>>35453839
So as of right now, we are being shot at by Lorenne and taking cover inside our litter?

Damnit, this is where we should have brought Chara or Despina's archery skills.

What else is in the litter gear wise? A shield? A helmet? Anything?

How cooperative is Orestiad at the moment?

>>35453960
we are wearing armor

>>35454008
I forget then, how effective has our armor been against arrows in the past?

Kini indicating she came for us alone makes me wonder about the possibility of rushing her, somehow. Possibly of Orestiad can provide us cover using manipulation of rocks.

>>35453960
>So as of right now, we are being shot at by Lorenne and taking cover inside our litter?
Yes.

>What else is in the litter gear wise? A shield? A helmet? Anything?
You are wearing leather armor and a mail shirt.

>How cooperative is Orestiad at the moment?
Not really at all. You failed both your rape-as-seduction rolls last time.

>>35454066
>I forget then, how effective has our armor been against arrows in the past?
You have never worn armor when you were shot by arrows in the past. If she has/uses bodkin arrows, they will probably penetrate your mail shirt to some effect; otherwise they will probably not.

>>35453839
Ask Adelle and Erosette if they know where Kini is.
Ask Adelle if she thinks she can do something to her from this distance, if not then ask the brown cutie to do it and we'll treat her nicer.
Is there any way we can trap her with the landscape? MAybe send some undead to cut her off? Probably not, so get some undead archers to fire back, grab a shield to help against arrows, and ride towards her, maybe get Kini to go through the forest(if there's woods here), get near her, track/observe and cut her off/attack if we tell her to, give her some weapons, maybe a pair of daggers.
This is my initial idea at least, feel free to discuss.

>>35454127
>. If she has/uses bodkin arrows, they will probably penetrate your mail shirt to some effect; otherwise they will probably not.
Also getting shot in the face isn't very fun either. Though we've taken a few hits elsewhere.

>>35454232
Kini is stated to likely be sleeping in a separate littler nearby. Is Erosette with us? I figured she and her army are still currently battling for control of the city and we ourselves were simply waiting here in the littler. I could be wrong though.

>>35454285
>Is Erosette with us? I figured she and her army are still currently battling for control of the city and we ourselves were simply waiting here in the littler.
She is. Well, it's not for "control of the city," the strategic goal is to wipe out enemy forces, not to take directly seize territory.

Rolled 20 (1d20)

making a sacrifice to the dice gods

>>35454337
As well as replenish her forces with the dead I imagine.

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>35454355
Way to waste a good roll, you idiot.

>>35454364
the dice gods want good sacrifices not bad

>>35454355
That is somewhat comforting. I hope they are pleased. But what to do right now.

>>35453839
Ask adelle to try to give us her current location, if we can figure out where she is shooting from that is already useful.

>>35454387
>Ask adelle to try to give us her current location, if we can figure out where she is shooting from that is already useful.
I am sorry to tell you that it is already established that the litter blocks geomancy. That's why you were keeping Veronique in it. You could have Adelle crawl over the far side of the litter, though.

>>35454420
do we have any undead archers near by is so have them return fire wile we make a move to go after her

Okay, to try to put everything in one post (I maybe fucked up with the OP):

- currently, Erosette and her entire army are engaging the Terlise. There are no undead in your immediate vicinity.
- the litter blocks geomancy, which is the focus of both Veronique and Adelle's abilities
- Kini's elsewhere nearby, almost certainly
- Veronique is ill-disposed towards you
- you are wearing light armor, and have a weapon or two
- Lorenne is shooting at you from nearby, you know her location when you last saw her (that's why you dived into the litter in the first place; you saw her)

I think that's everything.

>>35454420
Sorry about that, forgetful
>>35454504
Okay, not the best situation. But what to do with it...

>>35454504
What is the litter made of by the way, any chance of us ripping out a piece of the floor or wall and using it like a shield? Just something to protect our head?

Even if we can't do that, it's risky but the way I see this going down is we somehow get in contact with Kini, we have her transform into a fast small animal. Both of us start to run in separate paths, Lorenne will no doubt try to shoot us and we simply have to try to dodge her arrows. Kini will pounce to stop her from shooting arrows, distract Lorenne (who won't be fooled by then) but before she can harm Kini we'll be nearby and ready to take her.

The issue now is just getting to Kini without being shot/killed.

>>35454504
i got 1 plan: we are the target but she might try to hurt Adelle so i one plan thats risky is we make a run out in the open to buy time for Adelle to ether make defenses or caught her

>>35454580
I don't think Adelle will be making any defenses or would do any good herself against what is probably a very strong and powerful swordswoman and archer.

>>35454504
How far are Erosette's group? Do the undead listen to us at all, can we call out to them? Anyway, I assume the litter is some sort of wooden construction that covers the inhabitatants excep for the entrance(s), so can we get Adelle to get out on the side that doesn't have an arrow in it, and would theoretically protect her from Lorenne's arrows?
Is Lorenne far enough that she can't just circle around us and endanger Adelle?

>>35454574
>What is the litter made of by the way, any chance of us ripping out a piece of the floor or wall and using it like a shield? Just something to protect our head?
It's wood, and seems thick enough to stop arrows so far, so yeah, sure.

>>35454504
can we call out to kini to help by distracting her spcifacly telling her not to attack so she can stay alive

>>35454595
>How far are Erosette's group? Do the undead listen to us at all, can we call out to them?
They are a fair distance away, in the middle of a battle. They're thoroughly distracted.

>Anyway, I assume the litter is some sort of wooden construction that covers the inhabitatants excep for the entrance(s), so can we get Adelle to get out on the side that doesn't have an arrow in it, and would theoretically protect her from Lorenne's arrows?
It's basically a wooden box with a lid; the lid is currently off.

>Is Lorenne far enough that she can't just circle around us and endanger Adelle?
It's been like two seconds IC since she shot you, and she is a good distance away, so yes.

