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It has been five days since you dealt with the humans and their alien servants, and since then you have been busy counting your spoils. The Hel’s Angel has been submerged into the ground and a third outpost is already in the making. The two engines of the Angel seem to both contain most of the thrusters and the FTL drive, along with most of the ship’s power source. You have removed them and taken them back to your hive for study, along with the remains of Lyle’s suit. Lyle himself is still in the regeneration tank. While you still have mixed feelings over keeping him alive, he should prove far more valuable alive than dead. Even if you can’t gather any information from him personally, the battery of experiments and research available with a live human should prove most enlightening. He will help you, regardless of his position on the matter.

Huey and Dewy have been huddled in the corner of their cell for the past few days, and make a terrible whining noise whenever they are separated to perform a task in the ship. While they speak constantly, they don’t often say anything of importance. They appear to be the mechanics of the ship, judging by their extensive working knowledge of the ship’s systems, and like Coil, are incredibly dedicated to keeping themselves alive. Coil has proven more a conversationalist than the Taidaren twins, and your short conversation with him has revealed he is the Angel’s pilot and navigator. They have all been moved into the more secure holding cells you constructed just outside the ship, and the buried ship has become the centerpiece of a small subterranean prison.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest
>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest
>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
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>>33090557
>Current armory
26 Thorn Launchers
19 Sting Casters
3 Fire Sprays

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 698
Metals: 1863

>Hive population and upkeep cost
Queen – 5
Worker (75) – 150
Warrior (25) – 100
Thinker (24) – 72
Speaker – 3
Digger (10) – 40
Refinery (2) – 14
Sniffer (2) – 8
Wasp (18) – 90
Antenna (3) – 9
Shock Troops (20) – 220
Nutrient costs: 711

>Income
Nutrients: 1050
Net: 339

Hive Structure
>Reservoir
>General storage
>Food storage
>Advanced Laboratory
>Infrastructure
>Hangar facilities: Room for 20 Aero Drones and 10 Shuttles
>Mine: +250 M per day (+25 M per digger)
>Algae Farm: +1000 N per day, 10 Workers (1 worker per 100N)
>Clarke Research Outpost
>Hel’s Angel Prison Outpost

New Construction Options
>Hangar Expansion – Add on to current hangar facilities for your choice of +40 aero drone space, or +20 shuttle space. 50N 100M
>Docking Pylon – Large spire designed to service the operation, construction and maintenance of larger FTL capable ships. Each Pylon holds 4 docking spaces for ship construction and maintenance. 100N 400M
>Labyrinth – a complex network of tunnels and dead ends crisscrossing between your hive and outposts, providing your drones with safe, quick, and reliable transit between them while confusing and defending against enemy intruders.
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>>33090590
New Ship Construction Options
>Shuttle
Cost: 50N 150M
Size: 30 Meters
A small craft designed to transport goods, drones, or anything else that needs to move from one location to another. They are typically used only for transport to and from orbit, and can carry up to 25 medium sized drones at once, or a single large drone.

Space Pod
Cost: 20N 50M
Size: 10-20 Meters
Similar to your own pod, the standard Space Pod is an organic lump of sensors and maneuvering thrusters equipped with basic radiation shielding and a Blink Drive. They have very little room for cargo, and typically only carry a thinker and enough rations to last the duration of a mission. Due to the focus on small size and low energy signature, they are incapable of escaping a planet’s atmosphere, but can easily be towed by a shuttle.
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>>33090557
>>33090590
Double our amount of thinkers and workers.
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>>33090605
Finished Research
>Human Dissection
Your study of the dead humans from the Angel has proven rather interesting. They appear to be incredibly sensitive to their local environment, and their bodies are regulated by a complex and fragile mixture of chemical and electrical impulses. While you can’t be sure until you can perform tests on a live specimen, and preferably a large number of them for control purposes, you theorize that manipulating these subtle balances of chemicals and electrical signals could grant some control over a human’s behavior. In addition, you have taken note of the various locations of critical organs, increasing your combat effectiveness against humans.

>Conductive Armor Plating
Conductive Carapace: An interlocked network of woven metal microfibers that direct electricity away from critical areas. It instinctively reacts to incoming damage to complete circuits and direct energy in ways that do not damage organs or cause a decrease in drone performance. It is lightweight and mitigates energy damage, but does nothing against physical or thermal damage. 4N 15M
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>>33090635
>Ballistics
Study of the variety of projectiles used by the humans has granted insight into methods of developing new ammunition types for projectile weapons to mimic those you have faced.
Armor Piercing: Standard solid chitin slug deals raw kinetic damage.
Acid: Hollow slug filled with acid bursts on contact, coating the target in caustic acid to burn through armor and skin. Reduces target’s armor effectiveness and causes lasting chemical damage.
Hollow Point: A copy of the human ‘Hollow Point’, this slug expands and shatters in the wound, causing massive lacerations against unarmored targets, but is incapable of penetrating armor.
{LOCKED} Explosive: Grape Shot slugs explode on impact, causing explosive damage to the target and hitting adjacent targets with high impact shrapnel. Melee range AOE that causes heavy kinetic damage to unarmored or lightly armored targets. {REQUIRES GRAPE SHOT RESEARCH}
Incendiary: Hollow slug filled with volatile chemicals that ignite on impact, coating the target with a burning adhesive jelly. Ignites the target and does lasting thermal damage, but has little penetrating power.

Available research options
>Lightning gun
Very slow: potential of failure and destruction of sample device
This powerful weapon appears to throw rapid bursts of highly conductive plasma in a manner not unlike natural lightning. The humans of the Union call it a “CIP Pistol” which seems to stand for “Concentrated Ionized Plasma”. From what you have seen of it in action, it appears to have devastating damage potential, but is difficult to aim and holds a very short effective range.
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>>33090682
>Ion thrusters
Slow
The Unity drone is held aloft by a series of powerful ion thrusters that use the air particles around it, or stray particles found in the interstellar medium to accelerate and change vector in a highly efficient fashion. No real fuel is needed, only a powerful electrical charge. The only major drawback is that with the increase in efficiency comes a drop in overall performance and power. The Unity appears to have gotten around this limitation by carrying their drones in larger ships that transport them in and out of combat, and by limiting the drone’s size to a bare minimum.

>Cyclotron particle beams
Very slow: Runs a potential of failure and destruction of the sample device.
Unlocks Liner particle beam research
The Unity drone is equipped with four powerful cyclotrons, a ring of superconductors that use powerful magnetic fields to rapidly accelerate a series of particles to near-light speeds, which are each attached to one of the four main weapons. The cyclotron is both compact and efficient, but is relatively fragile as damaging any one component will disable the entire system. It also requires a short but noticeable amount of time for the cyclotron to accelerate a new shot. The drone fires them in sequence to account for this and provide more firepower.

>Oxygen recycler
Medium
In the process of disassembling the human environment suit, the thinkers found a culture of artificially mutated microorganisms. They were able to take several samples and have set them aside for further study and application. The humans appear to have used them in a small tank to turn CO2 into breathable oxygen; you may be able to do the same, reducing the rate at which your drones need to breath, allowing them to work in areas even a filter lung would not function such as underwater or in vacuum.
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>>33090590
>>33090605
Building a hanger expansion is a wise move now. We are in a position to make new holdings now over this world. There has to be more ore deposits and other useable materials on this world.
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>>33090635
>>Human Dissection
this should make "diplomacy" easier for us.(having the speaker manipulate humans with pheromones)
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>>33090701
>Reactive armor
Slow
While most of the human suit systems are designed to solve various failing of the human body, you may be able to learn from their chosen method of protection. The suit has a thin layer of microfibers that rapidly solidify into a dense shell when subjected to dangerous kinetic force, both serving as a cast for broken bones and protecting against blunt trauma. Developing a method of weaving a similar substance into your drones would greatly improve their resistance to impacts and ballistic attacks; however it would have no mitigating effect on directed energy weapons.

>Regeneration Tank
Very slow
These large tanks appear to be designed to rapidly heal wounds in some way, and further research of the tank’s fluid and the mechanism of the tank itself should offer insight into its inner workings.

>Gravetic Materials
Very slow/potentially dangerous: research and testing may result in unpredictable incidents
The strange exotic matter known as Canderon found within the Clarke appears to alter spacetime to some degree in the area around it when subjected to powerful electro-magnetic fields. While incredibly volatile, this material is clearly the key to Human Warp Drive technology, and research could lead to the replication of this technology if given time.

>Ceph Slip Drive
Very slow/Potentially dangerous
This strange device seems to be designed around four small black crystals referred to in the ship’s computer as Void Shards. Further research is required to unravel the inner workings of the device.
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>>33090590
>>Hangar Expansion 50N 100M
>>Labyrinth
Build these, and lets put these two up for vote.
Excavator
Olfactory: Basic 0
Acoustic: Medium 1
EM: Moderate 2
Psionic: Basic 0
Mandible: Construction 1
Blade: Tool 1
Arm: Str 1
Legs: Endurance 1
Utility: Chemical Forge 12
Carapace: Basic
Size: Large
Cost: 38N
Upkeep: 19N
The Excavator is essentially a cross between a worker, a digger, and a refinery scaled up to massive size. It can refine up to 250 Metals per day, and rapidly construct massive tunnels and caverns for large construction projects that must be done quickly. It is not harmless if attacked, as the forge can be used to spew a violently burning napalm-like substance that does massive chemical damage to anything it touches, and if killed with explode in a violent burst of chemical acid.

Colossus
Olfactory: Advanced 2
Acoustic: Medium 2
Radio: Medium 2
Psionic: Basic 0
Mandible: Combat 1
Blade: Combat 1
Arms: Str 1
Legs: Sprint 1
Carapace: Heavy 5N 20M
Size: Large X2 Cost
Cost: 30N 40M
Upkeep: 15N
Essentially a large warrior, the Colossus is a lumbering weapons platform suitable for both long range support and front line assaults. The graft hard point on its back can be used to deploy a Thorn cannon for artillery, a Rotary Stinger for Anti-Air, or any other potential tasks, while the head mounted hard point can be used for all manner of close range weapons, such as a rotary for anti-personnel and suppression, or a Plasma Spray for area denial and clearing out enemy cover. It is capable of short bursts of surprising speed, but is otherwise incredibly slow. Its blades, while rarely used, are massive two meter retractable spikes more than capable of puncturing any armor it may come across, and its own armor is thick enough to shrug off all but the most relentless of assaults.
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That's quite a lot of research update. While I'm reading I just want to say that we should build all three available structures and get many many more workers. Build more farms as well.
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>>33090725
>Drop Suit
Slow
Lyle’s powerful suit has proven more than worthy of a thorough examination as to its inner workings. You will need to take it apart before you know just what you have to research.

>Unity Computer
Medium
This powerful computer is based on some form of quantum mechanics that so far eludes your understanding. While damaged, further research into this device may yield some understanding as to the nature of the Unity’s social structure, or insight into their reasoning. This may prove useful should you seek future agreements or bargains with them.

>Grape Shot
Fast
This strange local fruit bursts open violently when disturbed, hurling sharp barbs in all directions. The potential weapon applications are obvious, but research must first be done to increase the explosive force to be effective in combat. The name, you note, is from one of Lee's few entries into the Union black box during their stay on the planet.

>Fungal spores
Fast/Potentially dangerous: Research and testing may result in unpredictable incidents or infection
The incredibly deadly spores of the ocean are a potential for further study, although grate care must be taken to avoid infection.

>Berry birds
Fast
The strange animated fruit of the small bush found in the jungle are interesting specimens. You are curious what a more in-depth study may reveal of the creatures, which seem to be both plant and animal at once.
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>>33090701
>>33090725
We'll need the oxygen recycler and Reactive armor is quicker to get and is still useable in the long run.
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>>33090782
Welp i feel stupid.
>>33090767
>>33090725
>>33090701
>>33090682
>Berry birds
>Fungal spores
(filter lungs are a must here)
>Grape Shot
>Unity Computer
>Oxygen recycler
Are my votes, lets kick out the fast research first.
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>>33090743
I agree with these things
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>>33090809
shit, change my vote to
>Grape Shot
>Berry birds
>Fungal spores
>Drop Suit
and
>Oxygen recycler
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>>33090767
>>33090725
>>33090701
Damn, that was quite the text dump.

I would prioritize the following, assuming that we're trying to keep a low profile and expand only on the planet:
>Ion thrusters
Good for long expeditions

>Oxygen Recycler
For working underwater and in spore-filled areas

>Regeneration Tank
Just one thinker, but these are incredibly useful for a variety of tasks.

>Drop Suit
Finish this as soon as possible. If we can't find ways to culture Lyle's cells, he may become too dangerous to keep alive after this.

>Fungal Spores
>Berry Birds
More nutrients=more power
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>>33090767
Your drones have uncovered a number of devices and technology aboard the ship, including a large terminal you have identified as the ship’s FTL communication relay. A small screen set in a black, featureless box with a small keyboard and microphone attached to the side.

