well, I misclicked on the pic... oh well.

So, was the gadolinium dragon from last thread okay?
Not sure, since thread died right after.

>>33311114
I added it, thought it was great. I barely even needed to PR it.

What's the word for a group of dragons? Flock?

Observable only from afar, the Fluorine dragon is a yellowish, ever-aloft affair with unusually smooth scales, making it appear that they have patterned skin rather than proper scales. These scales grow and regrow at an alarming rate, but without this rapidly regenerating outer layer, they would soon find their skin eaten through.

Light and not particularly dense, Fluorine dragons are ludicrously quick to please or anger, but relatively talkative at range. They lack the inherent defenses common to many dragons such as the protections against lesser magics or an aura of unnatural fear, but make up for it in several other ways. The aura of a Fluorine dragon is entirely natural and may vary by exposure; nearly all things react violently, causing explosions, the production of acids and poisons, with water being one of the most dangerous. Only certain, particularly resilient Noble dragons, and other Fluorine dragons, can safely interact with them.

Though intelligent, they are short-lived, and so are willing to take risks that few except Franciums or Chlorines would tenant. They have been seen as far south as Mont-Eiresen, though those who roam outside of their native range care little for the havoc they cause. Those who live outside the Arctic know little of a Fluorine's pleasant demeanor, having only seen reports of the devistation left when a group of them flies over.

Fluorine dragons have no true breath weapon, and unusually for Fluid dragons, have rather strong teeth, though they prefer to fight with a blast-shaping wing-buffet or direct contact. With the proper preparation and runes they can be overcome, though one should be wary of allowing such a corpse to react with their own lands.

Attacking a Fluorine dragon is a folly for any man. To withstand the constant overpressure shell, acidic mists, concentrated toxins, flame and even electrical discharges requires nearly draconic might, and any violent contact as devastating for the assailant as the dragon.

>>33311710
A flight or a wyre

>>33311710
According to M:tG It's a storm :^)

>>33311790
I used the old description as a base, adjusted the tone, incorporated fluff and suggestions from other threads

comments? anyone?

>>33310725
Dragons still undescribed: element numbers, 61-63, 65-69, 71, 89

A-am I alone in this thread?

>>33311710
A brood

>>33314421
Just lurking

> Oxygen dragon is nothing but hot air.

>>33314594
hot air with legions of dragonzombies

well, keep the thread alive lurkers, I've got to stack firewood and I'm not finished writing the element I'm working on

>>33315151
Okay

>>33310725
This is a very cool project, have a bump

>>33316322
wanna help us write? We still need to flesh out the world, a few dragons, the arctic race and the bestiary.

>>33316322
or any ideas you have really. just put stuff out there and we'll talk about it

does anyone know what happens when electricity meets a strong magnetic field?

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>>33310725
>He still goes to 1d4chan

>>33317288
care to tell us where we should go then, oh knowledgeable one?

>>33317256
Generally one creates the other like an electromagnet or a turbine that rotates a magnet inside a copper coil. They are both represented by excitations in the electromagnetic field that permeates the universe. I don't know for a fact what would happen, but I'd assume it'd either be constructive or destructive interference.

>>33311188
Thanks.
One idea I had for them is that since gadolinium is used in nuclear reactors for both control rods and reactor shielding, Radiant dragons wouldn't burn themselves out while under the effect of their venom.
They'd lose their Radiant abilities, though, so only the really short-lived ones like Francium would consider it. And it'd have to be reapplied, since the venom's effects wear off for Radiants.

Although I figured if the worked, stuff like wearing lots of boron or lead would as well.

>>33317807
I'm trying to figure out what would happen if a Silver blasted an extremely magnetic dragon.

>>33317847
were you the one who wrote the neodymium?

>>33317807
>>33317881
I figured whatever magnetic thing the dragon was doing would get a lot more powerful for a split second.
Which isn't necessarily a good thing.

Yes, I wrote Neodymium.

