>>37916042>>37916046>>37916033>>37916051>>37916062>>37916075You pet Icarus, then give him a big hug.He lets out a curious sound, then licks your face, whining in what you think is concern. Of course, your knowledge of whatever language he speaks is limited, so you can't say for certain.You tell Icarus to head back to his spot by the chickens, and lie down, looking up at the sky as you did you many afternoons before Raditz came and your entire life was changed. You resolve to find your parents soon, and take some time to think of what to say to them.Icarus waddles up behind you, lying down and propping your head up on his side as he curls his body around you. So, there you stay, taking a moment to cuddle with your dragon, and deciding what to do.>A. Go to sleep>B. Find your parents>C. Just stare at the sky>D. Something else
>>37916381>>B. Find your parents
>>37916381>D Go off into the wilderness and train, if you aren't strong enough, it was for NOTHING. IT CANT BE ALL FOR NOTHING.
>>37916381>>D. Find nappa. You remember he was a general.
>>37916381>>C. Just stare at the skylets rest for once
>>37916381>B. Find your parents
>>37916381>C. Just stare at the skyRemember what Future Trunks told you, contemplate what he might have gone through in his time
>>37916381>D. Something elseTry to come up a new technique. It'll get our mind off the pain but is also productive.
>>37916381>>A. Go to sleepsleep with the dragon.
>>37916381>C. Just stare at the sky
>>37916381>D. Something elseLeave, go somewhere alone, and let it all out, the anger, the sadness, every thing. We scream, we exhaust all of our energy,and we stay away from everyone tull morninf
>>37916381>C. Just stare at the skyWe need a little contact, we need a little time, then some parental wisdom
>>37916381>C>ANo training for the next few days. Let's be 8.
>>37916381>>C. Just stare at the sky>D. Introspect
And then Cooler appears out of nowhere and screws over Kaguya big time
>>37916543I think he's still a little ways off. Him killing Kaguya would be a bit surprising but considering his current mental state, not overly so.
>>37916447This, we need more original moves
>>37916003Goku isn't a genius, but he's got enough wisdom to understand when doing something for the greater good is needed. He probably also put together the idea that getting a massive power boost for virtually no actual lives lost is as beneficial as it can get. Gohan as we can see is more Lawful Good, while Goku is more Neutral Good.We can only hope this is the darkest we'll go. We did a pretty bad act, but we're obviously not beyond redemption.Reposted my thoughts since it'll probably be buried in the saged thread.
>>37916606There's no redemption needed. We did nothing wrong. NOTHING was hurt, besides their feelings. They'll get over it. It hurts now, because the experience is fresh, but once we all calm down and realize that IT WAS FAKE, everyone will be fine.
>>37916447I was the one who said to train, so im switching to make a new move.
>>37916606Yes, I think that the team will remain, we will stand together. But whatever they will trust us, is an entirely different matter
>>37916381D. New move.We gotta channel all this feeling into something good.
>>37916600We will make a shining dodon-ray ki sword from our finger.It will contain our love, our anger and all of our sorrow.
>>37916662Imagine not one but several of your loved ones torn from you and executed while you watch, prevented from acting by your best friend whom you looked at as a hero.Real or not that is bound to leave scars.
>>37916662I doubt it will be that easy. Gohan probably already put together it was fake from the way Goku was acting. We still put him through the emotional wringer though. It shouldn't be the end of the world or anything though, kids make mistakes and we made a big one.On the positive side maybe its better that Gohan doesn't put Kaguya on a pedestal.
We fucked up. So so badly. We broke Gohan's heart.
>>37916381>D. Come up with a new technique
>>37916507>>37916500>>37916484>>37916464>>37916459>>37916446>>37916418You stay this way for a while, staring up into the sky, watching the clouds slowly roll by. Icarus stays with you, providing warmth and giving an occasional encouraging lick or nuzzle, just trying to comfort you as best he can. It's nice to know what at least one friend still likes you. Although, besides Goku and Gohan, nobody knows what happened.You think about how everyone would react. Yamcha would probably be shocked and disapprove wholeheartedly, Tien would probably disapprove, but understand. Piccolo would probably accept it as necessary, Chiaotzu would be shocked and appalled, as would Krillin. Haya would probably kick your butt for it, and with the rate she's improving, she should be able to before long. Billy would probably just think it was cool that Goku and Gohan are Super Saiyans now, and Kazuma, well, you're not entirely sure what he would say.Your eyes grow heavy, and your body feels more and more exhausted. It's certainly been an emotionally draining day, but, you're afraid of what sleep could bring. After all, you've been having nightmares even without what happened today, you doubt any sleep will be restful at this point.>A. Sleep>B. Find your parents>C. Go to your room and sleep>D. Keep staring at the sky>E. Something else
>>37916798Both him and Kaguya will be okay. It'll take time for sure though. I say we continue to train with Nappa and friends to keep our mind off of it and make some progress.
>>37916738At first, yeah, of course. But then you realize it wasn't real and you get over it.It's almost exactly like a particularly horrid nightmare. It's awful, it messes you up for hours, but it wasn't real and you get over it quickly.
>>37916825>>B. Find your parents
>>37916825>>D. Keep staring at the sky
>>37916825>E Come up with a new move
>>37916825>E. Something elsePractice the Destructo Fist
>>37916825>C. Go to your room and sleepWe deserve the nightmares
>>37916825>>E. Something elsefly somewhere and don't look back
>>37916825>E. Something elseGo train with Hercule
>>37916825>>E train in some way or come up with a new move
>>37916825>C. Go to your room and sleep
>>37916887Time to relieve some tension from this day
>>37916887It's the middle of the night. Sleep, then Hercule.
