You are Zhu Xing, from the city of Xu Chang. Seeking out your destiny, you joined the infamous Dong Zhuo who took over the Han court and declared himself Prime Minister. You betrayed Dong Zhuo along with Lu Bu and took Chang An city. The armies of Xiliang however took on an offensive and defeated your armies and retook Chang An. You and Lu Bu retreat eastward with the remnants of your force.Character Profile: http://pastebin.com/UTDjnUuXPart 1: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32664983/Part 2: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32683252/Part 3: http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32767117/>the difficulty of the game will be "medium." Death won't be lurking in every corner, but too many mistakes, stat check failures, and the like will mean the end of the character>if the character dies, you can then play an heir to the character following him, or a completely new one if you wish. The goal is to get to a unified China regardless whether you "win" or "lose">try not to meta the game as much as possible when following through some of the famous events>this will heavily rely on the novel and history, and little bit on Dynasty Warriors. So no, don't expect to rambo in 1000 soldiers by yourself >there will be times when you WILL lose battles and have overwhelming odds. Liu Bei lost countless battles, countless territories, and abandoned his families multiple times before he established himself in Yi. Cao Cao also lost numerous humiliating defeats throughout his life, many times at smaller enemies despite overwhelming advantages. Don't expect to win every battle nor expect conquering ancient China to be easy>enemy plots and stratagems will not be thrown in your face. That's why they are strategies in the first place. Subtle hints will be given unless you pass stat checks and previously managed to find out intrigue, in which case they will be more "in your face"
You and the remnants of Lu Bu's army march for hours eastward at a fast pace. Most of the soldiers are tired and exhausted, some even are left behind in the road while others abandon the army. Because of the pace at which the army has to move and the lack of time to chase after deserting soldiers, you have no choice to press on.Lu Bu is sullen, and staying close to a crying Diao Chan. You can see near the front of the army Lu Lingqi who is also tired and her armor tattered with some red. By the looks of it, she is not injured and the blood is from enemy soldiers. You can tell she is tired, but she presses on without a word of complaint. You soon reach a pass. After going through, you can rest at the next town without worry of enemy pursuit. As Lu Bu's army makes through the pass...“Halt!”Archers stationed notch their bows and take aims. Troops come out to meet your entourage. Lu Bu grits his teeth and grips his halberd while motioning for Diao Chan to move to the back. Lingqi readies her own spear as well. It seems another hard fight is on hand.“Stop! Stop! Lower your weapons!”Before another battle breaks out, one man comes out of the pass. The soldiers obey him and they lower their weapons. “General Lu Bu! We are no enemies of your group! Please forgive my men,” he says bowing as he comes in front of the army.“I have heard that Chang An has fallen and the other armies scattered. There is much to discuss, I beg of you to come with me and allow your men to rest here.”Lu Bu is obviously distrustful. He looks around with a worried look. What do you say?>Advise Lu Bu to heed the man>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guard
>>32811583>inb4 "Why didn't you follow my hints?"
>>32811600>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the passLet's be careful here.
>>32811600>>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guardWe know Lu Bu sempai is a tactical genius.
>>32811600>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the passOnly reasonable response
>>32811600>>Tell Lu Bu not to be trustful and to attack now while the other soldiers have lowered their guardIts probably just another plot to betray us like chang an.
>>32811600>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass
>>32811600>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the passLet's not rush into things now.
>>32811600>>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass>>OtherOffer to meet with the opposing officer yourself.
>>32811600>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the passWe really need to focus on cranking up our Leadership and Intelligence. Since our War is already at 84, it'll be harder to raise and we'll get a lot more value from the other 2 stats.
>>32811755Not Int or lead.We need pol and cha to get things done.
>>32811784No-one gets anywhere with just one stat.Plenty of clever people died when someone stronger than them crushed their brains in. Three Kingdoms China demands universal competence, and even then... Man ascribes, heaven provides.
>>32811784Leadership allows us to maintain our army's fighting strength and keep is going against tough odds. Intelligence gives us additional hints and makes it easier to strategize and pull off strategies. Those are the two most valuable traits, other than WAR, to a fighting general. Charisma is still valuable, but Pol is probably the least valuable out of the bunch.
>>32811844Since we are a fighting general, I agree. I do think we need to hire a proper adviser for no warfare related affairs though. Possibly train up our brother, if we can.
Lets just trust them.
>>32811755Really, we just need intelligence. The lack of information we were working under last thread would apparently have been alleviated if we had higher intelligence. Also, use Lu Bu as a sounding board for ideas. If he likes a plan, DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
>>32811870Wasn't here for the last thread.Was really surprised you lot actually voted to charge an entrenched enemy, uphill, outnumbered 2 to 1.That lu bu is not smart should have been obvious from awhile ago.
>>32811865>>32811870We need to hire more people in general, I think.We'll be raising our intelligence, but we aren't going to beat Jia Xu and his 97 ROTK 11 intelligence in a battle of wits.I like the idea of training our brother as an adviser though.
>>32811870On the other hand, it doesn't matter how good your plans are if you don't have the power to put them into action.One man can't hold a fortress.Unless his opponent is Sima Yi
>>32811894It goes beyond not smart. Lu Bu is so bad at commanding an army he shouldn't be given responsibility over anything other than himself. His advice led to a complete rout.
>>32811894You forgot that our army was also exhausted. But you live and learn, and we probably learned our lessons. >>32811914Our WAR is 84 with crappy equipment. We will probably pick up WAR through dueling enemy officers, we just need to hit the books in our free time.
>>32811933And yet.You guys voted to follow his advice.
Alright, so I went to sleep last thread filling confident as the majority for the vote at the time was for staying back in the capital. I wake up the next day to find everything ruined, so tonight I swear I will stay awake the entire thread and fight for my all to prevent us from doing more stupid crap.
>>32811948Yes, because we didn't realize he had the tactical acumen of a particularly nasty pile of shit. It was demonstrated quite clearly for us, however. Any advice given by him will be completely ignored from now on.
>>32811894Eh, I still stand by my decision to attack to a certain extent
>>32811941A failure from time to time builds character. Look at Liu Bei! The man couldn't help but fail in everything from generalship to child-rearing and he... uh, died after getting everyone he loved killed except Zhuge Liang and left his kingdom in the hands of a conniving pack of eunuchs and a guy whose name became synonymous with 'retardation'. (although personally I think Liu Shan is a little smarter and more reasonable than people give him credit for - boy knew when to fold 'em)So, bad example.
>>32811948Not all of us voted for it, some of us actually pointed out that it was a stupid idea. However, there's no use dwelling on it.
>>32811894Lu Bu believed that their morale was hurt badly enough that a decisive charge with our forces would cause them to break and flee. Anons believed he knew what what he was talking about, since he's the greatest warrior in china. We know better now.
>>32811987Cao Cao might have been a better example.
>>32812015He's a fabulous warrior.He is not a very good general. You have to remember that Fengxian is a bold, impetuous young man who assumes that, because he's really good at killing guys, everyone fears him and respects him. His biggest weakness is his pride, which mostly manifests in his dismissal of and underestimation of his enemies.
>Demand the leader of the enemy to name himself and for the other soldiers to retreat all the way back to the other side of the pass"Tell your men to retreat to the other side of the pass, Sir!" you shout, moving your horse forward. "Name yourself! We will not parley until then!"The leader of the pass smiles.“You must be General Zhu Xing. Your cautiousness is well-advised, but if I had wanted your heads, I would have laid an ambush here and kept this pass shut tight. No doubt your tired troops would not be able to break through. However, I understand your demand and I shall follow them.”The man motions for the troops to do as the demand was given. You order a soldier to follow through and see that all the soldiers have moved to the other side of the pass as instructed, and that no traps are laid. When he returns and confirms all is in good order, you look back at the leader of the group.“I am Chen Gong, styled Gongtai. Please, follow me in.”Your soldiers enter the pass and take the time to rest. You and Lu Bu follow Chen Gong to a small room inside the pass and seat yourselves at a table. Chen Gong has wine and food brought over.“Let me get to the point Sirs. You are in a perilous situation, and my advice is to head towards Xu Chang. Most of the lords in the Central Plains and north are mistrustful and would likely not tolerate your force. And I believe General Zhu Xing is from Xu Chang, so we will have an easier time recuperating there. The army should rest there for half a year, you should gather more men to your side, and then you may plan your next move there.”Lu Bu rubs his chin.“I cannot find much fault in the plan. And I do not think we have very much options here. What do you say, Zhu Xing?”>Accept is the best course of action>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord instead
>>32811933>>32812015At least we have influence over Lu Bu and can dissuade him from some of his stupider decisions. He was pretty receptive to the feint attack last time and I'm sure we can continue to work him since we know how to flatter him.
>>32811969>Any advice given by him will be completely ignored from now on.Let's not deal in absolutes. Defeat in that battle was just as much our fault as it was Lu Bu's, so to completely ignore every bit of advice of his seems like an ignorant way to act, especially toward someone our character looks to as a faithful friend
>>32811969You see, thats the thing.Alot of the players appear to at least be passingly familiar with ROTK or DW. That Lu Bu is not a good general is something that most folks should know.I just dont see the reason why we needed to try it out. In fact, at the end of that post, Zhu Xing even wondered if we should withdraw. I believe that was our Int speaking at that point.>>32811990Indeed though. I'm fine with this, despite how much fun a loyal and legitimate faction with the emperor's backing would have been. This'll be my last post on the issue.>>32812051>Accept is the best course of action
>>32812051>>Accept is the best course of actionXu Chang is in Yu Province right? Who's the governor there right now? Regardless, it doesn't look like we have much of a choice. If this dude is our friend, we can at least rebuild our troops and go from there.
>>32812051>Accept is the best course of actionYeah, we can't do much with 2k troops
>>32812051>Xu ChangHe is right that we cannot trust the central plains lords, but going to Xu Chang is not necessarily the best move. However, I also don't see much of an alternative, so I think we should heed his advice.
>>32812084Xu Chang is Cao Cao's base of operations and capital.
>>32812051>>Accept is the best course of actionWrite In: Ask why Cheng Gong is helping us. His advice seems to be good one, but we would like to know why he's helping us.
>>32812118Is it? I know he ends up there eventually, but right now?It wouldn't make sense for Gongtai to be sending us to serve Cao Cao, considering.
>>32812125I also vote for this
>>32812137I...I'm not sure.I don't even know the current date to check against.
>>32812118I know that's where he sets up eventually, but is he the current governor? I think Liu Dai might still be the governor.
>>32812051>>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord insteadThis leads us to siding with cao cao.I sure hope you guys don't do that.
>>32812125Yep, defiantly this, so used to Chen Gong being with Lu Bu that I forgot he isn't with us right now
>>32812051>>32812125Voting for this
>>32812051>Object, and state your army should move to take refuse with another warlord insteadWe should head for Wu instead. Cao Cao a shit.
>>32812166Dong Zhuo died slightly ahead of schedule. We're in the very early 190s I think. 191-192 or so?
>>32812051>Accept is the best course of actionWe need to pull back and regroup. Gather what forces we have left and turn our resting camp into a war preparations area. Supplies stockpiles, training areas, workshops and forges to build war gear and various available war machines and the like. When the time comes, we must have planed out and prepped for a nationwide campaign
>>32812197I'd follow Cao Cao.If we can, I'd like to see what happens if china is unified while he is still alive.
>>32812169No we don't have to side with cao cao, if it follows history then we will likely start wrecking cao cao's shit when he goes to fight Yaun Shao.
>>32812166>>32812137>>32812118>>32812169Hey guys, no offense but can we please try to not metagame this?
>>32812197We may not be going to Cao Cao y'know.
>>32812225Anon, we've heard news of what warlords in various parts of the country are doing.Knowing where their base of operations should NOT be metagaming but common knowledge.
>>32812226>cheng gong is the messenger>not being the cao cao pathI don't think you get how this qm does things.
>>32812197Wu hasn't formed yet, they are still with Yaun Shu and he isn't someone you want to trust unless you feel like letting Lu Bu's daughter marry someone else.
>>32812169>>32812197Anons, we don't have to pledge our loyalty to the warlord who rules over Xu Chang (which might not be Cao Cao depending on the year) We are going there to recuperate and rebuild our army. We can choose whether to go independent or follow a lord from there. We need troops to get better offers from the lords anyway.Besides Xu Chang is our character's hometown and he will be able to recruit more easily there.
>>32812218I'm not sure it'd be possible to unify China in that era. Short of a victory at Chi Bi, which is basically impossible without metagaming or somehow preventing Guo Si's illness, I don't think Cao Wei had what it takes just in terms of resources.
>>32812197No reason we can't become friendly with Wu later. If we can establish ourselves as an independent warlord, we might not have to serve any of the yet to be formed three kingdoms.Though I agree that Wu is preferable to Wei if it comes down to it.
As a reminder, if you lose 30% of your fighting force in any one conflict, it is basically considered dead and you should retreat and regroup. Also, it takes about 6 times as much men to besiege a fortified position barring trickery or other environmental factors.
>>32812250Thing is, with us around, we're likely to avoid liu bei, or if we room with him, persuade lu bu to not take over his county.We do this and hes likely to never take up arms to be a warlord.
>>32812246>Chen Gong is the messengerRight. The guy who decided he'd rather be killed than serve Cao Cao. Chen Gong abandoned Cao Cao before the coalition was formed.
>>32812245That is fair, but does our character know enough about Cao Cao to make the decision of whether it might be a good idea to serve under him?
>>32812265Thought it was three times? "To take a city of 20,000, we'll need a force of at least 60,000 elite soldiers" and all that.
>>32812252Sun Jian hasn't die yet I believe, so there is no Wu right now, just a force serving Yaun Shu.
>>32812291Hes gotta be better than Dongs.Can't get any worse than that.Our force doesn't really have much of a choice though. We can be easily destroyed by anyone.
