>>35261630

You'll need- You'll need to get Jin. You promised. A yawn breaks your face. And Sheszka will probably follow you no matter what. And Sara... Hm. Maybe. Magic is one thing, but she gets scared, still.

You lay your head in a bundle of blankets, eyes closing, one set at a time. There'll be a lot to take care of tomorrow. It'd be best to start with:

>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.
>Get some practice in with Mom. A few tips on fighting in enclosed spaces, maybe?
>Check in with Erics about making something hold magic for you. It'd be useful to have.
>Other (?)


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>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.
Sounds fun, which is most important.

>>35261651
>>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

>>35261651
>Check in with Erics about making something hold magic for you. It'd be useful to have.

Probably a good idea to do this before heading out.

>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.
We'll practice with mom when we get back, and since it's a day's trip out and back, Jin can spend the night and we can recover from mom's training.

>>35261651
>>Get some practice in with Mom. A few tips on fighting in enclosed spaces, maybe?

We want to get Jin and a few supplies from town then straight into ADVENTURE

>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.
hell bring the whole family along, the general store owner would probably like to see who she has to give store credit to anyways. That and we can talk to them to see if they'd like to come with us to the dungeon. It could be a real family bonding moment down there.

>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

>>35261651
>Check in with Erics about making something hold magic for you. It'd be useful to have.
Do this first. He can make the battery for us while we go and pick up Jin, then get CQC lessons from Mom.

>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

>>35261651
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.
Its better we train with Aria once she has her new armor. Then doing it before and having to put in anothe rtrainings session for that.

>>35261651
>>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

>>35261651
>Check in with Erics about making something hold magic for you. It'd be useful to have.
I still think that rather than (or maybe in addition to?) a device, we should practice just carrying some refined (by someone else) magic around for extended time periods. Sure, if we lose consciousness or focus it disperses. but the mental exercise is good for us and we could get some decent stuff out of it if we ration our power.

Also, earth power should help us detect traps.

>>35261651
>>Other (?)
talk to sisters, find out who wants to come.
Fetching jin should be the last prep we do since it requires first going to town

Speaking of. if our other fighter sister comes, she needs to get her own set of armor from town first.

A rousing game of birdfetch?
Writing!

>>35261651
>>Check in with Erics about making something hold magic for you. It'd be useful to have.
Then
>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

Once we get into town, we should get Shez some leather armour. We want to keep our Wolfgirl safe.

>>35262306
my only worry about that is how much it'll affect her mobility. Leather thick enough to be used as armor is rather stiff...

>>35262440
I think metal plated fore-arm and shin guards would be better.
Mithril chain shirt when we can finally afford one, too.

>dad tries to adventure properly
>mom is a giant spider
>entirely bypasses all traps
Haha spiders.
Are we taking our siblings into town, or are we saving that one for later?

>>35262535
technically, mom was more in line with the spirit of being a PC.

Mom and Dad will have a lot of alone time together if we take everyone to the village.
More siblings soon fellow giant spider!

>>35262535
Dad can only think in NPC logic, while mom is a proper PC.

>>35262440
>>35262498
We'll discuss the details with the old guy in the smithy. Maximum protection without sacrificing mobility.

Leather, chain-mail,whatever.

Can we ask what a dungeon IS at some point?

Apparently they're some kind of natural phenominon that randomly spawns?
What the fuck?

>>35262750
that is a good point. i assumed it was just a ruin. but from what mom is saying it is different.

>Fetching Jin. Maybe make a visit to the town out of it- Your sisters would probably like to go.

Field trip!
I would also ask the boys because they might actually get some nifty tools from the trader if they were interested.

>>35262916
Since they get left out of all trips we take, they seem to not care much for that kind of thing. Maybe they prefer to just go hunting ?

>>35262808
>but from what mom is saying it is different.
She did explicitly say that "dungeons are not ruins".

>>35262967
we should at least still invite them, even if they say no

>>35263013
right, explicitly saying its different.
that doesn't answer the question of what they are

>>35262967
I worry about them a lot.
They're not very socially developed, they can barely read and write.
I don't want to feel embarrassed about our brothers, but they kind of are socially stunted.

>>35263022
No you misunderstood, I pointed out how they never seem to be invited to any of these trips. Which is odd, really. So I assume there is a IC reason for that that just isn't spelled out because neither Lyra not Mom ever seem to make a effort in that direction.

>>35263064
They did hit their heads a lot during childhood ...

>>35263084
I think we haven't invited ANY of our siblings yet.

>>35263108
>I think we haven't invited ANY of our siblings yet.
We invited Elle.
Inviting Aria is a given since she needs armor.
And we're already thinking of bringing Sara.

>>35263141
hell just invite everyone, if they come they come, if not at least we can say we asked.

Neither of your parents is back by the time you and your siblings start to stir.

Breakfast is the same easy meal of leftovers, everyone scarfing down food to start the day. As your siblings get ready for the day, you take matters into your own hands.

"Elle? Aria?"
Both look at you, then each other, then you again. Aria pipes up first.
"Yes?"
"I- Well, I promised Jin I would take her with me, yes? Whenever I go on an adventure. So I will be heading to Oakring- Do either of you want to come? To get your own set of armour, or to visit the trading post?"

Aria scratches idly at her face as she considers.
"I am not sure I want Mom to be training me any harder..."
Elle laughs, then turns to you.
"Give me a little bit, yes? I would like to bring a few things."

You nod, and Elle speeds off, burrowing into her piles of silk projects. Aria watches her with some interest, and turns back.
"...I'll go. Avoiding it won't make it any easier."
"No. No it won't."
You share a moment of sympathy with your sister in training before she claps you on the shoulder, heading off to get her own gear ready.

The boys have already gone, hurtling out of the tree to start the morning hunt. Sara has taken full advantage of your father's return, surrounding herself with his books.

Literally, she has a half-circle of books open around her, poring through each in turn to find what she needs. She looks back over her shoulder as you approach, raising a one-handed greeting with a smile.
"We're going to head into town, yes? Would you like to come with us?"
She turns back to the books, tilting her head to the side.
"Hmmmn. Not today, I think. I am very close, yes. Just a little more, and I think I will be casting this."
She gestures to a spiralling rune pattern in one of the books.
"Maybe next time, okay?"

>>35263141
we've not actually invited and taken anyone to town yet.

>>35263064
I think they are actually closer to what the "common" Arachne is like, the three sisters might be the unusual ones.

>>35263108
Mom did send specifically us with Aria and Elle to protect Sara on the trip to the Waterfall.
We thought of inviting Elle for the next time already when we came into town the first time.
I mainly wondered why it never seems to occur to Lyra to invite her brothers to these things, or mom for that matter.

>>35263179
You nod, patting her head as you go.
"We will see you tonight, then. Or tomorrow. When we get back."
She grabs your hand as you turn, tugging you back to face her again.
"Take care, yes?"
"I will."

You meet your sisters at the base of the tree, wolf in tow. Aria has been piled high with Elle's work, looking slightly embarassed by the mountain of silk she's carrying. You take a bit of her burden, securing it with Elle's help as your parents walk up to the tree, both looking very- dishevelled.

"Going somewhere, dearhearts?"
"To the village, yes? I need to grab Jin, and they have not been yet."
Elle nods excitedly while your mother smiles.
"Be careful, yes?"
"Okaaaay." "Yes." "We will."

