>>37159236
>Go work on Mechsuit

>>37159236
>Go work on Mechsuit

>>37159236
>Go work on Mechsuit
We're in no shape to hunt anything right now. We know the Gouger is a filed Psychic, if he still has those power plus whatever mutation he's accumulated we'd end up very did very quick.

>>37159236
>Heal yourself
>Go work on Mechsuit

>>37159236
>Go work on Mechsuit
Don't suppose we can heal yet.

>>37159277
failed psychic*

>>37159236
>Hunt Gouger

>>37159236

>Go work on Mechsuit

Time to go ahead and see if we can make sense of the Mechsuits.

Ok, roll Intelligence 1d20+8 (mechanics)

Rolled 12 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37159427

Rolled 7 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37159427
here we go

Rolled 5 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37159427

Rolled 9 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>37159427

>[Vitae 32/60, Lirael feels hungry at less than 30 vitae, and starving at less than 10, Lirael uses 3 vitae/day to live. Lirael gains 4 vitae per feeding, or 8 with Sweet Blood.]

So, we would have to feed Lirael basically every day, just for "maintenance" and a certain buffer for vitae usage.
That lines up pretty well, since 24h is also our timer to keep it to Weak Desire(+2DC).
Question for Pally, does being recently bit offer the same DC-5 that having taken Drugs recently do?

>>37159542
My mistake, I forgot the more effective Vitae from us, so every second day. Or still every day and we have a far larger buffer, since only feeding every second day would leave us with always a full day of moderate desire(+6DC).

You head down to the warmech bay, Lirael in tow. Before you go you take more bottled water and horrible-tasting military rations.

Once there you examine the warmech suit closely, and take an inventory of the repair bay. This is the only complete warmech down here, the rest are either ruined beyond repair or broken down for parts.

The suit itself is damaged, but most of that is the armour, some of which has been removed, was it being repaired when everyone left? Or did someone take it into combat, partially built?

The repair bay...You and Lirael take a look around, this isn’t just a repair bay, this is a construction facility – fully capable of building new warmechs, but it is badly damaged. It would take weeks or months to repair.

The warmech itself would maybe take a day or so, now that you have the tools, and there’re plenty of parts here. You start with the warmech itself, you have tools, including a lamp, and you have your books. Oh sure if the repair bay had power and wasn’t broken this would be a lot quicker, but you can manage. You start by removing obviously damaged components, stripping it back to the parts that work. Lirael helps, holding tools and asking questions as you explain how it all fits together.

You work late into the night, until you’ve taken it back to the bare frame, ready to start rebuilding it properly. The two of you work alone in the dark repair bay.

[Warmech repairs 20% completed]

Lirael picks up a piece of armour plate with a huge gouge in it “Shee” she says “What did this?”

“I don’t know” you answer “something with claws it seems like.”

“And this?” Lirael shows you a piece that’s been melted and corroded.

“Acid or something corrosive” you say “C’mon, it’s getting late, there’s no power here and we should get some re- By the Five!” you jump back with a curse as the Teacher appears in front of you.

“Wwwww-would you like power restored to this area c-c-Cadet Shee?” Asks the buggy hologram.

“Maybe” you say “can you do it?”

“I can” says the Teacher “By diverting power from other areas I can partially power up this area.”

“What areas?” you ask suspiciously “Not the air circulation or anything like thar?”

“Essential systems will not be compromised” insists the Teacher.

“Then what?” you ask

“Refrigeration Systems” says the Teacher.

“What’s in them?” you ask “Food?”

“You do not have sufficient clearance for that information” says the Teacher. Huh...It might be important or it could just be the Teacher being buggy. Power in here would be very useful, but what if there’s, you dunno, a frozen dead person in the fridge or something?

Divert Power to the Repair bay?

>Y/N

>>37159542
>does being recently bit offer the same DC-5 that having taken Drugs recently do?

Yes, but only for 1 hour

>>37159670
>N
Lets find that refrigation system first. Would be amazingly useful to have.

>>37159670
>N

>Thawing refrigeration behind a clearance wall in a secret government facility
No thank you, I've seen enough horror movies to know where that leads.

>>37159670
>N

>>37159670
N
where does the refrigeration system adjoin with respect to the rest of the facility?

>>37159670
>warmech bay,
>N
Find refrigeration

>>37159670
>N

It if is on ice, and it is clearance required, lets not deice it.

“No thank you” you say to the Teacher “Where is the Refrigeration System?”

“Occupying most of 3 of the lower levels” says the Teacher. Ah, somewhere you can’t get then.

“Shee I’m tired” says Lirael, yawning and rubbing her eyes. It is very late, at 10pm.

“Maybe we should get some rest” you say.

“Are we going home?” asks Lirael “Or are we sleeping here?”

Well?

>Go back to Dust Town
>Sleep here
>Other (what? Don’t sleep yet?)

You don’t have to turn in, you can do other stuff, but you have got work tomorrow.

>>37159819
>Sleep here

>>37159819
>Go back to Dust Town

>but you have got work tomorro
Uhm, so how are the chances Rainya is willing to talk tomorrow?

>>37159819
>Go back to Dust Town

>>37159819
>Go back to Dust Town

>>37159819

>Go back to Dust Town

“Let’s go home” you say to Lirael, tidying up your tools and then taking her by the hand. The world warps around the two of you and you’re back in your mundane little shack. You pull off your clothes and the two of you get into bed together “Good night Shee” says Lirael as you take your no-dreaming pills “Good night Lirael” you say, the two of you laying down together
---
Ugh, morning, how you love morning. “Shee, Shee” says Lirael, bouncing up and down on your pallet beside you “good morning!” well someone is lively...

You feel a familiar longing...

[Bite Desire: Weak]

As you get dressed and washed and ready to face the day, Lirael continues to be bouncy and energetic.

As you’re ready to go out of the door Lirael tugs on your hand.

“What?” you ask.

“Wouldn’t it be better to feed here than out in public?” asks Lirael uncertainly, “I mean, you are feeding me now, right?”

At the thought of Lirael biting you again your knees go weak and you feel hot all over, the long-buried craving is back, it’s back full force. You bite your lower lip to help you focus but it doesn’t help, you imagine Lirael and you on the pallet, your limbs tangled together, her teeth breaking through your skin as your back arches, your body unable to contain the joy you feel...

Roll Willpower 1d20+4

Rolled 12 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37160093
Is our CON damage already healed? Then we might as well feed her.

