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All in all, operation stone tree worked out pretty well.

Regular trees don't have quite as much room. Or perfectly molded bannisters, preventing anyone from rolling free. They're prone to swaying in the wind, being full of other animals, all sorts of things.

You'd have to say that you prefer the smell of the regular trees, though. There's something to be said for the overlapping scents of the forest: Leaves new and old, the cool cutting smell of rushing water, wood, the wind carrying promises of all kinds.

You stretch in your artificial abode, cracking your neck and pulling an arm over your shoulder one at a time.

Sheszka is happy, healthy. Your friends are all similarly blessed. You are on your way home, an easier trip than the one that brought you out here.
You can probably even get home faster. Just have to watch out for the waterfall.

The morning sun is starting to creep across your boat/treehouse/stone tree/whatever.
What the wendigo see in their woods, you'll never know. Moss or not, even one day was all it took for you to miss the sun.

And now that Jin's personal fixation is rising, there's other matters to attend to.

Travel, for one.
Food, for another.

You might have eaten all the rations. And a bear.

In your defense, you are a giant spider. You were hungry.

You could probably use a bath, too.
Sniffing confirms it.

Several baths.

>Creep out. Catch some breakfast.
>Wake people up, break camp. You can last till lunch. Probably.
>Lay back, enjoy the morning. You don't really need to rush anywhere.
>Other (?)
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>>37287712
Announcements: twitter.com/REQMX

Q&A: ask.fm/REQM

Character Sheet and Misc:
http://pastebin.com/u/REQM

Archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Re-Monster
or
http://archive.moe/tg/search/tripcode/!!7fb3j+Ac+pZ%20/type/op/
or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rD-MZe51wYI63xxl-tG8dsxj-RWVtJu3S6Gzd6OTJSw/edit?usp=sharing
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>>37287712

> Create a bath of earth
> Feed it with the river
> Carve the inward channel to make a whirlpool
> Heat the water with molten spider butt

Jacuzzi bath time
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>>37287712
>Creep out. Catch some breakfast.
Gotta be stronk for rowing.
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>>37287712
>>Wake people up, break camp. You can last till lunch. Probably.
I theorize that if we work on spearing fish while we travel, we won't need to stop.

though, half a vote for this,
>Lay back, enjoy the morning. You don't really need to rush anywhere.
because our teammates might have had a point earlier.
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>>37287712
>Creep out. Catch some breakfast.
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>>37287712
>Wake people up, Catch some breakfast.
If they wake up and we're gone, our friends will worry.

Catch breakfast, catch extra to wrap as rations, then have a bath before setting off again?
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>>37287712
>Creep out. Catch some breakfast.
Catch enough for snacking along the way.
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>>37287751
I support jacuzzi bath time.
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>>37287712
>Creep out. Catch some breakfast.

If we move fast enough we can steal our family's lunch and get a bath earlier!
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>>37287712
>Creep out. Catch some breakfast
I want to fight something big and dangerous
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>>37287751
This, after breakfast
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Breakfast!
The most important meal of the day.

Baths come after making a mess of yourself.

Writing!
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Relaxation sounds good.
Relaxing in a hot bath sounds even better.

Of course, if you do that, you'll make a mess of yourself hunting. Or eating, more likely.

You sigh, glancing around your false treehouse.
Nope, nope, nope- ah. Lann looks almost awake. Close enough.

It doesn't take much to shake her awake, one eye sliding open as she brushes the hair from her face.
"Lyr- wha?"
"I am going hunting, yes? Breakfast. And I do not want people waking up worried."
"So you woke me up?"
"But now you aren't worried, yes?"

The elf grumbles a bit before she nods, pulling the blankets back over herself as you creep out of the nest-boat.

You're up early enough that there's still dew on the ground, your legs picking up water, rivulets running down the chitin. You should probably get something... other than bear. Lann might not have quite the same tolerance for eating things over and over as an actual carnivore does.

And maybe you could find some leaves or whatever for Nin. You've got vague memories of the shape and colour, if nothing else.

The forest air is crisp, the morning coolness slowly vanishing in the coming heat. The wind still carries the scent of the river- and beyond you, your scent as well. That's not going to be much help trying to catch things.

You slip through the trees, near silent as you walk. You'll get downwind a bit, circle back. Grab some food as you head to camp. Perfect.
You dip your body a little, scuttling lower as you creep into the woods.

>Rush-hunt. Run down anything in your way on the way back.
>Set some traps, look for leaves. Collect your catches and head back.
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
>Other (?)
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>>37288290
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
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>>37288290
>>Rush-hunt. Run down anything in your way on the way back.
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>>37288290
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.

Observation!
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>>37288290
>>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
I'm normally all for traps, but we're just passing through.
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>>37288290
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
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>>37288290

> Lay a web net over a section of the river
> Rush-hunt
While we are collecting food in an active fashion, a net will catch fish passing by.
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>>37288290
>Other (?)
Look for the biggest meanest motherfucker in this part of the woods
And eat him
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>>37288290
>>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
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>>37288290
>Rush-hunt. Run down anything in your way on the way back.
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>>37288290
>Set some traps as we head downwind. We can check them/drive things into them as we circle back.
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens.
Keep an eye out for berries or something. Moths and Elves eat berries, right?
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>>37288290
>Set some traps, look for leaves. Collect your catches and head back.
>Keep your eyes open as you hunt. Take it easy, get some meat and some greens. Not for you, of course.
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Hunting with six eyes open.
The most efficient eye placement of all time.

Please give me 3d100!
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Rolled 41, 95, 60 = 196 (3d100)

>>37288576
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Rolled 21, 59, 43 = 123 (3d100)

>>37288576
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Rolled 70, 27, 1 = 98 (3d100)

>>37288576
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Rolled 26, 27, 45 = 98 (3d100)

>>37288576

We don't even need eyes to see
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>>37288617
oops
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>>37288617
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>>37288617

Stupid potholes!
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>>37288617
We made Nin eat poison!
Back to the Wendigos!

More seriously, another gigantic monster fight should be fun.
And this time we won't even have to keep our lower level allies from getting poisoned.
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>>37288711

I imagine Nin chewing Lyra out:
> "Here you go Nin. I found some leaves while I was out."
> "Lyra, this is poison, yes."
> "Which ones?"
> "All of them!"
> "What, really? These berries?"
> "Hemlock"
> "These leaves?"
> "Poison ivy"
> "This piece of honeycomb"
> "That's a hornet's nest, and it appears to be filled with highly venemous spiders"
> [Screams externally]
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here i thought it was gonna be a good day.....
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>>37288878

Eh. Good rolls, bad rolls? A talented QM makes the best of both.
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>>37288875
>"Are you calling spiders venomous? That hurts Nin"
>"Lyra, you are venomous too...."
>"Oh."
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>>37288875
I would laugh.
Of course lyra is terrible at all non-hunting methods of food gathering. of COURSE.
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>>37288933
>"Lyra, you are venomous too...."
>"That is not very nice, Yes?"
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>>37288904
>>37288878

I mean, maybe Lyra will fall in a hole, land on her back, and Lann can laugh at her. Maybe she'll find something dangerous or poisonous and bring it back. Maybe she'll be outwitted by a rather dickish family of squirrels. There's a ton of fun ways to fuck up.
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>>37288617
"Sorry I didn't find anything edible"
"But you fought something right?"
"A 10 headed hydra, yes?"
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>>37288972

Maybe she'll accidentally step on and crush the house of a tiny Cockney Lamia...
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>>37289013
That sounds like an 100 to me.
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>Lyra finds a butterfly.
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Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>37289028

In another time, another land...
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>>37289051
Don't tell Nin.
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What was the thing we weren't supposed to tell elle?
Something about her kidnapping someone.
Was it the moth? Because of moth silk?
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>>37288933
>What are you saying, the fangs I inherited from my father are dangerous?
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>>37289182
Yes but she needs her own Motfu
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Step one is easy.

You get yourself downwind, scuttling through the undergrowth like an oversized crab.
Rabbits, wolves, and other innocent woodland creatures fall prey to your talons- No medium to large sized edible meat on legs is left to speak of your tyranny.

Satisfied with your work so far, you wrap your catch and leave it strung across your back.

Step two is to locate leaves. Or plants, whatever. Green stuff.
Stuff you will not be eating.

An hour later, you are certain about one thing:
You know absolutely nothing about plants.

Some leaves were too big. Some were ever so slightly off. Some were the wrong colour. Some died as soon as you tried to pick them, others actually flinched away from your hands.
What the hell kind of plant flinches? What kind of plant avoids people.
This is stupid.
Plants are stupid.

You stop back towards camp, smashing things out of your way.
You have food, you don't need to avoid noise.
And you will teach these stupid godsdamn trees a reason to flinch away from you.

Of course, sometimes, being a giant spider has disadvantages.

Like when you're trying to stomp your feet to show anger, but your feet are essentially giant armoured knives capable of lighting things on fire.
And that you can punch through stone easily with your hands, let alone your blade-feet.

So stomping is not actually a good idea for an arachne. At all.

Your foot sinks straight through the dirt, hitting a softer patch and throwing your balance- Legs flail as your momentum keeps you headed forwards, too fast to even properly get your hands up.
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>>37289592
You hurtle face first into a young tree- A comparatively young tree. As in, It's smaller than other trees.
In any case, it is sorely lacking in spider proof bark. Or roots.
Anything, really.

You smash into the tree like the face of an angry spider, bark cracking and wood snapping beneath your weight and strength, sending the tree into another and flattening it as branches splay in every direction, catching on anything in reach.

You lie there for a few moments, letting your anger drain out of you.
Noone saw you, at least. Your leg is fine- dirt isn't anywhere near enough to hurt you. Falling on it pulled it back out of the earth.

You're still facedown in the woods with no food for Nin, but life isn't always easy. Sometimes you face challenges, like not being able to identify simple shapes in nature.
You sigh again, and begin the process of picking yourself up.

There's a tiny snake, curled in the roots of a tree, maybe a meter away. It shifts side to side, swaying as it watches you.
More importantly, it's topped with a tiny human body instead of a snake face.

You freeze, your six eyes meeting a pair of slit ones.
"Are you an idiot?"

>Yes.
>No.
>Are you an idiot?
>What kind of introduction is that.
>Other (?)
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>>37289617
>>Yes.