>>32812302Which makes the decision by Chang An to refuse Fan Chou's defection even more suicidal in retrospect. 10:1 odds is guaranteed death. Any other option would have been better.
I think we are all missing something important here.Mah equipment store
>>32812322No argument there
>>32812355We'll not speak of that name again until the moment we put his head on a pike and parade it around
>>32812357It doesn't matter if we ask to buy stuff. QM completely ignored us last thread when we did.
>>32812322Cao Cao is a fine fall-back option. The man's a Hero Collector. Prove yourself astoundingly competent and he'll definitely reward you.He's just also the default option. He's two-star difficulty at best. Wouldn't it be more fun to win on five-star difficulty?
>>32812379But he was just an NPC, anon. You can't expect him to be competent when he's on our side.
>>32812385We already lost the 5 star difficulty.
>>32812385>Wouldn't it be more fun to win on five-star difficulty?Damn straight.
>>32812385That depends on your definition of winning this quest, because things didn't exactly go completely well for Cao Cao and the kingdom of Wei
>>32812408Nope, it's now a 6 star difficulty. No guts, no glory.
Did we lose the kettle? Please tell me we still have the kettle
>>32812426He forms the foundation of Jin. I'd say that counts as a victory.
>>32812426Well enough. Jin is pretty much just Wei. It didn't go well for the Caos, but I'd argue it turned out just fine for Wei.
>>32812439WE STILL HAVE THE KETTLE
You heard it here RaianUP THE DIFFICULTY
>>32812432You want to do this right, we hide with Cao Cao until the emperor gets out.Wei saves the emperor, we break him out from the control of Wei to refound a faction away from Cao Caos control.Thats the 10 star difficulty.
>>32812458FUCK YES! Now we can give Lu Linqi our Kettle :D
>>32812475Why would she care about us? We're a terrible commander and have already insulted her sense of worth.
>Accept is the best course of actionYou nod at Lu Bu."I cannot find fault with the plan either. My family in Xu Chang will be hospitable, and Xu Chang has yet to be taken by the other lords. It is a good city where we will be able to gather more men and supplies."Lu Bu nods, but looks back at Chen Gong. He places an elbow on the table, hand on his chin."Tell me Gongtai. Why do you wish to help us? You could have taken our heads and received a reward." Chen Gong bows."General, you are the man that killed the villain Dong Zhuo and unparalleled in might. You also have doughty warriors by your side, and have the potential to unify the land. You however lack advisers and strategists. I believe that by following you, I may find a place for myself. The other lords are petty and power hungry. While you, General, may act impulsively at times, I believe that only you act true of heart and do not hide behind a mask. I will state here and now that I wish for you to use me for your future plans, and I will use you to seek a unified land."Lu Bu laughs. He seems satisfied and content with the answer despite the last statement which may have been offensive. In any case, the plan is set and you and Lu Bu retire for the night as Chen Gong shows both of you to the quarters.As morning comes, Lu Bu's army moves toward Xu Chang along with Chen Gong and his entourage now in tow. It takes a few days, but soon the army is at the gates of Xu Chang. Chen Gong implores your troops to wait before he heads inside Xu Chang to speak with the governor, and after a few hours, the gates are opened up your troops enter.
>>32812250Pretty sure they had the resources. However, what they should have done is not concentrate their forces at one point, or tie their boats together. Seriously, why would you purposefully eliminate the two advantages you have in battle.
>>32812487Because Lu Lingqi is our waifu, didn't you read the other threads?We abandoned accessible and attractive Cai Yan (the poet lady) for Lu Bu's daughter!
>>32812508We left her in a burning city too.
>>32812495Chen Gong explains to you and Lu Bu and he convinced the magistrate your army could conquer the city if they were not allowed in. That instead of a battle, the army could safeguard Xu Chang from other lords and destroy and bandits that are beginning to rise in these times. You can see that Chen Gong is a talented man... You and Lu Bu should likely listen to him from hereon.The soldiers are ordered to find quarters within the city barracks and some inns, but to make no trouble for the people of Xu Chang. Most of the people Your family is here. Perhaps you should go see them. Whatever you do, afterward, you will be recuperating here for half a year.>Go see your family>Go see how Lu Bu is doing>Go see how Chen Gong is doing>Go see how Lingqi is doing
>>32812508And she thinks we're shit on a stick. So not our waifu so much as our unrequited crush.
>>32812518>>Go see your familyLet's go see our little brother and sister
>>32812518>Go see your familyFamily is best
>>32812518>>otherPay our respects to the magistrate for allowing us in
>>32812471>Tactical Wei infiltrationHoly shit this sounds rad. And suicidal.
>>32812518>>Go see how Lingqi is doing
>>32812518>Go see how Lingqi is doing"I apologise for how I treated you in front of your father, however I did not mean to underestimate you, I merely did not wish to insult your father's decision too much"Give her the kettle
>>32812536This.Before other things are done, find out who is in charge.
>>32812518Go see Lingqi.Arrange for our family to be introduced to Lu Bu at some point in this six month gap.
>>32812518>go see your famury
>>32812518>>Go see how Lingqi is doingWaifu first.
>>32812518>Go see your familyNow is not the time for waifuing, we'll just make a bad impression on her.
>>32812518Visit the magistrate, then reunite with our family.We are a pious, honorable man, and that includes filial piety.
>>32812518Go see the fams. Get our little brother some gear and get our little sister married off to someone respectable, like Chen Gong or Lu Bu himself.
>>32812518>Go see how Lingqi is doing
>>32812518>Go see your familyIf we can pay respects to magistrates first, that's fine too, but family is the most important thing.
>>32812518BUY STUFFSeriously.Raian, are you going to continue to make purchasing equipment cost one turn?If so....we buy shit. Now.If not.....we buy shit and then visit Family
>>32812495Could we send a contingent of 500 or so troops back to the pass and fortify it to prevent the enemy from taking our back? I want them to suffer Thermopile level causalities if they try it
>>32812556I seriously doubt that acting politely toward her and giving her a tea kettle will improve her opinion of us anon
>>32812595>expecting us to ever be able to upgrade equipmentit's like you haven't been following this quest
>>32812585She's 15, while I understand you can marry off girls her age in ancient China, we can afford to wait a bit on that. Lu Bu has Diao Chan so we don't want to marry her off to Lu Bu since she won't be the main wife. Let's wait for a more promising marriage.
>>32812518>>Go see how Lingqi is doingWe need to at least apologize to her.
>>32812595>>32812614You guys complain too much.We have half a year or so.Lets see if we get more pay for 'defending this place'. We can do purchases after we've gotten a bit more cash, after some time has passed.
>>32812518>>Go see your familyWhy do you think apologizing to Lingqi will upgrade her opinion of you?Her personality is easy to read. She's mini-Lu Bu with a complex about her gender. She doesn't care about your apologies or your kettle.
>>32812585>get our little sister married off to someone respectableFuck that, see if we cant get Lingqi to teach our sister how to use a spear.
>>32812635We have cash now.But whether or not buying equipment takes a full turn is important.Because if it still does....then we need to make damn sure we spend a turn to at least get us some better damn armor.If not, we need to make sure we still do it to get us at least some better damn armor.We still have a good pile of gold to spend.
>>32812518>>Go see your familyDam I missed a lot. Good to see we are alive and still kick some ass.
>>32812518>Go see your familyFamily is everything in this age of china Maybe pick up some gifts for them
>>32812681> still kick some ass.not so much
>>32812664>But whether or not buying equipment takes a full turn is important.It does.http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/32683252/#32687729>What do you do? (Buying equipment now WILL take a turn)
>>32812655ThisLet's have our little sister become a warrior like her big bro so that when our current character inevitably dies in battle we can continue to kick ass
>>32812699Welp, that guarantees we will never buy equipment.
>>32812664Iron Armor, Blade, and Bow are still my top choices.That should give us two edges in a duel, raise our WAR to 86, and give us legitimate armor to avoid minor wounds.
>>32812718I still want us to get that goddamned banner
>>32812689I .. c-can.. dream. But joking a side, We are alive and we have a chance to rebuild.
>>32812699Turns are already painfully stupid. 3 months and we can have one conversation with one guy?Equipment gives tiny bonuses. Choosing to get equipment over building up social links is suicidal.
>>32812718We're mainly fighting from horseback now.Would the spear be a better choice than the sword?Thinking of lu xun style warrior mode.
>>32812718We have been getting minor wounds fairly often, Iron armor would probably fix that
>>32812767The Spear doesn't give additional Wound Effect in a duel. Spear only gives +2 War, compared to Blade's +1 and advantage in duel.
>>32812750So we do it at one shot.We spend a couple of turns doing social links and helping the people, see if we get more pay.Either way, we then do some purchases after.
>>32812782>implying the items are the sameWe were at the capital before. The items here will probably be worse.
>>32812801We can't, we don't know how many turns we get before we get thrown into a battle or an event. We need to buy on the first turn to ensure we actually get to an shop.
>>32812767Spear? Might as we'll get a Glaive then
>>32812699Except at the end of the last thread, we asked if he could revise it to NOT take a full turn, as that was one of the major complaints.Aside from the butthurt autists complaining that we lost a battle
>>32812822We have half a year though.
>>32812822And that comes at the cost of being able to possibly influence the battle.Item shops taking a turn mean we will not ever use item shops, it's pretty much that simple.
>>32812818It could be better as well, this was the "new" capital and the merchants and peasants were suffering from Dong Zhuo being Dong Zhuo.
>>32812835So, two turns.
>>32812833>butthurt autists complaining that we lost a battleYes, that was obviously what the shitstorm was about.
>>32812518>>Go see how Chen Gong is doingWe need to set up a tutoring schedule because our 63 intelligence isn't cutting it.
>>32812881I think the shitstorm was more over losing the capital than the battle we fought but fuck it that's in the past now
>>32812895We didn't even get to see our waifu due to samefags, anon. Chen Gong isn't ever being visited.
>Go see your family You got to see your family first. It would speak ill for you to ignore your own clan, especially when you are the head of it. (Cha +2, Pol +2)Your little brother and sister welcome you. Your little brother is a handsome man and has taken care of the clan while you were away. He is not a warrior like you, but he has a good head and does management work well. He has not found a woman yet, and you think that he will be essential to making connections with other noble families.Your little sister is young, obedient, and beautiful. She is at the time of marriage (During this time period anyway) and she should also be essential to making connections with other families.“Welcome... Welcome elder brother,” Zhu Yang says as he clasps your hand. “I heard what happened at Chang An, and was worried you would have not returned to us.”“Thank the spirits that you are safe...” your sister, Yue, says putting her arms around you. “You must be tired. Please rest while you can.”The day goes by as you spend your time with your family.
>>32812903Thats the problem with the faction we founded though.To avoid the historical path we took, we needed to do some very specific counters to avoid the faction dying.
>>32812929A month passes. Your army is still recuperating and recovering. You should take this time to see the markets and find better equipment. >Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Rattan Armor: 150 gold (+1 War, Very strong and light against blades and arrows. More injuries from fire however, and you look like a barbarian)>Black Blaze 100 gold (Horse, slightly fast and strong)>White Mark 200 (Horse, +1 War, fast and strong)>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better) >Treaties on the State: 150 gold (+5 Pol) >Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)>Army Banner: 75 gold (Lea +1)>Silk Robes: 100 gold (+3 Cha)
>>32812929Marrying sister when?
>>32812935No, Raian just needed to come up with a scenario that didn't require our side to be flat suicidal or make decisions like retards.
>>32812944>>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)
>>32812944Whispering BladeFamily Banneriron Armor
>>32812935We already diverged in some ways. Cao Cao doesn't have Xu Chang, Chen Gong joined us extremely early on. >>32812944>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)
>>32812944>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)
>>32812949Nope, were turning her into a warrior so she can be our backup PC
>>32812944>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)Guys, reinforced iron armor is probably a better investment than whispering blade.
>>32812944>Art of War: 200 gold (Lea +2, Int +2)Holy shit, the Art of War by Sun Tzu. We desperately need this to ba a better tactician and strategist and to boost our INT.
>>32812944>>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)>>Wind Bow: 100 gold (Chance of wounding enemy officer in duels as a separate check)>>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)
>>32812944>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold (+2 War)>>Family Banner: 100 gold (+2 Pol, People recognize your clan better and your fame grows slight better)
>>32812971I'm in favor of this. Bitchin' armor to go with our badass officer killing bow
>>32812944>>Whispering Blade: 100 gold (+1 War, Better chance to injure in duels)>>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)>>>Gliding Spear: 100 gold (+2 War)
>>32813007Yeah, better armor and a bow sounds good. We'll become a mini-Flying General.
>>32812979I prefer this to the heavier armor.
>>32812979The marginal utility of going from +1 armor to +2 armor is very low as compared to going from no sword to whispering blade.Everyone voting for the reinforced armor is making a bad decision.
>>32812944>>Reinforced Iron Armor: 150 gold>Whispering Blade: 100 goldI like the better melee my self. But is not I will back >>32812971
No family banner?I am disappointed
>>32813012Thought with the demoralized state of our army, investing in a number of Army Banners would do well to raise moral
>>32813071>no swordWe have a standard issue sword
What happens to our old armor when we upgrade? Do we pawn it in for half its original cost?
>>32813071I disagree. There's clearly an unwritten benefit to having stronger (see all the wounds we have taken). The WAR benefit comes out to a wash, but the difference might be additional surviviability in both duels and army battles versus an additional wound check in duels. I choose the former.
>>32812979Fuck heavier armor. For all we know that'll make things harder.
>>32812944>Reinforced Iron Armor>Whispering BladeOR>Reinforced Iron Armor>Wind BowWe either go blade-master or bow-master route>Captcha choose helptenWe must find this "ten" and help them!
