It's a little late, but, have you considered using ask.fm for questions, instead of an email account?
Archelon set one up recently and it's been pretty successful.

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>1.

You decide to sit in the chair behind your desk, although you did move there very slowly.

“I’m surprised that you didn’t sit in my chair,” you say as you walk, keeping a close eye on the helldragon-in-human-form. “It seems like the sort of thing you do after sneaking into somebody’s private room.”

“That would have been rude. I’m here to talk peaceably, not start a fight,” Sylvian replies matter-of-factly.

“How did you know I’d be here?” you ask as you sit down.

“I made a wager that you would venture here sooner or later. If you didn’t I could either alert one of the many mystic foxes scanning for intruders or simply go find you,” she replies, giving you a sweet smile as you take your seat.

Somehow you feel like you’re in more danger than before in this seat. You should feel like you’re in control now, but it really just feels like you’re being bent over the barrel. You despise the feeling but are unwilling to upset your ‘guest’ just yet.

“I’m surprised that you came personally, particularly given you already have an inquisitor here,” you say.

She raises an eyebrow at that. “We both know that Harold’s main interest here is how many pretty, or not so pretty, women he can bed. I made the mistake of scrying on his surroundings late last night and that was as evident to me as anything else he may have encountered.”

You stare in response to the admission that Sylvian was using your ‘friend’ as a way to spy on you. As well as the fact she apparently caught Harry ‘in the act’ – serves her right, you think. Still, “I’m not sure I appreciate being spied upon.”

>continued

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>>33507835
“Given my organisation is riddled with Karise’s spies, I don’t think you’re in any position to talk,” she retorts. “I let her go after Ren told me as a sign of good faith but don’t for a second think I don’t realise the implications.”

“You’re supporting me, then,” you say.

“I’m waiting to see what everybody’s favourite wildcard does,” she says, giving you a sharp smile. “That’s what everybody likes about you – you’re powerful, charismatic and dangerous yet nobody knows precisely what you’ll do. So everybody tries to win you over – Alyce plays to your heart, using your companions against you. Fenix uses the fact the two of you share similar ambitions and the same potential of monstrousness. No doubt the lesser powers whisper their own sweet nothings into your ear.”

“And you’re going to be different?” you respond, unable to help yourself.

“Yes and no. I’m not going to make sweet offers to you. I’m merely going to tell you what will happen if you do work with me and what will happen if you don’t,” she says. “Before that, I’m interested to hear where you think the world is going in the next decade? If you weren’t here to change that.”

>Response?

>>33507783
I'm pretty sceptical of setting up anything outside twitter, the pastebins and these threads. I don't see myself using the email for much, to be honest. I'll reconsider other options if that turns out to be untrue.

>>33507862
I was under the impression they aren't allowed to spy on her for us and vice versa as per the terms of the alliance with the foxes

>>33507862

A fractured world full of warlords and petty tyrants carving out their own little fiefdoms and constant war.

A world unprepared to meet bigger threats like the Lord of XXX and the Shadows.

>>33507862
The entire world? not just this continent then?

>>33507862
"The Magi League will fracture. You'll pick up bits, Malantine and the lords will get some. Ember will be taken down eventually. The RSK will shatter into three or four pieces. Oh, and the barrier will undergo a period of stress, but will likely survive, assuming Ember doesn't attack those fortresses he can reach of course."

>>33507862

"Under me."

I actually would suggest a ask.fm. It is useful for just random questions about the setting that you can answer anytime and have a easy to find record of the answer.

>>33507928

How can the world be under you if you aren't here to change the world?

>>33507922
+1

>>33507927
primarily this

>>33507943
Worthless question Talon is always there. Even if he isn't.

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>>33507908
Karise and her foxes directly serve you so they're actually exempt from this. The foxes from Ren's clan aren't. Also, even if they weren't it still stands to reason that her organisation is still riddled with your spies.

>>33507922
It's pretty obvious what she means unless you want to give her a smartarse answer.

>>33507862
>I’m merely going to tell you what will happen if you do work with me and what will happen if you don’t
I am more then a bit curious as to what this actually means

>>33507977
>It's pretty obvious what she means unless you want to give her a smartarse answer.
I am all for being a smartarse
But I was actually not certain because both lord ember went insane and fenix tells us his archmage's rebellion is caused by insanity as well, specifically, a claim that the world is ending.

>>33507989
>I am more then a bit curious as to what this actually means
Oh, it means blatant threats.

>>33508006
Probably. Not like it matters we already have enough threats weekly anyway.

>>33508006
the blatant threat was before this.
The "world status" thing is a curious question that doesn't seem as part of the threat to me

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VOTE
>1. The major powers fracture but the world keeps turnning, if bumpily.
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems.
>3. "Under me." Ignore her qualification to exclude yourself from the future.
>4. "The entire world or just this continent? Word usage is important." Be an insufferable smartarse.
>5. Custom

>>33508060
>3

>>33508060
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems.

>>33508060
I kind of want to go with under me just because I can't see Talon being able to imagine a world existing without him. After all there is only this world no theoretical ideas would suffice.

>1. The major powers fracture but the world keeps turnning, if bumpily.

>>33508060
>1. The major powers fracture but the world keeps turnning, if bumpily.

>>33508060
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats,

>>33508060
>2

>>33508060
4

>>33508060
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems.
Thereby resulting in:
>3

>>33507862
Don't be scared talon
turn up the charm. maybe you can lay a dragon

>>33508060
>2

>The entire world or just this continent? Word usage is important." Be an insufferable smartarse.

My sides

>>33508060
>2 &3
2 with out me

>>33508060
>5. Custom
have a seat

we sat down at her invitation. don't let tower over you, have her seat down as well

>>33508060
2

>>33508060
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems.

>>33508060
3

>>33508060
2+3 seems to be good combination

>>33508060
>2. The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems.
>3. "Under me." Ignore her qualification to exclude yourself from the future.

>>33508225
how, the two are incompatible

>>33508275
The world powers fracture and this prevents any united force from meeting major threats, causing enormous problems leads into you stating that none of that shit will happen under you as you will be emperor

>>33508060
>2

>>33508275
Tell her what it would be like without us, then tell her what it's going to be like with us.

Without us, everything breaks up and becomes unstable but ultimately things will keep going. With us, a new empire is forged and things go far more smoothly in the long run.

>>33508287
This

>>33508295
>>33508289
>>33508287
hivemind stronk

You realize that under me implies we conquer HER as well

oh god...
>Are you implying you intend to conquer me imperator?"
>I love conquering women stronger than me

>>33508060

>>33508212
changing my vote here to
>>33508287

>>33508307
Also this. Because it is my greatest fetish to rule them all.

>>33508307
no wait
>Are you implying you intend to conquer me imperator?
>Would you like me to?

>>33508289
I kind of want him to say that theoretical worlds that that are meaningless thought exercises. Since in the end there isn't anything to test what would happen.

>>33508307
the one cock that shall rule them all
especially with hand holding

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>>33508157
She is sitting down.
>“You do have them. I didn’t teleport in,” replies Witch-Hunter General Sylvian, still smiling at you, sitting in the guest chair near your desk.

>2.

“The League and the RSK fracture,” you say. “With the existing issues in the west and the general weakness in every other major power this means there’s no united force or ideal to fight for. There was widespread religious forces under the angels and the Three Lords were sane and united to fight the shadowbeasts just two hundred years ago but now there would not even be that. The end result would be that any sufficiently major threat would spell doom.”