"Normally I am just a Giant spider. But Today I woke up a bit of an idiot."
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>>37289617
>>No.
>What kind of introduction is that.
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>>37289617
My bad, I thought my message declaring rolls and writing had gone through.

whoops.
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>>37289617
>>Yes.
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>37289617
>Yes.
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>>37289617

>Ye-
>No.
>What kind of introduction is that.
>Are you an idiot?

Foolproof.
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>>37289617
"I am a Giant Spider."
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>>37289617
>No.
>What kind of introduction is that.

Aw man, it could have been a giant carnivorous plant or something.
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>>37289617
>Other (?)
Sometimes...
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>>37289617
>What kind of introduction is that.

We must be incredibly offended!
We are a queen, after all!
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>>37289686
>>37289617
"So, sometimes?"
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>>37289617
>Yes.
THE TIME HAS COME
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>>37289686
This.
This is the only answer.
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>>37289617

> No. I am a giant spider.
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>>37289617
>>Other (?)
No. I am a giant spider, yes?
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>>37289617

Oh crap, I think we really did just knocked over its house.
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>>37289617
>Other (?)
oh no somebody saw that
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>>37289784
Who needs a house when you can have an ever warm spider.
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>>37289617
>people trip sometimes
>What kind of introduction is that
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>>37289617
No. Am giant spider.
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>>37289792
.... or did they?
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>>37289617
>No.
>i'm a giant spider, yes
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>>37289617
>>No......Yes.....
The time has come brothers.....
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Counting!
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>>37289916
In b4 posh upper class Lamia speaking perfect Queen's English.
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>>37289989
Tiny llamas in tophats. Do want.
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>>37289617
>What kind of introduction is that.
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>>37289784

Well, seems she might not be Cockney. Otherwise it probably would have been something like:
> "Oi, you!"
> "Huh, me?"
> "Yeah you! The giant tart wif' the giant rump and a tiny brain! You wrecked my goddamn house, you tit!"
> "Wait, house?"
> "Right, my house! You know, that thing what used to not have a giant window in the front?"
[See where Lyra's head went smacking through the bark, exposing a tiny lamia living room]
> "Just got the damn thing how I wanted it! Punched a squirrel in the gob, for those digs, now I've got nuffin' to show for it, all because of some loomin' tart wif' more pounds than sense."
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>>37289998
With tiny monocles.
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Mixed answers everywhere, partials ties.

No takes it, but there'll be a lot more mixed in, apparently.

Writitng!
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>>37290012
That's because the Cockney tiny lamias live on elfbutt island. This here is Welsher tiny lamia country.
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>>37290012

> "I'm sorry I put a hole in your house, Ms. Snake!"
[Snake gets up in Lyra's face.]
> "I'll put a hole in your head, you grand knob... a small one. Probably roomy enough for a new house, by the sound of it and... Wait... Hold on a tic... Saint's alive you're warm..."
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>>37290159

> "I am a giant spider, yes."
> "You're a giant loon's what you are, but damned if I'm gonna wait around freezin' me tits off in the goddamn forest while you go prancin' off, wreckin' the rest of the neighborhood. Give us a lift, find me some new digs, and we'll be square."
> "I'm not sure I..."
> "Did I stutter!? Move it ya tit!"
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>>37290325
"What is a tit, yes? Is it a naga thing?"
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>>37290351
Uh, we have tits, man. They're not big, but Jin snuggled against them once.
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>>37287712
REQM, last thread you posted a guide for QMs
it mentioned Questionable Questing as a site for quests, i have been searching for it but i can't find it (although i found things mentioning it, like tvtropes about a "fanfic" (quest) that ran on it)
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>>37290159
>Oh, youve got a fever. Yeah, that's it.
>No, I-
>Nah, thats definitely it. And Im coldblooded, I am. So Ill just curl up round your neck there, cool you off.
>I-
>Dont worry, I got this.
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>>37290351

> "A tit's that right there."
[Points to a bird on a branch.]
> "Then again, tit's don't go tearin' up trees in a pisser and knock people's goddamn houses down. Give me a while, love, I'll come up with somefin' right and proper for what you are."
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>>37290385
The point
>
>
>
You.

Also we know what that guild boss meant when saying that 'Lann and that arachne are together'. Didn't stop us from trolling mom.
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>>37290439
We made that joke because we knew it would fluster Mom.
Not so here.
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>>37290416
>"Love? We've just met, yes? It's so sudden, I have to prepare myself mentally..."
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We need to make our tiny friend tiny weapons
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>>37290483
What stops Lyra from being a troll? Except that thing where she's an arachne.
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>>37290387
That was just the old general thread guide, and more to the point, QQ as just included for completeness.

If I remember correctly, it's a forum rather than an imageboard, with all the negatives that would imply.
You're best off running a quest here or on anonkun.
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>>37290351
>Naga
How dare you.
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>>37290416
>>37290487

> "Also, I said I was sorry, yes."
> "Damn right you are, but sorry don't build houses. Now get a move on, and mind the tits ya tit!"
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>>37290535
I am not looking to run on QQ, I am looking to read the quests on QQ, some of them sound interesting, but I can't find its address.
I find a ton of stuff related to CRPGs rather than questing
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>>37290351
Nagga please!
Also, don't call her a naga or a lamia, ask her what she is. Because they are seriously offended when you mix the two
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>>37290677
http://forum.questionablequesting.com/
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>>37290677
forum dot questionable questing dot com

No thanks needed, fellow traveller. Good luck.
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>>37290677
http://forum.questionablequesting.com

I think you need an account to access at least the NSFW part of the content (which is almost all of it, regardless of whether they ever got that far).
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>>37290706
>>37290718
thank you
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"What? I-"
"It's a simple question, right?"
"I am not an idiot!"
"Oh, so it's normal to smash trees with your face where you come from?"

"I tripped, yes! It was an-"
"Eight legs and you can't keep your feet?"
"This is not- Are you an idiot?! What kind of introduction is this?!"

"Introductions are where you tell people your names, web spinner. I'm just trying to figure out why you're knocking over trees with your face."
"It was an accident! AN AC-CI-DENT!"
"Well that makes it all better, right."

"I tripped! I am a giant spider! I am sorry that I am too big for a tiny tree!"
"Oh, is it the tree's fault for being tiny now!"
"What is your problem! Are you trying to start a fight?!"
"You think you can take me in a fight, then?!"
"Was that your house? Is that what this is?"

"I'm a snake! I don't live in trees like an idiot!"
"Oh, so idiots live in trees then! Do you live in the dirt, idiot snake?"
"Don't call my house dirt!"
"ITS A TINY DIRT HOUSE FOR A TINY DIRT SNAKE!"
"SHUT UP! STOP SAYING TINY! IDIOT SPIDER! MORON SPIDER!"
"TINY TINY TINY TINY-"
"IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT-"

"What in any God's name are you doing?"

Both of you look left, panting and red faced.
There's an older, and larger snake-lady. Still small, though.

>She insulted me!
>Sorry.
>Hello?
>Other (?)
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>>37291265
>>She insulted me!
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>>37291265
>She insulted me!
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>>37291265
>Sorry.
>Hello?
Of course. Among two different snakebutts, Lyra would without fail find the teenage one.
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>>37291265
>>She insulted me!
I love it when people give Lyra guff.
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>>37291265
>>Hello?
>>I am Lyra yes

Greetings and introductions first are proper
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>>37291265
>Hello, yes?
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>>37291265

> She started it!
> Wait, sorry, I am Lyra.
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>>37291265

>"ITS A TINY DIRT HOUSE FOR A TINY DIRT SNAKE!"
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>>37291265

>She insulted me!
>...
>Sorry.
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>>37291265
>>Hello?
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>>37291265
>Hello?
>Other make with the introductions.

captcha: moffo
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>>37291265
>Hello?
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>>37291265
>Sorry.
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>>37291265
>She insulted me!
I love it when Lyra is being childish.
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>>37291265
>Other (?)
Nothin'!
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>>37291265

>TinySnek get's Lyra's anger up
>Nothing up to this point has been able to do it besides dead monsters

We have found the OTP.
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>>37291265
>"TINY TINY TINY TINY-"
>"IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT-"
My sides are killing me.
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>>37291265
>Hello?

>what in any gods name are you doing?
exchanging pleasantries and getting to know one another.
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>>37291265
>Hello?
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we should show how we can build better dirt houses then the dirt snakes
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>>37291265
>She insulted me!
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>>37291265
oh god my sides.
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>>37291265
>Hello?
Let's pretend we didn't just slip and act our physical age.
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You know I get the feeling that Lyra wasn't a particularly mature person before she died.

Is this how you saw her turning out REQM? Arguing with tiny dirt snakes
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Counting!
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>>37291453
You forget about Nin's ability to rustle Lyra's jimmies.
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>>37291566
I guess you could say she was a trainwreck.
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>>37291582
Nin just makes us exasperated.
Tiny snek got us to a level of anger reserved for particularly nasty bears.
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>>37291582

That is exasperation, not getting the blood boiling.

They both work.
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>>37291265
Made my day
>She insulted me!
>Sorry.
>Hello?
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>>37291568
Is the older snake actually small or jut small in comparison to a giant spidergirl?
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>>37291265
>"SHE INSULTED ME! .....Er, sorry. I mean hello, I am a Giant Spider."
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>>37291608
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We've made spidersilk clothes for everyone else right? We need to make a tiny breast band and skirt.
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Nearly neck and neck between Hello and She insulted me!
Hello pulls ahead for the photo finish!

Writing!

>>37291668
Pretty small. Long, but pretty small.
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>>37291621
And wizards.
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>>37291937

Maybe she's a tiny snake wizard. Granted their lack of physical prowess, maybe they make good mages?
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>>37292103
Tiny snake assassin. One bite will spell doom.
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>>37292103

perhaps they are alchemists?
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>>37292103

Or diplomats?
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>>37292103
Or perhaps she can open her mouth in four to eat larger prey whole
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>>37292176
Does it cause the victim to laugh himself to death?
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It takes a few moments for your brain to snap back to reality, between the rattling the tree delivered and all the yelling.
You spend a few uncomfortable seconds just staring at the snake, mouth open, before you draw it closed with a snap.
You take a deep breath.

"Hello, yes?"
"Hello."
"She insulted me!"

