>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron

>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.

>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron

>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.

>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron
Kick the tires and light the fires!

>>35882392
>>Other
Are there doughnuts? Get some doughnuts.

>>35882449
We can't do that. We ain't on a patrol beat man. And we don't have a police cruiser.

>>35882392
>>Talk to Knife Squadron

Merc I would like to talk to you about the extreme lack of realism in the air combat here, we should be having extended posts that describe the monotony of level and straight flight for three hours before we even reach the kill box, and also I am frankly still disturbed at how an F-4 Phantom was able to match an F-22 clearly you have to do some more research with your quests because this isn't realistic at all

also i am positively disturbed the unreasonable loadouts being described here we don't even seem to be using actual weapons, but rather are using some sort of anime-bullshit do-everything long-ranged faggot-seekers, we're in a phantom for fuckssake why aren't we flying straight at our targets for a solid minute trying to guide in Sparrows that have a 70+ percent chance to miss their targets.

Otherwise, p.good quest 9/10 it's okay

Also:

>Talk to your wingmates.

PS WHERES THE TARIN

>>35882465
We're in a briefing room.I figure it's the morning after. Totally should be coffee and doughnuts.

>>35882517
Have you played an Ace Combat game before?

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>>35882517
Oh calm down feelthy, it's Strangereal. Things like this happen on the regular here.

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>>35882517
hornet plz go

>>35882392
>>Talk to your wingmates.

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>>35882517
Well good to see you here, I guess.

>>35882392
Does this quest follow one of the decendants from Valkyrian Mercs Quest?

>>35882566
Hell, how many wars happen within the span of a freakin' decade in Strangereal and how long do they last? What like less than a year on average.

>>35882517
All that needs to be said on the matter is Ace Combat. While I enjoy playing Falcon, Ace Combat is also fine. Two very different beasts. Both are fantastic.

>>35882517
In Ace Combat games.. it's arcade flight.. you typically have 60-80 missiles on ANY Given aircraft. Hell people have fucking helicarriers and giant cannons that destroy nations.

>>35882517
don't you have porn to write?
also >>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.

>>35882601
Indeed. They basically use the One Year War as a strategic model.

>>35882615
I know what Ace Combat is, I just was making fun of that one anon who was flipping out over realism the other day.

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>>35882559
>>35882566
>>35882569
>>35882581
>All these anons missing the joke.

>>35882392
>Talk to your wingmates.
>>35882517
>Arguing about realism
>In an Ace Combat Quest
I sincerely hope you're joking

>>35882639
Oh...ok.jpg

>>35882559
>>35882566
>>35882569
>>35882615
your all a bit slow

>>35882633
Hell, the Belkan War, the war that was one of the BIGGEST conflicts in Strangereal lasted for only like a few months! From March to June (officially) and December 25-31 (AWWNB)

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>>35882633
>One Year War as a strategic model.

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>>35882640
>>35882639
Well... I guess I owe an apology.

>mfw

>>35882668
>/tg/
>Actually thinking
Pick one

>>35882640
> implying i missed the joke
> implying hornet's humor isn't a shit
> implying he shouldn't go back to writing feelz rollercoaster

>>35882640
Oi, why I'm being lumped with those people when I said it was kinda nice to see him...

>>35882692
Templates like that are forbidden!

>>35882672
Well I figured they have some similarities, like first few months would be swarming and antagonistic advantage, new blood leveling out the score in the middle of the conflict, and a decisive prototype vs superweapon duel in teh last part.

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>>35882392
You turn to your wingmates. You felt it would be too awkward just sitting there silent the whole time.

"Hey, guys." You say. "Don't you think yesterday's attack was kind of... strange?"

"What do you mean?" Lara blinked. "I had to defend airbases from attack ALL THE TIME."

"Yeah, well, I didn't." You shake your head and sigh. "But don't you think it was incredibly convenient for the enemy that they just HAPPENED to attack when we were at our weakest?"

"When you put it that way..." Lilian frowns. "That does seem rather strange."

"Hmph. Just overthinking things." Amy shakes her head.

"Still..." You frown, obviously still troubled. "That must mean there's a spy here."

"Probably." Lilian nods. "But I'm sure you're not the only one to catch on. I'm sure Command is working on it, too."

>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
>We should find that spy ourselves.
>Other

>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
Any Halloween specials?

>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
We're a pilot. We fly planes. Act Stoic.

>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

>>35882782
>>We should find that spy ourselves.
Alright, someone hand me a Backblower!

>>35882782
>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.
And by pros I mean not!British spies with a thing for maids
>>35882726
No, that's just how all fictional wars are fought
Elves sing, Dwarves drink, wars are decided by recruits with attitude blowing up superweapons that cost the GDP of at least three countries

>>35882782
>We should find that spy ourselves.
>Other
"They might resort to sabotage next, so we better keep a close eye on our planes. Those might be the potential next target."

