The foggy winter of the South passes and warm Spring comes. Lu Bu manages to gather a strong host of troops with his fame and promises of glory to the young men of Jian Ye and the outlying towns and villages. You are paid your salary (+75 gold) and make preparations to march out as Lu Bu hands you half the army to conquer Wang Lang. Before you march out, you decide to check the markets.

You have 185 taels of gold on hand, what do you wish to purchase?

>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>Rattan Armor: 150 gold (+1 War, Very strong and light against blades and arrows. More injuries from fire however, and you look like a barbarian)
>Black Blaze: 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)
>Champion: 150 gold (Horse, +1 Lead, slightly fast and strong)
>White Mark 200 (Horse, +1 War, fast and strong)
>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
>Treaties on the State: 150 gold (+5 Pol)
>Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)
>On Stratagems: 150 gold (Int +2)
>Trickery and Deceit: 200 gold (10% roll when doing plots and ploys)
>Public Works: 100 gold (Pol +1, better city improvement)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>General's Fan: 75 gold (Lea +1)
>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)
>Gold Medallion: 100 gold (+2 Cha)

>>33052053
>>Trickery and Deceit: 200 gold (10% roll when doing plots and ploys)

We need this desperately, but goddamn it not enough gold.

Buy:

>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33052053
>>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)

We ideally need to capture the leader or get him to join us.

We have high war and lead, cha will help us in our attempts to convince him

>>33052053
>Family Banner: 100 gold

The only thing we need right now.

>>33052053
>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
For Glory

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

Time to finish our war ensemble

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
Pol is the least useful skills and our fame is high enough anyway

>>33052045

>>33052053
>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

We need those stats desperatly

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

>>33052253

Leadership, yes. Why do we need Pol again?

>>33052251
>Family Banner: 100 gold
this!

>>33052268
So we can fall into the multiple attribute dependency trap and be useless at everything.

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

We're a warrior.

>>33052045
>>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)

>>33052053
buy reinforced iron armor for 150
sell iron armor for 70
buy gold medallion
we have 5 gold left over

This increases our war and our charisma, makes us die less and is just all around suited to fucking lingqi and fighting which is what we've been trying to do with our character.

>>33052291

Yeah, I'm just not seeing why we should buy Family Banner here.

(1) We are famous already and it's going to have a marginal benefit. (Check the Pastebin)

(2) Pol's our dump stat because it's pretty useless to a fighting general.

Charisma's pretty meh as well, but at least it's more useful than Pol.

>>33052316
>fucking lingqi

not in this lifetime

>>33052282
>>33052315
Which one are you voting for? We can't buy both.

>>33052313
And we use Cha a lot right now
>>33052333
sorry,really drowsy right now, copied the wrong comment im voting for silk robes,

Supporting this >>33052316

>>33052053
>>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)

We need char and its our worst stat.

>>33052053
>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

None of this CHA horseshit.

>>33052053
>>Silk Robes: 150 gold (+3 Cha)

Because I really think we shouldn''t buy anything and save money . Alas, anon won't let that fly.

>>33052363

We are going on a massive campaign to conquer the South. WAR, INT, and LDR takes priority for me over CHAR bonus.

I say we buy CHAR boosters after our we get our bonus from the conquests. Right now, we need to up our chances of a successful conquest.

Reminder that we took Jian'ye through INT and not CHAR

>>33052404
so instead you pick the worst option. I like it.

>>33052376

We need leaders and we need to get the generals and magistrates to capitulate instead of fighting to the death.

Imagine our losses if we had to take our current city and kill Taisi Ci.

>>33052053
>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)

>>33052329
We should probably stop trying to go after her, every time we try we embarrass ourselves.
Plus it effectively takes away two potential political marriages for Lu Bu's group

>>33052416
Just love making you mad.

>>33052439
>implying i didn't vote for the robes

I'm here for suffering and failure, anon.

>>33052425

That was an INT ploy, not a CHAR check.

>>33052413
Yes, by a choice of options.

One of the options to let the leader to suspect Taisi Ci was a cha option.

And now that Raian is no longer having the stat affecting the option be shown, we might choose a cha option

>>33052430
I doubt Lingqi would allow herself to be married off for political reasons and Lu Bu is like the biggest pushover ever when it comes to her.

>>33052430
Indeed, we need to start sucking Chen Gong's cock in a non-figurative way.

>>33052430
Telling /tg/ to give up on their waifu is a futile effort.

>>33052413
We don't have to conquer the South we can try to peacfully Annex through diplomacy while sending Lu bu to wreck shit up Cao Cao's way.

>>33052473

A false letter ploy.

We won't always have the opportunity for this.

Likely, it will be a face to face meeting where it will becoming an int+cha or cha+pol check.

>>33052503
Oh god, are you the idiots that were voting for letting go the guy talking shit to us last thread?

Being proven objectively wrong once was not enough for you?

Selling a previous item will be at 50% price. Otherwise you'd be able to buy whatever you want, sell, and buy something else without consequence.

Gliding Spear is bought as it has most votes. -100 gold, 85 left. Do you wish to buy anything else or move on? Note that gold isn't only just for items; you can use it to bribe people, and situation events may come when you may want to use it.

>>33052476

The choices are pretty obvious though.

>>33052503

That's dumb. This is a military conquest, we aren't going to be a diplomancer in the Three Kingdoms warlords era.

Also, why would we attack Cao Cao? Yuan Shu is a better target. We don't even share a border with Cao Cao. It's Liu Bei, Yuan Shu, and Liu Biao that we share borders.

>>33052533
Move on

>>33052533
save it.

>>33052519
Hes partially right.

Sun Ce used force and then got foes to capitulate as much as possible so as to add their troops to his.

Diplomacy is an option that should be used.

>>33052519

punishing offenses to your honor =/= Making vassal states

Not even one of those guys but what the fuck are you on about?

>>33052533
Lets move on.

>>33052533

Move On

>>33052519
>>33052545
Fine you want to be revilled as Brutes go ahead.

>>33052564
Sun Ce used force first, and then use diplomacy from a position of power. We aren't going to just convince people to give up their power bases without force.

