>>35706160
You mentioned last week that you were doing all the stat calculations by hand, so I made a spreadsheet for you that would hopefully help out.

Openoffice format is here : https://www.dropbox.com/s/4y5epd6l12qbue2/Reborn%20Character%20Sheets%20v1.1.ods?dl=0

excel format is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgfbj9e1wz08e2j/Reborn%20Character%20Sheets%20v1.1.xls?dl=0

To use, copy a row that has a job in it, then rename it to whatever job you want and chance the level. Everything else should auto-populate and calculate. There's a template sheet that you can copy if you want to make new characters with one job row ready to use.

>>35706160
Aww fuckin yissss

>>35706160
HYPE

>>35706160
You didn't fuck up the OP. Good job.

>>35706206
ah thankyou so much, ill play with it on the weekend. Can I adjust job stats and such? since I will probably still re balance them a lot.

Anyway, only typed some of the 1st day with Zoe. I could say a lot of excuses, but mostly it was me being way too sleepy 1/2 the time and reading too much shieldbro light novel chapters.

Just letting you know, the "civilization/village" arc bored me enough I finally skipped a few chapters for the first time.

*******
“Zoe, come back here!” ~Lyann chases off after a wet naked cat girl, following her around the room.
Well, a lion girl, to be exact.

Of course it's a nice sight, but there's nothing naughty about it. Zoe just ran out of the tub again, this time taking shelter in the bed's sheets, rolling around with them and making them wet as she curls them up around herself. It's actually rather amazing that a 1 year old child can do all that.
Well, I was told that their minds would do their best to catch up to their bodies if given the chance, but its amazing that in just a few hours, she can already run and play.
She was just barely able to walk when we met her.

Anyway, Lyann is stronger than she looks, so she has little trouble picking Zoe up, sheets and all, then carrying her back into the bathroom.

Rather than lewd, it's funny. It's definitively a cute, too, since Zoe is taller than Lyann, but all curled up under the sheets and with just her face showing, she looks pretty much like a baby, except for her shins and feet that are sticking out from the side.

>>35706160
I just read all of these in the archive.

I love it you give ?TG? every thing we want and more,yet we still feel like we earned it.

we got the beautiful sister/slave

we have money, and a chance to lead/shape the world.
powers no one else has

more meta knowledge than ever.

Thanks!

also we need to get our alchemy on use that wounder full meta knowledge.

give control to chess club to our winged bro,(so we got time for alchemy club) hell rename it to gaming club and give them GO

>>35706277
Honestly, she really is a baby.

“Ah, I want to play, too!” ~Stella tries to stand up in the tub, and Eldric has to push her back down into it.
“In a bit, we got to finish washing you first” ~he says

Lyann comes back with Zoe, and closes the door with the lock before unwrapping the catgirl, then lowering her back into the tub.

Well, it doesn't seems like Zoe hates water. It's more like, she wants Lyann to chase her.
Maybe if I get some bath toys, she and Stella will have more interest in remaining on the tub.

Oh right, that reminds me of my world's legendary item... you know, the “rubber duck”.
It doesn't matters how you think about it, rubber ducks are just famous enough as to be legendary, right?

For now, I just splash Zoe gently with water, so she gets the idea that the tub is fun.
She meows and whines cutely, covering her face with her hands, palms facing forth.
It's definitively a cat-like gesture, isn't it?

“Nya nya~!” ~she calls softly. Well, it's very reminding of Miiyau.

I wonder how she and Grummir are doing.

“Eldric, don't teach her bad things!” ~Lyann says with a small frown
“Is it bad? I just thought she wouldn't run off if she had fun in the tub”
“Ah... that could work”

>>35706231
I know, right? i only had to spend like 10 minutes making sure. I hate my eyes

>>35706291
Well, I never thought that sponge bathing two girls could give off such a innocent and family-friendly vibe, but it does. There's absolutely nothing but innocence inside this tub. It's rather soothing to the soul, after the shock of learning about breeding pits and all.

Since Stella didn't run off, she's ready first. Lyann helps her out of the tub, and has her sit on top of a fluffy towel while she dries her off.

I feel as if there's a need for a hairdryer. At least for the girl's fluffy tails.
I suppose I could talk about it with Okaba. If we can make refilling jugs and ever-bright candles, surely we can make something that blows warm air?

Something shaped like a toy to make shower time more fun would be good. Yeah, that would be great. Since it runs on magic rather than electricity, it could make a great. safe bathroom toy.

“Aaah, my scent is all gone!” ~the wolf girl pouts a little as she tries to smell herself
“Now you smell like a girl.” ~Lyann rubs Stella's hair softly with the towel, then gets started on her tail
“But I like my scent!”
“I'm sure you do. Don't you like how Eldric smells? What about me?”
“Yes! I like how sister Lyann and the young lord smell, too!”
“Well, we smell like soap, right?”
“Not really?”

She's a wolf, after all. I'm sure she picks up scents we can't
I guess we'll have to use some herbal soap, so she can smell forest-like.

>>35706309
“Nya! nya!” ~Zoe complains a little as Eldric rubs her hair clean.

Maybe I got some oil in her eyes? I'll pour some water... there we go
Uhmm.. even tho im washing the naked body of a 15yrs old girl, it feels perfectly normal. Is this what parenting is like? Is it because I know she's a baby?
I think I should feel somewhat excited about it, but there's nothing of that.
Honestly, it's a little worrying, in a way.

Well, Lyann slips a pajama unto Stella, and then helps me dry off Zoe after taking her off the tub.
Like with Stella, we sit her on a fluffy towel and dry her off gently.
She's completely relaxed and trusting. She has no objections to Lyann drying her off in those places while I dry off her hair.

After she's fully dry, we slip a shirt on her. Thankfully, Tazar, the dwarven tailor, gave us a few good ones for cheap so the girls could use them as pajamas. That dwarf really understands the concept of customer satisfaction.

Huh, it was fine when she was wet and naked, so why is it that a pretty cat girl in a shirt gives off this dangerously sexy aura? ~sigh~ begone, evil thoughts!

Well, Stella looks about my age, so she doesn't has any of Zoe's dangerous sexy aura. That's good, it really helps.

Once they are done with their bath, Stella takes Zoe to the (thankfully large) bedroom to play. They could also play in the large inner garden in the palace, but honestly they would probably ruin some bushes and such, and it would be uncomfortable to have to apologize to the dwarves over it.

Maybe when they are both a little older. Mentally, I mean.

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>>35706351
Kalliira comes in with food, and we have to hold back Zoe so she doesn't tackles her. Her tummy starts growling right away when the scent of food reaches her. Now I feel dumb for not thinking of getting her food first.

Should we give her solid food, or try to mash some fruits and such? She has all her teeth, but would she know how to chew harder food bits? I think it's better if we just give her mashed fruits and such. For now, anyway.

“Yes, young lord” ~Kalliira nods understandingly, and goes to get some from the kitchen.

Experimentally, I try giving a tiny bit of meat to Zoe... yeah, she just swallowed it up. I doubt it will hurt her, but it would be dangerous to give her larger chunks.

Of course, Stella its fine.

She's rather amazing, in a way. Just a couple of weeks ago, she was this really tiny and timid little cub, and now she's happily sitting in a strange place and eating with a spoon on her own.

Is she specially resilient or is this her mind catching up?

Anyway, Zoe seems to enjoy it when Kalliira feeds her the mashed fruits. I guess I'll ask her to watch over the girls when I'm not in the palace.

After food, both girls are sleepy. Or rather, Zoe just gets under the bed and falls asleep right away, while Stella is about to collapse right where she is.

Kalliira takes the wet sheets away and comes back with fresh ones. I feel like we are giving her a lot of work, but she doesn't seems to mind.

Once the bed is ready, we gently get Zoe under the sheets, and Stella curls up with her. They naturally curl with each other, including their tails, so they look like a ring of fluffy softness. Zoe is, of course, larger than Stella, so its a little bit off balance.

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>>35706365
“I will come back before dinner in case you need anything” -says Kalliira as she leaves.
“Thankyou”

“Eldric, can you change my job into craftsmen for a bit? I want to try making some toys with the loot we got.”
“Sure”

Lyann makes some bright wooden blocks, with letters on them. Also a couple of Eldric plushies, which is rather embarrassing, and a soft cotton ball. It didn't use much of the materials we got, but it would have been find if it did, anyway.

I set her job back to Devadasi, and go see Okaba.

The prince is fine with accepting both girls into the orphanage when we go back to Albion, and maybe I shouldn't really be surprised that he had already made something like that for Aura.

Aura actually pouts a little when Okaba gives me her old toys, including a colorful soft rubber cup with warm air coming from inside it. It has a rubber ball that doubles as a lid.

“B-but... but those are mine!” ~the succubus looks rather distressed.
“Oh, come on dear, you surely don't want them to just sit in your item box forever, right?”
“I was sort of planning on that, yes... you made those for me, right?” ~she actually looks like she may cry.

I think these are part of her precious memories, so rather than just taking them, I'm just going to copy them.

>>35706277
Yeah, there's a 'job list' sheet that all the other sheets pull their data from. Just change the values there and it'll propagate everywhere. Note that I haven't figured out a good way to do those 'on level up, gain level/2 MP' type abilities so classes that have that feature will have lower stats than expected.

