404 at the last minute when I was posting the end? Really? -----------------------------------------"Lingqi!" you yell. "Do not let that ship get close! Stop him!""Damned!" Lingqi yells as she orders her ship to engage the enemy ship. However, Huang Gai manages to outmaneuver Lingqi with his speedboat and they only manage to exchange some arrows. "You are far too wet behind the ears girl!" Huang Gai shouts as he blitzes past Lingqi and heads straight for Lu Bu's ship. "Get our lord to safety, NOW!" Chen Gong commands. "Fengxian, hurry, move now!" Lu Bu throws curses as he runs to the safety boats, not wishing to abandon the command ship but finding no choice. Huang Gai lights fire on to his ship and crashes it in to Lu Bu, the resulting impact making an explosion before Huang Gai and his men abandon the boats. Enemy ships quickly charge forward to rescue Huang Gai and to drive an opening.Morale plummets on your side as the command ship falls, though Lu Bu and Chen Gong manage to escape. Sun Ce and the rest of his ships use the opportunity to surge forward and inflict some defeats on your force. Your fleet is pushed back and driven away for the day, and Sun Ce's forces make constant harassing attacks to your fleet for the next month. Your fleet has faced a defeat and a slight setback.Lu Bu: 20,000 --> 15,000Zhang Liao: 10,000 --> 8000Zhu Xing: 10,800 --> 8000Sun Ce: 20,000 --> 14,000
>>34079694That old bastard!
Part 14 end. +1 War, +2 Lead.Terrible rolls, that's all I got to say. Questions and feedback, go.
Rolled 61>>34079694MFW LINGQI SURVIVEDTHANKYOUBASEDRAIANBut let's counterattack now.
Leave it to based Huang Gai to steal the damned show.
>>34079694>Lingqi still aliveRaian, can you tell me where you live so I can suck your peepee. I don't even care about the battle.
>>34079728How badly did we screw up with our choices? Or was it almost purely dice gods wrath ?
>>34079728This is why we need Sun Ce. The dice apparently love him whenever he isn't dueling us.
Rolled 41>>34079694we lost the battle but they lost han dang. We now more than double his troop count. We will beat him.
At least we killed Han Dang
>>34079728do you enjoy us and these threads
OFFICIAL THREAD THEMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsuXBfpN84
Rolled 87, 14 = 101>>34079735This.Raian, I've got a kettle to give you.
>>34079694What could we have done better? Besides roll better? How were our decisions overall?
I was worried Linqi was going to bite it. We've got to crush this Ce once and for all. Give our lord a tiger pelt.
>>34079728Oi. Part 15 NAO. Do it Raian. Be a bro here mate.Thanks for running anyway.
>>34079767No no, we need to write creepy fanmail. That'll definitely win him over to our side.
>>34079746All correct decisions. Terrible rolls. Be glad no terrible rolls when you were boarding Han Dang's ship. Choosing to fight the Shanyue would have been a terrible choice though, I'll let you think on that why.
>>34079694What does Lu Bu and Chen Gong think of our performance in this battle? A-are they disappointed in us?
Rolled 20>>34079728while you updated our stats, you have not updated our armor to reinforced iron armor with the +2. Instead it is still listed as +1
>>34079757For a second I was going to post this, but then Lingqi made it out alive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igGae-6baqM
Rolled 27>>34079785They would happily fuck us over when we're gone.
Aw god damn it. I was hoping that the waifu would be buried.
Fuck my life in the ass.
Rolled 48>>34079785Because they would have come back and raped us?Really really tired men?
>>34079785I'm guessing that we had already pushed our troops and general to the limit with all the training and morale would plummet? Campaigning in winter might not be a smart idea and would diminish our army right before a campaign?
>>34079728So. Normally the dice doesn't fuck us without lubing up. Tonight's dice have been particularly... hm... finicky.But seriously, a slight ghost bonus for making the "correct" decision would be nice-- unless you're already doing that behind the scenes. Bad enough the dice roller here can drive a person insane.Anyways, how salvageable is the naval war going to be? Given that we're-- what, Adept ranked in Naval whereas Sun clan's obviously Crack level.
Rolled 22Well shit, guess Sun Ce won't be a nobody any longer, though at least the dice gods have already told us to murder him and his entire family
>>34079789I dont really have anything to say. Enjoyed it once we got past the whole Sun Ce mailing. glad i stayed awake to 4AM for thisIt is almost 10AM now
HUANG GAI SAVES THE DAY AWW YEAHLu Lingqi is going to eat a brainbuster next thread while also arousing the troops with a panty shot
>mfw that one guy got hit with a fucking spear while escaping
Rolled 16>>34079785Why was Lingqi's boat the only one nearby?Didn't we have enough ships that the COMMAND SHIP, THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE AT THE BACK, should be safe? Especially with the tactic we chose
>>34079785Did we encounter any of Sun Ce's generals besides Sun Ce, Huang Gai, and what's his face that we killed?Wondering how much leadership they lost by losing that guy.
>>34079789Not really. You command a third of the army, fault lies on them too for losing the battle.>>34079807No. Boarding a ship itself and charging toward an enemy ship itself is dangerous. Bad rolls and such, you get some injuries and your troops lose morale from seeing you driven back.
Rolled 26, 87 = 113>>34079803If you don't like why-foo-ism, then you should throw your support behind monogamous Lingqi, shouldn't you?Once we've got the one, we don't have to chase more
>>34079834That was pretty fucking metal
On one hand it's disappointing that we did pretty much everything right and still lostOn the other it's fucking hilarious
>>34079865Atleast we got a kill.
