>>36945481
Tell Greg he done fucked up, politely. And with Pity.

His wife probably won't be happy. And he probably is owed a punch in the face by Karel.

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>"W... well, uh..." Adrien scratches his head, "...I'm Raoul Philippe Adrien Granache," he says, extending his hand towards her, "and I guess I'm your father. Uh, what's your name?"
>"Karel," she mumbles. "Karel Alysse Granache."


"...Alysse?" Melanie says. "You mean like..."
"Yeah, like the flower," Karel mumbles. "Just like Marianne and Sylvie and the rest of them."
"Your name follows the royal family's naming scheme for girls... not to mention the last name," Sir Gregory says, deep in thought. "So your mother knew who 'Adrien' really was this whole time?
"No," Karel shakes her head. "When she met him, all she knew was that he was a handsome swordsman who frequented our cafe. It wasn't until after she got pregnant was me that she started digging up information on his background."

Adrien looks really surprised to hear that.

"But if she was willing to go through all that trouble, why didn't she try and track me down?" Adrien asks,.
"All she cared about as far as that went was finding out who you really are and where you came from," Karel replies. "Since she wasn't about to have a baby for someone who she didn't know anything about."

So she knew exactly who her father was and all that from the very start... no wonder she was getting all weird about having to come here to Granache last month and asking about what kind of person Thierri was and all that.


>ask karel about ____
>stay out of it for now
>[OTHER]

>>36945518
>OTHER
>be supportive of Karel

Karel is love
Karel is life
Karel is a miracle of the universe

>>36945518
>stay out of it for now

>>36945518
>stay out of it for now

>>36945518
"Just FYI, she likes headpats."

>>36945518
>dat pic

That is one pretty man.

>>36945518
DIS GON BE GUD

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>>36945518
>stay out of it for now

Later, I'm thinking we should say to Emilio something like:

>I think Karel could use a friend right now.

>>36945573
NO! WE GIVE THOSE NOT HIM!

>>36945590
It's animu land, they have different standards for that.

>>36945613
I'm thinking that we get in the carriage with Emilio and Luciana while Karel goes back with her dad.

That way we can do some damage control if he's in any way upset or jealous.

>>36945518
>Pull Karel into a hug, kiss her in the lips and tell her everything will be alright

>>36945676
This kills the Reinhold.

>>36945518
>stay out of it for now
>administer headpats if needed

>>36945518
>stay out of it for now

>>36945518
>Be vaguely supportive

Karel needs friends here more than anything; we shouldn't really ask more than how she's feeling.

We should also be thinking about checking up on Emilio, who's probably feeling kind of betrayed (and a little weird) that his best friend ever was keeping this from him, and it'll take a little bit before the whole "dad has a stick up his ass about women in fighting roles" and how precarious this made Karel's position registers for him. Not to mention, coming clean about something like this AFTER they've become good enough friends she'd trust him is going to be kind of awkward. Seriously, when is a good time for that?

>>36945518
>be supportive of Karel
Also you know.

Hit Adrien again. and again... and again.. and again.

>>36945691
No, that makes the Luci kill the Reinhold.

>>36945777
Or we can immediately tease him about it

>>36945518
>>stay out of it for now

Let's try not to get into any more trouble here.

>>36945777
ASAP. Karel is emotionally volatile right now (okay, not just right now) so the risk is that out of anger, he says something to her that she takes badly.

>>36945822
She can't kill us if we are already dead.

Can we NTR Emilio soon?

>>36945822
Luci, Sylvie, Gregory, Nico, Karel.

>>36945882
We fondled both of his waifus, that's gotta count for something.

>>36945777
>we shouldn't really ask more than how she's feeling.
>Asking a clearly emotionally distraught female 'How are you feeling?'

Someone hasn't talked to a lot of women, has he?

>>36945882
Okay here's what we do. Be there for Karel right now. Afterwards. Go on a private trip to the lake with her and Rana. Emilio is NTR'd. Worse Luci refuses to believe we may be cheating on her. So we're still with her.

His waifus. And his sister. Also we're teaching Elena to be the best swordy ever. Sisters. Aaw Yis. His eyes are good he'll have to watch it all.

>>36945907
Got one's peaches and the other's melons...maybe it's best we keep that to ourselves.

We should also check on Carina to make sure Gregory's latest display of affection didn't traumatize her.

I'll never forgive you /pgq/ for firing too early on the wrong girl.
Should have stuck it out for best route.

>>36946012
She's from Not Detroit. She's wondering why Gregory hasn't shanked him and stolen his purse.

>>36946035
"Does Mister Adrien owe that man some money, Reinhold?"

>>36946047
He probably does.

>>36946034
Yeah Mari is great.

>>36946047
"Worse. Remember how I told you, I'd you'd never have to live in the box again? He said the same thing to Citrine and I... then never came back to get us."

One Loli's hatred earned for all eternity.

>>36946034
but anon, we are on the best route
who am I kidding, we will never be with Nico or Karel

>>36946034
She was horribly early on. Hell when we asked her what books she liked she mocked Reinhold for his possible inability to read. She's a terrible person.

>>36945956
You're projecting there Anon. Of course it ends badly for you, getting yelled at; the point is it gives an outlet and helps her order her thoughts and priorities. This is why the whole "talking about our feeeeelings" thing is a standard bonding/support activity.

>>36946126
Oh shit... I remember that. We gained relationship points for knowing how to read. Makes me wonder if we'd have lost them if Reinhold hadn't been the slightest bit lucky in that whore house.

>>36946152
Not really projecting. You just said it yourself, it ends badly for you.

>>36946156
Maybe she would have taken pity and taught us.