>>37916887We are in an emotional distress, no patience for a vain idiot now
>>37916838Unfortunately its the fact that we purposely put gohan through the worst nightmare anyone could ask for (in the dbz universe) is why its so bad.We had a damn good cause, the survival of thousands, but it hurts like hell to do that or live through that, and gohan has a dragonball mentality of "Everything will always be fine because of my dad and the dragonballs" (in this case KAGUYA and the dragonballs) so its worse for gohan because it seemed unnecessary to him.
>>37916381I was thinking about the future of the Alt Universe where Kaguya and Bulma were the only ones to survive the trip back from Namek.Androids win, but Bulma can't complete her time machine without anyone's help. Cell absorbs Androids, and views Earth as his personal playground. Carrying the cells of enough emperors and protectors, Cell becomes Earth's new guardian. Purely for selfish reasons to keep Earth as his slaves and cattle, but nonetheless it's HIS slaves and cattle and he'd rather have a healthy population of them than have them die out.Likely releases Buu anyway because Muh Saiyan Pride, and I honestly can't figure out who'd win Cell (with Kaguya's cells) vs. Buu.
>>37916825>Go somewhere else and practice/invent a move
>>37916825>It's nice to know what at least one friend still likes you.
>>37916865Only after we dropped dead from exhaustion of practice in the middle of nowhere
>>37916887Will it even help. He might understand us hurting our friend both mentally and emotionally, but I doubt he could understand what we are going through.
>>37917004If buu could not kill cell or have the intuition to use an overpowered energy attack to easily kill cell (we saw he mainly used physical attacks in fat buu form) then cell might win by zenkai/limit boost into infinity. Also didn't cell decide to kill the universe? Or would that not happen in this timeline.
>>37917124He'd have already won so we wouldn't really see a need. Blowing up the universe is more of a "if I can't win" sort of bullshit.
>>37917111I think we have some serious work to do; I'd like to be strongest againOther than that, we've have already gone full "do what has to be done" when we killed Turles. All we can do is be humble and attempt to earn forgiveness
>>37917176When cell came back super-perfect he stated he realised he was made for 'much more' than defeating earth, that he would become the universe's END!!! And all that drama.
>>37916852>>37916865>>37916874>>37916914>>37916957You stare at the sky for a while longer, feeling yourself grow more and more weary. You need sleep, and decide to get it in your own bed rather than outside.Leaving a now sleeping Icarus where he is, you get up and go into the house. You don't see your parents, so you figure they're working. Your mom will probably be back to make dinner soon. You make your way upstairs , going to your room and climbing into bed, slipping under the covers and closing your eyes. Tired and drained as you are, sleep finds you quickly.You find yourself back on planet Namek, standing at the edge of a crater. Vegeta's corpse lies within it, and Goku's lies nearby. You see no sign of Piccolo, Krillin, or Gohan, but you do sense a familiar power nearby.Frieza stares down at you from a nearby rock formation, though not in his final form as you had expected. The alien tyrant is in his base form, still wearing his armor and scouter, and giving you a curious look."Hmm, I came expecting to engage in a slaughter, yet it appears I've arrived a bit too late," he observes. "An unexpected situation, and one that raises some questions I would very much like answered. Tell me, who are you, and for what reason did you slaughter these fools? What have they done to earn your ire?">A. Tell Frieza to stop pretending>B. Ask why he's in his base form>C. Attack>D. Something else
>>37917176No he told Goku that once he finished with the cell games if he wasn't beaten he'd blow up the planet and then it was inferred that he'd probably do that to whatever other planets he found on his merry way through space.
>>37917206I agree with this line of thought and course of action completely. Time to make a ki blade and push ourselves to be the strongest.
>>37917221>>B. Ask why he's in his base form
>>37917221>A. Tell Frieza to stop pretendingHey, I didn't kill these guys, YOU did it.(denial)
>>37917221>D. "I wanted them to get stronger and didn't see that I was hurting them because I was afraid."
>>37917221>>A. Tell Frieza to stop pretending"I'm in little mood for games you worthless piece of space trash." Gohan did teach us some stuff.
>>37917221>D What do you mean? *turn around*
>>37917221>A. Tell Frieza to stop pretending>B. Ask why he's in his base form>D. Something else"Lets get this nightmare over with already"
>>37917221>D. Something elseSit down."I tried to help them. I have failed"
>>37917221>B. Ask why he's in his base formWe always fight our nightmares. maybe we should talk? For once?
>>37917221>BThen ask him why he does what he does. Let's try to have an actual conversation with him.
>>37917221>A. Tell Frieza to stop pretending>B. Ask why he's in his base form>D. Something else"What are you talking about, didn't you kill the..?!"then kaguya stares at his hands covered with our friends blood
Man I hope this thread doesn't end during or right after the dream sequence. It's been a depressing enough ride as is.
>>37917221>DI hurt them so they could get stronger. They'll get better, and they'll understand.
>>37917221A and B
>>37917222It was always my headcannon that if cell won, he wouldn't end up destroying earth and instead began trying to become perfect at every hobby, skill, or vocation.He trains under master chefs for months.He goes to Harvard, Princeton, and Yale.He learns every instrument.After that, he stars in a couple beer commercials.
>>37917276Not how nightmares work.