Rolled 38Lingqi's gonna feel like shit for blowing it, isn't she?
Rolled 76>>34079824why? he beat us. Lu Lingqi isn't dead. Stop being anti-sun ce out of spite. It makes you as big a faggot as the pro-Sun ce people.
Rolled 44>>34079853I was talking about the ShanyueOn Handang, how high would we have had to roll to capture him?
Rolled 20>>34079865Sometimes we get good rolls, sometimes we get bad rolls.
>>34079881cefag pls, your time is over.
This battle was fucking beautiful and one of the most tense threads in the quest so far. Thanks for hosting Raian.
>>34079842The tactic was correct, the roll was unfortunately not, and the enemy pushing your troops back. If it was any of the other tactics it would have been worse.Lu Bu does not sit in the way back because he's Lu Bu. Even Cao Cao didn't cower in the back at Red Cliffs.
>>34079853Will we be fully healed by the time next thread rolls around?Also how does dueling twice in a thread work? Do we start from the same HP or do we regenerate back to 100 if we aren't injured at the end of the first duel?
Rolled 28>>34079892Honestly seeing that same post over and over again with the same punctuation, makes me really hate you.
>>34079865I'd say we still put up a damn good fight
I don't think we did terribly. We killed Han Dang in (almost) single combat, I get the feeling that it's going to be a determent to enemy morale, especially Sun Ce's. Sucks we got pushed back but not a total catastrophe.
Rolled 58We didn't make it to Sun Ce.I told you what will happen now.
>>34079853So if there was a meter show how the winds of war are blowing, which side is being favored to win after this first engagement?
>>34079880Consolation timeCommon grab your waifuWe're going to get somePork tonightWith Lingqi the waifuAnd Xing the spaghettiThe dere never endsIt's consolation time
>>34079887>>34079901Guys! i got a picture of our kill!
Rolled 41>>34079892'cefag pls' fag. pls stop
>>34079853Well, at least they won't think of us as crazy for wanting Sun Ce on our side. Not going to happen now though. Hopefully next battle goes our way.
You're next, Huang Gai
>>34079925We took 10,000 casualties to Sun Ce's 6000. However, they started outnumbered 2 to 1 and also lost one of their generals. The morale is the big problem here, so an early duel might be helpful next thread.
Rolled 5>>34079892see this is what made people hate pro-sun ce people. Being a giant faggot. I'm kinda bummed we had to kill han dang. Am I a dangfag. I'm glad lu bu and lu lingqi survived. Am i a lu-fag. Shut the fuck up. I like all the characters.
>>34079912How did Gan Ning perform in this battle?
>>34079954I agree. Once we have rested we should probably try to start out the next battle with a duel.
Rolled 13>>34079912Can we not have things rely on the dice so much?I mean, the enemy doesn't even get opposing rolls, or visible ones anyway
>>34079962Even the dice think you're retarded.
Rolled 81>>34079973Massive full on assault?
Rolled 19>>34079973A month has already passed dude.
Rolled 61>>34079978no u.
>>34079981Nah that is just inviting us into another fire attack. Our tactic worked fine.
I predict /tg/'s anuses will clench at this one and we'll become overprotective of Lingqi until she can beat us dueling and then we'll ask her to marry
>>34079991We just need to sacrifice something to the dice gods and keep kill their generals. How many generals can they have?
Assuming Huang Gai and Cheng Pu are next, if we keep up this duelling performance we are gonna be known as the uncle killer.
>>34080004>>34079934>Perfect love story10/10 Should become the next Confucian classic
Why a full month long timeskip in the middle of the battle? Seems pretty carp that one bad night effects that much of the campaign.
The question now is, how unlucky will Cao Cao and Liu Bei be in their conquests?
Rolled 91>>34079991So how should we proceed?
>>34079917You start from full HP assuming you obtained no injuries. Injuries gained starts you at lower HP, at going below 60 HP with stacked injuries will lead to death. The injury obtained while fighting Huang Gai is very minor. If you duel again, you will start at 95 HP. No heal next thread unless you specify you rest and recover despite the campaign going on.>>34079933Lu Bu still has more troops. Even if it was a defeat, he's still "winning." How much of a setback it sets for taking Lu Jiang is a different matter.>>34079970Well.>>34079976I try not to, which is why I haven't made Lu Bu's fleet completely routed and defeated. I have a number of rolls in this battle because even if Lu Bu has more men, it's Sun Ce leading Sun Jian's old generals. And on a naval battle. Compare a year's worth of training to guys who've been at the waters all their lives. Decisions, naval training, numbers, all played a roll with the dice.
We need to do what Cao Cao did after Red Cliff to restore morale:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycib48CBKNQ&list=PL618CCE37F4A1D6FD&index=93#t=114
>>34080033Hey Raian, can we have an interaction scene which addresses this >>34079880
>>34080025We did lose about ten thousand men in that one night
Rolled 68>>34079728Raian, next thread when?Tomorrow?
>>34080033Here's an important question.What would have happened if we sent off that letter to Sun Ce?
>>34080033But hasn't it already been a month? Surely our nose isn't giving us that much trouble
>>34080033If we both survive can we marry Lingqi after this campaign? That was too close for me. Although just asking that is now a death flag.