Sylvian nods, giving you a genuinely appreciative smile. “A sufficiently cynical answer. I came to a similar answer six hundred years ago when I formed the Mage Guard from the ruins of the Wardens of old and played an important role in preventing the Three Lords from conquering the continent just two centuries later. I think the same now but find my old cause failing and the foes ever greater.”

You frown at that. “Ever greater? Most mages I speak to say that magic is less powerful now than previously.”

Sylvian snorts. “There’s less powerful magical entities in the world now, with the slow demise of the angels and the would-be-Gods, but mages grow ever more powerful themselves and the shadowbeasts show that divine threats never wane in power.”

You stare at her in surprise. “You know what they are?” you ask incredulously.

She gives you an odd look. “Not precisely but I thought it obvious. The shadowbeasts’ arrival and subsequent attacks, as well as the desperation of the angels in fighting them off, was suspiciously similar to the behaviour recorded around the Emergence. Then again, that might be a little far back in history for you. Never mind, that – just know that not all threats are internal. One must always be vigilant, just as you appear to be.”

>continued

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>>33508358
“How do I come into this?” you ask, feeling like you already know the answer.

“When I formed the Mage Guard, I did so believing I could champion such change,” she says, not answering you directly. “As it is, I was merely able place myself as a destroyer of threats, not a builder of solutions. A fitting role given my background but of limited usefulness now. The world-“

You interrupt her, “You mean the continent, right? Word usage is kind of important.”

Sylvian gives you a glare, but you catch the hints of a smile on her face. “The world,” she repeats with emphasis, “needs a strong base to build any defense from. As you said yourself, even the war against the shadowbeasts relied heavily on the angels and the Lords. With their power waning, who shall we rely on next? Alyce has fallen prey to the fractiousness of mages. Fenix’s ploy at using the selfishness of royalty and nobility is collapsing under the weight of his own crimes despite his technique’s success. Malataine draws on power I would see destroyed. That leaves you and your record says you might be willing to work with me.”

“In place of the other powers,” you say.

“In place of certain doom,” she says, giving you a serious look. “Whether that may be from me or time itself.”

Sylvian leans back a bit, eying you closely. It appears she’s said her bit, even if it’s mostly unclear precisely what she wants. You’ll likely need to question her directly if you want to know the specifics – something intentional as it lets her keep the initiative.

>Q&A

>>33508372
so shadowbeasts are demons? or what?

>>33508372

"What power does Malataine draw on?"

>>33508372
"I already plan on forging as great and far-reaching an empire as I can, and donating as much army as I can possibly spare to the Archangel. What more would you have of me?"

>>33508416
Why do I get a feeling they are gods?

>>33508372
>Malataine draws on power I would see destroyed.
I want to know more about that

>>33508372
So, what do you actually specifically EXPECT from me?

>>33508372
"What are you offering me, specifically. I have heard nothing that indicates that you can offer me the resources needed. "

>>33508372

Did our policy on vampires not preclude any "understanding" with the Mage Guard?

What would working with the Mage Guard specifically entail? What policy and conditions would she set for us? What level of supervision if any?

Would they be willing to offer us anything to ensure that we will become the strong base to build her defense around? I only heard threats and vague warnings of apocalypse so far.

>>33508372
I thought shadow beasts were lead by the archangel of death what with how he disappeared and all or am I completely of target?

>>33508464
wut.

>>33508439
oh, maybe corrupted gods?
Or, an angel's equivalent from an evil/corrupt god?
Devils are not inherently evil, they are super lawful and they seem to practice technomagic instead of spellcasting.
So what if shadow beasts represent evil, devils, and angels good and fae chaos?
ok this is falling apart, angels aren't actually good. and there are no alignments in this setting (although that doesn't mean some gods don't declare themselves to be good and other evil)

>>33508479
well Samael disappeared right since the formation of the barrier of Marie so I presumed hes on the other side of the barrier

>>33508494
That's what I thought too... But how the hell did you draw the conclusion from that the shadow beasts are led by him?

>>33508372
Saving ourselves from a certain doom is all well and good, and I surely will work to prevent such a thing, but there are many immediate problems around me and I have my immediate goals for myself and my empire. It seems if I ally myself with you now, I would fail at dealing with these problems and reaching these goals.

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>>33508420
>>33508441
>"What power does Malataine draw on?"
"If you don't already know then I'm not about to tell you off-hand," Sylvian says. "Suffice to say it's precisely the sort of thing I set up the Mage Guard to stop."

>>33508416
>so shadowbeasts are demons? or what?
"Merely that they are a divine being like them. An otherworldly invader - for all that the angels and demons act like inhabitants of this world they are still foreign conquerors who merely lost their kingdoms in the Cataclysm."

>>33508421
"You already sound like you've spoken with Raphael. That's good but my concerns are larger than the Barrier. Samael would understand better but I know not where she lurks."

>>33508458
>"What are you offering me, specifically. I have heard nothing that indicates that you can offer me the resources needed. "
"I am an ancient helldragon that makes your pure elementals look like children. I am your resource, should you prove yourself anywhere near as capable as I hope you to be."

>>33508463
>Did our policy on vampires not preclude any "understanding" with the Mage Guard?
"Perhaps. I am not the Mage Guard, however. Controlling and herding the vampires is precisely the sort of thing I like to see - it is uncontrolled, unmonitored power that I worry over, not the sort kept under lock and key."

>What would working with the Mage Guard specifically entail? What policy and conditions would she set for us? What level of supervision if any?
"I am not suggesting you work with the Mage GUard. I am suggesting you work with me directly. This would involve... subsumation of those Mage Guard elements that are cooperative. The point would be to create a united power that was about more than just controllnig and containing magic yet was always careful to do so.

"It would be necessary to ensure that runaway elements of the Seraphs and the League were kept under control. There would be far too high a risk that they might run amok and draw on powers they shouldn't otherwise."

>>33508506
he probably thought
death = bad
life = good
shadow beasts = bad
shadow beasts killing things = death
shadow beasts might be undead

IIRC we have confirmation that this isn't the case though

>>33508575
What would she say if we worked the mage guard, rsk AND the League?

>>33508575
To be frank, she and guard seem to constricting and too focused on goals much different than ours. We may and probably will eventually want to help them in our own way, but right now we have completely different immediate concerns.

>>33508575
Her offer sound good, we're not allying with the mage guard, we're allying with her specifically
not that we're going to give her a straight answer here

>>33508575
Once we get all the 'important business' questions out of the way, be sure to also ask her for advice on dealing with Lynn's father when he arrives.

>>33508645
She doesn't know about Lynn. I'd rather that stayed that way.

>>33508645
>revealing lynn's heritage
why?

>>33508637
Her offer is basically that we and her subdue and subsume the mage guard (whom rumor says she is losing her control over) and then adhere to her demands in regards to keeping power tightly controlled.

I am pretty sure this tight control of power is going to run opposite to at least alyce.

>>33508645
>Revealing lynns heritage to the the helldragon who holds lynns father personally responsible for the destruction of her race, her family, her friends, and the dragon empire.
not a good idea

that said, she might already know

>>33508575
>"Perhaps. I am not the Mage Guard, however. Controlling and herding the vampires is precisely the sort of thing I like to see - it is uncontrolled, unmonitored power that I worry over, not the sort kept under lock and key."
"I have no desire to keep them under lock and key indefinitely. If there is one truth in the world, its that sooner or later the oppressed try to to break free of their oppressors, regardless of the reasons why they were oppressed in the first place."