>>35454595
Adelle and Orestiad might as well stay inside the littler, at least here they are protected from arrows. We know where Lorenne is, at least we saw where she was shooting from, and that already is close to the full extent of Adelle's usefulness in this situation.

>>35454672
>shot you
shot at you.

>>35454672
Can Adelle just hang a food out so she can touch the ground but still be pretty secure? Ask her if she can't make some pitfalls or something at a distance anyway, I think she should be able to tell when orenne is about to fire at her to ground-senses and get back in the litter before she's shit anyway.

>>35454574
Anyway, to sum this idea
>Rip off some of the floor to protect our head with, like a shield
>Run to Kini's place without being shot
>Tell her to transform into an animal. Have her into the bushes to be hidden and run for Lorenne
>We run in a separate direction while avoid getting hit, perhaps in a curve, or periodically taking cover behind trees and rocks, but moving closer
>When Kini pounces on Lorenne, we make a beeline toward her with our sword and/or tackle her.

>>35454735
>get back in the litter before she's shit anyway
But anon, Adelle's always been shit.

>>35453839
Run to Kini, take some cover.

>>35454746
>>35454978
Okay, roll 1d20.

>>35453839

I hate to break in at this late date, but Orestiad is kind of a silly name, because it's the name of a trilogy of Greek plays about Orestes.

>>35455130
Her name is Veronique, she is an Orestiad (which is a kind of nymph).

is ever one also to scared to roll as well

>quest dies because no one will roll.

Seriously though, you're not going to die because of one bad roll.

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>35455100
please favor me dice gods

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>35455100
I actually was in another thread. Rolling now

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>35455100
>>35455197
Fine.

>>35455197
we have had 2 terrible rolls in a row and im scared dont know about everyone else tho

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Going to take a shower to try to wake myself up (new roommate snores like a motherfucker, fucked up my sleep today), brb.

>>35455462
What else can we do but draw on our skills as a swordsage? Draw our sword in defensive postition

Also fuck we should've told kini run for reinforcements earlier.

>>35455462
Go in for a swipe/stab, then use the wood in our hand to distract her(maybe by throwing it at her?), swipe her legs or try gettig a good kick in. I want to do a non-lethal takedown, but not sure how well that'd work.
Also, maybe try looking in the direction Kini ran and shouting "NOW!" in an opportunate moment to distract her and knock her out or slice the tendonds in her leg.
I'm going to enjoy breaking her in.

>>35455462

Attack. This is our chance. Fight with whatever is Baron's most "natural" style, don't try to force anything just yet.

>>35455462
this>>35455542
but also tell kini to get adelle and tell her to help capture her from a distance with her geomancy

>>35455462
Get in defensive, test her abilities.

>>35455542
>>35455567
>>35455587
Looks like an offensive stance wins.

>>35455862
Shit, I mean, roll 1d20.

Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>35455862
Do you think we could whip our dick out and plow into her and pin her at the same time with one flowing movement?

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>35455883
We get bonusesfrom sword sagery, right?

>>35455908
No.

>>35455955
This is the thing that you're best at, so yes. otoh, she's no pushover in combat either, so [??].

>>35455976
>This is the thing tht you're best at
>we're better at sword then sex
She has no chance.

>>35455976
are you taking the 12 or the 8 im confused

>>35456041
Taking the 12.

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>>35456100

If she's got a leg injury, capitalize on that. Keep circling and striking, keeping a mostly defensive game going unless we see a good opportunity. Try to force her to step, or at the very least turn a lot, and if we're in a position where she has to put her weight on the hurt leg to be in a defensive stance, press.

>>35456100
Is the chunk of wood near us, and do we think we can kick it into her?

>>35456100
i support this action>>35456152
but also see if we cant get some information out of her like who sent her or hired her

>>35456152
>>35456211
This

>>35456152
>>35456211
Roll 1d20 for combat.

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>35456293

Here we go

>>35456100
Look at her leg when opportunity arises and shout "KINI, NOW!", then go knock her out.
Maybe try picking up the piece of wood or kicking it at her/under/between her leg(s) to mess up her rhythm.

It's premature, but should we talk about what we ought to do if we DO capture lorenne?

What should we tell her, our suspicions, etc.

>>35456430

We should break her into our rape toy. I think Kini deserves to take something from her too. Is she into girls?

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>>35456467

Knock her out, tie her up. See if we can get Erosette to post a guard once she wins her battle.

>>35456467
Don't let go for a second, have adelle to tie her down, or grab her sword or something.

We won't be safe until we're sure she won't hurt us.

Then we can start talking.

>>35456430
We should probably start by Recapping with Kini what we do know for sure, and separate the suspicions.

>>35456467
have adelle lock her in place so she is unable to escape and began interrogating her

>>35456430
Capture her, take her back home, break her.
We caught her trying to assassinate us multiple ties, that's easily enough to get he executed.
>>35456466
>Kini
>into girls
>confident enough to do what you're suggesting
>doesn't just want our approvel, and hope for our kindness
you're a funny guys, anon.
>>35456467
Punch to the face, solar plexus, or throat,maybe choke her until she passes out of we can't do punching well. Possibly use the hilt of our sword.
Then tie her up and bring her back after frisking her thoroughly, and collecting her weapons and Kini.

>>35456430
Brutal rape in every hole. Bondage, stocks, humiliation. Whips. Paddles. Oversized dildos.
Mindbreak.

It's a very open situation with plenty of options.

Inb4 we never capture her.

>>35456500
>>35456526
Adelle is back at camp, people.

Remember guys, this is not a monstergirl so rape is not OK.

Unless of course we get taunted into doing it / erosette / adelle asks us to do it.

>>35456561
>rape is not OK.
She tried to kill us in a warzone and got captured. This is 100% rape time.

>>35456561
She tried to kill us, probably killed our brother, and has our little brother around her fingers.
I think no one unbiased would fault us for a bit of dominance/denial/punishment rape.
>inb4 abusefags back out of this while still saying that what we did to Kini was okay and we shouldn't try to fix her

>>35456530
>We caught her trying to assassinate us multiple ties, that's easily enough to get he executed.
The question is, is that what we truly want? Or would that be best?