>>36946115
I bet if we were on another route, there would be an active croud saying 'but we could have had the lewd princess!'

>>36946126
It's part of her character to be abrasive. And she wasn't mocking us, she just didn't see the point in talking books with an illiterate.

>>36946211
Yeah. That wasn't meant as an insult at all, she was genuinely asking him if he knew how to read.


>writing

>>36946211
>>36946257
It came off as an insult to me.. I've hated her since that moment.

>>36946210
The only reason we're with Luci is because she was going to be married off to Monquie. We flipped our shit. We'd have flipped our shit for any girl who got stuck with that fate.

>>36946257
Speaking of the early quest, is the third Gilbeaut brother irrelevant, retconned, or the masked man.

>>36946182
So you're just an abysmal or emotionally retarded friend, then? You do that stuff to let them blow up at you, then you comfort them through the breakdown. That's what being an outlet entails. Have you never seen a girl ask a good friend "are you alright" immediately after a painful breakup or similar? A common first line of the response is "OF COURSE I'M NOT ALRIGHT" followed by venting to supportive umming, aahhing and I seeing. It's inviting them to vent to a willing listener.

>>36946281
Between that and the guy who wanted to punch Nicolette last thread...

And they say girls are catty?

>>36946328
>this character has a nonzero (0) amount of flaws, they are unredeemable

>>36946292
Girlyman Swordgrudge, Weeaboo, and possibly impotent asswipe with not-japanese wife? That's all three, surely?

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>>36946363
Wait, maybe I'm just retarded. I only can think of Monique and Matthias.

>>36946380
Marcel Gilbeault II. He's the eldest brother and kind of a jerk.

Only appeared during the first Monique interlude.

>>36946414
Oh yeah, I tend to skip those in my somewhat frequent rereads.

>>36946431
>skipping the interludes

One day archelon will be hailed as a prophet and people like that will be burned at the stake.

>>36946447
Just Monique interludes, I swear. I keep getting murderous urges.

>implying I wouldn't be a chief in his cult

>>36946281
We're with Luci because she was proactive about making her interest clear, and because she's a good fit for Reinhold.

Of the girls she's the most dangerous, not necessarily the strongest, but if she wants someone dead she will use most any method needed. She understands, and accepts, Reinhold's murderous/protective tendencies better than any of the other girls do. On top of all that, she's also hot, adorable, and a redheaded princess.

There's also the whole vote thing which people kvetch about.

>>36946543
Yeah the defining moment. "For Luci" was Rein slamming his hand into a wall when she said she was getting married. Sylive got all upset and realized she'd "lost."

>>36946543
>proactive about making her interest clear

I feel like that's important for someone as damaged as Reinhold. Spinelle did a 180° on him so emotional ambiguity is gotta be his kryptonite.

Just kidding, rape is his kryptonite.

>>36946543
Luci a shit

>>36946543
Yep

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>>36946627

>>36946615
That makes sense, like how arch said that Mari wants to be chased yet I can't really see Rein doing the chasing.

>>36946701
Hey, if Reinhold was infuriatingly nice enough, it could have ended up being something else.

Maybe.

>>36946571
It could be played off as Rein not wanting his friend to be wed to _that guy_

That being said for the reasons
>>36946543
said Luci is best girl for Rein.

Even if Karel route would have been more fun.
And Marianne is forever alone and deserves better.
And Nico/Melon/Rein route is more sensually taboo

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"Wow..." Elena looks at Karel with pure wonder in her eyes. "...so you're a girl..."
"Yeah," she nods. "Sorry for hiding it from yo-"
"THAT'S AMAZING!" she says, holding Inaba in her arms while excitedly hopping up and down. "That means that a GIRL is the one who beat all the other swordies at the tournament back home! You're just like Reinhold's grandma!"
"No wonder she took to Agnes so quickly..." Sir Gregory nods to himself.
"And you're a Princess just like me!"

Now Adrien seems to be even more lost than he was before.

"...wait, you're talking about Agnes?" he asks. "You guys know her?"
"Yeah, no thanks to you," Sir Gregory glares at his cousin.


>explain it to him
>that can wait until later

>>36946788
Every girl a best girl in their own way.

Except for Sylvie and solo meido.

So maybe it's just me.. but does anyone else not like the CRASH/STRIKE/GUARD set up?

Earlier in the quest when we say fought monquie I can't help but feel that entire fight would have been a joke with that system. I'm not really seeing how we could lose with it.

>>36946801
>>explain it to him

>>36946801

>explain it to him as we head back.

>>36946801
>explain it to him

>Yeah, Adrien, if you hadn't fucked shit up I could've had a family.

Dont't say that.

>>36946801
>Glare at him.

>>36946841
>Yeah, Adrien, if you hadn't fucked shit up I wouldn't have been raped for the majority of my prepubescent years

>>36946801
>Explain it to him
He deserves to know exactly how hard he fucked things up. On the other hand he doesn't seem to actually care that much about the consequences of his actions. He did abandon his post as a prince in order to go wenching and questing after all.

>>36946863
>>36946845
>>36946801
seconded.

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>>36946788
What is Sylvie best for then?

>>36946801
>explain it to him

>she says, holding Inaba in her arms while excitedly hopping up and down.
>Inaba : "I think I'm gonna be sick..."

>>36946805
Meido has proven lately that she's got quite the temper too. Also she has the most common sense.

>>36946814
It's better than dice. The main problem is gauging the difficulty. I'm not sure people can come up with a better system, unless the QM set up minigames or something.

Like pic related.

>>36946801
>explain it to him

>>36946801
>explain it to him
>"Yeah, she's arriving to the castle tomorrow. So get ready to regale her with tales from your decade long absence."