We have to negotiate from a position of power for these targets since they have to be completely subordinate to us. This province is our power base, we need tight control.

Diplomancy like with Liu Biao? Yes, that's great, but with weak targets, we need to show them our power first.

>>33052576

>brutes
Nigga, we have 68 int, better than our leadership

>>33052533
buy the army banner, lead will be useful for the upcoming battles and it sounds cool

>>33052565
I'm on about people trying to cripple the character by raising all our stats to mediocre rather than, for example, taking war to a level where we stand a fighting chance against Lu Bu and working on leadership or int from there to be a fighting general.

>>33052610
Yes we do.

And we already have very strong war and decent lead.

We needed to boost the cha stat for the coming dialogues so a bad roll doesnt screw us over.

>>33052533
Raian, shouldn't our WAR be at 89?

Gliding spear was +2 WAR, not +1 WAR. Unless I'm missing something here.

>>33052639
Honestly, we're pretty damn good with War, and since we're pretty much the main field thinker, it helps to balance out Lu Bu's wrecking ball state.

>>33052639
Allright acceptable for the moment, but after this campaign can we start raising our other attributes so they are not mediocre?

>>33052533
Raian, heads up. In the store, gliding spear is listed as +2 war. On the character sheet, +1 war.

>>33052661
We don't have a very strong war stat.
Play ROTK, anyone worthy of note is literally 90+.

>>33052685
We should focus INT if anything, pol can remain terrible.

>>33052678
We're clearly still weaker than Taishi Ci, Zhuang Liao and Lingqi. We need to address that first, since it's the core of this character.

>>33052617
and that means jack shit if we are going to Ravage the as of now untouched south, remember that up till now the fighting has taken place in northern china, If we do go fighting in the south we will be making more enemies than we need to and prolonging this conflict.

Better to bring friends to the table than enemies anyway & any that refuse can be killed by our good friend Lu Bu.

>>33052685

Well need cha and int definitely.

Pol we can push on the backburner.

>>33052703

Still overkill compared to whoever we're going up against now.

We have time to bring it up but the negotiations for this campaign are going to happen without a chance to bring them up.

>>33052639
Then make that argument instead of spouting off some bullshit like you diplomacy doesn't work because it's notable era of war. That doesn't even make the smallest amount of sense and you sound like an idiot.

Fucking wannabe smart guys on the internet. I don't even.

>>33052731
>Still overkill compared to whoever we're going up against now.
Not really.
Taishi Ci we literally fought last session.

>>33052721
>muh benevolence

shu pls go and die in a hole like you're good at

>>33052661

CHAR is fine, but not now. Our conquest will involve primarily conquest, and the three main stats for that are INT, LDR, and WAR.

In-town management is definitely focused on INT and CHAR, but that's not going to be for sometime.

I won't support pushing up POL. We can't focus on all the stats and POL is for our advisers and brother.

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After buying your new spear, you bid farewell to your family and ask Zhu Yang to take care of things while you are gone. You make your way to the southern gate of Jian Ye, where the army host has been gathered and split in to two divisions. On the southwestern side, you can see Zhang Liao, Lu Lingqi, Gao Shun, and Song Xian waiting ahead of the army, while Lu Bu and the rest of the other officers are at the other side. You have a chance to talk with one of the other army's entourage before leaving; do you choose to do so?

>Go to your army and start marching
>Go speak with Lu Bu or one of his members first (choose)

>>33052721
Even peaceful annexation was a dream for Liu Bei.
We have to conquer, that's a fact.

>>33052762
>Benevolence
>Not Pragmatism

sure bud whatever, continue to enforce the Idea that Lu Bu & all who follow him are nothing but Brutish warlords that live for blood.

>>33052721

The South hasn't been untouched. There's been frequent raiding by the barbarians and there's a lot of independent warlords and Yuan Shu being Yuan Shu.

If anything, unifying the South will bring the common people peace in the long run.

We need to fight in the South because we don't have a powerbase. We pacify the South because it belongs to us.

Our friends are other warlords with power, not inconsequential insects.

>>33052780
>>Go speak with Lu Bu and his officers
Wish them good hunting and the best of luck.

Offer our respects to each officer, even down to the lieutenants.

>>33052780
>Go speak with Lu Bu or one of his members first (choose)
"Lu Bu! Let us spar next time we meet! I'll make sure I hit you at least once!"

>>33052780
>>Go speak with Lu Bu or one of his members first (choose)

Gao Shun

I know I'm going to be outvoted but goddamn it I'm going for it

>>33052780
Go speak with Taishi Ci.

>>33052828
Why Gao Shun?

>>33052811

>You may have one blade, one spear, one ranged weapon, and one horse; having more of the same type of item listed will not stack. Other items of the same type not listed may be stacked

We have Whispering Blade and Gliding Spear. Those stack as you can see in the Pastebin

>>33052828

Anon.

You will be outvoted because Gao Shun is riding with us.

>>33052780
>Go speak with Lu Bu

May he bring swift destruction to his enemies.

>>33052849

Oops, my zeal for Gao Shun overtook my reading comprehension. Apologies.

>>33052780
>Go speak with Lu Bu or one of his members first (choose)

Lu Bu I suppose then, not in the mood for a long conversation with Taishi Ci

>>33052780
Listen up you shufags, we're going to talk to Taishi Ci before we march.

>>33052780
>>Go speak with Lu Bu or one of his members first (Lu Bu)

Tell Lu Bu that if he finds someone really strong to try and recruit the. NOT just cut their heads off.

>>33052821
Seconding this.

Recently caught up on this (and just started playing RoTK XI) so I'm pretty excited for this quest. Keep up the good work Raian.

>>33052913
>>33052913
>>33052913

>>33052821
This.

>>33052917
>>33052821
This combined with >>33052824 with >>33052913

>>33052780
>>33052821
Supporting this. Will save us time and it's a good gesture

>>33052913
This combined with >>33052821

>>33052950
>save us time

I don't think you understand what giving respects to every officer above lieutenant entails, anon.

