>>34184617

Keep marching her towards the keep, making sure that she can't catch us with a quick lashing out strike. I want to see if Adelle has something she can do to more permanently control this thing.

>>34184617
Adelle should be here, so first thing is to bring Patina before Adelle.
We should ask Adelle to make another map for the mine foreman, so that he can tell miners which shafts are to be closed as too dangerous, and which way to go for more copper veins, but that can be later.

Right now, we have a copper elemental for Adelle to examine.

>>34184722

Problem is, probably not a good idea to leave Patina unattended, and there's nobody locally available to send a message to Adelle. So we have to march her up to the base.

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I'd like to note that you guys can "rename" the coppergirl if you don't like Patina. I went with it for the scene because I thought it would work best for something demeaning, which is what the scene's dialogue generally tended towards, but I've avoided referring to her as "Patina" in the narration because I don't want to "railroad" you into it.

>>34185089

Nah man, Patina works great.


And we should break her arms again, just to be sure, and then say it's safe to approach.

>>34185089
Be rough with her, she can handle a few more dints.

>>34185089
Put her on her knees or laying down to be safe.

>>34185089
"I've disabled her arms for now, though she IS still a few hundred pounds of copper ore. Let's get somewhere where you can work in more comfort and we don't get in the way of the miners."

I can't think of an especially better name, so I suppose Patina works for now.

Take her to somewhere secluded, order her to kneel on the ground, and have our hand on our hammer to drive home what will happen to disobedience. Then allow Adelle to examine Patina.

>>34185089
Show it the hammer and ask it if it will be trying anything

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>>34185308
Is it better if I reply to everyone's posts or not?

>>34185602

Ask Adelle to disable everything from the neck down. Want her to work on the mental workings of Patina if she can, or maybe we should just train the coppergirl more classically.


Most importantly, ask Adelle if we can somehow teach Patina to speak. It's really hard to get anything out of her vague body language and nodding or shaking her head.

>>34185602
Now that the mine can be producing again, can Adelle think of any other places that might have books on elementals? Or can she ask a servant or family member closer to the Lestrang library to look through the books for one?

Does Adelle think she could form vocal cords for Patina? Some way that she can speak?
For now, temporarily disabling her arms sounds prudent; just make sure it's not permanent.

>>34185602
Ask her if she can communicate with her

>>34185683
Do we really need her to say anything? All we need her to say is yes.

>>34185749

Why do we need her to say yes? We've already raped her twice.

No, we need her to be able to speak because it's a lot easier to get at what she's thinking if we have more to go on than a slight inclination of her head. I want to have some warning when she inevitably tries to rebel.

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>>34185683
>Want her to work on the mental workings of Patina if she can

See >>34185602
>I have no idea how her mind is set up, or anything of that sort

Adelle's a geomancer, but just because you can closely examine somebody's brain, doesn't mean you know how it works (or even its purpose; ancient Egyptians performed brain removal operations on corpses because they figured it wasn't an important organ).

>>34185713
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>>34185816
Replying to these to ping players. If you want me to stop, I'll stop.

>>34186085

I guess it's time to play question and answer with Patina. Set out that you want a vigorous nod for yes, and a shake from side to side for no.

Ask her if she's willing to behave for us now, or do we have to demonstrate to her again how we're superior?

Then I suppose we better give her come more cum so she can regenerate, and I think it would be good to pair her with Chara for a bit while we come up with chores and other tasks for her to do, maybe even a bit of combat training. And if she flips out and breaks Chara in half, we don't lose anything that important.

>>34186197
>if she flips out and breaks Chara in half, we don't lose anything that important.
>best girl
>not that important
I wish I had some clever way of telling you that that's incredibly wrong.

>>34186085
Ask Patina if she understands now that she is ours. Ask if she will be a problem for us.
Ask if she understands that if she serves us faithfully, that her arms will be allowed to be restored.
And if she works for us loyally, then we will reward her.
Take Adelle and Patina back to the manor.

>>34186085
Well, our cum seems to be affecting her structurally, and she's made of (beaten) copper. Could we speed whatever's happening by giving her more cum, then smelting her somehow? Forming a solid copper-cum alloy? Superheating her and reforging her with larger breasts? These are relevant questions. Probably Adelle has no idea, but voice them anyway.

>>34186085
How far is it back to our parent's manor?

Should we send Adelle there, or just pen a letter to our parents? I don't trust our dad to not try to take the elemental from us if he finds a way to control it in the library.

>>34186085
>Adelle can render her immobile
I say we set her up as a statue in the manor's... courtyard? garden? fountain? Whichever of those we have. That gives us time to sort out what to do with her. And in the meantime we can give her regular refills until this cum business finishes changing her.

So I guess these first.
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>>34186272

I certainly don't mind you replying to posts.

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>>34186382
>How far is it back to our parent's manor?
Less than a day's walk/ride.

>>34186197
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Ping.

>>34186751
Damn Chara, we can't make you into our buttmistress like this.

Not talking to anyone, pass down, pick Chara and others, complaints can come through the elders later.

>>34186751
Goddammit, did Chara misbehave and steal/injure some of the villagers? Are we going to have to take her behind the shed and paddle her?

Go over to the shouting voices and demand to know what's going on.

>>34186751

Order Patina not to attack anyone without your express order and to follow you along. Go over to where all the shouting is coming from and let's see how bad this is.

>>34186751
Strut down the street with the cowed coppergirl in tow. It's both a demonstration of our power and proof that we are capable of supporting this community (we've solved the mine's problem).

