Is there a definitive agreement on the characteristics of different colors of dragon, or does it vary on setting?The only one I ever really see agreed upon over pretty much any setting are that red dragons tend to be the most powerful, most greedy, and can breathe fire.
>>33067876Raimbow dragon>True Fabulous
>>33067876I'm pretty sure it varies wildly, though the Chromatic/Metallic/Gem/other categories from D&D are fairly regular in other games too.
Varies wildly.Ultimately I'd say Dragons should just rock whatever they look best in.If you're gonna be a lame dragon with feathers, you better be white and if you're breathing fire you can't go wrong with red.
I want to have dragons for all the metals. All of them
>>33068955Gallium Dragon aka King Metal Slime in dragon form
>>33068919>breathing fire you can't go wrong with red.Ah, but wouldn't it be better for a fire-breathing dragon to not be red, so as to not broadcast its weaknesses?>>33068955I think D&D did a lot of them in various splat books.
pretty sure power ranger dragons are a D&D thing
>>33069006>not having the Rainbow Council as the governing body of all dragonkind in your setting
In myth, while dragons were different colors (the red dragon of Wales vs the white dragon of England, for example) but it didn't determine their nature or abilities as far as I'm aware. I'm pretty sure this is just a D&D contrivance that has made its way into modern lore.Personally, the dragons in my setting are mildly chameleonic.
>>33069087The dragons in the Pern series were coloured, where it affected their size, breath and fertility. Pern predates 1st edition D&D by a couple of years. It may well have originated there.
>>33067876I thought dragon scales vary with location and evolution and descendants. Just like real lizards.dragon thread?
My favourite dragons are deep green and red. I prefer colour and breath power to be dependent on the dragon's breed rather than solely each other, though.
>>33068955ALL the metals?
>>33068955Potassium dragon would be bad ass. Or a fucking depleted uranium dragon? Hell yeah. Plutonium dragon, shit's like a fucking nuke. How about Americium dragon? Motherfucker be all red white and blue and shit.
>>33069587Yes. Obviously Sodium and its brother live on the moon, where there is no moisture to make them explode.
Is this thread now about determining the properties of the various metallic dragons? If so, should we start with the transition metals, as they are the most traditionally dragony?
>>33069776Sure. Also I assume ferromancers (the fantasy version of Magneto, basically) would use Iron, Cobalt and Steel dragons as mounts.Also alloy metals would be the offspring of two dragons of the metals that make up that alloy.
>>33069776Scandium dragons are very rare. They are silvery-white, sometimes tending to yellowish or pinkish. They are very lazy and don't do much of anything at all unless accompanied by aluminum dragons, with whom, for reasons that are not fully understood, they make highly productive partnerships.
Osmium dragons are the heaviest of the naturally occurring dragons (that is, those that are not the result of powerful atomic magic). They are also the rarest sort of dragon that is not universally radioactive. Theirs shiny, bluish white or gray scales are extremely hard, but can be rather brittle. Their touch is highly poisonous to most creatures and their meat even moreso. Even more than their cousins, platinum and iridium dragons, osmium dragons are curiously prone to writing. They seem driven to collect and record information, though the specific interests of individual osmium dragons vary widely. They resistant to heat, even by the standards of dragons.
What of the Bismuth dragon?
>>33076050Edgy as fuck.
>>33067876It varies depending on setting, and I don't know how you could avoid knowing that.What a dragon IS depends on the setting, for crying out loud.
>>33070229Yttrium dragons are born in very special locations in the far border zones of the Elemental Plane of Earth. They are highly rare, and are part of a broad family of similar draconic subspecies, genetically divergent from most of dragonkind. They intermingle freely with many other creatures, and in general, these halfbreeds offer no real significant properties of note, beyond enhanced hybrid vigor with many other elemental dragons.But, rare even among these rare breeds, is a subtype, the Ybacuo tribe. This tribe lives in a conflux of local energies within the Plane of Earth, which has attracted other metallic dragons for centuries like a lodestone. The inevitable crossbreeding, blending bloodlines from a dozen different species, has given rise to a group of dragons ignorant of their true power until recently. A surge of energy from the Plane of Ice cast the region into an unnaturally cold winter for several years, and the Ybacuo dragons discovered that the energies of the leylines flowed into them with tremendous force as their bodies cooled. So long as they remained chilled, they could fly with trivial effort, summon whirlwinds of magnetic force, and most intriguingly, store titanic quantities of magical energy with no difficulty. Drinking deeply from the leylines, the Ybacuo could shatter mountains with no more effort than picking up a quill pen. Once the winter subsided, the energies dissipated, and now the Ybacuo are considering immigrating to colder climates, to study what their true power might be. Other elemental dragons are conspiring against them, though, for fear of what their super-magical powers might allow them to do.
>>33076650Francium dragons are a tragic case of genetic instability. Once in a great while, Uranium and Thorium dragon mothers lay a silvery egg possessed of incredible heat, enough to melt the other eggs in the clutch and sometimes, even injure the mother itself. The female dragon cools the egg inside the body, but the birthing process often causes fatalities. These eggs are sequestered well away from the rest of the family, for their tremendous heat precludes the need for incubation, and they hatch phenomenally quickly, within a matter of days, compared to the usual months. The young dragon emerges, and within hours is walking, talking, flying, and growing. By the young dragon's fifth day of life, it is fully mature, a silvery creature blazing with radiant, flameless heat. For the safety of its family, Francium dragons are immediately exiled upon reaching maturity, with no small degree of sorrow.Their emotional and mental stability is questionable at the best of times, and Francium dragons keenly feel their own mortality ticking forward minute by minute. Oftentimes, they lash out at anything and everything near them, enraged at their minute lifespan. Even the most heat resistant dragons, Osmiums and Tungstens, fear the Francium dragon, whose sustained torrent of energy will eventually penetrate their carapace. Whatever the chaos their lives may cause, a Francium's rampage is cut short quickly, limiting the damage to a local scale. Whereas their mothers may live for tens of thousands of years, these mutant children burn away within a single year at most. A rare handful do manage to achieve some measure of stability, and have produced musical art, for no other form of art could survive their heat, of great beauty and poignancy. Only two known instances of Francium dragons meeting in the wild have ever been recorded, and no details of the incidents have survived. The breed's reproductive potential is unknown.(anyone liking these, or should i stopr?)
Nothing universal, it's a setting by setting deal. The most common shared trend for dragon variety is chromatic superiority, where one set of dragons is inherently superior to those of a different color. Metallic dragons tend to be in a similar tier system that orders them by tiers with the lowest being whatever the shittiest material in the system is and the highest being made of the best material, like bronze < iron < steel < fantasy badass material < fantasy legendary material
>>33076919Since when does /tg/ not love science wank, dragons, and stories?Please continue
>>33076919Loving it. Keep it up.
>>33076919Arsenic dragons are lightweight, greyish creatures, often found in the company of Lead dragons. For most of history, they spent their time wandering the world, driven from place to place by an endless stream of mysterious deaths that seemed to follow them around. Long eons have passed, and there is as yet only the vaguest of explanations for the phenomenon, but the breed has a reputation for being cursed, and have taken to acting as oracles and seers, given their association with death. They're not particularly strong dragons, nor do they have any breath weapons, but those around them almost inevitably succumb and die, unless they are metallic or more exotic races. The land withers and dies, and remains uninhabitable for generations where they pass. Lead dragons are almost the only ones who will tolerate them, and the halfbreeds are terrifying creatures indeed. Stronger, smarter and faster, these are the scholars and generals of their kinds. So long as they are left alone, the Arsenic dragons are mostly harmless, but if attacked, the repercussions can linger for millennia.
>>33067876Red Dragons are the strongest, and that's pretty much it.
>>33077154Many of the larger metallic dragons are deadly not because of their strength or speed, but because they are surrounded by a strange force, akin to heat or a very bright, penetrating light. Simply being near them is enough to kill an unprotected man, and the nations of the Material Plane fear their blessedly rare incursions.One species of metallic though, barely deserving of the name, is the Boron Dragon. Relatively small, and quite fragile, they are astoundingly swift creatures, with gigantic, gossamer wings disproportionate to their size. High altitude fliers, they can take to the air with nothing more than a slight breeze and a well angled wing. On the ground, they are nimble, seeming to defy gravity as they scamper around with a decidedly un-draconic glee. These strange dragons were once more common than they are now, because the Material Plane denizens figured out that their bodies could absorb and block that deadly force of the greater Metallics. A great slaughter ensued, hunting the Borons nearly to extinction for their skin and wings, which could forge protective cloaks and armor for an entire human or orc tribe. The Borons now live in extremely isolated areas, and are profoundly reclusive and distrustful. Gear made from their bodies is a relic now, and fetches astronomical prices.Entire tribes die each year hunting the remaining beasts, but when a single corpse can buy a mighty town or army, the lust for greed eternally fuels the hunt.
>>33067876The red thing is just because their template is Smaug.Anyway, D&D cooked up the whole color scheme thing about dragons. The color of dragons in myth and legend is rarely noted, and when it is it has little bearing on their abilities/personality. Why would other games be beholden to D&D's fluff?
>>33077324Gold Dragons are noble creatures indeed, their fiery gleam recorded in countless stories across time. Heavy, solid beasts, they can fly though rather poorly, and prefer to spend their time on the ground when possible. They're great swimmers, and no matter how long they spend in the water, their scales never tarnish in the slightest, as do some other metallics. Though valuable and hunted, unlike the Borons, a Gold is perfectly capable of smashing human-sized enemies asunder, though they come off decidedly the weaker in clashes with Iron, Tungsten, Titanium, and other such draconics, as their scales bend under the pressure those dragons can produce. The true strength of the Gold is its ability to produce and channel enormous blasts of electrical energy, enough to sear flesh from bone and turn bone to charcoal, though they still cannot match their Silver cousins' utterly titanic electrical capacity. The Golds fear Mercury dragons above all else, whose cloying touch will slough their flesh off their bones like so much pudding. When crossbred with Silver or Copper dragons, the halfbreeds are not much stronger than either parent, and sometimes weaker, but they attain an incredible array of subtle variations in hue, with rose, whitish, greenish-yellow and reddish hues all observed. These dragons are commonly considered among the most beautiful of all Metallic dragonkind, across the various species, and often become something rather like cultural idols.
