>>36204386
fuck yea PLOT

>>36204386
Waitin' on that next post man. Let's do this thing.

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>>36205070
ah, i was waiting for people to show up.
Alright, since its just you guys I feel it would be bad to advance anything too important so maybe cute everyday stuff?

Want to continue the beach trip, or want to go back and do something else? we still need to teach Mako to swim

>>36205291
its all good

>>36205291
Teach Mako how to swim, continue the beach episode.

>>36205291
sure, o can we work on fireworks too?

>>36205323
this then.

>>36205329
expand into matches and flares ?

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>>36205329
Sounds good to me. We could assume we did it during the 1 month timeskip so we can have fireworks on the last night?

***

Well, the lady was really nice, and she gave off a somewhat modern feel, didin't she? like, it wouldn't really amaze us all that much if next time she's wearing hipster glasses or playing with a gameboy, but at the same time, she seems really nice and sweet.

The mermen are really happy. As a token of their gratitude for allowing them to meet their goddess, their king gives us a trident.

Should we say "as expected"? It's the kind of thing that seems to fit too well... well, it's not actually a weapon... well, it is of course a trident, but it's more of a staff. Its enchanted so it amplifies the water affinity of its user.

[Legendary][Triton's Staff][6/5 empty slots]
This wonderful magic staff greatly enhances the power of water magic.
Bonus: Water spells receive a bonus to damage or attack equal to the user's Wisdom bonus. This bonus can be changed as a free action every 8 hours.
Enhancements: [Ghost Card] +10 MP Drain per spell
Enchantments: [Arcane Might] +2 damage per MP spent on [Water] spells

Triton's staff... should we make a comment about how clichéd that sounds... maybe not.

Well, now that the feast is over, the area is full of tiny fish nibbling at the leftovers.

And it looks like there are plenty of activities we could do, still.

For starters, Honoria wants to try making a sand castle. And Mako wants to learn to swim. And Okaba wants to borrow our amulet to try swimming underwater

1/?

I'm here, too.

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>>36205690

Well, we can the amulet to Okaba for a bit without much trouble, but let's leave it for tomorrow so Mako can try it on for now.

It's much easier to teach someone to swim when that someone can't drown.

So, we place it on Mako's neck, and help her in the classical manner, by gently pulling her by the hands as she kicks water behind her. The basics are important, just getting her used to the wate... the hell is that, Aura is swimming on her back at full speed withing even using her arms or le... ah, right, shes using her leathery wings underwater, right.

...

Those things float? those two large round blue shiny things arent finflatable loaters right? there shouldn't be such things in thi-- oh, that's what they are. Alright... let's go back to our little princess, now.

Ah, she's frowning. She looks cute when she frowns at us, but she's also angry, isin't she?

"Eldric, y-you meanie" ~she tries to hide her face in the water, but the air bubble prevents it.

Well, she seems to forgive us soon enough, so we can keep going around. She seems to be used to the water now.

For now, let's teach her the doggy swim. It's the easiest way, right?

A few of the waves wash over us, but the amulet keeps the bubble in place so her face doesn't even gets wet.

Maybe it's a bad idea to teach her with the amulet? she may get used to it.

* Let's teach her without it
* It's okay, we can make her one later
* Other

>>36205690
give Okaba the amulet, as we teach Mako

then every one helps to build the sand castle?
that wall spell trick should help lets try and summon a sand/water wall

>>36205690

* Let's teach her without it

>>36205877

* Let's teach her without it

>>36205877
>* Let's teach her without it

>>36205877
Teach her without it, she must not rely on a crutch. Besides, knowing how to swim might save her ass down the line. Girl's got people very keen on kidnapping her. If you can swim and kidnappers can't, you get away.

>>36205690
>6/5 empty slots
what?

>>36206188
we can add another card we should pop in a ghost one

and since I think OP said monkey grip works on staffs we should use it its pretty great we can use it and our sword

>>36205877
>* Let's teach her without it
give amulet to okaba

>>36206230
No, 6 out of 5 empty slots
how do you have 6 empty slots out of 5 slots total

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>>36206188
it has 6 slots, 5 of which are empty since it already has a ghost card

>>36206017
>>36205962
>>36205961
>>36205935

Well, let's teach her how to float first. If she knows how to float by keeping still, she won't be scared of sinking.

We spend the evening teaching the little princess to swim.

She won't win any gold medals, but, of course, her stats are high enough that she learns anything quickly.

After a while, we notice that Ami and Mai are missing. Well, originally, their job was to watch over Mako from the shadows, but where would those two hide in an open beach?

Don't tell me...? underwater?

We check under the water, and sure enough, there they are... how long can they hold their breath? Well.. how long can WE hold our breath, with our constitution score being what it is, come think about it?

All the same, let's go play in the sand with Honoria.

Ah, we make a rather bug castle for Honoria and Mako. It's so big, the petite princesses can walk in and out of it. Well, with enough time, we could make it much bigger, and maybe even permanent, but wouldnt that be littering?

Well, either way, the sand castle becomes a safe spot to lit our fireworks in. It's something we have been working on for a while, but all the same, it's better to lit them in the castle, surrounded by the sandwalls.

"Aaah"
"Ooooh"

The fireworks blossom high up in the sky.

Right now it's just explosions. I mean, c´mon, adding pretty colors and shapes it's a bit more than what we could do right now. but it's still a fun, fresh show.