>>37160093

Rolled 4 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37160093

Rolled 17 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37160093
>Roll Willpower 1d20+4

Looks like we may want to push will power higher, eventually. So we can make better decisions on when to feed.

If our Con is healed and we have time, we should feed her.

If we don't have time, we need to do it later.

Rolled 19 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>37160093
wouldn't it be less hassle to just give a vote on if we want her to feed?
instead of waiting? You can still go with the roll if we say no.

>>37160141
>Looks like we may want to push will power higher, eventually.
We can't. Human maximum is 18.

>>37160158
>Human
What makes you think we are human?

>>37160141
>Looks like we may want to push will power higher, eventually.
I'm wondering if Lirael shouldn't have a DC of 20 now too. I personally find that one a bit too high, but I see no reason why she wouldn't count by now.

>>37160175
We'll see if we fail or not. If she counts we would fail the roll.
But yeah, the 20 is pretty damn high.

>>37160171
Doesn't matter, the maximum is still 18.

>>37160158
>We can't. Human maximum is 18.

That is the will stat. There may be things we can buy, feats or otherwise that can give us save modifiers.

There is a need to have our vices and needs pull on us. But we should struggle to not be controlled by them.

>>37160199
mostly joking but Jagganatha is all about pushing past limits

You...manage to push down the all-consuming desire, you decide when to let Lirael feed, you won’t let your addiction win.

Still, you healed yourself last night before sleeping, so you should be able to let Lirael feed without too much fuss. Of course she can also go a few days without if needed.

[HP/Con: Full]

Feed Lirael?

Y/N

Feeding will be as before (bite, shoulder) unless write-ins request otherwise.

>>37160249
>Y
Can heal it away on the way to work.

>>37160249
Y
Somewhere easy to hide and sweeten the blood.

>>37160249
Can't we drip feed? regardless I'll vote yes

>>37160249
>Y
Huh, well if you say so Pally.
Just like yesterday then.

>>37160249
>Y
>Somewhere easy to hide and sweeten the blood.

>>37160270
The feeding directly is also to protect us from the addiction. And it adds up really fast.

>>37160270
>>37160275

I can take a full vote on bite vs drip, location etc each time if players want.

Or I can just go with previous feeding conditions for simplicities sake.

Write-ins are of course always permitted.

>>37160270
Why? We already addicted ourselves again.

>>37160249

>Y

Better to feed her as needed, to get her closer to full, so that way she is further from hunger in case something goes wrong on a mission.

Go ahead and do bite, shoulder/arm as needed.

If she is full, I imagine she won't be asking for it as much and things will be easier too.

>>37160302
My comment was directed at us winning the roll actually.
I think its easier if we just stick to a default feeding method and rythm instead of voting everytime.

>>37160311
>>37160295
I want it go back to dormant but I guess thats not going to happen.

>>37160302
eh fuck it, I can tell it's not going to fly so no point in dragging shit out.

>>37160361
That'd take 3 months with being around Ash and Lirael It'd be tough as fuck. With Quin after us know I don't think it'd be possible. Other anons screwed the pooch so now we have to roll with it. Stupid that we turned down a free power out it too.

>>37160389
It was going to wake up sooner or later, that was already confirmed, and it was probably going to be soon. I can't really blame them for not wanting to deal with a vote like that twice in one thread.

>>37160361
>I want it go back to dormant
We would need to go through a full cycle, which means 6 months. And the last three months have a mod of +8.
Its already pretty hard for us to pass the check with Ashley.

>>37160389
>Stupid that we turned down a free power out it too.
No such power was offered.

>>37160389
>>37160361
I wonder why people still haven't read the addiction mechanics to know that our addiction would have left dormancy on its own anyway.

>>37160389
>>37160414
yeah I know, and I get peoples reasons for voting for getting bit. Still slightly butt flustered about though.

No matter what though, we should be investing in willpower sooner rather than later. Not just because of addictions, but also because of the powers and gifts.

>>37160414
No, he means we got offered a power for doing it.

>>37160413
>>37160433
I get that but Still giving in instead of embracing an equally viable alternative(for the moment) just seems wrong. It's done we'll deal with it now.

>>37160414
Meant Ichor was offering us another power and we turned it down. I get we want to be "balanced" but we haven't exactly been embracing the king or Jaggantha and I don't really see us doing so.

>>37160452
We can't get more Willpower as of now, until pally says we can our limit is 18.
Which Pally still hasn't updatet in the charsheet.

>>37160451
I get you, if we would have had the option. I would have agreed with finding other ways.

You and Lirael lie down again briefly and you feed her, it’s everything you remember, joy and ecstasy and pleasure, her body pressed up against yours you can feel that Lirael feels the same. The two of you lie cuddled together until you feel you can move again.

[HP 19/22, Con 12/13]

You’re a little light-headed but nothing you can’t handle. Still, it’s late, you need to get to the bus. You and Lirael rush through breakfast and you take her to chool, you run for the bus and catch it just in time. You feel guilty about not looking for Rainya this morning, but you just didn’t have time, maybe tonight. You walk into work still riding the buzz a liitle and work quickly and cheerfully, talking to clients with a smile and generally being nice to everyone around you, brightening their day a little.

Work is soon over and you’re at the bust stop ready to go home. You receive a message, Ash?

No...Sergeant Yonsul.

The message gives an address, in the hive on your level, a coffee house and a time – 20 minutes. You can easily get there in time, but if you do you’ll miss your bus.

Meet with Sergeant Yonsul?

>Y/N

>>37160485
>I get we want to be "balanced"
Honestly I was largely just tired of arguind with the seductionfags, because they refuse to listen to reason that it isn't actually a good power. It only hides mutations while not using them, and we are pretty much always with other people when fighting sofar. Its way better to just not get visible mutations unless we get offered a ability that lets us hide them in usage too.

>>37160517
>Y
Best girl.

>>37160517
>Y

>>37160517
>Y
Not gonna say it. But you know

>>37160517
>Y
I always have time Best cop buddy

>>37160517
>Y
>>37160534
There were still other powersets we could grab and the internecine demi god war will get overt eventually. Having her displeased with us will suck. She a lot like kimbery remember?

>>37160517
>Y
Maybe we found a new babysitter for Lirael....

>>37160584
And next time I won't refuse her gift either. I just didn't want this stuff twice in a row while people were all riled up by the last one. I figure it makes both sense that Shee wouldn't want to jump into getting investments, and we are still higher in her favor than with anyone else. Mother will understand.

>>37160590
Ah no. She's police remember? She get mind tagged once Lirael is dead. She works with a lot of mind readers.