>>35882803
All I know is that our idols are probably trick or treating, then watching a GOAT horror movie, and ending with them riffing on B-list horror movies.

>>35882782
>>Other
We should give command a hand in finding out the spy.

>>35882782
>>We should find that spy ourselves.

>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

BUT

Perhaps we should bring this up someone ourselves. Things could have gone really badly, really fast.

>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

>>35882824
God, the governments of Strangereal must really crack the whip on their taxpayers to fund all of this crap...

>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

We are in no way qualified for this.

>>35882872
Either that, or all those Ulysses fragments are mostly composed of rare metals, gold, and other pricey stuff

>>35882824
>And Sakuya?
>Yes, mr. Bond?
>Shaken, not stirred, please.

>>35882782
>>Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros.

You guys do realize the number one suspect for being a spy is Karla, right?

>>35882922
She's Belkan she's too proud to spy.

>>35882897
>Chrono Miner reporting for duty!

>>35882897
Well Estovakia don't seem to think the same. Maybe if they didn't decide to use taxpayer's money to fund the Aigaion and support craft, then maybe, the Estovakians would have some semblance of a normal life.

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>>35882905
Wrong not!Brit

>>35882940
Normal life and a stable economy...

>>35882905
Wrong Brit. Please read VMQ.

>>35882940
10 year long civil wars tend to make such policies difficult

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>>35882782
"Yeah, I guess we can leave the spy hunting to the pros." You lean back in your chair. "I don't know the first thing about spycraft."

Huh, maybe you should've paid more attention to your uncle's lectures about the subject. But.... it was too late for that now.

"Okay everybody, quiet down!" Samantha yells to grab everybody's attention. "The briefing is starting now!"

On cue, the lights dim and the projector activates, showing a new tactical map of a large island chain.

"As most of you already know, the rebels attempted to bomb our base yesterday. Thanks to efforts of our pilots, though, we managed to intercept and destroy the enemy force."

Of course she wouldn't name you all specifically. You guess so as not to inflate your egos or anything like that.

"Now, thanks to surviving personnel we managed to capture, as well as data we managed to recover from the wrecks of the bombers and AWACS craft, we've found out that the rebels' airbase is located in this island chain." Samantha points to the tactical map. "The problem is, we don't know which island it is. Command has determined that it's too dangerous to send in recon planes, so we'll have to wait for Yuktobania or Osea to route a spy satellite to the location. What we CAN do, however, is to slowly choke them to death."

Samantha then shifts the map to the west, where Estovakia's shore is visible. There are also a number or red lines going from the mainland to the island chain.

"We believe the rebels on the islands are being directly supplied by sympathizers in the northern territories, both by sea and air. We'll be tasked with interdicting these supply convoys and hopefully weaken the rebels before we stage a full attack."

"What sort of resistance can we expect?" One of the pilots asks.

(cont)

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>>35883205
"Nothing that we haven't faced before." Samantha says somewhat vaguely. "But we do have unconfirmed reports that the rebels have hired their own mercenaries to bolster their forces, so stay on guard. With that said, we will begin distributing flightplans for each squadron. You'll all have specific areas to patrol."

With that, attendants begin walking down the aisles with sealed folders, each bearing a specific squadron's name. Lara collects your flight's folder and tears it open.

"Aw nuts." She frowns.

"What's wrong?" Lilian asks.

"We got the nothernmost route." Lara sighs. "Cold weather and bad visibility all around. It's gonna be a real shitshow."

"Oh dear... in the Demon Edges?" Lilian frowns.

"Huh?" Amy blinks.

>Demon Edges?
>Oh fuck no.
>I'm not afraid of that place.
>Other

>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?

>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?

>>35883221
>Demon Edges?
dredging up the Hrimfaxi's remains when Merc?

>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?

>>35883221
>The Razgriz retired, ladies, we'll be fine.

>>35883221
>Demon Edges?

>Huh, maybe you should've paid more attention to your uncle's lectures about the subject

She's a sleeper agent!

>>35883221
We fucking flew under the Razgriz.. why would we worry about them?

>>35883278
Get out of here Carlos

>>35883294
Karla only flew with them for like, one actual mission, which was the Sand Island defense. By the time she recovered, the 108th was already "KIA".

>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?

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>>35883221
>>I'm not afraid of that place.
A gallant knight is always ready to face her fears! Now whip out the holy hand grenade!

>we do have unconfirmed reports that the rebels have hired their own mercenaries to bolster their forces

PIIIIIXXXXXYYYYYY

>>35883221
>>Demon Edges?

Okay, so lemme get this straight....

