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Briefly touring the rooms of your estate, you're pleased to find that the workers seem to have finished work on the ballroom and lounge. Your guest will primarily be corralled in those two rooms and the dining hall. You're pleased with the sitting area in particular. The lighting is dim and there are plenty of shadowed corners for guest to find some privacy either for conversation or drunken mistakes.

You reach out via the brooches to your companions while making your way out of the ballroom, through the dining hall, and up the stairs to the second story balcony. {Where is everyone? I get home and I find the estate abandoned.}

The response comes from Skull Kid. {Oh, shit. Sorry Mik, forgot to give you the heads up. I've gathered everyone in the caves below the estate to observe my first test of a new device I've created. I took one of those broken gems and rigged it up to a device that works on the same principle as my gauntlet. It uses one of those little crystals in the lamps to funnel vys into the gem, eventually causing it to explode. At least, that's my theory. I haven't tried it yet.}

A wave of unease strikes you. {Are you sure it's a good idea to test it below the estate? What if you cause some sort of cave in, or similar disaster?}

He seems completely unconcerned. {Don't worry about a thing, Mik. I found this little secluded alcove and with the help of Chryssa and Fulvia we've managed to create a sort of reinforced box. I doubt you have any reason to fear a collapse. Anyway, I'm flipping the switch which activates the device so if you hear a boom in a few minutes that's what you're hear-}

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The ground shakes violently and a muffled explosion can be heard from some distant point below you. You're forced to grab hold of the railing to prevent yourself from tumbling down the stairs. You'd be willing to bet that the entirety of El-Amin heard that, especially considering how expansive the tunnels beneath your estate are supposed to be. Once the ground stops shaking, you reach out once more to your companions via the brooches. {Is everyone okay? That sounded like a larger explosion than anyone was anticipating.}

Chryssa is the first to respond. {Thaddeus appears to be unconscious but otherwise we are unharmed, though dazed. Thaddeus was stepping out of the reinforced room when the device went off, he smashed into the cavern wall. I do not believe anything is broken and Darzi is attending to his injuries. The testing chamber remains undamaged.}

Well, you're pleased to learn that the test was a success. Hopefully Skull Kid, or Thaddeus as he seems to be going by these days, will know better than to activate an untested device while in the same room as said device going forward.

You take a brief peek into the greenhouse, finding the hectic and disorganized pillars of greenery replaced by neat, orderly rows of plantlife. Most of the plants on display are merely sprouts, though you do see a few adult plants as well. Presumably it will grow into an invaluable herb garden for Mortia to take advantage of.

You also take a brief detour into the baths. As you descend the spiral staircase you're surprised to find that the walls and tile have been completely redone. Water spews from a brass font into a similar brass basin, the cold baths. There is a door leading into a separate room where the hot baths are presumably relegated. Delicate silken screens afford bathers some privacy and chest allow them safe places to store their belongings.

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Finally you slip into your bedroom, finding it just as you left it. Zahak has curled up inside the fireplace, a bed of ashes and hot coals smoldering beneath him. It's amazing how small he can make himself seem when he curls up on himself. He doesn't seem to immediately notice your presence, but when the goat you've been dragging along lets out a nervous bleat his eyes snap open.

{Papa! You're back!} He slides out of the fireplace with surprising grace, ashes staining the scales on one half of his body black and white. He stalks towards the goat, letting out a low hiss as he approaches. This does nothing to calm the goat, which is doing its best to get away from you and make a run for it. {Can I eat it now?}

>Sure, not like blood is hard to clean off of a stone floor. Especially not for a Water Vatis.
>Have him take the goat into the kitchen, that's the proper place to slaughter animals anyway.
>Write-in

>Meditate on en element.
>Meditate on an effect.
>Meditate on a meta.
>Meditate on an artifact.
>Meditate on (write-in)
>Read instead of meditate.
>Write-in

>>37972720
YESS!!!

>>37972751
>>Sure, not like blood is hard to clean off of a stone floor. Especially not for a Water Vatis.
>Meditate on en element.
metal

>>37972751
>Meditate on an effect.
Create.

Shit, almost forgot. The dude making a schedule and taking notes posted his work for the first 95 threads:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZb__69OnvXiaTn2JFFc76boNhuYO7w2_LQn4Ex9J3E/edit#bookmark=id.hzgr1bq8mjcp

>Banished Quest
>Banished Quest!

It's the best time of the week, at last.

>>37972793
Seconded

>>37972793
thirded

>>37972751
>Meditate on an effect
Create

I'd like to get these effects and meta's put of the way

>>37972816
Man that's awesome. Now I really have to finish the pastebin cuz that anon left me in the dust.

>>37972816
Working on getting the last few threads in. This is basically every single significant tidbit of info with some consequence/interest/investigation voiced. My personal notes are interspread throughout and I've a few recommendations and observations in the end. I'd recommend reading the mythology section first, and the companion section later.

One thing I'd like to do this thread is to teach Profectus battle meditation. He's the third most competent fighter and with his shield, he'll start taking a much larger roll soon. Fire meditation and battle meditation have high synergy, and hopefully that'll push him over the plateau he's been stuck on.


>>34740939
Battle Meditation, Fire Synergy: She frowns, slightly. “Fine. Essentially the method involves shifting through all of the basic forms of Marsala Ve. I found it difficult at first to perform without a spear on hand, as many of the forms are reliant on the spear. I've been trying to turn it into some sort of 'battle trance' but I haven't managed to perfect the method yet. I find that it's particularly useful if you're trying to learn fire magic, likely because the forms of Marsala Ve are so closely tied to the ancient orders of warrior-priest dedicated to Surya. That said, it's just as useful as normal meditation for any of the other elements.”

>>37972751
>Meditate on an effect.
Create.

>>37972751
>Sure, not like blood is hard to clean off of a stone floor. Especially not for a Water Vatis.
>>37972793
>>37972865
>>37972853
>>37972845
I'm not against this, but i have to ask why are you guys so obsessed with create?
We all know it has meh transfer, and we can't create gold out of it.

>>37972873
Pastebin a shit. Google docs is where all the cool quest stuff is put.

>>37972893
He has to know our forms first, so have Darzi teach him.

Rolled 11 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37972751
>Meditate on en element.

>>37972915
I'll show you! Pastebin isn't irrelevant, not yet at least.

>>37972751
>>Meditate on a meta.
Quick read on two meta's.
and meditate on anyone of them.
WE NEED VYS GUYS.
And For our warlock armor, wouldn't be surprised if thats the point where we could use it with little to no side effects.

>>37972927
That's a good idea.

>>37972720
Early today, aren't we? Good job, Soma.
>>37972738
Damn SK, you a crazy nigga. A bit too violently crazy for my liking, to be honest.
>>37972751
>>Sure, not like blood is hard to clean off of a stone floor. Especially not for a Water Vatis.
>Meditate on an element
We need to git gud at Metal if we want to take advantage of the Metal Codex further.
Also that reinforcement, I can't wait until we stop a Pa'vala beast's charge with out bare hands while staying completely still, or fall 500 meters and come out completely unharmed.

>>37972816
This is amazing, also Varvar said the Banished goddess's name was Srsti, so we now know all of there names.

>>37972893
This is really helpful, thanks for all your hard work Note-anon.

Rolled 6 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37972751
>Have him take the goat into the kitchen, that's the proper place to slaughter animals anyway.

>>37972793
>>37972845
>>37972853
>>37972865
>>37972904
>Effect

>>37972938
>>37972779
>>37973006
>Element

>>37972956
>Meta

Calling it. Create seems more or less unanimous among the folks voting for effect and let him eat the goat here wasn't really contested. ROOOOLL 3d10+6 vs DC 30. Create is a complex effect.

Rolled 3, 1, 10 + 6 = 20 (3d10 + 6)

>>37973036
DIIEEEE IIIIICCE

Rolled 4, 1, 9 + 6 = 20 (3d10 + 6)

>>37973036
rollan

Rolled 7, 3, 1 + 6 = 17 (3d10 + 6)

>>37972927
Yes please, sweaty training session with Darzi when?
>>37973036
oh well

>>37973010
Noted in the Mythology section. Sehzade's remarks were also supported by the Metal codex:


>>36277587

Mythology, God of Metal: The text itself is almost is interesting. It tells the story of the god Dhatu, how he was born concurrently to the other five Greater Deities; Pani, Surya, Prthvi, and She who is Banished. It recounts his domination of the other various gods of death, until he eventually came to be the sole god remaining dedicated to the concept.