Rolled 4>>34080033>>34080046Now. My dice are ready. The thread is read. All we need is a Raian.
>>34080012Huang Gai and Cheng Pu are weaker in ROTK than the unknown general we killed. Cheng Pu in particular. Cheng Pu also insulted us way back in thread 2. So yeah, uncle killer is just fine with me. >>34080063Anon...
>>34080063Your dice are ready to kill us.
Rolled 72>>34080063Go away.I dont want your diiiiice
Rolled 9>>34080067>>34080069>>34080077No wait, let me try again.
Rolled 88>>34080089Let me show you how it's done, anon
>>34080089See: >>34080048Hang yourself
Rolled 3>>34080089You go & never come back
>>34080089It's time to put you out to the pasture
>>34080063>>34080089GET OUT AND NEVER POST AGAIN
Rolled 73>>34080096>>34080097>>34080098>>34080099>>34080100Stop bullying me.
>>34080067can we kill huang gai by setting him on fire? After his stunt, he deserves it.
>>34080046Monday. I can't work, quest, do normalfag stuff and do Kancolle all at the same time.>>34080048Not telling for now.>>34080051Which is why only -5 HP.>>34080061If you want go for it.
>>34080039This was probably my favorite scene in the entire series.
>>34080111Bullying seems to improve rolling power..
>>34080126>/tg/ dice thrive on nerd rage
>>34080112YESKILL IT WITH FIRE
>>34080122GODFUCKINGDAMN IT RAIANWHYWHY CANT YOU SETTLE THE LETTER DEBATE ONCE AND FOR ALL
Rolled 86>>34080122I will sink your daughterus.
Rolled 100>>34080122Raian, you might be waiting to update the pastebins at the end but you still havent changed it to reinforced iron armor.
>>34080148Wo-tan please go
Rolled 79>>34080152WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS DURING THE QUEST
>>34080112Huang Gai gave a minor embarrassment to Lu Bu, hardly worth giving him an agonizing death.
Rolled 92>>34080122>Not telling for now.Well at least remember to tell us when its down.
Rolled 48>>34080166because i'm much more concerned with keeping our character sheet up to date. I'm an accountant by nature.
>>34080169It's entirely worth giving him an agonizing ironic death. After we skin Ce and make a rug out of it.
Rolled 23>>34080169>burn Huang Gai>yell for Sun Ce to come and duel us>RAGE
>>34080169That one guy fractured our nose so we javelined him the chestGotta pay back your enemies
Rolled 33>>34080179>accountantGo back to /pol/
Rolled 65>>34080205w. . .what?
>>34080205I dont understand
>>34080190>>34080185>>34080181You're being unrighteous. You're starting to seem like pic related.
>>34080228Fuck off. He disgraced our lord, he pays for it.
>>34080244Not very confucian of you.
>>34080252Good. Confucianism is a cancerous philosophy
>Tfw no burnt Lingqi to waifu
>>34080265Which makes Zhu Xing the villain of the three kingdoms.
>>34080266She'll still be depressed about failing her father when he needed her, so we can still comfort her.
>>34080266>tfw no qt blind cai yan to waifu
>>34080280No, we are just combat Sima Yi.
>>34080360>we start calling everyone weaklings instead of imbeciles
>>34080374You know, come to think of it, all the best strategists come from defeat. Zhuge Liang while Liu Bei is fleeing, Sima Yi after red Cliff, even Lu Su. Perhaps this defeat will have our strategist come forth from the shadows?
>>34080427Haung Gai has used up his fire attackRed Cliffs is gonna suck
>>34080427yeah but this defeat wasn't that devastating.
>>34080460It's Huang Gai. Pretty sure he has one of the biggest fire fetishes in RoTK. There will always be more fire attacks.>>34080462It wasn't devestating, but it was one that sets the mood of the invasion. We brought the most troops and got way layed by the smallest army. If Liu Bei beats us, it's going to be a major insult to our capabilities. One of which that Cao Cao might use.
Rolled 50>>34080215>>34080226Accountants have a high pol stat.
>>34080533>Liu BeiLiu bei is fighting on our side ya dunce.
>>34080533I dunno, Liu Bei is assaulting Yuan Shu's capital, he might have difficulty there since he only has half of Xu province. I was hoping that we could push beyond Lu Jiang to maybe go as far north as Hefei. Doesn't look like that will be happening though
>>34080533He still has the smallest army.If sun ce wins another battle in this manner, hes can no longer fight.
>>34080612If we win another battle with those losses, we'll have serious issues sieging anything.
>>34080612We might not have the capacity to take the two cities either. We want to defeat Sun Ce but he's not the final boss here
Rolled 34Man I hope Cao Cao suffers some major losses as well
>>34080591No, but he is competition. He is also the one with the smallest land and lowest fame. He's not the 'Imperial Uncle' yet I believe. Just a guy with two really strong brothers. Also, there is the fact he's going for the capital. If he beats us in getting his goal before we can get ours, it will make us look mighty weak.
>>34080650>cao cao suffering losses>to yuan shulaughingcaocao.gif
>>34080650We should insanely brutally attack Cao Cao and incapacitate him with a series of powerful blows to his head and body.
>>34080700He is the imperial uncle by dint of blood relations.
>>34080700He's facing 40,000 men. He's probably not going to win or make any real significant progress.
Rolled 31We really do have a tiny army.
Rolled 39>>34080715That was always on the cards.Its just when we get to his ass.