Theseus still has no knowledge of the events that have unfolded, or that you now hold Lyle and his crew prisoner. In addition, Lyle is making a quick recovery in the tank and will be ready to move within the day to a more secure cell deep beneath the ship.

>>33090765
Yes, yes it is.
>>33090718
Not quite yet. That requires more finesse than you are capable of at the moment, and would require testing on a live subject. For now, you are limited to knowing where to hit, or knowing what will and will not kill a human. At the moment you can make poisons or deadly toxins, more advanced things would require more research.
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>>33090743
everything sounds great.


Could someone work out the math, set up drones to lay and expand our resource gathering operation greatly? It's very late here and I'm not really capable of thinking but I always thought that we are not expanding efficiently. We need more workers, more farms, more refineries and when we do that we can greatly increase our army
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>>33090956
So have we finished the new farms yet?
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>>33090956
>Your drones have uncovered a number of devices and technology aboard the ship, including a large terminal you have identified as the ship’s FTL communication relay. A small screen set in a black, featureless box with a small keyboard and microphone attached to the side.

Oh God, please, lets not touch this. We will inevitably contact someone and bring attention to us.

>Theseus still has no knowledge of the events that have unfolded, or that you now hold Lyle and his crew prisoner. In addition, Lyle is making a quick recovery in the tank and will be ready to move within the day to a more secure cell deep beneath the ship.

Maybe we should help Theseus and fix whatever he asked us to fix last time? Or at least let him help with our research now that there is no risk of him dying.
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>>33091071
Sure, but we have to be cautious he has a similar mind to us and it seems like we can tell each others emotions, i remember he exhibited a troubling feeling when we told him to wait.
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>>33090767
Things to reasearch:
Berry birds
Grape Shot
Oxygen recycle
Unity Computer.

After all those are done all of our thinkers should focus on Fungal spores in a attempt to try and keep the risks to a minimum.
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>>33091071
well we do have a couple of prisoners who probably do have the know how to do the repairs needed for Theseus.
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>>33091107
I think that since he made a new copy of himself and deleted the old one he thought that we saw him as entirely different being and distrusted him. Or something like that.
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>>33091035
Yes, and your income has been doubled. Net still isn't that much because you have increased your population as well.
>>33090956
>Hangar expansion: 50N 100M
Would you like to focus on shuttle or air drones?
>Labyrinth


>>33091071
Theseus will boost any research project greatly, with a good potential to reduce time to instant. If the Unity already have the tech he will ask a fee of another, relatively equally useful tech.

>Grape shot
>Berry birds
>Oxygen recycle
>Unity computer

You also have large drones available
>Lay Excavator: 38N (how many)
>Lay Colossus: 30N 40M (how many)
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>>33090767
Alright.
Build all three structures for
>150N 500M
+Labyrinth

Start research on
>Berry birds
>Fungal spores
>Grape Shot
>Unity Computer
>Drop Suit
>Human experimentation when Survivor Man wakes up

>>Spawn
>2 Shuttles for quick transport and movement, and in case of emergencys.
>100N 300M

>50 Workers
>250 N
>100 N upkeep

>12 thinkers (to start on the longer harder techs)
>72 N
>36 N upkeep

>2 new farms
>Unknown costs


Total:
572 N 800 M +Labyrinth and 2 Farms
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>>33091107
He is currently "trapped" in the ship's auxiliary computer core, since it was severed from the rest of the ship. The Clarke destroyed its own computer network when it was attacked, likely to prevent cyber attacks from the Unity. He currently has no access to auditory, visual, or any other form of sensors, other than the plug you are using to speak with him.
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>>33091231
>Lay Excavator: 38N (4)
>Lay Colossus: 30N 40M (2)
Also build another 10 farms, and double our worker and thinker amount.
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>>33091231
I'd like to focus on shuttles.
Let's ask Theseus about Human anatomy and trade him some ceph tech.
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>>33091231
I would say shuttles.
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>>33091327
>Let's ask Theseus about Human anatomy
Why?
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>>33091345
I'd like to preserve Captain Australia.
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>>33091327
>>33091342
It should be noted that shuttles do not have space for an FTL drive, and are essentially large, empty spaces with enough thrust to leave the atmosphere. They can move to other planets in the system, though, and can move from one point on the planet to another quite quickly.
At the moment, the only FTL capable ship you have the means to produce would be the Pod, which the shuttle can tow into space. The shuttle has a number of long legs that are normally folded under it that can be used to carry large objects like Pods or large drones.
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>>33091414
Well then. How about 2 or 3 shuttles with the rest of our focus being on aerial units.
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>>33091405
So that he can gain powers and partner up with you and fight crime?
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>>33091405
Yeah, this is asking for it to bite us in the ass.
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So many posts worth of research, maybe you could cosolidate them all into a pastebin to speed things up?
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>>33091231
Can we start expanding/reinforcing our tunnels, or is that included in >Labyrinth?
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>>33091405
>>33091457
Personally, If we can finish up on the human research, we can potentially have a controlled human cyborg that can enter into human space as our agent, but there's too many risks with that sort of path and I'd rather not deal with a hostile Strayan Cyborg again.
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>>33091303
I'll second this notion.
>>33091414
Can we have both drones and shittles?
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wouldn't using shuttles tip off the humans that we are not backwards, stoneage civilization?

Lets exploit the planet we are on first before venturing into the space.
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So can we try making some human drone hybrid or clone the human?
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>>33091495
Yes, it's included. Essentially it will slowly expand your hive tunnels out from the mountain and under the jungle to connect your two outposts.
>>33091516
Sure, even split like it is now and essentially double the size? +20 aircraft space and +10 shuttles?
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>>33091557
Sounds good.
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>>33091557
then chalk another vote for Labryinth, and one for drones
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>>33091479
We need someone who can deal with problems in human space with discretion.
And what I mean by that is someone who's not a giant space bug.
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>>33091541
Depends, we can easily use them in-atmosphere to help with the transport of materiel.

>>33091557
Sounds good to me.
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>>33091557
Welp, Labryinth gets my vote then.
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>>33091591
Can can just make a space bug to look human.
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>>33091515
I feel like it's worth the risk.
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>>33091231
looks like
>4 Excavators (152N)
>2 Colossi (60N 80M)

>>33091541
Their monitoring satellite has been disabled temporarily by Lyle and his crew when they arrived. You are not sure how long you have before it goes back online, but it should start broadcasting its warning again when it does.
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>>33091624
One that can pass biometric scans as human?
I don't think so.
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>>33091653
I have a feeling that lyle is a wanted man, so he wouldn't be a good for us other than connections, and knowledge.
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>>33091646
QD, what exactly does the satellite monitor?
Radio waves? exotic particle emissions?
Would any of the above be able to pass through the thick atmosphere?
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>>33091646
Sure
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>>33091677
We have been discreet, and the only troubling thing we have done is cover up the ship.
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>>33091668
Well he may or may not be wanted. We don't know.
What I'm saying is that we need something for when Lyles employers come looking for him.
I'd rather they find him alive and saying he quits or something like that.
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>>33091677
It monitors you, to put it simply. You are not sure how effectively it does this, but if you can pick up signals from it, it is a good guess that it can pick up signals from you. The atmosphere disrupts transmissions and blocks visuals, so it would likely only be able to pick up strong EM radiation, signs of what they would consider advanced tech. You don't use radio to communicate like they do, but many of your more advanced technologies do produce a decent level of radiation in their operation, and especially the items up for research.
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>>33091677
>Radio waves
The entire planet is lush with life that produces those and electricity. No way it can see through the atmosphere or see through the noise. It must be detecting exotic particles.
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>>33091742
Do shuttles produce detectable amounts of radiation?
I was hoping to use the shuttles to take over this planet quicker but if they alert the humans we can survive without them.
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>>33091742
we should drive the entirety of our industry deep underground.

It shouldn't be much of a problem, right? With large class workers, diggers and such building underground would be only a minor nuisance compared to above ground.
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>>33091859
I wholeheartedly support this idea.
(I wonder what sort of mushroom monstrosities live underground?)
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>>33091668
I feel like he'd be more of an asset to us alive than dead.
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>>33091859
A sensible plan, however, I don't think we can make a large space force (frigates and other large ships) beyond detection and inside a gravity well, unless I am sorely underestimating the capabilities of our tech base.
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>>33091646
Current resource total: 486N 1783M
You lay your new drones, and soon they will join the rest of your children in expanding your hive.

>>33091835
They do, but each one produces only a relatively small amount individually.

>>33091859
It already is, although some things simply can't be placed under ground, like your hangars, or a docking pylon. As a rule of thumb, if it can be made under ground it is.

The only above ground construction you have at the moment is half the Clarke base, which was made to cover the Clarke's engine section, your hangar, which is a covered armored door in the side of the mountain, and your antenna array, which is at the summit of the mountain. The Hel's angle has been buried and the connecting prison is all subterranean.
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>>33091957
Correct. Large ships require an orbital shipyard. The docking pylon can build the smallest of your FTL capable ships, (other than the pod) which are roughly equivalent to the Human's Corvette classification. The Clarke is a corvette.
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>>33091957
We could postpone our space force to expand slowly on this planet.
Then whenever we have a much larger nutrient and thinker base we could start space exploring
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>>33092048
>>33092021
Still I'd be comfortable with anti-orbital weapons, or anything that can take out a ship if it's foolish enough to go in-atmosphere, Acid-filled kamikaze shuttles should be a last resort.
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>>33092048
Well since shuttles don't make a bunch of radiation it doesn't have to be slowly.
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>>33091980
Your thinkers start their projects, but you suspect it will take some time to finish so many at once. You still remember Theseus's offer, and you wonder if it is still available.

>Ask Theseus to assist in boosting research
>Trade Theseus for Unity tech
>Make another offer for Unity tech
>Leave him alone
>Other
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>>33092143
>Leave him alone
let sleepers sleep.
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>>33092143
>Leave him alone
Help him though.
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>>33092143
>Leave him alone
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>>33092143
>Ask Theseus to assist in boosting research

To be clear, there is no danger of him dying anymore, right?

>>33092170
second helping
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>>33092143
Ask Theseus for Human biological data in exchange for Ceph technology.

Give it some help.
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>>33092190
Correct, the Clarke's computer is far larger, although eventually he will have the same problem as before, at which point re-connecting the computer system in the ship would help stave off death.
In the end though, it seems that his mortal lifespan is inversely proportional to the amount he learns. It is no longer an immediate issue though.
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>>33092243
by the time that happens again, we could easily expand his capacity, right?
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>>33092265
If you were to repair the Clarke's network and computer systems, then he would likely have years instead of the months he has now.
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Man this quest needs some drawfags it's pretty Damm hard to imagine what these bugs look like
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>>33092355
Like if you combined centaurs with ants.
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>>33092355
I use star ship troopers and enders game.
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>>33092355
Tbh I imagine the queen to look similar to the Queen that's in Ogre quest.
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>>33092381
>>33092396
Everything I coming out as Cazadors and ants
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>>33092355
Basically Sword of The Stars Hivers crossed with some bug species from Starship Troopers
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>>33092314
then I don't see any reason why we wouldn't ask him to help our research and repair the computers at Clarke
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>>33092424
Not bulky enough.
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>>33092314
Then let's ask him to help with our research.
I'd also like to fill him in on Lyle and ask his opinion on what we should do with him.
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>>33092441
This but with the sword arms of the earlier picture >>33092424, times like this I wish I could draw.
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>>33092143
You are divided on the issue, but you see little harm in asking a few questions to see what he will divulge for free.
>Speak to Theseus (write in)
>Leave him alone
>Other


>>33092355
That's why I tried to base the looks of common things off of things I can find pictures for.
>>33092396
Pretty much, yes.
>>33092408
Not familiar, but have seen it recommended.
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>>33092528
>>Speak to Theseus
Ask him what he would do with Lyle
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>>33092547
Seconding.
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>>33092528
>Speak to Theseus
Ask if Theseus if he can teach us how to work with Union and Unity tech so we can both fix it and make more of it as needed. we might be able to make new computer cores for him at this rate.
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>>33092528
>>Speak to Theseus (write in)

lets see how he has been doing the last few days
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>>33092528
"How have you found your new location?"
You sense him stop shifting the files momentarily as he directs his response to you. "I have increased the data storage efficiency of this server by .006 percent, and I suspect I may get another .002 by the end of this week."
You direct your question, trying to hide any information you may be able to sell him. "What would you do with Lyle once you had found him in your base?"
"As I said, we would often accept information, technology, or a free job in exchange for his freedom."
"But what insurance did he give you that he would uphold his deal?"
"None." He says, now resuming shifting the files. "He may be a violent and unlikable being, even for humans, but he is by no means stupid. He fully realized that if he would rescind on his deal than if he were to be captured again the results would be far less pleasant. Few things he says can be trusted, but if he claims to have made a contract, he will fulfill it. Something to do with his sense of pride, I think."
Interesting. You continue your questioning. "Would you assist in learning of this computer technology?"
"Of course, but for a price. I would request you repair this ship first. I will teach you what you would need to accomplish the task as it is done."