You turn the page, and story continues. It recounts Dhatu's battle with Prthvi to claim the rights to the domain of Wealth. Eventually, Dhatu won out. Thus, when Surya was disemboweled and his entrails dried to weave the fabric of the world from the very thread of his being, Dhatu became the patron of all metals, while Prthvi became the patron of all stones.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36274818/images/1416462528350.jpg

Now we all the big five, so to speak. Srsti the goddess of nature (She who was Banished, former lover and murderer of Prthvi), Prthvi the god of Earth, Pani, Surya, and Dhatu the God of Metal and "Deaths".

>>37973047
>>37973048
>>37973050
>20, 20, 17 vs DC 30
>Failure!
You can only spend 11 vys, so you can't turn this into a success. However, going forward you will have a +2 modifier to learning this effect.

>>37972893
> What does this mean? Are the artifacts involved? Does the signet ring have special abilities?
Why are you ignoring the
>so long as he is placated with sacrifices
It seems what ever the shah can do, would need sacrifices.
You should mention which god represents which element, since i think you mixed up the metal and earth gods.

Rolled 4, 8, 7 + 6 = 25 (3d10 + 6)

>>37973036
welp should we try void?

I'd understand if you Anons wouldn't want to, kinda got a scare last time with a void creature.

>>37973066
Nah why waste vys?

>>37973067
>>37972893
By that i mean the sections early on, maybe once you are done you should check for any mistakes.

>>37973036
What..kind of meditation did we do?
We didn't vote to even try to do it in the void..

>>37973087
Nah lets move on to a meta, or bulk read all of our meta scrolls(soma confirmed we can do this, plus its easy vys)

>>37972893
I don't think teaching Prof Marsala Ve is a good idea, he has other shit to do, it wouldn't mesh well with his techniques either.
Also, it'd require more time than just teaching him Fire the regular way and such, worth it imo.
>>37973050
You do realize he's not talking about Mik, right?

Rolled 8, 7, 10 + 6 = 31 (3d10 + 6)

>>37973116
regular

>>37973066
Why didn't we try and do this in the void, or was there a choice before?

>>37973123
Anon, if only you were sooner with that.

>>37973126
no choice on the type of meditation anon

>>37973126
>>37973116
Doing a vote every time to determine whether or not you use a certain method or technique would be tedious, so in the absence of someone stating 'meditate on reality/forms/et cetera' you'll do regular meditation.

>>37973123
Why the fuck we we do this?
Effects and meta's are a joke in the void.
Ass holes keep wanting to try to do it regular.
At least battle meditation gives us some physical strength we may need.

>>37973132
I was the 2nd roll, just forgot to turn off my dice

One day we will have another crit.

>>37973096
Uh, I checked in triplicate and I'm pretty sure the entries are all accurate. Can you point to the mussup? Also, I've an idea for our golem creation and fixing our relations with the goddamn cat. First off, Void entities can possess golems:

>>36519714
Sehzade's Notes, Void Entity Golem Possession: The Hiacians beat a retreat as void creatures spilled from the hole, slaughtering the Rhynian troops. Curiously, he states that the Rhynian golems were possessed by the strange spirits of the void, turning them against their masters. Eventually the hole closed itself, but it persisted for months according to the Varistha's writings.
SA's Notes: Void Entities and Spirits share a common baseline. Will the fucking cat be able to possess any golems we make as shells/servants? Or as Saboteurs?

Entities also are similar to Spirits:

>>36341504
Nature of Spirits and Entities: Spirits, the Varistha believes, are merely void entities which have escaped that horrid realm and adapted to live in ours. That's why older spirits are so similar to creatures from the void, according to the Varistha.

Perhaps we can create a physical form for the god damn cat to possess and interact with the world as an olive branch? We'll set agreements to protect ourselves and the people of the Kingdom first, of course.

>>37973150
>>37973147
well we didn't state void or regular so Soma did regular.

I'll state which one from now on, I had assumed we were doing void unfortunately.

>>37973172
>SA's Notes: The Horned God, Prthvi isn't slumbering. He was assassinated by someone or something, maybe as a result of offering Surya to Pani?
Is the part i was talking about, i'm reading it right now so i figured there might be more problems later on.

>>37973210
>SA's Notes: Pani really doesn't like Hiacians. Or people dressed like Suryans.

Also this part, was when we were wearing rythain armour.

>>37973147
Thanks, for that.

Not saying it's your fault.
Just saying guys, any time we meditate. Lets me serious.
Reality meditation, could be the dierence between a pass or fail.
And when learning meta's and effects. It also takes less time.
And Once we've done all/most meta's/effects. We could go hard into battle meditations.
Get mik BUFF

>>37973172
>>37973064
Sorry I meant to say your notes had the info on her name, so thanks for that Note Anon!

>>37973242
I agree, we'll specify next time Anon.

>>37973210
>>37973239
Prthvi is the horned god. He had a leash around Surya and was depicted as offering it to Pani.

Surya is leashed by a collar of what you think is earth, the horned figure bowing low to what you think is Pani and offering her a chain. The next image is that of another figure you don't recognize. Feminine, you think, though it's hard to tell. It has its arms crossed before it, and then it withdraws a long, curved dagger. It creeps up behind the horned figure, now alone, and drives the dagger into its back.


So? That doesn't change the fact that Pani is often depicted as stabbing Hiacians, or people wearing Suryan styled armor. Might not be the best idea to commune with someone who has images of them emblazoned on their temple of killing people that kinda look or act like you, ya'know?

>>37973242
Once we get 80 vys we won't have to worry about failing meditations.

>>37973281
Yeah.

Even if this is a failure. This better solve any issues for the asses that wanted regular meditations.
Even with the failure soma should do his thing and describe this failure enough or you guys but hurt about not doing regular meditations any more.
for a couple dozen or so more threads. >.>

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>>37973350
> >.>

>>37973350
Way to assume negligence is malicious intent. So negative, take a chill pill.

>>37973242
Yeah, sure, let's risk getting eaten by void entities every time we meditate.
Great fucking idea.

>>37973121
Actually, if you look at our other companions, he has some of the most free time. He doesn't have that much magical potential as an Elf or as that weird spirit thing keeps leech at him. The obvious course of action is to improve his efficacy at physical combat. He doesn't have that much else available.

>>37973350
Failing a regular meditation can still prove insightful Anon.

>>37755964
You tried creating an empty space in the center of the cloud of vys to separate it into two easily manageable chunks. What you ended up doing was creating some sort of strange internal environment where the vys began to rotate rapidly around the empty point at the center. You released it before it resulted in anything, but it might be worth looking into at some point.

>>37973526
>He could apparently cast Manipulate Vys to force his apprentices to do as he liked, even going so far as to orchestrate an entire song and dance just to work on his control.
Jesus to think people have been asking for blood bending, when this shit already existed.
>There ARE Vys Formulas.
Might be good to give to SK.
We should practice our oud more.it would be great to make music to help our son sleep

>>37973526
Actually soma showed that only happened if we are in the void in our soul form for an extended period of time, but he also shows we can escape them as well.

>>37973643
How can you people be so fucking dumb every single fucking time.

>>37973663
He's absolutely right though. They only come if you stay too long.

>>37973558
I just don't want to teach an Elf our ancestors' combat technique, man.
He already has a working technique, just teach him more fire and earth for now, he can work on brushing up his Rhynian martial arts skills on his own meanwhile.
The most I could agree to is just having Chrys, Darzi, and Prof spar with each other regularly to get used to fighting different styles.
>>37973622
I want the "lol, Mik is horrible at the oud" thing to die already, it was funny the first couple times, but not since then.
Also, Vys is supposedly a lost meta/effect, although there was a scroll in Anthus, we don't know if it's still there and if it's for sale.
I also think that figuring it out ourselves to experiments would give us more vys.

>>37973663
they only come if we stay too long anon, the reason that one came was because we were there for two meditations.
>>37973695
Same which is why i want to improve our oud playing skills.
The priest has shown how useful it is, and maybe learning it could afford us some vys.
>>37973147
Would becoming competent and than trying to do elements and other spells on the oud gain us any vys?

>>37973679
Different Anon, but I'm afraid that a failure in initial "find a gate safely" roll will end up with us floating to a gate where a void entity is waiting.