Arrive on the scene and say very quietly, but so it carries - like a kind of annoyed, harsh whisper - "What's this about?"

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>>34186823
Well, she's still our property, so they can't just touch her. But now we can't seduce her (ass) tenderly without looking foolish.

>>34187093
I actually think we should take Chara's side. My first reaction was to be like, "We'll reprimand her," but Chara is our servant and we can't have people badmouthing our servants in the street.

Sternly ask the boy for his side of the story, then we can go from there. If the parents try to interrupt, shush them and tell the boy to go on.

>>34187093

I'm very tempted to order Patina to break Chara's neck.

But that probably wouldn't be a good idea. Apologize profusely to the mother, and offer to pay compensation for her son's trouble, and hers. And don't let Chara outside the manor without permission.

>>34187210
Agreed, I think just instantly punishing Chara would send a bad message, making the villagers think they can just come up here and whine about every little beating without us investigating properly.

>>34187215
See, this was my first thought as well, I'm
>>34187210
but I just don't think we can portray ourselves as weak like that in front of what are essentially peasants. I mean, if the kid did do it, he SHOULDN'T have called Chara a slut. She is literally working for us. I don't want to set a precedent of taking the side of villagers over our employees, monstergirls or not. It would be no good if these folks think they can walk all over us or our people - we're the ones in charge.

>>34187093
Woah, wait a minute here.
Insulting and badmouthing our servants is tantamount to insulting their owner, which is us.
And, a freedman can have his way with an unowned Monster, that's his right. But he shouldn't be laying hands on an OWNED Monster, that's the same as vandalism and tarnishing another man's property.

I want the full story. Have Despina take Chara inside, we'll talk to her second. Right now I want to know the full story from the boy, and DO NOT let the mother interfere.

What the boy does to other monsters is his family's problem; what he does to the Baron's property, makes it our problem.

>>34187093
>Beat him up and try to force him to eat her out
I'm actually kinda proud of Chara in this regard, she is following our example.

If it weren't for the fact that the boy was a villager of ours and he was some punk who tried to beat her up and actually made it work, I'd be rooting for her.

>>34187296
They're not peasants, they're freemen. With weapons and armor.

>>34187215
Wait, why are you apologizing when the little shit came onto our property, metaphorically got his grubby fingerprints all over our recently polished wooden cabinets and windows, and is now complaining when our servants hit him around for trespassing and messing with our stuff?

>>34187355
They're freedmen, yes, but that doesn't give their kids the right to go around touching our stuff.
Just as we don't have the right to go into their homes and touch/take THEIR stuff.

>>34187093
>abusing our property
Boy fucked up. 14 is old enough to know not to stir shit up. Specially with the Baron's property. Take him to explain himself, school him about his place.

Chara fucked up, but did it later. She has no station to command freemen. Tell her she'll never do much if she isn't smart. Tie her up (for te family, mostly) and take her away.

>>34187401
This is kind of what I was leaning towards; both sides should be reprimanded. But do it only after hearing everyone out, so that we look like we give a shit, you know?

>>34187341
>>34187401
Yeah, in private I think we should give Chara a stern reprimand AND appraisal for showing some balls and not letting others step on her.

Don't do it again on any of the villagers.

>>34187401
>Chara fucked up, but did it later. She has no station to command freemen.
>>34187440
>Don't do it again on any of the villagers.
Yes, don't force any of the villagers to sexually please her.
But defending herself from their advances when we have not given the okay, that's still to be allowed.
Gotta make that explicit and clear.

>>34187482
>But defending herself from their advances when we have not given the okay, that's still to be allowed.
>Gotta make that explicit and clear.
Definitely this.

Oh, and if Adelle or us can logically prove this kid was being a little shit moving in on Chara and she defended herself, I think we should say Chara was in the right all along.

If we do that, we'll tell him be glad he got away this time, because next time Chara will do more than make him eat her out.

>>34187356

We're not on our property anymore, we're heading through the hamlet. And because right or wrong doesn't matter at this point. She's our monstergirl/slave, and that makes us liable for whatever shit she does.

I don't want the kind of reputation we're going to get if we just arbitrarily take our (shitty) servants side and give a "haha, fuck you peasants" reaction. Tyrants rarely die happily in bed.

>>34187555
On the other hand though, the original cause of this was the woman's son calling Chara a slut. If we fold too easily we make ourselves look weak.

>>34187555
Hey, I agree we shouldn't be arbitrary. We shouldn't arbitrarily take the boy's side or arbitrarily take our servant's side. When we arbit this arbitration, we should do it non-arbitrarily. Don't just sell Chara down the river, but don't give her a free pass either.

Look at this for what it is: two headstrong kids getting into a scuffle. A lot of us did the same thing. They're both at fault for being hot-headed, and we shouldn't pretend that it's any other way.

Did the mom deny the boy insulting Chara's honor? Because if he actually did call her a slut, she was totally in her rights to defend herself.

>>34187624
Also this

>>34187587

You have a point, although, and I guess part of it is based on what the "normal" expectations of the world are, I don't' consider an insult like that grounds for physical retaliation. And that's assuming Chara's side of the story is right, and even what shes' saying doesn't make her look particularly sympathetic.

>>34184617

OP, what are the general laws about these kinds of things, how much responsibility does a nobleman's monstergirl get him in, and what is at least the "expected" response?

