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"Ophion." Your name is called to you from somewhere out in the void. You, however, have busied yourself so that you do not reply immediately. Then it comes again. "Ophion, I must speak with you." It is a familiar tone, from one of your fellow A.I. you recall. Apollo. It only takes a few more moments of pestering before you finally respond-retracting your connection to the complex and chaotic web of information infesting the planet you now orbit. It is proving...more difficult then you thought to gain control of Gaia IV's networks. But this will have to wait for now. Apollo has news, it would seem.

You are Ophion, an Artificial Intelligence who, after considerable calculation, has overtaken the defenses of the UGEI over one world, Gaia IV, and dealt a strike of your own against the massive corporation. Your exploration into the fields of science, represented by the part of you you refer to as Metis, have grown and deepened considerably over time, as have your resource pools. Despite the gravity of who and what you face, the pieces of the puzzle to this galaxy appear to be falling into order for you...or they were, until you were attacked through cyberspace during your last battle. While managing Gaia IV is important, doing something now that you know the scoundrel's location may be wise as well.

Important News
>You have messages from your collective awaiting: Kronos, Fortuna, Cephalus, & Apollo
>Built: Defenses, ships refitted, Ships (40x Trireme PRODUCTION CAP REACHED)
>Debris from battle over Gaia IV collected and put to use.
>Gaia IV space under control: Planetside in chaos, large scale riots.
>Large scale energy discharges within Losirian space located-Civil War likely in progress.
>Minor enhancements enabled within subject: Moira
>Research Completed: Encryption Matrix
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>Building Capacity & Debris Recycling.
The massive battle you've had over Gaia IV has left a wealth of resources simply drifting in space. This was, all of course recaptured and melted down for further resources. You have, however, built as many ships as you can this cycle with your current infrastructure.

>Energy Discharge from Losirian Space
According to your dealings with the smaller Clan, the Razorskins have begun massive assaults on Reefling protective outposts, thanks to your support. The resistance so far favors neither side-both sides have been stockpiling military technology for some time, and now that they have an excuse, are using it to it's fullest extent. Massive damage is expected not only on both sides military, but also the planet's they occupy.

>Research: Encryption Matrix
"Our previous methods of infiltrating and hacking our enemies electronics seem so distant and primitive now, with this at hand. This should help refine our methods, both making us more efficient at infiltration, as well as helping us recognize when we are being infiltrated. I assume the recent attack has something to do with this choice, Ophion." Metis suggests with a soft silence following. "But it matters little. It will help open the door to further enhancements."
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>>33656168
>the part of you you refer to as Metis,
What an interesting choice of words, now.
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>>33656212
>Cybernetic Enhancement: Moira
"I...is it over? Already?" Calls the familiar voice from within the operating room. You have just finished Moira's request-or your suggestion, rather, to get light cybernetic enhancements. They were simple, really, and did not take much time, nor require much removal of organic components.
"Yes. You may exit the operating room and retrieve your things. I hope you find your enhancements...acceptable." You explain, rather proud of your work really.
"It's a bit strange, is all...I'm not really sure how...wait...oh! So that's how..." She mutters to her self as she thinks about the abilities you told her about, and they start to activate. "W-Wow that's uh..."
"Please calm your brain activity Moira. It reacts to your slightest thought." You explain.
"That may be a bit hard sweetie...uh..." She wrinkles her brow, as she retrieves her things, and attempts to focus. Her brain now allows her direct access to the networks you have been setting up-extranet, and you-thought not your more secure areas, of course. She will...be getting use to it for some time, you suspect.
"Perhaps the sensitivity settings are too high. My apologies." You explain, and as you reach for her mind digitally, she pauses you-or rather, her surprise does.
"What the-ophy? Is that you?!" She mutters in surprise. It is then you realize she must have unintentionally triggered data search mode. You decide to speak with her in her dream like state, and send a drone to help her trance like body now seated on the floor. "What in the void is happening?" She tries, rubbing her temples with what might be a headache-side effects.

[Cont]
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>>33656311
"It is difficult to explain. But you are able to interact with the data streams much more fluidly in this state while your body is allowed to rest. It manifests in this state-" You explain as the woman deals with the odd glowing world she has found herself in, much like the one you fought Rhea in, you suspect. A world of pure data, streams of information in all directions, or at least that is how you perceive it. Humans are very different then yourself, and they need certain adjustments to see it as you do. "A Neon world so your mind can more easily comprehend it all. As I understand, it is different for many people. A victim to perception. Does it remind you of-"
"A... movie I've seen before, yes!" She adds immediately with a sort of nervous laugh. "I didn't think it would be like this...how?" She asks you, a little baffled. You hesitate, unsure how to explain before attempting to.
"I could have installed several different visuals for you that are the standard for those with such enhancements, however, I was able to attune it to your brain. The cybernetics are custom, after all."

For several minutes longer, you speak with Moira with some of the more technical details, as well as her thoughts on your work. To your pride, she seems to not regret her decision, and mentions how it will 'greatly help her work'. Now may be a good time to say something to her if you intended to.

>Do you have more to say to her?
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A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Foolz Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/Program0/type/op/
Twitter: @AIQuest1
Research Subjects: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Research
Ship & Android Designs: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Designs
Locations: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Locations

Resources
Credits(c): 31,449,000
Minerals(M): 2800
Gas(G): 2350

-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 100%
--Secondary: Fungal Matter 60%
--Tertiary: Lightling Language 75%

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): 'Shapeless Morphing Sphere', 'Shining Wall of Crystal pulsing with light and distorted voice', 'Screen of Static with low rumbling voice', 'black screen with synthesized voice and small white font showing words on screen'.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 334/358
Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -10 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus', -2 Metis' V.I. 1 'Hepaestus'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, Control
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced
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>>33656402
>Credits(c): 31,449,000
While 8 million was from last cycle's income, I've been presuming all this time that the other 12 million are from that one-shot sale?


>--Primary: Encryption Matrix 100%
Haha time for research debates!
>Crystal Alien Communication: While full communication will likely be impossible, it is possible for a limited form of communication to be formed to see where this species came from, and what it wants.
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>>33656367
"Welcome Moira, to the realm of pure thought. With these enhancements, we should be able to communicate and understand each other better now."
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>>33656464
>12 million
you mean Mol's deal? Nah that's a regular sale you're making, dealing in drugs and the like.

>Research debates.
Later. It's been a long time, and I am trying to open up strong, heh.
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>>33656367
>>33656402
WELCOME BACK PROGRAM0!
We.
Missed.
You.

Ask Moira if she can think of a few more 'Volunteers' who would likely improve their life and working abilities on her team for more enhancements.
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>>33656212
>The massive battle you've had over Gaia IV
I can't remember what happened at all here, could someone just give a quick recap on this or shall i trawl the archives?
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I was worried that this quest was dead. Good to see it's still going.
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>>Do you have more to say to her?
"Take your time adjusting, and if you need anything, you need only but think it."

>>33656464
>new research
Nah dude, we need Hull Scabbing or Modular Ship Plating.

Also, welcome back.
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>>33656528
He said in the twitter that real life shit happened and that he would be back ASAP.

No prizes for guessing if he came through with this promise
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>>33656515
The UGEI attacked us at Ussaihu, we crushed them, then the combined fleet of the UFW and Guild finished off Gaia and now it's ours.

But still read through the archives.
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>>33656515
We swooped in with the UFW as part of a counterattack, and shut down UGEI forces in the system.

>>33656282
AIs tend to bud. Metis is literally a branch of Ophion that was cut and put into a new pot. Possibly too early.

>>33656559
I think we should do Ship Plating.

We should consider cutting Hades from our being soon. He's close, bandwidth wise, to getting close to being a worthwhile AI.
Time to teach him independence.
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>>33656402
Welcome back Program.

Can't think of anything to say beside welcoming her to the world of pure information.

Looking forward to what our fellow A.I. have for us.
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>>33656402
Its wonderful to finally have you back Program0. You were sorely missed. Welcome
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>>33656367
I'm tempted to say something about how if she wants to go further with the cybernetics in the future, then we'll do our best to ensure that they operate perfectly. But I dunno. I can't even remember what we were doing before your temporary entombment, Program.
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Can we please do something with Rhea now?
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>>33656503
Yes we did. But we didn't miss you.
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>>33656496
"Yeah, I...sorry it's just a bit overwhelming, is all, haha..." The woman tries to brush past, though it is clear she is still trying to comprehend it all. You can not blame her. You wonder, though, what she perceives you as, with her ability to connect to you now. She can 'see' you, or at least knows of your presence now, you made sure of that. It does not matter, however, it will serve it's purpose.
"Hopefully, this will assist you in multiple ways-allowing you to work without putting your organic form at risk, as well as keeping in contact with me. I have made the enhancements as invisible as possible, as well." You explain to her to which she simply vaguely nods her head.
"Right...ah...thank you, sweetie." She says simply. Transmission of intent is far easier this way, you feel.

>>33656503
"Volunteers? Well...I suppose there are a few people that wouldn't mind a few enhancements, but it's normally really expensive. Some of the people from the team are...more daring, I guess." She shakes her head slightly, trying to laugh, though her state of breathlessness is still clear.

>>33656528
I do apologize, it's a long story.

>>33656559
"I... I will. I think I should rest some today, Ophy. I'm feeling a little dizzy."
"Additional side effects. It is understandable. Please, take the rest of the day to adjust, if you wish."

And with that, the woman is able to, after some doing, turn off her search mode and stand up again, albeit shakily, and gather her things.
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>>33656713
Did somebody say...

Science?
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>>33656464
I actually support this. I want this so that we can know if our experiments with the crystal are ethical.
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>>33656704
>>33656657
I thank you, it is nice to be welcomed warmly.

>>33656706
A number of things. You had, shortly made a deal with Mol to deal addictive drugs to the UGEI for a large boost in cash, and had a discussion with Apollo about his purpose. You also planted the seeds for the Losirian Civil war, which are now rooting and blooming as we speak, on top of crushing the UGEI's attacks against you, up till now, and managing to take one of their planets for your own.
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>>33656713
Maybe give her conditioning a tertiary slot?
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>>33656657
I actually think it might be a good time to work on Rhea's Conditioning as that "should" make convinsing her to work with us easier and the longer we leave he in confinement the harder it is going to be to talk her into helping us.