>>37917222He did decide to blow up every planet after getting IT.Just got back from work, dear lord, them feels man, them fucking feels.
>>37917277We succeeded in every way we intended to.
>B. Ask why he's in his base formOkay enough of the same nightmares. Violence obviously doesn't resolves themI'm with >>37917279 on our new approach
>>37917370"Truly......Budweiser is the PERFECT beer!""Uh Mr. "Cell" sir i don't-AUUUUGHH"*Blammed**Cell laughs heartily while the commercial is still playing*
>>37917221"No I didn't kill them" Kaguya shoutedFreeza's scouter said "No, Kaguya. You are the killer"And then Kaguya was a villain
>>37917434To be fair this nightmare is a little different than normal.
>>37917468One more reason to take a different approach
>>37917255>>37917262>>37917269>>37917276>>37917279>>37917297>>37917322>>37917323>>37917363"Stop pretending!" you yell at him.He frowns. "Child, you would be well advised to watch your tone and not make demands of me. I assume you are unaware of who I am, so I will educate you. I do encourage you to pay close attention, as this is the only warning you will receive. I am Lord Frieza, ruler of much of the known universe. And I suggest you answer my question.""But...didn't you kill them?" you ask."I had planned to do so, but it seems you, or someone else beat me to it," he responds. "I assumed you were responsible, but you seem highly confused."He activates his scouter, glancing around the area."Well, the only other power level on this rock appears to be that unconscious child over there," Frieza says, pointing to a spot behind you.You turn around, finding yourself unconscious on the ground near the crater. You look a bit smaller, but are otherwise identical."Hmm, the resemblance is uncanny," Frieza comments. "A twin, perhaps?"Your confusion grows. "Why are you in your base form?" you ask."Well, that's curious," he replies. "How did you know that I possessed the ability to transform?">A. Tell him you've just heard things>B. Say you've met him before>C. Say you've fought him before>D. Go to the unconscious you>E. Something else
>>37917221>D. Something elseLucid dream.We had alot of dreams with freeza in it, might aswell go ahead and do it.
>>37917536>A>DTalk while we walk.
>>37917536>A. Tell him you've just heard things>D. Go to the unconscious you
>>37917536>D. Go to the unconscious you>C. Say you've fought him before
>>37917536>B. Say you've met him before
>>37917370After that, he decides he feels lonely and creates the PERFECT partner for himself.
>>37917536>C. Say you've fought him beforeI protected all these dead guys here from you!... didn't I?
>>37917536>D. Go to the unconscious you
>>37917536>>A. Tell him you've just heard thingsis this our purgatory?
>>37917568Cell's already female, bro. He makes eggs and children.The children however are drones and unable to reproduce on their own, I think.
>>37917536A and DI know who you are.
>>37917536>>B. Say you've met him before>D. Go to the unconscious you
>>37917536>B. Say you've met him before"In fact we met so many times that I am loosing count"if he has doubts, recite facts about him that average people wouldn't know>>37917568Then they both won't rest until they achieved the PERFECT marriage.
>>37917603Yeah but that picture is the male version he created. Cell is not bound by your imperfect gender perceptions.
>>37917536>ADo not go to young us. It will only make things worse.
>>37917622Power level in 2nd form? 1 million.Power level in 3rd form? about 2 million.Power level at 5% of max power, which you seem to like using for some reason? 6 million.Max power level? 120 million.Relationship with your father: AmicableRelationship with your brother: RockySubordinates killed today: over 20, but under 100
>>37917625You know what? This makes sense.Cell essentially giving himself a ⌠Stand⌡ that he can reproduce with.
>>37917622In the process they create the perfect reality show and the perfect sitcom simultaneously.
>>37917557>>37917558>>37917562>>37917585>>37917596>>37917606>>37917609"I've heard things about you," you say, approaching the unconscious version of yourself, staring down at him."I see, my transformations are not common knowledge, child," Frieza comments, rising into the air and landing behind you, slowly approaching and staring down at the unconscious body. "Whoever told you must have been well informed. I am curious, but more so about this unconscious child. He seems to be even younger than you, yet, if you are not responsible for what has occurred here, I suppose it must have been him."Frieza walks around the body, a curious expression on his face. "It seems strange for one so young, younger even than you, to be capable of something like this. In addition to the somewhat impressive power level it would take to vanquish someone such as Vegeta, few races instill the psychological ability to perform such actions at such a young age."The younger you stirs, his eyes shooting open. You and Frieza watch as he leaps to his feet, glancing around."No..." he whispers as his eyes come to Goku's body. "Goku, no!""Goku, so you did know the people who died here," Frieza infers.The young you spins around, eyes widening."You must be Freezer!" he shouts. "Did you do this to my friends?">A. Tell him that Frieza did it>B. Say that you did it>C. Stay silent>D. Something else
>>37917755>C. Stay silent
>>37917755>B. Say that you did it
>>37917755>>B. Say that you did itwe have to come clean.
>>37917755>>D. Something else*Shrug*"Pendulum Room."Knock him out again.
>>37917755>B. Say that you did itTime to at least atone a bit
>>37917755>>B. Say that you did itWe are going to spawn some sort of evil magical doppelganger at this rate, fuck.
>>37917755BAt least I think I did, I'm not entirely sure.