>>37160622
Kimbery understanding rejection
>LaughingFey.jpg

>>37160642
Thats was a joke. It wasn't really something I actually wanted to suggest.
I mean, she might if he has a day of. But I think if we let her sit our "daughter", she's gonna have expectations.

>>37160642
Yeah you're probably right. But it is, as it is now.

>>37160694
Yeah sadly. Hopefully her Beating out Jaggantha will ameliorate the blow.

You hurry to the coffee house, wryly you wonder if you’re going to end up participating in another *cover story*.

You get there well before the deadline and order a drink, sat in a booth wondering when she’ll turn up. You wait, and wait...is she already here?

You wander through the place looking for her, only to hear a polite cough behind you, you turn around and there is Sergeant Yonsul, towering over you, how the hell can she move so quietly?

“There you are” you say “I’ve been looking for you.”

“I know” she says “I’ve been watching you the whole time, this way.”

She leads you into the back of the coffee house to a private room. She locks the two of you in and takes a scanner out of her pocket, sweeping the room and then you for listening devices, finally she turns to you.

“Well?” she asks

“Well what?” you say

“Have you gotten close to her yet?” asks the sergeant.

“I’ve not even seen her yet” you protest.

“It’s been two nights” she says “What have you been doing?”

“I’ve been with...friends” you say weakly, admitting to going to an illegal weapons fair and then an abandoned military base probably isn’t a good idea.

Sara pinches the bridge of her nose with two fingers “Look, you met her when she was out for the evening, at least tell me you’ve been going out to nightclubs looking for her with your friends ok?”

What do you tell her?

>Be patient, I’ll get close (vague)
>Lie (This pleases Baalzamon)
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)
>Other (what?)

>>37160642
Ichor isn't a straight expy of Kimbery in all ways, stop pretending she is.

>>37160773
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)

>>37160773
>Be patient, I’ll get close (vague)
>>37160775
We are joking around. Calm yourself.

>>37160773
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)
Oh nice, a chance to move into the hive.

>>37160773
>I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.

>>37160773
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)

>>37160773
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)

Okay, why exactly are we trying to take advantage of her like this?
Just for the powers, isn't it?
Because otherwise Shee has never been this bitchy or demanding.

>>37160773

>>37160833
swapping to

>>37160828
This is more accurate.

>>37160773
>If you want me to be a party girl I’m going to need a new life, a place to live, money etc (This pleases The Infinite Mirror)

>>37160773
>>37160828
seconding.


Did you forget we can't bring Lirael to the Hive? So living there isn't possible?
This is why I didn't want the tags.

>>37160773
>I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.

Can't this count as Mirror for not letting ourselves be roped in, or as King of Hell for affirming our independence?

>>37160909
Good question

>>37160828
This Pleases the King of Hell

>>37160773
>>37160805
Changing to
>I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.

>>37160773
>I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.
I like the write-in, and we don't get many opportunities to please the King in Hell.

Extending voting time in case anyone wants to change.

>>37160773
>I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.

ok, write in it is

“Woah, woah” you say “I agreed to contact you if she finds me again, I didn't agree to actively hunt for her. I have a life of my own to live, and I'm not going to put it on hold for this.”

You feel a fierce burning within you as you say those words.

[Favour of the King of Hell +1]

“So you’re saying that you’ve not been out where she can find you” says the Sergeant.

“No” you say defiantly staring her in the eyes.

“Then what good are you to me?” asks the sergeant “Look, Shee, I need to know what this girl is up to, if you can’t, or won’t help me, then that’s it.”

“That wasn’t the deal” you say “I said if she contacted me again then I’d let you know, not that I’d start looking for her.”

“And I only offered you this deal because I thought you’d be places she was going to visit.” Says the sergeant “Is that not the case? Did I spend all that time on someone who can’t deliver? Are you going to encounter her again?”

>No (no details)
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)
>I’ll start looking for her, fine
>Other (what?)

>>37161184
>I’ll start looking for her, fine

>>37161184
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)

>>37161184
>I’ll start looking for her, fine

>>37161184
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)
Which she could have easily figured out on her own. Being a Duster and all.

>>37161184
>I’ll start looking for her, fine

>>37161184
I'll going out with my friend Ash again, she finds me interesting. *suppress a shudder* Provided you didn't scare her off, I think it likely. We all know how contrary Fey can be, she'll find me and you know it.

>>37161184
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)

>>37161184
>I'm a duster. I need more than the card to come and go from the hive. Surviving is an struggle for a duster and the Hive is expensive.
Let's see what she can get us.

>>37161184
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)
Unless she can find a way to conjure us some money to afford going out.

>>37161259
Try asking that instead of just saying no, then.

>>37161184
>I’ll start looking for her, fine

Don't worry plot hook, we'll find you.

>>37161184
>No (I rarely go out in the Hive)
Isn't this a huge megacity? what are the odds we happen to stumble over her?
I mean, we know the odds are good from a narrativ perspective, but from her view, the chances are basically nil.

>>37161247
This is good

>>37161184
>I'm a duster. I need more than the card to come and go from the hive. Surviving is an struggle for a duster and the Hive is expensive.
Favor check. Also a vote.

>>37161229

I'll back this, and this,

>>37161247

I only went out into the Hive with my friend Ash. I am a duster, so finding the means to go into the Hive is not too easy.

I'll see if I can set up another trip with my friend, to hit some clubs and see if I run into her.

>>37161280
Don't want my vote to be counted among yes, in case others don't vote for similar conditions. I rather not go.

>>37161307
Then vote for the write-in about that instead of flat yes.

>>37161247
I like this as well

>>37161323
The write-in wasn't supported by anyone by the time I had voted.
And its supporters can largely still not vote properly.

>>37161361
It's tied currently at 5-5. Improper votes still count most of the time.

>>37161404
They infuriate me though.

>>37161423
Don't let your hate control you.

>>37161184
>>37161259
Alright alright changing to
>>37161247
Hope you guys have a plan what to do about Rainya if we do this.

>>37161465
What does Rainya have to do with this?

Ok, that's an interesting result.

Asking for money it is, writing

>>37161475
She's a friend who we're abandoning eventually.

>>37161475
We kinda need someone to look after our daughteru will we are out putting ourself at risk of Quinn encounters.

>>37161487
Doesn't need to be money, if she knows another way to make it cheaper on us, that works too.

She could accompany us for example...

>>37161539
That sounds fun.

>>37161539
>She could accompany us for example...
Hoping too much there, she got a job.
Would be nice of course, but not likely.

