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If there ever was a time to break out all the stops, now would be the time. Erika, start relaying the plans of what I’m thinking to Arum.

(“Brooklyn! You’re actually going to fight that thing!?”) Erika asks in confusion.

No, I’m going to do my best to slow him down! Just work on getting as many people as we can out of here!

You begin to use darkness tentacles to pull Mary up towards Alex in the vent, all while concentrating on Dis himself personally. More Envy demons try their best to attack, but Erika is doing her best to fend them off for the time being.

“...There!” Dis seems to say, pointing an open palm towards Erika the very instant he sees a spark from one of her parries.

Immediately you throw in your best in order to countermagic his light with your darkness, forcing a rather large explosion right in front of Dis’s face, blowing him back at least several meters and into the rear wall.

“Lord Dis!” One of the knights calls out.

“Yea yea I’m fine, just shaken. That’s what I get for not throwing everything into my attack.” Dis says as he gets up from the wall, the arm where he tried to use the light spell smoking.

As he gets up, your eyes dart over the rest of the battlefield quickly. Litaria is no where to be seen and the Miyian Embassador is quickly being overwhelmed by the Envy demon, her large ranged weapons only seeming to get in the way as she attempts to backpedal and fire on the invisible scouts. Arum is busy peeling the blade out of Ishtar, whom promptly grabs her once she’s about to collapse to the floor.

“It just means I need to something harder to counterspell.” Dis says as he holds open both of his hands. Spheres of brightly glowing darkness begin to form in his hands, aimed at your general area.

Oh piss he also knows Annihilator sphere magic.

>>33163718

Oh yes, this is a prompt to act on your turn. Forgot to mention as I've heard some people say they're confused of when they should act.

>>33163718
Simply toss a bit of light or dark into the center. It will expload outward, mixing with the outer shell causing yet more explosions

>>33163718
Yeah, try to disrupt it by chucking some light or dark in there.
Make it blow up in his face

>>33163844
Counterspell as quickly as we can with light and dark. He's going full force this time, so we can't expect huge results here. Hopefully the shatter will hinder him enough that we can get out of here. I'm also guessing that Fredrika is gone as well?

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As the orbs are charging up, you quickly throw in some dark matter inside of the orbs in Dis’s hands. As expected, they explode within his hands, but this time he seemed prepared. Even through the smoke you can see him now generating more and more orbs all around him before launching them all at your location, a small grin across Dis’s bloodied lip as he points his finger towards your general area.

You throw up your space shield in order to deflect some of the blasts, but the entire area is filled explosions. One of the blasts hits you directly, sending you flying back onto another one of the rafters. You can feel Erika’s psychic powers stopping you from falling over the ledge, and rather roughly put yourself back up onto the ledge.

“Son of a bitch baited me.” you mutter as you stand up. Your dress is now tattered in front due to the blast, but thankfully a mix of your light and dark resistances and your space magic reality warping made what was a steel splitting blast into what felt like a punch to the gut.

As you look through the area, you can see Arum passing up a wounded Ishtar into the grate above to Alex. Erika hurries on over to you carefully, much of the rafters now collasping down into the room.

“Brooklyn! We need to go!” Erika warns you, using her psychic force to push away an unseen opponent.

“Not without the leaders!” You reply back.

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“If we stay here any longer we’re going to end up joining them!” Erika shouts back to you.

Looking down below, you can see that the only remaining ‘leader’ left is the Miyian Ambassador, Yuri, who is quickly being swarmed by both Pride Demon Knights and Envy demons.

With her free hand, Yuri can be seen reaching into her coat. “I’LL TAKE YOU ALL TO THE UNDERWORLD WITH ME!” Looking down, you can see what appears to be a pin on the side of her finger.

A device then digitizes directly in the center of the room, a bright pink large lump of metal easily the size of a man and with a cartoonish face of Yuri herself on it. You’re not sure what it is, but the large number counting down from 10 isn’t a good sign.

>>33164485
Well, time to get out.

>>33164485
Shadow teleport her with us up the grate if we can. Otherwise, we need to beat feet.

>>33164520
>Able to jump between shadows that are within visual range
Can we actually bring someone with us through that? I actually don't know.

>>33164558
My interpretation is that we can. We've advanced several levels since we learned it, so dragging someone along with us could be possible. It's as simple as reaching into the shadows, grabbing her, then pulling both of us to another set of shadows.

[1/2]

You quickly attempt to reach down for Yuri before you leave, wrapping a cloak of darkness around your hand to try and drag her through, but you can only feel the darkness that you were melding into shatter like glass in front of you. Looking down, you can only see a twisted smile on Dis before he flips you the middle finger.

“Son of a bitch!” you roar as you immediately make a bolt to the vent shaft, climbing up inside of it with Erika coming in up after you.

You begin crawling as fast as you can, which is a bit slow with a heavily wounded Aide in front of you. Erika seems to kick an invisible opponent out of the shaft just as Arum begins to ice up the shaft about a second later.

Seconds later, a massive explosion seems to rock the entire shaft. You feel hot for a fraction of a second before it becomes ice cold. You quickly continue to move until you and your group reach what appears to be the end of the shaft, collapsing into the sewers.

“What the hell was that!?” you demand, hopping down from the sewer.

“An ambush, we were caught with our trousers down.” Erika replies putting her blade back into the scabbard on her back.

“Brooklyn, did you tell anyone else about the meeting location?” Arum asks as she comes out of the vent, landing on a block of ice in the sewer water.

“No! The only other person who knew was Wilhelmina, who told me in the first place!” you exclaim. “...And Alex why the HELL are you here!?”

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“Because Wilhelmina was the one who tipped them off.” Alex says scooping up Ishtar in his arms.

“What!?” you exclaim.

“She broke down when I went to visit her with a food basket, crying about how sorry she was and how she couldn’t bare to face you. She told me the location of the meeting and I came here as quickly as I could.” Alex says looking at Ishtar. “...It’s bad, but I think she’ll live.”

“W-Why would Wilhelmina do such a thing!?” Erika exclaims.

“How could we’ve seen this co-” You stop as you remember that one night in the bar. The Succubus Fortune teller, about a close friend of yours being the cause of a deep betrayal.

“OH SON OF A BITCH!” you roar, slamming your fist into a nearby wall.

“...Brooklyn please, fortune tellings are often like that. I-I mean who knew it could’ve meant something like this!” Erika exclaims.

"...If I just put a bit more energy into that shadow step spell..." you mutter.

"Brooklyn, don't do that. We all did our best and we were blindsided. If anything I'm happy that the Miyian was captured, it means I don't have to put up with their bullshit when I go about executing the village plan." Arum states as she picks up Mary.

>>33164825
"Yeah, but you don't have to deal with the university head, who may or may not be building a superweapon. If she is, and the pride demons find out..."

>>33164825

>"She broke down when I went to visit her with a food basket"
>Food basket.

This seems a bit strange to me.

"Beck will definitely hold this against me."
"Please, let me deal with Wilhelmina." we need to know why she did it, we need to understand.

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>>33164921

"If the Miyian was captured and broken they would know about the location of the village and our plans. Even without that i don't wish for relations to sour with the myrians even more than they already are.

I will have to weigh the risks but i may have to at least attempt an impromptu rescue."

>>33165030

Just because Succubi don't need physical food doesn't mean they can't enjoy it.

Alex just thought she'd be cheered up with a gift basket of sorts.

>>33164825
"He stopped my spell at the last second, because he could. Because it would kill someone...lets go find out why Wilhelmina decided someone else needed to know where the meeting would be held. Arum, has the team left yet to get the Draugr's body and weapon?

>>33164825
Can we confirm who has managed to escape?

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>>33164825
We should proceed with caution. for all we know we are now on a watch or hit list

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"If the Miyian was captured and broken they would know about the location of the village and our plans. Even without that I don't wish for relations to sour with the Myrians even more than they already are. “ you reply. “I’ll deal with Wilhelmina, I want to find out why she decided letting others know of the meeting place was a good idea.”

“I’ll take Mary back to the Library.” Arum replies.

“I’ll take madam Ishtar back over to the church in order for her to have some proper care.” Alex replies.

“Erika, head back to our home and see if any authorities are combing over the place.” you tell Erika as you Soligram yourself up some fresh clothes.

“Will you be fine by yourself Brooklyn?” Erika asks.

“I’ll be fine.” you say changing yourself to appear as Sara. “Just go and see if our home is still safe to actually be in!”

******

You walk on over to Wilhelmina’s house in a hurry, shuffling through the busy streets in order to reach her apartment complex proper. After you reach her location, you bang on the door so loud that nearly the entire hallway can hear.

“Wilhelmina! We need to talk!” you yell out at the door.

Silence. Only deafening silence.

Not willing to put up with Wilhelmina’s silent treatment any more, you use your space magic to scry what’s on the other end of the door. Looking into Wilhelmina’s room, you can’t see her anywhere.

You summon up your darkness tentacles to rip the doorknob off then toss the door aside, frame and all. Heading into Wilhelmina’s room, you can see what appears to be a gift basket of berries on the table next to a letter. A quick glance at Wilhelmina’s family shrine shows that her cherish sword, literally something you’ve never seen her without, is shattered into pieces upon the altar.

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Using your darkness tentacles to open the letter, you quickly open it up and begin to read it.

“Dear Brooklyn.

Words alone cannot describe the feelings of regret that I am feeling right now. You put all of your faith into me as your loyal bodyguard, and I only reward you with treachery. You need not worry because after today you’d no longer need t-”

“No no no NO NO!” You say as you throw the letter aside, not wanting to read the rest. You grab a piece of Wilhelmina’s blade and use it as a focus to locate her with your scrying magic. The view that you see shows Wilhelmina at the top of the apartment building, slowly beginning to walk towards the edge.

You quickly jump out the window of Wilhelmina’s apartment, taking out your wings and flying up to the top of the building as fast as you can. Praying you’ll be able to make it in time.

You make it to the top of the building just as Wilhelmina has her foot on the last step of the building. “Wilhelmina!” you yell out at her.

Wilhelmina looks up at you, tears in her eyes as clothing derived like the emotional wreck that she is. “Brooklyn... I... I don’t even have the tools needed to do the ritual suicide of my people... So now I’m... I’m forced to do this...” Wilhelmina sobs.

>>33165502
Wait, what happened to the Belkerian and Gemeni?

>>33165268
Watch lists are just a polite way of saying watch out of everyone on this list, we wouldn't want to miss a chance to murder them.

>>33165554
They were taken.

>>33165554

Captured in all likihood.

>>33165611
I sorta expected this but kept quite thinking it was stupid.

>>33165519
"Nope. You're going to step away from that ledge and explain things to me."
>>33165554
And the Vanilla paladin who was supposed to be in charge of security.

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>>33165611
In that case a rescue will be necessary

Alright, this next part may be a bit long

>>33165752
They will be broken.

>>33165519
"No! I'm not letting you off that easily, you are going to explain everything to me, and then we are going to fix it!"
"Wilhelmina Gottschalk, step away from the ledge."