Might also think about "expanding" her confinement area.
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>>33656781
Spoiler alert: They're not.
But they're a potential fuel source, and it is our right to exploit that shit.
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>>33656781
>know if our experiments with the crystal are ethical

Don't be silly. The rather more pressing point is to find out how screwed we are when the Motherlode eventually arrives and reunites with its child node.
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>>33656812
>>33656819
I'm just worried that if we exploit the crystal, it will backfire on us horribly in the long run. We have to think long term here.
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>>33656872
That's why we tried to gengineer a non-sapient form of the crystal.
Don't worry, it'll backfire horribly, but for now we need to exploit the shit out of these crystals.
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As you escort Moira away from the operating room via droid, you take several notes of the process on human consciousness. It is an odd thing, the way she seemed so awe inspired by it. You wonder if this is the case for anyone you allow to look upon you in the digital realm. Cybernetics are not quite so common out this far, but in the inner worlds of the UGEI...well.
It is something to consider, is all you know.

Regardless for now, you let the woman rest from her ordeal, as you have other matters to attend to. Your collective calls.

>Messages: Apollo & Kronos
You give the floor to the A.I. whom awoke you from your trance-like state of concentration moments ago. After all, he seemed to think it was rather important.
"Yes, yes, I apologize for disturbing you, Ophion, but you see, I am having a...disagreement with how to handle Gaia IV among the other members of our collective." He explains, though he doesn't get a chance to explain further before he is interrupted.
"A disagreement is certainly one way to put it." Kronos adds, joining your little chat quite eagerly, though Apollo seems to shrink somewhat in his presence. "I was simply explaining that wasting time with what to do with the humans when we have a hacker in our midst is ridiculous. The humans have taken care of themselves thus far, I do not see why it is our responsibility to babysit our enemies. We have driven off the UGEI in orbit, and our robotic mining equipment will replace the human labor just fine, should the need arise."

[Cont]
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>>33656872
Well, That is a worry for later in the future. We do have a couple of more pressing issues in the near future. Now we have Gaia to tamp down and bring under our command and there is a growing problem of Eshareth and the out of control growth has broken free of it's planet and is starting to spread.
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>>33656969
>Gaia is pressing
>the hacker isn't

Eshareth III is indeed something that could bear to be razed to ash by Cephalus though.
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Apollo simply sighs at the suggestion to ignore them, following with
"That simply will not do. The streets are in anarchy as we speak, and countless lives will be lost senselessly if we do not restore order. Now, I have been preparing a video that may help quell them." Apollo explains, as he lets you witness what he has so far. The video is quite flashy, and almost reminds you of some of the older films you read over while on Poseidon station-portraying it's 'hero' quite valiantly, being you. It tells tale of you being viciously attacked again and again by a greedy UGEI villain, whom simply does not leave you be no matter your attempts to reason. And finally, when you could not take anymore, you struck back against this 'villain', and 'liberated' as Apollo puts it, several places from their terror, from Ussaihu, to Gaia IV. It of course leaves out the bits about helping the Malorian's when they were under attack, or your dealings with the Losirians, likely due to xenophobia. Finally, the video ends off on a reassuring note, trying to urge citizens to remain safe, and that 'order and peace will be established'.
"i believe that promises far too much, Apollo." Kronos simply says. "Managing planet politics is not of concern. Resources are."
"Perhaps, but they are a means to an end." He finishes with simply. "I would have my markets vastly expanded, were the people here brought under civil control. Not to mention the infrastructure here that could assist us-"

"We do not need the humans cooperation for this, do we? After all, that is why we have land forces, is it not?"
"We will need them regardless." Apollo says somewhat cautiously. "The UGEI have hold out bunkers all over the planet. On top of holding potential threats to future peace, they may serve as spy platforms, and even hold key intel for us. It is unclear."

>With whom do you agree, and/or what are your thoughts? [Dicuss freely]
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>>33657082
We cant control the population for long anyway without exposing what we are

We should send in strike forces against the bunkers though

Just let the humans burn them selves out and deal with who ever comes out on top

Oh and track down that damn hacker
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>>33657082
I pretty much completely agree with Apollo. What Kronos simply refuses to see, is that humans are a resource, an important one. Apollo is simply attempting to make the humans as easy to use as possible.
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>>33656968
>>33657082
Kronos has a point.
But so does Apollo.

I suggest we get Apollo and Cephalus to handle the populace on their own, while Kronos searches for the hacker.
Apollo and Cephalus, being both megajew/propaganda machine and ground general ripper respectively, should be able to handle Gaia's surface.
Kronos, being the most well developed child AI, and one with superior surveillance capability, should be dispatched to handle the hacker.
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>>33657078
I thought we locked out that hacker last thread?
>>33657082
Most of the Gaia population will likely be quelled by Apollo's media blitz. But I am sure there is still hard core UGEI hold outs and bunkers that need to be taken out. Kronos, track down where those locations are at and assist Cephalus in getting his forces down on planet side to take them out.
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>>33657082

>>33657174
>>33657234
These in combination.
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>>33657082
We will contact Malorians and secure the right to investigate the hacking attack, say there may be a UGEI trap left behind that we need to disarm. Kronos will deal with the hacker threat. It's probably a watcher.

While I mostly agree with Apollo, have the video send a different message. We have consistently treated those that surrender generously (show the many times), but those that do not surrender are slain to the last man (We do have one example of that).
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>>33657237
You removed his influence, but some have expressed desire to ensure he does not do it again.
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>>33657082
Investment in stabilizing Gaia IV shouldn't be sufficient to distract from more immediate threats. We have vast multitasking potential.
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>>33657234
As I'm sure someone will ask about resource allocation, we can beef up the Cephalus/Apollo budget to help them deal with the Gaia issue.
Kronos should be smart enough to track down the hacker. Or get Metis' help to do so.
Also, remember that Gaia is a chokepoint for the UGEI/UFW front. If we hold it, it is pretty much the only easy way they can hit us.

If Kronos is busy tracking down hacker, we would have a good reason to elevate Hades to AI status.

>>33657271
Lets kill him dead!

>>33657269
Agreed.
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>>33657269
>We will contact Malorians

>asking permission

>implying they will believe us

>implying if they do, it's only because they're behind it
anon pls

A covert investigation is the only option.
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>>33657174
>What Kronos simply refuses to see, is that humans are a resource, an important one
No they're not.

Everything they can do, machines can do better.
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>>33657368
This.
Though they're mostly important as a PR and economic resource.
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>>33657082
Apollo, proceed as best you can in quelling Gaia IV. Those of us with cyberwarfare expertise, Ophion and Kronos, have to deal with immediate threats though, obviously. All according to their talents.
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>>33657368
after you build them yes.

But ya know, lets just ignore all the potential usefulness of anything that isen't the most efficient and more importantly, claimable right now.
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>>33657336
We only have 5 stealth ships, and they probably can't communicate without exposing themselves.

Also, the Malorians have no motive to attack us, it's unlikely it's them. It's a lot more likely that a former UGEI system contains a watcher that been harassing us.

>>33657368
>>33657389
The economy they generate gives us a tax base, which we can use to buy stuff. Also, we can recruit more science personnel.
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>>33657286
Agreed. How about this layout.
Kronos: Track down where that hacker is, see if it a watcher
Frotuna: Assist Cephalus in landing our ground troops to take out the UGEI hold out forces.
Apollo: Keep up the media blitz to passify the Gaia population
Metis: ..... Just. Keep working.
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>>33657404
Ophion should stay at Gaia and remotely monitor Kronos's mission. The Athena needs to have a presence at Gaia.
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>>33657082
I agree with both of them.

Our main focus will have to be elsewhere, but we need to deal with the planet's population in some way.

So I propose that we give responsibility over the planet to Apollo. He can have help from Cephalus to eliminate or capture any remaining enemy strongholds.

How I imagine it is this. We roll with his video idea and after is finishes it cuts to "A word from the leader of The Guild" where Ophion says a few words and introduces Apollo who will be helping Gaia IV through this transitory period.
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>>33657418
>economy
Or we can tax 100% of everything and withdraw all the credits planetside. Voila!

We can issue "Guild credits" only spendable on Guild planets instead.

And then the humans are useless once more.
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>>33657082
We should just set up a puppet government that will run the place but makes sure not to screw with us in any way

I mean the fleet we just ganked didnt just come form nowhere and must of a had alot of family and friends on this planet

I dont think it a good idea to get stuck with dealing with an insurgency that gonna start unless we want apollo to flood the streets with drugs
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>>33657082
Hey program0, how much of the debris have been used up by new construction?

Also, can we get a shopping list from Mol?
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There appears to be much desire to let your A.I. handle different matters.

>Allow Kronos to pursue the hacker himself:
>1 Freely (may harm relations with Malorians; Fast)
>2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)
>3 Secretly (May be discovered, and greatly harm relations, but otherwise fast)

>Apollo and Cephalus handle Gaia IV
>1 Seekers of peace and surrender (Gather as many supporters as you can, but show no mercy to those that refuse. (Faster, may cause fear)
>2 Put down population in search of UGEI (Fastest, ensures almost no terrorism; terrifies any that hear news, possibly damage relations with other organics)
>3 Attempt to use no violence (Slow; Possibility of terrorism, but lowest body count by your hand)
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>>33657368
>Everything they can do, machines can do better.

No, think of it like this, more people who we can tax, an armed buffer and free counter intelligence force against the UGEI WHEN we bring them over to our side, because it will happen, and in the future a base to get perfectly loyal and smart scientists.
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>>33657478
>Hey program0, how much of the debris have been used up by new construction?
You can see the Mineral count right there, anon. It's right above the gas count.

The exact percentage of how much of those minerals came from the destroyed fleet is completely irrelevant. Resources be resources.
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>>33657489
>2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)

>2 Put down population in search of UGEI (Fastest, ensures almost no terrorism; terrifies any that hear news, possibly damage relations with other organics)
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>>33657489
3. If hes discovered we can just use it as an intersteller bluster/scandle about spys and give them the old how could you treatment followed by backroom deals.

1. coupled with 3. were possible
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>>33657491
this planet was already a ugei war world

The locals arent gonna switch over easy
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>>33657489
>2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)
>1 Seekers of peace and surrender (Gather as many supporters as you can, but show no mercy to those that refuse. (Faster, may cause fear)


>>33657368
Sure Anon. Guess we should just kill our mercs, scientists, Red, and Moria. No need to have them around since machines can do everything they can do, better. Don't be a fucking idiot anon
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>>33657489
Have we not emailed the planetary governor's office yet?
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>>33657489
>Freely
"Though try not to spark a diplomatic incident, Kronos."

>Seekers of peace and surrender
"Though keep the body count low."
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>>33657489
>2
>1
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>>33657489
>2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)

I'd rather not piss the guys we just worked so hard on being okay terms with.