>Speak (write in)
>Agree
>Refuse
>Maybe later
>Other
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>>33092857
>Agree
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>>33092857
>Agree

We were going to do this anyway. Ask him about human biology as something for the short term.
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>>33092857
>>Agree
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>>33092857
>Agree
As a failsafe, install some acid bombs on the computers in case he gets uppity and make sure the comms, weapons or anything that can be used against us be secured.
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>>33092857
>Agree
>Other
"Your guidance in learning to repair this alien tech will speed this endeavor."
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>>33092857
>Agree
Free ship repair knowledge.
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>>33092857
I dunno, some anons wanted to retain strict a strict Hive theme. We can repair the computer bits, but I'd rather dismantle whatever we can.
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>>33092960
Nah, its that we don't trust robots, and with humans at least you know what they can do.
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>>33092960
Our stuff still has computer bits doesnt it? Even if it doesnt all our computers that we do make are probably going to be organic anyway.
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>>33092857
>>Agree
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>>33092984
I trust robots more than the humans.
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>>33092984
I think we can trust robots more than the humans
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>>33093041
other way around for me, with humans you can count on them betraying you, but robots it never certain.
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>>33093082
I don't trust either humans or robots.
The only one I trust is Lee.
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>>33093162
I don't trust humans or robots
The only thing you can trust is the Sun
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>>33093162
Lee is Queen's husbando.
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>>33092857
You agree, and the processors within quickly increase their power usage.
"Excellent. First, find and connect all functional computer systems and I shall run a diagnosis more detailed than the one the ship can provide."

He directs you as your steer your workers though the Clarke, and soon Theseus surges through the broken hull of the ship.
"The Power Tap is still functional, but is damaged." Se says. The power in engineering surges briefly as the radiation decreases. An automated voice pipes through some damaged speakers.
"Rad-rad-radiation shielding on-line, radiaaaaaaa-" The voice cuts into a field of static and is replaced with the more natural sounding voice of Theseus. "I have taken the place of the ship's primary computer system and will direct repairs from here." He pauses as he scours the ship, analyzing the systems. "Shield emitters have been destroyed, Canderon levels depleted, point defense turrets have been destroyed. Communication systems are offline, but operable.

He sends you plans for sealing the hull by scrapping most of the armor. It will make it frail but it will let the repairs of the rest of the ship commence.
You have the workers at the Clarke follow his instructions, taking note of Human ship design and technology as they do so.
>Offer tech for Unity tech
>Ask to boost research
>Ask (write in)
>Leave him alone for now
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>>33093213
I thought we were meant to praise the Sun?
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>>33093245
>Ask to boost research
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>>33093245
>Offer tech for Unity tech
see what he can offer first.
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>>33093245
>>Ask to boost research
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>>33093254
We praise it because it warms us
We praise it because it's trustworthy
We praise it because it's eternal
We praise it because it will Smite the heretics in a fire of holy retribution and cleansing light
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>>33093245
>Ask to boost research
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>>33093254
>>33093312
Shh.
Wrong quest.
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>>33093213
>>33093312

>>33093245
>Ask to boost research
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>>33093245
Boost research.
Ask to trade human biological data for Ceph technology.
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>>33093245
>Ask to boost research

Which tech do you wish to boost?
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>>33093374
Drop Suit
They should be intimately familiar with it at this point anyway.
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>>33093355
It sucks that the fan base is almost as toxic as the kill la kill fanbase.
>>33093374
Fungus
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>>33093374
Oxygen Recycler is the longest one we have right? If so that one.
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>>33093374
>Drop Suit
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>>33093394
we are researching this anon.
>Grape shot
>Berry birds
>Oxygen recycle
>Unity computer
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>>33093394
Ill second that.
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>>33093394
Unfortunately so. They already know that technology, so it's worthless to learn it again. Theseus will boost research into anything he does not know, because helping you will help him, but if he already knows the tech you will need to pay with a tech he doesn't know.
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>>33093446
Then Ocean Spores. I'm aware it's not in the four research topics, but damnit, I want my nutrient fluids being pumped throughout the tunnels.
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>>33093446
Oh okay, switching vote from Dropsuit to
>Ocean Spores
Since he's an AI and won't get infected right?
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>>33093446
what tech do we have that they don't have?
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>>33093446
>>33093531
The ocean spores seems like a good choice. It is new life to Theseus anyway, so it's all good.
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>>33093374
>Boost Drop suit research
Theseus already possesses this tech, and so researching it will grant him nothing. If you wish to boost this what tech would you like to use as payment?

>Boost fungus research
This won't decrease the danger associated with the research, but it will shorten the time, and thus decrease the time in which something bad could happen.
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>>33093562
He won't, but it isn't his lab the testing is happening in.
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>>33093592
>Boost fungus research
This might lead to mind controlled humans.
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>>33093592
Idunno what to trade, maybe the organic ramjet?
We did get it from the local wildlife. And he's cataloging local wildlife so yes.

Can we have the drones working and guarding the lab be equipped with filter lungs?
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Is it far fetched to say we have the knowledge to build a body he can transfer himself in to help researching the Spores?
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>>33093626
Or mind controled drones. Lets get a research they can't use on us.
>>33093592
>Anything but fungi
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>>33093658
Advanced lab has precautions that make the research much safer. A problem would only occur on a critfail, but is always a possibility no matter how remote. A critical results in instant tech gain due to Theseus helping you.
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>>33093592
Oxygen Recycler.
And trade Human Biological Data for Data of the creatures that got us the Jet Frame.
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>>33093692
True, but i have a feeling they would rather use tech to control humans instead of organic stuff like we do.plus i think they already have something like that.
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>>33093592
>Boost fungus research
the drop suit won't fail.
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>>33093592
I say boost the fungus.
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>>33093592
>Boost fungus research

Boost it.
Less time = Less time for something bad to happen.
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>>33093592
>Boost fungus research

You quickly explain what you know of the substance. A strange, ocean dwelling plant-like creature that releases deadly spores. Theseus is intrigued. "The consumption of electricity as a biological process is one of the reasons we targeted this planet for study. This is an agreeable arrangement."
You take note of that. Perhaps your research into the algae of your farm would be of a good value to him later.

>Boosting dangerous research
Please roll 1d100, best of 3
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Rolled 31

>>33093985
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Rolled 57

>>33093985
Here goes nothing!
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Rolled 78

>>33093985
Pls
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>>33093985
Don't fail us now
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>>33094004
NICE.
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Rolled 46

>>33094004
Good enough
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>>33094004
Heh, not too bad.
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>>33093985
wait.
>"The consumption of electricity as a biological process is one of the reasons we targeted this planet for study.

What was the other reasons for coming to this world? What about the other planets in this system? Do they have any possibility of interesting factors Unity wants to look at?
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>>33094099
The fact that the planet has such a peculiar orbit that causes extreme temperature fluctuations and presumably extreme evolutions in the flora and fauna.
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You know, we should ask Theseus when the next Unity expedition gets here, allows us time to prepare for 2nd contact without any misunderstandings like the first time.
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>>33094298
It seems reasonable to do so.
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>>33094218
Yes, but the Queen does not know the full diversity of life on this world. The Unity probe here seems like it got heads up on critters we might not run across yet. This could be important information for us.
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>>33094298
Yep
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>>33094298
This is a wise move too.
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Oh wait this is on after all? Oh man.
>>33090557
>It has been five days
Whoa, are our decision to build stuff retroactive then?

>>33090590
>Worker (75) – 150
>Warrior (25) – 100
Were those retroactive increases, or was that really how many we had?

20 of those workers are hazmat workers?
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>>33094343
I mean because it's so diverse and weird that's why they came here.
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>>33093985
Theseus takes the data and works on compiling it, and in moments he sends a string of experiments and testing procedures to you. You have your workers follow them carefully, placing the spore samples into the chemical mixtures and tanks that line the walls of your laboratory. The process takes most of the day, but soon the data comes in and you pass it back to Theseus for examination. Once more, it takes mere seconds for him to create a report.
The information is interesting. The spores appear to override the victim's nervous system, compelling them, one way or another, to flee the location and move as far as possible before the spores are released. They trigger the growth of tumors within the victim that act as a kind of egg that produces and protects the fungus, slowly growing until the subject bursts open to release them. The spores that are already in the subject attacks the body directly, causing uncontrollable hallucinations. Your worker that suffered from infection had been under the impression it was following your orders, while you suspect that the human Lee told of suffered visions that caused him to flee.

You use the data present in the report to quickly develop a cure for the spores and have it placed throughout the hive to be released in the case of infection. Future drones will be immune to the spores.

>New research options
Bioweapon research
Medium/very dangerous
The spores are deadly, and work to spread to new hosts. Making it into a weapon would require only time and effort to make it more durable to medical countermeasures.

Biochemical manipulation
Slow
The method the spores use to control its subject is interesting, and with a proper research effort could potentially be used in your favor.
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>>33093245
>Communication systems are offline, but operable.
Oh no.

He has a way to send everything he knows about us straight to the Union. Or possibly even to hack them to copy himself and escape, with knowledge about the hive.

The hive Unity at large is still entirely ignorant about.
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>>33094450
can we, have thesus help us go down this research chain?
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>>33094453
>send everything he knows about us straight to the Union
Why would he? The union hates unity, and he knows very little about us ave for our location and what we already gave him.
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>>33094453
I was wondering if anyone was going to point out that he now has available ship comms.
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>>33094408
Those are how many you already had.
You have yet to lay hazmat workers, but you have been able to take enough precautions that they have yet to be critically needed.
You guys went the extra mile to farm food. If you tried to farm the juicy bits inside the ocean stuff they would be way more important than they are now, but you waited to find a better source.
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>>33094453
Speaking of. We can remove the quantum-entangled FTLComm and take it to our laboratory to research it as a new research subject.

I don't think we identified it yet like we did the Angle's comm?

It's strictly inferior to hive psionic relays but understanding the enemy's inferior tech is worth something.
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>>33094450
Did you ever go through the archives to check the cost of Improved Infrastructure as a construction option for the list?

Could we ask Theseus what the best course of action would be for dealing with the monitor probe?
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>>33094500
Yes, but remember that if he already knows it then you will need to pay for it, and any research he boosts he also learns.
It's a joint research project, not a gift.

>>33094549
The Clarke's Quantum communications were destroyed in the crash, but the Angel's is still functional.
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>>33094509
Point is he has a means of escaping and/or spiting us if he feels like it.

Logically it has always made sense to allow him to die after we got all the use we could out of him. And not transmit all his data to Unity--because that gains you nothing and risks a great deal. "Relationship points" are not a thing, and igorance and stealth are very valuable.

But now he has a possibility of taking matters into his own hands. Along with all the power of a microscopic black hole gravity drive under his control.

It would be only logical to make an effort to escape himself, rather than to merely trust the aliens. Redundancies.
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>>33094618
>ask Theseus what the best course of action would be for dealing with the monitor probe
This too
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>>33094549
Actually, just in case it causes confusion, the communication array he is referring to is the damaged but functional sub-light communication array. It's just an EM transmitter that seems to fire a focused laser to send transmissions within the system.
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>>33094618
No, don't.

We just need to have him give our Thinker expertise in hacking and taking control of systems,so that they can take over the satellite and tamper with the sensor data.
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>>33094518
Why didn't you point it out yourself first?

All it takes for doompaul to triumph is for smart anons to say nothing.
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>>33094626
Why don't we just ASK him what he knows and what he would want from us if we are to do a trade.
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>>33094767
Maybe the QM writing out an exhaustive list of the names of every single technology the Unity can offer us would be a lot of work for him?
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>>33094683
Yeah, I also feel the same way. Use him up as much as we can and then have him have a stack overflow error and keep our information safe.

It would also allow us to trade information to Unity that we had already traded to Theseus, if we ever needed to, since he'd be dead and unable to give them what we're giving him.
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>>33094844
>It would also allow us to trade information to Unity that we had already traded to Theseus, if we ever needed to, since he'd be dead and unable to give them what we're giving him.

We are jewne-bugs!
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>>33094767
Because he's a smart cookie, and may not be willing to show all his poker chips. He is still technically stranded and at your mercy. You two may be on better terms, but his current situation isn't all that better then Coil's.

Also a lot of his tech knowledge was deleted when his computer system was damaged in his crash.
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>>33094844
The best part is, upon cyberdeath, Theseus would entrust the essential data of his entire being--or at least compressed to those components of Theseus memories and knowledge that are not known to the other Theseus yet -- and allow us to examine just how Unity AI bytecode works.

He'd delete and purge any knowledge he had before he met us, and anything else his brother-selves already know, and probably delete the executable routines as well, but it's something.

That he lacks FTLComm is a good relief. That he has control of radio transmissions that the monitor probe can overhear though, and the ability to make the gravity drive implode in a last desperate act, is still concerning.

>>33094767
Because you don't want to just tell him everything you've captured recently.
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>>33094907
Man, talk about trust issues.