Your head snaps back around to the younger looking snake.
"What-"
"Said I was a tiny dirt snake-"
"You started it!"
"Did not!"
"You said I was an idiot!"
"You are an idiot, idiot!"
"I AM NOT-"

"STUPID SPIDER RUNNING INTO TREES-"
"DIRT RAT SNAKE-"
"Esmerelda."

The little snake freezes, slowly turning back to the woman.

"I- uh- She-"
"What-"
She looks between the two of you, emphasizing each word.
"-Exactly Happened Here."
"Uh-"

"So help me, small scales, if you lie-"
"Nuh- I- She ran into a tree!"

The lady's gaze swings back to you, meeting your eyes.
"You ran into a tree?"
"I tripped, yes?"

She blinks, folding her arms, curling a bit further into the air.
"How did an Arachne trip?"

You blush, looking down.
"I- ah. I was frustrated, and stomping, yes? And my foot went right through the dirt."
"I see. And you knocked down the tree?"
"Yes."

Her gaze slides back to the younger snake.
"And then?"
"Then, I- uh. I asked her a question."
"And what was the question?"
"Um."

"Esmerelda."
"I, ah, asked her if she was an idiot."
The woman sighs.
"And why are you making fun of children?"

The little snake sputters.
"Whuh- I'm not! Look at her!"
"She can't be more than a few months old. If that."
"What! But she's-"

Her hands go up, tracing a giant circle in the air.
"You're small. And her face is young, even if she is the wrong colour."
She turns again.
"And you, what are you doing so far from home, spider?"

>My friend was sick, yes?
>I am not that young.
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
>Other (?)
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, so I went to see the Wendigo. I heard they were good healers, yes?
Put them in a loop. And seems Esmerelda is older than us.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
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>>37292280
>>My friend was sick, yes?
>>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.

We should tell them we aren't even two months yet.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?

A tiny snake bullying children.
This is just too adorable for words.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>I am not that young.
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>>37292280
>"I am not that young, I am more than a month old, yes!"
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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>>37292280
>>My friend was sick, yes?
Honesty!
And a good story if they ask!
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
Followed by
>I am not that young. At least a few weeks old.
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
>I am not that young.
A few weeks even.
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>>37292280
>I'm not that young
>try not to pout
>pout anyway
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>>37292280
>My friend was sick, yes?
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
>I am not that young.
I forgot how old we are. Say almost X Weeks, proudly.
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>>37292280
>Travelling down the river, yes? Stopped for food.
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My friend was sick!
Attempt to portray yourself as mature!
Got it.

Writing!
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>>37292603

Just to clarify, it seems the intention is to make Lyra boast her actual age. The choice "You are not that young" seems to imply we would be lying and saying we were older than a couple of months (which we aren't).
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>>37292280
>You're small.
So Esmerelda is small even for tiny dirt snakes.
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>>37292688
Yes, we will stand tall and proudly boast that we are almost SEVEN WEEKS OLD!

And they should show us the proper level of respect.
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>>37292712
I think she simply hasn't evolved yet.
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>>37292712
Maybe if she ate like us she would grow more.

I'm actually pretty amused by a "giant lamia" being like 5ft when she's rearing up
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>>37292945

>Giant lamia is baby Naga.
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Goodnight y'all, hope youl are successfull in adding her to the harem
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Remember anons. Just like Moths and Butterfly's, Lamia and Naga's take great offence if called the other... and technically we do not have confirmation on which one they are...
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>>37292603
>Attempt to portray yourself as mature!
"I am not a child! I am an adult! I am 5 weeks old!"
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>>37293073
yea, don't call them either... do ask what they are
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>>37293164
You have to be more clever about it!
Boast about being a Forgesworn Grave Arachne to tempt the tiny snake into counter boasting what species she is.
That way you can avoid the imptession that you don't actually know which of the two they are.
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>>37293254

I'm not sure how much meta would be in that statement.
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>>37293254
>That way you can avoid the imptession that you don't actually know which of the two they are.
I explicitly said its not "which of the two", its "which of the infinite". don't indicate that you know what a lamia or a naga is.
"I only saw moths, werewolves, lizards, arachne, harpies, and wendigo in the forest so far... what are you?"
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>>37293254
That is meta as hell, we dont know lamia and naga take great offense at being confused for the other.
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>>37293365
Nin told us that earlier.

Like, last thread.
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>>37293378
she did? must have missed that conversation completely then.

and it still seems out of character, we are direct if nothing else in our questions.
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>>37293365
What >>37293378 said.

Besides, the dream voice explicitly told us what we are in the same breath as it told us which blessings we got.
And given that we remember it telling us of the blessings, it stands to reason that we remember the species.
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You decide that you have spent long enough on the ground, pulling your legs beneath you and standing up again.
Which leaves you towering over the snakes, and causes the younger to purse her lips in frustration.
Hah!

"My friend was sick, yes? We took her up the river, to see a healer."
Eyebrows go up.
"You went to the wendigo? Through the circle?"

You frown, your tone defensive.
"I am almost two months old, yes."
"WHAT-"
"Hush, Ezzy. You already went, you said?"

You nod.
"Yes. We are going back down the river now- We stopped to sleep, and I came to get food."
"We? Have you spent too much time with harpies, little one?"
"Little one- Are we looking at the same- Mpmpmmpmmmmph."

The older snake has slithered up to the younger, clamping a hand over her mouth. She smiles, nodding in your direction for you to continue.

You stare for a moment, before you remember to move your mouth.
"I- yes? But no. I mean- I spend time with harpies, yes? A harpy. But my friends are with me. My sister, too."
"Ahhh. An older sister, then."
"No, I am the oldest, yes."
"How are you-?"
"By a few minutes."
"Ah."

The woman looks you up and down- mostly up, though.
She taps the side of her face with one hand, tucked beneath her chin. Her other remains affixed to the younger's face.

"You are wrong."
"Wha-"
She shakes her head.
"All sorts of wrong. Too big, the wrong colour. And skulls are not clothes, child. What would your mother say?"

Your face colours, but you manage to shake your head.
"I am not- It is not clothes, yes? I have grown. I have grown twice!"

Both snake's eyes grow wide- The elder even forgets to keep her hand fixed.
"You bloody what- How is that fair! This isn't fair! Twice?!"
"Ezzy."
"I haven't even grown once yet! You said it takes time!"
"It does take time."
"Then how has she gone and-"
"Ezzy. I do not know."

You shift uncomfortably.

>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
>Stay quiet.
>Other (?)
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
I get big because I hunt and eat. You need to eat some too.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
>I am a giant spider yes
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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>>37293705
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
Im not the only one.
>>37293779
yes
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
diffuse the situation with food, because who can be mad with a full belly.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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It's kind of sad we're going to surprise exactly no one by wandering out of the forest with new friends. We were bound to either come out with something we either befriended or beat the shit out of. (Sheska won the lottery and got to be both)
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>>I know it is strange, but it's true.
So do we add snake charmer to our list of titles when she joins the party?
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
Always be friendly.
>Other (?)
If it makes you feel better, nobody else knows why either.
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>>37293705
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?

"My mother says I find trouble too easily.... and there was the training...."
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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>>37293834
Charmer of snakes, anon
Gotta be classy.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>I know it is strange, but it's true.
>Other:
"My friends, they have grown, too. And my sister."
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
>Other (?)
It does take time... for most people.
My mother only beat my to her second evolution by a day yes?
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>>37293885
This, the look on her face will be priceless.
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>>37293705
>>Would you like to join us for breakfast?

When we introduce them we need to refer to them as the nice Lady and dirt snake
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>>37293849
>If it makes you feel better, nobody else knows why either.
Oh, Lyra knows why because she's a meta-gaming faggot.
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>>37293705

> Let them argue it out for a second
> "I am strange, yes, but please join us for breakfast."
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>>37293705
>"My mother says it is because I keep fighting things I have no business fighting, yes."
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>>37293827

But of course.

It's like you think it's NOT normal for Giant Spiders to make friends out of everything they don't kill and eat.
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>>37293705
>Would you like to join us for breakfast?
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>>37293705
>I know it is strange, but it's true. .
Well, I have gone on lots of adventures, yes.
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>>37293940
Isn't that what a friend is? Someone you don't want to kill and eat?
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Looks like it's breakfast time.

Writing!
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>>37293985
Pretty much, though some things deserve to be killed and are too yucky to eat.
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Holy crap, did tiny sneks ever bring out the voters.
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>>37293985

Eh, it's not a prerequisite, I personally think Harpy legs would be delicious.
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>>37294151

We can't even use the "It has a face!" or "It's a sapient creature!" excuse because the first we ever hunted were Red Gnomes, and we have eaten a LOT of Lizardmen.
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>>37294030
>Poor snakes, they are going to be a harpys breakfast.
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>>37293985
>>37294151
We don't eat things which are our friends because then they wouldn't be our friends anymore.
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>>37294128
48 unique IPs in the thread.
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>>37294151
eating sentient creatures corrupts you Anon, REQM has confirmed that.
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>>37294292
Lizardmen.

We have eaten a lot of them.
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>>37294311
>Lizardmen.
>Sentient
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>>37294311
And he said that it was a good thing we stopped, it corrupts you.
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>>37294292
If you make it a habit.
The occasional harpy leg wouldn't hurt. Just to try it.

>>37294311
Well a lot is exegerrated, 4-5. They don't taste very good.

>>37294325
Good old Spider racism.
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>>37294311
Just that one time, and we didn't eat that many.

Just once won't corrupt us, but if we'd made it a habit..... We wouldn't have liked our evolution.
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>>37294343
You missed the part where all the harpies in the area are friends/family of best girl.

I'm pretty sure Jin wouldn't like that.
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>>37294343
And why would we eat a harpy,
Murder hoboes pls go.
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>>37294292

No, eating sentient creatures is fine, making it your primary diet, or even a large part of your diet, is not fine.

It's like, we can eat a handful every now and again if we need to, but the moment it becomes a core foundation or even a preferred kind of sustenance, it's a major issue.
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>>37294311
We ate two, two is not a lot
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>>37294378
Not to mention it's a massive taboo. Our friends, family and other Arachne and Harpies would be disgusted by that.