Not to say void meditation isn't useful, it's just that we should be aware there is a risk in even casual use.

>>37973695
Thing is, Prof isn't a caster like us. We've been neglecting the fact that he's a soldier first, and that the Vatis thing is secondary nature. Also, he doesn't have much drive. We have to badger him constantly to improve, and that's just on the magic side. He couldn't even be arsed to get himself a shield, the most important tool in his style. Having another master motivate him and drive him to do stuff can only be beneficial and get him more competent. Also, seriously? Seriously man? Ancestors? They're not even your's!

>>37973695
>, although there was a scroll in Anthus, we don't know if it's still there and if it's for sale.
Soma siad that its still in the city, but we don't know if its still for sell.
Also i doubt anons would go for experimenting with it, when in reality we know jack shit about it other than it helps improves spells.

>>37973695
>we don't know if it's still there
It's still there. As long we don't take too long to get to Anthus it will still be there.

>>37972816

>Defeat, Palace Mosaic

Ah the Nerevar reference, I wonder who is this warrior martyr in Samrajyan history.

>>37973748
Its a dc of 20, with any bonuses we get from the area.
So its pretty hard to fail, but i forgot if we can use vys to help or not.
>>37973762
Don't forget that soma hinted that either his or darzi's limit was expert.

>>37973766
Vys Manipulate can be used to control peoples bodies like puppets.

>>37973766
>we know jack shit
Lol no, we know it manipulates Vys itself, which is an inherent part of life and souls.
I'm pretty sure we could figure it out eventually, by fucking around with Manipulate and other effects, as well as some magic and water.

Dhatu: Finally he tosses out another useful tidbit though. “One of them [Elaudian] mentioned some ancient sort of armor they'd found in one of those old temples, but when I asked to see it he wouldn't let me! ... Apparently it was a gift from some 'Dhatu' figure. They called him the Many-Faced Constant.”
>ancient sort of armor
>gift from Dhatu

GOD ARMOR GOD ARMOR GOD ARMOR

>>37973766
>>32340679
Vys Manipulation: You would use Manipulate Vys to control other living creatures. Vys is essentially life-force or a creature's soul, so manipulating it allows you to control what they do.
Grandmaster Rostam, who's journal you read, used it to force his apprentices into an elaborate song and dance.

>>37973835
I noticed that too. Seems worth looking into.

>>37973835
Holy shit, who said that? Was it Haynes?

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>>37973888
Lord Hodei of Anthus.

>>37973905
HODOR?

soma, since varvar said that vys was the leftovers of soul's and also poison doesn't that mean it's actually soul shit, as in soul waste? so basically what all vatis are wastemancers.

{Go ahead and eat, I can clean up the blood easily enough. Enjoy the goat as a reward for all your hard work.} Letting go of the rope lead, you step back to allow Zahak to pounce. The nanny goats manages three steps towards the door before Zahak pounces, wings held flush against his torso. The hooks on the end of his wings dig into the goat's flank as his teeth dig into its neck. It's dragged to the floor with a crash, bleating in panic as Zahak tears open its throat.

Ignoring your adoptive son as he goes about enjoying his meal, you reach into your cloak and extract your Utility Effects book. You toss your cloak onto your dresser before kicking off your boots and make yourself comfortable. The panic bleating of the goat dies away as you crack the binding on the book and flip through the pages until you find the section dedicated to the Create effect.

The entry begins with a lengthy disclaimer stating that the create effect ought only be used in emergencies, as converting vys into physical material is an incredibly draining task for even the most powerful Vatis. It's also nigh impossible to predict how much it will cost to create an object the first time. For a baker, it might only cost one vys to make a loaf of bread. For someone who doesn't even know how to make dough it could cost the whole of a Vatis' reserves to create a small roll.

The author gives an example from his own life. Apparently the author was a Grandmaster Water Vatis at the time of writing this tome, and he could create roughly a gallon of water for an insignificant amount of vys. Creating ice only cost him slightly more for a good sized chunk. However, when he tried to create a block of stone to meditate on Earth magic with he found himself lying unconscious on the floor, drained of vys before he could make so much as a pebble.
(1/?)

As for the actual mechanics of how the effect works, the author describes it as like laying layer upon layer of tightly compacted vys until you get a block of ethereal goo in the vague shape of whatever it is one wishes to create. At that point, one must merely channel enough vys into the goo to give it actual form. However, compacting vys is not so simple as it sounds. One must first let it drain from their reserves before collecting it and compressing it. Once they compress it enough it should begin to take on a darker coloration and should be barely visible even when one isn't meditating.

Layering the vys is even more difficult, and will invariably result in losing a fair portion of the vys compressed. Essentially one must build a solid block of this semi-solid vys and then shave off chunks until it begins to resemble whatever it is one wishes to create. This is at least partially why creating liquids is easier than creating solids, as one may skip this step when creating a formless substance.

The actual creation of the object is at least cut and dry, one simply channels vys into the item they've created until it gathers enough energy to make itself real. It's not a process that needs to be micromanaged, and in fact attempting to do so often leads to failure or unintended side effects, like fish with six eyes and stone organs, or other such monstrosities. Meditating on the effect is similarly simple, one ought merely go through the steps in an attempt to create something they're familiar with.

You dog-ear the page and set the book aside, sitting up and assuming a meditative pose. Zahak seems to have ripped open the goat's abdomen and is quite enjoying rooting through its insides, an occasional burst of flame illuminating it from within, giving its skin a strangely translucent quality.

>>37973975
>>37973995
Huh. That's different from what we learned from what it said before. This is a continuation of our unfinished reading of create, right?

> Channeling vys into the helmet will activate what myself and my comrades dubbed 'the Sight'. It allows you to see the ebbs and flows of vys as well as... other things. The Rhynians courted foul beast. Much like the one that inhabits that cloak of yours.” There is a teasing tone to the Varistha's voice as he says this. “Without the Sight many of our number would've been disemboweled by those foul creatures.”
I forgot about this, we should use the helmet more.

You close your eyes, slipping into a trance without difficulty. You let vys drain from you, it's a procedure you grow increasingly familiar with, and collect it in front of you. You're just going to try and make perhaps a single cup's worth of water. It's a substance you're intimately familiar with and it shouldn't really drain your reserves.
>Vys Pool: (45/45)

Once you've collected the vys, you set about compressing it into a thin sheet. You make good progress, but as you layer one sheet on top of another you begin to notice inconsistencies. There will be a bump here, or a tear there. As you continue to layer more and more sheets of vys on top of one another they begin to melt together, forming a sort of amorphous whole. As you channel vys into the blob to make it reality, you wind up creating a glob of some sort of gooey, blue substance. It reminds you of clay, but far more pliable.

Your eyes snap open and you quickly pluck up the blob before it can stain your sheets. Examining it, you can say with confidence that what you've created is quite far removed from water. Squeezing it, the substance oozes out between your fingers. Releasing your grip you find it maintains its shape. You wonder, absentmindedly, if it might have some sort of artistic application.

You're not sure how much time has passed but Zahak has finished eating and once more taken up his spot inside the smoldering fireplace, eyes shut and breathing steady. You roll the putty-like substance between your hands until it's formed into a ball, then set it gently down on top of your dresser. It starts to settle, oozing out across the wooden surface, but only slowly.

>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.
>Get some rest, it's dark out and you've got a big day ahead of you.
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.
>Meditate again on something else. (State whether or not you use a special method)
>Write-in

>>37974071

Sound like the creature we fought in the mine elevator.

>>37974065
Had y'all read Create before? I don't honestly recall, I just checked the pastebin and saw that I hadn't marked it as read.

>>37974129
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.

>>37974129
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.
Message our friends to see if they're alright.

>>37974129
>Vys given solid form is silly putty
Neat

>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.

>>37974129
>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.

Start giving out assignments and check on their advancement. Also, Skull Kid's explanation and possibility of replication.

>>37974129
>Clean the blood off the floor.
>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.

>>37974129
>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.

>>37974157
https://archive.moe/tg/thread/34185818/#34198247
Beginning here.

https://archive.moe/tg/thread/34185818/#34197257
And the vote for it.

Though to be honest, I like this recent version more.