>>33508668

So she's no better than Fenix or Alyce.

Good thing Talon's here to save the day.

>>33508690
I did not know about that bit.

>>33508668
replying to self here but
not to mention this sharply limits what we can do

remember the limitation on the compagnom traders.
actually, speaking of

>>33508575
Why does the mage guard disallow compagnom to trade with pharos?

So basically, talon rules, but mustn't do anything she disapproves of?

>>33508700
veto

>>33508575
I will repeat >>33508574
So far, from the talks, all I can see is that siding with her bring a whole lot of trouble and nothing else.

>>33508718
replying to self agin
>So basically, talon rules, but mustn't do anything she disapproves of?
and she is pretty vague about what that is, only that she thinks we are currently acting the same way she would.

>>33508700
wtf? no.
And we are intending to keep them under strict control. they won't be in an internment camp but they will be watched

>>33508700
only time they're getting out is when we're going to test the medicine/cure on them

>>33508730
I agree with your notion
But not with your proposed response to her.

>>33508712
Yeah. A helldragon would be useful but the moment Lynn is found shit is going to go nuts because we will probably like the felldragon king.

>>33508575
Tempted to ask her why helldragons even exist.

>>33508761
they aren't getting "out", they are getting "integrated into empire in useful roles while being carefully watched".

>>33508763
Oh, to be clear, that
>siding with her bring a whole lot of trouble and nothing else.
was just a comment, not proposed response. Proposed response/question was mostly >>33508574.

>>33508775
its times like these I wish we went the Hitler route and committed genocide. Would have been much easier

>>33508798
Well, I agree would've rather staked the lot of them but what is done is done, so I am hoping a couple of useful vampires will show that they are at least worth the trouble.

>>33508798
>>33508827
/tg/, happily attempting to commit genocide

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>>33508612
>What would she say if we worked the mage guard, rsk AND the League?
"Trying to shoehorn me into your other offers? There's something to be said for getting all possible benefit from a deal and another for just being plain greedy.

"To be frank, Alyce and I do not get along. Her ideas for restraint of magic are too open for me - she would allow precisely what caused the issues with my race before its downfall. I have similar issues with the Seraphi nobles - that blood of theirs they cherish is a tainted curse that will bring ruin on them," she says.

"You're not going to elaborate on that last part, are you?" you ask.

"Not so simply, no. Especially as I can't be certain you won't tell them of my suspicions," she says.

>>33508718
>Why does the mage guard disallow compagnom to trade with pharos?
"Pharos is... complicated. Part of it was wanting to keep the foxes protected, another was that the Shadow Empress has been embracing the magicks that the foxes helped keep at bay previously. I don't want that in my territory if I can help it but it was difficult to restrict them without an outright ban, given the political situation in the Guard."

>>33508730
Telling her this outright will mostly just annoy her so I've been avoiding it as there's been no support.

>>33508768
>Tempted to ask her why helldragons even exist.
"Because somebody wanted soldiers who were more capable than dragons. Contrary to the beliefs of the foxes, being a created being doesn't prevent procreation. It just that most created beings are prevented from it for obvious reason."

>>33508837
>/tg/, happily ridding the world of evil.
fify

>>33508798
And much less useful long term. Be like burning down a building because it was in the way and you didn't feel like repairing it.

You now, it seems like none of the major powers/players care about the people. They have there ideals and plans but they don't care about seeing the general populace being improved, much less by the efforts or examples of a leader. No real regard for culture and what it can bring to the table.

>>33508861
>caring about the people
Have you forgotten us in Taour?

>>33508861
>don't care about seeing the general populace being improved
And we do? We've spent jackshit on culture and everything else so far focusing everything on military...

>>33508861
but that isn't true
Alyce is out to abolish the royal bloodlines and foster free magical research "for the good of the people"
Fenix is out to crush the royal bloodlines and socially engineer all people into a massive warrior culture "for the good of the people"
Helldragon lady is out to lock up and tightly control and limit or outright stamp out "dangerous research" and "dangerous thinkings" and "dangerous powers" and so on "for the good of the people"

All the major powers simply disagree on WHAT the good of the people are. just like IRL. A communist and a capitalist will both tell you their goal is just and benefits the people

>>33508844
I seriously do not like her and her offers at all. She is better as a separate force that we will help when it comes to certain forces. She is too resticting for my tastes. I don't think I have any other questions either.

>>33508861
Pretty much no one gives a crap in general about the populace. You kind of need ideals or the likes for culture and it's not like they don't already have one.

So it's not that bad.

>>33508575
Might as well ask her about the war dragon while she is here.

>>33508924
Personally I veto allying with all the major powers and imply become a major power in our own right.

>>33508955
dubs confirmed
joking aside I'm going to have to agree

>>33508955
Honestly the best way to go about this is Allying with Archmage keeping ties to the RSK and using the knowledge we get from these ties to weaken them ourselves.

>>33508955
We will have to take stands on certain matters and that mean whether you like it or not we will have alliances and enemies.

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Last set of questions before I end the scene. Note that I'll be moving onto some social stuff immediately afterwards (I'm also putting off the Gendarme scene for now as writing new characters is harder).

>>33508940
>Might as well ask her about the war dragon while she is here.
"I'm here about the future, not the past," she says curtly. It's pretty obvious that the feldragons are a sore point.

>>33508987
Great convo of us still not knowing what se would restrict.
fuck it, move on

>>33508987
>(I'm also putting off the Gendarme scene for now as writing new characters is harder).
Booo

>>33508987
So she offered nothing, asked nothing, explained nothing, and gave no terms... Alright, move on.

>>33508987
How does the world map look asp?
Is there only our current continent and pharos or are there more lands?

>>33508987
We keep that platinum coin we got from the monastary on us, right? might wanna pull that out and start playing with it, just to see her reaction.

>>33508987
>conversation where nothing happened
whatever, letsa go mario

>>33508987
>(I'm also putting off the Gendarme scene for now as writing new characters is harder).
how long have you been putting that one off?
>>33509037
nah

>>33509040
>>33509016
We will probably come back to her and talk much more in depth after some time. When these vague threats she talks about become a bit more real.

Honestly, I expected and hoped for a bit more bluntness against her. We were blunt even against Raphael. I am disappointed in this conversation. She kept concealing things and talking nothing, after accusing everyone of talking sweet nothings no less. Her words were not sweet but they were even more empty than others' sweet nothings. And we just let her.

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Given this is literally the third time this session I've wondered why I even bothered with trying in-depth diplomatic talks, I don't think I'm going to waste time on anything like this again. I don't normally comment on these sort of thoughts, but this has been pretty stark from my point of view. It's a huge amount of effort to do the in-character diplomatic talks and nobody seems happy afterwards.

Pick a character, no customs. Just some light social activity to close things off because I'm not touching anything serious or difficult right now.

For those not interested, next thread is on the 25th at 6:30pm EDT.

SOCIAL SCENE
>1. Taira
>2. Karise
>3. Finn
>4. Salamander

There will be a thirty minute break before the next post while I have dinner.

