All right third thread in a row catching this a soon as it goes up, man always happy to see this

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>>35128568
Hey, man.

I just finished the Dancer/Wizard Hybrid class. Its stats gain per level ended up really low, so Im thinking I may need to give it one more passive or raise the power of its abilities a little bit to compensate. What do you think?

Seducer “We live only to discover beauty. All else is a form of waiting.”
– Khalil Gibram, Sand and Foam
4 Dex
2 Con
4 Int
4 App

+6 HP
+3 MP

+1 Elemental


(A) Forbidden Dance (12MP) – In addition to the Dancer's normal dance effects, you can also afflict all enemies who can see you with Stop for 1 round
(P) Waves of Pain: You can cast elemental spells so that they affects all enemies within 100” (who can see you). Spells cast this way auto hit but cost +10MP
(P) Inviolable Beauty: You can add your Appearance bonus to your PDV and MDV
Armor Prof: None
Item Box: None

I am currently also considering which quote to use for the job header... these are the things that slow me down in writing the handbook the most, really :P

Beauty is power; a smile is its sword.
John Ray

Love of beauty is taste. The creation of beauty is art.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
The world's biggest power is the youth and beauty of a woman.
Chanakya

A witty woman is a treasure; a witty beauty is a power.
George Meredith

<-- Updated PDF with Eldric and Lyann's new sheets.

Includes the Seducer, the new Dancer/Wizard hybrid. No I didint give Lyann a seducer level yet, waiting for everyone else to agree on it first

>>35128661
>(P) Inviolable Beauty: You can add your Appearance bonus to your PDV and MDV

Made me laugh, enemies either too distracted or missing on purpose.

Im all for the Seducer class.

>>35128661
The problem with switching Lyann to Seducer is that she hasn't built up the large mana pool that something like this would need, and the MP growth is too slow to compensate.

>>35128661
Ahh its always flavour that stumps people, like the George Meredith one looks good, the class looks pretty good as well, seems like a choice

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>>35128744
Well, the dancer has "slippery" as a defensive skill. When an enemy attacks it, the dancer can move away.

The courtesan has a "soft charm". Enemies cant attack her in melee. Still can use abilities and spells against her, tho

So I thought the seducer would have a more "standard" defense.

>>35128758
>slow mana growth
Thats on purpose. STOP means an enemy cannot do anything during its turn, and all attacks against it are automatic critical hits. Its a very nasty effect.

Personally I think she does need at least 3 more HP and MP per level, but I would have to lower her attribute gain by 2 more points and I dont know what could be lowered down.

That's why im asking for advice.
The other idea I have in mind is to do the same as with the Janissary.

Completely wipe out its MP gain per level as a fixed number, and instead make it 1/2 its Seducer level (rounded up) every turn. At first it will be really slow, but at higher levels it will be much stronger/faster.

It would also free 1 point more for attributes.
Maybe place it on weapon skills or in app

>>35128661
Keep Lyann as a Dancer until her MP is lower than 20MP, then switch her to Thief.
The Burglar's Eyes will help us in seeing what items enemies have, and she can steal them while Grimmur and Eldrick keep them busy.

As for Eldrick, turn off Ranger, turn on Healer.
Invest 26 Bonus Points into Elemental to get two Spell Tricks: Soul Collector and Harvestor.
That will give us +4MP per kill and +1 Item per kill.

>>35128828
I'm not saying that the slow mana growth is bad; for what the Job offers, it's a good tradeoff.
Making it work like the Janissary would force people to make Seducer into a long-term investment.
And considering the Job, that extra point should go into App.

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>>35128828

instead of +3MP per turn, replace it with

(P) Soul's Beauty: You gain 1/2 your Seducer level 8rounded up) as MP every time you level up as a Seducer.

That way it would be 1/1/2/2...but at level 5 Seducer it catches up and after that its all gain instead

>>35128842 I am okay with this idea, what does everyone else think?

>>35128872
Question: for the purposes of Soul Harvester and Collector, does a Dancer's Dance count as an always on effect on enemies, and do their deaths count for the purposes of these tricks?

>>35128890
which dance? they all cost 4MP per round to use. some continue after you stopped paying/dancing, tho

And I assume you are asking because of the Seducer's "Waves of Pain" ability? ... ah, no, nevermind. I got it

You are asking, if Lyann took Soul Collector, and an enemy affected by her dance, dies, does she get +4MP?

Uhmm... I would say yes. So yeah, maybe there isint such a mana problem after all.

Can just take out the +3MP per level and give her another +1 Elemental per level, or another +1 App per level. I think I will do that

Plus we could always give her an staff, wand, etc with a ghost card and let her farm MP like mad since her Waves of Pain hit everyone.

>>35128937
>I would say yes
That has the potential to be seriously over-powered if done right.
Especially if she has both Soul Harvester and Collector.

So a Dancer, with Soul Harvester and Collector, using Dances, gets +4MP (to her Mana Crystal) and +1 Item for every monster that the party kills so long as she has her Dance on.

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Alright, I think we're good like this

Seducer “A witty woman is a treasure; a witty beauty is a power.”
– George Meredith
4 Dex
2 Con
4 Int
5 App

+6 HP

+1 Elemental

That and 1/2 her level (rounded up) as mana on level up should be good, I think. So, should I give Lyann 1 level on Seducer, or after we come out of the dungeon, so she gets used to Dancer first? would be nice, can do it IC.

Eldric is checking Lyann's "sheet" and notices Seducer amongst her available jobs, and we play it from there

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>>35128999
Yes, but its not infinite damage or so. It's just synergy. Cant shoot down good ideas just because theyre good ideas.

Could use some of her bonus points on elemental later just for that. Like I said, lets hav e Eldric come up with it.

He's a fa/t g/uy after all, that's sort of the premise of the story. He finding synergy and loops in the system of things

>>35129006
Tell Lyann we're changing her to a new Job, and switch her to Seducer. Pump Lyann's Elemental by 10 from her Bonus Points, and get the Soul Harvester trick.
Tell Lyann that we want to switch her to a Thief in a little bit, because then we can have her Steal special items off of boss monsters.

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"Uhmm... well, they're not trash, but it's not mind-blowing awesome, either." ~says Grummir
"That's why I said,let's keep going down." ~adds Ardkill while stroking his beard
"How far is this dungeon myapped, nya?"

You take out your notebook...

"Down to the 2 0 t h floor. Next is Satyrs, they're magical attackers using single target spells. They drop [High Class Fur] and sometimes [Satyr's Flute], which counts as a wand." -you sayafter checking your class notes.
"Well, I don't myand, let's try them out, nya!"

* Go down to kill satyrs
* Keep farming this boss
* Other

>>35129058
Like I said, that's a good idea, b ut let's do it when we come out of the dungeon.

>>35129088
>* Go down to kill satyrs

>>35129088
>Go down to kill satyrs
Can we use our Bonus Points on ourselves, then?
Get Soul Harvester and Collector?

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>35129088
>* Go down to kill satyrs
Movin on

>>35128661
>weapon tricks
hello, i'd like to bring up weapon tricks, since our character sheet says parry+5 others

my suggested build would be
parry, deflect arrows, swipe, windsword(?)x3

deflect arrows adds weapon skill to physical defense value. I choose this over magical defense value because mundane arrows will be more common than fire balls.

swipe lets us attack two adjacent enemies at the same time. useful for melee, but mostly chosen as a prerequisite for wind blade.

windbladex3, let's extend the range of our melee attack by 10 feet each time it is chosen. Good for fliers who we'd otherwise have trouble with, ranged attackers, or enemies that use superior speed to get out of our reach. It is very very useful for us in particular because of our heirloom sword. Our sword +windblade, lets us stay in the back row while making melee attacks that restore our mp/hp giving us essentially regeneration as long we can keep out of the enemies range.
>Bonus points
I know we decided on this, but it's not on the character sheet. So I request that the npc sheets be adjusted to show bonus points zero and appropriate bonus to the stat in question.
wis/int for mom
con/dex for eli
??? for lyann(know we decided but not the exact point spread)

thank you

>(P) Waves of Pain: You can cast elemental spells so that they affects all enemies within 100” (who can see you). Spells cast this way auto hit but cost +10MP

This sounds alot like the archmage class ability to make single target spells hit everything. Please add an ability to archmage or reduce waves of pain.

>cursed items
we had an arguement over this last time, but it was confirmed that eldric would actually be interested in cursed items for himself and his family.

I'm not saying we should snap a collar around anyones neck but we should let mom know about the possibility of life extension and enhancement through curses and let her consider the matter.

>>35129088
>* Go down to kill satyrs

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>>35129130
>Can we use our Bonus Points on ourselves, then?
Sure, but im not letting you guys take those back, are you g uys sure you want to do that? if you get at least 2 ppl to agree with you, I think we can do it

By the way, we need to pick a divine spell trick for ourselves, and 1 elemental spell trick for Lyann

We have 11 Divine, and Lyann has 10 elemental
>>35129165
Yes, this. Ive been waiting for you guys to care about those.
***

You go downstairs and start exploring the floor. The satyrs walk around in groups of three, which isin't a threat for your party.

They do attack with spells, each doing 33 points of damage on a full hit, or 17 on a resisted spell. Your Spell Resistance is 25. Lyann's is 26, so they do nothing when you resist their spells, and not much when the spells come through.