Spidermom would beat us like a red headed Elf child.
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>>37294393

We are discussing whether or not Harpy legs would be delicious, not about whether or not we would eat a harpy.
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>>37294414
REQM Could you clarify this?
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>>37294335
I wished people wouldn't use actual information and then add their personal preferences on top. He didn't say it was good we stopped, because Lyra never rellay "stopped", it just didn't come up again.
And he also said if you "gorge" yourself on sentients. And that implies a whole lot more then a occasional meal. It means, if you habitually eat sentients, that is when it gets bad.
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>>37294444
They would be delicious. But they are for licking, not biting.
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Look at all these retarded Moral fags, trying to ruin this quest like they do with all the others.
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>>37294452

Last I checked, he did not stipulate quantity as a part of the prerequisite for degenerate evolution. He simply left it at, "Don't eat sentient creatures. You will not like what you become."
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>>37294452
>And gorging yourself on sentients of any kind would be bad. Eating one or two because they attacked ou is one thing
He already did.
Gorging=Bad
Occasional=Not so bad
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>>37294509
>>37294462

Still bad, why should we do it at all, any time we to we're risking crossing the invisible line.
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>>37294508
You remember wrong. He said "if we kept eating sentients"
He never said "don't eat sentients", because it was never our specific choice to begin with.
Just shut it already aboutt his stupid shit.
Spiders occasionally eat lizards when they kill them because they don't consider them people. Simple as that. Gorging yourself and habitually sentient eating is bad, occasional is not.
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>>37294240
Anon did you miss the resolution of that in ask.fm where it turns out lyra decided not to eat sapient shit and feels kind of bad about it?

Stop trying to shoehorn in your weird cannibalism fetish.
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>>37294557
that is a fair point
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>>37294557
Because Lyra has no idea aboutt hat.
Its pure metagaming. She wouldn't eat most sentients for the same reason you usually wouldn't, but those her mother told are okay to eat, she would.
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>>37294559
Didn't he say that mom wouldn't be happy if she knew we'd been eating lizards?
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>>37294557

Eating that stupid fuck that thought it was a good idea to attack a giant spider that was hungry and lazy is a lot different than eating a person that hasn't done anything because we are hungry, or digging up corpses and eating them.
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>>37294596
she also felt bad, so sayeth the ask.

there's no reason to go after things that make us feel shitty to eat.
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>>37294585
Something said somewhere on a ask.fm has no relevance to the quest, Lyra had absolutely no issues with it last time it came up, and until it actually comes up in the story, thats the last info we got on it.
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>>37294596
I don't think mom ever told us it was okay.
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>>37294559
>Spiders occasionally eat lizards when they kill them because they don't consider them people. Simple as that
False. spiders know very well that they are people and do consider them people
Our family is not an indication of all spiders ever
And we ate them because they were already dead and we didn't want to waste the meat
And they were already dead because we killed them in self defense
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>>37294496
so, are the only people who are pro-eating people trolls?
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>>37294595

God I hope so, but I think I recognize this person from another quest. He's usually serious, and that's downright pitiable.
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>>37294638
She ate them with us. Everytime we ate lizards was when we brought them to the nest.

>>37294640
I fail to see your point? Yes spiders don't go out to hunt lizards to eat them.
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Since when did sentient mean sapient?

All animals are sentient, goddammit.
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>>37294608
Not biologically, it's still a person, it doesn't matter if they're a retard, kill them but no eating.
>>37294634
>Something the QM says has no relevance to the quest.
U wot m8
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>>37294634
Ask.fm clarified lyra did have issues about it.
Don't be grumpy because your side got salty enough to ask the QM directly and they shut you down. just accept it and move on.
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>>37294663
Seems like.
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Why is this even an issue? We barely even meet anything sentient, let alone kill them, and even then a meal is one hunting check away. It's like you're arguing about how to get coal in fucking Newcastle.
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>>37294694
>Autism speaks.
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Well, cannibal trolls aside, it's good to meet some little snakes.
>>37294725
my best guess is either trolls or weird fetishists.
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>>37294694
Sentient is taken to mean sapient in this context.
If you want to bitch about semantics know that no one else cares.
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>>37294725
People for some reason think we have to eat anything we kill.
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>>37294703

No, this is fucking magical biology, intent means a fuck-ton more than you seem to think.

Hunting down sentients and eating them? Not okay, eating the sentients that tried to kill you simply because you don't want to waste the meat or spend more effort hunting after a battle to sate your hunger? Okay.
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>>37294679
>>>False statements
>>Corrections
>I fail to see your point?
I didn't have a "point", I wasn't picking a side in this stupid argument. Anon made false statements and I corrected them. nothing more, nothing less.
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>>37294602
Spidermon -Arachne in general- wouldn't raise a fuss about eating the odd Lizard that picked a fight with us.

Intentionally hunting them for food as part of a regular diet wouldn't be considered cool.
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>>37294608
they were attacking a CHILD giant spider, in a group, and they were armed, and if we weren't so badass they could have killed us.
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>>37294776
Well, that's directly against what has already been clarified, and thus ignorable.
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>>37294747

>A situation that has come up in the past and WILL come up in the future is being discussed
>Trolls or weird fetishists.

Shut the fuck up, I'm advocating against the cannibalism in any shape and form because Lyra was a HUMAN before being a spider, and I think you are fucking retarded.
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>>37294776
Why risk it, its stupid, we could easily eat something else.
Please take your vore fetish back to /d/
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>>37294829
The guy was calling the pro-cannibals weird fetishists.
Because that's what they come off as.
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>>37294725
It is actually not. Moralfags that weren't around for the early quest, are just incapable of dealing with the fact that Lyra ate sapient beings and need to throw a massive hissy fit every time it comes up. Because then lyra would be a monster-person and not their kawaii uguu~ waifu.

And in their silly rage they can't grasp that "eating something that I killed in self-defense" and "hunting something to eat it" are completly different things.
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This is- Well.
You'd think you'd be used to this by now.

Nope, turns out having strange people stare at you in some mixture of fear and awe is awkward as can be.

People staring because you're a spider is livable. Mostly fun, too. Click your legs, blink all your eyes stare back. People staring, not afraid of the spider-ness but... The fact that you've done something supposedly impossible, and it makes them nervous?

It's not really something you can deal with in the same way.

You reach one hand up, brushing loose hair from your face, tucking it behind a pointed ear. Fine. Fine!
You can work with this. It's just a matter of making people not scared, right?

"Ah-"
Both blink, their trance broken, and they look up at you, meeting your eyes.
"I have food, yes? Enough for many people."
"Is it enough for you, though?"
"Esmerelda."

"Um. Yes? Would you like to come join us for breakfast? We will not be long before we set out again, yes."
"We're a little small to be eating your food, aren't we?"
"You can cut food, yes."
"And you think I can use your knife or something-"
"Then I can cut it. Everything does not need to be difficult!"
"I-"
"Yes."

"Huh?"
"Wha-"

You both look to the older snake, again.
"We'll come along. A free breakfast doesn't come along every day."
"Uh- Fine. Yeah, we'll go."

Even snakes roll their eyes, apparently.
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>>37294886
Yeah, seems like only trolls are on the cannibal side.
See how they use charged terms and insist they were the only ones around since the beginning? Classic troll tech.
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>>37294694
>Since when did sentient mean sapient?
since it was first defined in the 18th century. the notion of seperating sapience from it is very recent (a few decades at most) and hasn't universally caught on. Keep in mind that english is a living language with no central regulating authority
>All animals are sentient, goddammit.
except for the ones who aren't, such as worms that literally have no brain
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>>37294903
"Well then- Excuse me."
"Hah?"

The older snake slithers across the broken tree, leaning her upper body into the movements- She reaches your leg and twists around it, spiralling up the chitin, across the leg and onto your back.
You blink.

"You didn't think we could keep pace with you, did you dear?"
"Ah. I didn't really think about it, yes?"
"Mhm. Hurry up, Ezzy."

The smaller snake is standing (coiling?) next to your leg, frowning.
"I- You know I have trouble climbing like that!"
"Well you won't get any better like that."
"Mom!"
"Little one, If I may trouble you-?"

You nod, bending double and offering an open hand.
The snake scowls at it, but she wraps her arms around your wrist, her tail curling around and around your fingers.

You pull her up, and she slides off, twisting herself up next to her mother- You give them a moment to settle before you set off for the river.
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>>37293985
Oh look, it's this discussion again.
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I'm starting to get annoyed that the main argument for No Cannibalism isn't "Because it affects our evolution" but "Take your fetish elsewhere, you vorefag."

In the setting this setting is based off of, fucking VAMPIRES and other various non-pure cannibalistic evolutions come from consuming at least part of sapient creatures.
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>>37294938
>That's it for tonight!
>Next session will likely be monday! I have given up on declaring times beforehand.
>Comments, questions and Concerns answered in thread!
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>>37294914
There is no cannibal side. You are just being silly.
At no point did anyone ever vote for eating spapients.
Lyra did that on her own, without player input. And all the supposed "cannibal-side" is saying is that Lyra has eaten sapients. No one ever advocated hunting down sapients specifically to eat them, thats just something you guys claim to drag the argument down into moralism.
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>>37294953
The main arguments were already gone over in detail the first time this came up. Then the QM also agreed that cannibalism was a bad idea.

Now anyone being pro-cannibalism actively is just a poor sport, and is treated as such.
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>>37294829
I agree, I think they're idiots, not trolls or fetishists.
>>37294886
It's not even a moral thing, eating other beings is stupid, hunting is easy for us, it would take five minutes to find something else.
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>>37294938
How long till they realize that we're perfectly warm and a better home than any old dirt pile.
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food for thought
Cannibalism is
1. the usually ritualistic eating of human flesh by a human being
2. the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of the same kind

As such unless Lyra decide to eat another giant spider it wouldn't be cannibalism.
Not that I agree with eating anyone at the moment
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>>37294978
Thanks for running, boss.
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>>37295009
It's already too late
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>>37295009
Considering we're probably going to go at a speed that will leave Esmeralda scared to death, I think it will be a while.
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>>37295031
Too late for what? I'm hoping for exactly that.
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>>37294776
basically this
>>37294854
>Why risk it
than again it is a good point. if there is some magic corruption from cannibalism, why even risk toeing the line. Yes, it is a waste to just leave the meat of those you kill to rot. but fuck it, we can waste on occasion, just go hunt a delicious succulent bear
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>>37294978
thanks for running, guy.
No real questions, just kind of disappointed at the poor sportsmanship of the folk bringing up these things again.
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>>37295001
>It's not even a moral thing, eating other beings is stupid, hunting is easy for us, it would take five minutes to find something else.
No one disagrees with that. No one says we should hunt sapients to eat them. Thats stupid. The moralfaggotry comes in when people pretend anyone even argues for that in the first place.
All people ever said was eating sapient things we alreeady killed in self-defense, as Lyra has already done.There are just some people who can't handle that all of a sudden, even though back then no one cared, and need to make a huge argument out of it.
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>>37295001

I don't even think they are idiots, It's a perfectly valid source of nutrition if necessary and affects future evolutions if concentrated effort is put into it -IF we wanted to go down that path.