I also didn't know the base stats that anyone had, so I just left them as 1's across the board. It's the top row of any character's stat sheet if you want to change them.

Note that there was a significant discrepancy for Eldric and Lyann's HP from what you had given us before. I think the formula I used was right, since it gave everyone elses stats pretty close. I used sum of all levels * con bonus. So for Elric, that would be 151*28 = 4228, which gives him way more HP than you had him at.

If you want any other features, a different layout, or different stat calculations, please tell me.

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>>35706381
That seems to cheer her up immensely, even if Okaba sighs a little bit.
Hey, who's fault do you think it is that she's so spoiled, uh? It's your fault, you know? So take responsibility for it!

Anyway, for now, we enchant a simple wooden cup to blow warm air, and will just turn it around when not in use. Come think of it, it is somewhat surprising that he had a rubber ball, but Okaba comments that rubber, while rare away from the southern jungles, it's fairly common at his homeland.

Right, the mayas on earth already had rubber when the spaniards found them. Okaba mentons that some plant monsters drop rubber bars, but that they do not spawn this far up north.

For a second there, I thought maybe there was a rubber industry with tree plantations, but I guess it's just monster drops again, uh?

The bars and ingots that monsters drop are really convenient, but maybe they are holding this world's technological advance back, in a sense.

Why have farms when you have foodgeons? Why have rubber plantations when you can get rubber ingots off plant monsters in said foodgeons. Well, at least the foodgeons led to settlers giving up the nomad lifestyle to live around them, but... it still feels as if the gods good intentions may have done more harm than good, there.

Come think about it, where are the dwarves getting their ale? If it turns out that monsters drop ale kegs, I will be sorely disappointed. What kind of fantasy world would this be if dwarves didint made their own ale?

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>>35706390
everyone starts with 10 on everything and then I roll 1d10 for each attribute. Some races get more dice in one stat and none in other. Beastmen get +2d10 to dexterity but no extra dice on wisdom, for example

>>35706401
On the other hand, I could see entire foodgeons being reset over and over until every single floor is full of THAT specific ale-dropping mob, all the way to a dragon boss that drops super high quality beer.

Anyway, like in that old image, I must have forgotten to turn my swag off before bed, because the next morning, I woke up covered in bitches, and kittens, and redheads.

Help. I can't move. Must chew arm to safety... No, not really. It is actually a pretty happy situation, but I'm still not sure how it came about. Stella and Zoe were sleeping curled up around eachother, weren't they?

“Lyann, are you awake?”
“Yes~” ~she answers while slightly sleepy
“Can you get up?”
“I could”

This isin't going to be a repeat of yesterday, is it?

“Get up, please?”
“Don't want to”

I guess it is.

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>>35706437
“I'm trapped, I can't get up if you don't get up first”
“That's fine~ let's stay like this for a bit more” ~she answers with a splendid smile as she cuddles up to Eldric, hugging him and squeezing him gently
“Ah, I want to hug the young lord, too!” ~says Stella as she clings from Eldric's neck

Aah... it's really warm... no, more than that, it's hot. Being buried under this many girls and sheets its hot! I really want to get up now! It's nowhere as pleasant as bad fanfics would make you believe.

“Ung lur” ~says Zoe as she, too, clinbs from Eldric
“You are teaching her bad things, see!?” ~he complains softly
“There's nothing bad about it” ~says Lyann as she happily clings to him

*Sigh* Should I be happy about her starting to speak, or angry? It is quite amazing that she's almost making words now, but I wish she wasn't copying these two. Or rather, I wish she and Stella weren't copying Lyann. And why is she so clingy all of a sudden, anyway!?

Kalliira laughs softly when she finds us all still in bed. She came in with breakfast, if you were asking.

“Oh my, that looks really comfortable” ~she says with a smile as she places the foodtray on a small table.
“Please get them off me?”
“I'll see you in a few hours, I think”

This is actually making me sleepy. It's just so warm, and fluffy, and the girls smell really nice, and its nicely dark inside the room...

*Just push them off and emerge like a swag god from a sea of bitches (and kittens and redheads)
*Give up and go back 2 bed, Eldric
*Other

>>35706351
>Honestly, it's a little worrying, in a way.
considering eldric body is still 9 years old, it makes sense.

>>35706466
*Give up and go back 2 bed, Eldric

>>35706466
>*Give up and go back 2 bed, Eldric

>>35706381
>Also a couple of Eldric plushies, which is rather embarrassing
hahaha
payback for making our valkyries look like her

>>35706466
>*Just push them off and emerge like a swag god from a sea of bitches (and kittens and redheads)

>>35706466
>*Give up and go back 2 bed, Eldric

>>35706466
>*Give up and go back 2 bed, Eldric

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Well that was longer than I thought it would be, now Im rather happy I didint actually type the whole week.

>>35706496
>>35706497
>>35706564

It is cuddle time+++

>>35706547
The swag knight rises+

*sigh* Fine... but... only for a little while... and because it's so comfy and warm...

Some time later
"Lord Eldric, you should get up now..." -says one
"..and come play with me!" -says the other

Eldric opens an eye through layers of cuddly sleepyness to find that Ami and Mai are also added unto the pile, for some reason. The "fierce assassins" looking like they're having fun as they each claim one of his hands as his own.

Meanwhile, a very troubled and red Mako is standing at the feet of the bed, looking like she doesn't knows what to do, now.

Oh, wouldn't it be nice if she climbed up? no, wait, I don't think she would... we should probably get up now. Besides, with the addition of two more redheads unto the bed, it really is just a little bit too hot for comfort, now.

*Invite Mako into the big cuddle pile
*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

Also, what do you think of
<--- this design
for Ami and Mai? its not mine i just found it while looking for game sprites to get ideas from.

No I have no idea where it is from but it looks great and fitting for them

>>35706656
>*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

>>35706656
>*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

We need to get Ami and Mai squared away with their slave starter jobs. So much potential unused.

>>35706656
*Invite Mako into the big cuddle pile

>>35706656
>*Invite Mako into the big cuddle pile
only possible answer

>>35706656
>*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

There is such a thing as being too greedy.

>>35706656
>*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

>>35706656
>*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

*Alright, this time for sure, the swag knight rises!

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>>35706656
I had always imaged them as pic related. Certainly not redheads.

>>35706765
He introduced them as Red Heads. So that's just an error on your part.

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>>35706674
>>35706680
>>35706698

>the swag knight rises!+++

>>35706683
>>35706692

>Mako into the big cuddle pile+

"Alright, that's enough, girls. I'm seriously getting up, now!"
"Uhhhh~!" ~the girls try to cling and pink him down

Eldric is actually strong enough to get up carrying all of them as they cling to him, tho. There's "nuuh!" and "nooo!" and "nya!" all around as he gently but unstoppably emerges from under the girl's clutches!

"Ah! I made it!" ~his pajamas are slightly torn, but he got up
"Boo!" ~Ami whines since she didint actually got to cuddle up for any lenght of time
"Alright, please, Mako, wait in the hallway for a little bit. I must get dressed. And take Ami and Mai, would you?"

"..." ~she nods softly, and the shadows just suddenly stand behind her as she starts walking out of the room

"Young lord, are we going to a dungeon?" ~asks Stella

What DO you want to do today?
*Mako came pick us up, lets take her with us to a dungeon
*Stay and play in the safety of the palace for today. Maybe get Mako to help us take care of the cat and dog
*Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog
*Other

>>35706765
Oh, I love the design, that's great, but I did say they were redheads from day 1.

And no comments on the sprite I posted?

>>35706839
>*Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog

>>35706839
>*Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog
I really don't want to send stella and zoe into dungeons. Leveling them doesn't feel right.

I do want to unlock all of Ami and Mai's slave starter jobs and explain to them and Mako how leveling all those jobs to 20 makes you far stronger than sticking to a single job track. Then maybe swap Mako to wizard and try to teach her chantless casting.

>>35706839
*Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog
We need them to learn while they're still mentally catching up, as this is likely to be easier now than later.

>>35706839
>*Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog
Education.

>>35706908
>I do want to unlock all of Ami and Mai's slave starter jobs
iirc we did that already, at a priest

>explain to them and Mako how leveling all those jobs to 20 makes you far stronger than sticking to a single job track
Fair enough on that part.

>>35706839
I'm a fan of the spirte.

>>35706839

Take the day off, kinda. We teach both of them some, play a bit and then track down Kalliira.

She should know some people we can hire as a nanny for the 2 girls to both teach them some and watch them when we are busy. Paying extra for some teachers and people as play mates if needed. It works if we buy their freedom when we leave, with a severance of coarse.

Maybe set up a daycare center here to watch kids if we have to also.

>>35706940
>iirc we did that already, at a priest
We did everyone but them, as far as i remember.
They both have monk now, so we could swap them to that before heading to a priest if they want to keep the assassin thing secret.

>>35706839
>And no comments on the sprite I posted?
I'm not really feeling the tail.

I thought ami and mai were human?

>>35706839
>And no comments on the sprite I posted?
its cute, but most of the images you post are.
it gets a bit repetitive to gush over each one.

>>35706940
It's actually kind of crazy how strong broad leveling makes you.

If we ever get around to leveling all our remaining T1 jobs to 20 (Avenger, Monk, Knight, Healer, Singer) we will have over 14k hitpoints, 420 strength, 630 dex, 490 con...the list goes on. We'd be the fucking juggernaut.