"Alright, these guy's aren't that tough." -says Grummir as he picks up the [High Quality Fur] and stores it away

Lyann clings from your sleeve as you walk around.

"Lyann, are you alright?"
"Ah... yes. I've just heard really scary things about dungeons. That it eats people, for example."
"That's true, nya! but first it has to kill you, and I think we're doing pretty good, nya!"

Your redheaded friend doesn't seems particularly encouraged by that

"Should we take down the boss?" ~asks Ardkill

* Keep farming Satyrs
* Take the boss

>>35129234
>* Take the boss
Lets gets some loots

>>35129234
>* Take the boss
Best way to conquer that fear

>>35129165
>Weapon Tricks
I'm not against them, but keep in mind that Deflect Arrows requires us to have Parry turned on, which means we're going full defense and not doing anything else.

>>35129234
>Divine Trick
Power Summons

>Lyann's Elemental
Soul Harvester

* Take the boss

>>35129281
These seem like good tricks, I can back these

>>35129234
>* Take the boss


>divine spell trick for eldric
power summons

>elemental for lyann
Soul collector.
Does she even have a mana crystal to store mana from kills?

>bonus points
I'm going to have to say no for right now. I want get closer to our main quest before deciding

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>>35129165
The reason I resetted the bonus points is because I remade all the classes and jobs, so their base points changed. I feel its a valid time to restore the bonus points and let you guys reassign them based on what the base points are now. I already updated Elli's sheet but not mom's yet

>>35129281
>>Lyann's Elemental
>Soul Harvester
She doesnt has a Mana Crystal, tho. You should probably buy her one or hand her yours. A empty mana crystal is just 20s. Yours currently has 24MP, making it cost 44s. Just so you guys know

***

You walk to the boss room. This boss is a large-looking metal caterpillar with hollow spikes on its back.

The Lvl 6 [Cannon Caterpillar] is not alone
It is surrounded by five LVL 6 [Green Caterpillar] that crawl around the room's floor, walls and roof.

"Alright. Let's go with the standard. I ram the boss and you guys keep the minions busy, then help me with it."
"Uh... Grummyar. They're crawling all over the place"
"I can see that, so?"
"Won't they just crawl over walls and such? I can use entagle and grab a few of them, but the others will get wherever they want to, nya!"
"Whatever, they're just low level bugs"
"I dun like this place" ~says Ardkill
"Eldric, what do you think?"

***
*Lets just pick them out while you keep the boss busy
*Other

>>35129348
Unless we were never going to put points into Elemental, it makes no sense to wait to use our Bonus Points.

Not to mention, the sooner we get Collector, the more loot that we'll get.

>>35129366
>*Other
fire barrier between catepillar and group, windblade those suckers off the walls so they have to crawl through fire to get to us.

>>35129405
Was just about to post something similar. This.

>>35129366
>*Lets just pick them out while you keep the boss busy
Lyann to use Dance to make enemies move no more than 5 feet.

Eldrick to use Fire Balls (Blast, Cascade) to take out the Green Caterpillars, trying to catch as many as he can in the AoE.

>>35129372
In the interest of gaining loot, i'd agree to putting enough points in elemental to gain soulcollector+harvester and banking the rest.

clarification, does the apply to monsters that the party kills collectively or only when eldric makes the killing blow?

because grumnir makes most of the kills

>>35129405
>>35129414
A combination between these sounds good. Lyann dances, create a Fire barrier, use a Wind Storm/ Wind Boosted Fireball on the greens. If wind ball doesn't work then wind barrier and fireball going through the wind to boost it maybe?

>>35129434
It just says per kill, and is ambiguous.

It should be updated in the next update to be more explicit, KoAND.

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>>35129414
>>35129442

That's a pretty good idea, and I like that you are paying attention to the other's sheets.
>>35129414
It NORMALLY applyes only on killing blow. The "trick" some anon noticed is that if Lyann is dancing, then technically she is always affecting the monsters, so she "also" deals the killing blow

Lyann slow + Eldric fireballs ++
Barriers, barriers everywhere ++
Need a tie breaker... I think

>>35129477
>It just says per kill, and is ambiguous.

35129478
>It NORMALLY applyes only on killing blow.


Then this would be more helpful for when lyann gains enough bonus points for those spell tricks.

i'm gonna have to say bank the points for now.

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>>35129477
Its normally only if you deal the killing blow. The idea on giving it to lyann is that her dance its considered "ongoing" so technically she's always giving the killing blow together whit whoever gives it

>>35129348
Sounds good.

King we can have over 100 elemental/divine right? I'd like to throw points into tyem.. but it's useless if it has a cap of 100 no point in waste

>>35129478
lyann dances, we put barriers where the catepillars must go through to attack, then pry them off the wall with weapon trick windblade or a wind spell.

>give lyann our mana crystal
She's making more kills than us with her dance, and earns 4x as much from each kill.

>>35129507
Lyann does have the needed Bonus Points. Since she got Soul Collector as her regular progression Elemental Trick, we can use 10 of her 38 Bonus Points to get Harvester right now.

>>35129604
With wind blade and set it to collect mp.
Give it to her.

>>35129612
Awesome, we should do that then.

support lyann getting enough bonus points in elemental to get harvester.

Righto, only here for like five minutes, so posting it now.
Class idea: Silvertongue

Mix of Spellchanter and Singer

(A) Beautiful Voice. By reading a book or story, whether fictional or factual, is able to conjure a person or object from the book for 1dx-y rounds where x is the number of levels the person has in Silvertongue and y is either the total level of the creature summoned or the value of the object in gold coins (minimum 1). The object or creature summoned has all of the properties which it is described with in the story, but the passage must come from a completed work.
(A) Sing. (as in Singer)
(P) Honeyed Words. Thanks to the remarkable, world-shifting voices of singers, all singers have a passive bonus of 40 app, though it does not affect looks.

It's essentially a summoning class that can take some extra effects if done a certain way. (50 points if you tell me where I stole this from)

>>35129635
Same.
Since she is always dancing it should work quite nicely.

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>>35129541
>King we can have over 100 elemental/divine right?
yes

You use those to determine when you get spell tricks and for spell "limits"

You can use stronger spells the more points (NOT bonus points) you have in them.
You can throw 100 points and unlock +10 spell tricks, as well as making some abilities stronger, but it wont give you early access to the stronger spells.

Well, I guess we're going with the slow + fireballs
***

"Lyann, slow them down after Grummir rams the boss, alright? Miiyau, don't bother with the snare. They will be slow enough, just summon and hit them. Ardkill... I don't know how to do your job, j ust do whatever you think it's best, alright?"
"Aright"
"Wait a myanute, are you saying you knyaw how to do myane, nya!?"
"No, no. I'm just suggesting."
"Just do as the man says, cat" says Grummir as he takes off towards the boss

Ardkill rams the boss as usual, and then is showered by silk threads coming from every caterpillar in the room

Resisted
Resisted
Resisted
Fail to resist: Slowed
Resisted
Resisted

"The hell is this crap!?" -he's covered in silk threads that are sticking to the floor, and can barely move

Lyann starts dancing as you told her. She manages to slow down all the caterpillars... to a crawl? (that sounds so inneffective but it works)

The caterpillars are tougher than the monsters so far. You kill 2 that get caught by the combined areas of 2 fireballs, but another is just scorched and wounded

Miiyau fills the room with bug swarms, and Arrkill shoots a bolt at the scorched caterpillar finishing him off

* More fireballs
* Fire Arrows
* Other

>>35129659
>* Fire Arrows
There's two of them left. Let's finish them off with Miiyau.

>>35129659
Where are the little buggers located and how spread out are they? If they are relatively spread out then a "ring of fire" around our party would be best. If clumped up, then grena I mean fireballs are the best option.

Still, if we can rapid fire it the arrows may be a good bet too. Unless there's only a few left, in which case the arrows win out.

>>35129649
>Righto, only here for like five minutes, so posting it now.
>Class idea: Silvertongue
>Mix of Spellchanter and Singer
>(A) Beautiful Voice. By reading a book or story, whether fictional or factual, is able to conjure a person or object from the book for 1dx-y rounds where x is the number of levels the person has in Silvertongue and y is either the total level of the creature summoned or the value of the object in gold coins (minimum 1). The object or creature summoned has all of the properties which it is described with in the story, but the passage must come from a completed work.
>(A) Sing. (as in Singer)
>(P) Honeyed Words. Thanks to the remarkable, world-shifting voices of singers, all singers have a passive bonus of 40 app, though it does not affect looks.
>It's essentially a summoning class that can take some extra effects if done a certain way. (50 points if you tell me where I stole this from)
Reposting because updates hide discussion. Sadly.

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>>35129649
its a job, not a class. I was so hopeful for a new class when I started reading...

I haven't writen down the spellsinger yet

Anyway im copying it to a text file and will read it carefully later

>>35129698
You and Ardkill already killed the ones that were close to eachother. Another is on the roof and other is on the right wall

Also I dont think you really need a ring of fire since they are moving at 5" per round so it would take them like 20+ rounds to get to you anyway.

You, Ardkill and Miiyau easily pick out the last of the minions.

Lyann switches her dance, since there is only the boss left, so that it has a penalty to its attacks.