>>33052780
>>33052877

Changing my vote to

>>33052821

>>33052913

Don't say that to Lu Bu. ESPECIALLY INFRONT OF THE ARMY.

We'll be putting him down.

Give that advice to Zhang Liao to relay to Lu Bu when the time comes.

>>33052964

I get the feeling this is one of those people calling everything sycophantic last thread being ironic and it blowing up in their face.

>>33052964
I meant quest time, I didn't want to get into a multi-choice conversation with an officer before we left.

>>33052993
Zhang Liao is our deputy commander, anon. You mean Taishi Ci?

>>33052993
Zhang Liao is with us though, but yeah I agree just talk to Lu Bu and wish him luck/glory

>>33053014
>Zhang Liao is our deputy commander, anon. You mean Taishi Ci?

My bad, anon. Yes.

>>33052993
I figured it's implied that anything we say would be put tactfully. Then again I can totally see Raian playing it strait and then saying it's our fault even though he knows no one meant it to go that way.

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>>33053078
>Expecting a GM to do work for you

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Raian, get a twitter!

>>33053119
No, it's more expecting a GM to not try and actively fuck you.

>>33053141

I feel your pain.

>mfw I got in and we just charged uphill at an entrance army

>>33053119

Not to go down this path of discussion but hes already converting our options into outcomes.

Converting them with a positive spin or converting them with a negative spin, either way hes still taking what we say and making a story out of it.

I mean i don't think we should have to write "With utmost respect..." before every. single. option to avoid pissing people off.

>>33053178
Not really.
It's expecting a GM to work for you, read your mind, and make everything work well with minimal input from our end

>>33053119
>do work for you

Way I usually do it is if it's not in quotes the tone fit's into what would usually be expected for the conversation.

A QM who doesn't is most likely a shiteater.

>>33053178

Nah, what we want to do is an objective.

How we do it is a plan, and for that, we need to write it out.

Hell, otherwise at the meeting we could have just chosen, 'calm lingqi down'

>>33053200
>read your mind

Other way around, anon. We can only guess what the GM is thinking, as thread 3 demonstrated.

>>33053195

He always announces the next thread time at the end of the thread.

He hasn't been off so far.

>>33053200

When there are probably 10-20 people all floating options around in multiple different manners you can't exactly create an eloquent even handed response given three 10 line options dude.

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>>33053226
Even though multiple people in the thread guessed what has happened?

>>33053227

People forgot.

A twitter notification popping up is very helpful.

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>>33053247
Yes, those hypothetical people that don't actually exist as shown by the votes being near unanimous.

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Given your friendship with Lu Bu, and that he has even trusted you in command of the other expedition force, you think it is only obvious courtesy you should go see him off and wish him well. You whip the reins of your horse, and move toward Lu Bu who is at the helm of his force.

Lu Bu is donned in fine and new polished armor that gleams in the sun. It seems that now he has become a lord and has even taken the title of Governor, he is keen on presentations. With his strong stature and smile, he does look powerful and commanding. The phoenix headdress that he always wears is still on his head; likely a habit he will not give up.

He turns to with a bigger grin when you arrive.

"Zhu Xing," he says with a good gesture. "Should you not be preparing to march out?"

"I only came to wish you the best of luck in your endeavors," you reply with a smile and bow. "You will be facing numerous foes and enemies."

"Bah, they are nothing to me and my elite cavalry," Lu Bu responds with a dismissive wave of his hand. "And I have Chen Gong with me should anything go wrong. Once we conquer the Southlands, we shall have a drink together Zhu Xing. I will give you command of a city and your own authority to raise armies. Soon enough, the entire world will be trembling at our might."

"You humble me with your generosity," you say with a nod.

"Take care, Zhu Xing. And mind that damn daughter of mine doesn't bring trouble to the rest of the army."

With that, Lu Bu raises his hand for his army to start moving. Chen Gong and Taishi Ci nod to you as they march off along with Lu Bu. You head back to your own command where the other generals are.

"Well, you certainly took your time," Lingqi says with a frown as you trot your horse in front of your force.

How do you respond?
>Explain you only wanted to wish Lu Bu farewell
>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her
>Just ignore her

>>33053324
>>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053324
>>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053324
>My friend is worth every second of my time. On that note however, my friend also has high expectations of you, his daughter

>>33053324
>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

combine with >>33053355 prehaps as a casual remark.

>>33053324
Wait, Lu Bu is the commander?
Who decided that?

>>33053324
>d
We're going to be spending weeks together. A few minutes to wish a friend good luck doesn't seem extravagant to me.

>>33053383

You would deny Lu Bu command of the force?

>Explain you only wanted to wish Lu Bu farewell

Basically, tell her her father is like a brother to us so its only right to see him off.
she already know what people expect of her, no need to rub it off.

>>33053383
Lu Bu did.

You know, the head of his faction and our boss?

>>33053324
shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053417
>>33053409
Why is he head of the faction?
Goddamn, that's a stupid move. At very least it should be Cheng Gong/Us/Lu bu

>>33053383
Lu Bu of course, are you gonna argue with him?
>>33053324
>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053417
Also the guy with plans so catastrophically bad they lead to instant defeat.

Hopefully Chen Gong will be able to babysit him in our place.

>>33053324
I think what we should do is shurg the remark off and tell her Lub Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053431

Considering he could squash us like a bug, hes in command.

Plus, with him in direct control hes less likely to get bored and turn on us for sport like hes prone to.

>>33053431

Lu Bu is the head.

For all strategic purposes, he defers to our judgement until he gets drunk or too headstrong.

>>33053324
>>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053431

What? We've been Lu Bu's subordinate for basically forever. The hierarchy was always established to be 1. Lu Bu 2. Us.

Chen Gong is an adviser and outside of the military hierarchy.

>>33053453
>Considering he could squash us like a bug,
We've actually sparred with him, and we ended up as equals.
>hes less likely to get bored and turn on us for sport like hes prone to.
He's never been prone to that. We're also like Liu Bei to Guan Yu with him.