>>36946814
The Leviathans managed to get some advantage points in our fights, so a seasoned swordie like Monique could still make it an interesting fight with the rock/paper/scissors setup.

>>36946801
>Explain it to him nicely. Remark that when we found out that Karel was Adrien's (though being clear we didn't know who Adrien was) we adopted Karel as sort of an honorary little sister too.

>>36946777
Yea I mean that Mari would have to make the first move, I just can't see him making the first move.

>>36946801
>explain it to him
Mixed with
>>36946845

>>36946801
>explain it to him
we were asked a question, and Karel will be glad for a few minutes not entirely at the centre of attention.

>>36946814
we uniformly goofed on one of the strikes fighting as karel, and read it as a guard. It can be made tough. But also, VNs aren't really about luck or actual combat skill so much as navigating a branching story so it's not something I see as being detrimental.

>>36946801
>that can wait until later

Guys, right now is about Karel. I know she probably doesn't want to be the specter of attention, but she kind of needs this to reintroduce herself to her peers. So let's not make ourselves the center of attention, okay?

>>36946885
>In order to solve this magic equation, we'll have to be doing work of equivalent difficult.

>how good were you guys at Calculus?

>>36946896
Oh good god. Agnes is gonna kill Raoul for not honoring her grandson's wish.

>>36946946
>Princess Guard Quest 240: Adrien takes it in the face even more.

>>36946801
>explain it to him

Don't get mad about him leaving us there, get mad about him leaving Citrine there when she had a Grandma waiting for her.

>>36946873
>On the other hand he doesn't seem to actually care that much about the consequences of his actions. He did abandon his post as a prince in order to go wenching and questing after all.
Going by how well he's handled everything else, buggering off to let Thierri run things is probably the most responsible thing he's done.

>>36946968
Lewd.

>>36946801
>explain it to him

he needs to know how screwed he really is.

>>36946999
It's only lewd if you want it to be, baby.

>writing

>>36946999
>>36946801
you know what, say this:
>"Judging by how well you handled everything else, running off to let Thierri take over things was probably the most responsible thing you could've done."

>>36946873
I suspect that it's not so much that he's that selfish and more that he's kind a dumbass. He's probably dying inside meeting us, Citrine AND Karel all at once.

All I want for Christmas is some rule34 PGQ. I wish I could draw.

>>36947046
You monster.

>>36947043
That is the impression he's giving right now, yes.

>>36947046
If we're lucky, somebody from /wst/ hangs out here.

But let us cease this line of conversation, before our pure turtle overlord brings wrath upon us.

>>36947072
/r/ Nicolette and Melanie double paizuri with heart pupils

I wanted a tearful hug but now it's not gonna be very spontaneous.

>>36947046
You know what? I am more amazed that there ISN'T rule 34 of this quest yet that I have seen.

>>36947304
Wait for the VN

>>36947304
I think somebody was writing fapfics way back when.

archelon gave an idea or two

>>36947288
>>36947304
>>36947327
Stop please, it's Christmas.

>>36946801
Explain that you've gotten in touch and she lent you The Sword. Adrien knows how big a gesture that is being Volker's close friend.

>>36947327
There is no VN.

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>>36947361

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>>36947361
Not yet

>>36947369
>>36947371
THIRD TIME THAT HAPPENS

>>36947369
>>36947371
what the fuck

>>36947369
Write turtle write

The rabbit is napping now is your chance

>>36947304
their is that hatefuck fapfick

>>36947297
Well, it might not happen when everyone else is around, but I'm for a punch-then-hug between Adrien and Karel when they get some privacy.

>>36947369
>>36947371
Geez, you two need to get a room.

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>>36947369
>>36947371
This has to be a sign!

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"After I mentioned some stuff about Volker back when we were visiting in Marconetti," you say, "Luciana set things for me and Citrine to meet up with her," you say. "Even lent me her old dueling sword to use while mine was broken."
"Wha..." Adrien's jaw drops. "AGNES let YOU borrow her sword!? She used to kick Volker's ass if he even looked at that thing funny, and-"
"She told me all about their meeting," Sir Gregory says. "It turns out that she would have been ELATED to take them in had you had the common sense to bring them to her after Volker died..."

That news hits Adrien like a punch in the face.

Well, like -another- punch in the face. He was already looking really guilty before, but now it seems as if he's about to break down at any moment.


>[1/?]

>>36947451
I think the problem is that Adrien is so much like us.

A dumbass.

>>36947475
His chin grows in size as we speak

>>36947497
That's just the swelling.

>>36947516
If PGQ was less /a/, this might be mildly horrifying.

>>36947497
>And what happened then? Well, in Granache they say
>That Raoul's small chin grew three sizes that day!

>>36947451
I am getting to the point I am just feeling sorry for Adrien.

>>36947540
You and me both, I hope we don't break him so bad that he feels it will be better to leave and never return. We must make sure that does not happen.

>>36947540
How?

>>36947369
>>36947371
EVERY

GODDAMN

TIME

>>36947559
>"And people wonder why I never visit."

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>>36947540
Why

He needed to follow the advice of a certain blonde haired wiseman, not feel sorry for himself because he fucked up.

>>36947451
Oh wow, I'm beginning to feel a little bad for him

All we need now is for citrine to somehow blurt out that rein was raped more or less daily as a child and he'd probably be reduced to unintelligable animal noises of pure suffering.

>>36947559

If he tries it, a lot of people will drag him back.

They would just literally cut him off at the knee's to make sure he won't try to leave again.

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>>36947589
Adrien is a free spirit tho

>>36947591
Good, he fucked up, he should feel bad.

