>>33208856
>>>What's the card you gave me?
"Why did I become a Kamen Rider?"

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>>33208856
>See filename. For reference purposes.

>>33208856
>magus?

>Writing

>>33209245
still catching up last thread. will post here later.

>Card?
>Magus?

I nod to myself.

"Alright. What's the card? Why did my clothes change?" I ask, looking at mom.

She pauses, holding her finger to her chin in thought.

"Wellllllll...." She starts, in the tone I know too well... Sella sighs, and shakes her head. "I found that 'blank' card a while ago, when investigating some disturbances around town."

"So, after examining it, I decided to try and adapt it for use." She shrugs. "I would have preferred to let Sella or Liz use it, but since you were in trouble..."

"Lady Irisviel... You know that you could have stopped that without issue, and kept Shirou from being involved in all of this..." Sella sighs.

...Sella knows about these things, too? I blink.

Mom just shrugs, and smiles innocently.

"Well, Shirouling is a growing boy. This will be good for him, and Kerry and I were planning on teaching him some things, anyway, if he kept on the way he was going." She says. "And if I just stepped in and solved the problem, he'd never learn anything, would he? Besides, it's one more person keeping an eye on Ilya, isn't it?"

...Sella seems to be thinking for a moment...

I cough.

"So, what is it?" I ask. "You explained how you got it, but not what it does."

Mom's expression brightens.

"Ah, yes. It's... Somewhat related to my family's ancestral Magic." She says. "Basically, it reaches out of the world, and latches onto a 'Unique Existence', then draws on the power of it. What 'Installing' does is temporarily overwrite your power and body with that power."

"...Unique existence?"

"A legendary soul. Like King Arthur, or, oh.... Miyamoto Musashi? Someone who's deeds can't be recreated by normal people, who's story is known to the world."
(1/2)

>>33210370
(2/2)

I nod. That's good enough for me. Though I still have a nagging feeling that something is off... I shake my head and continue.
"Then... Magus? What does that mean?"

"Ah... Kerry and I can use magic." Mom says, nodding. "Well, magecraft, but since you're completely new to this...It's close enough."
...I want to say I'm stunned, but... I can't really be all that surprised. I knew something was odd about my adoptive parents...

"I'm guessing there's a reason I wasn't told? Does Ilya know?" I ask, rubbing my forehead, and she nods again.

"Magic is to be kept secret from normal people. There's only so much that the knowledge can be spread." She says. "Ilya doesn't know, anyway, and her finding out would be... Bad. Which is part of the reason I wanted you to know."

...I nod. Since she didn't say anything specific, I don't think she'll tell me, so...

Was there anything else I needed to ask about...?

>Write in

>>33210395
Then, what was that black dog?
Also, where did this card come from, you said you just found one?

>>33210543
These work really well, might as well ask them.

>>33210395
So what am I supposed to do now? You said that magic is supposed to be kept a secret from normal people, so I guess I'm not normal anymore.

>Black dog
>You just found one?


"What were the dogs?" I ask, remembering that part of last night. "They weren't anywhere near normal."

...I realize I'm not feeling the pain I'd expect from those wounds. Reaching down, I feel my leg, finding-

...Absolutely nothing. No marks, no pain...

"Sella and I patched you up. We both possess some healing magecraft, and it was better than letting you bleed out." Mom seems to notice my shock, and nods.

"As for the dogs... I think they were a part of that boy's 'self'." She continues, rubbing her chin in thought. "Either magecraft, or something more powerful..."

"Anyway. They're parts of that student, as you saw when hurting them harmed him." She shakes her head. "That's all I can tell at the moment."

I rub my forehead.

"Two more things, then. Where did the card come from? And what am I supposed to do now, since I'm not 'normal' anymore?" I ask, letting out a sigh.

"The card.... I don't know where it's from. It was near an abnormality in the mana flow around town, that I took care of. " Mom shakes her head. "As for what you'll do... Help keep the magic things around Fuyuki in check? The town's caretaker is out of the country for the near future, and since I'm going back to work with Kerry for a while..."

...Protect... Fuyuki?


Without a second thought, I nod.

"Absolutely." I say. "What all do I get to work with? This card and whatever I can manage?"

Mom chuckles.

"I knew you'd say that. Sella, Liz... Please help him out if he needs it." She says, getting nods from the two.

"Anyway, one more thing. I'm embeded a spell on your hand, to draw in and convert mana to prana, since you have no practice with it, and it's faster than teaching you all at once." She continues, and I look at both hands. Nothing.

(1/2)

>>33212197
(2/2)

"Oh, don't be silly. It's not visible when it's not working." Mom seems to have expected that. "Anyway, do what you did when you activated the Class Card. Visualize whatever you did, and let it trigger. I included a couple of basic spells in it, as an additional precaution."

She looks at the clock, and seems somewhat surprised.

"Oh, it looks like I need to go, or I'll miss my plane. Bye Shirouling, Sella, Liz~" She says, standing up and waving quickly.

....Within moments, she's out the door, luggage in hand. I can hear the screech of her driving fading into the distance.

Of course she scheduled things that tight...

...There's an awkward silence as I look over at Sella, who's somewhat stunned looking, still. Liz seems unconcerned, as normal...

....


>Excuse myself, and slip out. Maybe I could meet with a friend today?
>Try and talk with Sella?
>Try and talk with Liz?
>Write in

>>33212206
So am I just supposed to go around town at night looking for weird stuff?

>>33212206
>>Excuse myself, and slip out. Maybe I could meet with a friend today?

>>33212324
Does this Shirou have any friends other than Issei and Shinji? Because I don't want to hang out with Shinji, and Issei is honestly pretty boring when he isn't crushing on Shirou.

>>33212386
No idea. Isn't there that archer captain girl? I'm surprised the Emiyas haven't made a magus heir.

>>33212206
>>Try and talk with Sella?
Best snap her out of it. We should see about what we can do to practice with this so we're not constantly flying by the seat of our pants.

>>33212421
Ayako? I guess she was sort of Shirou's friend, but he was also like "I'm glad someone knocked some sense into her" when Shinji molested her, so I don't know.

>changing Leysritt's name to Liz
why

>>33212545
Her name in moon is リーゼリット which is pronounced riizeritto
Liz is basically a shortened version of that

Apologies for vanishing. Had to run.

