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You raise an eyebrow at the Varistha's words. “Why do you act as if today is your last? I see no reason for this task to kill you. Considering how powerful you are, I would think something as simple as killing horrible monsters from another dimension would be a pleasant stroll through the gardens for you.”

The Varistha smirks, his tone amused when he speaks. “You've clearly never fought creatures from that hellish void before, Mikhael. Magic-” He pauses, running his fingers absentmindedly through his beard while he thinks. “It would be incorrect to say magic doesn't affect void creatures. Rather, magic affects them differently than it does you or I. Hurling a ball of flame into one of the six gaping maws of a three headed monstrosity won't do much of anything. It would more than likely strengthen the creature instead of weakening it. You'd be better served impaling it on a pillar of stone or stabbing it in its multifaceted eyes with shards of ice.”

The Varistha waves a hand dismissively. “What I'm trying to say is, void creatures are only truly harmed by physical means. Things like... oh, Earth magic's ability to weaken and erode objects, or Water magic's ability to freeze to blood in one's veins don't do much of anything to creatures. Nor do any effects, at least any effects I know of.”

You still don't really see how that could be much of a problem for the Varistha. If he's as powerful as he claims to be, being 'limited' to stabbing things with ice, stone, and metal spikes is hardly a limit at all. That's how you've battled most of your opponents anyway. “I still don't see why that would mean your death. I don't even see that a particular difficult limitation to work around, if I'm being honest.”

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The Varistha shakes his head. “Well, it's not as if stabbing them once or twice, or thirty seven times is enough to kill a creature of the void. Their bodies are rarely fully corporeal, as ours are. They can change their forms at will and usually heal at an astonishing rate. The only way to truly kill one is to rip its heart, its 'Core' out of... well, wherever it lies. Each creature is different, you understand.”

You narrow your eyes at the Varistha suspiciously. “How do you know all this? You speak as if you've got a lot of experience battling these creatures.”

The Varistha shrugs nonchalantly. “When you live as long as I have, Mikhael, you come to learn things about the reality we'll inhabit for the majority of our existence.” The majority of our existence? Only the majority? “Shapeshifting, semicorporeal, unkillable monstrosities from beyond time are far from the strangest beast I've come across. However, I think battling a few dozen at once ought to be enough to finally put an end to me. Besides, the price grows higher and higher to maintain my sanity. Now is as good a time as any to pass into Pani's embrace.”

>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.
>Thank the Varistha and see him off, then retrieve the gift he's left for you in the gardens. This seems a bit beyond your ken.
>Write-in

>>35756302

>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.

Today might be a good day to die, but tomorrow might be even better. Why not take a little help and find out?

>>35756302
What was the chineses cartoon that distracted you, Soma?
anyway
I kind of want to go with him because experience, loot, adventure, but I don't want to do it because death, pain, void beasts.
Are you here, Diarca-senpai?

>>35756302
I actually forgot how non-threatening the Varistha looked.

>>35756386
Knights of Sidonia. It's p good. Art style is weird but I dig it. Plot is kinda interesting. Setting is too.

>>35756415
He's just your friendly neighborhood thousand year old commando grandpa magician.

>>35756302
>>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.

>>35756368

Also, if he's that bad, why doesn't he just go with us to find the machine that's supposed to clear our mind? We could both use it, and having a demigod help us reach it can only be a good thing!

So, enchantment ideas?

I want a warm container that is bigger on the inside for the egg but we don't exactly have necessary runes for that.

>>35756302
>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.
I want to see the death of a god.

>>35756302
>Thank the Varistha and see him off, then retrieve the gift he's left for you in the gardens. This seems a bit beyond your ken.
>big bad var-var the great is telling us this is dangerous
Uh no, have fun, not dying seems more fun.

>>35756434
>watching the anime
>not reading the manga for delicious Nihei art style, body horror, and scenery porn
Don't be a fucking pleb, Soma. This is the sort of pleb that doesn't even read Nihei's other stuff, Mizukami Satoshi's works, or Dorohedoro.

>>35756486
>Contain+Fire on the outside of the container
>Create+Sustain+Large Fire on the inside of the container
Might work?

>>35756302
>>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.
May as well commit.
Also ask about the haician sabre/ring/armor. pull all that shit out and tell him to give us some knowledge about fighting them.

>>35756302
>>Thank the Varistha and see him off, then retrieve the gift he's left for you in the gardens. This seems a bit beyond your ken.
We have done enough. Time to get our shit, hopefully not get arsed to deal with the whole kill the shah thing or at least get it over with without trouble, and get water grandmastery.

>>35756302
This gonna be our next mask isn't it?
All signs point to bad idea, but we do it anyway

>>35756443

I approve of this idea.

Maybe go with to try to take out the portal, then go eject a dead god from our head and fix his sanity.

>>35756302
>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.

I wanna help him, plus we can probably learn some moves.

I wonder if we can sell/haggle/barter our knowledge of Enchanting to the primal spirit

>>35756585
If shit gets too bad we can just pop a potion and ghost out of there.

>>35756594
No.

>>35756542
We can make a container with warmth easily enough. The problem is making it a container that will make it easy to move the egg (bigger on the inside and lighter than it actually is). Still, when we have time we should at least make a simple warm container for the kid. It is as good a place as any to start enchanting and it is actually something practical.

>>35756585
I called it last thread, we die before we even get chrys a divorce. I didn't expect it to be now, but it still counts

>>35756613
You do realize Void creatures fight with magic, and magic can hurt us? Also, that'd include leaving all our shit there in the middle of battle.

>>35756542
How will we get the egg out without burning ourselves? How will we turn it off when not in use?

>>35756302

Soma, could we use fighting a bunch of void monsters at once with water magic as our meditation for grand master?

>>35756648
Fire is not necessarily BLAZE ALL TO HELL MAGMA HOT hot.

>>35756594
No

>>35756615
Makes us go crazy
Won't be using it anytime soon
Probably likely can get it again from another spirit
Isn't a fucking Ancient Dragons phlyacta whatever

>>35756653
I'm 99% sure we'd die if we tried that.
The other 1% is just getting crippled but getting out alive without making GM.
We don't even know Point Defense perfectly, for fuck's sake. I sure hope we can stay at the temple after the Varistha dies, though.