>>33165792
we'll have to get to them before that.

>>33165792
And then we will all be fucked. Breaking takes time

>>33165802
>>33165812
We should have used our ult to mercy kill them.

>>33165821
We couldn't even see them at that point. Especially since we said at the end of the last thread tograb the belkerian

>>33165519
"So you're committing suicide after Fredrika, Lita, and Aria are captured? Without even telling me what information you leaked? And what about the guards who were captured? What happens to them? Is your honor so easily discarded, Wilhelmina?"

>>33165519
Fuck, we are NOT letting her kill herself. After we get her down we need to hug the shit out of her.

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“No, you’re going to step away from that ledge and tell me just what the hell is going on here.” you reply to Wilhelmina.

“My life is over, that’s what’s going on...” Wilhelmina mutters.

“Then how the hell did this happen!? What events led up to this conclusion!?” you yell back at Wilhelmina.

Wilhelmina doesn’t look at you, rather she continues to stare at the ground as she begins to recite her story. “It all began a few nights ago...”

******

“Hm... I wonder if I should ask Brooklyn if I can move in with her.” Wilhelmina thinks aloud as she walks back to apartment late at night, not exactly happy with her current arrangements, but then again the only thing she uses her apartment for is for sleeping and her family shrine.

Just as she turns around a corner, she can see two Pride Demon knights in light blue armour, hands in front of her face as they stop her. “Excuse me Miss, you have been selected for a random questioning.”

“Confused, Questioning.” Wilhelmina asks, her pulse not noticeably quickening.

“Yes, by order of Lord Dio, individual peasants are now subject to random questioning in order to improve the safety of everyone within the city of Old TO.” One knight replies.

“This way please ma’am.” One of the Pride Demon’s says as he turns around while another walks around the back of Wilhelmina.

Wilhelmina swallows lightly as she hears the Pride Demons ask. But everything’s OK... You’re an Okarian who can maintain her poker face and even other Succubi have trouble telling your emotions at face value. Just tell them what they want, and lie about things that are too important to discuss. Everything will be fine.

“Is this pipsqueak the only one you could find?” a rather crude voice asks within the darkness of the alleyway.

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“Forgive us General Dis, but she appeared to be the most docile of the native Okarians within this area.” a knight nearby replies.

Wilhelmina’s eyes grow wide with shock and fear. Praying that she misheard their voices. But she can only tremble at the knees as the soft clops of hooves comes out of the darkness ahead. A figure that seems to literally tower over her in pitch black armour with white trimmings. Black hair along with dark brown eyes that seem to literally burn with a force Wilhelmina can only describe as pure evil. Most of Wilhelmina’s power is now focused down below in order to stop her legs from quivering and pissing herself at the same time.

“Good evening General Dis.” Wilhelmina curtly replies.

Dis sighs as he hears Wilhelmina talk. “Okarians... Damnit I may as well talk to a dead fish. At least they have a few prongs of life left in them.”

“Apologetic, I’m sorry that you need to speak to someone such as myself.” Wilhelmina replies.

“No no no no. You see, one thing I learned about Okarian’s is that they all tend to show... certain emotions with pressed.” Dis says as he’s Wilhelmina like a piece of raw meat. “So tell me, what does a Succubus like you know about current events? I’d imagine with your job as a whore you must’ve heard some bedroom talk.”

“Ex-whore. I left that line of work for the Fighter’s Guild.” Wilhelmina corrects.

“You mean the same one under control of Fredika Zombolt?” Dis asks.

“Yes, we’re all glad to have her back.” Wilhelmina replies.

Dis looks at Wilhelmina, scratching her chin as he continues to size her up. “Then I guess this is pretty important to you.” Dis says, using a darkness tentacle to grab ahold of Wilhelmina’s katana blade and bring it to him.

“No!” Wilhelmina says reaching out for it, but is quickly grabbed by the collar and pulled back.

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[3/5]

“There we go! THAT breaking of your facade is when I know I’ve hit something important to Okarians!” Dis says as he slowly begins to unsheath the Katana, doing his best to admire it. “Sssooo... why is this little butterknife important to you.”

Wilhelmina takes a deep breath. It’s alright. Just play along for now and everything should be fine. “I-It’s my family blade, passed down for generations in my family. It’s the only momento I have left of my mothers.”

“Hm... I see...” Dis says putting the katana back into it’s sheath. “Alright then, how about a trade?”

“A trade?” Wilhelmina asks.

“Yes, you tell me the reason why Fredika has pulled herself out of her rut as of late, and I’ll give you back your family treasure.” Dis says holding the katana in front of her.

“P-Pardon?” Wilhelmina asks, barely able to comprehend what she was hearing.

“You heard me loud can clear bitch. *Everything*. If you lie, I’ll be taking sword. If I feel that you’re omitting anything, then I’ll be taking it.” Dis says. “Your call of course.”

Thoughts of horror begin to flood Wilhelmina’s mind. Fredika is naturally tied into Brooklyn’s meeting, but if she talks, then Brooklyn may be as good as dead, along with the other Queen’s. But the blade is the only thing left of Wilhelmina’s family after her village was razed. And knowing Dis, he’s not going to take kindly to lying.

Wilhelmina collapses to the ground, images of her damned future flashing in front of her eyes, her hands balling up to fists in the snow.

“I’m waiting~.” Dis muses above Wilhelmina.

“She’s... She’s going to be at a meeting with the other Succubus Leaders soon... A conference...” Wilhelmina admits after several seconds.

“A conference? Tell me about this conference.” Dis orders.

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[4/5]

“I... I don’t know what it’s about. I know the location is... is underground at roughly 457 Calgary Drive. Just... Go underground and press the pipe overhead. It leads to the meeting room. They’ll be there at midday exactly.” Wilhelmina breaks down.

“Oh... Oh wow! You.... You actually told me! Hahaha!” Dis laughs above Wilhelmina, not believing his luck. “Oh... Oh I can just imagine Fredika’s face to you now! ‘You told them of WHAT Wilhelmina!? The first conference we’ve had in literal centuries! The one that can save our race!?’ And not only that, but what would your family think of you actually turning your back on your own Lord! They’re probably looking at you in shame in the Underworld as we speak!”

Wilhelmina can’t do anything but continue staring at the ground, tears coming out from her eyes as she imagines everyone saying that to her.

“You know... I don’t think a traitor like you deserves such a fine weapon. I’ll be taking it.” Dis says as he begins to walk past Wilhelmina.

“W-wha!? B-But you said-”

“As I said, I don’t think a traitor like yourself is fit for such an important weapon.” Dis smugly says as he walks on by her.

Wilhelmina can only watching in horror as one of the most important pieces in her entire life is being taken away right in front of her, and she’s absolutely powerless to stop it.

“O-OK... Just... Just treat it really well OK? P-Polish it everyday a-and sharpen it after every use!” Wilhelmina begs as Dis begins to leave.

Dis then turns to look at Wilhelmina from behind his shoulder, a glint in his eyes. “I said I was taking it. I didn’t say anything about keeping it.”

“...Eh?” Wilhelmina asks, now frozen in fear on what to do next.

Dis takes the blade from out of the sheath and throws it down to the ground, seconds before his cloven foot stomps down on the blade, shattering it into pieces right in front of Wilhelmina’s eyes.

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Wilhelmina can only seem to look at her shattered blade in slow motion. Her heart, her pride, and friendship all broken in one, single second.

“You know what? I’m feeling charitable tonight! You can take back your sword and go free! After all, I wouldn’t want you to miss the aftermath of what’s to come!” Dis laughs as he begins to walk away.

“No... No...” Wilhelmina whimpers as she crawls over to the remainder of her blade, picking up the broken hilt in her quivering hands.

******

“...Wilhelmina...” you mutter after the story.

“I’m... I’m no good for anyone Brooklyn! I... I betrayed my family’s honour, the Guild’s honour, and the honour of my friend who’s only crime was to trust me!” Wilhelmina says collasping down to her knees and beginning to sob. “I have nothing... *nothing* left to live for anymore!”

>>33166555
Yes you do. Because we're going to fix this. He doesn't know who's backing that meeting. Therefor, I think its time that I have a chat withthe miyun leader, after all, we have a jailbreak to stage

>>33166555
...wait a second, we used spacial magic to map her room afterwards, shouldn't we have noticed the broken blade?

>>33166555
"I'm not going to let you end your life, We are going to save the taken leaders. I need all the help I can get, that means you too, I don't want to lose you."

We may have to throw in a hug.
There must be a way to repair her sword and we have to find out what happened to the missing leaders.

>>33166693

It does allow you to make a map, bu it won't say what's inside of cupboards and such.

The blade was broken, but there was still enough lift to place the hilt into the sheath

"I'm not going to let you end your life, We are going to save the taken leaders. I need all the help I can get, that means you too, I don't want to lose you." you say floating down over to Wilhelmina.

“N-No! S-Stop! I’ve been a terrible friend! Just seeing you... I don’t deserve this pity!” Wilhelmina says as she swats ineffectually at you. “I... I’m not sure I’m even worthy to save the captured leaders... I’m probably going to be banned from both the library and Fighter’s Guild for this...”

A) Offer to have Latooni repair the weapon
B) Wilhelmina’s culture seems to be close to Mina’s, maybe ask her for advice?
C) Other (insert)

>>33167130
>B) Wilhelmina’s culture seems to be close to Mina’s, maybe ask her for advice?

We can't waste too much time, we need to find out where they are holding the leaders and we also have to make sure no one tries to start a fight with Wilhelmina, we need everyone to pull this off.

>Have to sleep now.
>good luck.

>>33167130
Even if she's banned from the library and the guild, she'll still always have a place with us.

>>33167130

"Consider this a suicide mission to restore your honour. If you die, then you die knowing that you helped free the leaders. If you live, then you have atoned for your action. I do not blame you for what you did. Had it been me, I probably would have done the same if it had been my sister..."

[1/2]

“Ssshhh... Wilhelmina I’m not angry. Dis put you into a position where no matter what you did it’d always have been the wrong choice.” you say flying over to her and placing your hands on her shoulder.

“B-But there’s no place to which I can belong to anymore!” Wilhelmina exclaims.

“Even if you’re thrown out of the library or the Fighter’s Guild, you’re always more than welcome with us.” You say stroking Wilhelmina’s brow.

Wilhelmina can only look up at you with wide, teary eyes before clutching you close and sobbing on your own clothing.

“There there...” you say stroking Wilhelmina on the back of the head. “....Say I got an idea. Mina seems to be able to relate to your culture. Do you want to try talking to this about her and see what you can do?”

Wilhelmina only nods against your breast in response.

“Good. Now come on. Let’s head on over to my place and see what we can do to unravel all of this mess. We’re going to need all the help we can get.” you say smoothing her hair down.

******

After waiting for Erika’s word, it appears that the coast is still clear at your house, though you’re unsure of why that’s the case. Not even Erika knows why the Pride Demons have done a search of your place yet.

