>>36779657
King/Land/Rule: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/Rs
Adventurer's Almanac: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kI-I-ClcaZc4YPFQzmExOxfqzHAsLOkqLnKufm9Ty5c/edit?pli=1
Setting Traits: http://pastebin.com/8RRbwMQT
Beast Species:http://pastebin.com/iPGVax1A
TRAITS: http://pastebin.com/TJXncd7A
POWERS:http://pastebin.com/pQDDqisU
Fluff Catalogue: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qj_IIuF_rqh_F2L-SeYn-dBiwDTtwWFpnbcXyfcgeE8/edit
Song Catalogue: (google doc) 1oQniqbLaTCF7V19fnXP0_zUW7GFr3ESziGM6U5mEcC0/edit
Rumour Mill: (google doc) 17CzFrAblibwD__7sEYorqXSz4ILYVp1O4tcQ-mGyYiI/edit?usp=sharing
Villain Immortality: http://pastebin.com/kA1wsUzV
National Anthems: http://pastebin.com/Gd9rETxb
Chimera Races: http://pastebin.com/B8SkUwWB (Out of date, needs to be updated)
First Playtest: http://pastebin.com/Vy1E0sHB
Second playtest:http://pastebin.com/qE1kW0YY
Third playtest: http://pastebin.com/sWj8Y87v
Fourth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/SHieN5zL
Fifth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/TGctR8VA
Sixth Playtest: http://pastebin.com/8wUw2Leg
Seventh Playtest: http://pastebin.com/ygcRPBzf

First Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/Ne7SpFMJ
Second Campaign Session: http://pastebin.com/2hbsDP74

Google doc for character creation:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8XSm73Ea4ECdDdP9V4IVJCEBji6HPw43LRPyUCDmx4/edit?usp=sharing

Playtests are hosted here; https://app.roll20.net/join/601097/mEiDCA

Magic IRC is hosted on Mibbit, network is AsyloIRC, room is #DVVmagic

Experimental new rules for Yzmic Chimeras http://pastebin.com/p2QaTaiB

>>36778975
Yes, he is the Pirate Lord of the Indian Ocean.

>>36779953

Was he really?

>>36780112
He even has aK/L/R on the wiki.

>Going through old threads to look for things people missed and put them on the wiki
>Thread called "Nobody gets statted like Gaston!"
>Gaston doesn't actually get statted
welp

>>36780308

That's rough. We've had fun the last few threads but we really ought to buckle down and get the rest of our villains statted out. I'm still working in Queen La but I'm also at work so it will take a while.

>>36780308
Technically true as neither Nobody nor Gaston have stats. Therefore Nobody got statted like Gaston: not statted at all.

>>36780308
>>36780438
In the thread before that, someone had mentioned they were going to stat Gaston. What a disappointment that turned out to be.

>>36780466
Oh, you cheeky little bugger you.

>>36780308
>>36780438
I'd be happy to help out but I'm way too new to this shit to make anything worthwhile or balanced. If nothing's together in a few days when I've read up and acclimatized more I'll see what I can do.

>>36780556
Anything you'd like to contribute is much appreciated, though we know there's a lot to get yourself acclimated with on this project. Welcome aboard, in any case!

>>36779657
Speaking of statting hunters, should King Fergus be a pure combat monster or have also some sensible guy elements?

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Crustaceans

Miniscule to Small

Percussion, Strings, Winds, Words: +3 to Music checks made on love songs
This Does Not Kill the Crab: +2 Prevent Harm
Absolutely Insignificant: +2 on Stealth rolls, and another +2 against Humans.
OR
BIG MEATY CLAWS: +2 to Brawl.
OR
Omae Wa Mantis Shrimpdeiru: +2 to Brawl.

Beyond Shrimpy: +4 Agility, -2 Robustness
OR
Jumbo Shrimp: +2 Agility, +2 Sensibility, -2 Intelligence
OR
Who Are You Calling a Shrimp?: +2 Sensibility, +2 Robustness, -2 Intelligence

Acceptable?

>>36781319
Strong Sensible or Strong Charming, those are suitable for a warrior-king.

>>36781455
I like it

>>36781455
They should get bonuses to music
in romantic situations.

>>36781455
What about Pistol Shrimps huh
Don't they get some love
Also these are the same
>BIG MEATY CLAWS: +2 to Brawl.
>OR
>Omae Wa Mantis Shrimpdeiru: +2 to Brawl.

>>36781455
>Percussion, Strings, Winds, Words: +3 to Music checks made on love songs
Anon rolled a natural 1 on reading comprehension.

>>36781455
A minuscle crab with the Beyond Shrimpy bonus would start with 14/14 Agility before he even starts spending points. Except for that looks fine.

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>Chef Louis

Here's a man who leaves his home and family, travels to a new land, works his way up to fucking HEAD CHEF TO THE ROYAL FAMILY and then some crab drops a mast on his head and shatters his teeth and ends his career, even if there wasn't long lasting brain trauma.

Where's his re-imagined perspective film?

>>36781614
Right, so rewrite the first trait.
Percussion, Strings, Winds, Words: +3 to Music checks in romantic situations.

>>36781708
I'd say a Pistol Shrimp is a Tiny Mantis Shrimp, but that would be technically inaccurate on account of them not being too closely related and their similarity being entirely by convergent evolution. And yes, those last 2 traits are the same, I only made them separate both for humor. The other title on the drawing board for the second is ONETWOTHREEDEATH!

>>36781732
Well damn, I did. My wholehearted apologies.

>>36781738
>ends his career
But he didn't. In the sequel he still was the cook and he even bagged himself a girl in the end.

>>36781738
I don't know, he seemed to enjoy butchering fish a bit too much...

>>36781732
Fair enough.
Beyond Shrimpy: +2 Agility, +2 Sensibility, -2 Robustness

>>36781738
If there were out there on the internet somewhere a Sebastian version of "This Kills The Crab", or if I possessed the skills and software to make such a pic myself, I would post it and say "pic related".

>>36781822
Hey, he didn't know that they were sapient. In fact, given his time period, he probably thinks they can't even feel pain.

>>36781784
I just want to play a tiny crustacean that can shoot bubbles of heat death meng
Or one that can see about 100 more types of colors than us

Hey, I'm here a tad early today, work got cut short. I'd like to ask all the playtest members to go to the roll20 page and post in the new thread, because we need to talk.

Also, yeah Knight, saving up for agility.

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>>36782041
SHIT GOING DOWN

Will Sverd be able to restore peace to the land? Or will the divisions between the kingdom of man keep them separated for the rest of eternity(or the campaign, whatever's faster)? Find out on the next episode of MEAN GIRLS

So If the Yamato is being crewed/tended for by uplifted crab-men, should we make unique crew-members base on certain crab types, Strong/Nimble mantis shrimp boxer for example

>>36782106
Why did you use my name to post that?

>>36782041
>>36782106
>>36782128
Oh shit
Now we got a doppleganger case on our hands

>>36782271
This is just like my Spanish soap operas

>>36782128
>>36782106
>>36782403
Ay! Los dos son impostores!

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>>36782271
>>36782106
witchcraft....!

Last thread people were talking about how to deal with La's ability to body jump, my suggestion is as such.

Static Power
Undying Soul
Whenever La would die instead her spirit simply becomes unhinged and needs time to recouperate(a day/week/wahtever) once she has recouperated La's spirit becomes active once again and seeks to possess the nearest living creature regardless of species(Possessing a nonhuman with no magical power of it's own diminishes La's mystical abilities to nearly nothing while she remains within such a body)

Active Power
Body-Shift
While inside a living body Queen La can spens X Will Point(s) and two actions to shift her mind and soul into another being's body, the afflicted creature must make a TN XX (some form of resistance or maybe a contested check) or have there mind suppressed by La's as she asserts control of thee body. Every day a new check can be made to regain control unless they fail 3 consecutive saves in which case La gains true control of her new body and the spirit of the former is trapped until La ejects herself, those who beat La for control however instead suppress La's attempts to control them leaving her 'stuck' inside of them, daily checks occur normally as La attempt to take control, La can as well spend X Will Points(where X is how many she has total) to attempt to force a second control check.

-

When La takes over a body she should probably just carry over her mental stats while gaining the physical stats of the new body. Hope this helps.

Knightfag, I can't find you for shit. Can you try adding me instead?

>>36782703
I like it because it makes Queen La dangerous in a very different way and, like a lot of DVV's other Kings and Queens, necessitates that the PCs think carefully about how hey interact with her and what to do with her once they decide that she needs to go.

