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You gesture vaguely in the general direction of the estate. “Back home. Once we've returned you can take the rest of the day for yourself. You've done very well today, Stelios.”

He bows low, shutting the door. You hear him clambering up to the driver's bench a moment later. There are a variety of ways to reward slaves within your peoples traditions. An owner may allow a favored slave to pick a wife from among their other slaves, or even give them enough coin to purchase their own slave for whatever purpose they see fit. Of course, it's far more common to simply gift them money or a trinket. A gold piece would be customary for something particularly praiseworthy, but a few silvers would suffice for most else.

It's also customary for particularly favored slaves to be rewarded with nicer uniforms. Since most slave uniforms are made of linen or wool, a cotton uniform is usually granted to favored slaves. However, since all of your slaves have cotton uniforms you would need to grant them silk uniforms to show your favor. You could grant them higher honor by including a stripe of color through the uniform, red or purple indicating particularly extraordinary status. You've heard some nobles with vast numbers of slaves actually color code their servants based on where they work, what they do, and their relative rank among the servants.

Your thoughts are interrupted by the muffled sound of the whip snapping, the carriage jerking into motion a moment later. You feel quite good about what you've managed to accomplish today. You've managed to cross off quite a few things from your ever growing list of obligations. You taught your master enchanting and how to meditate upon reality, you taught Zahak to meditate, you finally bought Profectus a shield, and you're getting Chrys' armor repaired. Although, you never did buy traveling clothes. You'll need to find a tailor on your way out of town.

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It takes a little less than an hour to get back to your estate. You pass the time by chatting idly with Chryssa and answering Zahak's seemingly endless torrent of questions. Eventually the carriage rolls to a stop and only a moment later Stelios pulls the door open to allow you, Chrys, and Zahak to climb out. Zahak fades out of visibility in order to step out of the carriage, the only sign of his passing the way the carriage lists to one side when he shifts his weight.

You consider whether you ought to actually reward Stelios beyond giving him the rest of the day to relax.

>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.
>Give him a gold coin, he's done well today.
>Write-in

>>37749190
>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.

>>37749190
>Give him a gold coin, he's done well today.

>>37749190
>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.
Never start big, or they'll come to expect it.

>>37749190
>>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.

>>37749190
>>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.

>>37749388
>>37749320
>>37749262
>>37749319
>Few silver

>>37749289
>Gold

Writin'

>>37749190
>>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.
All our servants are already given an extreme amount of stuff. No need to overdo it here.

Also: You have forgotten the goat! Given that we will need quite a few over the next days (both for Zahak and for the feast and perhaps for day-to-day consumption by everyone) we should buy a whole herd!

>>37749190
>>Just give him a few silver, ten ought to do it.

What do slaves do with the money anyway?

>>37749445
seriously this >>37749471
We've given our slaves a huge upgrade in quality of life. fairly certain where they sleep may be as nice as most people in el-armin.
Considering we spent almost as much on improving their standered than they costed us. thanks for I believe SK's donation.

>>37749480
Buy stuff? Possibly their freedom? Its not like they are going to be locked up in the estate 24/7 any way.

I wonder how hard would it be to enchant(or have sk science up) an object to replicate someones voice, and then play audio of them saying horrible horrible things.
Like "KADIR FUCKS HIS MUM" or "KADIRS WAIFU A SHIT" or other anti-kadir things.

>>37749480
I mean, seems like it should be to much of an issue.

Guys I do think we should have perma work on a garden to offset the cost of food.
Small farm, since we should have the land for it, and you know we have to feed our slaves. And we may be gone for weeks at a time.

I just want to hear about all the upgrades we did to our house would be nice.
Seems like most visitor area's are covered. And mostly the upgrades are underway

>>37749507
>Its not like they are going to be locked up in the estate 24/7 any way.

Aren't they? They're slaves, not servants. I thought they'd be at our beck and call 24/7 since we own their life.

>>37749507
No thanks, we don't want them buying their freedom with the money we gave them.
It's funny but they can buy slaves.. I guess to help them do their own work, and generally make it easier on them selves. As well as they could improve their living conditions/customize it.
Considering we've fucking CAVES connected to our home. there should be plenty of space.
But with the quality of life we're giving our slaves no one will be leaving any time soon.

>>37749570
they are slaves. But I am sure, we might give trusted slaves(at perma's discern) if they would be fine to help her carry stuff, buy things they need/want.
Wouldn't mind making a caste system for our slaves.

>>37749544
We might be able to work something out with enchanting if we manage to develop Sound magic.
>>>Shit to do
>>BQ
>Liquid Fire
>Magnification/Telescope technique
>Point Offense
>Mistral arms
>Metal Music
>Expert Nature
>Expert Metal
>Vatis Earth
>Mark
>Create
>Animate
>Sleep
>Leaping
>Beam
>Selective
>Hidden
>AOE
>Magnetism
>Blowtorch
>Waterjet cutter
>Flash
>Partial invisibility
>Metal bladearm/fingers
>Use Nature to replicate an arm while we regenerate one with Water
>Matter into vys
>Sound magic
>Anatomy
>Vys
>fleshcrafting
>telepathy
>mindreading
>air burst(possibly into wind control)
>Levitation/vystentaclelegs
>CHECK THEM DAMN RUNES ON OUR SHIT
>GM surfing a'la Varvar

>Organize our cloak/catalog it
>Open the mystery containers

>Check out Varvars chest
>Get to readin

>>37749657
That sounds stupid.
A slave is a slave nigga, the fuck you talking about caste systems? fucking gay ass shit

>>37749657
>caste system
They are fucking slaves.
If one generally performs better, Prema will know and assign jobs accordingly.
Banished players, and possibly /tg/ in general have this tendency to overcomplicate stuff like this, for some reason.

