Akalade feels patronized, but on the other hand he appreciates the attention. The Moon however is "still on the other line" and she runs interference: The Megaliths resound, the council quickly chimes back in with their hymns, mediums, and instruments, and Akalade is put back down so the reflected light of the moon may shine upon the minds of it's worshippers and illuminated the needs and nature of Akalade's changes. It's a reminiscent and bemused tone; one deeply lined with Nostalgia. "You kept my child.. That was unexpected, but I'm pleased by how he Grows: his form is natural; this frightens him though as his kind has long since sanitized themselves and their environment. You would do me a kindness to encourage his natural health; to see the return of his true form would please me to no end, to remind me of a time when even I was once such savage and beautiful like your world..."
>>38077102>>38077089>>38077069Oh shit, you guys are right.I've got to quickly archive the thread and write up what happens with Mycea's plan stage 2.Sorry, we're going into "finale" and "good bye" mode.
>>38077166we'd have to find new ways for them to apply themselves thats for sure.I mean outside of a big war with another race (like the merfolk), what is another good use for a dedicated population of warriors? Entertainment? Maybe less murderous (but maybe not less bloody) sporting events or gladiatorial arenas? I think I remembered somewhere that Roman Coliseum gladiators rarely died, and were essentially celebrities/big personalities with big fanbases like professional wrestlers.
>>38077256Oh, damn.Well, I hope we remember to convince Hydra to stop being a dick next time.Tell me, are we going to get more Red World soon? Is it coming to us? Can someone other than us summon it?
>>38077299I think we already saw the Manticore's version of sports.I still stand that Manticores can serve as vanguards for our colonists.
>>38077299Fuck that. I don't want to bring bloodsports into the Cyclopean civ.
>>38077299It sickened our people to see what they considered fun. I don't see why we'd want to take part in any of that.
>>38077324How about something like sumo? That work for you?
>>38077360Why not something magical? We're badasses at magic but we rarely ever do anything with it.
>>38077200So basically the cyclopes got distracted from the ritual to act like embarrassing relatives?>Akelade you're so skinny, you need to eat? How will you grow up to be strong and healthy if you don't eat?>Here, wear this sweater, you look like you're going to catch cold>Akelade, let me introduce you to my cousin's niece, she's such a nice girl and I think you would get along great together->Guys stop it I'm fifteen hundred years older then all of you and you're embarrassing me in front of the moon!
>>38077299Can we please invent gorgon pro wrestling!?!
>>38077416That's very dinosaur tribe.
>>38077324I'm open to an alternative. I was trying to make it sound as un-murdersome as I could. To be fair if we bring them in our civ we might need to find something they can do instead of kill other people and kill eachother. Or at worst, be prepared to deal with the fact that they like to kill eachother. I'd like to think we can convince them to ablate their violent tendencies to a Professional Wrestling or Sparring or Boxing or some sort of Gorgon olympics. Hell maybe include Cyclopses in the Olympics? >>38077354The Murder Game they held was to determine the chieftain after one of our own accidentally murder-sexed her. That was by no means their equivalent of Monday Night Football in terms of recreational hurt-sport. It is the exception not the norm.
>>38077468Maybe we can convince the manticore tribe to take their militaristic pursuits and hone them into a meditative art. Tai-chi or kyudo being examples.
>>38077468Olympics sound good. Weightlifting, track and field, wrestling, and it's all bloodless.
>>38077388something like that bending sport in Legend of Korra or the earth bending fights in Avatar the last Airbender? I'd be okay with that. How about both and Sumo as a physical sports for those not good at magic?>>38077468Sumo.
So priorities next time:1) We get the Hydra-Mother to make it so that Gorgon eggs will hatch into the race of either parent, not just more gorgons with superficial features of the non-gorgon parent.2) We fully incorporate the Manticore into our own selves, redeem them as it were. We know they can be gentle and kind, not murderous and rapine, and we can bring that out in them.3) We use sauropods with hover-pots to make better, more bulky, long term transport across our land based trade networks.4) We expand our mines in the mountains.5) We build observatories in the mountains.6) We expand our farming of Mycea's Domain to turn it into a turbo-bread-basket.7) We establish a sea trade route from our islands to the jungle colonies south of the mountains.8) We establish some sort of accord between ourselves, the dino tribe, and the empire, possibly the manticore too if they don't get absorbed by us.9) We find a way to get the fucking Mycea seed to the moon. Because if we can't do that then we might as well fucking revive her with it.I miss anything?