>>33077472Bismuth dragons are a strange breed indeed. In their early life, they are dull metallic gray, looking little different from most other metallic dragons. As they mature, though, a strange and wondrous change occurs in their scales. Both genders develop large growths all over their upper bodies, with the male's being much larger. These extended scales are jagged and rough, with no two looking alike, and no two dragons having the same growth patterns. Similarities exist between families, but for this species, their scales are their fingerprints, and they take inordinate pride in them. Growing to about the size of a man's head, the scales have all the colors of the rainbow, and reflect brilliantly in the sun. Mating displays are wondrous to behold, a riot of color and flashing lights. Though intended for their mates, the Bismuths are unapologetic attention whores, and love it when tourists come to observe their shimmering rituals. When ground up, shed scales can be used in makeup and pigments, creating a beautiful pearlescent color, and it is highly in demand across the worlds. They are also much less toxic than most of the heavier metallic dragons, and as such are far safer to interact with, which encourages their tourism trade.
>>33077604>>33077472>>33077324>>33077154>>33076919>>33076650Well, my fingers are pretty much broken now, and i'm out of ideas for the moment. This could become a really interesting alternate D&D universe or similar cosmology though, and it'd be cool to keep expanding on it.
This is wonderful stuff. Just the sort of thing that would have been archived, in years past.
>>33077812Thank you for your efforts, anon, they've certainly been an inspiration for me.
>>33077845>>33077830Thanks, guys. I like to help when i can. Double bonus because i'm a chemist IRL.
>>33069896>Aluminum>Not AluminiumBoner gone, cops called, jets scrambled, president alerted, ER prepped, proxies readied, UN sanctions in effect.
>>33077879Yeah, cause why should we go with what the guy who discovered it named it?
>>33077898Because people who discover things don't get to name them.Especially scientific elements, which unlike stupid shit like Gifs need standardized names.Like, legit, no chemist is going to call it Aluminum.
>>33077830Well why not archive it then? it'd be better than most of the other garbage on suptg and 1d4chan of late.
If it wasn't midnight I'd try to draw some of these. If the thread's not around tomorrow, somebody needs to request it in the drawthread lest I forget.
the fuck is a yellow dragon
>>33077879Discoverer named it aluminum. "aluminium" is a pedantic invention of an anonymous mailer to the scientific journal the aluminum extraction method was published in. Eat shit, you nancy, poncy ninny. There were elements before aluminum that ended with -um instead of -ium, and there were elements after, and you have no logical or consistent leg to stand on.
>>33077919Except all the chemists that matter, because when you have talent you go to the big spot of research and cash and comfort that is the United States. Where they call it aluminum. As was originally requested.
>>33078224Sulfur dragons live up to their reputation as firey creatures, often found in and around volcanic vents and fumaroles. Extremely difficult to spot in their native environment, when found elsewhere they have an extremely distinctive yellow hue. They smell extremely pungent, and are unwelcome in towns or around vegetation, which they kill just by being around. Scrapings of their shed scales provides extremely useful antifungal and anti insect powders though, and provide the beasts with valuable trade goods. Ground into the soil, their scales also promote plant growth, and are in demand by farmers everywhere. When angered, they squeeze water from an internal bladder, mixing it with their essence and forming a profoundly deadly acid, which can strip a man's flesh in minutes. As such, they are extremely hazardous in a fight, for armor means nothing to their liquid fury. When crossbred with Iron dragons, a hybrid is formed that looks very like a Gold dragon, though it is a sterile, fairly unintelligent creature, much weaker than either parent. However, as might be expected from parents of Iron and Sulfur, when the Pyrite child strikes a claw against its chest, sprays of hot sparks can be formed. Sometimes, when Sulfur dragon scales are ground up and mixed with secret compounds, an explosion occurs from a Pyrite's spark. Indeed, the Pyrites, despite their lack of intelligence by draconic standards, are the world's first users of guns and gunpowder, using tools to make up for what mother nature didn't give them, and they get along with mortal races far better than most. >>33077812I lied, I had one more idea before bed. :P
I just don't know what to think of this creature.Is it a Wyvern or a Dragon?
>>33078224An alcoholic beverage with a proof so high that it instantaneously turns your liver yellow.
>>33079353Does the setting call it a dragon? It's a dragon.Does the setting call it a wyvern? Its a wyvern.I personally go a squares/rectangles deal when it comes to dragons where all wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns.Now don't try to start that particular shitty fucking arguement afuckingain.
>>33079428But it's got the Wing Arms of a Wyvern and but also 2 Regular Arms like a DragonIT MAKES NO SENSE
>>33079721Who the hell cares? Pick whatever definition satisfies your autism and be done with it.
>>33079721>>33079773That's Shagaru MagaraIt's an Elder Dragon
Would a platinum dragon be exceedingly rare and be immune to nearly all environmental effects?
>>33080034Well, if we're talking about the more "scientific" elemental dragons that some people made, the rarity of the metal IRL doesn't seem to necessarily correlate to the rarity of the dragons. Platinum is an incredibly corrosion resistant metal, so, acid proof and probably trumps Sulfur dragons, but it's not necessarily resistant to *all* environmental effects. It's also very ductile and fairly malleable, so physical impacts would still work.
>>33076070>bismuth>edgy as fuck>LaughingOutLoud.acronymTook me too long to get this
>>33069634So how do you tell which is which for all the metals that look basically the same.Nobody will get bismuth dragon confused though.
>>33067876D&D came up with the idea of the different categories of dragons classified by colors.If you ask about D&D settings, yes, the ones in the MM are pretty much the basic, with the local variations
bump for interest
>>33080529Bismuth dragon and LSD time
>>33078224I was gonna post this
I'd imagine Iron and Copper dragons have an intense rivalry as master forgers and smiths. Copper Dragons would be considered more attractive, older ones wearing their green patina with pride. A side affect of this attractiveness is the sheer volume of bastardized offspring that Copper dragons produce, most notably the clans of Brass and Bronze dragons. Copper dragons have powerful electric breath, and offspring with Zinc dragons have electricity visibly crackling across their skin.Iron dragons may not have the grace of their rivals, but they are some of the most numerous in this day and age and they simply exude a feeling of strength and durability. They are among the handful of dragons that can control magnetic fields, and use this ability to create tools that rival those of Copper Dragons in quality and intricacy. Rust is an ever constant threat, so many iron dragons tamper with their own bodies, trying to reforge their own scales into something less resistant to corrosion: the Steel Dragons have perfected a version of this technique and keep this hard earned secret well guarded.
All I know is that black dragons>all.
>>33084029Black dragon are the sexiest.
>>33080529That's part of the danger, i'd imagine. The dragons can tell each other apart quite readily off of subtle differences in shade, reflectiveness, and mass, but for most races, barring those that have the desire and the lifespan to study and catalogue the metallics (elvish alchemists or something?), they would be unable to tell the difference, save for obvious ones like Gold, Copper, and Mercury. And I guess Boron, because giant radiation shielding wings is a cool idea. Many an adventurer has met an untimely grave assuming a Titanium Dragon was a lesser Aluminum.
Titanium dragons are one of the physically strongest species of dragons in existence - they are nearly as resistant to chemical-based damage as platinum dragons, their scales are extremely strong, and despite weighing significantly less than the typical iron or steel dragon, they possess just as much strength as most, if not all members of the former, as well as many instances of the latter. They are also quite resistant to heat and electricity compared to other types of dragon, though their strength wanes when exposed to very high temperatures for extended periods of time; notably, their scales, normally a silvery grey-white colour, tend to be shed more frequently in hotter environments, and after shedding, fade to white and erode to a powder that is highly sought as a pigment.Their greatest strength, however, is perhaps located in the versatility that their offspring show, specifically their hybrids, whose natural traits and inclinations can range from military knowledge to medical application, and in a few rare cases, some that even possess all the traits needed for them to be capable of flights into the planet's upper atmosphere and beyond, up to and including metabolisms that eliminate the need for oxygen. Due to this, alongside a general inclination towards non-similar dragon breeds, titanium dragons will almost always live and mate with dragons from other breeds if they have a choice, typically preferring iron, aluminium, vanadium, or molybdenum partners, though concerted efforts from other species and the relatively high rate at which titanium dragons can produce offspring ensures that their pure forms remain one of the most common species of metal dragon in existence.
>>33084339A world with with the Periodic Table of Dragons would be a beneficial one. Just think. With all the subtleties required to not die horribly, the world would be full of nerds that knew all about chemistry and how to quickly determine the types of dragon.Now if only we could have math and literature dragons.
>>33084441At the far extent of the Metallic dragon family, we observe the Lithium dragon family. The smallest of the true metallics, they are often mistaken for other animals, confused with natives of Mechanicus in particular. Only about the size of a small child, and not particularly intelligent, the Lithium dragon is nevertheless dangerous, in no small part because of its profligate breeding habits and vast population. To other dragons, they are a nuisance, but to humans, they can be a menace if enraged. Fortunately, the Lithium dragon is the gentlest of the Alkali subfamily. To smaller creatures like Kobolds and Halflings, their speed makes them deadly, though the Lithium's soft flesh is easy enough to pierce with a spear or sling stone. They are native to deserts, high mountaintops, and anywhere where there is little moisture. Rain causes their flesh to bubble and sear, and is extremely painful. For this reason, water is the weapon of choice against them. The Lithium's breath weapon is one of the most distinctive of the metallic species, colored a brilliantly deep red flame. This flame is used in their mating rituals, and males that can breathe the largest and most colorful flames are the most desirable. Unlike the Bismuths, Lithiums are quite territorial, and do not lightly permit outsiders to observe their rituals.
>>33080529I mean I imagine that there are serious anatomical and skeletal differences based on weight and flight ability alone: I imagine Iron Dragons to be relatively stocky by weight, while copper ones are more lithe and, well, wiry.
>>33084608Thorium dragons are massive, heavy creatures, with the dull silvery appearance common to most members of the metallic dragon subspecies. As with many of the heavier varieties, they are surrounded by an invisible, heatless force, capable of poisoning and killing those mortals who dare to come too close. With such protection, almost all the "radiant" metallics are peaceful creatures, having never had a need to defend themselves, owing to their size and energy. The Thoriums are particularly congenial and friendly, though still no less deadly. Their breath is a strange, invisible gas, which carries the heatless death property of their bodies. It is much heavier than air, and though its range is limited, it pools, eddies, and is extremely hard to remove. Historical records indicate that a wealthy Drow noble made the terrible mistake of capturing a young Thorium dragon for his coliseum, and when the furious parents showed up to rescue their child, within a hour the underground cavern was devoid of life. Even now, the city remains, filled with invisible death and lacking breathable air, a perfectly preserved monument to the folly of chaining forces beyond one's control.
