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You had planned on getting ice cream for some reason, your logic being that it would make everyone happy somehow, but you are uncertain if that is all you want to do in life. You could also try and find another target for your insatiable appetite for destruction, as well as your appetite for cannibalistic indulgences, and the other sort of appetites you have. You could also want to go check out what’s going on in certain people’s lives, or unlives as it were. You hear a got sounds and—oh! You gave Sin-Fin a goat you won in a drinking game! She likes goats, while we find their eyes creepy. You look up, then back to the shrine. Sin-Fin is still probably in her murderous depression, Jager is still doing some sort of paperwork, Ryoko is off being a teenager, your Plantbro is likely being adorable, Caede is also adorable but not as much as Hillary, and your toes are somewhat cold! Curse that frog and his toe chilling magics!

What’s the plan man?

[] Wait, collect for Ice Cream, then get Ice Cream.
[] Go see Azzy at her club.
[] Go see Sin-Fin, make sure the goat didn’t goat her.
[] Check on Jager, you gots some stuffs in your brain parts about her.
[] Other, please specify
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Intro Crap: http://pastebin.com/mzS6YN7P

>>37142185
>[] Check on Jager, you gots some stuffs in your brain parts about her.

ask her if we can make an ice cream sundae on her abs

I hope Jagersperg from ask.fm goes away

>>37142185
[] Go see Sin-Fin, make sure the goat didn’t goat her.
Do not ignore the sin fin.

>>37142185
>Collect plant bro, Jager, SIn-fin, Get Icecream.

>>37142275
Also a good question for her.

>>37142185
>[x] Check on Jager, you gots some stuffs in your brain parts about her.

Should we collect Plantbro and Sin-Fin, too? We can take them along on our daily routine that will last all of ten minutes and get them to socialize with everybody around the shrine or something.

>>37142185
>Go see Sin-Fin
I submit to the horde of terrible ideas that making some progress with Sin-Fin is a good idea, not just because it would make her a more effective ally, but it also might make Jager think us more trustworthy and thus letting us help her more, seeing as last thread Jager called us out on possibly doing more harm than good by doing a nice thing for Sin-Fin and then immediately ignoring her.

>>37142295
Ah Forgot best scrub! Best scrub should come too!

Fairly sure we agreed to buy TSSA at the end of last thread.

>>37142185

Well, dwelling on all of those failures right out of the gate kind of has me down. Anyway, seems folks wanted to get Operation HW going today, and I want to see some progress done on that. There's a lot of shit to do to get shit done. Tell me what you think of this as a preemptive strategy, folks:

> Contact Lucy
> Tell him we are going after the Hellfire Wyrm as a service to him and to help us uphold our end of the bargain with him
> Ask that he kindly request Natsuki help us with more than just the Angel attacks on the shrine (read: Mendel)

> Contact Mendel
> Tell her we want a deal settled in hard print and signed off with terms we won’t break (by pinky swearing, promises to the doctor, etc).
> Be frank with her, we don’t want to have to watch our back for her while we are dealing with the angels, which is a threat we both share impeding progress to our respective goals.
Note: This is not a trap to lure Mendel down so we can eat her. Still can’t believe Azure misinterpreted that last time with “amnesty for a visiting agent”.

Conditions:
> We get our scrubs back.
> She gets a voice on our shrine’s council (I’d request Polite Scrub, for the irony).
> Trades in valuable research material or progress will be handled on an as-needed basis.
> We both get an end to hostilities so long as no one gets an itchy trigger finger.

> Launch Operation Angry Iguana
> Get Azzy’s help tracking their position (She’ll enlist Mephy if necessary, I’m sure.)
> Bring Azzy, Sin Fin, Jager, Ryoko, and Caede along.
> No perfect plan from here.
> Go, fight, win!

Haha, time for fluffy tails!

>>37142185
>[x] Check on Jager, you gots some stuffs in your brain parts about her.

>>37142335
I'm for it

>>37142295
Jager is busy right now with paperwork, we were gonna get ice cream with her when she was finished.

That's what the first option means.

>>37142335

Yeah, I believe so. It had a solid amount of support.

>>37142335
That's right, and I said I wanted to wait until the start of this thread to see if there were any major objections. There seem to be no major objections, so buying now.

>>37142359
Oh.. well shit.>>37142295
swapping to Short fin. Suppose we can talk to that depressing void.>>37142185

>>37142348
>>37142275
>>37142310
Guys, before you pick this option, it might be a good idea to figure out a specific goal of what we want to get out of talking to Jager, like what we want to convey to her, and what outcome we would like her response to be.

Otherwise it's going to just be dithering around.

>>37142185
>[] Go see Sin-Fin, make sure the goat didn’t goat her.

>>37142342

It's worth noting that we can discuss plans to kill HW over ice cream with all of the gang plus Azzy. This simply gives us something to do in the meantime, while we wait on Jager.

>>37142440
what, you don't read?
>ask her if we can make an ice cream sundae on her abs

>>37142342
I disagree with this course of action, as I believe that neither Sin-Fin nor Jager are in good combat ready states at this point in time.

Instead, I propose that after checking on Sin-Fin, and perhaps getting Ice Cream, we talk to Kuebiko about how one might reach Izanami the traditional way, and go on a quest for that purpose. We will likely face some powerful opponents along the way, possibly gain a strong ally (and give Sin-Fin someone she should in theory be able to relate to, thus maybe making her less sad) and clear the way to Izanagi, who might be fun to destroy.

>>37142529
Mmmm Abs.

>>37142529
I read. And I don't think that is likely to lead to a good outcome or even a particularly humorous one at this point in time.

One thing that might be a good idea though would be to find some way to persuade Jager to wear that collar that Asmodeus gave to her.

Ordinarily I would be suspicious, but I think in Jager's current state, I believe that loosening up and learning to enjoy herself might help her be less miserable.

However, how to talk her into doing such a thing is another question entirely.

>>37142440

Well, I think someone tried to ask for story options on the ask so that we don't have to start this on an awkward attempt at conversation. The bottom line is, Risa can't do this by having the angry voices tell her to yell at Jager to not be depressed. We need Azure's help to make her receptive to change, to make this part of a natural process.

What ended up happening was misunderstandings and people yelling at people that they were other people and thus should shut up.

I won't say whoever stated things in the perfect way, but I personally want those options. Believe it or not, some of us have depression and the bottom line is that you can't just change a person who has a sever emotional disorder. You can't just yell the PTSD out of them. They have to decide to come to terms with it themselves, to choose to live a happier life. You can help them reach out by being approachable, but you can't pull them out of the water or they'll just fall right back in.

>>37142676
The collar fucks with her mind. So I'd say no.

Jager? Dealing with your issues on your own or with our help? Nah let's get magical mind fuckery in here to warp your perception.

>>37142696
Are you the guy who just constantly repeated the same nonsense and wound up pissing off literally everyone who so much as glanced at Azure's ask?

Because that isn't how it works, you know. We need to find the right angle to show us being helpful, which is pretty much what I just fucking posted.

Doing something without a plan and expecting the QM to just make it work is not only a horrible idea, it's also why shitty things keep happening in this quest.

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“Sin-Fin may be being goated.” Not a thing. “Shut your mouth. To the shortest of all fins!” You declare and make a romp over to her place in the Shrine.

You climb the wall, then roll into her room. You strike a pose, and when you look up you are face to face with the square eyes of the goat lord. Goat-Fin? Sin-Goat? Needs work. Anyway you glare at the creature, who could fill the night sky with all the fucks he does not give, then look up. Sin-Fin is sitting on her bed looking at a small book. It is “The Never Ending Story”, translated in Spanish to—Oh, I get it.

She looks up at you, then back down at the book. She gently strokes the cover, and seems hesitant to open it. “Can she even read Spanish?” You wonder. Come on, she’s an arrancar! All hollows are Spanish. This is some simple shit.

“Hola Funny-Fins.” You say sitting down on the bed with a smile. “How you doing?”

She looks up at you, then at the goat, then back to her book. “Nor…mal.” She explains, and the wave of depression that fills the room at her words almost makes you want to gag. It doesn’t seem to bother the goat though.

“Because the goat is magic?” You ask, and Sin-Fin looks up at you concerned, and without understanding. No, because goat don’t give a fuck.

“Well, don’t you want ice cream?” You ask.

“if you want… it.” She says.

“Come on! It’s wonderful and sweet and cold!” You say.

She looks down at the book. “Everything tastes the… same.” She mumbles, and you are not totally sure who she is talking to.

[] Ask her about something (The book maybe? She is a bugger to deal with. Oh, uh, write in maybe.)
[] That goat though
[] Look at her collection of things. We never did that before
[] Other, please specify

>>37142784
>[] Look at her collection of things. We never did that before
an insight to her to mind hopefully.

and anons, stop making me hate Jager through not fault her own.