>>37161539
Oh man I like this as well!

“I’m just a duster” you point out “Life is a daily struggle out there, I don’t have the money to go out every evening on the off-chance I might meet her, and on the of-chance that evening is one she just happens to go to town on. What makes you think I’ll even find her?”

Sergeant Yonsul pauses then says “And if I got you the money to do that, would you?”

“Would I what?” you ask

“Would you go looking for her?” She asks

“What’s the catch?” you say.

“Oversight” she says “I’d need to meet with you regularly, and have a reason to meet with you, the cloak and dagger bullshit only works for occasional meeting. Now, can you think of any reason I can either be seen with you regularly, or be arresting you regularly?”

“Can’t you?” you snark.

“I don’t know you girl” she says “I need a reason you can be seen with me.”

“Why?” you ask

“I can’t have people wondering why we’re always meeting” she says “C’mon, you think you can fake a drugs habit, or know any vamps who will pretend to be your abusive boyfriend, have any illegal guns you can be selling, because otherwise it’ll look to anyone who is watching that we’re dating or something. I need a reason so everything thinks that’s why we’re meeting. Because we *will* be seeing a lot of each other if I’m funding your search.”

What’s the reason?
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>Yeah I can find a pretend vamp boyfriend
>I can get some guns, sure
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story
>Other cover story (what?)
>Other comments/questions (what?)

>>37161697
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>I can get some guns, sure
Alternitavely
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story

>>37161697
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story

>>37161697
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story
Gives us a reason to go out too, but incase she isn't comfortable with it
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit

>>37161697
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>I can get some guns, sure

>>37161697
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>Yeah I can find a pretend vamp boyfriend

>>37161697
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story
Drug habit isn't something we should, you know, *fake*, Thats a bit too close to the truth.
Guns would get us into longterm trouble and make her wonder where they are from.
And while the thought of Ashley being rounded up and put into a cell on a regular basis amuses me, I don't actually dislike the poor guy enough.

>>37161697
>>37161756
This.
>Ask her if there is anywhere she is more likely to be

>>37161697
>>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>>Yeah I can find a pretend vamp boyfriend
>>I can get some guns, sure
We can do all of these.

>>37161697
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit
>Yeah I can find a pretend vamp boyfriend

i'd rather avoid weapons. unlike the drug habit or the fak vamp boyfriend, weapons DO cost money.

>>37161697
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story

Still best girl.

I'm curious, the people picking multiple options, are you wanting your cover story to be that you're a drug-addict gun-runner with a vamp boyfriend?

Because that sounds like a very busy cover story.

>>37161697
>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story
If she isn't comfortable with that.
>Yeah I can *fake* a drug habit


>>37161849
Why would we, though? We only need one reason.

>>37161869
>drugs don't cost money

And you guys voting for the abusive boyfriend do realise how this would be really bad for Ashley?
Don't you guys realise that he would be an "abusive" boyfriend? That can seriously wreck his reputation with people that aren't assholes like Quinn.

>>37161884
Just giving he options to pick. She knows the hive best after all.

>>37161884
I had intended >>37161721
If she doesn't like that we go with financing drug habit with gun-running.

Ah ok, so multiple picks are saying you can do these and letting her pick.

I like that idea.

>>37161884
>drug-addict gun-runner with a vamp boyfriend and cop girlfriend
Ftfy

>>37161697
>>37161831
this
least dangerous

not sure where all the hate for Ashley comes from again. I mean, seriously people. We don't have to interact with him, doesn't mean we need to destroy his reputation.

>>37161963
We shadowrun now.

Ok, writing offering her all the options.

Before anyone objects she'll pick one and ask if that's ok before its final.

>>37161884
Don't forget we can be a single mother left with the child of our previous boyfriend too.

>>37162043
Uhm. Most of the options like the boyfriend and gun-running have only minimal support.
Why a revote? Because one guy wanted to offer her all?
As I see it we offer a choice between Drugs and dating?

>>37162043
Sounds good.

>>37162075
I also wanted to offer her all the options and let her pick

>>37162043
So we just vote again?
What was the Point of this vote then? Only a few People wanted to offer all choices.
Ist funny, but not really conducive to running the story.

>>37162111
I think Pally is going to have the cop narrow it down to the most workable ones, this gets us in better with the cop and still lets us choose.

>>37162043
I actually don't want to tell her about our ability to get guns?

>>37162152
It would just be a fake cover story, we wouldn't actually tell her about the guns

>>37162146
She just listed the workable ones, thats where we got the default options from.
Its not like the majority voted for combined stuff to begin with.
And
>>37162152
Has a point, what about the people that wanted to leave stuff out on purpose?

>>37162170
No, she asked if we can get guns. So for that cover story, we would have to tell her we can.

>have any illegal guns you can be selling

Don't get me wrong Pally, I like that you try to find compromise. But we got a pretty clear voting trend here, and telling her all the things is something that some people clearly don't want.
And only very few have actually asked to do.
Its not really a compromise.

>>37162225
I'm >>37161831
Fine with it, as long as it falls under the guarantee of stuff he won't have us suffer from later.

ok, change of plan, again. I will comb through all votes before this post and try to find the option with the highest number of votes.

If more than one has the same number of votes I will offer each of those to her as a choice, she will pick one (if more than one is on offer), followed by a yes/no vote from the players.

In future I will try to be more clear about votes, thank you for your patience, this may take time.

>>37162312
9Drug
8Dating
Most of the Dating/Drug are combined to offer her Drug if she doesn't like dating.
Followed by
3Guns
3Boyfriend

>>37162363
AA to the rescue!

>>37162312
Or you just go with the vote most often made.
Regardless of what combination and then just offer that.
Like always.
I can get this annoys you Pally, but it isn't a lot expected to just take the votes as they are.

>>37162389
I'm not AA.
Pretty sure he would have been faster and more precise then me.

>>37162415
You did a good job, anon.

>>37162415
are you sure? you sound like an alcoholic anonymous.

>>37162363
Thank you.

As has been pointed out out some of the drug votes are conditional on the dating being turned down, so I'm writing dating then if that's denied, drugs.

>>37161697
Late as hell but I like

>Hah, you and I dating sounds like a great cover story

“I dunno” you say “You and me dating sounds like a fun cover story”

The sergeant just gives you a level look and shakes her head.

“Ok” you say “Yeah I might be able to fake a drugs habit, just make sure that it’s you arresting me ok, and not some stranger please, I don’t really want to go to jail.”