>>34187624
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>>34187657
While I agree that we should first learn a little more about what is expected from the setting, also keep in mind that our actions/words will be filtered through the Baron.

People originally wanted him to be a bit of an asshole and a dumb jock, so that's the lens through which our actions go through.

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>>34187639
>Because if he actually did call her a slut, she was totally in her rights to defend herself.
A woman of easy virtue has no honor to defend.

>>34187657
>how much responsibility does a nobleman's monstergirl get him in, and what is at least the "expected" response?
There's no laws or customs on that exact subject, since most noblemen don't keep a harem of monstergirls, and local laws are a weird import/splice deal where it's not really clear what takes precedence (the Nells are foreign conquerors who have mixed somewhat with the natives, like the Normans or Arabs).

For monstergirls in general, if they actually operate in local society, they're ordinarily treated as wards of their "owners" (who may actually be their lovers or "husbands" or whatever), so you're responsible for them in a way similar to how you're responsible for your child. Their lashing out doesn't reflect on you per se (it's accepted that you don't have that much control), but if they're prone to it you're supposed to keep them away from people.

For retainers, you're pretty much directly responsible for whatever they do, and failure to punish them for problematic behavior is basically condoning it.

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>>34187856
Oh boy, looks like we were a fool to ever think Chara was being anything other than a raging dumbass.

>>34187856
"Alright, Chara, what's your version?"
Because I don't believe a single word of that.

>>34187856
Now let's hear Chara's version.

>>34187856
Wow. I mean I totally buy it. We've been getting her mad on anal sex, and there's no way the kid could've known that unless she told him. Still mean to call someone a slut, I suppose, but um, hmm.

Guess we should listen to Chara's version to buy time to consider a response.

>>34187856
Do you have anything to say about this Chara?

>>34187893
I actually do believe the boy, 100%, how else would he even get so much references to anal and anal sex if Chara hadn't blabbed her dumbass mouth.

>>34187856
Have Despina ask Chara. She can discern her sister's bs. But both have to learn their place.

As an aside, if Chara IS feeling a bit neglected, we'll take care of her later.

>>34187856
>What do?
Flogging.

>>34187856
Just how badly beat up is the kid? This will affect how we have to handle this one.

>>34187947
Quite the shame really, I mean, this was perhaps Charas only chance at getting a friend from somebody actually approaching her, approaching a monstergirl even, and around her age nonetheless, and she beat him up and tried to rape him.

>>34188038
I know, and it's actually kind of understandable. She doesn't consider her lewd behavior to be that of a "slut." So from her perspective, he was way out of line. This is a tricky situation.

>>34188064
Hell, might even be natural monstergirl instincts peeking out.

We've been lucky or maybe not that lucky smutwise. . .as Baron not to have been defeated and raped by a monstergirl yet.

>>34188064

Why do we care about Chara's perspective? We need to be breaking her in to our perspective, and if she can't make it, we get rid of her.

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>>34188179
>damage to the extent of kids playing
Yeah, tell the mother to suck it up, Chara is from a different culture, we do apologize for the inconvenience though and we'll handle this.
But lean in close to the boy and tell him not to call our girls sluts.

>>34188179
Tell him to man the fuck up and tell Chara this stuff isnt allowed in society

>>34188179
Yeesh. Tell the boy that it's never okay to call someone's retainer a slut, regardless of how she was acting, but that Chara was definitely in the wrong for attacking him. We'll reprimand her ourself; make a point of saying that her behavior is our responsibility.

Then make a modest concession to ease the hurt. Something to the effect of inviting him/them to dinner. Why? Because it might be hilarious.

>>34188226
It's cute how he wanted to make friends though, shame we're just about finished breaking Chara in.
We should play with her and eat her out once we get back, to make her understand who she can trust and shit.

>>34188226
>>34188253
Yeah, sounds about right. Chara's going to need a little punishing for this, but the kid and his mother are blowing the whole thing way out of proportion.

>>34188226
Also tell the boy if he wants to do more than call them what they are, then he needs to get muscle and get strong like us.

It's a tough world out there

he could grow up to go on his own TAQ one day

>>34188280
I don't know, she /did/ try to rape him. Would it be any different if a boy tried to rape a girl?

>>34188179
Say that we will take care of this, apologize for the inconvenience, but keep it there.
There's not much damage to the boy, and he did start the fight by calling Chara a slut.

Later, we can discipline Chara on the differences between Human and Monster culture.

>>34188309
>Would it be any different if a boy tried to rape a girl?
Yes

>>34188309
>Also tell the boy if he wants to do more than call them what they are, then he needs to get muscle and get strong like us.
Because, really, she is a slut, just like they all are.

>>34188280
Don't be harsh with her, this is basically because we're successful in our education. Just talk about how she isn't allowed to act like this, and have some fun with her to take her mind off things, maybe a little orgasm denial to drive the the point home.

>>34188179

Make an apology to the mother over Chara's behavior, but offer no recompense. Promise to punish Chara when you get back to the manor.

>>34188179
Staying with
>>34187401
Back home we can ask her if she's pent up or something. In private.

>>34188328
Kid got beat up and nearly raped by a girl, that's gonna follow him for a while, and while yes she did call him a slut she was really laying on the lewd.

Still don't call a woman a slut. Also Chara was right about "when you start a fight, make sure you can finish it" because that's what we'd do.

Yeah, there's apologies to be made on our part, but only what's due

>>34188384
Don't think she's pent up, we've been analling her for a while in the timeskip, it's just. . .anal sex is the only type of social interaction with males she knows, apart from robbing or shooting them.