>>35456561
Also this.

On a serious note, let's see if we can't discern why she wants to kill us. Or if we should tell her what we know, such as she being in league with our brother.

They probably want us dead so that Levy becomes head of the family for all the wealth and power. But we couldn't give two shits about wealth and power, we just like adventuring and monstergirls. Furthermore our marriage links the families.

If our brother really loves Lorenne, surely, we could come into an agreement. He can have his power and prestige, hell we'll place him as head of the Nell while we're out "on business".

I dunno, just some ideas, but having Lorenne killed and putting a rift between us and our brother would be unfortunate if it could have been avoided.

>>35456624
>abusefags
Anon please, don't make this a tribal thing.

>>35456561
>Remember guys, this is not a monstergirl so rape is not OK.

lol what bizarre world do you live in

>>35456632
Or we could execute them both.

>>35456632
>not executing both Lorenne and our brother eventually
I mean,sure, we can hold off on the rape and just talk to her and threaten her at this point. I'd honestly prefer just keeping her captive withsome light torture and shit at least until we get back home to get as much information out of her as we can, but she's gonna pay by at least being a fucktoy.
And we are not helping her or our brother to power, evenifwe don't execute them.

>>35456644
A world where raping monstergirls is completely fine but raping people isn't?

We have been told this before you know.

>>35456561
>Remember guys, this is not a monstergirl so rape is not OK.
But anon, that just makes it even better.

>>35456467
knock her out tire her up and drag her back to the camp make sure to keep both prisoners separate also check on kini after

>>35456709
>>We have been told this before you know.
No we haven't. Remember when we got Kini? They didn't know she was a monstergirl then, and they let us rape the shit out of her in the bloody jail.

>>35456705
>And we are not helping her or our brother to power, evenifwe don't execute them.
Why not? Not as if we care for that sort of thing.

He wants to play armchair general with the Nell forces and bathe in money while we sip beers at home surrounded by our harem, go ahead.

>>35456709
see >>35456724

>>35456488
>>35456530
>>35456742
Knock her out looks to be winning. Roll 1d20.

>>35456644
>>35456561
Look, I'm just saying we shouldn't rape her straight away. Try to get some information out of her and clear out this mess. Figure out what's going on.
We never really cared what was ok or not, I know.

>>35456752
Hmm, point taken.

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>35456785
This is the part where we fumble the ball

>>35456742
Eh, we can use Lorenne to show our guardian spirit cutie how nice we are to her, and how nasty we can be to bad girls/prisoners or something.

>>35456785
>rolling to knock out a defeated opponent

Come on understudy.

>>35456802
Knew it.

>>35456802
did you fucking have to say that make a sacrifice to the dice gods right now

>>35456802
thanks, anon, you fucked everything up
I can't believe Baron can't even knock out a girl, for fuck's sake

>>35456821
You've only got one arm pinned.

>>35456767
Holy shit anon you cannot be this dumb.

They murdered our brother, they tried to murder us, why would they let us swan off just because we agreed to let him have it when we still have a claim on the entire thing? He'll agree to it, and we'll be riddled with arrows before we're an hour out the gate.

>>35456841
We knocked away the sword, right?
I mean, fuck, if you'd pointed out she can do shit with her free arm, we couldű1ve went for pinning her other arm and headbutting her until she sleeps.

>>35456867
The sword is in her hand still, but she can't actually use it because you've got it pinned.

>>35456867
Vaelys detected.

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>35456834
Dice for the Dice Gods
Rolls for the Roll Throne

>>35456921
vaelys? is that an infamous QM?

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>35456922
I will try to make a sacrifice on your behalf.

>>35456921
Pretty sure Vaelys doesn't like rape, so probably doesn't read TAQ.

I can see the guy's point though, this encounter has prompted a lot of dicerolls, comparatively, and yet more rolls just asking for failure to reset the entire thing and invalidate the successes.

On the other hand, going on previous experience Understudy can be trusted to not actively fuck us on a single bad roll, so yeah, he may be over-reacting a tad.

>>35456952
He is a retard who fags up threads because QMs don't carefully label every potential failure. He doesn't trip or namefag but he does harass people in the IRC (including GermanSchteel) so he's acquired a reputation.

>>35457005
Check US's twitter followers.

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>>35457005
Vaelys is one of my twitter followers.

>>35456952
Infamous quest player and an admin of the quest runner IRC channel known for demanding total transparency from QMs, insisting that MCs should have no chance of failure and for harassing QMs who don't do exactly what he wants via twitter, IRC and any other avenue he has available. Also notable for having never actually run a quest despite all the 'advice' he gives.

He's been a QTG meme recently.

>>35457074
pick up her bow she dropped earlier and threaten her to give up

>>35457170
Also, fire an arrow in her good leg.

>>35457074
>"drop it now and live through this encounter"
>be agressive once she doesn't surrender, she has a knife and we're a sword sage ffs
>pick up her sword, a branch, the piece of wood, or some dirt, throw it at her if wood or dirt
>kick her in the cunt/leg
>get the knife away and knock her out
I dunno

I'll try to catch up with happenings.

>>35457170
>>35457189
We'd need to drop our sword and give her a prettylarge opportunity to escape, we aren't very good with a bow anyway.
Not a good idea, imo.

>>35457074
Let her know that she can surrender now and she won't get any more serious wounds.Physical at least.

Also, don't pick up a bow when we already have a sword pointed at her.

>>35456430
Rape her over and over, keeping her in our basement as our personal cum dumpster and humiliating her with Adelle until her mind snaps and she becomes a vacant shell of her former self for us to rape some more.

>>35457074
Either she surrenders now and lives a little longer, or we kill her now.
Slowly move forward with our sword at the ready. Get her to attack so that we can counter and disarm her.
Figuratively or literally, doesn't matter.