>The Razgriz Legend is popular in Osea and Yukotobania.
>The Razgriz Straits are located North of Emmeria, the place where the Demon was believed to come from
>A Blue Dove for the Princess is a Belkan Fairy Tale that mentioned Razgriz.

>>35883221
>I'm not afraid of that place.
>...much.

>>35883329
Like the Generals really have a cause worthy enough for him to follow

>>35883329
I think he's still trying to figure out what MUH BORDERS mean.

>>35883349
Other cultures stealing and mutilating fairy tales. Sound accurate.

Snow white you think Disney. Now go look up the German folk tail.

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>>35883392
>>35883409
Well, uhh....

Phoenix then?

>>35883474
My favorite plane :)

>>35883474
Their business is shooting rebels, not helping them

>>35883523
Russian planes are just fucking pretty. Wouldn't trust one over anything Western though.

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>>35883221
"The Demon Edges?" You frown. "You mean the place where-"

"Where the Demons of Razgriz supposedly came from, yes." Lilian nods. "But not only that, but the area has a rather terrible reputation where many ships and aircraft that dare venture into that area never return. That's partly how the first myths started."

>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that place really is haunted.
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
>Other

>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
Like Wardog being Wardog

>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
SCARED.JPG

>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

They're just disturbing the peace is all!

>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

>>35883550
>Other
"Make sure to write me into your wills, I need the money."

>>35883550
>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that place really is haunted.

>>35883572
SCARED, you say?

>http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217

>>35883550
>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.

Is this where we might find Knight Puncher?

Will love bloom on the battlefield?

>>35883550
>>Don't be silly. There's a perfectly rational explanation.
SCIENCE

>>35883616
Seen that before.

>>35883616
Seen it. You gotta try harder than that.

Yep, Karla is completely skeptical of all myths, legends, and superstitions.

When the Demon Lord of the Round Table is mentioned though....

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>>35883642
Not for you, Otacon.

>>35883616
Is that the one with the possessed scrollbar?
>>35883672
That's because the Demon Lord is very much real

>>35883550
>>Other
"Pffffft. next you'll say there is four F-14s in black and red tail sighted there"

>>35883682
I don't get the reference.

>>35883704
>Will love bloom on the battlefield
>Otacon
>His love ever living

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>>35883704
In Hiimdaisy's Let's Destroy Metal Gear!, Otacon asks the question to Snake like in the game.

Snake replies with the abovementioned quote, causing otacon to sulk.

>>35883721
>>35883743
I feel stupid but my point still stand.

>>35883725
Whose kid is that? Quattre's or Peacecraft's?

>>35883743
where can i find hiimdaisy archives now?

If I recall, the Ace Combat series has superplanes or something like that. Wish I had saved the image with them.

Will we see those planes?

>>35883771
Well there's the video that contains all the MGS stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YH3o2pf-Bc

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>>35883704
>Hasn't read hiimdaisy

>>35883771
I'm not sure. Just google man.

>>35883783
Wasn't it the Falken or Vulcen or something like that?

>>35883783
If Merc not even show us Falken, i'll get Ghost's puppies to chew him. And maybe get Mouse's TATP
(yeah, strikers 89 reference here, sorry)

>>35883725
That's Naina from GW: Frozen Teardrop http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Naina_Peacecraft

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>>35883550
"There's a perfectly rational explanation for all those disappearances." You sigh. "There's poor weather and visibility up there, so of course incidents are far more likely. Also, statistically, the northern waters aren't even all that dangerous. Other regions suffer more accidents. Plus, a majority of the existing reports are either inaccurate, embellished, or plain made up."

"Hah, I knew it." Amy nods, reassured.

"Well aren't you a party pooper." Lara pouts. God, it looks like she really wanted to believe those waters were supernatural!

"Well, I was just pointing it out." Lilian smiles ambivalently.

"Anyways, we gotta get ready to take off soon." Lara checks her watch. "Wanna get anything done first?"

>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
>Let's head for the hangar.
>Other

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>>35883783

>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Let's try to advance a generation.

>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Capitalism, HO!

>>35883828
-Falken
-Wvyern
-Nightraven or soemething like that
-Nosferatu
-Shinden II kai
-Morgan
i might miss something, but every Ace title have its own superplane.

>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
We probably won't have enough to buy anything worth it until after this mission.

>>35883849
>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.

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>>35883849
>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
See if we can get something that can actually maneuver
>>35883852
Pic related

>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.

>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.

PLANES

>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
I hope the team has our new paint job done.

>>35883849
>>Let's head for the hangar.
did they finish painting our Phabulous Phantom yet?

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>>35883895

Personally far more partial to the Delphinius line

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>>35883852

>>35883846
>Frozen Teardrop

While I'm not a Wing fanboy, I kinda hate that manga. Maybe because of how the older characters went about after Waltz.