>>36947589
>Gregory's response to Adrian.png

>>36947615
We don't want to also break everyone else who might hear that.

>everyone is tearing up or just silently hingeing their mouths open and closed
>Carina lights up, saying "Ohhhhhhhhh! You're THAT Reinhold!"

>>36947633
I hope Gregory does not actually have that haircut though.

>>36947540
>>36947559

He can service customers in a Cateno whorehouse for a few months, I'll feel bad for him then.

>>36947540
Fuck that. He's a bastard and should feel it. Don't feel sorry for him. Feel sorry for everyone he has wronged in his ignorance.

>>36947475
We didn't abandon the kid.

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>>36947451
>[2/2]

"She even offered to give us the family name and everything," Citrine says. "I'd have taken it right then and there if I wasn't already married..."

You're still not sure what to do about that particular offer.

"Oh, and she's gonna be coming into town tomorrow!" Citrine says.
"I'd almost forgotten about that!" Sir Gregory snaps his fingers. "and I bet she'd just LOVE to ask you what the fuck you've been doing all this time..." he says, glaring at Adrien.
"I'm sure she will," he mumbles. "There isn't anyone else here whose life I've inadvertently ruined, is there?"
"No, I think that's about it," Sir Gregory replies.


>talk some more
>time to get going

>>36947451
Hug. Him. He's been through a lot these past 10 minutes.

>>36947717
>>talk some more

>>36947717
>>time to get going

>>36947717
>time to get going

HELP KAREL SOMEHOW DAMNIT

>>36947717
>>time to get going
Let's hurry up back to the castle and hide this loli in our room while everybody is distracted with Adrien.

>>36947717
>time to get going

>>36947717
>time to get going
Everything is burning, t'was the fire they call Adrien.

>>36947717
>time to get going

>>36947757
Rather hide Luci in our room

>>36947717
>time to get going

Could we get Operation: "Be sure Elmo isn't too mad" in motion?

>>36947717
Time to off handedly mention that Ariane is going to want a word when we get back. Do not specify whether this is with Adrien or Gregory.

Then see how Karel is holding up, and check in on Emilio.

>>36947717
>talk some more

>>36947691
That's the point. His ignorance. He didn't screw anyone over because he was malicious.

The guy has a one night stand, nobody ever even tries to tell him he's got a kid. The guy goes to a brothel with his buddy, who decides to adopt two kids and ends up dying before he can - - the hell is he supposed to do, he's busy trying not to die, and avenge his best friend.

Then he just happens to come help the aasswipe village being attacked by monsters, and finds out all this shit, and nobody even tried to find him before.

What are some h-scene you hope to see in the VN?

Luciana exhibitionism in her disguise
Nicolette post-spar h-scene following princess carry

>>36947717
>>time to get going
Make sure that Karel is still holding up. And myabe it's time to check up on Elmo.

>>36947717
Ignore him and go hug our bro/imouto Knight Princess Karel.

>>36947717
>Talk some more. I think we should say a few nice things, or at least give some forgiveness. I mean sure, he was irresponsible but he didn't know he had a kid and he did kind of avenge Reinhold's father. It's not like anyone else was rushing to save Cateno victims either.

>>36947717
"Well, Thierri's been restless, but I think that's a relatively minor concern...anyways, you owe Citrine an apology for leaving her there, and that's all I'm gonna say about it."

>>36947797
mention the ara ara as we do this just to finalize the emotional apocalypse.

>>36947790
>the hell is he supposed to do, he's busy trying not to die, and avenge his best friend.
Considering that it appartently took him several years to avenge his friend, he could have talen a week off, and not left the fucking orphans that his best wanted to adpot in a fucking whorehouse.

>>36947745
She's a princess.
She's a top class swordie.
She's got a dad who is stupid, but very kind.
She's got an uncle who acts stupid, but is very kind and very clever.
She's in a prince's strike zone in terms of looks, personality and intelligence, AND his father wants to have a marriage between his bloodline and her uncles.
And he's sudo-brother Reinhold cares a whole bunch about her.

She needs only realize this, then we no longer need to help her.
Spoiled bitch... "Ooooo my dad wasn't home! Woe is me!" try being a whores squeak toy for seven years and then come talk to us about suffering...

Seriously just need to get Emilio to not brood about this and we're set.

>>36947369
>>36947371
How does this keep happening!?

>>36947797
On this note, I'm not sure it's a good thing for Karel either if everyone dumps on her father too far. Sure her mom was into the whole swordsman thing, but you don't become a champion without some drive, and Adrien was probably a good chunk.

>>36947717
>Other

Go find Emilio wherever he stopped off to, and try to calmly talk some sense into him. Yes, his best friend has been lying to him. Yes, we new because we accidentally copped a feel during the attempted coup. But Karel does truly care about her friendship with him and if it wasn't for the fact that she was terrified of the truth coming out and not being able to peruse her passion as a swordswoman, she would have told him everything a long time ago. And even if he thinks it's evening the scales to hurt her by shunning her right now, he needs to know he's her best friend and all he's doing is twisting a knife in her heart unnecessarily. Karel's still Karel, and she's still his friend despite everything.

>>36947783
I like this plan.

>>36947790
>The guy has a one night stand, nobody ever even tries to tell him he's got a kid.

He was like 30 years old at that point. I can excuse forgetting the contraceptive when fooling around with impressionable teens if you're around their age, but that was a big fuck up. Especially since he had warnings from Ariane.

>the hell is he supposed to do, he's busy trying not to die, and avenge his best friend.
He wasn't really in shape to avenge anything back then and it would have taken him like two days at most to bring us to Agnes.