You depart your home at a brisk pace, keeping your stride even so that Elle can keep up.

>Roll 1d100!

>>35263179
Aw, poor boys.
They are such industrious workers they are missing out.

Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>35263215
Older sister safety trip fun time!

Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>35263215
They sure have a lot of catching up to do.

Traveling sisters!

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>35263215
Rolling.

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>35263215

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>35263215

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>35263215
ok lets see what we get

Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>35263215

Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>35263215
IN THE NAME OF THOR I ROLL THEE DICE!

>>35263248
I very nearly blew it, good thing I won't be rolling any more tonight.

Will our brothers turn in to huntsman spiders?

Well, okay then.

so is a 2 good in an event roll or...?

>>35263289
Twin Gaston spiders. Between them they can eat 8 dozen eggs.

So, I was thinking it was about time to put our meta-gaming capacity to use outfitting our dungeon raiding party. Owl harpys use their feet talons for dexterous work, so I figure we could try to arm Jin with some throwing weapons, like a shortened javelin. We could also make her 'dart' type weapons Roman Legionaries used (basically an arrow weighted with lead).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumbata
Even if Jin can't quite hurl them with her legs she can still dive bomb her targets or just drop them from really high up. We could also coat them with our venom to give them a little extra punch.

As for Sheszka, perhaps we could have a set of laminated leather armor. Hard enough to deflect glancing blows and arrows, but light enough not to slow her down any. Maybe layers of hardened and supple leather, using this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiled_leather on the exterior.

>>35263329
Bad. Very bad.
As in, the Oh shit nigga where did your arm go bad.

At least that is how I have interpreted it so far anyway.

>>35263517
so good experience points then?

Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>35263536
YES!

>>35263536
Yes, so long as we survive and don't actually lose limbs.

>>35263545
Welp, the dice gods seem to be getting ready.

>>35263536
Yes.

Thats only if we are are fighting something.

And then this nigga rolls up >>35263545

>>35263545
hahahahaha

>>35263536
Well, considering my dnd group chances are the dungeon itself will attack us
>>35263545
Holy shit

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>>35263545

Rolled 87 (1d100)

I just hope that none of Elle's cargo gets damage in the coming battle.

>>35263545
The Dice Gods saith. Let there be XP.

>>35263545
Pfffff- hahahahaha
Okay, I'm just gonna tack this on
No need to waste fun rolls

>>35263477
oh man, Jin dive bombing things like a JU87 with the screamer horn when?!?

>>35263725
YES!

>>35263725
Oh, this just keeps getting better and better.

>>35263731
As soon as we get our hands on a javelin or two, or some weighted arrows.

>>35263725
Comedy of errors?

>>35263477
Godlike vision and super dexterous talons doesn't scream "javalin thrower" at me.
I would think a crossbow would be more up her alley. it multiplies strength a lot and is more of a precision weapon.

Also, that leather armor plan just doesn't sound very viable. Also, please remember her fur
I think this anon >>35262498 has the right of it.
its just hard to properly armor / arm a monster. we should look up info on what kind of equipment wolf warriors of old used to utilize, it would be a good starting point.
I am guessing a Cestus or brass knuckles for when she needs to deliver smashing damage (eventually enchanted)
And a magic knife when claws aren't enough slashing power.

with her high agility she would probably make an excellent fencer with a light sword. But we don't know anyone to teach her. while mom/lyra can probably teach her knifework (there is the species difference to consider).

>>35263946
>And a magic knife when claws aren't enough slashing power.
Also when you don't want to be touching something that needs to be manipulated.

Mom recommended to always have a knife handy; something we should remind Aria about.

>>35263946
>crossbow
She would have pretty big problems holding and firing a crossbow. A composite bow seems to more suited to he physiology.

>>35263946
>I would think a crossbow would be more up her alley.
A crossbow? For a Harpy, to use with her feet?
You didn't think that through, did you.

For arming Jin, the best thing I can think of would be short javelins of some sort. She can't carry much on herself. We could carry a quiver of them on our back for her to use.

>Lyra is level 68
>Not even a month old

Horee sheeit.

Mom is gunna be mad jelly here in a day or two.

>>35264019
what? a bow is significantly more difficult to wield than a crossbow.

although in general either would be difficult to wield because she would have to do so while flying.
probably better for her to stick to melee combat.

... or magic actually. if she got some magic power

>>35264086
I did think it through, despite its difficulty it is amazingly more practical than a javalin.
A harpy simply cannot perform the motions to toss a javalin with its legs, and even if she could, can't exert the force needed, and even if she could, it isn't as effective a weapon as a crossbow

>>35263946
I thought about crossbows, but it seems to complicated to operate and aim while flying. With javelins or other thrown projectiles Jin can use speed and gravity to hurl them with sufficient force.

As for the armor, I was thinking about her fur when I came up with that. Her coat grows on her limbs, not her torso, which houses her vital organs. Forearm and shin guards could be useful, and mithril would be great, but I don't think Michael would have any in stock. Layered leather is the lightest armor option available right now, and it's light enough for a werewolf to use.

>>35264136
Technically level 168 if you include the first evo

>>35263725

REQM confirms once again, that this is both a self-insert, and that he is a pretty good spidergirl.

>>35264136
I aiming for hitting stage 3 of the spider tree before we hit puberty

>>35264144
>a bow is significantly more difficult to wield than a crossbow
Not for the feet of a harpy, since she would have to hold it angled sideways in her feet, which works better with a bow. And a composite bow is also easier to reaload for her.
Its not "ideal" but definitly easier to use than a crossbow.

I want Jin to evolve into a thunderbird so bad

>>35264158
>I thought about crossbows, but it seems to complicated to operate and aim while flying. With javelins or other thrown projectiles Jin can use speed and gravity to hurl them with sufficient force.
oh, you were talking about field fighting not dungeon crawling.
Yea, that would work. But in a dungeon she is not going to be able to TOSS a javalin from lyra's back.
really, not having hands is a ridiculous handicap

>>35264144
She doesn't need force anon, she can let the momentum to the work for her. And if harpies are sufficiently dexterous to operate a crossbow while flying, they can certainly drop a pointy stick while flying.

>>35264218
>She doesn't need force anon, she can let the momentum to the work for her.
not inside a dungeon, see >>35264198

>people discussing what weapon jin should use during flight
OBVIOUSLY she should use tiny nets.
Nobody can resist tiny nets.

>>35264198
hopefully her next evolution does something about the no-hands thing if we plan to do much dungeon-diving.

>>35264144
>A harpy simply cannot perform the motions to toss a javalin with its legs,

I'm sure she could. Flying towards a target and releasing her weapon at high speed. Or just dropping the weapon from above.

I just can't imagine how you think a crossbow would work for a flying creature that manipulates things with her feet. It's unclear if her legs would even have the dexterity needed to use one.

When she's on the ground, her talons are occupied. She can't use the crossbow. when she's flying about, she's... Y'know, flying about. Cocking the string, placing the bold, holding the weapon steady to rest a bolt on the rung and aim.... All while airborn?

>>35264158

It has just occurred to me that Lyra could probably use a horrible crossbreed of a crossbow and a ballista comfortably.

Y'know, if we go musclegirl route.