>>35883849
>>I want to see what Quint has to sell, first.
Time to wop out our wads.

>>35883946
Even nostalgia filter can't save it.

>>35883927
>Delphinus 3
>Not going for SEXY BLUE Delphinus 1

OkayIGuess.jpg

>>35883967
Isn't in Teardrop the part where Relena and Heero were, uhhh...

"Frozen"?

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>>35883927
Glorious Belkan-made AD line all the way
Nosferatu's pretty cool too

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>>35883941

>>35884002
>Nosferatu's pretty cool too
We need the railgun. We're skilled in guns. Rail gun was more or less point and click.

>>35884002
Man, I wish they'd implement the ADLER in some form in whatever AC continuity. Dat sexy, sexy bird...

>>35884023
>AC continuity
Assault Horizon's.

>>35884023
... with a special weapon that's supposed to basically be the Scinfaxi's ballistic missile mounted on a plane

>>35884038
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

>>35884038
Okay, scratch that. Any continuity BUT THAT.

>douseitwithholywater.gif

>>35884041
My mind's machinations could only become so complex!!!

>>35884038
First off, that's just AC in name only
Second, the Adler was never in AH, the only fictional planes there were the Shinden II and Nosferatu

>>35883849
"I want to see what Quint has to sell, first." You say. "I actually got some spending money, so I might as well see what he's got."

"Sure!" Lara nods. "You go on ahead, then. We'll make sure Smokey gets your plane ready!"

"Thanks." You nod and split up with your squad, heading over the hangar that acted as Artemis' unofficial store. As always, Quint was there, legs up on a cargo crate as he read a magazine of presumably pornographic nature.

"Oh, hey there... Valkyrie, was it?" Quint grins. "Come to purchase something?"

"I'd like to see what you have available." You say noncommittally.

"Well, I've got wares as long as you have coin!" Quint chortles and hands you a catalog. "Here you go!"

SHOP LIST: http://pastebin.com/sBQuPLdw

You frown as you look through the catalog. You only had $3500 in your account right now. No way you could afford any of this. Quint seems to notice your frown, too.

"You know, if you've got trouble paying, we can arrange something..."

You instinctively recoil, dropping the catalog and clutching your arms close to your chest as you give Quint a nasty glare.

"What? No! Nothing like that!" Quint sputters. "What the hell made you think that?"

"You seem like that kind of person." You narrow your eyes.

"No, seriously, I'm not like that!" Quint shakes his head rapidly. "I hate spending money and girls are no exception!"

"Okay, so what are you proposing?" You raise an eyebrow.

"It's within my power to offer loans to our pilots, if they so wish to take one." Quint nods.

>Tell me more...
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
>Other

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>>35884018

>all those planes

It's like the latest generation of fighters had a sticky, sweaty, Jager Bomb-fueled orgy and that squadron[s constituents are the mutant half-breeds born nine months later.

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Nope.

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

The only thing I'd really want is a new plane, and we really shouldn't take out a loan that size.

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
On the bright side, sinking ship convoys should get us plenty of dosh

>>35884194
>>Tell me more...
Just tell me, but don;t get in debt for now.

>>35884194
>no gripen

Disappointment forever.

>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Maybe later, but this guy probably charges interest like a mob boss.

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
Okay, now we know the general price range.

>>35884194

Delicious Fulcrum...

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>>35884194

>F16 and F18 up for sale

Ohh, how we need either of those. Or a Super Hornet.


>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

The interest rates would kill us--and I douibt we'd make enough bank on our missions to pay them off in a timely matter anyhow.

>>35884205
Strangereal Aeronautics engineers and designers, son.

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.
I'd like to stick to the old Boo, thank you very much.

>>35884250
It'll show up in the catalog once we complete enough sorties, like in Ace Combat

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.


F-18 or F-16 guys?

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

>>35884194
>Tell me more...
we may as well find out what it entails, we don't have to say yes to it

also, fuck yes I want a Viggen

>>35884194
>>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

Merc, how about the variants?

How do variants work? Do we need 'XP' on planes or we just order?

Or can we convert from the base plane?

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Hey guys, I just realized...

Amy's dad is the Warthog driver from Area 88, right?

If that's the case, when do we expect Shin Kazama and the rest of his squadron flying in this quest?

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>>35884294
I can only hope. She's a nice plane.

>>35884304
Mig-29

>>35884304

F-16XL

>>35884294
Well that's slightly irritating.

>>35884304
I'm open to both, though I admit that I have a thing for the Falcon.

>>35884194
>Tell me more...

>>35884277
>>35884304
I'd go for the hornet over the falcon

Also what the fuck it gives up speed?