>>35457074
Circle her with swipes into the dropped plank-shield. When she loses her awareness or balance go for her arms.

>>35457193
>>35457349
>>35457353
"Surrender, or else," followed by violence if necessary, seems pretty popular. Roll 2d20, first roll for getting her to surrender, second for beating her down again if she doesn't.

The DC on getting her to surrender will be really high, though.

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>35457469
good, I want to beat her, was just being civil

>>35457510
...

>>35457510
The one time we don't want to roll high...

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>35457469
Second dice

Rolled 17, 19 = 36 (2d20)

>>35457469
I've fit a bad feeling about this.
Dice Gods, have mercy!

>>35457510
>>35457538
what is happen

>>35457510
>>35457538
Woooo! Our first high rolls in forever, feels good boys

>>35457510
>>35457538
>>35457562
what the shit is going on

>>35457510
Okay, yeah, that's a really high roll.

I guess I'll put this to a vote. Does Lorenne surrender willingly, having realized that she has no chance? Since the combat roll is also really high, you can obviously beat her down. What I mean is, pick one:

- Lorenne surrenders "voluntarily" now, having seen that she has no chance
- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.

>>35457655
>>- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.
Avoiding significant permanent damage though, I assume.

>19
>18
>17
>19
something is wrong, I feel like this is just a last bit of hope, the calm before the storm
>>35457655
She surrenders willingly, but we're going to be somewhat rough when tying her up and dragging her to her prison.

>>35457655
>- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.

>>35457703
>her prison.
"Her prison" being "our cellar," right?

>>35457655
>- Lorenne surrenders "voluntarily" now, having seen that she has no chance

>>35457655
>- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.

>>35457655
- Lorenne surrenders "voluntarily" now, having seen that she has no chance

>>35457655
>- Lorenne surrenders "voluntarily" now, having seen that she has no chance
The violence will mostly come from Adelle, possibly Veronique, who was in danger of being arrowed.

>>35457655
- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.
A fitting end to the fight against our assasin

>>35457719
well, I was thinking a liter since we're in camp atm, but something similar, yes

>>35457655
- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.

Next vote is a tiebreaker.

>>35457762
surrender

>>35457655
- Lorenne does not surrender, but does not put up a fight

>>35457762
- Lorenne does not surrender, and you have to beat her down, which you do, easily.

I dont think theres a tie

>>35457758
>>35457762
...or previous vote. Right. No surrender it is.

>>35457785
ah, well, fine

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>>35457879
>Paranoia frisk continues, remove everything

>>35457879
bring her back to camp, gag her with some cloth, the throw her in a litter, we'll deal with it later

>>35457916
Why gag? This is the perfect time to try and get her to spill her secrets

>>35457879
To the Empress, the Empress!
She will wait tied in the camp until Erosette dispenses noble justice

>Lorenne could get whatever we got, but with more dom-control

>>35457879
Bind her ankles together too. She could be hiding something else in her clothes, rip/ cut that shit right off. Then drag her back into camp, and show our catch to the wife, enjoy our new-found sense of safety.

>>35457936
to make her fear/anticipate
>this guy I just killed beat meand took me prisoner
why hasn't he tried talking to me, what's going on, fuck

>>35457967
I doubt she's one who would be afraid so easily. From what she told us at the festival, she's probably seen some shit.

I mean, hell, look at the scars on her.

Why not interrogate here right now? Not like anyone else with bother us out here.

The littler is literally running distance away and all who is there is a very irritated mountain goddess who won't be of any help.

>>35458085
we can calm down a bit first, let our wife and Kini know she's been taken care of

>>35458085
In my view, mostly Adelle. She won't be happy meeting Baron's would be assassin, and she can bring many ideas to the table.

Also, Erosette. She could necrodom Lorenne or curses her into weakness. And undead will make keeping her in place easy.

>>35458085
>>35458144
Oh and I forgot. Kini definitely helped us and was expecting a reward. Se we could leave Lorenne tied up and reward Kini for her services.

>>35458170
I would like that, but I think we should wait until we've got Lorenne tied up more and under guard first. Just so she can't escape.

Let's not interrogate/rape her just yet, get her back to camp first.

I'm sure adelle wants to take part. Erosette too.

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>>35458651

Let's go at least try to observe how the battle's going, and then go check up on Kini.

>>35458680
If that can be done, ok

Okay, fair warning, I'm tired. I think this chapter may end prematurely. I'm going to go dose up on some more caffeine; if it doesn't work, I'll probably end the chapter within the next hour or two.

>>35458826
Ugh, know how you feel. At work myself and have to watch this on mobile.

>>35458826
Well ok, smut with Kini first?

Also, we have two litters don't we? Move veronique to the other litter then I guess.

>>35458651
Package our prisoners securely, we have wood and rope to make it so.

Go see Kini. Lay her down for a massage, remind her all she's done well (spying, tracking Lorenne, helping Baron twice), then try to get what she'd like when we're back at the manor while teasing her.

Okay, notes.

Make sure Oriestad DOESN'T USE THE HOLE we made to free herself or Lorenne.

>>35458908
We're not going back to the manor anytime soon, we still have a flask to find. Furthermore the "what to do with Lorenne after the smut" is also another issue we need to decide on.

Do we have sufficient evidence to turn her in or her brother?

>>35458946
its our brother

>>35458946
>turn her in

Hell yes

>our brother

Not yet.
After interrogation, probably.

>>35458916
Properly gag both of them, then?
Oh! What if we switch the prisoners to our undamaged litter?

>>35458651
>Securely tie Lorenne and make sure Oriestad doesn't try anything
>Get Kini, thank her for once again saving our life.

Perhaps this is the best time to have the "heart to heart" "Fixing" that some of you guys want.

>>35458971
I know that, typo

>>35458981
Then we had better start asking questions right now. And thinking of what we want to ask.

>>35458998
That works even better, but again, gagging gets in the way of talking which we need to do.