As you come back to your tower, you can see nearly everyone is downstairs in the living room, a few quiet conversations going on, but many of them hushed.

“Brooklyn! You’re alive!” Mina says rushing over to you, giving you a big hug.

You give a quick hug back to Mina before prying yourself away from her. “Yes, but not nearly under the same kind of torture that Wilhelmina is under. Mina I want you to take Wilhelmina upstairs and have a little heart to heart talk with her.”

Mina seems confused for a second when you say this.

>>33167130
If only we had insisted on seeing Wilhelmina when she was all "grieving". We could have known that Dis will be there. Oh well.

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“Trust me, it’d become clear when you start talking. You’re the best person for her to talk to at the moment. Go on.” you say giving Mina a little push into huddled Wilhelmina, the latter of which tries to appear small and nondescript as possible.

“Sebastien told us that the meeting was a bust.” Nalika says.

“That’s an understand. They were throwing spears at fish in a barrel.” you say sitting down next to your father. “I’m not even sure of the losses at this point.”

“I saw them take away their captives. The Gemelli, Ayarian, and Belkarian Leaders are captured. The Miyian Ambassador is in critical condition, but she’ll live.” Sebastien says as he lights up a cigerette. “And before you ask, no I didn’t go after them. I was prepared for a small attack force, not a small army.”

“Well where will they be going now?” you ask.

Ada only takes a deep sigh before she simply replies, “New TO.”

The entire room is silent for the scant few seconds as this is mentioned.

“No Succubus wants to go to New TO willingly.” Ada then retorts. “Pride Demon capital of Canada, place is fortified to hell and back.”

Amanda seems to be deep in thought, before something akin to a light bulb goes off in her twisted head. “If anything, I think we should thank Wilhelmina for this spark.”

“Pardon?” you ask her. You’re not sure how this is anything positive.

[3/3]

“We have a religious leader who’s in critical condition, a rebel group who just had their leader kidnapped, the head of the Fighter’s Guild fallen in combat then kidnapped, and an information specialists leader just robbed right under their noses. All four of these groups are basically fuel for a large potential inferno.” Amanda comments. “If we properly plant the spark, then all of them should be more than eager to fight in order to seek their vengeance.”

“Amanda! How can you make such a horrible suggestion!?” Leona replies in shock.

“It’s called seeing the entire picture Leona. There are no right or wrong choices, just some more beneficial than others.” Amanda snaps back to Leona.

(Gonna take a short walk while the weather is good, I'll be back soon)

>>33168246
She is right, we should take the advantage of this.

>>33168246
"Current succubi military troops are limited to small raids or terrorist groups, but we may be able to keep a lid on things while we mount a rescue.

This also will make things with Beck much more difficult.

I need to talk to Ada about this, any rescue that we can mount, along with the plan to recover the Draugr's remains."

Back now. Typing.

>>33168246
True. But if they break the Belkerain leader we're in trouble. So we have a time limit, and not nearly enough weapons. Fortunately I know a way around that

“No, she’s right about this. In history, there is always a tipping point, and this could be our own.” you reply.

“But Brooklyn, how are we even going to accomplish this!?” Erika asks.

“Succubi are known for subtly, but you’re going to need a plan to break out the Succubi Leaders.” Sebastien adds.

“Do you know when they’re being shipped?” you ask.

“No, but in all likelihood soon. I have a full personality profile on Dis, and he’s not the type to wait around. He’ll want them shipped out to New TO as soon as possible then will want to leave. Capturing any of the leaders should be enough to repay the debt he owed Dio.”

“Hm... We’ll need more information on that.” you reply.

“I can ask some of my old friends for the blueprints of New TO. They should’ve saved them even after Dio ransacked the college.” your father offers.

“Could you get an adventurer group or two to help assist?” you ask.

“Not for Succubi, but I may be able to see some of the more martially inclined ones could help. Their loyalties are often towards the Fighters Guild more than Celestia.” Your father adds.

Nalika takes a deep breath. “I dislike fighting, but if it’s for a cause like this, I don’t mind doing my own part.”

“Something like this though... This is big. I-I’ve never even attempted something on a scale like this before.” Ada says, visibly sweating as she becomes flustered.

To clarify, this is a point where you can interject and suggest things

>>33169594

"At this point, it seems likely that we will end up in open war with the Pride Demons after we rescue the other Leaders... Our best bet would be a hit and run strike on them as any prolonged engagement would be in their favour..."

"Dis is likely going to be in the middle of the Leaders, to ensure his 'captives' stay 'captive'... so we will have to be very quick... We need to get him pinned down so we can extract the others... We would also need an army to hold off Dis troops from intervening with the pinning and extraction teams... Once we have the Leaders, we will need something big to cover our escape... The only thing I can think of which could be prepared in such short notice is whatever Beck is working on. I have been informed that he has been building a rather substantial power generator, which is suspected to be used to supply a super weapon... If this is the case, then if Beck can be convinced to assist in the operation, we might have a tangible opportunity to rescue the Leaders."

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"At this point, it seems likely that we will end up in open war with the Pride Demons after we rescue the other Leaders. Our best bet would be a hit and run strike on them as any prolonged engagement would be in their favour."

“The Pride Demons are known to win quite a few of their wars by sheer attrition yes.” Erika replies.

“Their supplies lines are legendary in that aspect.” Amanda adds.

"Dis is likely going to be in the middle of the Leaders, to ensure his 'captives' stay 'captive'... so we will have to be very quick... We need to get him pinned down so we can extract the others. We would also need an army to hold off Dis troops from intervening with the pinning and extraction teams, once we have the Leaders, we will need something big to cover our escape.” You reply.

“Any idea how we can get such supplies in such short notice?” Sebastien asks.

“The Miyians. The only thing I can think of which could be prepared in such short notice is whatever Beck is working on. I have been informed that he has been building a rather substantial power generator, which is suspected to be used to supply a super weapon. If this is the case, then if Beck can be convinced to assist in the operation, we might have a tangible opportunity to rescue the Leaders." you reply.

“If you can.” Ada replies. “Alex told us everything, and while I assume Wilhelmina has some... VERY good reasons for doing what she did, bottom line is that an Okarian was the one who leaked the meeting.”

“Many Miyian’s were on good terms with the other leaders. Ishtar and Arum got out too, so they can’t pin this on being an Okarian plot of some sort.” Amanda adds.

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>>33170238
" Dis won't stay around for transport so our best bet is to try to rescue them in transit rather than trying to do so from a literal fortress city.

I hope they are not planning to just use magic to instantly transport them from one place to another if that is so it will be far harder to intersect them.

They may be planing to be making a show of their latest capture. So they may parade them around before transporting them which may also open up opportunities to break them out. However most certainly they will be under heavy guard if so.

I rather try to get them before they reach New T.O. but we may have to break them from there. Right now we need information"

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Erika looks a bit troubled as she hears your plan. “It could work, but the losses of going up against Dis would be enormous.”

“Dis held back because he was in a crowded area. If we fought somewhere open then he could really cut loose.” Sebastien comments.

“What if... What if we let Dis take the leaders to New TO?” Alex adds. “No, listen to me! The leaders they captured will most likely be trained to resist torture, and the only facilities they have capable of breaking them will be in New TO. While they’re preparing the transfer, I say we put a forward force ahead in New TO. We can use the stealth to lay the traps, then spring them in one swoop.”

“...New TO is also their nerve center. If we hit that, but Edmonton and Old TO will be basically paralyzed in terms of military power.” Troy adds.

“How long do we have is the question?” you ask.

“For any plan we do?” Erika asks. “...I have a feeling they’ll want to ship the leaders ASAP, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they begin the journey the next day. It’s a two week trip to New TO, and I estimate that the leaders can withstand... a week I guess. I don’t know them that well, so it could vary quite a bit.”

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thinking in transit is probably best bet. If that is not possible then we have to do an infiltration and break out mission from New TO.

>>33171247

"A hit and run would only work with Beck's assistance... While I hope that he might help rescue the other leaders, It would be best to prepare for an infiltration of New TO, as difficult and undesirable as it is...

>>33171247
What about the strongest of the sutoba sisters? If she were to help the breakout after dis left... Also, we should turn that adventuring group we know against the pride demons, if only as a distraction

>>33171696

The ones living with you, Ameila's group, or the local Hero's party?

Amelia's group, and the local hero party if we can use her to make them team up. If we convince them to make the pride demons off balance we'll have a much better chance. Plus, we could have her "killed" by pride demon retaliation if we want to disappear her into vacation.

>>33171247
"I may also be able to convince some Celestians to..."

>>33172065
(Cont)
"Help us. Or assist. We'll see. But first, Beck."

[1/2]

“Hm... I think I can try to ‘convince’ some of the local adventuring groups into helping us out.” you reply.

“Now you’re thinking like a true Demon!” Kyon chirps next to you.

“I am a demon.” you reply flatly.

“And how do you plan on convincing them to help Succubi?” Amanda asks.

“I have my ways.” you say with a smile to yourself.

“I’m going to talk to Arum. With all of this chaos, she’s probably going to start the Succubus Village project without the involvement of the other heads. Many Succubi are going to want to leave Old TO after this.” Ada replies as she sits up.

“I’ll head over to the university and see what I can sense there.” Amanda replies.

“I’ll head upstairs to change clothing for my little charade.” you say as you head upstairs.

“I’ll head out and see what my friends are doing then.” your father replies.

“I’m going to get a drink.” Sebastien replies as he also heads out.

******

As you’re looking through your clothing, you can hear a sudden knock on the door.

“Who is it?” you yell out.

“Brooklyn, it’s us.” Mina replies on the other end.

“Oh! Come in come in!”

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As the door opens, you can see both Mina and Wilhelmina standing next to each other. Wilhelmina tightly gripping Mina’s own hand as she gazes down on the floor.

“Come on. Just as we rehearsed.” Mina says patting her on the shoulder.

Wilhelmina seems to take a deep breath to calm herself, collecting her feelings before looking at you directly in the eyes. “Brooklyn, I am sorry for what I have done to you and to our race. I know that you’re not going to enjoy hearing this, but right now I need to go on a pilgrimage.”

“A pilgrimage? Of what sort?” you ask.

“To find myself again. I... I lost everything that night Brooklyn. I’m... not even sure where I belong in this world anymore. So I want to take a journey into the woods near Old TO and seek counsel with the spirits there.” Wilhelmina explains.

“How long will that take?” you ask.

Wilhelmina remains silent for a few moments. “...I’m not sure.”

“Brooklyn, it may be difficult for you to understand, but that sword was more than just a family memento for her. It was also part of her own soul. I know things are bad right now, and Wilhelmina feels terrible for asking this, but right now she doesn’t even understand where her place in life should be. You don’t heal from such things overnight.” Mina explains to you.

>>33172200

"If that is what you must do, then that is what you must do. Though as I said before; you will always have a place here, Remember that."

>>33172200
If she truly thinks that she has to do this, then she can. But she has to promise to return to us, we do care about her, after all.

"If that is what you must do, then that is what you must do. Though as I said before; you will always have a place here, Remember that." you tell Wilhelmina.