>>37142784
We can read the book to the goat!

What.. she has a collection of things! LOOK AT THE THINGS WITH THE GOAT!

>>37142676

Leaving her out in the cold when we could invite her to something fun is not going to help anything. We are inviting her because she is a part of our family, and we don't get to spend enough time with her. Hell, Risa doesn't even have any reason to suspect that Jager is horribly depressed (since it hasn't really come up in story).

Giving her mind altering magic isn't a good idea. If nothing else, please remember, Azzy's collar loosens inhibitions. It doesn't and won't make her happier. It will just lower her ability to hide how deep her emotional pain might be running. That could be helpful, or it could just be embarrassing for her, or it might just give her the courage to do something we will all regret (killing herself, in case you missed my meaning).

>>37142784
>[] Look at her collection of things. We never did that before

Ask her about the things. Story-time with Sin-Fin

>>37142841
We never revoked the invitation though. She's still planning on getting ice cream with us, as soon as she's done her paperwork which she got from... somewhere. I'm not quite sure where. That was where we left off on the last thread.

And it is true that the collar might be negative, but if that is the case, then we just have to remove it from her, even if that means breaking it.

I feel like by this point, we really shouldn't think Asmodeus would intentionally screw us over, and Jager did accept it as a gift, despite knowing the nature of it.

>>37142818
I'm not sure how hating her would be a reasonable response. Do you just not like people talking about her, or the idea that allies require maintenance?

>>37142776

No, I'm not. I am the one who tried to translate what that other anon was asking so Azure could answer the question properly rather than having a pages long back and forth that was getting both sides noticeably more irritated (which was made worse when Azure threw up his "helpful" player feedback posts, which was more inflammatory than anything else posted).

I would disagree as to whether what you posted is a good idea for a solution (assuming you are >>37142676), but that is neither here nor there.

>>37142957
Azzy won't Intentionally screw us over. She want's everyone to do what their baser impulses desire. Meaning Jager could instead of acting like her calm collected self. Go pound The Great ME! Or just put Risa down because right now she's holding back for a friend. The collar. Alters her mind. A Bad Idea.

>>37142987
There's so much sperging surrounding her it makes me just want to avoid her.

>>37142784
>dat Fin

>>37143102
>There's so much sperging surrounding her it makes me just want to avoid her.
I blame the umpteeth kidnapping.

>all this attention on Jaeger and not giving Sin-Fin any in the middle of her own update.

[x] Look at her collection of things. We never did that before

This doesn't have a tilde, but I'm still sure it's bad idea. Oh, well. Best to start showing more interest.

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You look over at the various objects she has around the room, and decide to go look at it. “What do you mean you get it? I don’t get it. What’s the deal with the book?” You wonder. I get it.

You look over the things on the shelf and recognize some of it. You see a small stuffed animal owl she got when you all went to the zoo, a fish picture from the aquarium, a metronome from when she was part of the faculty of the school, and of course your short bread you gave her when you first met. However, the rest of it is random stuff that you have never seen before. There is a snow globe, some small cracked gears, a feather that hums softly with grace that sort of makes you hungry, a picture of what looks like Sin-Fin and some people you do not recognize that has aged considerably, a small collection of books that are in various languages, and a pair of sunglasses.

“This is certainly an odd collection.” You say looking over the stuff.

She looks over at you. “I had more but… they got lost. Or they got taken. Or people broke them… in front of me because… I did something.” She says.

“Because you did something? What did you do?” You ask.

“I don’t know but… it was probably… my fault.” She says.

“That’s depressing.” You say looking over the stuff.

She is not saying anything. Anything interesting you?

[] The books. Seriously, I don’t get it. Tell me!
[] Look at something else (write in)
[] Nah, let’s just go do something with the fin. Ask her something maybe.
[] Other, please specify

>>37143102
Could you be a bit less buzzword-y with your objections?

What particularly do you dislike, beyond people showing an interest in her character arc and trying to figure out how best to help her?

>>37143177
>snow globe
Rosebud.
[x] Nah, let’s just go do something with the fin. Ask her something maybe.
-[x] a picture of what looks like Sin-Fin and some people you do not recognize that has aged considerably

>>37142987
>>37143102

Well, maintenance is one thing. I think right now we might be looking at more of a reconstruction effort judging by what Azure has said over the ask, which I hoped wouldn't be the case.

I mean, had she been just a Nazi scientist, maybe we could have dealt with that. But she was actually Super Nazi Jager, the greatest, evilest Nazi to ever live. She was also a tragic figure, a martyr and a rape victim. I... I don't know how to begin counseling that.

>>37143177
[] The books. Seriously, I don’t get it. Tell me!
Sin Fin! Read Risa story! With the goat!

>>37143226
For christ sake man. By being her friend and showing interist in her like we have been. Not slapping a mind altering band on her.

>>37143177
[] The books. Seriously, I don’t get it. Tell me!

>>37143177
>[] Look at something else (write in)
the metronome.

Did you like teaching? wanna have a jam session? maybe let her strum on Idemeque a bit

>>37143177

> Did you get the book from someone special, as well?

>>37143177
>[] Other, please specify
Break it. All of it. It's the only way to free her from the past.

>>37143306
>She looks over at you. “I had more but… they got lost. Or they got taken. Or people broke them… in front of me because… I did something.” She says.
>“Because you did something? What did you do?” You ask.
>“I don’t know but… it was probably… my fault.” She says.

Please don't bully the Fin.

>>37143245
"If I can't cheer you up, can I be sad with you?"

>>37143292

What would happen when Sin-Fins Depression Aura mixes with Idemeque's Insanity aura?
Mass suicides?

>>37143364
Would that make Fin try to force Risa to be cheerful?

>>37143252
Then why the fuck does the collar even exist in the first place? Consider that it wouldn't work on us or Sin-Fin, and instead of a bracelet or a ring or whatever, the artifact took the form of a collar, and Jager is still at least mildly wolf/dog themed. Having her wear it is the obvious purpose of it, and I choose not to believe that AE would give us something that exists only to make things worse.

Now, I will admit that it could be that there would be better times than others for her to wear it, and this could be a bad time, but I do not agree with the notion that she must never wear it ever, because to me, that doesn't really make sense.

>>37143377
only if she covers Judas Priest

>>37143404
Jaeger will do it when she's ready.

Or if. But probably when.

>>37143177
Ask her if she'd like to go back to teaching, since I'm pretty sure Ryoko is in school, and it would give her something to do.

Also, do we have a bass guitar on hand? I'd kind of like to form a band, and I feel like that instrument might be the least likely to fill everyone with despair who hears it. That, or drums. You can't convey sorrow with drums.

>>37143404

Umm.... It was actually a gift meant for Ryoko. She has kind of a BDSM kicker and she wanted Risa to do naughty things to her. Azzy just gave it to us because she thought we'd have fun with it.

Azure mentioned it was more than a throw away item, and there was some brief issue over it that ended with it going to Jager. It wasn't really "meant" for Jager in that sense. That's just where it ended up.

>>37143404
>give us something that exists only to make things worse.

Really? How about that poker game? That Let's Take Power! We need that!

Not every option is an open free for all of good or useful. When we got that we were just mindlessly trying to get Jager to fuck Risa.

Or how about taking Luci's deal and becoming Risafur.

Not. Ever. Option. Is. A. Good. One.

>>37143507
Every*

Christ even better >>37143481
If wasshis face is accurate then it's for best scrub to do.. weird shit.

>>37143481
Huh. I don't really see how that works, since Ryoko is more than horny and uninhibited enough without an artifact to reinforce those characteristics. Especially since that wouldn't make us any more capable of receiving her advances in the way she wants.

>>37143507
>Or how about taking Luci's deal and becoming Risafur.
That one was actually a good option. It would have just added some more angely beamspam things to Risa's buy sheet.

>>37143226
they/you don't shut the fuck up and hijack the thread with meta.

>>37143551
And altered her mind and perceptions towards Lucifer.
>>37143544
Throw away item. Forget about the dam collar. It's not an instant cure all. How is mind fuckery a good idea to you? That's the no better than Mendel option.

>>37143177
Ask her why she's wearing the harlequin outfit again. I mean it looks good on her, but I didn't think she particularly enjoyed wearing it.

What happened to all those clothes Jager and us got for her?

>>37143638
Damn that's good but late. I'll second it though.
>>37143177

>>37143581
It's not really meta to be concerned about our allies. Apparently there have been plot threads that we haven't seen, and if nothing is done, bad things will result as a natural consequence.

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“What’s with the book? I don’t get it.” You say.