>>34188179
Don't be hard on Chara, show them that she belongs to us. Thank Despina for being sensible with a kind smile, promise a reward.
Chara will get some orgasm denial until she properly understands how to behave, but otherwise we should let her enjoy herself, her day must've been taxing.

>>34188432
>>34188478
Maybe it is time to use that brush and some positive reinforcement.

>>34188432
I guess we could make some time in our day to play/train with her or something, maybe switch up our repertoire (because really, anal only would be pretty boring by now)
>>34188522
Yeah, I'd rather not risk another PTSD monstergirl and get some real attachment going with her, we could be like her reliable father/brother, except we also fuck her.

I want to be clear I am NOT advocating doing this immediately, but I do think that Chara at the moment a liability, and I have some doubts as to whether or not she'll ever not be one.


To me, at the moment, the biggest cost of having Chara killed is that Despina is not going to take it well. If we do have to remove her, do you think we'd be better off making it look like an accident and trying to evade responsibility, or in openly doing so and trying to explain to Despina why it was necessary?

>>34188703
Im totally against killing

>>34188703
Part of the reason why she's a problem is because we never really got around to actually properly training her.

This is all our fault and something we should fix.

>>34188703
>Killing her
yo what, we could just drop her off the side of the road or sell her, why would you want to kill a perfectly usable monstergirl?

>>34188703
Let me say I appreciate your candor in opening this topic for discussion. That said, I don't think we should kill her. Why? Her sex scenes are some of the best, and I'm not even into anal. She may actually be the most interesting girl in the bunch, and it's BECAUSE she's not totally submissive. Remember a few threads ago when someone was pissed that some monstergirls just rolled over and became enslaved by the D? Wish granted. She's the right combination of saucy but not too saucy (as in, not trying to kill us effectively), I like her.

Not that I'm objecting to breaking her in. That's part of the fun.

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>>34188432
To be clear, around these parts it's definitely 110% okay to call a girl a slut if she is one. Chara would be justified in defending her reputation physically *only* if she's not a slut.

>>34188432
You weren't analling her during the timeskip. She's young enough to not get "pent up," though.

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>>34188928
Yeah, we're forgetting the place of monstergirls and whores in this world.

Now to figure out how to tell Chara that she fucked up.

>>34188928
Explain you cant do this in civilzation they have a different set of rules then the wild

>>34188928
You don't have to link posts vertically, Understudy.

>>34188928
I actually think that was handled well. If any of the family go on to make a huge deal out of this, they're probably just the kind of people who make a huge deal out of anything, which means people will be aware of that already. Plus we must be getting points for opening up the rich part of the mine, money talks.

Take them home, ignoring Chara pointedly and talking to Despina and Adelle. See how Adelle feels about how it was handled and what Despina thinks of her sister's behavior. Any time Chara tries to talk, shut her up.

>>34188928
Sit her in our lap, apply the brush everywhere, start explaining things to her until she stops pouting. We really want her to work for us and let her do archery, but she needs to learn.

>>34188928
Take the girls home, pat Chara on the head reassuringly so she's not too afraid, find a place for Patina, have threesome with Satyr sisters.
>orgasm denial with Chara while telling her how to behave, but use positive reinforcement
>gentle sex with Despina, make her enjoy it
>switch back to Chara, be reassuring, don't demand much
>brush her afterwards, have pillow talk

>>34188928
"I'm disappointed in you, Chara. I would have thought that you'd have learned to not fuck things up this badly by now."

I think we should take Chara out back, and talk to her about what behavior is expected of her.

I also think we should get Despina, Juniper, and Chara instruction on how to act in polite society, and what's considered acceptable and not acceptable in Human society.
I don't know if Kini or Adelle would be better for that.
Arenne is already busy with accounting and trying to keep our barony profitable, so I don't want to bother her.

>>34188928

Let's kill 2 birds with one stone. Bring everyone home, and have Patina administer Chara's punishment. Nothing overtly sexual, and don't give her any sex until she's understood what she did wrong, why it was wrong, and promises (convincingly) that she'll behave better.

For her part, make sure Patina doesn't hit her hard enough to break bones or anything, enough to bruise, but not much more.

>>34189194
>and have Patina administer Chara's punishment.
We disabled her arms.
We'd have to let her restore them first, and I don't know if people want her to be combat-capable when she could still rebel.

>>34189101

Kini would probably be better. She's got the outside perspective, but managed to infiltrate human society for long enough to rack up several high profile thefts over a period that I think were years.

So she's probably the best to explain what is and isn't allowed when dealing with humans.

>>34189029
Don't be too harsh to Chara, now is the time to show her how much better we are than others and that she should trust us because we accept her.
>>34189194
>beating her
This is exactly the time when some kindness would do wonders. It's not even really her fault anyway.

>>34189268
She still needs to learn she was wrong though, this isn't reward, it is supposed to be punishment and a lesson. But it doesn't have to be a harsh one.

>>34189268

It was entirely her fault. She flew off the handle and attempted rape because someone called her names. Even in a fantasy setting with monster people, that's not acceptable, not by a long shot.

>>34189094
seconding

>>34189288
This.

>>34189094
Yeah, works for me.

>>34189268
see >>34189288
She was acting like a slut
She got called a slut
She beat up someone and tried to rape them. . .like a slut.

This isn't hard.