“Fine” she says “I’ll make sure the other cops know you’re an informant of mine, if they do bust you, all they’ll do is toss you in a cell and call me, can you work with that?”

Can you?

>Y/N

>>37162533
>Y
Spoil all my fun.

>>37162533
Y

>>37162533
>Y


>The sergeant just gives you a level look and shakes her head.
Awww damn. Why even offer then Pally?

>>37162444
Hey, Pally. Since it seemed like at least part of the reason for turning down the gift from Ichor was because people didn't want to go through with a contentious vote so soon after the last one, is there anyway we could just put it off later?
It sucks to lose out on a gift (when they get more and more rare as time goes on) due to meta reasons.

>>37162533
>Y
How often do you want to do this? I don't want to get fired from my job if I can help it.

>>37162533
Y

Yeah us dating that would.. never happen...

You're a really good kisser.

>>37162533
>Y
>just don't let my work know

>>37162533
>Y

So, Demon King guy, you were saying about helping us with our harem...

>>37162566
We made our bed now we have to lie in it. Thems the brakes.

dating the cop wouldn't work out guys. We're a rebel, she's the law.
that being said doesn't mean i don't want it.

>>37162533
>Y
I should have known best girl is not a slut like Shee.

>>37162566
That would again require revote for the people that wanted to deny it for other reasons.
The choice was made. We will have enough opportunity to get gifts from Ichor.

>>37162605
She doesn't want a filthy dust rat like shee.

>>37162605
>We're a rebel, she's the law.
But thats what makes it good anon!
Fighting on different sides of the Law for justice and against corruption!
And we would only be pretending.
At first.

>>37162648
You know it'd screw us over like The whole Lirael reading minds thing anon. Stop thinking with your boner.

>>37162533
Hmm >>37162638 I'll borrow this.

"Heh.. yeah. Who'd want to be with dust rat like me anyway."

>>37162566
What this anon said
>>37162585

Writing final update. Then I will address the ever-lengthening list of criticisms.

>>37162674
I fail to see how these are at all similar situations.
I hadn't expected Pally to go with it anyway. Too easy, he had promised to make it harder this time.

>>37162698
My only criticism is that everyone is voting for things I don't want and they need to stop!

Seriously though, thanks for running Pally!

>>37162698
>Then I will address the ever-lengthening list of criticisms.
Huh? Which ones?
>>37162564
This was a joke in case that didn't get across. And I can see that it might not, all things considered, sorry for that.

Can't really think of any currently outstanding criticism. At least none currently relevant to be adressed, anyway.

>>37162705
Seems like a good/fun idea at the time then get us in deep trouble. In the mindreading case damaging our relationships with our resistance friends and getting Rainya hurt, as well as making Lirael wary of us.

>>37162745
Doesn't matter. She's best girl. It'll be just a guise at first.. but it'll start to mean something.

>>37162745
>Seems like a good/fun idea at the time then get us in deep trouble.
No, the mindreading never seemed like a good idea to anyone as far as I could see.

And it worked out pretty fine, we just gotta fix stuff with Rainya and we are better off then before.
Same thing here, sure it would bring some trouble, but do you honestly think the drug thing won't?

“I guess I can work with that yeah” you say “So how’s this going to work?”

“It’s going to take time for me to set up” says Sergeant Yonsul “We’ll meet here tomorrow evening and go over the details, but the basics are this: I’ll provide you with cash, you find her, and from time to time I’ll bust you for possession and using. You tell me everything you know about her, if you don’t, well, I’ll now have a nice long rap sheet to threaten you with.”

This deal is getting worse all the time...

“And how are you going to explain why I keep getting busted but never charged?” you ask her.

The Sergeant just looks you up and down “I’ll think of some excuse as to why I’m always letting you go” she says with a wink.

Oh yay...more *cover stories*...

---

Thread ends there, you have gained 7XP from actions in this thread.

I hope you have enjoyed yourselves.

I will address some of the concerns raised today in my next post.

>>37162728
>Can't really think of any currently outstanding criticism.
Maybe the "telling Saras name" thing?
Not sure if that counts, it was just a minor goof as it is.

>>37162772
okay and how do you think she'll react when if she finds out about us being a Rebel? I can't se this relation ship going the distance with out a lot of lies, and i don't want to lie to people we care about.

>>37162840
We'll come clean and it'll be heart felt. It'll also allow us to gain favor with one of the five. That way we can work to gain with all of them instead of just one.

>>37162787
Most of us voted for it after we failed at talking so it did at the time. Rainya still doesn't trust us and is disgusted by us. We in her mind left her to die to molest a kid.
We also lost rep with the rest of the resistance.

Just because we got lucky in one clusterfuck doesn't mean we will again. I could list several ways this could go horribly wrong. Her finding out we're a rebl and going after us, her finding out and get mind pinged, the strength of our love towards her being noticed by Kae, Her finding out Lirael and reporting her, etc. Relationships built on lies do not usually last very long once exposed and a diplomancer we are not.

>>37162828
Thanks for running Pally, I did enjoy myself, all hickups aside. You are doing a good job, when we hyell, its just because you mader us care so much.

>>37162840
Thats true for basically every friendship we make. Hell, it would still be a problem now.
I would consider a opportunity for roleplay and a good story. I'm not super keen on it, but it could work, it would just take effort, which is good.

>>37162885
Mind readers ping her we are fucked, she's only human so they'd have no compunction about it.

>>37162888
Limited contact reduces the risk, constant time together? She's going to figure it out.

>>37162887
>Most of us voted for it after we failed at talking so it did at the time.
I voted for it despite not being a good idea, because I figured that was no not-catastrophic way to get what we want here.
And we lost rep with Dev, oh noes. Rainya is the only loss we suffered there.

As for the Cop romance. Who ever said it would be flawless and without difficulties? maybe I'm not interested in that? Maybe I want a relationship that needs fighting for?

>>37162919
>Mind readers ping her we are fucked
True for everyone living inside the Hive except Kae, maybe.
This is a rebell quest, there is no such thing as playing it completly safe. You just have to decide what is worth what risk.

>>37162919
Mind readers ping her.. we're fucked because FAKE DRUG RACKET. Is worse than fake relationship.


And if she's faking a relationship it just seems like she's not into it and using us. Which is fine. Or.. that she is developing feelings and.. is in a relationship. which is fine.

>>37162963
>>37162919
In addition. If they read her they find out her contact is a rebel. Making the contact valuable.

>>37162885
I could see a relationship based on lies and deceit gaining favor with mirror god and shadow god.

Fuck heart felt, make her your bitch.