>>33067946>protector of /lgbt/ and pink unicorns
>>33084653Uranium and Plutonium dragons are very closely related subspecies, sharing a common genetic pool and often crossbreeding. They are profligate artists, crafting beautiful red, green, and yellow glass sculptures by mixing glass with their ground up scales. Colorful ceramics are also extremely popular. The two species can live almost anywhere, heated by an internal warmth that never ends. Red dragons can breathe hotter fire, but a Uranium dragon's heat is something altogether different. The two species are too heavy to fly, their wings having become vestigial cooling devices.Though normally peaceful, Uraniums and Plutoniums can harness their internal fire in a very different way than most of the other "radiant" metallics. When angered, they can release a blast of heat and light of truly immense proportions, enough to shatter a city's walls or incinerate an army, and they can sustain this force for hours if need be. Most civilized nations treat them with some wariness, and in general, the Uranium and Plutonium species keep to themselves. Some few youngsters have been tempted by the promise of wealth and power though, and serve as unstoppable engines of war with which to conquer neighboring countries. It is unclear what this imbalance of power may lead to, but kings and emperors are emptying their treasuries to secure these dragons' services. What being used as siege engines may do to the dragons and their mental state in the long term is an open question.
>>33067876If it's a metalic, that must be a Bismuth Dragon!
>>33084718Chromium dragons are an incredible species of metallics, their scales shining with a luster and reflectivity far beyond any of their cousin species. They are unusually friendly to mortal races, and commonly come to towns to trade goods and services. One of the most notable quirks of the subspecies is their use of gizzard stones, as many birds do, in order to aid digestion. Over the course of decades, these rocks roll around in their hot, acidic insides, and absorb the essence of the dragon. When they are eventually regurgitated or excreted, the stones that emerge are beautiful jewels, usually rubies and emeralds. It is said that over the millennia, almost all such gems found by miners in fact have their origins in a Chromium's gut. The Chromiums attach no value to these stones, but have learned over the years that other species desire them, and use them as trade goods. In the wild, the lightweight Chromiums usually fly away from their assailants, but their large, flexible wings can also reflect and concentrate light by forming a parabolic shape, blinding and burning their enemies. For this reason, Chromiums tend to live in well-lit areas, often atop mountain peaks. How you all liking this second round of dragons so far? Feedback would be appreciated.
>>33077324Now I just want to give a boron dragon a hug.
>>33084881loving it and wearing out my F5 button
>>33084885Well, when the kings of other nations are trying to use Uraniums as weapons of war, it stands to reason that anything that might be able to resist them must be claimed at all costs, even at the cost of the species itself. But, I'm glad you liked the concept. If you can find them, and get them not to kill you on sight, I'm sure they'd appreciate a hug.
>>33084881effing great. keep them coming.
>>33084881Phosphorous dragons are a genetically unstable species, with four common subcategories distinguished by the vibrant colors of their scales. White, Red, Violet, and Black Phosphorous dragons have all been observed in the wild. White is fairly uncommon, and is characterized, much as Francium dragons are, by mental instability, a volatile temper, and a short lifespan of only a few decades to a century. The Whites breathe a powerful flame, and when struck by edged weapons, will shed a gout of sparks from their hide. In general, it is recommended to use only maces and other blunt weapons when hunting this breed. Whites are easy to detect, because in the dark, they glow a faint bluish-green. Reds are more stable than Whites, and their scales are very small and flexible, almost like a snake's. With age, the Reds become Blacks, almost inert and without fire. These are the elders of the species, and can live for millennia. Violet Phosphorous dragons are only found in close proximity to Lead dragons, and seem to absorb some of the Lead's stability and resilience. This subspecies is genetically distinct from the other Phosphorous dragons, rare and poorly studied.
>>33084881Only thing so far is that Thorium and typical Uranium are actually totally harmless. Even though you can hold enough Thorium to power civilization for an hour in the palm of your hand, it isn't actually radioactive enough to poison you for years.
>>33085039Iodine dragons are large, reclusive creatures. Fairly rare, they are generally found near the sea. They are large creatures, and rather docile, living in large family groups. The Iodine dragon is dark and metallic gray, but their breath is a deep, rich purple, and smells foul. This breath is much heavier than air, and rolls along the ground burning vegetation and animal species alike. When angered, they can vent a copious quantity of this gas, and are considered extremely dangerous. Those protected from corrosion and inhalation, however, will find the Iodine to be suprisingly soft and easy prey. The Iodines are slow and clumsy dragons, only barely capable of flight, with unusually soft scales. It is fortunate that their corpses aren't used for anything in particular, or the species would surely face extinction in short order. Some Iodines have found service as healers, having discovered that small amounts of their breath can kill infections and bacteria. If you can tolerate the smell and the burning sensation, an Iodine can give you a new lease on life.
>>33085103Yeah, some of the characteristics are exaggerated for the purposes of distinguishing the species, and written from the perspective of a Monster Manual type deal.
>>33084881>How you all liking this second round of dragons so far? Feedback would be appreciated.These are great, please keep it up. And please revise the copper/iron entries if they're not what you had in mind. I do find it a little frightening how many radioactive dragons there'll wind up being, but that's hardly your fault.
>>33085160Well, we don't necessarily have to do every metal as a species. I'll be honest, there's a lot of difficulty even with just the transition elements, since most of them boil down to "And there's a lot of hybrid vigor going on" representing the fact that most of them are primarily used in alloys. >And please revise the copper/iron entries if they're not what you had in mindI've written a lot of entries here, but this isn't *my* setting. I'm mostly just kinda hoping to attract some interest and get people involved with what I think is a cool idea. If a drawfriend or two showed up, that'd be awesome.If we made a 1d4chan page, that'd be pretty sweet too. If this turned into an actual setting, that'd be AWESOME.
>>33085185this would make for an amazingly fun setting, even getting a bit of edu-tainment going
>>33085185Well, i've got some shit to do for the next couple hours, so imma take a break and be back later, so I can take a fresh look at the Table. I look forward to seeing where you guys take this idea in the meantime.
>>33085236Iridium Dragons are from space and killed the dinosaurs.Just putin' that out there.
bump until the chemist gets back
I'm drawfagging Os right now.
>>33067876Dragon Magazine #170 had five new dragons of the "Ferrous" variety, and they were reprinted in Dragon Magazine #356. Here's page 1/13 of the Ferrous Dragon section of #356.
>>330865864/13TL;DR version: the five dragons in these pages are:>Iron>Chromium>Cobalt>Tungsten>Nickel
>>33086878Damn dude, that's fucking sweet.
>>33086878You should take a stab at the Bismuth or Boron dragons, they're pretty visually interesting, based on their descriptions.
>>33086878Damn, man, that's pretty fucking rad. Loving all these dragon ideas.
>>33087388Fuck yeah, bismuth.
>>33087637Is bismuth safe to use in jewelry making? And, if so, is there a way to preserve its edginess when doing so?
>>33087936Yes. Bismuth is the safest metal and it stays rainbowy like that in air.
>>33088095Well looks like I'm going to be getting into amateur metal casting then! Can't wait to cast some bismuth miniature parts!
>>33085236Sup guys, how's things going? I see we got a pretty nice piece of art, hope to see more. >>33086878Beryllium dragons are quite rare, and are highly photosensitive. Small but tough, their skin begins to decompose in the sun, for the radiation of stars is deadly to them. They are highly resistant to the "radiant" metallics, as the energy simply seems to pass through them, unlike the Borons, which absorb and diffuse the radiant energy. They have no breath weapons of their own, but when threatened, they shed copious amounts of toxic dust from underneath their scales, which cause growths to form in the victim's lungs, choking them to death. Beryllium dragons are widely sought after as mates by Copper, Aluminum, Iron and Nickel dragons, because their crossbreeds exhibit highly improved scale strength and hardness. As such, the smaller Berylliums are often politically minded dragons, pitting their larger allies against those that would harm them, and forming familial houses dedicated to strategic intermarriage and bloodline management. A Beryllium dragon can be identified not just by its small size, but by the greenish emerald nodules decorating the length of its spine. On the females, the emeralds are about the size of a man's thumb, but on the males, they can grow to nearly the size of a soda can in the largest and oldest specimens. Used to attract mates, shed scales are also presented as gifts to other dragons and even mortals on occasion. Beryllium dragons signify marriage by inscribing their names into the male's largest emerald spike, which is then shed and carried with them as long as the relationship lasts.
>>33088356Here's what bismuth looks like when cast. http://www.instructables.com/id/Fun-with-Bismuth/step5/Pouring-into-Molds/
>>33088381At the risk of stepping on more official toes, I'll give a shot at Iron dragons.Iron dragons are one of the most common breeds of metallic dragon. Massive, heavy, and confident, they roam the worlds as they wish. Impervious to most weapons, they often take work as mercenaries, miners, and metalworkers, as the mood takes them. This breed has an oddly humble streak, viewing themselves as a more "base" metal than others, and is willing to work closely with mortal races, often living among them. The Iron dragons are profligate crossbreeders, strengthening their familial status through strong children, and they are fiercely protective of their young. Their eggs are massive spheres of hard, grey metal, and are laid in clutches of several dozen. The Iron dragons fly, but only poorly, and have no breath weapons of their own. They have been learning the ways of gunpowder and firearms from their Pyrite children, and they have been seen laying unfertilized eggs for use as ammunition in heavy cannons carried in both hands. In this way, even those eggs that never become children serve the family. Iron dragons are vulnerable to corrosion, and never stay in areas where Sulfur dragons are present.
>>33068955Mercury Dragon, aka Terminator Dragon
>>33085303>>33088554Iridium dragons are very rare, and very poorly understood. Evidence suggests that they may be among the oldest of the metallic species, having come into being far away from the Elemental Plane of Earth or the Material Plane. Some great catastrophe is known to have occurred in the Material Plane's history, and the stones record a layer of Iridium and other draconic scales powdered and scattered across the plane. Whatever this was, it was so total that the species never recovered, and we may never know if it was invasion, the work of gods, or simple accident that killed so many. Now, the species survives only in small enclaves, and they are widely reviled among the metallic dragon subspecies for reasons that are as mysterious as their origins. Their scales shine with a dull metallic hue, and their weight leaves deep impressions in the ground as they walk. They do not fly, but tunneling through rock is almost as easy as a man swimming in water, owing to their tremendous density. Volcanoes are often their homes, for protection and because they themselves are immune to virtually all mundane sources of heat. They are almost immune to all forms of corrosion, and impact, making them intensely difficult to kill. It is suspected among draconic circles that the Iridiums are embarking on grand projects, far in the wilderness where no one can see. Whether they're trying to return to their origins or finish the job they might have started long ago, we can only speculate.