I have no qualms about gagging Oriestad however.

>>35458946
>Do we have sufficient evidence to turn her in or her brother?
If you want to, we could have Kini and our human maid (Eli?) do a final mission. Kini appears as Lorenne angry at Levy about the maid. Get Levy dommed and to write a letter as collateral.

Wait some time, spring the letter. Lorenne will be dominated by Erosette doing her thing.

>>35459000
>And thinking of what we want to ask.
She probably won't be in the mood to speak anyway. Nothing will be coming out of her mouth except insults and spit.

Might as well ask why she wants to kill us, as a start.

>>35459066
This

Sounds very very fun.

Also of note, what are we gonna do now? We have Lorenne in tow, do we settle that score now or keep sticking with Erosette and looking for the flask. Even as a prisoner Lorenne is likely a huge liability.

Okay, so:

- secure both Veronique and Lorenne
- talk to Kini, healing scene

Yes? That about the size of it?

>>35459121
Yeah. I mean, unless you want to add gags and symmetrical docking bondage, I don't know.

>>35459121
I think so. Also switching the two prisoners to our undamaged litter.
After the healing scene, I guess Kini will be riding with Adelle. I hope that goes okay.

>>35459121


That, and check to see how Erosette's battle is going.

>>35459066
Since he apparently does actually love Lorenne, could we not just send him a letter with something along the lines of 'I've caught your assassin, if you have a shred of honor and want to see no more harm come to our family then you will confess' and hope he gets the implication that if he doesn't, Lorenne will get the 'bad end' treatment. She does either way, but he doesn't need to know that.

>>35459164
Adelle and kini have gotten along much better recently, should be fine.

>>35459121
That works

>>35459151
>>35459164
>>35459170
>>35459199
Any particular topics you want to cover when talking to Kini, then?

>>35459211


Let's start from the beginning, how she stole from us, and we had to punish her for that, but since then, she's been a very, very good girl. And she's paid us back for the trouble she's caused us, and you'd like to promote her, put her on a level as say, Despina. Maybe even pay her, if she wants that. Say how she's been amazing, well above and beyond what was required of her, and you want to hear something that she wants, not what she thinks we want, but something she wants for her own sake, and then give it to her.

>>35459211
Background exposition
- How did she arrive at the castle and settled in
- What did she like and hate the most out of living incognito in the castle.
- Is she envious of anyone, Despina's role, Juniper's freedom, Arenne's peace?
- What did she want to do with all her loot?

>>35459337
Yeah, she did touch upon her backstory earlier but we never got the full picture.

We should also say how we owe her our life, multiple times.

If she's willing to give us what we want, then what we want is that she won't tremble in our presence, that when she thinks of what we might do to her she thinks of comforting, pleasant things. Not how to avoid punishment or fear.

>>35459419
We could drive this in further by saying the new her has only been good, and the bad things we did was to the old "bad" her, so she doesn't need to be afraid anymore.

>>35459304
Bringing up what she did, and what we did to her in response, only made things worse last time.
Please don't make the situation worse than it already is.

>>35459475
>and the bad things we did was to the old "bad" her
No, absolutely not.

Especially if we're going to be bringing up her backstory. We are NOT gonna make her ashamed of her history.

>>35459304
>>35459337
>>35459419
>>35459475
>>35459622
>>35459631
What if she brings up wanting to leave? Not saying she will - I've just started writing - but it's very possible she'll mention it.

>>35459622
This. Although I'm wondering if avoiding that issue instead of facing it head on might be one of our problems, but it likely isn't.

>>35459475
That failed horribly the last time, you know. Just talking about topics that steer clear of any mention of punishment, and praising her diligent work, saying we're proud if her, worked much better.

>>35459647
Some things aren't obtainable.

Also: what is your ideal outcome for this conversation? Kini as your loyal fuck pet, just happy instead of afraid? Something else?

>>35459709
>Kini as your loyal fuck pet, just happy instead of afraid?

Exactly that.

>>35459647
Actions have consequences. Good or bad. The consequence of her great thefts meant she would become our fucktoy and servant.

But conversely, the consequences of her exceptionally good behavior going beyond and exceeding the others is that so long we are near, she will never have reason to fear us. Those actions were good, she has been good, and so her consequences will be good.

>>35459647
One, Baron is responsible for her not being bad anymore.
Two, she can get better treatment through Baron than alone.
Three, traveling isn't out of the question, but we need her safe and back.

>>35459732
This. Her loyalty is already secured, now we just want her happiness.

>>35459647
I think her saving our life balanced out her stealing the Celestial Fire.
We'd be sad to see such a competent and skilled servant leave our service, as our bed. But she saved our life, and that needs to be repaid.

>>35459709
>Kini as your loyal fuck pet, just happy instead of afraid
Is good, maybe with a bit of the spunk back. Not too much though, so she can be smart and take a bit of initiative, but not to the point of disobedience.

>>35459709
Ideal is Kini as our happy, loyal fuck pet and spy, who we may grant travel allowances to.

>>35459709
Kini feeling safer, using her guile and skills to earn something for herself.

>>35459647

If she wants to leave, tell her we'd like for her to stay, and we think it's better for her to stay with us, point out that she gets food, protection, shelter, and dick if she stays our servant, but if she really wants to go, we'll wish her luck.

>>35459709


Precisely this.

If she brings up wanting to leave, ask her why and where.

Instead of saying she can't leave, suggest we go there with her, once we are done with this of course.

>>35459830
>who we may grant travel allowances to.
This too.

>>35459857
>>35459830

I don't really feel travel allowances are something she should get.

Too many chances of outside influences.

But we could let her decide a travel location or something if she desires and we could go with her like >>35459843

Also gives PLOT.

>>35459929
Okay, going with her to locations as reward trips is an acceptable compromise.

>>35459843
>>35459929
>>35460005


You guys do realize, that if she's asking to leave, the most likely reason is to get away from us, right?