Grummir is still slowed, and the boss slams against him, then crawls away from him.

***
*Firearrow 10MP/38 damage
*Hybrid firearrow 20MP/68damage
*Stone, water or wind Arrow 20MP/68 damage
*Barrier
*Wall
*Other

Do you want Lyann to switch back to slow so the boss can only move 5" per turn, keep debuffing his attack, or start doing damage?

>>35129836
Sorry, mixed them up. Might do a new class with things like that later. Maybe Whelp, for those who are born entirely out of society, or Recruit, for those literally born on the battlefield.

>>35129784
>(A) Beautiful Voice
Its easier to treat it as a regular summon.

Since normally only divine casters can summon, it is still a very unique ability

>Sing
Obviously

>Honeyed words
But... singers run on charisma
Also, cards can give bonuses to attributes. I think using a passive skill "slot" in something that you can do with like 12 gold its a waste of a skill

Also, looks like Aberrant. In fact looks like Mako. Bookie is that you?

>>35129836
>Barrier of Fire
Have Lyann keep debuffing the boss' attack.

>>35129886
It's meant to be treated as a regular summon. But if you summon, say, a master swordsman of legend, all that legendary skill will cut down your enemy. OR you can summon up a 'cure' that only exists in myth, and cure a disease, though the cure will vanish quickly preventing it from being exploitable.

>>35129886
Also, no. Stole that from the book Inkheart. In that one, the things that were read were ripped right out of their story, which continued on without them, and they didn't go back.

Just a question here. Should we put any bonus to appearance? It seems to be the lowest stat

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>>35129967
Ah. I ran a thread called XWF using the Aberrant system, for over 2 years. A NPC called Mako had the power to turn her songs into reality so she was a "national treasure" for the People's Republic of China

"Hey, can any of you magical types clean this crap out of me!?" ~cries out Grummir as he tries to advance to the boss... slooowly
"I'm into it, nya!"

You place a fire barrier between it and the party. The worm prefers to go in, attack Grummir, then move away again. Thankfully it misses.

Ardkill summons a Heavenly Warrior and sends it to attack the giant caterpillar.

Miiyau dispels the debuff on Grummir.

* More fire barriers
* Fire Arrows
* Other Arrows
* Other

Btw Lyann got +20MP into the crystal. It now has 46MP

>>35130053
>Fire Arrows
Keep plinking away at it.

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>>35130045
who's appearance? Eldric gains +1 per Noble level
Normal people have up to 30 as MAX if they are really really lucky upon being born.

Anything over 20 is amazingly good, really

>>35130074
It eventually decides to go towards you instead of attacking Grummir!

...it misses
Grummir charges is again, trying to ram it away from you
Miiyau's summons attac the caterpillar, as does Arkill's
Lyann continues lowering its attack
Your flame arrows deal heavy damage

It looks almost dead. It begins to cast a spell!

* Finish it off
* Use your 1/day sword ability to interrupt the spell
* Other

>>35130053
>* Other
Can we use our 'ring of knowledge' on the creature to see if it has an elemental weakness and use the appropriate spell?

otherwise, just use windblade(sword set to mp recovery). Our melee attacks generally do, what, 50 dmg?

>>35130122
>Finish it off
Kill it before it finishes the spell.

>>35130122
>* Use your 1/day sword ability to interrupt the spell

>>35130053
That's fucking where I remember your name from, it's been bugging me. Lurker here. I remember that quest early on we were a washed up wrestler trying to get into the big ring again. That was fun, then the threads disappeared for a good while. Anyway thanks for running.

>>35130122
* Finish it off

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Since you guys asked about giving armor bonuses to her jewelry, what about something like this? Pic related. don't worry I erased the naugthy bits, should be SFW

>>35130190
Yeah I got depressed for a long while. It's hard to be an accountant when you CANT READ. And it didint help that I had drawing as a hobby, and GMing, all stuff that needed me to see what I was going on paper, which doesnt glows so I cant see it

>>35130136
Yes, you could. That reminds me, do you want to switch Lyann to thief and have her scan the creature for items, and/or steal something before it dies?

[Cannon Caterpilla]
303/1500 HP

Weak to Metal
Strong to Water

Special Ability: Metamorphosis It can surround itself with a cocoon and become a monster butterfly when under 500HP

Seeing as it is starting to change its chape, you try to finish it off
38 damage
Miiyau's bear hits it
50 damage
Ardkill's summon hits it
62 damage
Grummir hits it
90 damage total

It successfully surrounds itself with a cocoon. Your attacks damage the cocoon but aren't enough to break it

[Cocoon] 1000HP

A large and bright "5" appears on top of the cocoon in mid air

*hit it, hit it hard
*Other

<-- there you go, jewelry armor

>>35130293
>do you want to switch Lyann to thief and have her scan the creature for items, and/or steal something before it dies
YES.
And use our once a day power to interrupt the spell.

>>35130293
>*Other
Have lyann lower it's defense.

Use our windblade to gather more mp.

everyone else keep attacking

>>35130293
>Other
Switch Lyann to Thief, have her scan the Coccoon and the butterfly when it emerges.

Eldrick is to hit the Coccoon with the sword and get MP back.

>>35130293
Google ain't giving me shit, can I get some sauce?

>>35130293
>>35130367
This
>>35130335
It happened already

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>>35130394
Its a hentai called Dorei Maid. Its 4 episodes. Its based on a game... and I didint like the ending
They ended happily ever after, sort of, but it felt like they used a LOT of filler in the last episode, mentioning an exile into the desert and many dangerous battles that they never show, then just go back to their home realm
>>35130335

Cannon Caterpillar Staff -- No slots
This bright green staff ends in two yellow "horns" like a caterpillar.
Your spells also slow the target, lowering its move speed to 5 on-hit for 1 round
2g worth

Caterpillar Armor
This bright green armor has red and yellow dots and makes you look like some sort of giant bug.
+20 Armor
Immune to Slow
Worth 2g

***
"It has an armor and a staff, what should I grab!?"

You swing at the cocoon and reover 57MP

* Grab the Armor
* Grab the staff
*Other

>>35130293
Make this fucker cadaverific. Either there's a special drop if you blast this fucker before it emerges or it starts out weakened if you kill the cocoon. Either way it's a win.

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>>35130500
A number glows bright on top of the giant Cocoon

"3"

(so you still have a bit of time. Its at a little over 100HP atm)

"What are we waiting for?" -says Grummir
"Hold on, let her try and grab something off from it, first."
"Oh, so she's a courtesan, then? sure."

>>35130495
>* Grab the Armor
We need to start getting stuff that she can use as a Mamluk.

>>35130495
grab armor

>>35130495
>* Grab the staff
lyann could do with something more than the school standard wand.

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>>35130586
>>35130594
>>35130602
Alright someone roll 1d100, you need over a 27 to successfully grab something. Well keep the best of 3 rolls,

Armor++
Staff+

You want to use the other 2 remaining turns to try and steal the other thing, or just finish it off?

>changed her class
I go to the store to get me dinner and you manage to somehow fuck it up in the fifteen minutes I'm gone.

Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>35130635
Use 1 turn to steal the other thing.

>>35130635
Finish it off

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>35130635
1 more turn to grab something, then kill it.

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>35130635

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>>35130649
>>35130655
wow, such a pity that now you needed to roll high
Still 1 roll remaining

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>>35130669
You grab the armor.

Looks like yuo want to also grab the staff, so roll again. Same as before, need a 27+
3 rolls, and well keep the best result

Lyann somehow manages to pull a bright red, green and yellow caterpillar "disguise" from the cocoon!

A large "2" can be seen floating over the cocoon

* Grab the staff
* Finish it off

Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>35130703
* Grab the staff
Go!

>>35130703
>Finish it off

Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>35130703

>>35130726
She pulls out a short staff (or a big wand, depends on who you ask) shaped like a tree branch with a bright caterpillar at the end.

It has a little over 100HP

"Alright, everyone attack it now!"

(since it cant move, you guys auto hit)

The Boss dissapears, and leaves behind a small blue chest.

"That was fun, nya!"
"Ah, it's really handy having someone who can fleece them while they're still kicking" ~says Grummir

Roll 1d1000 for the loot. Well keep the best of 4 rolls

Rolled 191 (1d1000)

>>35130781
Let's see here...

Rolled 643 (1d1000)

>>35130781
lets hope for decent loots.

Rolled 280 (1d1000)

>>35130781

Rolled 142 (1d1000)

>>35130781
Hoping for good loot.

>>35130781
damn.. I just got home and missed the roll.

>>35130781
*Firearrow 10MP/38 damage
*Hybrid firearrow 20MP/68damage
*Stone, water or wind Arrow 20MP/68 damage

I noticed this before. but how does the staff work? Does it just reduce mp cost by half and allows us to use the spell or reduces the spells cost?
Because we're well attuned to fire arrow, and 10 mana does translate to 38 damage. But with the staff shouldn't it be 5 mana for 38 damage?

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x2 Butterfly Wing
Consumable. Instantly sends your party back to the entrance of the dungeon.
1g each

"Well, I'd say we really squeezed the juice out of that thing, wouldnt you?" says Ardkill
"Yeah, nya! Lyann was pretty useful, nya!"