>>36782839
>>36782703

What would work is if this power is kept hidden or only hinted at through old legends and such, making its eventual reveal a surprise to the players. I think that this power might be best used against an NPC that the characters have grown attached to, or against a PC who's player is amenable to the idea beforehand. It probably shouldn't be used against any old PC as players might not cotton to the idea of their character getting hijacked.

>>36782703
Should probably add some kind of temporary physical penalty for adjusting to the body.

>thread nearly dead
Quickly, someone get True Love's First Kiss.

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Bumping the bread while still working on La. Leaving work momentarily but with errands to run in the meantime. Hopefully I'll have something completed for later on this evening.

>>36783072
>Queen La is finally cornered and defeated in a decisive and dramatic finaly battle, and that night the party and the entire City of Opar is celebrating their newfound freedom.
>All except for the young Leopard Girl who'd been your guide since entering this jungle land seems quiet and withdraw, shaking her head and murmuring to herself.
>She'd been here and witnessed Queen La's demise, the poor thing, and must be traumatized. Attempts to speak to her are met with angry hissing or frightened pleas to be left alone.
>After a night of feasting, drinking and dancing, the party staggers off to find beds in the Royal Palace in which to sleep off their drunkeness, ready for the rest they deserve.
>They are awoken in the night by the sound of small feet on the stone floors beside their bed, the Leopard Girl wielding a wicked blade with a wicked smile in her face but terror in her eyes.

Dread, Nobody and Ponderous, if you are in the thread respond to the roll20 thread.

>>36784723
Cool beans, now we just need Dread and Nobody.

>>36783878
Might write something more about this. Damn I need more time in this thread.

Quick question i'm a little behind and I see you have 2 of the "horsemen". Is there any fluff about them besides their stats? Have you figured where Famine and Pestilence are? if you haven't then i then famine lives in scars realm and Pestilence would be with oogie boogie.

>>36785176

I'm not sure to be honest, I'm sorry.

>>36783072
Occasional references to La 'always' having ruled Opar but if players look deep enough they find art that depicts different women ruling Opar throughout it's history. Does anyone remember if La had only recently taken over Opar in the show or if it was ambiguous/specifically stated that she has ruled it for a while?

>>36783878
This, I like this.

>>36785176
>Quick question i'm a little behind and I see you have 2 of the "horsemen". Is there any fluff about them besides their stats?
Villain-statting guy here
Nope
Not besides their bio
And they're supposed to be Wild West villains
So uh, do with that as you please
If you want you can make their base in the Old West and they fuck off to do shit elsewhere I guess

>>36785550
War is in the west, Death is in England, the other two weren't on there so i wasn't sure if there was more info on them. do they have to be wild west villains because you already screwed that up.

Didsome digging to find some ideas for Enemies since we still need some example Villians for... well everywhere as far as I can tell. Here's what I have from the Little Mermaid show

-Lobster Mobster(and Da Shrimp)
Not much on him, hes a Lobster who is a Mobster, could make for a good Zero Tier enemy though for campaigns that start unda da sea

-Brain Sponge
Seems to be a mostly 'mindless' monster that devours life force, its more leech than sponge and seems to prefer particularly powerful beings. Ariel turned it on Manta in the show so that could be a way that those who are having a problem with Manta could deal with him.

-Little Evil
Evil Manta's son, not much too him other than the fact that he's probably older at this point in the timeline and if Ariel never met him or never successfully turned Little away from evil then he's probably on his way to being just like his father at this point but perhaps not beyond redemption.

-Ebb and Flo
a pair of alifator thieves, like the mobster they are not particularly 'big' and are not especially powerful, but could make for decent low level enemies.

the real heavy hitters seem to be these two

-Evil Manta(Hero Tier Enemy? Not quite King Tier but an all around badass)
Big time enemy for those looking to free the sea from Ursula's grasp(and perhaps an enemy to those traveling the seas) he's a pretty big problem from what I gathered of my recollections of the show and what I read on his wiki entry, probably suited for high On-A-Roll tier players through to low Hero tier he even comes with a couple villainous allies. Probably acting as a self interested force under the sea or is in Ursula's employ.

-Emperor Sharga
King of the Sharkanians, I saw him on the wiki and considering he wanted to take Atlantica for himself I'd say he's probably a relatively powerful being, probably on par with Manta though with brute force where Manta has magic.

>>36785738
What
Where'd you get this information

>>36785509
I want to say that she's been ruling for a long, LONG time. I thinking says as much in her KLR.

>>36786622
Oh wait you're talking about THAT death
It could be death
Or it could just be a powerful undead
He's not a rider no
Sorry for the confusion

>>36786622
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disney_Villains_Victorious_K/L/Rs
3.Reaper

>>36785001
Okay my info's posted. Sorry about the delay, I was in my last final.

>>36786868
>>36786701

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Warmup achieved. This crabmen thing intrigues me, what's the whole story? We going Little Mermaid?

>>36786701
>>36787169
It was phrased the same as war so I assumed they were part of a set.

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>>36787219
Have you seen that gif/webm floating around of that giant hermit crab that uses a sunken ship as its shell? We're thinking that, but with an Atlantean submarine, plus its weapons are in working order and manned by crabmen.

>>36787268
Ah, sorry.

>>36787302
You mean Diluvion? Only with the Ulysses?

I like this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4QFhfQCc5w

>>36787379
I was going to say it should be a more modern Atlantean submarine, but then if it was the Ulysses itself it would a certain......je ne sais quois, non?

>>36787514
The Ulysses would maybe be more impactful, but if its a more modern Atlantean vessel it will have the necessary technology to safely bypass the Leviathan's Defense Perimeter, and a Crystal Powerplant to overload and blow up.

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>>36787514
>it would HAVE a certain
Eugh. By the way, dearest drawfag, once you've got your group shot of DTP done, would consider doing some shots of DTP with some of the characters they met in the playtests?

Playtest 1:
>Sverd, Hannah and Jeremiah met:
>Bruce "Dances With Antelopes" Smith: Carries a rifle, hunting knife, "magic beads", wears a buckskin outfit with a pair of bullet bandoliers (which were pretty full after he loaded up at the police station), you know, pretty standard frontiersman outfit. He could pass for one of the Sioux, or for a white man.
>Naacha: Nimble Nile Crocodile. Probably not the biggest one out there, but still of a respectable size.

Playtest 3:
>Jeremiah met:
>Raymond Rivers: An Atlantean 'citizen'. Standing at 5’4”, what Raymond lacks in height and cleanliness, he makes up for in style. His black hair is spiky and slick, usually pushed back by the pair of aviators on his forehead. Round faces and sharp noses, his thin lips are usually turned up in a smirk. Raymond’s most characteristic feature seems to be his thick eyebrows. He wears a dirty biker jacket.
>Captain Anitelu Ahomana, Pirate-Prince of Polynesia: A strong prince of a small Polynesian island who decided he preferred a life of piracy. Strong of jaw, long of hair, and both tattooed and built heavily. Wears a white tunic, light brown trowsers, big black boots, a great red overcoat, all fancy, complete with very broad golden epaulettes, and upon his head rests a cheesily large black bicorne with a skull and crossbones with a stuck out tongue, which he intends to fly as his own flag someday because he's SSSOOOOOO original. Wields a heavy saber and a shotgun. Pic related.
>Brawlin' Bart: The Captain's first mate and constant companion. Google image "bloody bradigan" and you'll get his character art on the second hit.
>Vergil: A well read gentleman guinea pig. A fairly large and plump brown guinea pig, wearing a vest and waistcoat complete with handkerchiefs and monocle.

>>36788487
or the Leviathan would simply ignore it having already wrecked it once, and the crab that carries it registers as ambient wildlife?

Bumping before I head home and can rid myself of this stupid phone and post in earnest.

Just an idea: We could integrate flaws that would give you a certain number of free Lessons at character creation, but would limit your character significantly. These can be bought off for the price of a trait if and when the GM decides that your character has matured past the flaw. Examples:
Bleeding Heart: You are trusting of anyone with a sob story. -3 to Insight against these people
Pacifist: You may not initiate combat unless your opponents have already attacked a party member
You're All Wizards!: Upon failing an Endure save that you must take every time you see something that goes contrary to your ideals, you use your highest stat for all attacks, but must be hostile to everyone around you.

>>36789534
>You're All Wizards!: Upon failing an Endure save that you must take every time you see something that goes contrary to your ideals, you use your highest stat for all attacks, but must be hostile to everyone around you.
This would be and example of a Huge Flaw. This means that it counts as 2 flaws, granting twice the bonus and costing twice as much to buy off.