>>34080878>implying CaoCao won't manage to flee if we take over the capitalIf there's one thing he's really good at, it's running away.
>>34080869We have some pretty elite generals though. I'm looking forward to our next dual. I think we can still win against Sun Ce even if we are starting with a mild handicap of -5 health. We are a lot stronger and have better equipment compared to our initial duel.
>>34080908/tg/ say differently.
>>34080913/tg/ dice, even.
Rolled 22>>34080908Better hope the dicegods are kinder to us once the duel starts though
Rolled 51>>34080908Not if we roll like today.I was really hyped for this campaign but now I just want it to be over and everyone be safe and sound at home.
Rolled 35>>34080892Never said we'd nail his ass on the first try.It will at least end up in his mouth at least.
>>34080908>things that are impossible to not interpret sexually
>>34080913/tg/ always freaks out during the middle of a duel. I'm pretty sure we were freaking out in the duel against Yu Mi too and he was a total scrub.
Rolled 78>>34080933>>34080935>>34080936avg: 36This quest is cursed now.
>>34080949The dice gods agree with you
>>34080935I love all our generals
So how is raian gonna calculate lost equipment?
>>34080973I hope we can capture some warships because goddamn it we spent a lot of money on our fucking fleet.
Rolled 2>>34080979We have an ex-pirat in our crew don't we? Let him do the capturing.
>>34080979Ships are easy to calculate.More worried about how much armour, spears, crossbows and/or siege units we lost.
>>34080979Losing battles is costly. Who knew?
>>34080999We're down to 8000 guys, so we lost 2k improved armor. We didn't buy any improved spears, I don't think we embarked our siege units at all. How many xbows we lost is all up to raian.
>>34080998Didn't we also capture Han Dang's warship?
>>34079694>>34079728Yo OP, not to say you're bad at what you're doing or a horrible person or anything but could you please keep the word Quest in your thread's subject field? Some of us prefer browsing /tg/ for the actual discussion threads but filtering out threads without a subject is kind of a bitch.Thanks in advance.
>>34081045>being this autistic
>>34081045He's usually good about it, it's the first time he made a part 2.
>>34081141I laughed at the 'befriend great generals'
>>34081155It's funny because it's true.
Rolled 57We've got a pretty high war now, don't we?
>>34084847Nat 92 war, 97 Augmented we are currently one of the best out their in terms of War.
>>34085290We just ran through another year of game time and got a total of +3 to stats, so it seems we're going to have to make do with what we've got. Zhu Xing will never be Zhang Liao tier, sadly.
>>34086419But unlike Zhang Liao we need to balance more stats than just WAR.But i do think we will get there at some point
>>34086759No, zhang liao is excellent at lead, war, int, cha and pretty good at pol. We're excellent at war, a bit above average at lead and int, and bad at cha and pol.
>>34086857Got any plans for the next battle ?This one was pretty close to turn into Chi Bi
>>34087552Plans seem pretty useless. We did everything right and bad dice rolls still screwed us.
>>34087894So the plan is "Dice better" seems simple enough
>>34087552>>34087894We just need to keep doing the right things. Don't be too cautious, but don't be too aggressive against a competent foe. Pay attention to the wind and try to duel enemy generals early on if possible. Also git gut at rolling high
I bet Cao Cao is rubbing his hands in joy over the news of our harship
>>34086759Looking at ROTK 11 stats at least, Zhang Liao's main advantages over us are his excellent lead and good charisma. Our WAR is virtually identical, we have higher Pol, and intelligence is in striking range at least. He's also 3 years older than us so we aren't hopelessly behind I guess
>>34088051our skill points/year have decreased dramatically since the start. it's very unlikely we'll match zhang liao in anything but war now.
>>34088051we should manage to overtake him if we just keep making good choices.But one thing i do wonder. Who should be grant Yuan Shu's city to ?Zhang Liao ?
>>34088114I can us matching intelligence in few years or campaigns. I don't think we'll be matching his lead, but honestly we don't have to overtake Zhang Liao in everything. I'm pretty happy with our progress.>>34088138I don't really think it's our call. Lu Bu and Chen Gong will probably decide. I'm going to guess Zhang Liao is next in line since he's the second highest ranked general and Yuan Shu's city is going to be another border city that needs defending.Also muh Hefei and Zhang Liao
>>34088203Except if was controlling Yuan Shu's land, Hefei would be irrelevant except as a staging point for allied armies to march through.
>>34088203>I don't really think it's our call. Lu Bu and Chen Gong will probably decide.I know. But we are like the number one guy he listens to. So we should probably advice him as such if we are asked.He Fei is also my number one reason for suggesting it
>>34088249Dont mean it litteraly. Just want him to guard the border province so he can do a Hefei
>>34088249I think it's unlikely that Cao Cao will stage an invasion of Lu Bu when he has so many other problems to deal with. But Lu Jiang and Hefei if we get that far is an important area to defend since it's a barrier before our cities.Plus all the prefects are going to have to rebuild our armies once this campaign is done. Fucking Sun Ce and Huang Gai man
>>34088319On the bright side, killing sun ce's adoptive uncle should finally shut up the debate about sending him letters.
>>34088340I'm more worried/excited about our upcoming duel with Sun Ce. I think we could easily take Sun Ce's other generals even with mediocre dice.