>>37162989
No.Best girl is best Girl. Not bitch.

>>37162929
With the rest of the resistance as well

>>37162956
Ash would be safer considering he's nobility, but yeah if she finds out we are dead.

>>37162963
Or she finds out we're a rebel and they ping her we're dead. They don't care about drugs or dating.


>>37162982
Yeah so they can kill us and the rest of the resistance.

>>37162989
That would be the Kings business, I'm sure.
I would be very much down with finding out who makes who her bitch here.

>>37163014
We're not the rest of the resistance. We're a rebel. Singular. With a contact with a few others. Not the entire group.

>Another lesbian pro tag
Please don't.

>>37163041
They find us grab us, read our mind, grab the other or most of them, do the same, domino effect. I mean if the can ward a room and keep us from apporting they could just wait for us to break from lack of vampire bites.

>>37163014
>With the rest of the resistance as well
Who gives a shit? What exactly do the give us?
They need us as much and more than we need them.

>Ash would be safer considering he's nobility
He is not. He is a vampire, but among them he is strictly lower on the ladder then, say, Quinn. Who also can get mind-reading powers btw.

>Or she finds out we're a rebel and they ping her we're dead.
Thats still true for literally everyone. There is and will always be a lot of people who will be endangered by this. Thats pretty mucht he risk of being a rebell.

>>37163074
I'm with >>37163084

>>37163058
Why? Why should gender even factor into love interest choice?

>>37163058
nomaly I'd be with you anon but if it's with the cop I'm going to have to vote for it. that being said, People would need to convince me that dating a cop would be viable in the long term because right now I don't see it happening.

>>37163123
not that anon but because it always fucking lesbians protags.

>>37163014
>Or she finds out we're a rebel and they ping her we're dead.
She can still find that out.
Sooner or later we will get into more conflict with this system anyway. All of our subplots lead there.
What we need to do is make people our allies so when the cards come down, they stand with us. Regardless of who we are talking about here.

Samefagging votes and Final Destination

I understand people don’t like samefagging, I get that it is a problem, especially on some votes.

What I disagree with people on is the solution. Calling a Final Destination vote for close votes and/or ones where there is a lot of vote duplication (on one, or more sides) is not a perfect solution, but I believe it to be the only workable one, and yes, calling it when several votes ask for it is I believe the right solution.

If anyone has any realistic solutions to this problem, I’m willing to listen.

Asking me to shut down or call votes early with obvious samefagging or to (apparently) railroad in favour of one side or the other is not a good solution as I see it.

QM writing things the players have not explicitly asked for

Yes, I admit, I forgot Ash was present when Sara Yonsul arrested Shee, I could handwave it by saying Ash forgot her name or something, but I’m big enough to admit when I fucked up.

I figured it would be a good joke to have Shee admit she kissed a female cop so Ash could do the typical *thats hot* thing. I only threw the name in there as Sara is a feminine name rather than a masculine name rather than having Shee simply say “No it was a woman”.

Regarding the most recent vote I thought it was clear that *what’s the reason* meant only pick a single option (as in *what is the reason we are meeting?*). However I did not make this clear to people voting, resulting in the current tangle, that is my fault and I do not blame anyone for misinterpreting it.

Then, since so many people had voted for multiple options, put conditional votes down (dating then if no, drugs) plus a lot of vote nesting (This) I thought offering the sergeant a choice was an interesting compromise.

As is quickly becoming a habit I posted what I was writing to give anons a chance to disagree and/or offer suggestions.

You can see what happened.

>>37163126
Might happen over time in the future. Way too early to tell. The fake dating wasn't any more risky than the drug thing, real dating would be, but I think you'd be be a bit too hasty to thing one would always lead into the other.

It seems in certain areas players would prefer I rigidly follow the vote, except when I should override it.

I confess to not being able to know when I should exercise discretion in interpreting player posts, and when I should just follow the highest voted option without any editing.

I am sorry I have let you down in this way.

I welcome all criticism and feedback, even the *blind dumb monkey* comment, and I ask anons if they have any suggestions on how I can improve as a QM.

I don’t know when next thread will be, I’ll post a 24 hour warning on twitter when I do.

>>37163084
1. No woman is an island and during the war there were psychics and we still got our ass handed to us. Resistance gives us logistics and a safe place to rest.

2. Kind of why we aren't dating him either, we don't want to be find out, we have a strong will and are psychic Ash is a pushover and cop lady doesn't have powers. Meaning they are easier to break in.

3. We get found out before we are in a position to do something about it a fey or vampire lord would drop us like a cheap phone. Going all MUH waifu/husbando this early will get us killed.

>>37163149
Limiting contact makes it harder for her and safer for us, and just because it leads there doesn't mean we need to highlight ourselves now while we are pretty weak.

>>37163234
>Going all MUH waifu/husbando this early will get us killed.
I think people overestimate how much influence the fake dating would have on this.
It doesn't work like that.
And the Resistance can't afford to throw us out in the first place, no matter how much Dev might whine, and as I said. Rainya was the only loss we suffered there, because she actually helped us.

>>37163148
The events in other quests aren't a valid reason. I usually choose between love interests based off their appeal in some manner, gender is not one of the criteria.

>>37163227
Keep doing as you do. People are bitching like they always will. Thanks for running dude.

>>37163234
Waifuing is going to happen. Period. It better be wit h the best character.

We're not dating Ash because he kind of sucks.

>>37163227
>*blind dumb monkey*
It was blind deaf monkey, in reference to the three monkeys, who can see and hear no evil.
It wasn't a insult, it was a reminder that it isn't helpful to act as if no obvious judgement call can be made by yourself.

>>37163308
all I'm asking for is some verity.

>>37163288
Still that's what most anons wanted tog et U/ off the bat. They don't wait or take kindly to not getting their waifu.
I agree it doesn't work like that but the more time we spend with her more risk we put ourselves in. Trying to get us not found out especially since we can't Fel to save our lives.
We keep being a detriment instead of an asset they will either cut us loose or put a bullet in our brain. You better believe most of the rest of the resistance leaders in the area know we fucked up and almost blew cover.
>>37163321
Regardless of Ash's suckitude, trying to waifu someone not really into us who is duty bound to stop us is not going to go well. Especially since she made it clear she doesn't like us like that. Player not thinking can get Shee killed, nearly did when we first fought Lirael.

>>37163350
Hellborn. Straight protag. Good quest.

>>37163350
>>37163378

Magical Green lantern is another.

>>37163378
And anon still pushed all male cahracters away, until the QM slapped one on their faces.