We need to research honor or something.
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>>33094953
Trust is death.

Trust gets you a spy satellite watching over you forever.
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>>33094953
Our children are honorable. Things that are not our children or Lee are questionable or maybe food at best.

>>33094974
Also this.
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>>33094953
>>33094974
Trust gets you annexed.
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>>33094953
Just smart business practices really. He knows you know that he knows more than he says, and you know he knows you know more than you say.
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>>33094999
Trust gets you shadowrunners sent on a milk run to collect 'live samples.'
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>>33095028
>milk run
>live samples

Sounds like an easy mission.
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>>33094450
With the research done, and the Clarke repairs underway, Theseus goes back to his tasks of directing your workers and teaching the inner workings of the Clarke.

Meanwhile, your honored guest is ready for transport.
You have prepared a small vault to house him in, but you know Lyle is far stronger than a normal human. You don't fully trust even metal to restrain him in peak condition. The regeneration tank seems to be capable of manipulating his implants to some degree, however, or performing quick procedures.

>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
>Disable his implants
>Neither
>Other
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>>33094527
>You have yet to lay hazmat workers,
Nani?

We laid a bunch of workers with filter lungs some threads back, yes?
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>>33095104
>>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
"What about their legs? They don't need those."
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>>33095104
Both. No arms No implants.
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>>33095104
>>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
>>Disable his implants
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>>33095131
and legs, forgot to mention.
>>33095105
I don't think so. There was discussion of it but I don't think you finalized it.
I could be wrong though.
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>>33095104
>>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
No arms, no legs.
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>>33095104
>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
>Disable his implants
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>>33095104
>>Disable his implants
Cant remember, but are his arms completely cybernetic? If yes:
>>Remove his arms and send them to the hive
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>>33095104
I wonder how much damage Lyle can do just kicking and biting and headbutting.

Can we truly make him... 'armless?

>>33095169
>>32522452
>Ok, 20 new standard workers, and 20 haz-mat workers.
thread 9.
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>>33095169
Can we put his limbs back on afterwards?
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>>33095240
If we need him to have them we'll talk about it.
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>>33095195
They are not. They are organic with enhanced muscle tissue, nervous tissue, and reinforced bones. The skin and other such bits are his. The operation would be a simple procedure with the tank, however, as it appears to include a number of surgical instruments and is fully automated.
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>>33095104
>>Other
both, also is there a way to grow humans from this living one?
for some reason i want to go full monster girl route.
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>>33095240
We just resurrected him from being technically dead using medical bay.

So, maybe.

But we're not doing that, ever.
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>>33095265
Same. It's the ultimate form for the talker. Makes it less freaky for the humans.

We probably want a monster girl version for all alien species.
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>>33095300
Oh goddammit not this shit again.
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We take out his implants at the least. His arms are a maybe.

>>33095320
It's bait.
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>>33095300
No thanks.
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>>33095356
>>33095320
>it's not a good idea unless I agree with it!
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>>33095320
the original post about growing humans, i wasn't thinking about making monster girls actually, i was thinking of making human shaped drones, that could pass off some sensors.i'm from /d/, so my other idea was a bit weird
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>>33095236
welp, you have 20 haz-mat workers.
Due to me messing up with my charts and stuff, you will not have to pay for them. If I did charge you for them, you won't be charged upkeep until now, and if I didn't charge for them, then oh well, they are free.
Like I said in the pastebin, if I mess up, I'll err on the side that favors you guys.
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>>33095348
Even if it is, it's just as bad as sincerity.
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>>33095265
>>33095300
>>33095320
>>33095356
>>33095385
compromise: Don't suggest it unless you can back it up with drawings.
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>>33095410
Okay.
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>>33095104
>>Disable his implants
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>>33095401
Replicants are a good idea. Or maybe we create a kind of drone that is shaped like a brain, and create humanoid cyborg bodies for it to ride on. Kinda like those human suits in MIB.
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>>33095300
Yes we could also give lee his own personal monster girl talker without deadly acid

[this is half bait]
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>>33095104
>Disable his implants
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>>33095104
You quickly enter the commands into the tank to disable his implants, turning his body from a powerhouse into dead weight, and have his limbs quickly amputated before moving his body into the cell you have prepared.

You have a small chamber deep within the outpost ready for him, and quickly your workers cocoon his body to the wall. He should wake up soon, once the tank's medicine wears off.

>Speak to him (write in)
>Let him hang around a while
>Other
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>>33095502
>Let him hang around a while
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>>33095502
>>Let him hang around a while
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>>33095502
>>Let him hang around a while
Don't give him the satisfaction of being important.

We have LIMBS to science!
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>>33095502
>Speak to him (write in)

"Oh Lyle-chan your beauteous and irresistible accent is as the waves of radiation that lavishly spread from my domain, would you care to sample some of my bosom approved nutrient water? smooooch."
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>>33095560
purple anon, I thought I'd miss you.
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>>33095560
This.
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>>33095502
>Let him hang around a while
Interrogation 101
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>>33095502
>>Let him hang around a while
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>>33095502
Just to be clear.

his cell is far separated so he and the other prisoners can't possibly hear each other or know they're there?
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>>33095502
You leave him to wake up on his own. You figure you should give him time to cool down before trying to talk with him.
Your drones leave and the door seals shut with the flexing of the wall's muscles. Several hours pass until he begins to stir. He looks through the darkness in vain, his natural eyes incapable of making out any more than the faint glow of the pulsing nutrient pipes in the ceiling as they feed the walls. He struggles against the thick chitin of the wall, quickly tiring himself out without the help of his enhanced muscles.
"Well fuck..."

Next day
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>>33095737
Yes. The complex made at the Hel's Angel is a deep and twisting mess of halls and tunnels, and on the far end of it are the cells for Coil and the Taidarens. The twins are held together because they make a horrible screaming sound every time they are separated. Lyle's cell is at the very bottom, deep under ground.
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>>33095560
I like this. Lets do it.
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>>33095769
>. He struggles against the thick chitin of the wall, quickly tiring himself out without the help of his enhanced muscles.
Ha, he's just a torso and a head and he still thought he could break free.
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>>33095769
Resources: 805N 2033M

Worker: 75
Haz mat Worker: 20
Warrior: 25
Thinker: 24
Speaker: 1
Digger: 10
Refinery: 2
Sniffer: 2
Wasp: 18
Antenna: 3
Shock Troopers: 20
Colossi: 2
Excavator: 4

Armory
Thorn launchers: 26
Sting casters: 19
Fire sprays: 3

Current construction
Hangar Expansion: +20 Air drones, +10 shuttles 50N 100M
Labyrinth

New research options
>Bioweapon research
Medium/very dangerous
The spores are deadly, and work to spread to new hosts. Making it into a weapon would require only time and effort to make it more durable to medical countermeasures.

>Biochemical manipulation
Slow
The method the spores use to control its subject is interesting, and with a proper research effort could potentially be used in your favor.
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>>33096036
I suppose trading Ion Thrusters from Theseus in exchange for knowledge of the flying organic radar dish jets would be a fair trade? Propulsion for propulsion.

I'd just like to lay another 26 Thinkers to get a good number there. Then they can do like 5 research subjects at an acceptable pace.
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>>33096036
>>New research options
what about these?
>Grape shot
>Berry birds
>Oxygen recycle
>Unity computer
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>>33096036
>Biochem manipulation
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>>33096036
>Current construction
Do we have plenty of workers left over to start on doubling our farm output again?

We really should be increasing that constantly for hive growth.
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>>33096036
>Bioweapon research
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>>33096036
>Biochemical manipulation
Does this eventually lead to brain bugs?
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>>33096036
>Biochemical manipulation
>Bioweapon research
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>>33096068
Yeah. Don't just go for the latest shiny thing to drop onto our carapace.

We finish these first.
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>>33096068
You still have all those, but they are not "new" and I didn't want to type them all out again.
You are still researching Grape shot, Berry birds, Oxygen and the Unity computer.
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>>33096084
>>33096136
>>33096151
>>33096153
I'm not eve sure this post was a vote prompt, guys.
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>>33096151
>research
potentially a possibility
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>>33096036
Huh, we laid collosi and excavator, and expanding the hangar, but we don't actually have any air drones yet?

I know you want us to send off an airplane-drone to explore this planet and find all the interesting new locales to bait us with QD.
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>>33096172
I wasn't voting just asking a question
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>>33096036
I say reserch the Ion thrusters. We need to reach that satellite and reprogram it to give a false signal so the Union will stay way.
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>>33096036
The ground shakes, the hive trembles, and as your new children awaken the air flutters with their breath.
Your first large drones are ready and willing, although you notice your drones have little weaponry. You no longer have enough to go around, and you have no large weapons.

>Produce new weapons (what kind and how many)
>Wait for new research
>Other

>>33096210
Actually, the air drones are more for defense, since most of the problems you have had so far could have been reduced to a smoking hole with an airstrike.
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>>33096295
We just researched new types of ballistic weapons right?

Will those be added to http://pastebin.com/z4yZdEbK
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>>33096295
>Wait for new research
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>>33096323
look
>>33090682
They are ammunition, so they should be cheap.
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>>33096295
>Other
Can we change out their weapons later on, or is the weapons locked in permanently?
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>>33096323
Yes, in the mean time feel free to equipped ammo types to your drones. They will naturally have Armor piercing, and special ammo types will not replenish naturally, but can be quickly replenished outside of combat.
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>>33096184
Produce one Thorn Cannon and one Rotary Stinger.

Hey when doing the calculations for new drone design cost which way do you want use to round the cost?
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>>33096349
They are weapon grafts. They are plugged into the carapace and can be swapped out, or recovered from fallen drones.
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>>33096295
>Produce new weapons
One Thorn Cannon and Rotary Stinger.
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>>33096295
Is there an upgraded Flame Spray? Or does every tier we go up in have a different "special" weapon?
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>>33096365
I always round down if the total cost is odd.
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>>33096295
Scorching Suppression
>Plasma Spray to do melt and burn
>Rotary Singer to keep opponents pinned down long enough for fire to do its work

The other one should just have Thorn Cannons, as a pure artillery unit with a couple of bodyguards.
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>>33096295
...do we have large variants of Acid ammo too?

Would it have rate of fire and range like a Thorn Cannon, or a Rotary Stinger?
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>>33096412
Plasma Spray – A scaled up Fire Spray, this large nozzle releases a large amount of pressurized liquid fire. The Plasma spray does not use plasma in the scientific sense, but in the biological sense, with a highly viscous and caustic substance that is naturally produced within the drone. The liquid ignites upon leaving the drone and will continue to burn even without oxygen, sticking to anything and everything it touches and promptly burning it to ashes. Like the fire spray but to a greater extent, the plasma spray will ignite anything it touches and continue to burn long after the fight is over. Liberal use may cause more harm than good, and very well may be more dangerous to your drones than to the enemy. Damage done directly to the plasma storage may cause the drone to explode, sending liquid fire cascading in all directions. The Plasma spray can only be equipped to large sized drones, and due to its unwieldy nature must be placed just under the mandibles or just above the abdomen.
Dmg: Very High
RoF: Very High
Rng: Medium
Acc: Low
Special: Scorched Earth – The thick liquid fire of the Plasma Spray burns until there is nothing left to burn, not only denying the use of cover or terrain in the moment, but removing the terrain feature altogether. Turns the effected terrain into barren ash and removes all but the most durable of buildings.
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>>33096412
It burns more than the fire spray, and for longer. Think of the Fire spray as a flame thrower, and the Plasma spray as a high pressure fire hose loaded with napalm.

>>33096432
The cannon has too much recoil to mount two on the large drone.

>>33096463
You have large variants of all the ammo types. They do the same thing, but any AOEs have a larger effect radius.
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>>33096483
Thank you very much!
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>>33096483
>>33096483
>The Plasma spray can only be equipped to large sized drones, and due to its unwieldy nature must be placed just under the mandibles or just above the abdomen.
How would that even look on a fucke heug bug?
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>>33096483
If our species never researched large scale land-bound drones before what drone did they mount the Thorn Cannon on?
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>>33096542
Don't you get it?
>Fire Breath
>directly under mouth
It's a beetle-dragon
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>Produce new weapons (two thorn cannons, one rotary stinger, and one plasma spray)

Both collosi can equip one thorn cannon plus one secondary right? If so then this.
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>>33096549
No clue, but it is straight up murder.
Thorn Cannon – large, long range artillery cannon that fires a single high caliber projectile at long range, dealing massive amounts of damage to a single target and adjacent targets. Most effective as a long range support weapon, firing arcing salvos from long range, but can be used as a direct fire weapon. Any target hit directly will take tremendous amounts of damage as well as any adjacent target, however attempt to fire directly suffer a large accuracy penalty due to the difficulty in tracking targets with the massive weapon. This weapon can only be equipped to large size drones, and due to its unwieldy nature is placed along the top of the abdomen along the drone’s center of gravity.
Dmg: Very High
RoF: Very Low
Rng: Very Long
Acc: Meddium
Special: Arcing shot – With the use of a spotter, or by simple luck, the Thorn Cannon can fire onto an enemy position without ever laying eyes on it. In large numbers, a bombardment of artillery can remove entire enemy positions off the map in moments without them ever knowing what hit them.
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>>33096549
On whatever the fuck they wanted to.
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>>33096295
Ammo type essentially gives every drone with a ballistic weapon a choice of special attacks. You can equip it with a single alternate ammo type that can be replenished when not in combat. They will always be equipped with the standard Armor Piercing solid slugs, however as they are naturally regenerated by the drone.