>>32812944Wait, how much gold do we have to work with anyway? Was some of it lost with the city?
>>32813145We'll get those eventually.>>32813167280
>>32813119So you're basing your decision on guesses as opposed to the actual stats we see. Sigh. /tg/. Oh, and >>32812979Backing this.
>>32813125Unlikely.The Iron armor is probably going to be similar to lamellar which is still light, but much stronger.It's also the go-to for officers.
>>32812944> everyone buffing our war stat when its already stupidly high.Reinforced Iron Armour and Army Banner.
>>32813145To Ten! or something
>>32813111We should give it one of our siblings
I love the samefagging.
>>32813119Of course as that choice is based on assumptions that have no backing, what you should really be doing is asking the QM for a simple stat clarification.
>>32813145You don't know Ten, the strategist girl from Kingdom?
Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.180 gold left.Votes are pretty equal on Whispering Blade or Wind Bow. Vote on one of them, or for something else.
>>32813221>Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.wut.
>>32813208>people are choosing things I don't want!>must be samefagging!Here's some herp for your derping
>>32813221>Iron Armor: 70 gold (+1 War, It's better than the Leather Armor...)It's 70 gold, we can buy both.
>>32813246Yeah, in which case we buy both.
>>32813221>Iron armor is bought. -100 gold.What.That cost doesn't even correspond to reinforced or plain iron armour.WHAT did we buy.>>32813233Please. Look at the timestamps of 1min and plus few seconds between posts saying support.Frankly i don't care.
>>32813221>>32813246There's no need for a vote then, since iron armor won, the votes say that we should buy both bow and sword. Mah Reinforced Armor
>>32813221>Going with both. I was hoping for the best we could get for armor, But o well.
>>32813221...don't you mean Reinforced Iron Armor?That got the most votes.So our gold should be at 130.Anyway...>Whispering Blade
>>32813221Raian, can we get a clarification on if buying better armor makes us less susceptible to wounds?Are the wounds we take based on failed WAR rolls or our armor?
>>32813221I'll vote for Blade as our roll averages suck to make me leery of the extra roll for the bow
>>32813221Wipsering blade and family banner
>>32813266Wait, if we can buy both then I'm definitely changing >>32813247To both
>>32813221Wind Bow and Family Banner
>>32813221If we can buy both, then both. If not, then the whispering blade.
>>32813221Both >>32813281What's the worst that can happen? Averages make it really difficult for us to get a really shitty role.The worst that happens is we miss the initial shot.
>>32813277Yes. Better armor will better protect you from wounds. Don't expect it to break every sword and arrow thrown at you however.>Whispering Blade>Window Boy-200 gold. Wait for next update.
>>32813246Raian, in cases like this try final destination voting.A number of the votes appeared suspect due to timestamp and minor variations.In any case, this is a minor thing so i'm not too worried about this vote.
>>32813330We will need to train well in our new gear.
>>32813336>implying final destinaton can't be samefagged
>>32813330>>Window BoyA BOY.WHATEVER WILL WE DO TO A LITTLE BOY
>>32813330Did we just buy a shota?
>>32813350He knifes people from our back. He just holds on and jumps on people to stab them.
>>32813350Throw him at the enemy and hop they act like Catholic Priests
>>32813375We are Wolf and Cub now
>>32813330Raian, this is a minor point. But shouldn't the Pastebin be >War: 84 (+2)And not >War: 85 (+1)Since the equipment is +2?
>>32813401A better question is if whether the number for>War: 85 (+1)Is the 85 before or after the equipment plus.
>>32813460I assumed that we were still at 84 since that's where we were last thread and we haven't seen a [War +1]
>>32813481That would be correct yes.However, that info isnt available to anyone who might be new to the quest.Raian needs to make it clearer.
Time passes. You hear about the other lords. Cao Cao has taken much of Yuzhou province, and you wonder if he plans to take Xu Chang next. It doesn't matter too much either way as your army does not plan to stay for longer.Sun Jian perished while fighting with Liu Biao under Yuan Shu's orders. They say Sun Jian's son is a fine warrior and continues to serve Yuan Shu.In the north, Yuan Shao and Gongsun Zan fought for a while before they made a truce. Yuan Shao plans to unify his surrounding areas and fights against bandits.You have a turn to do some actions. You remember your army is technically here as a mercenary force. >Visit someone of importance (Choose)>Train a stat (Choose)>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work
>>32813504>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary workGotta build up a peasant army
>>32813504>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary workLets get a work out and maybe new troops.
>>32813504>>Train a stat (int)since it's obviously the god stat of this quest
>>32813504>Visit someone of importance (Choose)Chen Gong
>>32813504>>Attack the local bandits for money and mercenary work
>>32813504Changed my mind on >>32813532Switching to >>Visit someone of importance (Cheng Gong)About where we should go, how we should plan our next moves, and to boost our intelligence.
>all these people voting for going out to attackSure hope you like the burned ruins of Xu Chang when we get back.
No one voting for lingqi or lu bu. Looks like it's mission accomplished, Raian.
>>32813460It's updated. If it doesn't look right, it means I haven't gotten to it and fixed everything yet. Be patient, as I am doing various things at once. The War stat is updated, the ones in parenthesis is how much items are increasing it. So right now, 86 (+2) is naturally a 84 War.>why turns are in months, why officer visits take a full turnSo I can move things faster and things proceed at a better pace. Lords during these times rested for years at times, fought for another few years at times without much gain, and things didn't pan out in a matter of days and weeks. I need to keep the game pace and years rolling. If I used turns by every single day, we would get nowhere.
>>32813504>>Visit someone of importance (Lu Bu)Sempai is probably depressed.
>>32813504>>Visit someone of importance (lingqi)We need heirs
>>32813550>Time passes. You hear about the other lords. Cao Cao has taken much of Yuzhou province, and you wonder if he plans to take Xu Chang next. It doesn't matter too much either way as your army does not plan to stay for longer.Yes, I'm sure Cao Cao is planning to burn down Xu Chang instead of taking it intact.
>>32813531Supporting.Merc work is one thing, but we need long term plans for power.
>>32813605No Raian, I'm just pointing out that it can look confusing to someone who is new to the quest.A better notation would be:Base + Equipment = Totalto make it absolutely clear without misunderstandings.
>>32813504>Visit someone of importance (Lingqi)Ask her if she'll train our sister to be a warrior.That ought to play to her pride.
>>32813504>Visit someone of importance:Cheng GongIf we want to keep Lu Bu sempai alive, we should probably visit the smart guy for future plans. Waifu can come when we are have some plans for the future.
>>32813531Chang Gong will get us places.We need those places
>>32813661>We need those placesPeople voting for Chang Gong confirmed as gay
>>32813504I wanted to do a job and show them we got skill. But fine I will change my vote >>32813529 to >Visit Chen Gong
>>32813504>Visit Chen Gong
>>32812956/tg/ can't military tactic/strategy out of a paper bag.Seriously. Diversionary maneuvers were the oldest trick in the book back in the Three Kingdoms era.
>>32813702Raian is a credit to GMs
WAIT A MINUTEWe need a couple of officers by our side
>>32813726When our garrison at Chang an decided to take the guaranteed death of a 10:1 battle rather than a 12:10 battle with the possibility of betrayal, they were acting like suicidal retards.When Fan Chou was so utterly incompetent as to be unable to get a single messenger to us beforehand BECAUSE HE IS AN NPC, raian is just dressing up a railroad with the illusion of choice.
>>32813726Our int even advised us to fall back after the first attack.We decided to attack. /tg/ is not smart.
>>32813742Bring Lu Bu's daughter
>>32813792Will Lu Bu allow this?
>>32813801Bring Lu Bu too!
>>32813504>Visit someone of importance (Choose)Chen Gong. We need a plan and a very cunning plan.Wish we could also summon all of the officers under our command to make a grand strategy meeting (and hopefully see if Zhang Liao is alive and about).
>>32813742Can we bring the kettle with us?
>>32813858Can we bring the Window Boy with us?
>>32813864>implying we're ever apart
>>32813770>>32813787I distinctly remember someone going on in the last thread about how Lu Bu's stats in the RoTK games were skewed towards combat and not towards the brainy side of war.WAR and LDR were his good stats, CHR-INT-and-POL were more or less completely nonexistent for Lu Bu.We have to be the defensive variant of Lu Bu.We cannot go charging into melee like he does.We cannot pursue Lu Bu.
>>32813858Is the kettle an officer?
>>32813878We're not going to be any variant of Lu Bu after the revelations last thread. We're going down the int path now.Which means no lingqi waifu, but oh well.
>>32813881No she is our kettle
>>32813878We did that to some success last thread. The strategy where we held the line while Lu Bu did a feint and hit them in the flank worked out pretty well. Of course, then we went full Lu Bu and straight up charged a fortified position with 2x our numbers. But we are learning!
Wait, did we lose the kettle?
>Visit Chen GongYou remember the new addition to your force. He is acting as the main adviser for now but you know little about him besides that he seems quite resourceful. Perhaps you should make friends with him, or at the very least get to know him better.You ask for the whereabouts of Chen Gong and you find out that is doing business with the merchants. You head to his location, where you find him negotiating with some businessmen as was told. "The price is 50 taels.. No more, no less," the businessman says."You take me for a fool, Sir. I know that the harvest has been good this year for Xu Chang and the supply of grains for now is high, the demand low. The acceptable price is 30 taels."The two discuss more, and in the end, Chen Gong manages to buy supplies for your army at a lower price. Quite a shrewd man... You walk to him when the business is done. He bows when he sees you and smiles."Sir Zhu, how does your day go?"What shall you say?(Unless you would rather make me place options, conversation shall be generally more free-form from now on. Choose and vote on something to say)
>>32813915>worked out pretty well.No, it was just status quo + 1 day. We could've just sat there and it would've been the same.
>>32813943"Sir Gong, if it is of no trouble, could we speak? I wish to get to know you better if you are to help us in our future endeavors."
>>32813943Ask him to train our int.
>>32813943Not well I must say. I was at one of the highest seats of power in all of the 3 kingdoms and in less than a months time I have fell so low and hardThis lesson is painful to learn
>>32813943Bow."Cheng Gong, I am not a man of long words or politics, so I will get to the point, please help us re-take Chang An and save the Emperor once more"
>>32813943After initial polite greetings, we should compliment him on his shrewedness. If we haven't already, thank him for helping us get into Xu Chang by negotiating with the governor. Ask whether he has plans for where we are to go after we leave Xu Chang since Cao Cao approachs.Ask him if he would be willing to educate you in his spare him to learn more about military tactics so that you can better serve Lu Bu. That's general conversation ideas, none of which should be repeated in verbatim obviously.
>>32813943Options would be good as a guide but leave in the>write-inoption.>>32813974This is good though.
>>32813998>all of the 3 kingdomsThe three kingdoms don't exist yet.
>>32813943Ask him for lessons to raise our Int stat.
>>32813943>>32813974This is probably the safest conversation starter. People's ideas about future plans and intelligence training are good though
>>32814032Oh god I totally forgot
>>32813998>>32814032Yep, we're technically still in the latter part of the Eastern Han dynasty.Three Kingdoms officially start after Cao Pi overthrows the last Han Emprah and declares himself Emprah of Cao Wei.
>>32813943I will back this >>32813974Then we get into more question after we learn more about the guy.
>>32813974One thing to note - the best bet in terms of respect is to refer to someone by their style name. In Chen Gong's case this is Gongtai, so his form of address would be Chen Gongtai. For Lu Bu his style name is Fengxian, so his style is Lu Fengxian (although we're good friends so referring to him by his adult name is still fine)
>>32813974This, its broad enough to allow for any topic we wish to pursue with him.
>>32814130Except that Raian has consistently finished entire conversations after one vote. So we're probably not going to get any other topics.
>>32814141citation please.We've had multiple choices when we have conversations with folks we visit or folks that visit us.
>>32814156The second conversation with Lu Bu and Cai Wen were both 1 topic. The only conversation we did have that spanned more was the first lu bu one.
>>32814169What, do you want to spend the entire fucking session just chatting with someone for hours?
>>32814169bullshit, we went through 2 choices for the lu bu conversation.The joke one that produced the furor and the one where we got him to go after dong zhuo
>>328141411. no he hasn't 2. quit being a negative bunny I'm trying to enjoy a quest here.
>>32814183Lu bu conversation was 1.what's wrong?->2.Betray/don't betraycai wen was 1.poetry->2.waifu/don't waifu
>>32814210Thats still not one vote
>>32814216And you'll note i said one topic, not vote. Or not, since my opinion on the intelligence of people in this quest is quite low.
>>32814210Cai wen was:Greet/don't greet -> Invite her in/tell her to go -> Ask about her? -> waifu or notstop spreading rubbish
>>328142102 choices will be more than enough for our conversation with Cheng Gong.
>>32814228>>32814141>Except that Raian has consistently finished entire conversations after one voteotherwise you're just shifting the goalposts to fit what you want.
>>32814258Yes, ignore the part after that. You fit in this quest pretty well.
>"Sir Gong, if it is of no trouble, could we speak? I wish to get to know you better if you are to help us in our future endeavors."Chen Gong laughs in good nature to your remark and places a hand behind your back."Why not. I am returning to my quarters, and we may speak as we walk."You both proceed to walk down the streets of Xu Chang. You can see that Xu Chang is a flourishing city with a good population and big markets. The people are content as always, and you are glad to have been born here.In any case, what do you say to Chen Gong?>Ask him about his past and origins>Ask him about his interests and hobbies>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far>other, write-ins
>>32814301>>Ask him about his past and origins
>>32814301>>other, write-insAsk him to train our int
>>32814301>Ask him about his AMBITION
>>32814301>Ask him about his past and origins
>>32814314this it's somewhat Inane but we're getting to know him & there are almost certainly eye's & ears on the streets>>32814318prehaps later in a more secure location
>>32814301>>Ask him about his interests and hobbiesTime to waifu Cheng Gong
>>32814334>more secure locationWe plotted a rebellion in a bar. I don't think we need to shadowrun this.