She looks down. “It has my name… on it.” She lifts the book and points at the title as if she were somehow proud of this.

On the title, in delicate handwritten scrawl, are the words “La Historia Sin Fin”. You nod, “Ah yeah, I see.”

She sets the book down when she realizes you are not as proud of this “achievement” as she is. You look back at the books, and frown. “So where did you get these things anyway? Seems a little odd for a hollow to have.”

She looks over at the books, then shrinks back a little as if afraid to answer this question, but she does so anyway either because of an unstoppable compulsion or because she is afraid of what will happen if she doesn’t. “They were a gift from a… friend. A very long time ago.”

“You fancy reading?” You ask.

She shakes her head. “He gave them to me because he wanted me… to be happy.”

“Where is he now then?” You wonder.

“I killed him.” She answers.

“Why?” You reply.

“I was supposed… to.” She says.

Helpful. “That reminds me! Did you like being a teacher?” You wonder. “You were certainly popular.” More popular than some people anyway. “I was best teacher.” You mutter.

She glances around. “I do not… know. I did not hate it.” She answers.

“More or less than fighting?” You ask.

She looks around, and you imagine a normal person would be in a cold sweat over the situation. “Mo…re a bit I think.” She finally answers little more than a mutter.

Seems she is undecided about the teaching thing. You did have some laughs, eh?

[] Ask her about something else
[] Take her to Jager and make her take you to ice cream
[] Why wearing the jester outfit again?
[] Ask her something else
[] Other, please specify

>>37143708
[] Why wearing the jester outfit again?

>>37143708
[] Why wearing the jester outfit again?

>>37143708
>Why wearing the jester outfit again?
Also, how's her hair looking? If it's tangled/matted, why not comb it as we talk to her? Pity it's too short to braid.

>>37143708
>>37143708
>[] Take her to Jager and make her take you to ice cream

>>37143708
>[] Why wearing the jester outfit again?

how does she feel about mimes?

>>37143708
Huh. When I google translated "Neverending story" I got "historia interminable"

Forgot that that's what Sin-Fin means.

>>37143708

> Take her to Jager and make her take you to ice cream
> Why wearing the jester outfit, but make clear that it looks good on her
> Call Azzy and get her to come for Ice Cream
> Ask her to bring Yuki, that little scamp

>>37143895
which would win, Sin Fin's Aura of sadness or Yuki's hotblooded shounen-ness?

>>37143880
Risa is laughter.

>>37143708

I'll second this option:

>>37143895

We do have a bit of breathing room as far as climbing the power scale goes. We should grind social links and try to better understand our buddies and see if we can help with any issues.

>>37143972
and you can't spell slaughter without laughter

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>>37143998
you know what builds teamwork?

heists! lets rob a bank

>>37144050
Well if we're gonna rob a bank, we better go big, and rob Mammon's vault of infinite wonders, and thus release Mammon into the world once more.

Because damnit, he's the only one of the Seven Fallen we haven't met yet.

>>37143998

I still would like to do something monumental over the next couple threads, like taking down the HW. It helps keep the pace going and helps ring in the New Year with some hard successes.

>>37144124

We should definitely set a goal for what we want to achieve for the next few threads. Or at least how we should go about doing stuff like that.

I'm just a bit worried that while all of this fighting stuff might be good for general bonding and stuff, it might not be so great for addressing our allies' social issues. Might have to specifically try to pry and prod to get them to open up, instead of just taking them along on something that we want to do.

Does Azzy have a card for Mephies Library? could we borrow it for Storytiems?

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“So why are you wearing the jester’s outfit again? Not that you don’t look ravishing, but we bought you a whole bloody wardrobe, didn’t we?” You ask.

“I didn’t want them to get… dirty.” She says.

You tilt your head. “That’s why God invented washers and dryers.”

“They will eventually… break. I do not want them to break so… soon.” She explains.

You note her hair is straight and wiry as normal, and consider buying her some conditioner or something to make it fluffy, then you realize a fluffy-fin would be too dangerous for your health. You finally grab her by the wrist and pull her away to find Jager for ice cream. You make sure to put the book away because the goat would probably eat it otherwise, then slide down the pole you had installed in the room. Sin-Fin weakly dangles from her wrist in your grip as you slide down, but you don’t mind it too much because she looks adorable.

You open the door to Jager’s office and see her looking over some stuff. “Jager! Ice Cream! We waited, then Sin-Fin was all ‘Like, oh my god, we need to, like, totally get ice cream’” You have a disturbingly accurate Valley Girl accent. “And I tried to stop her, but Ice Cream!” You say.

“Fine, fine. We can go” She says with a sigh. “Who did you want to come exactly?” She asks.

[] Is there anyone you particularly wanted to bring other than Plant-Bro? (Write in.)
[] Ask her something
[] Other, please specify

>>37144234
[] Is there anyone you particularly wanted to bring other than Plant-Bro? (Write in.)
Ryoko can come to.

>>37144234
>[] Ask her something
Jager attracts enough "attention" on her own. lets keep it small. no need to bring more when they'll just be ignored.

"Can I make a sundae on your abs? I'll let you pick the flavor of ice cream..."

>>37144186

I think this will be excellent bonding for Caede, who I know isn't derelict at the moment. I'm not really sure we can do a perfect, functional fieldtrip for the other two (Sin Fin and Jager).

I know Sin Fin wants to be closer to us though, and I suspect that if we bring Jager along, she will open up with some dialogue. It is better than sitting in her office waiting for her to do so.

Azure kind of mentioned that there are triggers, we just have to figure out how to expose them. Any and all stimulus is good for that.

I just don't want to take everyone out of the shrine without giving Natsuki an incentive to watch our asses.

>>37144294
>>37144234
Seconded.

>>37144234

> Invite Azzy and Yuki

Azzy's a laugh, we haven't seen Yuki in forever, and maybe bringing around a good thing Jager's done recently will cheer her up.

>>37144352
>Yuki is a shell of his former self being fed on by Azzy.

I don't think that's a good thing.

>>37144234
>“They will eventually… break. I do not want them to break so… soon.” She explains.
That is delightfully dark, AE. Sin-Fin seems to view centuries as the smallest unit of time. She is so intractable, because we are a delta spike.

>>37144124
I really don't think we're up to doing that yet though. Like while I agree with taking him down being a goal, I don't really think he's something that will make our allies better. It's more that defeating him is something done to demonstrate how much better they've gotten.

>>37144234
Just Jager, Fins, and Plant.

>>37144394
what quest are you reading? That is not what happened at all.

>>37144394

Well, this is a great question: Can we trust Azzy? Is the one good thing Jager's done just to feed a vulnerable teen to a sex crazed monster?

I'd like an answer to that. More seriously, I'm positive Jager has been keeping up with Yuki's health. She's responsible, and not constantly dragged off to every corner of the world.

>>37144294
I guess I don't really see what you expect to get from saying something so dumb.

Like at best it'd merit an eye roll and a sigh. Not even the good kind either.

>>37144440

Azzy kind of has... habits, and Yuki was described as sunken eyed and tired looking. When we were able to ask why Azzy had him building furniture, we got a tilde, meaning we probably didn't want to know.

She's kind of raping the dragon princess into a coffee table as we speak, and we confirmed that one.

>>37144440
yeah >>37144514
has it right. Azzy isn't a "good guy." At all

>>37144398
Makes me wonder what her jester outfit is made out of.

>>37144514

She was feeding off of his desire to be a good son or something, wasn't she? He might just be exhausting himself by indulging in his "vice" and all that.

>>37144444
>Can we trust Azzy?
Azzy has never given us a reason to not trust her. She has been on the level every time.


>>37144514
because he was building/moving furniture non stop on his lust for a parental figure to make proud.

>>37144481
If asking Jager dumb/outrageous questions makes her hate you, then Risa would be her worst enemy by now. chillax anon.

>>37144576
you are paranoid and have bad reading comprehension.

>>37144234
When she's not paying attention, steal a glance at her documents. I wanna see what she's been working on.

>>37144633
You're blindly trusting a demon of lust.

>>37144234
>>37144659
I'll second this.

>>37144659
Yeah what kind of paper work is she doing? That doesn't even make sense.

>>37144615

Thing is, Azzy's club is almost like a stomach. Remember all the times we have been there before and Azure told us that the feeling of decaying souls could be felt right before they disappeared into nothing? Azzy's club is like her stomach combined with an angler fish. She draws people in, convinces them to stay a while with the song and dance and the weakest never find the strength to leave.

She never forces them to indulge her. They do that on their own. Some may not want to leave so badly that they are willing to submit to an eternity as something other than human, but that is their free will, and not Azzy's place to question.

We love her, but she earned her reputation, and I don't think Little Sister Risa has changed her much.