>>38077468I'm totally at a loss as to why people want to make them part of our civ. We're polar opposites when it comes to our beliefs in violence. We're much more culturally compatible with the Dinosaur tribe.
>>38077416I like the way you think. But maybe with an "Olympics" or big mixed sporting event we can include and create a whole slew of games. >Magic Skeet Shooting.>Cyclopean Soccer World Cup.>Gorgon Wrestling>Paralysis Archery>Staring Contests>Cyclops Sumo>Caber Toss>That Other Game that involves tossing a heavy metal ball. I could go on.
>>38077583Because we want everyone to be our friends.
>>38077592Maybe we could have a sport where cyclops, dinosaur, and manticore are all equally important?
>>38077583Its the challenge really, and they've been really nice to us.But you are absolutely right. They are our polar opposite. We only consider it because they treat us nicely. Think of it this way, we may not like them, but they like us.
>>38077611Then make them allies. It'd still get us their support with a much more reduced risk of tainting our culture with theirs.
((Sorry, no more rolls. It's time for Mycea's 2nd phase and to call it a night))>+Ecological & Political Development: Mycea's plan becomes more explicit. Let the writhing beast rot and be consumed. The Ocean has been grown more and more quiet as of recent years; not literally mind you, no, good heavens- the sound of sea birds has been constant and it seems everyday the sights and sounds of life become increasingly more explicit with each coming year. The "darkness" though, the "blackness" and the storms seem to be fading at once were common and frequent seem to becoming more "natural" and regulated on a 'comfortable' seasonal basis. Your coastal communities are naturally very pleased; they've never experienced such a bounty of the sea that it would be constantly climbing out of the ocean to meet them on land and their dinner tables.... but everyone is mistaken.There is no abundance. The Sea is fleeing.There is something deep and dark writhing and moving around in the lowest depths of the ocean and it is moving and every venue, every single piece of kelp to lobster is afraid on every base line level their minds are capable of understanding. And so they run.But the something deep and dark is catching up and the something is coming to the shore; not all at once, but in pieces and fragments. The unlucky get to see them every once and a while: Great writhing, flexing, strands of twisting flesh rising from the ocean depths- to painfully flex and pulse before sprouting a flourish of kelp, shellfish, and corals that ultimately cause it to buckle from it's weight and tear apart.>Let his flesh rot, let his bones be splintered. I will tear and rend his form and consume it.
Could we make Arrows that create a Hymn as it travels through the air?
I hope the spider tribe retains some of its independent culture. Their love of fancy moths, beetle fights, prodigious fertility and colorful dyes. I will miss them if they're completely absorbed by the empire
>>38077615Maybe something involving teams? >Cyclops playing a magical role, like keeping some hymn going, or casting spells.>A Dinosaur Gorgon playing some physical roll requiring tons of strength.>A Manticore Gorgon playing some speed/spritely role. I think we'd have the recipe for some Quiddich tier made up sport if we can find a way to invlove Magic Strength and Speed. Plus the team play aspect could play into our Collective ideals.
>>38077674Like those nerf footballs that had the whistles on the side?
>>38077673So it's just tearing itself apart? Neat. That's what she said would happen.
>>38077673The progenitor is dying and the explosions of life are from his globsters, fuck
>>38077741No more like actual whistling arrows.
>>38077773Nah, those footballs with whistles could be devastating. Or maybe javelin-flutes
>>38077810>We are faced with an enemy too ruthless and too powerful to diplomacize>We finally make preparations to go to war>The first fruits of our labor for wartime technology:>Hymn-charged Nerf footballs that fly over a kilometer and hit with the force of a freight train
>>38077726>>38077615Football.Dinosaur Gorgon/cyclops linemenManticore Gorgon Receivers and Quarterbacks.Hell we could get creative and have Sages and Cyclops magic play a role, dunno what. but a role.
>>38077673Maybe if we ask the stars, Mycea can tell us whether we should be concerned? It seems like things are just going as planned but it might be good to check for sure. Or maybe it's the moon we should be asking? She was it's aspect on this planet. Maybe that's where her soul is.
>>38077673T-there is more right? a part two. I ... i-I'm scared op.