>>33088613Mercury dragons are deadly creatures indeed, for they have no scales, and move almost as fluidly as creatures of flesh and blood. Heavy and dense, their swinging arms, legs, and tail can do immense damage, and they are expert contortionists, capable of slipping through cracks no larger than a dog or a small child, despite being more than 30 feet from head to tail on average, and standing ten feet high at the shoulder when fully grown.When threatened, they sweat profusely, exuding rivulets of thick, silvery metal. This substance is highly toxic, and kills almost on contact as it slides into the skin. They can also spit globs of metal more than 50 feet with great accuracy, shooting it from a wide tongue curled into a kind of straw. Mercury dragons do not fly, but instead prefer to inhabit pools of water. Lakes inhabited by mercury dragons for a long time fill up with their secretions, becoming lakes of flowing silver. in their element, the dragons are invisible, and many an adventurer has been fooled into thinking they've found a silver treasure, only to be pulled in by an outstretched claw. Mercury dragons are extremely dangerous to many other metallics, corroding them and dissolving their flesh on contact. Other metallics become brittle at a Mercury's touch, crumbling to dust in moments. As such, Mercury dragons are considered apex predators among metallic dragonkind, and most will keep a wide distance away from them. Fire will defeat a Mercury dragon though, melting them away extremely rapidly, and the breath of a Sulfur dragon can also harm them, with time. It is fortunate that the species is rare, otherwise they might represent a real threat to all metallics, and the mortal realms as well.
>>33088978Well, I could write more, maybe, but it seems this thread isn't really attracting much more interest from /tg/. I've been in enough /tg/ homebrew threads to know that one guy can't do everything on his own, because then it's not a community project and no one will give a shit, and even if he wanted to, why would he, it'd just be circlejerking with yourself to an empty room, and that's stupid. If you guys feel like archiving this or developing the setting more in future threads, then I'll certainly try to put more elemental descriptions in, and if this thread picks up a bit, I might have a few more dragons to throw in later. Good luck, guys, and I'm still really impressed with the Osmium drawing from earlier!
>>33089333I've been lurking mostly. Love your work.
>>33089454Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It just gets tiresome feeling like you're doing everything. I don't mind trying to get the ball rolling, because I know that people usually just expect everyone else to do everything and *no one* ever actually starts anything.But, I also know that it's been a complaint lodged with many, many /tg/ homebrews, usually with reference to tripfags, though it's pretty clear which posts are mine in this thread even without one, that one voice dominates the conversation and kills the fun for everyone else. I think there's a lot of potential here, but without other people to share the load, I think I've put forth about as much as I'm willing to, for now anyway.
>>33089557Eh it doesn't help too much that this topic relies on both writing talent and knowledge of chemistry 99% of us haven't even considered thinking about since high school. More general/open topics tend to have far more contributors.
>>33089628To be honest, most of what I did was a quick refresher by remembering what I knew from high school, and brushing up with a quick WIkipedia read to make sure I wasn't ass backwards on the details. Didn't take but 5 or 10 minutes at most, and the rest was a fairly basic extrapolation and exaggeration of what I imagine a nonscientific world might perceive magically enhanced elemental properties, same as anyone else would do for whatever homebrew they were doing.
Bismuth is not that good for casting, it expands as it cools like ice. They actually put it in mini casting alloys like R98 to lessen shrinkage from all the tin.
>>33091009Shoot. I was planning on using silicone molds anyhow, would their flexibility withstand the expansion without causing any defects in the final object?
>>33091009Oh shit, is that the artbro from earlier?
>>33091096Yes, it takes significantly longer for me to 'speedpaint' a picture than write something decent. I'm not the guy doing any of the writeups. >>33091073That will work, you can melt it on a stovetop, too. It doesn't get that hot. Well compared to other stuff like aluminum and bronze anyway. It'll still burn your arm if you splash it on yourself.
>>33091229Yeah, I plan on getting into any kind of metal I can cast in silicone, as I plan on making a lot of molds from a certain Kickstarter project that will be coming out eventually. On a related note, would you think it feasible to implant rare earth magnets into a miniature part (arm, head, waist etc) before casting for swappability?
>>33091316Yeah, that would be possible, but you're fucked if you do the polarity wrong. Bismuth is kind of 'slippery' and doesn't really adhere to stuff like some other metals do. I'd recommend getting some actual tin casting alloy if you're going that route. It'll be cheaper than pure metal of any sort. Unless you have a source of free lead or something, like wheel weights from an auto shop. Lead is great and easy to work with, just do it outside and don't eat your miniatures.
>>33091381Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding- the minis to be magnetized will be resin, and a different project from anything related to bismuth. And thanks for the advice.
>>33091229Speaking as the guy who did most of the writeups, damn good job, man.
>>33091422Oh yeah, in that case the resin should hold it in really well. Unless it's something weird, there's a shitload of different types of resin and I don't know much about them other than the fact that resin universally stinks. I much prefer metal casting.
>>33091977I'm just going to go for the kind from Smooth-On, a two-part something something./diy/ and /tg/ should hang out more often.
Everybody likes bismuth
>>33093596My reaction >>33093678
Thank fucking Glob for layers, all I gotta say. If somebody wants to do a 1d4chan article and put this stuff in it that would be great, so I can go back to it and reference what we have already when it comes time to draw more pictures. I don't think I'm gonna get much else done quality wise tonight, though.
>>33094060>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Periodic_Table_of_DragonsAdding content now
Thanks, more art will be incoming but I am working 11 hour shifts all week so don't hold your breath
>>33093596We should use this for like, the very oldest Bismuths, since the description given was that they're mostly grey, but they have large scales (which i kinda pictured as Stegosaurus-like) that are the bismuth fancy crystals.Still fukken sweet though.
>>33094511I was going by the assumption that they're all at Wyrm age.
>>33094511>>33093596funn fact, bismuth is actually the lightest of the non-isotopic radioactive elements, it's half-life however is estimated to be more than a billion times the current estimated age of the universe. the radiation it gives off is much less than the level of background radiation.
>>33094735You had me worried up until that last sentence
>>33094248Silicon dragons are unusual creatures, having characteristics of both crystal and metal. They are tough and strong, but also lightweight, and have a strange, multifaceted exterior. Their claws and scales are soft and easily fractured when new, looking almost like transparent glass, but as they age, Silicon dragons consume inordinate amounts of coal, plant matter, and anything else with plenty of carbon in it, including animal life. As they process this material, their scales harden, taking on an extremely hard, sharp outer edge that can cut like a razor and withstand incredible strain. Their claws likewise harden, darken, and can slash through armor with ease. Underneath their scales are thick, glutinous pseudomuscles made of a rubbery material, which they can flex a little bit to let off heat from underneath, and raise the scales up so their outer edges face predators. In the wild, Silicon dragons flare these scales up both to look larger, and as a mating display. The dark outer edge and the metallic crystal main body make a striking show. These dragons are very social, forming large groups for protection, and can breathe blasts of fine, glittering powder at their enemies, blinding and choking them. They fly well, and stand about 14 feet high at the shoulder. Silicon dragons love glass and glass sculpture, and share an interesting friendship with the Uranium dragons, making and coloring sculptures of inordinate beauty and grace.
>>33094881Lead dragons are enormous, placid creatures, one of the very bulkiest of the metallic dragons, and aside from very unusual specimens from other species, by far the heaviest. Though other species can be denser, none can match the Leads for sheer mass. For all their size and power, they are fairly disinterested in the mortal world around them, preferring to wander the world in small groups. They make a surprising number of friendships with other metallic dragons, though, and are commonly seen interacting with Arsenic and Phosphorous dragons, to name a few. Leads fight mostly by crushing and bludgeoning, but are rather vulnerable to being stabbed by tougher metals. They exude a poisonous aura, causing rapid brain damage in their foes, and they can concentrate this into a blast of deadly powder that seeps into the skin, killing quickly. Their role in the ecosystem seems to be to prey on the "radiant" species of metallic dragonkind, and they can be seen feasting merrily on Uranium, Thorium, Neptunium and Plutonium dragons with relish. The energy those species produce sloughs off the Leads like water. Though the species bear many similarities, the end for a Uranium dragon is very often being overthrown and consumed by a Lead. For this reason, those mortal kingdoms at risk of attack by "radiants" often court the Leads to assist them, but the Leads are almost as dangerous in their own indirect fashion, and extremely hard to coerce.
>>33095038Also you can make roofing tiles or fishing weights out of their shed scales, depending on the age of the dragon in question.
>>33095038Radium dragons, though closely related to Francium dragons, are their most hated enemies. Nothing makes a Francium more jealous than a dragon almost as energetic as they, but who will live a thousand years instead a thousand days. Radiums are aptly named, and were the first dragon identified to have the "radiant" energy that many breeds are known for. They harness this power in beams of invisible heat, burning and killing their foes. Radiums are predators born, living alone or in mated pairs and roaming the world with tremendous speed. They fly well, they fight well, and they leave nothing where they pass, one of the most aggressive metallics in existence. The Radiums have one great weakness though, their bodies cannot tolerate water, which burns, and even detonates on contact with them. For this reason, their range is limited to desolate areas, and they cannot do much more than short raids into moister climates. Nomads cling to oases for this reason just as much as to use water for themselves, for a Radium dragon could be upon them at any moment. When wounded, Radium dragons have a blindingly pure silver luster in the wound, but it rapidly becomes black and tarnished, like the rest of their bodies. Some desert faiths preach of this as proof that the Radiums burn with the fires of hell, and their hells are filled with invisible death, not the fire and smoke of other religions.
>>33094881can't forget that there is a large demand for silicon dragon genitals on the black market. strangely they are said to have a similar stiffness and feel as the flesh of the organic races.
>>33095038I imagine them being somewhat frog shaped
>>33095201Let's not get too Magical Realm in here, bro.
>>33095201That's silicone, anon.
>>33095224just supposed to be a joke about Dragon Dildos.>>33095241>Underneath their scales are thick, glutinous pseudomuscles made of a rubbery material
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Periodic_Table_of_DragonsCurrently up to date.
>>33095180Carbon dragons are distantly related to the other metallic species, though not considered true "metallics". Jet black in appearance, with only brilliant diamond spikes on their backs, their claws, their teeth, and the tips of their wings and tail to throw light around, they are primarily nocturnal creatures. The lenses of their eyes incorporate diamonds as well, collecting and refracting light into the eye more efficiently than human eyes, allowing them to see in the dark. The Carbon dragons are a very common species, inhabiting a diverse range of climates. Ferocious on the attack, they're downright cowardly on the defensive because their scales are frail, almost crumbly. Inside, they are one of the few Elemental Dragons to have very humanlike muscles, but their blood is a dark, strange-smelling liquid. When set alight, it will burn for hours, and is a valued commodity in the northlands. Carbon dragons are remarkably unintelligent, barely more than clever animals, and they adopt a pack mentality in most things, though they are renowned for using their shed scales to make cave images by scrawling black marks on the walls. The meaning of these marks is unclear, but is a favorite topic of discussion among scholars debating the Carbon's status as intelligent beings. Perhaps as a sign of their distance from the true metallics, Carbons are preyed upon at nearly every opportunity by their larger cousins, who incorporate their essence into their own bodies.
Totally stealing these for my games.