Taking Dragonslaying to a new level, firing ballista bolts fitted with heavy chains...while moving.

>>35264198
Eh, I'm assuming if this dungeon is roomy enough for Jin to fly around in, she'll be able to fly fast enough to dive bomb monsters. If it isn't big enough for that, she likely won't be doing any fighting at all.

>>35264258
we're big enough to have a back-mounted ballista, yes.
And we also have jin riding us all the time. Might as well give her heavy weaponry.

>>35264198
>not having hands
She does have finger on her arms though, so she could probably use a crossbow from Lyras back.

>>35264265

ADVENTURE!

...Oh god I'm imagining this all as Monster-Hunter themed.

It is a good pain.

>>35264258
Oh my god, all of my yes. We are now sinper/artillery spider.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_%28weapon%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybolos

>>35264258
Getting a retardedly oversized arbalest would be perfectly practical for someone of our size and strength.

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>>35264218
>And if harpies are sufficiently dexterous to operate a crossbow while flying, they can certainly drop a pointy stick while flying.
if you just drop it and leg gravity handle it, it will have insignificant stopping power compared to a crossbow bolt.

>>35264195
>Not for the feet of a harpy, since she would have to hold it angled sideways in her feet, which works better with a bow.
a bow ALWAYS requires 2 hands, it is impossible to use a bow 1 handed.
a light crossbow can be wielded in one hand
make it a repeater crossbow too.

to reload it she sits on her ass and uses both legs to reload. to wield it she stands on one leg, while using the other to point and shoot like a pistol.

to wield a bow she has to sit down on a chair or lie on her back and then use both legs to hold and pull, and handling the arrows is gonna be a pain too.

>>35264265
Can you imagine the sort of weaponry we could equip on Seranthis' back?

>>35264244
that is actually a very practical thing for her to do. drop a net on something to entangle it up. But it again requires she has enough space to fly.

>>35264251
see >>35264198

>>35264308
>a bow ALWAYS requires 2 hands
But she has 2 feet, and firing a crossbow angled sideways makes for horrible accuracy.

>>35264323
isn't he like Shen Gaoren big?
So an artillery battery or three

>>35264251
>I just can't imagine how you think a crossbow would work for a flying creature that manipulates things with her feet. It's unclear if her legs would even have the dexterity needed to use one.
1. we were explicitly told her feet are extremely dexterous
2. I said a crossbow would be more practical than bows and javalins, not that it is the best weapon for her (best is melee)

>>35264308
Just look at your own picture, and try to imagine for a moment how someone with the claws on her feet is supposed to operate that. Both in tersm of pulling the trigger, and in loading the weapon without snapping the string with her sharp claws. The string on a crossbow is too small for Jin to be able to draw without snapping it.

>>35264291
Who is to say that we cant go that route?

I mean we have a RNG loot table for us already. All we need is a smith that is good enough to craft with whatever materials we bring him.

>>35264368
Fuck man, we wouldn't even have to fight battles with something like that. Any sentient army would piss all over themselves when they see something like that coming at them.

>>35264264
last time we went underground she couldn't fly at all, she sat on our back the whole time. and even if she had some room to fly, she would not be able to pick up speed and divebomb things. there is no way this would be possible inside a dungeon.

>>35264289
she does? ok, that solves all the problems. along with >>35264265

>>35264388
>crossbow would be more practical than bows
But it wouldn't be, it would be way easier for her to use a bow, since a bow has far more space for her to grip, making up for her problems gripping things even with her legs, you might remember how she talked about that in the inn.
She can use a crossbow while on lyras back, with her finger, but in flight a bow would be a lot better.

>>35264414
Spider Gear?!

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>>35264414

I am reminded of those assholes in Lost Planet who bolted fucking Mech Torso / Artillery platforms to the backs of Akrids.

The big cousin of this fucker is a giant mountain-sized spider.

>>35264420
Why don't we just lend her Elle's crossbow while dungeon diving then?

>>35264403
she won't be angling it sideways, she will be using one foot to point straight forward.
and you never ever touch the string of a crossbow. It is loaded with a lever
and my post explicitly said to modify it into a repeater crossbow.
And we were told she has extremely dexterous feet so don't give me that "claws for feet" thing. this isn't a bird its a harpy

>>35264469
Just remember this wonderful phrase "There is always a bigger fish"

>>35264472
Assuming she can hold it, she could use the trigger, but if her finger are long enough to hold the weapon up is a different question we would need to figure out.

Maybe get her some spear that has something to grip for her at the end ?

The big question is how much will a ballista/gattling gun/cannon/flamethrower slow us down.

>>35264356
>But she has 2 feet
and using one to stand and one to shoot is more practical than lying on her back while using both to shoot.
and there is no sideways angling. stand up, now lift one of your feet while pointing it straight ahead. there is no sideways angling involved

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>>35264486

But are they as "I'M A GIANT GOD DAMN SPIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR" as this mother fucker?

>>35264308
a couple pounds of javelin dropped in a dive will have significantly more kinetic energy than a crossbow bolt because of its far greater mass.

>>35264485
It would still be all but impossible to aim while flying. Humans aim crossbows by lining up the sights in front of their eyes, which is an impossibility for a flying harpy. She might be able to shoot ok while sitting down on her favorite spiderperch, but that would be it.

>>35264509
>and using one to stand and one to shoot is more practical than lying on her back while using both to shoot
I thought we were still at something she can use while flying.
>>35264509
>>35264485
How would she draw the trigger like that ?
More importantly, you expect her to stand on one foot while firing ?

>And we were told she has extremely dexterous feet so don't give me that "claws for feet" thing
Her feet explicitly end in claws. No matter how dexterous those might be, they are still sharp.

And don't come with that "you have never" crap, the string of a crossbow can still be cut by something sharp.

>>35264581
I think you aren't reading the parts where he mentions crossbows are loaded with a lever, not by hand.

Ok everyone, how about this, we make Jin a couple javelins/weighted arrows for use in the open, and lend her Elle's crossbow for the dungeon. We can see how well she handles both weapons, and if she takes a shine to the crossbow we can build one for her.

>>35264602
We would need to make a pretty large crossbow so that she wouldn't come into contact with the string while trying to draw the lever.

>>35264602
If she isn't dexterous enough with her feet to hold cutlery, she most certainly can't draw the lever on any crossbow small enough for her to reliably hold in one foot.

The path is easy, especially in the daylight. Through the forest, the ruins, to the road and on. Simple.

Well, simple for you, anyway.

The scene you come across would be hilarious if it wasn't so clearly fatal for the people involved.

It's a perfect tableau, straight from a movie. A half collapsed carriage lies in the ruined road. A pair of dead horses before it, blood spattered across the stones. A chubby merchant, family in tow, has climbed higher onto the cart, lashing out with kicks to keep away the wolves snapping at his heels. His wife and son sit high on the canopy covering the cart, screaming and wailing while the man lets loose with a string of ridiculous curses.

You stand watching for a moment. Why in gods name would someone try to enter a forest ruled by monsters without so much as a guard? There's idiocy, then there's whatever this moron has that passes for brains.

You look at Aria and shrug, moving forward into the pack of wolves- You pick up the largest, lifting it by it's neck and hurl it into a nearby tree, the resounding snap of bone punctuating the sudden silence.