Did our people get any increase in their lifespans because of the improved healing magic we now have?
>>38077673Anybody else wanna say we don't need a good military now? Or at least the potential for one? Nobody? I didn't think so.So absorption of manticore is go then?
>>38077673You know guys. Mycea mentioned this before, but she said there were races that were closer to the deep eye's flesh. Those races included the Cyclopses, the Merfolk, and the Changelings. What if these balls of flesh... are the origination point of a new race?
>>38077871I think the manticore tribe needs something rouge-y to keep their interest.Something like a mix between paintball, capture the flag, and American football. Perhaps very Quidditch-ish.
>>38077673The people of the Sea themselves are no exception; it takes them longer, they are hesitant, and stubborn- their more complex minds perhaps having room for disillusioned thoughts of mercy or being spared, but they eventually succumb and begin to flee as well. They come up in great droves: causing chaos and confusion from their displacement as hundreds turn into thousands of merpeople swimming in schools that beach themselves upon your shores to crawl and slither over it's sandy and rocky beaches in an attempt to flee. They bring with them children, warriors, sages, craftsmen, hunters, no one of any status or background is exempt. They do not talk, there is no yelling, there is only the sound of hundreds and thousands of webbed feet and tails slapping as they run. The ocean begins to foreshadow it's arrival; the familiarity of a once pro-longed event now begins again as the depths call back the ocean, the tide slowly starting to recede just a little more everyday as if to try and drag back and consume the life that has fled in futility from it. You can see it.Miles away- your Fisherman at least and some Southerners can see it. It's form adds a noticeably and foreboding "bump" that breaks up the curvature of the earth and adds definition on the horizon of the ocean: Eyes. It sees you. >All will be undone. There will not be reality, we will live in a world of dreams. Let us sleep the sleep of the endless; and our lives will no longer be burdened by chaos and suffering.>Through disorder, through oneness; I will consume all and as you once dwelled within me- so too will you once again.>Dream.The dreams, the horrible, unrelenting, nightmarish dreams are drawing out the suffering- and they become more livid, graphic, and realistic as the being's presence comes closer.
>>38078029I don't. These things walk up on land then die. Not a problem really.
>>38078039Okay, how bout this:It's like football, where you get the ball across the field and score a touchdown, but you have to mark your reciever with a paint arrow in order for him/her to be elligable.Furthermore, the defending team can steal a flag to receive points.It'll be a more defensive game than American Football, with longer plays, but the Manticore tribe should appreciate the marksmenship aspect as well as the opportunity for them to be sneaky devils.
>>38078077Zizz versus Octopus go
>>38078077>It sees you.
>>38078077>>38078087Ha. Spoke to soon. Although, I don't know what we can really do to that thing.
>>38078077Now would be a great time to call the Red World for help.Or maybe the manticore tribe could conjure a poison that would slow the deep one down.
>>38078146Why the hell would we call the red world? Why would you think anything that lives there wants to help anything?
>>38078109Summon the Zizz!Right now I'm listening to Knights of Fire ((Xenogears)) and I'm picturing a Dinosaur tribe Gorgon punching the Deep One while a Cyclops is chanting a spell and Zizz coming out of now where, wrecking everything in it's path.
>>38078171I'm sure they're perfectly friendly.
>>38078039Team based freeze tag?Dinosaur gorgons being offensive types... and Manticore gorgons equipped with "Flash" gear in order to slow the big burly types down.Maybe cyclopses can participate as some third "Everyone gets frozen" class because of their hymns being able to KO gorgons. Maybe its all about preventing a cyclops from reaching the goal and dinosaurs act as defenders. Imagine two teams of this kind of thing.
>>38078181If the Zizz keeps big ocean things at bay, well, he might be our chance at victory.Get Cyclops to assist with magic blasts.
>>38078204Look, the point isn't to make a complete game out of it with every rule realized, but to have a game where every member of the faction we're building - the cyclops, the dinosaur gorgons, and the manticore gorgons - all play an equal but distinct role.
>>38078183No thats like putting out a fire with gasoline.Like sicking a shark on a bear. Like trying to pull your arm out of a paper shredder by putting the other in a laundry mangle.
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>38078221I say we call on the might of the sun. He is our patron, our defender. I just hope our neglect for him hasn't soured his opinion of us.