>>36206330
>it has 6 slots, 5 of which are empty since it already has a ghost card
this must be a culture thing
in the USA you would write that is 5/6 which is read aloud as "Five out of six" where as "6/5" would be read as "Six out of five".
that being said, no need to change it, now that you explained it, we can just do things your way

>>36206455
That and fractions

>>36206330
what we cant add a tiny bit of copper flakes? to make some green ones?

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>>36206455
yes, ive always wondered why you write "exit for emergencies" as "emergency exit", come think about it.

I remember reading an article about how language shapes perception. There are languages without a "before" and "after". Show a vietnamese two photos, one where a man holds a balloon and one where the man let go of the balloon, and he can only describe it as "man balloon" IIRC

that article also mentioned how english is slightly more pessimist than other languages.

For example, if two kids are sitting on a bed and it breaks, when the noise causes their mom to asl what happened, they would blame eachother and say "X broke the bed!" while in spanish it would be "the bed broke"

anyway

>>36206330
That night, the girls are all wearing cuddly, fluffy-looking robes. Even Stella seems happy with hers.

Uncle Wolfric is wearing a cheap pair of pants and a long black robe, while we convinced Alard and Okaba to stick with a dry set of swimming trunks.

Ah, it's time for campfire stories.

Of course, with magic on our side to help us enlarge shadows and project ominous shadows, we take the chance to tell them The Lord of the Rings, as best we could remember it.

"Oh please, a dwarven king would have had any such gift examined first, you know?" ~says Honoria

"Ah, please go with it, it's called suspension of disbelief"

Well, next time, maybe we'll tell them about starwars. Come think of it, could we make an actual light saber on this world?

That feels like something to look forward to. I feel like going "swoosh" while wielding it, even if it didin't made a sound by itself

>>36206696
True, this is why loan words became a thing. You don't have a word for it, but that foreigner does. You just use his word for it. Happens all the time, though only really noticeable by those with a very large vocabulary and good knowledge about other languages (at least enough to know what they sound like, to detect potential ones).

As for it being more pessimist. Look where it came from. Brits like satire and sarcasm, as do most Americans. This would show by being keen to make pessimistic remarks about things.

Wait, what? I thought you weren't doing an extra this week.

>>36205690
Does that bonus work on hybrid spells that have a water component?

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>>36206696

"Uhmm.. Master, your wings feel really nice, warm and fluffy" ~cooes Stella as she snuggles up to the prince
"Yes, yes. You can enjoy it all you want to"

Once the story and the kebabs are all gone, we make it back to the inn in town.

Uncle makes sure all the girls make it back to their rooms before going to bed for the night.

"Elric, don't stay up too late" ~he says while peeking into our room.~ "You too, Alard, you're older by 2 years, so be a good example, alright?"
"Yes, father"

That night, we are laying down, looking out the window when we notice noise outside. It is quite late, almost late enough to count as the early morning, so naturally felt like taking a look.

A group of about a dozen people are walking their horses to the side of the inn. It is when they start climbing the wall towards Mako's window that we actually worry about them, of course.

***
>>36206885
I said i would do something short to make up for how long it took us to get started on friday
>>36206999
i imagine it would need for the water part to be 50% or more of the spell?
***

*Wake up Okaba and Alard and head over to the girl's room
*Leap out of the window and start attacking them
*Other

>>36207106
>*Other
Leap out of the window and say something like 'you have 5 seconds to explain why you're climbing that wall'.

If no explanation, then we attack them. Make sure all our jobs are on, especially cadenero.

>>36206696
some times I see it as "exit in case of emergency"


>>36207106
send a summon to wake him up can they talk/deliver messages?

if not jump out the window and start making noise by kicking there asses

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>>36207106
>*Wake up Okaba and Alard and head over to the girl's room
Oh hell no.They fucked up time to fuck them all up boys!

>>36207106
>*Wake up Okaba and Alard and head over to the girl's room
sound the alarms

i have to point something out we are on season 91 in the title

>>36207106
Your response to people posting good days to do the extra in
http://archive.moe/tg/thread/36159618/#36169863
made it seem like you weren't doing it because schedules didn't match.

>>36207161
>>36207106
defiantly turn on all jobs,
and give them a chance
but what ever we do make a lot of noise so we wake up every one also try and grab our sword/shield on our way out
i assume we sleep with our rings on

(the first night we don't wake up with a girl on us is the first night we need one)

>>36207262
We hit signficantly harder without any weapons or armor.

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>>36207106
>Wake up Okaba and Alard and head over to the girl's room

It happens so often it's almost comical. But we won't allow it, there will be no kidnapping. On the bright side, they no longer have to worry about where there god is. Because he's on his way, and he's fresh out of mercy.

>>36207106
This seems good
>>36207161

>>36207283
yea but no one takes a 10 year old unarmed kid as a threat (until we dragon force there face in)
or punch through there Armour

>>36207354
Nah, no dragon force. Without the sword, mp regen is a pain. Use normal hybrid spells and cast from hp. If they're all clustered up that'll make for something like 6000x4 damage.

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>>36207161
>>36207168
>>36207330
>Leap out of the window and say something like 'you have 5 seconds to explain why you're climbing that wall'.
>>36207200
>>36207312
>>36207175
>Wake up Okaba and Alard and head over to the girl's room
>>36207230
time flies when you are having fun

>>36207354
your post...
god damnit, sorry man but ive been waiting years to use this image and it still isint quite the right time, but it is related

>>36207262
you hadnt gone to sleep yet

CRASH
Oh boy, leaping through windows look a lot easier on tv. Good thing we have a lot of HP
Still, that did make a lot of noise

As we land before them, the horses run out scared, while they stare at us.