The wolves take one look at you, then at the snarling Sheszka- and bolt, flying through the trees as fast as their legs can carry them. For his part, the merchant continues to prove himself a god amongst fools, now directing his kicks in your direction, howling all the while.

"Thrice-cursed! Hellbeast! Let none but the Gods judge me, I will lay you low, and the wrath of a thousand thousand will fall upon your head, like rain upon countryside, and you will be washed away by the fury! You will-"

>>35264581
>I thought we were still at something she can use while flying.
the crossbow explicitly refers to something she can fire in a dungeon where she can't fly
either from lyra's back, or standing in the back while the frontline fighters do their thing.

>More importantly, you expect her to stand on one foot while firing ?
How do you expect her to stand on ZERO feet while firing?

>>35264602
>crossbows are loaded with a lever

Correction. Some types of crossbow can be cocked with a lever attachment.

Even if we could get on of those. If would add a separate tool to the job and increase the awkwardness of the whole job.

How the hell is Jin to brace the crossbow in one talon while fitting and drawing a lever with the other?

Lie down for 5 minutes in the middle of a battle to free up both feet?

>>35264668

Elle stands off to the side, keeping Aria between herself and the screaming fat man.
"Lyra, what is wrong with him?"
Aria shrugs. You gesture, while the man's face grows ever redder.
"He is an idiot, yes."

She observes him a moment longer.
"Yes, but what is he doing?"
"Trying his utmost to die in the forest, I think."
Aria chokes a bit, biting back laughter as the rotund organic megaphone finally quiets.

"So, beasts! You speak the true tongue!"
"This is plainspeak, not spider-tongue. It is not even the forest language."
Elle has joined her sister in laughter, trying her hardest to restrain herself while you mock the man. His family still sits astride the cart, watching quietly.
"The tongue of man! The one true ruler of all!"
"I think our Queen was a spider, actually."
"All would bow before us!"
"No, I think getting that low would be a bit hard, really."

Aria is wheezing for breath as the man watches you.
"Are you mocking me?"
"Yes. What are you doing in the woods? This is our land, yes? And without guards. There is nothing but monsters for leagues."
"There are riches in these woods, beyond your wildest imagination. Silks and powders the likes of which you have never seen!"

You simply stare at him, transfixed.
It shouldn't be possible to be this dumb. This can't be real.
"You.... Do you understand that everything you are talking about is made by monsters?"
"What?"
"The arachne make the silk. The moths make the powders. And anything else would belong to us, anyway. What, in all the gods names, are you doing in the woods?"

>>35264670
I already made it clear the bow was a idea for something to use while flying. I agree with using a crossbow while on the spider perch, assuming she can actually hold a crossbow like that.

>>35264537
you are underestimating the force with which a bolt is launched. and even if true kinetic energy =! stopping power.
lacking penetration it causes significantly less damage, especially to anything armored. like every monster worth hunting

>>35264685
Let's make him some silk to demonstrate.

>>35264685
this man, he must be a saint for there is no other answer for someone to be put on this world to give others such amusement

>>35264709
He is clearly one of those remnants of the human-supremacy church. I don't think we have reason to do anything but send him out of the forest as fast as possible.

>>35264685
Still hanging from the side of his cart, he blinks rapidly, trying to sort out his thoughts.
"I- uh, I-"
He gets a second wind as you watch, chest inflating with misplaced pride.
"I hail from the greatest of cities, monster. I am a merchant of impeccable renown. Why should I grovel for goods in some godsforsaken hick town at the edge of nowhere?"

You gesture to his shattered cart, his massacred horses.
"Because the alternative is to die in the woods, yes?"
He sneers, lips curling as he prepares a retort.
Luckily enough, his wife interrupts him.

"I beg pardon, weaver. His intentions are good, if his plan is not."
You give her a flat look as her son clings to her. Her husband starts to ramp up into something, and she shrugs, speaking over him.
"Would you be so forgiving as to assist us back to town? I am afraid we would not survive the trip."
You sigh, rubbing at your temples.

>"Fine."
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
>Other (?)

So...
Are we giving this guy a ride back to town?

>>35264685
Fat ignorant noble?

nothing but trouble.

>>35264755
>>You could probably drag the carriage back...

No reason not to.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
We are not going to play mule for this idiot. His family doesn't deserve to die for his stupidity, but that has its limits.

>>3526475
>"Fine."
>You could probably drag the carriage back...

I like this guy. He's fat and dumb, but he's trying to make it big trading with unknown peoples.

We should pull the wagon and ask all their names. Then introduce ourselves and our friend/sisters.

That one is Elle. She weaves well.

>>35264685
>inb4 "I am a giant spider."

>>35264755
>"fine, just ask the town guards for help regarding the recovery of your belongins"

>>35264755
>>You could probably drag the carriage back...
>>35264756
His wife's okay.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
Yeah, probably don't want him to die. At least his family doesn't deserve it.

>>35264755
>>"Fine."
>>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.

So what's the diffrence between these two?

>>35264791
er, this goes to
>>35264755


>>35264785
Oh come on, it's just a wagon. Easy peasy.

>>35264755
>>"Fine."
>>You could probably drag the carriage back...

We shall be the bigger person both physically and mentally.

>>35264755
>>"Fine."
>>You could probably drag the carriage back...

>>35264755
>>You could probably drag the carriage back...

>>35264755
>You could probably drag the carriage back...

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.

I see no reason NOT to try to drag that carriage.
Think we can get the wheels back on with some silk?

Besides, his family could really use those goods.

>>35264755
>"Fine."
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
>Other
"Look, I don't want to be insulting, and maybe I'm overstepping my bounds here, but you need to think about your life, and the life of your son there. It's obvious that your husband, as well-intentioned as he might be, will get you both killed."

>>35264791
He's a racist asshole

>>35264755
>"Fine."
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
"One comment about me being a beast of burden and you can walk, yes."

>Other (?)
Wrap on of the horses? Good for a snack on the road and we'll probably work up an apatite.

>>35264836
Because he is a racist asshole and deserves some pain for his idiocy ?

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
Might be able to carry some of there crap as well just for the show her husband gave us buuuuut at the same time I really wound't care either way.

>>35264755
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
All the while enumerating all of the dangers of the forest

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
yeah nah, fuck him and his supremacy bullshit.
dragging it just gives him ideas.

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>>35264844
>>35264856

Eh, you can forgive some racism.
After all, we're giant scary spiders. Who might have a skullbutt soon.

He changed his tune immediately when he found out we had good shit and he'd be trading with us.

He seems to be the harmless, gregarious type of fat noble racist. Which I think is the best kind.

>>35264881
>gregarious
He insulted a Giant Spider to her face. He is not gregarious.

I don't think we can drag his carriage but helping carry some of the goods isn't out of the question is it?

>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
>Other (?)
"We are not mules, the rest of your luggage will have to wait."

>off to sleep now.
>Good luck fellow spiders!

>>35264902
yeah, we're not carrying anything.
Carry some of his shit or carry some of his family. Whatever. Carry something.

>>35264856
>>35264874
I'd say cut them some slack for the sake of the wife and kid.

But the fucker best learn to think before he speaks. I will not vote for infinite patience.

>>35264881
>He changed his tune immediately
No he didn't ? He kept on the rant for the entire time, even when he learned we had the goods he wouldnÄ't shut up. That does not show the makings of a good trader. Or even halfway decent one.