Which we don't, because Lyra is going to be a Metal Spider, not Vampire Spider.
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>>37294978

Thanks for running good sir. Always a pleasure, though it seems things are running a little heated in the audience cross banter.
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>>37295071
I didn't care much before, then I thought about it, then I cared.
I'm sorry that your only response to that is "muh moralfags".
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>>37295014
>Autism.
The meaning of the word doesn't change anything..
>>37295071
You missed the point, eating a sentient being we've already killed is stupid, we can easily get something else.
>>37295072
It's the fact that they blatantly ignore the risks that makes them idiots
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>>37295139
There is no risk unless it become our main diet
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>>37294978
Can you please just deal with this crap.
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If you people want to eat guys so much, you should go play that hollow quest.
You'll fit right in!
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>>37295009
What makes you think snakes aren't master architects?

>>37295015
>>37295059
>>37295089
Thanks for playing!

Arguments are just a part of quests. People will sort out their feelings and it'll all work out.
I mean, when elfdad came back, the thread ran a bit hot. This is comparatively minor.
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>>37295139
>eating a sentient being we've already killed is stupid, we can easily get something else
But why would we, if we already have something?
And don't go with but muh evolution, because Lyra doesn't know about that. And I don't give ashit about your metagaming.
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>>37295172
He already tried, they refuse to stop apparently.
>>37295192
It's already been declared that lyra had second thoughts about that kind of thing. Get over it.
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I love how the exact same people who argue with the evolution thing, would in other quests whine about evil metagaming.
Its delicious.
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>>37295192
>That said, they didn't taste particularly great, and now that she's had time to think on it, she won't be doing it again.
Deal with it.
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>>37295171
Prove it, at what point do you think it magically stop being safe and how the duck is that worth the risk.
>>37295192

>Muh metagaming.
>Muh moral fags.
>muh food
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>>37295071
>No one disagrees with that. No one says we should hunt sapients to eat them
Are you retarded or just can't read? The anon you replied to explicitly did not say anything about hunting sapients.
He said EATING them is STUPID (regardless of morality) due to the corruption mechanic, because it will take 5 minutes to hunt a non sapient to eat instead.
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>>37295230
>>37295260
see
>>37295254
She ICly doesn't wanna do it any more.
Whether or not you dislike that doesn't change it.
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>>37295211

Lyra has second thoughts, yes, those come from her being human in a past life and having that morality carry over, but her sisters and brothers and possibly lesser-civilized friends like Sheszka don't have those. A lizard-man corpse is a batch of food that tastes off.
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>>37295211
>He already tried, they refuse to stop apparently.
You dop realise the anti-cannibalism guys were the ones who asked? Because no one else cared enough.
REQM was the one who made Lyra eat Lizards in the first place. They had no reason to ask him. And I can fully understand them no caring about some thing that was said on the ask.fm, when it has literally no tie into the story itself.
I'd be very disappointed in REQm as a storywriter if he didn't use this chance for Lyra to have a real moment when she meets a civilized lizard.
This off-screen hand-waving is simply beneath him.
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>>37295306
It was the pro-cannibalism guys who were so salty they needed to ask the QM about it.
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>>37295182
If they were master architects then why live in piles of dirt?
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>>37295299
Are we playing everyone else or are we playing Lyra?
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>>37295323
Why would they? REQM brought the cannibalism in in the first place.

It was the anti-cannibalism that were salty. Because REQM made Lyra acannibal to begin with.
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>>37295331

We are discussing the merits of cannibalism of Monster-races in a magical world where evolution and control of the elements manifests overnight via a bright light.
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>>37295260
When we start eating sentient being for almost every meal I'll start worry, but every once in a while is no big deal. Orcs are the closest we'll have to pork for a while if we find them anyways
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>>37295360

You mean Santa.
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>>37295361
>EAting orcs
Fucking disgusting.
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>>37295353
The fuck are you talking about? Read the thread in question again.

There's literally no reason for you to be talking about this by your logic, but here you are.
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>>37295323
Its the anti-cannibalism guys who made argument out of something that will most likely never come up again. So I'd say they are the salty ones here.
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>>37295389

>Wasting bacon simply because it stands up right and can use an axe.
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>Cannibalism
Holy fuck you guys, quit using that word wrong.
Cannibalism would be us eating other arachne.
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>>37295389
Orc are pigmen in the setting.
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>>37295400
>please stop bringing this up you guys
>NO SHE WAS A CANNIBAL IT WILL TOTALLY COME UP AGAIN
At least now you agree that this shit won't come up again. Progress.
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We're being trolled.
You all understand that, right?
'People' are just making opposite arguments and flinging around the word cannibal for instant reactions.
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>>37295390
He claimed the "cannibalism guys", even though there is no such thing, made that question on the ask.fm. When clearly they didn't and had no reason to.
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>>37295400
It's the cannibalfags who want the ignore the stated risk because of laziness.
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>>37295439
They were angry because we gave numerous IC reasons why we shouldn't be eating lizardmen again.
Then they asked the QM, who lo and behold, didn't want more of that stuff in his game.
Then they were so mad they decided to dispute it, YET AGAIN.

They seem pretty motivated to push this issue. The real question is whether it's salt, fetish, troll, or dumb.
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>>37295441
out of curiosity, do we know in character about the possibility of such corruption?
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>>37295441
>ignore the stated risk
A risk stated for the players. Which Lyra is not aware of. Its called. Role-playing.
I know /tg/b can't handle actual role-playing, but lets pretend for a second here, okay?

Even if there WERE "cannibal guys" in this thread, instead of people just making a observation of Lyras behavior, they'd be right, because Lyra isn't aware of any of those arguments.
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>>37295413
I pointed it out and was called an autist, you shouldn't bother

>>37295441
>Stated Risk
The only risk is a strange evolution, we are too strong to be a ghoul so we'd end up a higher level undead of unknown specification.
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>>37295487
>role playing
ah, so you're done with the issue, as
>That said, they didn't taste particularly great, and now that she's had time to think on it, she won't be doing it again.
right?
you'll just fucking drop it because ICly we're not doing it any more, right?
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>>37295435
Oh for fuck sake, I say we have lyra march into that village and eat everyone just to piss off these fucking babies.
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>>37295389

But, we might gain Orc powers...
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>>37295508
Can you maybe go to hollow quest or something else more your speed?
This is a pretty light hearted quest that tries to avoid these issues becoming very dark.
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>>37295482
>we gave numerous IC reasons
All of which obviously didn't matter to Lyra, because she ate Lizards twice.
So they can't have been that good.

This all started out because >>37294292
couldn't handle the joke of "harpy legs would be delicious", which was a obviously lewd joke, not cannibalism.
So its pretty clearly the anti-guys who are the salty ones, because they brought it up again.
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>>37295508

But that's not what we want, if the village tried to kill us for some reason or another, and we were exhausted and hungry, then we might pick a corpse or two out of the pile to go and regain energy.
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>>37295507
Something stated in the ask.fm, is not role-playing the character. We wouldn't even know that if it wouldn't have been asked.
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>>37295558
Obviously they did matter to lyra, because
>That said, they didn't taste particularly great, and now that she's had time to think on it, she won't be doing it again.

also, see
>>37294240
the literal FIRST response to the harpy thing.

Your side was salty enough to try to start the argument. Stop being trolls.

Stop being mad about this. She doesn't want to eat more folk. That's it.
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>>37295488
>Implying being undead isn't bad.
>implying spider mom wouldn't disown us.
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>>37295558

I made the Harpy-legs joke, and it was both lewd and non-lewd joke oriented, one for Dat Backside~ and one for chicken drumsticks.
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>>37295508
I just want Lyra to eat Lann? Is that so bad?
I'm sure she would enjoy it too!
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>>37295590
The ask.fm told us how lyra ICly feels about this.
That wasn't meta information. That was information on what lyra decided.

Declaring "it doesn't count!" confirms all the salt accusations about you.
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>>37295598
Well yeah, but the only undead we even know about are ghoul and Vampire which have nothing to do with eating sentient people anyways.
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>>37295508
>>37295551

I'm pretty much of this guy's mind. You seem familiar in the worst possible ways, and I am a fan of this quest mostly because the audience keeps things civil and productive.
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>>37295590
You are literally arguing against something the QM himself stated as fact. Give it the fuck up already.
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>>37295643

Does anyone have the goblin flow chart from Re: Monster?
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>>37295594
>the literal FIRST response to the harpy thing.
Yes.. and all of these things are factually true...
Sometimes I have hard time telling if you people just pretend to be retarded for the sake of the argument of actually are.
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>>37295673
No one is even trying anything. You are literally throwing your hissy fit over nothing at all.
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>>37295700
If the literal first response to a joke is someone on the "oh but we totally eat lizardmen all the time!" side advocating more eating dudes and restarting the argument, you don't get to claim the other side is picking fights.

You were picking fights. You refuse to drop a fight you've lost. This is because you are an asshole, at best.
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>>372955
>vampire
>Nothing to do with eating people.
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>>37295700

/tg/ is 30% Deviants, 20% White Knights, 40%Fairly normal neckbears (Slightly deviant by nature), 10% Ultra-Neckbeards, and 100% Retarded.
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>>37295735
If that's the case then you'd drop it right now, right?
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>>37295773
No, just because I enjoy you getting butthurt over something that will never come up.

>>37295750
Sadly the questing community go basically all of those white knights.
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>>37295750
nah mate, i would say only 70% retards on tg
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>>37295817
>I am of this side specifically to get a rise out of people
Well, troll confirmed by classical definition.
I wish you would go to one of the many edgequests that pander to your tastes.
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>>37295823

We all have our moments.
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I'm not even participating in this bullfuckery and I am getting mixed messages between "You lost this argument" and "You should just drop it."