All current weapon grafts are 15 metals, large weapons are x2 cost.

>Thorn launcher
>Sting caster
>Fire spray
Large variants
>Thorn cannon
>Rotary stinger
>Plasma spray

>>33096549
Bunkers
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>>33096591
Seconded.
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>>33096036
>New research options
>no "Lyle's limbs"
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>>33096591
Thirded
Also 10 more of the Flamesprays
10 more Launchers and 10 more Casters
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>>33096696
>Also 10 more of the Flamesprays
make that 2 more.
Flame sprays range is short, and it can back fire badly.
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>>33096696
>Also 10 more of the Flamesprays
No, we barely have a use for those, we have too many as it is. Not much need for area denial when you can just conquer the area.
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>>33096599
>2 Thorn cannons
>1 Rotary stinger
>1 Plasma spray
120M

1912M remaining.

You also have 25 Warriors with three equipped with fire sprays, leaving 4 and a single sting caster for your 20 shock troopers. Your 18 wasps all have a sting caster
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>>33096744
I don't know why people laid so many goddamn shock troopers instead of more warriors. They have the same offensive capabilities.

11 Thorn Launchers, 4 Sting Casters.
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>>33096777
Wait, I mean 15 Thorn Launchers and 4 Sting Casters.
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>>33096777
we had a stockpile of Nutrients and didn't know what to spend them on.
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So does anyone think we should make Miniature Sniffers and/or Smart bombs?

Also, an idea for Hive defense:
.Pitfall drones (I'd Miniature workers or Warriors); A group of Small drones burrow into the earth in funneling areas like door ways and such and wait for an intruder to pass over them. When this happens the pop out and grab onto their limbs and begin pulling them in opposite directions.
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>>33096825
sniffer maybe, but smart bombs start losing their value when they become less combat effective.
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>>33096594
10/10 explanation
Would write a philosophical essay on
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>>33096825
I think warriors provide adequate hive defense.
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>>33096855
I agree.

>>33096881
Thanks I spent a lot of time on it ;)
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>>33096744
15 Thorn launchers, 4 Sting casters
285M
1748M remaining

>>33096777
Honestly, the situation awareness does give some bonus, it's just not cost effective to make all the warriors that perceptive. Spreading the shock troopers among the warriors in a mass battle would give a decent bonus similar to if you had a bunch of sniffers along the front line. They also can fly, if poorly. It's more like falling with style.

>>33096825
small drones are at .25 the cost, and have a bonus to sneaking. The acid wouldn't be less effective, but there would be less of it.
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>>33096809
The cost of 16 shock troopers could have been used towards 44 Warriors instead. Or better yet, Exploding Warriors. Much more efficient and impressive, and gives a use for our surplus Metal income to arm them all.

Nutrients are downright scarce in comparison, and it's so easy to hit the ceiling of our farm output.

Unrelated: I hope we produced 2 additional Union-Unity interface devices, and did we find out if it was compatible with the Hel's Angle?

And I figure we should make interface devices/drones have the self-destruct quality. In case we wanted to plant one in a certain spy satellite to keep it fed with false data editing out our orbital presence.
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>>33097061
I'm assuming the interface drone would be a sniffer variant?
>>33097036
Let's ask Theseus about second contact.
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>>33096777
I think the reason we laid so many shock troops was in a bit of a panic reaction to Mr. Badass curb stomping our remaining troops. However, at least the shock troops can still be used for guarding and if need be, hibernate them for later use.
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>>33097112
I just meant drone as a synonym for device. Since they're kinda one and the same, really.
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>>33097113
Yeah this is why we made so many.
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>>33097113
Like I said, they have the exact same offensive capability, it's silly to have a 4:5 supersensor shock trooper to warrior ratio. more like 1:20 for senses bonus.
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>>33097036
Your drones let out a bellowing roar as they move out of the hive to patrol the area. The jungle shakes with their stride, sending small creatures flying and running away in terror.

You wonder if you should discuss the potential of Unity relations. After all you assume he still desires to return home.
>Speak (write in)
>You have more important work to do (write in)
>Other

>>33097061
It is compatible with all human tech you have seen, including the Hel's Angel, despite the Ceph modifications.
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>>33097213
We'll not lay anymore then. Okay?
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>>33097213
The QM said that they had better combat capabilities then warriors and that they added a bonus to normal warriors when grouped together.
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>>33097239
Talk
What is the procedure for when a detachment such as yours is grounded?
What can The Hive do to help?
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>>33097295
Physically, they have the same combat abilities sans the wings, but their increased senses let them use those combat capabilities to a greater extent, and they can lend those bonuses to nearby drones due to your hive network. It's like your warriors are a hammer, and the shock troopers are a fulcrum.
The wings also let them perform surprise attacks by body-slamming from above.
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>>33097239
>>You have more important work to do (write in)
I want to know the Hel's Angle's itinerary.

With the password removed it should all be there right?
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>>33097419
Huh, speaking of which is there a way to upgrade the wasp?
It feel like they fall too easily for what they are worth.
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>>33097239
>>You have more important work to do (write in)
Build 10 farms, lay more Thinkers, research Ceph tech? That cloaking is good shit.
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>>33097239
>>33097520
lay 25 more workers and 26 more thinkers.
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>>33097239
Would really rather keep things strictly business with Theseus. Research for research.

He's teaching our Thinkers about how human computer systems work right? So we can know how to disconnect him from comms array or the g-drive if necessary
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>>33097239
Research Biochemical manipulation.
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>>33097239
With your mind you quickly reach out to a worker and sent it to a terminal. Indeed, when Coil cracked it open for you in his rather cowardly display, he had given you total control over the ship's systems...most of it at least. A small corner of the network is still sealed, under lock and key from Lyle. It requests a password and voice recognition.
You look through the rest, looking for any details that may yield useful information as to who sent them, and from where.
Several entries appear to have been deleted. They are transmissions from the FTL communicator, which appears to hold three "strings". The first is labeled simple "Broker", the second "Constantinople", the last "Deep Song".
Interesting.

At the same time, you send a quick query to Theseus.
"What is the standard procedure for when your kind become stranded?"
There is a pause. The instructions streaming to your workers halt for a moment. "We return."
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>>33097651
Ask, him if his kind would trade his release for tech or, no samples to be taken.
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I wonder.

Would it be possible to make fast flying 'crop duster' that spew fire instead of chemicals?
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>>33097676
"Samples"? Could you elaborate?
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>>33097676
No, don't. That's a really awkward thing to ask. "Hey if we hold you hostage..."

Besides, Unity doesn't know if he's been stranded, do they? He should have been destroyed in the battle.
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>>33097676
I was under the impression that we already agreed to freely give a sample because the terms seemed fair
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>>33097691
anon is referring to how Unity is interested in biological samples of one of each genus of our kind.

a free exchange of information, etc.
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>>33097691
Would they be hostile in trying to recoieve you.
>>33097696
He knows he is basically a hostage, and we are trying to see if we can milk it.
>>33097719
It was up in the air, but that was the peaceful choice.
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>>33097719
That didn't happen. Though it is a fair quid pro quo, for sure.

Anyway if Unity shows up the Union cavalry will detect it via the satellite, probably, if it comes back online by then.
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>>33097746
He can just tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear to ensure his return. You'll have no way to detecting if he's lying.
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>>33097773
>You'll have no way to detecting if he's lying.
In the last session we found out, we can detect it a little, but he can do the same towards us.
Unless the QM meant it as something else.
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>>>33097651
"Would they be hostile if they would return?" Your question is simple, but sincere.
"Would you be hostile if I were to leave?" The question is equally fair, although he seems to intend it as an answer.

>>33097720
Right, wasn't sure if you were talking about Theseus or Lyle, since both have an interest in drone samples.
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>>33097811

Dammit. Fine. If we're gonna converse.

"What are the odds they think you survived the battle and were stranded, not destroyed?"

"How soon would they return, knowing the Union was here?"
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>>33097806
You are speaking mind-to-mind, so you have a much greater range of understanding than if you were trying to speak to someone verbally. If I wanted to make all the conversations literal I would describe images and emotions, but that's far too obtuse. Your "native language" as it were, is essentially just thoughts without words.
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>>33097846
>"How soon would they return, knowing the Union was here?"
More like
"Would they ever return, knowing the Union was here?"
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What is it do we really want from Unity though?
Unity Tech?
Protection from Union Aggression?
To be simply left to our own devices?
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>>33097894
Tech is useful. They're a potential knowledge trading partner.

This instance of Theseus is expendable though, allowing double dipping in the knowledge market.
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>>33097894
>To be simply left to our own devices?
Mostly this.
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>>33097894
The last is impossible, they're another faction in the RTS that is our life.

Ideally, Unity would not even know we exist. We delay their discovery of us however long we can.

Only once it's inevitable, then we can use them to climb our tech trees.
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>>33097811
"Do you think they will return to look for you?" You ask. It seems to clear the tension.
"No, but I know where they would be." He stops just short of giving you the location, but you get the feeling the system would not be that far.
He resumes feeding the information to your workers. "I am only a small part. A fragment of what is far greater than I am capable of knowing. Understand that I am only as valuable as the data I hold. So long as a single fragment remains, Theseus lives, and death is impossible." He returns to his work, filtering through damaged code and self-destructed software as your workers attach more and more to the network.
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>>33097968
Great.

Let's do research trades then?

Whatever local fauna that would be worth the Unity drone weapon. Flyers? Herd Beetles?
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A bit off-topic at the moment, but I have a theory regarding Ceph intelligence and social structure.

The fact that Ceph were a technological species before encountering humans is interesting when confronted with Coil's apparent decentralized nervous system and his reduced mental capacities when without his shell that compensates for that. I think that while individual Ceph aren't that impressive, when there are large groups of them, they instinctually act as a collective intelligence, like a single large 'brain', capable of impressive feats of invention and engineering.

We've heard that their command structure is highly adaptive and impermanent, and I think that supports my theory above. It also makes sense that they would treat Ceph incapable of visual communication as invalids that are killed off; those Ceph can't engage in the communal thought process, they're like 'dead' brain cells, or worse ones that are stuck emitting a single signal, and probably disrupt the efficiency of the whole.
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>>33097968
"Ever hear of a damn air conditioner?" The shout comes from within your prison. Lyle is getting restless. You increase the temperature a few degrees and continue on your way.

>Speak with Lyle
>Speak with Coil
>Speak with Huey and Dewy
>Trade research with Theseus
>Other
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>>33098024
>Trade research with Theseus
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>>33098024
>Speak with Huey and Dewy
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>>33098024
>>Trade research with Theseus
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>>33098024
>>Trade research with Theseus
>Speak with Coil
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>>33098024
Hey, how feasible would be using Shuttles to redirect an asteroid to a collision path with the monitoring beacon?

Union response is difficult to predict, but it should present a deniable way of destroying it. Could provide a vital period of blindness within which to engage in critical operations.
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>>33098057
>>33098065
>>33098040
What can we trade?
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>>33098073
We've got information on the electricity-sensing predator, the jet-fliers, and the big beetles.
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>>33098024
So the optimal trade with Theseus is to help research dangerous subjects that he already knows.
>>33098073

Namely,
>Gravetic Materials
>Cyclotron particle beams
>Lightning gun

On our side, we have
>Herd Beetle
>Flyer
>blind apex predator
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>>33098073
Whatever we researched from the local fauna, which AFAIR, is just the Ram jet, the Beetle armor and whatever made the small drones.
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>>33098024
>Speak with Lyle
Come on, I want to hear from him now.
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>>33098099
There's also the bird-berries and the grape shot.

We could do another "local ecology sweep" for new species to tempt Theseus with.
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>>33098121
No way, this is perfect. Let him stew till he's ripe. Besides he's a liar liar pants on fire for anything except contractual missions and we ain't giving him one of those.

Besides
> You increase the temperature a few degrees and continue on your way.
The Queen is so cheeky, I love it.
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>>33098091
>>33098073
The moss were farming, The fungus that produces nutrient rich water, The one creature that has no central nervous system or eyes, and samples form each strand of drones we have.
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>>33098099
Don't forget the berry birds and exploding fruit.
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>>33098024
>Trade tech
What would you like to trade?
If you trade for dangerous or potentially destructive tech, it will remove the risk of failure as you are paying for it instead of researching it. Not all tech is of equal value, however, and he will not likely give something as precious as FTL tech for a local life sample. Likewise, something incredibly valuable to you would have great buying power, such as Tachyon research, which he would drool over, if he could.