>>35756688
>Makes us go crazy
It doesn't cause us to go crazy.

Guys, guys... Why the fuck do you want to go on with this suicidal mission? This will be Banished Quest Namek Take 2. Only deadlier.

>>35756653
Not unless you knew how to meditate in battle.

>>35756368
>>35756437
>>35756487
>>35756554
>>35756590
>Go with the Varistha

>>35756502
>>35756572
>Thank him, get gift.

Writin'.

>>35756736
They want the possible loot from the tower and other things.

>>35756736
Because they're all retarded and can't seem to take a hint.

>>35756688
It doesn't.
We will be as soon as we have some free time.
Would most definitely be much more trouble than it's worth and we would definitely give more than we take just to get even on the knowledge.
Yes. Instead it is something we can actually use.

>>35756736
Because I want to watch the end of a god.
I also think it'd be a good time to work on our heat telescope.

>>35756760
>>35756774
>muh strawman
>muh "everyone who disagrees with me is wrong attitude"

Yep, it's Banished quest alright.

>>35756760
They do realize half the tower is rubble and the other half is being guarded by void monsters. That they have no chance in hell of ever killing. What are we at 32 vys max? Var has like 1000 and he thinks a dozen will kill him.

>>35756753
So, I propose we do not actually go into the island but stay on the sea nearby and focus on mdeitating to make fuck huge pillars of ice to snipe the creatures or otherwise just rain icy hell on them.

>>35756302
>>Insist on accompanying the Varistha to close the portal to the void, despite the personal risk to yourself.

>>35756736

It could work out pretty well. We'll see some crazy shit, probably learn from it, get some loot, and hopefully save a demigod's life. Assuming he lives we could have an easy path to sanity.

That said I would rather just spend some time meditating and shit, but we never seem to have any down time any more.

>>35756714
Wasn't there some shit about fucking with reality and convincing the world that.this X object like a pencil should be on fire but doesn't burn that messes witj the enchanter?

Im also pretty sure-ish that it was mentioned most enchantets are insane hermits

>>35756853
>and then mik wasted vys not helping and just drawing attention to himself
Stab it a thousand times, it ain't gonna die

>>35756834
I don't get it either. I don't even get why we are being given this option. Varistha is more powerful than we could imagine and he thinks he'll die while getting rid of these creatures. Comparing powers and skills, Mik should be very lucky if he can take out one or two of them.

>>35756753
this is a horrible idea

>>35756891
Being crazy make you better at it. But practicing it does not necessarily make one go crazier.

>>35756828
>good time to work on magnification
>which needs meditating
>which takes hours
wow anon, nice logic you have there

>>35756898
Yeah, actually going on the island and fighting them up close is much safer option, right?

>>35756932
It would be funny if the old man just says..
You know what-
And we wake up a 2 days later.
We find out that the island is sunken. And the old guy is presumed dead.

Soma, why are all your plot hooks like this?

>>35756924
>take out one or two
You mean survive battling one long enough for the Varistha to save our asses?
Also, everytime I type Varistha I'm thinking of barrista.

>>35756972
How about not going at all, ever

>>35756924
He thinks he'll win but that fight will be enough to finish him. He also doesn't ant to survive the battle.

Also he doesn't know exactly how many there are.

>>35757028
Great idea. Now take back time and convince that half a dozen anons. You are full of great ideas.

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>>35757005
Whaddya mean, Anon?

>>35756834
The tower is intact.

It's the facility that is half rubble.

>>35757061
>tfw we keep doing stupid shit and nearly dying
>tfw we keep expecting something different to happen

Who else thing at least 1 party member will die for sure this time?

>>35756960
>>which needs meditating
>>which takes hours
>wow anon, nice logic you have there
we already have magnification.. We can set up to try and be Varistha's calvary. With all of us backing him up. He should have a better chance at coming back alive.
Also we should gather up all our shit. and tell him to wait off 2-3 days.
Have prof work up a rank in fire. gain 1-2 insights in earth.
Chysa Forcus on Earth.
Darzi water/earth.
SK has his shit.
Alchemist can focus on water and nature. watching our back and healing us.

>>35756834
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/35694868/images/1414024336886.png
The tower is in fact intact.

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>>35757061

>>35757061
Great I now have a mental image of what you look like

>>35757114
No no no.
I want to observe from preferably a mile away.

>>35757061
>tfw mik is ded
Well lq next thread I guess

>>35757095
Mik isn't insane.
>We are.
Soma gave us the option to walk away from this.
We choose to head directly into the dragons lair.
And shit in it's favorite cup.

>>35757114
>bringing our party to death island
how about fucking no
We don't have magnification either.
And he's leaving now because the portal moves and the mroe time passes, the more void creatures there'll be to kill.

>>35757114
I'm pretty sure we don't have magnification.
Prof working up fire is useless for this fight.
And I'm not sure if the Varistha is willing to wait, nor if his deal with the water spirit will last that long.

>>35757197
I wouldn't mind this.

Wow, why the fuck would we want to go anywhere near that shithole, at least until var-var clears it all out? Like what the fuck why would we ever do this? We've absolved any debts we might have had to him, and then some on top

>>35757061
I hope chrys is smart enough to grab mik and force him not to go. Either by knocking him out or just bear hugging him

>>35757271
Loot.
Learning from the master.
Experience in battling void monsters.
Watching the death of a great man.
Loot.

>>35757270
Neither would I but I know lots of people prefer BQ over LQ, and soma's senpai has almost caught up

>>35757271
Because we are insane could be the only possible IC expalanation I guess. I can't wait to see everyone in the party blame Mik for his retardation after it all goes to shit.

>>35757311
Death
Death
Death
Death
Death

>>35757311
Also, we did cause all this shit, we're at least a little responsible for cleaning this shit up.

>>35757311
But we can loot easy as piss in a weeks time when everything isn't trying to fight off Ricky's bigger brother
>>35757319
I just don't get it

Anyone who voted for going, can you explain what the hell reason you had?

>>35757311
>Watching the death of a great man.
Mik ain't that great yet anon.

>>35757343
Pussy.
Pussy.
Pussy.
Pussy.
Pussy.

>>35757351
And we've absolved that and then some by giving the spirit the phylactery. We've done the responsible thing already

>>35757357
>Anyone who voted for going, can you explain what the hell reason you had?
>>35757311
>>35757351
And it sounds like it's filled with fun and opportunity.