The F/A-18 can reach a top speed of mach 1.8, whereas the Falcon's fastest variants have only reached mach 1.47

>>35884315
If we can get variants, we might as well get the F-4X
A flying brick that can match the Blackbird in speed? Muh dick
>>35884332
Swedes make some real awesome planes, so glad they gave up nukes for the Viggen

>>35884365
There are some stats that say the Falcon can go up to Mach 2.

>>35884365
Not true. Falcon can go ~mach 2 at high altitude. Presumably with clean config.

>>35884194
>SHOP LIST: http://pastebin.com/sBQuPLdw
Oh fuck yes a Viggen, we are totally saving up for that.

Although its odd how the Hornet is slower than the Falcon which is the opposite of what they are in real life...

Anyone else a fan of sukhoi?

>>35884426

Everyones a fan of sukhoi plane lines.

Thing is, Karla isn't.

So not on this quest.

>>35884304
Viggen.

>>35884414
Only under very specific circumstances at high altitude with a specific configuration especially for high speed flight.

Which means that kitted out as a warbird it will never ever reach that.

Can we get a Wyvern?

>>35884426
Get out slavboo, this is Murrica and eurojet territory

No Raptors or Lightning IIs?

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>>35884365

I say next airframe is the Hornet, then the Eagle, then Strike Eagle when we can afford it. Then, after all that, even further down, get a Raptor, and then have the thread devolve into planesperging when it comes time we can afford the F-35.

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>>35884450
HELL NO!

>>35884414
Yeah sure it can, when it's wearing nothing, has burnt most of its fuel, is rigged for high alt speed runs and is doing its best impression of a satellite rather than a warplane.

It is impossible for it to achieve those speeds with missiles and guns and fuel and avionics suites onboard, so in the context of this quest, it is literally impossible for it to fly that fast.

>>35884448
Because a hornet will never carry any fuel tanks or ordnance and thus will always reach its top speed in any combat situation?

>>35884365
I'd take the Falcon over the Hornet. The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they're obsessed with twin engines.

>>35884466
Why not just get a Silent Eagle and call it a day.

>>35884466
Why no Rafale, why

>>35884466
Why would we go for an F-35 over a F-22?

And why would we go for the F-22 when we can get the YF-23?

>>35884491

There is a good point about engine failure and all that.

I want the Nosferatu so we can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxnC6jkJyEM

>>35884450
No.
We are Belkan, and only the glorious Belkan born Morgan/Falken/Adler is worthy to be our ultimate steed

>>35884483
hornets can reach mach 1.6 with a full fuel load, the falcon can't get near that

>>35884491
twin engines is a fucking good thing, it means double redundancy and a more robust and safer plane in case we lose one, which we probably will at some point

>>35884494
Because 4.5 gen a shit
>>35884500
But twin engine opens the floor to a host of other failures unique to twin engine. Plus single engine has done the job for years before they got obsessed with twin engine, at it will do the job in the future.

We should probably go to the hangar now.

>>35884304

A general consensus over the last couple of threads was aiming for a falcon.

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>>35884534

>>35884491
>The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they're obsessed with twin engines.
>The only reason the Navy chose the way they did was because they don't want planes dropping out of the sky over the ocean with only one engine

Don't be retarded anon.

>>35884516
>Frontier Missile Massacre
>Not glorious Ichijou Laser Tunnel Run and Beer Can Barrage
Tis better comrade.

>>35884498
All this talk about fifth-gens and I'm just waiting for the glorious Rafale...

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>>35884194
"No thanks. I don't like to be indebted." You shake your head. "And no offense, but I suspect you charge interest rates that rival the Mafia's."

"Ha! The Mafia's got NOTHING on me!" Quint laughs. "But it's your money, so no matter how much I want it, it's still yours to spend."

"Well, at least I have an idea of what I have to aim for." You sigh. "Take care, Quint."

"Hope to see you back again so we can conduct some actual business!" Quint chuckles and returns to his presumably pornographic magazine.

You meanwhile head back to the hangar, where your planes are already being prepped. There, you see Smokey, overlooking everything his crew was doing.

"Well, it took me and my boys all night." Smokey grunts. "But we did it. One freshly painted Phantom, ready to fly!"

And what a beauty it was. A vivid blue/grey with a feather pattern painstakingly painted on both the tops and bottoms of the wings. On the side of the nose and tailfin was the head of a Valkyrie painted in your likeness.

You have absolutely no clue how much work it took for them to get it done in such a short time.

"So what do you think?" Smokey says, puffing up with so much pride you swear he grew by several inches.

>I love it.
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
>Kiss Smokey
>Other

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>>35884455

I for one would love an F22.

>>35884495

Because Rafale is guilty pleasure tier jetfu

>>35884534

That it does. A-4 skyhawk <3

But the ability to limp home when a engine goes out is really really useful.