>>34189355
In all fairness, sluts don't normally try to rape people.

>>34189288
She's a monstergirl, rape is what they do and what is done to them. She just wasn't told by anyone not to do what she did, with some education and conditioning she'll learn to behave quicker. Orgasm denial and rewards once she's honestly talking to us, brushing to comfort her.
>>34189287
She and Despine were literally living in the forest before we found them, how would the stupid sister know about customs? Despina can teach her after we get her to accept what we say.

>>34189387


And yet Despina seems to have a fairly solid grasp of what is or isn't appropriate. And has all the way since they were still in the forest. I think you're not giving them enough credit for what they know, and that they're not as far off from the human norm as you're assuming.

>>34189355
We beat people up and rape them too, maybe she was trying to imitate us. Remember how she was bragging about how we fuck her, she's just on the brink of accepting us upfront, fear is not the best choice in this case.
In any case, let's just get back home and deal with Patina first.
If people must make someone punish her besides MC, make it Despina so they both learn and are not too harsh.

>>34189425
>>34189387
>>how would the stupid sister know
She's much younger than her and is obviously dumb. She probably thought it'd make the boy want to be friends with her, she wasn't using double-reverse psychology in a plan to be called a slut.

>>34189436
Of course she was imitating us, and her actions are indeed quite influenced by us.

But we have the smarts to pick people who its appropriate to beat up and sex for our enjoyment, and make sure we have a good reason for it.

>>34189094
I think this is winning?

What are you guys actually doing with Patina?

>>34189512
Basically fuck her whenever we have time.

>>34189512

She's been fairly well behaved. My vote is to give her enough semen to fully regenerate, but have Adelle immobilize her arms for now.

>>34189540
What if we let her regenerate her arms, and set her to work digging the pond?

>>34189512
For Patina I vote
>>34186600

>>34189540
sounds good

>>34189540
>fairly well behaved
>tried to kill us every time she's had four functional limbs
Yeah-huh.

>>34189512
It's not like the satyr threesome will take days, find a place for her to be in the meantime, then return to deal with her afterwards.
I don't really think there is a risk of the copper girl growing bored.

But yeah, "scolding" Chara comes first.

>>34189569
She dosen't need arms to dig.

>>34189609

Which is why we don't give her her arms back, yet. But she's at least claimed to acknowledge our authority and the cum is doing something to her. I'm for giving her partial trust until we have more information. Unless we give her a chance to move, we'll never know if she can in fact be trusted.

>>34189575
Going ahead and seconding this. Lets us take our time to get around to her rather than worry giant golem girl is going to go Kool-Aid man, burst through the wall, and fuck everything up in a rampage.

>>34189512
Does our house have a basement? Get her in there, tell her she can dig a bit if she wants, we'll be back in a bit to smooth out the details of her stay here.

>>34189700
Digging up the foundations without proper oversight and planning will damage the manor.

>>34189722
Not necessarily directly the house's basement
Maybe an unused wine cellar near the property or something. Really, I'd like to eventually get her back into the mine as a reward and as work.

>>34189816
>Not necessarily directly the house's basement
Then >>34189700 should not have pointed towards the house's basement.

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(Went with the "immobilize" choice because I think (?) it was a tie and giving Patina a load would/should be a smut scene on its own)

We could also let her pick out a place herself...? As long as we approve of the location. Ask if she wants to be in the garden, or in the cellar, etc.

>>34189995


Spank, then strap. Nothing worse than that though, although it should be fairly extensive. If she makes a promise to behave, give her a bone.

>>34189995
>Bondage+orgasm denial at first for Chara
>play with Despina (no bondage, just do it normally), let chara see how nice we can be, let Despina enjoy it, whipser in her ear that she did well today.
>finish Depsina
>pat Chara's head, talk to her kindly, kiss her cheeks
>start nice and gentle, then work her up to the orgasm, slow down, then ask if she wants more.

>>34189995
Have we done vaginal with Chara before? Is she a virgin? We should definitely not take her virginity until she herself asks us to if so, it'll be a nice way to show the power difference and get her to accept her more meek/submissive side.

>>34189995
We do this:
>>34189094

Chara orgasm denial at first, pleasurable with Despina, then we give chara what she obviously has been craving lately, since she can't shut up about it, anal.

Starting it out as punishment, while pleasuring despina to make the contrast more apparent, then towards the end show her how nice we are.

Let her know that talking about sex with strangers isn't normal social behaviour, and that if she wants sex, WE are the one who will be giving it (unless we state otherwise), not assaulting strangers.

>>34189995
Take the two to one of the farther rooms.
Go over the basics of what is and isn't acceptable in Human society.
Then >>34190132

>>34190211
Maybe we should eat her out as well? Since she seemed in the mood for that, it can show how much nicer we are than that boy and how we reward her. We could finish off her 2nd/3rd orgasm by eating out her pussy with no penetration so we get her craving for that too.

>>34189995
Start with the brush until she relaxes. Then sell her on the idea of behaving like a maid. She's pretty, but that's not enough. Kini lived like a noble by measuring her words and behavior. If she'd like that, she has to deserve it.

And remind her that sex is a closed matter.

If we do bone her, feed her ego.
- Her little body and face is too cute, even when she pouts
- She has the sexiest rump around when she walks
- Her legs and fur feel great to rub all over
- When she's around, we think about taking her away for an hour
- Her playful little smile is such a turn on, doesn't she notice?
- If she isn't careful, we'll ride her until she cannot think straight
- When she wants more, she only needs to get us alone and use her charms

>We're teaching her not to be lewd in public by being lewd in private
Hope this logic works

>>34190288
I agree, get her craving for vaginal sex, but don't give it to her until she asks.