>>37749695
add >Hot air balloon
please

>>37749570
We just gave this guy the day off so I would assume it isn't terrible uncommon for slaves to get at least some free time. I'd imagine they might get a chance once a month or so to buy items from the markets should they have any personal wealth we have granted them, if nothing else.

>>37749695
Man I remember starting that list and now it's just grown out of control.

>>37749695
Which of these would be most helpful for our assassination of Chry's husband?

>>37749816
Hidden.

>>37749695
Priority should be learning meta's gaining utility and more vys.
Metamagic Instructions: Leaping (Read)
thats the only one available really.
other ones we have to read.
but learning a few effects would be great.
(Slow), (Speed), (Confuse)

Void meditation makes learning meta's a joke.
Should mean making it much less time consuming. SO while in there, we could learn the meta's and bang out a few effects.

>>37749816
None.

Really none of those really have any value as assassination tools that we know of.

So I'll just say. Read Varvars notes.

>>37749852
Soma said we can do a Read + Meditate for Metas since the scrolls are short.

>>37749824
yes it would be. but we still haven't read the book.
But soon we could read a few meta tome's and do another void and bang out 2-3 meta's.

I want to take Zahak around and surprise all our party members with his telepathy.

>>37749816
Hidden, Selective and Leaping. The later two depending if we get him without anyone noticing or are force to fight our way out.

>>37749695
>>Leaping
>>Beam
>Selective
>Hidden
These should take very little thread time.

>>37749881
then I wouldn't be opposed to reading hidden.
then void meditation and do hidden + Leaping while in there.

>>37749884
>>37749852
Soma said that we can read a Meta scroll and meditate on it all at once (1 post) since they're short enough.

Saves thread time.

>>37749771
Nah, that's not the type of stuff that is listing, I don't think.
Besides, if I was gonna do that, I'd have to remember the other shit we had planned and possibly come up with some other simple shit to get the ball rolling.
I'd also need to add the Dragon Knight Armor I came up with a couple months(?) ago.
>>37749816
Having ranged is enough for that. Also, which I forgot to add, maybe working out some combination of Fire+Nature that makes us invisible to Nature-sight, Soma confirmed it MIGHT be possible, I think. I'll go add some more shit.
>>37749852
>>37749884
Effects can be mediated on without reading, Soma said Mik can just meditate and read when he needs more info.
Void meditations are dangerous, by the way.

>>37749888
I think he'll do that on his own. All our companions will be having their private conversations, and then all the sudden a dragon butts in asking whatever the fuck they're talking about.

>>37749900
Yes.

>>37749895
Beam is super powerful.

>>37749888

We need to tell our family we have a son still.

>>37749922
>Effects can be mediated on without reading,
Serious maluses.

Gotta read and understand then we meditate.

Otherwise it's just shots in the dark.

>>37749927

Prof and skull kid in conversation
>Brother-uncle what are hookers?

>>37749900
Once we do that, I want to study anatomy.
with Darzi training Chys how to kiss. We should focus on getting better at healing the body And clean Chys of her scars from the inside. With out having to cut her

>>37749936
Oh dear.

Should we introduce him at the party?

This is a terrible idea.

>>37749969
That is all around stupid as fuck.

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>>37749969

>>37749979

That's a fabulous idea.

"Presenting Mikhael Abdul-Hakim and his son, Zahak Abdul-Hakim!"

>>37749979
Eventually he his going to wonder why he has to keep himself hidden if we haven't already answered that question.

>>37749954
Read the whole post.
>>37749936
>>37749979
Nope.
>>37749927
I'd actually rather be there for it and tell our companions not to fill his head with bullshit. I don't want Prof telling Zahak about whores, or SK about how to do terrorism, or fulvia how to dissect dragons, etc.
>>37749969
I'd rather Darzi train us.
In Marsala-Ve.
Steam, sweaty training session with a sporty Darzi, both of us wearing casual clothes and showing a bit of skin when?

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>>37750010
>Our mom's face when

Nothing can go wrong with this plan

>>37749996
So you want to present chys all scarred up to our family?
We want to give them the best impression of her as possible.

>>37749979
If we can teach him to mask himself as Samjan, I don't see why not.

>>37750047
I wonder what her face will be when Zahak calls Chrys "Mom."

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>>37750087

>>37750046
You can'r stop in the middle of a meditation to read.

>>37749900
>>37749895
>>37749852
AoE > Leaping
We've had an entire discussion about how much superior AoE in one of the earlier threads.

>>37750068
Hey mom I wish to marry this pile of goat shit
vs
Hey mom I wish to marry this pile of polished goat shit
it doesn't matter, and she probably likes those scars faggot, shes a god damned warrior

>>37750046
honestly I am down for Darzi.
But we would have to explain a bit to Zahak.
And could ruin Chys's relationship with us.

>>37750104
Regardless, Soma said it's not important to read shit before voting to meditate on it, we can just vote for both at the same time.

>>37750114
AOE
Leaping
Beam
Hidden
Selective

In that order.

>>37750121
If Chrys wants to roll with a Samja, she's gonna have to roll with Samha costums.
We're gonna go up north to bumfuck nowhere to kill her shitty husband because of her cultural rules, after all.

>>37750125
That is what I've been saying you imbecile.

You said we don't have tom read before we meditate.

>>37750121
>>37750046

Don't worry, Chrys will probably die in a few decades and then we can shack up with Darzi.

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>>37750087

>>37750149
Why would you want tom to read? I think tom's read enough quite frankly.

>>37750131
It's about proity. With our upcoming mission.
Yes you're right they are more usefull in general. But we hopfully will be doing this get in and get out. Assasination, we need Hidden/selective/beam?
Hidden ice spike to the face. Would solve all our problems.
Or you know just sneak into his home. under the cover of night and heart stop his ass.