>>35757380
>come on pussy just pull the trigger

You open your mouth to speak, but the Varistha cuts you off before you're able. “You can't come with me, Mikhael. You're a child, yet to enter your third decade of life. It would weigh heavily on my conscience should you die in some foolish attempt to aid me in this endeavor. I go alone, and I don't come back.”

You draw yourself up to your full height, pointing a finger accusingly at the Varistha. “I'll have you know I'm hardly a defenseless babe! I'm very nearly a Grandmaster, I've explored a dimension not our own, I've made deals for power and knowledge with long forgotten spirits, and an Entity seeking to mimic the gods themselves dwells inside my mind! If I'm a child, I'm the strangest child ever born into this Earth!”

The Varistha grins, spreading his hands out in a pleading gesture. “See reason, Mikhael. I'm a Grandmaster five times over. I've spent twelve centuries accumulating knowledge and power. I've dealt extensively with all manner of spirits, acted as a mediator in conflicts most men will never even know exist. I was alive to see the ancient ruins that dot the landscape built. I believe I will meet my death on that forsaken rock in the Anthosian Sea. You're simply not ready to face a conflict on this scale and I will not-” He emphasizes the word strongly, putting force behind it. “-allow you to throw your life away on this task. That's the end of this discussion. I'll allow you to come with me as far as the docks, but from there I will go on my own.”

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Man I ain't worried bout nothing

He turns sharply and strides away, putting an effective end to the conversation. Darzi sighs in obvious relief behind you. You whip around to shoot her a glare before stomping off after the Varistha. “Is there anything I can say to change your mind? Anything at all!”

The Varistha shrugs, the door swinging open in front of him as he strides towards it. “Not a thing, I'm afraid. My mind is made up Mikhael.” As the five of you, your companions having followed you out of the chamber, make your way through the narrow, winding corridor the torches that illuminated the narrow crevice wink out in your wake, plunging the hall into darkness behind you.

>Try to convince him, really give it your all.
>Let the issue drop, you'll just have to follow him in secret.
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
>Write-in

>>35757441
>>Let the issue drop, you'll just have to follow him in secret.
This will be great.

>>35757441
>Write-in
Cry.

>>35757441
>Write-in

Meditate

Ancient Chamber? I smell bonuses amd PROMOTIONS and alsoa whiff of mind rape just a whiff

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...

I picked an interesting thread to start participating.

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
>the options are even trying to appeal to the lootfags
And here I thought soma wanted us to kill ourselves

>>35757441
>>Write-in
>Ask if there's anyway we can observe his battle from the temple

>>35757474
Diarca-senpai?

>>35757441
>>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
Let's be honest, that's really why we want to go. And he has a point. Would be nice to try and watch using magnification if we can though.

>>35757491

Hello, it me.

>>35757441
>>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
And his corpse

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
We can't let his death overshadow our own.
It's too soon.

>>35757441
>Write-in
Meditate. Should we try to get our grandmaster here?

>>35757491
Who's that?
Keep in mind that I don't memorize QM names.

>>35757474
imouto or diarca?

>>35757441
>>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
He's 100% right, let's not make his death be weighed down by our own.
also WE ARE NOT BRINGING THE PARTY NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS

>>35757441
>>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...

ask for the Haician stuff. before he leaves.

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...
>Write-in
Also ask him how he plans to close the void hole.

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...

>>35757516
He runs Totemist quest, which seems to have an overlapping playerbase. you can find it on sup

>>35757441
Seconding
>>35757548
And
>>35757554

>>35757516
Totemist QM

>>35757526
That's not teengirl enough grammar for imouto.

>>35757485
Second

>>35757441
Can we tell him we wish him enough good luck not to have to throw his life away.

>>35757441
>>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot late
>>35757548
Ask about out haician gear.
GUYS...this is quite possibly one of the only people on this world that could tell us all about the haician gear.
Along with some tricks he picked up along the way.

Ask about a way to not get all weak once we take off the armor. or some special tricks with the armor like tweaks or something.

On the purely pragmatic side of things I found it odd people would want to go to an island the old guy said would harm his sanity despite himself being very capable in mind/nature and some metal magic, given our... problems. And now I'll read the thread.

>>35757619
Seconding

>>35757619
the weakness is because we're not strong enough and not used to the armor.

>>35757631
>very capable in mind/nature and some metal magic
He's literally a GM in all the elements, mate.

>>35757441
>Maybe you should listen to the Varistha? You can probably go back for the loot later...

Seconding >>35757619 as well

>>35757631
Get back under the desk imouto-chan

Seems pretty clear that you'll be listening to the Varistha. Along with some additional questions. Writin'

>>35757619
>Ask about out haician gear.
While true, it seems in bad taste to ask him about trivial things while he's gearing up to die. maybe part of what's in the chest is a manual?

Can we give him the spice or, any of our potions?

>>35757662
Aye. Tacitly it's even odder given that fact.
As if people forgot our insanity...

>>35757721
If the spice would help him, I say we hand it over.

>>35757677
Will we do it sort fo stubbornly and dejectedly, so we're cuter while doing it? Also, show concern and shit.

>>35757721
>>35757739
You're rustling my shekels anons.

>>35757721
I'm willing to part with a few potions, hell i'm sure we have something we can give him to help.

>>35757677
Give him some spice

>>35757739
I'd second this if only to get rid of the damn thing.

>>35757721
>>35757739
I don't know if giving the demigod the demigod-drug is a good idea, since it makes the user more insane

>>35757757
>implying we are giving him all of the spice, and not just a hit of it
>implying the tight wads would allow us to take the shit now any way.

>>35757802
Sure we can't take it. Doesn't mean it doesn't have research applications.

>>35757790
Good thing his sanity was restarted.

>>35757721
I'd wager he has a stash of potions & such squirreled away somewhere.

>not giving the spice to our precious Khajinā.

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>>35757619
>Ask about a way to not get all weak once

>>35757802
a hit is fine if he thinks it won't result in half the continent blinking out of existence and he wants it, but don't fucking force it, don't even argue for it, at most offer, but for the record I'm voting against this.
>>35757831
>restarted
No anon, it was just reduced.

>>35757819
They spoke against saying that its too dangerous of a weapon.
>>35757839
He said most of his things belong to the temple and that he is leaving his stash to us.