>>37973995
>fish with six eyes and stone organs, or other such monstrosities
Ooooh, experiments!
But really, that seems strange, just letting vys take form by itself. Maybe it could be helped with enchanting? Something to look into. Also, Manipulate should help with the layering and vys-management, also couldn't Leech get back any stray vys lost during the layering/shaping process?
So if we max out our anatomy knowledge, we could Creat a complete body out of vys?
>>37974129
Clay? Some mysterious reverse-non-Newtonian substance?
We must research it! Use Metal and Earth to find out its structure and how it works, what it is, what it's made of, see if we can manipulate it with one of the elements, see how it reacts to fire6heat!

>>37974129
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.
Tell SK about the substance, he might know what it is.also tell him about create

>>37974129
write in

>eat the putty

>>37974157
I think we read it in a different book.

>>37974129

Take it to SK for identification.

Also, how hard is it for a Grandnaster Metal vatis to create gold?

>>37974210
>Maybe it could be helped with enchanting?
You want to try enchanting Vys itself as a semi-goopy substance?

I wonder if that's how they made the magical sniff-potions.

>>37974129
>>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.

Communicate through brooches?

>>37974129
Clean up after Zahak

>>37974129
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.
>Get some rest, it's dark out and you've got a big day ahead of you.
>>37974250
Seconding.

>>37974235
Well, enchanting involves changing the very base aspects of objects on the metaphysical level, and Creat is giving Vys such aspects through turning it into a real substance. Or maybe taking away some aspects, and really Vys is just the eprfect thing that has all aspects possible within it?

>>37974235
>You want to try enchanting Vys itself as a semi-goopy substance?
>I wonder if that's how they made the magical sniff-potions.
It could be through Permanency too you know. Just enchant the liquid with a spell too cast on the drinker.

>>37974231
Please stop anon, we had soma tell you many times no to the idea.

>>37974129
Pretty much >>37974204

>>37974227
Same book. Seems Mik merely skimmed it the first time.

>>37974210
>So if we max out our anatomy knowledge, we could Creat a complete body out of vys?
maybe we can give the entity a body.

>>37974129
>Check on your companions, make sure everyone is alright.
>Take a bath, you smell like sweat and dirt and rotting fish.
>>37974281
We already slept.

>>37974304
Now that's a worthy experiment.

>>37974231
>Also, how hard is it for a Grandnaster Metal vatis to create gold?
That depends on whether or not you want too receive the death penalty.

>>37974332
ANON, NO
STOP THINKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW
NOTHING GOOD COULD EVER COME FROM THAT
I was thinking more a body for Fulvia, or SK, or Mik himself. Maybe chrys, if her lifespan is really short?

>>37974332
because that definitely isn't a bad idea.

>>37974209
Huh, sure enough. Usually I'm pretty good about remembering that sort of thing. Anyway, I think the way I conceptualize the spell has changed since the first reading, so I'll stick with this version.

So cleaning up after Zahak is assumed. Seems like taking a bath and checking on companions are the most popular choices. Writin'

>>37974361
I'm 99% that doesn't qualify as an experiment.

>>37974376
Or, ya'know, we could do the same with Golems. Maybe bargain with the damn cat for knowledge of possession?

>>37973172

>>37974394
Didn't mean it that way anon, just purely the laymen means of the meaning.

>>37974361
We should try to meditate on the potion we have so we can try to figure how to reproduce them.
>>37974394
Experimenting with Permanency would be an experiment.

>>37974413
OR we could just work out knowledge ourselves.
It's been confirmed that taking shortcuts is not a good idea. I still say we should just learn runes BY LOOKING AT OUR SHIT instead of bargaining for it every time.

>>37974438
Indeed. The runes for Soul and Mind are likely on our new BBEG spear, though DC's for those concepts are high I believe they're worth the look.

>>37974431
Experimenting with it would be, sure.
But just casting it on a spell and seeing what happens doesn't qualify as an experiment, Soma has confirmed this.

>>37974461
That's referring to normal Effects/Metas and Permanency is not a normal Meta.

>>37974461
could we try something like casting poison or paralyze on a glass of water? And if that works we could use permanency on it.

>Mik alone in bedroom for hours, as far as servants are concerned
>He brought a goat in with him, tracks clear on the clean floors
>goopy substance all over his dresser

GoatfuckerReputation.jpg

>>37974459
Also all the shit on our Rhynian armor.
AND OUR FUCKING RING.
MAKE MAGNIFY ALREADY AND LEARN THE RUNES THAT LET US HEAL SANITY!!!!

>>37974514
actually the servants know about our giant pet lizard.

>>37974503
You don't get it anon.
"Do X, see what happens" doesn't qualify as an experiment, is what I'm getting at.
Can we get some clarification on this, Soma?

>>37974503
I actually remember Soma confirming that create+paralyze+water would create paralyzing water.
Just add create to that.

>>37974503
Create+Poison was supposedly supposed to create liquid poison according to Soma. Don't know if that's changed yet.

>>37974514
It's only a reputation if we do it with regularity.
So, uh, yeah..

>>37974129
Bath time, reflect on the waters properties while doing so

>>37974553
>"Do X, see what happens" doesn't qualify as an experiment, is what I'm getting at.
Soma said that only counts for normal Effect/Metas and Permanency is not a normal Meta.

>>37974553
It's a test to prove a theory.
The theory being that the magic potions are just "stored" spells.
If it works then we just need to figure out what kind of combinations we can do with what we know,
If it fails then we need to get Mortia in on it.

>>37974555
I wonder if just Create+Paralysis would do anything?

>>37974655
>I wonder if just Create+Paralysis would do anything?
Doubtful

>>37974553
All I know for experiments is that one laser thing he confirmed as an experiment example, and this one other thing from his ask.

>Soma, given our latest meditation it seems theoretically possible to channel effects through what appears as elemental casting. Though channeling may be not the right word. Say we have an ice spear and detach some of our vys pool into it, keeping it there with manipulate, and then launching the ice
>That would indeed theoretically be possible, but wouldn't really fall under the 'Hidden' meta.

>spear and after it lands or misses or stops short we reattach it's Vys to our pool as per knowledge of Hidden and cast Fire+Burst from the spear itself/its location. Would this be complex enough for an alright experiment or would it just be an Element+Hidden technique that we'd have to study/learn?
>I'd say that would be complex enough for an experiment.
And those were for elements. They're pretty classical examples of experimentation, it's just testing a semi-deep hypothesis.

>>37974620
I think the fact that it's not a normal meta makes it an experiment too, because it's really quite advanced when compared to effects/metamagics, since it's adding our Soul to whatever instead of just applying vys in a different way.

Do the sanity protecting aspects of metal magic simply protect from negative effects or from all outside influences?

>>37974797
All outside influences man.

>>37973590
Yeah, getting fucked up may teach you how to fight to.
But actually winning the fight is better, short term and long.
Succeeding is better than failing is my point.
Especially if there is a choice to makes it a lot less likely.

Alright, here's a question, can we weaponize healing magic?
Healing magic works by providing vys and basically just letting the body fix itself.
Is it possible to reverse the process?
To have the body start breaking itself down?
My first thought is just trying to control the healing more, but I don't think that would do it.
Continuing in the strain of "unhealing" Chrys mentioned that earth magic can be used to erode sanity, could we erode the targets self image, for lack of a better word, and then "heal" them causing parts to just die?

>>37975142
Or we could just petrify them.

>>37975142
How about causing cancerous tumors to grow on their bodies, making them unable to move effectively?

>>37975142
Water magic healing can possibly rot flesh but we've not tried it.

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>>37975142
That's the most terrible (ethically) magic suggestion I've read yet.

Might be better with metal since we're altering perception, rather than sanity.

>>37975142
Sounds like it'd be easier to just kill them with an ice spear.

>>37975213
It would be, and also cheaper.

>>37975142
>>37975190
>>37975197
>>37975203
>>37975213
You guy do realize we could try a Water to Earth transmutation on them to petrify them.

>>37975167
>>37975213
Warriors
>>37975203
Paladin
>>37975197
>>37975190
>>37975142
vatis

>>37975270
Or we could burn their body to ash.

>>37975270
It's a neat idea. Though from what I remember it's costly to transmute something.

>fags not wanting to experiment
pls go and stay go

>>37975290
>>37975270
We could just suck all the water out of their body. It'd be a lot easier.