>>37917778>>37917780>>37917783>>37917795>>37917804>>37917816>>37917825"It was me," you tell him.Younger Kaguya turns to face you, rage on his face that quickly gives way to confusion as he stares at you."W-who are you?" he asks."Near-identical appearance, similar voices, it seems likely you two are related, though you also appear to have never met," Frieza comments. "Fascinating. And you confess to being behind the slaughter that took place here? Then I return to my earlier question. What did these people do to earn your ire?""Why did you kill my friends? Who are you?" Young Kaguya asks, trembling with rage.>A. Tell him you're him>B. Tell Frieza they did nothing to anger you>C. Something else
>>37917869>>A. Tell him you're him>>B. Tell Frieza they did nothing to anger you
>>37917869>C. I wanted to make them stronger. I was afraid
>>37917869>A. Tell him you're himPendulum Room, Gohan and Goku needed to see this. They'll hate me for it but it was the only way for them to achieve Super Saiyan without someone dying in real time.
>>37917869A and BI'm you from the future, and I did something terrible to try and protect it.
>>37917869>B. Tell Frieza they did nothing to anger youI just killed them because I thought the emotional damage of seeing them dead would be useful.>A. Tell him you're him
>>37917869>A. Tell him you're him>B. Tell Frieza they did nothing to anger you>C. Something else"They needed to get stronger, it was one of the few options available"
>>37917869>>A. Tell him you're him
>>37917869>C. Something elseIt was not my ire that caused my demise, it was concern. My assumption that everything has to be done by me, and every responsibility falls within my jurisdiction They were my friend, an my comrades.Let this be a lesson to you.
>>37917897>>37917903>>37917907>>37917908>>37917917>>37917929"I'm you," you tell Kaguya."What?" he asks."Is that right?" Frieza asks as well. "Though the two of you share similar appearances, you appear to be entirely separate individuals.""Look, these people did nothing to anger me," you tell Frieza."Then why did you kill them?" young Kaguya demands."I wanted to make Goku and Gohan stronger," you say. "I was afraid.""Goku's dead!" young Kaguya shouts."No, I used the Pendulum Room, I thought the shock and pain of seeing this would make them stronger," you explain. "Wait, you made Gohan watch his dad die?" young you demands. "How could you? Now I know you're lying about being me! I would never do that! Not in a million years!">A. Point out that it wasn't real>B. Say that it worked>C. Assure him that you are him>D. Something else
>>37917869>A. Tell him you're him>C. Pendulum room Question mark?
>>37917997>>C. Assure him that you are him"You. Are. Naive."
>>37917997>A. Point out that it wasn't realThis is the biggest point of contention between anons I think so best to say it and see the response
>>37917869>C. Kill him
>>37917997>>B. Say that it workedbecous it was necessary to keep them alive.
>>37917997>C. Assure him that you are him>B. Say that it worked>D. Tell Frieza that he's in ... a vision of the past, or equivalent.
>>37917997>A. Point out that it wasn't real>B. Say that it worked>C. Assure him that you are him
>>37917997>>C. Assure him that you are himIt's a shame we didn't catch Frieza off balance like this when we actually met him. Confused Frieza trying to make sense of our insane nightmare is amusing.
>>37917997>B. Say that it workedIt achieved the desired effect. I know I had no right, but only history can be the judge if this was what had to be done or not
>>37917997>>A. Point out that it wasn't real>B. Say that it worked>C. Assure him that you are himI'm not proud of it, at all. But it worked. There are worse things than Freiza coming to Earth in my time. They make him look weak. They'll kill everyone without fail unless we can stop them. I was scared I would not be up to the task.
>>37918056>addition"Look. look around. See them? now add your parents to them! and the whole population of earth. I am not proud of what I did, but I will not renounce it
>>37917997>C. Assure him that you are him>>37918017say this
>>37917997>A>BYoung us won't care, but current us should. It's true.
>>37917997B, C and we know of a threat greater than Frieza, a threat that wiped out everyone. Androids are coming to attack Earth in my timeline and a guy from the future told us that they killed everyone. They killed Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta, Tien, Krillin, Chaiotzu, and Yamcha. I don't know why but he didn't mention me, us, whatever. Maybe we died before then, or maybe we never fought alongside our friends where he came from. I just know that if he is right about this threat, a threat he couldn't beat as a Super Saiyan, we need all the help we can get to protect everyone. I'm not sure I did the right thing, but I saw it as being the only option. I just hope it was enough, and that I can forgive myself for doing it.
>>37918122Nah I'm fine with renouncing our methods. There were probably better ways to draw out that power that didn't involve the route we took. Making sure Gohan and Goku were ready for it before hand at the least is one of them.
>>37917997>A. Point out that it wasn't real
>>37918149Agreed. We destroyed whatever innocence Gohan had
>>37918174good, that shit hurt them alot in the series
>>37918149>>37918174Well I agree that in the future we need to be less extreme with our methods, but as I specified it in the post before that, only history can judge if what we did was necessary or not
>>37917997>C. Assure him that you are him>D. Something else"That's your future, other me. You become the sort of person who does what he has to for others to live... even if he hates it."
>>37918192No. There is no deed too harsh to protect our world, and the innocents in it. If we must do things that make us the villain in order to protect our world, our friends, and our parents, so be it.We'll be DBZs version of The Boss.
>>37918251I don't think Kami, Olibu, or our parents would agree with that.
>>37918251Let's not go full prince of all edgelords m8. In combat we can be ruthless sure. But after this, nah man, we'll let others set their own pace.
>>37918287We're the legendary super edgelord.We got a Fedora and it's got SPIKES.On the INSIDE.
>>37918251We let fear guide our actions. Not unlike a certain galactic tyrant who destroyed the Saiyans.