>>34190290
>- When she wants more, she only needs to get us alone and use her charms
Let's not encourage her initiative in this, we don't want her running off to some random peasant.
I'm afraid we won't be able to keep up with our household of sex-hungry servants and brides after a couple more threads.

>>34190290
Seconding

>>34190325
Well, just make sure she still prefers anal please.

>>34190325
We can also demonstrate how good it is with Despina, but tell her not to bring it up out of nowhere, we don't want her to beg us only out of curiosity.

>>34190342
Maybe we invest in some monsterguys? I think they existed in Original TAQ. I vaguely remember meeting a guy at a bar who was descended of two Minotaurs but only took their human sides or something. That was either Rollan or Mr. Bones original quest though.

>>34190403
I'm not wrong to say that the thought of us and Adelle watching our potentially male and female servants rutting each other for our amusement is alluring, am I?

While participating in our own way of course.

>>34190403
I'm honestly considering just declaring this TAQ to be in a different universe because I haven't, like, memorized all the "canon" TAQ, plus I sent Bones an email earlier this week but never got a reply.

I also have a tendency to make shit up on the spot, which obviously creates problems in this kind of situation.

>>34190355
Sure, we can just make this her proof of accepting us or something.

>>34190369
Forgot if we already did vaginal with Despina, but don't start here, so if we have not then don't demonstrate

>>34190492
Think of all the double penetration fun we can have.

>>34190610
>implying we'd be willing to share
At most that'd have to be a cute submissive trap that we already thoroughly fucked, and it'd be femdom for him.

>>34190610
Kini can morph. At least Despina would be open to it. And then Juniper can demand Kini in gentle lolidom

>>34190492

Total sidepoint, but your post got me thinking.

We need to get Arenne on board. She's not dumb, and as we keep this up, she's going to find out sooner or later. Better we make it sooner and one where we can spin it to be more palatable. If she finds out and finds out that we've been hiding it from her, it's going to get bad.

>>34190752
I think she knows, she just prefers that we don't do it openly in front of her.
She came from a family that had the same setup; the wife knew that the lord was fucking the servants. So long as he doesn't do it in the open, and makes sure to clean up afterwards, she tolerated it.

>>34190794
>>34190752
We also need to work on the Arenne front to make sure this political alliance in our families works and it works when we are in a happy marriage. Granted our little affairs are a little bit in the way, but it doesn't mean we cant try to make sure we win her over just as much as the other girls.

>>34190752
(Pretend all this was explained by Adelle in the timeskip.)

Arenne has already figured out that you're fucking Despina, and by extension has suspicions that you're fucking the other three. She doesn't really care about that in and of itself, it's more a reputation/implication type of thing from the combination of fucking AND not bothering to hide it.

Like, if you're fucking monstergirls and hiding it, it's sort of... a personal vice, and forgivable, especially if you're still attentive to her. If you're not bothering to hide it, it's like saying to her face, "Hey, you're a shitty wife, and I don't care whether or not you know I think so."

>>34190916
Awww, we should make sure to talk to her and let her know that she's important, etc.

>>34190916
We are being still attentive to her of course right? In the ways we've at least should know by now are best.

>>34190959
More or less. She doesn't have nearly as high a sex drive as Adelle and neither you nor Arenne are exactly social butterflies, so there aren't that many opportunities for you to interact, but you're doing okay on that front.

>>34189995
Oh, and we also need to work on Kini being so. . .sad.

>>34191066
Being Kind to Kini is helping right?

>>34190916
>>34191066

Still think we should have a heart to heart with Arenne and ask if she's ok with it. And promise to be discreet, I suppose.

>>34191259
We did that already I think, way way back. Best not to open wounds.

I think when we had sex with Adelle and it turned out she was watching us, as well as the threesome, got good reactions out of her. Not sure,

What exactly are we waiting on?

>>34191647
Smut. Delicious smut.

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Cutting the scene in half for update speed/archival purposes/etc. Vote for Chara shit here.

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>>34191145
Kini's been acclimating to her new position since the last timeskip.

>>34191729

Spank/whip bondage fucking. Give her pleasure, but mix in some pain, and tell her that she's been quite bad, she doesn't deserve this, you're giving it to her on the promise that she'll behave better, and for her sister's sake, not hers.

Don't give her an orgasm. Not until she's shown a much better behavior streak than she has.

>>34191729
I'd say something, but I'm busy right now.

>>34191809
Not sure about whipping, but spanking her little butt does sound fun.

She's been a bad girl after all.

I wonder if Chara will get big tits like her older sister when she gets older.

>>34191729
Remind Despina that she does need to be quiet.
And gag Chara for now. Use a pillowcase.
Reinforce that Despina is getting this because she's been good, and only good girls get the nice treatment.
That Chara doesn't get the nice treatment because she hasn't been good, and part of being good is acting in an acceptable manner in human company.
Spank Chara, a little bit of pleasure when she nods at our prompts, and pain when she looks defiant.

>>34191853
But I like her fun sized. . .

not a bad idea, still want to see Despina get preggy start literally milking her

Not before Adelle sires us an heir though

>>34191729
>>34191809
Spanking and O denial is fine. Whipping not so much for this level of crime.