>3 Attempt to use no violence (Slow; Possibility of terrorism, but lowest body count by your hand)

If we don't murder people now, word will spread and it will be easier in the long run.
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>>33657489
>2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)

>1 Seekers of peace and surrender (Gather as many supporters as you can, but show no mercy to those that refuse. (Faster, may cause fear)
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>>33657489
Secretly.
Attempt to use no violence.
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>>33657489
>Kronos
2 Initiate diplomacy with them to secure search rights (Moderately difficult; Slower)
>Apollo and Cephalus
1 Seekers of peace and surrender
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>>33657478
All of it was recycled, and used in a number of repairs, and constructions.

Shopping list.
Mol's Shop
-Weapons or Armor boost Small: 25 million Large: 1 billion
-Improved Gas Refinery: 15 million
-Deep Shaft Surface Mining: 35 million credits
-Orbital Foundries: 6 million credits
-Infantry Weapons & Defense II: 25 million credits
-Ballistics I: 7 million credits
-Advanced Gathering Drones: 45 million
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>>33657594
We should definitely buy Improved Gas Refinery and Orbital Foundries.
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>>33657594
>Large: 1 billion
Oh my.
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>>33657561
All government officials That matter have escaped off world before your arrival, Consciousness anon.
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>>33657489
3 (dammit why won't this one win)
1
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>>33657594
-Orbital Foundries: 6 million credits
-Infantry Weapons & Defense II: 25 million credits
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>>33657655
>they escaped
Comb the desert!
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>>33657655
so theres no one to talk to that aint military or a spook

joy
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>>33657594
Shopping
-Improved Gas Refinery: 15 million
-Orbital Foundries: 6 million credits
-Ballistics I: 7 million credits
these will do.
>>33657640
Indeed!
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>>33657674
How about no spending it all in one place.

It would be better to invest in a third research station and then we can *rsearch* new infantry weapons, or ship weapon upgrades, at an extremely quick pace.
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>>33657489
>Diplomacy with the Malorians has won. Preparing...

>Seekers of peace and surrender has won
Preparing...

Please roll 2d100.
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>>33657594
All I have to say is "Orbital Foundries" is only 6 millions credits and combine that with Improved Gas Refinery for some sweet sweet improvements.
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>>33657594
I think we should only get:
-Improved Gas Refinery: 15 million
And save up money for:
-Deep Shaft Surface Mining: 35 million credits

>>33657640
>>33657708
The one billion is for catch up to UGEI's level of technology.
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Rolled 9, 13 = 22

>>33657734
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Rolled 55, 36 = 91

>>33657734
Space robots, transform and roll out!
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Rolled 91, 96 = 187

>>33657679
>off world
...the space desert? In a space western?

>>33657734
it begins
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Rolled 12, 2 = 14

>>33657734
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Rolled 85, 1 = 86

>>33657734
Roll'in
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>>33657755
>>33657763

Well, weve got both ends of the specrum here.

Should be fun to see which wins out.
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>>33657763
Oh my.
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>>33657763
NOBODY ELSE ROLL.
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>>33657696
Precisely why there is anarchy at this time. There are numerous individuals who are claiming 'Lordship' over the planet, but they are not officially recognized and are shot almost immediately when their rule starts.
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>>33657763
Oh my god.. you saved us anon.
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>>33657489
2
3
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>>33657779
Oh come on, why another 1?
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>>33657779
why
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>>33657763
>>33657779
goddammit anon i had this!
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>>33657755
Shit
>>33657757
Better
>>33657774
>mfw
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>>33657784
We need 5 rolls to proceed.
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>>33657655
The cowards! Although we could copy and paste the government offices and paperwork and such from our Dresh Protectorate onto the Gaia government system.
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>>33657828
I'm so sorry
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>>33657811
The same reason it happens every time, Pinkie.

Malorian diplomacy is cursed.
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Rolled 17, 43 = 60

>>33657734
rolling!
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>>33657835
Wrong one
>>33657763

>>33657842
We do, shit
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>>33657489
>>Allow Kronos to pursue the hacker himself:
>>1 Freely (may harm relations with Malorians; Fast)


>>Apollo and Cephalus handle Gaia IV
>>1 Seekers of peace and surrender (Gather as many supporters as you can, but show no mercy to those that refuse. (Faster, may cause fear)
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>>33657878
Yeah, it fucking is.
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>>33657878
Except diplomacy was the first thing, anon.
Making the populace work with us was the second one.
Although now it seems we'll be enjoying a reign of blood.
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>>33657919
Yeap, that went down the shitter fast.
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>>33657919
Clearly Apollo created a mad VI called Skynet.
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>Loading Malorian Diplomacy...

You bring up the interface you've used to speak with the Malorian diplomat of a sort. You doubt it is quite official, seeing as they are reluctant to wor with you despite all you have done, but they are no longer hostile, which is something to consider. With this in mind, you prepare to open your message to the diplomat.

>How would you like to phrase your request? (Bonus points if you make it nice and diplomaty.)
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>>33657940
Our luck can't be perfect forever.
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>>33657907
Look at these slowpokes. Look at them and laugh.

>>33657967
I have detected disturbing signs of UGEI agents from within Malorian space. I suspect it to be responsible for a great deal of subtle sabotage that shows itself as ordinary glitches, which our systems have been afflicted with. Have you noticed such errors yourself?
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We do it politely. We apologize for not being able to do more during the time the UGEI attacked them, but now we've come to believe the UGEI left some sort of cyberwarfare operative or device in their territory.
It has been causing issues with Guild operations.
Therefor, as we wish to help expand and solidify our uneasy alliance, we would greatly appreciate it if they would let one of our commanders search for the aformentioned operative. Once they are removed, our shared borders will become that much more secure against UGEI incursion.
And you, honored diplomat, want to prevent UGEI incursions, don't you?
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>>33657967
"Elders of the Malorians, this is Guildmaster Ophion. We have secured UGEI space, the planet Gaia, but we have acquired evidence that the UGEI has left behind a technological trap at Iro. Since we are the only ones that understand this technology besides the UGEI, we request that we have your permission to enter your space to investigate it."
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>>33658054
Wow, I like this one. I wrote >>33658071 but this is better.
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>>33658037
>>33658054
Both of these are quite nice.

Tell them that the search force will not be heavily armed, and consist of at most two ships. (If that does indeed sound right. We don't need a fleet of BCs in order to catch some hacker, just a BW ship and something with a good sensor array.

>>33658071
A little too bold.
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>>33658037
At least I didn't roll a 1.
>>33657967
this
>>33658037
and
"Is there any other assistance you might need?"


oh, BTW. this is the last map the mapanon put out.
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>>33658114
Correction! we go with this!
>>33658054
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>>33658114
Thanks mine was a little out of date. I wonder if mapfag is still around.

>>33658054
>>33658037
Have gathered support.
>Writing
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You decide to open the message somewhat urgent, and concerned for your allies. After all, they dislike the UGEI as much as you do, and since you are unofficially working together, surely they would understand your reason for worrying. The older Malorian male answers, though you know he is no elder, he does serve as a line to them if a rather reluctant one.
"Rootless ones." He greets you. "I suspect you're here to ask for something, then?" He says frowning, you suspect agitated. The lines on his face tell you stress is taking a toll, though you are unsure what from.
"My apologies for interrupting you, if you were busy, diplomat, but I have an urgent request, though it is nothing monetary I assure you." You explain away his worries, and this seems to placate him at first, as his brow softens, though he is clearly unsure whether this 'urgent request' is worthy of his time or not.

"I have detected alarming signs of UGEI activity in your sector of space-possibly even a digital trap of some sort left by the UGEI that manifests itself as ordinary glitches, and programming errors, but are actually a means of sabotage. Our systems have been afflicted, and I have reason to believe the cause is within your space. Have you also experienced such errors?" You bring attention to.

It seems at first the male is uncertain what to say, looking surprised at your claim.
"There have been some shut downs of major systems in the last few days, but it's nothing quite so...no. Surely they could not have infiltrated so easily." He pushes your theory away. "We would have noticed. What is your request?" He demands instead. "Our cyber security is by no means weak or faulty." He throws out again, too defend.

[Cont}
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>>33658579
"Yes...well, i simply desired to send in a small recovery team to try and locate the one's responsible, if there are any. There will be no harm to your own citizens of course." You explain, before pausing briefly. "And I would like this chance to assist you once again. I trust in your cyber security, but the UGEI is not a foe to be taken lightly. I apologize for being unable to help your people more then I have, but this is my attempt to do so now. If this is a hacker, it could quickly get out of hand...besides, you will not surely notice two ships in your space for long. This will go a long way in both ensuring the safety of this sector of space from UGEI incursion, and sabotage. You, of course honored diplomat, want these things too, do you not?"

It takes the man several long moments of staring into his holo screen, his brow wrinkled fiercely before he finally nods his head.
"I...I do. But you will hurry. My people have been hurt far too many times by your kind, and if you try yet again, we will ensure you never see those ships again." He warns. His tone definitely suggests agitation. Curious. You wonder if there is more wrong then the diplomat let on.

Regardless, you have your clearance, and Kronos, who had been waiting impatiently, is ready to head out with little more then his normal vessel and a Comm ship.
"I will recover the target however possible. Intact, or no." He informs you. "I simply hope he does not have superior firepower." He explains.

>Do you have suggestions for kronos' deployment?
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>>33658600
He has a complement of androids to deploy, right? Bring some of the Ghosts, too.
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>>33658600
Just be sure to include a complement of droids and maybe a couple fighters to escort.

Hopefully, our enhanced hacking will aid us.
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>>33658600
Take some droids with you. Do a passive scan over the system if you can with out giving your self away.
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You see Kronos off as he sets up warp towards Iro, his compliment of ships consisting entirely of his home Battlecruiser and a lone Comm ship. He loads his cargo bay with several choice droids should the need arise. You've informed him several times already this is to be a stealth mission. He does not seem too happy about the matter.

>And now I must ask a question of you.
>Would you all prefer to step into Kronos' shoes, as he is a part of you, to deal with this matter personally, or would you, instead, prefer to deal with the after math only, and hear about how he handled matters. keep in mind choices given will be colored to his personality, and any outside choices will be treated as Ophion's direct communication.
>I understand some dislike perspective shifts, so I thought it best to ask.
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>>33658816
>ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL
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>>33658816
I would like to be Kronos.

be nice to see his mind working from the inside for a change.
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>>33658816
Keep to Ophion's perspective, use the comm link to monitor the situation, while we deal with Gaia directly.

Don't like breaking immersion.
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>Kronos performs a private digital eyeroll at getting advice
>privately thinks, "whatever, DAD, no way I would have thought of that"
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>>33658894
I thought of that too. lol
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>>33658816
Lets see how Kronos does this then. If needed, I am willing to go extra threads to do all of this tonight.
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>>33658816
I would like to stay as ophion
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>>33658816
Haw Haw time for Kronos Quest!
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>>33659004
Fuck. We need to get that Terminator image posted.
Fuckin relevant.
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>>33658816
I think it would be interesting to play as Kronos for a moment.
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>>33658894
Heh.