"You had better noticed fire coming out of the window, and be climbing to save anyone inside... well, I see no fire, so what do you think you're doing?!"
"What the... who's this kid!?"
"Check out his level"
"...we can still take him, go!"

Of course, they can only see one of our jobs, and our class level

Alard lands before us, on one of their horses, and it takes off into the night. Our cousin manages to hop off.

Landing on a horse it's so old school... he did it by accident, but let's add it to the list of things to do.

"Uhmph" ~Okaba doesnt has enough room to fly down with his wings spread, so he just leans out of the window. Still, it's not a bad idea to keep his height advantage, really.

Now... if you ask who won in a fight between a group of mooks and us. Of course it was us.

1/?

>>36207515
Wait! After you kill them, make sure to preserve their bodies!

Then we can rez them one at a time and get info.

>>36207538
This! We need glorious information. Who sent them, how much were they being paid, that sort of thing.

>>36207619
Who knew necromancer would be useful this quickly?

>>36207538
great plan
and if we can't for all at leas get the one who said
"...we can still take him, go!" cause I want to see the look on his face

>>36207619
but its obvious who sent them the empire that got their ass's handed to them

>>36207656
Get the info quick enough and you could find contacts or other agents, crippling their covert operations in the city.

>>36207670
fair enough

>>36207656
Yeah, but there's an operational level to this. Other spies and shit that found her and sent them. We need them gone or else these kidnappings will keep happening with distressing regularity. Mako deserves a few nights that are free from worrying about where she'll wake up.

>>36207670
or at least there get away equipment/contacts last time we got some nice rides

>>36207106
>"Uhmm.. Master, your wings feel really nice, warm and fluffy" ~cooes Stella as she snuggles up to the prince
stella is snuggling up to a winged prince and calls him master?

>>36207763
i think he meant Aura

>>36207538
this, this right there is glorious!
we already confirmed corpses get preserved in item boxes, and we have an item box!
kill them, put them in box. then later remove them from box one by one.

actually, we can save on scrolls if we get someone who has a res spell to use mp to raise them instead.

... don't we actually have it already as a class ability?

>>36207827
We have 3 different rez spells, though only 2 are applicable at the moment. And i meant preserve them with the necromancer ability we just picked up.

We'd probably use the monk rez since it gives them only 1 hp.

>>36207709
this
besides, even if its "obvious" who sent them, its better politically to actually have living them and confessions.
Or if we make it public they were caught and are being interrogated someone might try to kill them before they can talk and in turn get caught as well.

>>36207863
>And i meant preserve them with the necromancer ability we just picked up.
I know, I am saying its better to use our item box to preserve them instead. A body that is stashed in one does not have its turn counter go down. that is, if you put it in the box with a death counter of 3, it will come out of it with a death counter of 3 a month later later when you pull it out.

>>36207908
That's another way of doing it, sure, but it's not 'better'. The necromancer spell stops their countdown completely, whether in an item box or not.

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http://youtu.be/bjBmT8y9PAU
This series is amazingly funny

>>36207763
Im getting dumber as well as blinder, i guess

>>36207538
uhmm necromancer has pretty nice uses, I guess

>>36207515
Well, this time, we got all of them. Sort of.
With their bodies preserved and frozen in time, we give them up to the authorities.

In this case, uncle Wolfric is staying behind to supervise their questioning.

Well, it's not as if they would have done much even if they had gotten to the girl's room, either,

Still, it did get us cookie points with Ami and Mai

Mako is clinging to us the next day. Well, she may be the strongest 9 years old cutesy princess in the world, but she's still a 9 years olf cutesy princess.

"Eldric, thank you" ~she says as she blings from our sleeve
"Don't worry Mako. I'm sure you could have beat them, anyway"

Come think about it... when its her birthday? we don't know if her culture celebrates the 5th, 10th and 15th birthdays as anything special, or if it celebrates every birthday, or none.

Well, asking Mai about it, it turns out its in two months, so, a little after we return to Albion, right?

Maybe we should prepare her a party while we are in Eopolis? surely we could prepare her a much better party that way.

As for the would-be kidnappers, they were sent by the Alquian Vizier, in a shocking twist that surprised absolutely no one.

"What is surprising is that he could orchestate something like this so soon after the end of the war. I thought he would be busy with his own civil war" ~says Alard
2/?

pic totally unrelated, just felt like using it

>>36208046
>Still, it did get us cookie points with Ami and Mai

Brownie points.

>>36208046
I'm thinking we need to keep mako as our default 2nd member like we did for lyann for a long while when we go into dungeons.

>>36208046
i am thinking we need to go there and kick his ass

>>36208046
how was it surprising ? there civil war is portable more political /cold.Its not like our side actually hurt there ability to produce equipment/food, there most likely just as strong as during the war but are to worried about them selves to bother waring with us.

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>>36208154
>Brownie points
must be nice to be a 1st worlder, uh? we poorfags have to be happy about them cookies

>>36208046
"Clearly, we need to know the situation in Alquia, Can we ask your uncle about any information those men had?" ~says Honoria
"I doubt they know anything about polotics, but maybe we can find about their boss, and then that person's boss, and so on?"

Indeed, asking your uncle later, this is what he found out.

The Vizier has suffocated most of the uprisings, except for those in the far north east of the empire, as that region is mostly desert, and fighting for it would probably be more trouble than it is worth. The nomad tribes there are claiming independence, and with no strategic resources to defend, nor even any cities, the vizier pretty much told them to do whatever, and now the tribes are busily fighting each other.

Still, despite the loss of lives they took during the final days of the war, their infraestructure took very little damage. In fact, the civil war did more than the Coalition did to curb the Empire's military machinery.