>>33098071
It would be easy to do, but it would take a long, long, long time to hit the satellite, and give the satellite ample time to move out of the way. Your planet has no rings, and so you would need to get the asteroid from elsewhere in the system.

It's a good plan, and if you had rings I'd say it's good to go, but as it is it would probably look suspicious and would take much longer than is feasible.
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>>33098166
I'm unwilling to trade data on us or our drones.
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>>33098185
What about multiple local life samples?
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>>33098199
I bet we could get a weapon out of it.

Of course, then he'd know we've got that weapon....
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>>33098199
local life? Probably not. A collection of drone designs? That may be worth Gravetics.
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>>33098231
Ok, for cyclotronic then.
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>>33098185
I'd say trade the herd beetle data for the Lighting gun tech, that thing has been temping us for ages now.
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>>33098242
Fuck that idea.
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>>33098195
Why are we adamant on not sharing drone data? Even if they manage to clone a drone, they probably won't have the psychic connection with the queen and therefore be easily detected.
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>>33098254
I was just asking how many local life samples would it take to buy cyclotronic.

There aren't many affordable yet risky research subjects, it's just the two weapons really.
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>>33098195
I don't care what your willing to do. I was just telling him the stuff that might have trade value.
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>>33098268
Oh i thought you were talking about giving him our designs for drones.
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>>33098259
The risk isn't in them copying our capabilities, it is in SUBVERTING them. The same way that our dissections have given us flat combat bonuses against each subject studied and opened up further research in potential ways to undermine them.

I'd rather not give a potential foe information that increases their effectiveness against us.
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>>33098259
I rather not make it easy for the robots to fuck us over.
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>>33098277
If I thought it was a sure thing that Theseus would outlive his usefulness and we could just delete him, sharing would make sense.

Kinda wish people hadn't stuck him in the ship, it'd be harder to actively kill him now, let alone get people to vote for it.
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>>33098185
You know as a fact that Theseus is interested in both your drone biology, and the local life. Likewise, letting him look at the Ceph Void Shard recovered from the Hel's Angel would go a very, very long way. You briefly wonder how much buying power your Tachyon knowledge would get, and while you suspect is is substantial, you decide best not to reveal it, however it is always possible that such knowledge may be revealed if you were to start giving away drone designs, as it is something that comes naturally to you.

>Trade Algae knowledge
>Boost Void Crystal research (Due to the value of this tech, he will give you tech just to help you research it.)
>Trade drone designs for tech (which drones)
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>>33098318
Yo, >>>/pol/ is that away.
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>>33098351
>Trade Algae knowledge
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>>33098351
We can't trade herd beetle, flyer, or apex predator knowledge?
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>>33098351
>>Trade Algae knowledge
>>Boost Void Crystal research (Due to the value of this tech, he will give you tech just to help you research it.)
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>>33098369
local fuana don't count.
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>>33098313
>>33098318
Or we could go HARD QUEEN MAKES HARD CHOICES and trade the info, then disable the comms array on the ship then delete Theseus. Thats far from my preferred choice of diplomacy but putting the possibility out.
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>>33098358
>people aren't allowed to have opinions I disagree with

>>>/reddit/
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>>33098369
They totally slipped my mind, actually, since the anon above was talking about trading Algae.
Yes, they would all be interesting to Theseus, and hold value in trade.
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>>33098351
>Boost Void Crystal research (Due to the value of this tech, he will give you tech just to help you research it.)
>Trade Algae knowledge
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>>33098385
>politics doesn't go on the /pol/itical containment board
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>>33098380
I'm not opposed to the idea in principle, but I don't trust the consensus to make the hard choices necessary for trading sensitive tech to not fuck us over.
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>>33098390
Then let's trade them too.
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>>33098390
Well I'd rather trade those and save our prize crop for last when we run out of other fauna.

And for the love of fuck do not let him know we have void shards people.
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>>33098404
>implying people can't say what they like regardless of board

Go be a rules faggot somewhere else.
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>>33098418
I strongly concur with this.
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>>33098418
Why not? There is very little reason not to considering that it will remove the danger of researching it if he helps.
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>>33098424
Yes, hence all the homestuck, mlp, and ERP generals here. Obviously.
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>>33098351
>Trade local samples
Added together they may be worth enough to trade for high-end weapon technology, or some of the advanced armor systems.
What tech do you wish to purchase?

>>33098418
The Void Shard is a strange object indeed. It is a small crystal of complete blackness. It holds no reflection at all, emits no radiation or signal of any kind, and while no sensor or equipment can measure it, your drones detect it move slightly whenever they catch it in their peripheral vision. There are 4 of them in all, and you get the impression that Theseus does not even know that they are a part of the Slip Drive.
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>>33098485
I say said, not post images of.
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>>33098418
I agree.
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>>33098380
I agree mostly, but all it take for him to succeed is for one transmission to make it through, it doesn't help that he has access to something that can kill the both of us.
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>>33098390
Adding trading them to my post:
>>33098374
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>>33098477
Play your cards close to your vest for once.

We haven't even revealed that we captured the Hel's Angle and Lyle.

Cloaking tech is a huge advantage, and honestly it looks less dangerous than Gravetonics.
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>>33098477
It actually wont remove the danger. The danger is only removed for tech Unity already has, which this isn't.
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>>33098505
The slip drive isn't a cloaking device.
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>>33098544
It includes it, doesn't it?
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>>33098557
You have no idea, actually. The engines only held conventional thrusters, and the four crystals.

What tech do you wish to trade for?
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>>33098486
>Regeneration Tank
This, we want this.
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>>33098486
>What tech do you wish to purchase?
Cyclotronic.
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>>33098583
That's not a risky tech. That's a huge waste.

>>33098580
Cyclotronic.
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>>33098486
>high-end weapon technology
The cyclotronics would be able?
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>>33098601
Yup.
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>>33098557
There are better methods of cloaking then using extremely dangerous crystal.
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>>33098617
Like fucking what?

No other known species even has this stealth technology. It's coveted.
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>>33097965
Space is fucking huge.
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>>33098648
Not with FTL it isn't. Have you seen the starmap?
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>>33098623
Cloaking tech exists in modern times genius.
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>>33098617
We don't know that for sure. We also don't know that the crystal IS dangerous, only that it MAY be. Which means that for all intents and purposes, it is, but still.
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>>33098661
Then explain why the Ceph tech is coveted.

Fucking magic sci-fi cloaking is radically different from practical modern day attempts.
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>>33098686
The slip drive is FTL not cloaking.
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>>33098686
it's their FTL tech that is coveted, because FTL tech is super fucking important and nobody but the Ceph know how it works.

The stealth may or may not be related.
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>>33098698
different anon
Nobody but the Ceph know how -that- FTL tech works. The other factions all have their own things
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>>33098698
>>33098696
Good thing, our shit is better.
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>>33098654
Is the entirety of the universe contained in that starmap?
Is it the local super cluster?
Is it the local cluster?
The local galaxy?
Space is fucking big.
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>>33098696
And yet we never found another tech in the ship that could be responsible for their cloaking field.

Just a Ceph Slip Drive, in a mostly human design ship. The Ceph, who by coincidence are said to have "advanced stealth technology".
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>>33098580
>Cyclotron Particle Beams

You send the request to Theseus, and he seems most pleased with the collection of data."These are quite interesting indeed. Yes, I will grant you the information you seek."
He quickly sends you a packet of data, translated into thought by your interface, and in moments you feel total understanding over the Cyclotron.

>Research finished: Cyclotron Particle Beam
>New research option: Linear Particle Beam


Something has been bothering you, though. While the Crystals caught your eye you couldn't help but wonder not only how they work, but why not even the Unity knows about them.

>Speak with Coil about this
>Other

>>33098718
You don't know that for sure. Your FTL must be charged prior to jump, leaving your ships vulnerable to attack.

>>33098736
Actually, that map has a small portion of Union and Commonwealth territory displayed, and Ceph and Valen worlds are not listed, or not present.
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>>33098736
Our game map is fucking small. We can't just vaunt off into random ass parts of the galaxy to run away from factions.

Especially considering there may be a looming threat out there that happened to our civilization.
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>>33098755
>donjon.bin.sh
A gift for you OP.
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>>33098755
>>Speak with Coil about this
Ah yes, I was planning on this.

How many of the species did we offer him?
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>>33098755
So the argument that "this town ain't big enough for the two of us" is invalid
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>>33098755
>Speak with Coil about this
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>>33098792
Not if the whole galaxy is as teeming with sapient civilizations as this sector.

Then it's very valid.

Also, you're implying we'll just pack up queenie and abandon ship and run away just because it's crowded?

That ain't the RTS spirit.
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>>33098792
Semi-correct.
Worlds that are naturally nice to live on are still rare, and the cost to make crap worlds good is sometimes greater than the cost of taking somebody else's. Due to different opinions on what makes a world nice to live on, this problem usually only happens between rival governments of the same race.
Such as throughout your own history, and obviously, in human history.
The humans seem to think your planet's biosphere is terrible, so they would not be jumping at the chance to take it over to live on it. You are far less picky, however.
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Remember those other planets that we passed up on as our home base? Who here interested in the metal-rich desert world as our next route of expansion should nothing else present itself?

Also, developing some sort of planetside portal system would be neat.
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>>33098840
Looks like the hive has the advantage here over the other races.

They gotta change the whole planet or at least wide areas of self-contained biodome things.

We just edit a few lines in the drone dna and good to go for the most part.
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>>33098755
Speaking of the Ceph, mind looking over:
>>33098021
for any major slip-ups in what we actually know?
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>>33098843
That has been a prime candidate for a while now yeah.

It would be neat to have a djinn in a bottle who grants us wishes, too, but. FTL ain't that cheap.
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>>33098755
>>Speak with Coil about this
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>>33098875
Long term goals, anon. I was thinking that something like that might be able to be cobbled together if we somehow manage to eventually acquire FTL tech from the other civilizations and maybe also fish a macguffin out of a wormhole.
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>>33098843
I believe we found that a human vessel headed off to that system when we looked through the black box logs. But they were weird and gave up colonization rights for a religious charter or something?
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>>33098021
If this is true then we have a lot to gain by integrating into the hive.
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>>33098905
>human vessel
Valen.
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>>33098912
*them
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>>33098769
>>33098818
I don't suggest we run away or anything like that.
I just wanted to point out that being left alone by Theseus and Co. is totally viable.
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>>33098912
better for the thinkers.
We need a few upgrades for them
I have seen two suggested.
One is a super thinker another is allowing them to connect themselves.
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>>33098961
How does that follow.

You're implying they'll just leave and ignore the sector of our expanding domain?

When space could in fact be very crowded, this being sci-fi. I mean we haven't even seen all of the Union territory yet.
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>>33098985
Thinkers are the one thing that doesn't need upgrades or complications of any kind. You just lay more of them to get the same effect.
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>>33099001
Nah, the QM admitted that they need upgrades eventually.
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>>33098989
Look I don't think either of us is going to convince the other in this situation.

Why don't we just ask Theseus if The Giant Robot Collective would leave us alone if we returned him?
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>>33098755
You send your speaker to Coil's cell, a small box of tightly woven chitin held within a solid box. As you enter and the door flexes out of the way, you note he is glowing ever so slightly. He flashes with surprise as you enter, his three, highly developed eyes are more than capable of seeing through the darkness.
"You are the pilot, yes?" Your drone chirps.
"Yes." The language is still too strange to decipher, and the voice comes from a small speaker situated at the top of his shell. Perhaps later he could help in decoding his language, but for now the speaker serves your needs all the same.
"Then you know how the drive works."
"No!" He is quick to say. "Twins are mechanics!"
You pass your attention over the small eyes set into the walls of the Taidarens. They chirp at each other constantly, and are currently in the process of berating each other, blaming one another for their situation. Somehow you doubt that FTL engineering is within their capabilities.
"It is Ceph design, yes?"
"Yes." his skin builds a number of bumps, becoming thick and dense like a stone. After a moment it has the same texture as the chitinous walls and as he slumps his boneless form lower only his shell would give him away as any more than a lump in the floor.
"Then you know what the crystals do."
He shakes, almost violently, and flashes a number of colors. The translator starts having trouble. "No! They must not be harmed!"
"They are not damaged. How do they work?"
"They work because they wish to! Because They allow it!"

You seem to have hit a nerve...
What do you wish to ask?
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>>33099057
if you don't want these to be harmed, can you tell us what they are exactly.
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>>33099057
Can you help us understand the crystals and where do they come from?
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>>33099057
"How do you know this?"

"Who are They?"
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>>33099057
"The Hive wishes to understand what they are, and will use any means necessary. If you do not wish them to be harmed, you will tell us their secrets."
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>>33099077
Oh, right.

"They will not be harmed if you explain everything."

This is getting... vaguely Lovecraftian.
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>>33098871
There is nothing wrong with the facts at the base of this, but I will say nothing one way or the other as to your conclusion.
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>>33099057
"Do they need to be cared for in any special way?"
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>>33099057
Can you communicate to the crystals?