Quick vote while I write.

>Offer the entire vial of spice
>Don't offer the spice.

I say entire vial, because it's not like he could take a hit and then just go about his day. Once you dose up on spice shit gets weird quick.

>>35757862
>Don't offer the spice.

>>35757684
>maybe part of what's in the chest is a manual?
even if there is.
Like our sword. Soldiers add tweaks to weapons that make them more effecient or "better"
with 1000 years of experience.
And coutnless battles with that armor. He is better than a manual. And likely knows a tweak or two. like mixing certain parts together get an awesome effect that doesn't usually happen.
Considering there are 14 if i remember correctly effects that the armor has. theres alot of potential for it.

>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice

>>35757831
>sanity.exe has stoped working

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>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice

captcha related

>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice
Fuck it, i want the old bastard to survive.

>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice

It can save his life and help him the portal out of existence

Why the fuck not?

>>35757862
>Give him a puff of the good shot.

Wait a second.

Who the fuck is gonna replace him as the head monk?

>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice

>>35757862
>Don't offer spice
I want to give him the vial.
But in case he does take the spice.
he will have 2000 vys. A feeling of omni potence.
And if he kills the void monsters. and gets down from his high.
I highly doubt even the the 3 strongest Vatis in the shah's kingdom together could take him out.

>>35757917
I'm sure there's a system in place, it's not like they're a bunch of homeless guys and he's their leader. Plus with the pirates gone they can handle protection themselves.

>>35757862
>>Offer the entire vial of spice
Let the man get blazed before he dies

>>35757939
Eh
>>35757862
>Offer the entire vial of spice

>>35757939
>>35757871
>Winners don't do drugs!

>>35757880
>>35757897
>>35757898
>>35757905
>>35757913
>>35757924
>>35757948
>>35757950
>Yo nigga hit this shit.

Seems pretty clear cut.

>>35757917
If he lives guess whos going to probably get tutored

If he dies idduno

>>35757917
The even more conservative dickbag monk that's looked at us with disdain since we arrived and will kick us out as per his new system once the current Varistha dies.

>>35757939
The after effects of the spice should be enough to kill him then. Remember how we went -15. And he won't have anyone close by to help him recover.

>>35757978
>Implying we don't tell him that and come flying in to the rescue on the Robutt later

>>35757978
>now that Mik knows he's resigned to death he gives him the drug that will guarantee it

>>35758010
Nar. We dress up and drink the incorporeality potion and act as his 'guardian spriti'.

>>35758043
>dress up just to lose our clothing
IT HAS IN CORPOREALITY RIGHT IN ITS NAME

NOBODY SHOULD BE FORGETTING THAT DETAIL

>>35758059
We use illusions.

>>35757917
Us.

Or did you forget that the guy with the biggest dick gets the hat?

>>35758088
Is that how the catholics do it?

>>35758059
>look at my diiick varvar look at it swing

>>35758098
Does the pope shit in the woods?

>>35757978
Your vision is fading. Your lungs ache. Pain shoots up and down your right side. You vaguely feel two cold hands pressing against your chest, and in the hazy synaesthetic blur that passes for your vision a bolt of lighting shoots from the grey mass hovering above you.

The world goes black.
>Vys Pool: ([1],[0])
nope he will not die. And with 1 vys as a water grand master for centuries. He could likely heal him self to the point where he passes out and comes to in a few minutes with that 1 vys.

>>35758098
Nah that's how the Ancient Samjans do it

He better refuse that shit, or at most take 1 hit, but I seriously doubt he'll take it, I think he wants to die, and he finally has a worthy cause.

>>35758121
I really have no clue what you're trying to accomplish with that post.

>>35758121
Hey retard, that was fulvia shocking us back to life

>>35758121
If you couldn't tell, what you just quoted was Fulvia bringing us back to life with magic defibrillation.

>>35758154
Eh it's the thought that counts I can also reason that Mik feels guilty somewhat for sending him to his death

>>35758121
The verdict should come through in the next few-”
>Vys Pool: (-9/[0])
>You're suffering from Spice Withdrawl!
You are quoting after we got healed by the Archmagos.

>>35758180
>>35758176
>>35758121
people with higher Vys pools don't suffer the breakdown of body that we did.

>>35758198
>sending him to his death
Where the hell are you pulling this from, the guy wants to die, nothing here is miks fault

>>35758244
Uh the hole reactor exploding into Vood shit was literally our fault

>>35758244
Except the portal to the void created by a lack of foresight and willingness to explore the islands facilities more. I've learned the lesson anon, have you?

>>35758244
Except, you know, the whole tore-a-hole-in-reality thing.

>>35758261
course not

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>>35758259
>Exploding into Vood
>Into Vood
>Vood

Fuck I hate having big fingers should be

Void

>>35758259
>>35758261
>>35758279
And mik is forcing him to go fix it? No, he's not, old man is doing it himself

>>35758299
I feel your pain anon. The modern world was not made for those whose spirit animal is mount everest.

>>35758299
and punctuation and holes in head brain stuff :^00

>>35758334
Aye. He's fixing the problem we created himself because he's the only local person who can do it and cares enough to.
We did pay a price to allow him to be able to do it, but that doesn't rescind the fault of action.

How about we have a quick chat with Ricky-boo and ask him how we can kill his unfriendly brothers? And attune one of the brooches we got when he snacked on the guys on the beach?

>>35758379
Still haven't asked him if he actually got anything from those guys.

>>35758334
>throw a bomb into the village
>village chief goes to kick it away, dies in the process
>hurrdurr, not my fault, it was all his decision
Fuck yourself, his religion(which is also ours, by the way, you enormous twat) dictates that you should protect others if you can to a degree (since this isn't a problem learning some magic could help with).
He welcomed us, gave us sanctuary, didn't snitch on us, taught us, and we blew a hole into the void next to his town.

>>35758370
But he did want to die a valiant death as his lifespan sanity wise was reaching the end.

>>35758401
No, it's more like there was an enemy army right outside the village, and in the process of us destroying the village a bomb from the army somehow landed in it.

>>35758424
Yes. But that's something he very likely knew he wanted before we were even born. This is just the opportunity created by some monks thoughtlessness.