Wilhelmina simply nods. “I do not know what I shall do or what shall happen, but I know that I will return at the very least. Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to head home to begin my preparations.”

“Good luck on your pilgrimage Wilhelmina!” Mina says waving.

“Likewise!” you say waving to her.

Wilhelmina gives a small, sheepish wave before heading down the stairs.

“...Do you think we can get her blade repaired?” you ask Mina.

“Physically, yes. But repairing is only one step Brooklyn. Wilhelmina’s people are very animistic, and when the blade was destroyed so was the link to her family. The spirit of the blade would also be restless as well.” Mina explains.

“Hm... It’s going to be difficult to repair such a high quality sword...” you mutter.

“Physically? Oh no we can take it to a blacksmith’s and get it repaired in a few days.” Mina replies.

“...Seriously?” you ask.

“Yea, seriously. It brings shame upon Wilhelmina to have someone other than a family tend to her blade, so we’re going to need to be very careful on who to pick for the weapon smithing.” Mina replies.

“Hm... We should ask Latooni then. She specializes in weapons, so she may be able to help with something like this.” you reply. “In the meantime I need to head out.”

“Where too?” Mina asks.

“Oh I got... plans.” you reply to her.

A) Go to the Library first
B) Go to Amelia first
C) Go to the local hero and try to mislead him to be a thorn in the Pride Demon’s side
D) Other

>>33172892

I think we need to update the queens, and possibily even consider this to be the point where we should consider breaking them out. If this is truly the turning point for the races then all of the clans would need a focal point to get behind. What better than the queens for that?

>>33172892
B I think.
>>33172970
Because then the pride demons march their full army in and we're screwed

>>33172892
>B) Go to Amelia first
we need recharging.

>>33172970
I'm not sure if we have the strength to get them out yet. Beck could though. But we should tell them.

>>33173088
I'm half tempted to leave it to Wilhelmina actually.
>>33172892

>>33173055

Nonsense, the pride demons don't have their full army here. And if we come at them with unexpected overwhelming force now then we can keep them from getting word of the queens revival for who knows how long. By that point they will be up to speed, and the succubi united and ready for them. The real problem is that the queens are starving, but I had an idea to deal with that. We have a decent cash reserve, and can possibily an even more substantial amount though our economic friends. We can buy up pallets of that bottled aether so that when the queens come out they will have a reasonable supply waiting for them.

>>33173223
Forgot to Add B

>>33173256
We've been repeatedly warned about that. Also, we can't let them out quietly. Its been repeatedly described like a nuke going off. Also, united the Succubi are still fucked against the pride demons. If Valvosa can convince the pride demon's to bring their full army here we are fucked, end of story

>>33172892
B) Go to Amelia first
Lets see if we can't get the Celestians to help.
>>33173223
Then you underestimate the strength of the prison. Beck could probably make a

>>33173256
I'm against trying to free the queens at this time

>>33173363
I meant for doing the report to the queens. And we don't want them out yet, because post revolution you'd better believe Valvosa is going to be scrying for them, and if he finds them he'll be able to bring in the other pride kings, and we'll be doomed.

>>33172970
...You want to use them as a rallying point, while keeping them a secret from the pride demons?
Yeah, that's not happening

You begin to prepare to go and see Amelia first. That battle took a lot out of you and you need to recharge, and what better way than to go and see your own personal pet.

******

You head on over to Amelia’s current hotel, a monolithic skyscraper that seems to tower above the ruins of Old TO around it, the Hilton Hotel. As you walk in, you can feel the plush red carpet below your feet as you begin the trek up to Amelia’s current room on the... 45th floor. You may be in peak physical condition as a Succubus, but god damn does this ever take the wind out of you.

As you reach the 45th floor, you begin to walk down the immaculately maintained hallway and down towards 4523, Amelia’s own room. You’re sure to shapeshift into a younger form when no one is looking before knocking on the door.

“Who is it?” Amelia calls out.

“It’s me! Brooklyn! I wanna play Amelia!” you chant outside.

The door seems to fly open just a second later, opening the door to see Amelia’s bare ass and backside in front of your face.

“I-I’m sorry Brooklyn, but we just got a call to move out! With Lord Dio’s recent action against the Succubi, we’re worried that he’s not just blowing hot air this time.” Amelia says going in front of a full body mirror, letting her towel drop as she begins to comb back her hair and put her cleric’s tiara on.
(what do?)

>>33173621
"Can I get at least a kiss?"
Get as much as we can.

Oh yes, forgot options.

A) Get as much as you can before she leaves
B) Seduce her to stay longer
C) Seduce her to stay longer and try for her to convince her group
D) Other

>>33173621
"Well obviously. That was a decapitation strike. A FAILED decapitation strike. He didn't get enough of the leadership, and his actions are probably just going to unite them. In all honesty, pride demon rulership of this area hangs on a thread, and the Succubi, and we, are going to do our best to cut it."

>>33173813
>C) Seduce her to stay longer and try for her to convince her group
this is for her to convince her group to help us? I am ok if that is the case.

>>33173852
This. Tell her that if she wants to hurt the pride demons, or help the civillians who will inevitably get caught in the crossfire, she should stay

>>33173813
C with priority on getting her to convince her group.

>>33173813
C
We need them to help us. Heck if we can convince Celestia that there is done reason they'd want to attack New T.O., we'd have an army...

>>33163699
When your image says "EPIC RIGGERS" and the first word of your post is "Succubus," I get a different impression of what the post is going to be about.

"Well obviously. That was a decapitation strike. A FAILED decapitation strike. He didn't get enough of the leadership, and his actions are probably just going to unite them. In all honesty, pride demon rulership of this area hangs on a thread, and the Succubi, and we, are going to do our best to cut it." you reply.

“Cut the Pride De- Y-You actually mean liberating Old TO!?” Amelia replies.

“Why not?” you ask.

“I-It’s much too dangerous! We’re strong, but even we’d have trouble against Dis or Articus if they decided to become directly involved!” Amelia stammers.

“That’s why we’ll have support.” you say locking the door behind you. “With your group, you should easily have the clout to throw around to help with this. It isn’t one sided either. Think of all those people that you’ll be helping within this area. Not only that, but it’d be one less major foothold the Pride Demons have in this area.”

Amelia sighs, looking conflicted as she stares at the ground. “I-I don’t know about this Brooklyn...”

“Plus, it’d make me very... Well let me show you how happy I’d be with such an act.” you say kneeling in front of Amelia.

“B-Brooklyn what are you d-” Amelia gasps at the sensations, grasping hold of the mirror as she struggles to remain upright.

******

“Now... Are we clear?” You ask Amelia after a half hour.

Amelia can only nod gently as she continues to lick between your toes.

“Good girl... Now what are you going to say to your adventuring group?” you ask, having her rehearse what you wanted her to say.

(Go ahead and make up a reason for them to stay. Remember, it’d need to be bought by an Celestian Adventurer group. Also, I’m heading to bed now. I’ll start writing this again bright and early at 9:30 AM EST)

>>33174217
That the succubi are probably going to try totake the pride demons out. They'll have to, because if the pride demons manage to break that many leaders, their entire race will be screwed. While one demon killing another isn't our business, the chance to weaken the pride demons in the confusion is, as is the chance to save the mortals who will certainly get caught in the crossfire

>>33174217
well they would be ensuring a devastating blow against the most powerful group of demons around

no matter how much the succubi have to gain, they would still be far weaker than the pride demons

its completely win-win, i dont see why they would need much more convincing than that

>>33174217

maybe say something about how by Defeating Dis it would weaken the Pride Demons position here allowing for Celestia to increase it's activity with less interference, not to mention the glory and fame that could be obtained by defeating the Demon Duke...

It would be best not to focus on the Succubi angel too much, or if at all only as how they will throw forces against Dis which would distract him long enough for the Group to Dispatch him without having to worry about the greater conflict, after all, Dis army is worth less than Dis himself...

>>33174217
seconding >>33176567

try to play up the glory and 'moral' victory it would be, play to their senses of theatrics and propaganda

Just a s small bump to survive my classes

>>33178599

play up the part where they kick pride demon butt and safe all the innocent people.
Heroes are suckers for glory.

>>33176567
But they also don't have the chops to fight Dis himself. They seem to be barely more powerful than we are currently. (although we do have a substantial backlog of DP)

>>33176567
Don't forget that Dis is probably going to leave the instant he drops off his charges in new TO. Also, I think we're going to end up with a rivalry with him, which will be fun

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“I-I’ll tell them that with current power struggle between the two groups, we have a chance now to strike at the heart of the Pride Demons. Liberating Old TO and Edmonton for the good of the people.” Amelia says.

“And...” you say trailing your toe across her cheek.

“A-And that it’d give us a lot of fame and glory to be known as the people who liberated Old TO! Celestia can easily spread it’s glorious influence here!” Amelie quickly says before putting your toe in her mouth.

“And what about the Succubi?” you ask.

“Midorbi-”

“Spit out the toe, then talk.” you instruct.

“Disorganized and weak compared to the main Pride Demon forces! They were oppressed before the Pride Demon forces, so even their threat level compared to the Pride Demons are minimal!” Amelia says. “N-Now can I-I please put my clothes on? W-We need to meet up soon...”

“Ah ah ah... Your plate is still full...” you say pointing down to your nether regions.

“B-But I-”

“Are you talking back to your mistress?” you ask Amelia smugly.

“...N-No Mistress...” Amelia says before she begins to lick down your leg to below.

“Good girl...” you say sinking back into the plush bedsheets. “Mmmm... *Very* good girl...”

******

You leave Amelia’s apartment refreshed both aether wise and sexually. A bit of play after the bullshit that was the meeting really worked out well for you. But for now, you wonder what your next choice should be for the day.

A) Go to the Library and see if Mary is doing alright
B) Go to your Uncle and Sister and see how they’re doing
C) Go see how Ishtar is doing and if Latooni can repair Wilhelmina’s blade
D) Other

>>33182931
>C) Go see how Ishtar is doing and if Latooni can repair Wilhelmina’s blade

>>33182931
>C) Go see how Ishtar is doing and if Latooni can repair Wilhelmina’s blade
FYI, you're several sessions behind on DP allocation.

>>33182931
A) Go to the Library and see if Mary is doing alright
Gonna need firepower

After heading over to the church, you’re surprised to see the usually rather calm and relax church now seemingly overstocked with several blatant Succubi guards all around the church of all types. No surprise given the recent injury of Ishtar, but to see fully armored guards is something else. You’re even patted down before you’re allowed to enter the church proper.

Heading over to the front of the church, you can see a few Succubi and mortals inside of the church in silent prayer, Teresa kneeling before the front altar, dressed in her shiny plate armour along with shield and sword next to her.

“Teresa, I’m sorry to interrupt but we need to talk.” you say to her while she’s praying.

“...Yes, we’re in dire need of that, aren’t we.” Teresa says with a heavy sigh as she collect her sword and shield, leading you over to a confession booth.. “This way please Lady Brooklyn.”

