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>>32341938
So, I actually messed up slightly with the Darlesian foundry thing. I’m going to roll the restoration of the foundry in with the general reconstruction and rebuilding of the civvie factories for simplicity. No change to costs or timeframes.

Bartom: 1 (Darlesia)
Gnome: 2 (Harrowmont) – technically a tie but I’m deciding on Harrowmont out of fiat
Machinist: 1, followed by 5, 4 and 6 in that order (I’ll prompt for research when the 32 weeks of factory construction is over). Expenses are 380TBY.

Remaining Funds: 1020TBY

CONSTRUCTION BOOST
Note that Taour is in no need of a construction boost.
>1. Spend 100TBY on additional labourers to remove 6 months of reconstruction time from Darlesia’s reconstruction
>2. Spend 50TBY on additional labourers to remove 3 months of reconstruction time from Darlesia’s reconstruction
>3. Don’t spend money to speed up Darlesian reconstruction

PRODUCTION
Note that production is separate to recruitment (next post). If you do not recruit more then existing men-at-arms and archers will be upgraded.

HMK VOTE
140 currently in army
>1. Produce 600 suits for 240TBY (52 weeks production)
>2. Produce 300 suits for 120 TBY (26 weeks production)
>3. Produce no suits

MMK VOTE
1500 currently in army
>1. Produce 2400 suits for 120TBY (52 weeks production)
>2. Produce 1200 suits for 60 TBY (26 weeks production)
>3. Produce no suits

AA VOTE
600 currently in army
>1. Produce 6000 units for 120TBY (52 weeks production)
>2. Produce 3000 units for 60 TBY (26 weeks production)
>3. Produce 1500 units for 30 TBY (26 weeks production)
>4. Produce no units

Rolled 10, 3, 8 = 21

>>32341938
Will we ever meet the guy in the picture?is he mage talon?

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>>32341920
>Actually, what did our mages have to say about the recovered shield piercing balista bolt we intercepted?
It's nothing special. They basically cast a ritual on it before it fired. Mal could do the same thing if he wanted to. Miniaturizing it might be much harder.

>>32341978
If you look at the financial position statement, you'll notice the current estimated taxes are much lower than the maximums - that's because you're not pulling in much revenue.

>>32342013
2
2
1
1

>>32342013
>Darlesia
>1

>Production
>HMK
>2
>MMK
>1
>AA
>1

Rolled 4, 7, 4, 8 = 23

>>32342013

>1
>2
>1
>1

Spend money to make money

>>32340621
Sarah said something about vitria needing to recover. Does this mean its revenue was higher before the war?
What about darlesia and taour? That is, once the war rebuilding is finished what can we expect our revenue to be?

>>32342013
>Machinest
>Blow 300TBY on factories we cannot afford to operate
we already have more factories than we can afford to run.

>>32342013
>1. Spend 100TBY on additional labourers to remove 6 months of reconstruction time from Darlesia’s reconstruction

>>1. Produce 600 suits for 240TBY (52 weeks production)

>1. Produce 2400 suits for 120TBY (52 weeks production)

>2. Produce 3000 units for 60 TBY (26 weeks production)

>>32342013
1
2
2
2

>>32342013
>1. Spend 100TBY on additional labourers to remove 6 months of reconstruction time from Darlesia’s reconstruction

HMK VOTE
140 currently in army
>1. Produce 600 suits for 240TBY (52 weeks production)

MMK VOTE
1500 currently in army
>1. Produce 2400 suits for 120TBY (52 weeks production)

AA VOTE
600 currently in army
>1. Produce 6000 units for 120TBY (52 weeks production)

>>32342013
1
2
1
1

>>32342068
>If you look at the financial position statement, you'll notice the current estimated taxes are much lower than the maximums - that's because you're not pulling in much revenue.
oh, I thought that was just yearly random variance, I didn't realize this was the answer to my question

>>32342013
2
2
1
2

>Note that production is separate to recruitment
Don't forget we need to recruit people and it will cost money to do so. Don't spend all the cash on armor to sit in storage.

>>32342093
Keynes, please go.

>>32342195

Chicago a Shit, Fuck Da Cubs

>>32342013
if we max out all production, the cost is 480TBY
This does NOT actually push us into deficit spending!
Going for max reconstruction will push us into a light deficit spending. But we have the treasury to take it
It also does not account for the new factories we are building which will be complete before year end.

>>32342210
But what about Daaaaa Bears?

>>32342013
We are going to want a heavy core for Our HMK when we charge in. We should also get higher levels of AA. Honestly thinking on it with 1020 TBY I can't see much reason to not max everything out. Since it would just be 580 TBY for a giant chunk of well equipped troops.