>>35758334
You guys are assuming he will take the drug. Just because we offer it doesn't mean he will take it.
Being in the war he likely knows exactly what it does.* He may have taken it*
His friend* i think it's his friend* took a few gulps of it. so he knows the effects or at least what it does to you.

>>35758441
Army, not village.

>>35758441
An army that was supposed to be engaged by the village army.
The army we went to engage on our own, in secret.
The army we destroyed by panicking and settling for the first method we found.
A bomb that is way more dangerous than the army itself was.

>>35758459
He gon die whether he take drug or leave it.

>>35758401
To be fair, he knew of the pirates for years and did nothing besides flexing his muscles from time to time, surely he might have brokered a deal of no aggression with them in the past but whatever deal made would have to be called off when they blew up the ship the old Shah was on.

He made the bed, then Mik came and rustled the sheets or something...

>>35758493
>A bomb that is way more dangerous than the army itself was.
debateable

>>35758493
>more dangerous than multiple vatis and a fleet that wiped out the entire shah army
No.
Also do remember he was just gonna let the pirates terrorize his people for all eternity

>>35758459
>his friend
I still love that bit.
>friend takes 20 hits of spice, meditates for a week
>comes out as water GM, immediately proceeds to destroy enemy platoons mercilessly, then dies

>>35758534
He didn't meditate, he was high for a week, most likely fighting those platoons.

>>35758517
It is definitely more immediately dangerous to the life of the villagers. Whether the pirates would have had worse long-term consequences is debatable.
>>35758530
>No.
Yes. He could've taken the pirates without sacrificing himself, and the void doesn't want to recruit, only to kill.
>terrorize
He repelled them from attacking the village itself and kept them to only take a fishing boat every once in a while, that's a pretty good deal.

>>35758567
see
>>34830512
>“An associate of mine huffed an entire vial of spice and meditated for a week straight. When she emerged, she was changed. Where once my associate was a kindhearted, gentle woman she was now vicious and bloodthirsty, concerned only with the next battle. The next conquest. She died a week later, facing off alone against a Rhynian golem easily larger than a noble's villa.

>>35758645
If she'd studied Fire she probably could have taken it.

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You grumble under your breath. You can't believe the Varistha would be so dismissive! He's running off to get himself killed and he refuses any sort of aid. Even if you've only known him for a short time, the Varistha seems a good man and he seems to lead a good life. Why he'd be so eager to essentially kill himself you can't comprehend.

As you progress through the narrow corridors you slip a hand into your cloak, withdrawing the vial of spice. It glitters blue in the torch light, and for just the barest instant you're tempted to press the vial to your lips and breathe in deeply. However, the urge passes quickly enough and you hold up the vial for the Varistha to see the powdery substance roiling within the glass container. “At least let me offer you this. It's a vial of Spice I bought from a wandering merchant.”

The Varistha pauses, turning to look from you to the vial. You see a spark of interest in his eye, curiosity. Perhaps even desire? “A wandering merchant? You mean that bastard Sadik?” He holds out a hand and you press the vial into his palm. He holds it up to the flame of a torch and watches as the substance inside begins to leap and swirl through the vial with surprising violence, the sound of the powder slamming against the glass container ringing through the narrow crevice you're currently navigating.

The Varistha shakes his head. “Genuine Spice. It's been a long time since I've had a dose.” He brings it away from the flame and the powder inside quickly slows to its original, languid pace. “You know, you'll eventually lose the blue stain in your eyes should you stay away from the stuff long enough. I did, at least.” He slips it into a pocket on his robe, nodding. “Thank you, Mikhael. It will serve well as a last resort, should I need it.”

(1/3 or 4)

The journey passes in silence until you finally reach the crossroads, one path leading to the gardens and the other to the temple fortress, and in turn the village. The Varistha, much to your surprise, turns towards the gardens. You follow behind behind him. “Are you not headed for the docks?”

You think the Varistha shakes his head, but you're not sure. With the torches extinguished you've been plunged once more into darkness, forced to keep a hand against the wall to navigate. “No, first I will retrieve my armor from my quarters. My weapons as well. Then I will make my way to the docks. If I am going to face my end, I wish to face it as the warrior I once was.”

You suppose you can understand that. You can't help but wonder if, someday, you'll be lecturing some young Vatis as you march off to your own death. To be frank, you doubt you'll ever manage to live as long as the Varistha has. “About that armor, just what is it that makes it so powerful? Why have you relied on it all these years? I mean, my own set's properties are astonishingly useful, but I would've thought that twelve centuries of life would allow you the opportunity to find something better.”

The Varistha's response is cautious. “I wouldn't feel it proper to discuss some of the armor's properties in present company, but among the literature I've left you are my memoirs, my journals, and my notes. You'll find a list of all the various uses the armor has among my notes. It's an extremely versatile piece of equipment, though for the less experienced it can be dangerous to use. That feeling of weakness you've mentioned to me after removing the spike from your neck? It's and indicator that you're reserves are not trained well enough to handle the armor's effects, but they're trained well enough that the armor does not immediately incapacitate you. Continue growing your reserves and eventually you'll no longer feel weakened after use, though there are other negative effects as well.”
(2/3 or 4)

>>35758708
I'm starting to think that picture is supposed to be some kind of airship.

The Varistha waves a hand dismissively. “As I said, you'll find it all in my notes.”

A thought occurs to you as the entrance to the gardens appears ahead of you. “Say, who will replace you as Varistha? I must admit, I'm not particularly familiar with the chain of command within a monastery.”

The Varistha pauses to consider for a moment. “I would like to say Siksaka Herbad, but I believe he passed on to be with the Empress... oh, it must have been a decade ago.” He sighs, shaking his head briefly. “The current Siksaka is a woman by the name of Riya. I doubt you've met her, she's been in El-Amin to serve with the Amatya.” Amatya, you recognize, is the term used to refer to the High Priest of Pani, it means roughly 'Minister', referring to the Amatya's roll as an advisor and priest to the Shah and his household.

You emerge into the gardens and conversation is cut off. There are few monks lounging by the pond or wandering the gardens at this hour, most ought to be seeing to their chores, but there are several who are likely either off duty today or taking a break from their labors. They either boy to the Varistha or give the traditional sign of respect, touching their fore and middle fingers to their forehead and then their chest.