>>33509053
It's mostly because the Gendarme's are pretty boring and I'm trying to have them not be.

>>33509150
>Taira
She is always fun.

>>33509150
>1. Taira

>>33509150
>>2. Karise

>>33509150
>2. Karise

>>33509150
The other talks were mostly fine. Sylvian talk was bland because of her character.

>>33509150
>1. Taira

>>33509150
>4. Salamander
>>33509150
I actually enjoyed most of them. I think the real reason people are unhappy is basically fatigue. We've had a lot of inconclusive meetings in a short period of time.

>>33509150
>1. Taira
I normally sit out on these talks as I'm outa my depth on them. I appreciate the effort and enjoy lore and insights into the different personalities, I just blank out on what to say.

>>33509150
I can see why you wanted to get them all out of the way but chaining them like this was probably tiring for everyone. Besides, I enjoyed them aside from the dragon.

>>33509150
I think it is mainly how long the Q and A goes on. After the first surge or two there isn't much questions so it takes a while to get along.

>>33509192
She got her point across at least.

>>33509150
>2.Karise

>>33509150
probably should did the following order of
>negotiate
>tourny
>negotiate
>tourny
etc.

>>33509150
I think the reason these talks don't work is because we feel directionless on what to actually say, which makes it difficult, and then we don't get any immediate payoff when we finally finish, which makes it frustrating.
I think if we had a more tangible and immediate result, then they would be more enjoyed. Look at the 'conversation bosses' in Deus Ex: Human Revolution for example. Those worked well because they had big, dramatic results, even in the middle of the conversation. They were more like verbal duels and they had emotional stakes.

I don't know if that's the kind of thing you can emulate in any kind of reasonable way, but if you're up to it, give it a try. These talks are very civil, but all the tension is wound up in uncertainty of what to do rather than real drama (excepting perhaps the Princess), and then there's no release. Just a vague promise of future change.

>>33509150
>and nobody seems happy afterwards.
What do you mean by that?
It didn't feel like people are displeased with the results of the talks
i thought they went just fine. some were really eye opening and totally unexpected too

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>>33509192
The responses to Sylvian's are identical to that of Fenix's from my point of view and makes the session feel like a waste of time.

She was offering her personal assistance, that of a massively powerful helldragon, in exchange for you working with her to destroy and rebuild the Mage Guard, crush the Magi League and RSK rebels and then build a strong empire. The main drawback would be that she would have pose restrictions on how you could approach and use magic. This is literally all in the text.

>>33509197
Which just reinforces the point. I feel like I've wasted a session and a half on this (plus the Alyce session) when it's going to come down to an infodump of benefits and drawbacks in the meeting. The actual meetings appear to breakdown to complaints about nation leaders not giving out precise details about the nitty gritty that won't actually matter.

>>33509235
The problem with not chaining them is that it results in annoying situations like the vampire situation where I feel limited in what I can do because you don't actually know what you're really making a decision on. It basically defeats the whole point of even attempting to offer strategic choices outside of a list in a meeting.

>>33509150
>For those not interested
i am, but its 3:20 am and i can't stay up any longer.
night

>>33509262
This. The talk with princess whatsherface was on the low end of interesting drama. Drama is conflict. Make us fight for stuff, give us obstacles (but do give us important/necessary information or we'll stall).

>>33509316
gotta love /tg/ stalling

>>33509316
In addition to this, it might help if you made it clear what our goal is in a very broad sense going into a talk. If we have a goal, a conflict, and then a payoff, it'll be good even if it's bad.

>>33509278
What were supposed to do /ask? I thought all the major decisions would come after the tourny?

>>33509357
We can get random info given what we know already.

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>>33509357
I'm mostly complaining about the fact people are complaining about things not happening that did, in fact, happen. I don't care if people didn't ask much, because that means they got the info they needed. I'm bothered that people said they didn't get information I felt I literally just gave them.

Right, my bitching about this disaster of a thread aside, social scene. Just know that whenever I have to revisit this sort of diplomatic decision making (if ever) it will be 100% different. Open-ended talks are clearly a waste of time for everybody involved.

>1.

The tournament is still a couple of weeks out and you’re out in the courtyard with Taira in the middle of the night. Not exactly your idea of a good time, particularly as you’re still wearing clothes, but it feels necessary.

You focus your power again while Taira glowers at you, her tails fluttering about her as she tries to monitor what you’re doing. You’re apparently doing something wrong but you don’t know what.

Maybe if you succeed (again) this time she’ll be less unhappy?

[DC12 Focus Power]

Rolled 3

>>33509416

Rolled 7

>>33509416

Rolled 11

>>33509416
focus

Rolled 10

>>33509416

Rolled 17

>>33509416

>>33509438
>one short
The dice gods mock us.

Rolled 9

>>33509431
>>33509434
>>33509438

Oh the irony.

>>33509416
>I'm bothered that people said they didn't get information I felt I literally just gave them.
>Expecting /tg/ to put two and two together.

>>33509416
Ah I see. Not much that can be done about that.

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>Target not met

Or you might try to do it differently and fail outright, prompting another outburst of anger.

“Don’t change how you do it!” she shouts at you, her tails waving around her menacingly as you stare at her with vague bemusement. “Just do it!”

“You should be careful about shouting that aloud, Taira,” you find yourself saying automatically, your mouth running on autopilot. “People might get ideas.”

The somewhat diminutive fox glowers at you. It’s been a rather constant theme for the night, you feel. Something about the way you’re using your astral power aggravates her to no end. You decide to stand, putting an end to the nonsense – surely she knows what you’re doing and it’s the definition of insanity to think it’ll suddenly change for no reason.

“So, what’s got you in such a tizz?” you ask her.

Sadly, she doesn’t answer, instead raising her head in a huff. You sigh and decide to pass the time by stroking the nearest tail. As if on cue, the other tails shuffle closer to you even as their owner steadfastly ignores you.

“Take me somewhere fun,” Taira demands of you, still not looking at you.

The only way you’re getting anything out of her is by entertaining her and you could do with something relaxing yourself after several hours of pointless frustration. You take her to…

>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.
>2. The kitchen. A midnight snack is exactly what you both need.
>3. The fountain in the merchant area. A bit of peaceful solitude in nice surroundings might mellow her out.
>4. Custom

>>33509416
>I'm bothered that people said they didn't get information I felt I literally just gave them.
Seems there is some miscommunication. I thought it was pretty clear what she wanted, I don't think other anons complaining she basically didn't say anything missed this either. She said she wanted to with Mage Guard with our help and then move on to force her ideals to everyone.
What we were complaining is basically that we have no idea what this would mean. What would she have us do? What would she do for us? How would we bring deal with mage guard? What would we do about the league and rsk, and how would we do it? What are her restriction on magic? Because we obviously will not restrict our mages as much as she would like. What about our mages and mage towers? These are just from the top of my head.
King Fenix for example told about the situation, his goal, what he expected from us, and what kind of alliance we would forge.
Alyse similarly explained mostly what she would want, what she would provide. Although she was secretive about more long-term goals.

>>33509536
>>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.

>>33509536
>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.

>>33509536
>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.

>>33509536
>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.

>>33509536
>1. The hot springs. A relaxing bathe will do the both of you some good.

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Hot springs update incoming.