>>32814301>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so farObviously the correct choice.
>>32814342>The gay agenda comes out of the closet.
>>32814301>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so farI wish to know of your past deeds and what you think what our group should do next.
>>32814169Considering that the first was a critical one to engage a major plot point and that the second was a courtesy call.I don't see anything wrong with that.>>32814301>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far
>>32814334Oh please, we talked to Lu Bu about betraying Dong in a damn Tavern!Supporting asking about his ambitions.
>>32814349considering how we fucked up last quest admittedly with help from OP we should probably
>>32814301>Ask him about his past and origins.>Other (Ambition)"In our first conversation, you mentioned that you wished to see a unified land. Do you mean a unified land under the banner of the Han dynasty? Or..." (purposefully trail off and look at him)
>>32814301>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so farWe obviously care a lot about our city and it would be good to see what type of work he has performed.
>>32814301>>32814301>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so farAlso if we leave are we going to evacuate our family or assume they'll be fine when Cao Cao comes?
>>32814370True, assuming the QM is out to fuck us would probably serve us better in this quest.
>>32814369We're walking back to his damn house.We can ask him there later.
>>32814301>>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so far
>>32814318We need to go places, and so does he.
>>32814389So...Cao Cao probably has agents in town already, replaying information to him. We'll have to assume he has an army ready to skullfuck us the moment we leave the city.
>>32814301>>Ask him about his past and originsWe can ask him the other stuff at his place in privacy.
>>32814390Lu bu, treason, tavern, etc etc.
>>32814428People know better than to approach lu bu when drunk.What of a scholar?
>>32814301>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang>Then ask him if he can teach us war tactics.
>>32814409We have Cheng Gong, whose job is to plan for these things. Guess we'll see if he's any good or not then.
>>32814318This, since I'd rather not waifu cheng gong.
>>32814318Haha, time for AMBITION
>>32814428yeah & look where that got us a thread later.
>>32814409If Sangokushi was anything to go by, yeah, Cao Cao had a shit-ton of spies in every goddamn city.Call me paranoid but I'm suspecting a possible attack from Cao Cao's army in the near future.
>>32814301 >>Ask him about his past and origins
>>32814443A scholar would know what is to best be talked about in public or not.
>>32814318We need to find out if he's worth keeping around, so I'll back this.
>>32814301>Ask him about his past and originsas >>32814334 said It's likely we're bein watched
>>32814471Exactly.So all this does is waste time and make him think of us as a fool.
>>32814457>Later>In a completely separate incident
>>32814471Unless if you're Pang Tong. Brotha-man pulled pranks in public like no tomorrow (and served as a drunken magistrate under Liu Bei 'til Zhuge Liang wrote a letter to Liu Bei saying that Pang Tong's better used in a bigger position).
>>32814318That'll tell us more about the man than any of these other inane questions.
>>32814495dumbshit we were so focused on Fan chou that we were completely oblivious to any other factor in the battle & that all started in the Coup
>>32814520Yes, so completely focused on fan chou that the only action our character did to find him was to send out one messenger to look. in spite of the entire thread begging QM to let us find himThat entire messenger scene was a pretty big 'fuck you' from him to us.
>>32814318This because its cheesy as hell, and something I can totally see happening in a Dynasty Warriors cutscene
Rolled 4>>32814543May I recommend tiger balm for your sore butt hole?
>>32814543If you are so bitter about it, why are you still following the quest?Are you actually enjoying the experience like others are?
>Ask him about the work he has done in Xu Chang so farYou are interested to know what he has been doing this whole time. You just saw him shrewdly doing business, perhaps he has been doing equally impressive acts. You ask of his actions."Ahhh... Logistical work, dealing with the magistrate, getting more volunteers to our side," he remarks. "I have been buying equipment for our troops and some grains. Xu Chang is a city of commerce as you may very well know. It is somewhat difficult dealing with these lot, but I manage. The magistrate is of course, suspicious of us. What man not be when an army is stationed here? Appeasing him, solving some problems of the city, making sure we won't be kicked out soon... And getting some of the other ministers to out side," he remarks with a smile and a telling tone. You can partly tell from his words that Chen Gong has bought over some of the other administrators of this city as to keep your force intact."Do you ask because you are suspicious of me?" he asks with a smile. >Deny, state that you trust him as a part of this force>Admit there are some suspicions, but nothing serious >Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combat>other, write-in
>>32814595>>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combatAnd let this lead into him training our INT
>>32814543Get ogre it
>>32814595WhyWhy not ambition?
>>32814595>>Admit there are some suspicions, but nothing seriousCan't be too careful of new acquaintances now can we?
>>32814595>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combatwe need to keep our cards close to us, even if we are sure they support us.
Rolled 11>>32814595>>Admit there are some suspicions, but nothing serious"I would be a fool to not have some. Hence why I wish to know you better."
>>32814595>>Admit there are some suspicions, but nothing seriousHe applauded our shrewdness before. Let us be straightforward with him.
>>32814595>Deny, state that you trust him as a part of this forceI think we should show a little gratitude to the man. His actions largely saved our force
>>32814595>>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combatIt's good to know about new friends and allies.
>>32814595>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combatConfess that you are ignorant on most of these matters, and are simply looking for guidance so that you can improve.
Okay fellasWe gotta ascertain who is loyal to the Han emperor and who is notWe fight for the Emprah Therefore we must muster up forces to take back Chang An
>>32814595>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combat"After all, even the mightiest ambitions cannot be realized without supplies and men."
>>32814595>Admit there are some suspicions, but nothing seriousWe gotta be a little honest with the guy. After all, we can play it off by saying something along the lines of "we trusted someone before and it left us burned." (ie Fan Chou w/ the whole Chang An incident)
>>32814623>>32814634>>32814631But we didn't ask him that question because we were suspicious of him. My understanding was that we asked because we were genuinely curious about what was happening in Xu Chang and his ability.
>>32814595>QM picks the vote with like 2 people backing itok.Why should we bother responding, again?
>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combat>>32814654>We fight for the Emprah .........we do? I mean sure I'm all for it posturing or otherwise but do we really?
>>32814654Not really, we are generally respectful of the Emperor but we are not a die-hard loyalist at the moment.1. We chose to do a respectful bow instead of being moved by genuine emotion at the Emperor's restoration.2. We didn't fight to the death to defend the Emperor.
>>32814675He probably just reads the direct linked votes and not the addendums and proxy votes./shrug
>>32814670Listen anon, it's called playing to type.That's the response that will grant us the most respect from Chen Gong. Ergo it is the correct choice. It's political thinking.
>>32814691(We'll say we're die hard loyalist Everybody loves loyalists, of course our AMBITION is bigger than being a han emperor :P)
>>32814706/tg/ can't play the social political game, it seems.>/tg/ can't military tactics/strategy out of a paper bag.We're doomed to follow the True History route with a few variations along the way if /tg/ can't get its shit together and actually fight battles smartly instead of a zerg-rushing wanna-be Lu Bu.
>>32814595We could always tell him that we would rather betray the world than have the world betray us. That should win him over
>>328146911. showing our emotions could lead to a dangerous position and it reveals our hand to our enemies, we must be weary of the shadows in the heavenly court.2. Just because Change An fell does not mean the Empreor is dead, most likely he is once more a puppet
>>32814730>implying there is any chance of an alt history. Those dreams died last thread.
>>32814743>Implying we can't replace Liu Bei
>>32814757With a 50 charisma? No. No we can't.
>>32814757>just replacing Liu Bei>Not replacing the emperor family lines with our own clanDo you even ambition?
>>32814595>ignores the highest votewow, flashbacks already
>>32814770> replacing the emperor family lines>Not turning our sister into a decorated warrior and then assigning her as the emperors bodyguard so they fall in love.
>>32814737If you read the previous thread, our characterization isn't that of a hardcore Emperor loyalist right now. We might be seen as a Han loyalist, and we might be a Han loyalist, but we do other competing priorities. Obviously the Emperor is not dead, I was just responding to the guy who said we fight for the Emprah.
>>32814792>giving our sister to anybodyYou fool don't you know with enough ambition We can have everything
Damnit, why were we not allowed the chance to do a night mission to infiltrate Chang An, open the gates, and assassinate a general?
>>32814821Ah, /d/ has arrived. About time.
>>32814833That's dumb, anon.
>>32814833Because we suck
>>32814833Because the rails are strong in this thread.
Rolled 5>>32814833Because we likely dont even stand a rats chance at opening the gates in the first placr
>>32814851>no one else agrees with your ideas of going full retard>m-muh rails!
>>32814851Are you the same guy who's been whining the whole thread about >muh rails, >history set in stone ?
>>32814814well yeah that COULD be our characterization or we could just have enough political savvy to realize that just because Dong zhuo is gone it doesn't mean the war so to speak is over.>>32814833This is so stupid it might actually work.
>>32814868>The only way to win last thread was to not go with lu bu.>ITS NOT RAILS, I SWEAR
>>32814889please refer to >>32814615
>>32814886>While the other ministers and men are truly supporters of the Han and are crying their hearts out, you aren't exactly that big of a loyalist. You have some loyalty to the Han, but you also did this for Lu Bu and to rid the land of a fool. You simply bow and give your respects. Lu Bu does the same; he is a man who did this rebellion for himself more than saving the Han.Please.
Rolled 13>>32814889No its not.Going with lu bu was the first stroke.We got reports that they couldnt find two generals, we choose to attack. Second stroke.We suffer badly, we get an internal suggestion that retreat might be s good idea. Third stroke. Since we could have run into fan chou then.We failed all three checks and even reattacked.
>>32814924Don't bother. He wants to reargue the same old argument from last thread. Everyone's sick and tired of it.
>>32814675The option I did saw the most votes from the posts I read, with the past part following. The Ambition part got the least votes, with others stating it was a bad idea because maybe spies.I don't know how you counted.>>32814543Last time I'm addressing you, since you seem so keen on bitching non-stop despite polite responses from me so far.No I don't want to see the player fail. I specifically said I posted ONE time anonymous to make players think more about marching out with Lu Bu. I also gave the last option to retreat as one last chance. I threw in hints about the enemy plan (Which I thought were fine, but will ad better hints since /tg/ has stated it was way too subtle), and stated before Fan Chou couldn't be found because he was a stratagem strike force attacking through another path far away. There were choices outlined that could have saved Chang An and they were not picked. If you think I'm bullshitting you, and am intent on this "railroad" of fucking over players, don't play. Fan Chou, was once again being watched. As in guards are posted to watch his moves and his movements are limited. You think he should have done everything in power to send a message as you would logically try if you were playing him. You weren't and art not,. The Chang An force was outnumbered 2 to 5, not 1 to 10. They didn't want to risk letting a potential enemy in and thought they could defend the city. They were wrong.If you use your form of logic in every quest you play, every DnD session and the like, games will always be halted and no progress will be made. "He should have done this instead,d, this should have gone this way by my logic. There's this one plot hole and I'm going to bitch about it."As I stated form the very start, your character might even die and perish and you'll have to roll a new one. If you can't deal with everything going your way, you are not suitable for this quest, or any quest after. Because you're a little bitch.
>>32814961please don't respond to individual anons outside of q&a/evaluation time. it just encourages additional whining and/or trolling.
>>32814833I'm in favor of attempting this
>>32814961You can't win like this Raian.Please, simply continue the quest.
>>32814961Raian, my man, relax.Just ignore and keep writing.I'd like to see this go places.
>>32814961>The option I did saw the most votes from the posts I read, with the past part following. The Ambition part got the least votes, with others stating it was a bad idea because maybe spies.>I don't know how you counted.I believe they are counting using the mystical "refresh the page" method. It's a secret and ancient art that allows you to see messages that would otherwise be hidden to your sight. In all honesty though, put a time limit on votes, post a "vote over, counting" post, and then go from there.
>>32814961Don't give that anon attention, it just invites more trolling. Just run the quest for the people who are enjoying it, which is the vast majority of the thread.
>>32814961>All this self-justificationOh man, the shitstorm that'll come when you do this again will be amazing.
>>32814961Like everyone said, don't bother with trolls who are trying to derail the quest. Write your quest for the people who are actually following it with interest.
>>32815005Then would everyone be fine with first to 5, or by 20 mins or so, most votes?>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combatSo far I have this winning by a vote. Acceptable?
>>32815048Do it.Just continue.
>>3281504820 minutes is way too long. Do 10 minutes since this is a pretty huge quest. I would suggest 5 minutes, but that doesnt give any time for thoughtful write-ins.
>>32815048This is a popular quest. 5-7 minutes should be fine.
>>32815048Think it's a bad decision but if it won, it won.
>>32814961>You think he should have done everything in power to send a message as you would logically try if you were playing him.If he really wanted to defect, then yes he would. You said yourself this isn't dynasty warriors, and outside of dynasty warriors the generals weren't stupid enough to spring surprise defections on people.>If you can't deal with everything going your way, you are not suitable for this quest, or any quest after.You're getting flustered and thus retarded. Stop it. Besides, it's not your place to decide who is suitable for the other quests and you just look stupid when you shout "YOU ARE BAD FOR EVERY QUEST EVER!"
>>3281504810 to 15 should be sufficient.Just post that you're closing voting perhaps?And state the winning option.
>>328150485 to 10 minutes. 10 if it's a big choice, 5 if it's one of small consequence such as buying equipment.
>>3281504820 minutes seems much too long for my taste. I am much more in favor of roughly around 5 minutes in most cases
>>32815048Time if that is alright. 10 - 15 I believe will be more than needed. >>32815080Or this.But other wise it's been good with me so far.