Personally, it sounds like someone struggling, but then again, I don't fucking care, if we want FleshConsumingWendigo! Lyra, I am perfectly fine with it, if we want MetalSpider! I am fine with that, if we want MagmaSpider, SunSpider, Godspider, I am perfectly fucking fine with that.
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>>37295837
I just can't take people serious whos main argument is "you are a troll". It just makes you sound so silly.
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>>37295817
>No, just because I enjoy you getting butthurt over something that will never come up.
of course killing people in self defense will come up again
the question is whether when that happen we use the meat, or we go hunt a delicious bear instead.
Originally i was for using the meat but the logic given by the other side won me over.
although then I remembered that we don't know in character about the potential for corruption so now i have no clue
... i am also not someone who was part of the argument and hissy fit which was obviously trolls and retards
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>>37295823

Nah, every person on /tg/ is retarded at least 20% of the time they are on here, even if they just lurk.
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>>37295869
Try taking someone who uses the word "butthurt" legitimately seriously.
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>>37295882
>Bear
That only work in the forest Anon
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>>37295869
>I don't believe trolls exist on the internet, especially not in an upstanding site like 4chan
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>>37295882
Yeah, that's pretty much the story.
I was fine with the meat to start, then it became an issue, I thought about it, and I was against it.
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>>37295837
When will you fucking realise no one is aarguing in favor of eating sapients specifically. Its if at all only about eating those we have already killed.
And I already have a quest pandering to that. This one. Because REQM, completly wihtout my input, already made that a thing.
Deal with it. No matter how many cries of troll and how amny tears you shed. Lyra has eaten people. More than once.
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We have eaten a grand total of 3 lizards, split between 7 people.
We have since learned that they are sapient, and decided not to anymore.

How is this even an argument?
There is no one here railing for eating people.
Someone is just stirring up shit because it's an easy push button topic for instant replies.
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>>37295919
if its a city we can buy delicious pork instead, we rich
also, it will avoid misunderstanding with the authorities if they don't catch us eating our enemies when we explain it was self defense rather then predation
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>>37295869
But the guy literally admitted to being a troll.
>>37295930
see
>>37295817
he outright admits to it.
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>>37295934

Mom was perfectly okay with eating them when they were available and the alternative was getting up to go and hunt to specifically avoid eating them.

She basically went "Don't make this a normal thing"
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>>37295882
>the question is whether when that happen we use the meat, or we go hunt a delicious bear instead.
REQM never gave us a choice in that to begin with. We never had a option of "don't eat the lizards" as such. Nor did we have a option of "eat the kobolds". REQM is gonna decide that on his own, so we don't need to worry about whats better or not anyway.
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>>37295958
Well killing someone in the city as a monster will lead to trouble even if in self-defence, I'd argue eating the corpse would a good way to destroy evidence.
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>>37295930
>When will you fucking realise no one is aarguing in favor of eating sapients specifically. Its if at all only about eating those we have already killed.
Literally nobody is talking about hunting for sapients. The discussion is purely about whether we eat the corpses of our sapient enemies. Just because we killed them in self defense doesn't make them nonsapient.
Also, literally nobody is arguing morality. All the reasons for not eating the sapients we killed in self defense were ones of practicality (with the occasional metagame)
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>>37296024
Don't forget the roleplaying reason of "lyra doesn't actually want to do that any more".
Which is totally the case.
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>>37295983
>REQM never gave us a choice in that to begin with.
I am pretty sure we voted to bring their meat back home. And it is also irrelevant because nobody is discussing what happened last time, but what we will do in the future
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I find it ultimately amusing that we are having an argument about cannibalism, when we are playing as a spider.

As in, that one type of creature that makes a habit out of eating each other more than any other type of animal or beast in the world, and if it doesn't make it a habit to eat other spiders, has absolutely no qualms about eating them if they fuck up around them or get aggressive.
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>>37296024
Wait what other sapient being did we kill other than lizard and kobold Which we found disgusting even alive anyways?
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>>37296004
>I'd argue eating the corpse would a good way to destroy evidence.
Do we eat the bones? every single internal organ? even the gross parts? what if they are sick and nasty?
Also, we can magically conjure fire and manipulate earth
>Cremate them
>Bury the dust
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>>37296071
As much as we brag about it, we're not a literal spider.
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>>37295983
We voted to pack them up and take them home. Only two of them, but there it is.

We didn't get an 'eat kobolds' option likely because they were either disgusting, or because we were in a monster infested ruin and could hear things closing in on us.

>>37296024
Realistically, Lyra was human.
She isn't going to eat anything with a human face/ features.
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>>37296024

I mean, I'll chalk it up to a question of whether or not you eat the robber you killed because he broke into your house or reach for the cereal box in the nearest cabinet. Sure, there's a whole "necessity trumps morality" thing, but REQM hasn't been too keen on giving us the grimdark shaft.
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>>37296094

We hang out with Seranthris, who is the Epitome of being a Spider.
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>>37296080
>Wait what other sapient being did we kill
Are you unable to read simple english? It has nothing to do with what we already killed, the discussion is explicitly and exclusively entirely about the future. When we kill an enemy in the future, who is a sapient, do we eat the corpse or not.
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>>37296071
You're right we should eat our family.
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>>37296109
Spiders seem a lot more social and friendly here.
At least ones big enough to think about stuff.
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>>37296071
we are actually an arachne which are a partially humanoid spider who are "honorable protector" who guard moths and harpies (fun fact, IRL spiders eat moths)
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>>37296126
>Are you unable to read simple english?
Are you unable to read the quest?
We never got a choice of eating or not eating sapients before. Why would we ever in the future?
Literally no one but butthurt moralfags thinks its even a issue to begin with.
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>>37296138

Harvestmen / Daddy Long Legs are friendly and are often found in large communities.

Doesn't change the fact that their favorite hobby is swarming down and eating larger spiders.
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>>37296109
Not really, I mean he is a spider and he's big.
Unlike actual spider he's friendly and intelligent.
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>>37296126
I'll vote to eat some of them if Lyra liked them or at least try them. I mean a bearman and a bear aren't that different considering most mob have basic level of intelligence.
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>>37296098
>We voted to pack them up and take them home.
We actually only really got the choice of 'how' to transport them.
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>>37296164
If that were the case,
>>37294240
wouldn't have started this whole thing.

But, you know, have whatever narrative you need to keep arguing.
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>>37296165
Harvest men and daddy long legs aren't the same thing, Harvest men aren't even spiders.
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>>37296201
What is other(?)?
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>>37296155
>IRL spiders eat moths
So does this spider if Nin gets her way.
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>>37296165
Don't make me start telling you about social spiders again like I did before.
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>>37296231
Damnit lewd disease.
Damnit.
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>>37296220
Back then no one cared about eating sapients. Even when it came up the second time, people just joked about how Lyra is going to snack them all up on the way home.
This whole "its wrong" thing just came up with larger readership and the inevitable influx of people incapable of handling a protagonist that doesn't share their norms and values.
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>>37296164
>Are you unable to read the quest?
So you completely ignore what a post actually says when replying to it, instead making a strawman because you assume that surely the person you are talking to did not mean what he actually said, but instead meant some conclusion you drew from reading the quest?
You are a retard. If someone makes a mistake about what happened in the quest you correct them

Proper behavior
>>Statement about future cannibalism
>We did not receive a choice, so its irrelevent

Your brand of retard behavior
>>Statement about future cannibalism
>*Hey, he is wrong, we did not receive a choice so we won't receive one again... I am just going to assume he meant something completely different from what he said because I am a retard*

>We never got a choice of eating or not eating sapients before.
Actually false, we chose to bring them home to dinner. I remember voting for it

>Why would we ever in the future?
Because it has been made an issue, one the QM has become aware of and has made comments on
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>>37296235

I enjoy hearing about social spiders.

They make me have nightmares by imagining them the size of basketballs.
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>>37294240
>The first we ever hunted were Red Gnomes
Actually false, the red gnomes hunted US. and while they are somewhat humanoid-ish, they appear to be animals. No more sapient than a really aggressive and stupid monkey
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>>37296278
Its not even lewd disease at this point.
Nin wants the spider.
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>>37296295
But I was here from the beginning and I only started caring once people made a serious argument for the case.

Hell, you're probably the new one. We've not had anyone so dedicated to mudslinging until recently.
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>>37296201

>"We can wrap one or two tightly, so the blood doesn't escape. We don't want anything following us."
>"Mom will probably hunt for us tomorrow- We don't have to bother."
>"We could drag a couple behind us- There'd be enough for everyone to eat."
>Other(?)

These were our options.

>>37296295
Oh, for-
Even at the end of the first thread with lizards, people were panicking about them being sapient, and about killing them being wrong.
Stop trying to extend the argument.
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>>37296336
That was my first comment in this conversation.
But keep projecting.
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>>37296328
Well, there are fucktons of types of social spiders.

There's this one kind that all move on a unified web-pulse simultanously on a single web. Anything that moves in a different rhythm is immediately descended upon.

Walk without rhythm to avoid the worm, but walk WITH rhythm to avoid the spider.
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>>37296333
It's gotta the ears. Bitches love the ears.
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>>37296295
I'm simply offering an answer to anon, I don't care if we eat lizardmen or goblin if we ever find some. Maybe the later, goblin don't look appetizing.

>>37296364
>Other(?)
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>>37296364
>Even at the end of the first thread with lizards, people were panicking about them being sapient, and about killing them being wrong.
No, actually we were wondering if we accidently broke into their territory, and they acted in self-defense.
It wasn't a issue of if it was right to eat them. It was a issue of if it was right to come here and kill them. And that was a legit concern, because we didn't know.
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>>37296380
The point stands. We've not had anyone mudslinging about this kind of thing, or any mention of the word "moralfag" until just this thread.