>>33053440

That's why Chen Gong insisted on going with Lu Bu. It's also why we sent Taishi Ci with him

>>33053480

With good rolls.

>>33053480

>You are sweating, and short of breath. Lu Bu only drops a bead of sweat, but otherwise, his condition is much better than your own. You did well, but if this had been in a real duel, you would have been too tired to continue and surely killed.

Yeah, that's not true.

>>33053480
>ended up as equals.

I'm not sure what spar you're remembering, but it sure as fuck wasn't the one where he broke two of our spears and had us completely winded while barely breaking a sweat.

>>33053480
>We've actually sparred with him, and we ended up as equals.
Because we picked counters. In that fight, we rolled shit and even then Lu Bu dominated us physically.
He'd wreck us in a real fight.

>>33053487

Whenever lu bu leaves, he needs to have Chen Gong and either Taishi Ci or Zhang Liao with him.

>>33053480
>We've actually sparred with him, and we ended up as equals.

Socially? yes Martially? Hell fucking no.

>>33053480

Raian said that Taishi Ci and Zhang Liao are slightly stronger than us.

Lu Bu is stronger than Taishi Ci, you see where I'm going with this?

>>33053514
>>33053511
Of course.
But it's more about appearances.
We were equal due to no one landing a hit, this is also reflected in how Lu Bu views us.
We're a capable warrior in his eyes, not a weakling. Which is why he wouldn't turn on us like that.

>>33053531
We're about 10-15 stat away from him in war.

>>33053550
We're 15 away. At a minimum, since Lu Bu probably breaks the 100 stat cap.

>>33053550

If we relegated him and took command, especially with him viewing himself as stronger, which he undoubtedly does, he would betray us. Hence why he is in command.

>>33053480
>He's never been prone to that. We're also like Liu Bei to Guan Yu with him.

I hope you are saying that we are Guan Yu to his Liu Bei and not the other way around.

It would still be a poor analogy, but Lu Bu has never indicated that we are superior or even his equal.

Zhu Xing and Lu Bu are good friends and he respects us as a warrior, but Zhu Xing is clearly the subordinate here. The best subordinate, but not equal.

>>33053579
Lu Bu in XI goes for 105 with his base equipment.

>>33053584
It's more about us sharing command rather than just fully under him.

>>33053550
>We're about 10-15 stat away from him in war.
That's pretty massive since we are already at the high end of WAR.

>>33053584
It's not betraying. He would be well within his rights as our lord to have us punished for insubordination if he pleases.

>>33053625

Im saying, if we were the top dog, he would undoubtedly betray us for being weak and just subsume command.

>>33053602
Lu Bu's the general in chief, he can do what he wishes and as long as we serve under him, we are nominally bound by him.

The keyword is under.

But honestly, we are going to be leading independent armies most of the time anyway. Lu Bu trusts us to carry out independent campaigns just like we are doing anyway

This is a moot issue as long as Lu Bu is surrounded by capable advisers when he's leading an army.

>>33053669
Problem: Lu Bu's downfall resided around him IGNORING his advisers.

>>33053669

And kept away from the fucking wine

>>33053683
So we arrange some trust falls and slumber parties, make him trust everyone around him, keep him out of desperate situations as much as possible, and hope for the best.

>>33053683

Which is why we surround him with capable warriors and intelligent advisers.

Lu Bu is liable to ignore eggheads but he's less likely to ignore advise from warriors he respects. Zhang Liao, Taishi Ci, and us are the three that he respects right now.

Also because he was never in that strong of a position honestly

>>33053738
I wonder if he'd get along with Zhuge Liang.

>>33053738

Also... We need to keep on an extended war footing.

Too much peacetime makes him more likely to get drunk.

>>33053743
If by 'get along' you mean 'impale on his spear and use as a warning to others', then yes.

>>33053762
Actually yes, you're right.
In the siege just before his downfall he started drinking and eating massively and became ill because of it.

>>33053769
A dude with 100 INT should at least be able to keep the peace between the two.

>>33053762

We're in the south so we can sick him on bandits if worst comes to worst.

>>33053769

Lu Meng might be more his style

>>33053789
We could just organize extravagant training sessions with other commanders.

>>33053789

Or barbarians. Seriously internal issues were always a thing in the Three Kingdoms

>>33053762
I say send him raiding North especially if one side gets the upperhand against the other.

the Two forces up north are Yuan shao & Cao cao right?

>>33053355

Seconding this, but maybe with more polite tone

"My friend is worth every second of my time, He is wishing you the best of fight and have high expectation of you My Lady"

SNIDE REMARKS ONLY WORKS ON MODERN GIRLS GUISE

>>33053324
>Shrug the remark off and tell her Lu Bu has high expectations of her

>>33053827
Gongsun Zan is still around, is he not?

>>33053827
We should focus on Yuan Shu first, as well as Liu Bei's inevitable turning on his family

>>33053827

There's 5 I think.

Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, Gongsung Zan, and the 4 Prick Generals (to Northwest)

But they are not our immediate neighbors, except for Liu Bei in Xu

>>33053851
We're going to be dealing with the Sun family before any of those.

>>33053835
I'm with this anon

>>33053851

4 prick generals are gonna be the first to get got if all goes well in this thread.

That way we should be able to reclaim the emperor and have a stronger right to exist / Liu Bei alliance.

>>33053846

Yuan Shu is really the only logical route after our Southern Conquests.

Liu Biao is our ally so we can't go there.

Our remaining two neighbors are Liu Bei or Yuan Shu.

Liu Bei only holds half of Xu and it would put us into conflict with a powerful Cao Cao too soon. Yuan Shu holds rich lands and would give us the power to match Cao Cao

>>33053431
He's been the head of the faction from the start. It makes sense in some ways seeing as he's the really famous one

>>33053835
>"My friend is worth every second of my time,
Reposting my reply

He is wishing you the best of fight and have high expectation of you My Lady"

SNIDE REMARKS ONLY WORKS ON MODERN GIRLS GUISE

>>33053835
Lingqi is a strong independent women who doesn't need no man.

Seriously, she's so anachronistic it hurts.