>>36790140
>A berserking character can be restored to sanity by dealing two strikes on him, or a single strike if it is dealt by the berserking character's primary stat, ie, smacking a robust character in the face, tripping a nimble character, talking a sensible character out of the tree and telling him to put down the gun
Thoughts? These flaws are still a rough draft

>>36790329
I like it

>>36779657
what am I looking at here? The rapebaby of Jafar and Kida from Atlantis?

>>36790456
Queen La

>>36787219
Awesome work as always!

>>36790456
That's Queen La, a villain from the Tarzan universe who rules over a lost city of leopard men in the African jungle. She has the power to transfer her consciousness from body to body, which she has used to survive and rule her nation for centuries if not thousands of years.

>>36790647
>>36790456
neat

>>36785001
Done and done.

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Okay, been thinking about Combo.
A) Look at the stat of the villains and Kings. Considering that the caps on traits is 12, 14 and 16 for Zero, On A Roll and Heroic (14,16 and 18 if you're miniscule, tiny or huge, but huge won't come up in this case), is this trait really going to be used that often against significant opponents if you have to beat their Agility by 5? Perhaps we should reduce how much you have to beat their agility by to 3.
B) We need traits of similar potency for other attributes. A proposal for Robustness:
>Overwhelming Brawn: If your Robustness exceeds your opponent's Robustness by 3 or more, decrease the threshold to deal extra physical strikes by 3 so long as they are dealt with Robustness.

Also, we have no statlines for fish. It would be wonderful if someone could fix that in the next 24 hours. Though actually statting up any of the remaining kings would be better.

>>36791352
I'll see what I can do. But what kind of fish? They'll probably range from Minuscule to Large.

Name: Queen La of the Lost City of Opar
Role: Charming/Nimble
Class: Demagogue
Country of Origin: Land of the Leopards
Size: Medium
Species: Human
---Attributes---
Robustness: 13/16
Agility: 15/16
Intelligence: 10/16
Sensibility: 12/16
Charm: 18/18
Will: 3/3
Strikes: 10+3X
---Skills---
Acrobatics: 10
Ranged: 3
Melee: 4
Brawl: 7
Prevent Harm: 10
Endure: 11
Stealth: 8
Deceit: 11
Persuasion: 13
Intimidate: 11
Occult: 11
Travel: 8
Insight: 3
---Traits---
Mistress of an Army: Can call in any Villains that haven’t been defeated.
QUEEN: This unit is a QUEEN, with all the benefits that entails.
Quick Like a Cat: If this unit’s agility score exceeds that of her foe by at least 5 points, she can attack a second time in the same turn..
Animal Magnetism: +3 Deceit, +3 Persuasion while attempting an act of seduction.
Queen of the Jungle: +2 Stealth, +2 Travel while in the jungle or +2 Persuasion, +2 Intimidate while in the Lost City of Opar.

>>36793007
---Powers---
We Could Rule Together, Side By Side: Spend a Will Point. +10 Persuasion while offering to make the targeted PC Queen La’s Royal Consort.
On The Prowl: Spend a Will Point. +10 Stealth while attempting to stalk the PCs unseen.
Unfinished Business: Queen La’s shamanic spirit persists after she is killed, regaining strength and magical potential for twice as many days as there are characters in the party, minus the number of unspent Will Points she had at the time of her death. Her spirit will then seek to possess the nearest living creature regardless of species, but possessing a non-humanoid with no magical power of its own greatly diminishes La's mystical abilities.
The Queen Is Dead, Long Live The Queen: Spend three Will Points. Queen La can attempt to transfer her mind and soul into another being's body in a shamanic ritual that takes three rounds to complete. If she does not receive two strikes before the ritual finishes, the target of her spell must check their Endure + Insight scores, multiplied by their unspent Will Points against Queen La’s Persuade + Intimidate + Occult scores. If this check is not passed, Queen La’s spirit will take over, rendering the original character’s soul a passenger in their own body. This same check may however be attempted once per day thereafter to try and wrest control back from La, making her the passenger instead.
---Equipment---
Leopard Staff of Opar: +3 Melee, +3 Occult
Shaman Queen’s Vestments: +3 Persuade, +2 Intimidate, +2 Prevent Harm

>>36793007
>>36793019
It's late so I apologize if Queen La's stats are crap here, or if the body-swapping mechanic is unwelcome or doesn't make sense. I know it needs a good deal of polish. Hopefully come tomorrow morning I might be able to do a bit of writing about that blurb above, or stat more Kings and Queens to get the ball rolling again.

>>36793137
>a bit of writing about that blurb above

La, Opar and the Leopards could use a little fluff. Unless I've missed something they're kind of just there at the moment.

>>36793137
Seems pretty fine, but I'd still wait for a second opinion before putting it on the wiki.

>>36793007
>een La can attempt to transfer her mind and soul into another being's body in a shamanic ritual that takes three rounds to complete. If she does not receive two strikes before the ritual finishes, the target of her spell must check their Endure + Insight scores, multiplied

she had the ability to just blast people with her staff so perhaps give her the Stat+Occult magical attack that some of the other caster kings have with the requirement taht she has the staff?

bump

>>36794198
That's exactly what I'm hoping for, thank you.

>>36794625
I gave her a pittance of a ranged skill because I'd thought that she might have some sort of magical attack like that, but do you think I ought to rebalance her stats to make ranged magical attacks more powerful? Should I give her a Trait or a Power to boost this attack? I've never actually seen the character in action.

>>36793306
I'll see what I can do.

>>36795646

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxLr3cq_YeQ

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>>36791820
Well, "fish" IS a rather broad category. I suppose we need to nail down what traits all fish have (would that be anything other than gills and being really good at swimming?) and then come up with clusters of traits and stat adjustments for all the different kinds of fish....sharks, for instance, would have significant Brawl and Intimidate bonuses while having Persuasion penalties because nobody likes sharks except fro other sharks and remoras.

Oh, and whales, we need to stat those up too.

>>36793306
>>36795646
Remember that Opar was once Atlantis' sister city, and that IF Behemoth does exist, it's going to be nearby.

>>36796228
>>36795646
>>36794625
Okay so she definitely has more magical powers than I'd thought she'd have. Serves me right for not watching the source material beforehand. I'm also noticing that I'd forgotten to change her class to "Shaman Queen" or something from Demagogue as well. My inclination here would be to simply restat the Leopard Staff of Opar to replace the +3 Occult score +4 Ranged and treat her spell-flinging as standard ranged attacks. Also, seeing as how she can apparently teleport as well, we could add the following Power to her repertoire:

Teleportation: Spend one Will Point. This unit may teleport one Occult skill check's number of feet while in combat.

Also: Has there been any discussion as to what the Leopard Men of Opar are like as a people? Are they all just generic mooks and henchmen in Queen La's thrall as seen in the show, or are we construing them as having an actual culture with men, women and children as per >>36783878 ?

>>36796245

If not a sister city or an ally, it was perhaps one of Atlantis' enemy targets in their great primordial war. Who's to say whether the Behemoth was trying to protect the city or destroy it.

>>36796342
>>36796245
I'd personally say we should leave the behemoth up to the GM. Put something vague about it in the canon, maybe stat it. That way it's the GM's call if it's a cool backdrop/setpiece or an actual plot element.

>>36796342
>>36796245
>Opar was one of Atlantis' enemies during the Great War, and the Behemoth was sent to wreck their shit, which it did very, very well.
>Opar's last true Kings use their own form of sun-powered Crystal-Tech to defeat the Behemoth, sending the construct into repair/hibernation mode.
>Everything but the innermost precinct of Opar's capital city is completely destroyed, and the beaten nation is slowly reclaimed by the jungle.
>An entire jungle's worth of huge trees and dense foliage grow from the ruins of Opar, rooting the Behemoth to the ground and burying it under greenery.
>Some time later, a young Shaman discovers the remains of the once-great nation and uses her powers to take control of the populace.

>>36796365
Oh, it's definitely a GM's discretion sort of thing. It's something fun to talk about and to stat, but it's DEFINITELY not what you'd call "Hard Canon" in any way.

Rumors, myths and speculation.

But moving back on topic, did we ever "Hard Canon" fluff the Opar Leopard Man civilization?

>>36796460
Perhaps the Leopard men are the remnants of Opars army? After the death of the last true king, the once great legion of leopard men created to protect their realm eventually degraded to their current state

>>36796506

I'm inclined to say that the Leopard Men and Women are the remnants of the city's original civilization as a whole that have fallen back into a more primitive way of life after WHATEVER happened to Opar happened.