>>35264755
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
>Other (?)
Can we bind him? His foolish banter is amusing, but we don't want him accidentally impaling himself on something...

We could always ask him to pay us to carry the whole carriage
saying that the alternative is that the carriage remains here while we escort him to town and he later hires people to come pick it up
saving their life is free, escorting them to town with whatever they can carry is free. being a packmule is extra

I am fine with pulling the whole thing for free, just throwing it out there for the people who feel like we shouldn't

>>35264755
Since I'm not getting a response
>You could probably drag the carriage back...

Also pointing out that
>>35264808
Isn't supposed to be a vote.

>>35264929
The cutting him some slack is escorting him out. Not playing beast of burden for him.

>>35264874
But it puts his wife and son in a worse position if she wants to divorce the idiot. And I think we should do that straight to his face, and demonstrating to his son why his father is not a man worth respecting.

Our argument would be better if we brought the cart for the wife's sake, and made the man walk.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
Keep the carriage for ourselves.

>Giving the fat stupid fucking merchant even the tiniest bit of an idea that he is correct by pulling his shitty wagon

No.

Unless we gag him and glue him to the bottom of said carriage.

>>35264930
His rant changed immediately from us being abominations to how he shouldn't have to be at some half-rate village just to get our goods.

I don't hate the guy. He seems like a completely acceptable type of asshole.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
Why exactly would we drag it out for him after insulting us and everyone of our kind ?

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>>35261630

Has this been posted yet?

Well, anyway, here OP, have a fanart of somethign you already did.

We could actually CONFRONT him about his behavior
>Look just because we aren't human doesn't we aren't people or aren't civilized.
>And since when is insulting the people who saved your life and that of your family from a pack of hungry animals a sign of civility? at the very least you should be mannered enough to thank us

>>35264755
If we do offer to drag his carriage, if he makes a remark about "Us knowing our place as servants" or some shit, make him walk.

>>35264755
>You could probably drag the carriage back...
he is idiot and a rich merchant,
let's do this for PROFIT

>>35264972
to prove him wrong
Because we're nice people who don't mind a workout.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
His wife and kids can get a ride on us.

>>35264934
I'd be find with that. He's a trader, what will he trade for roadside rescue.

"I'm sorry, yes, but you SpiderAAA membership has expired. Your vehicle is not covered, yes."

>>35264972
We don't drag it for him, we bring it along for his wife and son, who will be allowed to ride on the cart.

The man walks, no exception.

>>35264976

Let's see her
>Fat
>Merchant
>Fat
>Greedy
>Racist because Church
>Prime Example of Humanity Fuck No
>Angry at the drop of a hat
>Stupid because going into a forest without any means to protect himself or his family

Yeah, sure, confrontation works on reasonable individuals.

This is not a reasonable individual.

>>35264980
But we literally have profit coming out of our ass. we're already set for life pretty much.

He might know where to get fancy stuff for things like magic.

>>35264992
Except he expects us to do shit for him. He isn't afraid of us, he thinks are SUPPOSED to do shit for him because he is so much better. Carrying it would be proving him right in his eyes.

>>35264980
>he is idiot and a rich merchant,
We have no idea if he is rich.

>>35265019
What if we ignore him and only speak to the wife. When he tries to talk, ask the wife why she's letting someone who nearly got her and her son killed, make decisions for her.

>>35264934
That would be okay, but the option doesn't mention any of that, so the implication would be we do it for free, which he doesn't deserve one bit.

We are being nice escorting his FAMILY to a safe place.

We will NOT give him ANY REASON AT ALL to believe he is right by carrying his shit for him.

If he wants his shit so bad, he can carry it all.

>>35264755
>Just let them take what they can carry, escort them back.
yeah nah, church of assholes can carry his shit for him
Maybe pack something extra for his wife.

>>35265014
>Fat people are unseasonable
>Merchants are unreasonable
what?

also, you are also extrapolating and assuming some stuff.
and we don't know if he is merely misinformed and capable of reforming, or if his supremacist views are deeply entrenched

>>35264934
Its not like we need any payment. We are literally richer than the town.

I honestly see no reason not to help carry his stuff.

>>35265038
Just a reminder, the trade this idiot is attempting to get in on means more wealth for the town.

>>35265081
Yeah. Helping this guy out would be good for everyone.
AND he'd stop being such a cunt about how great humans are. (well, slightly less. people like this don't just stop)
It's a win/win!

Holy crap, counting

>>35265067
>we don't know if he is merely misinformed
I wouldn't give him shit for being scared of us, but this is not something born of misinformation

>>35265081
You didn't properly read what he said , he wants to circumvent the town, meaning, he wants the town to not partake in this trade wealth. He would make the town poorer if he succeeded.

>>35265096
We're currently demonstrating to him he'll have to work through the town in the future.

>>35265081

And? We don't need the town to survive, and the town is doing fine anyway, hell, the Harpies don't even need the town to survive, it's just CONVENIENT for them.

Bigger Town means Larger amounts of FUCKING IDIOTS IN OUR FOREST.

Larger amounts of FUCKING IDIOTS IN OUR FOREST means they need more shit to live, which means LESS FOREST, and LESS FOREST means LESS ROOM for MONSTER RACES.

BIGGER TOWN IS NOT A GOOD THING.

>>35265078
Because we have no reason to do favors for assholes that insult us after saving their lives ?

>>35265112
good samaratinism is always enough of a reason.

As long as he's not actively hurting someone, I'm up to help.

Can we be nice to the wife and kid, offer to bring their stuff, but make the dude carry what he wants. remark that we will not be slowing down for him, so only take what he can comfortably carry...

Being a Dick gets you base level help. Being Civil gets you bonus helps...

>>35265096
>I wouldn't give him shit for being scared of us, but this is not something born of misinformation
he didn't even know we could talk, so he was extremely misinformed

>>35265106
bigger town is a good thing, and it's weird how you only brought up this argument and flipped sides AFTER a fat merchant was introduced.

Especially since there is a HUGE span of forest between us and the nearest human settlement, and we're on the very furthest outreaches of arachne territory.

>>35265106
While I don't agree witht the caps, he is right. We don't want more idiots like him come into our forest. Just notn worth it. And the town is perfectly fine in size, the just want more wealth, which they can get from trading with us, we don't need more people to come there, nor do they. Because it means less forest for us, starting the exact same shit again why the humans were driven out in the first place.

>>35265130
Yeah, thats why we escort him out.

>Itt: people argue that humoring entitled bigots make them less entitled bigots.


I voted for towing the carriage but shit, you white people are ignorant as fuck.

>>35265112
Some of us want to be good samaritans and show the wife and son that the husband is a racist asshole and doesn't know what he's talking about.

I want to bring the cart to the village so that all of the humans there can point and laugh at this lardball, and call him an idiot for not knowing that Arachne silk comes from Arachne.
The ridicule from other humans is going to hurt a lot more than any mockery we can throw at him.

>>35265162
>>35265106
he's not actually very right. Monster territory is beyond the ruins, which themselves are quite far from existing human territory.