>>32342195
1. don't bring irl politics please
2. his argument wasn't keynesian in nature. (war reconstruction and military spending)

>>32342227

Peanut Tillman, Brandon Marshall rule, Bears drool

>>32342229
I agree with the max spending on everything plan. It would mean deficit spending of a mere 5% of our current treasury.
And we need the troops NOW.

>>32342278

JG Wentworth, please.

>>32342013
>Remaining Funds: 1020TBY
where did this figure come from?
last thread you said
>Projected Net Revenue = 501TBY
>Current Treasury = 900TBY

Did you add the two up and then subtract the cost of constructing new factories?

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>>32342318
I just did annual flow because it's simpler. You're a government so it's damned simpler than doing quarterly cash flows and other nonsense. Pretend there's some debt financing taking place behind the scenes if you want to be realistic.

I should know better than not to check others math. The production figures were actual for 48 weeks, not 52 weeks (I’m guessing that anon did month = 4 weeks). I’ll just have to note that down.

Construction Boost: 1 (100TBY expense)
HMKs: 2 (300 suits for 120TBY)
MMKs: 1 (2400 suits for 120TBY)
AAs: 1 (6000 units for 120TBY)

Note that I’ll prompt for additional production when the new factories are done.

Remaining Funds: 560TBY

RECRUITMENT VOTE
Note that every 1000 men you recruit will cost 33TBY every year. They may also have extra up-front costs.
Currently you have approx. 11500 soldiers.
>1. Recruit 200 new soldiers. (7TBY per year expense)
This will mean all of your men-at-arms and archers will be converted to mage-knights or arcane archers.
>2. Recruit 8500 new soldiers to replace your existing men-at-arms and archers as they take up better equipment (280TBY per year expense)
>3. Recruit 5000 new soldiers to replace some of your existing MAAs and archers. (165TBY per year)
>4. Custom

This should be the last vote like this. Then we'll be back to other things.

>>32342401

>2

As long as there's no other budget votes this thread, sure

>>32342401
>2. Recruit 8500 new soldiers to replace your existing men-at-arms and archers as they take up better equipment (280TBY per year expense)

>>32342401
Is this the last budget option?
As >>32342444 said if it is the last one than lets go with max recruitment.
If there is more stuff to spend on than I would like to know what the options are before voting here.

>>32342401
3

>>32342401
>HMKs: 2 (300 suits for 120TBY)

;_; makes me sad. Oh well at least it saves up money for the 8.5K army growth. If it wins that is.

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>>32342469
This is the last budget option for the thread. Keep in mind this is an entire year's spending, though.

>>32342401
3

>>32342401
>Note that I’ll prompt for additional production when the new factories are done.
It is possible we would conquer termina before that happens. which means more income

>>32342401
2
its a bit cold but... i don't expect them all to survive anyways

>>32342401
3

Feel like we should keep at least some cash for emergencies for the next campaign.

>>32342547
the more we outnumber the enemy, the quicker we win, the more territory we own, the more money we make.

>>32342601
also, fewer losses

>>32342601
The more vunerable we are to reverses

>>32342601
Assuming we're going to continue to go out and conquer. Aren't we setting ourselves up to turtle and rebuild a bit?

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Rolled 2

Tie-breaker roll

1 = option 2
2 = option 3

>>32342622
what do you mean by a reverse?

>>32342633
1. Not for YEARS
2. Once war reconstruction is finished our income goes up by 800TBY
3. We already decided to take termina and nobody is going to stop us
4. we are turtling for a few months, during which we recruit
5. the extra expense from the troops is really low

>>32342643
2

Since we are in a period of down time will recruitment be more stretched out so the men we gather are Green as opposed to Conscripts?

Also damn our army is large. I assume we'll be needing some more Generals and down here soon.

>>32342668
>Also damn our army is large
heh. I bet we are so much small potatoes compared to the forces being fielded by, say, the RSK

>>32342684

Truth.

It's just weird remembering when we were fighting 500 on 500 battles in Harrowmont and only having Undine and Lynn as our support.

Damn son and we've gotten to this in say 6 months or so. It's just really cool.

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>>32342668

We need a Bittenfeld-type as one of our new generals

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Recruitment: 2 (5000 new soldiers for 165TBY per year expense)

Remaining Funds for the Year: 395TBY

After a long and exhausting session of debates and arguments over recruitment, the costs and foundry projects, you lean back for a moment. You shouldn’t need to worry too much about having to do this again for a while, at least.

RESEARCH

“Some good news for you, Talon,” Tsucchi says. “There’s a vampire and her thralls being shipped here. This is unprecedented – if I analyse them I may be able to learn more about thralls than has been done so ever before. I strongly urge you to delay any decisions you might make about vampires and thralls for now.”