Your redheaded slavegirl blushes a little bit. She looks more relaxed now as she hugs the armor and staff she just got

Grummir takes the armor and the staff from her, explaining the newbie how items are sold and then the money is split evenly amongst party members.

"Ah.. but... it's my first looty thing... ever..."
"Let her have them, nya! I'll give you 3 golds just so you let her have them, nya!"
"Well, I don't really need your money. I don't mind, but remember that whenever we get something from now on, it is the party's property, alright?"
"Alright" -says Lyann happily as she stores the armor and wand away

*Keep going
*Go back
>>35130928
yes, I forgot to reduce the costs when I typed that

>>35131002
>*Keep going

>spend enough bonus points for lyann to gain harvester elemental spell trick
>change lyann to dancer, only change back if someone asks her to steal something.

>>35131002
How is everyone's HP and MP situation? If they're good we keep going. Also, Lyann's levels, what are they now?

>>35131002
>*Keep going
We'll change Lyann's Job on the fly to match the situation.

Spend the Bonus Points to increase her Elemental to get Harvester for the extra items, and change her Job back to Dancer.
We'll switch to Thief as needed, and we'll level her Thief and Mamluk levels on our own.

>>35131002
Press on. Also praise Lyann for nabbin items.

>>35131002
>*Keep going

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>>35131038
She got +1 dancer level since she entered, and just now got +2 thief levels since thief is a basic class so killing a 5lvl boss is pretty good for a level 1 base class.

Miiyau is at 1/2 tank, MP wise. So its Ardkill. Everyone is at full HP

You need to go back home to spend the bonus points, I already explained that

So, knowing that, do you want to continue or go back?

>>35131088
>continue
we're going to a level 6 floor and most of us are double that, at least.

>>35131088
How long does it take to regain MP, is it like an extended rest? Sorry if you already answered this question before.

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>>35131109
Well, I guess we're going

You follow Grummir into the 6th floor. It is full of caterpillars, which pisses grummir off, but doesn't pose a meningful threat, specially since they are all melee and with Lyann's slow in place, they can't get close enough to attack before you shoot them down with spells, bolts and rocks.

You get
x24 [Fine Silk]

"Uh... I could probably make a dress with this, a small one. Or a nice scarf"
"I'd like a scarf, nya!"
"It's to sell it later."
"Aww... I want a scarf, nya!"

The 6th level floor is a large white kobold and its minions. They all have crossbows. Leaning back after taking a peek into the room, Grummir looks cheerful

"Well, at least it's not bloody caterpillars. I think I have silk threads on my teeth, and it'll take me a week to get it all off my beard!"
"Well, they can shoot from afar, so slowing them and esnaring them wont do myach, nya!"

* Use walls to block their Line of Sight then fireball them to death
* Other

>>35131002
Guys I know it late. Personally don't like up close and personal. But man.. as a knight we should have used our mount.. it's triple damage when you charge..Don't think we will be using it any time soon. but for a nice hp/mp gain we could get on knight summon mount and charge something.

>>35131088
continue

>>35131143
we usally have to sleep to get back most of our reserve..

Guys if you're up for it. we can go in and have everyone just attacking with normal weapon. We can summon a our Valkyrie to help with attack. and have Miiyau drain Lyann's stone for mana.

>>35131088
keep going

>>35131192
>* Use walls to block their Line of Sight then fireball them to death

>>35131192
>* Use walls to block their Line of Sight then fireball them to death

>>35131143
You get your full wisdom in mp after a good night's rest

>>35131195
>Miiyau drain Lyann's stone for mana.
Miiyau has her own stone.

also, stones that get large amounts of mana in it can get pretty valuable.

Better to save it for emergencies than to gain convenience against monsters half our level.

>>35131192
>* Other
Use Walls to block line of sight, use Summons to kill the minions, have Lyann switch to Thief so that when Grimmur and Eldrick have the boss' attention, she can steal stuff.

>>35131250
>also, stones that get large amounts of mana in it can get pretty valuable.
>Better to save it for emergencies than to gain convenience against monsters half our level.
1s per mana is not money...
Lyann would have to kill 250 monsters to get 1 gold. We would be better off giving that mana to some one who can heal/attack. and get past the level faster.
Miiyau doesn't accumulate mana in her own stone as fast. I am saying to just drain it. Not give it to her.

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>>35131258
While I support that idea, and really dont like suggesting actions, why dont you have her turn into a thief now before the battle starts so she can spy at the boss and decide if it has anything worth stealing to begin with?

Going with that, the regular kobolds all have a [Fine steel crossbow] with 1 slots. It does 25+dex bonus damage per hit. 1g

The boss has a [Giant Fine Steel Crossbow] which does 50 + dex bonus per hit. 4g

"Well, does anyone here cares about the crossbow?"
"I most certainly do" ~says Ardkill
"Uhmm... well, I would like to see what happens to a boss when you steal its weapon."
"That sounds funnya!"

So, go with walls and fireballs?

>>35131416
>walls and fireballs

>>35131416
Absolutely

>>35131416
>So, go with walls and fireballs?
yes.

>>35131416
Use walls to separate each kobold and the boss, and then steal the crossbows from each one before killing them.

>>35131416
yes

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>>35131448
>>35131460
>>35131463
ok

Dancing Lyann theme song
http://youtu.be/9GgMrxk_WPU

***

As usual, the fight starts when Grummit kicks the door down and rams the boss.

You erect a wall on the left, cutting off 6 kobolds.
Miiyau summons a cloud of insects filling the room. The insects bite at all the kobolds
Lyann starts dancing, lowering their attack.
Ardkill summons a Heavenly Warrior and throws it at the kobolds together with Miiyau's bear

As the next round starts, the kobolds on the right try to run away from the bear and the dwarven summon, then shoot at them

Grummir trades blows with the kobold boss, who retreats and shoots at him from the far end of the wall

Your fireballs explode on the kobolds and hurt them badly (no deaths tho)

Miiyau's bugs finish off the kobolds you did damage to

She casts a stone at the boss
Ardkill shoots the boss
Lyann continues dancing to reduce their attack rolls

* Fireballs at the kobold minions
* Firearrow at the boss
*Other

>>35131600
>* Firearrow at the boss

the 2 summons should take care of the trash.

>>35131302
It is when it gets past a certain point. Since Alchemists use them to make golems, they need the biggest stone they can find to start with because the golem cant be repaired or healed.

Over 1000MP it costs x100 what it should cost, so instead of 1g, its 100g

Sure, you can easily buy 4 stones of 250MP each with 1g, but who the fuck wants a golem with 250hp that cant be healed or repaired?

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>>35131652
You could use another element to pay more and do more damage, too

>>35131600
>* Fireballs at the kobold minions
Kill the minions so that Lyann will be safe to steal from the boss.

>>35131669
why would we want to spend the time to do that when instead of spending money or time doing that we can just summon our Valkyrie.

>>35131687
I am up do fire+wind.

>>35131696
I'm with this, aoe elemental combine to kill them off then get ready to lock down the boss since once it gets low hp its going to do some spell (at least that seems to be the pattern).

>>35131600
>* Fireballs at the kobold minions

>>35131754
>>35131748
>>35131696
guys do you understand the kobolds are behind a wall? with summons whiping thier asses?

>>35131600
can we just assume that eldric is using his 'ring of knowledge' to look at monsters and that their elemental weakness will be noted on the choices when we pick our spell?

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>>35131696
fireball+
>>35131652
firearrow+

>>35131738
the golem is permanent until killed or you make another

lets see... fireball 10 + wind 10 its 20 mana... 38 damage fireballs
or we could use exploding rocks for 20 + wind 10 so its 30 mana for 45 danage rock grenades

>>35131778
the ones on the left side, are behind a wall
the ones on the right are with the summons

And sure,I guess we could just summon a valkyria for 20 mana and have her join the dwarf and the bear in chasing around the minions

>>35131793
I wouldnt mind
The Kobold is weak to wood and strong vs earth

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>>35131738
Summons can't guard you 24/7 like a good golem can. Besides, what if you're going for the holy grail of golem creation? The truly self-actualized, sentient golem. Summons can't do that, and even if they did they'd only be temporary. To give birth to a new form of life, somebody's gotta be working on that. Also, such a thing is basically the fantasy equivalent of a robogirl, and robogirls are awesome.

>>35131778
Only half of the kobolds are behind a wall, you stupid fuck.

>>35131831
>20 mana
wouldn't that equal 20 x 3 + the int damage
>>35131857
Hey asshole.
>You erect a wall on the left, cutting off 6 kobolds.
While it doesn't say all I don't see the mention where there was 12. or that there are more running around. and even if it's true. Stop being as asshole.

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>>35131833
I have to agree

But that's not chahamaru

>>35131929
Nope, it's Arma, the golem girl from Recettear. She just wanted a friend, and enjoyed shopping. Chachamaru is also a fine girl though.

>>35131833
Sounds like a damn good goal.
Can we mold a golem to not be big and bulky? Just like 6 feet tall and compact into a lanky person. while retaining it's strength and armor capabilities?