>>33212386
>>33212421
>Those two, basically. Ayako is kinda one, and there are some people you hang around from archery and teaching some people how to fix things.You know a couple of people in your class, as well, but not very well.


>>33212545
It's a nickname as >>33212616
said.

>>33212748
>Let's see if we can't improve our social link with ayako

>>33212206
>>Try and talk with Aunt Sella?

>So, two for "Slip out to talk to a friend", one for "Talk to Sella", one for "What do".

>If anyone wants to change vote, or add one, you've got a couple of minutes.

>>33213259
Whoops. That finally went through, and it was wrong about the numbers.
>Two for Friend, two for Sella., one for What do.

>>33212206
>>Excuse myself, and slip out. Maybe I could meet with a friend today?
Ayako, perhaps?

>>33212206
Did Mom just give us a simple magic crest? Who's circuits did she use, I wonder? Her own? I guess she has plenty, being an Einzbern homunculus, but that's a pretty big gift.

>Talk to Liz.

She's more polite than Sella, and has orders to help us out. Let's learn all we can about magecraft while we have the chance.

>>33213259
Talk with Sella, please!

Sorry for vanishing. My comp's acting funny, so I can't really ... post or write at the moment. I'll let you know when I'm back, which should be in about 20, if my guess is right.

>>33213439
Switching to Sella.

Still, we need magecraft info.

>>33214643
So, it took 30-ish.

And the vote is.... Sella.

>>33210395
>Magic

How close to canon is this quest? Fate/Apocrypha or Kaleid Liner?

>>33217256
Looks more like Prisma Illya from the trappings

>>33217256
We're living with Ilya, both Iri and Kerry are alive, and Sella and Liz are maids. Also, class card.


I think we're Kaleid Liner.

>>33217312
Yeah this is Kaleid Liner... but it probably has somethings different, I mean the title is Heroic Liner, right?

>>33217311
>>33217312
Rule of cool then.

I was more referring to how hard or soft the setting is but Kaleid is pretty lax.

>>33217355
Yeah, I think so. I prefer the more serious takes on the setting, but this works well enough.

>>33217368
>>33217396
Well a serious Nasu Quest is too complicated, so this one is nice enough. Now we need for Shirou to get a Vampire as his enemy so he can sword it to death.

>>33217462
I think we need Shirou to get a SHOCKER as his enemy so he can RIDER KICK it to death

>>33217596
He needs a Werewolf as an enemy. Werewolves are cool right?

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Farewell Golden. It was fun.

>>33208856
>over four hours since the last dialogue post

why, GOM?

>>33218686
>>33218757
I ain't ded. I got distracted by cleaning up after dogs. I'll blitz a post out by 15 past.

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>>33218841
Sweet.

>Try and talk with Sella

I sigh.

"Sella, is something wrong?" I ask catching her attention as Liz yawns and leans back.

...She's asleep again.

"Oh, I'm just surprised by Lady Irisviel cutting it so close." Sella shakes her head."Though I shouldn't be..."

I nod. Mom has that tendency...

"Yeah, she really does..." I say, looking to the door. "So... You know 'magecraft'?"

"Yes. Liz and I are... Well, I'm a magecraft specialist, while she's combat." She nods.

"Then... What can you tell me? I mean, mom only said 'a couple of basic spells', so... What are they?"

There's a pause, as Sella glances at my right hand.

"Hm... Lady Irisviel requested that I impart knowledge of 'Reinforcement', a limited form of our 'wishcraft', and a minor hypnosis spell, if you need to eliminate someone's memory of a conflict." She says, nodding. "The Wishcraft is nothing special. Adjusting the odds slightly in your favor on small things"

"...Hypnosis?" I ask. "Do I really need to....?"

She nods again.

"Far better than killing them, don't you think?" She asks.

...That... Is true enough.

I thank her for the information, and rub the bridge of my nose.


>Go see if a ...friend? has the afternoon free
>Go try and look around town for anything suspicious
>Write in

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>>33219495
>>Go see if a ...friend? has the afternoon free
A distraction would be nice, especially if it's Ayako.

>>33219495

>Go see if a ...friend? has the afternoon free

The way you phrase friend has me thinking we're about to go on the Shinjitrain.

>>33219495
>>Go try and look around town for anything suspicious

>>33219495
I think we need to take a page from Original Shirou, and get to dojoing.

>Ask if they can start teaching me how to magic right now.

>>33219495
>>Go see if a ...friend? has the afternoon free
Mitsuzuri is underutilsed.

>>33219733
Crap, I just realised.
I'm not as well versed in this as main Fate, so I have to ask - where's Taiga? Is she still our Fuji-nee?

>>33219495
>>>Go try and look around town for anything suspicious
Time to meet a mysterious monster, or a cute Sad Vampire.

>>33219813
She's teaching over at the middle school. Nothing to worry about.

>>33219813
She's still teaching.

She also happens to have an interest in our father.

>>33219495
>>Go try and look around town for anything suspicious
Hero time

>Friend:
>>33219592
>>33219624
>>33219733

>Look for trouble:
>>33219629
>>33219822
>>33219927

>Einzebern Maid Consultation Room
>>33219630

>Any vote changes or additions?

>>33220040
I haven't voted yet but I'll make the break with a vote for looking for a friend.

If I must spruce it up then someone who may have been affected by last night's adventures.

>>33220040
>Friend.
I also vote for this. So far, this seems a little...well, a little bloodless. Throwing in a new character (especially a character who ISN'T what we expect their canonical personality to be) to play as sidekick/buddy is a good way to stir stuff up

>>33220353
>not wanting the bloody choice

Here lies OP

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>>33221833

A dirge for the fallen

>>33221833
>>33226155
>>33221874
Alright, this I deserve.


I fell asleep mid-writing, I'm sorry to say.
Update within 30.

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>Head on out to meet a friend

I sigh, walking out the front door. May as well see if anyone's got time to kill.


Flipping out my phone, I page through the few contacts I have... Shinji...Ayaka... Issei... Ayako... Gai...

Hm. Of those... I guess Gai or Ayako are the most likely to be able and willing to meet up with me, I think. Since that argument with Shinji... Well...

A text message to each has Gai's response be rather excitedly wanting to talk with me about last night's TV with me, while Ayako is willing to meet and chat a bit about archery, and the old days.

I immediately reply to Ayako's willingness to talk with a question of 'where'.