>>35265161
>Especially since there is a HUGE span of forest between us
For now. You have to think into the future, the trees don't regrow as fast as these guys cut them, and that will become worse the more humans come.
>>35265178
Being good people is why we escort them out, that already makes us plenty good. Playing pack mule for him doesn't show we are good people, it shows he can walk all over us with his bullshit.

>>35265197
>think into the future
You mean the one where the humans and monsters have made a glorious combined city on the edge of the forest?

>>35265178
Thats a idiotic reason, people already knew that. He already came through the town on his way. And they will still mock him if he comes back without cart.

>>35265216
Because thats totally how its going to work out if we let racist human supremacists in. Sure thing.

>>35265161

I have ALWAYS been against making the town extremely wealthy, because we LIVE near it, trading every now and again for shit we need, so they can get shit THEY need with the wealth we practically give them from nothing? That's fine every now and again, but ACTIVELY making them super-wealthy on a constant basis? That is a bad idea for the future of the people of this forest.

>>35265197
You're letting him walk over you with his bullshit by changing what you are doing so wildly.
If it were anyone else, we'd help bring the stuff back. It's entirely BECAUSE of his bullshit that you chose not to.

>>35265162
A wealthy town means more people flock to it in hopes of making their fortune. You can't have a small town become a bustling economic centre without seeing similar population growth.

>>35265231
Yes, assholes don't get help, thats a problem how exactly ?
How does that change what we are doing ? When did we make a habit out of helping people that insult us ?

>>35265227
>I've ALWAYS been
Flat out lies, there's been none of this conversation from your perspective up until now.
ESPECIALLY with the WEIRD and UNNECESSARY CAPITALIZATION for EMPHASIS.

Making the town bigger is a good thing. Helping people is a good thing.

>>35265192

But the thing about attracting idiots is very important, I mean, that one kid guard was ready to slay us, he was an idiot and a minority in the town, but happens when idiots are NOT the minority in a town on the edge of Monster Territory?

Blood, lots and lots of blood.

>>35265067
>fat people are unseasonable

Objectively false. With the right spices anything can be seasoned.

>>35265232
Why would we want it to be that ? That doesn't help us at all. It just brings more idiots like him, next time to "clear the forest of dangerous beasts" and then they get into fights by not being able to tell monster from monster-kin like the guard boy.

>>35265259
around the time we helped out the lady who attacked us because she had good intentions, even though it was idiotic.

Dragging the cart back, but snarky.
Writing.

>>35265277
>muh border control
Fuck that.
Human/monster utopia through peace and understanding HO!

>>35265280
>helped out the lady who attacked us because she had good intentions
Which lady ?

>>35265281
Oh for fucks sake.

>>35265281
I don't think our sisters will survive since they'll be laughing so hard

>>35265281
I hope we're asking for compensation.

>>35265162
>Because it means less forest for us

I don't think encroachment is an issue. It's a Monster Forest. They know the forest belongs to us and anyone trying to take it would.... Well, that wouldn't end well for them.

Granted, there will always be retards dumb enough to try, but that problem is self correcting. Case in point, this fuck wit right here. If we hadn't come along, he'd be dead and the problem of a Fool in our forest would be solved.

>we don't need more people to come there, nor do they.

Actually, they do. The lady at the trading post was quite excited about the trade wealth allowing the town to grow a bit and attracting new settlers.

>>35265304
shezka
>>35265281
Fuck yes. The best revenge is bringing his cart and family back, and laughing at him.

>>35265269
>that one kid guard was ready to slay us, he was an idiot and a minority in the town
That's also because no Arachne has been to the town in his generation.
We're the first to come through since Mom came through, and that was years ago, implied to be more than 18 years.

If more Arachne trade and interaction with monsterkin happens, and everyone in the town has a small but steady supply of monster-produced goods, then it won't be as big a problem as you're making it out to be.

>>35265302
They tried that, its why we don't have a forest nation anymore.

>>35265304
He probably means Sheszka.

>>35265336
That is both explicitly not the case and yellow journalism of the highest degree.
Like
>>35265332
says, you are making it out as way worse than it is just because you don't like the guy.

>>35265269
The kid was spooked because he was green and never had any interaction with a giant fucking spider. If monsters start coming and going on a regular basis, being helpful citizens and all that, we probably wouldn't run into that situation again.

>>35265302

>had a monster Utopia
>Humans came and tried to take everything Monster Utopia had
>There is no Monster Utopia anymore

>>35265329
Sheszka didn't insult us or anything like that. She didn't even mean us harm. She wanted to make us her new pack. And she was desperate and hungry, not ignorant and rude. Thats two completly different situations.

>>35265329
The best revenge is doing exactly as he tells us. Alright. I wish I would be your enemy one day.

>>35265369
That's got very little to do with a combined monster/human utopia.
Also it assumes that no governmental or social change has happened in hundreds of years.

In short, I think insulted panicmongers are losing their heads, and need to calm down.

>>35265336
There will be peace because everyone is afraid of the spider queen. Everyone will have the understanding that we will kick their ass if they misbehave.

Have you ever had your ass kicked by something with EIGHT LEGS?

>>35265364

But that's the thing, the only monsters we have seen so far to actually interact with people on a large basis are harpies, and that didn't help with the green rookie.

>>35265374
I don't actually have any enemies. All friends or acquaintances.

>>35265302
Hell Yeah.

United race Civ!

>>35265358
>That is both explicitly not the case
Thats exactly how it happened.
And me not liking the guy has nothing to do with the trade issue, because he wouldn't aid the trade, he wanted to NOT bring trade to the town, thats why he came into the forest at all.

>>35265374
>And she was desperate and hungry, not ignorant and rude.

Actually she was desperate, hungry and ignorant.
Please don't pretend that if Sheszka had been large and male she's still be living.

>>35265399
the rookie didn't freak out about harpies, did he?
Nope!
>>35265405
>exactly how it happened
Except it was a monster specific nation, and the cause for war was ??? because we weren't informed properly, and you are making numerous assumptions based entirely on vitriol and panic.

>>35265393
>ruling a nation through fear
>ruling a nation that depends upon your existence in order to survive
>not expecting it to collapse the second you die

>>35265374
he didn't tell us to do anything
his wife told him to shut up and then begged us to escort them to town. she said nothing about the carriage
honestly, i am just thinking they are dumb enough to have all their worldly possessions in there and will end up destitute without it.
Also, its not like we are doing this for him.

Also, keep in mind they never saw anyone like us, we can at least make a good first impression.

>>35265383

>Also it assumes that no governmental or social change has happened in hundreds of years

>Merchant calling us a beast and thinking we should bow down to him because he is human

He MIGHT be the minority, but we don't know that for certain, but it isn't a good sign, at all.

>>35265405
It was a PLOT POINT that we don't quite know why or how the war went down, you dick.
To claim you do know, now, just to dick over a merchant, is not only lying and historical revisionism, it's exactly the kind of thing that made that merchant a dick in the first place.

>>35265440
>not planning to live forever

>>35265374
Reread what was said. He hasn't tried to order us around one bit. We are doing this as a favor for his wife, who has to put up with this shit.

>>35265421
I see no reason why not ? No one is advocating we murder the guy or leave him in the forest.
The point was about doing him extra favors.

>>>35265428
>So the empire went up against the forest, before it had settled on the plains and built the capital. And when the 'expeditionary force' went up against the forest, they got slapped down, exceedingly hard.
Thats the reason, read the backstory.