>>35460054
If she wanted to leave to get away from us she wouldn't be asking.

>>35460158
She's terrified of us. There's a big difference if she thinks we're going to hunt her down or not

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Okay, long ass update. She's not 100% fixed right now but give her some time to fully internalize what you've said and that should be enough.

>>35460597
>five screens
Welp, time to read.

>>35460597
>not my fucktoy
ehhh, I kinda liked that, wish it didn't have to go. Even Kini seemed to "like" it.

But other than that it's good we're getting headway on this issue.

>>35460694
I liked it too, but I guess it had to go. We can always call her our pet still.
Hmm, this could be a Kini smut moment or we could go back and have some. . .exceptional fun with Lorenne.

>>35460694
>Even Kini seemed to "like" it.
She said she was our fuck toy because she was terrified of us as a consequence of the rape and abuse. It's not, like, actually her fetish.

>>35460757
I get that, still pity that term had to be tied into all that she feared.

>>35460597
Rub and relax with Kini, let her feel safe for a bit.

Then we go to Adelle and discuss what we should do with Lorenne.

>>35460597
Discuss with Adelle what's the most we can do about Lorenne

Engage double petting on Kini while we wait for Erosette

(Should we send Kini to scout the battle?)

>>35460900
Can we. . .can we brush the hair of our dog yet?

>>35460900
Kini should probably just relax for now.

She saved our life, no need to put her any closer to more danger.

>>35460936
God, what the fuck is up with you people and brushing hair? This is a quest about sex and rape, not hair-dressing.

>>35460968
Don't bully the hair fetishist anon, he doesn't get a lot of chances to indulge himself.

>>35460936
Chara is getting the B. In fact, since she already gets the D through A, we may be lacking a C to give.

>>35460968
This is beyond your understanding, anon.

>>35460597
Sit Kini up in lap as we take off our shirt and drop our pants. Kiss her, have our tongue explore every corner of her mouth as we fondle her ass and grind her groin against ours.
Circle around her asshole, but don't penetrate; I want to clean it later and take it completely in a different scene.
Get her nice and wet, and get her off once just like this. Then let her suck us off, and come fully in her mouth so she can taste our full load.

Ask if kini wants a more pleasurable reward as well smut.

If not, move back to adelle and the captives and start the interrogation smut.

>>35461051
I would rather not create a situation where she does something she thinks we want her to say or do, after our previous conversation.

If however, Understudy has Kini intentionally ask us for sex of her own accord and wants it, I will support that.

Hence the second option being available.

Although I do want kini smut. She is a monstergirl after all.

So guys, what do you wanna see in the Lorenne scene?

>>35461534

Torture, rape, and mindbreaking. After all, if we're releasing Kini from fuck toy status, I think we need a new one.
And I think we should give her a new name, something demeaning. Punish her every time she uses her old name. Or pronouns.

>>35461534
Forcible sex of the anal variety.

>>35461562
Forcible sex of the vaginal variety.

>>35461534
A trial and Erosette applying her "healing" on her. Even if we can't get Patina, at least we'll have another tank.

>>35461621
Gonna have to be careful on this one, she's human so best not knock up our assasin.

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>>35461641
Eh, zombifying might present legal issues when we want to try lorenne for treason.

We need to pin the blame on her for our brother's death and away from us if possible.

I don't think Lorenne is someone we could ever add to our harem.

>>35461644
>not knocking her up so that she's forced to carry her rapist's child
Full pleb.

>>35461644
So far we have solved that the "don't cum inside" route.

If worst comes to worst, we have the option of falcon punch or simply slitting her throat.

>>35461534

These things >>35461554

>>35461681
Killing her won't solve the issue of her involvement with our brother, nor her potential involvement with the death of our late brother.

It isn't likely she'll be very cooperative concerning her personal testimony anyway, but surely there is a way we can link her to previous conspiracies and conspirators.

Does adelle have anything to say on this note?

>>35461790
How would you get her to confess to killing our brother (if she did) and working with Levvy anyway?

>>35461847
We don't have to get her to confess, she likely won't. What we do need is to secure evidence from her or our brother. The question is how.

We DO have herself and her personal effects now. Perhaps we could go to the seer and use that to find what we are looking for.

>>35461681
First we're showing off Lorenne to Erosette, with good rope work.

Tell Adelle Orestiad is probably staying behind, so there's a chance we don't want to lose.

>>35461847
>>35461886
There's >>35459066
It doens't need Lorenne at all

Go full on >>35461554

We need a new fuck slave.

She won't willingly give us any information unless we damage her anyways, so might as well go all the way.

We could chain her up, keep her in the basement of our house or something.

Anyways.

>Tell adelle that she can continue, but she can return to her original topic
>Send Kini away to get an update on the battle as an excuse so she doesn't have to experience this again, even if it is on someone else

We have kini to pretend to be lorenne.

Adelle always wanted to see what we did to Kini, let's show her. This time she can help too.

We had better get some smut before the end of this thread, I swear to God you faggots have to have your fucking cocks grabbed and shoved into a girl's cunt in order to actually have sex with something.

>>35461922
That plot though hilarious is risky, especially when rolls come into play. I would like to pursue the seer in the least first, then failing that we try that avenue.

>>35461945
She won't give us any information even if we "damage" her. From her scars and what she has seen, she might even be more resilient than the damn guard of the Bayamard town.

Keeping a woman who will always try to kill us, especially a non-monstergirl human one, under our bed is not a safe thing to do. Eventually we'll have to turn her to the Nell favored form a justice for attempted murder.

>>35461980
Your definition of sex is as limited as the post going full edge

>>35462046
then we kill her later.

Until then she can be our torture experiment. I'm sure she will break eventually.

>>35461681
Also yes, bring on the Fun with Lorenne. This is gonna be a smut scene like no other.

>>35462061
Every other thread in this entire stupid quest's history has had at least one smut scene. This had better not be the first one to be completely clean of any fucking.