>>37144683
Blind seems a bit harsh, since she's been willing to open up to us before, hasn't destroyed us the times we made her angry, and she almost got herself killed because she was concerned for our safety.

And come on, she's not 'a' demon of lust, she's THE devil of lust.

>>37144234

> Ask Jager what she's been working on

The shrine doesn't have a lot of infrastructure, meaning paperwork would probably exist to handle extrinsic matters. I'm curious who she's been talking to, but I'd make it clear that we value her service.

> Invite Azzy and Yuki

Then we'll get to the bottom of this matter

>>37144737
That's not much better. Either way. Azzy and her items need caution. If she slips up personally she may turn Risa to paste. Remember her last rage fit? When we left her in between worlds I think.. or was it universes or planes?

>>37144714
See here.

>>37144234

I'll also second these:

>>37144757
>>37144659

>>37144757
I'd rather do that later, where it might not upset Jager so much.

>>37144683
its been almost a year since her introduction. (thread 53, 01/31/14)
she has been nothing but nice, supportive, and helpful to us. Not once has she been intentionally malicious.

the two times she's been mad at Risa was when we peeked at her memories without her consent and when we left her in the weird place when we got the munchies, both reasonable things to a bit get pissy over and she reigned in temper on every rare occaision

>>37144774
She's chilled out from her wild and violent days.

>>37144714
> Little Sister Risa has changed her much.
why would Risa want her to change at all?

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“Can I make a Sunday on your abs? I will even let you pick the flavor.” You say wiggling your eyebrows.

“No” She answers briskly and, almost annoyed really. Like she doesn’t find your delightful suggestions as cute as she normally does. Odd, and not as palatable as I would like.

You glance at the documents on her desks and see a large amount of numbers, and figures, and maybe a graph. You have no idea what it means, but it is probably something relating to something sciency judging by the schematics she has on one of the pages. Interesting, why weren’t we briefed about this? There are also figures for requisitioning science items, and budgeting concerns for the shrine, and certain off the book projects. Very odd

“Maybe Sin-Fin is just filling her brain with sad stuff. Let us be off!” You say pumping your fist into the air like you just don’t care! Because you do not! You honky tonk woman you.

You pick up Plant Bro along the way and go into the town. On the way you pass by a van selling some sort of food outside your shrine, but you don’t pay it any mind despite the savory smell wafting out of the open windows. You go into the city and go into the ice cream place you took those people whose names you have long since forgotten. You give a call to Asmodeus and tell her to bring Yuuki, and she says she will see what she can do.
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>>37144879

Again, you are assuming that Azzy would turn the guy into mush. I wrote (>>37144714) mostly to point out the possibility and clue in those who didn't know/arrived late. Azzy also has learned self control, within reasonable bounds. She loves Jager and wouldn't want to hurt her by hurting something that could be construed as a child she sent her. I also don't think Azure is going to do something to force this delicate matter down a darker rabbit hole than it needs to go through.

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You sit down with your snack, and pass out the various treats to the others. Sin-Fin mechanically eats spoonful after spoonful, and you don’t think she is really tasting it, while Jager sips her float and just sort of casually looks out the window with a melancholic expression. Wait, they serve root beer floats here? Should have ordered that.

Rose looks between the group and gives you a difficult smile as if the atmosphere is getting to him. Seems your plant has noticed the atmosphere, but doesn’t quite know how to deal with it.

[] Talk to your plant about their life, because you will not be the one to bring anything up!
[] Ask Sin-Fin something
[] Ask jager something
[] Accuse one of them! Candle stick! Murder! Something!
[] Other, please specify
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>>37144982
>[] Ask jager something

in the words of Terry Bogard, ARH YOU OKAY?

>>37144982
Ask Jager what fun things she has been doing.
Do our best to be interested.
Maybe tell her Sin-Fin has a book...

>>37144982
>[] Ask jager something
S'wrong?

>>37144982

> Ask Sin Fin to slow down and taste the ice cream
> Get her a sample platter with just a taste of everything and ask her to pick out which ones she likes

> Ask Jager what the documents were about
Seriously, we could have and can help with inventory acquisition. We're not half the abominable wreck Azure makes us out to be most of the time. We actually help with getting shit done.

>>37144982
"Sin-Fin, you'll give yourself brain freeze if you eat that fast. ...Maybe? I still don't get the rules for ghosts."

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Is Jager making us a doomsday weapon as a gift?

how thoughtful...

>>37145111
>for ants
Why do you tease me so?

>>37144982
"So recently I've managed to make allies of both Odin and the king of all Frost Giants. What have you guys been up to?"

>>37145059
>>37144982
Seconded. We may be totally insane. But we've got moments of clarity and we can help.

>>37145151
the whole thing is in the quest's imgur bro

>>37145111

Given the present trend in Azure's logic, she might be building a doomsday weapon "for us" in a distinctly different sense. I wouldn't understand why, mind you, but it just seems to be the trend.

It confuses me in the same way that Azure is now writing out this bad blood between Risa and Jager, which has no cause to exist. I just hope she doesn't go "No, I won't tell you what I'm about, because you will just wreck all of my plans" or else we really will have trust issues.

I mean, maybe he's writing out her depression as passive aggression toward everyone, but I feel it doesn't do proper service to the fact that Risa and Jager have been best friends for years now.

>>37145270
Eh, she's not the same person now that she has her memories. Especially since she's smarter now. Smart enough to realize how shit we are and always were, and no longer have some kind of dependency complex to make her think we're anything but a liability.

>>37145270
I've seen this paranoia before with Sin-Fin and you know, I really am getting tired of this shit.

>>37145270
or she's trying to build a machine to stop/kill Old One Risa and is mounting pressure on herself.

She did get pissed over Risa not giving up the old one powers and loves her a good arduous nigh impossible task.

I think this is far more plausible then your more pessimistic wild speculation(and passive aggressive insult towards AE).

>>37145322
your gimmick sucks.

>>37145408

If we are recycling a plot that hard, I'll be a bit disappointed. It would be exactly like the angel parasite.

>>37145408
When she was on the video chat with Mendel, which was the first time we saw the new her, she didn't really indicate that she -liked- us, it seemed more like pity than anything else.

>>37145520
She referred to us as stupid, Really stupid.

She apparently thinks Risa has the IQ of a tictac.

>>37145496
Old One Risa predates the parasite thingy.

>>37145520
hot opinions bro.

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“So what are you working on?” You ask.

“A bunch of different things.” She answers.

You tilt your head. “Hey, you feeling okay? You are sort of off.”

“I’m fine. I’m always fine.” She says.

“Not too sure about that. Sin-Fin! Slow down or you will get brain freeze.” You say.

“I don’t feel… it. It’s fin…e” You say.

“How did she have the ellipses between the n and the e?” You ask. Shut your mouth, stay on your side of the wall.

“What do you mean?” Jager asks.

“Well you’re a bit off lately is all. Ever since you got captured you have had this sort of air about you.” You say.

She shrugs. “It’s fine I worked through it. You don’t have to worry about me.”

“Well I am a bit, you don’t really seem fine.” You say.

She seems a little annoyed. “Ah, I said I’m fine! Let it go!”

[] I’m not letting it go! I am seriously worried here! Talk damn you!
[] Fine, it’s none of my business anyway
[] Other, please specify

>>37145270
Of course, this fucktard has to show up in every thread from now on.

>>37145496
>angel parasite
You faggot. There was no angel parasite, only an alien one.
>recycling a plot
Foreshadowing.

>>37145552
[x] So, I'm worried about you. Are you worried about me? Should we be worried about each other?

>>37145552
>[] I’m not letting it go! I am seriously worried here! Talk damn you!

Or
>>37145597

>>37145540
Risa has the attention span of a cat. It could be mistaken for stupidity.

>She apparently thinks Risa has the IQ of a tictac.
Continue projecting more?

>>37145552

> I'm not letting it go! I am seriously worried here! Talk damn you!
> We used to be better friends than this! You used to have all the time in the world to listen to my insane ramblings! You always used to have the patience to laugh at my crummy jokes, to humor my weird antics!
> You aren't fine! Not by a long shot! Now Talk!

>>37145557

God, if it's one of the two I can't stand, it's you. Just like that one person on the ask, stop antagonizing people with opinions you don't like. That's what makes That Guys and feeds trolls.

>>37145597
Same poster here. If she answers that she's worried about us, we should try to reassure her. Somehow.

>>37145659
Might wanna consider dialing back on the aggression.

>>37145659
That's the worst thing to say, since it's not showing actual concern for her, but purely about us. I think >>37145597 might be on the right track.

Didn't it blow up in our face the last time we were in a scenario pretty much exactly like this? I think it was the time when we pestered her about why no second release.