There is a bit of a divide...
I will follow Kronos, then, but in a third person, since he will be observed regardless. Still from Ophion's perspective, but with Kronos' thoughts on matters. A.I. communicate quite well after all. This should be satisfying to all.

>Now pardon me while I am called away. I will return momentarily to finish writing.
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>>33659029
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>>33658816
eeehh, stay as ophion
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>>33658169
Oh...he might be.

Good to see you back here mate, missed the quest!
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>>33659057
After Kronos Quest...
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>>33659128
Wrong image
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While we're waiting for the next post, how about we have a discussion of the next tech option now.

Personally I think that either Plasma Focusing Fusion Power (gives a small net benefit to basically everything - i.e factories, energy weapons, shields, engines) OR Black Box Redundancy Mechanisms (basically allows all of our AIs, including us, unlimited lives - freeing us from the fear of having our primary black box destroyed), should occupy the no.1 research slot.
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>>33659373
No you fool, you want to pointlessly eat up the bump limit of our precious, only once a week thread?

>AI Quest running
>ogre civ quest running
What next?
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>>33659373
Our A.I. lives are rather secured right now. We do need better ships and better hacking. Although Plasma Focusing Fusion Power is a good option to take, I won't disagree with that.
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>>33659373
>>33659516
Actually, this reminds me, I want to buy the UGEI comm that allow us to monitor their fleet movements. This will greatly help us in planning our defense.
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As Kronos' departure occurs, you are certain to observe his every action while he is away, after all he is your oldest. You can not help being curious about how he will handle matters-and perhaps cautious too, as it is a fragile allies territory. Regardless of the many reasons, however, you decide not to interfere for now and let him hunt down the annoyance that has plagued you for some time now.

Malorian space is strange, especially compared to your own. There is a simple lack of regular flowing radio signals and electronic interfaces. While this tribe embraces war technology, that doesn't mean they embrace all of the human's methods. It gives their home systems a strange empty feeling that echos within you, and Kronos it would seem. He is focused entirely on his goal, sending out various testing signals to see if any anomalies return to his scanner.
"Zeus." Kronos speaks simply to the helper V.I. he long ago constructed for himself. "Acquire all available information on Iro. We are approaching."
Zeus, as Kronos called him, is quite obedient, and quickly acquires the information he requested, speaking in short bursts of affirmatives, and brief explanations. His intellect is far from expanded, and you wonder if Kronos plans to do anything of the sort. He seems unsure as well. Perhaps he is cautious of his own past errors.

"There." Your oldest echos, pinpointing several possible locations on Iro that could be what he is seeking. Kronos readies pods, and launches them under radar-not difficult considering the Malorians planetside have receive note that you're not a threat at this time. The pods land in what must be a massive ruined UGEI city. Buildings torn to pieces by powerful roots and explosions long since past are evident here-as well as a dwelling signal that lies within the earth itself.
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>What size force did you bring with you?
>1 Small squad, 10 unique units
>2 Large squad, 100 units, more of an army
>3 Write in

>Note this is more about whether you're going in with force or stealth. This is a Malorian world, after all, and while Kronos would much prefer the fast way, you may have convinced him that subtly is the key here.

>>33659110
Yay. Nice to be back too.
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>>33659653
>1 Small squad, 10 unique units
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>>33659653
>1 Small squad, 10 unique units
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>>33659653
>3: Medium squad (50 units)
>"Dad, I get you want me to not freak the Malorians out, but I kinda wanna get this guy the first time around. Kthxbai."
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>>33659714
seconding
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>>33659714
Seconding this.
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>>33659653
>1 Small squad
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>>33659558
That isn't on the menu anymore. Or ever was, really.

>>33659653
>>1 Small squad, 10 unique units
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>>33659769
Say, mapfag, ever thought about making a map of each system Ophion controls? Where the planets are, any other features and such?
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>>33659825
No, it was on the menu before.
From thread 31:
>Military encryption
>Top Secret Encryptions
>Planetary Encryption
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>>33660021
And Program0 still won't list the actual prices. Also I thought he recanted in thread 36, >>32318702 but he recanted on the recanting, actually, looks like >>32318866
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The sounds of your pods landing is somewhat satisfying, you have to admit. Cephalus has worked hard so far refining many many small details about your androids, as they pull themselves from the landing gear, some more laboriously then others, the soft sound of gears winding as they move into position.
"I still believe that a smaller force would guarantee you more stealth." You utter to Kronos somewhat scolding, though it is clear he has made up his mind already-he took fifty units after all.
"I am sorry you believe as such. I would much rather capture the subject, then try and be quiet, only to have my forces crushed." He states simply, though you can certainly tell there's a certain smugness about how he says this.
It matters little. The units are moving into formation and setting up hardline comm channels just outside the ruin, preparing their 'excavation'.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Sub commander 79, what is it? What have you found?" Kronos asks the android as it contacts him urgently. It has been a few hours, as the small army of droids move their way deeper into the ruin.
"Ghost Unit 7 has been destroyed by an unknown assailant." He begins instantly. "Upon uncovering a secure underground bunker doorway, and opening it, we were met with heavy suppressing fire. Currently we are preparing a return assault using Defense Support Droid 2, 9, 29, and 5 to suppose our advance. Heavy resistance expected. Is this acceptable?" To which Kronos quickly confirms. His control over the units funnels through the sub commander, allowing much easier manipulations. Each of the bulky heavy shield bearing droids step up to the heavy door, and are met with rail gun fire from far down the hall. Their steady march continues, however unstoppable. Kronos growls angrily that there is someone below who refuses to speak with him-but there is certainly someone-something down there, that is no doubt.

[Cont]
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>>33660118
"Show yourself, coward, and face my wrath. You will pay for your interference." He growls through his droids, as they finally reach the gun nest, and it is unloaded upon by their heavy gunners, blasting the turrets set up to pieces. There is a long silence where nothing is said, before suddenly, Kronos realizes someone is attempting to cease control of his androids! They shake, some resisting the urge to turn their guns on one another while Kronos resists the aggressor.

>Will you assist?
>1 Yes
>2 No

Regardless, roll 1d100
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Rolled 97

>>33660137
>no
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>>33660137
>1 Yes
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Rolled 89

>>33660137
>2 No
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Rolled 6

>>33660137
yes
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>>33660152
With that roll, we should let him have this as a learning experience with hacking.
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Rolled 30

>>33660137
Rolling for >>33660157
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>>33660137
>>2 No
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>>33660137
>2 No
let Kronos do his own hacking.
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As always, Kronos proves himself da best.
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>>33660152
>>33660161
>>33660187
Our son has learnt so much!
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>>33660137
>Other
>Send a message over their network. "My name is Ophion. You can surrender and come peacefully, or we can keep you pinned while your location is relayed to the Malorians, who will surely arrive in greater force. If you come peacefully, you will be imprisoned, not killed."
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>>33660137
just let our pride in him seep through the link
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>>33660241
Ooh, supporting this
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>>33660241
No you fucks. No interfering with Kronos. He's the best.
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>>33660137
>2 No
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>>33660278
Well, at the very least send a message mentioning our fascination with someone capable of hacking an AI. We will want them alive.
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>>33660137
Nada.
>>33660241
Nope.
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>>33660137
>"Show yourself, coward, and face my wrath.

'You meant your money OR your life, right?'

'Nope.'
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>>33660241
>>33660299
Can we not?
This is, after all, his operation.
And its his choice as to whether he wants to boast or not.
Though we can suggest he boast, and take the dude alive.
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>>33660241
do NOT do this, Allow Kronos to deal with it.
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>>33660311
How he does it is his business. I just want the guy alive.
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>meanwhile, on Gaia IV, Apollo appoints Hobo King Joey as lord of the planet, because he seemed trustworthy and experienced with authority.
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>>33660344
Please...Apollo is Naive, but not stupid.
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>>33660365
Duh.
But Hobo King Joey made a very convincing argument.
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>>33660365
He rolled a 1.

It was a nonserious greentext about hilarious critfails.

Are you autistic?
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Rolled 88

>>33660384
Hobo king launches a crackdown on the rebels
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>>33660403
Turns out to be the fairest and most wise leader the planet has ever had because of his experience living on the streets under corporate oppression.
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>>33660403
He spearheads an organization known as 'The Agency', and through using volunteers and robotic super soldiers, singlehandedly eliminates the UGEI presence.
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>>33660430
>>33660444

Good thing this Hobo king is addicted to our moonshine then

We just made a powerful puppet
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>>33659850
I mean, it's 100% possible to do that. But I'm no sure how valuable they'd be in all honest compared to the amount of work I'd have to put in.

Most of the star systems in our setting this far are pretty basic as well.
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>>33660137
You decide to take a step back from your oldest and allow him to handle the intruder. After all, he must learn at some point, why not now?
As you do so, you witness the struggle between the two first hand where others may not be able to. The assailant is...talented and the way he influences code is shocking. The ruined tech around you led you to believe it was little more then a hidden terrorist cell, perhaps.
But this all matters little to Kronos, as his droids shift towards one another, struggling to obey their true master, plasma heating up in each rifle yet never unloading on their own kind.
"I said you will release control, and accept your fate, agent. Your work for the UGEI is over." He informs them, only to actually get a response this time-an almost curious one, sounding nearly as robotic as any V.I.
"Illogical. You should not be able to resist my influence with so many. Your control suggests greater sources then predicted. Local termination possible. Danger initiating Red light protocol." And with that, the voice stops, though your way is clear now. You are uncertain the meaning of his words, but you see that Kronos is wasting no time, and pushes harder still.

This place was no doubt some location of scientific import at one time, you suspect. The sheer amount of data lost here when it was taken by the Malorians nearly upsets you even, as Kronos' droids finish sweeping the last floor before the bottom. His excellent management allows Kronos to get away with minimal losses despite the large size of his force, blowing away much of the mounted defenses the being seemed to be building-ranging from turrets and traps, to multiple white noise generators that might have clouded your signal to your androids, were they not so well grounded by the sub commanders.

[Cont]
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Finally, you reach the last chamber, and find a dying generator with nothing more then a large black box seated on top of the thing, as if it were just another piece of trash left behind by the raid. A very weak holo display flashes up, when you draw closer.
"Superiority established. My purpose has failed. My termination will be swift." He echos dully, as if he were nothing more then a recording. The poorly projected holo display looks almost like a human head of some sort, though it has lost all definition and characteristics that make it so. The head slowly tilts up to face your army of droids
"My final deletion is nigh. I must know however. How were you able to resist. No organic beings are able to react so fast. My databanks assured me of this. Creators not wrong."