>>37750114
>>37750131

We are likely to fight him in an environment with non-combatants (Its a town), selective should be on top for this specific occasion.

>>37750153
Not if Mik can help it.

We're gonna craft such an amazing body with enchanting. She'll be able to feel and eat and everything but we'll also trick that shit out with hidden compartments an laser beams.

>>37750087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTUps1orkh8
>mental breakdown intensifies

>>37750153
I don't want to wait, what if Darzi finds someone she likes during that time?

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You reach into your cloak and retrieve a handful of silver. Ten silver isn't really much, but Stelios is a slave and it's not like he saved your life or anything. A small reward is all that's really called for. Ten silver is enough to buy a decent meal or a fat wad of opium in a hookah den. He takes the coin gratefully, bowing to you in thanks, and then sets to unhooking the camels from the carriage.

As soon as you step inside the front door, you're assaulted by the sounds of pounding hammers, shouting men, and screeching furniture. Work seems well underway in the ballroom to repair the tile floor. You note that a number of the laborers seem to have some experience with Earth magic, as instead of replacing broken tiles they merely mend them using magic. They seem to have set up some sort of make-shift scaffolding which they're using to repaint the walls and repair a few holes in the ceiling. You count thirteen paid laborers in that room alone. How many men did Fulvia and Prema hire?

Passing into the dining hall you find it in a similarly hectic state. You see a number of men, slaves and laborers alike, carefully walking across the massive wooden beams which support the ceiling. They're hanging long sheets of silk in a variety of colors, reds and blues mostly. You also see men patching holes in the floorboards, repairing broken tiles, and trying to manhandle a massive woven rug into position. Much of the clutter that previously turned the dining hall into a maze has been removed.
(1/3)

>>37750149
Yeah, whats up with you. Tom doesn't even like to read!

>>37749969
>teach her how to kiss
but that's our job

>>37750186
AoE + Paralyze = Problem Solved.

You have Zahak remain invisible as you pick your way through the dining hall and up the stairs. The bust of previous owners have been removed, the depressions in the wall that used to house the statues sitting empty. You also note that the ratty, thread-bare rug which once lined the stairs has been replaced by a long cotton and silk woven carpet depicting one of the more common tales of Samjan myth. It's an old story about the Thousand Year Emperor and his battle with the Imperator of the Rhynian Emperor.

Both figures are depicted in full armor. The Thousand Year Emperor wears a suit not unlike your Warlock Armor, though bulkier. He seems to glow with some internal light, either arcane or divine in origin you can't really be certain. The Rhynian Imperator, by contrast, wears a massive suit of hulking plate, black and detailed elegantly with gold. The skull of a lion floats above his head, and he has some sort of obnoxious wreath attached to his helmet. It's all rather ostentatious. The Thousand Year Emperor wields a simple spear, where as the Rhynian Emperor wields a warhammer that must weight twice as much as you judging by the size of it.

As you ascend the stairs the scene plays out. The Imperator goes on the offensive, swinging his hammer with surprising ease. The Emperor dodges the blows elegantly, leaping over them or ducking beneath. Toying with the Imperator. Each time the Imperator misses, his hammer cracks the earth and kicks up massive chunks of stone. However, instead of falling to the ground the stones rise up into the air, coalescing into a boulder three times the size of the wicked Imperator.

The climax of the store comes as you reach the top of the stairs. The Emperor brings down the massive stone and crushes the Imperator beneath. Then he lifts it up and slams it down again, and again for good measure. The last scene is an image of the Emperor standing at the front of a group of soldiers, Rhynians fleeing desperately before him.
(2/3)

>>37750184
Or we could just, you know, wait until he's outside town and freeze his heart.
Or go in town invisibly and freeze his heart.
Or freeze his heart at a distance.
The point is, no need to make it fancy.

>>37750184
But we don't need hidden for any of that.

Besides we could do all of those in 1 day.

>>37750186
preferably we won't be fighting him. Just walking up and freezing his head and dipping.

You can't help but wonder how much that cost, it stretches down both flights of stairs. It must be sixty feet long, at least. Regardless, you quickly make your way to the master bedroom. Thankfully, they've yet to begin any repairs on this room. There doesn't really seem to be anything in need of repair. You open the door to let Zahak into the room, and then turn your attention to Chrys. You're planning on meditating, but you recall that she was having some trouble maintaining a meditative trance. You might wish to pull her aside and work through whatever trouble she's facing.

>Invite her to perform a group meditation with you on Earth magic.
>Instead of Earth Magic, try a group meditation on some other elemental magic.
>You were planning on meditating on an effect, but you can give her some brief instruction.
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.
>Just give her a few pointers and excuse yourself. You don't want any distractions when you meditate.
>Write-in

>>37750244
>Invite her to perform a group meditation with you on Earth magic.

>>37750233

I know, but what plan has ever work perfectly? Even killing the Shad didn't work as intended because we decided to save him.

>>37750244
>Invite her to perform a group meditation with you on Earth magic.
...Invite Zahak into his first group meditation?

>>37750233
>>37750227
Or we could turn killing him into a meditation.

>>37750286
Definitely this. I want to get him started on learning to meditate on elements

>>37750286
Second group meditation.
If you count his time in the egg.
Also, seconding.

>>37750292
>I will meditate unto your demise!

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

>>37750244
>>37750286
Sure.

>>37750244
>Invite her to perform a group meditation with you on Earth magic.

>>37750286
This too.

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

Goddamit Soma why did he have to be named Stelios I can't keep that damned tune out my head.

STELIOS!!.. STELIOS KONTOS!