>>36947851
she's got a sudo-brother***

>>36947717

So question. How many half siblings does Karel have hidden around the world from Adrien 's travels?

>>36947851
m8 somebody else's worse problems don't neutralize your own.

But I see what you mean. As long as we can get Emilio and Celestino to accept this, we'll be golden.

>>36947877
Pseudo. The word you are looking for is 'Pseudo'.

>>36947841
In fairness, I don't think it crossed his mind that Volker's family would take him in. There's been a lot of debate about our own orphan. He may have legitimately felt it was unlikely. Also, he was probably not idle during that period. There was probably a good deal of tracking going on and trail could have run cold.

>>36947851
>whores squeak toy
HAH! I now see Rein as that duck from Wakfu. But.. with tears and a frown instead of that smug grin.

>>36947891
I'm the worst kind of monster.

>>36947883
Canonically none, it's on the ask.fm. Though I guess in-universe people will never know for sure.

>>36947873
Did we ever get any indication of his age? I thought Gregory was in his late 30s or early 40s so I always placed Adrien around that same age, what with them being such good friends and all. That'd put Adrien in his early to mid 20s at the time of Karel's conception.

>>36947898
>In fairness, I don't think it crossed his mind that Volker's family would take him in.
He could still have tried. And if Volker's family wouldn't have taken them in, he could left them in a proper orphanage, rather then leave them in a fucking whorehouse.

>>36947873
I don't think Alicia was exactly a pure soul unable to make her own decisions. She knew him as a guy who frequently came by. Either they did it several times before Karel came about or she had enough knowledge when they did make Karel to decide if that was a good choice or not. She's also at least as responsible as Adrien for Karel having no father, if not more so. He had no knowledge to make the decision on whether to be there or not.

>writing

>>36947925

Sure, there are non Canonically. However that will not there will not be money spent, and time interviewing him to track down anyone that would be another hidden child.

Because it happened once and no one in story could say it did not happen again.

And then hold it over his head the whole time.

>>36947936
http://ask.fm/Maou_Zenigame/answer/114972555485

Volker is around Gregory's age and Raoul is five years older than Volker.

>>36947961
She was younger than Reinhold back then. Teens aren't supposed to be the responsible party in that case.

>>36946914
We have the internet and Wolfram Alpha.
Don't think we would have much problem.
And we might help Arch with his Calculus homework then.

>>36947951
It's not like there appears to be an abundance of orphanages that anyone else is ensuring these children go to. The only thing he did wrong was not pay extra attention and take additional time coming back. If you consider the strictly moral choice by our standards, Volker is also greatly at fault for not pulling them out immediately. It's not like Citrine wasn't doing it daily. If on the other hand you argue she absolved him by making a choice to stay there, you kind of have to give that to Adrien too I think.

>>36947823
>>36947790
>defending Adrien
Fuck that.
The Karel and Alicia stuff I can sort of get because he had know idea she was pregnant but I can't even imagine how you rationalize Adrien leaving Citrine and Rein in the brothel because it's "not his problem".
If he was apparently Volker's best friend, then he should have the wherewithal to understand that Volker probably doesn't want the children he was going to adopt being left in a whorehouse in the countries worst town. The fact that he didn't even make an attempt to get them out of their makes Adrien a terrible person and a terrible friend. He didn't have to take them in himself, but getting them out of Cateno was something well within his abilities and he didn't even fucking consider it. True, neither did anybody else in Cateno, but that only makes him just as bad as they are. Raoul is a piece of shit.

>>36947304
There's a few cards on the Artificial Academy 2 database.

Another anon also made a pretty good Nicolette card, but didn't share the others.

>>36948021
That's in the modern day. In this kind of society you're an adult. Reinhold has been in the military for years prior to the present events. He'd be a child soldier in our world.

>>36948051
FINAL DESTINATION NO CALCULATORS FOX ONL

>>36947891
How to you know he didn't mean Sumo?

>>36947288
Nicolette is too flat for that.

>>36948116
that serves to make it more amusing

As a complete and total aside, we are going to somehow engineer the clean up of out home town so it's not just and amoral shitcity, right?

>>36948141
That's too far out of our resources.

>>36948141
Well we'd have to burn it to the ground first.

>>36948158
Well the King could make sure it will get cleaned up, some what at least.

>>36946034
People, myself included, didn't want the shitty waifu wars to go on for another thread. The decision was perfect.

>>36947796
Marianne eating cake off of Reinhold.

Karel in a frilly dress.

>>36948141
Nope. Detroit must exist so that the rest of humanity doesn't have to deal with it.

>>36948141
Soon as we get our Knighthood/Lordship we claim it as our territory, then for the next few years we act as judge, jury and executioner of the area until there are no more living criminals.
We then begin to teach our people magic with the assistance of Sylvie, and mass produce spell scrolls for export.

>>36948182
That certainly sounds like an improvement.

>>36948141
I like the idea of a random meteor strike taking it out.

>>36948141
Cateno is a carefully calculated breeding ground for helpless orphans who develop a love for swords, who are then rescued the second they are ripe by somebody connected to a noble house or the royal family, thus securing their eternal loyalty, and trained to be the most dedicated guard in the biz.
There is now Carina, before her Reinhold, and before him guards stretching back as far as the Celestino can remember.

>>36948206
But.. if we kill Detroit the rest of the world will be safe!

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>>36948208

>>36947072
>If we're lucky, somebody from /wst/ hangs out here.

There's at least me but I've been pretty dry lately.

>>36946571
Which thread was this?

>>36948141
Cateno is the kind of problems that requires a very ambitious and astute political plan, executed over the years, to even have a chance to get better. Reinhold doesn't strike me as polically savvy, though he could bring up to the royal court how the situation is kind of fucked up.