>>37163350
Too bad. I'm not going to refuse to consider a more interesting female character just because other quests go down the same path. Gender isn't the point, it's how interesting the character and their interactions with the MC are.

>>37163401
Bullshit. Hellborn tried to go after wolfgang and the suddenly he had a girlfriend.

>>37163405
Lol she's female must waifu is what Tg/ does most of the time along with voting futa in chargen, bonus if its a loli.

>>37163327
What would be the obvious judgement call?

>>37163431
Do you actually have an argument or is this just going to be shitposting about how anyone who considers a female romance option is now a waifufag?

>>37163452
To choose the option he wants of course.

>>37163202
>Calling a Final Destination vote for close votes and/or ones where there is a lot of vote duplication (on one, or more sides) is not a perfect solution, but I believe it to be the only workable one, and yes, calling it when several votes ask for it is I believe the right solution.
The issue is more calling FD on votes that aren't unclear at all.
FD, is not meant to combat samrfagging, its supposed to narrow down choices to two absolute options.
For any other purpose, it does not serve. You are free to do it, of course, if you are satisfied with the result, people will yell either way.


>As is quickly becoming a habit I posted what I was writing to give anons a chance to disagree and/or offer suggestions.
Which works pretty well, at least in that instance I found the commentary to be quite civil. And the argument of not wanting a complete revote and its implications was a sensible one.

>>37163452
Ya know. Just thinking about it. Have you thought about a strict 10 minute voting period?

>>37163378
Thanks I'll check it out

>>37163400
Fuck that QM and his dead dog.

>>37163405
fair point

>>37163460
Well notice once it was pointed out that /tg/ actively tried to go after a guy in hellborn the comment was ignored.

>>37163424
First husbando was Ro.

>>37163424
Yeah, after 50 threads of choosing only Rowan and the goth chick to interact with.

>>37163497
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hellborn%20Quest

>>37163460
Just saying it's a trend, if you're doing it for actual relationship reason more power to you, wish most other anons were more like you. Just most anons do not and if they don't get what they want they pitch a fit, look at PGQ or MB:DEQ

>>37163508
A few exceptions to the general trend. shocking.

>>37163452
If one option only trickles in slowly over several minutes after the overwhelming majority had voted different, thats something you can't really pretend isn't fishy as hell.
You can keep your hands clean and decide to just call FD whenever people yell for it, but then you have to live with the anger and frustration resulting from it.

>>37163491
Thank you that's very helpful.

I wasn't planning on a complete revote but rather a straight Y/N vote after Sergeant Yonsul picked the option that she thought would work best for her, just as wa done with the winning option (drugs).

>>37163494
Thought about it, but don't want to because sometimes people ask questions, discuss options, change votes etc, plus I can sometimes be away from the computer during votes, which would raise questions over whether a vote was in under the time limit if I didn't post closing the vote.

That said, I'll give it some more thought.

>>37163562
I agree that its suspicious, and it could be samefagging, or it could be late voters.

If I were to call votes and declare that the last X votes did not count because I found them suspect, that raises another set of complaints.

I may have to consider fixed times for all votes.

>>37163658
Fixed times is fair. 10 minutes is good I suppose. I can say I'm usually late to the party. Quest tends to be going on while I'm working on other things.

>>37162828

Thanks for the thread OP! Awesome as usual.

>>37163658
>I may have to consider fixed times for all votes.
That sounds like a sensible option.
I would suggest 10 or 5 minutes. Thats the usual standard. Probably better 10.
And if you are concerned for late write-ins, and clarifications.
You can always extend the voting period for a time after you made your clarifictation.
Or if a lot of vote changing happened according to a write-in, you just ask for a clarification vote. That happens too, its not the same as a revote, because you narrow it down. Thats what FDs were there for originally. Similar to what happened to the Vote on how to react to her asking if we have sought Kae out.
If people change votes a lot to a new option, you can always look how it works out, and if there is too much vote nestling, by which I mean "this" votes that don't link to your original one. As long as the new vote isn't a rehearsal of the first one, its not a issue. The problem with the "cover" story vote, was that the winning vote, of "offer X if she refuses Y" did take your assumptiom of one cover story into account.
Even just flat out revoting between the offered combinations would have worked, not every re-vote needs to be linked into the story, it goes faster sometimes if it isn't.

You shouldn't be concerned about announcing the closing period, unless the vote really runs hot, because people can just see the timer for themselves.

>>37163202
Well one posible solution would be for regular players to start tripfagging, perhaps at start of a thread, and then give their votes priority, only counting anonymous votes are split and there's no clear majority.
A dedicated samefag could take multiple personalities I suppose, but it would be onerous to bypass post timers consistently, especially on final destinations.

OVerall I would have preferred simple armistice and pledge from everyone to not samefag, but that's completely unenforceable.

>>37163828
What quests are these that do such short voting periods?

I'm worried that will kill discussion pretty hard.

>>37163859
>and then give their votes priority, only counting anonymous votes are split and there's no clear majority.
Thats completly unworkable. And a lot of anons wouldn't accept it anyway.
And samefagging isn't even that problematic except for a few key issues.

All good points.

I'll think about an post an announcement at the start of next thread.

>>37163859
>All players namefag

Dude. Fuck you.

>>37163870
Exalted Quest, though I'm loath to use it as example for anything, but at least the voting works fine. Some Akun quests, although talking is faster there too. Pokemon Quest does it. As some bigger examples.

Ten minutes is a lot of time to talk though,
and if the discussion looks like its still ongoing and votes are coming in and changing, then Pally can just extend the voting period.
Or just say, discuss it for X minutes, and then new votes, if its really bad. As long as there is a clear system behind it, and not the whim of screamers, it works out.

Hell, even if Pally says "FD always for Power votes", that works too.
In the end, there is no system that can take it from Pallys shoulders to make a call on when to call a vote nil or when to accept it. Thats something he has to do on himself, because anjy sort of system can be misuses to force revotes and what-not.

>>37163889

yes, because the inane stigma of being a namefag, because of it supporting personal attacks over meritoric arguments, because it would be unfair towards people not adopting a trip or being unfairly suspected of samefaggotry.
I'm not thrilled about the idea either, just presenting one possible solution.

Partial solution could be just regular tripfagging, without any mechanical or rule changes, just to erode the anonymity that supports samefagging.

>>37164022
That would just reward high effort samefagging to be honest.
FD samefagging is at least equal opportunity in that everyone can do it anytime.

>>37164042
True. I don't think there's a good solution to this problem.