>>34088340Killing him was likely one of the best things we did in that battle
>>34088319Once we have dealt with Sun Ce we can take over Jiazhou and then backstab Cao Cao with the help of Liu Biao once he and Yuan Shao gets into conflict.>>34088340I was actually for sending a letter intill it got so absurd that i voted against it
>>34088387Considering the only good dice rolls we had were during the duel, that's not saying much.
>>34088409The Heavenly guided our spear throw!
>>34088401We should totally work with Liu Bei to backstab Cow Cow. Then he can forget to return a province to us and we can murder the shit out of him. Win/win.
>>34088428meant to say Heavenly wind, goddamnit
>>34088401>Liu Biao>Getting out of his rocking chair to help us against Cao Cao
>>34088458Ofcourse by Liu Biao i mean his son. And if he cant help us we can always use Liu Bei. Pretty sure we would love to free the emperor from Cao Cao
>>34088475But seriously Liu Bei is fairly weak in this quest since he only has half a province. We can use him, but don't count on him to do too much
>>34088532True. But he can serve as an distraction. Heck we might even get Ma Teng in on this and attack Cao Cao from four different directions
>>34088387I can picture Zhu Xing bragging about his spear throw and being generally insufferable>So we lost the battle and 10,000 men, what should we do now? >Yes yes, but did you see that totally sweet spear throw?
>>34088532I'd be more excited about having his brothers on our side.
>>34088578Has he ever bragged about anything? Zhu Xing seems pretty warrior monkish.
>>34088578Next battle ends up the same way but with us killing Cheng Pu rinsen and repeat intill only Sun Ce is left
>>34088578>Lu Bu proceeds to compliment Zhu Xing on his 420 No Scope Spear Throw>Chen Gong looks forlornly into the sunset
>>34088458Since Liu Biao isn't going to send his army, we could at least ask for some supplies and borrow some warships that he's not using.
>>34088605>Kill all of his uncles one by one>finally face sun ce, he's half mad with grief>duel is a one sided slaughter, finally end him as an act of mercyI could get behind this.
>>34088656>Capitalize on Sun Ce's grief by leading him directly into an ambush
>>34088713Actually yeah. We just need to goad him a bit and he should seriously come gunning for us now. We can definitely make use of that.
>>34088742So you're saying we need to write him a letter?
>>34088742>He sees through our plan and like half of china knows about our relationship with Lingqi he then surrender to Lu Bu and part of the deal is that he marries her and have Lu Bu make us marry his sister in an act of revenge.
>>34088759>Dear Sun Ce>I had a great time in the last battle>Slaughtering whats-his-face was particularly enjoyable>You should have seen the look in the dude's face>Fucking classic>See ya next battle>Love, Zhu Xing>P.S.>Ur a Faget
Raian should get a twitter.
>>34088823We just tell Lu Bu that Sun Ce is a faget and our bro Gongtai will back us up Then Sun Ce gets a halberd to the face and all was well
>>34088876P.P.S. Did you see that 420 no scope spear to the back?
>>34088965Chen Gong is our wing man and a bro
>>34088965We've just gotta make sure his siblings don't hate us so much that they won't do work. So killing him in battle if we do it at all.
>>34089032Eh. Killing quan and ssx are benefits, not downsides.
>>34089032Nah, his siblings are useless. We already got enough good administrators who are loyal to us.
>>34089043Not taking SSX as ours and Lingqi's personal loveslave
>>34089072She's like 6, dude.
>>34089084We can wait
Now that i think about it. Dont we have their mother within our land ?
>>34089043>>34089116Returning his siblings to their mother could be seen as benevolent by those idiot peasants.
>>34089253That is actually not a half bad idea.
>>34089116Using her as a hostage is both a terrible idea and completely opposite to Zhu Xing's personality.It's like the people trying to be machiavellian about our siblings. Not only is it stupid, because they are useless for external alliances since they're not of the ruling family, but it's counter to how the character has acted up to this point.
Hey, when we meet our strategist, will we get to Chargen them?
>>34089273I never said we should take her hostage.
>>34089283I doubt it, everyone except the Zhu family existed in Records or Romance of the Three Kingdoms Our best bet is getting a local strategist or wiseman that lived in Jing or Yang provinces.I still contend that Xu Shu would be the ideal choice. He was a badass warrior in his youth like Zhu Xing
>>34089273>not of the ruling familyOh ho ho ho ho ho ho!That will change when our lord's son proves himself incapable because Diaochan's coddling, though it might not be that bad. Liu Cong's son will be incapable because Liu Biao's shit tutors. We will be able tutor our son effectively with the help of our brother, as well as training him in matters of war so he doesn't end up a pissant like Liu Bian.
>>34089352We just have to keep searching for talent and praying to the dice gods, basically.
>>34089396So what you are saying is that we are fucked.
>>34089405Sideways with a rusty poleaxe, yes.
>>34089387>implying Lu Bu will ever get sons
>>34089387Liu Biao has a lot of wisemen and scholars. He's also pretty accomplished himself according to the quest. He's just unambitious, which is a great trait for a follower, but not a leader. Liu Cong seems to be similar in that regard, which makes him perfect.
>>34089387That doesn't actually change the fact that they aren't useful for external alliances. Zhu Xing and Lingqi's children will have be useful for that. Zhu Xings siblings? Not so much.
>>34089442If we could make him swear fealty to Lu Bu it would be perfect. We would pretty much be on the size of the Kingdom of Wu
>>34089432Drat. At least if it ever comes down to war, that emperor will be spineless like his father and his father's father.