I posit anyone talking about that is almost certainly new. It follows the exact same logic you were just using.
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>>37296411
>goblin don't look appetizing.
Neither do kobolds and lizardmen. actually we have already stated that lizardmen taste bad. And kobolds are so filthy the thought of eating them disgusts us.
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>>37296430
>>37296380
That's actually pretty fucking solid.
We've got some new guy in the thread trying to start arguments. it's the only explanation.
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>>37296463
On the other hand I'd have no problem trying a bear man or a porc man if we ever killed one.
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>>37296364
>>37296411
I was on your side anon. Specifically
>"Mom will probably hunt for us tomorrow- We don't have to bother."
Is a direct we're not taking lizards home option.
People voted for it before, but it's pretty clear it wouldn't happen again.
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>>37296438
>We've not had anyone mudslinging about this kind of thing, or any mention of the word "moralfag" until just this thread.
I'm pretty sure there was a argument about this kind of thing a few threads back, which as far as I red into it, was even worse incomprehensible rage and mudslinging than this one.

>or any mention of the word "moralfag"
Pretty sure it came up with the merchant guy too, actually.
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>>37296438
>I posit anyone talking about that is almost certainly new.
You posit falsely, it was mentioned literally in the very same first thread where we ate them.
We just decided we didn't give a fuck

>>37296364
Yep, second choice would be to not eat them. I remember I personally voted for
>"We could drag a couple behind us- There'd be enough for everyone to eat."
and while I see nothing morally wrong with it, due to the various practical reasons raised I have switched from "only eat sapients killed in self defense" to "don't eat sapients at all unless you have no choice, letting the flesh of enemies killed in self defense go to waste"
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>>37296497
Now you're just being retarded on purpose.
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>>37296295

I didn't particularly care about eating a few lizards toward the beginning of the story. Meat is meat, and those who chose to eat them argued from a point of practical utility. I wasn't a proponent of actively hunting anything that could be considered people for food, and this was reinforced when we found the taste of dog offensive (the dogs themselves being more recognizable as human than the lizards).

My opinion only really shifted when REQM mentioned, "You run the risk of having degenerate evolutions if you keep snacking on sapient creatures." That puts eating sapients on about the same level of necessity of "if literally nothing else in the world is edible". If we are starving in a desert with no food, we will eat what we have to to stay alive. In the meantime, if there's a bear, a beehive, or a horde of squirrels not far off, my votes for that, no matter how peckish we are when we down something smarter than your average corgi.
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>>37296564
>. I wasn't a proponent of actively hunting anything that could be considered people for food
I don't think we ever had anyone actually suggesting doing that, ever.
That was never actually a point. And since you have only recently changed your stance on the issue, I have to argue that everyone who is as violently repulsed by the cannibalism as some apparently here are, must be new, because we didn't have such a strong reaction to it, when it actually happened. So clearly they can't have been around then.
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>>37296564
This, all of this.
The only question is... is this metagame or not. Do we know in character that we run the risk of degenerate evolutions from eating sapients. Then again, have we not metagamed already about evolutions? (and I am personally a bit disappointed about the grave evolution since that already sounds kinda degenerate.)
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>>37296623
>I don't think we ever had anyone actually suggesting doing that, ever.
Way way in the back we had some suggestions to actively hunt down lizardmen. it was shot down. Nobody in this thread mentioned it except as a strawman. This was used as a strawman for both sides actually.
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>>37296406

Dance Dance Revolution Co-Op saves lives.
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>>37296625
ICly we don't like it.
OOCly we have no reason to do it.
The only way this is still in contention is if someone with a weird fetishagenda wants to keep pushing it.
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>>37296651 cont
>I have to argue that everyone who is as violently repulsed by the cannibalism as some apparently here are, must be new, because we didn't have such a strong reaction to it, when it actually happened. So clearly they can't have been around then.
Oh look, another retarded strawman. Nobody here is "violently repulsed by cannibalism", literally nobody here opposed it on moral grounds. The only reasons people have given so far are perfectly logical and practical, being that they don't want to get a degenerate evolution, or that it isn't worth the PR of explaining it to anyone who catches us doing it.
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>>37296625
>Do we know in character that we run the risk of degenerate evolutions from eating sapients.

I think that isn't really a issue, since Lyra is a human, she would normally not eat something sapient. She didn't really, and still doesn't, know how intelligent lizards actually are, and then Mom found it okay to eat them, so Lizards are probably the only thing Lyra would have found okay to eat.
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>>37296706
There's also the contingent who are citing that lyra herself doesn't actually want to do it IC.
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>>37296706
>being that they don't want to get a degenerate evolution
Which Lyra doesn't know about, nor is it actually a issue until we do it often.
>or that it isn't worth the PR of explaining it to anyone who catches us doing it
Basically everyone who sees us eating them, would be other monsterkin just as okay with it.
Lyra would have never eaten a lizard in front of Lann, for obvious reasons.

And I never mentioned "moral grounds" at all. Only cited the very strong reaction to it, that wasn't here before.
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>>37296625
>have we not metagamed already about evolutions
We can't metagame what we don't know about, we are in the dark about most evolution parameter and some evolution can take precedence over others

>>37296729
As far as that take me is that I know Lyra doesn't like Lizardmen. Nothing is said about human level intelligence though that could also mean higher level evolution from random mob too.
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>>37296729
you are right, and there was also the fourth one that argues against specific races, namely
>Lizardmen taste bad according to lyra IC
and
>Kobolds make us wretch just thinking about eating something so filthy IC
However, those wouldn't apply if a delicious succulent human or elf attacked us and was killed in self defense.
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>>37296779
Well, she's had time to think on it, she won't be doing it again.
And you'd have to be some kind of extremely anal dick to think that means just lizardmen.
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>>37296806
well, I'm in the third group, not the fourth.
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>>37296777
>>>Hurr durr strawman
>>But this is a strawman, what people actually said is X
>Counter argument to X
That doesn't make your strawman from earlier any less retarded

>And I never mentioned "moral grounds" at all. Only cited the very strong reaction to it
Please stop treating everyone but yourself as a retard.
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>>37296806
You think someone who was human would be able to eat humans?
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>>37296855
He can't do that, anon. He's some QTG phantom jumping at moralfag ghosts, everyone is retards to him.
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>>37296813
>And you'd have to be some kind of extremely anal dick to think that means just lizardmen.
So taking the fact that Lyra doesn't like Lizardmen meat as only that make me a dickbutt? Sure I'll take it.
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>>37296866
Lann says they can do all sorts of things. Clearly "tasting delicious" should be among that.
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>>37296777
>Which Lyra doesn't know about
Which is a completely different argument. And note that monsterfolk do have some lore about evolution so it might be IC knowledge. not to mention that we know that everything we do can affect our evolution (with achievements and blessings) so its a fairly logical deduction that cannibalism based evolutions exist

>nor is it actually a issue until we do it often.
We don't know how many times is often, which was explicitly stated, and why people said to just not risk it when its so easy to acquire food that doesn't carry that risk
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>>37296897
nah, just means you have a stick in your ass to not take the obvious implication.
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>>37296901
>so it might be IC knowledge
If it were, Mom wouldnt have allowed us to do it at all.
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>>37296866
humans eat humans all the time
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>>37296933
mom isn't the only source of knowledge on monsterfolk. she also isn't the most responsible person ever. And she might have just thought that this one time won't do any harm
Also, its possible that QM just didn't consider that at the time
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>>37296866
It happened and happens in reality.
Lyra comes from the same society that produced the turbo-cannibal of the original LN.
And he wasn't shunned or anything, so its apparently not a issue in that regard.
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>>37296972
>And she might have just thought that this one time won't do any harm
And she would have been right.

More likely is that spiders have been at war for so long witht he lizards, they just don't consider them "sapient".
I thiuk if Lyra would have made a hbit out of hunting lizardmen, then Mom would have said something.
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>>37296985
Well, lyra apparently has some reservations about it now.
If she's having moral grey area problems about lizardmen, then she'll almost certainly hate the idea of eating people.
Which matches her character perfectly.
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>>37296706
>>37296777

I think a widening perspective of what constitutes acceptable social norms in character is important to how the question of cannibalism has come to be viewed. The lizards, in my mind at the time, were not particularly deserving of consideration as sapient beings. They were basically savage beasts, so eating them didn't trigger any sort of empathetic response. Just like the gnomes we ate the first time, I assumed that eating them was acceptable within the convention of arachne culture. None of our siblings complained, so I felt validated in that decision.

Later on, the dog folks were different in that they were far more recognizably "human". They were terrible humans, but they spoke and clearly were part of some sort of moderately advanced society. Eating them would have been more contentious to me on those grounds, but it did not come up.

Then getting introduced to human society made me a little less willing to consider cannibalism on the grounds that it might terrify Lann or the townsfolk, who I wanted to associate with.

Add on a little bit of meta with the degenerate evolutions, and I pretty much came around full circle from practical utility to strong caution against eating anything sapient, though the lizards pretty much only because of the last part that I mentioned.
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>>37297025
>If she's having moral grey area problems about lizardmen
I still won't acknowledge that, because it makes me angry moralfags ruined sucha w onderful potential character moment for Lyra to go "oh shit, they are PEOPLE" when meeting a non-feral lizardmen.
If she already considered it bad before then, not even in the story, but just off-screen. That completly ruins that.
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>>37296918
An implication doesn't mean anything anon. Reading too far into things and thinking your headcanon is real will makes you like that Female Goodra guy from /vp/.
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>>37297086
And being intentionally retarded and missing the obvious context of the question and answer are how you extend an argument for no reason other than to cause shit.
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>>37297070
Yeah, that sounds like it would be terribly ill-fitting with the quest's tone.
re:QM made a wise move to axe that at the pass when it looked like it would be an issue.
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>>37297057
The lizards had language, weapons they forged themselves from metal, nets, group combat tactics...
They were savages but definitely people.

The gnomes I am pretty sure are completely nonsapient animals.
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>>37297108
You could just stop posting yourself you know, nobody is forcing you to "win" this arguments. You're also the only insulting people right now.
No anon you became the troll etc...
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>>37297057
>I assumed that eating them was acceptable within the convention of arachne culture
It apparently is. I think there is a difference for arachne between, "eating the occasional lizardmen that attacked you" and "going on hunting trips to lizardland".
Pretty sure they object to the second thing, largely because of what it says about the person.
To me, there was neve a question lyra would stop eating Lizardmen, on account of them actually being sapient, and contrary to her claim, she is not actually just a giant spider.
I however also thought it would be in the form of
>>37297070
Her actually being forced to re-eveluate her world-view from what her mother teaches her being completly right for her, when meeting a actually intelligent lizardmen.
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>>37296985
The mc was a super-soldier, to the literal extent- modified body and all.
Chances are he was regarded as a weapon. And the novel reveals that he was pretty fucked up to begin with, even prior to discovering his power. He 'saves' a girl as a human when he's younger, and his only reason for doing so was so he could have an excuse to try out a weapon on them.