A few minutes of hurried messaging later, and we agree on a common meeting ground for students- Ahnenerbe, a cafe near the bridge.

After a nice walk to get there, I find myself waiting a few minutes as the two waitresses run around, serving other customers their lunches and drinks.

Finally, Ayako shows up, dressed in fairly casual clothes.

I wave her over to my table, and she sits down fairly quickly, placing her own order with one of the waitresses.

...There's a brief silence as we both look around the crowd...

"So, Shirou. What did you want to talk about?" Ayako asks, glancing over at me.

>How's archery club these days?
>Notice anything... Weird going on around town?
>Write in

>>33226797
>>How's archery club these days?
Gotta ease into it.

>>33226797
>How's archery club these days?
You don't just open up with "have you seen anything suspicious around town recently?"
Not unless you want to seem crazy.

>>33226797
>How's archery club these days?
Jumping straight to the point is only going to kill the conversation.

>>33226797

>How's archery club these days?
>Also how is Sakura doing these days, and is Shinji not being a dick?

>>33226797
>How's archery club doing these days?
Attempt, and likely fail, to ask about if she's noticed anything odd going on subtly. DC30 Shirou subtlety roll go.

>>33227006
>Shinji
>Not Being a dick
>Ever

>>33227521
Hey we can have hope, right?

>>33227521
Was anyone else mad when Rin risked the world to save his psychotic ass in UBW?

>>33227737
I was more pissed that he survived than anything else to be honest. Seriously, fuck that guy. Rin risking her life and the world to do it was just icing on my raeg cake.
Also, is this quest still alive?

>>33227720
>>33227737
Hopefully OP gives us a situation where we can punch his shi- uhh I'm mean rehabilitate him and teach him how to live his life correctly

>>33227798
>Also, is this quest still alive?
Ah crap. Didn't mean to spoiler that part.

>>33227521
The only times he isn't being a dick is when he's dead.
>>33227737
I didn't quite agree with it but I found it hard to consider just abandoning him based on what information Rin should have had. It was the UBW route after all, not Heaven's Feel.
>>33227800
Those aren't mutually exclusive you know. Dude is bound to learn, eventually, that not everyone will just tolerate his shit.

>>33227800
By killing him? If yes, then 10/10 would aprove this plan.

>>33227737
Nope. I'm a fan of Shinji as a character, and UBW is the only route where he ends up not being a complete ass.

>>33227848
Out of curiosity, what were his good points? I can't remember any, but I haven't played through the game for 5 years. I remember hating the entire Matou family.

>>33227874
He was a cool guy and Shirou's friend, also he can be nice and fun in HF. Nasu said that Shinji in Fate is at his worse, and I totally believe him.

Also Extra Shinji is a bro, so I hope we get that guy as the Shinji here.

>>33227874
UBW is the only route where he survives IIRC and he stops being such a prick to the extent of actually getting along with Sakura after he's hospitalized & recovers post-war.
>http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Shinji_Matou#Unlimited_Blade_Works

>>33228005
You mean /CCC Shinji.
Extra Shinji was a fucking asshole

>>33228040

Extra Shinji was a harmless kid.

>>33228005
HF was the only route where it was revealed that he raped his sister

>>33228085
I mean in HA... aka the Fandisk.

>>33228048
>Harmless kid
>Spent every single moment of extra bragging about how he was going to kill you

>>33228005
Can I get a few specific examples please?
Also, uh, Heaven's Feel? As in we learn that he has been repeatedly raping his sister? I also remember him being a cowardly shit in all routes of the original game. And trying to rape/murder Ayako. And trying to rape Rin, and almost succeding. And being a total shit to rider.

>>33228097

He thought he was playing a game.
His banter was equivalent to an 8 year old in Call of Duty.

>>33228114
Sorry Anon, I was confused, I meant HA, the fandisk where you can have happy fun times with Shinji as a friend, Gil is a little kid and you can go fishing with Lancer. That game.

>>33228095
Ah, okay.

>>33228005
And I'm pretty sure he try to kill Shirou in all routes.

>>33228129
I bet fishing with Lancer would be awesome

>>33228129
Oh. OK, I haven't played that one. I just remember that he was so 'lol' evil and having no redeeming traits at all so I was honestly curious, no trying to bait you.

>>33228157
Lancer is a total bro.

>>33228136
Why did I read that as

>And I'm pretty sure he try to rape Shirou in all routes.

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>>33228157
he gets no fish

>>33228159
Not to say that Shinji is not a dick most of the time, it's just that sometimes you can see that he can be a nice guy... sometimes. So, I don't blame you for thinking that.

>>33226797
Is the quest dead for the day?

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>>33228208

>How's archery these days?
>How's Sakura, and is Shinji less of a dick?

"How's archery club been since I left?" I ask, shaking my head. "Well, last time I asked, I mean."

"We never really got back on our game from losing you." She shakes her head. "You sure you don't wanna rejoin?"

Her expression turns hopeful, and I shrug.

"I still have that scar on my arm, though." I say. "And I've got more time to help people out, if I don't rejoin."

"Yeah. You're way too nice, y'know?" She sighs, then her tone goes half-joking. "Quit helping everyone out, and help us for a bit, would you?"

"Alright. I'll drop by if I have a chance." I chuckle a bit, but nod.


There's a brief silence, as our drinks get brought by...

"Hm... Has Shinji shaped up yet?" I ask.


Ayako's expression is all I need to know the answer.

"Then, uh... Is Sakura at least doing alright?" I shake my head sadly. If he's still being an ass to others, then...

"Yeah. She's actually getting pretty good, and could probably be considered a contender for your empty throne." She nods. "And I don't think she's been having any trouble, otherwise."

I sigh in relief.

"Well, that's good to hear. "

We lapse into silence again, for a while...

"So... Why'd you call me out here, really?"Ayako asks, after a couple of minutes of watching the crowd. Her tone turns teasing, and her eyes glint. "Do you want to help me win that bet with Tohsaka?"

> Notice anything strange going on?
>...You lost me.
>What bet?
>Write in

>>33228260
>>>What bet?
Ayako Route! Ayako Route!

>>33228260
>>What bet?
Wonder if it's the boyfriend thing.

>>33228260
>What bet?

So are we doing new Elememt on the periodic table dense Shirou or what?

>>33228260
>what bet?
Might as well find out whats going on here.