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>>35131920
blast spells do damage on a 2:3 ratio. A fireball is a blast spell so it doesnt do the same
First time you take the blast spell trick
20 mana = 30 damage in AoE
Second time
20 mana = 40 damage in AoE
Third time
20 mana = 60 damage AoE as if it was a single target spell

>>35131929
So after 1000 mana on a stone things start to get expensive

>>35131831
just so you know i loved XWF my head canon is that Ned beat targin and removed them through clever tactics and romances all the women that like him and takes over the federation and lives happy and rich

>>35131920
>or that there are more running around.
Then you can't read, because 4 lines down it says that the kobolds on the right back away to get their crossbows ready.

>>35131831
I'm fine with summoning valkyria against the boss while fireballing the minions.

>>35131920
>or that there are more running around
>>35131600
>You erect a wall on the left, cutting off 6 kobolds.
>As the next round starts, the kobolds on the right try to run away from the bear and the dwarven summon, then shoot at them

I'll stop being an asshole when you can stop being a fucking piece of shit, idiot.

>>35132016
This sounds fine, honestly I don't know why the summon isn't already out. If ya got it, flaunt it.

>>35132053
Chill man, just a game. No need to get so worked up.

>>35132012
eh missed it..don't fuction to weel off 2 hours of sleep.
>>35132053
stop getting so butt hurt over a small issue.

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>>35131976
yes
>>35131977
obviously

You summon a valkyrie and order her against the minions.

"Oooh, she's pretty, nya!"
"D-dont say that!" ~shouts a blushing Lyann
"Ooooh, nya!" ~cooes Miiyau

It takes a couple of rounds before the minions are taken care of on the right.

Since they cant get over the wall, you all send your summons to help Grummir

Ardkill heals Grummir
Miiyau summons another bear

What do you want to do
*Summon another valkyria
* Water+wind ball the kobolds on the left?
*Other

>>35132116
>*Summon another valkyria

>>35132116
>* Water+wind ball the kobolds on the left?
>*Other
Have Lyann try to steal from the boss while it's distracted.

>>35132116
AoE earth spikes on the kobolds on the left

>>35132116
>*Summon another valkyria

How responsive are valkyria? do they move on their own or do we have to mentally direct them?

We change their appearance, but can we direct how their body moves? Do they get their fighting skill from us?

>>35132199
They're reisstant to earth.

>>35132192
This. Get her thieving on now that most of the party is focused on the boss it probably won't last much longer.

>>35132199
But kobolds are strong against Earth magic.

>>35131831
>The Kobold is weak to wood and strong vs earth

>>35132192

This.

Want to see what happens when he goes to fire his missing z-bow

>>35132230
>>35132234
damit i forgot about that how bout fire pillars

>>35132116
>*Summon another valkyria

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>>35132163
>>35132225
You need to command them when theres multiple targets or they will just default to the closest one. Yes, but it is based on our wisdom and divine skill. Right now the valkyrie has +10 weapons skills. We should assign it a trick when we have time and have experimented more with her
>>35132261

summon+++
>>35132192
>>35132199
>>35132252

AoE +++
>>35132230

change lyann to thief for a bit ++

Its tied between summon and AoE, and its not really that big a difference. Why not throw a valkyria at the kobolds over the wall? when she or they are dead you can make another decision

>>35132388
sure

>>35132388
I'm more concerned with changing Lyann to Thief and Stealing the Giant Crossbow from the boss.

Throwing a summon at the kobolds behind the wall is fine, so long as we steal that crossbow.

>>35132388
>Yes, but it is based on our wisdom and divine skill. Right now the valkyrie has +10 weapons skills.
I was more wondering if we could make them do a specific martial arts move at the correct moment, or make them march in step, or give them a different facial expression.

The impression i'm getting is that they get directives from eldric, but the details of how they move are handled by whatever proto-sentience or magical programming they have. They also wouldn't really seem to react to anything, so they wouldn't do a victory pose unless directed, and might not get it right unless we handle all the details.

...actually
>when the fight is over make sure the valkyria do a victory pose.
>make sure lyann can see it.

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>>35132510
You are evil fun and I like you

>>35132453
Alright, someone roll- We need a 32 or more. We'll go with the best of 3 rolls

You summon another valkyrie directly on top of the kobolds. She lands and starts attacking.

The bug swarm is everywhere, biting and scratching at the kobolds while the glowing valkyria stabs at them and they are locked in with her behind a thick stone wall.

This is what kobold hell is actually like.

Meanwhile, Grummir has been knocked away by the kobold's boss huge bolt. Ardkill is healing him while Miiyau refreshes her swarm spell

We shoot a large hybrid arrow at the kobold while the summons hold it back

Lyann gets in position behind it and....

roll 1d100. Need 37+

Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>35132560

>>35132578
lol nice

Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>35132560
May as well roll.

Rolled 78 (1d100)

>>35132560

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Oh, finally caught the thread while it's going on.

I found that this quest was better at the start when there was more narrative focus. Lately it seems that the quest is all numbers, meta min/maxing and system discussion. It's okay, I guess, if the players like it but personally I care little for all of that and simply want the story. It's my preference though, I understand there are people who like that sort of thing.


That said, this quest reminds me of a new manga that I read. The premise is very similar: a guy dies in his modern-ish world and gets reborn in a typical fantasy world.
http://mangapark.com/manga/re-monster

Check it out, it's very entertaining.

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>>35132560
Actually need a 35+ I cant see the keys right, sorry

>>35132578
that will do

Lyann steals the boss' giant crossbow and runs away back to our side as she stores it away in her item box

"BWAHAHAHAHA!" ~Grimmir laughs as the boss just starts swiping its empty hands at the summons and they stab, slash and maul it to death

It is no longer a fight after that point

After the kobolds are over, the Valkyries ram their spears into the ground and spin around it to do a victory pose/pole dance before returning to neutral

"S-somehow, that's just so much more embarrasing, Eldric you idiot!" ~she says while she's apple-red
"I thought it was funnya, nya! If we get you a spear, will you dance like that, nya?"
"Y-you meanies!"
"There there, stop teasing the girl."

You get
x12 [Fine Kobold Pepper]
x1 [Kobold Card]
x1 [Old Blue Box]

roll 1d1000 to see whats inside the box. We will use the best of 4 rolls

Rolled 561 (1d1000)

>>35132683

Rolled 702 (1d1000)

>>35132683

Rolled 116 (1d1000)

>>35132683
Why is it now high rolls are better?

>>35132718
lower rolls are better for this.

>>35132718
no low i fucked up (702) was mine

>>35132510
We must make the summon do this, embarrassed Lyann is cute and I want to see more of it.

>>35132665
I'm thinking the narrative will kick in once we hit adolescence. Usually when that shit happens. Whole teen main character hero-savior shtick.

Hell, in the Ranceverse it's codified into the system. Get it when you're 13, lose it when you're 20.

Rolled 85 (1d1000)

>>35132683
We need 1 more

>>35132750
HOLY SHITY

>>35132750
i think i love you

>>35132665
>the quest is all numbers, meta min/maxing and system discussion
The meta min/maxing is a fundamental part of this game. If you don't like it, then this not the quest for you.

>>35132665
>http://mangapark.com/manga/re-monster
Rou is all about min/maxing..

>>35132665
>I found that this quest was better at the start when there was more narrative focus. Lately it seems that the quest is all numbers

I agree with you, but the guys insist on wanting to go day by day each time I ask them if I can skip a bit

thanks for the link

aaaand im finally back. Lost internet for a bit

>>35132958
It's player instinct. We *know* that shit's gonna get real at some point and thus, we like our prep. Wanna be ready for when the plot comes trucking in.

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You look at the old box and open it up...

It contains a [Fine Steel Greatsword]

It is a 2 handed weapon that does 50 damage (+str bonus) and has 3 empty slots
It is worth 5g

"I... what, nya?"
"What is it?" ~asks Lyann
"If it had that, why didin't it use it, nya?"
"I dont know how that works"

Lyann looks at you waiting an explanation

"Erhh... the gods decide on the reward at the moment you open the box, before that, it is like schrodinger's cat"
"Who's kitty, nya?"
"Ah, wait let me think how to explain this... before we actually open the box, it is every item in the world at the same time, but by opening the box it becomes one for good"
"Frikkin gods are keeping everything else, then!?" ~says Grummir
"No, no... nevermind"
"Well, can we go back for today? the fights havent been tough, but mana has still been spent" ~says Ardkill
"Fine with me"
"Yes, please, nya!"
"Well, looks like its majority, then"

You teleport out of the dungeon, and reappear in the academy's grounds.

"Uhmm... I guess we still need to wait 2 days so you guys can get your spirits back, right?" says grummir
"Yes, thats about right"
"Well, I'll take this stuff to the auction house and give you all your part of the gold when we meet again, then"
"Fine with me" ~Ardkill is more interested in checking the university's library

1/2

>>35133114
what happened to all the goods from the last time we went in? all the ingots and shit we got off fighting the armors.

>>35133114
I'm fine with skipping ahead.
I'd just like to know that we can get some decent cards to enchant the wildflower crown and lyann's bracelet.

>>35132848
Yeah, I know that, I'm not exactly complaining about the min/maxing. For example, I liked the soap business idea. I just dislike the lot of numbers that get thrown around or the farming dungeon runs which when reading feel like a boring MMO grind. They distract from the story, especially when archive binging.

I like the premise of the quest though, it's quite interesting.