And to the point- his 'morals' in the series are so fucking convoluted that there's no point examining it. The guy rescues people from being raped- and murders and tortures people to prevent it from occuring again, then later genuinely creates a rapefactory.
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>>37297143
I think you misunderstand the tone this is supposed to have.
Our encounter with the Kobolds, is pretty much the tone REQM has been aiming for, and partially failed at meeting to his own admission.
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>>37297171
This isn't an argument. Just a flat statement that if you are intentionally missing the context to continue the argument, that makes you a dick.
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>>37297070
>moralfags
You keep on using that word...

>ruined sucha w onderful potential character moment for Lyra to go "oh shit, they are PEOPLE" when meeting a non-feral lizardmen.
The feral lizardmen mine metal, forge it into weapons, wear clothes, and attack using nets, tract down specific people to murder them (ignoring more convenient source of food), and try to murder children out of racism.
It was obviously right away that they weren't animals
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>>37297149

I'm not saying I was correct in my initial impressions of the lizards. In fact, after learning more about the fact that they have something resembling a culture, a social structure, and that there is a nonzero chance that there will be good people who are lizards wandering the world, I feel a little remorse for having killed and eaten so many. It's simply human nature in that.

The parallels between the lizards and the gnomes made it easier for me to just see them as another form of food though. Weapons or no, they somehow didn't appeal to my sense of what it means to be human, which is precisely the reason the arachne kill (and occasionally eat) them.
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>>37297224
Well, if you know the tone better than the QM, take it up with him. I'm sure he'll love backseat driving about what scenes WOULD have been so much better.
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>>37297180
I didn't say Lyra shares that guys morales, god no.
The point was, that there is some indication cannibalism wasn't as socially shunned by her society as it would be by the societies most here live in.
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>>37297143

REQM actually wanted a much darker, more fatalistic tone.

He failed and got caught up in Amazing Spiderbutt and Her Cute Monsterbutt Harem Adventures just like everyone else.
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>>37297241
Anybody who uses the word "moralfag" in a serious manner is someone who is not to be taken seriously.
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>>37297269
Do you just read the parts of the ask.fm that support your personal view?
There was a pretty long one about how REQM tried to more strongly convey a sense of real danger and lethality in this quest.
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>>37297234
Yes I know I'm a dick to you and I accept that, I'll vote for eating what I think look good. Now unless you have anything to add you're just trolling yourself and making yourself look bad
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>>37297180
>The mc was a super-soldier, to the literal extent- modified body and all.
His super soldier part was that he underwent an experimental "ESPer power augmentation" that granted him the power to consume anything to steal its power (ESP powers were normally inborn but not him, he was born muggle). He then proceeded to eat a fuckton of monsters and other humans with ESP to steal their powers. All stolen powers were lost upon his death, but he kept his consumption power even though that power was one that was granted to him through the augmentation process. (the augmentation process was not a sure thing and was like a 1/million chance for him to get that power)
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>>37297316
Well, enjoy voting OOCly for reasons that have been thoroughly debunked by all sources.
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>>37297345
>Voting OOCly
All vote are OOC anon stop thinking that /tg/ won't meta.
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>>37297313
That is STILL a different tone from brain-fuck "oh man they're actually people" plotlines.
And that doesn't change the current tone that the QM decided to go on.
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>>37297341

It's a terrible LN, a terrible Anime, the author is a terrible person and people that like it are terrible people.
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>>37297377
Can you stop projecting please?
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>>37297345
>Well, enjoy voting OOCly for reasons that have been thoroughly debunked by all sources.
I really wish all the people who were crying "boo hoo moralfags" had actually made this argument and we had a nice discussion about the merits of OOC vs IC knowledge. But the vorefags have just been accusing anyone who didn't agree with them of being a moralfag instead or made strawmen.
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>>37297399
>and people that like it are terrible people
REQM is among those people though.
He doesn't like the MC, really no one but elevens does, but he still likes the LN.
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>>37297399
It just blows my mind how many LN have fun/amazing settings, especially for roleplaying purposes.

Like- For some bizarre reason, the power fantasy LNs always have fun settings.

And then there's log horizon, which just leaves me devastated that asymmetric power and intricate systems has vanished from mmos.
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>>37297494
Well, the vorefags weren't here to make an actual case. They were here specifically because they liked how "butthurt" they made "moralfags". In their own words.
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>>37297494
>But the vorefags
This whole thing had more merit if you wouldn't continue to misuse that word and it being a matter of OOC knowledge has been brought up constantly.
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>>37297496

I didn't say the idea behind the setting was terrible, I said everything else was, including the people that like it for the story.
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>>37297494
Vorefags is just as much as a silly buzzword as moralfag. You are outing yourself to be on the exact same level as the people who go "trolling the moralfags".
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>>37297434
I don't think saying that /tg/ will metagame is a projection anon, sorry to disappoint you.
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>>37297529
If you want another more politically correct for the guys who are on the vore side, you're free to it.
>>37297562
Nobody actually admitted to being here specifically for the butthurt but the guys who want to "vote for eating people". their own words.
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>>37297520
>Well, the vorefags weren't here to make an actual case.
First of all because there never were any vorefags here outside of your feverish delusions. Second of all, no because no one tried to make a case for anything. Some people just got mad, again, at someone mentioning how Lyra has eaten people.
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>>37297520
>using vorefag
>Think he's any better than people using moral fag
You're just on the other end of the horseshoe
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>>37297562

They are even misusing the "Vore" in vorefags!

I don't ever recall a vorefag liking the idea of being torn apart and eaten, maybe the idea of being swallowed whole and having the tight, hot confines of a throat squeezing their entire body gets them hot and bothered, but eaten like an actual -meal-? Never heard of it.

Cannibalism and Vore are very different things.
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>>37297529
>it being a matter of OOC knowledge has been brought up constantly.
by our side. not the vorefags

>>But the vorefags
>This whole thing had more merit if you wouldn't continue to misuse that word
It is the first time I used that word, and literally the only time it was used in this thread so far was in >>37294854 who called the pro cannibalism guys vorefags and >>37294953 which falsely claimed the main argument against cannibalism is
>"Take your fetish elsewhere, you vorefag."
even thought literally only one person has mentioned it once before him.
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>>37297612
Well, except for the guys over here
>>37294240
who were doing exactly that.
You know, the guy who started this whole thing, that you feverishly ignore as it undermines your legitimacy.
>>37297629
Anon, there's a whole sub-branch of vore dedicated specifically to that.
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>>37297629
>They are even misusing the "Vore" in vorefags!
That was my point yes.
I mean, even cannibalism would be wrong, but I guess using actual fitting terminology would be to hard to do when angrily ranting at someone.
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>>37297629
>I don't ever recall a vorefag liking the idea of being torn apart and eaten
Its called hard vore
Soft vore is being swallowed whole. Hard vore is gore and guts and maybe cooking and eating someone in pieces
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>>37297675
>>37297629
I don't think you guys are aware of the more gore-y types of vore. it's not allowed on /d/.
All that shit is pretty sick.
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>>37297665
>who were doing exactly that.
I don't see any word of him saying " we should totally do that".
Its pretty much just in your head.
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>>37297665

It's not really a sub-branch though, people that get hot and bothered by cannibalism just call it vore because the term "Cannibalism Fetish" makes them feel bad, so they piggy back off another.

Like furries and otherkin.
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>>37297704
I remember it, it wasn't that bad, not something I'd fap to but no shock factor to it. Hole on the other hand? That was something sick.
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>>37297629
>Never heard of hard vore
>Thinks all vore is soft vore
>Thinks hard vore is not vore
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>>37297704
No, vore specifically refers to the whole swallowing thing.
Actual chewing and all that would be gore again, for obvious reasons.
A case could be made for digesting falling under vore, but that isn't really the point here.
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>>37297704
>it's not allowed on /d/.
Basically this
/d/ bans hard vore, allows soft vore, you innocent babies here have no idea what vorophiles are actually into and think the occasional softcore shit you see on /d/ is representative of them as a whole
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>>37297712
people were doing that several times in the thread.
Heck, there's a guy doing it over here.
>>37296190

You can't claim there's not a section of people who are voting specifically to eat people.
Let alone the guy who outright admitted to voting for whatever he can to make people angry.
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>>37297800
You are factually incorrect. There is an overlap between gore and vore that is hard vore.
Just because you don't see it on /d/ doesn't mean it's not a thing.
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>>37297800
>Actual chewing and all that would be gore again
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+hard+vore
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>>37297812
That was deep in the conversation though, and therefore didn't start the argument.
Which was the point, what started the argument. And it was not people voting for eating a sapient, nor was it someone honestly saying, "we should eat more sapients".
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>>37297854
>what started the argument
>>37294240
This guy, being incredibly bitter about how the last argument went.

He's the first one to react to a joke with dredging up this shit.
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>>37297854
Third party anon here. you might have MEANT "what started the debate" (which I find far fetched) but what you literally said was
>I don't see any word of him saying " we should totally do that".
>Its pretty much just in your head.
So he was totally right in pointing out that yes, people DID literally say "we should totally do that" and he has the links to prove it.
Honestly though, I thought the "eat a bearman" guy was joking
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>>37297854
Well, you're double wrong in two ways, I guess. Both in letter of the word and in spirit.
>>37297880
>>37297907
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>>37297907
I was specifically refering to that one guy he qouted, because he is right that that post was the first in the chain of argument.
What he was wrong about, was that guy calling for eating more sapients. Which he didn't.
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>>37298009
If you'd read, the sentence in question referred to guys, plural.
So not any one specific guy.
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>>37298069
He qouted specifically one guy.
And I pointed out that guy didn't actually do that.
Other people did, later, most likely to rile up people who got offended by it. Because shitposting is to trolls what blood is to sharks.
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>>37298138
Oh, what a terrible thing, an anon associated behaviors of the group he was arguing with with people in the group he was arguing with. And he used a vague term, too, so he didn't have to be exact about it just in case of this specific scenario!



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