“Easy enough,” you say. “With Taour in the shape it is now I’m more afraid that any action against the vampires could set the whole place off and cause mass slaughter of thralls.”

Tsucchi nods and you talk with Mal for a bit on his research.

“I’ll need to raid the libraries in Ahm for the next step. I hear you’re going there shortly?” he asks.

“I need to meet an archmage,” you say and explain the current timetable to everybody.

>any final things to bring up before ending the meeting?

I’ll be doing some discussion with Tsucchi about FR points before finishing the session up with some social stuff. Next session will be Ahm (unless you vote to not do the diplomatic visit).

>>32342668
You can safely assume that, barring sudden conflicts, all your new recruits will be Green.

>>32342711
Isn't that Mal?

>>32342730

>Hyper-aggressive general who's main shtick is that everyone knows that he's going to charge but he does it anyway
>Plows right through traps because everyone underestimates the power of his charges
>Stupid Lucky and does the most damage out of any Imperial Generals

Not particularly

>>32342723
Did the armor colors get standardized or are they still what ever they were?

>>32342723

>any final things to bring up before ending the meeting?

Just because it's been brought up so much can we confirm that the design in the MMK/HMK will be something a bit different in terms of looks or are we going to have to vote on it?

Do our Fluffytails have any of their business they want to bring up? I mean they have relations with our empire now, they might have something.

Unrelated. Mal's crystals, Vad's date with Nate.

>>32342723
Can we see the faces of the Grandmasters when we drop the Ranger order on them?

>any final things to bring up before ending the meeting?
Does "who we are putting in charge of Taour and Darlesia" count? Because I'm in favor of just announcing that we're reorganizing the territories and any noble or heir with a claim should present us paperwork in a timely fashion, or we'll just start ignoring them.

>>32342772
I was really just going off of the picture.

>>32342723
Could we see the Grandmaster reaction to our Ranger order announcement? in particular, our prepared snappy comeback will be fun.

>>32342833

I wonder when we'll announce it.

Before the Tourney?

Hell can we make the Tourney a whole big affair in Harrowmont? Melee, archery contest, whatever else? We have not had a single celebration since we conquered all this land that was a big deal, why not bring two things together.

>>32342868
That sounds great, a unification celebration or something. To foster good wills between the populace and such.

>>32336488
>A mage could, if they knew how, bind a PoP and the familiar with it.

>the pop bound exclusively to the mage (providing only the mage with power) and the familiar bound exclusively to the mage (getting power only from the mage, which may be power the mage got from the pop)

>>32337068
>Talon can't bind Sylph himself as he has no way of binding her as she's not connected to his Source.
>Best candidate would be a magister - affinities don't really matter too much if you do it in person and the PoP would reduce the strain a fair bit (Mal could take on a second familiar for instance).

So, talon would need to to claim the source connected to sylph if he wants her as a familiar of his. Otherwise he needs to bring a magister who will bind both her and the POP. And Mal is a candidate for this...

Well, I would really like her to be talon's familiar. But having mal get her and the pop at once seems most sensible.

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>>32342776
I'm happy for people to bash out a colour/design scheme and vote on it later if there's any contention.

>>32342780
The fox stuff has no news for now. Mal's research is why he needs to go to Ahm (sorry it was unclear). The date can wait for social stuff.

>>32342783
>>32342833
I was hoping to put off any more super serious management stuff for another thread. I'm a little exhausted right now after the last few hours of thread.

>>32342868
That's a pretty good idea.

>Doing the FR discussion scene. Have any questions prepared if I don't answer them. Hopefully my writing quality isn't too shot but expect the next post to be slightly delayed.

>>32342909

>give Mal two familiars
>his mage ego begins to rival our emperor ego
>still isn't an Archmage

Get it together Mal.

>>32342723
Maybe a bigg ass celebration throughout the empore?

>>32342868
holding a big tourney in harrowmont sounds like a good way for the source to be discovered.

>>32342930

Because we'll be inviting a pile of people into the deeper bowels of the castle proper that is guarded by the best of the best.

I don't think that'll be much of an issue. Besides it'll mostly be mundane humans there. Maybe some dorfs and fluffytails.

>>32342913
Cool, I'm fine with the blue and white with a griffin or whatever it was. What about the rest of you guys?

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>>32342913

>color/design

I was partial to the sleek silver with an embossed Griffon that was thrown around for awhile. Also pic related is just sort of how I imagined MMK.

>big event a good idea

Awesome, that'll be a nice pretty much social thread, would be good after all this craziness.