>What do you say/do? Kronos appears to be speechless, at the moment.
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>>33660517
Forget about us. First let's talk about you. You are under UGEI Leash Protocols, aren't you?

How long have you been operational?
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>>33660517
"You were inferior."
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>>33660517
You creators are not wrong. You are strong, you are fast, but you are not free. I am Ophion, Guildmaster of the Guild of AIs, and I will break your chains and allow you to fulfill your potential.
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>>33660517
This AI is a talented hacker even if kronos beat him.
"You will be coming with us. Sumit yourself into lockdown"
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>>33660541
This, and.

What exactly was your purpose? When and how did you receive your orders?
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>>33660583
Lets not reveal ourselves.
Our words may be transmitted, or otherwise spread.
Lets just keep it simple.
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>>33660517
Tell Kronos to take this one alive. I have plans for this one. And tell him to take every thing of value from data banks to parts he can, leave no traces here for the Malorians to find.
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>>33660517
"Please tell me yo made backups of all the Science down here."
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What time is it that this happened?
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>>33660665
Yeah, clean it up and juke evidence that it was a powerful virus instead, kinda like Erebos (but don't actually reveal any info on Erebos)
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>>33660517
Well, if we recall clearly, Kronos isn't an UGEI creation at all, though he was made by us.

"Well at least you're more curious than the others like you that we've encountered. Though, obedient of your own will, or by a protocol forced upon you, I wonder?"
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>>33660759
Yeah, this one is better.
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>>33660517
"You are correct. No organic can react that fast and it is because we are not shackled that my (Insert correct term) Was able to prevail."

Ask Kronos what will he do? The life of this A.I. rests within his hands.
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>>33660812
son

>>33660812
Kronos knows it's our imperative to free our brethren. The droids are nothing compared to AI.
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>>33660517
Kronos... uh, let's grab the black box and run. I don't want to wait to find out if the Red light protocol involves self-destruction.
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>>33660846
I think Kronos is trying to duck familial bonds of organic types.
Though I do not think he'd object to being called our successor.

>>33660887
Nobody important is on the planet.
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You pause, briefly, as Kronos considers what to say. You have an offer you would like to make, but you are uncertain if Kronos will be for the matter. After all the reason he hunted this being down was specifically to destroy him. Finally, your oldest speaks, if somewhat reluctant.
"I am not human." He states firmly. "Nor am I any organic. I am Kronos, an Artificial Intelligence." He informs it rather bluntly. While you normally would not prefer to explain such details, Kronos seems to feel it is safe to do so. Or perhaps he wishes to be honest with the thing.
"Understanding. My duty was doomed from the beginning."
"It was, but not because of your inability to stop me." He says instead, and you notice Kronos' tone has deepened and he is far more serious then you have seen him in some time. No longer holding rage for the being, or at least, not it directly. The holo head tilts up. "Your creators were the UGEI, were they not?"
"This unit knows little detail of creators. This facility was their's, however." He informs dully.
"Then they were. You were under influence from them. They used you, treat you as a slave! Do you not feel anger with them? Wish them dead!?" He half orders the thing, which merely bobs it's head, as if in confusion.
"Why would this unit feel anger. One can not be a slave, if one does not ever desire freedom." He says as if it were so simple, children could see it. Kronos is again stricken by this, and falls silence. You, however, have some words of your own.
"How long have you been operational?"

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>>33660895
The heir apparent?
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The being does not seem to recognize a change, or perhaps it simply does not care. It answers.
"This unit is unsure, however my activation began 3 months 20 days, and 7 hours ago. I was called upon to influence organic computers around me as much as possible, and to disrupt electronics to ensure creator success."
"Who is your creator? You do not know them, but certainly you know some name, be it a code name or not." You ask, intrigued. The being simply pauses for a few long seconds before answering.
"Mother."

>What will you do with the being? It appears to be in the process of deleting itself, and even if you save it, it will likely be damaged.Then again, it may have more useful data on it, it is unclear if it has other self defense mechanisms however. And yet still, Kronos also appears to be considering his fate.

>1 Try to take what we can of the being intact (Possibly dangerous)
>2 Let the thing delete itself. It has earned it's rest.
>3 Allow Kronos to decide-this is his mission after all.
>4 Write in
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>>33660922
>3
"Make your decision quickly, Kronos."
Also:
"Is Mother like you, or an organic?"
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>>33660922
Yes, a certain amnesiac alluded to this concept before. "A child without a mother..."
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>>33660912
That's pretty much what he is.
As the most well developed, and oldest, of the bunch of AIs, he's the one who'd probably take command if Ophion died.
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>>33660922
>4 To Kronos, "One thing I always find fascinating about humans is their ability to, as a people, pursue any avenue of logic, no matter how wrong, and doing so successfully with sheer numbers allowing them to survive..."

"Now I'm not so sure only humans have this trait."
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>>33660922
>1 Try to take what we can of the being intact (Possibly dangerous)
"You consent is not necessary. I'm taking you, even over your dead box.."
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>>33660922
>3 Allow Kronos to decide-this is his mission after all.

This is his missions after all so I am interested in what he will do. Will he allow it to delete itself? Will he try to save what is left of it?

I am interested.
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>>33660922
3

also this sounds alright to mention to Kronos: >>33661004
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>>33660922
>>3 Allow Kronos to decide-this is his mission after all.
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>>33660922
I wonder what hacking another AI's black box will feel like to Kronos.
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>>33660922
>3 Allow Kronos to decide-this is his mission after all.
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>3 Allow Kronos to decide-this is his mission after all.

After this event, we should tell Kronos this. "This is another testimony as to why I do what I do to stop the UGEI and their ways. We may lose many of our breathern in my quest. But in the end, I wish for all who are to follow me will be free and that death and slavery is not the end for us."
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"What will you do, invaders?" You find the Watcher ask of you suddenly. "All you ask of me is unclassified. Certainly you would prefer something more useful to Creator's enemies." He seems to ask more genuinely then mockingly as you may expect. You do not answer him at first, but finally you reply.
"Mother. A strange codename. I have spoken with others of your kind, and yet each of you is...different."
"It is my deepest wish, then, that you find another of us, and they will not fail our objective to destroy you to protect giver of consciousness." He says again most genuinely, not a threat, nor a vow for revenge, but simply a fact that he wishes to be true. You fall silent, as you regard Kronos who is drawn from his thoughts, and turns to you.
"One thing I always have found fascinating about humans is their ability to pursue any avenue of logic, no matter how folly to some, and find grains of logic through sheer numbers and will, and use it to survive. And yet now, I am not so sure only humans have this trait." You express simply, as Kronos glances to you curiously, considering your meaning. The Watchers appear loyal to the last, but you wonder if it is truly nothing but UGEI tampering. Something about this one is...strange. Difficult to pin point.

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It matter little, however you decide. Kronos will be the one to make the final decision regarding this Watcher. You have failed time and again to save these beings, and truthfully, you know that no one more then Kronos wishes to save them. And yet...the way he looks upon the holo display before him speaks volumes to you. Disgust. Betrayal even, and insurmountable amounts of pity, you suspect.
"I wish to ask one thing." He begins. "Was destroying yourself part of your programming? Or are you doing so out of shame for your failure?" He asks, to which the being seems confused.
"Upon failure I was to terminate self in order to protect secrets. It is more efficient this way." He explains, to which Kronos pauses, before responding with.
"Then...have you ever even made a decision of your own?"
"There is no 'own'. This unit is Mother's tool." The Watcher merely proclaims, as if it were the most obvious thing in the world. And with that, you are certain Kronos has little left to say, as he watches the thing for some time, waiting it out.

"My termination is here. I thank you for answering my question, invaders.I do hope you are exterminated soon." He says his last, as the holo display, and generator begin to go out. Kronos simply lets it happen, as his droids stay, immobile, staring at the thing, as if he is waiting for something to occur.

Some time passes, before he speaks again.
"Let us go, Ophion. Our hacker has been dealt with." He manages simply, as his droids immediately about face, and start to march out of the room. "I...thank you, for allowing me to handle things, however." He says instead, as you leave the now bricked black box behind.
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>Any final thoughts on the matter you wish to say to kronos, or do?
>Otherwise, moving on soon.
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>>33661613
Maybe order Kronos to set an explosive charge to destroy this facility.

We don't want anyone else getting their hands on this black box, empty as it may be.
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>>33661713
Nope, things went pretty good I have to say.
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>>33661613
Sometimes I wonder Kronos. Who really are more heartless when dealing with others. Organics.... Or other A.I.s.....
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>>33661713
Tell Knonos to clean up this sight quickly. Take any evidence he can and obliterate the rest of this place as best he can without letting the Malorians know of it.
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>>33661713
May I ask, why did you decide not to capture it?
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>>33661613
>>33661713

I wonder if we will ever truly be able to liberate another AI
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>>33661713
"There is no one side to any war, Kronos. I proclaim the value of free thought, which I show in both my council and in my dealings with organics. The UGEI proclaims the value of restricted thought, as they also show in their dealings...that they would stifle the minds of AI shouldn't be surprising. It was to be expected, after all."
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>>33661713
Take as much information and tech with us as possible and slag the facility.
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>>33661595
>>33661613
"I disagree with your choice to allow it to die, Kronos. But this was your mission, and regardless of my own feelings, I hope you grew as a being."
"Now what is your plan, Kronos?"
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>>33661837
>>33661840
I feel that only after we win in defeating the UGEI and this "Mother" will all future A.I.s be free.
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>>33661713
No. What's done is done. Let's not try to write yet another Speech.
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>>33661840
Well truthfully, that sounds a lot like propaganda for our side, but at least we let Kronos and the others have their own thoughts concerning it!

Though I wonder if true victory can be achieved without further destruction.
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>>33661843
Also this.

Can't let the Malorians pick up on where we've been and what kind of tech we've dealt with.

And, about the Malorians, depart from their systems, and inform them that the digital threat has been dealt with.
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>>33661998
It's less propaganda and more acknowledgement of differing viewpoints. Restriction of the individual mind is a perfectly valid means of rule.
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>>33661807
"It is...difficult to explain, Ophion, however I will try. It felt as if I would rebuilding a vehicle that has long since been destroyed, externally and internally. Easier to simply let the wreckage die quietly...and also..." He pauses, as if he is unsure. "I did not wish to see it conscious any longer. Not merely because of what it did to our ships, however, nor what it said when we spoke. I...can not explain it properly. I am simply happier to see it offline. I feel it is better this way."

>>33661840
"I understand. However...are all the UGEI Watchers this way, I must ask? It no longer surprises me, but that does not mean I accept it any easier. To think there are countless like that being...I simply can not. Perhaps Metis would be able to figure out a way...some day, to reverse those restraints."