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

>>37750222
>The bust of previous owners have been removed, the depressions in the wall that used to house the statues sitting empty.
That's a damn shame.
>>37750244
>>37750244
>>Invite her to perform a group meditation with you on Earth magic.
Let's get to the next level in Earth, then we can get back to Metal afterwards.
>>37750286
Nah, I want it to be only us and him during our first group meditation.
I also don't want him to know that Chrys is better than us at Earth.
>>37750292
Nah.

>>37750326
That's actually how I remember his name if I ever forget it.

>>37750244
>>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.

So no ones gonna vote for Metas?

And we're gonna do earth which is by far the most useless thing to meditate on for us?

>>37750244
>>You were planning on meditating on an effect, but you can give her some brief instruction.
>>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.
Actually, if these mean that we1ll watch her go into trance and give some pointers, after which we will go solo on Metas and have Chrys leave, then I change my vote in >>37750335 to one of these.
>>37750364
>useless elemental magic
No such things.
Besides, we'll be going to the Pa'vala, a desert, do you think Earth will be useless in a world of sand?

>>37750244
>Actually you were hoping to enhance your library of Metamagics, but helping her shouldn't take too long.
Let's not have ADHD

>>37750364
Fun Fact
I've always been a Nature and Earthfag

>>37750344
>>37750332
>>37750326
>>37750312
>>37750355
>>37750363
>>37750397
>Metamagic

>>37750268
>>37750286
>>37750299
>>37750308
>>37750320
>>37750322
>>37750335
>Earth Magic

FINAL DESTINATION TIME

VOTE
1
For Metamagic

VOTE
2
For Earth Magic

5 minutes.

>>37750412
1

>>37750412
1

>>37750412
1

>>37750402
And i've always been a mistral arms and /fit/ fag, but i think we can get along

>>37750412
2

>>37750412
Some clarification on what voting for Meta means, Soma? Will we give pointers then let her go on her way?

>>37750412
1

>>37750412
1

>>37750412
1

>>37750412
1

>>37750437
Basically yeah.

>>37750222
>The Thousand Year Emperor wears a suit not unlike your Warlock Armor, though bulkier.
How does it compare to our new armor?

>>37750428
not that anon, but fun fact, I'm the one that came up with the idea for Mistralarms, and I'm an anatomy+specialized elemental application fag.

>>37750437
We'll give her some pointers. it says in the vote.

>but helping her shouldn't take too long.

>>37750419
>>37750420
>>37750425
>>37750444
>>37750447
>>37750449
>>37750451
Have Banished Quest players final overcome their ADHD?

>>37750412
2

God dam i hate waifufags.

I love Chryss but seriously?

>>37750412
2

>>37750412
1

Man I miss when slavery was a thing. Why did it fall out of practice guys? It's just not fair.

>>37750412
2

>>37750412
1

>>37750460
well aren't we just a happy group of fags?

>>37750471
I dont think anyone jumped off of the focus.

There was just one or two guys who really wanted to be with Chryss.

>>37750471
Well although I suggested meditating on earth with Zahak, I changed my mind for various reasons.

>>37750479
Are you referring to something specific right now?
>>37750496
Man, it never works out, just look at history.
Maybe if we actually had some smart people design it.

>>37750479
Retards will retard regardless of logic or reasoning.
>>37750496
The south got stupid and injected politics into it.

>>37750496
It's actually detrimental to an economy if they're relied upon too heavily. [Citation Needed]

>>37750428
I like you
Don't care much for Mistral Arms but dat /fit/ tho

>>37750419
>>37750420
>>37750425
>>37750444
>>37750447
>>37750449
>>37750451
>>37750493
>>37750511
>1

>>37750430
>>37750476
>>37750485
>>37750501
>2

>>37750511
Last valid vote.

>>37750458
It doesn't seem quite that bulky, nor does it feature as much metal.

>>37750496
Slavery still exist. Dubai is home to thousands upon thousands of Indian slaves kidnapped or tricked into coming there for work. China is similarly built upon the back of slave labor, as is North Korea and Russia. However, the western world has largely developed economically beyond the need for slavery.

>>37750479
Chrys is our apprentice, I don't give a fuck about waifuing or not waifuing, but we should correct her shit as her teacher. Fuck off with you

>>37750538
I'm referring to it being tied and then ladslide for Metas.

Saying that people samefagged so we could be with the waifu instead of do the other thing/logical thing/ thing we need to do/etc etc

>>37750479
She's our apprentice who we've been neglecting to train and she said shes been having problems. It makes sense to help her out.

>>37750578
Or one's opinion could be changed, too.

>>37750568
Are those ACTUALLY slaves though?

>>37750584
>>37750575
Which is why we give her pointers like our master did us.

We can't solve all of her problems for her. What if she runs into a problem and we can't help her? she needs to learn to advance her own skill.

Did Master ever group meditate with us? No.

>>37750578
I got distracted by watching a movie right after the initial vote actually

>>37750575
I agree 100%. Not to mention, as a group meditation we could have gotten Zahak into it. I honestly don't understand peoples constant obsession with going lone wolf all the time.

>>37750568
I guess robots could be considered slaves.

>>37750578
I initially voted for Earth and changed my vote because I changed my mind in time for the Final Destination vote, man.

Which Meta will you meditate on? I thought you had more available, but I guess not. Correct me if I'm missing something.
>Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Delay (Unread)

>>37750614
Oh yeah, unpaid forced labor for an indefinite period. Housed and fed on sight by those 'employing' them.

>>37750641
Eh, not if they lack AI.

>>37750614
They work to be housed on property owned by their employer and are fed and clothed solely through their employer and their only chances of advancement fall under the purview of their employer.
I suppose you could interpret that however you want, but it very certainly mimics age-old Slavery.