There are some lines that we shouldn't cross, and I think what we just did to Goku and Gohan was crossing that line. What's the saying, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions?" If we continue down this path we're gonna end up mentally fucked and possibly even be forced to fight our own friends.We have to show strength in not doing certain things "for the greater good," because we are a Super Human, we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard and higher morals.Personally, I think we should absolve to never cross the line again.
At some point if Vegeta is still around we need to talk to him about what we heard and saw. We should apologize to him for how we had been a dick to him. In character we just assumed he was a giant asshole who did what he did for fun, not with a purpose.
I think we need to cut some slack for our pas self here. This poor guy just woke up, and sees the lifeless bodies of his friends scattered around him, with a an older version himself in front of him, claiming he killed them. Let's try to explain things first, and ask for his calmer input
The simple fact is we went edgy in DBZ. A series where the edge tends to grow at the END of arcs and we did it in what is essentially filler territory. We're also being proactive while DBZ's moral compass is very reactive. We caused suffering with the excuse that we were preventing more, but this is a world where death is unreasonably cheap.I don't think we should cross that line again.
>>37918325Knowing Vegeta, he might even get more super pissed that we saw him (even a hypothetical him) bare his soul in a very vulnerable way to anyone.
>>37918251This is the path kaguya must go down to become the emperor
>>37917997>D Snap>THERE ARE WORSE THINGS OUT THERE. WORSE. FIRST, FIRST IT WAS RADITZ. THEN THE SAIYANS AND THEN THE GINYUS. AND THEN FRIEZA, BUT AND IT DOESN'T. STOP. ANDROIDS ARE COMING, WHO ARE BEYOND ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THEY'LL KILL US. ALL OF US. IF I DON'T MAKE GOKU AND GOHAN STRONG ENOUGH. THEY'LL. ALL. DIE.
Wow this not what I wanted to see when I find DBZ quest. Such feels
>>37918268No, vegeta was bad guy turned good.We'll be good boy turned ruthless self hating badass.>>37918276They're not the ones that have to save the world. Let them sleep peaceably in their beds, while we stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
>>37918366We started off alright, but then some of us got an idea in our head we wouldn't turn away from no matter what and here we are.>>37918375Please the last thing DBZ needs is a character that wallows in their own angst while having a martyr complex.
I think the question at this point is clearDo we strive to redeem ourselves when the time comes, and become the hero we originally strived to be? Or do we go down a path that eventually ends in us becoming the ultimate villain?I'm not sure
>>37918366Right? I excepted heroic acts that save the day, and some cheesy one-liners. Not existential crysis on good or bad, unnecessary vs necessary use of violence, and weighing a world on our shoulders.Best quest ever
>>37918398Yes to #1, no to #2.
>>37918017>>37918021>>37918025>>37918033>>37918042>>37918045>>37918056>>37918057>>37918122>>37918133>>37918144>>37918145>>37918150>>37918215"None of this is real," you tell him."Well it feels real to me!" young Kaguya retorts. "I've been in the room! Any pain is real, and watching friends die is terrible even if it is fake!""Well, it worked," you tell him. "I'm not proud of it at all, but it worked. There's something worse than Frieza coming, and I was scared we wouldn't be strong enough to face it."You expect Frieza to comment, but the alien tyrant has vanished, leaving you and your past self to argue it out."There's always another way!" young you insists. "Train for them! Like me and the others did for the Saiyans, and like Goku and me did for Freezer! Then you can beat whatever's coming!""You are naïve," you tell him bitterly."Well that's better than what you are," he replies in anger.>A. Tell him he's right>B. Tell him he's wrong>C. Something else
>>37918398We don't need to become a villain to do what needs to be done to protect the world.A knight in shining armor has never had his mettle truly tested.
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's right
>>37918436>C. "And just what am I?"Because Kaguya doesn't seem to know really.That said though>A. Tell him he's right
>>37918436>C. Something elseYou are right. You ARE right. Thank you, this is a very valuable lesson
>>37918436>>B. Tell him he's wrongIf it means that my friends survive then I will do what is necessary, no matter the cost.
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's rightWe fucked up man. So bad.
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's rightKid if you are a me from somewhere else. Don't be me. It seriously stinks.
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrong>C. Something else"If someone from the future came and told you all your friends died one by one from a threat that you weren't there to prevent, would you still think such naive thoughts!?"
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's right"You're right.... I made a mistake, and let fear of the unknown influence my actions. Never again."
>>37918448That's actually a good quote, I'll have to remember that one
>>37918436B.) Tell him he is wrong. He is hurting his friends. Holding them back. He can't save everyone. Not alone.Our mercy cost our friends their lives. We will not make that mistake again.
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrong"i rather them hate me and them be alive, than them love me and be dead
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's rightWe can be better than the desperate person we've become. We can be a good boy again.
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrongDon't want to pull another lie, like we did when we agreeded with Goku about killing our foes. Kaguya has to get all this negativity out while he can.
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's rightFear and desperation drove us to do this pretty horrible thing. We didn't have the faith in them that Kami told us to have, so we tried to game the SSJ system to get them stronger faster.
>>37918525I stole it from an image macro I saw on here.
>>37918538That ship may have sailed anon but perhaps we can become a good man.
>>37918538Pls stop saying "good boy" it makes having morals looking like being a huge faggott
>>37918476I think Kaguya knows what he is, he just forgot what it means.He's a hero, and heroes don't do shit like we just did.
>>37918556That's actually a good line.