After that, La just swept in and took over through her charms and magics, not really caring to restore the city or its people to their former glory.

>>36796563
If I remember my E.R. Borroughs Opar is inhabited both by animal-men and amazons, the former being reduced to their state by magical pollution and inbreeding. In the cartoon however it turned out they were just regular leopards transformed by one of La's spells. In the books it is also said pretty much directly that Opar was an atlantean colony.

>>36796613
Thanks for bringing your knowledge of the original books to this matter! I think we're going to be best served here with a little mixing and matching of influences plus a little invention of our own. It's worked well for the other nations. I have to step away for a while but will post when I can.

Hopefully discussion can continue

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Drawfag, pls come back! I need more drawings and am suffering withdrawal symptoms.

>>36791352
>Overwhelming Brawn: If your Robustness exceeds your opponent's Robustness by 3 or more, decrease the threshold to deal extra physical strikes by 3 so long as they are dealt with Robustness.

I'm surprised no one have commented on this. Are all the crunchfags busy with exams? Anyways, a question I'd like to ask about proposals for Intelligence, Sensibility and Charisma. Combo and Overwhelming Brawn are based on having better Agility or Robustness (respectively) than your target. However, that's in physical combat where strikes can be both dealt and resisted by Agility or Robustness; social strikes can only be resisted by Sensibility barring nonstandard circumstances (Occult+Charisma or Science+Charisma to scare people with magic gibberish or big fancy words? Can be resisted by Intelligence plus their respective skills. Robustness Intimidate? Can be resisted by Robustness)....so, what do I do? Should the Sensibility and Charisma traits be about having higher of the same attribute as your opponent, or the one that typically opposes it? In either case, would rerolls for resisting/dealing social strikes be a suitable bonus? And what the fuck do I do with Intelligence?

So with Yamato how are we going to handle the Crabby Crew

>>36797501
Human-crab chimeras. The real problem lies with how we're going to do the submarine itself.

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Tiny and Small fishes are going to need an Agility bonus, whereas Medium and Large fishes are going to need a Robustness bonus. What unique traits should all fish share? A desire for shiny things? They're going to have a trait that doesn't take up a trait slot called "waterbound" which vastly increases their swim speed, lets them breathe underwater, but have a VERY hard time moving above water. Should fishes have a bonus to Sensibility or Charisma? ((definitely not intelligence))

>>36798061
If we limited ourselves strictly to predatory fish, only some of them are vision-based and would thus be interested in shiny moving things, while the others would be scent based and thus interested in anything the smells like prey. No idea about non-predatory fish. Damn, I do not know jack shit about fish.

Also, would an orca count for large or huge?

>>36798061
Maybe we could leave them for the underwater expansion for the moment, since they'll have one hell of a hard time getting shit done on land. Anphibi on the other hand...

>>36798253
We should have fish and whales up not necessarily as PCs, just so that the GM can throw them at the players if he wishes.

>>36798406
Knight, appointment on the skype channel for the playtest group was at 6 right?

>working on whale template
>come to a snag
Toothed whales have echolocation, baleen whales don't. However, I'm not sure exactly what that should do, nor what the baleen whales should get. I considered raising the Robustness cap, but then I remembered that sperm whales are bigger than a fair number of baleen whales while still having teeth and echolocation.

I'm going to go walk the dog and see if anyone has any ideas by the time I'm back.

>>36798989
I believe it was.

>>36799094
That is a sticking point, yeah. What about giving whales in general that rule and making Blue Whales a special case with some other kind of drawback: such as being a blue whale and as such unable to fit inside pretty much anything at all? I mean if you pick a blue whale you're the toughest animal by nature of your size alone, and you get echolocation, but you're stuck waiting outside of every building, cave, or vehicle your party decides to go into.

>>36799467
Tha's the main drawback of dinosaur characters, but they also get huge bonuses for it.

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>>36800219
We don't need a 15 minute bump. Wait until we're on page six if not further back. /tg/'s not that fast: judging by the catalog it takes about four hours to reach page ten right now.

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>>36799467
>>36799942
Okay, I did a little research. How does this sound:
>toothed whales get echolocation
>baleen whales can be heard really, really, really far away
>the two attribute adjustments you can choose from are
>Dolphin and Porpoise (needs better name): +2 Agility, +2 Charm, -2 Sensibility
>Leviathan: +4 Robustness, -2 Agility, +2 Robustness Cap if Huge

>>36800629
Both dolphins an porpoises are Delphinoidea, but the family also includes Killer Whales and I'm not sure the bonus would suit.

>>36800629
>Be Vaquita
>Choose Leviathan
>Become the smallest tank known to man

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>>36800816
Compare an orca to a sperm whale. Both are huge size, but the sperm whale is much, much bigger, while the orca is more agile and social.

-Sharks
Size: Tiny to Large (Fuck you I'm not counting Meglodons or Whale Sharks)
Natural Weapons: Very sharp and many teeth give +2 on Brawl rolls.
Racial Traits:
-Oh My, What Sharp Teeth You Have!: Attacks have a 50% chance to cause Bleeding.
-Bloodlust: Gain +2 Robustness and Agility against Bleeding opponents.
Aquatic Creature: 4x movement in water, 0.1x movement on land.
-Fearsome Appearance: +4(or +3?) to Intimidate against units size Medium and below. [Medium and Large Sharks only]
-Slippery Git: +2 Prevent Harm and +1 Agility against units size Medium and above. [Small and Tiny Sharks only.]
Attribute Bonuses:
All Bark, No Bite: +2 Charm, +2 Sensibility, -2 Robustness.
OR
Jaws: +2 to Robustness , +2 Sensibility, -2 Intelligence.

>>36801495
>Attacks have a 50% chance to cause Bleeding
Just make it so that successful Brawl strikes cause bleeding.
>fearsome appearance
+3.
Slippery Git: +3 Prevent Harm, no bonuses to Agility because that makes things awkward.

>>36801552
-Sharks
Size: Tiny to Large (Fuck you I'm not counting Meglodons or Whale Sharks)
Natural Weapons: Very sharp and many teeth give +2 on Brawl rolls.
Racial Traits:
-Oh My, What Sharp Teeth You Have!: Unit can cayse Bleeding on successful Brawl attacks.
-Bloodlust: Gain +2 Robustness and Agility against Bleeding opponents.
-Aquatic Creature: 4x movement in water, 0.1x movement on land.
-Fearsome Appearance: +3 to Intimidate against units size Medium and below. [Medium and Large Sharks only]
-Slippery Git: +3 Prevent Harm against units size Medium and above. [Small and Tiny Sharks only.]
Attribute Bonuses:
All Bark, No Bite: +2 Charm, +2 Sensibility, -2 Robustness.
OR
Jaws: +2 to Robustness , +2 Sensibility, -2 Intelligence.

Hey, I'm here. Remember our Skype meeting is at 6:00 today, playtesters.

>>36801937
Got it.

>>36801937
May be a little late. Doing a favor for a family member.

>>36801813
Gotta remember to add it to the pastebin.

Added La to wiki.

Is there a pastebin for whatever drawfaggotry has been done so far?

Where is everyone?

>>36779657
So I was reading the fluff fo Ratcliffe, and I noticed the description of Memphis, with the clever nod to the Parthenon. What would some Spartan/athen traits be? How would you stat the de-powered Ares and Athena?

Pond, if you're here get in the Skype channel.

Good to see that the thread is still going even if it's slow going.

>>36804399

I'm not sure where everyone is at. I know I had some personal business that needed doing.

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>>36804399

Holiday shopping, finals, traveling home after finals, stuck at the airport because of the holiday season rush and winter weather can be absolutely abhorrent, stuck at the mall in line to get last minute purchases paid for, stuck at the post office/FedEx office to ship out holiday gifts, romantic holiday interludes taken straight out of romcom movies--take your pick.

>>36805188
>romantic holiday interludes taken straight out of romcom movies
Oh, you've got a special lady?

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>>36805188
That... that thing in the photo...

Anyway, I've wanted to say again, Atlantean Writer, that I've really been enjoying your writing in these threads. It's definitely been a highlight in a project full of highlights.

>>36805188

God, that thing looks like it would be good for precisely two seconds and then the rest of the eating-digesting-excretion process is composed entirely of pain, regret and shame.

>>36779657
Is Frozen automatically still stronkest at everything because muh Emo parallel universe waifu?

>>36805980
yes

dragon fire can't melt magic ice. this has been status quo for months. NO GIMPING ELSA!! cry harder wizards

>>36805980
If all goes according to plan she's gonna meet her end at the point of a sword.