>>37145552
>[] I’m not letting it go! I am seriously worried here! Talk damn you!

we look out for each other....

>>37145557
they're either very very stupid or are trolling.

>>37145552
This isn't the first time I have asked after you and you have told me to drop the issue. I know I am bad at this social interaction. Is this a "trust me" thing, a "I am to unstable to be of use" thing, or mystery box of emotions? Cuz I am terrible with social cues.

>>37145648
I'm just remembering what she said about Risa. It's hard to take that any other way.

Don't get me wrong I love the Wolfu... But I've got a feeing she lacks confidence in Risa.

>>37145552

I'll second this sentiment:

>>37145597

She's done so much for us, and we care so much about her. Please, help us help her.

>>37145721
>>37145738

Yeah, I'm kind of caught on the Risa border, where I don't know if we are the devil on her right, or ourselves trying to tell Risa what to say. Risa is selfish and prone to flying over the top. It's probably not the best thing.

In the end, I don't think gently pressuring her will work much better though. Again, I wish this was a more mundane tragedy so we could deal with it.

>>37145552
"Jager, I'm dumb and bad at people, but even I can tell that something's up. Nobody says 'I'm fine! Let it go!' if they actually are. But I trust you so if you say you're really really fine then I guess you are. I'm just worried."

Or don't say that. My writeins tend to go nuclear-bad.

>>37145552
We shouldn't be angry, since that'll just make her angry back at us.

"But I don't wanna let you go. I like you. We're partners, aren't we? Especially after all you've worried about me, I feel like I have a lot to make up for."

>>37145552
>[] Other, please specify

Psychologist mode Risa, Engage.

"So, the talking of your feelings causes great aggitation in you, Hmmm? Tell me, how are you relaxing after dealing with the day's intricacies?"

>>37145682
If your opinion is to misdirect paranoia to allies... I really can't be bothered to have patience for you.

>>37145763
We're not exactly a paragon of sanity anyone should have confidence in. We can accept this, or change ourselves, or make a rebuttal.

Very difficult to make a rebuttal, so I'll choose the first option.

>>37145795

God, I'm curious where your story is on that. Was it another quest or would you feel comfortable naming the incident? My worst was when I gave Azure a well thought out plan for bargaining with Mendel and he turned it into "Hey Mendel, come to my base so I can eat you!"

>>37145795

What I'm kinda afraid of is that talking to Jaeger will be like a .hack//AIDA level of dialogue challenge.

I mean, it was a lot of fun and rewarding to get it right, but holy shit was it exhausting to try to think of good ways to respond to certain characters.

>>37145552
"I know you don't wanna talk to me, because I'm dumb and flighty, and honestly frightfully unstable, but could you please consider letting in someone more qualified at least?"

>>37145838
Tons of quests. Pretty much every quest I've ever played in, I've caused or massively accelerated/intensified a shitstorm with one of my writeins.

>>37145857
The worst part is that not only do we have to figure out the right thing, everyone needs to agree upon it for it to work right. And even the OOC discussion has to be just right, else our frustration will be conveyed in Risa's dialogue.

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>>37145838
>well thought out plan for bargaining with Mendel
>filtered through Risa lens
>working
Huh, maybe if we were playing Jaeger at that moment.

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this is a riveting episode of "All My Fluffy Tails"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlMLh3Xpa78

>>37145909

Well, maybe Azure's feeling generous. We'll see how strong his conviction is to a good end here.

>>37145904
Eh, a number of my write-ins led to Risa's suicide by edgelord.

>>37145937
Heh. Enjoying the music.

>>37145961
You bastard. At least you weren't the guy who tried for a wrap battle with the afro.

>>37145956
I find that insulting by dint of indirectly accusing Azure of railroading.
>>37145961
Were you also responsible for the Path of Destruction?

>>37145909

That's what I'm worried about: the Risa-filter that our dialogue will go through. I mean, I'm hardly one for writing good responses to feelings and stuff, but delicate sentiments are something that she might not understand. I'm not sure if we can expose her to it enough for her to start growing a feelings gland in time, either.

>>37145994

There's no accusation of railroading in there, though. The fact is, our chances of trying to help Jager are dismal when it comes to words for all the reasons that post outlines. It's like saying, if the QM feels generous. Hell, at least I'm putting faith in him.

>>37145998
>Risa-filter
you mean being in character?

>>37145989
I was against the initial rap battle
>>37145994
Path of destruction wasn't me

In mitigation, I did a fair amount of the rhyming to get our gangsta docta, and the hollow quest shirt quote is me.

>>37145998
Maybe if we got return to your roots it'd be easier. Though fuck if I know how we're supposed to do that

>>37146128
Oh good, because that made me angrier than the rap battle. At least then we had an excuse.

>>37146093

We've passed this one around a lot, basically since the quest started. There's always been a question of how much we are supposed to be Risa and how much we are supposed to be the sage council in Risa's head.

If we were perpetually "in-character" we would have a terrible time with Risa. This quest would have long since broken and devolved into something completely dysfunctional because Risa, as a character, is nonfunctional and prone to violently stupid escapades.

Rap Battle was in-character. Saying no to Mendel for petty reasons was in-character. So, in the end, the question of how often we are supposed to be in-character and how much we are supposed to be sitting in the war room of her brain is the most fundamentally important that we don't have an answer to yet.

>>37146093
Being in character means being an idiot who only knows and really cares about fighting, and hurts everyone the more she's around them

>>37146164

Well, it's paid for, with probably more smut than you can shake a suggestively shaped object at. I kind of wished that he would just tell us what the pre-reqs are so that all of that hard work doesn't go to waste.

>>37146277
I would guess that this conversation might be one?

No?

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“So I am worried about you. Are you worried about me? Should we be worried about each other?” You ask.

“I just said I’m fine.” She answers.

“But you don’t sound fine at all. Not even a little at all!” You say. “We should, er.” You look up at your brain people as if not totally sure what’s going on in there now. “We should talk about it?”

“There isn’t anything to talk about.” She says.

“You have been weird ever since Mendel decided you are her favorite!” You say. “Like, come on, clearly something is crawling around your knickers and not in a good way! There is clearly something to talk about.” You point out.

She looks irritated. “What’s there to talk about? I was the worst sort of human being when I was alive, and did the worst things imaginable.” She says.

Progress! “That Nazi thing?” You wonder.

“Obviously the Nazi thing.” Fair. “I was a member of a group of people that even deranged sociopaths can say ‘At least I wasn’t part of those guys, eh?” The sociopath in her theory is Canadian. “I got over it, I’m fine.”

“You don’t sound fine.” You point out.

“Well I am.” She counters.

You poke at your ice cream with your spoon. “It happened to another person and she—look, the bird did what she had to for her kids, right?” You ask.
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She pushes the float away. “Only at first.” She admits. You are quiet, and she continues. “At first she had to do those things, but on some level she enjoyed it. She never had a chance to test her theories, and putting her mind against the greatest soldiers the allied front had to offer was intoxicating. Each victory made her smile cruelly, every failure gave her inspiration for the next plan.”

“Well, you have to find a way to love your work, right?” You ask.

“No. Not that kind of work. Not with that sort of life.” She counters.

Seems she is being more open right now.

[] Ask her about the war and all that. Her thoughts on it
[] Assert that they are different people, and Jager shouldn’t hold herself accountable for nazi actions
[] Demand an explanation about her talking to Mendel
[] Other, please specify
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>>37146383
>[] Assert that they are different people, and Jager shouldn’t hold herself accountable for nazi actions.

Hell if you were the same person you wouldn't be upset or having ethical crisis over it.

>>37146383

> So you can remember her feelings then?
> Ask her about the war and all that. Her thoughts on it.

When it's done though...
> Assert that they are different people, and Jager shouldn't hold herself accountable for nazi action

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>>37146383
>[] Ask her about the war and all that. Her thoughts on it

>>37146383
>>[] Assert that they are different people, and Jager shouldn’t hold herself accountable for nazi actions
If she was still the same person, then she wouldn't be feeling regret for her actions.

>>37146383
>[x] Ask her about the war and all that. Her thoughts on it

Hmm. Well, we can try distancing her away from the past or helping her accepting she's part Nazi.

Asserting that they are different people might be a tad difficult if Jaeger find out about Ryoko and loses her confidence on that conclusion.

>>37146277
Speaking of, Iskandertr needs to add the latest lewdfic to the writefag page.

>>37146383
>[] Ask her about the war and all that. Her thoughts on it

get it all out

>>37146383
You know, we should really try and find a god of therapy and dealing with your shit. Everyone in our group needs a therapist.