>>35884567
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
>I love it.

>>35884567
>Could be a bit bluer.. (joke)
But in all seriousness
>I love it.

>>35884567
>I love it.

>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey
on the cheek

>>35884567
>>I love it.
>>Kiss Smokey
On the cheek

>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey
smokey is mai husbando
We should buy booze for the ground crew later.

>>35884567
>>I love it.
>Other
Hug the plane

>>35884567
>>I love it.

>>35884567
>>I love it.
>>35884574
we all would

>>35884567
>I love it.

>>35884609
This.

I say we save up for the Saab 37 Viggen, and a AtA missile upgrade, and then work towards getting a F-15 variant, then aim towards the YF-23/F-22 Black Widow FTW

>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey
Give credit where it's due.

>>35884528
>hornets can reach mach 1.6 with a full fuel load, the falcon can't get near that

Okay I'm lazy can you link the source?

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>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey

What sorta gifts could we possibly give these guys? Champagne? Beer and smokes? Chocolate and cigarettes?

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>>35884647
She's dead, anon

>>35884574
Muh Nigga.

>>35884585
A-4 is fine too... I'm lookin at you BamCo!!

>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey
Seriously, this guy deserves it.

>>35884662

Buy a round for the guys

>>35884567
>I love it.
>Kiss Smokey

>>35884567
>I love it.
Fuck'n A. It's been less than a day right? These guys work fast.

>>35884663
SHE CAN YET LIVE ON THROUGH US

She's better off as a specter of the skies, preying on those who believe she is truly dead, haunting the battlefields and watching over her comrades, fitting for a Valkyrie don't you think?

>>35884702
Fuck yes that bird in our paint scheme would be amazing.

This we must get.

>>35884702
Impressive.

>>35884702
I'll follow her anywhere!

Although really, our status as a gunfighter makes the F-22 a better choice.

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>>35884702
Then shouldn't we pick the Grey Ghost scheme instead of her widow sister?

>>35884567
>>Kiss Smokey

>>35884751
Who says we can't put two M61's inside the Widow? this is an AC quest after all.

>>35884772
Maneverability, anon.

>>35884772
Better yet, give it MGPs as a special weapon

>>35884775
Yeah, like we're the queen of that in a fucking missile truck...

We fly a fucking F-4 for fucks sake, and we gunfight fine in it, imagine how good we'd be in a Widow when we can do miracles in this flying brick?

>>35884801
Imagine how much better we'd do in a F-22.

>>35884567
>>35884619
seconded

>>35884775
Have you looked at what we're flying and gunfighting in lately?

An F4 Phantom, nothing about it screams maneuverability anon.

Hell the YF-23 kind of plays to our strengths of how we fly our brick, fast and yet capable of insane maneuvers.

>>35884831
Not much

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I am sold on the widow as well

>>35884850
If you can't see the advantage that extra maneuverability would have, I can't help you.

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>>35884860
Shut up Char, you made Icelina a widow (sort of) yourself!

>>35884567
>>35884619
This

>>35884831
the Widow is has some similar traits to our Phantom in that its fast as fuck, and capable of crazy acrobatics with some insanity blended in, and seeing as this is an AC quest where speed will get us from objective to objective, like with our Phantom, I reckon the agility difference between the two would not be worth the loss in speed.

And besides that, it is just so goddamn sexy, only thing better looking would be the F-19A, but thats unlikely to show up.

>>35884869
I can see it fine, it just ain't worth it to me in my opinion.

Widow for life.

>>35884850
The YF-23 was shit. An F-35 would be better at everything it could try to do.

>>35884905
Now the F-35 is fantastic, but it would lose AtA.

>>35884905
Riiiight.

You know the only reason they went with the F-22 over the YF-23 was that they thought the advent of gen 5 stealth air dominance fighters would mean that everyone would be dogfighting at close range again.

That sure came about didn't it...

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Hell, maybe we should get an X-32. Just look how happy it is.

>>35884937
Not to mention the possibility of a F-22 Navy variant.

>>35884905
>An F-35 would be better at everything it could try to do.
>Glorified multirole gimped by its lacking stealth
>trying to be better than a true gen 5 airsup fighter

nigaa you best not be serious

>>35884947
that with our paint scheme would be funny as fuck

>>35884947
>Chuckler
It's cute, I give it that.

>>35884956
>F-22 Sea Raptor

... Meh.

>>35884963
>gimped by its lacking stealth
Uhhh

>>35884956
And the Strike variant.

Both of which they decided they couldn't afford, nor want, only after they made the decision, based on the fact they wanted both...

Fucking Chair Force politics depriving the world of sexy planes

>>35884891
The YF-23 lost to the F-22 because, specifically, it's maneuverability, or lack thereof, was considered a major drawback.