>>37750594
All I know is that we bought that ridiculous armor and in order to use it we need to up our Vys reserves considerably. Grinding meta's is just about the easiest way to do so at this point so here we are.

>>37750594
Tis true

>>37750657
>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)

>>37750657
>>Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
Useful for fights.

>>37750657
Beam

>>37750657
>write in
The runes on our freaking ring!

>>37750619
What, when has it been ever stated that our master never meditated with us? I imagine he did at least once or twice to observe how we've been meditating and correct it from there. What the fuck are you on, nigga?

>>37750657
>Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)

>>37750657
>>Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)
>>37750657
can we o all of them?


You forgot about Leaping.

>>37750657
>>Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Area of Effect (Unread)
>>Metamagic Instructions: Delay (Unread)
>>Leaping
Meditation on all of them 2 at a time using meditation on reality.

>>37750657
>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)

>>37750657
>Metamagic Instructions: Hidden (Unread)
>Metamagic Instructions: Selective (Unread)

>>37750657
You said we could do more than one at a time right?

That way we can learn several while at a gate and not have to make multiple trips?

Also you forgot leaping.

Also Beam. And leaping if we can do more than one.

>>37750694
>can we o all of them?
Not without accruing massive penalties.

Leaping was indeed the meta I was forgetting. Thanks for the reminder.

>>37750657
Can't we meditate on more than one in the void?
But I saw we read hidden and beam.
in the void focus on em!

>>37750635
It's the 'git gud/get fit/get all dah magic evuh' grind fags, man. It's been and has always been a part of the quest, for better or worse

>>37750727
>leaping
I think you mean AoE.

>>37750729
can we do 2?

Leaping and Beam?

>>37750680
Pretty sure it would have been mentioned at least once.

>>37750680
Group meditation was thing we've never heard of before reading about it in a book, I believe.

>>37750727
>You said we could do more than one at a time right?
I don't recall that at all. You can only meditate on one meta at a time and successive meditations accrue a malus which increases exponentially the more times you meditate in quick succession. So -2, -4, -8, -16, -32, -64, et cetera.

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>>37750729
This is your fault

>>37750729
Leaping + AOE + Beam.

>>37750768
I thoght we could make one trip into the void and meditate on several while in there?

>>37750657

>Indian Slaves

Why would you get Indian slaves? They're going to be all weak and malnourished.

Eh, wherever they are is probably better than where they were.

>>37750635
The only part of the quest they care about is Miks magical skill. It's annoying as fuck

>>37750756
AoE > Leaping

>>37750768
Can we combine AOE and Beam into a death ray like my nigga Goku?

>>37750768
would you be able to tell us what bonus a closed gate or an open gate would give us?

>>37750657
>Delay
>Hidden

>>37750768
He mentioned we could read several at a time, not meditate on several at a time.

>>37750729
Soma, why? By your very own mechanics you bog down these threads with this shit instead of letting us get it out of the way

>>37750800
Nah, they'd cancel out. You'd either get an AOE or you'd get a Beam.

>>37750787
Eh, I'd say that would be okay. You'd need to roll for each one in succession, but it would take slightly less time than if you did a separate session for each meta. You'd also need to roll on a random encounter table to see if you'd end up encountering any sort of void creatures hungering for your delicious soul.

>>37750817
Tis true.

All it does is consume in thread time and not even BQ verse time.

>>37750768
Yo Soma can we still encourage Zahak and Chrys to meditate together?

>>37750783
>Stelios the Samjam

FTFY

>>37750817
Magic meditation aren't supposed to be things that you "get out of the way," they're things which change the scope of the Quest's combat and empower the character.
Of course there would be a limit to how much can be done successively, if not only because learning magical methods is mentally taxing.

>>37750817
It'd make getting stronger too easy

>>37750855
>Eh, I'd say that would be okay. You'd need to roll for each one in succession, but it would take slightly less time than if you did a separate session for each meta. You'd also need to roll on a random encounter table to see if you'd end up encountering any sort of void creatures hungering for your delicious soul.
You see, we'd only have to roll the random encounter table once. That is what i'm trying to get at here. More Bang for our Risk.

So can we do 2? Or host a vote to see if we wanna do 2?

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>>37750789
Fuck off with your whining, just so you know it's the faggots who bite on every plot/sidequest hook that make it impossible to advance in magic and do social shit both.

>>37750753
The sad thing is, doing a group meditation with them would be a better way of gitting gud, cause we'd actually get bonuses for having them do it with us. Unfortunately, taking the path that would actually help both ourselves and them more is apparently going hardcore Chys wafu route for some reason. ... Sometimes I really don't understand /tg/

>>37750891
IT's mroe that we can meditate back to back, but we can't chain it all together at once. Nearly the same BQ time. Just save a bunch of Thread time.

>>37750915
We're wiping things off our to-do list lately. The elemental trees are long and for sheer number of things done it's better to do simple metamagics

>>37750909
Tis true.

>>37750915
cept Earth a shit. Also the Entity's Element so no let's not risk that. Also pretty much every other option for us is better.

If they had offered Nature of Metal then hell yeah i would have.

>>37750915
Meditating on Earth and succeeding would get get us to a level above the one we're on right now, which still isn't useful for combat.
Meditating on a meta can change the whole way we approach combat, and can be combine with all of the elements.

>>37750817
>>37750859
Because just sitting down and rolling some dice for +20 vys is boring as shit and takes away any sense of challenge. Advancement in magic should be gradual.

>>37750895
You'd need to roll the random encounter table each time you meditate.

Alright, lets do it this way.