>>37146383
I'll second these:>>37146426
>>37146433

Jager has inherited those memories and experiences, but that does not make her the same person. This would be akin to a caterpillar metamorphosing into a butterfly. Even though they're both still insects and made of atoms and molecules and stuff, they're not really the same at all. She also has enough introspection and a conscience to have a moral dilemma over this, and that sort of thing certainly isn't a characteristic of a cruel Nazi researcher.

>>37146383
Maybe not literal different people, but she's certainly changed a ton since then. She even said it herself - "I was the worst sort of human being when I was alive" Was.

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>>37146383
>[] Other, please specify
"It's not like you were ACTUALLY Hitler."

Just spitballing stuff here, but should we even mention that we met Jager's former persona? Perhaps tell her what she said to us? Didn't Nazi-Jager ask if her other self was happy, and that she didn't want to return if that was the case? Or would Jager remember all of that since she has all of Nazi-Jager's memories now?

>>37146773
yeah, sure. tell jagerbombs she asked if jager was happy

>>37146773
Not sure if she would care that her other self wanted her to be happy the Key is that Other Nazi Jager Recognized them as two different people.

>>37146383

>>37146383
"And the wicked scientist's plans were eventually foiled, and she was held accountable to her crimes, and while I wouldn't say she was brought to justice, revenge will do in a pinch. And even after her ignoble, though arguably deserved end, her suffering was not yet over. Her soul itself broke, and took the form of a feral beast, consumed by its own despair, loneliness, and above all else, hunger. This pitiable creature wandered the earth for forty goddamn years, seeking to fill itself, to make it whole again. Eventually, it did so, through the addition of thousands upon thousands of other lost fragments of souls, but even with them to serve as glue, the pieces weren't put back in the same order, leaving a bit of a gap. And that new puzzle, thrust into a minimalist, Darwinistic limbo, learned how to trust, and eventually how to care.

...And now what? Now that you've seen how the picture was originally put together, do you decide that all that has happened in between doesn't count? I'm not going to talk to you about what you do or don't deserve, but who you were doesn't have to define who you are and definitely not who you will be."

>kind of tired and lost track of my point.

>I am pretty sure that is mine: Able to bond with your enemies when you have wrapped around them and use their flesh/organs/bones to augment your regeneration. Rather than regrowing a heart you can take it from someone else, if you can hold them and pierce them, crack them open, etc.(H)

Don't remember getting that. Neat tho.

>>37146383
I don't know how to fit this in, but I think bringing up that it's not like she was just all of a sudden nice after she became a hollow or even an arrancar. She was still pretty hard around the edges, and just had some loyalty to us. Like remember when she advised we kill Sin-Fin for her first betrayal? The compassion was something she learned and allowed to grow in her, just like the life she brought to Las Noches.

>>37147168
Hell IF we're going like that mention that She stopped Risa from being a Genocide machine. At least.. mostly.

>>37147168

Oh yeah, that too. She was a blank slate, and learned how to be the way that she is.

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“So you remember all of it?” You ask.

She shrugs. “The important parts at least.”

“So you had super ghost magic, but still lost? How did that happen?” You continue.

“The allies had their own programs, and I suppose we lost for the regular reasons people lose wars. Not enough bullets, beans, and bodies. Didn’t help that Berlin was full of idiots.” She says.

“Huh.” Captain America! “She was someone different you know. She wasn’t you at all! The fact you can separate you from her sort of shows that right?” You explain.

“I can’t just run away from who I was. It’s a form of denial I guess, where I try not to get totally crushed by the weight of the monster I am.” She explains.

“But you feel regret it right? That means you are different.” You say.

“You can only regret things you have done. It’s fine, not like it matters to you anyway.” She says.

Huh.
[] Yes it does matter to me! (Why?)
[] Well, they are different you should just accept that.
[] You and Mendel! Random accusations!
[] Other, please specify

>>37147202
>[] Yes it does matter to me! (Why?)
"Its important to me because your important to me."

the ask fm wouldn't have been polluted so much if it weren't true

>>37147202
>[] Yes it does matter to me! (Why?)
We're friends. Hell more importantly Risa has clearly established she loves Jager.

You care about the people you love. Seeing Jager upset makes all of us act like idiots en-mass.

To press home the different individual theory I'd say add these.

>>37147168
>>37146834
>>37147195

>>37147202
This may make it worse. Tell me if I'm being selfish, stupid, or both here.

[x] Yes it does matter to me!
-[x] You are my friend. And friends should help each other be comfortable with themselves!

Might want to throw in >>37146773 and >>37147168's points.

>>37147202
>[] Yes it does matter to me! (Why?)
Love you Jager. Do you not remember the part WHERE RISA STRAIGHT UP SAID YOU COULD KILL HER? THAT SHE'D GIVE HER LIFE TO YOU?

>>37147202

> Yes it does matter to me!
> Why? Jager, do you even need to ask anymore? It's because you matter to me you silly bent. You're the greatest friend I've ever had, someone whose been me through thick and thin through the greatest chapters of our unlives together.
> And because of that, I know when you're hurting, and it hurts me inside. The voices are literally hurling piss at the walls, and Monologue's probably gonna get cross soon.
> Smile, lass, because your beautiful and it's all she wanted for you, to live your life free of all those things she got roped into, to live happy, whatever that means.

>>37147202
Maybe it doesn't matter to Risa. Maybe Jager found out about the empty heaven room thing.

>>37147352
Yes.
> I trust you with my afterlife, which is more than my life. Ever since we took over Hueco Mundo and killed the king, I decided you have the rights to my unlife. If you feel like cashing in that check now I certainly won’t stop you

That limitless trust and willingness to die on her whims was forgotten.

>>37147202
>Yes it does matter to me! (Why?)
"It matters to me because you matter to me. Even if you tell me it is fine, this atavistic you stills weighs upon your conscience. It informs our interactions. Besides, what would you do if I suddenly became aware of my past and had a sudden change of demeanor?"

>>37147395
Empty heaven room.. thing?

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and here comes the write ins tsunami

>>37147202
I feel like there's SOMETHING we can say about Sin-Fin, given that she is completely and totally consumed by the weight of her past, as kind of a how not to be, but I don't want to hurt her feelings.

Should we mention that while Risa goes off on long benders eating stuff and not being there, it's because she's so terrified of what would happen if she couldn't step up in the event that something came to threaten Jager and everyone there? Risa is an incomplete being, but what pieces of her do comprehend friendship and caring do sincerely worry as much as they can about everyone's well-being.

>>37147430
Remember when the angels tried to mindfuck Risa and she ended up in that room that reflects your desires and it was just an empty white void of nothing and everyone was all "Ha ha you're an empty bitch" and then the mindfuck angel fell victim to monologue?

>>37147505
But.. we want Jager... and sweedish fish. Also.. probably uhm.. Shit.

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>>37147459
>and remember, no arrancar wants to be a Sin Fin

>>37147430
After Asmodeus got young again and Mendel blew up her base, Risa's soul gem was placed in a cell in heaven that Raphael told her was meant to show whatever she desired. Because it initially blocked out us, the voices, it remained a blank void, implying Risa doesn't actually have any will or opinions. Which... I really dislike, especially since it seemingly contradicts what she did when she was trapped in her soul gem without us or monologue, and it seems to be implying that the players are actively detrimental to Risa's growth as a person, and it's really hard to play if it feels like our participation is unwanted.

>>37147544
Or we're her desires and we're not apart of her. We're her humanity and we're trapped on fucking 4 chan.

>>37147505
Well, since it shows desires that we want...

Either we have no desires, or our desires are already fulfilled, and that's why its an empty room.

>>37147544
or the room doesn't work on Risa cats.

>>37147566
>Humanity
>4chan

>>37147395
>>37147430
>>37147505
>>37147525

Hollows of all sorts and sizes are incomplete beings, right? Or in Risa's case, she can't really feel as a normal human would, or as a more humanized hollow can. It could be that Risa does not have the capacity to process want in the same way that more complete beings do.

To use a crude comparison, it's like making a keyboard-detecting machine and running it on a smartphone or smart tablet. It can mimic a keyboard and carry out keyboard functions pretty well, but it doesn't have any actual keyboard.

Or Risa has what she desires already, and wants nothing more.

>>37147544
Or Risa just wants oblivion. It would make sense what with the life of thrillseeking/drugs/escapism followed by a train of suicide.