Ask them nicely?
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I'm looking forward to someday having the Thinkers research Coil's shellmet and creating our own biological version to stick on his head and mindtalk to him.
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>>33099057
"And this 'They' would be...? The crystals? They are sentient?"
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>>33099149
Toying with the idea of possibly studying it to subvert/read his thoughts. I mean, it centralizes his nervous system. Risk of breaking it is too high though, sadly.
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Okay I need to go to sleep.
Goodnight everyone!
Thanks QuestDrone for running!
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>>33099057
"What are 'They'?"
The translator breaks down, totally giving up on the response. Coil, through great apparent effort, hoists himself as upright as he can and erupts in a display of brilliant and intricate patterns far in excess of what you thought him capable.
You try to run it through the dictionary in the ship's archives, but there doesn't seem to be a proper translation. Nearly a dozen words pop up as "synonyms" including Builder, Operator, Fixer, Watcher. One seems out of place, however.
"First"

Coil finishes his dazzling display, an astounding effort for a single word, but clearly it holds importance to him.
"The shards are theirs. Gifts to be used with permission. To do otherwise is to intrude!"
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>>33099169
Scarier prospect: They are something distant and alien whose dark will is manifest through the crystals.
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>>33099223
Bad Vibes man.
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>>33099223
"How do you receive the gifts?"

"How do you...ask them to function?"
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>>33099223
Goddam Gods inhabiting my Space Crystals
Or
Goddam Sentient Space Crystals
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>>33099223
...Maybe we should avoid the subject for now.
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>>33099223
Shit.

Not sure if this confirms or denies that precursors uplifted the Ceph with their tech.
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>>33099223
"How do you get them to work? And how might the Hive safely observe the shards?"
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This development fills me with glee for one day we shall drag a space squid god from its home and throw it to our thinkers!
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>>33099223
"How do you ask for permission?"
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>>33099223
"How do you seek permission? How do you accept the gifts?"

Coil seems to calm down, slightly. He still seems disturbed of something, more so than his normal whimpering self. He appears afraid, and not of you.

"You do nothing. Those within their plan are made to serve it."
"But do you know how... ask the crystal to function?"
Coil pauses, his skin turning its natural pale white. "Yes" He finally says.
"Can you teach this?"
"....yes"
"Then you will explain how."
His skin flashes a number of colors to signal protest, but eventually, under the blank stare of your speaker, he grows calm again. "....yes..."

Now how will you have him share this knowledge?

>Repair the engines and attach them to a shuttle under his supervision
>Repair the Angel under his supervision
>Other
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>>33099368
I kind of don't want to anymore.
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>>33099368
Let him suggest how. Shit sounds dangerous and above our pay.
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>>33099368
Oh. Hmm. Tough one.

I... guess...?
>Repair the engines and attach them to a shuttle under his supervision
They're already on our planet. We can't destroy them, we can't get rid of them. We might as well find out.
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>>33099368
>Repair the engines and attach them to a shuttle under his supervision

Make sure he isn't in any way able to interface with them directly if we choose this. Don't want to give him too much of a chance to skip town.
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>>33099368
We can't have our thinkers just toy with the crystals?
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>>33099368
I'd rather keep things... theoretical for the moment. Basically table the issue for now.
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>>33099469
what's the worst that could happen.jpg
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>>33099471
Seconded
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>>33099471
So you're asking for

>Other
Ask him to direct a fake engine with model crystals instead. So we know all the steps ahead of time at least.
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>>33099368
This:
>>33099416

We need to make it clear we want to learn about this method of FTL. But if it's impossible for us to make more crystals, then we have little point in trying to replicate it.
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>>33099469
"Queen! I Have discovered THING for you!"
"It's a psionic link to one who is old and promises much, I connect it for you Queen!
C̀͜T̵̶͡H̶́͜U̸͝L̨̕Ḩ̴͟͝U͢҉ ̢̛F̵̢H̨̛͘͞͠T̷͠A҉̵̨͜͡G̶̢Ń̢͠!̷͡͏
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>Lyle is a cyborg bounty hunter crusing through the galaxy with a cutist pilot and a custom ship engine powered by a dark god's will
He is so metal.
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>>33099500
No table the issue.
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We should just figure out a way to detect this drive entering our space later.
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>>33099554
Its very nature defies detection. The crystals are an utter absence of sensory data, like an absolute void. And these things cloak.
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>>33099531
CARRRRRRLLLLLOOOOOOSSSSS
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>>33099368
Wait.

"Is Lyle part of Their plan?"

Odd, to have these on a human ship.
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>>33099531
Yep.
And it kind of makes me want to have him on our side.
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>>33099368
You feel you could assemble them onto one of your shuttles to test it, although you can't help but have your reservations. Normally, you could assume superstition, but judging by your attempts to interact with the crystals, you feel like you should be careful.
"What will you need to make it work?"
You were expecting technical data, but the way he speaks of the crystals seems far more vague, but eventually he assembles the schematic for a device to interface with the crystals.

They seem simple enough, in fact it is almost as simple as plugging it into a battery. The more complex part is how Coil explains the process of plotting the course.
The translation seems to think "pray" is the most accurate term. "Shape the Waters, and find the right current. Entering is easy, but finding your exit is art, not science." He says, his tentacles waving with pride of his wisdom.
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>>33099589
What on earth is that from...
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>>33099593
Really, cuz it makes me think he's the enemy of everything good in the universe, and can never be on our side.
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>>33099611
I think it's Tigtone
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>>33099607
Psionic based warp drives.

Alright then Coil, you get to live and sputter around for another day.
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>>33099593
He might work for us, but until we have brainbugs he'll never be "on our side."
Mercenaries are on their own side.
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>>33099607
>Use the schematics to make an interface to test. A minute amount of energy just to see how it functions.
>Use the schematics to make an interface and place the Slip Drive onto a shuttle to test.
>Other
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>>33099657
>Use the schematics to make an interface to test. A minute amount of energy just to see how it functions.
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>>33099618
Good and Evil are human concepts.
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>>33099657
>Use the schematics to make an interface and place the Slip Drive onto a shuttle to test.
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>>33099657
Grab some spare thinkers and drones and get them to pray or a reasonable facsimile thereof for a day then
>Use the schematics to make an interface to test. A minute amount of energy just to see how it functions.
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>>33099657
>>Use the schematics to make an interface and place the Slip Drive onto a shuttle to test.
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>>33099657
>Use the schematics to make an interface to test. A minute amount of energy just to see how it functions.
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>>33099657
Can we ask Coil exactly how he would pray?
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>>33099668
Point.

More like he seems possibly subject to the machinations of an alien intelligence we've yet to understand or know the motives of. That's in addition to being a dangerous wildcard as easily used by our enemies as by us.
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>>33099707
>inb4 twoscores blood sacrifices
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>>33099657
>Assemble the interface to test.

Your workers start assembling what is needed, and you quickly produce the required device from the scrap of the Angel's engines. The device itself is painfully simple, and as you mount the crystal it... shifts onto the mounting. The power conduits phasing into the solid crystal itself.
"How do you perform this art?" You ask.
"You must feel the current. It is everywhere. The voice of creation!"
He isn't being very helpful, but you don't intend on going anywhere, just powering it up to try and gleam some understanding.

>Activate the test
>Have Coil oversee the test
>Shelve the prototype for now
>Other
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>>33099736
>he has to sacrifice one of his tentacles
Man we gotta get him to 'donate' one of those to dissect. They grow back.

..wait a few of them fell off during the wasp stabbity battle all those days ago.
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>>33099765
>Have Coil oversee the test
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>>33099765
>Activate the test
Let's see em I guess.
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>>33099765
>Have Coil oversee the test
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>>33099765
I wonder if we would be better capable of this if we dissected a Ceph...
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>>33099765
>mfw we need to research Religion to make this work
>mfw this is a religiously-powered FTL
Where we're going, we won't need stars to see!
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>>33099765
>Activate the test
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>Have Coil oversee the test
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>>33099798
Probably not.

If we had a mindlink to Coil though. We might get more insight to the internal prayer process.
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>>33099765
Shut up and listen.
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>>33099765
>Activate the test
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>>33099765
inb4 They take notice of this planet and the unusual usage here
inb4 They destroy all 4 crystals
inb4 They kill Coil through his brain
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>>33099765
So...he's helping us get in tune with the Dark Side of the Force?
>>Have Coil oversee the test
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>>33099765
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>>33099765
>Have Coil oversee the test

"You will share this knowledge then."
Several warriors enter the room and lift the soft lump of Coil's body, much to his distress. He twists and turns to try and see his destination over the warriors' shoulders as they navigate the tunnels of your hive and eventually make it to the small chamber where you have placed the prototype.
He sees the crystal and nearly leaps from your drones' hold.
"Explain clearly. How is this done?"

He fidgets in his new location, the two eyes facing the prototype locked to the crystal, while the eye on his far side glances in all directions in a panic. "You must be chosen! If you can feel the Current it will let you shape it! There is no other way!"
"Can you?"
"Yes!"
"Then provide an example."

You feed power into the device, and the crystal...
sings.

Roll 1 d100, best of 3
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Rolled 11

>>33099936
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Rolled 65

>>33099936
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Rolled 5

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Rolled 93

>>33099936
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>>33099971
you just couldn't go fast enough...
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>>33099967
Damn, this one counted, didn't it?

Damn damn damn.
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>>33099936
Do only linked rolls count?
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>>33099979
I went as fast as I could.
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inb4 the ceph drive plugs into the warp
inb4 the test attracts the attention of deamons.
inb4 bad end
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>>33100050
inb4 we give a deamon to our thinkers
inb4 deamon boogs
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2spooky4me
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>>33099936
You feel...strange. Your drones' minds flicker in and out, as if being interfered, like static.
The crystal quickly expands outward, unfolding into strange, twisted shapes. You see branching shards swivel in and out of the growing stem, looping in on itself and forming sharp edges of nothingness. The shard continues to grow, plowing through the walls an into the jungle above, your patrolling wasps see it reach into the sky almost a kilometer before subsiding to a strange waving motion as it twitches back and forth, reshaping itself continuously.

For a moment, you can see lights within, like a distant star field that changes every moment. It is emanating a signal, but not any radiation, you sense the ebb and flow of tachyons flowing in swirling patterns around the crystal!

Coil is crawling towards the device, his shell emanating a rapid pulse of tachyons in a pitifully weak manner as his skin strobes with color in time with the crystals pulsing.

>Kill the power
>Lower the power
>Let Coil interact with it
>Attempt to interact with it
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Rolled 38

>>33100102
>Attempt to interact with it
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>>33100102
RUH ROH
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>>33100102
>>Kill the power

Jesus what have we done?
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>>33100102
>Attempt to interact with it
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>>33100102
>Attempt to interact with it
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>Attempt to interact with it
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>>33100102
>>Kill the power
Frightening.

But I'm cool with interaction winning. No letting Coil do it, I think.
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>>33100102
>Attempt to interact with it
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>>33100169
Alright Coil

SHOW ME YOUR GODS
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>>33100169
>captcha
THEY KNOW
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>>33100201
Okay now you're just showing us up on purpose.
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>>33100215
I know I am.
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>>33100169
You reach out with your mind, like you would a drone, and... it twists, but not in any direction. You are unsure how you know, but you can feel it twist through space into somewhere.... else.
You can see it, feel it even. An endless void, filled with strange motes of light. Not quite stars, not matter even, but twisted nodules of reality. They feel right to you, as if they should be this way, and you recognize them as doorways. You reach out to one and peer in to see a number of humans standing in a line, music plays as a man in a white coat pins a small piece of metal to another human's chest. It is Lee, you realize. The rest of the crew stand at attention, in line to receive similar medals.

You move to another. This time you see a strange object, a large cylinder floating through space above a large gas giant. Bolts of lightning arc from the hull to the atmosphere and back as a funnel of gas pours into the five kilometer wide gaping maw at the front of the cylinder's hull.

You find a third, and see a strange sight. A planet...burning. Its crust being torn apart by something vast. You can feel it shift, shaping itself in space like liquid mercury, and it twists in your direction. You feel an unbearable pain run through your head and seal the doorway, the mote of light vanishing in a moment. The crystal retreats to its normal size with the sound of thunder as the air around it fills in the vacuum left behind, and the crystal grows silent.

Coil sits still on the floor, small pockets of purple float across his... you think it could be a face.
"You! You are one of the chosen to feel the current!" He starts shaking, convulsing even. You quickly carry him back to his cell, but his is... you think laughing.


That's it for this week. Got the archive up. Will try to stay a while for feedback, complaints, comments, ect.
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>>33100344
I can't wait until we use this just to spy on Lee.
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>>33100344
Queen for Chosen Race
confirmed
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>>33100344
>burning. Its crust being torn apart by something vast.
Shit.

That's probably not They though. Some other psionic being.

Wait if being chosen means having tachyon/psionic communications from your brain.