>>32815048First 5 votes is a terrible idea because it encourages people to VOTE QUICK without thinking at all. 10 minutes for decisions like write-in dialogue. Extend it to 15 if it's an important strategy decision and discussion is needed.5 minutes for everything else.
>>32814961>The Chang An force was outnumbered 2 to 5, not 1 to 10. They didn't want to risk letting a potential enemy in and thought they could defend the city.So instead of telling Fan Chou to wheel around and hit the other army besieging the city, making their job easier and checking his loyalty at the same time, they just gave him the middle finger.Makes sense.
>>32814915yeah okay fine>>32814961Raian please don't respond to his baiting & get on with the quest.
>>32815159Let me help you out there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC0cna54ey8&list=PLA57AF5CEA0F8D4E7
>>32815197>>32815159https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0loZ9P2HEYou're both wrong.
>>32815159Last Thread Musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u0jMTU8pfI
>>32815222Fight me Faggot >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv9PUcJOF3A>Implying this track didn't define DW/ROTK
>Simply state you were just curious of things that go on outside of combat The question Chen Gong asks is somewhat blunt and puts you in a slight awkward position. You are savvy enough at least not to show any surprise or concern to his question, and respond quickly with what you think is a proper appeasement.“No, I was simply interested to know of how things proceed outside of my expertise. Fighting and waring is my forte, but I am a noble and head of a clan as well. I must be knowledgeable in other affairs.” “Hah, fair enough,” Chen Gong responds stroking his beard. “It would make my job easier if I could have your input and thoughts as well. Though that would mean you would be my adversary as well,” he jokingly states. You both laugh and soon arrive by the inn Chen Gong is staying at.“If I may ask, what do you hope to gain at the end of all this,” he asks, his face turning in a more serious tone, although he keeps on a casual look. >I simply wish to follow General Lu Bu and become a renown warrior by his side>I want to know how far I can make it in this world. That is all.>I need to expand my clan and its prestige. Following this path is the best.>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace.
>>32815258>I wish to ride with Lu Bu AND take back the Han
>>32815258>>I need to expand my clan and its prestige. Following this path is the best.We're not pursuing lu bu anymore.
>>32815258>>I need to expand my clan and its prestige. Following this path is the best.>>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace.
>>32815258>I simply wish to follow General Lu Bu and become>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace.
>>32815270This.We get Lu Bu + We go with Cheng Gong's goal of unification.So we stay loyal AND we appease Gong.
>>32815258>>I want to know how far I can make it in this world. That is all.We desire something called Ambition Chen
>>32815118Fuckin' Wang Yun doubted our judgement. This is like 33% his fault.Also, I notice that Diao Chan travels with us. I thought she had been trapped in Chang An with all our friends. Good thing she's not though, Lu Bu doesn't need things like hostages held over his head.
>>32815258>>I want to know how far I can make it in this world. That is all.Honestly, we should still pursue Lu Bu.Just because of one dumb call doesn't mean we shouldn't, especially since Fanboying Lu Bu may be what saves him in the future.
>>32815258>>I want to know how far I can make it in this world. That is all.But that being said. I wish to make this work a better place. All I need is to keep going and never stop.
>>32815270Fuck the Han, it is dead.>>32815258>I need to expand my clan and its prestige. Following this path is the best.
>>32815258>I simply wish to follow General Lu Bu and become a renown warrior by his side>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace
So since it seems we're giving up on lu bu, and by extension lingqi, who should we try to waifu?
>>32815270This It's probably for the best if we play Han loyalist for now.
>>32815258Supporting >>32815270 'cause fuck the True History route.
>>32815281>>32815270WE RIDE BACK TO CHANG AN!
>>32815299We ain't giving up on Lu Bu or his daughter. We are just going to cover for his weakness so he can wreck shit without having to use his brains.
>>32815286Declaring all of them to be sentenced to death was the wrong move.A better move would have been to publically pardon them, bestow titles on them and summon them before the court for a grand conference of the generals and to renew their oaths of loyalty to the emperor.Then when they step into the palace, they are strung up and hung.
>>32815290>Fuck the Han, it is dead.BLASPHEMY
>>32815270This! We just need to make sure we steer Lu Bu toward saving the Han with us
>>32815313That's Wang Yun's misstep, not ours.
>>32815258>I simply wish to follow General Lu Bu and become a renown warrior by his side>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace.The two aren't opposed.
>>32815258>>32815270supporting but can we please link the votes back to the rain post so we can make it easier to count?
>>32815270This this this
>>32815308Are we even pursing his daughter? The only conversation we've had with her happened by accident and she hated us for it. We should probably get someone less volatile.
>>32815404We are pursuing Lingqi. That was decided in the very first thread.
>>32815415We don't seem to be very active or good at it, then.
>>32815404We are playing the long game, anon. We are on her radar and we just need to continue to prove our valor on the battlefield. We just need to start respecting her as a warrior in her own right, which we will do. Frankly, Linqi's probably not going to be won over by conversation, but by deeds. It was a good decision to not talk to her.
>>32815404I think Lu Bu is the shit, but I'm honestly not that big a fan of Lingqi.I'm open to searching for another waifu, or... you know... not having one
>>32815429Well you know, bros before hoes, especially if that bro is the ho's father.
>>32815445We need heirs and political connections, anon.
But I thought our whole reason for becoming a soldier was to make a name for ourselves?Being honest about our ambition instead of brown-nosing up to Lu Bu might lead somewhere interesting. Then again, this Chen Gong guy might consider us expendable and a glory-hound.
>>32815404>Insult someone on your first meeting>Suprised when they think you're a shitheadAnd besides that we haven't had any interaction with her. Just where are you guys coming up with these impressions of her character?
>>32815429She appreciates battle, not us climbing up to her balcony at midnight or visiting her house with a box of... steambuns I guess.
>>32815445We need a 'wife', we don't need a bloody waifu.Reminder to everyone, we make Lingqi our first wife, but we'll have others.
>>32815445>Forever alone route unlocked
>>32815466We follow Lu Bu because he will help pave a path for us in the entire process
>>32815466Also, fuck the Han.
>>32815469You can make some obvious impressions from her conversation with Lu Bu, her response to us, and her description during this chapter.
>>32815469>Insult someone>Trying reach a midpointsure anon>>32815445yeah same here but I don't mind it If gets out of hand I motion to tone it down.
>>32815444>long game>never talk to herI think there's some self-delusion going on here.We probably should've picked up Cai Wen.
>>32815519>>Trying reach a midpointMiddleground fallacy.The point between a correct decision and a stupid one is still a stupid decision.
>>32815513>You chat for a while before departing his house. It seems you made a good impression on Lu Bu. Unbeknownst to you, someone else was watching and was moderately impressed with how you did against Lu Bu.MC's first interaction with Lingqi probably >"Father, I am a grown woman and a warrior now. I will march and meet the enemy as well.">"I understand that! I am prepared to lay down my life for your cause!">Her hair is cut short and she looks back at you with fierce eyes>"I will fight whether you like it or not Father. I will not sit idly by and fiddled around for political purposes like the other women of this land.">"And I will not be condescended down by anyone. I am a warrior of my own right, and if you both cannot respect my prowess, than I shall earn more kills on the battlefield than both of you by my own right.">You can see near the front of the army Lu Lingqi who is also tired and her armor tattered with some red. By the looks of it, she is not injured and the blood is from enemy soldiers. You can tell she is tired, but she presses on without a word of complaint. That's enough to get some impressions of her personality and motivations.
>>32815557>Implying we still can't
Huh, I did not mean to post that gif>>32815465>>32815481>>32815519That is much more understandable, although I still am not particularly sold on the idea of Lingqi being that wife. To be perfectly honest, I was more in favor of Cai Yong although I wasn't completely concerned about it at the time>>32815488I'm sorry anon, but I feel that I would gain much more sexual gratification from brutally slaying countless hordes of chinese people
>>32815576We left her back in the chang an.Need to retake the city first.
>>32815591EXACTLY MY POINTFANCHOU WILL JOIN US AGAIN WHEN WE RIDE UPON THE CITY ONCE MORE
>>32815589I mean, we don't have to marry right now. Our character is 19 years old. We can afford to wait a little, win some victories, impress the lords and their daughters.
>>32815607>implying we're not going to murder the fucker brutallythat one's not negotiable, anon.
>>32815607He historically gets executed though, just saying.
>>32815569Was that Lingqi? I was under the impression that the unknown person watching us was Diaochan, or some agent of her father's
>>32815607Fan Chou will die, anon. Our new Window Boy will ensure that.
>>32815563oh and what was the correct decision then?>>32815589look honestly whatever happens happens but tying our clan to Lu Bu's is going to create a helluva Legacy, on the other hand Lu Bu is liable to get himself killed sooner or later if we don't restore ourselves as protectors of the Han emperor
>>32815637I was kind of hoping we could pull off some kind of Peach Brothers thing with Lu Bu instead of marrying his daughter.
>>32815630We can't say one way or another. It would make sense that Lingqi would be impressed since she values martial prowess. I don't think Diaochan was living with Lu Bu since that was before the schism.
>>32815625>>32815629>>32815634>all these faggots wanting vengeance>even when it was only partially his faultWe're supposed to be the good guys here. We've built up that reputation with Dong Zhuo, and can use it to our advantage later.
>>32815495So our answer really could be the first three choices?Say, I wonder whatever became of Cai Yan. Does she think we're a cowardly idiot? Probably. Or does she still respect that we saved her father? Hell, I wonder what the Cai family's standing with the occupying forces is.
>>32815665>Good guy in the three kingdoms>not caring about vengeancethat's not how it works, anon.
>>32815665Nah, just pointing out that he gets killed by the other 3 generals.We might not be able to count on his help. Thing is from MC's perspective, we might not want to either since we've shown anger at this shit.
>>32815681Don't be a Liu Bei, anon.
>>32815637My guess was that the optimal + Lingqi decision was letting her fight with no strings attached. That would of course piss off Lu Bu. I honestly think anons are blowing our choice out of proportion. Lingqi is clearly headstrong and didn't appreciate the thoughts that she needed protection. But it wasn't a route lock, particularly as we still supported allowing her to fight. Whether Lingqi is a good fit for the MC is another question entirely. Honestly, she presents a lot of complications.
>>32815671Probably think we're idiots
>>32815671Serving the emperor loyally i suppose. He'll protect the Emperor which means he might get a stay from execution.Now we called for forces, could we count on Liu Bei's help to save the emperor?
>>32815649>>32815693Like they say like father like daughter
>>32815665Oh don't get me wrong, I might supporting letting him live if it gives us a strategic advance when we go retake Changan. >>32815671Cai Yan isn't a military advisor, she doesn't know the details of what happened. All she knows is that we went out to fight and were ultimately defeated. That wouldn't sour her opinion of us since we saved her father and fought bravely for the Emperor.
>>32815649Uh. If we become Lu Bu's brother, we can't marry his daughter/our niece.>>32815693Lingqi confirmed as Tsundere.>>32815710Liu Bei at this point is still a schmuck mucking about in some no-name village as magistrate with only a few hundred soldiers under his command. He can't do shit.
>>32815687I would still like to try and get him on our side, though.
>>32815721We know in character that Guan Yu is a fucking beast. Especially since we tried to duel him Having warriors of his caliber would be helpful no matter how many soldiers he leads.
>>32815710we can rely on Cao Cao for aid IF he can get weaved into the Narrative as the main hero, we can possibly rely on Liu bei and I honestly can't say I know much about Sun Jian.
>>32815721Hes one of the few who would join in without strings attached.
>I simply wish to follow General Lu Bu and become a renown warrior by his side>I am hoping to save the Han and restore peace."General Lu Bu is the mightiest warrior in this land. I respect him and wish to follow him wherever that may be. I am looking to hone myself as a warrior, and see if I can match his prowess. Other than that... The state is in trouble and the Emperor has lost much power. I wish to see the Han restored, and see peace returned back to this land."Chen Gong nods in a distant fashion, and clasps his hands behind him."Then I will be there to offer whatever advice I may give, in order to support you both. Supports of the Han are dying, and it will be difficult to restore it back to the glory days. I too wish to see the Han restored if possible... But remember Sir Zhu, it may be too late for that, and we must see the bigger picture in securing a better place than hanging on to a dying state."He lets out a slight sigh at the complicated nature of things."In any case, thank you for talking with me. I understand if you may not entirely trust me yet, but believe me when I say I will do my best to meet your trust."You both bow to each other, and Chen Gong returns to his room. You feel that you both have gained a better understanding of each other, but are not true friends yet.
So Raian, where the heck is Zhang Liao in all of this? I want to form the alMIGHTy trinity already!
>>32815769Time passes by more, and by a few months, your force has been replenished and has grown in size. With volunteers and the help of Chen Gong, your force has grown to 7000 in numbers. You take care to remember that a lot of them are green, and not the veteran forces you fought with back when you served Dong Zhuo. They need to see some blood and you need to be careful with how you lead them.Doughty warriors who stand out also join. Wei Xu, Song Xian, and Hou Cheng are good warriors that joined as lieutenants and can outmatch the average man. Chen Gong however warns that they should not be fully trusted and must be treated well to keep their loyalty. Another large man, Gao Shun has joined. He is skillful in not only warfare but leading horsemen as well. Finally, there is a man Zhang Liao who has actually been following Lu Bu for a while but had been serving as a common soldier. He has apparently killed many of the enemy soldiers while he was following your troops, and you even suspect that he can match your prowess.The time finally comes to discuss your plans. Chen Gong gathers you and Lu Bu together for a council meeting.“Greetings, Generals. Now is the time we can finally move and make plans. I offer you three options...”