>>37147202

[Read to myself, in the voice of Bryan]

Well the world can be confusing
But don’t let it rot your head
Cuz’ life can be mad
But it ain’t so bad
There’s pity for the dead

Sides, you felt sorry in the end
Coming round that final bend
Maybe not enough you said
But here’s the rub
Please think instead

Of all you’ve done
And all you’ve seen
And through it all just how you’ve been
My greatest mate, a conscionable lass
And the only that keeps my ass

Trying so hard to be a better me
Cuz always I look back and see
You trying hard for other folks
When I would have just said
“Fuck those blokes”

But that’s who you are
My shining star
You care deeply for others
And are raising the bar
Of what being dead can really be
It’s why you mean so much to me

I still limbo under, needless to say
But don’t ever forget, for even a day
You are now who you chose to be
It’s the truth love, death has set you free

>>37147623
Bryan? Who is Bryan?

>>37147620
>>37147613
>>37147544
>>37147566
Or it didn't work because it's an emotional/mental magic thing and Risa has

>Mental unbalance: All mind controlling and emotional manipulation powers are weakened against you. Your schizophrenia means you are barely in command of your own mind, and the unaware will quickly find themselves overwhelmed.

on her sheet

>>37147670

Life of Bryan, Monty Python

>>37147623

Alternately,
> Panic
> "Plant Bro, get the delorean!"

>>37147688

That too.

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>>37147670
clearly this guy

>>37147688
Wasn't she totally lethargic and useless while in the chamber?

>>37147701
>>37147719

This too, I guess.

>>37147670
You mean Bryan, or Eric Idle, the chap beside him who sang Always Look on the Bright Side of Life?

>>37147778

Probably the latter. Good catch.

Risa tries to impress upon her just how much she cares. She follows up with one of her old rhyme and sing schemes to be sweet.

And Jager becomes incensed this situation is serious to her and leaves Risa alone with Melting ice cream, a chronically depressed hollow and a sad plant bro.

>>37147821
Yeah, I'm sorta expecting this to go about as well as the time we did a Don Kanonjii impression to Ryoko.

>>37147821
Sad cats and meltimg ice cream.

Thanks I'm depressed now.

>>37147623
I don't know if she'd be responsive to poetry or musical numbers.

That seems more like something Risa does to unnerve or irritate people, it doesn't seem like it would really make her feel better. Even if we abused our powers to generate a Disney style musical, I'm not sure she'd like it.

Which is a shame, because I think you have some solid content.

>>37147889
All in a days work.

>>37147887
Well hell if we actually sing that song in the voice of someone we ate instead of Risa's yeah it's going to go over like a lead balloon.

>>37147821
Technically unlike last time, this rhyme doesn't have any support behind it, precisely because we're afraid of what you just said.

Which is a shame, became fuck if I know what else we should do. This is why we don't do stuff like this a lot, the stakes feel much higher than mortal combat.

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>>37147821

Then she wishes that she never existed since she makes everyone so sad and fucked up, and prepares for one final laugh. Then suddenly...

>>37147899

Thank you for the compliment. I mostly just posted it because I scribbled it out, not because I expected it to get voted in as an option.

Or perhaps I am secretly plotting the saddest ice cream party ever (as per >>37147821).

>>37147956
we'd just eat the angel tbqh

>>37147623
>>37147202
I'll second this but if Jager leaves Risa alone with Melting ice cream I'll probably cry.

I'm a grown ass man.

>>37147956

So what restaurant chain are we killing ourselves in next time? What weapon?

I am personally imagining Risa trying to go out of this life the same way she came in, with a revolver, and just constantly pulling new shells out of inventory in industrial sized cases.

>>37148015
Well, I've never been to Jack in the Box...

>>37147975
Then we kill ourselves a third? fourth time? The suicide is in character.

>>37148015
No. Not sad enough. A cat consumed by depression... I'm thinking Risa or Kid Risa mode. we wander in front of a car and refuse to let ourselves regenerate. We allow the plot rock to die.

>>37148055
Plot rock cant be hurt by most anything.

>>37148083
So Risa rejects it. Removes it. However you color it.

>>37148103
Can't. It's her. If anything, her body is just a fleshy projection of the plot rock.

Suicide is beyond us. And is honestly too melodramatic a response right now, calm down.

>>37148103

She uses her god powers to remove the God Rock, make it an artifact revolver, and then kills herself with it.

>>37148103
you know, you could just write contrived melodramatic bad end pastebin fics and channel your antics into potential SPXP.

>>37148103
Also risa is probably too strong for a car crash to damage her. You would probably end up with a car wrapped around child risa.
>>37148130
Well we can but it costs SPXP.

>>37148153
So long as the last thing she does is laugh. I'm sold.

Probably a bitter choked laugh with tears streaming down her face.

>>37148161
Not the first time I've been told that. I don't follow the sheet though. I'm terrible with level ups and the like.

>>37148162
>Well we can but it costs SPXP.
That's the Divine godrock. The wimpy little white one we got from eating gods.

Old One plotrock too strong for that shit.

>>37148193
>>37148170
Well still, the only this accomplishes is making it even more likely Risa flubs this social interaction.

>>37148457
What how? Because Azure wants us to act out the bad end so he can write it?

>>37148487
Because the tone of the thread influences the tone of what Risa says.

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“Course it does Jager! Because you matter to me, you silly bint! I bloody love you, so of course it matters! Think about it in the reverse, what if I was troubled about my memories of the living world?” You wonder.

You look off into the distance and things get hazy as you flashback to the time when you were alive. “Hello there Risa, my what a wonderful day it is!” Sir Worthington of Delaware says.

“Just so. Shall we ravage each other?” Madam Delaware asks you while lustily removing her bonnet.

You smile as you take off your shirt and—“SCREEEEEEEE!” The life bandit bursts through the wall and violates your stomach with a chainsword that blooms carnage flowers into your brain.

Your flashback ends. “Why was everything on fire?” You wonder. I don't bloody know. Anyway Jager, I love you, you sexually confusing, muscular, German wolfu thing.” You don’t even know what that means. “I offered you my unlife! That is way more important than my life! I was all ‘Oi, you want to kill me? You damn well can if you want!’ Then you almost did and I let you!” You say.

“We see how that turned out.” She mutters.

“The bloody hell does that mean?” You ask.

She sighs. “Nothing. It doesn’t mean anything.”

“Passiveness doesn’t work on me! I get confused and scared! Be frank with me, or I’ll cry!” You shout. “The voices are throwing things at each other, and at me, and one of them is wearing a fox full body costume, like an animal mascot, and I don’t bloody well know what that is supposed to mean! He has a hole in the groin, and he is making hissing noises at me! That’s how bloody well upset I am!”

“That’s—what?” She asks.

“He licks my ear when I sleep sometimes. Sometimes he says my mother’s name.” You look over at Plantbro who is sharing a face of confusion with Jager. “He knows. Anyway, look if you are feeling miserable about it we should talk! Maybe have a nice cuppa.”
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“If it mattered to you, you would have checked in after I was feeling better after my ordeal. Maybe figured out I wasn’t that good at thinking! You said it yourself when you talked to Mendel and—“ Your hand covers your mouth. Damn you for being so slow hand!

“Like I said, it doesn’t matter.” She sighs.

You look around. “Look, hey, there is more bothering you right? Hey, we should talk about it, this—I just want us to be mates again, like in the old days. You have had some troubles, and maybe I haven’t been paying enough attention to you but we can do better. We can fix this.”

She sighs and you press it and start singing a song from something about a Brian spelled weird.
“Well the world can be confusing
But don’t let it rot your head
Cuz’ life can be mad
But it ain’t so bad
There’s pity for the dead” You say and hear a snapping as Asmodeus walks over in a waiter outfit to join you.

“Sides, you felt sorry in the end
Coming round that final bend
Maybe not enough you said
But here’s the rub
Please think instead” You both sing, and you think you have a good vibe going.

She slams her hands on the table and pushes herself up with an irritated look. She frowns and says “My issues aren’t a god damn spectacle, and I’m not putting on a show in a shitty ice cream shop.”
(2/3)

>>37148553
Dammit Risa you're too crazy to comfort people. I never thought I'd actively be considering how to make Risa not Risa.

>>37148606
Well, dammit.

>>37148606
Hah called it. Risa sits alone with melting icecream. So! Who votes suicide?

>>37148606

Hey Azure, that had one vote. Please don't cause problems that don't have to exist.

>>37148666
I think the meltdown would have happened anyways and the song wouldn't have mattered.

>>37148606
Pretty sure we did in fact check in with her about the nazi thing. More than once even.

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Smooth as a bowl of cement with nuts in it.

>>37148666
It doesn't really matter. We didn't figure out the right thing to say, so this outcome was inevitable.

>>37148657

Second.

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“This establishment is anything but madam!” Asmodeus objects.

Jager glares at her, throws some money on the table, then leaves the building. You reach out for her in a futile gesture, then slump on the table. “Was that a bad time for me to step in?” Asmodeus asks.

“Welp, time for me to kill myself again.” You say with a look of confidence.