>>34089442>Zhu Xing and Lingqi's children will have be useful for that. Zhu Xings siblings? Not so much.i vote for our sons to be named: Zhu Bu and Zhu Wei
>>34089442I honestly think the "ideal" matches are with powerful noble families in the South, and not with other lords. Marrying those noble families would solidify our support in the South so it's practical. Other nobles? Like you said, Zhu Xing isn't Lord Lu Bu, he's just Lu Bu's top general. Of course we haven't actually done anything to set those matches up for our sister, so we really should get on that. I'm all aboard with the Cai Yan idea though since we'll play the brother if Zhu Xing gets axed. I don't want Generic Waifu no. 1 as our waifu.
>>34089457We probably have to conquer the south and build up our forces before he'd really consider that. We aren't overwhelmingly stronger than him currently.
>>34089495I'm fairly sure that we are actually weaker than him in term of manpower and economy. Jing province was notoriously rich and we've only recently conquered Yang. Their generals are pretty mediocre from what we've seen though
>>34089494Know any historical powerful families in the south that we could marry her to or is it just generic noble house #133 ?
>>34089494We /are/ the powerful noble families of the south. We've run off or assimilated the ones who had power. Gao Shun is going to get land because he's one of the top 5 generals in our faction. He's an excellent match for our sister.
>>34089546I don't actually think that's the case. We've usurped power from the Liu Yao, Wang Lang, and the bandit king, but the noble families with their landholdings should have been left intact. The Lu Bu banquet had a lot of nobles attend as well, including the shitlord that we send to jail. Liu Bei gained Xu through the support of Mi and Chen clan, surely the south has their equivalents. I'm actually fine with Gao Shun as a back-up but I do think we should ask about power noble families in the area and their character.
>>34089640The ones you're talking about are petty barons at best. They have little land and no military might. Our faction are going to end up counts and above, and will have significant holdings and military might.
>>34089640Did we ever get our siblings to start studying?
>>34089684Those are assumptions though. They could hold a great deal of land and economic power for all we know. That was the case for a lot of noble families that weren't lords. How about we ask Raian in quest or in Q&A about the noble families of the South and how powerful/wealthy they are? If they are petty barons, sure Gao Shun. If they are more influential, then we should see if there's a good match for the sister. >>34089704I think it got drowned out by the Sun Ce letter debate. Too bad really
We still have no style name.
>>34089737>I think it got drowned out by the Sun Ce letter debate. Too bad reallyGoddamnit guess i will just have to suggest itagain
>>34089762We should get one after the campaign. Win the campaign and get a style name and a waifu. Lose and you get nothing.
>>34089737Hell, we could even ask our brother. He's supposed to be the politically connected one of our family.
>>34089792After this campaign we should probably ask Lu Bu to marry Lingqi and hope he doesnt impale us on the spot.Note to self: Buy better armor
>>34089836>implying armor would matterHe's going to duel us for her hand, you realize this, right?
>>34089847Or we could just call in that free wish he gave us when we defeated Wang
>>34089864>not wanting an epic duel with lu bu sempai
>>34089847>>34089847Lu Bu doesn't seem like an overprotective father. He married off his eldest to Liu Biao's clan to secure an alliance like it was nothing. He lets his youngest fight in the battlefield. Zhu Xing is his favored general and "brother", he would of course allow the marriage. There might be a practice duel, but nothing serious.
>>34089847>yfw he beats us till we are bloody >we are lying on the ground>with several broken rips>our armor and weapon broken>and he yells at us to stand up and fight>we stand up>stumble forward>giving him a weak slap with out last bit of energy>he falls backwards and declares us the winnerPapa Bu just wants the best for his daughter.
>>34089886With how our rolls has been lately i would rather avoid it so we dont end up looking like a complete idiot
>>34089925>we get nursed back to health by a dere lingqi
>>34089932We had pretty shitty rolls when we dueled Lu Bu sempai as a young captain of the guards. We still technically tied with Lu Bu having an edge because of favorable match ups.
>>34089925>Then he walks away laughing and spend the entire night drinking with us.
>>34089957>she thinks we are still unconscious>"What were you thinking... geeze you could have been really hurt you know?">"I was really really worried about you.">"Wake up already you stupid idiot."
>>34089967>Bachelor parties in the Lu household from that point on all start with a duel between the father and groom.
>>34090025Wait... the fathers of our brothers supposed bride is dead right? Does that mean our brother will have to fight Papa Bu as well?
>>34089540This is getting into meta territory, but the four great houses of Wu were supposed to be Zhang (Zhang Zhao), Gu (Gu Yong), Lu, and Zhu. I think all of those houses except Zhang rose to prominence as a result of their achievements, so probably not too relevant. Zhang Zhao's clan might be worth marrying into though. He's the highest ranked civil leader, a prefect of his own city, leader of a powerful clan, and it would be nice to get along with him via marriage to his son or something. Also slightly interesting note. The Zhu clan (not related to our character) were known for their loyalty, which is kind of Zhu Xing's thing.
>>34090067He's gonna fight Gu Yong in a poetry competition. Zhu Xing will be one of the judges and promptly fall asleep
>>34090067She's marrying into our household, I think, so it wouldn't count.