>>35133195
We're playing a person who's mature enough to understand the necessity of preparation and working long hours for greater rewards, and he can see that objective improvements that such grinding gives out.

On top of that, he knows that there's a war going on that he needs to have his family prepared for.

It would be reckless and stupid to NOT grind and farm the dungeons.

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>>35133144
Grummir placed them on the AH
>>35133175
weren't they anklecuffs?
>>35133114

"Lyann, are you alright?" ~you hold her hand while walking home together
"Yes, I wasn't hurt at any time"
"But are you alright?"
"Ah... yes, it was really scary at first, but I am happy I could be useful today." ~she says softly, blushing sligthly as she looks down
"You were very useful. Thanks"

She looks happy and embarrased

Looking at her "sheet", you notice that she went up 2 levels as dancer, and 2 levels as thief, as well as 2 levels as slave.

She now has 6 more bonus points.
Bonus points, eh?
Perhaps you should help her with that.

Elli: "Oh... so those are permanent?" ~says Elli looking at Lyann's anklets~ "I think they're gorgeous, but your mom may have a different idea."
"I know. I'll have to explain them to her when she comes home. Oh, but first, Lyann, can we go outside? I want to try something!"
"Sure"

You sit with Lyann on the summoning platform, and bring up her sheet again.

Looking at her available jobs, you see "Seducer"

Seducer, uh? well, your Lyann is very cute, and she will surely be seductive in a few years... it looks like a good class.

*Change her class to Seducer
*Spend her bonus points (40)
*Spend your own bonus points

>>35133195
Yeah we need to get working on other ventures as well. Hypoallergenic cosmetics, baking soda, carbonated drinks, champagne, stuff like that. Do well by doing good.

Doubt we're gonna go evil but if we did, we could get mad bucks by flooding the world with glass no, not window glass if ya catch my drift.

>>35133228
Sounds cool but isn't a courtesan basically the same thing? I mean, they were supposed to be quite seductive. Is the seducer class the magic/dance hybrid?

>>35133228
>Why not all three?
Go in order

>>35133228
Just as a note guys we enchanter?
But it's still not in the system. I assume she would be a specialized character like blacksmith? I wouldn't mind letting her focus on enchanter outside of dungeons.

*Spend her bonus points (40)
*Spend your own bonus points
I am up for messing around with points.
I personally don't care how she turns out so long as she is use full. In the long run.

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>>35133228
This is her current stats, minus the Seducer stats, updating the +2 slave, +2 thief and +2 dancer levels

65 Str
155 Dex
84 Con
70 Int
126 Wis
16 Cha
95 App

846 HP
189 MP
PDV 64 // MDV 61
Armor 12 / SR 26

11 Elemental


34(+7) Melee Weapons
8 Ranged Weapons

Armor Proficiencies: None
Item Box: 33 slots
Bonus Points: 40

>>35133228
>*Change her class to Seducer
yes
>*Spend her bonus points (40)
spend enough on elemental spell tricks that she can gain 'harvester'.
Spend the remainder based on what she thinks is best.

>*Spend your own bonus points
16 elemental magic(+2spell tricks)
9 divine magic(spell trick)
4 1h weapon(weapon trick)
34 intelligence

>discuss cursed items to mom
They can be removed at a temple, we won't abuse it, the enhancement can help keep her alive.
Bring up the the possibility of life extension through use of cursed item. Not like she's intending to have more kids until dad comes back.

If she demands we remove it, then do so

>>35133301
Seducer, according to King's first post of the thread uses App for bonuses. She has insane App

>>35133228
Lyann's Current Stats after Level up Bonuses:
Str 65
Dex 141
Con 82
Int 66
Wis 126
Cha 16
App 90
HP 719
MP 189

Change class to Seducer.
Spend:
10 points - Elemental
Elemental Trick - Harvester
10 point - App
4pt - Wis
14pt - Int
6 - Melee Weapon

>>35133328
>4 1h weapon(weapon trick)
I am fine with everything but this.
we gain 1 from noble and 1 from paladin. each time.
and we're already darn close.

what do you think of spell tricks?
Divine - I'd push iit into power summon.
Elemental - 2 into blast get the most damage out of our mana.

>>35133228
>>35133370
*Our own bonus points
How many levels did we gain this run?
That will affect how to distribute points.

>>35133314

>>35133328
>16 elemental magic(+2spell tricks)
>9 divine magic(spell trick)
>4 1h weapon(weapon trick)
>34 intelligence

weapon trick, spellbreaker
elemental trick, chain +elemental mastery (metal)
divine trick, hivemind (for those times when we don't have line of sight to cast spells)

>>35133301
>>35133332
Seducer allows for the use of Wizard spells as well as Dances.

Courtesan allows for Stealing not just Armor and Weapons but also Accessories, and using Dances at the same time.

>>35133301
>>35133332

yes

Courtesan is dancer + thief. Adds exhaustion dances, hp drain, and can steal accesories

Seducer is dancer + wizard, it adds very expensive debuff (stop status), and deals a lot more damage.

Anyway notice that she can have 4 total weapon tricks, so need to pick one more.

We can use points on elemental to give her more spell tricks... and funny enough, she has access to stronger spells than we do.

>>35133328
>>35133332
>>35133370

Seducer +++
+9/10 Elemental so she can get "Harvester" ++

+16 Raise our elemental+
+9 divine +
+4 melee weapons+
+34 int (+4 damage and attack rolls with spells) +

I think everyone agrees with spending some of her points to get her another elemental trick, get her seducer, and raise her app?

As for our own points, I think getting one more spell trick is something everyone agrees for now

>>35133391
Sadly none. We are basically level 50 while shes level 12, of course she's gonna get more out of killing little lvl 1-6 things

>>35133381
>what do you think of spell tricks?
>Divine - I'd push iit into power summon.
I think we already have power summon as our first spell trick.

>>35133428
nah im with >>35133381
get alot of damage out there.

>>35133481
it stacks

>>35133428
Seconding this.

>>35133478
>another elemental trick, get her seducer, and raise her app?
I'm assuming we asked and she said she wanted to use the spare points for app? Then fine, after the spell trick.

>>35133478
>Sadly none. We are basically level 50 while shes level 12,
Can we give our spare items to lyann and turn ranger off?

>>35133498
Yeah let's do this or change one with a cascade. We can hit more enemies harder and more efficient

>>35133478
If we switch to a single job while power leveling her would we gain a significant boost in xp earned for ourselves? It may be more efficient to grind out single jobs for a while if that is the case.

I guess what I'm asking is if our total amount of jobs effect how slow our active job levels or if it's just based on our active Job and Class levels.

>>35133588
It gets divided evenly.
We have scion so we get +50% to exp.
So of the 150% of the exp we get if we have 5 jobs active they each get 30% each kill.

>>35133533
sure

Alright, let me see... except for the +34 to intelligence it seems everyone agrees to the following

93 str
162 dex
112 con
85 int
192 wis
54 cha
31 app

1090 HP
293 MP

PDV 66/MDV 69
Armor 41/SR 19

+14+16 Elemental
+11+9 Divine

+46 Melee Weapons
+26 Ranged Weapons

Item Box 10 slots
armor prof: L, M. H
weapon tricks Off & Def
bonus poInts 38

Interestingly, we have 11 ranks in divine so we can tap the summons for more juice.
Instead of having 200hp, they can have 400hp... 600 now with power summon x2, and +57 to attack and damage instead of +19, with 57 armor and SR instead of 19...so... much tankier and harder hitting.

Just saying, but if we used 8 points on wisdom, we would recover +8MP per night, and out summons would get +3 to attack, damage, armor and spell resistance.

And with Blast x3 now our AoE spells are doing the SAME damage as single targets spells, basically 3 damage per point of mana spent

Also, notice we can use really good healing spells now, up to 40 mana per healing spell to heal about 200 points (at least until we get used to using them and then it goes down to 20/100)

>>35133588
The black ball says "yes"
and again yes.

>>35133588
For grinding certain Jobs to meet certain requirements, turning off other jobs does make things faster.

We can do that on off days because we can get MP back much faster than others because of our sword.

>>35133666
let's do
+8 wisdom
+6 charisma (another % damage reduction)
+20 intelligence

>>35133723
how about we do + 25 int
+6 Chrisma
and rest of our points into wisdom

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>>35133723
Lyann, 12yrs Base Human
On:, lvl 18 slave, lvl 1 Seducer,
Off: lvl 10 wizard, lvl 7 villager, lvl 3 thief, 13 dancer
65 Str
159 Dex
86 Con
74 Int
126 Wis
16 Cha
130 App

846 HP
189 MP
PDV 77 // MDV 74
Armor 12 / SR 26

12+8 Elemental


34(+7) Melee Weapons
8 Ranged Weapons

Armor Proficiencies: None
Item Box: 33 slots
Bonus Points: 3
Elemental Spell Tricks: Harvester, Soul collector, +1

Lyann gets +1 elemental spell trick, what do you guys want? she already has harvester and soul collector

Is everyone alright with >>35133723

>>35133228

*Change her class to Seducer

I'd vote all of these, but I am way too tired to know what and how to minmax right now. I'd completely fuck it up.

>>35133765
Yes.

>>35133765
>34(+7) Melee Weapons
I don't mind what you guys do with her..But I don't really see lyann as an up close and personal. I see her as a dancer and other support classes. Possibly a wizard if you guys want her to go that route again.