>>33317966
I found out that Holmium is the strongest magnetic element... I changed the Neodymium slightly to reflect that.

>>33317881
I'd go with that the electricity acts like solar wind does when it interacts with the earth's magnetic field. So basically Unless the blast is sufficiently powerful, the magnetism would cause it to curve around the other dragon wrecking everything around it. If the blast was sufficiently powerful it would also be deflected around destroying the surroundings, but some would make it and cause damage.

>>33317966
>>33318016
Who is doing what elements right now? I'd like to write some, but I don't want to start on stuff you guys are already working on.

>>33318024
I'll go with that... I thought it might do that but I was holding out for an expert opinion if there was one

>>33318055
Working on Holmium, that's all. Have some ideas for Erbium but not sure I'll get around to it. Also, I remember someone saying they were working on that one, though I don't remember who

>>33318059
I'm no expert so that's all citation needed. I just find physics really fascinating. So much so that I'm debating a double major with theoretical physics and chemical or genetic engineering.

>>33318097
that's more than I've got. I find physics tedious. Probably because pendulums (snore) were my first exposure

>>33311710
Kind of feel in this setting a group should be known as a molecule of dragons.

>>33318016
Yeah, I knew about that but didn't put those as the most magnetic since they're only used as pole pieces since they only have their own magnetic field without being exposed to one at 15K or below. While Neodymium can be used to make permanent magnets.

But do what you want, I don't mind, just explaining my reasoning.

>>33318194
oh... one freaking line and I missed it. dammit wikipedia. I didn't see the tiny note about needing to be cold. ok, reversing those changes

>>33318179
I agree... oh this is too good to not use

Will be rejoining this effort later and probably start writing again once I stop feeling awful after having had a wisdom tooth pulled... I have no idea how long that will take, though.

>>33318269
It'd still probably be able to overpower a Neodymium if it had another dragon using magnetism on it. Or some other magnetic effect.
It just can't form a magnetic field on it's own.
Neodymium's actually the same, it's just it's main use are in alloys that are the strongest permanent magnets, and that's the only thing it's good for besides lasers, which I gave it for a breath weapon.

There's a few others like that, where alloys are magnetic so the dragon is.
Niobium is an example.

>>33310725
shit reading threw your elements leads to weird factoids.

Like the is Polonium in tobacco. So some of your lung cancer might not be from the chemical carcinogens, but from the radioactive contaminants.

Or that bismuth is also technically radioactive. Not that anyone in the setting would ever notice, as it's halflife is too long (1 billion time the age of the universe).

>>33311710
no consistent term, tracing back the following have been used historically.
flight, flock, wing, brood, and more. And that's only in english

>>33318469
I think I'll have it follow the Yttrium path, live in cold climes and only during winter. I'm to lazy to rewrite the entire entry

>>33318599
Glad you learned something!

Holmium dragons are somewhat small among dragons, standing only ten feet at the shoulder on average. Long and lithe, they are one of the few completely wingless dragons. Silvery in color with a yellow tarnish, this dragon looks slightly like a wingless Silver, though their scales are much longer, almost needle-like, giving the dragon a rugged outline.

Holmiums are one of the few Metallics that willingly travel the tundras. Due to some quirk of their physiology, when they are chilled they exhibit the ability to manipulate magnetic fields. This ability has proven indispensable, so much so that they are rarely found anywhere there isn't snow for at least part of the year.

During winter Holmiums are the ultimate manipulator of magnetic phenomena. So strong are their abilities that they do not have wings because they do not need them, instead harnessing the magnetic field of the very earth to lift themselves. They can also eliminate their magnetic field entirely, as so not to become the center of a maelstrom of every metallic item in the area, as well as activating it in a specific direction. Areas with several Holmiums often have agreements stipulating that they will not use their abilities within a certain distance of any village or city to prevent every iron tool from becoming a deadly projectile.

Though their scales are soft, their abilities make up for it; as long as they are surrounded by cold they have nothing to fear from any dragon or mortal, save a few of the Radiants.