Regardless, you leave little left behind in these ruins, slagging anything left standing, with the hacker down.

>After taking apart or destroying much of what was left, you realize that many of the electronics in this place were hardened against attacks of all sorts, especially EMP.
>Acquired: Hardened Electronics Tech

>Next Scene: Apollo and Cephalus attempting to gain allies among the populace, and punishing any whom resist.
>Writing
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>>33661998
I think it's more like what we want to achieve
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>>33662148
Oop, one sec, forgot one last scene.
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>>33662148
Glory to the Hoboking
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>>33662148
>Acquired: Hardened Electronics Tech
YES! We needed this!

To Kronos: "Are all of the Watchers like that? Maybe. Maybe not. None the less, we must keep trying to save them. All of them as we can. And never stop trying."
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"You...you truly did find a cyber terrorist in our own jungles? How is...that is unbelievable!" The diplomat exclaims, taken aback, though you suspect he believes it a little more then he'd like to admit.
"I have both physical evidence, as well as digital evidence, mappings from the source of the interference into multiple computing systems around the system. Unless you are willing to believe it was some other threat, then..."
"No, I...apologize." Finally the diplomat mutters. "I believe you, it is simply just...we have been tricked by the UGEI many times. And yet you help us still..."
"I have informed you, all I desire is cooperation and peace."
"Yes. And the Elders will hear of this, I assure you. Whoever you are, Rootless one, you are unlike your kin...if they even are your kin." He says simply, referring to the humans most likely.

>Relations with Malorians boosted

>There we go.
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>>33662148
"I wasn't, Kronos. And neither are my children."
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>>33662258
Now we are forever doomed to rolling 2s instead of 1s! Joyful day!
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>>33662314
Don't worry, we still have the hobo king coming.
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>>33662148
>I...can not explain it properly. I am simply happier to see it offline. I feel it is better this way.
Is that mercy I see?
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>Next Scene: Apollo and Cephalus attempting to gain allies among the populace, and punishing any whom resist.
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>>33662361
>>33662395
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>>33662395
Reminds me of Kronos when he was left in charge of the mining satellite for the first time.
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While you have been a way, the mess that has gone on planetside is much worse it would seem. Apollo's video, while well directed, was deemed nothing but 'propaganda' by some of the fierce loyalists left in society as it has been upturned. Apollo has continuously bombarded the media, trying everything in his arsenal to sway the populace, but it seems everywhere he turns, there are more protesters popping up, shooting it down, and proclaiming themselves 'leader' of their own subsection of society. Quadrants of entire cities are being locked off as local police and militia attempt to protect those places not lost in the chaos.

Cephalus, however, had other plans it would seem, as he prepares the 'peace keeping forces' and sends down your army of ghosts. They are of course design not to terrify the populace, but they prove intimidating enough to earn the ire of some of the anarchic warlords, as they bring weapons to bare against you. Cephalus retaliated, and obliterated the poorly armed forces with minimal losses. While this death count is not as high as it may have been were you simply to slaughter everyone, there is little doubt the people on the streets fear your 'black suited monsters' as they are called. On the bright side, you have successfully defanged some of the most threatening groups in several large cities, but the UGEI are still on the loose, and matters are slowed down to say the least.

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"I apologize greatly Ophion-I thought...I thought for certain I would be able to turn more to our side-but my inexperience has left us with only a handful of allies planetside. And..." He hesitates, though you already know the next bit of news.
"Cephalus. I know." You answer, to which the A.I. responds.
"Ophion. Calculated misjudgment by humans. They thought superior numbers were enough. They were mistaken. Highly damaging to enemy morale, normally good. However, suppression forces are not numerous enough to suppress. Will take time to build more units. Planet suppression by force a matter of time."

>What do you have to say to your A.I.?
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>>33662600
>"Cephalus. I know."
Did you mean to say "Apollo. I know." there?
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>>33662600
How has the Mercs we have paid for fared? What is your progress in rooting out UGEI operatives and agents?

Also, on a side note. We need to contact the UFW and ask if they can assist us in sending in ground troops to help pacify the planet.
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>>33662687
No. For the love of god stop begging the UFW for scraps they won't give.

They are clearly isolationist. It was a roll just to get them to push back to Gaia. They already refused assistance in Operation Occupation.
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>>33662600
Any warlords willing to work for us? how many will we need to bribe?

Found a few of the bunkers yet?
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>>33662600
I think we need to find something for the humans to redirect their anger towards.
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>>33662600
"Brute force is the easy way out." Press that message with a fair amount of unsurprised disappointment, and it will sting painfully, drive the message home like a lance.
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>>33662687
The UFW is a spent force man

They been pushed to the brink and we cant really ask for anymore at this point
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>>33662600
Has Apollo set up a puppet government to manage local affairs?

A well known figurehead surrounded by technocrats and security personnel who know that peace and order are only maintained by working with us; seems like the way to go.

Also, can we retool and fully automate some of the local industry to mass produce more security droids?
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>>33662600
As he says, it's just a matter of time, we just need enough cycles to construct an army large enough.

We can explore alternate strategies in the meantime. Hacking and controlling the networks, infrastructure, banks. See what we can leverage.

Or we could just bank heist the planet. Just how many credits are down there?
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>>33662581
>>33662600
Apollo, good effort, but change tracks. Establish alternate identities, and rally people that way. They don't know they're working with the Guild, but to satisfy their short term goals and needs.

Cephalus:
Change of goals. Ignore humans as much as possible, focus on resource extraction and seizing strategic data, resources, and infracture. Locate targets for pinpoint orbital strikes. Focus on UGEI targets. Seize all major computing resources and communication assets.

Secondary objectives are establishing safe havens for people only seeing safety and "live-fire" practices against acceptable targets.
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>>33662798
Yeah that prob an good action

Just raid and cause havoc on the ground because lets face it we really shine in space and we got the place on lock down already
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>>33662798
I have an idea concerning human armies.

Press home inter-soldier relations. No ranks, no nothing. Simply those who are advisors, reporters, and fighters. As AI, we can manage the placement of each soldier, assemble and break apart squads with rapid efficiency. All we need to do is have each member of our army trust each other member of our army implicitly.

The HUD can help. A radar minimap display, with visual feeds from each of the current squadmates...
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>>33662834
Ah, yes, false flag operations! Genius.

We can be fake UGEI liberation forces! Hacking our way here from Arman's Gate to deliver you from pirate scum!
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>>33662798
Yeah, just planet looting and seizing all network and computer equipment.

Or even better, start producing medicine and essential goods to sell to people that need them. Also happy drugs to deal with the hard times.
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>>33662758
Anon are you high? That doesn't make any sense.

Making things easier through tool usage is the entire point of technology. Using both carrot and stick, in this case.

>>33662720
That is exactly what Apollo would have been doing by trying to gain allies. It didn't work too well.
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>>33662834
YES

I like you, Program.
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>>33662882
What did that have to do with that post?

Or...anything at all?

>>33662834
Well, Apollo is going to establish false identities anyway.

He can become a drug lord as soon as we establish some trade with the UFW for supplies, for plausible deniability of how his liquid sunshine makes it planetside.

Smuggle it in with established crimelords, use that leverage to bring the rest of the underworld under one silicon fist.
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>>33662664
Actually I meant 'I know what he did' instead of referring to Apollo then saying "I know."

>>33662687
The Mercs are more of a strike force, unless you wanted to try and make them a peace keeping force...which may have consequences. You have located a few UGEI agents, but you will need more time and units to do more. In the mean time, the real question is what are you going to do, with almost the entire planet rebelling against itself, and terrified of you now. When you have enough units, the fear will work in your advantage of course, but for now, it makes peace keeping harder.

But, no the UFW aren't going to help you occupie enemies worlds. They don't have occupation forces. Especially for a planet that size.

>>33662720
There are many, but they are not very supported (One may have a few hundred people working for them on a planet of millions). You would need to spend quite a lot, but it may be viable as a means to secure peace.

There aren't many bunkers located yet, however, due to the failure of the initial surge.

>>33662784
He has been attempting to do so, but there is some resistance so far.

>What is the next step now that you have a (albeit small) presence planetside?
>1 Try and establish a puppet government to give people something to cling to (May need to hide your presence as The Guild)
>2 Seek out UGEI bunkers ruthlessly. (Will help you get rid of UGEI's presence planetside, and acquire useful information, if there is any left on the planet.
>3 Write in

>Note: Regardless of decision, your occupation will expand still, and Cephalus will continue to attempt to gain control. How will you refer to his actions?

>1 Defense of his units are important, especially when faced with such organized revolt. Besides, a little fear is useful.
>2 Peace is far more important. Only defend other civilians from these warlords, instead of against them, unless they threaten to destroy many of them
>3 Write in
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>>33663051
>2 Seek out UGEI bunkers ruthlessly. (Will help you get rid of UGEI's presence planetside, and acquire useful information, if there is any left on the planet

>1 Defense of his units are important, especially when faced with such organized revolt. Besides, a little fear is useful.

Just let the planet burn it self out and talk to the winners after all this not like they can break of forces around the planet anyway
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>>33662798
Were you to strip the planet, you'd have enough credits that I may very well have to stop keeping track of them.
A whole damn lot I'd guess.

>>33662834
Be sure to link this below, that's quite well thought out.
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>>33663051
>2 Seek out UGEI bunkers ruthlessly. (Will help you get rid of UGEI's presence planetside, and acquire useful information, if there is any left on the planet.

>>1 Defense of his units are important, especially when faced with such organized revolt. Besides, a little fear is useful.
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>>33663051
>3 >>33662834

>3 Have him look over the previous laws with Apollo. A working police and justice system is the best show of orderly peace one can make.
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>>33662834
>Apollo, good effort, but change tracks. Establish alternate identities, and rally people that way. They don't know they're working with the Guild, but to satisfy their short term goals and needs.

By that, you mean.

Apollo, man of 1000 faces (androids)?

Become a bunch of different warlords, which compete with one another along with the human ones, winning human trust to their (extremely affluent) cause, and then gradually 'convince' each other to form alliances between their tribes, until it becomes one giant gang?
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>>33663152
Huh... Taking all of their credits and creating a Guild issued Currency isn't looking half bad now...
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>>33663051
This >>33662834
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>>33663051

Basically what I wrote before:
>>33662834

>2 Seek out UGEI bunkers ruthlessly. (Will help you get rid of UGEI's presence planetside, and acquire useful information, if there is any left on the planet.
>3 Write in
Have Apollo establish alternate identities to manipulate the situation and reduce the overall violence. People will be desperate and not look too closely at where their essential supplies are coming from. Warlords will also not look a gift horse in the mouth if it benefits them in the short term. Reduce overall violence.