I've never finished a single Fate game. Me knowledge extends only to Shirou likes swords, he's a whole new element of dense, Shinji's a dick, and Archers a troll. That's it.

>>33228305
>>33228334
>density
Shirou has nothing on Natsuru. Nothing.

>>33228334

Shirou's not really that dense.
He's just socially inept on account of being a sword.

>>33228189
The goal of fishing with Lancer wouldn't be to catch any fish
>>33228260
>What bet?

>>33227848
You know he lost his arm and then decided that if he could have only one arm, no one else could have any arms.

>>33228260
>>...You lost me.

>>33228260
>What bet?

Ayako Route!

>>33228136
It was going to be possible to actually team up with him.

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>>33228127

>>33228260
Yes.

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>>33228260
>...You lost me.

>>33228480
Can we not be the densest metal in the universe?

>>33228260
>...You lost me.

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>>33228526
...
No.

>>33228526
We honestly don't know the context though.

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>>33228526
He's not.

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>>33228594

>>33228594
Still outdensed by Kamijou Touma

>>33228617
Secondary please.

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>>33228611
captcha: shrewd doA

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>>33228611
>>33228617
Such ignorance.

>>33228650
You bastard I was waiting for the opportunity to post this

>>33228617
Touma is well aware of zappy dan's interest in him but she is literally the antithesis of his preference.

>>33228692
Touma finally found a girl he liked, sadly she became a fairy and can't do anything anymore.. such is the life of our TouMAN.

>>33228719
Wait I thought that was the ghost chick?

>>33228719
He also liked Itsuwa but kept getting cockblocked until she wound up in jail.

>>33228734
No he finally met the girl of his dreams, who smells nice, has a nice hat and literally killed him and has spent six months with him alone... sadly it will never work.

>>33228759
Touma will never get to put his dick in female Odin.

>>33228759
Shit being Touma is suffering never beimg able to find your perfect waifu

>>33228856
No, that's the funny part, he found his perfect waifu... sadly she became the enemy of the world, and thus he joined her to fight the world to protect her smile.

>>33228882
Yeah, but it's not like Touma wouldn't do the same for anyone else

>What bet?

"....Bet?" I ask, looking at her curiously. "Is this about getting me to join the club again?"

She blinks.
"No, no! Nothing like that! " She says, waving her hands and blushing. "Just, uh, forget I said anything, alright?"

Huh?

I shrug, and nod.

"Anyway, what I was actually going to ask you about is... Have you noticed anything strange around town lately?" I say after a moment. "Like, odd animals running around, or anything 'off'?"

She shakes her head after a minute in thought.

"No, not really. Something happening that you're worried about?" She asks. "

I pause.

...I can't tell her what happened last night. She's 'normal', and cannot be let know...

"No, not really. I saw a couple of odd dogs in the park last night, and figured I'd ask if you had seen anything..." I trail off. "And, well... Since Shinji and I aren't getting along very well, Ayaka's shut in with her books, Issei probably found something to do at the temple, and Gai is... Gai...."

"You thought I'd be the best person to ask, right?" She nods. "Yeah, sorry, but... I've got nothing."

"Ah, well." I shrug. "Let me know if you see anything, okay?"

"Sure thing. And, uh... Don't mention that bet to anyone, would you?" She flushes briefly, and I nod.

...We spend a bit longer talking about random goings-on, and then part ways after we finish up.


>Day 2, Afternoon.

I've got some time free now... What to do with it...

>Go scout the town, and see if anything's up
>See if another friend is willing to talk
>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers
>Write in

>>33228888
I know... just let me have my shipping damn it!

>>33228965
>>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers
Lets get down to business.

>See Illya

>>33228965
>See if another friend is willing to talk
It's Sakura Time

>>33228993
This.
To quote Shirou from heavens feel about how I feel on this issue "Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya"

>>33228965
>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers

>>33228965
>>Go scout the town, and see if anything's up

We gotta do heroic shit, not waifu

>>33228965
Learn magic.

>>33228965
>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers

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>>33228965
>win da Illyab owl

>>33228965
>>Go scout the town, and see if anything's up

>>33228965
>See if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers

>>33229066
>>33229011
>>33228993
This

>>33228965
>Go scout the town, and see if anything's up

We have some hero'ing to do.

>>33228993
This.
Unless Sella is going to "mana transfer."

>>33228965
>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers
Let's understand how this magic works first

>Bursting your bubble, but Ilya is still in her school for a while longer. It was only the high-school that got shut down for the day, after all.

>>33229177
Oh, I thought it was tomorrow because I was retarded.

>>33229177
>That, uh, meant that "If you voted Ilya, you can shift your vote around, because it's not really viable."

>>33229233
>scout the town
>>33229066, here

>>33228965
>>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers

>>33229233
Only samefags voted illya.

>>33228965
>>Head back home and see if Sella is willing to give me some magic pointers
Though I will say
>Ayaka's shut in with her books
I do like the proto cameo.

>>33229233
I think that we have enough votes anyway. There's a pretty clear majority.

>>33229324
>That I do. Writing.

>>33229026
Abondon hope bro.

>>33229423
I will die if this become nasu-PGQ, but with slower QM post times.

>>33228965
>Stand outside Illya's classroom window with a boombox over our head

>>33229463
>PGQ
Please no. I abandoned that shit a long time ago & would rather not end up with another.

>>33229463
>>33229500

PGQ?

>>33229511
Princess Guard Quest. A quest that had a bit of potential. It ended up being slice of life with the pace of a snail (multiple threads just to cover a single day of nothing but idle chatter happening) and waifu wars.

>>33229511
Princess Guard Quest. It was pretty decent in the beginning - dude had it fleshed out as fuck - but turned into a slow, miserable pile of samefagging waifu-war shit. And that's just the problems on the player side.

>>33229531
It was always a SOL quest.

>>33229531
>>33229553
Fuuuuuu. Do not want. I don't mind Waifuing, but I want to get shit done. I voted for magic leassons because nothing important happens during the day. Or clock tower kicks in the door and blow up the whole town.

>>33229560
It wasn't so bad before a few shitstorms.

>>33229553
It was fleshed out but only a sliver of the setting was ever shown.

>>33229601
The QM just writes things slow as fuck, don't worry about it translating to this quest.

I voted for magic cause, leveling up.