>Leave the Varistha to his task, retrieve the cache he's left for you while you're here.
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
>Follow the Varistha as far as the meditation chamber, then break away. It's likely a bad idea to retrieve the cache while there are others present.
>Write-in

>>35758738
I'm pretty sure it is, but it works for my purposes.

>>35758752
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
This reminds me of my great grandmother. I have the sads now.

>>35758752
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
He's essentially going off to die.
And then after that we can grab his stuff.

>>35758752
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.

Ask him what he knows about dragons.

>>35758752
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
Ask him how he plans to close the portal.
I'm sure we're going to need to know this in the future.

>>35758752
>>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
Also ask him if there is any way we might observe the battle.

>>35758858
Man that sounds real morbid.

>>35758858
>>35758833
>>35758857
These

Did he give us the precise location of that insanity curing machine or was it just "it's in Elaudia, look for it there".

>>35758833
>>35758857
>>35758858
plan info pump is go

>>35758933
It's in The Deep Desert.

>all these hints talking about how good the magic armour is.
To think people once suggested throwing it away.

>>35758933
Technically it's "Venture forth into the desert of TPK young Mikheeel to kuer thy insanity."
I may be paraphrasing though.

>>35758752
>>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.
ask about the ring and the haician sabre.

>>35758961
>>35758968
oh right its in the desert not the jungle

>Ask about plans, dragons, and observing the battle
>Follow him as far as he'll allow.
Writin'

>>35758752
>>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.

>>35758933
>>35758858
>>35758857
>>35758833
Gotta get these last questions in.

There's somethings that only a 1000 year old 5 time GM would know.

>>35758752
>Follow the Varistha as far as he'll allow, it hardly seems proper to just leave him to his thoughts.

Ask about something mudane and have a normal conversation for once like his favorite food and meditation spot and that type of stuff

>>35759031
That'd be nice of Mik. Shame he's a complete asshole.

>>35759031
>>35759014
Let's end it with this. After the other questions.

>>35758973
>>35758858
>>35758857
>>35758833
these
>>35758962
I know right.
I've been saying this is the best armor to use for quite some time. Knew it was wizardly.

That being said, We have a few things to study meditate on.
Study body = more damage/heal better
Meditate on vys = better vys control* should help with all casting get us closer to vys meta & help with armor knocking us out.
Metal = we need a rank or two higher. throw us some mental shields.

>>35759014
Ask a light heart question like how much pussy did he tap in his prime.

>>35759014
Why won't you let us get an answer from him for the rings/sabre/bag.
bag don't thing it'll do much..
sabre eh..
ring wouldn't be surprise'd if it gives us mark or something.
>ask old man about these things

>>35759109
I bet he's a sodomite

>>35759109
...though he came from the time when vatis were neutered.

>>35759075
>Study body = more damage/heal better
>Meditate on vys = better vys control* should help with all casting get us closer to vys meta & help with armor knocking us out.
we have many better ideas. like the massive list of techniques, or getting Master in Fire, or our tons of effects and Metas, or the elements.

>>35759130
You do know the meaning of neutered right anon?

>>35759109
Ask if he fucked any of the shah's wives in his whole life time.

>>35759075
>>35759138
All a part of "Git gud desert prep weekend" anons.

>>35759130
You do realize he's a water GM?

>>35759152
>weekend
you mean week-month

at least a week though, maybe more like 2-3 weeks. Hopefully a month.

>Go to water temple to chill and gain grandmaster insight
>Kill the oldest and one of the most powerful man in the world

He's the shah we supposed to kill isn't he?

>>35759193
Of the shah will insult his memory and we'll just flip and execute him.

>>35759193
Uhhh. There's that Shah that went missing a long time ago...

Have we been tricked?

>>35759193
>He was the Thousand Year Emperor all along!

>>35759212
or

>>35759218
Mik, the dynasty eraser, have a nice ring to it doesn't it?

>>35759259
We're like bad luck or something.

>>35759270
not for us we're not

>>35759292
HIGHLY debatable.

>>35759327
We always come out fine. Usually better than before.

>>35759338
>usually

>>35759338
are you kidding? We are rapidly losing our sanity

>>35759384
We've been fine so far and we don't even ahve any Metal yet.

We just gotta be careful until we can get Expert-Master in Metal.

>>35759270
Turns out Mik soul is cursed to bring ruins to empires he reincarnate into/visits.
Rhynians got #rekt because Mercurius Decimus Cyprian(turns out we took our old name without knowing) was born a few decades before the fall.
Same with the Hiacian, and all the civs before them.

>>35759418
>Mik is a reincarnating embodiment of ruin.
Damn, that'd be badass.

>>35759418
Now that would be a good twist.

>>35759418
I wouldn't mind this at all.

>>35759410
>we've been fine
I'm starting to think you consider everything below 10/10 insanity to be fine.

>>35759418
So, we're the John Constantine of this Era? Fucking shit up horribly while saving the world? Check. Friends often paying a price because we're an inattentive prick, after which we have to dive in head-first to save them? Check. Jewing spirits out of ancient magics we barely understand or know how to use? Check. Kind of, well, totally an asshole? Check.

Just think back to the Bar event. You know it's true.

>>35759479
Pretty sure he meant we were 7/10 up not down.

>>35759138
You do realise meditating on VYS makes EVERYTHING more effective. and is not situational.
Study body, something we've been meaning to do. When we learned of the applications. Would mean we heal more efficiently. Making something that may cost us a shit ton of vys. Like repairing a maimed arm in the middle of battle available and not taking up the whole of our vys.
Also Mik would know where the vital points of all humanly entities. Making us that much more effective with any magic/weapon.

I personally want slow/speed. slow being the more usefull one in my opinion. But the first two are high on being important don't try to undermine them.

>>35759504
>asshole
Loose morals and emotionally detached an asshole does not make
And stop acting like the bar was some big bad thing, we burned down a gang run bar, so horrid

>>35759551
>still not admitting the bar incident was bad
And Mik is an asshole, a playful one, but an asshole.

>>35759551
Did you check the character sheet? The Jerk attribute got deleted and changed to Asshole.
Get BTFO scrub.

Being a jew here. But guys. The spice had more than just a few doses left.
How about we take a few out, let the alchmist and morgian w.e the fuck her name is to study it. and see if they can replicate em. let morgiana study incorporeal bottle see if she knows how to make em.