>>33509547
>Seems there is some miscommunication. I thought it was pretty clear what she wanted, I don't think other anons complaining she basically didn't say anything missed this either.
There were literally three posts right after I called for final questions saying that the conversation with her was a waste of time.

>What would she have us do?
>>33508575
>This would involve... subsumation of those Mage Guard elements that are cooperative.
>"It would be necessary to ensure that runaway elements of the Seraphs and the League were kept under control.
Basically, take over the Mage Guard while ensuring that RSK and league rebellions are taken advantage of.

>What would she do for us?
>>33508575
>"I am an ancient helldragon that makes your pure elementals look like children. I am your resource
She would offer you the help of an enormously old, wise and powerful helldragon.

>How would we bring deal with mage guard? What would we do about the league and rsk, and how would we do it?
The same thing you usually do with people you're fighting.

>What are her restriction on magic?
She was intentionally vague on this. She was trying to imply that she didn't mind magic as a tool but didn't like the idea of magic taking on a life of its own.

>>33509639
Honestly I feel like we picked up a couple of negative shits in the last couple of threads and been shitting some things up.

>>33509668
Anyways, I gotta crash. Thanks for the run Aspie.

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Finally, for people who missed it earlier, the email I created for the quest is in this post, too.

>1.

As you stepped into the hot springs cavern you tried not to think too hard about being here with Taira. It normally wouldn’t be a problem but the golden fox had been very physical with you despite openly avoiding sex. This also wouldn’t be a problem if she wasn’t so happy to make sexual comments to you. You also didn’t see even that being a problem if it weren’t for the fact you were certain that Taira wouldn’t cease being physical with you and making sexual comments in the hot springs.

Hence the difficulty controlling your imagination. Not that you’d need to imagine things shortly, as Taira strips off her clothing rather quickly. You did the same and followed her into the steaming hot water, if less excitably. Obviously your foxy acquisition hadn’t found the time to enjoy your hot springs yet.

Sinking into the water you idly watch Taira wash her tails for a few minutes, noting the way she idly uses her own spiritual techniques to keep the tails from soaking through with water. Neither Vad nor Tsucchi had bothered with that last time so you assumed it was just one of the useless useful techniques that Taira had found the time to work on in her millennia here. You made a slight splashing noise as you stretched out and she turned to you with wide eyes. Did she forget you were here?

You suddenly found yourself with several fluffy tails pressed against you.

“Wash me,” Taira commanded imperiously.

>1. Wash her tails obediently as she no doubt wanted.
>2. Wash her body as she technically asked.
>3. Don’t wash her at all.
>4. Custom

>>33509719
>2. Wash her body as she technically asked.

>>33509719
>4. Wash her tails with one hand and her body with the other.

>>33509719
>>2. Wash her body as she technically asked.

>>33509719
>1. Wash her tails obediently as she no doubt wanted.
>2. Wash her body as she technically asked.
In that order.

>>33509719
>1. Wash her tails obediently as she no doubt wanted.
>2. Wash her body as she technically asked.

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>>33509719
Wow. I'm having a lot of difficulty maintaining the present tense now.

>2.

You decide to let your lust get the better of you and go straight for the fox herself rather than her fluffy tails. As you hand snaks around Taira’s body she lets out a squeak but still relaxes into your touch happily, her fluffy tails pressing on you as she leans into you. You’d expected some resistance, given her past behaviour, but maybe she’s finally given up on playing hard to get?

“You’re rather good at this, aren’t you?” she asks suddenly.

“I do have some experience,” you say.

“True,” she says. “I can’t wait until Finn gets some, too. He’ll be worth chasing into bed rather than just teasing.”

You frown at that. “You’re really interested in Finn?”

“When he learns what to do in bed,” she replies, her hands playing over your arm as it moves lower on her body. “I’ve learnt over the years not to make a boy a man if you don’t want something serious from them. Finn will be fun but he’s not really my type.”

“But Vad is,” you say, surprised at the idea.

>continued

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>>33509886
“He was. He still kind of is, even if he is a little emasculated after so many years of politicking. Plus, you intimidate and confuse him so he tends to act strangely around you,” Taira replies.

You shift one of your hands to her tails, emitting a low moan from the fox, before saying, “I honestly don’t know why he would be thinking that.”

“He has Ren as a model authority figure so your brusque warrior-king approach is new to him,” she says, shrugging. “You can see the same thing in Karise these last two weeks. They see something new and latch onto it if they like it. Vad just doesn’t know if he should latch on or let go so he’s waffling.”

“He seemed like he’d latched on when he refused you earlier,” you say.

“I’d thought so, too, but he’s still acting oddly. I could be wrong,” she says, in the tone of voice that suggests she doesn’t think she’s wrong at all.

Taira’s beginning to squirm a bit under your soft, teasing touch. You…

>1. Continue teasing her, knowing you might provoke a reaction.
>2. Push further.
>3. Pull back a bit and question her more about her opinion on her experiences here.
>4. Custom

>>33509899
>>1. Continue teasing her, knowing you might provoke a reaction.

>>33509899
1

>>33509899
>1. Continue teasing her, knowing you might provoke a reaction.
Maybe ask her why she was so frustrated.

>>33509899
>1
>Choosing anything other then tease

>>33509899
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>1.

The fastest way to a woman’s heart is to force them to give it to you, in your experience. Right now that means you’ll tease Taira to your heart’s content until she finally gives you a reaction. You continue brushing your hands over her body in some semblance of washing but without giving her what she clearly wants.

“Why were you getting so frustrated earlier?” you ask her while she’s focused on lightly pulling your hands in different directions (and you pull back in return).

“Because you’re wasting so much power every time you use any of it but it isn’t going anywhere,” she bites out as several of her tails restrict your right arm from going any higher. “It should be going somewhere – light, sound, heat, a portal out of this world. Instead it just appears to dissipate into nothingness. It’s clearly coming from your soul but it appears to be going back into your body – which makes no sense.”

You sigh, not making any sense of her words. As a reward you let Taira guide your hand to between her legs though steadfastly keep it just that little bit too high as she mumbles in annoyance at your antics.

“I don’t understand what you just said,” you say plainly.

“Your astral power comes from your soul, which makes sense – nothing else could pull it in safely. The problem is that it doesn’t appear to be going back out. If it’s going into your body you should either be visibly non-human or dead,” she says, speaking lightly of the potential for your power to kill you. “Instead it just vanishes as if it was never there. I don’t get it.”

Before you can say anything, Taira looks up at you with a funny look as if she’s holding something in.

[DC12 Taira’s Restraint]

Rolled 4

>>33510071

Rolled 16

>>33510071
Oh dear lord. Dice gods hate our asses

Rolled 17

>>33510071

Nat 1 pls

Rolled 7

>>33510094
>>33510098

I CURSE YOU DICE GODS

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>Target met

Her green eyes moist, Taira gives you a slightly begging look and her mouth hangs open for a bit. But she refuses to say anything and quickly turns back to pushing futilely on your arms. For your part, you continue with your own fun.

“Do you know if angels or the Lords are like this?” you ask.

She shakes her head, one of her hands twitching like it wants to take matters into its own… hand. “The angels carry their astral energy in their body as it’s actually made of magic. The God-knights didn’t actively use astral energy in the same way you do but I don’t know about the Lords. I can’t see how they’d do it either. You seem to be violating everything I know about how magical energy must be used.”

“What about Faeries?” you ask, catching her free hand and tickling her free palm, pulling some giggles from her lips.