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrongIf you're right, then prove it
>>37918538At what cost.Who would you sacrifice to keep our hands from getting bloodier?Goku? Nappa?...Gohan?
>>37918448>A knight in shining armor has never had his mettle truly tested.How do you figure? Have you tried being a shining beacon in the face of everything? It's arguably a far greater test than allowing yourself to slip down to whatever fight waits below, like so many do.
>>37918538No one can stay a boy forever
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrong>C. Something else"At least my friends would be alive to hate me for it, instead of loving me and being corpses!"
>>37918436>B. Tell him he's wrongRemember Chaotzu?
>>37918448Or he's really high level and found a new suit of awesome armor that happens to be shiny.People LOVE making ancient and powerful artifacts look snazzy. You're already investing so much power into making it powerful, why not look good while using it?
>>37918599That's easy to say from an armchair.
>>37918538That ship has sailed anon.Once we know we want to go back to being a good boy( a kid) that is when we'll know that we are now an adult.
>>37918632Say that on my subreddit not on 4chan fucker and we'll see what happens
>>37918436You know DRALO I think you have enough players here that this first to 5 thing isn't going to work anymore. Here we having a defining character moment and I don't think that it should be based on which option got to 5 first. You have 30+ people here now.
>>37918658Maybe this time Kaguya... Doesnt know what to do, or say, or think.
>>37918436>A. Tell him he's right>B. Tell him he's wrong>C. Something elseTears stream down Kaguya's face as he's telling all this to his past self."You're right that I can train for them, but you're also wrong because that they should not rely on me to always save the day. I wanted to secure their future, so that they can defend for themselves. Each time I fought people like Vegeta, Freezer, and King Cold, while it was true I beat them, I wasn't able to completely overpower them. It was a struggle each and every time. He drops to his knees with his face looking up to the skies with a sad look on his face."Vegeta, I needed the help from my friends and even then it was a pure struggle. Freezer, I would've died if I didn't kill him before he went full power. King Cold, I was at the end of my ropes and once again needed the help of my friends to stop him. With three of my friends able to go Super Saiyan though, they've finally broken their limits and have become as strong as me, stronger even. We'll finally have a chance to be properly prepared for future dangers."Take as much or little as you want from this, Dralo.
>>37918436I'm scared that training won't be enough. They had hit a wall, and weren't getting stronger. I couldn't risk them, everyone dying. We weren't strong enough to save Yamcha and Tien from Vegeta. We couldn't save Chiaotzu from the Ginyus. We weren't strong enough to defeat Frieza, and I only got strong enough because he toyed with Vegeta and me. Then he came to Earth and it was a struggle to beat him there. His dad came with him and I wasn't strong enough to beat him. I've NEVER been strong enough to handle the threat when it appeared, what makes you think this time would be any different! At least this if I'm not strong enough, MAYBE! THEY! ARE! Was it the right thing to do? I'm not sure, but at least it gives them and the rest of us a chance. I'm scared I won't be able to protect my friends, I've never been able to. Even after beating Frieza when I was stronger than everyone else my friends died because of the Ginyus. I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't happen again. I couldn't live with myself if I can't help them again. I'm not sure I can live with what I've done, but I'll have to try.
>>37918658no there's only you and me
>>37918726We are both the same person, even if sometimes parts of me refuse to admit it.
>>37918748But which one of you is Drawfriend?
>>37918461>>37918476>>37918487>>37918489>>37918478>>37918501>>37918506>>37918538>>37918554"You're right," you tell him. And, you mean it. While some parts of you continue to justify your actions, you know deep down that you did something terrible, and that you don't want to do so again. Yes, your intentions were good, but good intentions only count for so much."What?" he asks."You're right," you repeat. "I made a mistake, and let fear make me do terrible things. Never again. I can be better than the desperate person I've become."The younger you smiles, and, as you watch Goku and Vegeta rise, looking to be in perfect health. Goku smiles and waves at you as Vegeta flies off in a huff. Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin reappear, the latter two rushing to you and grinning ear to ear, while Piccolo stands back and gives you a nod.The younger you has vanished, all that's left is the Kaguya you are now, and all there will be in the future is the person you choose to be. What you said to the past you was true, you can become different from the desperate person you've become, you can go back to the old ways of pushing yourself beyond your limits and helping your friends to do the same, so you can stand against the darkness side by side. Of course, you know doing so carries risk. And it's a risk you have to decide if you're willing to take. But you've done it before, and with friends at your side, you've overcome impossible odds and done amazing things.If you want to, you can do it again.>That's it for tonight guysI have a twitter now, I will try to post on it when there will be a thread @qmdraloNext update will be Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday nightI'll answer questions for a little while
>>37918771Draw friend is a force of nature.
>>37918771You are. Stop samefagging.
>>37918775What would Vegeta say about the actions we took in turning our friends SSJ?
>>37918775So how high are the chances thatKaguya will be afflicted by the heart disease that Goku has
>>37918791He'd see that as pragmatic and intelligent, while thinking that Goku and Gohan being so emotionally attached to the others is foolish.
>>37918775How badly did we hurt Gohan? Cause while this affirmation of self is nice, that bridge is still welll burned.
>>37918775>>37918820How badly did we fuck up our friendship with Gohan and how long will it take before he realizes why we did it. Is forgiveness possible without self sacrifice.
>>37918820How fucked is our friendship with Gohan?
>>37918820Will Kaguya ever get the ability to eat like a saiyan?
>>37918775Turn off first to 5, you have too many people for it.