>>38078230Oh sorry. Linked the wrong post.Meant to link >>38078183
>>38078077There are no clouds, there are no waves, there are no storms, there is nothing but the calmness and picturesque scenerinity of the ocean. This is misinformed by those who cannot see it from a distance: it is the tide, it is the depths; the waves rise and reveal the form of writhing blackness surrounding a single eye. Such an immense eye that stares long and jealously at the surface world and dry land; the land that mocks it's kind with it's abundance in rich, diverse, life fed and grown fat from the flesh and blood of his kind. He IS the world, this reality is nothing but an approximation- a broken and disjointed realm that sullies his perfection. His voice; it calls. It echoes and reverberates with a longing and deeply familiar tone that resonates within the mind of every creature, every plant, every animal, every living being. Especially your own people.>Come Home.>You're not like them; you are of my own flesh and blood. You of one Eye; you were meant for greater things.>Aren't you alone? >Come Home.>Aren't you alone?>Come into the depths, come back; into the depths. >Come Home.
>>38078303>Come home, one eyed man
>>38078303no thank you, we're not alone, we have plenty of friends up here
>>38078303Are the cyclops-fathered gorgons affected by this as well?
>>38078303Bullshit. We are not alone. We may be from it, but we are not OF it. We are ourselves, creatures of love, and life, and warmth. And we will not bow too the dying remains of a previous age.
>>38078303Nope, we, the gorgons and anyone else included, will bare fangs against the Deep One.
>>38078303We're good up here. Hell, we climbed our way out of the ocean. Don't really feel like going back.
>>38078303Can someone please like throw something at his eye?Like a lot of pollen so his eye gets itchy?
>>38078303This is upsetting me. This is not good.I-I don't wanna go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDggqnnNuDo
>>38078411Oh... SHIT.The Zizz Bow. that single crazy, giant boat mounted contraption we made back when we were still tribal and weird. We used it once to hunt the zizz.We can use it again. Slay the eye.
>>38078442Hopefully that gets the message of leave us alone nerd across.
>>38078442I think it'd be dust by now. That happened a very long time ago. Through we could maybe make another.
>>38077673so were there rolls that went unanswered? Will they show up next thread (next saturday I assume)? Or will this development effect things?
>>38078470With war whistles
>>38078470yeah i have no doubts it be dust by now. But there are weirder things that have survived the ages. Hell we might even still have the arrowhead.Man I gotta re-read that thread. See what we gotta do.
>>38078303You offer us dreams. You beckon us with simple words and petty promises, to dwell within your shadow in the depths of a lost and forgotten ocean.To this, we say one word:No.We who were once of your flesh have surpassed you. We have heard the songs of this realm and followed our own path to build this civilization. We have welcomed the Gorgons into our fold, we have quelled the wrath of the Zizz, and we have known the love of Mycea, a greater and more noble being than you will ever hope to be. And we stand here against your tides even as you rot away, and when you are gone and your lifeless husk erodes away into nothingness, only we will remain.You tell us to come home? We are home.
He isn't dead. WHY ISN'T HE DEAD?
It's gonna be a sad day when this quest actually ends. It's so damn good.
>>38078442>build an even bigger bow>get Akalade to help us with aerodynamics (spacefaring culture and all that)>dinosaur tribe to pull back string and manticore tribe to aim>shaft is carved such that it sings a hymn of speed as it sails through the air>metal is forged from the greatest steels
>>38078573You're right. He's not Dead.He's Dying.
>>38078574Just imagine what OP will make next. I am excited to see what he is planning next even though I don't want this to end. ALL THE WAY TO CYCLOPS IN SPAAAAAAAACE>>38078592Don't forget the War-Whistles and giant War-Bell tassel
>>38078326>>38078331>>38078363>>38078364>>38078384>>38078397>>38078418((I was thinking more of this tbh: youtube.com/watch?v=yMPRMKUQLM0 ))There is love and there's is a fondness for the land and it's people within the hearts and minds of your people and although it might sound banal; life's greatest strength is that of love. Love, the source of life, the source of diversity, conflict, chaos, and the breadth of vivid and fertile life that is expressed so commonly and casually.The Great Progenitor's mind cannot pierce your own: it has been become accustomed to the warmth of others and to the beauty of friendship and companionship and cannot be tempted by the unity his endless dream brings. His beckoning ends.The Laughter begins.The Deep, cackling, long, drawn out and horrid laughter that can be heard across the minds of thousands of people.>I will come.BUT HE'LL COME NEXT SESSION. WOOPWOOP.Sorry guys, we're stretching it thin: you'll have to wait until next time for our climatic conclusion to the great progenitor. We're going to have to leave it on a cliff hanger / the ending is too exciting to put into one session.