That's not to say we did nothing, either. The Eopolitan nacy sank several dozen warships and cargo vessels, so the empire is having plenty of trouble patrolling their waters, and piracy is rampant over there.

At the same time, the routes over the sands are also taking hits from nomads and bandits, so even trade between landbound cities has become a shadow of its former self.

**
Do you want to
* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
* Look into the sbastian spy network in eopolis
* Suggest a cold war. Perhaps the Coalition could go corsair on the empire's ass?
* Other

>>36208408
>* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis

This seems the most pressing thing.

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>>36208408

>* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
>* Suggest a cold war. Perhaps the Coalition could go corsair on the empire's ass?

That's a nice booming piracy problem you have there. Be a shame if you were completely unable to tell we paid them all off to rob you and you exclusively.

>>36208408
>* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
good damn it lost my WH40K files just when a purge every thing pic would be great

>>36208408
>* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
>* Look into the sbastian spy network in eopolis
both are good but perhaps we should start a spy network for our self.

>>36208408
>* Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
Considering floatstone ships and a rising number of seriously powerful individuals, keeping them in the dark longer would be a god thing.

>>36208408
>* Suggest a cold war. Perhaps the Coalition could go corsair on the empire's ass?
We russia now boys!

>>36208478
Wouldn't the pirates do that anyway? I mean, skyships make water piracy a very dangerous business to begin with, and the empire's navy has been shot to hell.

Pirates go where loot is easy to get.

>>36208235
That's a major political action. You're basically talking about the assassination of someone in high political office. We can't do much of anything against him directly until a move against us has been made by him personally. Emphasis on personally, for reasons I will explain.

Even if you fingered him with a confession he could claim some lackey acting independent of him was doing this dropping his name and that he'd never do such a thing, then jails or executes the lackey to make it all look legit.

Politicians are crafty like that, always hiding behind a few sacrificial lambs if their plans go south. Then never want to own up to their fuck ups, and take the appropriate measures.

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>>36208408
>Look into the alquian spy network in eopolis
>Look into the sbastian spy network in eopolis

I am angry, angry about spies.

>>36208484
Here's one.

>>36208408
>The Vizier has suffocated most of the uprisings, except for those in the far north east of the empire, as that region is mostly desert, and fighting for it would probably be more trouble than it is worth. The nomad tribes there are claiming independence, and with no strategic resources to defend, nor even any cities, the vizier pretty much told them to do whatever, and now the tribes are busily fighting each other.
wow... that is a perfect opportunity for us to unite them into their own new nation. And then take on the visir from there...
of course, that means missing wizard school and paladin school next year. ugh, choices!

>>36208552
>willingly sticking your hand into the buzzsaw of tribal warfare

not even once

>>36208408
can you repost the map?

>>36208550
i love so much for that thank you

>>36204386
Did I miss a thread or something, or did we skip over all the new unlocked secret jobs for now?

>>36208634
Most of them. Got a few last thread.

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>>36208513
from time to time, my eyes make me smile
I read that as "booty is easy to get"

>>36208569
I was gonna comment on that

>>36208574
I spent like 10 minutes looking for it, i cant find it. Weird I could only find this version

>>36208634
we decided to take a look at them on the side of things.

I really cant find the map. Annoyed about it

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>>36208880
its i the folder for OTHER thread, for some reason

anyway, look into the Alquian spies, right?
****

"Absolutely not" ~says uncle wolfric
"Wh- why not?! we're more than strong enough to take care of ourselves!"
"Probably, but you understand that we are talking about a world full of backstabbing, criminals, murderers and worse? I am not going to let a group of children set foot into that world! besides, you are all easily recognizable, how do you plan on infiltrating anything, anyway?"

*Well, we could use disguises! I've been told (by dwarves) that I make a pretty good hobbit!"
*I wasnt planning on doing this all smooth and sophisticated-like, I was planning on punching people until they talked!"
* Other

>>36208960
>*Well, we could use disguises! I've been told (by dwarves) that I make a pretty good hobbit!"

Oh how different lord of the rings would've been if we were frodo.

>>36208960
>*Well, we could use disguises! I've been told (by dwarves) that I make a pretty good hobbit!"

It's not like punching is off the table, here.

>>36208960
>*Well, we could use disguises! I've been told (by dwarves) that I make a pretty good hobbit!"
we must go full bond

>>36208960
>*I wasnt planning on doing this all smooth and sophisticated-like, I was planning on punching people until they talked!"
He does have a point. Pretty much the entire party is supernaturally beautiful at this point.

>>36208960
>* Other
Shouldn't we have super-senses from our stats? We could be the magical NSA.

Also, we definitely unlocked fedaykin and champion from that last xp infusion, regardless of anything else. The only thing we know of that can even hurt us anymore is grandpa.

>>36208960

*I wasnt planning on doing this all smooth and sophisticated-like, I was planning on punching people until they talked!"

>>36208960
>*I wasnt planning on doing this all smooth and sophisticated-like, I was planning on punching people until they talked!"

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>>36208982
>>36209019
>>36209028

>Well, we could use disguises! I've been told (by dwarves) that I make a pretty good hobbit!"
>>36209042
>>36209147
>>36209206

>punching people until they talked!"