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>>33229601
>Or clock tower kicks in the door and blow up the whole town.
>Clock Tower
>worth a shit against a Kaleid stick user with a Class Card

>>33229753
Yeah, we should totally expect for the DDAs to come instead, now those guys are bad news.

>>33229753
Bazzett Fraga McRemitz.

>>33229777
>DDA
You mean the Dead Apostle Ancestors?

>>33229673
I don't mind the write speed, though it would be awesome if they were faster. I don't want the quest to disolve into waifu wars.

>>33229789
Yup, nothing makes a Nasu Quest more fun than having the Super Vamps come to town and throw a party, and hay if the Vamps come then PhantasMoon will come.

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>>33229778
>Luck
>E

>>33229753
Don't the have a fe members (Zelretch, Barthomeloi Lorelei, and Gazamy the Wraith) that casually stomp everything?

>>33229778
Bazzett was from a family that no longer needed to use crests, instead they could pass it down to all of their heirs.
Therefore unlike 99% of Magus families they could research much faster than normal magi.
Therefore, they are potentially one of the most powerful individual families.

>>33229853
Zelretch isn't aligned to the clock tower.

Gazamy is considered a magical disaster, but could only effect Caster (F/SN) up to a certain extent.

Lorelei is absurd, but her magic is exceedingly basic.

>>33229868
>no longer needed to use crests
The Fraga's ability to create Fragarach has nothing to do with crests at all. It's their family's sorcery trait.

>>33229942
SHirou must troll them into oblivion then.

>>33229942
>Her family possesses a Sorcery Trait known as Traditional Carriers – God’s Holders, which allows them to pass on their abilities through bloodline rather than teachings.
Not just Fragarach, every single spell, every single piece of research.
Imagine the power of that when one's power is measured by their magical research, and their family's lifeline.

>>33229928
What is Gazamy? I tried looking it up, and found jack shit. Just that it's a disaster.

>>33229942
Fragarach only works in certain situations, most notably brought about by her servant, Avenger.
However, Bazzett on her own, is not capable of doing such.

>>33230012
Gazamy's powers have something to do with his magical attribute, which is troublesome to magi, more than anything else recorded.
Otherwise, Gazamy is mentioned a little in Fate/Complete Material III, but that is it.

>>33230003
This is what I'm looking at right now.
>Fraga clan: Gods Holder (aka Tradition Carrier) – A special quality found in the old blood of this family, remains of a mystery of the Age of Gods in the form of a virus. Not an hereditary trait carried in the genes, but rather a pathogen that has been transmitted throughout the generations. Allows the recreation and use of the Noble Phantasm Fragarach.
>http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Magecraft#Sorcery_Trait

>>33230017
While I'm aware that Fragarach requires the enemy to use their strongest attack/ability I don't see what that has to do with my post.

>>33230012
There's very little information available. All we really know is that it's particularly dangerous to magi - possibly to the point it'd be a threat to a Caster class servant.

>>33230066
And this is what I'm looking at right now.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Bazett_Fraga_McRemitz
>Bazett is a specialist in physical combat and employs runic sorcery on her limbs, hands, and feet to increase her fighting potential. She is also a skilled mage overall. Her family possesses a Sorcery Trait known as Traditional Carriers – God’s Holders, which allows them to pass on their abilities through bloodline rather than teachings. She is the current holder of Fragarach.

>>33230066
>>33230111
typemoon wikia is one of the biggest wankfests out there. Might as well use tvtropes as your next source

>>33230144
Because the site uses no references at all or anything. Oh, wait.

>>33230144
Isn't sorcery like god tier magic that only 7 people can actually use?

>>33230144
Best source to use would be Fate/complete material V "Hollow", since that describes their abilities directly from the author.

>>33230190
Things can get lost from the transitions, translation of the Japanese first, then the interpretation of those translated words, and finally the interpretations of others.
A lot can be lost in this game of chinese whispers.

>Sella, magic

I nod to myself and start on my way home. Better learn what I can before I screw up with my new 'magecraft'.

The walk home is fairly quick, and uneventful.

Walking into the living room, I see Liz lounging on the couch, watching some anime on the TV, and Sella in the kitchen, probably preparing some things in advance, for dinner...

"Hey, uh..." I start, approaching the kitchen and glancing around. "If you have a bit, would you mind giving me a rundown on how to use this thing?"

I wave the hand that was indicated to have that spell on it, and she nods.

"Give me a few minutes, and certainly." She says. "But since lady Ilyasviel is likely to return soon... It would be best to have this lesson be in one of our rooms."

I nod.

"Makes sense. Mine is clear enough, if we need floor space." I say, turning to the stairs. "Let me know when you're ready."

Heading up, I head into my room and flop down on the bed. Nothing to do until she gets up here, since I need her to teach me more about this...

....

When Sella finally does get up here, I sit up, and pay attention as she takes my desk's chair.


"Alright. The first thing you need to do is activate that spell." She says, nodding at my hand. "Do... Whatever you did last night, when you used that card."

I hold up my hand, looking at it, and-

Trigger the same feeling as last night.

My hand burns, as a series of crimson lines form across the back of it, in an elaborate pattern.

The very air in the room feels less... 'alive', and 'full'.

She nods, apparently approving.

"Very good. Now I'm going to put you through your paces with these exercises..."

(1/2)

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>>33230792
(2/2)

After about an hour or so of practice, I'm feeling sweaty, tired, and like my arm is filled with blades. Sella seems satisfied with my progress, too, and agrees to end it for today. .

"That was extremely good for someone with no experience." She says as we walk down the stairs.

...I hear a thud from the living room, and look around the corner of the stairs.

...Ilya's in the living room, with Liz, and seems to have dropped one of her schoolbooks on the floor.

Her expression seems half dead, half-outraged.

"Well, I think it's about time to get started on dinner." Sella says, shaking her head and walking into the kitchen. "I suppose you could assist, if you'll stay out of the way..."

>Go on and help
>See about making dessert or something instead.
>Write in

>>33230813
>Go hug Illya, ask her what she thinks of superheroes.
Then go cook something with Sella.
Because, Shirou cooking is needed to save the Illya.

>>33230813
>Go on and help

>>33230813
>>Go on and help
IIRC, Sella cooks on near-god tier.
We must learn her secrets and add them to our own.

>>33230813
>Go on and help

>DC 10 Cooking, please, then. Best of the first three d20 rolls.