>>35462046
>Keeping a woman who will always try to kill us, especially a non-monstergirl human one, under our bed is not a safe thing to do.
I'm pretty sure Adelle is *literally* saying we should do *exactly* that.

>>35462107
No she fucking isn't. But you better believe we'll have multiple rounds of fun with her.

>>35462107
>This had better not be the first one to be completely clean of any fucking.
It damn better not be, I'll be sure of that.

>>35462154
"Even the most depraved of things," "no one would much care about her treatment," "there's no real limitations," etc.

Rape Lorenne with Adelle y/n?

>>35462107
You're drunk, get out
Do I want smut? Yeah. But Lorenne so far is an open, obnoxious plot. Same thing with Erosette's battle.
Orestiad, Adelle, Erosette? All available and with more potential than bash, fug, piss.

>>35462204
None of that implies or points to "keeping her in our basement forever" or that she's advising we do that.

Just that we have very little limitations on what we can do to her.

>>35462238
Yes. As brutally, nastily, and depraved as we can.

>>35462238
y

>>35462260
It's glaringly fucking obvious that is exactly what adelle wants us to do.

>>35462238
Rape Adelle while she takes retribution on Lorenne for trying to kill us twice. We brought Lorenne for her.

>>35462270
No blood bruises or broken bones though, major turn off personally. The rest is free game.

>>35462238
Y

>>35462287
You can't rape the willing.

But giving Adelle some attention too would be nice.

You guys do realize this is our brothers paramour and while he is a shit brother, he still deserves some happiness.

>>35462286
No it's not. Just because you try to keep saying something is there when it isn't doesn't mean anyone will believe you, because you're a fucking retard.

It's kind of amusing how Understudy keeps including girls that are pretty clearly designed solely to be constantly raped and abused, then all his faggot players want to be nice to them.

Kini, our mindbroken fuck toy? "We have to fix her."

Patina, our paralyzed abuse victim? "We have to make her like us."

Lorenne, our captive who we have every reason to hate and who our wife wants us to brutally rape the shit out of? "No, no! We have to investigate her or something first!"

>>35462390
Adelle wants us to abuse her.

Whether we kill her later or keep her is up to us, she doesnt care, but she explicitly mentioned it would be perfectly fine.

>>35462372
>he still deserves some happiness.
Murder. Attempted murder. To hell with them both.

>>35462372
For all we know, he was in on the plot to kill us too.

>>35462372
Yeah, let's return his attempted assassination with hugs and good wishes.

>>35462372
What he "deserves" is to get transformed into a girl, then stuck in the rape cave with Lorenne where he can live out the rest of his days being our rape toy.

>>35462421
But there is absolutely nothing in there that indicates she's saying we should keep her locked up in our basement forever.

>>35462405
>breaking the flat utility shapeshifter
Shit choice anyway
>Patina
Not my style to let other things get in the way of the D
>Lorenne
Just kill her, or give her to Erosette. That problem is better undead or buried.

>>35462405
White knights are a fucking plague. Fortunately Kini is pretty much a non-issue from now on 'fixing'-wise and with Patina we seem to have come done on the side of inducing addiction while abusing her.

>>35462472
"So long as it is kept rather quiet." If it's a one and done thing, it's kept rather quiet already, no "so long as."

>>35462405
>Kini
Already had our fun with her
>Patina
Eh, I'm fine either way but some people want an invincible tank bodyguard made of rock. Do like pissing on our angry statue though.
>Lorenne
No, I'm totally down for raping the murderer of our brother and for trying to kill us. Twice.

>>35462472
She said that we would be able to keep her around if we wanted as long as it was kept quet.

How the fuck is that not saying she is fine with us keeping her around?

>>35462503
Right. We could kill her, we could lock her up, we can do whatever the fuck we want.

But she isn't pointing to anything specific, especially not "literally wants us to keep her locked in the basement for the rest of ever."

>>35462543
She IS fine with it.

But she is NOT advising we do it, for or against. Try to wrap your very tiny brain around this concept.

>>35462595
Right, but if it were as terrible an idea as some people are suggesting, she would be advising against it.

>>35462595
no, that is because she doesn't command us around.

She has preferences, and her fetish is for us to dominate others.
Even without her explicitly saying it, most people would have picked up on her personality by now.

>>35462657
The idea hasn't even be spoken about in character.

If undead can gangbang, I kinda want to try an undead gangbang.

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Actual suggestions time, pls.

>>35462681
No, obviously what she meant by us keeping her around was to let her walk around in our house freely!

>>35462661
Domination =/= Lock a dangerous assasin under our beds who will constantly attempt to murder us in our sleep

If we bring up the idea to her and she says "yeah, that'd be great!" then I'd be all for it, but until then she can't read our fucking minds.

>>35462690
I like this idea.

Once we are exhausted and done with her, we let the undead army gangbang her.

Not to death though, that would be too kind.

>>35462729
>"Even the most depraved of things," "no one would much care about her treatment," "there's no real limitations,"
None of this equates to "keep her around"

>>35462754
But she can, because she's US's self-insert character and he can read our conversations.

>>35462754
>but until then she can't read our fucking minds

If there is ONE thing you should have picked up so far it is that she mirrors every fucking thought Duke has.

>>35462775
No, which is why nobody quoted that part and instead quoted the part relevant to keeping her round, what the fuck is your problem?

>>35462803
>quoted the part relevant to keeping her round
You mean the part that doesn't exist right? Because some idiot is trying to say "adelle says we should keep her at home!" when she said nothing of the sort.

>>35462718
Beat her. Not even in a demand for sex yet, just beat her. And we should give her a new name, I'm thinking "Ride". Call her that, get Adelle to call her that, and punish Lorenne if she calls herself, or refers to herself by anything else, even "I' or "Me".

Please stop arguing over whether or not Adelle would like it if you got a(nother) rape slave. The answer is always yes.