>>32815743I find our character progression on duels somewhat hilarious.>Try to challenge Guan Yu to a battle, get told by fucking Lu Bu that we are being reckless >Duel one of Sun Jian's officer, wounding him and getting wounded in return.>Say fuck that to dueling Cheng Pu and do the smart thing instead. Obviously we are going to duel officers in the future but that's our history so far. > I don't know much about Sun Jian.He's dead, Jim
>>32815769I think the way we were aiming for was more "I want to become an esteemed warrior with Lu Bu at our side by saving the Han" but whatever.
>>32815786“One, we may set up base here in Xu Chang and overthrow the magistrate. I warn that while this is easy enough, the road ahead after will be difficult. Cao Cao will be bordering us to the east, Yuan Shu a bit further south, and there are of course the scoundrels Guo Si and Li Jue who have taken charge. Cao Cao is careful and we may keep him out of doorsteps, and Yuan Shu is a fool who we can easily appease, but Guo Si and Li Jue no doubt will plan to attack us as soon as possible when they hear we take over Chang An. We will need to hire more troops and keep a strong guard. Our popularity here will also be low given that we will be taking over the city.”“The second option is to head south, past the Chang Jian river. There we may claim small towns and territory before we defeat the local magistrates there. We will need to subjugate the Shanyue tribes there, and it will take a few years to truly control the area. We may then be facing off against Yuan Shu who will no doubt grow jealous of our new powers. Liu Biao of Jing may not take us kindly as well. However, we will have a strong of power and will be able to contend with the other lords.”“The last option is to go and serve a lord as an ad hoc force. We will take supplies and gold in return for our services... And when the time comes, we may take their territory from underneath them. Or we may ask the lord we serve to give us land that as reward when we defeat their enmies. I will outline the lords we can serve should you choose this option.”Lu Bu grows silent. There is much to think about and he cannot choose without some thinking... What do you choose?>Option 1: Take Xu Chang>Option 2: Head to the Southlands>Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territory
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the Southlands
>>32815806>Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territory"Oh hello Yuan Shao." This will be almost too easy.
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsHaving skillful barbarians will suplement our forces greatly
>>32815806I hate option 3, but I'm torn between Options 1 and 2. Option 1 seems to be Hard Mode, but may get us results quickly.Option 2 seems to be much safer but it will take some time.
Let's see if we can mold Zhu Yue a bit, like, Yang is already a good statesman and marriagable, but the only thing Yue has going for her is that she's marriagable.She's a blank slate, yet there might be potential for greatness, whether it be in diplomacy, assassination, warfare maybe (I don't like her stealing our schtick), or strategy?I'm in favor of asking her of her own ambitions. my ideal route for her would be to travel the land while learning a skill, but it's her choice in the end.
>>32815806>Option 2We may meet Liu Bei there.
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsXu Chang is a death trap and I'd rather not become an actual traitor.
>>32815806>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsWe need Veterans before we can take back Xu chang
>>32815835Uh... that'll pit us against Gong Sun Zan's White Rider regiments. One crushing charge will wipe out half of our units.
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsOption 1 is just too risky
>>32815806>>Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territoryI'm think Option 3, Mainly to gain info and free training.But I can see us doing Option 2.
>>32815806>>Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territoryGo join under Yuan Shao and take his lands.The south is the holdings of the Sun family, where they will rise.By being near chang an, we will be in a position to welcome the emperor or take chang an when we kill yuan shao.
>>32815849There's already a few players who want to train her as a warrior in case we die and need a new PC.
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsI'd rather we do our own thing.
>>32815806>Option 2: Head to the Southlands
>>32815806At this point, Liu Bei's probably riding to Yuzhou to help out that old geezer Tao Yuan or whatever his name was-- 'cause Cao Cao's daddy got murdered on Yuzhou land.I vote >Option 1: Take Xu Chang, but we do it diplomatically.We have Fame, we're from Xu Chang, and we can easily diplo-annex the place.
FYI for all anons.Heading to the south puts us on a collision course with the Wu and the Sun family.
>>32815844Do you people honestly think we can get the Shanyue on board with us? Honest question.
>>32815806>>Option 2: Head to the Southlands>>32815786>Finally, there is a man Zhang LiaoItshappening
>>32815844You mean the Nanman? Man that'd be sweet
>>32815899>we get to kill quanAll aboard the option 2 train
>>32815885We should have the brother stay with Cheng Gong and learn under him, while having the sister take care of Lu Bu and his daughter, learning stuff along the way.
>>32815899Wu's not a thing yet, anon. Sun Jian just died and Sun Ce's starting his service under Yuan Shu. Also we want a rematch with Cheng Pu if it comes down to it.
>>32815894... True, But can we hold out if we are attacked. We may need to get a alliance with someone.
>>32815902Doesn't hurt to try and recruit them
Question what exactly do tribes mean in three kingdoms? I'm picturing wandering nomad type but that's just a guess?
>>32815926Not yet of course but they rise in the south. Thats their traditional holdings so its only a matter of time.
>>32815899and staying up north will put us on a collision course with Cao Cao and a bunch of other families. We're going to end up stepping on someone's toes
>>32815894Still too early, anon. And we don't know if that'll happen in this timeline.
>>32815902Would be cool to tryImagine Shanyue and Lu Bu going at it
>>32815941I know. I just wanted to lay out our options since the south will not all be smooth sailing. Shit will hit the fan sooner or later.
>>32815935Wandering horse nomads are in the north. The "barbarian" tribes of the south are actually more like sedentary, non-horse-riding Native American nations.
>>32815940I still think it's the easiest option, we can team up with Liu Biao and even Yuan Shu against Sun Ce if necessary.
>>32815806>Option 2: Head to the SouthlandsOption 1 is tempting but we'd be in a very difficult spot. I'd rather conquer the south first so we could have a base to start with that's easier to defend from
Why the fuck does nobody want to pull the rug out from under that dumbass Yuan Shao? It will be almost hilariously easy, not to mention he has a great horde of decently-experienced troops.
>>32816004I voted for it.
>>32816004Because he'll turn that hoard on us.
>>32816004Yuan Shao's not as stupid as Yuan Shu. He's also one of the strongest warlords right now and the Yuan Clan isn't going to throw one of their own under the bus for Lu Bu. It's certainly not going to be hilariously easy.
>>32815806>Option 3 (Gong Sun Zan)Now hear me out: 1) White Calvary regiment will help us decimate Yuan Shao's force.2) Once we beat Yuan Shao's forces, we can ask Gong Sun Zan for those lands.Then we can work our way back to Luo Yang, Xu Chang and eventually Chang An.
>>32815980I'd rather team up with Sun Ce.
>>32816043And then you'll regret it when he starts hallucinating about some crazy old geezer haunting his dreams 'til he croaks and then Sun Quan becomes leader of proto-Wu.
>>32816035Bit too late.
>>32815806 >Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territoryNot only should we take Yuan Shao's land, we should take his cool armor as well.
>>32816035It's an interesting idea, and we'd have a chance at recruiting Zhao Yun. But ultimately, I think independence in the south is the safest route.If we wanted to do the dick route, we'd join up with Tao Qian and basically take Liu Bei's place in history.
>>32816043I think Sun Ce's territorial ambitions might conflict with ours. If that's the case, then hostilities may be inevitable. Better to remove him while he's still on the weak side.
I wonder if we can head to the west.Take over what would be liu bei's holdings.
>>32816090Plus we get to kill his shitheel brother.
>>32815806>Option 3: Go serve another lord and eventually try to get territory
>>32816096He's like 10 years old right now though.Although I won't argue about him being a shitheel.
We should try and meet Zhuge Liang.
>>32816119No time. Wooing Bu and Lingqi. Molding Zhang Liao.
>>32816119And then burn his house down for being a total dick.
>>32816119He wont give us the time of the day.Sending lu bu would be fun.He might 'accidentally' kill him.
>>32816119We're not honorable enough to meet those conditions. We'd have to meet Kong Ming's mentor first and pass the reputation check and then 4 of Kong Ming's scholar buddies rep checks before we can start the Three Visits.It took Liu Bei 1 year and 3 months to convince Zhuge Liang to join him. I doubt we have the patience to spend the same action on Zhuge Liang.
>>32816145I mean when we do have time.He's almost like a second Sima Yi, without the dickass backstabbing!
>Option 2: Head to the Southlands You think hard and ponder on what you know."As far as I understand... The Southlands are rich, and the river Chang Jian can serve as defense should we be attacked. The magistrates are of no name and they are not used to war. Surely we would be able to beat them."Lu Bu slightly grunts."I wish for some challenge and good fights. Remember that we are warriors, Zhu Xing.""Worry not," Chen Gong says to intervene. "While our force will be superior as warriors, remember that our force is still only small in comparison with the other lords. The magistrates I can assure you will be beaten, but they will by no means be easy targets."Lu Bu finds this appeasing, and he agrees. And thus, your force's goal is set in motion and you head southward. For a few weeks your men pass towns and villages and traverse through some rivers. You and your men begin to notice the climate change... It is much hotter and uncomfortable in the south. Chen Gong warns the men need to be kept strong and well-fed least they succumb to the weather and disease. Lu Bu at times pillages small villages around the road you travel to feed the army as there is not much choice. Chen Gong makes sure Lu Bu is kept in check and only takes supplies from remote villages.Soon you finish crossing the Chang Jian and are at the South. Chen Gong advises that you all rest for a few days to recover from the long journey, and you all do so. There are some options available to you now...>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.>Take the time to order warships built. Chen Gong states they will not be needed to fight the magistrates, but may be needed once the South is conquered and future invasion plans are made>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the future
>>32816153I didn't mean right away, but it seems silly to settle for just Cheng Gong at the moment.And why not go WITH Lu Bu?
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.Lets get ourselves a pirate general
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.Gan Ning? Oh god, are we about to get massacred?
>>32816181>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the futureYou know that guerilla campaign we will inevitably be fighting? Yeah, would really suck to be denied food and starved during that.
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.We haven't killed anything in too long.
>>32816181>>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the futureFor once let's think with our heads.
>>32816181>>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the futureSmart man we are
>>32816181>>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the future
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.HAHA TIME FOR GANG NING looks like we're heading for an Honourable dirty dozen.
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.
>>32816181>>Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the futureDo we still have that minor stab wound?We can send Lu Bu with a small force and Zhang Liao to go and help villages fend off pirate attacks to keep him busy and appeased.
>>32816181>>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.Ships are too long term and Cheng Gong will keep track of our supplies.We are a Warrior, we must fight
>>32816247actually on second thoughts >Take the time to forage for supplies and fish. Your supplies are not low, but gathering a surplus will help in the future
>>32816256This is a great idea.
>>32816266men can't fight on a empty stomach no matter how strong they are.
>>32816256No, profile updated. Also, your family is coming along with you and have left Xu Chang.
>>32816181>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.
>>32816181>>32816256Yeah, let's go with this. Also, I think our minor stab wound should have healed considering it's been 6 months.
>>32816294>your family is coming alongNice, thanks.
>>32816181>Take the time to forage.>Write In: Search and hire a local herbalist to head off any local diseases.We don't want to end up like Cao Cao at Red Cliffs. Half of the Northern Wei army succumbed to disease because they weren't used to the sub-tropical climate in the southern half of China.
>>32816256This.>>32816294Can we assign our Brother to work and learn under Cheng Gong and our sister to aid Lu Bu and his daughter?
>>32816256Oh hell yes this is an excellent move & it will build some PR for Lu Bu
Options are pretty split pretty well. One person roll vote for one option, and another person roll vote for the other.
>We've turned from a follower of Lu Bu to his babysitter
>>32816340Sure. Generally though, both your brother and sister are blank slates that you can later play and choose their stats should Zhu Xing die.
Rolled 62>>32816345>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.
Rolled 23>>32816345Rolling for foraging and babysitting Lu Bu
>>32816181>There are local pirates in the area with a prominent warrior. Attack them and destroy them.Gain some rep with the people, and maybe gain ourselves a new ally if we're lucky
Rolled 98>>32816345I vote for us to forage, but Lu Bu and Zhang Liao to fight the pirates and capture Gan Ning.
>>32816345Lets just go for letting Lu Bu attack while we forage.
>>32816363While it may not be the smartest option, I'm not going to be too mad about the chance to see Gan Ning.
>>32816354He's proven he's retarded, so what can you do?
>>32816369well that settles that
Rolled 82>>32816345Forage pls
>>32816181">Take the time to forage for supplies and fish"Good if we take our time and get some supplies. Better we stock up now while we're not fighting.
>>32816369AND WE HAVE A WINNER
>>32816379Nope, that'd be the second roll.
>>32816362If we take over our brother, we would have better relationships with Chen Gong due to working with him right?
>>32816345>>32816363>>32816366>>32816369So forging and letting Bu watch his own ass won? Alright.
Rolled 59>>32816375We can't.Letting Lu Bu go off on his own is asking for him to deplete our troops.
>>32816391Nope actually there is a minor difference in the option those rolls supported.
>>32816369Nice roll, but it probably doesn't count.
>>32816391Nope, that's a third option.
Rolled 4>>32816345>piratessince it seems we can just keep rolling till we win
Rolled 42>>32816369I hope this 3rd option won.
>>32816369This is actually really smart. We get to forage for food and Lu Bu stays happy.
>>32816405>One person roll vote for one option, and another person roll vote for the other.That implies two rolls for two options, otherwise you'd have two rolls for foraging, which is rather unfair. I have no horse in the game though, so let's see what Raian chooses.
>>32816400And forcing Lu Bu to go too long without fighting, especially in a stuffy and frustrating climate like this, is asking for him to overrule us and do something stupid.
Rolled 25>>32816345>pirates again
Rolled 13>>32816421I know.Thats why I suggested giving him Zhang Liao as a babysitter.
>>32816419what how the hell is it unfair? one choice was Foraging while babysitting Lu Bu, the other is Foraging while letting Lu Bu loose on pirate scum.