“They don’t,” she starts, interrupted by a giggle. “Their astral energy just pours out into the world. They don’t take any back in if they don’t use it.”

Which meant you weren’t behaving like any of the entities Taira had seen. The process of elimination suggested you might be like the Lords but it was also possible you were something else entirely. Or maybe Taira was missing something?

You grit your teeth as Taira’s other hand wanders over your lower body. It seems she’s changed tact after refusing to give in to you.

>1. Let Taira do as she bids.
>2. Take the initiative.
>3. Pull back entirely.
>4. Custom

Next post will be the last for the session.

Rolled 9

>>33510193
>>2. Take the initiative.

>>33510193
2

>>33510193
>1. Let Taira do as she bids.
Mention that Raphael seemed to have an idea about what we are, if he wasn't bluffing completely.

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>2.

"Raphael seemed to know what I was," you say, catching her hand before it starts any stroking motions.

Taira gives you a sour look but it swiftly turns a bit shocked as you stop teasing her and take the initiative. "Oh, that's... um, maybe we should visit him later then. If he knows then... mmm, you can't be anything too strange."

You decide to cut out the talknig at that point as you suspect that Taira's not that interested. For that matter, neither are you at this point.

Taira FTB: http://pastebin.com/PEqhPTd4

I'll write this up over the next month or so. And yes, I did do this scene mostly for a chance to do this. Fluffy tail FTB is a fluffy tail FTB.

And that choice basically determined the flow of the FTB itself.

Anyway, next thread is on the 25th at 6:30pm EDT. I'll take any final questions etc, otherwise I'll see you all later.

>>33510286

Fluffy tail FTB, best FTB

Thanks for running as always

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>>33510286
Just for laughs. How irritated would you rate Sylvian when she scryed her Inquisitor?

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>>33510352
Very. Especially once she realised he wasn't even sleeping with anybody important.

>>33510385
This actually sounds hilarious. "Couldn't he at least have gotten a administrator or something?"

Though with how she brought up Talons astral power I'm starting to wonder how natural he really is.

>>33510286
>http://pastebin.com/PEqhPTd4
I love your FTBs. HAve been waiting ages for a fluffy tail one.

Thanks for the run aspi and see you next week.

So, now that the thread is over, what do you people think we should do about allies?

I am personally close to accepting Alyce. Though I would like to learn more about her goals, motives and long-term plans.

King Fenix wants to draw us into the royal plays of RSK and I don't want that. I rather like our conquering style.

I don't think we'll be able to see eye to eye with Slyvian on many matters. So while I see no reason to fight with her, I don't think we could work closely with her for a long time. That being said, we could help each other on matters of mutual benefit and even maybe exchange some favors.

>>33510525
Don't trust any of them. I kind of do want to double play though. Just because insider info is useful as we grow in power. The hard part is keeping things from spiraling out of control.

Good run Aspirational. I know pushing forward with a pile of diplomacy is difficult, I think you did a good job on all of them and managed as much characterization as you could through the limited time they had.

I think your own frustrations might also stem from a lot of people constantly wanting to hold out for more information but when finally given the opportunity don't seize on the chance and instead start expecting the world to fall upon their laps. We're not exactly on the position to be expecting much in dealings with larger forces, this issue was especially evident when people wanted things from Raphael. Maybe it's a problem of character power level not equaling empire power level. I don't know, bit I saw a lot of benefits to having a fucking Heldragon say she'll help us out. Christ man.

That said I like how each of the Terminal routes provides a clear character direction for Talon. Help define things in the short term.

>>33510545
What do you mean double play? They will have distinct expectation that generally conflict with each other. You can not hope to make both sides think you are allying with them. They will find it out in no time if we try.

We could refuse to ally any of them and try to deal with each of them on matter to matter basis. That could be very beneficial or could cause us to go into war with all of them.

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>>33510554
>I don't know, bit I saw a lot of benefits to having a fucking Heldragon say she'll help us out.
Given she's more powerful than any of the Champion candidates at maximum power, that should be obvious. You don't get to be an ancient dragon in this world by being a layabout.

I was trying to present Sylvian as a noticeably different approach to the other two. It's devoid of the sort of politics and ideals that Alyce and Fenix would give you, instead giving you some restrictions around the behaviour you can show towards magic and how it can help you (things like patterns, magically engineering people etc). It would also be more conflict ridden as you'd be fighting the staunchly anti-mage part of the Mage Guard at the same time you would be expected to take both Shropham and fight off Falwick/Asfael. More of a conquest approach, with the League and RSK bitterly against you as they dislike Sylvian, but with the backing of a huge dragon rather than getting tech and trade bonuses from an allied nation.

The other thing I'll need to address at the start of next thread is the Caitlyn thing. It's kind of implicit but I wouldn't be offering the Sylvian alliance if it meant spurning Lynn (because it would be 100% pointless to make the offer at all).

>>33510686

>engineering people

See that sounds interesting enough for me to go with it, especially with how you've portrayed fire within the setting.

I supported the mystery box the first time and I'd do so again. She was right to say the other rulers are using things against us, amusingly enough she seems like the most level playing field option.

Hey Aspirational, random thought.

Have you considered doing some one offs, maybe to help recharge your batteries a bit and let you have fun. You've said that the over the top insane posts are your favorite to write, so maybe just dedicating a thread to that would be good for you. I had thought maybe you could go onto the legends and backgrounds of various Items of Power. As I'm sure those are suitably intense. And you have said you want to add them to the lorebin, but not as a write off detail. Might be good to give them so good time and over the top fun.

Also I'm not saying I'm bored, I love the quest even if it seems like a disaster to you. Just want you to still have fun and not see it as a chore, because the moment that happens you'll start to lose interest and then dead quest.

So guys, what happened to that statue dude we found in the labyrinth underneath Ahm?

>>33511432
Corrfax?

Presumably chilling by the Source doing his duty. I'd wager a very Gnome and him has a few chats while she meditated there during our time home.

>>33511460
Yes him, I wasn't very attentive during those threads and was worried we'd forgotten about him and the deal we made with him.

>>33511657
Nah, Taira ported him to Harrowmont before we left.

Just hasn't come up, or had the chance to talk to him. Minor character and all. It's a shame Aspirational doesn't like doing social threads, feel like he could get some time there as well as many of other side characters. I mean Christ when was the last time we talked to Mal?

>>33510742
Going with Sylvian woukd mean we *can't* engineer people.
Honestly, she lost her species/nation to an engineered subrace, what made you think she was for it?

>>33512012
>Honestly, she lost her species/nation to an engineered subrace, what made you think she was for it?
To a civil war caused by internal tensions, though that engineered subrace had a lot to do with it.

>>33512054
The point still stands.
Honestly, the reading comprehension in this quest is appallingly bad.

>>33512012
Actually yeah I totally misread that. I'm at work on my phone, my bad.

>>33509150
>It's mostly because the Gendarme's are pretty boring and I'm trying to have them not be.
Have you considered making one of them a spiritualist? I could see King Felix encouraging his nobles to acquire that sort of capability.