>>38078632WE GET THE ZIZZWE GET THE MEGA BOWWE KICK IT'S ASS
>>38078632Will there be more Red World next time?
>>38078632>We're going to have to leave it on a cliff hanger / the ending is too exciting to put into one session.So next week? Or Sooner?
OH, right: The thread is archived, so please go vote: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.htmlI'll be hanging around to answer any non-spoilery questions until the thread eventually dies. I hope everyone had a great time and my quality of story telling was up to the standard you have come to expect from you; I'm very sorry to leave you on a cliff hanger, but the thread is in auto-sage.
>>38078733Could you answer this please?>>38077979
>>38078733Is Akalade really turning into a girl?
>>38078792Sounds more hermaphroditic
>>38078733Awesome as always OP. Something to look forward to every Saturday.My question: how long are you planning on having this quest run for? Because it's a lot of fun and I'd really like it to run for a while longer.Also, some music to pump us up for what we're gonna do during our next installment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY>TODAY WE ARE CANCELLING THE APOCALYPSE
>>38078826I hope not.
>>38078632I say we bring on the manticore tribe first thing next session so we can hold off whatever grin lines it throws at us while we use combat bells and fuck his shit up. We will not let a thing that should have died off eons ago take everything away from us. By hymn, spell bell, arrow, trident, and solar prayer, we will defy it.
>>38078672Why zizz? Why not the sun?
>>38078871Zizz specifically fights huge ocean creatures to keep them at bay. It would just make sense.
>>38078879Why not both?
>>38078850I can't imagine that we ourselves could do a damn thing to it. I'm expecting some kind of intervention.Probably from the Zizz. He apparently drove him away from the changlings once before.
I think we should try to solve this ourselves, with our allies, before we call on a deus ex machina.We should certainly pray for their strength, but not for their intervention unless things get dire.
>>38078902He wants us back in the ocean. He's out there in the ocean. He controls the ocean. How would we even get out there to mess with him?
So I get the vague feeling Myceas plan was to bring the Great progenitor to Life enough so we could kill it ourselves. No way we could touch it while it was at the bottom of the sea. but now that he's been forced above due to poison I guess it is up to us to finish him off while he is weak.You know this whole situation reminds me of another time a pretty face convinced some people into unwittingly unleashing an ancient horror so they could kill it.
>>38077979>Did our people get any increase in their lifespans because of the improved healing magic we now have?It increase lifespan as well as the recovery rate of a number of diseases and infections. It's a very good "overall" medical upgrade since the addition of both necromancy and healing magics are crucial for precision medical work. >>38078683>Will there be more Red World next time?That all depends on what you guys decide to do. The Red World is out there and does have the potential to be extremely relevant. There's also nothing stopping OTHER races- anywhere else on our world- from hearing or answering it's call. >>38078792>Is Akalade really turning into a girl?No, Akalade is just pretty because he's an Elf. He is turning into a young man- if you're thinking he's growing breasts; that's my bad, I didn't have any dignified way of saying "pecs".Akalade doesn't want you to show his genitals because he thinks their growth and engorgement is disgusting. He's immortal, his perception of time is VERY different, so he can see his body seemingly grow in "real time". It's very disturbing and uncomfortable on his end. Akalade at this point has I think lived for about 300 years on our planet. In the span of maybe, like, 4-5? He is undergoing drastic changes right before his eyes.Everyday he wakes up and he can barely recognize himself and is repulsed by the changes. He's just weirded out and scared.
>>38078933Well, there's that giant bow plan, and then there are war bells, and then there's the possibility of fighting him directly.We should at least TRY to solve the problem on our own.
>>38078958I don't think we could build anything with that kind of range.
>>38079006We could hit the Zizz from the water.
>>38079006Zizz carries it
>>38079053Why not just let him fight it then?