>>37918775Thanks for running and thanks for getting a twitter Dralo.
>>37918791He'd be grudgingly respectful that we were willing to go through anything necessary to see that we protected those we held dear.It wasn't fear that motivated us. It was duty. We owed it to Goku and Gohan to give back the strength we robbed them of. Now we can get strong together, and defend our home, friends, and loved ones.
>>37918775I kind of feel like I'm almost on the edge of tearsCan we just sacrifice our life to save Gohan right now please?
>>37918843How does more people worsen that, out of curiosity?
>>37918852It is our duty to live on. Any fool can die for something, a hero must live for it.
>>37918775How did the training with Nappa and our friends go and how worried was Kazuma
>>37918818Slim to none.>>37918842Possibly>>37918844Thanks for playing, anon>>37918852Not yet, anon>>37918837>>37918832>>37918829You traumatized Gohan, badly. It really hurt him to watch several of his friends and loved ones die while his friend sat there and did nothing, even stopping him from helping. You can fix things, but it will take time.
>>379188715 fast people can overwhelm 20 slightly less fast people.
>>37918896Is Vegeta using our gravity machine that we asked Bulma's dad to build?
>>37918871Look at the last vote, you have a lot of people coming in late with B votes and decent C write ins. But all those got waved away cause A got to 5 first.
>>37918894They were all worried, but Kazuma is very worried about both you and Gohan. He'll probably try to get you to talk about what happened.>>37918902But making the number higher leaves more time for sameposting if the majority of posters are slow with their responses. Besides, even first to five sometimes takes a while to get the required number of votes.>>37918913It's not finished yet
>>37918917I was one of the C write ins but I'm honestly glad A won out.
>>37918896So what would Gohan's reaction be to our Future Trunks telling Kaguya how we died, would it ease some of the tension between us?
>>37918896what chance do gohan,Goku,Nappa and eventually Vegeta have against the androids in their SSJ form now?
>>37918875Is there a better way to express one's compassion than by dieing for a friend?
>>37918871Write ins are kind of fucked by the fact that votes can happen fast now.As >>37918917 said. We had a bunch of Bs and write ins come in after the five As.
>>37918946Considering this is DBZ and death is cheap? Yes.
>>37918937Future Trunks, as you recall, has no idea who you are. If you mean the one from the threads we did a while back, it might.>>37918938The Androids in this timeline are significantly more powerful than canon, though, at this rate, 19 and 20 should be manageable.
>>37918946I think we need to give Gohan some space. He needs some time to heal, and showing up while that's still going on is not going to help any. He'll also need to think and introspect real hard on this turn of events and come to his own conclusion when the wound isn't so fresh.
>>37918933For huge character changing moments I just think that first past the post is a bad system.If 9 people want A and 10 people want B within just a couple minutes, why not combine them or something?
>>37918984Now that they are SSJz, will their powerlevels actually go up from training now?
>>37918946Compassion is overrated. Show them your dedication by living for them instead.
>>37918998Yes, but slowly, Saiyans seem to hit a max base power over time, which is why they keep needing new transformations
Time for Kaguya to have shenanigans with Hercule in the next thread, since we have to give Gohan some space for awhile.
>>37919016How is our mental health. I would assume that the ending has given us a good idea of it being repaired but how much more shit can it take.
>>37919025This is a very good idea.
>>37918984Is Cooler going to be anything more than a nuisance with 3 Super Saiyans and us hanging around. Would it be possible to turn him good?
>>37918989You make a good point.There will be a time when we are capable of making amends with our friend, but it is not now.>>37919012That is also a good point as well.If you truly care for someone, then you should do everything you can for them regardless if they hate you or not.
>>37919044Just because we did it with Nappa doesn't mean it'll always work. I think Cooler is too much of a prick to redeem.
>>37919044I don't think that we'll be able to recruit Cooler. The movie seems to make him out as more dutiful and pragmatic than Frieza, but he's still an intergalactic tyrant who has probably killed billions of people.
>>37919025Sword training soon, we could run around erf and help people
>>37919044I think one of Cooler's biggest advantages is that he can control his power output and sneak up on us (since he's rocking in his true form and Goku doesn't notice him until he's pointed out).If he caught Kaguya out in da woods or something the fight could be all but over by the time anyone arrived to help. If he fought with Goku, Nappa and Gohan around let alone Kaguya then yeah he's probably fucked.
I like how DRALO is avoiding the voting system complaints.
>>37918933Hhey Darlo this is a realy good questThank you for running it
Stuff between now and Cooler:> Hang out with Mr Satan, teach him how to fly> Learn to use our sword> Develop new ki moves> Train with Yamcha and Tien; don't let them fade away like in canon.
>>37919111Nappa commented about blowing up Arlia's moon as well being a nice touch when Vegeta blew up the planet.
>>37918933But I can game first to 5 just like I did when it was first to 3. Also if I am putting myself out there I have totally samefagged an extra vote before someone got first to 5.
>>37919233For Nappa, it was a memorable occasion.For Cooler, it was Tuesday.
>>37919250You would samefag a vote anyway, so it's not like changing the system will alter your habits in anyway.
>>37919098Then we'll have to go up to him and smack him in his smug prick face.
>>37919290Cooler getting backhanded by an 8 year old. I can already hear Freiza laughing from hell.
>>37919283But its easier to get the desired outcome when all I need to do is get 5 votes, including other people. If it was majority I wouldn't have the patience to continuously samefag to beat you guys.