Fortunately for both dragons and mortals, Holmiums are slow to anger and quite willing to work with others, frequently assisting mortal wizards and alchemists if they ask politely.

Holmium tarnish powder is frequently sought after as a curiosity by alchemists, wizards and those nobility who take an interest in the unusual. The powder under daylight is yellow, but when placed under special clear glass, becomes pink, orange or red, depending on the glass.

>comments?

>>33318690
most likely to effect my life is in DFRPG where the pc use birdshot to hunt fairies, and if I ever feel like being a dick I'll have them have bought bismuth instead of steel shot.

>>33318907
Very interesting, especially the magnetic flight.

taking request for which one to draw next, otherwise I'm starting at the top.

>>33319589
unfortunately I can't decide between all of them, so I guess start at the top

bump

>>33319727
OK then H it is

I'm just going to share what I have on this.

Erbium dragons, easily recognizable by their lithe bodies and rosey pink color, somehow manage to be reclusive and social at the same time. They are relatively rare by draconic standards and prefer to live away from others, speaking both of dragons and non-dragons alike. They do not care for the political or economic workings of society at large, and most Erbiums whose locations are known patiently turn down offer after offer to come to the settlements of the humanoid races.

Yet, despite this, these same Erbium dragons entertain frequent visitors. They enjoy casual conversation with the strangers that come seeking them out much more than offers of business or trade. The reason that people seek them out, whether for wisdom or to request them to come to their cities, is because they have a well-established reputation as love gurus. The advice of an erbium dragon on romantic matters is eloquent expressed and reliably accurate, and couples who have the blessing of an Erbium dragon are known to have a long and happy relationship. Even other dragons yield to the expertise of Erbiums in this field,

Erbiums, for their part, enjoy this role and love to see happy endings for true lovers. Their advice is freely given to those that come to them, but as much as any city would be happy to have an Erbium patron within its borders, such arrangements are rare to come and never last long. Erbiums that mingle with the humanoid races find too many instances of shallow love and false romances, whose failures are immediately apparent under their eyes. For this reason, only the rare Erbium youngling will come to densely populated areas, usually driven by a motivation to try to educate the local populace on the meaning of true love. Finding themselves overwhelmed, these younglings soon retreat back to their comfortable solitude.

In terms of their physical capabilities, Erbium dragons

>>33321990
I'm curious where you got the matchmaker aspect.

>>33322062
Not the previous anon, but the dragon's don't have to be *entirely* defined by their element's characteristics. For example, that story about the helium dragonmothers using second sound to talk to their egg.

Yes, second sound exists, but using it to talk to your baby and aid its instincts is just a sweet little addition. It's not a characteristic of helium itself.

>>33322136
I didn't mean that as a criticism at all. I just couldn't find any reference to it whether I looked at gemstone meanings or on the wiki page

>>33322231
by 'reference' I meant that I couldn't see anything romantic attached to the element, where helium does exhibit the Second Sound, so I wanted to know is all

>>33321990
Agggh, was working on this one, making mention of their use in optical amplifiers.
Oh well, this is much better.
That means don't take it down, I prefer your idea.

>>33321990
>In terms of their physical capabilities, Erbium dragons
please, continue

I think ErbiumAnon got stuck and doesn't know how to finish...

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>>33323514
...wtf...

good job... really good job

>>33322062
Well, to some extent, it's what >>33322136 is saying. I could have just looked at erbium's properties and made something based entirely off that, but I wanted to do something with more variety. I'm not going to lie, it's just because erbium is pink. I was also thinking of adding something about little Erbium dragon totems being occasionally given to lovers as a means of expressing hope that their union is long-lasting and good, as well as the idea of jewelry in the form of very nice wedding rings.

And yes, the point I was trying to make was that I couldn't think of what to actually do for its physical properties. If >>33322511 has a suggestion for that, I'm game to hear it.

>>33323791
These types of detail are what makes things stand out, which is good.