>>35884923
The 23 wasn't even on par with a Viper, something even the 35 can match up to.

>>35884937
Yes, just because there hasn't been a major war between roughly comparable foes means we should go back to the wonderful days of yore where we pretended that BVR would be how all major airbattles would be decided.

Protip: The most successful missile to date is the sidewinder, fired within visual range, typically after the pilot has OUT MANEUVERED THEIR OPPONENT, you fucking idiot.

>>35884992
>The 23 wasn't even on par with a Viper
You're full of shit.

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>>35884956
Oh man if we ever see a swing wing naval Raptor, we should jump at the chance to get it immediately.

I'd almost pick that over a Widow.

>>35885043
swing wing a shit

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>>35884567
"I love it!" You can't help but smile. Smokey and his guys did a real great job.

"Hah, warms my cold dead heart to hear a pilot say that." Smokey grins. "Now, you want to keep those 4AAMs, or would you like to switch to some other secondary weapon?"

"Just a sec." You turn to Lara, who was already settled into the cockpit of her Eagle. "What are we expecting out there?"

"Well..." Lara shrugs. "Cargo planes, fighters, maybe ships. Who knows?"

"Hmmm..." You pause.

>Stick with 4AAMs.
>Unguided Bombs
>Cluster Bombs
>Napalm
>Other

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>>35885006
>>35884992
Cmon guys, it's too early in the thread for a dispute over 5th-gens.

>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.

>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.

>>35885055
>Cluster Bombs

>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
Just to take on any potential ships.

>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs

>>35885055
>>Napalm

NAPALM SHIPS

>>35885055
>Napalm
We're going after supply convoys after all, and it just isn't a Phantom without the smell of napalm

>>35884992
>The YF-23 lost to the F-22 because, specifically, it's maneuverability, or lack thereof, was considered a major drawback.
In the specific context of what they invisioned the plane would be doing, close range knifefighting with stealth.

Which renders the point invalid.

>>35885055
>>Napalm
Duh, Belka.

>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.
for ground target we have guns

>>35885082
Cluster munitions won't kill ships. They CAN utterly wreck the ship's exposed electronics like radar or certain weapons systems as well as killing crew in the open.

>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.

>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
We want to sink these buggers, you know.

>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.

>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.
UGMs and guns can handle everything else

>>35885055
>>Stick with 4AAMs.

>>35885114

Just set them on fire.

>>35885055
>Stick with 4AAMs.

Aww. No kiss :(

>>35885082
>>35885114
Fair enough, with that said I change my vote to 4AAMs

>>35885055
Merc, important question for this vote;

Do we keep the 4AAM's and can we use them again in a later mission or do we need to buy them back?

>>35885088
>>35885095
>>35885108
If SWQ has taught me anything, it's that napalm won't put down a ship, no matter what circumstances.

>>35885134
Won't do shit

>>35885142
>:(
Stop that.

>>35885157
Good thing this isn't SWQ then

>>35885055
>>Unguided Bombs
We've got 2 air supremacy fighters watching over us and have UGMs and guns for backup, we're going hulk hunting, we need firecrackers for this

>>35885161
No. ;)

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A bit late for the clusterfuck, but as far as planes go I would like to present: An obscure German paper design, The F-104G-HA. Because what the Starfighter needed was MORE THRUST. That's 2 ramjets glued on to the wings. It may want to kill us even more than the stock Starfighter. Unfortunately, the only sources I can find are an Ace Combat ripoff, and some German modeler, so it probably never existed, but this is ACQ, so who really gives a fuck?

>>35885185
;^)

>>35885157
I dunno, I go around just fine cooking carriers and cargo ships with my Napalm load.

>>35884194
>No thanks, I don't like to be indebted.

Sixteen tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. Oh Saint Peter, I can't go, 'cause I owe my soul to the company store..."

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0l-xPhWzs

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>>35885169
Indeed, but there is a limit to how much damage a fire will do to fully manned ship constructed of steel. Napalm was invented for use on things that will readily burn, such as wooden buildings.

>>35885187
Too tame, need N-104, rocket thrusters for life

>>35885187
>Taking Suicide with Wings and turning it into Suicide with Wings and two Ramjets

And Hartmann's arguments are vindicated anew.

>>35885210
If you check the timing on it, the guy was somebody trolling you. A minute hadn't passed since the previous emote post.

>>35885187
>Ace Combat ripoff
Hey man, Vector Thrust is pretty cool. Plus I think the F-104G-HA never actually left the design board.

>>35885106
The 23 was inferior to the 22 in every way that mattered, of course it lost.