Rolled 5

>>33230997

Rolled 13

>>33230997

Rolled 19

>>33230997

From what I gathered everyone thinks Ilya
is best grill why?

>>33231101
Nope, Sella

>>33231101
Oh, please. Best grill is Sella. Damn, that woman can cook.
Best girl, on the other hand, is obviously [REDACTED]

>>33230813
>>See about making dessert or something instead.

>>33231020
I guess we're the best at cooking.

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>>33231717
Soon...

OP is kill.

Sorry for the delay. Somehow wound up reading about entirely the wrong cuisine.


Would you believe me if I said that I was trying to write food porn?

>>33232852
Yes.
In a weird weird way.

>>33232852
...I actually would, yes. I've been having one of those days.

>>33232852
Yes, you're doing a Nasuverse quest, it is necessary

>>33231101
She is pretty popular, but in this quest she is obviously underage. Also, might be popular, might be samefag.

>>33232852
So long as you don't start talking about molluscs.

>Go and help.

>19

I nod.

"That should help me relax."I say, nodding and joining Sella in the kitchen. "Thanks for letting me help out."

The two of us set to work. Evidently, what she had been preparing earlier was a soup, that needed time to simmer, and I was assigned basic tasks for preparing the side dishes and seasoning of the main course.

After a time of simmering and mixing together the sauce, I move on to cutting the side vegetables, as Sella pulls the main roast from the oven and lets it set, mixing a quick batch of bread and readying it for the now empty oven.

As she worries over the main course, I finish preparing the vegetables, using a more Japanese style of seasoning than the rest of the courses, and carefully ensure their cooking is complete.

We finally finish everything, and set about pouring the carefully prepared sauces on each part of the meal, and garnishing appropriately.

When everything is finally done, we place the meal on the table, and call over Liz and Ilya.

Both sit down with sparkles in their eyes, practically drooling over the food. Though Ilya seems to have a somewhat hurt expression....

Flavors blend perfectly, drawing out the best parts of each dish and mixing together.

>Day 2- Night

...After dinner is over, Liz moves to clean up the kitchen with Sella, and I'm a glare that reminds me of the last time I tried to assist in that...

Ilya heads up to her room, leaving you alone in the living room, still somewhat tired from the magic practice earlier.

Hm...

>Go take a look around town- maybe there's trouble?
>Go to bed
>Write in

There. Took longer than I actually wanted, even after escaping the food research, probably due to me getting hungry while writing it.

And also came out less good than desired, too.

>>33234278
>Go to Illya's bed

>>33234278
>>Go take a look around town- maybe there's trouble?
I was so close to asking if you'd fallen asleep again. As in, I had it typed up when the autorefresh hit.

>>33234307
Hell yeah, this.

>>33234278
>Go talk to Ilya and ask her about what was wrong earlier

Look at this face.
>Though Ilya seems to have a somewhat hurt expression....

>>33234377
>>33234376
>>33234307
This.
Illya is important.
10/10 important.

>>33234377
>>33234433

Do this!

Illya time

>>33234278
>Go to bed

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>>33234278
As suspicious as I am of it we really should check on Ilya.

>After about an hour or so of practice, I'm feeling sweaty, tired, and like my arm is filled with blades.
>like my arm is filled with blades
While I'm hoping this means progress towards something at least similar to UBW that really is something we should ask about.

OP is kil

>>33235878
No he isn't. He just has the luck of the Lancer!

>>33236046
So he's double kill.

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>>33236046
So he's probably impaled on a spear. That's not very promising.

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>>33235878
I stepped out to get food, then realized I had some business to take care of. I'm not dead yet.


I'm writing, write now.

>>33236182
Are you A-C Guy?

>>33236860
No. I'm the Gold guy.

Nothing of mine has caught on fire yet, after all.

>>33236905
Good. I don't want to see another Nasu quest suffer from The Curse. Stay Again has to fight tooth and nail to last even an evening, thanks to THIS ROUTER and spontaneous combustion.

>Go talk to Ilya

I shake my head, walking upstairs. Better see what has Ilya so upset.


Knocking on her door, I hear a muffled "Go away" from inside.

I sigh.

"Ilya. It's me." I say, leaning against the door. "Is something wrong?"

There's another muffled sentence, and I think it's enough.


Cracking open the door, I step in. The shelves are covered in pink toys, and dvd cases. I can see a few games laying around, too.

Ilya's on her bed, face buried in her pillows.

"Really, what is it, Ilya?" I ask, looking at her.

She rolls over, hugging a pillow tightly.

"Don wanna talk 'bout it." She says.

I give her a look, and she sighs.

"Big bro, what were you doing with Sella this afternoon?" She seems to pout. "'cause Liz said..."

...I can't tell her what I was really doing... But...

"She was helping me get some practice being a hero." I say, nodding.

The top half of her face remains impassive, and I can tell she doesn't buy it.

"Alright, alright. Mom suggested I get a new hobby, so Sella and I were playing card games." I wave my hands. "Really."

Ilya looks at me for a few seconds, then sighs.

"Okay, big bro." She says, shaking her head. "Would you turn off the light when you leave?"

"Sure thing. Good night, Ilya." I nod, giving her a smile.

Stepping out of the room, I flick the light switch down, and close the door with a click.


....Seems like it's late enough I should go get some rest...

I head to my room and get ready for bed, falling asleep fairly quickly.

...

>Interlude

>Day 2- Night-???

The sidewalk is quiet, and fairly deserted as I walk along it. Man... People sure are staying inside these days, aren't they?

Well.. It's all due to that dog-breath being an idiot. If he hadn't kept acting so recklessly, we'd be having an easier time, wouldn't we?

'course, if that bitch would just learn to use her power for us, we wouldn't even have any issues like that. And dog-breath's last goof got us both some time to do some hunting, too.

I shake my head, shifting my jacket as I start to cut through park.

...There's a rustle in the bushes nearby, and I can hear some soft moans from behind a tree.

So, a couple, doing something, huh? They'll do.

I reach inside of myself, latching onto that power, and throw my arm out.

The black chain I so often use extends, lashing through the bushes and wrapping around at least two things. I can hear two screams of fear, and grin.

"Y'two should know better than to be out this late at night," I laugh, pulling the chain back as their noise changes to that of pain. "Guess I'll teach you something you won't ever forget."