We really need a map.

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You glance at Lingqi, and simply return a smile at her remark. It seems clear that there is a hint of jealousy from her that you are getting so well along with Lu Bu. Despite her abstinent refusal to listen to Lu Bu back at Chang An, it's certainly clear she holds her dear father in high regard.

“The Governor just wished to say a few remarks of you before you we departed,” you reply.

“Hmm? What did he say?” Lingqi responds with a slightly surprised look.

“That he holds high expectations for you and hopes you do well in this campaign,” you respond slyly. “I hope to see you fare well in our future battles as well. As the Governor's daughter, you are an integral part of our force for now and the future.”

“I... I see,” Lingqi says with a nod, appeased, and then with a smile. “Give me opportunities, Zhu Xing, and I will not disappoint.”

You nod, and turn your horse to begin the march. Zhang Liao has the slightest of smirks on his side, knowing full-well the way in which Lingqi was appeased. It seems you relationship with Lingqi has improved.

>>33053842
>>33053846
>>33053851
I think we need a map with details of each Factions current holdings.

regardless if we send Lu bu raiding it will help prolong the northern conflict and gives us time to prepare and get our shit together regardless of if we peacefully or forcefully annex the north.

You take a look at your army. A lot of your men are well-trained and veterans from the previous battles; though there are some new recruits in your ranks who need experience. Your supplies are currently plentiful, with a thousand more bushels added from when you spent time gathering supplies before you took Jian Ye. You can always wait for more supplies from Jian Ye and Yan Jun, but that may take some time and you need to halt the army to guard supply lines,

Looking at the territory you have to take, you expect that this campaign could last a year or so. The enemy has a couple thousand troops guarding the towns and villages while ten thousand troops guard the city of Hui Ji which is your main objective. Wang Lang is unaware of your attack force currently, so you have the advantage of taking his territory and guard forces before he marches out his main force. Taking too long may mean Wang Lang gathers more of his troops together, but marching too quickly may also mean tiring your army out and not taking more firm control of the territories you hold. You need to decide and balance things out well.

>Troops: 7000
>Equipment: 2000 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams
>Food: 4000
>Morale: Average
>Fatigue: Low
(Troops will eat Troop#/10 a month. So in this case, 700 units of supplies a month)

In any case, you begin your march. Your army travels at a steady pace for a week before you finally encounter the first small town at the distance. You send a scout out, who checks the area and informs you the town is being guarded by a thousand troops and is lightly defended.

How do you do your attack?

>Blitz in quickly and take the town
>Siege the town with your weapons and fire catapults from a distance

>>33053919

> Based Raian

>>33053939
>>Blitz in quickly and take the town

Small town and lightly defended, let's quickly take this town before they know what hit them.

>>33053919
Why haven't we married our sister to Zhang Liao yet and made him our brother in law?

>>33053939
>>Blitz in quickly and take the town

>>33053919

Hah. Zhang Liao, you.

>>33053939
>>Blitz in quickly and take the town

Gao Shun, Lingqi.

This is your show

>>33053939

Strike from three directions and ambush from the fourth, pincer attack, on my smoke signal

>>33053939
>>Blitz in quickly and take the town

Speed is important for soft targets like this.

>>33053939
>Blitz in quickly and take the town

Easy morale.

>>33053919
Yay, what a cutie

>>33053939
Blitz

>>33053983
>>33053980
>>33053972
>>33053956
GUYS
WE HAVE 7000 TROOPS!
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO WASTE THEM
>The enemy has a couple thousand troops guarding the towns and villages while ten thousand troops guard the city of Hui Ji which is your main objective.
>while ten thousand troops guard the city of Hui Ji which is your main objective.
>TEN THOUSAND TROOPS

>>33053939
>>Troops: 7000
>>Equipment: 2000 horses, 5 Catapults, 3 Ballista, 3 Siege Rams
>>Food: 4000
>>Morale: Average
>>Fatigue: Low
>(Troops will eat Troop#/10 a month. So in this case, 700 units of supplies a month)

So about 5-6months of provisions.

This will need to be made up.

We'll have the villages provide us additional supplies but we do not pillage.

We intent to rule over this area, after all.

>>33054005

> Taking too long may mean Wang Lang gathers more of his troops together

>>33054005
Yes. which is why we're going to blitz the thousand here before they have a chance to be reinforced.

Wasting time on siege equipment when its not necessary would be a mistake here.

>>33054005

As I said in>>33053979

>>33053939

No rolls?

>>33054005
>You send a scout out, who checks the area and informs you the town is being guarded by a thousand troops and is lightly defended.

This isn't Hui Ji, it's probably a small border town.

Also
>Blitz in quickly and take the town
It'll be a decent base of operations for now, and a good place to start the supply chain.

>>33054005
>>33054012

Right, so better to attack the troops than to damage the city and risk annoying the peasantry too much

>>33053939
>>Blitz in quickly and take the town

Alright guys, from now on can we agree to not all vote within the first 5 minutes? I agree this time, but we really do need to take things slower and think / discuss our actions.

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>>33053973

>Gao Shun

Ravages of Time Gao Shun is my head canon

>>33054078
>implying anyone cares what anyone else thinks

>>33054005
We can't afford to take a slow pace either though, otherwise that number could balloon up to be even less favorable, and what's worse they could use the time to stockpile more provisions making a siege more difficult. We'll have to starve them out when we get to Hui ji or use some clever ruse in order to tilt things in our favor. 6000 vs 10,000 is better odds than 7,000 vs 15,000-20,000.

>>33054101

I would have taken my time if the choice wasn't extremely obvious.

>>33054104

But this is what always fucks us up.

>>33054106
>or use some clever ruse in order to tilt things in our favor.
FIRE ATTACKS FIRE ATTACKS FIRE ATTACKS FIRE ATTACKS

>>33053939
> Option C: Light diversionary force to draw out the enemy with taunts and insults (Zhang Liao), followed by a Pincer assault with Linqi and Zhu Xing on the wings.

>>33054121
Welcome to quest threads, where everyone sees your presence as a bug, not a feature.