Does that mean Ceph pilots like Coil all have some amount of telepathy too?
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>>33100344
>"You! You are one of the chosen to feel the current!"
Could the current have to do with tachyons?
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>>33100377
>>33100378
> It is emanating a signal, but not any radiation, you sense the ebb and flow of tachyons flowing in swirling patterns around the crystal!

>Coil is crawling towards the device, his shell emanating a rapid pulse of tachyons in a pitifully weak manner as his skin strobes with color in time with the crystals pulsing.

No duh, to both.
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>>33100344
"Oh man... I hope Theseus didn't hear that."
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>>33100378
Judging by his wording, and the way the crystal behaved, you think it is safe to assume that "The current" is the Ceph way of referring to Tachyons, yes.

>>33100377
He was actually broadcasting a small mount of tachyons himself from his shell, although it felt more like a drone asking for direction than a command. Perhaps he was "asking" the crystal something?
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>>33100377
Probably, that means neither Unity nor the Union can't use ceph FTL save for extreme genetic engineering or augmentation.
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>>33100425
Can we bombard Coil with tachyons, and see if he responds?

I find it interesting their method of FTL is our method of communication.
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>>33100475
>their method of FTL is our method of communication.
wait

WAIT

...

IMPLICATIONS!
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>>33100475
It's our method of FTL too.

Just different application. They seem to be using flows that are naturally occurring, instead.
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>>33100492
In fact here:

>>31748265
>Your drive uses Tritium gas decay to collect tachyons until there is enough to surround the ship, instantly transporting it from point A to point B (there are a lot of annoying physics reasons as to why this actually doesn't work, but fuck it, it's cool.) I wanted to have each race develop an FTL method that suits them. The Blink Drive seemed the most fitting due to your psionic communication, which uses the science-magic of tachyonic particles that are theoretical and undetectable under normal circumstances (or in our case, almost totally disproven, but that's taking a pessimistic approach to science)
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>>33100512
Wait this reminds me.

When we finally go to claim a new planet, do we fuel FTL jumps with a big lump of Nutrients, or....
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>>33100492

I'm not sure those crystals occurred naturally. Pretty sure they didn't, judging by the "First" comment made by Coil.

Eventually we'll get to find out what the thing eating the planet was, and whether it was Coil the character laughing as we dragged him away or the GM laughing through Coil.

Congratulations on your setting Quest Drone, I never saw a forerunner race coming. You done good.
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>>33100512
Thank you for citing your source.

Though I would like to know how the Ceph drives and ours differ, exactly. It seems that we calculate where we want to go, then tachyon there. But the Ceph guess where they want to go, and then follow tachyons there.
So the Ceph are following orders/currents Navigator style, while we're just using physics.

Regardless of that, we now have a palantir.
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>>33100555
The crystals, no.

But they're just a way to tap into the flows between places, the crystal doesn't create innumerable gateways to spaces far beyond. It just opens the door to the thought-trails or whatever.
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>>33100574

I'm sure that whatever it does will become more clear with research.
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>>33100555
Precursors were also heavily implied much earlier by Unity.

>>32365715
> We have found signs of others, either long past or distant."
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>>33100588
Maybe we can research a way not to make it reach to the skies and end with a sound like thunder next time.
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>>33100614
Good thing that Union sat is still offline then, eh?
If it is already online by the time we conducted our experiment... well, suffice to say we will live in interesting times.
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>>33100475
You could, but it seems that the shell, not him specifically is what was broadcasting. He never seemed to be able to sense your hive network, so he either can't detect your transmissions, or can only detect the shard. You are still unsure, and he takes a religious approach to it so it's virtually impossible to actually get him to make sense of it all. To you it is as simple as speaking to someone, to him it's literal magic.

>>33100540
Still not sure, at first I thought of using gas, but I don't want to make another resource, so I might use nutrients. Actually, what would you guys prefer?

>>33100574
Correct. The crystal appears to create a doorway into some kind of twisted dimensional network which Coil referred to as the Water, likely due to his biological history as an aquatic race, and because the void appears to actively twist and reshape itself like an ocean current system. or the Warp

>>33100564
But you never know who may be watching...

>>33100614
Well, normally it's attached to a ship, so it would just extend into space out the back.
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>>33100634
It might make sense to spend Nutrients on a fuel converter that then can synthesize something directly FTL-useable? Ships could be refueled, or be big enough to have their own. I dunno how to design mechanics really.
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>>33100634
Exactly.

Just like the palantir.

When you gaze into the crystal ball, it gazes also into you.
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>>33100634
Having another resource for us to worry about does allow for some interesting conflict.
Also have you looked at these?
>donjon.bin.sh
>www.xenology.info/Xeno.htm
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>>33100634
We should try to get his shell into receiving mode, so we can interact with it.
Then we need to discuss with Lyle.
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>tfw you realize this was just one void crystal in that device
>we have 4

Wh-what could we do with all of them?

Was 1 not enough to warp or cloak a ship that size, you think?
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>>33100634
I'm fine with an additional FTL Fuel resource.
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>we actually thought his dread god was legit because he was vague and ominous enough
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>>33100634
A third material would be fine.
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>>33100555
Thank you, that means a lot. I have always enjoyed world building. And no, the crystals are not natural. In fact they are not even real according to all attempts at measuring or analyzing them.

>>33100660
Well the way I figured, it would either use Tritium that you would mine from gas giants, or just abstract it and have each jump cost nutrients for the massive boost of power needed. The part of me that plays Distant Worlds wants to use it as a chance to make more resource points, and the part of me that plays Endless Space wants to just make it simple and streamlined.

>>33100684
Indeed I have, I looked over Donjon when I first had a crack at running a campaign for my gaming group. It also had clarke tech, actually, although it wasn't in space.

>>33100688
They interact with each other.
Since you had Coil's help, I'll say you "researched" it. It takes all four to actually move a physical object into the alternate space, but you were able to look through the gateway with just one due to your tachyon sensitivity.
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>>33100754
Actually, here is the prepared pastebin entry for it, I'll update it soon-ish now that you have unlocked it.

Slip Drive – Default FTL drive of all Ceph vessels. The slip drive uses the mysterious Void Crystal to shape local spacetime into a malleable, four dimensional object, creating a gateway into what is commonly translated as No Space, and literally translated as “Waters of Creation”. It is unknown where the Ceph obtain these crystals, or how they are manufactured, or even if they are manufactured at all or simply a natural resource. When subjected to large amounts of energy, the Void Crystal will rapidly expand and amplify the energy in a manner that would at first seem to be in violation of physics. It is believed that the energy produced by the crystal in response to the energy sent into it emanates from No Space, although it is unclear how.
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>>33100754
They truly are the ultimate black box

Is that even a pun I don't now anymore
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>>33100779
Wrong quest to use black box as a pun.
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>>33100778
Hmm. We still haven't asked Coil how he makes the ship 'rhymes with blinvisible'.
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>>33100778
so uh how do we make more Void Crystals
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>>33100809
We don't know.
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>>33100809
>making
>void
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>>33100793
>AI named after Greek mythological figure
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>>33100736
Goddamn cargo cults
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>>33100826
> Queen of hearts.
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>>33100804
Well, I say he, but I don't know if Ceph have binary genders.
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Just read through, and don't know if anybody mentioned this, but we should build a secure research facility. A bunker deep underground where we can do potentially dangerous research. have it manned by haz-mat workers and the thinkers control them from afar, out of harms way.

Also. Fuck yeah, loved the ending. Can't wait for the next thread.
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>>33100826
That was actually a joke inspired by arguments in the general. Whenever the Unity "move" themselves they end up making a copy and deleting the original. They both understand and accept this, which is why they consider loss of knowledge worse then death.
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>>33100855
I know. It's just a great coincidence. Cosmic, even.
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>>33100855
I'll add "Bunker lab" to the construction options then. Now that you have some excavators the digging should be much faster.
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>>33100864
Why are we talking in spoilers?
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>>33100875
>>33100853
meant to link here. All these spoilers man. mixing me up.
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>>33100875
Who are--Hey how long have you lost your trip?

Also was there a description of Cyclotronics weapon research pre-written? Its power level versus ballistic weapons?
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>>33090557
jews
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>>33100888
darn it all.

>>33100855
>>33100875
>>33100883
are me.
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How deadly is Queen in close combat, without her egg sack weighing her down?
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Those crystals still move when you're not looking at them and they don't even seem to be made of matter.

They're still a little 2spooky.

>>33100920
Questions I hope never to get an answer to, really.
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>>33100920
Decent. Built mostly for evasion though. No armor, but powerful wings and good combat blades.
Essentially intended to survive long enough to set up a hive. She is by no means a combat expert.
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>>33100902
How much would it cost to upgrade are infrastructure?
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>>33100948
OP could we research something like a martial art for our warriors to use?
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>>33100902
Are Lyle's Limbs an unlocked research subject?

Is there a description for Liner Particle Beam written yet? The answer can be no it's ok I'll wait for next week
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>>33100981
They already have martial arts.
It's called "Bugs Everywhere, Motherfucker!"
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>>33100981
martial arts are for species with bodies not biologically engineered to fight with perfect discipline and coordination in melee battle.
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>>33100988
They are now that you removed them, and no, not yet, but they are the same thing but in a line, so the longer the weapon the more powerful it is. It's intended as a keep mounted weapon for ships. Both Rails and Linear beams will do more damage when mounted on longer ships.

>>33100973
Not sure, that would depend on what you would want it to do I guess.

>>33100981
I kinda assume your warriors sorta already have one
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>>33100998
Martial arts are used to improve fighting efficiency whether or not you're biologically engineered.
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>>33101033
There is only less than 100% efficiency when you are an inferior, non biologically engineered creature without natural weapons like claws and mandibles to cut your enemy's heads off.
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>>33100988
I want that neato heated blade loop thingy Lyle had on his suit. Shit was cash.
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>>33101038
100% efficiency is impossible.
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>>33101058
Not if you're a biologically engineered seven foot tall bladed and mandibled killing machine which can soak fire like a piece of concrete.
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>>33101067
Dude we're not a perfect lifeform, OP confirm it.
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>>33101058
'already fully optimized from thousands of years of experience', then.

Their 'martial art' / combat style is genetically programmed into their brains.

Martial arts as we know them kind of go out the window when you have blades built into your arms. They're more like swordfighting styles.
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Gotta laugh at these crops though. I mean.

>electro algae
simple enough food
>grape shot
weapon applications!
>bird-berries
...I have no idea what we're gonna get from researching into this more. One of these things is not like the others
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>>33101094
Uhh, spies that can disguise themselves as palnts?
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>>33101094
You know how in Macross the jet fighters can also turn into mechs?

Like that, but with biology instead of shape.
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>>33101094
They instinctively fly away from danger. Reverse that, program them to recognize an intended species, and load it with explosives... just one idea.
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>>33101026
Cyclotronics itself seems pretty powerful, it vaporized a lot of shit back in the first human camp.

High range, Very High damage?
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>>33101124
and it already does so in seeking out 'mate' berries too
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>>33101137
Great accuracy, lower damage than the lightning gun though. The outcome of that fight was due to the drone ripping through makeshift shelters built into soft, spongy trees and survival suits intended to block blunt trauma, while its own armor was tailor made to subvert the lightning gun. It counted for a lot.
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>>33101161
A single Unity drone also took down the USV Clarke, didn't it? They said it was 'hiding in the atmosphere'.
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>>33101176
Actually, it was a bunch of them, they were just spread out to search for the landing sight of the capsules so only three showed up at the time. The rest were back in the bigger carrier ship.
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>>33101196
capsules?
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>>33101207
Escape capsules, I'd guess?
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>>33101176
I think that was a Unity ship that downed the Clarke, and the drones were dispatched for cleanup.

Speaking of ships; what do Hive ships resemble?
Also, how do Queens specifically refer to other Queens? We know their 'language' is all tachyon-thought, so do individual Queens possess a unique group of thought-patterns other Queens can identify and refer to them by?
If that is true, I vote our Queen take up the name Red, for it is the royal color.
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>>33101221
I want our name to somehow hint at what Lee called us.
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>>33101221
No, the server ship was still distant in the system.

>>31746123
>When we reached orbit here and were about to launch the surface probes we were attacked by a Unity drone. The thing was hiding in the atmosphere so we never saw it coming. The ship was destroyed
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>>33101207
>>33101214
Yes, the ones you found when you rolled the first crit of the quest and found the Clarke instead.

>>33101221
Red would probably be somewhat appropriate, as the Queen's carapace started white but has become covered in pink and red patterns from the diet of jelly.
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>>33101252
Yeah but we were talking about it being a single drone that took down the Clarke and made it crash in the first place, so that was a whiles before.
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>>33101252
We should totally call it the Royal Jelly.
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>>33101252
I don't think we covered what color the electro algae spores are, did we? That adding color to the workers' carapaces.
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>>33101319
Blue, probably.
Cause they're workers. Get it?
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>>33101319
I'll go ahead and say the algae itself glows a subtle, light red, like salmon eggs.



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