Okaba's shotgun thing already pings off of our naked SR. We'd have higher armor, naked, than a suit of runic full plate.

>>35707022
I think theres been several mentions that they were cats. But damned if I don't remember where.

>>35707077
don't forget the religious jobs we need to get in touch with the gods, its not just about stats.

>>35707105
Cat girl themed armor

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>>35707022
they are but we got them new clothes that came with a cat tail

>>35706900
>>35706908
>>35706911
>>35706924

>Spend the day educating (training?) cat and dog

>>35706288
Im glad you are enjoying it, man

Once everyone is decent, I ask Mako to come in again. I wonder how her shadows got her into the room to begin with. I really doubt she would just go in uninvited.

Well, Zoe is having fun with the hairdryer cup when Mako comes in. Her soft fluffy hair floating upwards as she tries to nibble on the warm air.

Mako excuses herself and comes in, then takes a seat where we ask her to.

Explaining things to her, she doesnt seem particularly surprised. It's she too accepting, did she knew about scions from before, or did she suspect something? Anyway, she seems to understand everything, nodding quietly until she spots something on the bed, and then blushes a little bit.

"..."
"Oh! the princess wants one of those!" -says Ami
Mai grabs the Eldric plushie from the bed and takes it to Mako, whom just stares at it with star-filled eyes, then hugs it
"..."
"The princess loves it" ~says Ami

"Nya?" ~Zoe has picked up on Mako taking her toy from the bed, and wander over, then kneels in front of the princess, and sniffs at her

"Nya!" ~I think Zoe approves of Mako. She starts nuzzling and licking at her while Mako giggles and squirms softly in place.
"..."
"That.." ~starts Mai
"..tickles!" ~ends Ami

"Lyann, uh... could you make another plushie?"
"Of course"
"...se make him wearing the school uniform" ~says Mako, even as she goes bright red
"Alright"

1/?

>>35707105
I thought we just put cat ears on there armor

>>35707077
ya know i want to be able to take on an entire army our self in front of everyone at epolis (the city the lightbringers founded) just to make the world fear one man

>>35707108
i really do want us to start working at a temple and unlock the priest job.

>>35707166
When I was making the spreadsheets, I added in the required job levels for us to get Fedaykin, Ginaz Swordmaster and Weaponthane to do that permastealth charge combo from an earlier thread.

We'd have over 900 for strenth, dex, con, and over 1000 for wis. Though that is leveling three T2 classes to 20. We would have more armor naked than we have total right now, and every single one of our melee attacks would be at +90 to hit and damage.

Honestly, casting is a newbie trap. It has high damage early on, but there are not many jobs that improve int and very few special abilities that improve it. Physical damage is the way to go if you want to be godlike.

That said, because of Rune Knights you do want elemental skill to be 100.

>>35707183
if not for power, for the possible info on what we are

>>35707308
and what we can do, so far we have been stumbling around with our extra power, perhaps they could give us insight to more abilities we never knew we had.

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>>35707157

"Hold on, I'm not that cute, am I?" ~Eldric says as he sees the plush doll Lyann comes up with
""""Yes, you are! (+1nya!)"""" ~says everyone

Oh earth, swallow me now, just eat me!

"Ooooh, Eldric is blushing!"
"Nya nya!" ~Zoe licks Eldric's nose
"So..."
"...cute!"
"The young lord is cute!"

Alright, no more teasing the girls, their revenge is too embarrassing to bear.
Well, maybe sometimes

~A few hours later~

"Ma-ko!" ~Zoe has grown really attached to the little princess
"...!" ~Mako nods with a smile

Mako is gently brushing Zoe's hair while the catgirl knees at her feet, and Mako teaches her to speak Why does it seem as if this is really backwards...? I mean, I can hardly ever hear Mako herself to begin with. How come noone else seems to have a problem with it!?

Anyway, the room is full of cute girls, at the moment.

Mai is playing with Stella... but it feels more like training... yes, she's definitively training her.

Ami is just quietly kneeling behind Mako, while Lyann is busy making toys and simple clothes for our new dog and cat.

Eventually, Kalliira comes in with lunch...

"Oh my... I will have to bring in extra plates...!" ~she goes back to the kitchen in a hurry after leaving the lunch cart inside the room.

We have fish and mashed potatoes with white sauce today. There's a bowl (NOT a pet bowl) full of baby food for Zoe, with a colorful wooden spoon, as well.

By the time Kalliira comes back, Mako is spoon feeding Zoe as the liongirl happily celebrates every spoon.

2/?

I was experimenting with grandpa's sheet a little, but its now outdated thanks to your spreadsheet. I will mess with it on the weekend

>>35707387
why are Fremen 1, Jannissary 1, Gladiator 1 in red on the seat?

>>35707387
Truly, the burdens 59 App places upon a person are severe.

>>35707471
you wanna know whats fucked up is that okaba has 61 App and is 140 years old and we are only 9 and have 59 App we gonna be gods gift to women when we are older

>>35707506
We're unlocking Dancer as our next non-class starter job. We'll have 150+ app within the year.

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>>35707387
Kalliira is pushing another food cart. This one has a green cream soup in several bowls, with fried bread cubes on it.

That must be lunch for Mako, Ami and Mai.

Before she goes, however, we try and inquire with Kalliira about hiring a nanny for the girls. She says she would be glad to take on the job. Since she's been assigned as our personal servant for our stay, it wouldnt be a problem at all.

Well, that's nice. that's one less worry, indeed.
Still, by the end of the day...

Eldric plushies made: 3
Embarrasment level: Moderate
Zoe: learnt to say everyone's names
Stella: learnt to count to 10, learnt to do a joint lock

In the evening, we took Mai and Ami to a shrine maiden to get the rest of their slave jobs unlocked after switching them to monk.

That night, both Stella and Zoe had fun during bath time, and there were no problems. Today really felt vacation-like

The next morning... well, we were expecting it, but we are covered in girls, again.

"Aura, what in the name of everything, are you doing?" ~Eldric asks as she sees the succubi added unto the Stella, Zoe and Lyann pile

Okaba is standing a few feet away, trying not to smirk or chuckle

"Well, everyone's doing it, and I wanted to be popular" ~she says, obviously joking

"I'm sorry for entering unannounced, but your maid said it would be alright. We are going to the market today, remember?" ~Okaba says while trying his best to look serious

"Alright, Lyann, Zoe, Stella, get up"
"""Nooo"""
"Oh for the love of..." ~Eldric gets up, losing another pajama shirt

Well, Zoe said No properly today. Should we count that as a good thing?

3/?

>>35707454
because I still havent added those stats but should. Thats a reminder to myself

back in 10 minutes

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>>35707387
Oh, and have a pic for when we teach Mako the dancer job.

>>35707387
daww

>>35707599
>Stella: learnt to count to 10
>learnt to do a joint lock
hehe, I laughed

>>35707599
It's a good thing Lyann has craftsman. I think pajama shirts are going to be a serious burden for the Lightbringer finances.

>>35707665
We would just have to bear with it

>>35707613
nice

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>>35707613
thats nice, but needs more smile, I think

**

Okaba walks around looking at the wares with interest through the ring.

"Uhmm... these do look identical to the naked eye. I honestly cannot see a single difference. Aura, pay for these two, would you?" -Okaba hands two shortswords to Aura, one with 2 and one with 4 slots.

They're regular, good quality steel shortswords. Well, it's easy to guess that he just wants them for the slot difference.

That day, we had lunch outside. It looks like Okaba is a fan of sampling local foods wherever he goes.

Aura sits at his feet, very properly, and leans her head on his lap while he eats.

Well, the dwarves food is quite spicey. If feels as if Eldric's tongue is on fire. And they only have milk or ale, so we are having milk.

"Since they appear the same, and were probably made with the same mold, whatever decides the number of slots must happen before, when the metal is being poured, or later, when it is being sharpened and hammered, don't you think?"
"Probably the later. The chances of the metal coming from the same cauldron are pretty big."
"Uhmm"

He cuts and tries a bit of molerat steak with potatoes.

"Even if it only results in two slots, as opossed to up to 6, as long as we could find a way to achieve the same number over and over, it would be a huge boon, as oppossed to depending on an artisan's touch for every single blade" ~our friend says after lowering the food with a bit of drink
"Well, of course I'd like it if we could get 6 every time" ~Eldric says
"Quite, but that's unreasonable at this stage..."

4/?

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>>35707599
>We have a Tohno Gland

Glorious. I just hope the boy doesn't abuse such a world rending power.

>>35708274
What does Okaba think of the idea to place curses on cards like the succubus/incubus pair?

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>>35708274

"You mentioned jobs, right? Could you explain the advantages to me?" ~he says while getting another bite
"Sure..."

He nods while we talk, and takes a couple of notes here and there.

"Well, nothing from what you said seems to clash with anything else. Can we try it on Aura, here?"
"W-what do you want to try, Master? you know I'm not against experimenting, but Lyann's a bit too you- ouch" ~she jokes as Okabe sighs and bops her right horn gently to stop her joking

Lyann blinks, not getting the joke

* Sure, let's go to a temple and then a foodgeon
* Maybe tomorrow, I want to see how the girls are doing at the palace
* Its just us four, let's invite someone else (who? Honoria?)
* Other

>>35708412
>* Its just us four, let's invite someone else (Honoria)
She's really the only other person, and leveling her Rune Knight is probably something she wants to do.