You sit down in the confessors side. “Are you sure this place is secure?”

“Secure enough. I’m afraid that I don’t want to leave the front of the building just in case Dio tries to attack us. Your friend Alex told us what happened at the meeting.” Teresa says.

“That’s putting it lightly. It was a damn nightmare as soon as Dis appeared.” you reply.

“But how did he know of the location of the meeting? I wanted to come, but Lady Ishtar reassured me that the location was remote enough not to be found.” Teresa asks.

(What do?)

>>33183450
"It seemed he was able to capture and break one of the few who knew about the meeting, I managed to recover them after the attack on the meeting."

tell a half truth, but one with enough cover to protect Wilhelmina, if she asks further about wilmina just say that she is being treated for what injuries and wounds she sustained while she was a captive of Dis and is in our custody

>>33183450
"A random search picked up one of my comrades, and Dis managed to squeeze her hard enough to get the location. Fortunately, he was sloppy and arrogant, or he could have learned much more important information. Information that a certain belkerian also has unfortunately. So we need to stage a rescue, then a general revolt. On the plus side, I think I managed to convince the Celestian adventurer groups to try to cripple the pride demons as well."

>>33183450
"I'm handling it but we have more pressing matters of getting the leaders back before they are broken in New TO."

>>33183610
He didn't manage to break her though.

>>33183637
for all intents and purposes he did though, he left Wilmina broken, that kind of requires breaking first...

>>33183648
No he didn't "breaking" a succubi means something distinct, and that most certainly didn't happen to Wihelmina, considering it requires like a week of torture

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"A random search picked up one of my comrades, and Dis managed to squeeze her hard enough to get the location. Fortunately, he was sloppy and arrogant, or he could have learned much more important information. Information that a certain belkerian also has unfortunately. So we need to stage a rescue, then a general revolt.” you reply.

“A revolt?!” Teresa gasps. “I-I mean a rescue I could understand, but a full blown revolt?”

“Yes, it is short notice, but with most of the Succubi baying for blood at the moment. I fully expect extremists members of your church to take action along with Rebecca’s terrorist cells.” you reply. “I also think I managed to convince the Celestian adventurer groups to try to cripple the pride demons as well."

“We’re going to need a lot more than one.” Teresa replies. “We’re also going to need a lot of things. Supplies, intelligence, but most importantly a strong space user.”

“To block the Planar gates.” you mention.

“Exactly. We need someone capable of shutting off the gates at both Old TO and Edmonton, because if any Pride Demon’s manage to catch us in a pincer attack we might as well just hand them the surrender terms.” Teresa replies.

“How long will we have before Articus takes action?” you ask.

“Most likely he’ll be sending forces from his private castle as soon as he gets word. We’d have about three months for a formal army, about a week for individual strike teams start harassing us. But... War is not something to take lightly Brooklyn.” Teresa warns you.

(What do you say?)

>>33183916
"Supply's we can get. Several of the Miyu's armories remain hidden, and she knows the locations and entry requirements. As for intelligence, I may be able to tap into the celestian intel network. Plus, the rage demon empress is crashing on my couch. I doubt she'll help openly but there has to be some way we can turn that to our advantage. Plus, we have to revolt Teresa. We can't let them learn about my sponors, which means a rescue, and counting on the pride demons to let that kind of blow go unanswered is foolish in the extreme"

>>33183780
I'm well aware of that anon, your completely missing the point, what I wrote was a half-truth, not a literal truth...

>>33184045
sounds good, though might want to be a bit more subtle about mentioning the queens and Miyu

once we have the initial planning out of the way here we should find Latooni and get her to check Wilhelmina's sword

>>33184078
Not the anon you replied to. But breaking is something quite distinct and literal to succubi. There is no half truth to saying "they broke someone who knew about meeting", because they didn't.
It's far easier to say "they managed to get intel from someone who knew about the meeting." which is true and there are no "half-truths" about it.

Mind you, this is all moot now.

>>33184154
>But breaking is something quite distinct and literal to succubi
you just said exactly what he said, which I already fucking know

do you not know what a half truth is? a lie that has elements of the truth twisted to cover the truth

stop taking it so fucking literally jesus christ

"Supply's we can get. Several of the Miyu's armories remain hidden, and she knows the locations and entry requirements. As for intelligence, I may be able to tap into the Celestian intel network.” you were about to mention Shiva, but knowing her she’d probably prop up a lawnchair to watch the entire thing. “Plus, we have to revolt Teresa. We can't let them learn about ym sponsors, which means a rescue, and counting on the pride demons to let that kind of blow go unanswered is foolish in the extreme."

“A rescue is what I’d expect. I was doing my own planning for a rescue when Ishtar came back and told me what happened with her last breaths.” Teresa says with a heavy tone.

“You mean she’s dead!?” you whisper in shock.

“No, but the blow was rather heavy for her. Being impaled with a large object isn’t something one easily recovers from. She’ll be fine with some rest, so until she’s back on her feet I’m in charge of the church.” Teresa replies.

“What’s your plan for the rescue?” you ask.

“Attack when Dis is gone. I think we can win against him, but the cost will be too great. We’d not only have to put up with a drastically decreased fighting force, but we’d have to put up with Dis’s own family house calling a blood feud on us.” Teresa explains.

“And we don’t need to worry about the same thing happening with Articus?” you ask.

“Articus is considered a hermit. If he dies, no one will weep when he’s gone.” Teresa replies. “If we do fight Dis, we’d need to make sure we don’t kill him by accident. The problem is as soon as Dis enters anyplace where collateral isn’t an issue, he’d be able to unleash his full power, and that worries me.”

(What do you want to say?)

>>33184356
"Agreed. I can try, I did try, to shut down his magic, but even with my tricks I'm simply not powerful enough to stop him from overwhelming me with sheer force in short order."
What's the name of the most powerful of the Sutoba sisters? We should mention trying to contact her, since she's probably about as powerful and Dis is.

>>33184425
sounds good

"Agreed. I can try, I did try, to shut down his magic, but even with my tricks I'm simply not powerful enough to stop him from overwhelming me with sheer force in short order." you say.

“Even the Queen’s had trouble taking on more than one general at a time when the Pride Demons first invaded Earth. He’s strong than a good many of us, and his knights are problematic to deal with as well.” Teresa replies.

“Could Luna be a match for him? you ask. “Luna Subota?”

“Perhaps she could. She is an expert in Space and Light magic, but if Dis manages to get her into melee range then it will not be a pretty sight.” Teresa replies. “I suspect the Subota’s have some method of contacting her however.”

(Anything else?)

>>33185055
Ask if she can arrange a meeting with the Belkerian leader.

>>33185153
this if we can

then see if we can find Latooni

>>33185153

The Belkarian Leader was one of the ones who was captured.

Do you mean who's currently in charge of the Belkarians now?

>>33185200
derp, thought Ishtar was that, my brain ain't work rite at 4am

>>33185200
Yeah, also the Miyun one. That's the one we'll probably need the most help with.

well, we better get luna as soon as possible

doesn't seem like we have much time and she's supposed to be really flaky

“Do you think you can arrange a meeting with the current Belkarian Leader and Grendel Beck?” you ask.

“Hm... Those are a bit tricky to do. The Belkarians are in the midst of a power vacuum, so I do not know who will be their leader until that’s decided. Beck I’d have more luck with, as with something on this scale, she’d have to make some sort of statement.” Teresa replies.

“I only ask for your best and nothing more. Now if you excuse me, I have to go now.” you say sitting up.

“May the blessing of Pamille be with you.” Teresa says as you go to exit.

You begin to look around the area for Latooni, which isn’t that difficult as she’s currently holding out a donation dish out in front of the church.

“Leaving so soon Lady Brooklyn?” Latooni asks.

“Not quite.” you say throwing a gold piece into the dish.

“Oh thank you so much for your generous donation Lady Brooklyn!” Latooni says with a small blush.

“Latooni, I have a small favor to ask of you.” you tell her.

“What’s that Lady Brooklyn?” Latooni asks.

You reach under your dress and use your space control to pull out a piece of Wilhelmina’s damaged Katana, her leaving it at her place when she went on her journey. “This weapon has been damaged, and I was w-”

“Sorry, but I can’t do that Lady Brooklyn.” Latooni says in a regretful tone.

“What? Didn’t you use to make artifact weapons?” you ask. “You should be able to repair a mundane blade in your sleep.”

“It’s not that Lady Brooklyn, but rather I don’t enjoy working on offense weapons. I... I don’t like going to bed and night and thinking about how many people died by the hands of my own works...” Latooni says looking down at the ground, avoiding your gaze. “T-That’s why I don’t work on weapons anymore...”

>>33185717
use space control to get a bit of privacy.
"I understand. This is less of a weapon, and more of a family heirloom which needs reforging and my friend would appreciate it if you would fix and improve it for her."
From what I remember, her reluctance to enchant weapons came from when her last attempt to improve a familiar weapon wasn't appreciated.

>>33185717
"This sword belongs to a good friend of mine, it is the last thing she has left of her home town, General Dis broke it. I can't say that it will not be used to end anymore lives and I don't want to force you but will you at least give it some thought? Please?"

no need to put on any fancy doodads, it's not really creating a weapon at all.

>>33185717
"This particular blade has not been used as a weapon for a long time, it is a link to the past, the only link a friend of mine has to her history and her departed family, and this blade, right now, has a life to save, not hurt, but it cannot do it broken and its spirit shattered.

Latooni think for a moment, a weapon only becomes a weapon when used with intent, and the only intent this blade ever had to my friend was as a link to what she lost, to remind her and keep her family with her wherever she goes, and now she is lost and the only thing she had left broken and shattered, please, help restore its spirit and let it save a life for once, give it that chance."

Just got back wondering why are we discussing a riot when we don't even have the resources to successfully pull one off. we need to build up or abilities first. I doubt a few months will be sufficient but who knows.

I know we where planing on doing one in the future but it seems like suicide to commit this early to one.

>>33185989
Because it isn't our job to take out the most powerful of enemies. That's the leaders job. Plus, events are accelerating, so lets get going while the going's good.

>>33185989
because everything is going to be over if we dont do something right now
>months
we barely have hours

its suicide to do nothing right now

>>33186017
We have a week to get ready and mount the operation max. 2-3 days is much better though.

>>33185989
>we need to build up or abilities first
we also need to get around to allocating our DP instead of putting that off for months...

>>33186053
Hard to do when we have a multi thread backlog of DP Sand hasn't awarded us.

>>33186103
indeed

its kind of feeling like fighting level 80 enemies in WoW when we're forever stuck at 60

>>33186117
try 20. Take a look at Miyu's sheet then compare it to ours. She has something like a million DP.

>>33186142
Makes me glad we got out of that ambush in one piece.

>>33186117

reaso why i am stating this is because unless acturus is dead we are screwed. He will simply plung the continent into sub zero killing everyone.

Also from a logistic standpoint we will be screwed they won't have to fight us. just close off the portals let everyone die due to lack of food and stuff.