We don't need to tell him off, let the townspeople do it for us when he reacts to all the harpies and arachne.

>>35265461
That doesn't actually agree with the "human+monster=war" thing at all, and does nothing to further your point, and explicitly disagrees with the guy above who goes on about humans+monsters=war.

>>35265421
>Please don't pretend that if Sheszka had been large and male she's still be living.
you won't get people to stop pretending these kind of things

>>35265445
>He MIGHT be the minority, but we don't know that for certain,
Well, WE do know that.

Not sure if our character knows it.

Is REQMs Q&A meta, or can we count the in setting stuff as lessons Spidermom and Elfdad gave us?

>>35265405
http://pastebin.com/KeywKEJi
If you're going to spend this much time bitching about something, you can at least spend 5 mins reading the background material.

And trade by definition means an exchange of goods or services of approximately equitable value. He doesn't think highly of Oakring but the only way he will get the goods is by paying them fairly.

>>35265421
>Please don't pretend that if Sheszka had been large and male she's still be living.
>large
you're right, because someone large attacking you out of starvation is either lying or a world-eater
now, if he was as skinny as she was...
maybe mom would have a bit less moth powder, who knows~

>ITT: muh perfect run

>>35265471
No it doesn't. The humans came into the region, tried to subdue the monsters, got their shit slapped. Afterwards the monsters let it be, the supremacy church spent some time fostering the racial hatred because no one did anything about it, and the crusade started later as revenge for the shit slapping earlier. So yes, leaving humans to allow them their delusions and trading with them will not bring about monster/human utopia.

>>35265405
>talking out your ass to win an argument

>>35265503
So what you are saying is that monster/human trade would explicitly prevent all of these problems, and you agree 100% with the human/monster trade utopia path?
You are also saying we should be helping the humans out to give them good impressions?
Because that is what the evidence you are citing suggests.

>>35265536
>So what you are saying is that monster/human trade would explicitly prevent all of these problems
Yes.
>You are also saying we should be helping the humans out to give them good impressions?
No. Because the humans of that empire had been living close to monster for centuries, and it didn't prevent the supremacy schurch at all, a lot of good impressions were made in that time, and it obviously didn't help.

Trading with others is a great and wonderful thing. But letting them settle near you without any restrcitions leads to shit.

I feel like a rowboat caught between two ships of the line.

>>35265565
The good news is that most of those cannon rounds will be going over your head.

>>35265536
Actually, monster/human trade would help things, as the supremacy church banned trade with people not belonging to their empire in order to isolate their people from monsters.

>>35265558
Actually, building a big bustling human city off of helpful monster/human trade would probably lead to a great many wonderful things for both parties involved.

As opposed to, you know, forming isolationist empires and ignoring the other to such a degree they can start ENTIRE CHURCHES dedicated to misinforming about us.

>>35265405
>And me not liking the guy has nothing to do with the trade issue, because he wouldn't aid the trade, he wanted to NOT bring trade to the town, thats why he came into the forest at all.
true, he came to basically bypass the town. he doesn't want trade, he is trying to get to the source because he is a moron.

>>35265503
so what we need to do is conquer human lands, crush the church of supremacy, and promote a more peaceful alternative?

>>35265565
It doesnt help that we also row in our dinghy at the almost slowest pace possible.

plenty of time to think, but no distance covered by the end of the day.

>>35265536
>You are also saying we should be helping the humans out to give them good impressions?
How would helping one human that is explicitly a asshole foster better human/monster relationships ? We already have those, that town is perfectly ok with us. This guy isn't going to go back to us racist friends and tell him about the great arachne who are wonderful beings that deserve respect and admiration, just because we played pack mule for his shit.

>As opposed to, you know, forming isolationist empires and ignoring the other to such a degree they can start ENTIRE CHURCHES dedicated to misinforming about us.
That church existed long before then, and neither empire was isolationist.

I say drag the cart, but make him walk. If he protests loudly, gag him.

Converse pleasantly with his wife.

>>35265598
>No more church of supremacy
>Replacing it is the church of "I am a giant spider.", dedicated to uplifting messages and finding the inner giant spider in all of us.

>>35265597
>and ignoring the other to such a degree they can start ENTIRE CHURCHES dedicated to misinforming about us.
Seriously, go read the backstory. That church existed long before they came into the vicinity of our forest.

>>35265630
They were isolationist enough that nobody knew about monsters very well, and everyone was entirely misinformed on how monsters were.

That doesn't sound like they had any actual contact. Almost as if they were two incredibly isolationist empires on the verge of war or something. Funny that.

>>35265597

Or, y'know, we could build a big city based off of monster/human trade until some outsiders came in, took over said city, and thought a better alternative was to force us to make the goods we traded before.

We don't NEED to trade with them, at all, we are entirely self-sufficient, they will come to rely on us for their wealth and will acknowledge this FACT and more than likely find themselves completely HATING the idea and take ALTERNATE routes.

This is a COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE concern.

>>35265598
Yes. We are going to bring about peace by killing all of them. You are a political mastermind, anon.

>>35265565
Well, at least we know that OP hit the bigtime now.

His first real shitstorm. You should be proud, REQM!

>>35265630
>This guy isn't going to go back to us racist friends and tell him about the great arachne
This guys isn't, but what about the wife and the son?
It's like you're completely forgetting about two other parties that are right there and stand to lose significantly if we don't bring the cart with us.

>>35265565
It's like you've never been in a thread with a monster girl protagonist.

First Lamia Daughter, Then Scorpion Girl, Now...

Shax doesn't count as her run was comedy She's still the best though

>>35265660
you NEED to LEARN to TYPE in a LESS DISTINCTIVE MANNER if you are going to get any traction, mister merchant hater.

Also less rampant paranoia.

Hope that story update comes soon. The shitflinging contest going on above our tiny rowboat is getting old fast.

>>35265663
Second, I'm guessing you weren't here for dad's return.

>>35265683
Agreed

>>35265656
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>People generally didn't give a fuck about monsters, outside of the ones who'd kill people- but after a few generations of the church of human supremacy, and the empires rulings preventing trade and contact

They did have contact wqith monsters perfectly fine, the human empire prevented the contact, it wasn't the forest peoples choice to be isolated, the humans, who already knew about the monster-folk being okay, stopped the contact and later turned against them.

>>35265682

Rampant Paranoia is a perfectly legitimate form of paranoia when it comes to trade and the future of several races in a given area.

>>35265703
>war only occurred after generations of trade and contact being prevented
But anon, that's what being isolationist means.

>>35265558
>the humans of that empire had been living close to monster for centuries, and it didn't prevent the supremacy schurch at all, a lot of good impressions were made in that time, and it obviously didn't help.

No. The Q&A mentioned restrictions on trade and contact.

>HFY dicks from across the sea came and attacked Monster Civ.
>Got their shit pushed in.
>Licked their wounds, settled on the plains and began taking over all the local human lands.
>After generations of the HFY Church and no interaction with Monster-kin, people just forgot the truth and started believing the bull shit.
>Much larger army attacked Monster Civ.
>Our city fell but we took them with us.
>Their empire collapsed.
>The HFY Church lost most of its power and control. These days most of their bull shit has faded away. Only a few idiots and fundies carry the HFY torch.