It's all inherent in the system anyway.

>>36948216
>Breeding ground
Yeah.. I keep forgetting Rein has no special parentage what so ever. Always feel sad about that. Keep hoping his mom or dad will show up and everything will get better.

>>36947891
That anon might be trying some Linux.
Forcing 4chan to recognize Reinhold as Karel's brother.

>>36948234
I've been to Detroit, there parts that aren't terrible. Cateno seems more like Compton to me with less hygiene.

>>36948182
I'm ok with that.

>>36948116
That's the point
Asymmetrical docking and breast envy are my fetishes

>>36948234
No, that will merely scatter little Detroit bits across all the other cities, which will soon have mini-Detroits festering inside their borders.

>>36948258
they're dead

>>36947797
seconding

>>36948246
Shortly after the duel and shortly before the coup attempt.

>>36948202
>Karel in a frilly dress.
Please stop. My dick can only get so hard.

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>Just catching up on some pgq that I'd missed
>mfw these last couple of threads
Holy shit, Turtle brought his A-game.

>>36948246
Oh good god... Somewhere after the Arena duel? I..

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>>36948314
we can dream, anon

>>36948258
Anon, I've got bad "news"...

archelon told us their fate since we wouldn't stop pestering him about them. Rein's dad got shanked in Cateno while they were traveling and his mom died by childbirth in front of the brothel.

It's my headcanon that one of the assholes Reinhold killed over the years for brutalizing Citrine was the one who did this.

>>36948246
https://archive.moe/tg/thread/29813483/#29820526

>>36948294
Oh.. Okay..I.. I.. I'm going to go sit in the corner.

>>36948343
I feel like it would've been better if he was a literal whore's son who died in childbirth rather than his parents being random travelers with apparently no existing other family.

>>36948343
>archelon told us their fate since we wouldn't stop pestering him about them. Rein's dad got shanked in Cateno while they were traveling and his mom died by childbirth in front of the brothel.

That's.. worse. :-: I'm okay. Everything is fine now. Rein is daaaijobu.

>>36948285

"Melanie, I wish I had a figure like yours," Nicolette complained one morning

"Well you can have mine whenever you want," replied morning meido

>>36948202
>Marianne eating cake off of Reinhold.
And here I was thinking Luci's cake scene was lewd.

>>36947796
Alternate Timeline 1 (Volker Survies Instead) Reinhold hitting up the brothel with Giancarlo during a visit to Granache and banging Spinelle senseless.

>>36948372
I think Archelon's suggestion was alcohol-filled chocolates

>>36948372
Lewd? She's going to stab him with her fork and its not like there's a plate under that cake she's cutting! Poor bloody Reinhold's gonna get some new scars.

>>36948372
Nyotaimori

You know Nico and Melon'll try it at some point, but since neither have the patience for it that'll just end up in megalewd shenanigans.

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>>36948357
They had good reason to be in Cateno at least

>>36948383
In that timeline Rein still got raped so I can't really see that happening.

>>36948389
You use those to get her in the mood.

>>36948366
I like tall flat girls.
Like that one certain Maruta manga.

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Sir Gregory's busy berating Adrien and EVERYONE'S watching intently... except you, you've had more than your fill of such things. Even though Adrien's negligence led to a LOT of unfortunate results, you still don't harbor a real grudge against him.

...well, you don't harbor -much- of a grudge against him. And you've already hit him yourself.

"Hey Karel," you whisper as you... eh? She's gone?

Noticing your desire for secrecy, Carina tugs on your shirt and then points towards the carriages... it looks like she had the exact same idea that you did.


>[1/?]

>>36948490
We found another best girl.

How do we keep doing it?

>>36947796
Reinhold eating a turkey leg out of Rana's ass.

Actually, this should be a mandatory scene with any girl on any route.

>>36948490
That's a Sealed King isn't it?

>>36948490
Maybe we can remember the imouto we brought back in addition with the one that just got outed.

>>36948490
>Sir Gregory's busy berating Adrien and EVERYONE'S watching intently.
Read "berating" as "beating"

>>36948490
>[2/2]


Taking Carina's hand, you slip away from the others just as Karel enters one of the carriages... and then immediately leaves it and heads to the other one. That was odd. You're pretty sure that the one that she left is the one that Emilio went into...


>go to the carriage that emilio's in
>go to the carriage that karel's in

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

We need him to be Karel's friend.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that karel's in

>>36948599
>>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
Karel's

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

"I think Karel is best left alone for now."

>>36948599
>talk to future brother in law.

>>36947796
Some of the suggestions I recall-
>Luciana in full whips and chains mode.
>Railing Karel against the wall near the castle training room while she tries to be silent and not attract any attention.
>Dragon snu-snu.
>Meido/Nico/Chinhold getting trashed.

>>36948599
>o to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
>>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
>>go to the carriage that emilio's in
As much as I wanna make sure that Karel is okay, we also need to make sure that her best friend doesn't hate her

>>36948599
>>go to the carriage that emilio's in
First things first. Karel's going to be stewing in her panic and doomsaying no matter what we do, but making sure Emilio doesn't get carried away thinking things over might actually help improve the situation.

>>36948599
Emilio is worst prince if he's seriously mad at her for this.

Go to the one Emilio is in.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948627
I remember that Karel one.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that karel's in
This is our chance. We need to get her while she's vulnerable. We can still salvage this quest and get best girl.

>>36948599

>go to the carriage that karel's in

We are Reinhold, meddling in awkwardness is in our blood. Must pass it on to Carina.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in
Need to make sure he don't do nothing stupid.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
Karel is gonna be real mad at us. Better talk to Emilio first


>Emilio is in there, crying
>masturbating
>"My lust is socially acceptable now!"