See why i am sort of concerned about trying to revolt early. I am all for rescue operation but revolt is a bit much currently.

>>33186142

Miyu has nearly all of her super sciences maxed out. It's excessive, but you don't need to follow same thing as her.

>>33186190
>but you don't need to follow same thing as her.
no, what we do need is our massive backlog of DP...

>>33186181

>reaso why i am stating this is because unless acturus is dead we are screwed. He will simply plung the continent into sub zero killing everyone.

He won't. Pride Demons need subjects as part of their strength and Aether regeneration. Plus not every Pride demon in the area is immune to cold, so he'd be effectively killing his own men.

>>33186181
We are more reliant on our controls than she is on her super-sciences though. At the very least, we need Dark and Light as high as feasible.

>>33186199
Honestly, we need to go to a different system for the NPC's, no one seems to be able to manage their growth

>>33186314
>no one seems to be able to manage their growth
what growth?

we, or any of our allies, haven't advanced for fucking months and its getting to the point where we are starting to be crippled by it

>>33186333
Oh, we're advancing. Not at the rate I'd like mind you, but we are advancing.

>>33186333

No one ever seemed to spend DP on allies, so I'm basically treating them as levelling up on the side.

Brooklyn still levels up as normal, and I'll hand out the DP at the end of the thread.

>>33186362
>Brooklyn still levels up as normal, and I'll hand out the DP at the end of the thread.
Good, because its getting game breaking, and I wouldn't exactly call stagnating progression-wise for 20 threads 'normal'.

>>33186384
We put up a better performance against Dis than a pair of Dukes did, that has to be worth some DP. and by "Some" I mean "A lot"

>>33186384

Last thread had enough votes to get Axes to good and space control to Average though

>>33186466
I think the real sense of frustration is that we're a still so outclassed. We're getting pretty powerful, but compared to the people we deal with we're basically a bug, with no sense that that situation will change any time soon.

>>33186466

reason why spending xp is hard is because multiple people want to go in different directions and we don't have enough xp to get the relay shiny stuff so we want to save. this is my assessment of the situation.

>>33186362
>No one ever seemed to spend DP on allies,
That's because in order to spend DP you need a consensus of some kind in the thread.
You have hard enough time doing that for Brooklyn, to have people do that for every single character is just silly. It drags down the quest. So yea, just switch to auto-leveling them up yourself. With maybe an input by Brooklyn here and there. (if for example Erika asks Brooklyn on what she thinks she should train in etc).

And honestly, as >>33186384 said.
>and I wouldn't exactly call stagnating progression-wise for 20 threads 'normal'.
We are just crawling along. Especially if you consider the things we are facing. It gives players no sense of progression.
>>33186524 said it correctly.

>>33186554
what if rules were made for spending DP that were more than just "every person votes for his own idea"

lets say, two or three popular ideas get voted on

>>33186524

I think I should make something clear then.

One thing I intended for this thread was teamwork. I gave NPC's stat sheets originally to show what their capabilities are and so an idea how to use them for certain challenges (Nalika I still need to stat). Many of the bosses presented in this thread are often powerful enough to grind any single one of your party members into a fine paste. But with teamwork, your power increases exponentially and will allow you to take down some the bigger threats.

Look at Miyu for example. She was far stronger than Brooklyn is currently, but she had trouble fighting even two demon General's at once, let alone three or more.

Basically part of me wants to avoid this becoming something like DBZ, in where Goku seems to solve almost everything by being the strongest and the rest of the group is there as a peanut gallery.

>So you're saying we can never fight the bosses on equal terms?

No I didn't say that nor do I mean that. If I say In game that Brooklyn is on par with someone, he'd be able to fight him (The Hero who declared Brooklyn his rival being one example), but if they're stronger you'll want to bring friends. You (probably) won't need to bring an army, but a group of your close allies will suffice.

After saying this, I'd have probably shot myself in the foot, but god knows I have a habit of doing that.

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"This particular blade has not been used as a weapon for a long time, it is a link to the past, the only link a friend of mine has to her history and her departed family, and this blade, right now, has a life to save, not hurt, but it cannot do it broken and its spirit shattered.” you tell her.

Latooni looks concerned as you say this. “I-I’m not so sure Lady Brooklyn...”

“Latooni think for a moment, a weapon only becomes a weapon when used with intent, and the only intent this blade ever had to my friend was as a link to what she lost, to remind her and keep her family with her wherever she goes, and now she is lost and the only thing she had left broken and shattered.” you tell her.

“You mean it was a family heirloom?” Latooni asks.

“It *was* her family Latooni. She was so shocked by it’s destruction that she was in grieving for nearly three days, and still is to an extent. Please, help restore its spirit and let it save a life for once, give it that chance." you ask her.

Latooni looks conflicted, putting down the donation tray while taking the blade in her hands, taking out the blade to have a look at the shattered blade. “...Even though it’s broken, I can tell that a lot of love and care went into this blade.”

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“You can tell that?” you ask her.

“Yes, you can often tell the difference between one who uses a weapon as a tool compared to being their soulmate. The wax used on this blade... It’s very high quality, even though cheaper options exist.” Latooni says running her fingers along the edge of the blade, like a wine connoisseur inspects wine. “...Fine. I’ll do it. Does the blade need to be finished by a certain time?”

“It’s owner is on a pilgrimage, so I’m not sure when she’ll be back.” you reply.

“I just hope I can do a good enough job to make the owner happy though... Usually it’s considered bad luck to reforge such an important possession.” Latooni says sheepishly as she puts the damaged blade back into it’s sheath.

(Answer Latooni and pick one of the following)

A) Go to see your Uncle and Sister
B) Go to the Library and see if you can find out how Mary is doing
C) Other

>>33186783
uncle and sister
definitely

>>33186783
Check Mary methinks

>>33186783
"Don't worry Latooni, if theres anything that can cheer her up, it would be seeing it restored."

>A) Go to see your Uncle and Sister
I vote that because I want to see if we can get Luna's help and plan some more for the future and want to check on the family first before we consume the thread with the library

>>33186721
>After saying this, I'd have probably shot myself in the foot, but god knows I have a habit of doing that.
I don't want this to be like DBZ, but I think you're taking the wrong tack. We aren't an adventurer, and us players didn't show up to play as adventures. We showed up to play a Demon Lord, says so right in the title. Ergo, the power of teamwork being an equalizer because we're weaker than our opponents should not be our normal means of dealing with things.

We shouldn't be Fighting the Hero 1v1. We should be fighting him and his party like a proper demon lord.

We shouldn't be teaming up against the local pride demon lord. We should be fighting him one on one while our friends deal with his mooks, champion and knights.

We don't handle everything by ourselves, but we should be one of the most powerful people on our side, and more than a match for most individual opponents we are likely to face.

>>33186912
Basically this. What happened when we raided that weapons depo a few threads ago should be the default. Not the "teaming up on more powerful enemies"

>>33186721

I like the team work aspect as well but a lot of situations seem like we are so out of league no amount of teamwork will matter or make much of a difference. I am not saying those situations should not happen it is just that it can get tiring especial when session are so infrequent.

>>33186912
>>33187009

I'd like there to be a middle ground between these points where we are powerful on our own, but doubly powerful with our party supporting us, finding that equilibrium is hard though

>>33186912
Agree with this. Most of the time, I'd vastly prefer us to be roughly even or stronger than the strongest enemy in the fight

>>33187036
One Piece.

>>33186783
"The only constants in life are change and taxes. If the blade wants to be reforged, you'll find a way. If it needs preparations for someone else to do it, you'll know. Do what's needed only. And thank you, Latooni."
B) Go to the Library and see if you can find out how Mary is doing

>>33186783
Library.

>>33187060
I agree that one piece does a great job of handling this kind of action. every member of the straw hat crew at this point is a certified badass with enough power to wade through mooks and mid level bosses without too much difficulty. Enen so there remain threats that they have to team up to take down and many of their enemies do not exist in a vaccume, they too have their own friends allies and teams of powerfull minions. It's a system where the main character, Luffy in that case, can throw his weight around and feel powerful meanwhile he still has a ways to go before he can take on the really big guys.
I'm not saying we should be able to solo Dis anytime soon but we are supposed to be a deamon lord, and right now our power level dosen't feel very lordly
sorry for the wall of text

>>33187190
>>33187060
its an apt comparrison that would be a nice comfortable solution

>>33187190

No, I think this is a pretty good analysis speaking of sorts. Pretty much most of the members in the group are like this right now.

Now as for DP.

I checked the past revisions of Brooklyn's sheet, last time I gave DP was March 7th, so I'm going to assume I was on track then.

Since then, five significant events happened which IMO warrant DP:

1) Taking the twins on a date + finally bedding them.
2) Raiding the Vampire base + escaping with an additional party member AND not being caught.
3) Corrupting Amelia
4) The Vampire frame job
5) Escaping the meeting with three leaders

All together I figure this should be about... 315 DP. All in all this should give you about 600 to spend now. If you think I left out any events, let me know.

Popular vote seems to be library, and my IRL friends are bugging me to go over to their place, so I think I'll end the thread here for now. I'll make a new thread on Sunday. Feel free to debate on how DP should be spent.

As for how DP should be spent on allies, don't worry about and just assume that they level up by themselves. I realize now it's probably far too much work to keep about a dozen detailed sheets, so just use your allies sheets as guidelines.

>What if we want to teach our allies new tricks not on there?

I'll... figure something out.

>>33187504
Thanks for the thread Sand

as for DP votes, I'll let the other smarter anons discuss that and trust them as its very late here, if the thread is still up when I'm awake I'll go through the sheets and add my votes in, there seemed to be some talk of leveling axes earlier which sounded decent

bumping for anons to vote on DP spending

>>33187504
Yo Sand, the G Docs ain't linked in the thread, mind posting them so we can look at the char sheets?

Without looking at them I'll vote for upping our Ax'ing (we really should get a good axe to use, otherwise the skills are useless) and leveling Light and Space control if we can.

>>33188603

What do you mean? Are the links wrong?

Anywho, Brooklyn's sheet here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16x32JNNBRnUAk-PQNXcqMaVvtDMLsHRARj3kk4mrj1M/edit

>>33188603
They're in the Doc linked at the top. It just gets ugly.

>>33188622
ah, derp, the link in the OP was cut off and put on to 2 lines and I missed it

in that case, my votes are (the 'DP Expenditure part at the end of the doc looks very out of date)):
no idea what any of these cost
>Medicine: Basic > Average
>Foreign Customs: Basic > Average
>Dodge: Great! > Awesome!
>Politics: Good! > Great!
>Enhances Space Control > its not listed what we're currently at, but I'll vote for leveling it up one rank.

Again, not much of an idea of what these cost

>>33187504
okay, I'll admit that I was hoping for a LOT more DP. I'd consider 100 DP per thread to be a slower progression than I'd hope for. 2030 or so per thread is the average I'd like. I don't suppose we can conclude nice you to increase the XP scale? Or at least give us a timeout soon that will allow us to graduate to the big leagues?