>>33323514
I really like your alternative takes on some of the dragon species. It's really good that we don't just have tons of dragons differ significantly in shape instead of just being palette swaps, and the art helps highlight that.

>>33323791
>because erbium is pink
as good a reason as any. I feel like I'm not creative enough to pull something like that off.

for physical stuff, I saw that Er alloys are unusually good at working at liquid-helium temps, so maybe they could range farther than any other Metallic, able to live even where the Fluid dragons live and are the only real contact between the two types.

>>33323791
Well, erbium doped fiber increases the intensity of light passing through it when exposed to foreign sources of light.
So a relatively weak laser weapon that's strong when the dragon is exposed to ambient light would work.
Best laymans explanation is here http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/definition/erbium-amplifier

Europium dragons are quite reclusive, living in deserts and other dry places, content to master the craft of glassworking and have little to do with the outside world beyond showing off their latest piece.

Stout and businesslike, they remind many people of dwarves that happened to be dragon-shaped. Their scales are a dark silver with sulfur-yellow tarnish powder which they take great pains to collect for use in their glass making.

Europium glass can be any color and is invariably exquisite, they do not favor any particular color or style, each individual preferring to develop their own. The defining characteristic of Europium glass is that it glows with its own light. None know how, though many have tried to imitate the rune that is carved on every Europium piece, but copying it does nothing regardless of how precisely one etches the rune.

A small piece of Europium glass is worth enough to feed a family for a month, the larger pieces are sold to the kings of wealthy countries for exorbitant sums.

>>33324365
I feel like this is really barebones, any suggestions?

>>33324390
Something involving the Europium anomaly?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europium_anomaly
A bit about what exactly their physical abilities are would also help.

>>33324365
The scales of a europium dragon can glow similarly to the glassware that they make at will, and this light is able to detect toxic materials in food, drink, or the flesh of an organic. It is for this reason that royalty will occasionally hire a Europium dragon in order to prevent assassinations.

This property is not understood well, and as a result many have the belief that ingesting the tarnish powder of a Europium dragon will lead to good health as well as resistance to poison. These beliefs are entirely unconfirmed, and those eccentrics that take this idea to excess sometimes wind up dying of what appears to be a strange disease. It is unknown if this is caused by the ingestion of the tarnish or if it is just a coincidental infection among the upper class.

>>33310725
Is there nothing on the 1d4chan page, or is it just not showing up for me?

Anyway, I'm surprised this hasn't been done sooner. Have a bump at least.

>>33326482
remove the slash you silly

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>>33326690
Oh, now I feel stupid.

Bump

I honestly thought the thread would be gone this morning.

Europium dragons are quite reclusive, living in deserts and other dry places, content to master the craft of glassworking and have little to do with the outside world beyond showing off their latest piece.

Stout and businesslike, they remind many people of dwarves that happened to be dragon-shaped. Their scales are a dark silver with white tarnish powder which they take great pains to collect for use in their glass making. Europiums can cause their scales glow with their own light, and when properly engraved with runes continue to do so after being shed, making them valuable heatless light sources for miners and alchemists that specialize in studying volatile substances. The glow is known to be able to detect poisons in food, drink or body, and a few Europium dragons have been known to offer their services as food-testers in exchange for glassmaking materials that they would normally have trouble acquiring.

The mechanism by which this detection works is poorly understood, and some believe that ingesting the tarnish powder of a Europium dragon will lead to good health as well as resistance to poison. These beliefs are entirely unconfirmed, and those eccentrics that take this idea to excess sometimes wind up dying of what appears to be a strange disease. It is unknown if this is caused by the ingestion of the tarnish or if it is just a coincidental infection among the upper class.

Europium glass can be any color and is invariably exquisite, they do not favor any particular color or style, each individual preferring to develop their own. The defining characteristic of Europium glass is that it glows with its own light, usually red or blue, but green and yellows aren't unheard of. None know how, though many have tried to imitate the rune that is carved on every Europium piece, but copying it does nothing regardless of how precisely one etches the rune.