>>36209104
>Shouldn't we have super-senses from our stats? We could be the magical NSA
and the voltronite pope

***
"No. I understand you wanting to help, but I am not letting my nephew, my son, or any of your friends jus- actually, I guess they WOULD indeed do their best to avoid you. You may not find anything, but at least you'll convince them that you are a lot of trouble, and to stay away"
"You really don't think I could infiltrate a spy group?"
"Nephew, you ~are~ quite easy to recognize. And these aren't dwarves, you know?"
"Well, then there's no problem, is there?"
"It is a quality to want to protect your friends, but don't you think you can do that better by staying with them?"
"I can't be with her all day, every day"
"Her? ah... you really like the princess, don't you?" ~our uncle sighs~ "Well, I don't think anyone could stop one of us when love is in the line, but do you think you could take Euphrosyne with you? I would feel better knowing she is looking after you"

*Deal
*"Oh, c'mon, as if somebody wouldnt know HER" ~she does have dem wings and dat ass
*Agree, but leave Euphrosyne in a vigilance mode so she runs in if things get ugly, only!
*Other

Lots of choices today

>>36209300
>*Agree, but leave Euphrosyne in a vigilance mode so she runs in if things get ugly, only!

We need to try fashioning a disguise for ourselves. We have the dex to do it.

>>36209300
>*Agree, but leave Euphrosyne in a vigilance mode so she runs in if things get ugly, only!
she should be eyes in the sky

>>36209364
Were going with James bond as code name right?

>>36208960
ok, for eupolis I see 3 places to potentially expand do. there is a wierd little dimple at the top, near sbastia, of unclaimed land.
There is a bit of land to the south, near yellowleaves. and then there is a huge swath of territory to the east.

What is in those 3 specific locations immediately out of their borders?
I am asking because I remember you saying that some is unsettled lands, while others is nations too small to matter.

>>36209300
>*Agree, but leave Euphrosyne in a vigilance mode so she runs in if things get ugly, only!
We really will have no chance at infiltrating with an angel along.

>>36209300
>*"Oh, c'mon, as if somebody wouldnt know HER" ~she does have dem wings and dat ass

>>36209390
uhmm... if we are taking any of the girls, are we giving them bond-like names?

I still chuckle whenever I think of Pussy Galore or Honey Rider, Zora (one r away from meaning zorra, or slut in spanish), Kissy Suzuki, and Plenty O'Toole

We could exploit english as a generic "foreign language" with impunity. "Fire Crotch" suddenly becomes a valid spygirl name. "Sweet Tits", and such.

>>36209300
I am actually willing to concede the point to him here. and back off of that idea.

maybe instead work with him in the sense of having his men do the infiltration, while we hide nearby to rescue them in case of violence.

>>36209474
Xenia Onatopp
Holly Goodhead
Octopussy

there really is no end to the names they could go with

>>36209535
Don't forget Chew Mee

>>36209433
>dimple at the top, near sbastia, of unclaimed land.
thats a necromantically twisted deadman's land known as The Wastes, tho

The land to the east is not unclaimed, its just unclaimed by the larger "powers". Thats mostly tiny city states, tribal lands, and such.

that being said, the area between Bastion, Black Lake and the Empire IS unclaimed and could be settled. Note that that's right next to where the Vizier said "fuck it" and left the tribes do whatever they wanted.

No valuable resources in the area, at least not with the current times mentality. There's huge ponds of this greasy, filthy black stuff that keeps bubbling up, fucking everything. It also tends to catch on fire pretty easily and then it takes forever to put it out.

The region between eopolis and yellowleaves, to the coast, to the south? that's called "Sanc". It's a wretched hive of scum and villany that its pretty much pirate heaven.

Nah im kidding, the area IS called Sanc, and all that there is is a ghost city near the coast. It used to be an empire trading post, millenia ago when the empire stretched all the way north to sbastia. The gold mines ran dry, and then the norhtern nations split from the empire, and the city couldnt make it

it's considered worthless. The land is tough and its mostly hills, so its hard to have farms. This world doesnt has the concept of terrace farms

>>36209581
lol i dont think i saw that one

I lost track, which option won? taking euphry but keeping her in surveillance, right?

>>36209793
>thats a necromantically twisted deadman's land known as The Wastes, tho
that is actually good
No moral issues
there are no native to conquer. just a magical problem in need of a solution, and if we solve it than our people can expand there.

>>36209793
I thought this world didn't really have the concept of farms period. they use Food dungeons instead.

>>36209793
>it's considered worthless. The land is tough and its mostly hills, so its hard to have farms. This world doesnt has the concept of terrace farms
I thought the world doesn't have a concept of farms and gets all its food from foodgeons./

>>36209793
>I lost track, which option won? taking euphry but keeping her in surveillance, right?

>*Agree, but leave Euphrosyne in a vigilance mode so she runs in if things get ugly, only!

had 3 votes, so it seems to have won

>>36209793
are we at least going to actually craft believable disguises?
like, wigs. makeup, etc.

>>36209840
we have already discussed that farmers are buff as fuck
Also, farms exist, but arent very efficient because you pull a carrot and sometimes you get a carrot (which wasnt even the same carrot, its a carrot drop) and sometimes you get some copper coins. But there are some exceptions, like most fruits.

You pick an apple, you get an apple.

>>36209864
alright

But we should stop for today with the plot, probably? dont want to advance much before the next thread. I already feel super guilty about cutting the beach for those who couldnt make it this thread.

Remember we'll do a little more on tuesday, too. For now let's go back to jobs. Or we could discuss settling, too. Should I make a purely continental map, maybe? instead of our corner of the planet, just our continent, I mean

>>36210029
So the way to turbocharge farming would be to teach singer and herbalist to all the farmers?