Upgrade axes and if we can afford it boost light and dark. No idea on these prices

I am all for upgrading Axes
And to upgrade light and dark. If we can't afford it.
Then upgrade space control and skills from >>33188932

bump

>>33188932
>>33188603
...Give me a minute. Also, you guys have no idea how this works.
>>33190121
Upgrading light or dark one rank costs 1000 DP. You now know why we complain.
>>33187504
You forgot "Fought Dis to a draw, while inflicting more damage than two dukes did combined, despite being much weaker than either of them." That's kind of important.

>>33192481
Upgrading light or dark to Awesome Costs 1000 DP (and should really be outside the DP system. Asking a bunch of rotating anonymous internet users to save up for an ability for a year is silly)
Elemental Specialization (Light or dark) 250 DP each

Medicine to average: 35 (why would we do this? We have people for this)
Foreign Customs to average: 35 (kinda an odd request, but okay...)
Dodge to Awesome!: 50 DP
Politics to Great! 45 DP
Axe to Great! 45 DP

Any more questions?

>>33192702
how much would an upgrade to space magic be?

>>33192864
360

>>33187504
>No, I think this is a pretty good analysis speaking of sorts. Pretty much most of the members in the group are like this right now.
Yeah, I'm not sure you are listening to us, or at least understanding our complaints and suggestions.
>All together I figure this should be about... 315 DP.
Okay, scratch that, you definitely don't get it. We (Or at least I) want to play Dis. I want to have loads of Mooks, I want to have a core or loyal and capable knights (some of whom are legends in their own rights), a cool castle and I want the vast majority of pride demons (including knights and lesser nobility) to shit themselves at the thought of facing Brooklyn Browning in single combat. I don't want to do it all ourselves, but I do want our character to be considered by most to be one of the 20 or so most powerful Succubi in existence (Most don't know about the queens admittedly). And eventually be considered THE most powerful and respected Lust Demon, including the now revealed queens.

>>33193199
Now, I fully understand that that takes time and I'm not asking you to hand this to us on a silver platter. On the other hand, I've wanted this since thread 1, and its been over a year and a half. In that year and a half we've gone from below average to above average, but are still a gnat compared to the real movers and shakers in the setting. We've also managed to get a single formal vassal, who's vassalage I'm pretty sure you've forgotten. For that matter, when Wihelmina asked if we wanted her to be our vassal you had Brooklyn say no without even consulting us (when I, at the very least, would have said yes, I want her as the leader of the Knights of Browning).

So, to sum things up I'd ask you to do two things:
1. Stop unintentionally sabotaging our (or at least my) efforts to acquire vassals, and when we do acquire vassals, have their formal status be relevant and mentioned.
2. Increase how quickly Brooklyn increases power by a lot. Either through awarding more DP, or having us get substantial downtime after a story arc, and picking up several months/years later when Brooklyn is much more powerful.

>>33193219
>We've also managed to get a single formal vassal, who's vassalage I'm pretty sure you've forgotten
Hey, I remember at least. Though, yeah, it could stand to be mentioned at least occasionally.

>For that matter, when Wihelmina asked if we wanted her to be our vassal you had Brooklyn say no without even consulting us (when I, at the very least, would have said yes, I want her as the leader of the Knights of Browning).
That... was handled poorly. On the other hand, she'll probably swear herself formally to us once she returns.

>>33187504
>No, I think this is a pretty good analysis speaking of sorts. Pretty much most of the members in the group are like this right now.
Yeah, No its not. From what I understand, people want encounters to go like this, roughly in order of frequency.
Us power tripping by slaughtering hoards of weaker foes alone or with friends.
A Court battle Royal: us and our friends/vassals against a leader type roughly equal in strength to us and his followers
Us playing the demon lord to an adventuring party(or similar midboss types). TPK ensues
Us fighting someone stronger than us and having to use teamwork to defeat a single opponent.

Basically, #4 is happening about half the time, when the number should be closer to maybe 10% or so of fights.

>All together I figure this should be about... 315 DP. All in all this should give you about 600 to spend now. If you think I left out any events, let me know.

Getting all the leaders to agree to sit down and meet. We never actually got any DP for arranging the meeting. Also agree that it should be more not incluiding what I just mentioned

>>33193199
>>33193219
Can I +1 this?

>>33193969
Forgot to mention Manly Duels, which should be a bit more common than:
>Us fighting someone stronger than us and having to use teamwork to defeat a single opponent.

>>33187504
I'm heading to bed, But I would like to mention that your sheet is wrong. Seduction/Presuation and sexual arts to Good! plus willpower Dodge and ranged casting to Great! costs 255 DP, not 300. So you owe us another 45 DP

Is there anyway we could combine abilities/skills to speed things up?

For example, instead of light needing 1000 to level up how about we need 750 and elemental specialization light. The total cost would be the same but we would not need to stock up DP.

>>33195508
Quick learner seems like a good idea.

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>>33193199

>I want to have loads of Mooks

You have Fort Hope's purse strings, you can easily pull this off now.

>But they're fucking mortals

Mortals in this setting increase in power a lot when let by a competent supernatural commander. Plus an army will allow you to hold ground. No matter how good anyone gets in this setting, they cannot be anywhere and everywhere at once. An army used for this, and mortals vastly outnumber demons. Fort Hope has a lot of Succubi and demons, but that's because the Pride Demons funneled nearly all of the Succubi on earth and several other planets into there and Edmonton. Fort Hope is closer to what one would expect with demons and how many could be in a small city.

>I want to have a core or loyal and capable knights (some of whom are legends in their own rights)

Mina, Ada, your father, Brodin, Sebastien, Leona, Amanda, Erika the twins, Wilhelmina (when she comes back), Alex, Troy, Uilodsir (You people may knock these guys, but they have been improving and are still quiet good), and Nalika.

While not officially 'knights', I'd consider that a rather scary core group of people.

Shiva would rather record any kind of battle you're in then sell bootleg DVD's of the fights for laughs.

>a cool castle

True. You could try and pimp the Fort Hope castle out.

>>33196822

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>a cool castle and I want the vast majority of pride demons (including knights and lesser nobility) to shit themselves at the thought of facing Brooklyn Browning in single combat

Average is called Average for a reason. Most Pride Demon nobility only HAS Average ranking for offense skills with a good ranking in some social magics, with many of the knights having Good rankings. Remember Blizzarios? IIRC correctly, his ice rank was only Good. Brooklyn's magic ratings right now for Light and Darkness are Great, which means she's on par with the Pride Demon Elites (Who generally only specialize in one element) and Greed Demon casters (Greed Demon physical defenses are GARBAGE to compensate for high levels and more than one element). Dis is an outlier among the Generals, as even the ones who attacked Miyu really only had one element.

Case in point. Remember that raid on base last thread? Against the Greed Demon? His ranged attacks was pretty good, but the moment we closed in and stabbed the bastard he sure as hell felt it. Okarians may be weak, but to the Greed Demon's Brooklyn is like a Belkarian in terms of strength.

In terms of power, Brooklyn does have the power to make a lot of the Pride Demon nobility known to fear him. It's only powerful, notable figures such as Lord Dio who can fight on par with him.

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The main antagonists I can think of that are stronger than Brooklyn without a doubt are:

- Dis: A demon general with Light/Dark magic, and unlike Brooklyn actually has pretty good physical defense and damn good in melee (Both to hit and physical damage) to boot. Brooklyn has a mobility advantage, but Dis has an offensive/defensive one currently.

- Brooklyn Draugr: Bullshit powers means he's going to have what Brooklyn has +1 without the Okarian physical problems. Directly overpowering him isn't generally an option with him, but he's not overwhelmingly strong enough to be beaten with proper cunning as unlike others, you know what his powers are for a fact.

- Articus: A Demon General who specializes in ice and current ruler of Canada. Crippled, but still currently very strong in his related area.

- Valvosa: A Pride Demon king who in game has been described with a power level more akin to a Demon Emperor. Ate Miyu's most powerful attacks and still kept coming.

- King of Despair: Theoretical, but if alive anyone who can take one 14 Demon Emperor class opponents *at once* and beat about 11 of them is cause for concern.

But you ask what about people like the Succubi leaders?

The only leaders alive when the Queen's were in power were Fredika and Oksana's daughters, with the rest of the Queen's daughters unaccounted for. Right now you are WAY stronger than Arum is, certainly stronger than Beck (Outside of any theoretical super weapons she may have), Rebecca, Ishtar, and probably with Lita and Aria being on par (The two can fuse, but only for a limited time).

>>33197061

Oh, stronger than Brooklyn currently. Meant to say currently.

>>33193969
>Us power tripping by slaughtering hoards of weaker foes alone or with friends.
>A Court battle Royal: us and our friends/vassals against a leader type roughly equal in strength to us and his followers
>Us playing the demon lord to an adventuring party(or similar midboss types). TPK ensues
>Us fighting someone stronger than us and having to use teamwork to defeat a single opponent.
>
>Basically, #4 is happening about half the time, when the number should be closer to maybe 10% or so of fights.
^ this, this is what is the most bugging me. I think it's also the main reason we perceive Brooklyn as weak and with slow progress.
We should at least upgrade something (either few skills or a power) each thread.

But Sand could give more DP, considering the accomplishments.

>>33192702
I all for doing Element Spec for light and dark (500 DP) This should help us with the ANNIHILATOR BEAM as well, no?

+ Axe to Great! 45 DP and Dodge to Awesome! 50 DP
If we get extra DP as said Sand owes us, then Politics to Great! 45 sounds good. We are going to deal with that eventually.

>>33194191
So, looking at abilities really quickly, Elemental specialization costs 250, so 500 for a 20% bonus to Darkness and Light Control. However, Aether Burn is 120, which would give us up-to-50% more damage, as long as we increase the cost by an equivalent amount. This'll also work on things like social attacks (giving us more of a bonus for more Aether), and will probably also work with Cloaking and even Aether Sight (to detect with greater accuracy and so on).

Also, getting Axes to Great would give us Gravity Axe Smasher (which would give us a highly powerful attack with far less Aether use the Final Buster Spark).

we really need a better voting system to spend the DP

>>33198313
all of those sound good

>>33198313
>>33198254
i prefer the specialization x2 + axe + dodge option

>>33203033
no need to bump the thread anon as per >>33187504
>so I think I'll end the thread here for now. I'll make a new thread on Sunday.

>>33203068
oh, i didnt see

okay

>>33198313
Uh, we already have aether burn

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>>33197061
>The only leaders alive when the Queen's were in power were Fredika and Oksana's daughters, with the rest of the Queen's daughters unaccounted for. Right now you are WAY stronger than Arum is, certainly stronger than Beck (Outside of any theoretical super weapons she may have), Rebecca, Ishtar, and probably with Lita and Aria being on par (The two can fuse, but only for a limited time).
No offense, but you've done a poor job showing it. Since I had no idea.