Madoka looks at you in a way that implies they think you have that as your default reaction to a few too many situations, but a plant talking would just be silly. “Should you chase after her? She seemed a little upset.” Asmodeus says.

"Think I should?" You wonder.

"Well, I certainly would, but then again I am not exactly people, now am I?" Asmodeus titters. Think that's a word.

[] Nah, I am tired of dealing with it. Where is Yuuki?
[] Nah, I will talk to her at the shrine later
[] Yeah, probably should.
[] Other, please specify
(3/3)

>>37148685
I don't recall that, actually. Maybe one or two sentences, but not a vote.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

>>37148696
[] Yeah, probably should.
God. Dammit.

>>37148696

> Yeah, probably should.

Damnit Azure, we're not letting it end like this.

>>37148696
>[] Nah, I am tired of dealing with it. Where is Yuuki?
we'll get to it later
lets allow cooler heads to prevail.

>>37148696
>[] Yeah, probably should.
GIVE HER OUR HEART... we don't need it anyway...

Maybe Yuuki could cheer up Sin-Fin with his eternal Optimism....

>>37148696
>[x] Yeah, probably should.

So, do we have a plan, or...

>>37148696
[] Yeah, probably should.

>>37148696
>[] Nah, I am tired of dealing with it. Where is Yuuki?

give Jagerbombs her space

>>37148748
We tried the plan. And creative writing. That failed horribly. So no plan might work.

>>37148696
>[] Yeah, probably should.
All in mothefucker.

>>37148696
>[] Yeah, probably should.

>>37148696
>[] Other, please specify
Explode body with ceros and fire a hellbreaker straight up and then just sit there not regenerating from plotrock state.

>>37148696
"And do what? I either stay here and make her think I don't care about her, or I go out there and just make an ass out of both of us and don't reach her at all. Sin-Fin, your thoughts?"

>>37148713
I could be wrong but people were saying something about it. If they didn't vote on it back then I am going to take it as more evidence that we are all dumb.

>>37148772

Man, friendship is a two-way street. If she has issues, she had every opportunity to come to us to vent or to lean on our shoulder to cry. She thinks we didn't care about her? Then we would have left her to rot and not have passed up all of those upgrades. Maybe we need to stop being so apologetic and let our frustrations loose on her. If she's not willing to make this work and refuse every olive branch that we extend, then perhaps this is a lost cause.

>>37148828
That's... pretty much exactly what she wants us to do to her, which is why we can't.

>>37148748
no, anons are relying on RPGs and dating sims to understand human nature.

letting someone blow off steam is a foreign concept to them.

>>37148865
I mean, are arguing that the fallen angel who is thousands of years old and is an expert in human nature is leading us astray?

>>37148828
Sometimes I wonder how effective it would be to speak of the time she died and we cut off fate breakers to bring her back.

>>37148828
>not have passed up all of those upgrades
>let our frustrations loose on her
>refuse every olive branch that we extend

How emotionally distant were you with your parents? Because this awfully sounds like the 'busy parents that ship their kids to private school while they work and emotionally neglect them while expecting them to love you' sort of relationship.

>>37148814
That's stupid and overly dramatic. A suicide should be nice and quiet.

That way someone has to go looking for you.

>>37148828
That's probably what we're doing by following her. A sort of Goddamnit Jager.

I mean fuck we power leveled her. Dragged her kicking and screaming into reality. We came into her own mind and saved her the last time she had a crisis of identity.

Apparently none of that matters. What the fuck else can we do?

>>37148865
I think it's more the cycle of abject neglect to helicopter-Risa back to neglect and repeating over and over and over. It happens every time we try to "help" an npc. We go all out on either letting them 'blow off steam' or we go all out on trying to talk to them, and it just ends up pissing them off because it's really bad, so we just do the complete opposite next time.

>>37148920
We tried that she rolled her eyes. It was a, Yeah Okkaay sure whatever Risa.

>>37148932
>>37148828
That's really not a good attitude to have in this case. It should be concern for her sake, not our own inconvenience or investment of energy.

>>37148956
Makes me wonder if others even realize that plantdoka was ever actually dead.

>>37148828

You're right on blowing up at Jager being a candid, human response at this point. Jager has been acting like a terrible person, if not a terrible friend for a little while now, and I wouldn't associate with her were she one of my friends in real life.

However, that isn't the right action for helping her out of this shit. Azure is writing her like he thinks a depressed person should act. All we can do is keep pushing and wait for Azure to throw us a freaking bone, since all of our effort and sincerity just isn't good enough to capture this elusive prize.

>>37148932
>That's stupid and overly dramatic. A suicide should be nice and quiet.

>That way someone has to go looking for you.

No, a suicide should be loud and messy and unpleasant for everyone who has to deal with it as a final middle finger to everyone.

Also, it's a more intensive search to pick up millions of pieces than it is to pick up one body. Do plan explosion and they'll be looking for all the Risa chunks stinking up the place for years to come.

>>37148934
It's the same with fighting, how we alternate from paralyzing paranoia, to not-giving-a-fuck recklessness.

>>37148973
We are concerned for her sake. But every time we try to show it... We fail. So it's leading to frustration.

>>37148956
I'm sure I'd believe you if you actually showed us the posts for that?

>>37148987
What if when we follow her, we don't talk much and just kind of try to keep her company? Like let our continued presence do it for us?

>>37148934
Yeah, its pretty much this. Sin Fin got attention, then Jaeger, then Ryoko...

>>37148813
>>37148801
>>37148748
>>37148747
>>37148730
>>37148725

So what's your guys' plan(s) to get Jager to calm down?

supportive, Monty python reference, and pity didn't work. Maybe some kind of tough love? call her out on her punishment desires? BDSM maybe?

suggest anons suggest!

>>37148987
Yeah, you're right. I'm just frustrated at all of this.

We shouldn't keep pushing for it just because she lashes out and knocks our hand away. She needs support right now, whether she likes it or not.

And hope that she doesn't have another anti-Risa weapon planted on her that she'll use in a pique of irrational fury.

>>37149013
Yeah.. I'd have to fucking find it.. and that's.. a not an easy search.

The unlife thing was easy to find I just picked that up over the last few threads.

Huh different thought.

Maybe Jager was hoping slapping Risa would knock some of the Crazy out of her?

>>37148987
And of course we left Sin-Fin alone and she quickly faded into the background, even though we were initially concerned with her.

So we're fucking up on two fronts.

God this is frustrating.

>>37149077

Jesus, I just came here to play a collective game, not run a daycare for the fundamentally broken and insane.

>>37149077

She has Azzy. She'll live, hopefully.

>>37149088
this

>>37149059
Ask her what she needs? Be frustraited. Not Happy. Just agitated and I don't know. Really. We've tried asking about this shit before and been told we wouldn't understand.

>>37149088
Absolutely this.

>>37149088
Hollows yo.

>>37149071
Therefore, it most likely does not exist, and people should stop doing this unless we can actually remember which thread things are in before making possibly wrong statements for decisionmaking?

I may be a bit rude, sorry.

>>37149088
>>37149110
And that, unfortunately, is the kind of attitude that means that this will never stop keep happening.

They'll never reach a more stable state if we just fuck off when we hit a rough patch.

>>37149088
>he said in HQR

>>37149088

That's kind of my thoughts on the whole affair. I love the characters when they are acting like themselves and being wonderful, positive people. This sort of awkward melodrama being shoe horned into the plot combined with the inherent ineptitude of Risa in dealing with these sorts of affairs drags on me like a lead weight.

>>37149148
It's not really shoehorned in. And Sin-Fin was never positive.

>>37149145

Okay, not run a daycare for more than one fundamentally broken and insane person.

>>37149088
>he says this while playing a fundamentally insane and broken character who surrounded herself with insane and broken characters of other various disorders.

"This is not a joke! You are not a joke! I'm serious! And you will not ignore me you depressed martyr complex afflicted prude!"

>>37149148
especially since its made out to be more important than everything else In my opinion

>>37149148
>>37149187

Guess what? Finding out you were the worst person in the entire world sucks.

>>37149187
We're good on food. We've been good on food. The remaining opponents are just too much for us to take down alone, that means we need to earn some powerful allies.

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>Destruction Jager was bad

>>37149164

She somehow got sadder, and it's all our fault. As for shoe horning it in, I honestly don't feel this is an essential part of the plot that needed to be included to tell an engaging story. I see it as a story tellers desperate grasp at injecting emotional depth into their story, so that their one great work can be a holistic piece.

This can be done well, however, the juxtaposition of light and dark themes is working in such a way that it devalues the original values while trying to allow the others room to breathe. I don't know about you, but I've enjoyed these sorts of issues less than the fundamental issue of whether to kick more dragon ass or demon ass with our best buddies.