You glance at the mangled carcass of the goat that Zahak has left. It sits within a pool of now mostly dried or at the very least gelatinous blood. You condense water from the air and use it to wash away any remnants, a simple manipulate spell opening one of the windows in your bedroom and allowing you to toss the fluids into the ocean. The goat itself is a slightly more difficult task, as its corpse weighs a little more than what you can easily lift with manipulate. You end up grabbing it by its mutilated legs and hauling it over to the window, pitching its corpse into the dark waters below.

Man, your neighbors are going to think you're weird as hell. If you have neighbors. You haven't met any of them yet.

With the goat corpse taken care of, you shut the window and make for the door. Zahak has slept through the disturbance, he seems to be doing a lot of sleeping and eating lately. You suppose he's growing like a weed, it makes sense. As you gently shut the door, you reach out to your companions via the brooches. {How is everyone? No permanent injuries, I trust.}

Skull Kid responds. {Nah, nah. I'm fine. Just a little addled, is all. I've got a few implants that speed healing and my bones are laced with metal supports so I'm pretty sturdy, really. Gotta be when you're the explosives expert in a gang of bank robbers. Anyway, I'm making a few repairs to my helmet up in the tower right now with Fulvia's help. Some of the lenses cracked.}

You wonder why those two are so close. Is it just because he's mostly constructed of metal? Well, whatever. None of your business really. {What about the rest of you? Everyone alright?}

(1/3)

>>37975290
>>37975299
It's worth an experiment.

>>37975167
>>37975213
Simplicity isn't the point, being edgy isn't either though.
The talk of experiments just has me curious.

>>37975190
That's a possibility, causing cells to replicate out of control might be something we could do.

>>37975197
I don't recall that, but it's something to think about.

>>37975203
Oh yeah, it's definitely fucked up, I would vote against Mik ever actually using it on someone, but science is science.
I don't know about metal though, isn't it all about reinforcing?

Chrys is asleep, as is Profectus, so you assume they're fine, but Mortia's voice pushes through the connection you share. {My ears were bleeding pretty badly after the test but Darzi repaired by shattered eardrums. Last experiment I ever watch. Unrelated, but have you seen what they've done with the tower cellar? It's gorgeous, I could spend days locked down here.}

Darzi responds as well. {I'm fine. I was standing well away from the test chamber itself so I didn't suffer any ill effects from the noise or heat. Profectus had some pretty bad burns on his normal arm, and Chrys was a little burned as well, but they'll be fine. I healed them up. The only one who suffered major injury was Skull Kid and, as he's said, he's sturdier than most. What are you up to? I feel like I haven't seen you in days.}

You step into the bathhouse. The cold room, or 'frigidarium' as the Rhynians would've called it, also serves as the changing room and is typically the first bath one enters. The calidarium ought to be in another, separate room. You wonder absentmindedly whether you've got a full bath, including a tepidarium, or merely the hot and cold rooms. {I'm about to try out the bathing facilities, in preparation for the festivities tomorrow. I've been busy the last few days shopping for the most part, though yesterday I helped a little girl find her way home after her mother was murdered by some thug.}

{How altruistic.} You detect a note of approval in Darzi's mental tone, for lack of a better word. {What happened to the thug who killed her mother?}

(2/3 or 4)

>>37975316
It would be easier, but then we would not have them ball ass statues.

You shrug off your robes and shed your trousers, folding your clothes neatly in a pile and securing them within one of the chest relegated for such purposes. That done, you emerge from behind the silk screen separating the changing area from the general bath and slowly sink into the icy pool that serves as the cold bath. Water spills from a brass pipe sticking out of the wall, constantly replenishing the water which drains through a grate on the floor of the bath. For now, you simply soak. The cold water numbs the pain in your aching joints quite well.

{Don't go dubbing me a hero just yet. Her father turned out to be the Grand Vizier to the Shah, Emir Yasin. Instead of getting a reward, I merely told him I was acting at the behest of my family. Hopefully my father will be able to turn that favor owed into political gain. Anyway, the thug is dead but he didn't die without revealing some useful information. Information about a group of Vatis operating inside the city which smuggle Aghtaki back into the walls and heal their brands.}

Darzi seems shocked. {Why would someone want to let Aghtaki into the city? They're the scum of the Earth! Present company excluded, of course. Though you're no longer technically one of them.}

{There are plenty of reasons to smuggle an Aghtaki back into the city. Perhaps their family wants to see them again, or maybe they were useful to somebody powerful. Maybe they merely had the money to afford it and the Vatis are greedy. Who knows? The group are called Vidyarthi, we actually passed their compound on our way to the temple. It was that massive fortress at the edge of a canyon.}

(3/4)

>>37975335
>I don't recall that, but it's something to think about.
From the gm who (legend) purportedly rotted his flesh off with water magic before reforming it into something else.

>>37975318
>a simple manipulate spell opening one of the windows in your bedroom and allowing you to toss the fluids into the ocean.
We live that fucking close to the ocean?
I thought we lived in the dock area. and not a beach location. or pressed right up against the sea.
THIS IS AWESOME.

>>37975355
We could stuff them with gold or something so they have real skin, but they shine with gold from their orifices. I just realized how dark that sounds but fuck that'd be cool

{Are we going to do anything about it? Couldn't your master get one of his friends to erode the side of the canyon such that the entire compound just collapses into the abyss? We can't let this go on.} Ugh, of course Darzi would want to go rushing into an issue that doesn't concern your party.

>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.
>A quick look around the compound couldn't hurt, and you have artifacts which would make slipping in and out trivial.
>What those Vatis are doing is good for everyone, really. How bad can Aghtaki really be? You were among their number and you're great. Suresh, the Archmagos of the Academy, is also an Aghtaki and he's as kind as anyone you've ever met.
>Write-in

>>37975308
So when are we going to invent Partial Invisibility to get our anatomy grinding in check?
>make skin invisible, study how muscles work
>make muscles invisible too, study how bones work
For more practical studies, we could separate our self from our body and use magic to vivisect, or just hire poor people to use as subjects, I think Water can be used to numb the body and counteract pain? If not, we can just use Manipulate+Pain, probably.
Reminder that cutting off an arm, then healing it, while using Nature to mimic the process with plant tissues, making a possibly biologically sound arm out of plants, qualifies as an experiment.
Reminder that we could also try this with Ice at the same time.

>>37975335
Ballik used Metal magic to cloud our senses, synergizing it with Music magic. At the point where you don't percieve yourself, rapid body decay is the last thing you ought to be worried about. Like, would your brain even be telling your heart to breathe?

>>37975308

We should experiment, we could try not to use it on persons as to avoid conflict with the the more ethically and morally inflexible among us.

>>37975390
>"They have lots of gold, so yes we are going."
MONEY MONEY MONEY

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

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>>37975382
Oh yeah, you're right on the water. Hell, some of your estate is in the water itself.

Anyway, I gotta go to class so I'll be back in an hour or two. See yah soon, folks.

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975390
>A quick look around the compound couldn't hurt, and you have artifacts which would make slipping in and out trivial.

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975390
>A quick look around the compound couldn't hurt, and you have artifacts which would make slipping in and out trivial.
They probably have some nice artifacts.

>>37975390
>>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>Write-In:They're above our paygrade. Tons of masters. Also, we only have the testimony of a murderer and thug.

>>37975390
>>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975371
Oh yeah, that's right, the shapeshifter

>>37975400
i hadn't even thought about that, and I imagine if you worked hard enough you probably could get the body to just stop

>>37975454
>thug
Remember that guy was a Master and we curb-stomped him.

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975454
Seconding that latter half write-in.

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>>37975417

>>37975390
>I informed the Grand vizier, and I'd rather not get our heads into anything we can't handle right now, Darzi.
>How about you come join me in the baths instead, these are marvelous.
the second part will not be voted for, but I think it's pretty funny and may get her flustered. I also think mixed sex bathings are a thing, since the new Varistha at the temple joined us in the bath.

>>37975390
>>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975523
>>37975390
>>37975454
Supportan' delightful write-ins.

>>37975490
Was he really? I only recall Miks aying he probably has some magic knowledge but nothing extensive, since he didn't even know paralyze and manipulate.

>>37975551
Paralyze and Manipulate aren't as common as you think.

>>37975390
>>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.
Guys don't pick up. extra side quests.
AT BEST I am willing to say once we inish with Chys's problem and are getting back from Pav'al w.e it's called we can go.
We've a shit ton of stuff on our plate.
We bought our selves some time, but after chys's thing we should focus on getting that artifact. Cleansing ourselves. THEN doing this mission FOR THE SHAH.
Could give us a nice bonus towards when we get unbanished.
And Darzi a few ranks. Giving us much more lee-way and power.