>>35708412
>>* Sure, let's go to a temple and then a foodgeon

>>35708412
>* Sure, let's go to a temple and then a foodgeon

Suggest that Okaba get knight to 10 so he's less of a porcelain figurine.

We can tank anything the dungeons throw at us with contemptuous ease.

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>>35708363
oh right, will mention it as well

>>35708446
Well, we could invite Stella, even if just to use a party slot to give her exp, and IIRC we talked about leveling Zoe as a wizard to raise her int.

Also holy fuck have you seen how much exp you need for lvl 99?

>>35708491
I suppose the Zoe's Wizard INT increases would really help in getting her to learn.

Alright, changing from Honoria to Zoe, and making her Job Wizard.

>>35708491
>Also holy fuck have you seen how much exp you need for lvl 99?
yes. I have argued this in previous threads.
the cost is so high that i prefer to keep spreading XP around.

>>35708491
Oh, can we focus on leveling noble/scion/knight/healer this run? I'd like to get both of those up to 20. If we're still in the dungeon with those ding, then switch to noble/scion/avenger/monk. And make sure we buy the singer unlock from a temple.

>>35708576
You're correct.

However, we should make sure all her t1 jobs and devadasi are at least level 10 before we switch her to noble or villager, as the level limitations on changing jobs would become annoying.

>>35708593
why knight when we have the up graded form already unlocked

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>>35708533
we have 6 party slots
Aura
Eldric
Honoria
Lyann
Okaba
Zoe

We can still invite Honoria as well, unless you want to hog some exp

>>35708576
I like the "pretty cool uh?" note that someone added to it

>>35708593
I dont see why not, but come think of it, CAN we turn scion off without fucking our stats? its what allows us to have more than 1 job on to begin with

So, invite Honoria along and feed remote exp to Zoe?

Captcha "Janitor watching"
holy fuck

>>35708491
Add Zoe to the party, make her a Wizard.
Go in with Noble, Scion, Knight, Healer turned on, all others off. If they hit 20, then switch to Noble, Scion, Monk, Avenger.

>>35708621
>before we switch her to noble or villager
Ah, nono. when i said spread XP around i meant between jobs. not between classes
I think our girls should remain slave class and aim for scion.
The class change just gives too little.

But jobs we should shuffle all around. because you just get so much more that way.

>>35708660
T2 job costs XP as if its +20 levels higher
T3 as if its +40 levels higher
And you just get more out of more levels than levels in a higher tier job

>>35708670
invite honoria.
remove zoe
i don't think we should level the babies anymore for the foreseeable future.
They need education not levels.

>>35708688
Then you have a massive case of cognitive dissonance.

>>35708670
I don't want to bring zoe. She's already been forcefully aged enough. I feel guilty about stella as is.

>>35708491
Take honoria, and give zoe a party slot and push wizard some, so she can get some int. She can stay and learn instead of going. Level lyann craftsman some.

>>35708670
No to zoe.

>>35708710
Levels objectively increases their intelligence and wisdom, which promotes education.
Not leveling them so that they get intellect increases which their minds are trying to catch up to their bodies is doing them a disservice.

>>35708670
I assume we never turn off scion. The job allocations I suggested were to make our level gain equal with the rest of the party.

>>35708718
>Then you have a massive case of cognitive dissonance.
No I do not.
Class increases give you a tiny fraction of what job increases does. And you can level up many jobs for the price of one class.
So playing the long game in terms of class and trying to get scion is viable. You miss out on very little power.
Meanwhile, spreading XP between jobs gives you massive overwhelming power compared to others in the world.

>>35708753
let them be children for fucks sake.

>>35708753
Think of it this way, every level she gets is another year to her body age while her mind stays the same. I want to get her mind atleast close to caught up before we go leveling her more.

>>35708718
>She's already been forcefully aged enough. I feel guilty about stella as is.
Her mind is already accelerating to catch up with her body, and instead of giving her levels in Wizard to give her more Int and Wis to help her catch up, you want to keep her mentally down at her chronological age, instead of helping her catch up to her physiological age and develop her mind.

You're not helping her, even though you think you are. You're actively working against something that would help her better adjust to her physical reality.

>>35708813
>And you can level up many jobs for the price of one class.

No you can't. The xp cost is the same. And you could bring all lyann's jobs and classes to 50 without making a significant dent in the xp required to reach 100.

>>35708844
You don't need huge int stats to be a functional member of society. Brass had 15 before we made him unlock wizard.

Let them be children.

>>35708847
if it is the same, than it deviates from the source material
Also, class gives bonus XP to jobs if they are lower level than the class
that being said. still no big deal. the class gives you far less than a job does. so we make up for it with having a dozen jobs.

>>35708923
>deviates from the source material
what the fuck are you babbling about

>>35708838
Their minds are already hyper-accelerating their development, and you want to keep their mental faculties retarded.

>>35708839
>every level she gets is another year to her body age while her mind stays the same
Except that's wrong. Her body is already that of a teenager, and her mind is hyper-accelerating its development to catch up.
Leveling her up will only help to get her mind to develop and reach where it is supposed to be quicker.

>>35708872
She's not going to be a child in a few days, and having a higher Int and Wis are going to help her learn faster and better.

>>35708943
The XP charts are from a video game.

>>35708965
And? Classes and jobs obviously use the same xp curve.

>>35708962
>Their minds are already hyper-accelerating their development, and you want to keep their mental faculties retarded.
Their mental faculties are already hyper accelerated. Not pushing them more and more and more isn't the same as keeping them retarded.

>Except that's wrong. Her body is already that of a teenager
Her body is that of a 15 year old. She is not done growing, you want to push her all the way to full adulthood.

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>>35708718
>She's already been forcefully aged enough.
She wont age ny more, tho, shes already reached her "physical ideal" so shell be stuck there for a little over a decade

I agree with you on Stella, tho. She's 4 (IIRC) but has a 8yrs old body, I think

>>35708813
You are right, but maybe he wants to raise the t1s from other classes and then go back to slave? just my guess, tho. reaching level 20 in any one job its really not much exp at all, compared to the long term of higher levels

>>35708839
they only age up to age 15. Zoe is already there, she wont age any more just because we get her more levels.

It is a valid argument for Stella, tho

>>35708872
Normal people have between 10 and 20 on attributes not related to their job.

Anyway, I hope people understand why we are taking Zoe? your intentions are good, but you misunderstood me or i miss explained things.

Zoe wont physically age anymore until her chronological age catches up to her body, so even if we get her to level 80, that wont age her a day.

>>35708923
it does deviate a little, yes. But you are right in that class gives a small bonus to jobs lower than itself

>>35708943
hes talking about how exp is handled on disgaea, i think

>>35708983
And I answered your question. Learn to read

>>>>>>Classes require more XP
>>>>>no they don't
>>>>Oh? in that case it doesn't match source
>>>what sauce?
>>The vidya
>And? Classes and jobs obviously use the same xp curve.

>>35709003
I have significant ethical reservations about taking a 1 year old infant into a life and death situation, physically mature or not.

>>35708983
where can i find the XP curve?

>>35709046
the plan isn't to take her with, its to link with her as a party then leave her at home while we go into the dungeon. she will then slurp up XP from us without participating

my ultimate dream for Eldric when he becomes a ruler is he takes an army single handily in front of the city of Eoplies and as he walks back in to the city this is playing in my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhTz1Pnolaw
couldn't find better entrance music

>>35708988
>She is not done growing,
She IS done growing. It was said previously that she won't grow any more until she reaches the appropriate age.

And not giving Int and Wis increases to Zoe while she's in the prime phase for learning is keeping her from reaching her full potential.

>>35709100
You can plan all you want, Mengele, I will continue to vote to actually save an infant from the very shit you keep trying to force on her.

>>35709135
>And not giving Int and Wis increases to Zoe while she's in the prime phase for learning is keeping her from reaching her full potential.
[citation needed]

Because you're seriously pulling this shit from your ass.

>>35709147
You are not 'saving' and infant if she is not in danger

>>35709135
>And not giving Int and Wis increases to Zoe while she's in the prime phase for learning is keeping her from reaching her full potential.
bullshit

>>35709147
You're not saving anyone. You're just keeping a person from learning or growing because you want to feel like you're protecting them, instead of just stifling them.

>>35709147
Mengele? Hey now it ain't like we're doing human experimentation here.

>>35709211
Yes, beast races are conveniently not human.

>>35709147
>You can plan all you want, Mengele
Fuck you, you retarded faggot piece of shit! I am one of the guys voting to NOT do it.
I am explaining it to you because you are such a retarded fuckwit that you are undermining our side by making retarded obvious strawman that show you don't even understand what is going on, and lack basic fucking reading comprehension.
Just because someone corrects you when you post objectively wrong stuff, doesn't mean he is advocating for the other side. fucking shit.

>>35709238
[false flag intensifies]

Continue your frothing, it is amusing.

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>>35709046
we arent taking her along, tho? she can earn exp just from being in the party. We dont have a minimal party distance. She can be all the way back in the palace, it wont make a difference

Its something nobles often abuse to get levels to their children. Send slaves or adventurers into a dungeon to level up their children.