>>36806076
And by "point of a sword" you mean a penis, right?

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>>36805571

Unfortunately no--I'll say no more than that because this isn't the place to talk about such matters.

>>36805630

Well thank you for the love.

By the by, I've been trying to link up all of my old writings for previous /tg/ dabblings and quests to my Pastebin account, so if you want more of that, go check it.

>>36805980
Elsa's strong, but by no means the strongest in this setting. She is on the short list of "possibly redeemable Villains" however alone with Atlantis' Rourke.

>>36806076
Oh really?

>>36806172
>>36806197
Possibly. Or possibly a sword, depending how edgy the players are feeling. Elsa's up there in power, but she's below the top tier. She's just a crazy, dangerous lunatic with way too much magical power.

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Okay, so I know you guys are kind of sort of maybe waiting on more player pics, but... Victorious Disney villains...I cannot resist. Atlantis is a favorite of mine anyway.

litch Frollo sounds awesome. I think he might be next.

>>36806256
Thank you based drawfag.

>>36806256
Don't forgot he has a super team of ragtag misifits Not!Power Rangers

>>36806429
Team Atlantis.

Speaking of Team Atlantis, I wish that show actually happened.

Out of curiosity are we doing anything specifically with Pellucidar from the Tarzan show? I know we have some dinosaur stuff floating around but im not sure where they are supposed to be? (For those unaware Pellucidar is a land filled with dinosaurs under the jungle Tarzan lives in, how and why I don't know but its a thing)

>>36806536
No no no
Not team atlantis
Frollo
Frollo has a super team of ragtag misfit Not!Power Rangers

>>36806256
Drawfriend, any and all DVV pictures are entirely welcome! This one, in particular, is amazing for the mood lighting alone. Great work!

>>36806256
I really like your work. Your lines always match what one would expect from Disney, while your coloring is just different enough to be your own.

Two things I'd like to say to you. First, if you ever feel like doodling up Ziz like you did Behemoth, the fluff discussions make it quite likely that was either never built at all or never completed, so it might be cool if you draw him up as blueprints.

Second, what do you think of drawing characters DTP has run into after you're done their group portrait?
>>36788731

>>36806624
Yeah, Atlantis only has kung-fu secret agents.

>>36806211
By 'way too much' you mean less than the witch in Brave?

>>36806846
If I recall, the Disney Wiki has her as one of the most powerful sorcerors... ever.
Magic is sort of ill-defined in the Disneyverses, especially because they're not all the same universe, so perhaps the witch is incredibly powerful, or perhaps she's less a person and more an embodied spirit of nature.

>>36806172
Yes. But neither she nor Sverd are the sort to rush into that sort of thing.

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Glad you guys enjoy!

>>36806718
>feel like doodling up Ziz like you did Behemoth


YES. I was thinking a carving or tapestry sort of thing. Something Milo would try and "hide" from Rourke innocuously.


Here's a concept sketch of Pontifex Immortalis Frollo of the Grand Archdiocese.

>>36807963
Actually, that's the opposite of what we've agreed is going on; Milo uses Behemoth and Ziz to send Rourke on countless wild goose chases.

>>36807963
Aw you didn't include the Anointed Saint Squad
But seriously great job nonetheless

>>36808022
Well, I figured in order to play the ruse Milo would have to pretend he was trying to hide it from Rourke, who probably watches him very closely.

>>36808122
>>36808022
>>36807963

I'd actually REALLY like to see an ancient Atlantean carving or mosaic of the Big Three.

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>Ziz

what if...

>>36808370
Nah

>>36808370

Actually suggested this as a silly what-if in the previous thread. Ziz would definitely be the most advanced of the three Great Constructs though, making something akin to the Nazca Lines Hummingbird and the Thunderbird in design.

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>>36808856
>Nazca lines
Buried beneath each drawing is an Atlantean construct, with the Condor hiding Ziz himself.

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>>36808240
Here's a quickie. More tomorrow maybe.

>>36809374
Just wonderful! This is like an illustration of a major plot point getting discovered!

>>36809374
Fantastic. Though I can't help but wonder: if that is commemorative (Or ancient Atlantean propaganda) what is that in the middle that warranted getting fucked up by all three of them at once.

>>36809374
If you continue this picture, you MUST make the Behemoth, the Leviathan and the Ziz targeting what looks like Chernobog at the center of the mosaic.

>>36809374
I just noticed that the Leviathan has different colored eyes than the other two, that's a nice touch.

Random thought, but what if the eyes were supposed to be status indicators of some kind, maybe its in some long forgotten war room in a lower level of the palace somewhere, decorating a wall near a table-map of the continents before the flood?

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>>36809374
Shit man, I've been procrastinating drawing for about two hours now, and that's not really reated...

But shit this is awesome. You rock man. Keep being you.

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Soo, in theory, how would one, say, stat a spycrab for this? Just a passing curiosity.

>>36811507
THIS


Crustaceans

Miniscule to Small

Percussion, Strings, Winds, Words: +3 to Music checks in romantic situations.
This Does Not Kill the Crab: +2 Prevent Harm
Absolutely Insignificant: +2 on Stealth rolls, and another +2 against Humans.
OR
BIG MEATY CLAWS: +2 to Brawl.
OR
Omae Wa Mantis Shrimpdeiru: +2 to Brawl.

Beyond Shrimpy: +4 Agility, -2 Robustness
OR
Jumbo Shrimp: +2 Agility, +2 Sensibility, -2 Intelligence
OR
Who Are You Calling a Shrimp?: +2 Sensibility, +2 Robustness, -2 Intelligence

PLUS SHITTONS OF CHARM, SENSIBILITY, INTELLIGENCE, AND DISGUISE

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>>36811735
>>36811507
Now you're making ME want to do this if I get a chance to play.

So what Kings do we have left?

>>36812454
9
9 LEFT
WHY DOES YOUR NAME LACK THE YMOUS
INTRIGUING
OR THE WORK OF MAGIC
GET OUT WIZARDS

So let's get to the Huntsmen.

>>36812770
IT'S LATE AS SHIT AND ONLY THE BRITBONGS, SLAVS, AND OTHER YUROPOORS WOULD BE UP NOW
YOU DO IT

BUMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0xBCwkg3E

BUMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWwBcq4d7o

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Good morning folks! Glad to see that the thread is still around! I'll be trying to stat a few more Kings today while I'm at work. We've got to keep the crunch-ball rolling as we continue fluffing things out.

>>36813382
>>36814022
We appreciate the bumps, but maybe try to find a few Disney tunes next time?

>>36814199
>We appreciate the bumps, but maybe try to find a few Disney tunes next time?
NO

>>36806256
>>36809374

Writing a little something for these pictures here. Stay tuned.

Now that we've got a good grip on the Wild West, we need to figure what the villains are going to be for the Shadowlands, Virginia and Atlantis. Ideas I've remembered from before:
>Shadowlands:
>30-ft long possessed alligator
>Friend From The Other Side inhabiting a human body because he wanted to see all the sights to see in the mortal world
>Baron Samedi, Voodoo Necromancer (bonus points if he does the Thriller with his zombies)

>>36815054
What about some type of spiritual pawnshop where people try to pawn things to pay off heir debts? Or one of those stores that appears out of nowhere and sells anything you need, at a high price?

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>>36815320
Pic related

>>36815399

I would buy nothing from that man.

>>36815320

Have a really intelligent and mercantile sort of enemy running a Debt- based pawnshop. He's playing "by the rules" and has never technically cheated anyone, but he is absolutely pitiless and preys on the weak and the desperate.

>>36815054
Not a fan of Samedi, Facilier was designed to resemble him in a load of ways and he's also a 'god' so he's kinda way past any level of necomancy. Would be like adding Heracles into the Hercules setting.

>>36815734
Alright, but we should work in some sort of Voodoo bokor-necromancer.

>>36815837
What about someone who can given you "just a little more time" after you die, but who claims you as a zombie after you?

>>36815837
>>36815983
Sounds easy enough to design. Feels to me like the shadowlands are far easier to write characters for who feel at home.

>>36815983
Oh, that would work wonderfully. But what's he giving the Friends in return for all of this? Do they get your soul while he gets the body?

>>36816019
Exactly. You've just died. Have unfinished business? Want revenge? Need to say goodbye to a loved one? Want just one last amazing night in New Orleans?

This man can give it to you. He's got the power. Depending on the quality of your soul and how appealing a corpse you make, he can give you anything from a few hours to a few weeks' worth of time to do whatever it is you've got that needs doing. After that though, your body becomes his property and your soul is whisked away by his Friends to the Other side.