>>38078958War Bells.Build a range of war bells all along the coast for ten to twenty miles, doubled or tripled in size.Split up all of our best spellcasters and have them man the bells.Then fire them all at once, over and over until there's nothing left on the horizon.
>>38079041Yeah. But I don't think we want to be sending any of our people near the water while he's out there.
>>38078949Do we still not have a concept of direction?
>>38078949Puberty is a traumatic time of life for all, clearly.Also, what in the samhain did Mycea do?! Was waking up Cthulhu part of her plan?
>>38079113If it's a magic mega bow it's magic.Don't have to be as logical.
>>38079053No.Zizz carries us.
>>38079138It seems like he's dying and making a last grab at us.
>>38079138Possibly. Honestly she said the Progenitor was dead before we tried to poison it, but its spirit lived on or it was trying to pull what Hydra Mother did. Maybe her plan was to wake it from the depths, while it was still vulnerable, so that we could have the chance to kill it ourselves. I mean there was no way we could reach it otherwise right? She's goaded him into a confrontation. The rest is up to us.
>>38079173She would have probably told us at some stage if we were going to have to fight him all by ourselves. I'm still expecting someone else to show up and give us some help.
>>38079173We need something on similar footing to face this bastard down.I think it's time for us to call on the Zizz once more.
>>38079228Yep. Or maybe the Hydra Mother has something up her sleeve.
>>38078949How well can we communicate with the changelings? What would you say are Diplomacy level is with them?
>>38079252Time to earn that reward.
>>38079087You I like.
>>38079269>How well can we communicate with the changelings? What would you say are Diplomacy level is with them?Both sides still cannot communicate with one another vocally, but you've got a decent "sharades" diplomacy going on and no one is worried about killing one another at the moment.The Changeling language isn't entirely vocal; it also incorporates a lot of hand gestures and discreet physical transformations that make it impossible for non-changelings to pick up or replicate...so.. there are some hurdles to get over.
still argue we petition the manticore to join us... Though perhaps that would seem less than altruistic right now?
>>38079330Maybe we should create a written exchange then?
>>38079341I'd still rather go for the dinosaurs, if anyone.
>>38079330What's the snow Cyclops civilization like? Are they completely different?
>>38079330Do we see much of the ant people?
>>38079357>>38079341Do the Manticores raid only the Empire or are Spider and Dinosaur tribes under threat by them as well?
>>38079374I think mostly the empire, but they're Kos for the Dino's too and the spiders are a non issue. That's why I say we absorb them and make them one with ourselves so that they can be redeemed. No more bloodshed.
>>38079463They won't just give up their entire way of life at the drop of a hat. At the very least we should try to get them to be more peaceful before any mention of joining our civ is made.
>>38079504I think just inviting them more and more into our homes and lives, give them free reign of our territory. As long as they commit no violence against anyone, even their enemies, while amongst us.
>>38079504Thing is I feel there is no excuse for them to be Peaceful outside of our civ.To put it another way, you don't tell a stranger not to be a slob at home, when he doesn't live in your home. Expecting him to respect your opinion when you have no authority over him is dumb.If he lives with you, i guess he'd have to change his tune or get out.Thats sort of how I feel with the Manticore tribe.We can make them more peaceful if they live amongst us... if they have to live up to our standard.That said I'd think we'd negate their warrior culture if we made them completely pacified. They need some outlet for their violent tendancies.
>>38079558So solve by doing >>38079539
>>38079330Are we mining silver or did we only unlock the ability to do so?
>>38079539>>38079558I still don't get why you two are so insistent on it being the manticores that we bring in. The Dinosaur tribe is larger, better organized, less violent, has a better economy, and aren't at war with the Empire. Not to mention they don't have an obsession with death, dying, and murder, unlike the manticores.
>>38079617Because Mycea is gone because of us. Because she was the thing helping them get better. Because we think we can redeem them. Because the alternative is for them to be cast out permanently or exterminated. Because they have been good to us and we have a duty to make things better.
>>38079617They just seem like the easier choice.Stats and OP said that the dinosaur tribe is staunchly independent and nomadic. We have an advantage with the manticores that makes them straight up easier to assimilate, in that we cyclopses have a big place in their mythology and social heirarchy. They like us, pure and simple. They make strides to be less dickish in our presence. We have a positive effect on them. and really, with the dissolution of the spider tribe, the manticores might be the smallest tribe now. They need the support.