VOTE
1
To start off with HIDDEN

VOTE
2
To start off with BEAM

VOTE
3
To start off with LEAPING (Since I forgot to include it in the initial vote)

>>37750978
1

>>37750978
1

>>37750978
3

>>37750978
1

>>37750978
3

>>37750978
1

>>37750978
1

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2

>>37750978
1

>>37750915
>would be a better way of gitting gud

Really not a better or worse right now anon. We could grab Vatis in Earth or a Meta. Considering how fucking few metas/effects we have, people chose to pursue that course. Personally I advocate knocking out as many of those as we can just for the vys bonuses.

>>37750978
2

>>37750946
Yet for raw power and versatility, no meta actually comes close to the elemental trees, not to mention we have the people ready to learn, we get to power up our companions, and we get to correct whatever Chys is doing wrong with her meditations.. You do realize that our next earth meditation actually pops us up to the next level, right?

I'm sorry, but I honestly can't see any way that any metamagic could give us half the advantages that the group meditation would have given us.

>>37750978
2

>>37750978
1

>>37751090
Simple. We never have use for Earth anyway.

>>37751056
We actually get a vys bonus with our next earth meditation though..

>>37751090
Elemental advancement is gradual.
Meta/Effect advancement gives instant returns.
We have fewer options for the second, so people want to get it out of the way now, especially since it will give us more vys which we desperately need.

>>37750978
1

>>37751090
Leveling up in Earth right now would give us next to no power.

Think about how crucial Ranged is to us.

The bonuses from metas are multiplied the better the meta is.

>>37751134
you mean other then blowing up islands, and dissolving anything we don't like?

>>37750995
>>37751002
>>37751012
>>37751019
>>37751034
>>37751052
>>37751099
>1

>>37751043
>>37751080
>>37751095
>2

>>37751004
>>37751013
>3

>>37751099
Last valid vote.

Writin' for 1. I assume you're using meditation upon reality, but correct me if you'd rather meditate normally/use a different method.

>>37751143
we get double that bonus from learning a meta.

>>37751173
>citing the 1 time we used Earth magic

>>37751143
Yeah, that's why it wouldn't have been a bad idea.
But Metal also gives ua a vys point if we succeed on the next meditation, and every effects/meta does as well.
Might be good to knock out an insight into both Metal and Earth next time we meditate, but afterwards can we agree to focus in effects and metas for a bit?

>>37751134
Even though it has potentially the most damaging close range attack we know about.

>>37751182
So not 2?

>>37751173
Fire > Earth
That's why we rarely need Earth.

>>37751182
I'd rather meditate normally than risk getting eaten by a void being for some crappy meta magic.

>>37751182
How are we on vys right now, Soma? We can use it to improve rolls, right?
If we get full reserves before starting a the venture into the void itself, then do Meditation on Reality, if no, just do a regular one.
I kinda miss learning metas the traditional way, the way we learned Ranged fucking cool as shit.

>>37751192
>disregarding that the better we get with an element, the more we're able to do with it, and the more we'll use it.

>>37751182
Actually, it depends on whether those meditations seem like relatively complicated ones or simple ones to Mikhael.

If they are relatively easy, the risks ouf meditating on reality (especially with a weakened soul) outweight the benefit.

>>37751207
That we are never in a position to use. Cause we have better armor.

Not to mention we fight from range.

>>37751207
Fire is the strongest combat magic, Soma has confirmed this.

>>37751182
I agree with >>37751252, if it seems relatively simple, then do normal one for sure, but since we have a weakened soul right now, I vote for normal meditation even if it doesn't seem incredibly easy.

>>37751234
Yeah that was one of the reasons why I picked Banished back up after dropping it after the first thread. I wish metas were cool again.

>>37751242
By the time it is to the point where it is usable it'll have to be at least Master.

And we have much better ways to devote out time.

Like Metal and Nature, both of which are much much better than earth.

>>37751182
Normal, we decided we need to stay away from the void for a while.

>>37751311
Nah

>>37751200
Honestly, the thing that annoys me isn't that we didn't do earth. What annoys me is that we had a chance to noticeably improve 3 people at once instead of just ourselves, and it was dismissed as Chys wafu shit. Call me crazy, but I like the idea of making our companions stronger while at the same time making it easier for us to be stronger. ... Maybe I'm the strange one..

>>37751326
Nature could be good. Long term and short term.
earth extremely useful once we get to pavala

>>37751269
I don't know man, making peoples bits disappear with a wave of a hand seems pretty good. Especially since there doesn't seem to be a defense against it.
>>37751265
For all we know you don't need the armour to do that and we just haven't figured it out. For all we know we can do that at range.

>>37751326
I just wanna do one earth meditation to get a quick and easy vys point

Shoot, sorry. Went delving the archives to make sure I wasn't forgetting any other metas. Anyway, seems there's actually some debate.

>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.
>Meditate on Reality
>Meditate on Forms

I'll probably just leave this open since I'll be writing unless y'all tie up.

>>37751358
They'll be doing shit on there own. It's not like us not doing it with them means they wont do it themselves.

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751326
To be honest Earth should have other uses but until we learn them I'm not voting Earth.
>>37751374
Metal can defend against that.

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751358
I didn't dismiss it as waifushit, but it's not like we won't have any opportunities to do group meditations from now on.

>>37751374
>For all we know you don't need the armour to do that and we just haven't figured it out.
conjecture, also it would be GM level

>>37751388
reality

What's the DC?

>>37751388
>Meditate on Forms

I honestly like the whole get in shape while you git gud bit.

>>37751388
>>Meditate on Reality

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751388
>Meditate on Forms
Time for /fit/

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751374
>Especially since there doesn't seem to be a defense against it.
>hurr durr what is Manipulate+Earth?
If you want to make bits of people disappear, then Destroy is what you're looking for, which we might be able to work out on our own if we learn Create.
Where are you getting this "make bits of people disappear with Earth magic" from anyway? I honestly can't remember that.