>>33053939
>Blitz
No sense in getting bogged down fighting a foe that probably doesn't expect us and is greatly outnumbered

>>33054121

We will deliberate for non-obvious choices. This one was pretty slam dunk.

>>33054166

Hopefully.

>>33053939
>Try to win them over.
"We are on a campaign to win these lands. We do not wish to slip more blood than we need to."

>>33054184
Shufag pls go

>>33054184

We should do this mid blitz, lest we give them time to prepare. Or give those who surrender / prisoners a chance to earn their freedom fighting as shock troops.

>>33054184
That's something you do during a siege. Please stop being an idiot and making it harder for is to get diplomacy options voted for in the future.

>>33054195
I want more troops for the big battle what can I say.

>>33054184

Come on, anon. We'll try to recruit survivors after the battle and we will obviously minimize damage to the peasantry since they are our economic base.

We are not losing the element of surprise by asking them to surrender before the battle. That's counter-productive.

>>33054184
This is a REALLY stupid idea.
Absolutely no one defects in ROTK unless they've been friends for absolutely years.
And even then you need gold, time, and be in a FAR more suitable position than the enemy.

>>33054216

Those troops will stab your ass from the rear

>>33054210
>mid blitz,

I don't think you understand just what a blitz is anon.

>>33054216
>gives the enemy time to resist more effectively
>I NEVER EXPECTED WE WOULD TAKE MORE CASUALTIES THIS WAY

>>33054216

Your actions will lead us to losing more troops in the initial engagement since we lose surprise.

Troops of proven loyalty versus troops who might defect at any given moment. Just recruit survivors.

>>33054184

Diplomancer is not us

>>33054136
Hmm... if we make it look like a bandit attack that could work., though they'd need to do more than taunt. Will it be more beneficial than charging at them before their defenses are set though? They'll likely only send out about half of their force leaving the other half to defend. Unless there are too many men in the distraction force that is, at which point they won't leave and just turtle up and send out a rider for reinforcements.

>>33054240

Fuck them up to the point where they don't want to fight anymore. Out of 1000 i'd imagine with 600-700 dead the remaining 300 would be quite interested in whatever option doesn't lead to them dying the fastest.

Fine fine I will stop trying.

>>33054184
Guy that suggested Diplomacy before, now is not the time for Diplomacy or half actions.

>>33054253

Indeed.

We have two options though:

We recruit the survivors, then embed them individually in individual units.

Spread them out so that they'll be less able to do rubbish. But I expect morale will take a little hit.

Form them into their own unit.

Lesser morale loss among our normal troops, higher chance of rubbish from the unit in question.

We can use it as a throwaway unit though.

>>33054274

you're just doing it at a wrong time. Later.

>>33054264

60-70% casualty rate would be massive for any battle in the ancient era. Their morale would break quickly and they would run or surrender before that point.

>>33054261

Yeah, I just want a quick blitz. There's no military advantage to being too cute when we hold every advantage and speed is of the essence.

>>33054264
probably even less than that honestly. Once the initial shock of the attack passes and they realize they're heavily outnumbered they will likely surrender even if they've only suffered a few hundred casualties. Depends on who's in command.

We can give the kettle to the village

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>>33054401

>>33054364
>>33054335

Even better.

>>33054401

GIVE THEM THE KETTLE

>>33054401
We only give the kettle to those that are willing while holding hands

>>33054401
do you know nothing of General Zhu Xing the Autistic? The kettles are our trophies.

Should we delegate the charge to anyone by the way? Like >>33053973 suggested or someone else?

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Speaking of overcoming troop numbers, we should start thinking about the terrain a bit.
Flood attacks were superb in nearly every situation, but especially sieges.
Utilizing boulders is great against an advancing foe, which we could use to our advantage if the enemy tries to hunt us.
And last of all, Fire attacks are useful in sieges, ship battles, destroying enemy supplies, the list goes on.

Troop tactics is another point, pincer attacks were wide spread and used massively, most likely due to the effects on enemy morale.
Considering we have 2000 cavalry, I suggest we use their mobility to our advantage to start using pincer attacks.
Using the Ballista and Catapults for ambushes would also be a good idea, however that would require some exceptional circumstances.

>>33054401

I still say we collect kettles from every village we conquer.

Grand General of Flying Kettles.

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You order your forces to go in battle formation and spread your troops to attack from all sides. Your men move quickly and silently, and when you give the signal, they all charge forward.

The enemy is caught unaware. Only a few men can go atop the walls and fire arrows before ladders are placed and your troops start climbing in. Song Xian orders covering fire with the archers, and in a quick fashion, your infantry are in the walls mowing the enemy down. About an hour in to the fight, Zhang Liao and Lingqi with a squad of men manage to open the gates to the town. Gao Shun and yourself, leading the cavalry, charge through the gates and rout the remaining enemy troops. The battle is quickly over and the town taken with minor casualties.

As you take control of the city, Song Xian remarks how he is happy to soon take the spoils of war from the town. However, the remark troubles you and you think taking from the populace might not be a good idea...

>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape
>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place
>Appease your men with your own money
(Roll 1d100, best of three first)

Rolled 6

>>33054455
>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

Rolled 78

>>33054455
>>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape
plus
>Appease your men with your own money

Rolled 81

>>33054455
>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

>>33054439
Don't forget terrain anon. We should use things like forestry, boglands, hills, and rivers to our advantage

>>33054455
>>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place

wait,
>(Roll 1d100, best of three first)
>best

what the hell?

>>33054477

We don't have that much money to spare, we should wait and dole out what we can towards the end of the campaign out of our own pockets.

>>33054455
>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

>Appease your men with your own money

I say promote the second option but allow the first.

>>33054455
>>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

Murderers and rapists will be hanged.

All food supplies taken must be contributed to the store for our campaign.

>>33054496
Actually, we've got a huge amount of gold compared to our troops.

>>33054455
>>Appease your men with your own money

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>>33054455
>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place.

Let's hope our boy Xing know what Xiang Yu did wrong.