>>34090101sounds good. but it is hardly meta to ask Gu Yong if there is any important houses in the area it might be better to get a good relationship with
>>34090154Also any idea how much land we will get out of this war if we win ?I was kinda hoping for Yi Yang and all the way along the river.Ofcourse Cao Cao will most likely be a dick and give us very little
>>34090154True. I'm also starting to persuade myself that sister marrying Zhang Zhao's son would be a better idea than Gao Shun or nameless noble 1. The head of Lu Bu's military and civilian faction merging? That sounds like a recipe for success. It would also prevent future headbutting in the future.
>>34090231We are for sure getting the X marked territory. I don't think Yi Yang is realistic since we'd be getting a good 60-70% of the province. Plus Cao Cao is invading Ru Nan area and Yi Yang is near his staked out territory. I think our best bet for extending our land is to go southwest since Liu Biao ain't doing shit or northeast to Hefei since Liu Bei will have diverted their defenders.
>>34090321If we are lucky we can sneak attack Yang Zhou while Liu Bei is holding them busy we could also send a smaller force to try and get Ping Chun or atleast Gu Shi while doing so
>>34090388Yang zhou is Lu Bu's territory though...
>>34090419ah sorry i meant the city Huai Nan Shou Chun
>>34090448That would be nice. Might be a little tough even with Liu Bei's help considering Shou Chun is Yuan Shu's capital. I think at minimum we should secure all the area around the lake in the marked out red area. Hefei's on my wishlist because it seems like a nice stopping point and probably won't be as heavily defended as Shou chun.
>>34090508Wouldnt Yuan Shu's main force be dealing with Cao Cao ?
>>34090552Last thread, the distribution was 50,000 against Cao Cao in Runan, 40,000 against Liu Bei in Shouchun, and 20,000 against us. I don't think that takes into account the defenders or the garrison in each city. We have 33,000 troops left, have to beat Sun Ce and take our two objectives before we can move on. Liu Bei's army is likely tiny as hell according to Chen Gong's assessment. Chances of us taking Shouchun seem slim at best.
>>34089704Our siblings are backups for Xing right now. We can always retroactively say that they studied whatever. I think we would just need a time in which they could have learned that skill, and some gold to spend on their tutoring
>>34090618Tutoring the siblings had been brought up like a few years ago in game time. Why can't we act in a timely fashion?
Wait, did we bring Zhou Tai with us? We didn't get the option to pick garrison or commander so I'm guessing nothing bad will happen at Wu. If so, is he going to act as our bodyguard?
>>34090599You are probably right. However i think we should try make sure Liu Bei doesnt get his hands on Tu Tang so pretty much everything around the eriver and then head for Tu Tang.Ofcourse after we have dealt with Sun Ce and taken Lu Jiang Wan Cheng
>>34090706Yeah, I'd be fine with pushing our troops if their defenses seem light. Of course, Chen Gong can probably give a good assessment at the time.
>>34090846So something like this ?
>>34091198Yeah, although that's if we roll everything well and plan perfectly. Basically an ideal scenario. If things go okay but not perfectly, then pushing to Hefei might be too much. The lake area seems to be fine though.
>>34091917With how we are rolling we will end up losing everything and get pushed back to the city of Wu...
>>34091993We outnumbered Sun Ce 2 to 1 at the start and we still outnumber him 2 to 1 and he lost one of his best generals as well. That's with shitty rolls. I don't see us getting pushed back to be honest. The question is what percent of our army will be intact for subsequent sieges.
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>34092051I exaggerated for comedic effectWe have plenty of siege weapons so that should be a problem. Infact if we manage to get Sun Ce and his army killed on the water the taking of the city will be of little problem.Its just a shame we will lose Zhou Yu, but i doubt he would ever be loyal and instead encourage Sun Ce to rebel if he ever got the chance. If Sun Ce had joined usAlso testing roll
>>34092127>We have plenty of siege weapons so that should be a problemYou also need bodies for a siege. I would say that the average for this time period is the attacker losing twice as many men as the defender, even if he wins.
Rolled 73 (1d100)>>34092127Fucking hell
Rolled 34, 34 = 68 (2d100)>>34092127Yeah, I don't see any of Sun Ce's general defecting to our side. That's the problem with loyalists I guess. We've met all of Sun Ce's generals except Zhou Yu, right? We've dueled Zu Mao and Sun Ce. Got insulted by Cheng Pu. Got firebombed by Huang Gai. Actually, I think we might have accidentally saved Zu Mao's life. Zu Mao was cut down in Sishui pass in Romance, he might not have participated in battle because we injured him beforehand
>>34092245Also killed who-ever that was but yeah. I dont really remember much of Zu Mao. Was he any good ?Only Zhou Yu is left and he is one crafty asshole. But i do wonder one thing, what are we going to do with Sun Quan and SSX if we manage to catch them. Give them to their mother or hold them hostage ?
>>34092318Better to have them "die attempting to flee." Sun Quan ain't really hot shit, but he might still be able to rally an army around himself.
>>34092331He is like 13 now right ? And SSX is 6
>>34092318i say return them to their mother
Rolled 65 (1d100)>>34090000And then she just makes fun of us when we do wake up. Best waifu.
>>34092360And how many times has the little kid grown up to come back and avenge his family?
>>34092610she only loves us for our Kettle>>34092686We might have to make sure he doesnt grow up
>>34092686Several with mixed results. Sun Quan is not as strong as sun ce, and he lacked some of Sun Jian's leadership. He's got some charisma and some intelligence, but if we take down the remaining sun worshipers and sun ce, he will lack the back bone to be a major threat.