>cont

>>33332367
A small piece of Europium glass is worth enough to feed a family for a month, the larger pieces are sold to the kings of wealthy countries for exhorbitant sums.

Europium dragons are a protected species in many areas. They are poor fighters with a small but very hot flame that they use for their craft and scales that are only slightly harder than a Copper's.

>This feels better to me, thanks >>33324979

>>33321990
are you still here? I think everyone likes your entry too much to touch it without permission, and we're all wondering if the ideas we've given you have helped at all.

>>33310725
>no unonoctium

what's even the point?

>I did a Radon because they're important in regards to the dwarves.

Radon dragons are the only variety of Fluid that is regularly found outside of the Arctic. The smallest of the dragons, only the size of a large cat at most, they make their homes in granite bedrock. Being the only Radiant Fluid dragon, little is known about their habits, and further study is complicated by the fact that they are highly territorial and do not let anyone near their homes, though some nests have been abandoned for reasons known only to themselves, and are hotbeds of exploration and study by those wizards seeking to understand these enigmatic creatures.

Shorter than a man's knee, they are reddish, wingless creatures with heavy front legs and claws able to dig through most kinds of rock. They do not have scales, but their hide is thick enough to stop anything less than a crossbow and their blood is composed of the gas that they constantly exhale. They breathe a yellow-green flame which is toxic in enclosed spaces.

A dwarven legend states that it is these creatures that drove them to the sea. When they accidentally disturbed a nest of the creatures, the Radons swarmed into their tunnels and into their halls through the connecting tunnels, poisoning the air with their breath and blood. Some settlements were saved by the thick doors at the entrance to their cities, doors that are now sealed with lead.

They are suspected to be intelligent, but no one has managed to talk to one. Though some dracologists have reported that they scrape their claws against the stone as a warning to go away.

There are occasional reports of a Uranium, Thorium or Radium dragon occasionally laying a Radon egg, and some suspect that this the origin of the creatures

>comments? I borrowed a lot from the original entry, but there was a lot to fill in.

>>33332505
Just checking back in now, I've been busy studying for a final exam. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I meant to leave that part for you guys to fill in. What I've written so far is the extent of my ideas about Erbium dragons. Regarding the physical and other aspects of the species that I didn't elaborate on, you guys can do if you'd like, otherwise I will eventually come in and do it myself. Reflecting on things now and recalling that erbium is (I think) used in glasswork, I wonder if it would be a nice touch for their scales to shatter like glass when struck, affording them a retributive self-defense against attackers but also leaving them against the thought of violence themselves. I already envision them as lithe and perhaps even a bit angular or sharp... It brings to mind the idea of a rose with thorns.

>>33332869
The only thing I don't like about it is the implication that all or most dwarven communities are connected by tunnels. They live all over the place, so that would literally require mile-long tunnels in an almost world-wide network. I guess that could be a thing, but I find it hard to accept... Also, the fact that Radons would have to have emerged in many separate places and in large numbers to spread across such a network in a manner like you seem to describe.

My suggestion would be for it "Radon outbreaks" to be a rare and isolated event. Every once in a rare while, a dwarven community digs too deep and uncovers a cavern that is home to a small Radon dragon nest. In most cases, the community must be abandoned, the local dwarves scattering to other nearby communities as refugees. In recent times, some of these dwarves have used their new technologies to take to the seas, when for whatever reason going to another community was not possible or preferable. As a Radon outbreak would be rare, so to would be this event- which makes sense, as the sea dwarves are suppose to be a very small minority, right?

>>33333494
I guess I wasn't clear... I figured that there would be some communities that were connected if they were close enough, like how large cities sometimes swallow big towns, because in order to get a large enough number of sea-dwarves it would take several communities' worth of people (a fraction of the total population, but enough that they would fill several ships, because otherwise they'd just move into another settlement). I'll clarify that. I figured that the first Radon outbreak (good word choice by the way) would have happened in one of the large dwarven communities, and after that all connected communities would install heavy doors so that the gas wouldn't spread like it did the first time.