Stealth airframe means precisely nothing if you stick all kinds of emitters on it and expect it to fight from afar. Whoops, looks like your fancy superfast super stealth jet is actually not very stealthy at all when it's running at full bore and stands out like a sore thumb to any modern IR missile, and the fact that it would need a radar to track targets with before popping off those fancy AAMRAMS means that every fucking person within 200 nautical miles knows there's a stealth fighter out there, and now it's revealed its position by firing a missile that doesn't even have a greater than 30 percent chance to strike an actively maneuvering target! Hooraaaaaaaaay!

Meanwhile, the Raptor is comparably fast, if not as fast, and can actually do something about opponents in BVR and WVR combat with equal deftness.

If USAF went with the 23, it would have been the F-35 in its given role, that is how big a piece of shit that jet would have been.

>>35885294
Man, why isn't there a plane as capable as the 22 and as sexy as the 23.

That would make me cream my pants.

>>35885294
F-35 is a fantastic multi-role, so I'll take that as a complement.

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>>35885322
I don't know about you, but the F-22 is sex to my eyes.

>>35885294
Of course, this being AC means F-23 might get some refit to adress its shortcomings...

>>35885322
Someone has to develop Variable Fighter technology first before we can get that.

Aww, No kissing our ground crew huh?

Oh well.

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>>35885187
Well, if we're going to talk about experimental superplanes, does /tg/ have any opinions on the skunkworks latest project, the SR-72 blackbird? This monster is designed to get up to Mach 6.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-the-lockheed-martin-sr-72-the-spaceage-heir-of-1456730707

>>35885230
The best part is it's not even the most ridiculous starfighter variant. There's two VTOL projects using it, the first being this. The triangle thingy spins like a helicopter to take off vertically, the main engine lights up, then the top locks when forward speed has been achieved. And this is the less crazy one.

>>35885354
Oh it is, but not as sexy as the Widow.

>>35885294
While all valid points in real life, we ain't in real life, so I'll hold my judgement until I see both airframes available to us.

>>35885323
The F-35 is like the Panther or Tiger: Perhaps the best in it's class, but it fails in the long run because it's A: too complicated and costly to field in effective numbers, and B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
All those bells and whistles don't mean much when you're up against 5-to-1 odds

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>>35885402
>forgot pic

>>35885386
Pretty.

>>35885386
strategic recon plane. Won't that useful for us except if somehow General Resource get their hand on one of this and makes it interceptor.

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>>35885402
The second being this fucking thing. Count them, that's 14 fucking engines in the wings. There are no words.

>>35885386
Wait, it's still called the black bird? I thought they had a different name for it.

>>35885402
What? they still tried a TriebFlugel variant??

>>35885428
>strategic recon plane.
That will be armed for interceptor and standoff strike capability roles

>>35885435
whoa what

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>>35885322

only plane that comes to mind is the F-111

>dat range
>dat payload
>dem swept wings

Truly, we'll never find another girl that will every haul as much while still being a fighter-bomber derpfish.

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>>35885435
>I saved the thumbnail

>>35885114
Modern ships are pretty much aluminium foil compared to battleships. An arleigh burke probably has less than 50mm of RHA deck so any antitank bomblet with shaped charges are going to drill holes into it. Swiss cheese would be an apt comparison. Doesn't necessarily mean it'll sink the ship of course. Not recommended since anti air missiles are a thing and it's much safer to shoot beyond the horizon with ASMs.

>>35885386
>gizomodo

Stop.

>>35885402
>>35885417
I saw that in Vector Thrust and my jaw dropped at how crazy it is
>>35885435
ERROR: logic.exe has stopped working

>>35885428
>Won't that useful for us except if somehow General Resource get their hand on one of this and makes it interceptor.

Might want to actually look into it because it is planned for just that with provisions for armaments...

>>35885428
It has missiles anon. And since they don't need as much propellent (since they would be fired while at Mach 6 anyway) it can carry a lot.

>>35885451
Oh god I hope we can get a Aardvark, it would be a great upgrade from our Phantom.

OI MERC, WHY NO F-111 IN THE SHOP?

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>>35885411
>The F-35 is like the Panther or Tiger: Perhaps the best in it's class, but it fails in the long run because it's A: too complicated and costly to field in effective numbers, and B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
That would be wrong
>A
The F-35 isn't really that complicated to take care of, at least so I've heard.
>B:has competitors that are comparitively inferior, but numerically superior.
That's just wrong. The F-35 will be one of, if not the, most numerable planes on the planet. Plus, it is actually cheaper than several commonly used mainstays of certain air forces.
What puts the nail in the coffin is the US's insane air numbers. That won't change with the F-35.
Blue is US
Brown is Russia
Red is China

>>35885435
You could load Micro Missiles in there!!

>>35885481
Because the Aardvark is an awkwardly shaped bomber that pretends to be a fighter.