>>35759579
I'm more concerned about Intelligent being changed to Clever, to be honest.

>>35759565
The bar isn't bad, but the nuke and leaving the survivors was.
>>35759579
Wasn't it always asshole?

>>35759604
Oh shit I didn't notice that one.
Soma is pretty sneaky.

>>35759604
>Clever
Its funny since thats the complete opposite of how we play him.

>>35759624
I only noticed it because I wanted to bring up the fact that Mik was intelligent as a counter-argument, but found that it had changed.

>>35759524
Do you have any idea how hard it would be to get an insight on VYS? It's a step towards a Lost Meta. It'd be easier to get Nature GM from scratch.

And you're playing up the studying of the human body. It won;t help us all that much, might reduce the cost of some healing, but it has few combat applications especially since we're moving away from water for combat.

Not to mention that we need fresh bodies for that. Fresh. You have any kind of idea the shitfit our companions would throw over that?

I'd rather hit Master Fire. Then start working on Metal. Then maybe GM water Via the Blood Battles method. Then start cranking our our effects/Metas and techniques.

>>35759604
HAha, that just makes him more Constantine. Nobody claims he's smart, exactly, but he's cunnung/clever and tricksy as fuck. Also, probably insane.

>>35759666
Soma confirmed that one anon was on track for rediscovering vys
And body study is full of combat applications, stop being a retard and pay attention

>>35759666
Vys isn't lost and a meta is a meta, the DCs are the same (DC30 for complex). It's finding information so we know what to meditate on and how that's 2hard.

>>35759666
>blood battles
>not self-immolation
I didn't find the quickest way to Gm that doesn't involve hydras to do it with fucking puppetshows. That'd take weeks, anyway, and I don't know if the meditation has to be continuous.

>>35759752
>Soma confirmed that one anon was on track for rediscovering vys
On track too, It's still a massive undertaking that would require weeks and weeks of meditation and study.

>>35759801
According to thyself who has a bias against attempting it.

>>35759784
You do know that the self immolation will seriously harm our sanity, take several weeks, and only helps our healing and not our water control.

>>35759801
>It's still a massive undertaking that would require weeks and weeks of meditation and study

where the fuck do you people get this information that always backs up your points perfectly

>>35759838
University of headcanon

>>35759779
>Vys isn't lost
It was one of the three we could ahve asked the spirit for and we only know of 1 person still alive that knows it.

>>35759867
thanks for proving my point

>>35759837
Soma confirmed that it'd be a valid method of grandmastering water while also laying out a reminder that many vatis die in the process of trying to acquire GM. Also how our master would laugh that we set ourselves on fire to attain water grandmastery. It's probably a bad idea.

>>35759838
So you think recreating a lost meta is going to be a simple undertaking that we could just pop off in a couple of days? Recreating something that GMs have studied and tried to recreate since the fall? Something that can be considered on par with permanency?

>>35759801
srsly get your head out of your ass.
where are you pulling this from?
We already know what vys can do.
And some possibilities. In character. So Mik has some idea of it. He knows what it can do.
So I am sure it wouldn't be to crazy.
We also have a book on making meta's easier to master so once we read that we will get bonuses toward learning meta's and I assume a big bonus on normal effects.

>>35759837
>several week
It would take one week, the whole point is it's the quickest way we know. The other I'd be fine with is the flashfreeze/regen/repeat thing where we're a shifting mass of frostbite for days or weeks.

>>35759906
Yea, he also confirmed that the Blood battle idea would work too, not saying it wouldn't work or be funny. Just saying that i think it's a better option.

>>35759924
Do you want our Water control to be shit?

>>35759906
Soma said doing it in a place where we're surrounded by good water vatis (hinthint, the temple) would severely decrease the risk of death, though I admit it may not be good for our sanity, I think we need GM for the desert asap, and maybe we can get the spirit to help with insanity, since even though we bartered for a valiant death the Varistha survived(if he does)

This method has Healing in it via the sheer amount of blood we have to regenerate.

It has Water control obviously and works both on our multitasking and our precise control.

Lastly it provides the added bonus of giving us some seriously valuable combat experience just by how many and how diverse of fights he will be pulling off while meditating.

Soma said that creating the figures would take a couple of days. After that I imagine that the tournament wouldn’t take longer than 2-3 weeks if we kept the brackets constantly running.

Also minimal risk as the only danger we put our self in is in the creation phase and it’s pretty minor.

Soma confirmed it would work. I believe it is the most balanced, most beneficial, least risky, and one of the faster ways.

As a last little side note. If we happen to be near a city when we do this we can make it into games. Have the first couple days be free admissions due to the sheer amount of fights. But as it starts to narrow down we will start charging people for admission. Would be great entertainment.

>>35759947
>>35759924
I honestly think we should get to expert in metal before we try getting to GM water.
And get slow.
Slow + mental barrier. should atleast decrease the huge amount of crazy we may be getting for either option.

>>35759973
Do you think you can cheat the system and get high level healing and water control at the same time?
Soma confirmed our water control would be at base water GM levels, but our healing would be SS++ or something. Since we aren't a GM of anything yet, we don't know hwo the bonuses and maluses actually work, maybe they're so specific that we'd get a "you heal burns very well", maybe it's a "you heal everything very well", we just don't know.

>>35759999
A little copy paste form the Blood figurine method.

>>35760027
I'm fine with that, metal and some Nature, as well as getting Fire Master before water GM is A-okay with me.

>>35760027
Same

>>35760030
I think that some ways of obtaining GM will result in a better overall GM. Certain will give more bonuses than others.

Like instead of 10 points in healing and 0 in Water control we have 7 in each.

>>35759999
Nice digits, but I'm not sure if it's worth it to go through all that, I think even flashfreeze would be better, don't need to make a big fuss of it, and still helps with both healing and something to do with water control.

>>35760030
Prettys ure it's not just a set pick one or the other. There;s a reason he encouraged us to be creative with GM meditations.

>>35760094
Why not?

We'd also gain Some great combat experience.

Plus we have used Ice figurines many many times.

It also helps our Siege Games.

>>35760094
But we also might make huge coin from it as our game becomes popular!

We can also use it to spend some time on our friend's POV stories if Soma is into that. Might be a nice break.