>>33067876Radium Dragons are a brilliant silvery white, their scales violently blackening in air; an apt metaphor for all aspects of their lives.Radium Dragons are compulsive 'justice' seekers, inflicting retribution across the land in oft questionably violent manner. Merely striking a Radium Dragon exposes its true colors momentarily, albeit through a burst of lung-scorching radioactive dust.Perhaps most telling of the Radium Dragon, however, is its telltale pale blue glow, rendering stealth impossible in darkness even despite its matte-black coat. This glow intensifies as it prepares to breathe as well, heralding the blue-white lance of ionizing gas the dragons themselves consider a sign of genetically holy mandates. Several acids, compounds and even water can harm them on contact, but as always the violent effects of such contact may be as hazardous to attackers.Radium Dragons can prove social in the company of like-minded zealots. Makeshift 'knightly orders' of several mating pairs can devastate entire kingdoms with holy righteous fury, but may also break with sudden enraged violence, should individual views of a situation suddenly collide.
>>33095564Alrighty then, guys, I'm glad you all decided to collate the data, and I'm looking forward to seeing maybe some stories to flesh out this alternate universe we've made some of the basic building blocks for. I'm headed to bed now, but I'll check back in the thread tomorrow to see what's happened. I gotta say, I've enjoyed writing these, but it's getting awful hard to create good distinctions between some of the metals now. Hopefully tomorrow I can take a fresh look at things.At the very least, I think the Lanthanide and Actinide series of dragons should be their own families with subtle differences between them, but not so huge that they all need their own entries, since those elements are so similar IRL. And maybe the drawfriend will grace us with more art later also!Either way, just a list of dragon species won't make a real setting, so flesh that out, guys. I know chemistry, but I'm not so good at worldbuilding. See you later.
There's sites like Flight Rising and stuff that have basic nature determined by species and "element" determined by what kind of elemental nest the eggs are laid/hatched in, and are given away by eye color. Fire have orange eyes, water have blue, shadow have purple, etc. The dragosn themselves can be any color or pattern.
So are metallic dragons going to be the core of this setting? If so, I can see this working out well as an Earth elemental setting, or maybe even a large Earth-aligned plane. I'm also imagining some of the more magically oriented species crafting golems of their element, perhaps installing themselves as the leaders of their own societies, perhaps a mining society. I'm also seeing PC races being predominantly humans, dorfs, gnomes, and the like, with draconic bloodlines being more common than other settings. Of course, this depends just how core to the setting the metallics are.Just throwing out ideas as someone who is versed in neither prose nor chemistry.
Cobalt dragons need to be the preginitors of the Kobold race for the rleated name origins. (It was known as Kobold Ore)
>>33095738>>33095782Probably one of the first things that needs doing is deciding on the tone of the setting. Pulling in different directions is going to make it look all junky, like 40k, which can't seem to decide if it wants to be grimdark, grimderp, tongue in cheek, or super serious.Should it be high magic, or low magic?Should it be GRIMDARK, noblebright, varied, or some other option?Should it be a fairly serious setting, or a wildly random setting where crazy shit happens all the time?Are the dragons mostly respectful of actual chemistry, or should we take their traits even more loosely than we have already?Should there be Derp?Should we permit obvious self-inserts?What sort of content standards do we want, and who is to be the judge, and how shall we judge them? All these things are important to at least consider, before everything gets set in stone.
>>33095180>>33095650Careful with the overlap of ideas here, guys, that can make things really chaotic and muddy the waters. It's ok to add on, just try not to introduce conflicts between writings, like how the first guy's Radiums are savage predators, but the second's are more like Paladins of some variety.
It appears that both osmium and lead dragons are by far the heaviest.Which is it?
A major event in the setting definitely needs to the appearance of the Metallics, the Domination of the Copper/Tin Coalition (the Bronze Age), and the later rise of the Iron Age.
>>33096363The way I read it, Osmium's still the densest and heaviest by volume, but the Leads are just physically bigger by a large amount, and therefore have more *total* mass. They're much squisher though, and if I had to guess, they get by more by being intimidating than by being good fighters like the Osmiums could be. That sound logical?
>>33096363Osmium Also all dorfs, humans maybe, everything underground. Basically Earth plane setting would be super cool. There would need to be underground crops and stuff too though I guess.
>>33096447Fungi crops maybe?
>>33096447Many of the dragons definitely seem to live above ground, though, like the ones that live in deserts and what not.
New writer, giving this a shot.>>33095564Calcium dragons have an ominous reputation among the other races. With a pale, chalky-white coloration and a tendency horde the bones of their prey, Calcium dragons held in superstition to be associated with death.Calcium dragons are covered in scaled of the aforementioned chalky white. Great spines of bone grow out of the dragon's spine during adolescence, beginning with small ridges on the tail and culminating in a great crest on the head. These growths are prized for their strength and their light weight. Alchemists have discovered that if one spine is damaged or removed by hunters, the dragon is able to regrow it quickly by consuming a portion of their stash of bones.Incredibly light for their size, Calcium dragons are one of the few species of larger metallics that are capable of regular, long-distance flight. They avoid water, however. Upon contact, their scales begin heat up and dissolve.Contrary to the superstitions associated with them, Calcium dragons support a variety of life. Small crustaceans and mollusks have been found to live on the dragon's hide, making themselves at home by shaping its thick scales into shells, alcoves, and coral-like structures.
>>33097545Not bad. I like the association with coral reefs, that's a cool idea, though i do question how a creature that has to stay away from water can have crustaceans and mollusks living on it.
>>33096424I was thinking something along those lines
>>33097631Well, my thought process was that the dragon would basically have a reef of its own on its back - specially adapted crabs, snails, forms of mussels, etc. There are a lot of species of crustacean and mollusk that don't like in/near bodies of water. In retrospect, though, it does seem kinda weird.
>>33097791Maybe species of insect that use calcium in their shells as well as chitin, if such things exist? Colonies of plants like bromeliads that take in all their nutrients from the air alone? Idk, just be careful that it still has the feel of "calcium".
>>33097827Maybe this is a place where more general is better:They have little critters on them that use the scales for shells.They have other critters that grow off the scales like coral.
>>33097900Sounds good to me.
>>33096178They come out fairly close timewise, it is possible the second was writing when the first posted. Fairly different takes. I prefer the paladin one, attitude-wise myself.
According to Wikipedia, Palladium is good at both storing and purifying Hydrogen; perhaps we can use this.I'm thinking of having Palladium dragons predominantly living in water, using a strange organ to split water into its component parts, possibly using the Hydrogen for... well, I haven't gotten that far yet.
>>33097827Calcium's biggest danger is that should the queen atom leave the nest, the effects would be disastrous. This is known as the Helvetica Scenario.
>>33098053Combine the hydrogen with their aquatic evolution being parallel to pistol shrimp.Fusion Cannon.
>>33098053Hydrogen can be either a lifting gas, or a flame source. Interesting fact, hydrogen burns with a nearly invisible flame, emitting a lot of UV radiation.
>>33098053They like to write extremely detailed RPG sourcebooks but refuse to use a computer to do so, instead relying on scissors, paste, and a photocopier. Hydrogen burns with a really hot nearly invisible flame, so there's that?
>>33098087Actual nuclear fusion is a little over the top, i think. Hydrogen flame is probably enough. Hell, they could even have gas vents and nozzles on their underside to pull a rocket assisted takeoff.
>>33098053Hydrogen is the most buoyant element there is. If they live in water, that could be used to help them move through water better.And if it can separate water into its constituent parts, why not use it to breathe a fire that turns to water vapor? They could be especially dangerous considering they wouldn't give off any sulfurous/strong odor to indicate their presence.
>>33098087>eat rock/other object>ignite internal hydrogen explosion>rock gets expelled at high speeds>>33098088I hadn't thought of it as a lifting gas. This is probably a core part of how it swims.
>>33095564You only got two allotropes of carbon, which is fine, those are the naturally occurring bits.I still demand some crazy wizard make a Nanotube dragon or god forbid; a Graphene dragon.
>>33098159Hydrogen burns readily, but not particulatrly explosively or with much force. It's not a very good propellant, because it doesn't produce gas when it burns, but mostly compressible water valor.
>>33098087So a pistol-shrimp claw-like tongue; they swallow shit more or less whole or crush it beak-like given motherfucking dragons have tough jaws.When exhaling its breath weapon (primarily the liquefied hydrogen), what should be a simple hydrox flame puff is initiated by the sparker-tongue.Not ignited. Initiated. The ensuing plasma shockwave means that while nowhere near as dense or powerful as uranium/plutonium physically, palladium dragons have the same breath weapon, but can only sustain continued fire for a minute or so, as opposed to hours.
>>33098161We'll get there when we get there. Patience, friend, there's much to do, clearly. Also, I'm not sure we want to get too high tech here, at least at the beginning. Don't want to exclude the anons who might write well, but don't know the more advanced chem, after all.
>>33098123>other listed dragons fire nuclear explosions for hours on endI don't think you need to worry.
>>33098176It's still good enough in large amounts to get a heavy lifter into orbit.
>>33096113I'm gonna suggest the tone as "Neutral-Scaly."Mostly serious and naturalistic, magic present throughout but low-key, a fact of life rather than an earth shaking wonder.Stick to chemistry except where it would be cooler to fudge it.
>>33098201Well, nuclear energy comes out naturally, and I don't think those were actual nuclear bombs going off so to speak, but rather more concentrated radiation emission in a single direction. Fusion is a much more high-energy, high-tech, futuristic thing, is all.
>>33098176Must've misinterpreted that then.So are these dragons going to be sea serpents or dragon-shaped dragons who use their vestigial wings as flippers?
>>33098219>When angered, they can release a blast of heat and light of truly immense proportions, enough to shatter a city's walls or incinerate an army, and they can sustain this force for hours if need beNo, it's very much a mach front at the least.
>>33098213Well, i guess if Palladium dragons are the size of the Space Shuttle, then yeah, maybe. It produces *thrust*, but it's better as a sustained force for rocket launches than as a detonating device. Long term pushes are good for rockets, not so good for guns, you dig? It's a great fuel partly because we can compress it so much in those big supercooled tanks, and carry a lot with us.
>>33098219You mean that thing that stars have been doing since before the earth was a twinkle in the Sunfather's eye?
>>33098246>>33098275Mmk then. Just keep in mind how much more difficult fusion in *non-stellar* bodies is IRL than nuclear fission. It's wasier to see how something made of fantasy-uranium could produce nuclear effects than something trying to compress enough hydrogen to make a meaningful fusion reaction, is all im getting at here.
>>33094881>>33067876>anon asks for an impossible consensus on what dragon colors do>200 posts later, several kickass images and a setting based on goddamn Periodic Table dragons is aborning. Good job, guys, keep it up.