>>35462718
First thing, we stay away from her mouth and leave her gagged ideally. Kick her in the gut to wind her, hard but not too hard, then shove her face into the ground. Put a boot on the back of her head, push her face into the mud, prop her ass up on her knees than spank her raw with the flat of out sword.

Adelle can plow us to get us lubed enough to not hurt ourselves, then when Lorenne is nicely red and painful, we kneel on her calves and ram it into her ass. Adelle can sit on her back and we can make out and finger her while we do so.

That's some starting ideas, are other people okay with more watersports/ harder bondage?

>>35462921
and thats why Adelle is the best girl

>>35462921
Very well. That is all I needed to hear.

The problem that has been in the past has been people putting words into the characters mouth that weren't spoken, like trying to dominate the captain of the guard because "surely that's what Adelle would like" when she didn't.

>>35462718
Rope bondage into immobility. Scrape the ropes against her until she gets red.

Set her up with her legs open. Let Adelle play with her breasts and pinch her body while Baron teases her holes.

Switch positions. Adelle tribs or fingerfucks Lorenne, Baron goes for titfuck. End with facial for Adelle to see.

>>35462899
This is a good start.

>>35462967
Her limbs are tied up, just dont flop our dick near her mouth.
We can put the gag back if she doesn't spill anything.


Now, the best part is if we completely tie her down and leave her immobile, blindfold her, gag her.
Best would be if we could lock her head in place too.

Don't ask her any questions, she expects us to interrogate her, we don't want to give her a reason to "resist". Hell, pretend she isn't even a human. Ignore her and talk to her indirectly through adelle.

>>35463083
>Don't ask her any questions, she expects us to interrogate her, we don't want to give her a reason to "resist". Hell, pretend she isn't even a human. Ignore her and talk to her indirectly through adelle.
I would like this part to be the anal scene if possible.

>>35462899
I don't like Ride. While I like the idea of replacing her name with something really degrading, "Ride" just makes me think of cars.

>>35463083
>Her limbs are tied up, just dont flop our dick near her mouth.
We can put the gag back if she doesn't spill anything.

Meant to remove that as I started writing something else.

She expects we want to find out what happened to our brother and why she is after us, if we show absolutely no sign of caring about this, she will become confused and helpless.

>>35463139

We could ask Adelle for something appropriate. I'm sure she has a good idea or two, and it would be amusing to discuss it in front of our victim.

>>35463318
Indeed, we could bring up the fact that she was sad she missed Kini's breaking and that for this one, she can participate herself.

While we fuck her in the ass, can we find some vaguely phallic object to shove into her cunt?

After we're done with anal we switch to her cunt, we take it out and shove it in her ass.

After we're done with her cunt, we'll have one more round of anal and use it as her new gag, shoving her own shit into her mouth.

>>35463410
Do not stick your dick in the mouth of your angry rape victim unless you want it bitten off.

>>35463436
Hence us not sticking our dick in, but the shit smeared vaguely phallic object.

>>35463436
That's why I meant we use an object, rather than our dick, to shove down her facehole.

Preferably something that has spent a reasonable amount of time in her other orifices.

>>35463461
Adelle could even have some fun pistoning it in her butt while we fuck her pussy.

So, how about that undead gangbang?

Leave her tied and chained to a pole or something, then let a dozen zombies have their way with her.

>>35462967
>Put a boot on the back of her head, push her face into the mud
If we can, I'd like to see if we can't aim it near an ant hill. Add to the humiliation of not being able to move.

>>35463537
Once we are done with her ourselves of course.

>>35463545
Vetoed. I hate ants.

>>35463537
That would necessitate Erosette arriving and her army.

>>35463560
doh, alright.

>>35463568
This is going to last some time.

>>35463495
More fun for the whole family.

>>35463560
>>Vetoed. I hate ants.
Oh thank god, I thought I might have to argue that.

Fisting? Watersports? A more humiliating position to tie her in?

Stuff to save for later?

>>35463318
Adelle suggests Bitch, since that's what Lorenne called Adelle (it also adds a layer of nonsexual degradation). Does Baron accept or reject it?

>>35463725
Don't like fisting, but don't mind it either.

Watersports, yes, this deserves another round of golden shower to the face.

Humiliating positions? Why not list some anon.

>>35463742
This works.

>>35463742
Sounds good to me.

>>35463742

Baron likes a lot.

>>35463742
A bit standard, but if adelle wants it then we are all for it. Her reasoning is sound as well.

>>35463753
>Why not list some
Not him but if we have some rope we can tie her hands and wrap it around a tree branch, lifting her body by her arms. We can use other ropes to spread her legs in a V, exposing her whole body ripe for us to molest.

We can fuck her from the front while Adelle fucks her ass with that phallic object, or fuck her ass while Adelle molests her body from the front.

>>35463742
Accept

>>35463753
I agree that the humiliating aspects of pissing on her are good, but I want to keep her around for a bit more fun than just once. And remember that we're keeping her in our litter; that's the same as pissing on our own bed.
So, unless we're going to clean her afterwards to deal with the smell, I have to say I'm against water sports.

>>35463922
Should be a river nearby to toss a bucket of water on her.

>>35463922
I was going to suggest we just chain her by the latrines but I realized there are none in this army.

No waste at all actually.

>>35463885
Got the term, it's a strappado, but instead of bending over she's lifted to stand up straight, possibly on her toes.
This gives us a better position to slap her tits or ass or any part of her body.

>>35463991
Best if its positioned at the height where her toes barely touch the ground so she has to exert herself to not put all the pressure on her arms.

>>35464089
Precisely. Also standing up makes it much easier for us to use our sword to paddle her.

Maybe we do that first, paddling her ass while Adelle fucks her cunt with a not-Dildo and pinching her clit till she comes. Then when she's exhausted and less able to resist, Adelle shoves it in deep, we cut the ropes and then pin her down once she falls for sudden and abrupt anal sex.

>>35453839

Hey, Understudy, should you make a new thread? This one's almost gone, I think.