>>37975390
>>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

>>37975490
That guy didn't even know any basic defensive spells. He couldn't even channel when he was paralyzed, which is something we could do at mastery level even when immobilized.

He was literally a nobody with an ego, not some arm of the organization (which he presumed we were, given our nature.)

>>37975578
I still think the artifact is a trap, or at least will have some negative consequences.

>>37975578
>Cleansing ourselves.
That isn't a pressing issue anymore since we have the trait A Terrible Thing to Waste the entity can't do jack shit.

>>37975614
Yeah, that. He wasn't the kind of experienced vatis that would be a member of some super secret criminal circle. Just an up-jumped mook.

>>37975614
>>37975551
He was likely a master or a expert in one element, but he isn't formally trained.
If that one element is fire hes a fucking powerhouse to anyone who isn't gm
Paralyze is harder to find than you think nerds.

>>37975390
>>37975454
>>37975523
>>37975578
I'll support these write-ins, we're kinda besy getting gud and prepairing for a party.

>>37975620
I'm thinking it's going to cost us memories

>>37975390
>You informed the Grand Vizier and he'll take care of it, but you don't want to get involved.

Mention how he spoke about sending men to infiltrate them, and how it be best to not to interfere if their is a chance of hurting his plans. Of course we could offer our services latter on.

>>37975631
>a unholy god has roosted in our mind and is trying to get us to spiral out of control and go mad
>less pressing than a small gang of vatis

>>37975666
Yeah, it's harder to find. And who would be the type of people who would have those kinds of effects or metas?

Well, probably the actual members of the organization itself, at the fortress where they delegate from. Nobody was even arguing your minor inconsequential point you big nerd.

>>37975698
That would make sense.
>>37975705
We both know his men are going to get slaughtered.

>>37975698
Me too.
Plus our knowledge of Runes, Enchanting, Permanency, and everything we got form spirits.
And possibly all our magic knowledge, since they needed the outside world to be achieved.
We don't know how liberal Soma will get with "all outside influences".

>>37975631
That's an assumption. Soma only said it changed our relationship with the entity, but not how.

>>37975620
Well varvar's notes did indicate that it had some fairly obvious negative side affects, if you can call them that. A pure mind isn't necessarily a great thing.

>>37975737
>>37975698
Wouldn't we just have to use Metal Magic reinforcement on what we want to keep, so the artifact will only affect what we want to lose?

>>37975631
Wrong you seem to think that because we got a trait he can't do anything.
We got a +6 to basically suppressing him.
He is getting stronger.
What happens if he gets as strong that our d/c goes up to 35?
Because
>we gah de trait hur dur

>>37975390
Supporting >>37975523
I want to see her being cute for once.

>>37975767
that sounds like some grandmaster shit anon, we aren't even at the level where we can protect our mind.

>>37975770
>he
>him
It's a she, anon.
>>37975767
You think some simple Metal magic would help against an artifact that can supposedly remove The Entity?

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>Mik created candles that can only be put out by a different element and each candle need a precise but different amount of vys to die out.
>Zahak face when he's still trying to blow his 1st birthday cake.

Forgot to refill our swords, again..

>>37975719
The entity is trapped and has no longer has any influence on our mind.
>>37975770
He's in our mind and we're the god of our mind do the math.

>>37975741
This is a bad idea and nothing good can come of it, but...
Can we negotiate with the entity? Our position is stronger now that we have passive sanity regen, our perk, and we'll hopefully have some better metal magic soon as well.
I'm not saying actually give it what it wants, that would be worse, but we might be able to figure out how to fight it better if we could better understand it.

>>37975790
>>37975792
We'd need to first learn it and how it works and then learn if it can actually be a selective thing and then also test it.

But it'd be worth it if doing nothing makes us somehow lose a vast portion of our mind, as our mythical knowledge of it indicates.

>>37975729

Yeah, but it be best its not us who slaughter them while raiding the place. If we want to do it we should offer our help to him and not do it independently.

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>>37975793
SONOFABITCH!

>>37975820
>negotiate
How? She's a fake/approaching god, and the only thing she wants right now is our body, or freedom. I doubt actually meeting her wouldn't give her a significant opportunity to hijack us as well.

>>37975698
Its an artifact not a spirit.
It shouldn't be able to request of such things.
It may be this powerful artifact, is just a spirit in disguise.
>>37975794
>we're the god of our mind do the math
Except theres ANOTHER GOD IN OUR MIND anon.
A FUCKING GOD IN THERE WITH US!
The madness anon!.
The madness!
But seriously considering he has been affecting us, with random bursts of anger here and there. The god clearly has some power over us. Even if it's been recently dwarfed by our new mental fortitude.
With stoic and the new trait.

>>37975523
Ok, that's cute, and the kind of aggressively out-of-the-blue comedic flirting I could imagine Mik doing.

>>37975864
The artifact isn't asking for memories, anon.
It's just doing what it's supposed to, cleansing all outside influences.

>>37975864
I think the more correct perspective is;
It takes rolling a nat 30 to give us a mental fortitude trait, in order to withstand the Entity.
It's more telling than the former presentation.

>>37975863
We have been talking about creating golems and we know they can be possessed. That would be something we could "offer" but you're probably right that meeting her would geive her another chance at taking over.

>>37975864
I'm not saying cost as in we're trading, but cost as in removing everything that is the result of outside influence

>>37975906
Thats what I am saying.
I doubt an inanimate object will make requests as silly as that.
And it's always been referred to as an artifact and not anything sentinel. So it would be silly for it to ask of such things.
It would be great to find out that You can use it on more than one person.

Honestly an artifact as seemingly strong as that one. Likely has a cool down for like a century/thousand years.
Or can only be used once per person their entire life. I want this to be true and use it on master. See what he would be like with out his addiction to opium and reduce his sanity back to 0. He would be back in his fucking prime basically

>>37976019
>implying it needs to be sentient
Ten bucks says it your memories. Theres no way it just removes insanity

>>37975864
>A FUCKING GOD IN THERE WITH US!
Not exactly, the Entity is a failed atempt to bring back the God of Earth.
If anything it should be called the "shadow of a god" just like the moon's nothing compared to the sun 'namsayin?

>>37975864
two thing its a girl, and second its not a god.

>>37975927
I wouldn't mind trying to make a deal with the next spirit we run into for more spirit knowledge.
Granted so long as it's not a shit spirit.
Like a really old spirit, along with anything we may need at the time.
I want to have a spirit connect a few dots for us. With this god. Things it may want, and I am just being honest here. The workings of the spirits and void creatures. Possibly the language of void creatures.
understanding ricky and his universe here we come.
>>37976095
anon at best if we're going to use your analogy.
The shadow is Jupiter. And we're earth.

>>37976083
I think you're on the ball with that idea.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36086434/#p36092168
Here's Varvar's notes on it. It sounds fairly devastating as far as artifacts go.

>>37975864
>Except theres ANOTHER GOD IN OUR MIND anon.
Not even close man.

>>37976135
http://pastebin.com/sijmZSSf
There's some relevant information on spirits and void creatures, if you needed it.

>>37976135
>The shadow is Jupiter. And we're earth.
You are seriously over estimating this thing. It only has as much power over us as we're willing to give it.

>>37976164

Its certainly a godlike entity, or the plane (but still quite dangerous) imitation of one. We should trend carefully with it and get rip of it as soon as possible by what ever means we can, artifact or not.

>>37976164
Except thats exactly what it is.
It is a god that was killed. hence much weaker.
Still more powerful than us.
Look at the cat. That cat isn't someone we could fuck with lightly. And he is some smuck to one of the leading factions.
This dead god, had artifacts made for IT.
things that revolved around IT. not it's master. so it's high as fuck on the chain.
If it's not a god.only because it was killedIt was easily an Elder.
>>37976190
yeah thats not enough for what I want to know about the lore.
Just saying. I am a HUGE Git gud faggot.
But this spirit lore.
I would be willing to sacrifice a lost meta for a lot of knowledge on spirits. And their past. at least a working knowledge of the current rankings there are now. and who is running shit and how.
Also best course of action when fighting spirits/void creatures

>>37976345
It's not a god because it doesn't have a divine core, and never did. It's just a failed resurrection attempt so calling it a god is false.