There are however stories told of a few men and women who have managed to trick this fellow, and who continue living their stolen half-lives in secrecy.

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>>36816168
How often do you think he could fail to collect before he gets eaten? Could helping a large number of his clients fool him in a short time remove from the picture without ever having to fight him?

Not to aggravate anything and I know this has been brought up before but it didn't get any attention so Nobody, would you consider giving Pondrous some sort of romantic hook in New Orleans or something? Characters that are flirty or charismatic like Ryder are very Disney but actual traditional pumpndump bards really, really aren't. In addition, most people would probably be (rightfully if you ask me) mad if you let him screw one of the canon more 'chaste' characters like Rapunzel.

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>>36816409
You say that

but disney has plenty of charismatic pumpndumpers. Disney shorthand for 'sleeping around' is dancing and romancing multiple women.

>>36816332
I'd imagine that there could be maybe three clients maximum who have managed to escape "collection," but more than likely it's just one crafty man or woman who found a loophole or ran away before their soul could be seperated from their body. I included the possibility for PC or NPC use, but if the Necromancer lost his steady supply of souls or had a number of clients who refused to pay, that could be enough ruin his reputation with the Friends. I'd allow the PCs to attempt this plan.

>>36816431
First, not as protagonists they don't.
Second, I'm pretty sure candlestick there is the only real example of someone following through on multiple romances even, and he's still hardly pump and dump. In addition, he's most certainly a background character. Disney is all about true love and romance, especially for their protagonists, not just fucking whoever is pretty at the moment.

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>>36816498
Not at protagonists by the end, because the moral has to be that they grow into nice christian values. The point I'm making is that disney isn't afraid of casual romance as a theme - having a PC who plays the wide game is plenty disney so long as it's presented in a fairly lighthearted way and is a character flaw.

Also pirates of the carribbean is in the canon for this setting - which has a very different approach to that shit. One of the two examples I can think of that involves both disney and prostitutes.

>>36816557
>naveen was pump and dump
Top lel. The second he entered into a Disney film and became a protagonist all those feelings disappeared in 30 minutes. It was also noted to be his literal primary flaw that Tiana fixed, along with his laziness. I'm also noting that protagonists can certainly start off with hedonistic values, but having them at the end is very anti-Disney, which is why I suggested a waifu in Orleans. The only light Disney has ever shown casual romance and traditional bards in is a very much negative one, and a primary point of new Disney movies is that characters grow out of their flaws.
Jack was more of a villain than anyone else in Pirates, reminder.

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>>36816628
That's pretty much exactly what I said.

>>36816665
Well, it was an expansion on what you said.
Glad we both agree then friend :)

And seriously Nobody Important, I think it would be good to give him an Orleans Waifu.

>>36816432
Of course, if he catches onto the PCs, he'll likely go to his Friends and say "Look, you're upset that you're not getting souls, but I have found out that someone is actively sabotaging our little enterprise here. I'm using all the resources at my disposal to find and eliminate them; I think it's in everyone's best interests if you forgive and forget these past few missing souls and seek out these saboteurs as well." That would make this route harder but not impossible for the PCs.

>>36816705
Still, as much as it might not be Disney, you can't exactly force a player to romance an NPC because you think it fits your setting better. That's just bad GMing.

>>36816557
Pump and dumping traditional bards isn't lighthearted, though.

>>36816705
The point being a character who's wining and dining around the ballpark isn't out of the ordinary for disney. It would be very disney if he then found a single chick who he fell for.

Also Hannah Montana expansion when.

>>36816727
It is if it's presented as nothing more than dancing and romance.

>>36816722
Well, obviously you would ask permission first.

>>36816731
>>36816727
>>36816705
>>36816665
>>36816628
>>36816557
>>36816498
>>36816431
>>36816409
How about you all wait until Pond says what he thinks of all this?

For now, all I'd suggest to Nob is that the children of the Apache tribe be delighted by his music and stories, and that the shaman be interested in discussing the Friends On The Other Side and their mortal servants.

>>36816731
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. He is currently being very traditional bard-y and it would be a lot more Disney if he found a waifu to settle down with.
>>36816739
This is very unsure.

>>36816784
>Trying to tell somebody how to play their character
Please tell me I'm misinterpreting this.

>>36816865
I am not trying to tell him to do anything. I am only making a suggestion because of the setting.

>>36816887
Oh, alright then. Just don't start bitching if you don't get your way, because that's being That Guy.

>>36809374
>>36806256
“I do hope this is important, Thatch.”

Imperial President Rourke drawled as be and Milo Thatch found themselves traversing another drippy, cavernous chamber, the older man paying no attention to the ancient beauty of the vast, colonnaded hall, not even sparing a glance at the mosaic of the constellations on the ceiling high above. Clapping one large hand on the Historian General’s shoulder, the older man spoke in that droll, patriarchal tone that he always used when trying to make light of something that he actually found deeply irksome.

“I get no more than three waking hours to myself a day, and instead of spending those three hours enjoying the Commandos game on the radio with a stiff drink and a fine cigar, you’ve got me tramping around in a soggy basement.”

Although he had been cowed by Rourke’s fatherly bullying in the past more times than he would care to admit, Milo Thatch had done some growing up in the twenty years since Atlantis had rose above the waves, and to his credit did not so much as flinch at the man’s cantankerousness or the weight of his heavy hand. Favoring his President with a look of hard-won authority, the bearded, bespectacled man replied in a voice that was steady and certain enough to quell Rourke’s irritability. For the moment, at least.

“Oh, I think you’ll find your time here in this “soggy basement” better spent once you see what I have to show you, Sir. And besides, Communications General Packard records all the games anyway.”

“Alright, alright, but listening to a prerecorded baseball isn’t the same Thatch, and you know it.”

I have to see what Kings are left unstatted. The Hunstmen's Block intimidate me a bit.

>>36818264
Only Beckett and King Louis.

>>36779657
Gay ass shit

This shit is gay

I thought I got away from these shitty ideas by filtering like a motherfucker, but you guys keep sneaking through.

Now I'll never see anything with disney in the title ever again. Fuck off with this gay shit.

>>36818389
Literally nothing of value was lost. Have fun in /a/quest #527373, you useless fucking tumor.

>>36818389

Well, yeah, it's pretty happy. It's Disney, you know, Disney usually happy

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>>36818389

bump

>>36817564
Dis gon' be gud

Oh shit guys, I just realized something. I need to rephrase Overwhelming Brawn so that it doesn't stack with any other threshold reducing powers or else it could become TOO good.
>Overwhelming Brawn: If your Robustness exceeds your opponent's Robustness by 3 or more, your physical attacks score an additional Strike for every 7 point over the opponent's defense instead of every 10 so long as they are dealt with Robustness.
>Unnamed Martial Arts trait/power: Your Brawl attacks score an additional Strike for every 8 point over the opponent's defense instead of every 10
There, now they can't stack, crisis averted.

Well, might as well stat up some Shadowland villains....

where is everyone?

>>36820189
Preoccupied, I'll try to write a story later on tonight.

>>36820189
There's finals afoot.

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>>36820189
It's a tiring time of the year for a lot of people and while some if us may have more free one in which to post, fluff and crunch, a lot of us don't have the luxury and may be suffering from a little holiday burnout. I know it's been affecting me.

>>36820189
I currently have the first span of free time I've had in nearly a month, and steam overwrote my Dark Souls save file, so I've got a lot of catching up to do.
That being said, expect the next DTP tonight

>>36816765
>How about you all wait until Pond says what he thinks of all this?
Thank you, Knight. Glad to see that my character isn't being totally developed without me. Honestly, I'm surprised. Has someone been writing fluff for Armand without me noticing? So far, his romantic history is as follows: He talked to an Indian woman. That is all. Honestly, you all seem to have assumed a lot about my character that has not actually happened.

Exactly how long have the villains been in power now?

>>36821213
>moderately flirtatiously

Dude, you were trying to screw her hardcore. Do you hear yourself talk?
>As I fell, I made deep, tender eye contact with the Indian girl - you trying to speak for the GM
>I start to play a song, a song of the fallen ((it's just a sad song to emphasize with Runs)) - you trying to draw weird backstory parallels

Not even mad but I see the concerns if you're gonna be acting like that with everyone.

>>36821340
It's probably been a couple years since Chernabog mashed the timelines together, but before then it can vary wildly. I think Rourke's Atlantis was founded around the time that the world went to pot, but Shan Yu had been trying to reign in China for a good long while before then.