>>33054495

Maybe because we kept getting fucked by averages? Or maybe because this is a different circumstance.

>>33054495

It's probably a LDR roll to see how well we can control our troops.

55 average with our decent leadership should make it manageable.

>>33054495
Troops need to awarded, we risk mutiny & outrage since it goes against traditional thinking.

>>33054455

>(Roll 1d100, best of three first)

Wait...

>>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place

>>33054495
We're in an advantageous position I suppose.

>>33054508

Still, we're the general, we shouldn't have to hand out taels of gold between 7k men every time we take a small settlement.

>>33054455
>>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

Guys, let's not revert to Western thinking. We need our troops at a high morale, this is acceptable practice in those days.

We are here to limit our excesses, not punish our victorious troops

>>33054455
>>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place

>>33054548
This guy gets it.

>>33054548
I'm secretly trying to turn us into Shu+Lu Bu by making us benevolent and gaining Zhuge Liang
Shubu

>>33054455
>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

Looting is fine, wholesale slaughter and rape will lead to an angry populace which will fuck us over later.

>>33054455
>>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape
(1) We can't pay our troops gold for every tiny village we take. It goes against common sense. Reward troops for when they take the big one with your own funds if need be.

(2) Not rewarding our troops at the start of the campaign is the biggest fucking mistake we can make

>>33054548

Backing this

>>33054575
We'll just offer Liu Bei refuge when he inevitably needs it after one of his fuck-ups. That's never backfired on anyone, right.

Rolled 73

>>33054455
>>Command your troops no looting whatsoever may take place
We will need the supplies later.

>>33054575

You do realize that Shu and Liu Bei also looted because he wasn't a moron who wanted his army to mutiny against him?

>>33054570

You should probably re-read your post and vote again

>>33054595
One of our first acts should be to give guan yu some land on loan. I'm sure he'll give it back.

>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape
I'd like to throw in that we should explain to those who object that this is only a minor town that is worth more strategically than financially to us

>>33054581
This. Strict orders against abuse of the peasantry, with executions according to military law. However, we need grain supplies for the army and the men need to be paid. Loot the bodies and take spoils from the town, but don't grind them into the dirt.

>>33054575

Lu Bu's daughter is already married to Liu Beis son. I assume we're still loyal to the Han since we said as much last thread.

Shubu is pretty much locked in at this point.

>>33054455
>>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

Restraining our troops to only taking a little is probably the best choice. We have a small reputation as an honorable general and it'd be good to uphold that but we can't stone wall the troops from plunder either. Drawing a line in the sand for murder and rape is probably the best compromise until we get a corp of truly loyal followers.

>>33054616
>Liu Beis

Wrong Liu, anon.

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>>33054595
No, fuck Liu Bei and his three brothers.

>>33054599
>You do realize that Shu and Liu Bei also looted because he wasn't a moron who wanted his army to mutiny against him?
Of course.
They weren't retarded.


>>33054616
>Liu Beis son.
Liu Biao. Not Liu Bei.
Liu Bei's son was a retard.

>>33054616
Liu Biao's second son, actually. Who historically surrendered to Wei.

>>33054616
Liu Biao is not Lui Bei.

>>33054616

Liu Biao. Liu Biao is governor of Jing province which borders us to the West.

Liu Bei controls half of Xu province, Cao Cao controls the other half.

Xu is to our north and barely borders us.

>>33054631
>>33054632
>>33054639
>>33054647

Okay so is Liu the family name, and these guys not both a part of Shu?

>>33054455
>Let your troops take some spoils, but make sure they don't take too much and commit murder/rape

>>33054632
>Liu Bei's son was a retard.

Liu Shan knew when to give up. I'd say he knew what he was doing.

>>33054658
Shu doesn't exist yet. One of Liu Biao's sons helped Liu Bei, the other surrendered to Cao Cao. Liu is a family related to the Han emperor (the Han emperor at the current time is a Liu - I believe Liu Bei is a distant uncle)

>>33054632
I like to think that in reality it wasn't Liu Chan that brought down Shu, but Jiang Wei's constant Northern Campaigns that drained the countries resources.

I trust our own troops to limit their destruction.

Assuming it all goes well, I say we should do this before we leave:

We find a condemned prisoner from the jails, gag him, tie him up, cover his face with a black bag and dress him in our army's uniform.

We present this man to the cities' assembled populace and our armies as a man of our force who raped and slaughtered.

We then kill him ourselves infront of them as a warning.

>>33054690

So we're still in a better place in terms of diplomacy between Shu / Liu Bei than just being some rampaging warlord given that we're still loyal to the Han.

Or is the Han fully imploded by the time Shu / Wu / Wei show up?

>>33054658
Shu doesn't exist, and won't until Cao Pi is made Emperor. Lie bei protests by naming himself Emperor of the Han, and Sun Quan eventually gets into the act as well.

Liu Bei attacks and takes over the lands of Liu Biao before this cause >muh benevolence.

>>33054658

Jesus no. Shu doesn't exist yet and it probably won't in this timeline.

Liu Biao is part of the Imperial Clan, the Emperor's last name is Liu as well.

Liu Bei claims to be the Imperial Uncle, i.e. a distance relative. There's a good chance he made that shit up to gain legitimacy and political backing.

Liu Bei is famous for stealing land from his own "clansmen". From Liu Biao's descendents and from Liu Zhang of Yi province.

>>33054658
Shu isn't really a thing yet IIRC. The seeds are there but Liu Bei hasn't come into enough power or recognition to make Shu into the force it later becomes.

>>33054722
I don't know about that. If our own trips heard and genuinely believed such a thing occurred I don't think it would work out well

>>33054548
This. Completely backing this.

>>33054696
I like Jiang Wei, but the man did not know when to fold them. Seriously. By the time you hit your 'Seventh Northern Campaign', it's time to give it the fuck up.

Liu Shan was known for being a little too trusting, though, and his advisors too timid. Still, I don't think he was wrong to surrender to Wei, because honestly by that time the Han was long dead, Shu had next to no chance, and ending the chaos was the most humane thing to do.