>>35133765
>Lyann gets +1 elemental spell trick, what do you guys want?
Cascade.

And seconding >>35133723
+8 wisdom
+6 charisma (another % damage reduction)
+20 intelligence

>>35133765
ah, siregard that about +1 spell trick. Myeyes played me a trick for a moment there

Anyway, the only thing we are missing still is between
>>35133723
and
>>35133757

both agree on +6 charisma, so raising that for now.

>>35133765
Yeah that sounds good, I'm hesitant to spend all of our remaining bonus points right now but that breakdown seems good. We should also see if we have an easier time studying after increasing INT, just to see what sort of correlation it has on non combat or magic based activities. See if we have a noticeable difference in doing calculations in our head and such.

>>35133803
Her Dancer and Thief Jobs were only supposed to tide her over until we got good enough equipment that she could go Mamluk.

This was the plan from the beginning and there's no need to change the plan now.

>>35133800
>>35133795
Just saying I think it'd be better to just take the 7 points, and to the extra 3 points we have and add another soul collector.
make it so she gains +4 more mana again. And we will be getting to a good golem that much faster once we hit alchemist.

>>35133765
>Is everyone alright with >>35133723 (You)
I'm fine with that point spread

>>35133833
>>35133825
K before we put it in. Do you guys have any particular trick you want her to learn?
>Swipe seems good. and leads us into wind blade.

>>35133878
>>>35133765
>>Is everyone alright with >>35133723 (You)
>I'm fine with that point spread
Not another vote, just confirming since it sounded like you were asking for a second vote.

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>>35133833
Funny enough, right now she has the best evasive stats of everyone in the party

***
Anyway, looks like we are fine with that, and im going to type more narrative now

>>35133819
+8 wisdom
+20 intelligence

Especially because 7 points into Wis, which is what >>35133757 advocates, is 1 point short of getting the +8MP bonus, and therefore really just a waste.

>>35133913
>>35133878
can't deal with
int - 25
Charisma - 6
Wisdom - 7 ?
I think this is pretty nice for now.

>>35133937
>can't deal with
>int - 25
>Charisma - 6
>Wisdom - 7 ?
I thought we didn't actually have that many points

I would like to get 8 points into wisdom though.

>>35133962
I am pretty sure we have the points. Because I don't think we used any points into melee. so It would be enough for
Int- 24
and
Wis- 8

BTW how would you guys feel about doing another time skip for new. We've set up a passive business.
We can set it up that on our off days we team up with Lyann going into the dungeon.
We basically have a tank with our summon. so that shouldn't be an issue and we're still at lower ranks. and only two of us I think with a 1 year time skip she will have gained a decent level especially with us doing dungeons out side of our normal party. so exp would be a huge gain. * instead of 1/5 to each of us* it would be 1/2 for lyann and us.
But we would possible get through even the lower levels if we're lucky 1 dungeon level a week.

>>35133988
as long as we get
+6 cha
+8 wis

then i'm fine with putting the rest in intelligence.

>>35134061
>BTW how would you guys feel about doing another time skip for new.
I'm fine with a time skip, but I want to make sure that our 6 slot items get as well enchanted as we can make them.

I'd also be wary of going with just the two of us. Alot of those creatures travel in mobs.

>>35134061
And how do we do loot, special rares and cards that get dropped?

>>35134061
We need to get more side businesses. More money, expand operations, take over this shit.

>>35134082
I am thinking with our new increase in blast. Our fireballs do as much damage as single target spells.
If she is slowing them. We can position our self very well. As well as the extra hand that we have being he Valkyrie I know we won't be soloing dungeons past a certain point. but even getting to level 15 and killing things there in a party of two we should be destroying shit. and getting a lot of gear.* helps that she is a slave*

>>35134138
I wouldn't mind doing low level floors like that to see how it works out.

>>35134117
we would get them like usual..we roll. or OP can roll.

But only problem I see with this would be team mates wanting gear/money.
But everything thats just normal armor with less than 4 slots I wouldn't mind the dwarf selling and cards.
With the money coming in. We could offset that problem. And if we don't want it have him take it to auction. Or best thing to also do would be save all our shit and have Eli sell all of our stuff with the soaps. Being the 30% merching skill she has.

>>35134082
>6 slot items get as well enchanted as we can make them.
talking about that no one wants to add any of the cards that we have now to it?

x2 Snake Card -- Weapon Only. (doesn't stack) +5% chance per attack to inflict [Poison] on the enemy. +50 STR 20g
1x [Marina Card] -- weapon only. +5% chance to inflict [Frozen] on hit. Frozen enemies cannot escape, they are slowed, and their defenses are lowered. 12g
x1 [Kavach Icarus] +10% chance to escape from any combat. If this is the first card on any gear, it adds +10 PDV and MDV, as well as +10% chance to escape from any combat. 20g
2x [Man Eating Plant] Weapon Only - You heal +10 HP on hit. 20g
2x [Ghost] Weapon Only - You heal +10 MP on hit. 20g
x1 Vanberk Card - Helmet only - +20 STR. Every attack has a +5% chance to grant +100% chance to critical for 2 rounds. 100g
Incubus Card.
INT -30, Max MP +150 and MP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced with the Succubus card,
it adds Int +70 and MP natural recovery +300%.

Succubus Card.
CON -30, Max HP +1000 and HP natural recovery -20%.
If the user is equipped with an item enhanced by the Inccubus card,
it adds CON +40 and HP natural recovery +30%.

I'd be intrested in getting the last two paired.
+30 con
+70 int
+ 300% MP recovery
+30% hp recovery
pretty nice.
and with the other 5 slots on head I'd be interested in putting on some things that help our wizard side.

should we tell our party about our power?

bonus point are really good

>>35134370
>talking about that no one wants to add any of the cards that we have now to it?
I'd like to wear the fedora with an incubus card and put a succubus card in our second armor slot.

i'm not to focused on what specific cards we use as long as we give her good defensive enchantments.

>>35134426
>>talking about that no one wants to add any of the cards that we have now to it?
I had to reread that sentence...apparently punctuation did not exist when I wrote that. Need to start reading what I type before pressing enter.
>>35134426
The fedora did have a slot. heh I wouldn't mind so long as we don't get shit for wearing it from Eli/Lyann/mom

>>35134426
Except that the Fedora is pretty much low-level trash, and we'd be replacing it pretty quickly.
Using the Kobold card on the second Armor Slot, and getting a better helmet to use the Succubus and Incubus cards, with a Kobold card, would be much better.

As for the Crown, it should have an Incubus and Succubus, Kobold for both. That will boost its value and usefulness tremendously.

Get insert a Kobold Card in the Spear and see what it can get sold for, in order to pay the party for the Crown.

>>35134512
>Get insert a Kobold Card in the Spear and see what it can get sold for, in order to pay the party for the Crown
yes if thats what we're missing.
>As for the Crown, it should have an Incubus and Succubus, Kobold for both. That will boost its value and usefulness tremendously.
one of the two cards I think is a helmet only and the other is an armor only, I think.
that would be intresting to see a kobold mixed with them. But I don't think it would effect the SET effect. But it would be crazy awesome if it did.

"Lyann, I'm going to spend your bonus points, alright?"
~she nods~ "These are ..uhmm...these will normally go to waste, right?"
"Right... I don't think anyone else can use them"
"Then no matter what, this is a good thing, right?"
"Well... yes"
"Alright"
"What do you want me to do with them?"
"Well, from what you've explained me..."

You raise her dexterity (just the tinniest little bit) and appearance... interestingly enough, she ends with the highest defenses you've seen, at least for what is dodging enemy attacks.

"Alright, and I'm going to change your job"
"Okay" ~she seems alright with whatever you want
"So now you're a seducer"
"I'm what!?" -she blushes brightly
"It's just the name of your new job. But yes, my Lyann is very seductive. I'm seduced."
"Eldric!" ~she blushes bright red, and you are sure that if you could embarras her a little bit more, you could see steam come out of her head.

Why not? this is a magical world, right? maybe it could happen.

"So, now you have to practice. So, seduce me!"

She stares at you
Her eyes are really beautiful, bright pools of blue
It's really seductive. Yup, it's working
She's not trying to, however. she's just staring, and blushing

" Eldric, you're mean!" ~she pouts a little bit
"Ah! I'm joking! you're my cute Lyann! yup! Lyann is cute, she's not seductive at all!"

She makes a very complicated expression, now.
She's not sure if she should be happy, angry or embarrased

You can't help but to tease her for a little longer, but eventually let her rest.

You did it.
There's smoke coming out from her ears
It's hard to see, but you can see a little heatwave coming off if you pay enough attention
You feel like you really accomplished something

1/??

>>35134605
Well, that was really fun
You know you were kind of mean to your cute slavegirl
But it was a very playful kind of mean, it's good

She's laying down on her back with her ankles at the sides of her hips, completely dizzy out of sheer embarrasment, bright red and throwing smoke out of her ears

“Lyann”
No response
“Lyann. Let's try and practice magic some, alright?”
“Uh~~~” ~there's life in that response, however little
“C'mon, get up and let's practice magic together.”