>>35709075
http://disgaea.gamexploiter.com/enext_table.html

>>35709121
is it just the trumpet blaze, or is there more... ah nm theres more it just takes a long time

personally, I like the warcraft III theme from the human victory cutscene, with the giant bells and all the "magnificent! glory and peace!" cries in the background.

Well, it looks like we cant switch their opinion on it, so lets not bring Zoe along for now. Its not that big an issue since shes catching up quickly and in 2 weeks, top, will be a functional 15yrs old anyway.

>>35709238
oh, sorry. I can see you have other reasons for not wanting her to go in, rather than just not understanding what I said.

Anyway, like >>35709238
is explaining, lets just let her develop naturally, I guess. She will catch up soon, anyway.

Uhmm.. want to invite someone else, then? since we are giving her exp remotely, may as well bring in Mako. Its not like it'll hurt her in any way

>>35709296
More Mako always has my vote.

>>35709175
>>35709193
We've already been told that increasing Int means being able to learn things faster.
Since right now Zoe's mind is learning things at an accelerated rate, increasing her Int will let her learn how to speak and read even faster.

That's not bullshit, that's what we've been told so far.

>>35709375
Go ahead and actually give citations rather than pulling even more shit from your ass. kthxbye.

>>35709296
>Well, it looks like we cant switch their opinion on it
if they're in the minority, then they get overruled.
Why not actually put it up to a vote to see which option has more support?

>>35709296
I'm unsure why you're even pursuing this. The vote that won was just to go into the dungeon with okaba and aura.

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>>35709375
He's right, btw.

Anyway, I can see how it would be dangerous to give arcane powers to a baby... oooh, I just had an idea for when we go back.

Anyway, typing

>>35709296
im cool with the Warcarft 3 theme its nice

>>35709437
>He's right, btw.
So >>35709375 is right and >>35709399 is just pulling shit out of their ass because they don't want to be told they're wrong?

Just to confirm, Int and Wis increases help a person to learn, and since Zoe's mind is learning at an accelerated rate to catch up to her body, increasing her Int and Wis at the same time would help her to learn to speak, learn words, and how to write, much faster and better.

>>35709509
Sounds good, We should find the job thats available for Zoe that offers the most int and wis per level. And be done with that.
I'd say do the same for Stella but some people feel very strongly about not raising her up any more. Which is understandable. Letting a child enjoy their childhood and not forcing them into adulthood.

>>35709414
This is especially amusing after two votes were ignored to continue this debate.

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>>35709509
yes, but I can get behind the fact that giving blast power to a child is a bad idea

Lets put Zoe to vote the next day, I already got this idea for this run on my mind
****

We go back to the palace, and invite Honoria to come with us. The dwarven princess agrees, happily, and takes the chance to try out her new runic axe.

Mako also has no trouble agreeing to our proposition, and happily joins your party, albeit she is a bit saddened to learn she's not actually going.

Her shadows are quite relieved, tho.

"Do you want to try and explore a different foodgeon today?" ~asks Honoria
"Ah... no, we were hoping to level and get some interesting items today. There is some research I want to carry out which needs magical items." ~Okaba shakes his head gently
"Alright"

You open the gate to the foodgeon. You can reach any floor up to the deepest floor you visited before. For now, since Aura and Okaba are rising new jobs, you go to floor 20, which should give them plenty of exp while still allowing you, Honoria and Lyann, to easily clean out the monsters.

Thus, you appear on the 20th floor entrance. The dungeon at this depth looks quite similar to the dwarven castle. The walls are well built and quite solid, with glowing torches at regular intervals.

From what you remember, the enemy in this floors is iron golems, magical constructs where the top and bottom halves of the body float a few inches from one another.

They have the special attack "whirlwind" to hit several enemies at the same time without activating counterattack-type abilities.

1/?

>>35709589

I say we let stella enjoy childhood a bit. She may decide she wants to be aged up on her own however.

It was mentioned in the last extra time thread aging up slowly would not be unusal for the nomadic beastmen. But they would do it more slowly, over a period of time.

I would not be surprised if she starts asking to join us so she could age up, like zoe is. She may also just want to join us and feel left out otherwise.

>>35709720
When do we get lightning magic? Nothing quite says "Wrath of God" like big ass lightning blasts.

>>35709399
Here's a citation since you seem to want one so much.
>>35617833
>>they spend the next 14 years as a 15 year old?
>yes
>Their learning speed is also significantly boosted. If given the chance they will catch up to their bodies in a couple of weeks.

>>35709876
That says nothing about int and wis affecting learning rates. Which is the whole crux of your thesis.

Rather pointless now that King has replied in this thread about it.

>>35709720

Alright, for now, Okaba is wielding a greatbow, and Aura is wielding her regular gear, albeit in the craftsmen job, same as Lyann.

That means Okaba is in the back while everyone else is melee, right now.

With our current attack power, the golems are not a particularly threatening foe.

They are dropping [Fine][Steel Ingot] x2 each time we take them down. Do you want to go down or level up your friends here for a bit?

As you take down another of the golems, you notice a small message blink briefly in the corner of your field of view

Focusing into it...

"Because you have 4 different races in your party, you can select a special bonus"

Huh... bringing up the submenu
*Wisdom of the world: Visualize Exp Gain per mob
*Interracial collaboration: Everyone deals +10% damage

Warning, choosing one bonus will permanently lock the other.

***
Which one do you want?

>>35709872
Magic is pretty fucking weak. Especially attack magic.

>>35709982
>Visualize Exp Gain per mob
What does that mean? We can tell how much xp a mob will give us?

That seems remarkably useless.

>>35709927
The description of Intelligence in the Handbook states that it is used for reasoning and memorization, such as learning new spells, riddles, puzzles, etc.
So increased Int means better memory and reasoning, which are key parts of learning.

>>35709982
>*Interracial collaboration: Everyone deals +10% damage
it matters not what they give us but what we give them

>>35709982
>*Interracial collaboration: Everyone deals +10% damage
But before we choose, does this require 4 different races to always be in our party to be active?

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>>35709872
it has to be purple. The emperor uses purple lightning

>>35709983
Need special staves to improve MP-to-DMG ratio. For example, Okaba's "Most Exalted Ocean King" staff does 1:5 damage per spell instead of the normal 1:3

>>35710055
such generosity

>>35710007
>how much xp a mob will give us?
yes

>>35709982
>*Interracial collaboration: Everyone deals +10% damage

Mobs give xp when they are killed. We know higher level is better. Knowing numbers is not as interesting as flat percentage boost to big numbers.

I say look for boss mob, then move on.

>>35709982
More Damage, more dakka, more choppa, and mobs only give exp when they die. Making them die faster is thus a good thing.

>>35710115
mistake not my generosity for bloodthirstiness for i wish to let them taste the blade of our ancestors

>>35709982
>>*Interracial collaboration: Everyone deals +10% damage

>>35710069
4+
Lyann
Eldric
Mako

Honoria (dwarf)

Aura (Monster, ironically, that helps right now)

Okaba (Majin)

Alright, seems clear everyone prefers DPS at this moment

***

Well, by the speed at which Lyan and Aura's craftsmen jobs are going up, it doesn't seems like a bad floor. Okaba easily reached level 6 already, as well.

You head into the boss room. It is a massive iron golem with four arms and no ads, albeit the room itself has some obvious traps. The floor is covered with holes on the floor, and you can see pikes appearing out of them at seemingly random spots.

The middle of the room has no holes, but that's where the boss is standing.

*Try and lure the boss out of the room
*Swarm the guy in melee
*Other

Oh joy, our resident retarded namefag decided to inflict his presence upon us once more.

>>35710265
>*Try and lure the boss out of the room
No one has the dungeoneer job to clear traps.

>>35710265
Lure it out, hopefully it will either take damage from or destroy all traps in its path.

btw, which Job are we raising for Mako atm? idol or dancer?
I was under the impression we would raise her dancer, for some reason

Also, just throwing it out there, the golems were giving us 1011 exp each. Split 6 ways

>>35710265
>*Try and lure the boss out of the room
fight the enemy were they are not

>>35710265
>*Try and lure the boss out of the room
We're healer/knight right now, right? Use summons to get its attention.

>>35710265
>*Other
Have Eldrick and Honoria go up and tank it while Lyann thieves the Boss of loot.
THEN lure it out of the room.

>>35710339
She has dancer? Raise that. Then all her other t1 noble jobs.

>>35710339
Dancer, because it's a T1 job and would have faster returns than Idol.

>>35710265
>Try and lure the boss out of the room.

If he wont move drop a fire barrier and burn him where he stands. If we need to engage, we can drop an earth wall as a reinforced floor to rpotect our feet.

>>35710368
>expose everyone to extra danger for no reason: the plan

>>35710278
The hell are you going on about?

>>35710460
There IS a reason: Boss Loot that probably can't be acquired via drops, only stolen.

>>35710339
So our healer and knight jobs already leveled up a few times?

>>35710514
>WE CAN ONLY STEAL THE BOSS'S LOOT IN THE REALLY DANGEROUS PLACE
>NOT OUT IN THE HALLWAY

oh wait

>>35710548
That's assuming that it'll follow us out here, and then there's the question of spawning adds from the rest of the dungeon.