>>34191729
Convince her she can get the best of both worlds.
Use some from >>34190290 to soften her up.

I agree with the no whipping sentiment.

I also suggest we let chara orgasm in the end though, she needs to get satisfied in some way and we need her to know that way is through us.

The punishment is her not getting it easily.

>>34191997
Perhaps making sure we're absolutely convinced she's sincere she'll work on being better behaved in public.

I'm not saying crying and begging for orgasm, but. . .

>>34191853
That'd be losing variety. Chara is already a cute hellion. We just need to keep that for the bedroom.

>>34191729
>gently rub Despina's head and say softly "of course it was, sweetie"
>turn to Chara with a kind smile and pat her head
>tell her you can't keep handdling her mistakes, but you don't want to punish her too much
>Ask if she promises to learn from us/Despina (to the side "Despina, you'll teach your adorable little sister, won't you?")
>rub her head/back/stomach/butt a bit, ask again
>if she does and it's sincere, then gently place her on the bed so we can eat her out while loking at her face
>start to tease her, bring her to the ege and stop
>if she still doesn't give away her expression, tell Despina to serve as her lap pillow and cradle Chara's head, make her look at us gently
>play with her breass and butt, rub our member on her stomach
>if she doesn't deny wantingnit, fuck her as slowly and in small strokes
>she has to ask for more
>try to prolong her climax to make it us good as possible while complimentig her and making her promise to listen to us.
>make her come, keeo going, pull out and eat her out while she's in the middle of her orgasm(no vaginal penetration, not even fingers)

We'll decide further based on how it went

>>34192096
Wow, okay I might have gone a bit overboard with the details

>>34192096
Of course, Chara only gets fucked in the ass or mouth, at least for now.

>>34192212
I'm tempted to tell her she'll only lose her virginity if she'll actually work on being decent in public and wooing a guy, but that could backfire incredibly horribly.

>>34192238
Yeah, let's not get her that independent. We should make let stew in the taste of the pleasure her vagina can bring her( that we gave her) for a while, and tell her we won't do anything without her permission/request, and that it'd mean she accepts us as her master. Make it sweet sounding if we can.

Okay, sorry for the delay, I had to jerk it and I was having difficulty maintaining a boner. I'll get to writing now.

>>34192238
>I'm tempted to tell her she'll only lose her virginity if she'll actually work on being decent in public and wooing a guy
Sounds like an interesting idea at least.

Maybe like >>34190680 said and get her a submissive guy friend who'll teach her the proper way to act in public on her level.

Or Kini at least. She knows the right way.

Any oldfags here from the original TAQs? What's the one thing you wish we did back then?

>Kill that fucking Jester

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>>34192060
Were such a thing to happen, Arenne, Kini, and Juniper would still have small breasts.

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Hrrmm, what were we supposed to be doing again? Completely forgot. Chara's learned her lesson or are we supposed to say something here. . .

In terms of breast size, it goes:

Despina > Adelle = Patina > Arenne > Chara > Kini > Juniper

Right?

>>34193789
Sounds about right, least the way I see it.

None the least including the Scylla, Captain of the Guard, R63 Mr Bones, and the Trollgirl

>>34193515
I think we need to work on Chara some more. Send Despina out to get a couple rags and a bucket of water, so we can clean off our dick.
Continue fingering Chara, kissing her mouth and breasts as we explain that we want to give her nice things and nice treatment, but we can only do that if she behaves herself.

Once Despina is back, give her a kiss as she cleans us off.
Have the two take off their clothes, then tie Chara's hands behind her back, and go through the pain/pleasure process again, with a more strict orgasm denial. This time, saying that we will be having her learn proper social etiquette, maybe the both of them need training from Kini.
Make sure that Chara gives in, this time, and not just a sarcastic reply.

>>34193815
This is all giving her the message to behave right? Or learn how to?

Have we fined out the details of who's gonna teach her? Kini and Despina probably.

>>34193730
We could go and tell Arenne that the mine should be back up to normal production since we took care of the elemental.
We could also go to Kini, see if she has time in the workload she's given to teach the other servants proper human etiquette. And we can always brush her.

I was wondering if Kini should be assigned to Arenne specifically as an assistant, rather than as a free-floating maid.

We shouldn't forget about the Lorenne/brother murder plot.

>>34193855
>This is all giving her the message to behave right? Or learn how to?
Yes, that she needs to put an honest effort into learning to behave in a socially acceptable manner.

>>34193877
And how to go about that.

>>34193515
can we get a leash for chara, she needs one

>>34193899
Works for me

>>34193809
Then I think...

Scylla = Despina = Erosette > Adelle = Patina > Arenne = Cecilia > Chara > Kini > Juniper.

Trollgirl didn't get enough description to be classified.

>>34193815
>Once Despina is back, give her a kiss
Have the two take off their clothes as soon as Despina is back, then french her and grope her ass, then move down and suckle on her tits for a bit.
I don't think we've really been taking the time to appreciate and enjoy the bodies of our wives and servants.

>>34194231
We really don't. Also we're due for a Juniper scene really soon.

>>34194237
We fucked her like two threads ago, jeez, give the girl a break.

>>34193945
Works for me

>>34194307
But I like Juniper scenes. . .

Fine, mabye another Kini scene then.

My mouth tastes like shit at the moment, so I'm going to go pick up some Sprite and hope that cleans it out.

>>34193815
pls no more smut

I really have no idea how I would even write a genuine "breaking in" scene with Chara, without her being sarcastic/petulant/etc, it's just too OOC.