>>33098326Welcome to /tg/
>>33098255Very different... forms of using it. Burning it is a sustained force for rocket launches.Detonating it, kinda meh.Initiating fusion is a completely different story.
>>33098365Yeah, I'm saying it's a perfectly good fuel, because we can easily control it, and sustain the push. It doesn't burn explosively enough for the quick, sharp shock you need to propel a bullet from a gun at useful velocities, without some special circumstances like a very large gun, Jules Verne style. It could easily be an aid to dragon flight, but i don't think it'd make them very good ballistics users. The pyrite dragons described earlier are, though, crossbreed between sulfur and iron or something, because gunpowder.
>>33095038> the end for a Uranium dragon is very often being overthrown and consumed by a LeadThat's a clever way to reference the fact that many decay chains end in lead. Very nicely done.
>>33098402Might wanna look up light gas guns.However, a small fusion detonation, like what happens with pistol shrimp from imploding bubbles, well it actually exists in nature. Certainly that could be the basis of a breath weapon.
>>33098326Not what I intended, was just curious about commonly used dragon colors.Pretty ecstatic with how things are going.
Honestly, I'd like to avoid using the hydrogen for fusion; as other anons have stated, it is much harder to do than fission, even with fantasy bullshit. The Sun works because it's literally an enormous ball of Hydrogen compressing itself extremely hard with gravity. Plus it takes away from the whole aquatic dragon theme. I'm not sure how I feel about hydrogen-powered fire breath, as it's overused and may not function well in water. I'm thinking providing buoyancy is probably a good primary use.
Fresh writer, I think a lot of potential is being missed with Carbon, so here's my alternate take on it. Ignore it, use it instead, meld the two, let's just keep this great periodic table going.Carbon Dragons are a very resilient species. Not through any physical might, in fact they are born with brittle scales that can crumble with ease, however, they breed easily with other species and can even catenate hybrids that normally can not mix. This has made their bloodline endure to this day.Their primary means of attack is a fire breath that makes up for in endurance what it loses in heat, as a flammable black fluid they produce can infuse the fire with the ability to stay alight for long periods of time. They are also virtually immune to any fire or heat themselves, as it only serves to harden their scales. They often reside in caves beneath the earth or deep in mountains, often near natural lava flows that they drink and bathe from.When they are young, the Carbon Dragon has quickly shedding scales that can be used as an effective fuel source, making them highly sought after to be tamed or hunted. As they mature, however, grooming with flame and natural changes leads to a harder coat of scales that shed less frequently. It is only the oldest and purest blooded Carbon Dragons that live to become Diamond Dragons, their coat hard and nigh unbreakable from ages of tempering and hardening of their scales. There is no record of a pureblooded Carbon Dragon dying of old age.Their weakness in youth does them no favors though and pureblooded dragonlings are often either hunted down for a firy meal, or taken in by Iron Dragons, who have a peculiar protective nature around the Carbon Dragons. The hybrids of the two being Steel Dragons, which are born with harder scales and can mature to have strength greater than either parent.
>>33084441I don't quite know about dragons, but you could always use something like the Wyvern as a subset if you can't think of another monster. The Perspective with exaggerated sensory organs and a lack of claws or sharp fangs as they can see vaguely into other creatures minds, the swift and bipolar Iambus with a repeating patterned coat, I imagine the Allusion would be almost like a chameleon and be associated with magic.
Vanadium is found often in animals as a toxin; however, it never appears naturally as a metal, and is almost always used as part of alloys, commonly with iron. We could probably give Vanadium dragons a toxic breath weapon. They'd be exceedingly rare, even more so due to a tendency to breed with Iron dragons, producing gold-hued offspring.
>>33099007maybe have them be aquatic early on in life, then, GROWTHSPURT and they grow a lot of loose skin and turn into blimps that spend most of their time in the clouds and the tallest mountains
>>33103257That's certainly creative
>>33067876In my setting, black dragons are the most powerful because dragon scales dull with age. Thus the oldest and biggest dragons are black dragons.
I NEED rules for all these Metal Dragons. Throwing a Francium Dragon at my D&D group would be the best thing ever.
Hydrogen dragons are an unusual breed. At an early age they are little more than sea serpents, unintelligent and voracious.Once they reach adolescence they begin to grow extremely quickly, putting on as much as a foot of length in a single day. However, the most unusual thing that happens is that during this growth spurt is that they begin to grow massive amounts of excess skin, enough to cover themselves ten or fifteen times over. During this time their appetite increases to truly legendary proportions; a hydrogen dragon has been known to eat an entire whale in a single day, and will happily eat the same again the next day. What happens next is a mystery, for they dive deep into the ocean and do not surface again until they are fully grown.A fully grown hydrogen dragon is a truly enormous creature, dwarfing all other breeds in terms of volume. However, they are unbelievably light for their size, swimming through the air like a fish through water. Known to follow storm clouds, there are accounts of them deliberately getting struck by lightning, though determining the purpose of this has proven difficult. According to other sources, a hydrogen dragon deprived of lighting will eventually sink to the earth and will be unable to fly until struck again.Certain rare types are known to glow in the dark and give off the same deadly force as the Radiant types, though in lesser quantities.*****And here is where I've been staring at the screen for ten minutes.
>>33103726I was going to try to find a picture to go with my mental image, but "fat dragon" and "balloon dragon" bring up some nasty-ass results
>>33103762I was picturing a blimp with a dragon head on the fore and a tail on the aft
>>33067876I've always liked the notion of "Dragon" being a family of species rather than only one, and if we go off of that, different types of dragons would probably have different shapes and stuff as well.I've never liked it when a uses color alone to distinguish between types of dragons. It feels uncreative and unoriginal. It also bugs me when the primary difference between different types of dragons is elemental affinity. Whenever I see stuff like that I always end up saying to myself "seriously guys, just grow an imagination already" or something to that effect.And what do you know, I just saw How to Train Your Dragon 2 theatrically yesterday. That setting is really diverse in the draconic department -- after all, dragons ARE the core of the premise.One design I liked in particular was a dragon that had a second pair of wings in place of forelegs -- it really drives home the fact that wings ARE limbs, so the traditional depiction of the dragons has six limbs.
>>33103872the bait is subtle in this one.
>>33068955>Mercury dragonIt's like a constantly seeping poisonous lizard that looks like a shapeshiftng slime attempting to take the form of a dragon but failing halfwayEncounters result in early death, insanity, and all offspring are on the autistic spectrum.Which is a terrifying combination when you consider regular dragon personality with the Autist template placed on top, making them almost unfeeling machine like beings.
>>33067876>People forgetting Humans can only see a fraction of the color spectrum A pistol shrimp knows of Dragon races never encountered because we can't see them, or worse, are mistaken for elderitch horrors because all that behold them mentally break down one way or another with the brain trying to process the nonexistent color.
>>33103920they'd most likely just appear black, you dingus.
>>33084630The heavier the metal, the bigger the corresponding dragon.
>>33104975I thought it was 'the more common the metal, the larger the dragon.'
>>33097545Maybe their physiology could take cues from the bearded vulture.It's a bone eater after all, it'd look cool. Like a alabaster avian day-of-the-dead mascot
>>33104975>>33105011Neither is true. Osmiums are the densest, and some of the toughest fighters, but Leads are far larger overall, and mass more. As a general rule of thumb, the dragon's physical size follows no pattern based on element, nor does the rarity of the element significantly determine the rarity of the dragon. The setting is based on chemical natures and essences, not adhering to any hard and fast rules, for the most part. >>33103893We already did mercury, bro. >>33103743So far, we've done metals and metalloids only, but this is good enough that maybe we consider expanding the dragons to the whole periodic table, including gasses.
>>33103920A pistol shrimp's vision isn't that great. You're thinking of mantis shrimp
>>33098161Wizard? No man, it's regular folks breeding and domesticating them like farm animals. Creating very unintelligent but trainable, loyal and broken powerful products.Steel dragons don't happen in nature much either, humans engeneer dragon crossbreeding
>>33105164Calcium dragons are four-limbed, their front limbs function as their wings, a few digits stretch to become their white, recognizable, wings but they still have enough left to function as paw or hand.The skeletal beaked head almost has an inorganic feel to it but the neck and shoulders are be adorned by beautifully colored coral in between pronounced spikes and ridges. The ridges continue farther down the body but populated by much less colorful black molluscs and clams.When feeding the calcium dragon will insert it's entire head in the scavenged corpse and eat the bones out from in-between the flesh.
Requesting the brightest of them all - Magnesium dragon.
>>33106005>Requesting the brightest of them all - Magnesium dragon.You want bright shining light, and you go for a fucking firecracker instead of the Sun's own?
>>33106054>Implying the Noble Dragons would deign to interact with ANYONE, let alone a mortal.
>>33067876I've always been of the opinion that if you're dragons come in multiple "flavors" you're doing it wrong. Except maybe fore oriental and occidental versions.
>>33106163The noble dragons don't exist, only the most fervent fringe hunters even believe in them
>>33106005Magnesium dragons are one of the stronger and lighter metallic dragons, silvery-white they produce a remarkably bright white flame, the use of wich attracts their family as they usually live quite close to each other and associate the light of their breath weapon with dire situations and danger. So besides a weapon it's an alarm too, immediately calling back-up for the fight.Most immediate cousins to the magnesium dragon within the metal family are actually quite vulnerable to oxygen, magnesium dragons have a natural immunity negating the alkali weakness though, although it can be temporarily undone by certain spells.Magnesium dragons are quite fearsome, among all dragons they can hold continuous fire the longest, indeed even having trouble stopping and have a mixture of toughness and lightness that's great for high altitude flight.Magnesium dragons are very similar to aluminum dragons in build and personality can often live near them without conflict.
>>33103743Hydrogen dragons produce a blinding flame which is believed to be used in mating rituals, though these take place inside of storm clouds and are rarely seen anywhere else.They are notoriously difficult to hunt, given the altitudes they live at, though it is possible to find one that has been downed by bad luck. Even after finding one there is little to gain from them beyond a large amount of extremely tough leather. The gas inside of their hides escapes through the smallest puncture and should it be exposed to a flame a large explosion will result. If sufficiently startled they will produce a brilliant flame of sufficient force to launch them several hundred meters into the air, though reports of this ability should be considered anecdotal at best.