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751441
We'd have a -4 to a Meta meditation.

we'd probably fail.

We should do Forms with Nature. No way we'll fail. Also it'll get us used to using Extrasensoryness while in combat.

>>37751388
>>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.

>>37751388
>Meditate on Reality
guys, stop being a pussy.
we need to learn shit. This provides us the best way to learn. And we learn more about this meditation.
exactly how much of a bonus it provides towards learning metas.

>>37751388
>Meditate on Forms

>>37751508
I think +10

>>37751431
You didn't, but others did. It's not a big deal. I Honestly doubt we'll be able to do a group meditation any time in the near future though, cause we're about to go lone wolf and kill someone.. Which means it's going to be that much longer before we correct whatever Chys is doing wrong while meditating... if we don't just forget about it.

>>37751388
>Meditate on Reality
just dont jump into anything this time.
>>37751415
Half nobody knows metal apart from blacksmiths.

>>37751388
>Meditate on Reality

>>37751525
quit being a bitch

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>>37749735
Fuck slaves? How OLD are you?

>>37751490
That reminds me, Soma, can we advance with Metal magic while using Forms? I don't think we did last time we did it, or am I wrong?
It's be really cool if we were eventually able to combine Nature and Metal and medidate on both while doing Forms.
What would be even cooler is earth+metal+water+nature with combat meditation, so we could do Point Defense+Offense while hardening our body in case an attack gets through and using Earth to unbalance opponents and fuck up their armor.

>>37751550
no u!

>>37751475
Dont you remember what earth and the centurion armour does? It makes the gauntlet disintegrate whatever it touches. We used it on the anti mage golem in that mine.

>>37751388
>Meditate normally, ie in the manner that the scroll directs.
No need to risk our ass for a meta.

>>37751508
Our soul is still fucked up, we should try to avoid the void for a bit

>>37751525
We're not going to finish meditating and get to lonewolfing immediately.
There's time.
>>37751568
No, it disintegrates Earthen materials, not everything.

>>37751605
Pretty sure we had to be careful not to take our own arm off with it in that fight. I may be wrong however.

>>37751568
Which almost killed us because we were so close.

>>37751564
You can, and the last time you meditated on Metal Magic it bumped you from no insights to 1/2 insights.

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>>37751405
>Normally

>>37751433
>>37751447
>>37751508
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>>37751535
>Reality

>>37751514
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>>37751441
>forms

Normally it is.

>>37751525
We have 2 more full days before the feast then a day or two before leaving. Then we'll have more time when we get back.

Quit whining

>>37751639
Learn how to do it without the armour and channel it into our weapon. Boom, disintegration spear.

>>37751667
It's probably just earth+weapon channeling.

Guys, we haven't invited or family yet. Come on we have to do that couple of days in advance so that they can be ready, don't put it off till the last minute.
If we can't go personally, we could send someone to do it. Though I'd prefer if we go

>>37751695
We should send Prema to do it.

>>37751695
Inviting the family is a terrible idea anyway. Let's just not do it.

>>37751667
GM level at least

>>37751695
That's what slaves are for.

>>37751712
Either her or Darzi, yeah.

Maybe we could write out an invitation and then just have it delivered by someone else?

>>37751691
No, it's probably a relatively complex rune, or at least one involving Destroy or something.

>>37751691
Pity we never tried it before. I mean how do you defend against a big long pole that turns shit to dust.
>>37751731
Probably not. None of the other armour effects produced GM level abilities.

>>37751739
Not really, a core part of earth magic is disintegration, we just have to channel that through our spear.

>>37751721
How is it a bad idea to invite your parents to a party?

Erosion and disintegration are a pretty intrinsic part of Earth Magic that you're able to do to a limited extent already. It's what you used to weaken the barrels of gunpowder in the pirate base.

Destroy is similar to Earth Magic disintegration, but unlike Earth Magic it converts whatever it's used on into vys, rather than just sand or rust or what have you.

>>37751796
When it's a party involving an old vatis they dislike and his friends, possibly a dragon, a bunch of Mik's old friends, our mutie, non samjan companions, and probably some commoners, and Mik's family are incredibly high class nobles, it's not a brilliant idea.

>>37751768
>Magic sight via Water (incredibly usefull when apired with other shit (Water +Poison, etc etc))
>Randomly grow massive Metal plates across our body
Dont try to pretend that the armor isn't a wild card

>>37751774
The Core part of Earth magic is Erosion. Which when done fast enough with enough Vys can be the same as disentegration. A high level technique

>>37751837
So with Destroy+Leech we can eat a building?

>>37751863
But they like our master.
>>37751876
I refer you to >>37751837

>>37751876
>The Core part of Earth magic is Erosion. Which when done fast enough with enough Vys can be the same as disentegration. A high level technique
>>37751837

>>37751837
>Destroy is similar to Earth Magic disintegration, but unlike Earth Magic it converts whatever it's used on into vys, rather than just sand or rust or what have you.
>but unlike Earth Magic it converts whatever it's used on into vys
Wait what?

>>37751892
Ehh, I'd say you'd need to toss a manipulate in there as well, but yeah essentially. However, Destroy is a costly meta so you'd really only gain anything if you destroyed a material rich in vys. Otherwise the cost of the spell would outpace the vys gained.

>>37751796
To a party held in a mansion owned by a spirit that we bought without their knowledge(the money we spend could have made our family richer than almost everyone in El-Amin), where our filthy degenerate companions will be present, and run the risk of Zahak revealing himself.
>>37751837
So what you're saying is we could possibly reinvent Destroy by meditating on it and using Earth Magic as a basis, along with Create, and possibly Vys?
I fucking swear I asked you about that once and you said Destroy just straight up destroys shit, we'd have to invent a new Effect to do matter-to-vys, and that Destroy isn't just reverse-Create.