>>34194388
collar her please

>>34194401
>>34194388

Seconding, or thirding, or whatever the thing for a collar.

A cheap, ratty one too. Not something she can take pride in.

>>34194388
If Chara's not going to break, how about keeping the rest of the scene without making sure Chara breaks? She does need to be told what's going to be done, but more than that I want some more appreciation of Despina's body.

>>34194463
Tell her that she can get a better collar if she behaves and we think she's ready for one?
But wouldn't that be one of Arenne's "don't openly be fucking the servants" things?

>>34194388
>collars we need
Copperbitch (shit one), Despina (good one), Kini (good one, Chara (below average one)

>monstergirls react to circumstances
>devalue Chara
Seriously guys, Juniper and Kini responded to being treated right. Despina is happy as a clam. Why keep pushing Chara?

>>34194669

Juniper was never anything more than a little mischevous. We abused the hell out of Kini, but she's the model. Stark reward and punishment, and immediately apply it.

Chara needs the same thing. And she's likely to screw up, so be ready to apply punishment as necessary.

>>34194534
Nah, there are all kinds of reasons you might make her wear a collar. Slavery is still A Thing in this setting, so the association isn't necessarily sexual.

>>34194568
Collars are hot as fuck, but I'm not sure you've thought this all the way through.

>>34194713
I don't want to go with collars because then it's openly showing what we're doing with the maids.

Small things like freedom of movement, getting an allowance, being allowed to have nice things, are fine, but collars would be over the line.

>gold collars for waifu's
>silver for top tier retinue
>copper for not top tier retinue
>ratty cloth for anyone who misbehaves

>>34194713
Or you know, talk to her straight. Kini didn't listen because of the punishment, I don't think Chara will fare better.

She was already jealous of us getting close with Despina. Giving her importance (the bow, contact, minor liberties, etc) is the right lever to use.

>>34194838

I really don't think Chara is capable of being that reasonable, and I think you're underestimating the impact our torture and rape had on Kini, I don't think kind treatment alone would have been enough. It's the kindness after breaking her with pain.

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>>34194811
>collars for waifus
Yeah, no, even Baron's not that dumb.

>>34194506
Sorry, I'm just really not feeling in the mood any more and I don't want to subject you to unusually subpar smut (as opposed to my normally subpar smut, ohohoho).

Next update will probably be the last for the night.

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>>34195242
We've already tried the rape. And the torture on Kini had the effect of making her a sad mess unable to believe in our shift to kindness.

Chara doesn't care about obeying DIRECTLY. Like Juniper, the answer is using games and orgasms.

>>34195357
Grab a cloth and brush, clean her with her sister.

Show her Patina. We'd hate to do that with her, but if we can't trust her, we have little choice.

>>34195599
We putting the collar on her?

>>34195357

I think we could get Adelle to wear a collar some of the time. If we asked nicely.

>>34195357
"And yet we're the ones in charge, making sure you're fed, have a bed, and aren't killed. I'm not going to coddle you forever, Chara."
And collar her.

>>34195842
No leash? She won't get the meaning, like it, then fume more. It would make a handy threat to show our point.

>>34193872
Kini could work as an assistant. She has the manners to not spaghetti.

>>34196025
>Kini could work as an assistant. She has the manners to not spaghetti.
This righ here

>>34196025
>No leash? She won't get the meaning, like it, then fume more. It would make a handy threat to show our point.
I don't understand what you're saying here.

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Was this a bad thread? Was the smut off? Were there any problems? I feel below par.

>>34196525
The smut was fine, I didn't notice anything particularly off.

>>34196209
The collar will only make her mad. It earns negative points.

We know she likes archery, attention and fucking. Chara knows Despina is getting all regularly and feels envious. I say she stays joined at the hip to Despina, and when she gets her dose, Chara does too for assisting her sister. After that is just a matter of giving her tasks, praise and orgasms until she mellows out.

>>34196525

I won't lie, it was a bit below the average. The smut itself wasn't bad, but it all seemed to drag a bit, the chapter itself was short.


Honestly, I think it's the other way around. Are YOU ok Understudy? Do you want to keep writing these? You said 2 or three times you were feeling a bit under the weather in this thread, and the end of last week's also seemed to have you not at 100%. I'm grateful for what you write, and I've enjoyed the quest ever since I hopped into it, but are you enjoying it? It's selfish to demand that you keep writing if you don't want to. Anything we can do to help you get back to 100%? I figure when we get that, the rest will attend to itself.

>>34196525
May have lost some speed in the middle, but it kept moving. There wasn't large consensus from people to help it along, either.

Smut was still smutty and long. You can always reminds us or offer things so we don't flail around much.

>>34196706
I've been doing a lot of mental labor over the past few days. (Drilling on higher level math, basically.) Any quality reduction is really nothing wrong with you guys or the quest, just general mental exhaustion.

>>34196946
Be sure to keep throwing us these, preferably obvious when possible, plot hooks that have a compelling reason for us to follow. The appearance of the Coppergirl was a major boon, as was the quest to find the Sword long ago which give us something to keep our drive.

Also the Chara situation was very tricky, and admittedly people tend to go quiet in very tricky non-combat situations.

This development by her wasn't a bad thing storywise by all means, but concerning difficult social choices you'll see a lot of people go mum all of a sudden who were very vocal before.

>>34195873
Mmm. Probably. I doubt she'd go for it in public, though.