>>37976345
>Except thats exactly what it is.
Varvar said it fucking isn't. It's just a person who saw the dead body of a god and now thinks it's one.

>>37976330
You mean having to roll for not letting it take control, or asking the Stooges for help?
Reminder that The Entity could have curbstomped Papa Dragon's attempted mind invasion, and he was an ancient Dragon lich.
>>37976345
The Entity isn't Prthvi, you idiot. The Entity is the soul of a little girl who was used in the attempted revival of Prthvi, who was made incredibly powerful and turned mad.
Reminded that it was the Entity itself that created the Pa'vala, or at least the one who made it into the hellhole it is today, that's how powerful she was originally.

>>37976345
Oh, Right. Knew I forgot something. I've found something that suggests Silver has an effect on Void Entities and/or spirits.

>>36278777
Void Creatures, Vulnerability to Silver?: You turn the page again, and this time it depicts a figure standing. A creature of shadow charges from behind him, and his arm forms into a long silver blade. With a sweep of its arm, the shadow is cut down. More come at him, and over the course of several minutes it dances across thin air, slicing this way and that with metallic blades formed, as far as you can tell, from its very flesh. When it comes to stand once more at its origin point, it sits down and the blades vanish.

Might be a good thing to investigate.

>>37976417
To simplify it even further, the Entity is the reason the Hiacian empire collapsed. The Pa'vala used to be the Hiacian capital before being turned into a "Dune's highlights of The Zone."

>>37976345
The Entity is not a god.
It was just some random girl they tried to make her accend to godhood/have her become a vessel to the dead god by pumping her full of vys and a lot of other things most certainly, it failed and created the desert where the worms roams.

>>37976429
That sounds like a very stupid idea, anon.
Void creatures aren't vampires.

>>37976381
They are not composed of divine essence, but rather produce it.
SON YOU WAT.
>>37976417
Who said that I was talking about Prthvi?
I have no idea which god this maybe or is.
Where are you pulling this from? Cause it seems to me your asshole is pretty loose from all that reaching up there.

>>37976489
That's werewolves mate. And hey, it's a common theme in pretty much all the mythologies. Won't know if we don't try.

>>37976505
It sounds more like you're not really paying attention to anything at all, anon. Perhaps reread our investigations into these matters before forwarding your suppositions on them.

>>37976489
LOL, vampires.
>Look at this idiot.
You mean werewolves.
And if >>37976429
Was in varvar's notes or something it would be wise to investigate.

>>37976505
fuck off retard

>>37976505
Are you retarded? It was stated that The Entity is the result of a cult using a little girl to try and revive Prthvi, the dead god of Earth.

>>37976505
>Prthvi
It's the god of metal I'm sure, the one this other anon want is Dhatu.
And from where he pulled it off was from Shezade

>>37976505
I would try to argue with but you're an idiot thus not worth it.

>>37976577
Prthvi is Earth, (it literally means earth with one character removed.)

Dhatu is the many-faced god of Metal.

>>37976577
guess I mixed them, Dhatu is the metal one while Prthvi is the earth one

>>37976539
>>37976551
Yeah, I mean werewolves, but that's not in Varvar's notes, it's in the Metal Codex, and seems more like the dark figures are just generic enemies being portrayed, like how the hostile attempt at the mind was portrayed with a dark tendril.
Also, we don't know if it was silver, more likely just steel.
>>37976577
I am 100% sure it was Prthvi.
Dhatu is sleeping, Prthvi was killed by the Nature god.
At least try to follow the lore, guys.

>>37976577
Except the Sehzade and the metal Codex clearly states Prthvi was Earth and Dhatu metal.

34781395
Prthvi, Sezhade's Remarks: That... doesn't sound good at all. “Who was Prthvi?” The Varistha shakes his head pityingly. “A god most ancient, worshiped long before the Hiacian Empire united the disparate tribes of Samjan into a cohesive political entity. I only know him as the former God of Earth, Pani's closest ally and the lover of Srsti, the Banished Goddess.”

>>36277587
Mythology, God of Metal: The text itself is almost is interesting. It tells the story of the god Dhatu, how he was born concurrently to the other five Greater Deities; Pani, Surya, Prthvi, and She who is Banished. It recounts his domination of the other various gods of death, until he eventually came to be the sole god remaining dedicated to the concept.
You turn the page, and story continues. It recounts Dhatu's battle with Prthvi to claim the rights to the domain of Wealth. Eventually, Dhatu won out. Thus, when Surya was disemboweled and his entrails dried to weave the fabric of the world from the very thread of his being, Dhatu became the patron of all metals, while Prthvi became the patron of all stones.

>>37976567
I will concede that my arguments may be nil and void.
and rambles of a fucking idiot.
I you can show where it says that. If not.
>>37976615
then fuck off.

>>37976655
>>34781395
Prthvi, Sezhade's Remarks: That... doesn't sound good at all. “Who was Prthvi?” The Varistha shakes his head pityingly. “A god most ancient, worshiped long before the Hiacian Empire united the disparate tribes of Samjan into a cohesive political entity. I only know him as the former God of Earth, Pani's closest ally and the lover of Srsti, the Banished Goddess.” You have less than zero idea what on Earth he's talking about right now. “Though the god himself is dead, and has remained such since being betrayed by his jealous lover, a cult has always festered beneath the surface, hidden away in the darkest recesses of society. They reached the height of their power shortly after the Rhynian Empire fell and many of the members sacrificed themselves to bring about the return of their god. However, the ritual failed and instead their collective power was placed into the body of a young girl, driving her mad. The rampage that followed destroyed the Hiacian Empire.”

It's so nice having organized notes.

>>37976655
The thing is we don't have to spoon feed you why you're wrong, you should have gone through the effort to understand what you're talking about before extrapolating a half baked assumption if you actually want people to take stock it in.
It's unreasonable to expect everyone else to cover for your ignorance.

>>37976697
And thankfully some anons are very willing to do so regardless.

>instead their collective power was placed into the body of a young girl, driving her mad. The rampage that followed destroyed the Hiacian Empire.”

Wow, that sounds much more manageable, whew. Still bad. Not entirely catastrophic hopefully.

>>37976655
>go one arcihve.moe
>search text "Prthvi"
>search username "Soma"
>look through the 4 posts that come up
https://archive.moe/tg/search/text/prthvi/username/Soma/
Wow, that was so incredibly difficult, wasn't it?

>>37976748
More manageable than a real god, sure.
Not nearly manageable enough for Mik to handle though.

>>37976748
>The rampage that followed destroyed the Hiacian Empire.
>Not entirely catastrophic.
I mean, it's not literally the definition of catastrophic but it's certainly a catastrophe! Wait...

>>37975390
Uhh, boss? You still here? Or did'ja step out for classes?

>>37976748
>Still bad.
>>37976771
>Not nearly manageable enough for Mik to handle though.

It can't do anything while inside our mind. We are practical a god inside our mind now and this thing is trapped in it.

>>37976748
>not entirely catastrophic
>>catastrophic
adjective
1. of the nature of a catastrophe, or disastrous event; calamitous:
a catastrophic failure of the dam.
>>catastrophy
noun
1. a sudden and widespread disaster:
the catastrophe of war.
2. any misfortune, mishap, or failure; fiasco:
The play was so poor our whole evening was a catastrophe.
3. a final event or conclusion, usually an unfortunate one; a disastrous end:
the great catastrophe of the Old South at Appomattox.
I'd say all 3 of those definitions fit the creation of the Pa'vala.

>>37976805
see >>37975417
>Anyway, I gotta go to class so I'll be back in an hour or two. See yah soon, folks.

>>37976752
>34781395
>>37976706
>>37976697
I am a fucking idiot.
I may have missed that thread.
And I admit I fucked up.

Still a powerful thing in our mind.
It's batshit crazy, and we need to get it out of our mind asap.

So why in the fuck did we learn Create instead of 3-4 Metas?

>>37976969
What on earth are you talking about? We didn't learn the Create effect, you silly fool.

>>37976992
>>37976969
Stills baffles me anons don't want to bulk read metas, ever since soma allowed it to be a choice.

>>37976992
Alright, fail to learn it.

That was a terrible decision all around

>>37976969
because people are idiots.
>>37976992
he is saying that it makes little sense to try and go for something like create when we have more important things to focus on dip shit.