>>36210029
oh, so there are a bunch of low pop rural areas with farms spread throughout the land. feeding villages.
While cities, instead of depending on massive farmlands, depend on foodgeons instead?

that is actually rather nice. I was worrying that the pop lives entirely in hyper dense cities.

>>36210107
alright i get herbalist, sounds good, but why singer?

>>36210174
right, pop can get only so big on farm food. If they want to grow up larger, they HAVE TO hire some devadasi to make them a foodgeon and thats not the kind of money a little town can easily make, AND its the kind of money that attracts bandits

>>36210255
>why singer
Herbalist's passive is keyed off Cha bonus, and the singer line has the highest Cha boost of all the jobs. So if you had singer 20/healer 20/herbalist 1, you'd have +142 cha, so every plant drop would give an additional 14 items.

>>36210318
that would mean making our efficient leveling this completely public though, known to every farmer in the land.

>>36210350
Efficient leveling will be known to the public at some point regardless of what we do. All it takes is one guy overleveling a job before switching to a hybrid and then noticing he is significantly stronger than all his peers.

I have very little doubt that evil vampire dad knows that job levels give stat bonuses, even if he doesn't know the exact amounts like we do. His experiments almost guarantee that knowledge.

>>36210318
uhmm... so you want to teach nobles how to farm, or teach farmers how to sing? I could see it working either way, you know

It would be fun to see nbles being nobles by virtue of their divine right as the guys that feed everyone else

>>36210350
also, this

And would you prefer the new map to be political or physical (including rivers and mountains and such) or resource-based?

>>36210469
Physical map.

More villagers than nobles, so if you were going full green revolution it'd make more sense to teach them singing.

>>36210545
You could have the nobles work towards healer 20/herbalist 20/botanist 1/singer 20/diva 20 and have them be your specialists foodgeon producers.

>>36210469
political > resource > physical

>>36210579
er, idol 20.

>>36210579
>>36210545
this is an insanely bad idea. because it means making public the multiclassing trick.

>>36210616
see >>36210427

>>36210642
>>36210427
>Efficient leveling will be known to the public at some point regardless of what we do. All it takes is one guy overleveling a job before switching to a hybrid and then noticing he is significantly stronger than all his peers.
1. this is shit justification to releasing it to the public now. It might take 100 years for it to happen. don't make it happen sooner.
2. Most people will keep such a thing a secret due to selfishness.


incidentally, if this is abused by some badguys to raise an army. I can see using the debug tool to fix it.

>>36210756
So you want to live like a tinpot dictator when even basic knowledge like herbalists make the best farmers would vastly improve the lives of everyone alive.

Ok. You're an asshole, and I'll vote against any suggestions that follow your line of reasoning, but you're free to continue being an asshole.

>>36210823
>So you want to live like a tinpot dictator
>Hurr strawmen
fuck you, asshole.

>when even basic knowledge like herbalists
Literally nobody is talking about herbalist training.
We are talking about multiclassing to pump up your attributes. They can be herbalists without doing the multiclass attribute pump trick. It just wont be as awesome.

>Vastly improve the lives
it would create an insurmountable power gap between nobility and commoners. and turn the world into a much darker place.
This is the same reason we did not introduce bleach. sure it has positive uses, but it also has horrific ones, and overall the damage will exceed the good in the current world order.

>>36210967
You are the epitome of fuck you, i've got mine. You are an asshole.

>>36210990
>>This knowledge will be horrifically abused by the nobility to keep down the peasants
>Durr, you are the epitome of selfishness and wanting to keep down the peasants
does it hurt to be this much of a retard?
must you really demonize people who tell you how much a retard you are because you wish they could be evil instead of you just being retarded?

>>36211061
>Retarded justifications that stand up to 0 scrutiny in order to maintain a personally beneficial power disparity
>I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE
You even more of an asshole than initially demonstrated.

>>36211115
I kinda wish you would shut up.

>>36211115
>Retarded justifications that stand up to 0 scrutiny in order to maintain a personally beneficial power disparity
no
>What granpda, okaba, the high priest of voltron, and many others have all told us
Also, basic fucking logic
There is currently about 40-50 level gap between average noble and farmer. Not insurmountable with sufficient numbers due to inefficient leveling.
If everyone was leveling efficiently, than that massively tilts the power balance in favor of nobles. As those 40-50 level become 400-500 extra levels when distributed to lower level jobs

>>36211220
>telling everyone that leveling basic jobs makes them stronger would increase the disparity between nobles and everyone else
>increase
Yeah, nah, you're either stupid or deliberately presenting shitty arguments to justify lording your power over plebs.

>>36211220
>If everyone was leveling efficiently, than that massively tilts the power balance in favor of nobles. As those 40-50 level become 400-500 extra levels when distributed to lower level jobs
Almost forgot, that is just looking at XP, don't forget non scions can't change their jobs on their own, it costs 2GP per job change. So again, massively favors those born to wealth as they can regularly change their jobs and even classes to level efficiently.

>>36211259
>Word of QM is against me
>Math is against me
>Logic is against me
>I am just gonna call those who disagree with me stupid, claim they are being evil, and claim their arguments all hold zero merit without explaining why

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>>36211297
>>Math is against me
>>Logic is against me

>>36210589
ah, good thing i decided to just do a clean template and then superimpose all of those on it

>>36211470
smart thing to do, yes.

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>>36211586
Alright, updated the political one to show the chunk of land the Alquian Empire lost to tribal revolts

However, as soon as they earned their independence, they devolved into infighting

Do you like this font type?

>>36211768
it looks fine
normally i prefer to avoid cursive, but this one is actually readable.