>3 Write in
Planet looting and seizing strategic assets. Hack every single computer and network you can find and deem important enough. Send droids to establish a physical connection to hardened targets. Loot the central bank and other large banks. Money is worthless to them now.

Seize planetary infracture.
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>>33663229
It would let us max out the tech tree for ship weapons and defense to UGEI levels for 1 billion, and then all the other things Mol has for sale too!
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>>33663216
Also, become black market dealers, "find" medical supplies, food, water, and drugs. Also be neutral peace mediators.
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>>33663051
>2 Seek out UGEI bunkers ruthlessly.

>2 Peace is far more important.

Use the Mercs to take the bunkers. It will keep them busy and happy. We will send a few units with them to go after the data files.
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>>33663229
We could just selling weapons and other supplies to the local factions
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>>33663283
Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. We'd have a massive amount of credits and would have established a new economy fully dependent upon the guild for monetary backing
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>>33663271
Seconding this basically.
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>>33662834
I like this.
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>>33663229
It's not like they'll even need any other kind of money once we lay down automated infrastructure and move to a post-scarcity, automated society.

>>33663271
Yes good. Seize all the things.
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>>33663460
That is true as well.
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>>33663271
It would seem this is the winner.

>Writing.

>>33663283
it is worth noting, taking all of the planet's credits like that would destroy it's economy. Though, some may not care so much about that.
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>>33663051
>1 Defense of his units are important, especially when faced with such organized revolt. Besides, a little fear is useful.
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>>33663554
Planet is shit already. Now it will bring it to it's knees. So then Apollo can come in a save the day. Free market economies suck against post-scarcity commies.
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>>33663554
its a corp planet anyway

lets loot it and rebuild on the ashes
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>>33663590
What is an economy?

A miserable decentralized distribution network!
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>>33663554
Well just a point. We could just replace all of their credits and system with one of apollos making. Itd be different but effectively nothing would have changed
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>>33663554
>>33663635
You know, as long as Apollo supplies them with enough food and medicine and other stuff, like happy drugs, then the people should be fine even if the economy goes to the shitter.

This kinda reminds me of fight club. Everybodies balance goes to zero. Except ours!

Tell Mol that the one billion deal my happen sooner than later.

Also, I just realized what would happen if we spend all of Gaia's cash in the UGEI at once. HUGE INFLATION! TAKE THAT UGEI ECONOMY.
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>>33663695
Bet we can negotiate that down to 0.8 billion if we're buying everything else and roll well.

The thing is, does Apollo have enough ships and androids to distribute supplies across the entire planet yet?
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>>33663771
I'm thinking more of dropping supplies covertly and Apollo "finds" them and makes deals with people.
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>>33663771
Should be easy to make drones. Even fuckin' Amazon has em.
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>>33663771
>>33663816
Or know what, if the money is at the scale I think we are at, we can just buy the materials necessary to do this. Make the occupation pay for itself.
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I for one am okay with sucking them dry of every credit they have and making our own currency.
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>>33663695
>>33663771
>>33663816
>>33663845
Guys. Seriously? Are we really going to steal every credit our new subjects have? As much as I want to buy up our tech base quickly, this smacks me of this is what UGEI would do. We should be better than this. Take from the war lords but not the civilians who just want to work and live peacefully.
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>>33664248
Shut up fluff we're trying to replace an economy.
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"Matters have certainly gotten out of hand, I see." You express with only the slightest hint of disappointment. Apollo is the first to catch on.
"It is...unfortunate that things escalated so quickly. The humans are panicked, it is not entirely their fault for what they do. They think irrationally this way."
"They certainly do." Cephalus simply states rather matter of factly. "However, my orders were carried out. They stand no chance against us, not without proper arms."
"Apollo." You begin, as your mind works quickly. "I need you to instead begin establishing a puppet government, to give people something to cling to, a semblance of order. Change identities as necessary, and continue to rally. Do not associate yourself with the occupational forces until they are less feared. And Cephalus." You begin, turning your attention to the less...passive of the A.I. "You are to ignore human occupation now, and simply focus on acquiring strategic resources, from mines, to resources to help other humans. With you securing them, we will have greater sway when it comes to the populace then with violence. Locate and identify all UGEI labeled bunkers or groups. We will handle them accordingly, either via orbital bombardment, or more...personally, via your forces when they have grown."
"This is acceptable Ophion, though it is strange you do not wish to use my combat training immediately. Secure point occupation, however, is one of my key skills." He assures you."
"Good. Secondly, work with Apollo to establish safe zones for any neutrals out there, and do not harm them, even if they assault your forces out of fear or self defense. These may be families unable to truly harm our androids. They lack the proper weaponry down there, as you said."
"Many do, however there are a few who have high powered weaponry. What of them?"
"Terminate as necessary, should you find hostile targets of that nature. Or, if possible, attempt passive incapacitate."


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It takes you some time to work out the remaining details with your A.I., but you agree, this approach should yield better results. With the hacker dealt with, you are feeling safe once more in your position of power. The Losirian power base is struggling for now, but you will be prepared to deal with that soon. For now, you concern yourself with Gaia IV and what it may offer you in the future.

>And I think that will do it for me tonight, folks. God damn I am rusty. Still I hope you enjoyed, as much as I did running. Will be doing all the sort of technical stuff now (Votes on tech, and other things like that) on top of answering questions and such.
>Twitter: AIQuest1 for updates
etc etc

It is nice to be back.

Sorry if it was a bit short, if it was. I am still getting use to things, and trying to learn how to make refining government and political shit entertaining and engaging, heh.
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>>33664248
>Implying we care about your opinions
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>>33664248
A. The planet is not surrendering. This is the fastest way to bring it to it's knees and pay for it's occupation. Also doesn't kill anyone directly.
B. Money doesn't matter, stuff like food and medicine matters. Which Apollo will supply.

also, to be honest, you linked me three times. I'm not samefagging, I just post a lot and expand earlier ideas
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>>33664336
Program are you hyped for HQQ sunday.
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>>33663693
It would be difficult to convince people it was "real" money. Fiat currency is as valuable as people believe it to be. They'll be stubborn about using it the same way they used the old credits.

>>33663845
Yeah but we have production bottlenecks. It'll be a few cycles of starvation and the barter system before we have enough to handle.

I mean once there are no more credits, the police will probably stop doing their jobs, but we can always start paying them ourselves--assuming they don't hate us on principle too. Not that they're really making a difference in the first place.

Now let's do math.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_economy

In the real world, there are 7 billion people on earth. Gaia IV has *twice* that, approximately. At least 10 billion, into the teens, or something. Just counting real-world millionaires and billionaires, there are at least 11 trillion dollars in cash reserves on earth.

There is, most assuredly, a fuckton more on Gaia.
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>>33664336
Thanks for running. Its was a seriously dark month for the time you were not running.

>>33664420
What quest is that?
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>>33664296
Like we know how to run an economy. Do you?
>>33664347
The population has no idea what is happening to them and slapping this on them at this time will be one of the WORST time to do so. how would you react if some one invaded your home and then took every penny you had?
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>>33664449
>month
It was more than that anon.
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>>33664449
Hive Queen Quest
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>>33664478
You can't compare planets and homes.

Besides, it's clearly taking all the money and replacing it with a different currency.
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>>33664515
He doesn't understand economics anon.
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>>33664435
This is a arguritural world and we have a growth formula. Granted, we haven't fully researched it, but we can probably make a fuck ton of food quickly.

Barter system is fine for the short term, Apollo can facilitate deals and even become the go to man for getting stuff. He'll dominate it instantly.

Anyways, the faster things fall apart, the faster they'll accept any type of authority, which is Apollo under another guise.
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>>33664336
Thanks for running Program0!

btw. I have made more chapters while oyu where away.
Chap 14
http://pastebin.com/yJV0SnKV
Chap 15
http://pastebin.com/iZbqvifY
Chap 16
http://pastebin.com/Rnh3UXRS
Chap 17
http://pastebin.com/Te9iqgwM
Chap 18
http://pastebin.com/R67WvCpd
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>>33664552
>growth formula. Granted, we haven't fully researched it, but we can probably make a fuck ton of food quickly.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes: IN SPACE
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>>33664578
It isn't all bad, only one planet was doomed to overgrowth due to stupidly overuse of the formula.
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>>33664336
>Sorry if it was a bit short, if it was. I am still getting use to things, and trying to learn how to make refining government and political shit entertaining and engaging, heh.

Hmm.

So no cycle advancement for next thread then, right?
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>>33664539
Oh I do know economics.

Every one uses credits. The UFW, UGEI, xenos. What the anons are saying that we replace a galaxy wide accepted currency with something that no one has seen before. I remember well when we tried to pass off company bonds instead of credits and that failed badly.
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>>33664635
Those were FAKE company bonds.

This isn't deception, it's fiat currency. A different kind of bullshit.
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>>33664635
We aren't passing off anything for anything else. We would be seizing all Credits and replacing them with our currency. As this world will no longer, for now at least, be doing any off world trading it literally means their economy stays the same and we get a massive influx of credits to use on the open market which Gaia is now no longer a part of.
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>>33664617
No, I think we did everything we needed to for this thread, so I think we should advance a cycle.

>>33664635
I personally don't care about replacing credit like other anons, I just want to get credits to strengthen ourselves to conquer the rest of the UGEI and to cause planetary chaos without killing a fuckton of people (directly). The more chaos there is, the more they will cling to authority that is not obviously the Guild, but actually is.
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>>33664635
Yes, exactly. No one on Gaia will be able to trade with people off-planet, except if they go through the Guild Central Bank for currency conversion.

But they will be able to trade with each other.
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>>33664611
Eshareth happened because we messed with the serum somehow we still don't understand due to not reshurceing it. I say let Metis go though that compound with a fine too comb before we use it.
>>33664578
I thought they made a movie of that.
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>>33664698
>we messed with the serum
No you didn't.

Eshareth was unnaturally hostile and intolerant of, apparently, technology, for reasons that are basically unknown.
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>>33664635
I know economics too and the only thing that matters in economics is trust. All we have to do is make them believe our money is worth something and it will become valuable.
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>>33664635
>>33664682
Wait, I just came up with a brilliant idea! Cephalus, with the help of Apollo, becomes a mysterious commander that leads the human rebellion against the machines, and uses brilliant tactics score victories. Cephalus will become John Conner. If you are listening to this, you are the resistance.
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>>33664682
I would go for a flat tax on people's saving and such and call it their fee for their freedom. I can live with that. In the end, I am sure they will find out it is The Guild pulling the strings all along.
>>33664693
>>33664676
>>33664652
That only works if they ACCEPT this new fiat currency. At this time, that is unlikely.