Rolled 66>>32816345>more pirates
>>32816436>>32816426>>32816412>>32816363The dice gods aren't letting you win this one.
Rolled 23>>32816449Its ok, I can keep trying apparently
>>32816435Read my post again. You could argue that foraging has 66% chance of winning versus 33% for pirates if foraging gets to roll twice. The minor difference in implementation probably doesn't just an entire roll since it fucks up the probability. Of course, the foraging supporters will say that they are entirely separate options and that each option has 33% shot of winning. I think that's being dishonest since the two options are fundamentally similar.
>>32816181Attack the pirates.
Forage for supplies
>>32816475>>32816436> two options are fundamentally similar.Option 1: Us and Bu fight piratesOption 2: Us and Bu forage for foodOption 3: We forage and Bu fights piratesI understand your argument but I can't agree with that logic.
>>32816475Good luck trying to convince them. They're giddy with that 98
>>32816501That's fine, I guess we disagree here. Either way, I think Raian has enough justification for taking either fighting pirates or Lu Bu fighting pirates.
>>32816475maybe I didn't make myself clear see >>32816501for a better Explanation of what I meantBut whatever ultimatly it's in Raian hands
Rolled 16>>32816501>Bu >Come here Buuu~
>>32816501Option 4We fight pirates and Lu Bu forages
As a note, I only count the first roll for an option when using rolls to determine which route we go. That way there is no constant rolling for high rolls.>forage, let Lu Bu and Zhang Liao kill piratesYou tell Lu Bu that you want to gather the supplies for the army, and that he should go destroy the pirates. He has no objections.You spend time gathering various supplies and making a surplus of your foodstores. Grain, shoots, animal, edible plants are gathered. The soldiers also fish with nets in the area and gather numerous schools of them. The fish are dried and stored well as not to rot.Lu Bu and Zhang Liao return later. They utterly crushed the pirates. Unfortunately, Lu Bu killed the pirate leader, Jiang Qin, in a duel, and Chen Gong laments slightly that your force could have turned him over to your side along with some of the pirates. Well, not really a big loss...Your force finally moves out in full force. You head towards the city of Jian Ye, ruled over by a man named Liu Yao. Liu Yao marches out to meet your forces on the plains. His men are 10,000 strong.Chen Gong advises that a simple straight up fight is best here. The enemy is not that strong, and beating Liu Yao in a straight battle will gain the admiration of the Southern people.The lines are drawn. From the enemy lines, a warrior rides forward."I am Ze Rong! You treacherous invaders, fight me in single combat!" Lu Bu gets his halberd ready, but Chen Gong stops him from going. "You have earned more than enough glory, General. You must learn to give deeds and rank to your own men so they should feel satisfied. You and Sir Zhang Liao have already beaten the pirates. I advice you to allow one of our new ranked warriors to fight."He frowns, but heeds Chen Gong's advice. You remember Chen Gong advising you that some of the new recruits needed to be appeased to keep their loyalty... But still, you want to fight as well.>Go out and fight>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fight
>>32816551I suggest we do not do that, if only to avoid a horrible face-to-halberd collision.
>>32816567>>Go out and fightLooks like we'll finally be able to use our new toys.
>>32816567LU BU's DAUGHTER
>>32816567>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightHou Cheng
>>32816567Let Lingqi do it. Will gain us cred with her, at least.
>>32816567What were the names of our new officers again?
>>32816567>>>Go out and fight
>>32816567>>Declare Lu Lingqi to go out and fight
Rolled 16>>32816597This.We're gonna need a pastebin on our faction soonish.
>>32816567>>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightThose who wish to fight some and lets see who is ready.
>>32816601>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightGAO SHUN
>>32816567>Wei Xu, Song Xian, or Hou ChengEither these 3 will fightI choose Hou Cheng
>>32816567>Unfortunately, Lu Bu killed the pirate leader, Jiang Qin, in a duelThis is why we shouldn't let Lu Bu go anywhere by himself. Because Raian will keep fucking us over by having him kill decent generals.
>>32816567>>Go out and fight
>>32816601Wei Xu, Song Xian, Hou Cheng, Gao Shun.
>>32816567Declare the best warrior out of the ones that need appeasement
>>32816619>>32816567Fuck, meant to link it to this vote, I was voting Gao Shun
>>32816567>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightEither of the three is good with me. Preferably whichever one steps up
>>32816567>Go out and fightWhy are we even playing a warrior anymore? Most people seem to want to be a strategist.
>>32816629Raian, the >Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fight should be one vote and then CHOOSE should be a Secondary vote.It's really difficult for the Declare Warrior option to win when they are splintering themselves into 3 separate camps.
Rolled 4>>32816626We also deprived Wu of one of their better generals.We can find Gan Ning later.I was honestly hoping Zhang Liao would restrain Lu Bu too but it looks like hes riding the Lu Bu train like we first did.
>>32816639>>32816610>>32816600>>32816588Lets OFFER it to her at least, don't force it.
>>32816629Thank youI am>>32816650for reference
>>32816626>wanting Jiang QinWe got to keep at least some sort of standard.
>>32816657At least we trained up the recruits.
>>32816659Seconded, though I suspect she'll squeal with glee at a chance to prove herself while the enemy will just go lolwut.
>>32816567>>Go out and fightTrying to fight the tide of cowardice.
>>32816567>>Declare [ Hou Cheng] to go out and fightGuys, I know it sounds great but don't you think sending a woman (Even if it's Lu Lingqi) to a duel instead of one of our captains will piss them off.
>>32816670>Ze Rong is killed by a woman>still not as shameful as his real life
>>32816626Hey at least he won. Now we've got some more credibility and our troops aren't so green. Could have been worse
>>32816659We gottta do this. First she wins the duel, then we give her the kettle
>>32816567>>Declare [Lu Lingqi] to go out and fight
>>32816567>>32816640Switching from Gao Shun to Hou Cheng since why the fuck are we embarrassing our new generals by offering the honor to a fucking woman?
>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightPretty much wins here. Choose someone to go out and fight.>Hou Cheng>Gao Shun>LingqiTake note that Chen Gong is probably not referring to Lingqi when he says new recruits. Up to you guys though. Vote on one of these three.
Rolled 16>>32816706I dont know.That is a perfect way to piss off ALL the generals, Lu Bu and Chen Gong.>>32816710>Hou Cheng
>>32816567>>Declare [choose warrior] to go out and fightLingqiFor someone we're supposed to be chasing, we've been ignoring her a whole lot.
>>32816710>>Hou ChengPlease don't piss off Cheng Gong, Lu Bu, and all 3 of our new fucking generals for a waifu.
>>32816689As much as I want Lingqi to like us, I say this guy is right. We need loyal underlings.
>>32816710>>LingqiWouldn't be /tg/ if we didn't at least try to screw ourselves over for a waifu, nay THE WAIFU!
>>32816710>>Hou ChengWe'll give Lingqi her chance to shine. We just have to make sure there's not a mutiny first.
>all these idiots forgetting that Hou betrayed Lu BuAlso, have fun losing one of our only chances at Lingqi.
>>32816710Gao ShunRaian, we're gonna need a data sheet on the generals and their preferred style of warfare. There's no sense in deploying a cavalry general to handle an shipmaster's job.
>>32816710>>Hou ChengThis vote is making me wish that we had picked Cai Yong instead and I say this as Lingqi fag
>>32816710>>Lingqi>>32816754>We'll give Lingqi her chance to shine. No we won't. First we're being a coward and not fighting this duel, now we're ignoring the waifu for some random dudes.
>>32816758That'll be made later in time.
>>32816710>Hou ChengLingqi will have her time to shine, but IF WE PICK A WOMAN OVER OUR COMMANDERS IN THIS SITUATION THEY WON'T BE HAPPY
>>32816756>Wei Xu, Song Xian, and Hou Cheng are good warriors that joined as lieutenants and can outmatch the average man. Chen Gong however warns that they should not be fully trusted and must be treated well to keep their loyalty>You remember Chen Gong advising you that some of the new recruits needed to be appeased to keep their loyalty.>"You have earned more than enough glory, General. You must learn to give deeds and rank to your own men so they should feel satisfied. You and Sir Zhang Liao have already beaten the pirates. I advice you to allow one of our new ranked warriors to fight."
>>32816710>>Lingqi.If your generals can't lose out on a duel without trying to murder you the those fuckers need to be kicked out anyway.
>>32816710>>Hou ChengYour up.
Rolled 14>>32816756He did, after he was mistreated.We'll need to intervene and make sure everything goes well.
>>32816765I dunno, I think giving her preferential isn't the way to go.
>>32816710>>LingqiTired of these people and their attempts to make sure we never interact with her.
I think this argument shines a light on a bigger problem we will eventually have to tackle:How the fuck are we going to battle-woo Lingqi if her father is so protective and the lesser officers are so jealous? It seems like we're being pulled in two separate directions here.
>>32816826There's a battle with 10,000 enemies coming up. Perhaps that would be a good time to impress her, not humiliating all our commanders.
Rolled 10>>32816826We duel with her. Help her train a unit of handmaidens.And then we let her fight on the field.
>>32816826We can be patient and wait for a better opportunity to ariseThis>>32816836Also seems pretty reasonable
>>32816826There is no problem, anon. We're not interested in lingqi and we see lu bu as a retard to be babysat.
>>32816668He didn't do too bad in RotTK.
Rolled 16>>32816826She comes pirate hunting with us next time.
>>32816836Anon, we don't give permission for her to fight on the battlefield.She already proved herself to be a capable warrior, she can do what she wants.
>>32816861>implying we're not going to be training our int with our real waifu, chen gong
Rolled 6>>32816865Shes a capable warrior but is she a leader?Thats what we need to give permission on. Permission to lead her own unit.
>Hou ChengYou speak up with a smile."This brazen fool should be easily enough to kill. Lieutenant Hou Cheng, do you think you can kill this man?""Of course!" Hou Cheng says riding up. "I will bring his head back to General Lu Bu, or may a thousand plagues set on my family."Lu Bu nods and allows Hou Cheng to go. You can see he is quite pleased and will thank you for it later. The other lieutenants do not take offense, but see's this army as a chance to make glory for themselves. Your choice in following Chen Gong is a wise one.Hou Cheng rides out with his spear. Ze Rong charges to meet him. They fight 20 bouts to no avail. But in the last bout charge, Hou Cheng pierces Ze Rong through the throat with his spear. the soldiers on your side cheer, while the enemy look worried.Hou Cheng returns and your men prepare for battle. Chen Gong gives the formation of your army, and you are free to choose someone to fight together with.>Go with Lu Bu>Go with Zhang Liao>Go with LingqiRoll 1d100. Avg of 3 first.
Rolled 6>>32816710>>Hou Cheng
>>32816875If that's the case, then I'd rather we let her lead a normal unit.Giving her a unit of battlemaidens seems like we are treating her differently from other warriors, which is precisely what she hates.She wants to be treated like any other warrior from what I've read of her.
Rolled 9>>32816894>>Go with Lingqi
Rolled 68>>32816894>>Go with Lingqi
>>32816894LinqiLet's hope we don't find our noodles spilling out of our armor now!
Rolled 37>>32816894>>Go with Lingqi
Rolled 53>>32816894>>Go with Lingqi
Rolled 91>>32816894>Go with LingqiNo doubt Lu Bu wants us guarding her
Rolled 68>>32816894>>Go with LingqiThanks for throwing us a bone>>32816911And thanks for fucking it up
Rolled 79>>32816911>>32816913>>32816919AVG: 38THE WAIFU WILL BE THE DOOM OF US>she opsentypYes captcha
>>32816911>>32816913>>32816919Welp She's dead
Rolled 95>>32816894>Zhang LiaoWe need to fight smart. Who better than Zhang Liao?
avg 38yup, we're totally going to woo her.When are we finally giving up on this pipe dream and going after someone worthwhile?
>>32816894>You can see he is quite pleased and will thank you for it later. The other lieutenants do not take offense, but see's this army as a chance to make glory for themselves. Your choice in following Chen Gong is a wise one.I beg of you Linqifags, please woo her when it's appropriate. Now would be a perfect time to bro it up with her for example.>>32816899Raian, that's a 1d20 by the way
Rolled 40>>32816894>>Go with Zhang LiaoLet learn more about him.
Rolled 76>>32816894>>Go with Zhang Liao
Rolled 11>>32816894>Go with LinqiSweet, everybody get's what they want!As long as the Dice Gods are on our side...
>>32816951It won't work, anon, he picks the first 3 rolls regardless of choice
>>32816937>>32816951>>32816953We should waifu Zhang Liao instead
Rolled 72>>32816954Oh my
>>32816964>not going after chen gongWhat are you, an idiot?
>>32816957Yeah ... I know ... But I can dream.
>>32816970Cheng Gong sempai is too far above us
>Go with Lingqi>avg of 32 rollYou take the left flank of the force, where along it Lingqi is taking the helm. Your men prepare for battle, but before you head in, maybe you should say something to her.>Apologize for your first meeting when she took offense>Ask if she's okay so far and having come all the way to Southlands>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most heads
>>32816964I think we're going with Zhang Liao, he got higher rolls.Anyways, I think Lingqi would probably be happier if she went alone. Plus she gets to show off that she can kick ass without anyone's help and we can help sell that.
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsThis is what she wants
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsWe'll fucking crush her
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsMake her feel good about herself when we fail!!!!
Rolled 16>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsLet the woman win
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsThis is going to fail but at least we're doing it right.
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsAlso, how do you get avg of 329+68+37 = 114/3 = 38
>>32816987>Show me your worth then Lingqu!
>>32817002>Letting her winI don't think you get her character, anon. She wants to prove herself fair and square. If she loses a fair match, she'll still be content.