>>36211768
also, in future threads, can we have an option to investigate the necromantic curse in the norther territories of eupolis?

>>36211837
times new roman got distorted when I tried it, even tho its at 14pixels size

>>36211854
sure but its no mystery. Sbastia.. wait, northern... you mean the little bit between eopolis and sastia, right? the sbastian mages have a habit of dumping their failed experiments there and its not so much a curse as a gigantic magical necromantic garbage dumpster that noone cleans. You could actually get some temple maidens/priests to go there and turn those hexes into something else. Got to protect them while they work, tho. It will take a whole day

I guess that terrain class would count as swamps? so from swamp could go to floodlands or marshes, and from there could go to plains, then light woodland, then forest, if you wanted

>>36211965
>times new roman got distorted when I tried it, even tho its at 14pixels size
what about calibri? or... well, pretty much ANY font.

>>36211965
>sure but its no mystery. Sbastia.. wait, northern... you mean the little bit between eopolis and sastia, right? the sbastian mages have a habit of dumping their failed experiments there and its not so much a curse as a gigantic magical necromantic garbage dumpster that noone cleans. You could actually get some temple maidens/priests to go there and turn those hexes into something else. Got to protect them while they work, tho. It will take a whole day
oh, so even if we did clean it up, it will just get repolluted by them and we have to repeatedly clean it up, only long term solution is to kick sbastia's ass?

>>36212047
uhm? i am using a font. I burnt my drawing tablet almost a year ago, thats not my handwriting, thats Segoe Script


>>36212076
get them to stop polluting, at least. Of course, most of it comes from terrible monsters corrupting the landscape. If we killed those, that would help a LOT

Also, wow, I didint except trees to be such a massive problem for the map

>>36212283
>>You could actually get some temple maidens/priests to go there and turn those hexes into something else. Got to protect them while they work, tho. It will take a whole day

that sounds like a great way to get Xp and help the environment. lets do it

how much would it cost to hire them?

Anyway the main purpose of this thread was after all to comment on the new jobs

The Son of the Akasha (secret job which requires special training and 10 lvls in wizard, healer and warrior)
+4 Str
+2 Dex
+2 Con
+5 Int
+5 Wis

+16HP
+16MP

+1 Divine
+1 Elemental
+1 Melee Weapons skill
+1 Ranged Weapons skill

(A) Divine ~ You gain the following divine powers
???MP ~ Ancestral Channeling: You can pay 10MP to add 1MP to a MP Crystal. For every 10 extra Son of the Akasha job levels that you have, you add another +1MP when charging a MP Crystal.

(A) Elemental ~ You gain the following elemental powers
???MP ~ Elder Blessing: Adjacent ally gets a elemental type bonus to damage on basic melee and ranged attacks equal to the MP paid for Elder Blessing.

(A) Art of War ~ You gain access to the following Art of War battle techniques
Martial echoes ~ Each time you successfully beat an opponent's PDV with a standard action, you can follow suit with a basic melee or ranged attack as a free action.

(P) Collective Consciousness ~ You can add your Intelligence bonus to any attack roll.

>>36213040
about the same as devadasi, the job is also pretty much exactly the same, only asking for herler and singer instead of healer and dancer

Also, the son of the akasha is as "this is temporal" as they come. Asking for suggestions because im really sort of lost.

The idea is that it accesses the collective consciousness and draws abilities from there

>>36213060
>>36213108
looks great to me
and it gives us something to dump our MP into at night.

what would happen with 1000+ into Elder Blessing?

>>36213060
>Martial echoes ~ Each time you successfully beat an opponent's PDV with a standard action, you can follow suit with a basic melee or ranged attack as a free action.
Just being clear, you can use tricks on the free attack?

More generally, you may want to look at some of the other abilities like Rune Knight's passive that do not allow tricks - most of our damage boosts come from tricks, now.

>>36213182
oh right, i havent mentioned how long it lasts. I was thinkng the next round. It seems like very little but (i think its) bard has a buff that extends the lenght of all buffs by 5 rounds, so there's that

>>36213276
yes you can. Sorry, I guess im tired since im skipping into a lot of details. Im using sai tools to make the map and its tiring

>>36213459
alright made the corrections

(A) Divine ~ You gain the following divine powers
???MP ~ Ancestral Channeling: You can pay 10MP to add 1MP to a MP Crystal. For every 10 extra Son of the Akasha job levels that you have, you add another +1MP when charging a MP Crystal.

(A) Elemental ~ You gain the following elemental powers
???MP ~ Elder Blessing: Adjacent ally gets a elemental type bonus to damage on basic melee and ranged attacks during its next turn, equal to the MP paid for Elder Blessing.

(A) Art of War ~ You gain access to the following Art of War battle techniques
Martial echoes ~ Each time you successfully beat an opponent's PDV with a standard action, you can follow suit with a basic melee or ranged attack as a free action. These attacks can be affected by Weapon Tricks

(P) Collective Consciousness ~ You can add your Intelligence bonus to any attack roll.

>>36212283
>uhm? i am using a font
I meant to see
what about calibri? or... well, pretty much ANY other non cursive font.

I know its a font, I can tell. its just that 99% of fonts out there are non cursive, and there are thousands of them.

>>36212283
>get them to stop polluting, at least. Of course, most of it comes from terrible monsters corrupting the landscape. If we killed those, that would help a LOT
oh hey, we are all about killing monsters!

>>36213573
A round is 6 seconds? 10 seconds?

So we'd be able to burn 4000 mana to charge a crystal with 400 mana in about an hour.