>>37976969
Because create is more useful to us.

>>37977017
Oh my, so hostile to literalism. Still, asking why after the matter is insightless, 'tis done.

>>37976888
>Still a powerful thing in our mind.
It can't do anything while inside our mind and doesn't have enough vys to hurt us.
>>37976992
Meta > Create.

>>37977017
He's making a joke about how we made a dumb decision and then failed it too.

>>37977051
>more usefull
>than Metas
kek

>>37977010
Mysterious Tome (Unread)
Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)
Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)
Metamagic Instructions: Delay (Unread)
I wouldn't be surprised if 1-2 of them we may have learned, and wasn't updated.
But fucking serious. Could be interesting to get the read on all of them.
>>37977051
Leave.
Do not look back.
Never come back.
Just leave.
>>37977068
Except if it rolls high enough it can make us make us take rash choices.
So yes, It can do something.

>>37977051
We're talking about
instead of doing that meditation we could have likely gotten 1-2 meta's out of the way.
Adding to our vys pool.
Which we need.
I for one am dying to be able to use our warlock armor 100% of the time.

>>37977111
>Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Delay (Unread)
That's 8 Vys right there and i know we can learn at least 3 at a time.

We just learned 2 and we now have new bonuses. As long as we start with the most complex and work our way down we have a fair shot of getting all 4.

>>37977151
My guess is 50 Vys will let us do that. Just a guess based on how the last couple times we used it it was easier.

>>37977151
I think he was joking.

Could it be posible to meditate on our on mind? Check how entrenched are the outside influences in our mind maybe try to weeken their hold on us in the short term and try to disloge them without the use of the artifact on the long term.

>>37977178
I doubt we can get through all 4 with out getting interrupted.

>>37977209
our mind is already better, since enchanting became harder for us.
We did spend too much time in the void physically though, since we became a bit tainted.

>>37977209
As far as we know there's no concept we can't meditate on for a deeper insight into it. Though for specific things like that it may carry a DC similar or slightly higher to the last time we meditated on our mind.

>>37977072
>>37977111
>Beam
Pretty fucking useless, just a a slightly different, less versatile form of ranged.
>Selective
Again, not very useful outside of rare circumstances or using it with AOE.
>AOE
Pretty useful, but we can already pretty much cast huge fireballs or freeze a room. Also, probably expensive vys-wise.
>Delay
Useful in some cases, though still not that useful.
Also, most of these metamagics are pretty much useful only in combat, something we haven't seen in probably over 30 threads.
As opposed to create which has plenty of utility uses, and especially useful in the Pa'vala.

>>37977211
Yeah that's the only thing that should stop us. And even then we have enough resistance to be able to dip the fuck outta there before shit goes down.

>>37977239
That wasn't even sort of related to void meditation.

We got the "corruption" that may or may not even be a thing from the cloak. At least that's the leading theory right now.

>>37977178
remember there is a mysterious tome.
so it could be 10 vys.
And yeah I agree. 50 should be the minimum for warlock armor to not get bad results.
Then we could wear it during all o our meditations and trivial shit.
I want to wear it while doing another battle meditation on metal.
After doing all of that.

>>37977250
Beam is also more powerful and offense-focused than ranged, though.

>>37977280
>That wasn't even sort of related to void meditation.
thats why i said physically anon.

>>37977250
That they gain us VYS alone. is useful.
So STFU and hop on the meta meditation train.
That they actually do something over that, is just a bonus for me.

>>37977282
The tome might even be worth more than 2 vys, if it contains multiple techniques.

>>37977250
I assume that at least beam will be extremely useful when fighting armored big creatures like those giant sand worms.

All of them will be useful because we gain max Vys and there is a good chance we can finally use the Warlock armor if we get just a bit more of it.

>>37977293
Yes, though I'd doubt we'd ever use it considering we probably used the blast meta once.

>>37977316
You do realize create also gives us vys, right?

>>37977250
Eight vys is still a significant gain.

>>37977209
Now I want a trippy as fuck sequence where we fight the entity in our mind with trench warfare and ww1 tech
soma pls give

>>37977068
Several times now it has try and has succeeded once in making us lash out in anger. That's very dangerous if you ask me.

>>37977316
You do realize that learning effects also gains us vys, right?

>>37977250
>>Beam
>Pretty fucking useless
Alright you're fucking stupid

>Selective
Usefull for AOE, Blast, and even Beam or Ranged if we wanna shoot through a teammate to hit an enemy.

Or what if an enemy is grappeling with profectus and we wanna kill the thing without hurting him? gonna need selective.

>AOE
useful as shit, more useful with selective

>Delay
Much more utility based than others, we probably wont use this all that much. Good for leaving traps an such.

Have we tried looking into that mirror without the cloak? We should try it with someone else too

Ded Soma?

>>37977250
also we have an idea of how they work.
I would like to read the 5 times together. next time we get a chance to read.
Should clear up quite a few things.
And having soma write up 5 meta's should make up one whole post which I wouldn't mind.
and gives us how they work. and how to use them. usually with an example.

>>37977328
Where the shit did you people get this 8 vys idea?

I doubt we can read 4 scrolls and actually meditate on a meta in the same update, let alone actually meditate on all of them.

>>37977327
Effects give us 1 vys per.
Meta's give 2 vys per.

Nobody is saying Create doesn't give Vys when it's learned, so I'm not sure why you're bothering to mention it at this juncture.

>>37977239

We are better but in no way are we safe or cure.

>>37977335
>lash out in anger
You mean the thing regular people do?

>>37977327
>>37977343
I just mention it over the effects because we gain more vys.

>>37977250
>Pretty fucking useless, just a a slightly different, less versatile form of ranged.
A more offensive version of range, that doesn't have delay, easier to hit targets as well.
>Again, not very useful outside of rare circumstances or using it with AOE.
Like you said works well with AOE, but also with our other spells.
>>AOE
>Pretty useful, but we can already pretty much cast huge fireballs or freeze a room. Also, probably expensive vys-wise.
Agreed
>Useful in some cases, though still not that useful.
Can be great with hidden actually.
>Also, most of these metamagics are pretty much useful only in combat, something we haven't seen in probably over 30 threads.
Good thing we are heading towards combat soon, and then a side quest with more combat, and than a trip through the death desert.

>>37977363
Read the pastebins in the OP. The ones inclined towards the mechanics of spell meditation are particularly useful.

>>37977383
Regular people don't crush a desk into splinters while bits of wood carve trenches into their head mate.

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>>37977331

>>37977327
>>37977343
Half as much and with a higher chance of failure.

So less than 50% the value as meditating on effects.

>>37977383
Are you serious?
I don't think you understand that it's not normal.
I work with "special" kids.
That is what they do.
Lashing out in anger is not normal anon.
You should get that checked out.

>>37977363
>>37977328
Actually its 12 vys if we read and meditate on all four.

>>37977409
Then you've never seen someone let off some real steam.

We shouldn't worry too much about the entity thanks to ring.

>>37977440
Oh shit, sorry about that. My mind completely fudged there.

>>37977412
>29
Nigga are you prepared for a 50 Vys Siege showing?

>>37977440
>>37977460
reading Metamagic scrolls doesn't give us Vys. Cause they're so short.

>>37977440
You mean 4 from reading meta scrolls? We don't get vys from that.

>>37977454
Maybe I'm in a place where people are more chill and less steamy, I have never seen anyone actually do that.

I saw an angry drunk plow a forklift into a fish truck and make a good attempt at tipping the it over though.

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>>37977454

>>37977454
>>37977383
Where the fuck do you live?
Are people really that barbaric elsewhere?

>>37977489
I broke my fist in a wall one time, there was stud where i decided the punch. I barely felt my hand until the next morning.

>>37977383

It wasn't natural or even our anger. While celebrating it wanted us to murder or hurt Crys, it made us throw a tantrum like a 6 year could after getting threaten by the spirit. Image it got us during the official un banishing ceremony and made us punch or try to kill the shad?

>>37977519
I've broken a few things in anger

>>37977531
>>37977539
Sounds pretty unhealthy. Ever get recommended to see a shrink?

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>>37977519
I'm not saying it's a common thing, but sometimes people get mad and instead of bottling it up or hurting someone they just smash some furniture of put a couple holes in the wall.

It's a nice stress reliever to just go off the handle.