>>35760122
If we're being creative
>suspend ourselves in some complicated way with ice/water
>create icicles above us
>shoot it through our body, heal
>repeat, try and see what effects the location of the pierce has
heal+control+anatomy?

Yo ebola is air borne now.

>>35760153
We could use the hole thing as an advertisement for Siege.

>>35760194
I wonder if we can have airborne poison?

>>35760177
That would take years Anon. Years.

>>35760222
We don't know that, anon, we could make some elaborate clockwork around us and keep it going, or make incredibly precise cuts/pierces and experiment with different types of ice (Soma confirmed we can do that).

>>35760194
Meh

>>35760216
We could use Water and/or Manipulate to make a diffuse cloud of the poison either suspended in air or in within water, then somehow get them to inhale?

>>35760177
that likely wouldn't give us GM.
and sounds like a sure as shit way to die.

>>35760272
Could work for range and traps.

>>35760216
I'm more interested in http://ask.fm/Quidam_Asinus/answer/118878458171 and its implications. logically, airborne poison could be fire(gases)+poison+slow or something, I guess, probably need water or create too.

>>35759999
So exactly which plan is this making blood/water golems? and fighting with them?

>>35760276
>that likely wouldn't give us GM
anon please, let's not get ahead of ourselves, neither of us is Soma

>>35760276
Not saying i agree with the method but pretty sure as long as we leave the head alone we'd be fine.

>>35760244
Would still take a really long time.

>>35760321
Blood fortress with enchantments? Once we get decent in enchanting of course.

>>35760309
>Here’s a Grandmaster idea.
First we drain our blood and replenish ourselves over and over again while using the drained blood to freeze into ice figures. Each figure will be different. Some will be smaller and faster, others larger and sturdier, they will all have different weapon and weapon combos. Each one will be unique. We create as many of these as we reasonably can, I’m guessing 3000-5000 as Soma said that it would require thousands. Then we have them fight each other in a bracketed tournament. It will take serious control and thinking to actually have that many in depth fights going on while still maintaining them frozen. As the tournament progresses the massive amounts of control we have been using will get further and further refined and the fights more and more intense and interactive between the frozen blood figures.

>>35760321
I don't think it'd take much longer than bloodfigurinebattles

>>35760309
>This method has Healing in it via the sheer amount of blood we have to regenerate.

>It has Water control obviously and works both on our multitasking and our precise control.

>Lastly it provides the added bonus of giving us some seriously valuable combat experience just by how many and how diverse of fights he will be pulling off while meditating.

>Soma said that creating the figures would take a couple of days. After that I imagine that the tournament wouldn’t take longer than 2-3 weeks if we kept the brackets constantly running.

>Also minimal risk as the only danger we put our self in is in the creation phase and it’s pretty minor.

>Soma confirmed it would work. I believe it is the most balanced, most beneficial, least risky, and one of the faster ways.

>As a last little side note. If we happen to be near a city when we do this we can make it into games. Have the first couple days be free admissions due to the sheer amount of fights. But as it starts to narrow down we will start charging people for admission. Would be great entertainment.

>We lost the chance of eating a dragons soul for fire GM.
I'm still a bit disappointed, we never got around to doing that.

>>35760343
>going full deadman wonderland blood control vatis
I want it.

>>35760365
I'm 87% sure that would have turned out horribly for us, and would not have been a method to GM even if it did not.

>>35760377
But deadman wonderland was pretty shit, especially towards the end.
Atmospheric vapor control>blood control

>>35760387
>not wanting dragon liche blood to flow through you
But, with all seriousness there is a way we could have found a way with the heart, like if we did the same for a hydra.

>>35760387
We would have turned into a walking Dragon phylactery

>>35760424
Has Soma confirmed this? I was under the impression the Hydra heart works because of the poison in it.

So does anyone else think that eventually absorbing The Entity and dominating it would our way to maintaining our Sanity indefinitely?

>>35760377
No you don't hell blood bending is GM levels of shit and it has a medium-hard DC.

>>35760447
Noooo.

>>35760431
Good way to make sure they don't kill us.

>>35760446
Basically said to find out.

>>I mean, maybe you could jury-rig a way to push poisoned vys into someone, but that would be complex enough to qualify as an experiment so I won't reveal how it might go.
I bet that'd need the Vys mate, and trying to do it without it would lead to progress towards rediscovering it.

>>35760448
He confirmed we could do it.

Also has minimal risk.

If you choose the easy way you will get the easy rewards.

>>35760447
Yeah, we just need to break out the mental S&M equipment.

>>35760343
thank you this explains it well.
>>35760362
fuck you.
>>35760343
This sounds like a great idea.
Also guys, while I think it's nice and all that you want to get water GM here. and it gives us a +4 bonus.

Would you guys be open to going back to the lake to try this out?
the +12 was game changing. And instead of fighting each other we could fight the countless fishmen in the lake and then try and take on the HUGE whale of a fish.
At least we know there there would be no struggle
with replenishing liquid, and no struggle to keep up with VYS required.
Just sayign could be a good idea.
We know how to get there, having mapped it before. we've a better idea where to go. and It shouldn't be a problem getting back there.

>>35760513
Those were all the same person.

Insulted and thanked in the same post

>>35760474
So he was tired of answering autistic asks and gave us a non-answer? I don't see how that confirms that there's a way.
>>35760498
easy way means shit-tier rewards
>>35760513
No.
The players didn't want to go back to Namek to save the world from a dragon invasion, we are not going back for some shitty meditation bonus either. I realize it's not a shitty bonus as far as bonuses go, but I don't care.

>>35760513
>going back to the mine

>>35760563
>The players didn't want to go back to Namek to save the world from a dragon invasion
likely not happening.
even if it is.. thats MILES above the elevator. that then goes miles down. and across to where the dragons could be.
Point being very worth it. Considering the whole party could get 2-3 insights in a day almost guaranteed. Also worth looking into VYS control.
Changing a 30-35 dice requirment into 18-23 makes for quite the impact.

>>35760563
>easy way means shit-tier rewards
That's what I was trying to get at

Soma is kill.

>>35760581
The lake was on a relatively safe level, not sure if that's the case anymore, but coming from the surface should be safer than coming where the portal would have transported us, as in no dragon cult, no giant spider, no anti mage&regular constructs, no ghost thing