>>34092727I thought you were going to say WAR score.
>>34092727>she only loves us for our KettleReminder that as far as we know, Lingqi hasn't met our lacquer lover
>>34092318We rolled pretty mediocre when we battled Zu Mao and we both wounded each other. We had 70-72 WAR at the time. So no he's not that good of a warrior. I actually think what's his face was Sun Ce's best warrior at this time.
>>34092821Really, Better than Cheng Pu ?
>>34092318Giving them to their mother would be the best option, though I think that Sun Shu is already with her mother
>>34092686>>34092727>>34092777It would also be really out of character for Zhu Xing to straight up murder children out of fear they might pose a threat 20 years down the line. Especially the children of a respected rival that he just slew.Zhu Xing has always been respectful of other warriors. He even gave a warrior's salute to Han Deng after he speared him.I expect that he will just have the children sent to their mother and have them taken care of as a sight of respect. If we are talking meta, Sun Quan will never be a threat to us. We are going to kill all of Sun clan supporters in this battle and his best hope is to become an administrator in Lu Bu's empire.
>>34092213If you want to win a siege without losing any of your men from scaling the walls, just surround the city for a few months, then launch bread over the walls.
>>34092910I was thinking the same thing, just camp around the city and send out a few men to take over the surrounding lands
>>34092837Historically Cheng Pu was a good warrior, but a better general and civil administrator. Han Dang was a much more accomplished warrior. In quest, we know that we were likely to lose to Cheng in thread 2, but could still put up a good fight. We had low 70s WAR at the time. In ROTK 11, Han Dang was 85 WAR and Cheng Pu has 79 WAR.
>>34092974So Cheng Pu should be fine then. What about Huang Gai ?
>>34092910>>34092960We should probably send scouts to try to find out how the other fronts are going. If Liu Bei gets crushed, Yuan Shu's army is probably going to head down south to relieve the city. >>3409300383 WAR in ROTK 11, so basically Han Dang tier
>>34093041Sounds doable. Also writing some of these ideas down so i can bring them up for the next quest
>>34093126It's debatable how useful any of this discussion will actually be. We spent several hundred posts coming up with force compositions before our talk with chen gong, and ended up throwing all of it away once we had different priorities. People have been talking about matchmaking/training our siblings forever, and nothing ever comes of it.
>>34093405That is true, but i'd like to atleast have some of us have a plan of some kind or we can just go back to arguing about creepy fanmail again
>>34093405I, I just want Yue to learn some strategy and marry one of our generals.
>>34093448But who am i kidding.. It is just going devolve into samefagging trying to still send Sun Ce letters.
>>34093550>in b4 "WHOEVER SUGGESTS SENDING A LETTER TO SUN CE AGAIN WILL MEET THE SAME FATE AS THIS TABLE!"
>>34093537But I want Yue to marry Zhang Zhao's son so she can have a cushy life and warn us of any domestic problems.We are going to duel for this.
>>34093624I think having the prospective husbands duel is more fitting. Zhang Zhao's kid vs Gao Shun, go.
>>34093647poetry competition please
>>34093550Hey now, we can't change the character's personality now. He is Zhu Xing, Sender of Creepy Fanmail.
>>34093673Use the Ku Shih style from the Song dynasty. Two stanzas should suffice.
>>34093624But if we keep marrying Yue to warriors that keep dying, she gets to wed more warriors. Besides, she can't get in any history books by living a cushy life.
>>34093674Lingqi is the tsundere general and Zhu Xing is a yandere general. a good match
>>34093550As long as it's super yandere i'd be ok with it.>Hey sun ce, how come you never return my letters>I was trying to reach you today and some guy stopped me so I threw a spear through his chest.>see you soon>love, zhu xing
>>34093674We sent one letter, and it wasn't that creepy.
>>34093727>Zhu Xing kills off all of Sun Ce.s general and companion out of jealousy
>>34093775>Sun Ce, now a broken man, tries to flee>Zhu Xing tracks him downNOW WE CAN BE TOGETHER FOREVER
>>34093820>>34093775This would had been the fate of Lu Bu if he hadnt accepted us
>>34093820His unwashed hairpiece will fit right in with Yumi and Window Boy!
>>34093820>Sun Ce cuts off his own arm in desperation> WAR drops down to low 80s>"Eh, suddenly lost all interest in you for some strange reason"
>>34093856Hey now, Yumi isn't just some slut who'll be worn by any man. She only has eyes for window boy.
>>34093870>Thus began the legend of the demon Zhu Xing, who would relentlessly pursue the greatest warriors of the land to their ruin.
>>34093848Lu Bu sempai would never have done such a thing. I wouldn't let him.
>>34093820And then Chen Gong uses our Yandere powers to slaughter Cao Cao's generals one by one. 'May Zhu Xing love your might' becomes a curse of death and misfortune.
>>34094050>we would become the reason chinese culture frowns upon exceptionalismI sort of want us to write letters now. So many letters.
>>34093900"Lord Ma Chao was found dead... with his mouth stuffed full of well-cooked noodles. We searched his private quarters and found many rather disturbing letters made out to him."
>>34094178He would be the Dynasty warrior character who shows up whenever you try to grind a level with a over powered character. Max stats, double buffs, musous everywhere, and he comes straight for you.
>>34094245>we would become 9ballhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoGMJHbV4WkI'm not gonna lie, this thought gives me a stiffy.