>>35710265
Blast the Golem with magic and long range attacks.
Some one has a great bow. And we can just use super powered fireballs. spending like 30 mana each on. I believe is the max.
Using the sword we gain it right back.

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You shoot a few spells at it. The boss just sits there, taking them. After a while, it starts summoning golems, which wander over toward your party.

Your group blocks the door, taking advantage of how many melee jobs you have right now, while attacking the boss from afar.

It continues spamming minions, but your wall of meat keeps them at the entrance, and the very traps take them out, slowly.

The boss falls and dissapear, leaving several items on the floor. Its ads also vanish, leaving scores of steel bars everywhere.

"Well, that wasnt very fun" ~says Honoria. The golems did use whirlwind as often as they could, smacking you, her, Lyann and Aura every time.

Since you dont have a singer to grant regeneration to your party, you have to heal them yourself.

The traps still get their pound of flesh since you have to cross the field of randomly striking spikes in order to pick up the loot and get to the next floor.

You spent 220MP on healing alone.

Well, its not a big issue since you can probably recover it on the next floor monsters.

You got
x32 [Fine[[Steel Ingot]
x2 [Runic][Delver's Helm]
This excellent helm allows you to communicate voicelessly amongst party members

...trying it out...

It's a chat window
You can just talk to someone, and they see a chat window appear. They can talk to you, and you can see their words appear.
It's fun, but backwards.
Why isin't it voice chat? is this game world really that old school? can't the gods afford a ventrilo server? a teamspeak one?

Well... whatever, at least its interesting. You can now talk to Mako even while she's at the palace.

>>35710578
Neither of which make your plan better. They in fact make it worse, because you're wasting time trying to get mediocre loot.

>>35710640
I think long range instantaneous communications is a bit more important than just chatting with Mako.

>>35710640
Can we turn on singerfor ourselves also?

>>35710640
>Chat Window

Let's try talking to Mako with it. I want to see her reaction.

>>35710640
We need to get Okaba on reverse engineering this. It will make coordinating research and general communication much much easier in the future. Time to make some cell phones.

>>35710685
This.

I specifically asked for singer to be unlocked before the dungeon here >>35708621

>>35710725
Er, one post up actually, here >>35708593

>>35710717
Get one for dad and mom. Make more for his air ship scouts.

>>35710640
Have we finished leveling Healer and Knight?
Can we switch to Singer and Monk?

>>35710752
Yep. Mass production of long range communication would be a great boon. Especially for a military.

>>35710810
Or for people in general. Imagine, the magical internet. I bet he misses the internet. How's a man to have pointless arguments and easily accessible smut without it?

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>>35710640

Mako: Lord Eldric? what is this?!"

Oooh, she can talk to us "normally" through the chat, uh? or is it because we are not face to face?

Eldric:"Its a helmet we just got from a boss monster. It allows us to talk from afar... sort of"
Mako: "That's amazing! can everyone use it, too?"
Aura: "Testing... I think so. Yup"
Okaba:"Fascinating."

"Eldric, can I have the other one? I want to try something." ~he asks us
"Sure?"
"It will just be a second"

He leaves the party for a few minutes.

"Sadly, it looks like you have to invite them into the party personally before talking with them. I just tried sending a message to my father" ~he says, and then rejoins the party

"Would have been useful"
"I'll keep trying to find out how it works."

The next floor has some sort of demon... it looks like a mass of chains and spikes in humanoid form. It attacks by immobilizing someone with its chains and then immolating them.

Its quite annoying, since it seems to remove one person from the fight without them being able to do much about it, but at least they only appear in groups of 3.

It is also the first time you see a "demon" type mob.

***
Alright, how high do you want to get before switching to other jobs? 20? that the same for all the guys/girls?

>>35710847
Hes not gone through puberty yet...

Oh gods what happens when puberty hits????

>>35710847
Primitive two way text communications are a hell of a long way from an internet.

>>35710879
But apparently pretty close to 4chan

>>35710869
For Aura, us, Lyann, 20. Okaba, 10, so he can unlock all his noble jobs and we can swap him in-dungeon later. Honoria I don't even know what she's doing.

>>35710870
When puberty hits dad ships us out. The girls are clingy to us already. He wants grandkids, but likely not quite yet.

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>>35710879
Pretty much how the net started. Once you get text you then work on images, audio, and then video.

And hey, it'll basically the beginning of fantasy 4chan. Dear lord the world may not be ready... We may inadvertently turn many people into NEETs!

>>35710929
Oh, Mako 10 as well.

>>35710869
Yes to 20.
It not only allows for switching to other jobs but also unlocks the hybrid jobs.

>>35710997
That's profoundly wrong.

>>35710869
I level 20.
Which jobs do we have active?
Paladin,Arcanist, and anything else?

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>>35710950
I can see this happening, would be funny. But you need porn to truly power its evolution properly... oh god catgirls and elfgirls are real in this world....

We'll have broadband within a couple of years

***
It feels like these monsters are purposefully aiming for Honoria first. Every single time

After a while, Honoria quits the frontlines and moves to the back... and they start trying to get past your party members and go for her.

It seems like they can feel she's the lowest level member of your team.

It feels as if they are giving your team a good fight, mostly because virtually none of you is at their main job right now.

After a while, however, you find a treasure chest at the end of a long hallway. No other mobs are visible... just a long hallway.

"Traps?" ~asks Aura
"Almost certainly" ~says Lyann
"Could we send a summon ahead?" ~asks Honoria
"Not really. You can rule their actions on a spot, or send them to attack something, but you cant just tell them "walk ahead", sadly" ~adds Eldric

Mako:"Could you please keep using this message system, lord Eldric? I cant hear what you are saying to eachother"
Eldric: "Ah, of course. Apologies. We found a chest at the end of a hallway."
Mako: "Oooh, it's probably trapped?"
Aura:"That's what I said!"
Mako:"Can you send a summon?"
Lyann: "Sadly no"

*Just walk up to it yourself. You're tanky
*Ignore it and keep looking for the floor boss
*Other

>>35711220
>*Other
Turn on bounty hunter temporarily and search for traps

>>35711220
>*Other
throw a rock ahead of our path.

use a pointy stick like a minesweeper...

do we have a standard 10 ft pole?

>>35711272
We can make a ten foot pole.

Or just make mountains around the chest.

>>35711220
>Real life Catgirl on Elf on Man Threesome streaming over the net.
>Combing the fluffy tails of foxgirls, who then also join in on the fun
>Fantasy Porn Sites record it all for eternity

The world may not survive the collective boner of all the various races. One thing's for sure, Succubi and Incubi are going to go far in this business.

>>35711220
*Just walk up to it yourself. You're tanky
lets be brave

>>35711220
*Other
Switch Lyann to Dancer and have her Dance to restore HP to us as we move forward, throwing [Iron Ingots] to trigger the traps.

>>35711220
>*Just walk up to it yourself. You're tanky
with>>35711255
Bounty hunter* didn't know we had it* might as well be usefull for something.

>>35711220
Rock all the walls and floors, making a custom cavern and get the chest ourself.

No detect magic currently.

>>35711413
>>35711255
I don't think we got Bounty Hunter; a lot of people were against getting Ranger up to 20, saying that it was essentially useless.

>>35711464
Then you haven't been paying any attention at all. Congratulations.

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>>35711255
Oh right we can do that

Yes, you can see several traps on the floor and walls towards the chest. Well, they go from wall to wall, so you cant just walk by next to them, sadly.

Now that you can see the exact spot where they are, you can summon right on top of them to force them to trigger, however.

Well, it feels extremely odd, calling all these Lyann's just to get them hurt...

Anyway, you make it to the chest unimpeded. The traps did massive damage, enough so to destroy your summons each time.

roll 1d1000

<-- how's this pic for mom? i cant find a pic i like for her

Rolled 455 (1d1000)

>>35711577

Rolled 815 (1d1000)

>>35711577

Rolled 548 (1d1000)

>>35711577

Rolled 678 (1d1000)

>>35711577

>>35711577
Pic feels a little too...ara ara for her?

>>35711498
Then do you have an updated character sheet for Eldrick? Because the latest one from last week shows Ranger 16.

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>>35711577
lets do this.

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>>35711577
How about something more like pic related?

>>35711687
>not even noticing there was one in this thread
>>35707387

Just...don't vote. Ever.

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>>35711636
I guess you are right
>>35711687
no, sorry
>>35711769
not bad. Seems a bit plain... I dont quite like the hairstyle, tho. What do you think of this one, blonde?
>>35711593
this is the lowest (best) so we are going with it

[Runic][Skull Helmet][3 slots]
This metallic helmet adopts to the user, giving it a charge attack that deals double damage as a basic melee attack with a +10 to hit
[Ram] +10 to charge attack roll. Double damage on charge attack damage
20g

Well, it looks like a good helmet, but noone on our party is the type to rush ahead into melee

We continue exploring the dungeon, and find that the boss setup on this room looks quite complicated.

There is a jester-like boss in the middle of the largest room we have seen so far in any dungeon, and there is a metal grid for a floor.

Lava flows under the grid, and we can see small ads running around in the room, dressed like smaller versions of tje clown boss.

The whole room reads like a single enormous trap. Looking up, you can see the dungeon heart.

Oooh, its finally here! we have finally reached the final floor of a dungeon, uh?