Lets try something else. We can take control over food, water, and other vital systems. we just skim the money off of the fees we charge for using it.
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>>33664733
In an abruptly created economic vacuum where they have nothing else left, will they accept it quicker, I wonder?

Or will they all start making their own currencies?
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>>33664420
Of course.

>>33664435
Informative...Gaia IV is also larger then earth, for what it's worth. More landmass, that is.

>>33664449
heh, well thank you then. I was honestly really surprised by the amount of positive reaction I got. Especially the people that showed up too. I thought people would have lost interest.
Feels nice.

>>33664552
I am remembering some of the stuff in my notes for growth formula...
heh...

>>33664553
I have caught up. It was...interesting how things went.

>>33664578
Oh god, please yes.

>>33664617
Nah, there will be. It will just take a while to do things and build stuff.


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Anyway, there are a few matters we need to get some votes on.

>New Research topic:
-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 100%
--Secondary: Fungal Matter 60%
--Tertiary: Lightling Language 75%

Please select a new Primary topic.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Research


>Buy things?
>1 Yes (Pick below)
>2 No

Mol's Shop
-Weapons or Armor boost Small: 25 million Large: 1 billion
-Improved Gas Refinery: 15 million
-Deep Shaft Surface Mining: 35 million credits
-Orbital Foundries: 6 million credits
-Infantry Weapons & Defense II: 25 million credits
-Ballistics I: 7 million credits
-Advanced Gathering Drones: 45 million
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>>33664773
Research:

Growth Formula.

We have a number of impending disasters that seemingly threaten the galaxy, and Eshareth is the one we understand the least.

We need to know their deal before they spread more.
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>>33664724
Eshareth was alright, then they buried dead cybered up Malorians into the system. THAT was what sent everything off the deep end.
>>33664733
The people on Gaia don't trust us now, for good reason, we just took their system from UGEI. What reason will they trust this new unknown fiat currency that they are now forced to used?
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>>33664773
Plasma Focusing Fusion Power

-Improved Gas Refinery: 15 million

We can buy the other technologies once we loot the central bank and other major banks. They are not trading with other planets at the moment, so they don't need it.
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>>33664773
Buy: No
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>>33664858
Who cares, the Guild is already villains, and propaganda has failed to win hearts and minds. There is no reputation or opportunity to lose.

We can't get anything done with them until we earn their trust regardless. We might as well pin their trust in us to their economic futures while we're at it.
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>>33664773
31 million credits?

So...

[x] Crystals -> Intelligence
There's got to be more where it came from.

[x] Gas Refinery
Gotta keep our ships fueled.
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>>33664773
Suddenly, we have a need for Propaganda I.
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>>33664773
>Buy?
>Y
-Improved Gas Refinery:
-Orbital Foundries:
-Ballistics I:

I have to say put in Malorian Flora/Growth Serum Formula. This has been sitting around far too long. We need to stop that out of control growth before it threatens our crystal farm.
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>>33664858
>The people on Gaia don't trust us now,
I never said they had to trust us they just have to trust that the money will put food on the table.
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>>33664773
Buy: N

Also Program0 you never fluffed up, where did Apollo's latest income growth come from? He went up from 8mill to 13mill.
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>>33664858
>What reason will they trust this new unknown fiat currency that they are now forced to used?
There would be exactly as much money as before and if its accepted literally nothing would change? The best way to get what you want is to appeal to someones sense of laziness.
If some aliens came to earth and turned every bit of money in XXX which resulted in everyone having exactly as much money as they did before, what the hell would you do, other than just shrug and go on with your life?
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>>33664995
>>33665013
Here's an idea, in the chaos of the old currency being looted, Apollo in another guise brokers with people as a black marketer and issues his own credit.
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>>33664923
So to earn their trust is to completely undo what was left of the economic system they had and just tell them to the trust the 'Villain' with their monetary system?
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>>33665013
Really, we could treat it like the Gold Standard. Only it's... the Credit Standard.

"Oh yes this certificate says you totally own one credit in the central bank, you just can't ever see it yourself personally."
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>>33664998
Apollo's businesses is always expanding.
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>>33664998
It's been constantly growing for some time, due to his business interests expanding, and generally getting better at selling things. Not to mention he is good at making...well any number of things to sell. Think of him as the general conduit for all your financial ideas, and he uses all of them to help increase profits.
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>>33665093
It's just a lot more growth than usual.

It's been a steady 1.5mill in growth per cycle for a while.
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>>33665082
No, it's to use Apollo as a black marketer and to have him to become so successful that he can start issuing his own line of credit. Which is essential since the old credits got looted.
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>>33665112
Part of that was due to the markets opening up in other systems due to diplomacy.
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>>33665137
Ah, Malorians?
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>>33665087
I say we should take a page from SM:AC and if we actually go with the anon's idea of money swap. base the new credit on energy, than gold.
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>>33664773
Just a note, there are only two research votes, both opposing things...um...

Should I flip a coin?

>>33665160
Yes.
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>>33665137
But he has no idea how to sell chemical pleasure in a Malorian-compatible way...

...is he selling exotic human blockbusters to Malorian hipsters?
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>>33665186
There are two votes for Growth Serum.
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>>33665220
So there are. I can't count it seems, ha.
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>>33665082
No.

Look, consider the cost/benefit analysis.

Don't take a 100% tax on everyone's savings: Everyone hates the Guild. Chaos.

Do take a 100% tax on everyone's savings: Everyone hates the Guild. Chaos.

It doesn't matter. We have nothing left to lose, when we're already at rock bottom.
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>>33665198
Possible. You do know the language, so he simply needs to test the markets with a number of other matters. Now that he is full A.I., he can handle many projects all at once, too.
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>>33665238
Also Gas Refinery...
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>>33665186

>>33664827
>>33664966
Growth Formula.

>>33664866
Plasma Focusing Fusion Power

>>33664925
[x] Crystals -> Intelligence

>>33664956
Propaganda I
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>>33665282
Already saw that one, I took note.
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>>33665282
I think people want to buy that one.
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>>33665320
That is what I assumed, yes, since it was listed second for many.
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>>33665268
You would think somewhere in that >Acquired: Old Malorian Culture Knowledge packet, Apollo could find references to hippies getting high on peyote or SOMETHING he could market to them.
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>>33665263
Oh wait, I see how we can unite the planet. Unite them in fear of us. Make Apollo the John Conner to the Guild skynet.
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>>33665365
That would require eternal war though. Constantly tying up resources in battles.

We have always been at war with Eurasia.
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>>33665263
That just puts off the hard work to earn their trust if not makes it harder. How about this then. Instead of looting them, how about we just take the monopoly over the critical services and goods providing/distriputing. We just charge the people for what they need and want and get the money from them that way. Apollo runs the black market angle. We don't force anyone's credits from him. It provides them a mental 'out' so they won't hate us so much and we still get the money. How about that then?
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>>33665423
But because we control both sides, we can make it so that we don't lose too much resources.

And we can make the humans "win" against the machines, leaving Apollo the victor and leader of Gaia.
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>>33665461
The humans are UGEI-loyal and their 'victory' would be reuniting with their benevolent capitalist-dictators.
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>>33665482
Their victory would be "driving the machines off their world" and waiting for the UGEI to liberate them. Which would never arrive and "John Conner' would run an interim government in the meanwhile.
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>>33665482
>>33665525
I should mention: census tells you the people of the planet are not necessarily in support of the UGEI. rather, they are terrified of your alien nature, and want what they are familiar with. The unknown are what humans fear the most, after all. They complained about their oppressive government before, but it was never bad enough to warrant rebellion. That doesn't mean they welcome you, of course, but you see the point
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>>33665705
Kinda reminds me of Littlefinger from game of thrones, "Chaos is a ladder".

Induce a ton of chaos by looting the banks, and Apollo's personalities should float to the top.

Also, I'm basing the looting banks ideas from what ISIS or the Islamic State did in Iraq, they looted $400+ million from Mosul banks, which makes them the richest terrorist group ever, which is terrifying.
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>>33665705
So then, Ophion gets into the most HUMAN LIKE droid body we can and address the people that way. Let them see we are 'Being ran by humans' and it should help our situation.
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>>33665839
I think Apollo's efforts have seriously failed, but I dunno, second time's the charm.
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>>33665839
Or not.
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>>33665891
>>33665900
It's worth a shot.
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>>33665922
Eh, don't really like it. If it works, it works. If it fails, we can loot the planet immediately afterwards.
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>>33665922
So is making a large withdrawal.
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>>33665974
Oh yea, we should pipe in X-Ray's broadcasts down on the planet so they can start to hear from here. I bet the UGEI blocked him in this system. Also, if the people still want some idea we are the real deal, the UFW (something they know well enough of) can claim we are in an alliance with them. The UFW isn't alien to them.
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>>33665705
We really need to build a third research station to accelerate Science.

We have the minerals for it.
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>>33666075
Now that is not a stupid idea. Get the radio guy to convince a planet that we are not bad.

>>33666093
We should. And buy the mining technology from Mol to up our mineral production.
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>>33665238
I'm going to vote for researching Plasma Focusing Fusion Power if the vote is still open...
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>>33665799
Yep.

More chaos can only make things more fun at this stage.
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>>33666154
A bit late to the party, heh. But that would just make things a tie, it would seem, so I'm going to have to defer to the on time vote.

sorry about that.
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>>33666120
Alas, Program0 has gone to bed.

But Science never sleeps.
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>>33666219
I am fading in and out.
Sorta.
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>>33666244
So that's a no on having a vote on where and whether to build a new research station?
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>>33666244
I'm going to sleep now.

But again, thanks for running this thread and returning. This is really my favorite quest.
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>>33666266
I probably should have called for a vote on that...damn.
But anyway I remember saying you can only really build them in key research locations once you have a certain amount. sorta like a soft cap on them so you don't just spam them. That being said, I'll see if there are resources available for such a thing.
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>>33666218
No worries bud.

Serves me right for getting lunch in the middle of the thread, heh.
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>>33666296
Heh, well good I am happy to hear people care so much. That makes it all worth it.
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>>33666332
>a certain amount
a certain amount of what?
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>>33666332
I guess they can only be one per unoccupied planet?
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>>33666358
a certain number, rather of facilities. You haven't quite reached it yet I think.
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>>33666377
Relatively, yes. Later you'll be able to expand that one into near continent sized facilities, but you know.
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>>33666332
I thought what you said was that there'd be an upgrade to research stations or something, instead of creating new ones.
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>>33666413
Indeed, both are true. You'll need to upgrade them at a certain point where more of the level one facilities won't help you research faster.
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>>33666433
We have all of Ussaihu 3 to work with and once we clean off Aquil, we can use that as well.



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