>>37919344No matter what we do, people will samefag. It's the problem every quest has.
>>37919122>>37919187Speaking of Cooler, I just popped in the Bluray Cooler's Revenge with US SoundtrackJust because I'm so drunkShit is cash
>DBZ human quest>#58what's your power level?
>>37919390Does it still have completely inappropriate licensed music slap dashed onto it? That shit was so cringe worthy back in the day.
>>37919384But doesn't the fact that I can railroad you like me and a couple friends did with the initial Frieza fight (back when it was first to 3) bother you? Wouldn't it be safer to go to majority?
>>37919419~210,000,000+. We're officially in "Power levels are bullshit" territory and won't be keeping close track of them anymore.
>>37919446No, because I've been in threads where it was most votes in 10 minutes and people STILL gamed that to hell and back.
>>37919420Oh lord, you're giving me horrible flashbacks of the Broly movie with Smells like Teen Spirit it.
>>37919025why not unlock the super human in all our other friends?
>>37919420>>37919482ah you see,I was aroudn 13 when I experienced that so it wasn't cringeworthy at all, merely aweseomeI am sincerelly sorry if its cringeworthy for you guys becauese it is legitmately aweseom for meALsoe I am so drunk right now I am sorry
>>37919479Least then you can call it out or fight against it. With this system you can (and have been) be railroaded if peeps are fast enough.
>>37919518Nah, I was the same age then. It was still silly. But yes, I could see how being drunk or (especially) high would make it neat.
>>37919446Sure, but we can't really stop people from being cunts on the internet. If Dralo changes the system you will undoubtedly find a new way to be an ass in order to amuse yourself. At least with the first to 5 rule the quest moves quickly. Besides it doesn't concern me when most of the votes go the way I want them to anyway. >>37919518If you enjoy it more power to you.
>>37919502We have been trying, and have in two of our friends already. One of whom is going to kick our ass when they find out what we did, and I'm hoping we let them. I just realized, we put our other friends in a really bad position, they may have to choose between us and Gohan right now.
>>37919574Yeah I thought others could see it that way in the right circumstances>>37919577Thank you m8, I am really enjoying it. In a way I sometimes enjoy the movies more than the actual show, I hope that makes sence
>>37919664Some of the movies were really good, and cut down on the charging some too.
>>37919633Nah it's not like Kaguya is mad at Gohan. Though they're mainly friends with him though Kaguya so that may be awkward.
>>37919633Not really, doubt it go to that, but they might start thinking as to why Kaguya went and did that. Which I hope they realize fast enough that putting all your hopes on one person is going to cause them to go through some serious stress, especially a 8 year old kid.
>>37919695Gohan hates us right now, we may have lost our best friend. We won't make them choose, but Gohan will probably not want to hang out with them if we are around. Going to train with Hercule or just going around doing what we can to help random people might not be a bad thing right now.
>>37919757Yeah, though hate may not be the right word, he definitely doesn't want to be around us right now. Give him some space see about reconciling later on.
>>37919679>>37919679Yeah its actualy kind of amazing too think about how the fight between Goku and Cooler was handleed in comparison to the fight between Goku and Frieza
>>37919804I'd sooner go with disgust.
>>37919804>>37919842True, he isn't at Vegeta's level, but my god if he talks to us in the next month I'd be surprised, barring crisises.
>>37918984>The Androids in this timeline are significantly more powerful than canonAw shit.You'd think with the team overall being weaker at the time of Frieza's arrival, the Androids would be less powerful.But then again we do sort of have the strength of 3 super saiyans, 1 super human, and 1 super salty.
>>3792175719 and 20 should be easy to handle though, according to DRALO. We'll realize they aren't the right Androids and make sure the other two don't get woken up.
>>37923312You realise that things are obviously going to change precisely to stop matagaming like that? I wouldn't be surprised if - since all this super saiyan shit is happening right here on erf where Gero can see it - 16, 17 and 18 are all woken straight away, with 19 and 20 playing command&control in the background (plus energy drain shenanigans).
>>37924491You forgot 13, 14 and 15.And then 21-30 are also woken up.
>>37924537And cell eats them all to become supercalifragilisticexpialidocious perfect
>>37924654Using his perfect intelligence cell deduces that perfection itself is impossible, making his own existence a paradox. With this in mind he promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
>>37924709Using his perfect intelligence Cell deduces that the best way to get rid of a bunch of fighters who outnumber him and have the capacity to overpower him if given the time and incentive to train past their current limit would be to deny them that incentive.He promptly 'repents', faking a fairly believable story of genetic programming being overcome by higher intelligence, etc etc, and inveigles his way into everyone's training sessions. Then he poisons everyone while they sleep and decapitates goku, thus fulfilling his programming and letting him get on with ruling the world as an ubermensch dictator.Until bibidi babidi buu shows up, at which point everybody dies because cell can't take him and everybody else is dead.
>>37924834>DBZ Human Quest Cell>can't take BuuDon't be ridiculous, all this does is show Cell just how much there is left to conquer.
>>37925800>Canon super-perfect Cell dies to SSj2>Canon Fatbuu tanks goku SSj3>Canon Superbuu takes out Gotenks SSj3Unless HQ Cell approaches Mystic Gohan power levels, he should still have difficulty with Buu.
>>37925999>Unless HQ Cell approaches Mystic Gohan power levelsNah, Buu wouldn't reach Super due to best Satan being dead.And besides, Cell probably should approach mystic Gohan power levels by then, think of all the different fighters he's got within him.