"Well, do you want to take on the boss?" ~asks Okaba
"Just remember to spare the dungeon heart." ~says Honoria

*Take the boss
*Go back home for the day. We did enough leveling
*Other

>>35711931
>*Take the boss

>>35711931
>*Take the boss
summons everywhere.

>>35711931
*Take the boss
save the helmet for brass

>>35711931
Damn that'll go well with a weaponthane.

Also, wait, aren't we at like level 21? I thought we made it past level 26 the other day.

*Take the boss
Make sure lyann is dancer, and we should turn on arcanist. If it looks like normal spell damage works against this guy, then do a Dragon Force -> Die for Power combo and kill it.

>>35711931
How is everyone on the HP/MP department? Never take on a boss when you're not close to top form.

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>>35711636
hah, found the sauce
Yeah, too ara ara
http://youtu.be/MpfI2TjwaA8

>>35711931
>*Take the boss

As a note guys. We've a few cards. And we should look into getting more once we have a bit more money. And talk about adding a few cards to some of the gear we have on. We've about 22 slots open.
Once OP ends thread. We should talk about this. very nice options.

>>35712019
I like the overkill plan. Let's do this.

>>35709375
>>>Not doing X will prevent her from reaching her full potential
>>Wrong
>I am not wrong, we were already told that doing X increases learning rate
I don't think you quite understand what the words "full potential" mean.
She can develop slower, and still reach the same end result.

>>35712019
Eldric Lightbringer
9 years old Human
Level 12 Avenger, 23 Noble, 10 Paladin, 27 Ranger, 27 Scion, 27 Wizard
Off: 10 Healer, 10 Knight

>>35712020
>How is everyone on the HP/MP department?
does it matter when we have
3391/5701 HP
413/713 MP
and basically unlimited of both. we can just do huge casts of heal. and cover any ones back by tanking when things get bad.

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>>35712021
If we can change hair color, something like this except blonde, then?

>>35712114
>She can develop slower, and still reach the same end result.
retarded.
Would you rather have 1 million today tax free or
1million 15 years from now tax free?
>No difference, but now = better.

>>35709720
>Mako also has no trouble agreeing to our proposition, and happily joins your party, albeit she is a bit saddened to learn she's not actually going.
amsad
why won't we let her come with?

>>35712114
That's not how it works in the read world dude. Or this world. The earlier years are the most important, and everyone needs every advantage they can get

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>>35712021
Or maybe an older version of pic related

I wonder... What happens if we cast dragon force through our sword with the MP eater on? What about using die for power with HP eater? I imagine die for power would still kill us and all but if we were raised below max HP would we gain the health?

>>35712114
You are stunting her growth. It is proven it is harder to learn new things later.

>>35712162
>1yr old baby

You make chinese dragon mothers proud. You fucking monster.

>>35712223
If you can have a dollar for free, would you? Considering our levels she is in more danger of tripping on stairs then monsters.

>>35712211
1. not accelerating something to the max speed it can go =! stunting.
2. By your argument we should be power leveling lyann and eldrick as well 24/7 specifically inclasses that gives int and wis
3. >It is proven it is harder to learn new things later.
you pulled this out of your ass.
the end results are measurable with attributes in this world. we are a 9 year old that can lift with one hand more than the strongest person alive on earth today. Boosting her int at age 1 instead of age 3 doesn't mean that her end result int would be higher because she got it boosted earlier.

>>35709982
>"Because you have 4 different races in your party, you can select a special bonus"
now i want to try to form a party with 6 different races to see what happens
(6 is the max party size, yes?)

>>35712282
1. Not taking something for free = stupid
2. We are doing out best, plots just have to be resolved.
3. Simple math = 1+2=3, 2=2.

There is NO reason to no do it other than stalling for nothing.

>>35712223
>making a 1yr old baby stuck in a 15yr old's body, magically smarter and better able to adapt to her new body with absolutely no danger to herself and without aging her any further than she's already aged = monster.

Sure thing buddy. It's obvious you're trolling at this point. Hope you've had your fun. Btw haven't we already done the same thing with our baby sister some?

>>35712211
But not impossible. The real thing you have to fear is educating them badly. The ignorant learn better and faster than the stupid.

For example, it takes around 2000 repetitions for a given movement to become muscle memory. It'll take about 10k reps to undo *bad* memory and replace it with the correct one. This is why masters prefer the student not know the first thing about martial arts, no bad habits to undo!

>>35712282
>you pulled this out of your ass.
National Research Council Canada says that languages, at least, are proven to be harder to learn as people age.
http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/dimensions/issue5/aaron_newman.html

>>35712019
>Also, wait, aren't we at like level 21? I thought we made it past level 26 the other day.

Oh, you are right, I didint notice and was using the wrong floor numeration. This is floor 31

[Terror Lord lvl 35]

"Alright, let's try and go back to our original classes for this... Honoria, do you know anything about this boss fight? It's your city, after all"
"No... wait, I've heard that we should stay as close as possible to the walls, even tho we will take damage that way."

Indeed, the whole floor looks like a giant trap

"Alright, let's try and lure it to us, then. Let's stay next to the walls, alright?"
"Alright"

As soon as we enter the room, the doors close behind us and start pushing us towards the room.

"Think you could have mentioned this, princess!?" ~asks Aura as she is pushed into the room
"All I knew was to stick to the walls!"
"Alright lets do that, then, everyone, this way!"

Your party moves towards the left of the room, and the walls grow horrible screaming heads that begin shouting, dealing [Wind] Magic damage, and casting [silence] on us.

Thankfully, their magical attack power is low, and don't manage to make it past our MDV

As soon as the door is lined up with the rest of the walls, the <Terror Lord> starts moving towards us, cartwheeling and dancing as it cackles.

"Ugh... clowns"

Lyann uses [Slow], but it doesnt hit the MDV of the boss.
The minions are effected, and begin moving... extremely slowly.

"Don't leave the walls!"
"Are you sure? because they really don't like us!"

1/?

>>35711577
milf

>>35712415
spam summons, while obaka does his magic nuke thing.

>>35712415
Dragon Force with Die for Power, man. Blow that clown into teeny tiny pieces.

>>35712373
My health teacher points the old Romanian situation, orphans everywhere, not being taught anything. When American adopted them they were proven to be held back, even with additional help.

And to use your example - why not do 2000 repetitions now when we have time?

>>35712494
Your examples have no meaning in a world where you can send a normal person down into a dungeon and they come up smarter than einstein.

>>35712154
False analogy
its
>Would you rather 1 million today
or
>Would you rather 1 million + 15 years worth of interest, investment returns, and inflation adjustment. delivered in 15 years
end result is the same in both.

>>35712162
>That's not how it works in the read world dude
absolutely right
>Or this world.
pulled straight out of your ass

In this world, you can level up your int/wis at any time by killing monsters with the right job enabled.
So in the real world, improper childhood development means you will never be as smart. In this world you can always catch up via XP earning.

>>35712366
>1. Not taking something for free = stupid
That is a completely different argument
>2. We are doing out best, plots just have to be resolved.
FALSE! We are spending a LOT of time on fun and playing and socializing.
>3. Simple math = 1+2=3, 2=2.
That... what? this has nothing to do with the argument in question.

>>35712515
>False analogy
I am not using an analogy. I was using it to represent that some asshat wants
the same result we can get in a week or wait years.
Hence exactly what I said.
>Would you rather 1 million today
or
>Would you rather 1 million + 15 years worth of interest, investment returns, and inflation adjustment. delivered in 15 years
end result is the same in both.
that is not the same.

>>35712399
>Failing to read this hard
The post you are replying to EXPLICITLY mentions that this is NOT EARTH and that it is a world that works on RPG like stats.
On earth, people don't have stats. On earth languages get harder to learn as you age. On that world, you can power level your int at any age and there is no difference between 500 int acquired at age 1 and 500 int acquired at age 100

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>>35712424
I dont think thats bad

****
Okaba pops a Dragonforce into the Terrorlord's face

It looks almost dead.

"Eldric, could you do the honors and....?"

*Blast it with Dragonforce
*Summons up its ass
*Other

>>35712630
>I dont think thats bad
I didn't mean it as a bad thing :)

>>35712630
>*Blast it with Dragonforce
I feel sad we didn't unlock dreadnaught.

>>35712630
>*Blast it with Dragonforce
blasty blast

>>35712504
Ok fine. But in this world you can send a normal person down into a dungeon and they come up with more intelligence.

>>35712515
The analogy is wrong and not mine
more accurate is would you put your money in a bank now or hide it in your bed and wait a year and then invest it? You'll lose out your interest and for no good reason and never catch up.

>>35712543
1. The post I responded to was irrelevant too.
2. Which is plots.
3. I might have messed up, what I was trying to say was that you level up now, you'll always be ahead.

>>35712601
But there is a difference between 500 int acquired now and 500 int acquired at age 100 because you'll also get 500 int at age 100 if you start at age 1.

>>35712664
>more accurate is would you put your money in a bank now or hide it in your bed and wait a year and then invest it? You'll lose out your interest and for no good reason and never catch up.
That is explicitly what I was disagreeing with.
you don't lose the interest. in the real world you do. in this world you can make up the interest via XP.
500 int is 500 int.

>>35712630
>Dragonforce

Blast it with the hardest magic know to man.