>Remember Blizzarios? IIRC correctly, his ice rank was only Good
Great! actually. Also, he was explicitly established as a rookie knight on his first mission, that is he was about the weakest we could expect a knight to be. Maybe he was exceptionally talented if inexperienced?

>True. You could try and pimp the Fort Hope castle out.
Except that's Ada's castle. We aren't the ruler of Fort Hope, and Ada isn't our vassal. Also, seriously doubt we'll be forming a Coup any time soon, so unless Ada wants another job we won't be the lord of Fort Hope.

>Mina, Ada, your father, Brodin, Sebastien, Leona, Amanda, Erika the twins, Wilhelmina (when she comes back), Alex, Troy, Uilodsir (You people may knock these guys, but they have been improving and are still quiet good), and Nalika.
Only Amanda is actually sworn to us though, even if its never mentioned. I, at least, want the trappings of nobility as well.

>>33204947

>Average is called Average for a reason. Most Pride Demon nobility only HAS Average ranking for offense skills with a good ranking in some social magics, with many of the knights having Good rankings. Brooklyn's magic ratings right now for Light and Darkness are Great, which means she's on par with the Pride Demon Elites (Who generally only specialize in one element) and Greed Demon casters (Greed Demon physical defenses are GARBAGE to compensate for high levels and more than one element). Dis is an outlier among the Generals, as even the ones who attacked Miyu really only had one element.
Now I'm just confused. You established a ranking for demonic nobility that went:
Baron - Lord - Count - Duke - King - Emperor
With Knights going from below Baron to roughly equal to a duke
And was usually reflective of power because any demon too weak for their position got murdered and usurped.
Articus has been repeatedly described as Lord Articus. That is, a demonic noble of the second rank, AKA a relatively minor noble in the grand scheme of things. We've been told that he has Ice at Master. As he's the only lord we know of, the reasonable assumption is that second rank demonic nobility usually has one control at Master level (assuming his focus on controls is roughly average across demonic nobility.)

So, here are my questions, because I think we're talking past each other:
1. Were does Articus actually stand on the Baron - Emperor Scale? How would "Lord Articus" stand up to Duke Fredrika? I was assuming he'd be basically slaughtered.
2. Where does Brooklyn stand on the scale? I was assuming he was still a relatively weak Baron, but you're describing him like a Count. That is, weaker that the Dukes (Fredrika, Oskana's daughters) but equal to or stronger than everyone else.
3. On a related question what would an average Okerian of the various ranks have as their strongest controls, assuming they were built roughly like we are?

>>33198414
It's great for a few players who understand what they're doing in a tabletop setting. But in this sort of voting area, it's a lot more difficult.
>>33203752
Well crap, we should start using it then. Supporting >>33199413, although we need to save our next points for either Ranged Accuracy or Willpower.

>>33206545
What do you guys think of time magic. I think we can store and decrease casting times of our spells if we get good enough.

>>33204967
>>33204947
While you are slightly rude, you do have a point. I, at least, had no idea that we are apparently one of the dozen or so most powerful Succubi in the city. It also makes me a bit confused, as Oskana's suggestion to get a mentor doesn't make much sense if we're at least as strong as the other Okerians besides her family, since that whole dynamic wouldn't apply to us anyway. Hell, we could probably get half a dozen or more Okerians wanting US to be their mentor if we're as powerful as Sand seems to be suggesting.

>>33206545
>It's great for a few players who understand what they're doing in a tabletop setting. But in this sort of voting area, it's a lot more difficult.
Especially since I'm usually the one who comes up with the plan, so I get my way about 90% of the time. Not bragging, just saying I have outsized influence in the process (which I'm trying to avoid this time, Note how I'm not voting)
>Well crap, we should start using it then.
Pretty sure we are. Certainly seemed like it when we were countering Dis's spells


>>33207422
Not sure if Time Control is a thing, and given Sandact's beliefs on resurrection time travel is probably impossible. If it is, the it would probably require us to get the control to at least average to do any good (Basic controls are terrible wastes of DP).
Now, rapid casting might be an ability we could buy.

>>33207422
Extra turns, decreased casting times, it's as important as Fate control, if not more so.

>>33204967

1) Articus's power is considered on par with Fredika back in his prime. I originally thought out the power levels in nobility to be rough guidelines. Two Barons may not be equal in power, and it's unsurprising to find a Baron basically ripping another Baron in two in terms of straight up power.

2) Right now? Hard to guess really. I'd say very high level Lord at this point or at least a Count level in power on the scale you provided. As you climb up the scales you tend to get fewer and fewer people in those power rankings. Like officially here is often only one Duke per continent while Counts often look after major cities, Lord's have small collections of lands and Baron's often just manage important buildings.

A good example of powerful classes is Shiva (Let's face it, I'm not fooling anyone in what she actually is). Shiva, even as an Empress, is considered absurdly strong. To the point where Valvosa realized that just fighting her *alone* would be more costly than trying to beat and subjugate the Wrath demons like the Succubi. Even with an army.

>>33208082


3) For comparison?

Peasant: Average skills. Those who have a Good rank in an elemental magic are usually specialized workers, like demolition specialists or water treatment workers. A LOT of demons are like this, and many don't want official ranks because they often just want to live their 9 to 5 jobs and enjoy life as best as they can, and being a part of the ranking system means you constantly look over your back. In terms of 'unofficial' ranking amongst Demons, Brooklyn is here.

Baron: Good ranks are commonplace amongst one or two schools of magic. Can see Great amongst dedicated specialists, though rare.

Lord: Something at Great is often expected and the norm. You generally see more things at good than the ones below.

Count: Multiple greats with some goods in other areas. May have awesome rank if they are really dedicated, those that do are in the strong area of this class.

Duke: An awesome skill in something along with many great skills. Those in the upper levels generally have one Master class skill but sometimes at the detriment of having lower skills in other areas, often very old demons. Articus is in the latter. Dis is probably considered on the very peak of this area due to his high specialization in light and dark.

King/Queen: Typically many skills at awesome rank with at least one at master rank. At this point your aether reserves go through the roof to compensate for the massive cost of spells.

Emperor: Skills typically at master class and up are the norm. The classification ends at this point, so even if literally maxed out everything you'd still be considered Emperor tier in strength, unless they make a new power title.

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Those are guidelines, but for the demon world, the bottom line is "If you can beat the crap out of some rank and defend yourself against challenges, you are that rank and crush anyone who says otherwise." If you're a Count power, manage to trick a King/Queen into death then trick everyone who tries to kill you for you title into some bad end, you're that rank.

>>33207650

>Not sure if Time Control is a thing

It is. Anytime I look at time control arcs I cringe at all the causality effects.

Time Travel however is outright possible. Time Control could do things like slow time, HASTE, speed it up, predict the outcome of certain events, find out how things worked in the past, and so on. No offense but every time I saw time travel introduced I often cringed at all the interweaving storyline and causality effects.

For a good example of time control, look at the Belkarian battle focus that Mina has. It's basically a clan-specific self-haste that Belkarians get off the bat.

>>33208140
>>33208127
>>33208082
> I originally thought out the power levels in nobility to be rough guidelines.
I don't think anyone thought the nobility was anything more than a rough guideline. The problem has been that our primary point of reference was Lord Articus, who is so atypical as to produce a highly scewed picture of the situation. After all, he's two ranks higher than his official title

>Those are guidelines, but for the demon world, the bottom line is "If you can beat the crap out of some rank and defend yourself against challenges, you are that rank and crush anyone who says otherwise." If you're a Count power, manage to trick a King/Queen into death then trick everyone who tries to kill you for you title into some bad end, you're that rank.
The other alternative is presumably to be granted a rank by someone higher on the totem pole than you are, which is what the Queens did to Brooklyn. Since he has to keep it a secret for obvious reasons it isn't very helpful in social situations mind you, but what can you do eh?

Of course, since Both the Empress and Emperor of the pride and Lust demons don't exist anymore, no new Queen titles can be created for those respective species. If someone took the Empress or Emperor title they could create new kings and Queens, but they'd also be murdered by Valvosa or the Queens, so it hasn't happened. Which means that the Queen and King Titles are such scare commodities that an "average" probably doesn't exist.

Also bears mentioning that powerful friends and allies can skew the system further. For example, if the Queens were to give Brooklyn the title of Duke, most ambitious succubi wouldn't be tempted to steal the title despite his relative weakness because the Queens might murder them. Thus, if someone of Lord or Count strenght got granted the title of Duke by Valvosa, they could probably keep it for a while.

>>33208942

I mainly used "Lord" by accent. I personally thought Lord Articus has a better ring. Plus most of the time you address someone higher than your station like "Yes mi'lord" or something akin to that.

>Of course, since Both the Empress and Emperor of the pride and Lust demons don't exist anymore, no new Queen titles can be created for those respective species.

In theory, nothing is stopping the current Succubus Queen's from declaring themselves an Empress. Hell, nothing's stopping Brooklyn. It's just when you do, other Succubi are going to "Let me prove that" OR be accepted as such. If one of the Queen's declared themselves as Empress, the rest would have to agree to it.

Why didn't they they elect an Empress after so long? Good question to ask.

As for the Pride Demons, Valvosa is basically a figurehead for the current Emperor who is nothing but a vegetable. There is nothing stopping a Pride Demon King from declaring himself Emperor aside from Valvosa stepping up and immediately challenging any sort of claim "in the Emperor's name".

There's nothing stopping Succubi like the Subota's or Fredika from declaring they're the Belkarian or Okarian Queen's in theory, but you're correct in that Valvosa does not want central figurehead for them. That's why they're simply called "Leaders".

How "strong" one's friends can be is a factor, but generally nobility doesn't give ranks out to weaker demons normally. This is because the responsibilities that come with the station usually merit that kind of power, and your higher ups probably gave you that rank in order to do some task, not for them to do a task for you.

But yes, superiors killing inferiors who stole their titles isn't unheard of, so often they need to be sure they can do a better job... assuming they're not arrogant enough to believe they can do everything better.

I want to change my vote of DP to Space control and Axes to Great . We NEED high Space control for the portals, and I don't really trust Oksana's daughter to help us for long (or completely). If everyone feels that we don't breed it, it's fine, I just feel the need to say this.

>>33210502
If upgrading Space control would allow us to be able to open portals big enough for people to walk through, then i vote for that too.

>>33210968

It would.

Space 3 allows you to make portals, but with a few exceptions:

1) They're temporary, lasting only about 10 seconds.

2) They have a long casting time, meaning it's extraordinarily had to cast in combat time.

3) Attempting to open a portal in the vacuum of space is immensely difficult, as are places which are hostile to life. Reason: I'm always hated save dies, and throwing person through a portal into the surface of a sun then closing it seems like a save or die. Opening portals to the Lost jungle of Godzilla Island is fine though.

Still, being able to travel between Fort Hope and Old TO with a simple ritual is fun. Or why stop there. Go to Japan.

>>33211278
Lets get Shiva to organize a little party at New T.O. for the Rage demons in the area. Sold give us the beginnings of an army, and she can sit on a nearby hill, get her bootlegs, and make sure Nalika doesn't die.