Tin Dragons are the empire builders, dedicated to working in countless mundane tasks while not demanding the levels of recognition that dragons typically impose. Most notably, Tin dragons worked closely with Copper dragons during the Bronze Age, happy to work with them to create all varieties of tools that brought the mortal realms to new heights. Despite losing these empires to the tides of Iron Dragons, the Tin do not begrudge them for it, or hold many grudges at all.Tin Dragons are among the most stable dragons both chemically and emotionally. An adventurer may find them participating in any one of countless jobs from plumbing to librarianship to agriculture and more. Among other dragons their austerity and humbleness brings a calming effect: it was only through their efforts that the War of Iron did not end in total genocide.Tin Dragons grow to be relatively large, approaching nearly twice the height and six times the heft of iron and copper dragons. Despite their bulk, they make poor fighters even when they overcome their pacifistic nature, even lacking a breath weapon.Despite their own resistance to and ability to prevent corrosion and corruption in other dragons, Tin Dragons themselves can find themselves host to a number of maladies. Most commonly, before a tin dragon warms up in the morning their scales and joints produce an iconic crackling sound known as "tin cry", which dissipates as the dragon continues to move around. If a Tin Dragon finds himself in situations of undue stress, physically or emotionally, they can develop "tin whiskers", which are small hairlike growths on the scales. This too is harmless and can be removed with a simple polish, but can cause itching on the dragons part and contribute to the already present stress.Far more lethal is "tin pest", a form of necrosis caused by cold temperatures. The condition is easily cured if spotted early, but if left alone the dragon will break out into dark grey splotches & rot to death
>>33106713tl;dr, Tin Dragons are a bunch of This Guys that would rather help fix your spoons and knives than going around toppling societies or eating princesses. Hell, an adventuring party might bump into one as a wandering tinker as much as anything else.
Disgusting reptiles.Everyone know rust dragon best.
>>33103872If we're talking about D&D, it distinguishes between True Dragons and the Dragon family, which includes wywerns and other draconic-creatures as well.
Ok bit of a bump but I saw this last night before going to bed. Instantly loved the idea and it neatly solved a slight problem i had come across in my own pointless eternal homebrew. I cut all halfbreeds from the world except magic wibbily ones becuase "normal" halfbreeds never sat right with me. I was loath to lose half dragon types however as there is so much work already done on this area in 3.5 and they are sort of integral to some ideas. I was working with the idea of dragons being some kind of genetic ancestor to all races, but wasn't very happy with it.>>33105224>>33103743Akin to this soon as I saw this thread I instantly saw the potential to expand the idea t the whole periodic table. It even brings back the split between metalics and chromatics. It also solves my problem as now dragons become more magicy and get to claim some bullshit about being the fundemental elements of all matter, thus able to breed with "all" matter.
>>33106982Now that's an idea, Rust, Patina, or other forms of corrosion being the Undead of the periodic dragons.
>>33107580pretty lame undead though... you can literally crumble rust in your hand
>>33107647That's how they get into your blood and create more of their kind.
>>33107657hrm... this has potential
>>33107647>>33107657The strength would be like all undead, quantity over quality.Hell, this might mean Oxygen dragons can act like fucking liches and oxidize Iron dragons, then it just carries on from there.Potential to stop an Iron Empire sometime in history?
>>33107657I mean if we're being technical blood kinda already is liquid rust, it's how oxygen gets to all of our cells.
>>33107657>>33107712though there would have to be some kind of assimilation happening, since there's only about 15g of iron in any one person. Maybe the infection induces pica in organics
How about graphene dragons?
>rough draft of an idea incoming, let me know what you thinkThe Corroded are the bane of all dragons, save the Oxygens who are rumored to create them. They do not possess the strength of the pure elements and alloys, instead relying on numbers and the fact that they can infect organic species to create more of their kind when unCorroded dragons are unavailable.By infecting the blood of an organic species through small particles of their scales that are inevitably given off when they are killed, they can induce the desire to eat substances that are not nourishing to the organic, but instead serve as raw material for the creation of a new Corroded.
ITT: The Expanded Compendium of Mirrodin's Native Dragons. Seriously, I'm running a planeswalker game of D&D and this shit WILL turn up when they inevitably hit Mirrodin.
I think they should have to inflict damage to pass it on, otherwise you have a pandemic scenario sooner or later
>>33108019Yeah, and I like the idea of patina'd silver and copper dragons way too much for it to be such a spreadible disease.Maybe the Corroded have to tear their way to a Dragon's heart and corrupt it at its very core before the Corrosion overtakes them.
>>33108019or they have only a certain number of attempts to do so, like, porcupine quills or something that stick in their opponent and dissolve to cause the infection
>>33108073or maybe gold, silver and copper are immune or highly resistant, the more reactive elements being easier to corrupt
>>33108121Which is why so many dragons court the Tin Dragons as a "non-precious" Corrosion resistant dragon, and part of the reason they're so bro-tier.
>>33084608>Rain causes their flesh to bubble and sear, and is extremely painful. For this reason, water is the weapon of choice against them.SKR hates you for this.
>>33107881Carbon dragons were already done.
>>33108210>>33107881Graphene could be an artificially breed dragon. Both of the writings for it show them as things humans could domesticate.
Anyone willing to do one of those screencap things of all the dragon descriptions in this thread? Can look at doing it myself but not really sure where to start. Would be nice if somebody competent took the task on.
>>33108317>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Periodic_Table_of_DragonsJust put it all in here.I think only tin and magnesium are still missing.
>>33108365Oh and calcium
>>33108365Found the link amidst the thread just after I posted. Thanks a lot Anon.
>>33105224For the record, Tungsten is denser than Osmium. They probably have some ability involving being able to produce brilliant flashes of light, searing the air around them.
>>33108365not including Hydrogen then?
>>33103803I'm picturing something chrono cross tier weird looking
>>33101525After gaining a thin layer of oxidization, Vanadium is highly resistant to further corrosion. We could probably have them be viewed controversially; some dragons look upon them with revulsion for freely allowing some corrosion to take place, while others view them as another species resistant to the corrosion that crossbreeds with Iron and Titanium more often than their own breed.
>>33103257As cool as that sounds, I feel they work better as sea serpents or as amphibious.
>>33108699Most metals work this way.
>>33108722b-but muh zeppelins... and besides, they're a lighter-than-air element
>>33108596I kinda see this but more blimpy/whaleish
>>33108847We're talking about Palladium, right?
>>33108476Osmium is the densest naturally occurring element, with a density of 22.59 g/cm3.Tungsten is 19.3 g/cm3.
>>33108931hydrogen... I went off on a tangent when I saw 'fusion/fission'
>>33108365Scandium and Copper could use some expansion, too.>>33108507The gaseous elements are something we should consider carefully, since it's harder to justify a dragon made of vapor, as the metallics are made of metal. Just breathing their relevant gas doesn't seem distinctive enough, and wouldn't follow the pattern of the others, you know?
>>33108931Until it falls and becomes blackguardium, yeah.
>>33108992please see >>33103743 and >>33106530
I had an idea that started to develop in my head while reading this thread for a setting, and have been trying to develop it in my head over the last hour, but in the end, I think I'm going to can that idea because it doesn't really jive with making these atomic dragons the centerpiece of the setting (it had them as well as as elemental dragons, psychic dragons, and mana dragons), which I feel would end up disappointing or not sitting well with most of the anons here.So unless someone wants to hear out my bad idea, I'm going to start fresh, and if I'm starting fresh, it's probably best to do it with you all so we can collectively make something agreeable. I kind of want to avoid the Earth Plane idea that was passingly mentioned before, because having a Plane of Earth implies planes for elements like Fire, Water, Air, etc., and then we've got an Earth plane where the vast majority of these dragons would be found, a Water Plane and Air Plane where a small handful live, and then a Fire Plane that would just be empty. Besides, I think it'd be neat to do something different that the usual element-based cosmological setup.When I think about these dragons, reading the descriptions that our writing chemistryfriend has provided, I imagine a pretty huge world. It would need to be, because it's going to have to have a lot of variety in climate, topography, and landscape in order to have all the different kinds of environments these different dragon species would prefer. The large amounts of open space would also be fitting, since many of the draconic species will probably command large territories, the most social types aside. As for those most social types, I can see them mingling in cities or having their own communities. Examples of this are the iron dragons that were mentioned before to be great smiths. I personally would like to see this as a slightly modern-fantasy setting, rather than DnD-style pure fantasy.
>>33109061Strontium dragons are curious beasts, with a soft, silvery metal flesh that rapidly tarnishes to a dull yellow exterior. They are a fairly common species, fairly small and delicate, often seen in concert with "radiant" dragons for reasons that defy explanation, as the "radiants" mostly ignore the Strontium's presence. The species is distinguished by the globular nature of its scales, which begin broad and smooth at the scale root, but gnarl, twist, and develop nodules at the edges. These nodules fall off easily, as a defensive mechanism against anything that tries to eat a Strontium dragon. When ingested by most mortal creatures, the water in their bodies causes an explosive reaction that kills the predator. The most aggressive risk takers among the species even carry vials of water upon their person, despite the hazard, and will place scale nodules coated with a thin sheet of oil inside, throwing them at the enemy. As the oil sloughs off, an explosion occurs. More than one Strontium dragon has blown off their own arm through careless use, however. They have an antagonistic relationship with Calcium dragons, and the two species compete closely for food, territory, and resources. Their flame is a brilliant orange-red, and their burn marks are often confused with the attack of a Red dragon, though the two species are visually distinct. The species is vulnerable both to water, and to attack by stronger metals, and as such has adapted an opportunistic predatory nature. A Strontium dragon will lie in wait for hours before making its move, because if it makes a mistake, tragedy often ensues.
I still prefer the idea that Iron Dragons would among the most experimental, with a cocky independent streak (We may not be as strong as some, but we don't need to be when we'll surround you and outsmart you) and the idea that Steel Dragons do not come from crossbreeding but from Iron Dragons tampering with their own bodies
>>33108992Technicaly all gases have solid and liquid forms too. Admittadly it needs stupid low temprutures but as we are talking dragons that might be handwaveable.
>>33109211Manganese dragons are among the middleweights of the true metallics, with thick scales that each have a large hemispherical stud of thickened metal in the center. They enjoy the water, though they cannot remain in it for prolonged periods, and their skin is distinguishable by the wide range of colors it takes upon exposure to air. After shedding scales, the dragon is shiny and metallic, but the scales darken rapidly, becoming a multihued swirl of pinks, purples, greens and blues. Shed scales are a valued trade commodity, and find use in pigments around the worlds. Manganese dragons commonly interbreed with Aluminum and Iron dragons, as is typical for those profligate breeds, but the most interesting crossbreed comes when a Manganese produces a child with a Zinc dragon.Those crossbreeds generate powerful internal electricity, and can store vast quantities of it inside their bodies, to be unleashed at need. Though dangerous, wizards love the crossbreeds for their utility in assisting with experiments, and commonly hire or contract with them for that work. As a result, many Manganese dragons pick up some basic magical skills by observing their children, and carve spellbooks into their hard, durable skin.
>>33109282If the setting has humans then they would be the ones experimenting with dragon genetics, as they do with chemistry and alloys in the real world.Iron and copper would be the ones most interested in human plans.