Their screaming continues into the empty park as I 'work my magic', and I drag their bodies out of the way of the rest of the world.

>Interlude, end
>Thread, end.

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Thanks for running. Hopefully the next one won't be spread over ~30 hours.

Anyway: how possible is it to get around to tracing and using the Blade Works in any capacity or does this Shirou lack the factors that made that possible?

So, sorry about leaving it here. The thread's archived, and I'm gonna plan to run again next Sunday, morning-on.

I'm willing to answer questions you've got, so long as they don't break the plot.

>>33238121
Can we get a vampire as our rival? And can we go the Illya route?

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>>33238108

This Shirou is... Well, not as heavily screwed up as canon Shirou. There was a fire, and there was memory loss, but there wasn't enough damage to require anything more than magecraft-type healing.

So he's not a Sword, but certainly does have an affinity with them.

UBW is strictly off-limits to him, without access to a Class Card with the suitable template.


Plus side? He's got a better magecraft teacher, and a (weak/small) crest.

>>33238219
No to vampire, and...Probably no on Ilya route. Because Shirou wouldn't consider it,since he sees her as a little sister.

>>33238345
Then what about Sakura, and we have Sakura as our sidekick and fall in love with her? At least give me that hope!

>>33238497
Potentially. No further comment.

>>33238345
A better magecraft teacher and a weak crest is a horrible trade off for shirou UBW.

Shirou circuits are still shit tier, just not as bad as F/SN shirou and shirou got a few extra circuits.

>>33238345
>>33238497
Fuck no. No Waifu. Go Ball Deep Kamen Rider Justice.

>>33238642
Well, Shirou has Class Cards, that helps, right? He could install Archer and use his UBWs or something.

>>33238497
We can still do Ilya route without loving her romantically, man. She's worth it!

>>33238686
Then just be her brother. Goddamn.
>>33238668
Yeah but why does shirou still want to be a hero. He seem to be as crazy as his F/SN counterpart.

>>33238345
>Probably no on Ilya route. Because Shirou wouldn't consider it,since he sees her as a little sister.
Girl's got determination. The main obstacle for her is less "but she's my (non-blood-related) sister" and more Shirou being shounen protagonist-tier dense in the arena of romance (and, uh, most others, too).

>>33238737
>Then just be her brother. Goddamn.
That's what I meant. There's being her brother part-time and being her brother FULL-TIME.

>>33238737
Kerry told him all about being a hero, that one day he was drunk... that was enough for Shirou. Or maybe it has to do with why Shirou was adopted by Kerry in this timeline.

>>33238686
You have opened my eyes anon, we have to protect her smile!

>>33238686
Eh. No Route other than Hero. There people that need to be Saved.

>>33238345
Does that mean no Tracing? That normally relies on UBW, but could we learn how to do it by some other means: i.e. structural analysis variants, extensive research?

>>33239103
Shirou was taught the proper way to do proejction or the normal way. If he doesn't know right now, he be taught like that.

Shirou will take Gradation Air/Projection over his canonical style of tracing with the 7 steps.

>>33239147
There's absolutely no reason for that to be the case. Projection/Gradation Air is absolutely worthless. Even if Shirou is taught the normal way, he'll have to develop something superior (i.e. Tracing) in order to make good use of it.

Can we even use normal magecraft in this universe? The crest is different, of course, but are we still limited to Sword-based magic?

>>33239195
No. Shirou don't got UBW at all.

Projection/Gradation Air is shit tier to Tracing. We only got cards and...that it. We only started to learn Magic. It horribly late on a magus development if he starts right now.

There consenquences on not using your circuits until your a fully grown adult. Circuits deteriotate if you don't use them.

>>33239233
But the Caster card means we an use his Tracing/Projection methods and his UBW so I don't feel that it's so bad right now.

Sure Shirou won't be a good mage by himself, but he makes it up by having the powers of others heroes and their cards.

>>33239233
Yes, I'm quite aware of this. The thing is, if his Origin and Element are both sword, then it doesn't matter if he has UBW or not, he doesn't have the potential to learn real magecraft.

>>33239478
He's not a good mage at the moment, no, but it's ridiculous to just accept that. The cards are a plot device, and will likely be lost to us at some point (not to mention likely vanishing once whatever is happening ends). Shirou has to consider his future, and he'll need abilities of his own to be a hero when the cards aren't around.

Dependencies are made to be abused. We need to get rid of such as fast as possible.

>>33239549
Well, the general idea should be to use the cards to have Shirou learn from them, something like if the practicing Projection (Trace.ver) from it, he can learn to do it eventually.

Plus I am sure that Shirou's teacher might have a way to help him with his circuit problems. Maybe they can use alchemy to restore them?

>>33239549
>if his Origin and Element are both sword, then it doesn't matter if he has UBW or not, he doesn't have the potential to learn real magecraft
No. It just means he'd have to work his ass off to be passable at it.

I really want to find out what his Origin & Element are in this though considering how much that tends to influence things.

>>33239913
His element is probably something close to Sword, like Metal, but his Origin... well that one is not that important unless it get's activated or something, but maybe something like Hope or Reload-Discard and Draw, might suit him.

>>33239955
Does shirou remember his past before the fire? If so, he may have been saved by Avalon. His origin may still be Sword.

>>33240007
Well it depends on what his backstory is this time, but hey, maybe this Shirou could learn magic other than making swords and not suck in the other general areas. I bet healing magic might be useful in the future.

>>33240031
Yeah but Shirou learning magic normally isn't that good. He be as good as any other weak magus.

Shirou UBW allow him to punch way up his weight class, giving him weapons for each situation.

Shirou as a normal magus is pathetic. Shirou Father was a normal magus and was pathetic. He only had an incomplete crest and his bones.

Unless you want Shirou to become like his father, we can always be the next Magus killer.

>>33238786
Question. How the fuck does Shirou got a crest if he was adopted?

>>33240084
Well remember that Shirou with UBW is an extreme rare case, and is a specialist that can only do one thing, but in this case this Shirou might no be like that, he might be a mage that has other talents.

Hell consider the alchemy that Iri knows, maybe this Shirou could learn to use it and might be able to manipulate metal to battle. Maybe he can make a metal spider tank that he can use to hunt people or something with alchemy.

>>33240106
Well he doesn't, this Shirou only has that weird fake crest in his right hand, and I think it might really be something like a command seal that Iri made up before hand to use the Cards, who knows.