>>35712664
>3. I might have messed up, what I was trying to say was that you level up now, you'll always be ahead.
in order for this to be the case you must be leveling up 24/7 for the rest of your life.

Scenario 1:
Grind 1 day today, don't do it again for a year
Scenario 2:
Wait a month, then grind 30 days in a row

Scenario 2 is obviously ahead, because 30 days of grinding provide 30x XP than 1 day of grinding.

Doing it today only makes you "ahead" if you intend to keep up that pace. However, you could always play today, and then catch up on the XP another day (by cutting play time at that future point)

>>35712678
The interest is the amount of time we have afterwards. When you have 10 int at age 2, you can have another 10 int at age 3. But when you have not int at age 2, you'll only get 10 at age 3

>>35712733
That's procrastination. And stupid procrastination at that when we can get it for free. What stops us from grinding 30 days in a row in scenario 1? That's irrational.

>>35712782
So yes, you want to turn her life into a living hell of doing nothing but leveling. For her own good, of course.

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I wanted to post this image but its too large for 4chan. Hiow's this for a wizard Mako?
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1498200?tags=blade_%26_soul

>>35712692
>>35712661
>>35712642
Dragonforce


The Terrorlord reaches us, and cackles!
It casts [Terror] on our party
Honoria runs away in terror... she runs to another wall
The rest of the party endures the boss' spell

Eldric shoots him dead with his own Dragonforce.... his MP is full.

The boss vanishes, as do his adds, and the heads on the walls.

"Well, that wasn't so bad"
"Hold on let me tell Mako"

You text Mako to let her know that you are all alright... well, Honoria eventually calms down.

The terrorlord left
x2 [Legendary][Material][Terror Shard]
Uhmm... normally, you would get just one of these, Must be Lyann being on the party that changed that

Should we take it to a craftsman?
*A Weaponsmith
*An Armorer

Uhmm.. the ads didint give anything when they died.

And your sword replenished your MP... was that actually meant to work that way?

>>35712735
>When you have 10 int at age 2, you can have another 10 int at age 3. But when you have not int at age 2, you'll only get 10 at age 3
Complete and utter horseshit.
You can grind a fuckton of it via XP, irrelevant of your age.

>The interest is the amount of time we have afterwards.
>>35712782
>That's procrastination.

1. you two are falsely assuming that this is not represented via a stats as well.
Remember that stats increase naturally as you grow up and learn things. So getting an education could very well account for a +int. and can be done whenever.

2. even if it was true
>All that matters in life is power
>Fond childhood memories has no worth
>Arming a child with dangerous magic has no risks
>Forcing a child to skip their formative years has no psychological drawbacks and no negative effects.

>>35712813
So no, I am not. She's just following us around. You're not providing any reason why you think that. But this is a very good exercise for my debate skills.

>>35712818
ahahha the sword really does help in restoring mp even with Dragonforce against bossess that is so useful we can spam our most powerful attack without losing MP.

>>35712818
>*A Weaponsmith
Lyann could use a better weapon

>>35712818
sell them and split the cash equally between the party members.

>>35712855
>nuh uh!
>my debate skills.

Your comedy skills you mean.

>>35712859
I have been saying that we need to get more MP drain weapons for our allies for a while now.

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>>35712886
I chuckled a bit. brb gonna get a sandwich

Weapon
Armor

We got 2 shards
pic related, brb

>>35712818
>*A Weaponsmith
it could be useful for some one
also saw the pic you wanted i like it alot

>>35712910
Make a helm and weapon for lyann, then.

Can we make items into a set?

>>35712818
>Weaponsmith
Legendary weapon for lyann.

If we have leftover, armor I guess.

>>35712910
fuck it both then

>>35712910
Weapon we don't have any legendary weapons apart from ours.

>Terror shards
does that mean if we combine enough of them we get a whole terror?
or at least a terror gem?

>>35712835
And we can grind a fuckton of it afterwards too. On top of the stats earlier.

>The interest is the amount of time we have afterwards.
That's... correct?

1. Then we can go to school and get +int on top of what ever we do. Stats grow from fighting too.

2. I think it is
>Ok you're really getting this out of your ass, try harder
>We are making fond childhood memories right now, fun times with our friends
>Then when is there 'no risks'? And we can teach/train her. It's like potty training and I don't think you are against that.
>What?

>>35712886
>>35712910
It seems to be working

>>35706381
>The prince is fine with accepting both girls into the orphanage when we go back to Albion
NOPE!
sorry, already emotionally bonded. we are keeping them.

>>35713000
>And we can grind a fuckton of it afterwards too. On top of the stats earlier.
Absolutely, we COULD. which is why I EXPLICITLY said we would fall behind if we were to grind 24/7
But in reality we WON'T. because that is not what we have been doing ever since the quest started. we do a little grinding on the side and most time is spent socializing.

Hence, why i explicitly stated that we can do more socializing now, when its most critical, and later when they are older they can do a little less socializing and more grinding to catch up to the "missed" grinding we would be passing on now.

>>35713032
No we're not.

>>35713066
>Wanting to throw away zoe and stelle
you monster.

>>35713085
>letting brass raise them right is 'throwing them away'

Sure sounds like a pervert wants to do horrible things to babies.

>>35713064
>But in reality we WON'T
So we can't catch up, what makes you think we'll grind 24/7 if we don't grind now? Seriously its irrational.

She can and only can socialize with us in the dungeon. We're not telling he to go grind. In fact WE are the ones grinding and she's just there soaking up XP

>>35713109
Brass can have Stella back because he's already be some sort of a big brother. But Zoe stays with us.

>>35713109
1. Brass isn't in the orphanage
2. Nothing that I have said has even remotely implied I want to do anything lewd to them.
Both girls have clearly emotionally attached to eldrik and lyann. in particular zoe who has never been treated well by anyone before. Just tossing them in an orphanage after a whole month of that is cruel.

>>35713162
No. Zoe especially does not stay with us. Because of deviants like you.

>>35713131
>what makes you think we'll grind 24/7 if we don't grind now?
>I don't understand that there is something in between "a few hours a week" and "24/7"

>>35713191
Then we can grind "a few hours a week" afterwards.

>>35713180
>Rescue a baby that doesn't even know how to speak
>Teach them to speak
>Get them their first memories
>Toss them away
>Call anyone who disagrees with tossing them away a sexual predator/deviant and accuse them of wanting to molest the child
>Projecting this hard
We don't want to fuck her anon.

>>35713180
Why do you want to get rid of her so badly? She's already attached to us and most likely wont want to leave anyway.

>>35713200
>Then we can grind "a few hours a week" afterwards.
And if we do a few +X than it will mean we catch up.
But now, she can be a child instead of a super soldier. seriously, what is with trying to turn a 1 year old into an unstopable engine of war? we have plenty of years to do this later

>>35713207
>>Toss them away
There's that phrase again. You should check the definitions of the words in it, because it's not describing what's happening.

>We don't want to fuck her anon.
Yeah, and i have a bridge to sell you.

>>35713223
I'm disgusted by everyone talking about power leveling her and I want her far away from our influence.

>>35713231
She can still be a child. Ignoring the fact you're ignoring the fact it helps her develop, She's just sitting there. A super xp soak. Why not?

>>35713235
Yeah, nah. You're projecting. The only one who said anything about fucking her is you. The rest of us want to keep her around because she's so goddamn adorable.

>>35713267
Luckily you're not disgusted by anyone then, because we're just taking her to dungeons and holding her hands.

>>35713272
Deviant, pls. If she was ugly you'd be dumping her so hard she'd get whiplash.

>>35713267
Hey, I don't want to powerlevel her just as much as you do but I don't see that as a reason to give her away at the soonest possible moment.

>>35713235
>>Toss them away
>There's that phrase again. You should check the definitions of the words in it, because it's not describing what's happening.
Kicking someone out of your home and into an orphanage is, in fact, tossing them away

also
>>35706381
>>35713032
>>35713066
>>>The prince is fine with accepting both girls into the orphanage when we go back to Albion
>>NOPE!
>>sorry, already emotionally bonded. we are keeping them.
>No we're not.

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>>35712985
>or at least a terror gem?
sounds legit to me

>>35713032
Its because you named them, isint it?

***

Well, Okaba says he's happy as it is with all the information he got today.
Aura just wants some snack money. That sussubus body... she eats and eats and doesn't get fat, where does all that food go?

Mako says she did nothing so she doesnt feels she needs a share.

Honoria wants some of the steel ingots, which we are fine giving to them.

When you go back to the palace, you get double hug/tackled by Zoe and Stella.

(wasnt there a word to describe that? tackle + hug?)

"The young lord is back!" -she says happily as she licks Eldric's face with a smile
"Yun Lold!" ~says Zoe as she copies Stella.

Ah... this would be nice if they hadn't pushed you back into the garden. Is that a rock shoved against your back?

After taking the girls off from you, you greet Mako, who walks out from our room with a worried face.

"..." ~she says, blushing

It appears in the chat window

Mako:"I was worried"

Ah...it finally happened. We got her subtitles. Well, that's useful.

"It's alright, Mako. We are all unhurt" ~you assure her
"..." ~she looks down and covers her face with both hands
Mako: "I was really worried, lord Eldric"

*You dont have to call me lord anything, just call me eldric, or ill start calling you princess, alright?
*Hug her
*Nod thankfully, and go into the room
*Other