>>36948648
>Emilio is worst prince if he's seriously mad at her for this.
It's probably not going to be a long term thing but there'd be nothing wrong with him being a little pissed at his supposed best friend lying to him all this time.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
Karel's, our bro needs us.

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that emilio's in

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that karel's in

>>36947796
Loving Marriane dere first time where her icy heart melts.

Turning Karel's Heart Pink with her first time

Nico/Melon scenes, maybe Nico/Melon/Rein scenes.

not lewd but
Elena/Valerie/Carina/Inaba cuddlescene

>>36948599
>go to the carriage that karel's in
She needs someone to beat senselessly

Does anyone else actually hate Emilio for being such a little bitch about everything? He's seriously the only character in this entire quest I cannot stand at all. He's like the Shinji of PGQ.

>>36948757
Yeah I think he sucks.

Am I the only one who's hoping for a moment alone with Gregory so we can deck him?

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>>36948737
>that last one
>no Racquel

>>36948757
I just feel bad for the kid.

he reminds me a bit of myself

>>36948781
Nah, his wife can do that.

>>36948786
Racky would turn it lewd

also fun but unprobable: short route preview of femhold

>>36948757
I used to think that this would be the one thing he'd be cool with.
Now he's fallen into bitch territory.

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>>36948757
>>36948777
I like him. And only edgy kids think Shinji is a pussy.

>>36948781
You need to talk about your violent fantasies with someone, Anon.

>>36948793
>Being like Emilio

I'm sorry man. But.. You suck.

>>36948757
To be fair it is a bit of a shock, give him some time.

>>36948793
I'd feel bad of his unrequited crush on Marianne was his only problem but it seems like he bitches about literally everything.

>>36948757
while sheltered he is a good person, and he's been shown to be willing to throw down when there is danger.
Cowardly? Yes, but he is not even in the same galaxy as Shinji.
Take things poorly? Initially. I believe the kid will smarten up with a word or two and come around.

I dont consider him a favorite, but I dont feel any sort of contempt for the kid. Unlike Monique. Fuck that guy.

>>36948851
No, no, in the regretful past kind of way.

God, no.

>>36948860
Because he does bitch about literally everything.

>>36948885
This is a reasonable view to have.

>>36948821
>kid has insecurities out the ass
>the person who was supposed to be an influence on him to be less insecure has been lying to him all this time about their own insecurities
>thinking he was just going to be cool with this
We haven't even seen his reaction yet but it makes total sense for him not to take it very well at first. I'm not going to pretend Emilio is one of my favorite characters but he hasn't done anything wrong, he's allowed to have emotions and instead of blowing up infront of Karel with them while she's vulnerable, he's tried to take them out of her face so he can presumably vent in private.

Now that Karel isn't there to baby him around anymore I think the memories they had together are going to push Emilio to be a better man and earn Karel's affection.

>>36948777
>>36948821
>>36948885

Hi

To put into perspective: He's just in shock, wait until what happens after to judge his character.

This is basically on the level of your best fucking A-20 Buddy of Friend O'Pal who has 100% testosterone more than you that he's trans

and he's already headway into his transition (on in karel's case, was 100% grill from the start)

Source:coming out to people are trans

I don't transsexualism is even a thing in this setting so this is even more of a shocker for him

>writing

>>36948757
I hate the little shit too. It's the main reason that I hope there's an NTR option in the VN where we secretly foster a crush on Karel in Emilio then come in and steal her away at the last second.

>>36948906
He bitched a few times about not being good enough for Marianne despite being pressured by his father and Karel herself to go impress her, and we know how impossibly hard that is. The kid is fourteen, gives him a break. Outside of that he's pleasant to be around.

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>>36948972

>>36948935
But Karel likes easily bullyable Emilio because he's like the one thing in her life she can manipulate with complete control.

>>36948935
Well you clearly don't understand how people work. But it sounds like you're an optimist so you're probably fine.

>>36948952
Go back to tumblr, snowflake. They might care more about your life story.

>>36948952
...what?

>>36948952
But Karel is actually a girl and not a confused dude with psychological problems pretending otherwise.

>hating Karel for internally monologing about Rein
>hating Nico for being upset that she failed something she'd been trying to achieve for years
>hating Emilio for being the same character he's been since we met him
Why are you PGQueers being so abrasive lately?
Also, none of these outrages have lasted more than the 1 thread they were brought up in, so it's not like it's even worth arguing over.

>>36948952
100% testoterone guys tend to be the ones you secretly mouth GAAAAAY behind their backs.

Also the last bits of your wording are.. uhh.. off. So I can't actually understand what your saying.

Also >>36949049

>>36948974
In what way in is he pleasant to be around? He has literally zero redeeming qualities. I'd rather hang out with anyone else in this quest than him.

>>36949062
What you would prefer a shitstorm?

>>36949062
People get bored between story posts?

>>36949062
Some people just seem to love to hate people over anything, especially if it's some kind of personal flaw.

I'm assuming it's some sort of projected insecurity thing, they'll blow themselves out in a thread like they always do.

>>36949062
I hate Emilio but Nico and Karel will always be best girls

>>36949000
sorry, I'll gb2lurking, the shit sounds similar though


>>36949015
>>36949049
Dude think of it from Karel's perspective.

His probably ONLY friend that he thought was a DUDE for HOW LONG is suddenly NOT A DUDE?

He's super confused and doesn't know how to handle the boundaries between them now.

Add extra shock factor: Princess too

Also Royalty too.