>>33109336Well, the Ybacuo tribe mentioned way up the thread with Yttrium dragons is based on one of the better superconductors. Gaseous dragons might favor the far edges of the plane, either in the far polar regions if we're not going with multiple Elemental Planes, like Ice, or they're near the border of Earth and Ice if they are. They can't come to warmer climes lest they dissolve and fall apart, but they rule the cold climates where metallics become brittle and shatter. Sound good?
>>33109348Why the hell would dragons let mortals interfere in their breeding practices? Just about every dragon presented so far is intelligent, they're doing their own selective breeding to ensure healthier offspring.
>>33109344Thallium dragons are rare and dangerous beasts, heavy and powerful, with unusually well-developed wings for one of the larger metallics. Reasons for why this species retained much of its power to fly, when most of the heavier metallics abandoned flight, remain unclear. Their flame is very distinctive, blazing a brilliant, almost unnaturally green flame. Beyond its natural danger from heat, the flame carries with it vaporized particles of the Thallium's inner nature, which are extremely toxic and leave a deadly residue behind. It is wise for a kingdom to appease a Thallium dragon, for their wrath can have repercussions for generations. A pleased Thallium dragon will share its scales, which when ground up and applied carefully protect against rats and insects, sparing communities from disease and starvation. In this way, some primitive tribes revere Thalliums as harsh yet benevolent agricultural spirits, and many homes have small statues of Thallium dragons, which they believe will ward off harmful spirits just as they ward off vermin. The Thalliums themselves care little for the opinions of mortals, but they never refuse an offering of food, and consider themselves honor bound to reciprocate the favor.
>>33109541One of the few metallic dragons which will venture into the colder regions of the world, Curium dragons are strange, reclusive beasts. They are rarely seen, either by design or by simple rarity, and very little is known about them. What little has been recorded mostly describes the pale purple aura surrounding their bodies, and the intense heat that staves off even the harshest winter storms. They move unopposed wherever they go, and when they attack, survivors are few and far between. Some theorize that when the aurorae wax strong, the Curium dragons appear, but no definite correlation has been observed. Those that seek these dragons usually see nothing, or never return.
>>33109516Dragon breeding is the blacksmithing of this world.Some elements are hard to work with and disagreeable but things like iron have a natural relationship with humans.They know that human understanding of genetics can make their offspring strong.
>>33109696This is not How To Train Your Atomic Dragon. I'm liking the mystery and the indifferent nature of most of these dragons. It seems to fit with them being more forces of nature than things that commonly interact with humans, especially since so many of them are toxic, radioactive, or capable of smashing armies with their bodies.
>>33109696This isn't that high tech of a setting, dude. Maybe one or two particularly long lived wizards of achieved a Mendel-type understanding of how these dragons work, breed, and crossbreed, but I really doubt most humans have any idea why the hell a Radium dragon kills them without touching them, or an Iron dragon crossbreeds with so many types.
>>33109787>I really doubt most humans have any idea why the hell a Radium dragon kills them without touching them, or an Iron dragon crossbreeds with so many types.I think the answer to both those is fairly clear: magic.
this thread is so based/tg/ you are so wonderful sometimes
>>33109787>This isn't that high tech of a setting, dude.It could be, it'd be required if you want to showcase a lot of the different and unique dragons in a single game.Visit different habitats all over the world. Fly around in your helicopter, have epic areal battles. Come up with complicated prep-time plans for fighting the weirdly powered ones.Could be fun.
>>33109679Rubidium and Cesium dragons are very closely related subspecies, both reacting very violently to water, and both living in extremely isolated, cold deserts. Assumed to be the result of a disadvantageous mutation that left the species overspecialized, they cannot tolerate heat or moisture, and have very soft flesh by the standards of metallics, barely tougher than human skin.Their populations are small by necessity, for there are few regions they can inhabit, and few predators they can overcome. Though the two species look similar, their flames give them away. Cesium dragons give off a blue-violet flame, and Rubidiums produce a brilliant peach-red. These dragons interact extremely rarely with any other species out of fear of injury and moisture, and even with each other, socializing is uncommon. Only a few human explorers have ever encountered these dragons. Their strangest quirk is the obsessive need of Cesium dragons to keep time, probably caused by a recessive genetic trait. They are brilliant makers of sundials, and every Cesium dragon has one at all times.
>>33095564Dragon scales change with age, so I'm thinking that a Carbon dragon would be black at the wyrmling stage, then would pale with age (looking like an uncut diamond) until the Great Wyrm stage, where it would resemble a diamond.Natural AC bonuses go up in age as well, but maybe the wyrmling has abnormally low AC, and the Great Wyrm has an insane natural AC bonus.
>>33110024I liked the idea of a Carbon dragon showcasing different aspects of carbon, hence the scales being a brittle coal-like substance, and the claws and such being harder diamond. If I could go back and do it again, I would have added on that the backs of the Carbon dragons wings are coated in graphene, and they take in solar energy in some way, and their bones would be carbon fiber/nanotubes, cause I liked the idea that one anon had of using graphene and nanotubes, but I don't like the idea of humans creating those dragons. At least for the dragons I wrote about, they weren't really written with a particular desire to adhere to D&D styles of how dragons level up.
>>33109951I agree, and I think it'd be pretty interesting to have to deal with dragons romping around in a modern, technically-advanced setting.
>>33109961Neptunium dragons have little love for their close cousins, the Uranium and Plutonium dragons. Descended from common ancestors with the Uraniums, they rebelled against them and separated millennia ago, and the two species carry a grudge against one another to this day. Neptuniums hate Plutoniums because they are the youngest child, embraced by their elders, whereas Neptuniums, the elders, are shunned. As a result of this ancient feud, the three species react violently when near each other, and their duels have forged legends in many mortal races mythologies. Most of the time Neptuniums keep to themselves, forced to the farther fringes of metallic territory because the combined strength of the Uraniums and Plutoniums keeps them contained. Neptuniums are one of the few "radiant" dragons that enjoys interacting with humankind, and was responsible for the depletion of the Boron species, killing them and presenting them to warlike human, orcish, and even kings so that the Neptuniums could lead their armies without killing their allies. In this way, modern Neptuniums are seeking to rally the younger races to their aid, and finally redress their ancient grudges. What the other metallics may do, particularity the Lead dragons, is an issue of hot debate among the younger races.
>>33110328Just as Uranium and Plutonium dragons birth Francium dragons once in a great while, so too do Neptuniums give rise to the rare and mysterious Astatines. Astatines live slightly longer than Franciums, blazing with internal energy, but unlike the extroverted, angry, and aggressive Franciums, the dark black Astatines are very morose creatures, consumed with their impending mortality. When they can be roused to action, they are fierce fighters, but generally, this only occurs when their Neptunium parents call them to war against other metallics, as Astatines have no natural predators aside from the occasional hungry Lead. The Astatines can breathe a dark, black-purple gas, which ignites the air around it with a terrible heat. It is corrosive, but most substances are ignited first, rather than dissolved.
>>33110117>their bones would be carbon fiber/nanotubesThat makes more sense than what I was thinking people were saying.I thought that when they were talking about the nanotubes, they meant that the whole dragon would be made of nanotubes. But I like the idea of their bones, etc. made of them.
>>33110328*elven kings*>Neptuniums hate Plutoniums because they are the youngest child, embraced by their elders, whereas Neptuniums, the elders, are shunned. That sentence reads poorly, it should be something like, "Neptuniums are the eldest of the Uranium children, estranged from the family, and they hate Plutoniums, the younger siblings, who are beloved by their parents.
>>33110674That was an interpretation I shared with what they were saying, also. Carbon exists in many forms, which can be integrated into a single "Carbon" dragon, but if we open the gateway to different subspecies for different forms of the same element, at the very least I'd have to go back and split the multiple allotropes of Phosphorous dragons into their own entries, and I really don't want to do that, you know?
>>33110544Tantalum dragons are uncommon, related closely to Osmium dragons and sharing many of their high density, high strength, high thermal tolerance natures. They have a beautiful blue-gray sheen, allowing them to be distinguished from their fellows, and they take great pride in their appearance.Their scales are unusual among the metallic dragons, broad at the base and sharply tapering to an extremely long, slender point, with some scales being as long as two or three feet. If you can break the scale spike off, they make excellent swords and spear tips, and are highly sought after worldwide. Shed scales are greedily harvested. They have a strange fascination with Platinum dragons, and seem to be somewhat in awe of them. Humans have tried to unravel this riddle for generations, but the Tantalums keep their secrets well. Tantalums get along well with mortal races, and in collaboration with a prestigious college of wizardry, their scale spikes have even been used to replace shattered bones. Many medical facilities bear the emblem of a Tantalum dragon.
>>33110974Ok, this thread's up to over 300 responses, so I think it's about to autodelete or something, right? Probably oughta collate the new material, and consider archiving this thread, putting the new stuff on 1d4chan, and maybe making a new thread, I dunno. For the moment, I'm out of new ideas, but maybe after dinner I'll take another crack at the ones we haven't done yet. I'm enjoying this guys, although you all do need to decide what direction we're going with this setting, tech wise. I intentionally wrote as much of my stuff as possible with the idea that radioactivity and atomic structure isn't understood by the younger races, to allow for going either a high-tech "these dragons are mysterious" angle, or a low-tech "science really isn't a thing yet" angle. Choose what you like best, but do come to a consensus.
>>33111200http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Periodic_Table_of_Dragonsand it's on autosage, which means that each new reply won't bump it to the top of the page, it'll get deleted eventually, but we still have an hour at least
ok, 1d4chan is up to date so far
>>33111490Kickass, dude, thanks. Now if the artbro shows up and drops some dragon images on us, this'll have been a very successful day.
Yeah its going down. Somebody update the wiki with the stuff after calcium
>>33111515Srawfag here.I'm actually at work phoneposting and won't get home for a few more hours. If there's not a new thread by then I'll post one if I get a picture doneJ
>>33111532just archived at suptg because it's too good to lose
>>33111490Some sound a little disjointed. I think you have two different radium definitions in there.
>>33111853We do. One that's more of a paladinesque, crusader interpretation, one that's more of an OH GOD WHY ARE THEY SO FAST AND WHY IS MY SKIN BUBBLING fast-attack predator interpretation.
>>33111609There's also a double for carbon, up in the thread, maybe put both interpretations of that and radium up so we don't lose anything?
>>33112482thanks, I missed that one
>>33112482Well, at some point I'm going to redo my original interpretation of Carbon to include carbon fiber/nanotube bones and graphene in/on the wings, but I'll probably do that in the next thread, assuming there is one, but yeah, go ahead and store everything.We do risk a lot of legacy clutter and canonical conflicts if people wind up doubling or tripling up on things a lot, but hopefully it won't be a problem. Just something to keep in mind.
New thread >>33112739