Rolled 85>>32816987>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsThe only favorable response
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most heads.We should do this but we better not let her win.
Rolled 77>>32817018We're going to lose anyway, this IS letting her win.
>>32816987>>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most heads
>>32817030Yes, but I don't want us to intentionally throw the match. That's both dangerous and incredibly insulting and counter-productive.
Rolled 10>>32817021Shit.I also did not mean to post that either.
>>32817045Your attempts at sabotage are now known, spy.
>>32817045"Xing! Who the fuck is this woman, and why do you have her picture lying around?"
Rolled 34>>32817021>>32817045I dunno man, Cai Yan is a great waifu.
>>32817061Was, anon. Was.
>>32817061If we haven't waifued Lingqi by the time we get to Chang'an, we can waifu her instead.
Rolled 66>>32817070Tall order. We're really far from Chang An.Unless he survived... and follows the emperor into exile.
>>32817084And remains unattached for the next 20 years till we painfully make our way back
>>32817099She'd be 34 by then, a delicious Christmas Cake
>>32817061... fuuuuuuck, I forgot that we could've made Cai Yan a concubine/consort instead of 1st wife (though that'd be slightly against tradition since the first woman a man took was technically for all intents and purposes the 1st Wife).
Rolled 50>>32817099The Emperor flees Chang an five years after the rebellion.It might be possible.
>>32817112>implying we still can't
>>32817156We're at least 500 li from Chang An by now and knowing Raian, he's probably going with what happens in True History route and the Emprah's stuck in the middle of the 4 generals squabbling for control of the Imperial Court.Wang Yun's probably dead unless he proved that he can't be replaced because he's that damn good at his job as Minister of the Masses.Cai Yan's daddy is more than likely alive, though also probably imprisoned-- but then again, he's supposed to be dead in True History because of the whole crying for Dong Zhuo's death thing-- What's that copper smell?
>>32817197Cai Yan might be saved because he cried for Dong Zhuo. I actually really like the Southlands approach. It's been pretty interesting and not too stressful so far
>>32817221Yeah and we haven't fucked shit up yet
>Declare a bet with her on who will take the most headsYou move your horse next to her own, and with confident, ready your spear. You glance at her with a grin."I will be obtaining glory here. I hope that you can follow my lead."Lingqi looks back at you, and scoffs."You think you can match me and my prowess? Why don't you heard at the back of lines and watch the battle as a general should do.""Then what about a bet? I am willing to stake my fortunes that I will take more heads than you."You're on, little man," she responds as the battle horns and drums are rolled.Lingqi charges quickly in with the other soldiers. You follow suit, and together your forces smash through the enemy flank. The enemy soldiers scatter in the face of your might. With your Whispering Blade on one hand and spear in another, you cut down numerous enemy soldiers. You and an elite group of cavalry charge through and break enemy formation. An arrow whistles past however and hits you on the chest. You grunt and your momentum is stopped. Thankfully your armor has stopped you from death, but you bleed slightly. (Minor Wound)The rest of the battle is easily won. The central flank and the right flank led by Lu Bu and Zhang Liao also easily crushed the enemy force. Liu Yao retreats with the remannts of his army, his numbers dwindled to half. Lu Bu's casualties are but a few hundred. You sit down to treat your wound. Lingqi comes over to point and laugh at you."Looks like I win this round, Zhu Xing. I lost counts on how many I killed, but at least I remain unscathed! Perhaps you should stay back as I suggested!"Well... You lost the bet, and Lingqi is making fun of you, but it's a lighthearted taunt. It seems your relationship with Lingqi has improved somewhat.
Rolled 89>>32817221I hope he survives and I hope Raian answers the question later.
>>32817197With any luck, Cai Yan and her daddy will still be alive and might help us out some day
>>32817237After a few hours of rest and the wounded treated, Lu Bu gathers the men and marches once again. Liu Yao has also reformed his ranks, though it seems their morale has grown deplorable. As your armies line for battle, another warrior comes forth. He is dressed in red ornate armor, big, and fierce looking.“I am Taishi Ci! I seek a worthy challenge, who shall come forward!?”You think maybe it's time another lieutenant gets his share of glory and is about to offer a suggestion, but Chen Gong places a hand on your shoulder. When you look at him, he shakes his head. “Wait. That man is Taishi Ci. I remember that he did incredibly well in the Turban Rebellion, and he managed to save Kong Rong with a few hundred troops against a couple thousand. I fear the other warriors will be no match for him.”“But they want glory,” you reply back. “It was your suggestion as well you give them chances.”“That was then. We have just earned a crushing victory and the others have taken heads. They are appeased and we do not need to offer them another duel. I believe General Lu Bu must go out and fight this man.”You remember you are injured. And it seems Taishi Ci is a powerful man... What should you do?>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight him>Declare that you will fight him
>>32817246>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himWe are wounded, unfortunately, and Taishi Ci seems to be a mighty warrior.Fucking 32.
>>32817246>taishi ciLet's let Do Not Pursue take this one, yeah? We are wounded, after all.
>>32817246>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himWe are smart people!
>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himTake Lu Bu aside and tell him not to kill this warrior. Double Stress that Lu Bu isn't to kill/permanently maim/ this man. If he is truely this powerful, we can use him.
>>32817246Let Lu Bu take the fight.
>>32817246>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight him We almost died.
Rolled 18>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himAsk Lu Bu to see if he will be willing to defect after defeating him.He is a strong warrior and his joining our faction will be a great boon.
>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himAlways bet on the advisor
>>32817246>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight him"Oh God. Not Taishi Ci, who can stand up against him?..."
>>32817246>>Declare that you will fight himTis but a flesh wound. But seriously, we should be fighting this one.
>>32817246>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himIt's been a good day. We kept our troops happy and we got approval points from Lingqi. No need to ruin it with our death.
>>32817269Very much this.
Rolled 71>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight him"lord Lu Bu is a great warrior. Surely he can subdue this doughy warrior by only disarming him. He is not at your level, my lord. He needs a handicap."
>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himLiking the info we been getting. We will need to up our int later or leadership.
I wonder if Cai Yan is in a position that she needs rescuing from? Maybe it spread that Cai Yong wept when Dong Zhuo was killed, so her family might be in a cushy position.
>>32817294Chen Gong's been a fucking godsend. We would have done some very stupid things today without his advice.
>>32817246>>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himWait why don't we want Taishi chi?
Rolled 37>>32817302Chen Gong has great advice.Until Cao Cao comes into the picture.Then his bias will come out in full force.
>>32817289Taishi Ci could arguably take out Zhang Fei. I know Lu Bu can take him, but maybe a handycap is not the best idea.
>>32817237>"Then what about a bet? I am willing to stake my fortunes that I will take more heads than you.Fortunately, we are a broke motherfucker
>>32817302I can agree to that. Lets hope we keep up the great work and he does the same.
>>32817246>>Declare that you will fight himSo the rails are now doing whatever chen gong tells us.
>>32817316Welp, hopefully we recruited more strategists to balance him out by then. Luckily we are far, far away from Cao Cao
>>32817316A thousand times this.
>>32817302The only problem is, now we're not doing anything for ourselves and just following along what Raian's NPCs say. Which pretty much makes him playing the quest.
Rolled 80>>32817327Hey, you wanted better advice, you're getting better hints and advice.Why are you complainng.
>>32817337Raian can just save time and assume we'll follow all of Chen Gong's advice from now on. No need for votes.
>>32817327All honesty we would have done some stupid shit and brewed up another shitstorm
>>32817314You know, I've been itching to get into a duel ever since we got our new equipment but I feel like we still aren't at a high enough level to take someone like Taishi Ci.Then again I'm not sure where we rank amongst China's top warriors
>>32817336I'm sure we'll have opportunities to distinguish ourselves in other situations.If we went to pirate land, we would have had the opportunity to distinguish ourselves. No complaints, but that was something we turned down. Also, I consider him more of a crutch until we can boost our stats up. Seriously, we aren't that remarkable of a general right now. >>32817337It's that one dude who keeps crying about railroading, you can ignore him safely.
>>32817347The guy is still a person. He could mess up or try something on us.
>>32817302Of course he has been.Chen Gong's a QM PC that Raian made after people bitched that the hints he gave us weren't blatant enough. Now we have an actual character telling us what to do because apparently not being a dumbass isn't fun..
>>32817357>Also, I consider him more of a crutch until we can boost our stats up.Then we'll be following the advice in our own head instead from Chen Gong. Same problem.
Rolled 11>>32817372Hes also a historical advisor of Lu Bu and a loyal follower.
>>32817378Nah, the problem is that there is one clear path to victory and a lot of traps. The fact that this sort of advice is needed in the first place is bad.
>>32817327Except, you know, the part where we had the three options and going to the south won only by a few votes. And the part where Jia Qin was killed from not choosing to go fight them ourselves. And the part where people wanted to give waifu to fight instead of the other guys.You're just here to mess with everyone's fun and do whatever it takes to get this quest killed because you're a fucking faggot that's butthurt. Fuck off.
>>32817372He didn't force us to make any decision.Besides, our handling of the pirates, our heading down to the Southlands, were all options that we chose to follow without railroading or heavyhanded advice
>>32817378We'll see if that's a problem when it comes to it. I expect the game to open a lot more when we are in command and adjusting to situations on the fly. We are dealing with scrubs right now, and things should be relatively easy. Honestly, I've been having a ton of fun and his advice has been pretty common sense so far. So I have no complaints. >Maybe you shouldn't send Lu Bu's daughter when you have these guys who are eager to prove yourselfs>Yo Taishi Ci's sort of a badass Granted, anons almost ignored that basic advice.
Rolled 89>>32817392>The fact that this sort of advice is needed in the first place is bad.Theres the problem that even then we almost disregarded his advice and sent out lu bu's daughter.We're doomed.
>>32817398Ignore the guy trying to start a shitstorm.
>>32817398I think you're replying to the wrong person.Also, heading south and foraging were both pretty blatantly prefaced as things we should do.
>>32817412Obviously. If there is only one path to victory, then any time we deviate from it we're fucked. That's a systemic problem with this quest, though.
>>32817412Gao Shun fags will have their revenge one day.
>>32817426Yeah, all two of us
>>32817269I'd like to third this. I'd really like Taishi Ci.
Rolled 83>>32817426Hes next up on anything.
Rolled 89New thread soon?Page 9 and counting.
>>32817347What we have to worry about is fighting well and inspiring men during battle. Also, comradery. Our ties with other generals shall be our greatest strength. It is only when we get fucked over by a bunch of cowardly advisers that our bonds will fail us. If we can get Chen Gong to trust that we have good judgement when it comes to our opinions of whether someone will be loyal, we'll be a force to be reckoned with. Maybe.
>>32817356According to ROTK 11, which obviously isn't canon:We are Cao Ren, Gao Shun, Yue Jin tier in terms of WAR. Not bad, but not that big of a badass. Lu Linqi is still stronger than us
>>32817502>if we get the GMPC to tell us who is trustworthy, we'll be fineyou think?
>>32817509>Yue JinSo we're on the level of one of the 5 generals? Seems pretty decent to me.
>>32817509Which means we can ask her for tsun-tsun training.
>>32817523In terms of dueling skills, at least. He's a much better general than us in terms of LDR
Rolled 38If we get the family banner, I think we can forgo more of these duel fights, giving more to the henchmen to ensure their loyalty.
>>32817552Yes good ideaNo duels until we get the banner showing who we are
>>32817552Except for the generals on our list, we get first dibs at any duels with them:Sun Jian lackey we wounded, Cheng Pu, the 4 Prick Generals
>>32817570Fan Chou. We'll shout down Lu Bu himself if he tries to take Fan Chou from us.
>>328175704 dick generals we split between Lu Bu brah
>>32817583He's part of the 4 Prick Generals, although I think Lu Bu already de-handed one of them.
Rolled 79I like this dynamic.We listen to chen gong, lu bu listens to us more because he knows us as a competent warrior. He's less likely to tell us to piss off. We're becoming the glue that holds this faction together, dear god.
>>32817591Now if only we can get Zhang Liao to be loyal to us.
>>32817591More like we've become the puppet by which Chen Gong controls the entire operation.
>>32817591So I guess you could say It is our job to Expand Gong
>>32817516No, read again, bit better. We convince him of others' character and value, so that CG doesn't pull a Wang Yun on us. Then he plans and shit.
>>32817591I'm fine with this, at least until we go up against Cao Cao. Then Gong's gonna don his Celestial Retard hat.
>>32817606Shhh. We're not supposed to notice that.
>>32817611>pull a Wang Yun on usGive us good advice and the suffer a terrible fate because /tg/ has a boner for Lu Bu?
Rolled 58>>32817620then we gong his dong
>>32817634Get 3 out of 4 generals in a faction to rebel on him, then give good advice for terrible reasons that we felt safe in discounting.
Rolled 46You know what we should do for the victory celebrations?We toast Lingqi beating us fair and square in the bet.We'll be teased to hell for sure but she'll appreciate it.
>>32817652You're trying too hard.
Did we not earn any increase in war or lead for that fight?
>>32817652Too much I think
>>32817652That's a good idea. Maybe write her a poem in favour of her victory.
>>32817668>write her a poemI see what you did there.
>>32817668That would be abit much.Toasting's fine. Since its what warriors would do for each other.
>Agree and allow Lu Bu to fight himYou nod, and remain silent as Chen Gong goes over to Lu Bu and asks him to fight the duel. Lu Bu smiles brightly, and brings out his halberd. It seems he has been itching for a while. Red Hare in though, he charges forward."Do you know what they say of me, back in the north!?" he shouts swinging his halberd."Among men, Lu Bu. Among horses, Red Hare. It will be an honor to fight the Flying General! Have at you!"Lu Bu and Taishi Ci charge at each other, and their we