Aside from, obviously, not samefagging.

As with, generally speaking, plenty of other issues where few cunts can ruin the day of everyone else, like fraud in general.

>>37164022
>because of it supporting personal attacks over meritoric arguments
Thats pretty much the main point, combined with
> the inane stigma of being a namefag

The anonymous thing had a purpose once, and it still does. It allows for people to communicate with eachother without the baggage of past missteps in conversation to taint the new discurse.

Thats pretty important, I might jest if I call Mathrian out, but I assure you, some don't.

>>37164127
>>37164022

Anon is needed. After all.

I vote to intimidate.

>>37164127
It's more the baggage is socialised onto everyone else and people, without fear of repercussions, are acting like assholes, tainting the discourse in a completely new way.
But you're right, it has its merits.

>>37164143
Are you a big guy?

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>>37164127
>Thats pretty important, I might jest if I call Mathrian out, but I assure you, some don't.

>>37164217
6'1 283 lbs.

>>37164188
>without fear of repercussions, are acting like assholes
I could only agree with that if tripfags had less of a tendency to be assholes. Its the anonymity of the internet itself that does that, having a name you can sehd any time doesn't change anything.

The bottomline is. You can't remove samefagging. You can try to remove the things people samefag over or argue over, like PoJ did it with banning romance. Although that was a slightly different issue.

You can try to make it harder. Short voting periods, although that only helps little.
Announcing and 1minute FDs are another way. But that still doesn't actually remove samefagging except in such cases where the overwhelming majority has one opinion, samefags will always be able to sway contentious votes. Its something you can only life with and try to not let it bother you too much.
Honestly, the yelling and accusations before and after those are worse then the samefagging in them.

>>37164322

That yelling and accusations are people rightfully pissed that their votes have been invalidated by people abusing the anonymity. They are annoying, but very legitimate expressions.
If they were not there it could be that either people came to terms with being fucked over - or are simply not following the quest anymore.

>>37164322
>>37164371
GAAH NORMALLY I'D VOTE 2 BUT THIS TIME ONE IS TOO CUTE.

>>37164322
>>37164371

I vote one. It's the super nice option!

>>37164411
>>37164412
Both me. Names stop nothing.

>>37164371
>They are annoying, but very legitimate expressions.
They are, but not very helpful. Pally has, objectively, no real way to distinguish one yelling from another. Which is why its usually best to just not listen to any yelling and carry on. If people have a legitimate complaint, they can articulate that.

>>37164429
Do you don't know what trips are?

>>37164447
notice that those were 2 seconds apart. Trips mean nothing.

>>37164447
I can generate trips man. It might slow me slightly but if I wanted to same fag I'd be able to do it with names to. I'd just create a handful and if necessary I'd make little notes with them. Hell I may even make a false flag or two and argue with myself.

>>37164472
Wut? So you do really not know what trips are?
The idea anon had was so we had a regular cast of players whos names we would know. Not that any tripfag is counted.
That was the entire point.

>>37164500
Right. I'm saying I could regularly samefag with trips.

>>37164522
Everyone could, thats what >>37164042
Already said a long time ago.

>>37164429

They do. You would have to roleplay a personality for each distinct samefag and you'd have to do it over long period of time to avoid being called out and ignored.

>>37164560
Really? How exactly would I have to play a distinct personality for each?

It could just be that those people agree on the topic. Hell not everyone is going to get into long winded character discussions either.

>>37164594
Everyone including the anon who posted it knows it doesn't actually prevent samefagging, only makes it slightly harder.
In the span of a 5min FD you can easily generate 15 votes, with basically no effort.
Try maintaining 15 tripfag identities is a lot harder.

>>37164594
Not him, I GM. I play different roles of characters on a regular basis. Sorta my favorite pass time.
>>37164633
Yes, but you are not voting for an option no one supports dude. You are backing your favorite side. Meaning it only takes a few extra votes not a land slide.

>>37164594

And it would take effort and dedication on your part to not be found out when you mistakenly post under wrong name, for instance. It's been already said it's a weak method that's also bothersome to random players that did nothing wrong.

It's still amusing to watch how you fight against it.

>>37164660
Fight against it? It will never happen. Just trying to point out the flaws. You would kill off most of the players and I'm not sure it would last on 4chan for too long as a trips only club.

>>37164658
>Yes, but you are not voting for an option no one supports dude.
That has happened twice in this quest actually.
At least two cases where it was really obvious that only a miniscule amount of actual supporters existed.


We already established that samefags will always be able to sway votes that are contentious.

>>37164703
I was for playing as Raiyna but switch to Shee Hyul due to a tide of votes for her. I was for the addiction. Missed the blood part because I had to stop at the post, but wasn't bothered by it.

Wanted CQC or Pistol.

As far as powers went I think I voted "STOP" but then samefags took over for teleport and understanding. Sided with teleport during the FD because understanding feels like trying to play a copy of the other quest.

>>37164697

Oh I harbor no delusions in that respect. I would probably not even vote for such measure myself. However I wonder how many players have been killed off by samefagging already.

>>37164773
What are you trying to say?

>>37164658
>Meaning it only takes a few extra votes not a land slide.
If it only takes a few votes, that at least means there is a legitimate backing for that option. That is as close as you can hope to get to make sure nothing completly retarded and outlandish gets chosen.
Can still happen of course, but you have never 100% safety.
All anti-samefagging measures, can only ever be measures that skew the weight of the votes towards legitimate voters and limit the samefags number of potential votes, you can't remove them, but the more you shrink that, the more wieght legitimate votes have. Which is all you can really hope for.

>>37164797
Maybe that the entire quest feels like samefagging to him? The only thing he ended with is the drug addiction.

Pistol and CQC lost. Rainya lost. STOP. Lost

>>37165088
CQC did win though? We ended up having that. And none of the early ones were stuff where you had any particular reason to call samefagging, because of a huge flood of people.

The only problematic ones among those were the power choice among those. And maybe Shee.

Has everyone looked at the new peripherals for Apport? What do they think about them?

>>37165088
>STOP. Lost
If that is what he meant, then I have to apologize to him again, I think I already did it in the thread.
I was not going to let that Understanding faggot force it on us, by being really blatant about it.

I did samefag Teleport. And I feel really bad for having done so.
Because it was the highest voted other choice by that point.

If it makes you feel slightly better, I was for Throw Him off.

>>37165297
Dimensional Arsenal will be amazingly useful.
Nothing else really to be said. Both are pretty good.

>>37165333
Hey me too!