It's like some dude you really hit it off with in a class or something turns out to be an English Princess.

Ah whatever, probably too much of a stretch.

>>36949150
> Karel's Perspective

Fuck I meant Emilio

Yeah I'll see myself out.

>>36949062
It's not even a waifu war and people are still looking for excuse to hate characters.

>>36949089
He proposed to set us up with his sister as soon as he met us, jokes around with Karel when they're not fighting, tries to hold his ground even when he's completely defenceless against dragons...

>>36949150
>>36949167
And never post again

>>36949062
>hating Nico for being upset that she failed something she'd been trying to achieve for years

I just found the fact she was disappointed even though she just saved her best friends life annoying.

plus her hamstring herself is retarded.

>>36949150
>>36949167
Not to mention Karel was the MANLY MAN WHO DOES MANLY THINGS AND GIVES MANLY ADVICE guy in their particular bro-ship. If Emilio was the big dog of the pair he might not have gone into shock, but the top dog turned out to have been a cat the entire time.

>>36949150
>>36949167
...please do.

>>36949190
>>36949228
>deleting posts because of typos

Truly the turtle has left his mark on you.

>>36949230
>the top dog turned out to have been a cat the entire time.

Have you ever seen a cat go after a dog?

Cats are fucking terrifying. Dogs might be more dangerous on paper but by and large they don't have the murderous instinct anymore. Cats never lost it.

>>36949128
It seems like sort of petty, like one little action that's less than their expectations and they instantly write the character off despite the previous 200+ threads of them being perfectly happy with that character.
There's nothing wrong with pointing out when a character is being dumb or selfish (Lord knows it's happened to Rein plenty of times) but the melodramatic "Fuck Character X, I used to like you but now I will hate you for all time!" comes across as fairly pathetic, especially seeing as those grievances seem largely forgotten by the next thread.

>>36949258
There is still one i there and it is killing me.

>>36949274
see >>36946343

>>36949150
>It's like some dude you really hit it off with in a class or something turns out to be an English Princess.
That's pretty much exactly what it is, I don't get why people don't understand how it might take some characters a bit off time to adjust to this.

>>36949201
>>36949232
Chill out. That Anon is probably the one in this thread with the most experience with friends getting confused about your (original )gender. It's relevant to the discussion.

Emilio is obviously going to go through a phase where he'll have doubletakes over his past interactions with Karel. It's expected and full of spaghetti potential.

Now I know that certain issues are fucking impossible to discuss on this fucking site but come on, guys, no need to be mean.

>>36949274
Seems more like their flaw just grew too much. Everyone thought Nico was being stupid about the lance thing when we were at her house and even speculated she'd get someone killed being that way. Guess what, she very nearly did.

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Karel... she probably needs some alone time right now. Having her father suddenly show up out of the blue like that and then having Sir Gregory just blab her secret out for the entire world to hear...

...yeah, you kind of want to punch him for that. Just a little bit.

But you'd never EVER do that since he'd freaking murder you if you tried.

"Reinhold?" Carina tugs on your hand. "Is your friend gonna be okay? She met her daddy for the first time, right? ISn't that a happy thing?"
"Yeah, but I don't think that this is the way that she wanted it to happen," you reply.


>[1/?]

>>36949342
But she didn't. Of course she wouldn't let her bff die over a childhood promise.

And that's what matter in the end.

>>36949342
...but she didn't. She threw away that limitation the second that she felt that relying on the spear alone wouldn't be enough to save her friend's life.

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>>36949201
>>36949232

To be perfectly honest, ya'all are being a bit bitchy. Snowflake is trying to make the discussion productive towards some end or another and you're being cunts to him. Just my two cents.

>>36949342
But she didn't get anyone killed. When it mattered she broke her resolution and did what she needed to do.

I'm sorry that Nico isn't a robot who only thinks of logical imperatives at all times.

>>36949342
And when push came to shove, she came to the realization that saving somebody was more important. But I get why she'd mope a little after something she'd been trying to achieve for years was suddenly reduced to nothing, and it's not like her moping really had any negative effect on anything.

>>36949354
Her eyes look dead. We need to get her candy.. and a puppy.. or a bunny.. and a home.. and food and clothing.

>>36949433
>or a bunny

And then Karel keeps watching it veeeery closely but it never turns into a loli.

>>36949433
>dreamselfys eventually get happier the more we help them out
I don't know if the website has too many limitations for that but it'd be cool

>>36949433
I sure am glad we've been saving all that money.
\

>>36949458
The mouth and the eyes come in one package so it'd be kind of hard to do what you suggest.

>>36949399
I can't I hate snowflakes

>>36949433
We should acquire some food for Carina, like, now.

I'm not sure a Cateno orphan would think to complain about being hungry.

>>36949433
I second this motion.

>>36949455
and this one.

>>36949389
With control over the consequences of a character's actions and their consequences one can choose how both play out.
What if she had hesitated slighty too long?
What if in weighing her vow against being able to continue with her spear she had taken too long?
Consequences happen not just because of the outcome but how you arrive at it as well.

>>36949459
It was all for this moment! We see the future!

>>36949459
What, 10 gold a week, was it? And we've been bodyguarding for like 3 months now.

>>36949478
How to draw line?

>>36949399
For what it's worth, I agree. The reactions people would get from coming out as an actual girl girl and coming out as a transgender person would have a lot of crossover, even if they aren't 100% the same thing.

>>36949389
Well I blame Nicolas for limiting her to shitty weapon.

>>36949482
Christmas must suck for you.

>>36949492
We'll all get a feast at the castle. Raoul might be a son of a bitch but he'll get a warm dinner too.

>>36949510
Arch cannot into arting.