>>36821340
A couple of decades, 30 years at most if I remember correctly.

>>36821340
It varies from villain to villain iirc. The idea is that each has been essentially slotted into place at different times, allowing things like the Republic of Atlantis to grow and develop, but some places, like Arendelle, are less than a decade old. I think we decided this in a strawpoll a few dozen threads back.

>>36821348
That was intentionally overdone, yes. However, people seem to think that I have screwed the entire female population of the West, and then half the males as well when I ran out of women. Calm down. If there are issues in the campaign, we can work that out between me, Knight, Dread, Nob, Sverd, and Moss. Can we please try to focus on fluffing and crunching the setting as a whole, rather than the one campaign currently going on?

>>36810144
The Kraken should be in there somewhere.

>>36821397
Rourke's been in charge in Atlantis for around 20 years, so as to give a generation of young Atlantean Americans the time to grow up into adventurers.

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More because more.

>>36818389
>GAY ASS SHIT
MY FRIEND, I BELIEVE YOU ARE MISTAKEN
FOR YOU SEE, THIS THREAD APPEARS TO CONTAIN ABSOLUTELY NO FECAL MATTER WHATSOEVER
I DOUBLE CHECKED
I EVEN ASKED THE THREAD IF LIKES DICKS OR CHICKS
IT SAID "Fuck no I don't like dicks. That's some gay ass shit man thinking I like dicks. Chicks all the way bruh"
I HAVE ALSO DETERMINED THAT THIS THREAD HAS NO ASS, THEREFORE, CANNOT BE THE GAY ASS SHIT, AS IT HAS NO ASS, NO SHIT, AND IS HETROSEXUAL

There are EIGHT kings left to stat.
Come on, guys! Eight! And we can probably streamline the huntsmen, which are six of them!

RUNNING IN THE 90'S
IS A NEW WAY I LIKE TO BE
I'M JUST
RUNNING IN THE 90'S
COME ON BABY RUN TO ME
WE ARE
RUNNING IN THE 90'S
IS A NEW WAY TO SET ME FREE
I'M JUST
RUNNING IN THE 90'S
YES I WANNA KNOW
YES I WANNA SEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0xBCwkg3E

>>36823760
>>36825397
Please stop shitposting and contribute something useful to the threads.

>>36824561
There was discussion of streamlining the yes, as they would often work as a tem and have significantly similar training and skill sets.

>Muntz: The Smart Hunter
>Gaston: The Strong Hunter
>Clayton: The Charming Hunter
>McLeach: The Sensible Hunter

>>36825420
IS IT TRULY SHITPOSTING WHEN I'M BUMPING ANON
IS IT TRULY
PLUS RUNNING IN THE 90'S IS A PRETTY GREAT SONG YOU HAVE TO ADMIT
AND I'VE CONTRIBUTED BEFORE, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT I DID, BUT I HAVE

>>36825455
What about Fergus? Also, Agile?

>>36825881
Nah, he's the exception

>>36825881
>>36825943
Buledo is the agile one.

>>36825881
Fergus seems like Robust/Charming(Sensible?)

So what then, are we imposing one statline across all the hunters with modifications for what each one can do in specific? That seems more reasonable than giving each one exact powers/traits. Just change their equipment and stats.

>>36827153
Each hunter should have ONE different power and trait, though. Just to distinguish them further.

>>36827235
Well, someone needs to at least come up with the first one so we have a base.

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>>36827358
Oh, of course.

One thing I want to remind everyone: Buldeo isn't as smart as he thinks he is, and for all his bragging, things do not work in the jungle the way he says they do. He should have a noticeably low Travel skill compared to the rest of the hunters, only higher than Fergus's.

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Edited. She looks better wild-eyed, no? Decades of absolute power can drive one mad.

>>36828136
>decades

I'm 90% sure that the nations that have been here the longest are Atlantis at 20 years and then China under Shan Yu for an indeterminate really long amount of time. She's only been ruling for a decade, I'd say.

Spooky as fuck drawing, though. Nice work.

All this shitposting just made me want to say this is really great and you are all doing a good job.

>>36828296
>all this shitposting
Surprisingly, there hasn't been any this thread.

>the latest thread has a -2 ranking on sup/tg/
For real, why?
Are people actually retarded enough to believe these are quest/builder threads?
Is the /a/ slash /d/ menace real and downvoting these because they hate any continuous threads interfering with their blatant fetishshit and generic, terrible /a/ cardboard-cutout anime waifu quest #2401?
Is the general /tg/ community really so jaded and spiteful that they're downvoting homebrews in favor of 'excuse me' threads and infinite shitposting?
I'm thinking that it's just the same three or so no-life trolls that have been spamming anything they can to derail the threads and those two or so super pissy retards that had their godawful ideas rejected far back, but I'm not sure.
Anyway, can someone stat the kings for christ's sake?

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>>36829501
All options are bad.

Okay, so it turns out there's a lot more DTP that needs writing than I was expecting. I am going to finish it tonight and post it tomorrow morning, unless you'd prefer for me to post it at two in the morning.

>>36830041
Fuck it, post it the second you finish. Why not?

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So, here's a topic that I don't know if it's been brought up before. Gargoyles. Obviously, since it's not a modern era setting, the Manhattan clan will still be frozen in stone, but this would be the prime time for Demona, the Hunter, and the three weird sisters to be out dicking around.

>>36830075
Current plan is that Gargoyles is the modern splat.

>>36830075
Usually thought of as 'modern' settings, mate. We're probably gonna go about adding them, but not in the core.

bump whilst waiting for the piece about Rourke to be finished

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Could The Beast be a powerful Fae in the service of Maleficent

For reference this is what happens when he players guess his true Name

>>36830892
>the beast
Literally fucking who

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>>36830899
He's from the 10-part miniseries Over the Garden Wall, it aired on cartoon network, Not sure how much help that is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUp2sAWreQ

>>36830075
If they're used for the "modern" setting, then it brings far more to the table than just those three. Even if it was tossed into the standard setting, it would still open the door for Oberon, Titania, Puck, and any number of the fey children of Oberon. Bring it up to modern and you have The Pack, Stonemasons, Coldsteel/Iago, Thailog and the clones, Fang, The Illuminati and the list goes on. Take the supplementary material from Greg Weissman into account and you can also include a large force of planet-conquering aliens to the mix.

>>36830968
>A tv show
>Without any direct inspiration from Disney
>By a non-Disney company
>That's doesn't even have a single tie to Disney anywhere down the line

Actually what are you smoking

>>36831032
one: I don't smoke
and two: someone already made a KLR for this guy a few threads back

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>>36830075
Gargoyles has always been a hard one, because whilst the show is in a modern setting, some of the villains were actually from the medieval period.

But since Charles Muntz is in (unless this is him in his prime, which it sadly cant be, because weve already made him senior) modern setts are awkward.
(Note: this is only regarding the splatbook/expansion, but making it sound like a meanwhile case)
i think its safe to say that modern america got decimated by old america during the yensid vs cherno calamity, and that modern refugees are scattered across the world, forced into culture shock. the few lucky (and rich) ones ended up in alantis or the hunters club (David Xanatos and Charles Muntz)
meanwhile the many unlucky have been caught and killed by the seas many dangers, put into slavery or killed if they reached shore. you can tell a "modern" by the strange nonsencial words they speak whenever they remember their home.

adding this splatbook means adding another 'bell' to this world, a strange one powred by magic known as "digital", in order to ring it you need to rescue at least 1000 modern and bring them safely to here, wherever "here" is.
sadly it is guarded by an infamous security network (tron anyone?) and a gigantic metallic golem filled only with hate (tis a sad day for the iron giant)

the medieval villains from gargoyles might have ended up in maleficients kingdom, probably as inner circle level commanders of the fae. though only recognized if you use the splatbook.

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>>36831549
now people are going to ask "what about the tanks and nukes etcetc, surely radcliffe would have them"

the answer to that , is that before the old america collided with new america, new america was already under attack by, the iron giant.

the iron giant, forever thinking that garth was dead, became the being it was built to be. A destroyer. New America launched everything, tanks, bombers, battleships, armies you name it. it could not stop it. so they tried one last effort. by utilizing the same plan the now late lieutenant had used, they lured him into the sea and launched every nuke they had at it.
Whilst that part of the sea is forever too toxic and radiated to host life, The Giant still lived.

what Old america saw and conquered was not a thriving modern land, but an already destroyed one. futher fueling Radcliffe the 1sts motive of rebuilding this great america (freedom intensifies)

Radcliffe the 3rd recieved a note from the will of his father who had recieved the same from his.