That's pretty horrifically inefficient, but at the same time if we went to a dungeon to quickly recharge our mana in between, we'd be able to do that say 8 times a day, so 3200 mana per day.

A month of that would give us a crystal with about 100,000mp stored. Which would be a pretty good starting point for a golem.

>>36213803
I would rather wait to get a 1,000,000+ crystal first
go big or go home.
also its inefficient but we wouldn't do dungeon diving every day, and we sure don't use all our MP every day, so its at least useful.

>>36209793
>No valuable resources in the area, at least not with the current times mentality. There's huge ponds of this greasy, filthy black stuff that keeps bubbling up, fucking everything. It also tends to catch on fire pretty easily and then it takes forever to put it out.

Pretty interesting stuff.

Of course we have no interest in introducing napalm, lets not have our new airships drop barrels of that stuff.

Wonder if we could find out how to distill heavy and light oils for use as kerosene and gear oil if we cared.

Type of thing we would not have time to do however.

>>36214162
I was thinking the same thing.
But I noticed there is an option to swap out crystals
so what happens to the crystal you take out? if it remains fully functional, you can use 2 crystals for a golem and just alternate them.

>>36214291
>Naplam
Anon, he is describing crude oil
Naplam it isn't

>>36209793
So oil? There's oil in that place? Oh boy, fun times with oil! We'll have to experiment on the stuff to see if it works the same over here as it did in our world. That stuff has a ton of different uses, burning things is just one of them.

>>36214488
yes yes he is
an you know what we can make with that
PLASTIC!
also gas

>>36214488

Well yeah, you have to distill/crack crude oil to a lighter oil, then go ahead and add something else.

>>36214526
>burning things is the least interesting one of them.
ftfy

artificial plastics? oil
artificial rubber? oil
vaseline? oil
chemical fertilizers? oil
tar (for cigarettes, insulating roofs against water, and building asphalt)? oil

of course, the problem is remember how all of those are made. or reinventing them from scratch

for some more see
http://www.ranken-energy.com/Products%20from%20Petroleum.htm

>>36214659

Be an interesting experiment, for when we get shipped to back to grandpa's. find uses for it and then hand him the political issues that creates.

>>36214840
Aww shit, you're right. The stuff is useless now, but if they figured out how to utilize it like we do wars will be fought over it much as they are now.

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>>36213803
>A round is 6 seconds? 10 seconds?
3

>>36213803
>That's pretty horrifically inefficient
its not meant to be something quick, because golems

>>36213803
>A month of that would give us a crystal with about 100,000mp stored. Which would be a pretty good starting point for a golem.
i rest my case

>>36214470
that doesnt sounds too bad

>>36214557
i want to say one word to you, and one word only... plastic!

Had so much trouble with labeling yellowleaves forest and sbastia

>Alquian have a civil war
>No, not the seceeding tribes, an actual civil war in the rest of it that didn't secede
so, should we support a side in there? probably need to find out more about the sides.

>>36214659
>cigarettes
I cant support cigarrettes, man

tabacco for pipes, sure

anyway, im going to bed
tomorrow will go struggle at the hospital. Take care guys, hopefully ill see you on tuesday with somemore jobs done

>>36215045
gnight

>>36214954
great map
>>36215045
good luck

>>36215045
the cigs were a joke. I won't support them either
night, thanks for running. good luck with hospital

>>36214894

Deal with it when it happens I guess. Once a use is found for it, things will happen one way or another.

Of course if you are able to hit industrialization using oil burners compared to coal burners you are able to skip some of the worst effects of smog too.

Then again it is possible to do everything with magic and use oil for the non burning end products

>>36215045
what about weed?

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>>36215497
Assuming it exists in this world and has similar effects on the people there as it does on us. The good news is weed takes next to no processing. Harvest the bud, dry it out a bit, pick out the seeds and stem, and light it up. Someone has to have tried that before.

Of course, you'd have to know about things like genetics to create new strains and up the potency. As it's also basically hemp it has many uses besides getting baked. At low potency the effect of getting well and truly high would require you to smoke or consume a good amount, as opposed to the "chronic" now grown in places like California that send you into outer space with just one joint or one brownie.

So, if discovered, our next course of action is whether or not we want the herb to become a thing here. Coca leaves were once merely chewed for a slight stim effect and is used medicinally by several cultures. It took science and processing to turn those plants into "cocaine" the drug.

>>36216050
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

>>36216050
and dirt weed can go to dank in just 7 generations just gotta take cuttings before it flowers and add some cloning powder and plant it. hell with the rate weed grows it should only take 2-3 years (12-14 generations ) to get that good Kush from plan old hemp.

>>36216050
well if we don't introduce weed should we make
Prozac? or Valium? chemo? weed is a hella good medicine and does a tone of things.

>>36216285
how about we stay out of the addictive mind altering substances market entirely?
I don't think introducing drug cartels to this world counts as "being good"

>>36216285
Weed is safer than antidepressants. No chance of OD and doesn't have very many side effects. Plus it only induces psychological addictions (i.e. you just really really like being high and only *think* you need more). I know of no physiological addictive traits (unlike drugs like crack and heroin).

But, some people don't think "drugs" can ever be a good thing. So we'll all vote when and if it ever comes up.

>>36216404
Drug cartels only exist because the substance is illegal. When you make shit people want illegal, you get death and violence without solving anything. Look at prohibition, never would have had Al Capone without it.

>>36216404
it does not become an issue unless some damn fool tries prohibition

>>36216404
who said drug cartels why would it be illegal here?

also I recommended we don't try it till 22-23 ish so its more effective on a fully developed body.