>>33512054
>To a civil war caused by internal tensions, though that engineered subrace had a lot to do with it.
but she BLAMES the racial engineering
she blames the magics. It is a bit ironic since she herself is an engineered race (helldragon is an enhanced dragon).
its not logical and it is a bit hypocritical of her. but that's how the cards fall down

>>33514436
The main issue I could foresee with that is that she might have detected Talon's nature in the past. On the flip side, that asssumes that she was skilled enough to notice the difference when we were last with her (it was presumably less pronounced as well). Also, its entirely possible, even likely, that that our hypothetical spiritualist did notice that talon was weird, but not having ever met someone who uses astral power she didn't know what she was seeing.

>>33515485
I'm actually pretty sure Talons astral was piss poor weak before the source like even Mal didn't notice it even though he was with the guy for over a decade and even the 5 tail foxy lady Talon almost married didn't notice. Actually holy shit that may have something to do with why Taira can't sense where the power is going.

>>33515323
All I know is we should give her the D. Because who else can say they gave the D to a helldragon?

>>33515664
>5 tail foxy lady Talon almost married didn't notice.
Or didn't tell us if she did.

>>33515722
Can't see why she wouldn't though. From the sounds of it Talon had her wrapped around his finger. Be kind of odd if she wouldn't mention he seemed inhuman.

>>33515761
>From the sounds of it Talon had her wrapped around his finger
It sounded exactly the opposite.

>>33515816
Talon liked the fluffy tails. He still bailed out on marrying her and seemed to have a good idea about her. Which reminds me Arisa flashback arc when?

>>33515664
She can sense where its going, its going into talons body, but that doesn't make sense since his body APPEARS to just be a normal human and he SHOULD be looking like some inhuman monster instead.

I think the key to this is the enfeeblement. the "enfeebled" talon is his base human form. The super buff super sexy talon is his "inhuman form" that just happens to look like the ultimate alpha male human

>>33516258
>“Instead it just appears to dissipate into nothingness..It’s clearly coming from your soul but it appears to be going back into your body – which makes no sense.”

Seems to me that it just up and vanishes and she thinks it goes back into the body. She can't actually see it going back into the body though.
It appears

>>33516427
I think there is something in his body/soul that even Taira is not familiar with. So the power is emitted by his soul in high amounts, shaped and used by Talon to do whatever he wants, and the excess of it goes to 'it' whatever it is that resides in Talon.

>>33516427
right, it vanishes into his body
>Instead it just appears to dissipate into nothingness
it vanishes, where does it go?
>It’s clearly coming from your soul but it appears to be going back into your body
it comes out of soul and goes into body

further
>Your astral power comes from your soul, which makes sense – nothing else could pull it in safely. The problem is that it doesn’t appear to be going back out. If it’s going into your body you should either be visibly non-human or dead

Our "visibly non human" appearance is that of the super awesome human classical ideal body.
I for crying out loud our beard HEALS. beards do not get injured... in humans, in talon they do.

>>33516572
It heals if we use astral power on it yeah. But that just seems more a application of life domain to ourselves.

>>33510686
Just wanted to say, I personally enjoyed the thread. It was a bit slow at times, but overall I had fun. Also, Got any clue how you're going to deal with our sudden hankering for civil engineering?

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>>33514436
The Gendarme family are all magic-users, as are almost all Seraphi nobles. Also, the only place to learn spiritualism is from the monks and no ruler would risk making the monasteries a target by forcing them to train nobles and/or soldiers (because normally they would refuse).

>>33515869
>Which reminds me Arisa flashback arc when?
Either immediately before or after Termina is conquered.

>>33516572
>I for crying out loud our beard HEALS. beards do not get injured... in humans, in talon they do.
That has more to do with the way astral healing works - the healnig is done by projecting your image of how things should be onto reality. Hence why Talon regained his beard when he healed the burns on his face as he pictured himself as having a beard.

>>33519546
>Also, Got any clue how you're going to deal with our sudden hankering for civil engineering?
I'll have to do some research into canals for one. Then I'll write some definite (or close to it) rules for handling earth elementals and magic as I don't have that for some stupid reason.

>>33520537
How many fluffy tails is too many fluffy tails? I want to say there is no limit but eventually you might get smothered.

>>33520743
>but eventually you might get smothered
but that doesn't mean there were too many fluffy tails. There is no such thing as too many fluffy tails.

>>33520778
One of these days we need to bury Talon in fluffy tails. Tsucchi+Taira+Karise. Tails everywhere.

Might add Vad and that one four tails.

>>33520537
> the healnig is done by projecting your image of how things should be onto reality.

I wonder what would happen if Talon changed his image of himself? To say a 7 Foot tall giant or something.

>>33520537
>Then I'll write some definite (or close to it) rules for handling earth elementals and magic as I don't have that for some stupid reason.

Revenge of the tunnel bros?

I kid, I kid

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>>33520743
>How many fluffy tails is too many fluffy tails?
When they're not attached to one fox? No limit except that which you willpower can handle.

Taira tells you that she's the only fox who has ever gotten nine tails but it may be possible for future foxes to get more.

>>33521162
That would be a lot of fluffiness. I can see the Talon with the female tails with a lot of alcohol involved but not so much the latter - Vad spooks too easily.

>>33521184
As I mentioned in a previous thread, it's not easy to change your mental image. Even if Talon was hypnotised it would still use his actual image (rather than any implanted one). His view of himself can change over time, however. It might represent his own opinion of himself.

>>33521421
Not having those rules is what caused me to get flustered when dealing with the tunnel suggestion. I'll likely handle that at the same time.

>>33521498
I'm not a card carrying member of the Tunnel Bros Club, but it might be a neat tactical option in the future. I was hoping the rules could cover two different types of tunneling if it's not too much work.

Tunneling to weaken the foundation of the wall and cause it to collapse was much more common and safer in antiquities.

Tunneling to make an entrance required much more skill and was vulnerable to counter-tunneling that would collapse the tunnel, so it should be the riskier option.

I also believe that tunnels generally required a fairly significant time investment, which I think would be nice to keep so people don't default to tunnels everytime there's a wall in the way.

>>33521498
>His view of himself can change over time, however. It might represent his own opinion of himself.

That is interesting. Leads me to think if he did pull off taking over a massive chunk of the world his power would start growing as he thinks himself more invincible.

>>33521498
>Talon with the female tails with a lot of alcohol involved.

I honestly can't imagine Tsucchi here. She seems really jumpy when her tails get involved.

>Vad spooks too easily.

"Don't worry Vad. Papa Talon said he would take care of you and he will. So it isn't gay. See?"

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>>33521657
The tunneling is more complicated in that if it's easily possible with earth elementals then there'll be dedicated countermeasures for it. Wards and magical reinforcement underground, earth elementals actively hunting for tunnelers, traps placed underground and warded to prevent easy detection etc. Walls would be protected against attempts to destabilise them from beneath. Then there's the issue of getting your troops into position without being noticed if you do make an entrance, ways to clear out a tunnel that's found or collapsing it...

With magic it seems that the actual digging and reinforcement of the tunnel is considerably easier than IRL (particularly as earth elementals have a level of knowledge about their work that would match what modern instruments could gather). But it's precisely that reason that means that there would have to be a lot of well-known countermeasures. I'm applying a bit of reverse logic here - walls and forts are still popular despite earth elementals being (somewhat) common, therefore there must be countermeasures or walls and forts would not be popular.

That's how I intend on approaching it, in any case.

>>33521796
>I honestly can't imagine Tsucchi here. She seems really jumpy when her tails get involved.
Alcohol could still draw her in. Most foxes get jumpy with their tails around anybody but their lover. Taira's less sensitive and was openly gunning for Talon from the get-go.