>>33054735
By the time they were fully established the Han had basically disintegrated. Cao Wei was actually founded by Cao Pi - Cao Cao maintained his position as a minister over the Emperor, who he held captive, much like Dong Zhuo (he was much cleverer about it, though - he observed all official respects and treated the Emperor very well, but it was all a show to keep him from protesting his treatment and making Cao Cao seem like a rebel)

>>33054737
That's a terrible plan and you should feel like an idiot for even suggesting it.

>>33054751
Wu might not become a thing in this game if we can hold off Sun Ce's eventual invasion. Or rather we are the Wu of this game.

>>33054751
>the force it later becomes.

Guys stuck with the poorest provinces fruitlessly bashing their heads against the walls of Wei over and over again?

>>33054751

You know, we are stomping out the seeds pretty fast.

Liu Bei maintained political relevancy in part because he was a valuable tool for Cao Cao in his battle with Lu Bu in the Northern Plains.

There's really nothing stopping Cao Cao from rolling up the rest of Xu Province, taking out Liu Bei, and consolidating his gains.

>>33054761
>if our own TROOPS

>>33054761

We've given the order for no raping and killing.

Those who cannot follow military law will be punished without exception.

This sets a good precedent for laws and punishment with our troops. It'll also buy some measure of goodwill and trust from the population.

>>33054783
>We are Wu Bu

>>33054658

Liu Biao is not Shu mang, he used to be Liu Bei ally, na dthen he deceased, his son betrayed Liu Bei

Then Liu Bei goes to Han Zhong, the rest is history

>>33054782

Did you quote the wrong person? Because that guy you quoted wrote what actually happened in history.

>>33054803

>Implying we won't be Shu Wu Bu

>>33054803
Oh shit, does that mean SSX is going to come around trying to suck our dick?

We have to run when that happens.

>>33054795
Well, barring his chronic hero collection tendencies.

The man would treat Liu Bei as a prince if he thought he'd get Guan Yu as part of the deal. His Guan Yu boner is a little alarming.

>>33054824
>Well, barring his chronic hero collection tendencies.
It's funny how he didn't get Lu Bu really.

>>33054784
I didn't say it was a /good/ force.

>>33054795
Yup. Both Shu and Wu are getting shafted with Lu Bu heading south.

>>33054824

Cao Cao will need to get his hands on red hare first.

Hmm

Imagine when Red Hare dies. What happens? Lu Bu without Red Hare.

>>33054856

Red Hare Junior?

>>33054838
He was thinking about it.

Then Liu Bei pointed out how that keeps turning out.

Even then, he tried to save Chen Gong out of respect for their friendship.

>>33054824
Looking back, Cao Cao seemed to drop quite a bit ogf spaghetti in his attempts to woo Guan Yu

>>33054866

Cao Cao's letter of 'I want you for my collection' will eventually turn up at Zhu Xing's doorstep.

>>33054861
Wonder how much gold one of those would cost us.

>>33054838

>When Cao Cao showed signs of reconsideration, Liu Bei said, "My lord, haven't you seen what Lü Bu did to Ding Jianyang and Grand Preceptor Dong?"

Liu Bei was a total cock and persuaded Cao Cao to not spare Lu Bu.

Fuck Liu Bei

>>33054797

THIS, looting is fine, but the rest should be restrained

Also good for reputation as a stern but reasonable warrior

>>33054867

He wanted his Qing Long Dao

>>33054824
Cao Cao with Liu Bei, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei as loyal subordinates sounds like something we really don't want to happen.

>>33054867

Cao Cao: Guan Yu: Zhu Xing: Lu Lingqi

>>33054886
Most of Shu were fucking assholes, when you get right down to it.

>>33054822

Does she keep sucking after we cum ? its better than vaginal sometimes

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You tell Song Xian to inform the troops that they make take some spoils, but murder and rape will be strictly outlawed and punishable by death. You inform him the looting should be done only in small amounts and the army should not take everything away from the peasants. He nods, and carries out the order.

The populace is slightly grumbling, and it's obvious they don't appreciate your force. However, no riots or the like will likely happen. You order your men to rest until the morrow, where after then you may decide to march out or stay at the town to gather strength and control of the town.

As the day turns orange and in to evening, you spot Gao Shun standing guard near the gate with his arms crossed, and his large body upright. While the others are resting, it seems he is keeping to his duties even now. You also hear that he refused to take anything from the populace.

You should go talk to him. What do you say?
>Praise him for his efforts in battle
>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting
>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

>>33054856
I imagine that Red Hare would make a good breeding stud.

>>33054822

I honestly won't mind...

We might be able to attract the Sun family under our banner if that pans out.

>>33054884
Wasn't Red Hare historically a breed of horse as opposed to a singular outstanding mount? Or am I misremembering shit?

>>33054916
>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now
>Praise him for his efforts in battle
>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting

>>33054916
>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

Also Praise him for standing guard rather than resting, good to see a officer not sitting back on their laurels or whatever ching ching shit laurels are.

>>33054916
>>Praise him for his efforts in battle
>>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting
>>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

We should implement the killing plan.

>>33054916
>>Praise him for his efforts in battle
>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting
>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

Honestly, I feel like we should ask all three. But emphasis on praise.

Muh Gao Shun

>>33054916
>>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

>>33054933
She has diseases, anon.

>>33054905
Well, Zhang Fei's not so bad. The man is sabotage. Although paired with a general of great resolve and temerity like Cao Ren...

>>33054916
>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting
>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

Is he concerned about further enemies, or about our treatment of the peasants? We should allay Gao Shun's fears. He's reasonably clever, and worth consulting with.

>>33054916
>>Talk and ask him about the decision you just made now

Ask him if he finds looting distasteful.

>>33054886
>>33054911
Well to be fair, Lu Bu was an even bigger asshole, what with the constant betrayals and patricide.

>>33054879

> Cao Cao the Infinite

>>33054905
>Liu Bei being loyal

The man had a worse track record than Lu Bu at being loyal

>>33054916
>Ask why he is standing guard and not resting
>Praise him for his efforts in battle