>>37751863
Tehn only invite the ones we like.

It'd be rude not inviting Dad and bio mom and haggler mom. And the 2 cool sisters. and cool bro.

That's really all we need. Maybe the ex waifu too.

>>37751936
I remember reading that on ask too, anon

>>37751936
>>37751982
Same here.

So captcha is just a grey box for me now. Testing to see if it requires solving to post.

>>37751936
Our master will probably tell them about Zahak anyway. Its not like he is super secret. All our slaves know about him.

>>37751982
>>37751936
>>37751997
Ask is semi-canonical. I reserve the right to freely go back on any ask answer I give upon further thought regarding that topic. Shit said in thread is pretty much the way it is and shit said in quest is iron clad unless I intend for it to be wrong, like some ancient writing by a madman who had no idea what he was saying.

>>37751936
Reverse create would be matter to vys anyways mate.

>>37752037
>all our slaves know about him
Yeah, that was a stupid ass idea as well, by the way.
It'd be better to tell Pa and Ma about him, and maybe exwaifu if we decide to try and waifu her about him, then letting our slaves know.
I still hate that we bought this mansion and bought slaves for it. We are almost certainly never going to use all the shit in here, we already can't make full use of the shit we have.
Holding a party is also fucking stupid, since we're not staying here long-term and it will just spread news of our return even more.

>>37752078
That is what I was implying, yes.
>>37752076
Well, okay. At least we know for certain then.
Although it's a shame we have less potential to be OP now.

>>37752133
Soma dangles the bait in front of us and we can't help but take it. Even if we know it will hurt us in the end.

>>37752133
Oh boo hoo. Not like we can hide a dragon forever. Besides all the people coming are going to be old friends, family or our masters friends and they probably know better than to run their mouth.

>>37752179
Better than we do, even. Considering they were never banished for slander.

>>37752133
>and it will just spread news of our return even more.
So? We were told to keep our head down and all we're doing is telling family and friends. We're good.

Besides at least some of our companions will be staying behind to work on their own shit.
It's nice to have a place in the city to come home to. An Estate to pay and bill.

>>37752159
>That is what I was implying, yes.
Sorry, read your post wrong.

>>37752133
The way I look at it, an actual home base is great right now, cause we can leave SK here making shit for us while we go stir up trouble. Introduce SK to our pops before we leave and we might come back to find ourselves richer then ever!

>>37752160
I know, anon. He knows it as well, remember when he talked about the dragon-nerd he had planned? Falling for that would have been all on us, yet it would have also been a perfectly executed plan by Soma.
>>37752179
>Not like we can hide our dragon forever
WE COULD DAMN WELL TRY!
Or at least not reveal him literally like 2 weeks after hatching him!

Rolled 1, 1, 5 + 6 = 13 (3d10 + 6)

Schedule Anon again. Just wanted to toss something in before I go to work.


If Prof ever needs to trim down on his volcano arm's rocky growth, he can do so by channeling Earth magic into his centurion armor.

>>31791339
Centurion Earth Disintegration: Out of curiosity, you try channeling some earth magic into the control panel on your left forearm. At first, nothing seems to happen. You try to push yourself into a standing position, but as your left hand touches the ground it sinks straight through the stone. You find yourself stuck should deep in the ground, and only with Fulvia's help do you finally manage to right yourself and get to your feet.
Taking a look at the ground where your hand had passed through, there is a wide hole there. Probably from when you were flailing your arm around uselessly. It almost seems as though wherever your hand touched, the stone simply disappeared. You crouch down and press your left hand once more to the stone, and wherever your hand touches the stone boils away into nothing. Almost like it's being converted into raw vys.

>>37752195
Good point.

>>37752272
I'd rather him not chop his arm off.

We can't heal it.

>>37752272
>Almost like it's being converted into raw vys.
I knew I'd said that before. Glad I wasn't totally going back on my old position.

>>37752272
I recall we told him that if he learns Earth magic he should be able to change the shape of his arm mostly at will.

I'm not sure if he ever went ahead and did so though, considering he's only an apprentice in Earth.

>>37752322
So the centurion armor uses the destroy effect?

>>37752179
We should teach it to use illusions to pretend he's Samjan.

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>>37752410
>it

>IT

>>37752410
>It

>>37752410
Fuck you

>>37752381
It probably takes the Earth magic channeled and amplifies it through a Destroy enchantment.

>>37752410
But any nature Vati could see right through it.

>>37752410
>Zahak when in doubt just start shit talking the other races

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>>37752410
>it

>>37752381
Now that I think about it, it might just be a simple Destroy gatewayed to presence of earth magic, instead of an application of Earth magic.

>>37752452
>Elves are so shit, right guys? Degenerates can't even fly.

>>37752410
Eat a bag of cock.

>>37752466
>They should just go back to being slaves to dragons. Am I right, my fellow Samjan?

>>37752410
Or we could teach HIM how to shapeshift.

>>37752428
>>37752466
Both of these made me chuckle.

>>37752451
Eh, the only nature vatis that are going to be there are the masters friends and Mik's friends, and they probably won't say anything.
Also we could probably come up with something eventually to fully conceal it.

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>>37752410
>it

you done goofed anon. other people don't like it when you fuck up in the use of pronouns.

So is calling Zahak 'it' going to be the new 'Samjan are dark elves'?

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>>37752410
>Zahak use his dragon breath while under an "human" illusion

>>37752466
>Elves are so shit, right guys? Degenerates can't even fly.
But it'd just be pretending to be a dark elf, what's the point of insulting itself?

>>37752465
More likely

>>37752534
10/10