>>33521498
>>How many fluffy tails is too many fluffy tails?
>When they're not attached to one fox? No limit except that which you willpower can handle.
>Taira tells you that she's the only fox who has ever gotten nine tails but it may be possible for future foxes to get more.
I pretty sure he was asking how many foxes should talon include in his harem

>>33521899
No, not necessarily in harem.

I am happy about so much fluffy surrounding Talon as of late, but also sad. The other girls haven't been loved in forever, namely Undine and Lynn. Not sure if Sala counts, Gnome is currently not here, and we've recently got some Sarah.

Talon should write a book on Harem Managing 101

>>33521881

> Taira's less sensitive and was openly gunning for Talon from the get-go.

I always get a kick out of how every single fox ignores that she always has her tails somewhere on him.

>Alcohol could still draw her in.

Suddenly just see Talon getting drunk as fuck. Then waking up next to Tsucchi's tails. Then turning around and seeing a passed out Ren on the other side of him.

>>33521970
We have rarely talked to Lynn and Undine lately. But then again there really isn't much to talk about to them at the moment.

>>33521970
It is safe to assume they get their time 'off-screen'. There is no way we can spare enough time for them all during quest and so far we've done a good job of dividing our time during q

>>33521987
>Roll for anal circumference

>>33521987
That is a horrible, terrible way to wake up anon.

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>>33521899
>I pretty sure he was asking how many foxes should talon include in his harem
Hence the first comment about willpower.

Honestly, though, I'm probably not going to add too much extra fluffy for now.

>>33521987
>I always get a kick out of how every single fox ignores that she always has her tails somewhere on him.
You both have your reputations. On that note, I'm surprised there hasn't been much player reaction to Taira's open interest in Finn.

>>33521970
I tend to give more time to newer characters when they're introduced.

I will be running a social thread after 'Big Decisions' thread along with a (probably) one-shot. I hope to share the love a bit then.

>>33521987
>I always get a kick out of how every single fox ignores that she always has her tails somewhere on him.
they are trying to ignore it. but failing

>>33521881
>Taira's less sensitive
wait, she is? I assumed she is as sensitive as the rest and some sort of exhibitionist / hedonist

>>33522082
>I'm surprised there hasn't been much player reaction to Taira's open interest in Finn.
He is a cute kid. I am not really surprised thousand year old fox got interested. She is not part of the harem either and personally I do not see a problem with her sleeping with others if she wants.

>>33522082
>On that note, I'm surprised there hasn't been much player reaction to Taira's open interest in Finn.
the way i view it, she isn't a waifu. but a fellow harem protagonist we fool around with while still recognizing that her interest lies elsewhere.

>>33522082
Eh, I'm fine sharing with Finn.

>>33522082
we all enjoy /ss/ especially if there's fluffy tails involved

fluffy tails

>>33510071
If this crit failed it would have been glorious

>>33522082
either what i said in >>33522170
OR if we are gonna seduce her into the harem, its just a case of feeling that acting possessive of her in this point will be counter intuitive. If we want her all to ourselves we basically have to convince her we are so much better than other men to the point where she shouldn't even bother with them.
Throwing a tantrum about her showing interest in others is counter productive to that goal

>>33522082
>On that note, I'm surprised there hasn't been much player reaction to Taira's open interest in Finn.

I honestly don't think Talon would care very much. Different relationship compared to the others.

>>33522244
>>33522170
>>33522131
Yeah. She is not Lynn.

>>33521881
She's not a dragon grill so meh

>>33522109

>wait, she is? I assumed she is as sensitive as the rest and some sort of exhibitionist / hedonist

I think he meant socially sensitive. As in she gives a lot less of a crap how it looks.

>>33522303
Or a demon/devil grill.
I want a demon/devil grill.

>>33522322
No thanks

Dragon Grill is Love, Dragon Grill is Life

>>33522351
You're just jealous of her infernal magitech.

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I find the different player approaches to Taira and the other girls fascinating.

>>33522109
>wait, she is? I assumed she is as sensitive as the rest and some sort of exhibitionist / hedonist
Well, she's that as well. It's more that she's had a lot more partners than most foxes and is considerably more accustomed to having her tails stroked.

>>33522305
No, I meant physically. It's been noted in quite a few scenes that she doesn't mind if you touch her tails whereas every other fox freaks out a bit.

>>33522373
>No, I meant physically. It's been noted in quite a few scenes that she doesn't mind if you touch her tails whereas every other fox freaks out a bit.

Now that is interesting. I always assumed she had about the same just didn't care at all. Poor Vad. He is ruined for marriage now.

Though all this makes me wonder just what it looks like when she does that in the fox social sense.

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>>33522486
>Though all this makes me wonder just what it looks like when she does that in the fox social sense.
Stroking of tails is the equivalent of kissing in public as far as most foxes are concerned. A fox wrapping their tails around somebody or generally placing them close to the person is like holding hands. Taira gets away with it because she's the former chief and she has a reputation for being promiscuous.

Just going to mention an idea social scene I had a while back that sounded fun. Since they'll be a social one pretty soon.

Get Finn, Talon, Mal, and Vad all drunk as hell in a room. Leading to Talon wrapping his arms around Vad and just being like "Did I ever tell you how great you are Vad? Because you are." While half passed out.

>>33522743
> A fox wrapping their tails around somebody or generally placing them close to the person is like holding hands.
>holding hands.


Too lewd.

>>33522912
Talon and Mal can use magic to avoid ever getting drunk. Just need to challenge everyone else to a drinking contest.

>>33522743
Is Talon an ass man or boob man?

>>33523002
Yeah but it isn't like he doesn't sometimes not do so. Though might be a bad idea if Mal is sober. Because I don't trust Mal around a drunk Talon. Who knows what he may wake up to.

>>33523068
a tail man

>>33524192
All men are tail mans. Doesn't answer the question.

>>33522743
oh god

oh god

so talon pretty much grabbed vad and forced a kiss on him mid-battle, and he greeted Sarryn with a long, tender kiss. No wonder...

>>33524389

Brings new meaning to "Please continue?" doesn't it?

>>33524522
Not really, no. Just confirms "please continue" to mean exactly what we taught it meant.

>>33524565
Though now I see that 4 tails guy using Talon every time he feels like getting laid. Yaoi fuel everywhere.

>>33524623
we already know there are smutty novels
with all this fox yaoi fuel around I bet we will soon see smutty yaoi novels about talon male foxes

>>33525034
"Oh talon baby It won't fit!" "Don't worry Vad. Anuses self lubricate." "Really?" "Not really you fucking idiot. Clench your teeth I'm going in dry."

>>33525101
that was cringe worthy. not romantic at all.

>>33525424
Yes. Like pretty much all 99 percent of Yaoi smut. Trust me I know people who talk about this shit all day long to me.

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>>33524389
>so talon pretty much grabbed vad and forced a kiss on him mid-battle, and he greeted Sarryn with a long, tender kiss. No wonder...
For Vad it would probably be closer to having his ass grabbed mid-battle. Karise definitely saw your approach to Sarrn as intimate, however - Sarrn wouldn't have thought the same as the social mores around tails don't apply to children and he's only recently become an adult.

>>33523068
Talon is equal opportunity. Probably more T than A, though.