"do not disturb the giant"

the giant, now resides in an coastal area featuring an abandoned arcade, with new VR technology at the time. its the only thing left that can remind him of Garth, so it forever grieves there.
in the same way as some villains are impossible to truly defeat socially, with this splatbook villain you have to.

once defeated, the heroes can enter the vr arcade, having to fight the monstrous Glitches and securitys known as Turbo and MCM. who have fought each other for seemingly forever. the cyberland is a chaotic realm filled with the most disturbing viruses on one side, and the bleakest killer security on the other. the heroes have to defeat both in order to get to this digitized bell, which will finally save the modern animated films as well.

>>36831549
we can't really include the iron giant in this as if we did there wouldn't be a planet left

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>>36830051
Alright, as you like anon.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ONQ38zlRwgmM90MMkENcmSZhsIhN4r1O0KqxdQn3GKs/edit

NB: there will be more DTP

>>36831904
Since you've got a doc all of your own, do you want the DTP stuff separate from the rest of the fluff?

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>>36831898
exactly
assuming he would continue on his rampage he would destroy country after country

but if the modern splatbook still has the older films, then where is modern france, russia, britain and so on.
the answer to that would be the iron giant destroyed all modern civilizations just before all disney films collided. assuming theres no-one left, it had an outburst of grief and realization (after all Garth told him never to kill, and what has he done, killed everything)
the hidden point is that what sparks iron giant to kill is seeing someone die and start grieving about it, inevitably the grief would be too much for him to even attempt killing.

its complicated, but the way to explain what would happen to Iron Giant is that he goes through every stage of grief except acceptance, with the outcome of that being he destroys modern civilization, cries about it, and goes back to garths hometown to grieve and shutdown. then after that the part of the whole calamity where all the animated villains appear in the same world.

it would explain why theres no modern areas around if all the animated villains appear at roughly the same time just after they won.

TLDR - Fuck me , making both modern and nonmodern worldbuilding make sense is hard

>>36832374
Then don't. Gargoyles villains can still be medieval dudes who started moving in the modern age.

>>36831032
it'd certainly be viable for the non-Disney supplement we're going to do eventually

>>36831549
>>36831888
>>36832374
my assumption for the Modern and Future stuff is that for most of it, it's not full on states or countries, it's mostly individuals and small groups, with the occasional city being nabbed as well, so for example from Gargoyles it's pretty much just New York City that got nabbed, same with a lot of the other cities from various Disney TV shows(the single largest area grabbed from modern and/or future times is the Hawaiian Islands, at least on Earth, with the Axiom and it's sibling ships roaming the stars, and Emperor Zerg ruling over a vast interstellar empire and beginning to look towards Earth)

also for the Giant, I'd suggest having him be post movie actually, and have one possible mission being gathering his parts to bring him back to full strength to use against some of the stronger Villains

bump

Good morning everyone!

>>36833521
Morning? On my end it's 13:00, it is not morning, I'm also wondering where the Guy who was writing this>>36817564 went?

Plugging away at an interesting (well, at least I think he's interesting) Shadowlands villain, I was reminded of something from Princess and the Frog and it inspired a new power:

Why Do Those Logs Have Eyes?: Reroll Insight checks made to detect people in Stealth.

>>36827358
The hunters should each have a base Protect Harm of about, oh, 20, and an attack method of 18-20 each, due to them having specialized equipment that should bring it to 21-24.
This means that their attack methods are going to need stats of about 12, and should have base stats of 10 in all other attributes. As for skills, they should have roughly 8 in Prevent Harm/Endure and their attack method, and ~7 in Travel except for Buledo and Fergus, who should have sub-6 Travel.

After my last final today I'll try to come up with one for Gaston.

>>36833562

I'm still here and still writing. Real world issues came up. Hoping to have something more worth postit for later today.

I just saw this a bit ago and I was wondering what I could do to help.

>>36834298
If you're comfortable with the system, we have (8?) Kings that still need to be statted up. Or, each country other than BALD MOUNTAIN needs ~4 Villain concepts for subordinates to the Kings.

Failing that, a little fluff would be nice.

>>36834298
We've got a few kings left to stat, and we need villains by the boatload. Get acquainted with the mechanics and start getting creative with possible foes/

>>36834316
Maybe I'll try out creating some subordinates. Off the top of my head Razoul from Aladdin could be a subordinate of Jafar. As the captain of the guards he would probably be entrusted with some powerful magical equipment,

>>36834459
That sounds like a good place to start to me!

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Thought I just had: if Facilier's dealings with the Friends is what voodoo really is in this universe, then doesn't that mean that Mama Odie might have, or at least once had, NICE Friends On The Other Side? We established many threads ago that there do exist small time Friends who aren't pure evil and will gladly take things other than souls for payment, and the Friends are supposed to be analogues of the loa, which included powerful beneficent gods, so I don't think good big time Friends are out of the question.

I suppose that these nice Friends wouldn't give you things or change things often; they prefer to teach, to enlighten, to help you help yourself. I'd also suppose that they've already helped Odie far beyond the point where she needs any more of their help on a regular basis. If she makes offerings to them now, it's so that they'll gaze out into the world and perform a random act of kindness for someone who needs it. She's probably making many of those offerings, given the state of the world.

>>36834906
So an example of a beneficial friend would be Ulshavaras

>>36835036
Never read Dresden, but from the google description I'd agree.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we established long ago that all Friends are powerless to do anything in our world unless someone makes a deal with them. If anyone asks why the nice Friends don't just help people free of charge, that's the answer.

>>36835096
well beneficial friends only make deals that aren't gonna bite the person who makes them in the arse , Doctor Facilliers Friends ask for souls, Ulshavaras tribute was beer and Prince Albert in a Can

>>36834906
>>36835036
>>36835096
>>36835152

Given how powerful Facilier and his Friends are, I like the idea of allowing the PCs to contact some ACTUAL friends on the other side to balance things out a little bit. It strikes me that they could be handled in much the same way as some of /tg/'s "Small Gods" threads are, where they have few if any dedicated followers and they help people out through little shrines hidden away in the bayous, deserted houses, lonely ceneteries and New Orleans basements. Little shrines where you could leave a coin or two, a loaf of bread, a bottle of beer, a poem scrawled in a scrap of paper or something and receive a small boon.

>>36835355
I like it

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>292 posts
So, I'm putting the final touches on a villain right now. I should wait for the new thread to post him, shouldn't I?

>>36831904
>“Right,” she acquiesced, “but if someone notices you before we can get your friends out, it’ll cost us an arm and a leg.” She looked at Sverd expectantly. Sverd gave her a look.
“That was terrible, Hannah, even for you” Sverd said, deadpan.

I DUN GEDDIT
WHAT WAS THE PUN

>>36836035
Probably. We could accelerate the fall toward the bump limit though.

I thought I was better since yesterday but my winter cold came back pretty hard, so I'll be here for today while I can't do much other than shuffle around and maybe make some soup. I've sorted out my technical difficulties with 4chan but my head is pounding too hard to think seriously enough about songwriting, so I might make an attempt at crunching something to be useful, since there seems like a serious lack of it recently.

>>36836133
True. Then let me say that the Villain is the 30ft alligator....and I can guarantee you, he is not what you expect him to be. He's one of those enemies where the PCs are going to metagame like fuck if they read his statline.

>>36836242
Just to know, is it gonna be a smaller version of this thing?

http://kaijucombat,com/wiki/doku.php?id=ckc_monster_list:grimmgarl

>>36836268
Oh, not even close, you're thinking in the wrong direction entirely.
>building up hype

>>36832071
Nah, it's easier for me to edit this way. Besides, it's too long to comfortably fit in the fanfic doc

Has this thread been archived yet?

>>36836302
Is it that alligator from All Dogs Go to Heaven?

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So I found a thing in another thread the other day

Thread has not web archived yet. Would someone please do so?

>>36836711
Gimme a second.

>>36836754
Thank you kindly.

>>36836635
You're getting warmer.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36779657/

Thread archived, remember to vote etc.

>>36836848
Voted! Thank you very much! Are there any changed to the OP before we start a new thread?

>>36837022
Could add a temporary link for the new DTP at the bottom.
>>36831904

Someone needs to start a new thread. I can try to do this now.

>>36837682
You might as well. Could you do me a favor and use something with Facilier in it for the OP pic?

>>36837682

NEW THREAD HERE:

>>36837736

>>36837745

Damn it, sorry! I was reading through the latest DTP and used Slim before I saw your post! Sorry about that!