>>33238586
So far, I'm not thrilled. This seems to be pretty basic Fate, but with the Clow Cards" of Prisma Illya. There's nothing particularly dramatic or involving right now for me as a reader. The villains seem suitably nasty, but without any further personalities or development, they seem blandly malicious evildoers for our blandly nice protagonist to eventually vanquish.

People reading this quest already know The Nasuverse, including F/SN, F/Z and Prisma Illya. All of the characters are copied exactly from these sources. A little unexpected twist (e.g. Rin has Gilgamesh as a servant, Shinji & Kotomine are allies, etc) would liven this up a lot.

Yeah. Heroic Liner....I got a great idea to spice up the quest.

Make Shirou an Liner from Notes.

>>33240155
>>33240106
Creating a magic crest isn't that tough. The reason they're so limited in distribution is because only 1 can contain the family's entire history. Something with three or four spells on it isn't hard to create, I'd assume. It just costs a few circuits.

The transplant, however, isn't as easy. The chance of rejection in non-relatives is high, although not absolute. Furthermore, he's quite old for it.

It seems like more than a command seal though, seeing as it has spells in it. I'd guess that it is a magic crest made my some unusual means. Perhaps Homunculi are universal donors? Or maybe Alchemy or Wishcraft makes this more flexible.

>>33240312
It does seem a little thin for the moment, doesn't it? I'm sure it will get more interesting as it goes, but Shirou needs something more compelling to kick him into gear. Rin might help, as would the Holy Grail War (or whatever is going on) as it develops.

We'll see, I guess, but I'm sure Goldenmoon will figure something out.

>>33240410
Well, my own theory is that this crest was made using information that Iri got from the cards or something. Maybe the design and info for the crest really came from those guys who made the cards in Prisma Illya and Iri just used the info with some circuits to give Shirou a fake crest so he can install the cards.

>>33240470
Maybe, but that doesn't explain the Wishcraft on it. That's a Einzbern specialty, and its presence indicates that some of her own magecraft was worked into the crest.

You could be right, but it seems a bit more complex than just card-magic.

Also, why is EMIYA's card Caster? Even in Prisma Illya he was Archer. Maybe it's a different version of Shirou?

>>33240562
Well so far we have to wait on what the crest is, but maybe Iri modified the card-magic as you said, or maybe the wishcraft trait is something that was inclused because she used the circuits from an Einzbern homunculus?

Well why the EMIYA Card is caster? Maybe it's because Iri just found the Caster card, so when Shirou searched for a compatible hero to introduce into the card, EMIYA got shoved into that container, as I think he could easily fit into the Caster mold too. That being said, I wouldn't discard him being a different Shirou too.

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>>33240410
I don't want to seem too hard on OP - he's done a number of quests around here, and that means there's some practice at this. It's just, for now, it feels like we're just beating around the bush. Not to say this can't be good, just, as of now, I'm just not feeling it.

MFW this is all part of OP's plan, and this false sense of security gets turned on us cruelly

>>33240654
I suppose that makes sense, after all, no one can be more compatible than yourself, right? It just seemed odd, as Shirou was always a Magic User, not a proper Magus. He didn't have the mindset for it. I guess he probably still qualifies as a Caster though.

I wonder if every card we find is going to be a different Shirou? EMIYA isn't the only version that reached the throne, so it's theoretically possible. Probably not likely, however. Would be pretty crazy.

>>33240793
I don't know sure having an army of Shirous might sound fun, but I would prefer if Shirou had different heroes in his card, something like having Sigfried as his Saber or Zero Rider as a card.

If he uses Zero Rider I hope that instead of summoning an army of hero, Shirou summons an army of sword people... aka walking and talking swords, just because! Just ignore this...

>>33240843
Stay Night Rider might be pretty cool. All those sword-nails being hurled around and all.

I'm really hoping that we get Stay Night (Fake) Assassin though. Tsubame Gaeshi is just too awesome.

Probably not possible, seeing as he is fictional, but I can still hope.

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>>33240920
Actually, I want a Gawain card, just so we can trash talk people and be mean to them.

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Going through this stuff in order, since I was prepping for work in the morning.

>>33238737
Basically, >>33238786. There WAS a catastrophe, and he saw how happy Kiri was when he was rescued. Then there was a rant, and...

>>33239103
>>33239147
>>33239195

You certainly have tracing. Technically.

The card you currently possess is templated off an alternative Shirou, and as we all know, there's some 'bleed' involved in that sort of thing, so developing similar abilities without use of it is a possibility....

>>33239233

Entirely true. And yet, there's a good-sized amount of Wishcraft being thrown around, along with plain old cheating.

>>33239913
>>33239955
>>33240007
>>33240031

Normal magic is possible. Origin and Element are not both Sword. Metal is an accurate guess on the latter, but the former is a secret.

>>33240106
>>33240155
>>33240410
Alchemy+Wishcraft, along with Iri subtly preparing him over the years.

Still, this one is closer to a Command Seal, and is there as a stopgap so Shirou can learn the spells. It'll deteriorate in time, due to all the factors involved.

Wishcraft is to try and hold things together, using the same general 'Do this one thing' of a Command Seal.

>>33240562>>33240654
>>33240793

Not EMIYA. Emiya. Subtle difference.
So, yes, it's a different version of Shirou.


>>33240312
>>33240410 (part 2)
>>33240691
>Pic related

>>33241046
There's only so many cards lost in the world. And with Caster, Archer, Saber, and Berserker all taken at the moment, and Plans for Assassin...

>Pic related

>>33241238
So the cards we have are difererent from the Prisma Cards? Or are they empty cards that you need to fill with heroes? Hell is this world the Prisma World?

>>33241279
In a word? Yes. They're different from the Prisma cards.

The world... Is very similar to the Prisma world. No Grail War got off the ground 10 years ago,which is why Iri and Kerry are still around, and Ilya/Sella/Liz are in Fuyuki.

>>33241238
>Origin and Element are not both Sword. Metal is an accurate guess on the latter, but the former is a secret.

Wait. So unlike Kaleid, the 4th HGW didn't happen?

>>332449
Prisma's was shut down, IIRC.

That's why Iri and Kerry are alive.

>>33247323
So Shriou wasnt saved from the fire with Avalon, then?

>>33247478
OP said as much upthread.