“What happened?” ~asks Elli when she comes out with juice and cookies
“Ah... I teased Lyann too much”
“Young master!” ~she sighs~ “Lyann, you can't just lie on your back with your legs like that, are you trying to seduce the young master?”

She bolts upright.
She's kneeling and sitting upright in a second, hands holding her skirt down on her knees while she is apple red

“Elli, you heard all that!?” ~Lyann says as if she's about to cry
“Of course” ~she wiggles her elfie ears~
“You're terrible, too!”

We calm her down together, for a bit
Then we are all three standing together and sipping melon juice

2/?

>>35134424
No.

>>35134605

She may be a seducer but I doubt she'll ever be a seducer

>>35134582
>helmet only
that is meant for head gear, not specifically a helmet. You can put it on googles or a fedora if you want. Sorry I will try to speak of armor slots instead of piecesin the future

***
“We're all out of melon” ~says Elli
“I'll go buy more tomorrow”
“Alright”

“Lyann”
“Uhmm?” ~she says while siping melon juice
“Can we practice magic now?”
“Alright”

As it turns out, Lyann's 11 ranks on Elemental mean that she can cast 2 flame arrows at the same time, now.
Or two stone arrows.

We practice for a fair bit until we can summon 2 fire arrows now.
So... two, uh? That really ought to make battles faster.

We could probably clean the first few floors on our own now, if she had some way to recover mana.
Well, now that she has those spell tricks, it should be fine as long as she has her own mana crystal.

I need to buy another tomorrow.
The way I understand it, if she can kill 2 or 3 zenites with a single fireball, she is paying 10 points and gaining 15
So she can cast it forever, as long as she kills them on the first go.

It will be better if I get her a staff with a ghost card.
I should probably try and do so as soon as I can.

Well, I was wondering just how would attributes affect us, but she looks really beautiful, now.
She has that movie heroine effect where the wind plays with her hair in just the right way and all

>>35134678

do you have reason why we shouldn't?

>>35134712
I have a lot of strenght now. This body is really amazing.
I feel like I could easily carry both Elli and Lyann and the couch in the living room, or both of them sitting in the couch

In fact, I dont remember the last time I thought “this is heavy” or “i'm really tired”
This world is really a blessing, in that sense

Well, now I have something much more important to worry about.
Mom is going to come home tonight, and Im going to have to explain to her why my sister is wearing shackles.
Well, the truth is, they keep her healthy, and safe, when we go into the dungeon.
That is the truth, they are really high quality, very strong defensive items

And while I was thinking like that, mom came home
She greets us both with a smooch and a hug
Mom is really nice
In my last life, my mom passed away when I was very young, so... she's the only mom I've ever known
I love her a lot

I could mention it over dinner, but I dont want to ruin dinner
Mentioning it after dinner is also right out
So I'll tell her about it right now
Of course I could also wait until she finds out on her own but... just no

4/?

>>35134715
You mean besides the common sense of not waving our Gods-given gift which the Temples have a monopoly of around?

>>35134715
Because we shouldn't be sharing out information like that.

Even if we can "trust" them. You never know when a drunk dwarf is going to run his mouth. Or if we end up on bad terms/ some one kidnaps him and gets information.
hence the less people know the better.

>>35134751
>>35134787

alright makes sense

how about using their bonus points without telling them?

>>35134731
“Mom”
“Yes, love?”
“Lyann and I are going into the dungeon under the school this year”
“Ah... that is true... your class has permission now. I'm hoping to go with you the first few times.”
“Actually... I've already gone with some friends. Lyann came along, too.”

I can see the color leaving her face.
She's worried. She's really worried
So this is what mom looks like when she's scared
I want to shout “I'm okay! I'm right here!” and tell her that low level mobs like those are no big deal for any of us, but I think that's not a good idea

Well, she was too scared to get angry.
That wasn't what I wanted, but I can't complain
She went upstairs and came back with Lyann, and gave lyann 10 gold coins

5/??

>>35134866
“Lyann, listen. Your brother told me you went into the dungeon today”
“Yes... mom”
“And that you have an adventuring party?”
“Y-yes”
“And about those shackles you let him place on you”
“It- it wasn't like that! I want to be useful, so-- !”
“Listen, if you two are really going to go into the school dungeon, I understand you need every bit of help. These are to pay a priest if you ever want those off, understood?”
“Ah... yes mom”
“Any time you want them off, you just tell me, and I'll take you to the temple myself, alright?”
“Alright”
“Now, I'm going to do something I had never done. I'm going to bend Eldric over my knee, and I'm going to spank him. And when I'm done, I'm going to spank you, too. And neither one of you is going out tomorrow. You are both staying on your room.”
“...y-yes mom”
“And the day after that, you” ~she looks at us~ “Are going to introduce me to this party of yours. And I'm going to tag along, because I want to see how good they are.”
“R-right!”

6/6

>>35134829
I don't have a problem with that.

I think im wrong and im to lazy to check.
But we could make him a better blacksmith/artisan by increasing his stats and that would also make sure he never misses in battle of at least a lot more accurate.
and we could give the druid a nice big 'ol power up but increasing Divine power and giving her power summon with her points. and her summons will be stronger than most of the players..

>>35134891
Spanking isn't going to do anything.
We're still going to go as deep into the dungeons as we can in order to level.

>>35134891
>And I'm going to tag along, because I want to see how good they are.”
she's going to teell the party they've been partying with a 9 year old boy and an 11 year old girl.
And it should be priceless considering they bring a lot to the table.

>>35134712
>Sell fedora, get goggles or anything else

>>35134891
>“And the day after that, you” ~she looks at us~ “Are going to introduce me to this party of yours. And I'm going to tag along, because I want to see how good they are.”
Ah crap

>>35134891

Well, my ass hurts today
I got spanked
I guess this is what you call the rod of love
My ass really hurts

So I'm just lying on top of the bed
On my stomach

Lyann seems better off than me.
I think mom hit her just as hard, but apparently she was hit a couple of times when she got back late at the barracks after playing with me in the past

I bet grown soldiers can spank a lot harder than mom

Well, its all good. Mom seemed in a good mood today, and she gave us each a kiss as she went out

Since arriving into town, I had never skipped school, not even once.
I hope I don't grow up into a truant

I wonder if I should plan something out for tomorrow
Probably not. I've never actually lied to them, and I've already lied to mom enough by not telling her about the guys before, so... whatever happens, happens, I guess

I wonder what I should do today

* Practice magic
* Practice fencing
* Study
* Other

>>35134891
We deserve this for making her worry

>>35135017
>Practice fencing
or
>Study

>>35134891
Endure. In Enduring, grow strong.

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>>35134891
Damn, we got grounded. And she wants to meet our party!?

Awww fuck this is bad. We gotta get to them before mommy does and tell them to keep quiet about the other dungeoning we've done together. They're going to find out about the age problem, but if mommy finds out we've been dungeoning behind her back she may well place a cursed magical tracking bug on us, or worse, a command seal type item and say "I order you not to keep secrets from me".

Shit, we had a good racket going and now the "feds" bust it up. Damn it.

>>35135017
>* Practice magic
Fire+wind

>>35135017
>* Practice magic
Enchanting.

>>35135017
>* Practice fencing
Change Lyann's Job to Mamluk, and practice fencing with her.

>>35135113
Which kind? South or North style?
And remember that the more we do of one, the less we can do of the other.

>>35135114
>>35135061
fencing++
>>35135113
>>35135088
magic++

Well, mom said not to leave the room, but surely the garden is okay.

I'm sure meant for us to not go adventuring without her.

Still, when I open the door, I find our cat sitting outside on a chair
It is looking at us with a very attentice expression

It's a guard
Yup, I'm sure it's a guard.

Our kitten has betrayed us and gone over to the other side
Mom must have made it into her familiar or something

So I close the door and go back into the room.
Opening the window... well, it's a second floor. I'm confident on this body. I'm sure I can jump from a second floor.
But then how do I climb back up?

* Jump down
* Start throwing spells out the window to practice
* Study
* Ask Elli for help

>>35135139
We only know south style until the next year start.

We also know the restriction is a mental block. People chant for spells because they think they have to. They summon steam because they think steam is an element instead of just heating water with fire.

I expect, that once we become familiar with the basic principles of both. We'll just be practicing 'enchantment' without the same restrictions because we don't have the same mental blocks.

>>35135223
>Apologize to Elli
>* Study

>>35134958
Pretty sure they know we're children already, not like it was something we can hide.

>>35135223
>Study
>Ask Elli to get books for us
Now's our chance to learn more about the world.
Check for stories and legends about people that could use more than one Job at a time.
How did the whole Job-Temple thing get started?
Study Northern Enchanting with Cards and Slots.

Those kinds of things.

>>35135223
>* Study
>*play with the cat and give it bellyrubs. We will subvert it's loyalty to us.

>>35135223
>Study
>Ask Elli to get books for us(northern enchantment)

>>35135275
>>35135223
Yeaaah, she kind of really deserves an apology

>>35135275
>>35135287
>>35135302
>>35135324

Elli+++
Study++++

Well, it seems rather clear that you guys want to call for Elli and to study som im typing that

>>35135352
Elli deserves an apology, and Lyann deserves one.
The former we made keep a secret, and the latter got dragged into our punishment.

>>35135275
>>35135352
>apologizing Elli
I think you mean Lyann.
And I agree.