>>35265656
please read http://pastebin.com/KeywKEJi

interestingly, the monsterfolk who slapped down the empire expedition force were perfectly fine with allowing that very same empire to conquer all the other humans outside their forest and consolidate their power, supremacy religion, etc.
Should have nipped that shit out in the bud.

>>35265652
>And it is said that even the smallest of creatures can have a giant spider residing inside of it. For lo, the holy matron LYRA did say on the seventh day of the seventh month that it did be such, yes.

>>35265713
Not really. Down that road leads to being isolationist forever while the world passes you by, and eventually being those shitty undiscovered tribes with retarded practices. Like the ones in the modern day. Or the lizardmen. Depending on if you want real or in-story examples.

>>35265667
How would they be even more positive inclined if we drag the cart, more so then after having saved their lives ? The cart thing isn't goping to make a difference in their positive opinion of us.

>>35265723
Yes, isolation the HUMANS enforced, not the monster, which is why trying to be approachable to them won't do us any good, because clearly it didn't the first time around.

>>35265725
>The Q&A mentioned restrictions on trade and contact.
Those came later, people had been living in that region long before the church came around.

>>35265748
Yep. Sounds isolationist to me.
Whaddayouknow, an isolationist policy leads to folks outside of your purview doing things you don't want!

>>35265748
It seems like any time strange people come across the ocean in really big boats, the local populace gets fucked over right quick.

>>35265661
>Crushing a cult = slaughtering the entire population
nice strawman

>>35265682
>Only ONE PERSON EVER uses caps as a means of emphasis
i am not that anon and i have the same "distinctive" (TM) writing style

>>35265773
see
>>35265748
Isolationism on both sides, yo.

>>35265787
oh, I use caps for emphasis sometimes to.
But THAT guy has a VERY distinct STYLE of using WAY too MANY capitals for NO real REASON.

It gives him the impression of ranting like a loon.

>>35265748
Yeah, their foreign policy was clearly lacking.
I suspect is has a lot to do with an innate territorial nature. They probably never even thought to challenge the matters of other races on their own lands. Their land, their rules.

>>35265773
>How would they be even more positive inclined if we drag the cart
Because they saw that, even though the husband is being a racist asshole, the nice Arachne didn't leave the family destitute.

>>35265803
>Isolationism on both sides, yo.
Nothing in the text says the forest people were isolationist. We got written text on how the human side curtailed contact, but saying the forest way isolationist is just your assumption because it serves your argument.

>>35265820
Thats why we let them carry their shit back. They aren't going to think worse of us for not dragging their shitty cart for them, they don't even know we could do that.

>>35265787
>invade human territory
>behead those who call spiders violent and kill an entire religion
>expect the people to like or support you in any way
You're a fucking idiot.

Jesus, we're already a few posts to autosage and only a few quest posts. You guys and your pointless shitflinging.

>>35265845
>nothing says they were isolationist
Other than the fact that they just sort of sat on by while human affairs went on and they didn't lift a finger to do anything about it until they came onto forest territory?

Are we working with different definitions of "isolationist" here?

>>35265813
Or they just assumed those nice humans that had been living at their borders for all this time wouldn't be okay with them getting subjugated by a human supremacist empire.
Clearly they were wrong.

>>35265773
>Those came later, people had been living in that region long before the church came around.

That's what I said. Read better. Things were mostly chill between humans and monster-kin.

Then the foreign empire moved in and took over. Imposed restrictions on trade and contact. The HFY Church then spent generations poisoning minds against us.

>>35265803

Maybe THAT is the STYLE he was GOING for?

Lot's of people do that kinda shit, fuck, I do it subconsciously on here when trying to put extra emphasis on it, it's very difficult to perform a very common action and yet somehow still have enough of a "unique" spin to it for it to be noticeable.

I mean, I don't agree with that guy on some points, but the same basic idea I can-sorta-maybe agree with, and that idea is CAUTION when dealing with outside influences on our home-turf and not upsetting the balance of said turf through unnecessary and not-entirely beneficial growth.

That dude's main concern, or at least what I managed to pick up, was the concern of rampant idiocy infesting the town too fast for it to be vetted out, and the following results of said idiocy ruining everything for everyone.

Idiocy is the only real infinite resource after all.

>>35265859

Spiderbutt and Spiderbutt Politics is VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS.

How have you not grasped this basic rule yet, anon?

>>35265943
Don't forget the earlier crossbow versus regular bow versus spiderbutt mounted arbalests.

>>35265980

Spiderbutt both makes everything better, and also makes it be a thousand fold more serious a matter than it is actually intended to be.

>>35265980
That was actually productive and relevant.
This one is just some people not grasping that disliking the asshole merchant and disliking the idea of rampant human incursion into our forest are two seperate things. And the first not going to have any real impact on the second.

>>35265980
How could you forget the TINY NETS?
The best part is we could make a tiny net ACTUALLY WORK by making it sticky.

We forgot to introduce our self as a giant spider.

>>35266006

Not only would the TINY NET be sticky, it would also be made of a substance significantly harder to cut than kevlar!

>>35266006
My apologies. Crossbow versus regular bow versus spiderbuttbow versus TINY NETS.

>>35265870
>Or they just assumed those nice humans that had been living at their borders for all this time wouldn't be okay with them getting subjugated by a human supremacist empire.
they were not ok with it, the empire used violence to force the issue.

>>35266031
truly, the TINY NET is the strongest and best weapon.

>>35266006
Not sure we could make them sticky. Not for Jins use, anyway.

They's stick to her just as much as her intended target.

One of the reasons I love this quest is because of the wildly dissenting views and motivations for the people participating in it.

Which is weird, because normally I hate this kinda bullshit.

Must be the Spiderbutt.

>>35266074
we might have to include handles, but you just CAN'T argue with the results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCI9Y4VGCVw

Imagine if he couldn't reverse the capture method because he was too sticky!

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>>35266104
None can resist it anon

>>35266104
No matter how much we might disagree. The Spiderbutt brings us all back together at the end of the day.

>>35266104
Spiderbutts are force multipliers for quest enjoyment.

>>35266104
>>35266132
But spiders don't have butts

That's her stomach anon.

>>35266137
Which will make it even more funny when we finally hit an evolution that takes away our spiderbutt.

>>35266132
Oh, NOW I see why that picture bothers me so much: the symbol on the back is flat, which messes with perspectives.

>>35266137
And then we're promptly divided again when we think about what kind of spiderbutt we want

>>35266171

REQM has already said that the only time we lose Spiderbutt is if we hit an evolution that allows shapeshifting, and even then our "Human/Elf" form would still have spider appendages / eyes on it.

Spiderbutt loss is a myth.

>>35266179
I'm fine with all of them, but I want to avoid fuzziness because goddamn being fuzzy is awful.I know it won't matter in the quest, but I just can't ignore my personal experience on how miserable life is when you are fuzzy

>>35266179

But that is only a minor issue, as we would all love the new spiderbutt anyway.

Truly REQM has invented the most horrible of addictions.

>>35266179
I found we agreed on the kind of spiderbutt. The spiderlegs on the other hand ...

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>>35266176
That's because the actual spider it's based on has a flat butt.

>>35266224
I think we're split on two different butts.

>>35266195
I am actually looking forward to this, though I'm unsure if Lyra would go that route.