Sorry about the late reply, my laptop was nearly dead and it took a while to find an outlet

Changed it to reflect those facts
>Dwarven legend states that it is these creatures that drove them to the sea. When one of the larger dwarven cities accidentally disturbed a nest of the creatures, the Radons swarmed into their tunnels and into their halls through the connecting tunnels, poisoning the air with their breath and blood. From time to time another settlement will disturb a nest of the creatures, but they learned well; any community that is connected to another will have thick doors at each end of the underground road, though the majority of dwarven cities are connected by normal roads rather than underground tunnels.

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>>33321990
In terms of their physical capabilities, Erbium dragons have several defenses, though few ways to attack, which suits them perfectly fine since they are dedicated pacifists. Their scales are reasonably strong but shatter when hit with enough force, often flinging pieces back at the attacker. In addition, there are specialized scales on their sides and back that stand up sharply when they curl up, which is their usual response to a physical attack. They will retaliate if they must, but will always aim to incapacitate, sometimes sitting on their adversary if necessary.

>I was picturing scales like this lizard's, whose defense mechanism is the same.

I just had the image of an Erbium painting itself green from the neck down and wearing a flower-petal collar for whatever-halloween-is-called-there

>>33335842
Erbiums are one of the only Metallic dragons that can tolerate the temperatures of the Arctic, making them the only Metallic species that speaks with Fluid dragons.

>added this because I like the idea of matchmakers being everywhere

>>33323514
Looking at it again... I was envisioning them without arms, since shoulders kind of don't happen on marine or airborne life. They kind of look tacked-on, if you know what I mean.

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>>33337135
did you make this up or is this a real thing?

bump

bumping to keep it alive until I finish

>>33323514
Hydrogen dragon should be a small and slim water dragon.

>>33314594
Oxygen dragon should be a greenish-blue fire-breathing dragon with half-transparent scales.

>>33339772
did you read the description? It's a blimp

bump once more, come on Rune, Antimony, lurkers... talk

>>33341826
You want me to expand one of my entries, or have any questions about them?

>ununseptium
this and a few other incredibly huge, unimaginably rare dragons are still unconfirmed as to whether or not they are truth or legends. ununseptium is supposedly a relatively calm dragon, with powers that can warp reality itself. all of the other mythical beasts of this nature are said to be so volatile, they annihilate themselves moments after birth.
priests and scryers allude to the possibility of yet more mythical creatures of this magnitude, but most scholars and sorcerers see it as complete fantasy

>>33339951
It's both, actually. Anybody want to see one in particular or should I just go down still?

>>33343640
Agg, sorry, lost name.

>>33344619
Fluorine, please

>>33343640
Are there any you feel need to be expanded?

>>33345305
Actually, to be honest, I've lost track of who's done what.

>>33346992
I've done vanadium, palladium, antimony, lanthanum, cerium, neodymium, gadolinium, and rhenium
If you have any questions or thin some should be expanded, I'll answer them now or tommorrow morning.

>>33347170
other than giving you my belated compliments for the Rhenium, I can't think of anything, but I'll think about it overnight and let you know

well, I'm going to sleep, hope this is still here and that all the anons that are sick/tired/busy are no longer so.

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>>33347170
I've been really busy for the past few days so I haven't been able to do much. Hopefully stuff will clear up soon. I've done oxygen, sodium, aluminum, potassium, germanium, selenium, bromine, niobium, molybdenum, technetium, ruthenium, rhodium, cadmium, indium, tellurium, barium, platinum, about 2/3 of the magic system, and a lot of religion stuff that I posted here but I don't think went into 1d4chan.

Is there anything I need to fix in that stuff, and besides that is there anything specific I should work on that's new? I may not be able to post it for a while but I will work on it.

Hopefully this thread will stay through tomorrow so this can be seen.

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