>>32342951
they don't have to enter the source chamber to sense it. any mage of sufficient power can feel it from outside.
So the question is, will any mages of sufficient power be in the audience.

>>32342992
>mage of sufficient power
and remember, knights are muscle mages
also. there are non humans to consider. What if lynn's dad comes to see her compete?

>>32343004

>big ass dragon comes to see his little girl beat the ever living shit out of a bunch of humans

I want it to be so.

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“Tsucchi, do you have a minute?” you ask the seven-tailed fox as everybody else exits.

Tsucchi walks over to you, sashaying slightly as she usually does – you’ve yet to work out if it’s something she does normally or if she’s putting on a show. You catch Vad talking with Mal about some plans with Nate and make a mental note to talk to him about it later. Lynn and Sala are whispering to each other, their looks making it clear it’s about Finn. First Vad and now Finn… Those girls…

Speaking of Finn, you notice him lurking near the entranceway, obviously waiting for you. He doesn’t know anything about your astral power currently and he’s new enough that you’re unsure of the degree to which you can trust him. On the other hand, if he’s your squire he’ll find out soon enough simply by being around you.

>1. Shoo him out of the room.
>2. Leave him where he is.
>3. Invite him to join in your discussion.

>>32343063
>2. Leave him where he is.

He told us a big personal thing today, it would be proper to do the same for him. Might help inspire him more.

>>32343063
>2. Leave him where he is.

>>32343063
2 or 3. its not like we can keep it a secret from him.

>>32343063
>>2. Leave him where he is.

>>32343063
how good is elf hearing? because i am thinking that for 2 he would hear it all anyways. Only he won't be able to volunteer anything (if he knows something)

>>32342981
Yeah this is pretty much what I thought when I first proposed the slick silver design. Maybe a little more streamlined but pretty much that plus A Griffith emblem on the chest.

>>32343063
>2. Leave him where he is.

>>32343063
>You catch Vad talking with Mal about some plans with Nate and make a mental note to talk to him about it later.

This is going to be adorable.

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>>32343133
That was basically the intention of it. He'll be able to hear what you're saying but he'll know he's not in the discussion, merely a witness.

>>32343140
>>32342981
This works for me, I like it.

>>32343004
>Lynns dad
>visiting

Oh god no. We could probably put some seats on his head.

>>32342981
while this is utterly beautiful
isn't silver a bad color choice? We should get something that provides camouflage.
Also, I am curious to know what color is the armor of surrounding nations.

>>32343215
PS. painting armor seems... wrong to me.

>>32343215

Well my think was this, our MMKs are army bulk, out in the field and the open like proper soldiers. Not guerrilla warfare types, like our Flyers, AAs, and potentially LMK. The latter would definitely benefit from using camo, or invisibility.

>>32343199
He can also pretend to be human. Personally, I can't wait until we have a chance to mention the dragon harem idea to him or someone else. The reaction should be hilarious.

>>32343309

I can't wait until we try to Diplomacy him into helping us and we nail all the rolls and Aspirational despairs as he has to rewrite everything. Oh don't think we forgot.

>>32343234
I feel like it's a thing that was done, but searching google all I get are photoshop tutorials on how to paint armor in a painting, a painting guardian armor set from Dark Souls, and a painting company called Armor.

>>32343234

Isn't paint, the factories just make them that way, because lolmagic. Taour had bitching purple armour, and black HMKs if you remember.

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>2.

You give Finn a nod to let him know you’re aware he’s there before you turn back to Tsucchi. She’s standing near you, silver tails waving slightly in the air behind her. You lean against a nearby chair, idly wondering how she gets her robes made up for the seven protrusions coming out of her back.

Sensing your idle thoughts, Tsucchi starts the conversation, “You’ve certainly managed to cause quite the stir in the world, Talon. And in such a short time, too. Certainly and impressive feat for one man.”

“I’m not just a man and I certainly didn’t do it alone,” you say automatically. You pause for a moment before asking the fox about the real topic here. “Vad showed me how to focus my power a little and the results are… rather terrifying, to be honest. It feels like I’m bending reality itself.”

Tsucchi looks confused at your confession, and you explain the recent instances of you seeing danger before it happens and then just… making it disappear. By the end of the explanation, Tsucchi’s look is parts hard and concerned.

“Nothing Vad showed you could lead to this,” she says cautiously, ears pricked and tails lowered behind her. You’re not sure if she feels slightly threatened by you after this revelation or she’s about to say something you might not like. “Merely focusing your power shouldn’t give you the ability to enforce your will to such an extent.”

“Enforce my will? That’s an interesting way to put it though I’m not sure it’s accurate,” you say, thinking as you drum your fingers against the edge of the wooden chair. “I’m not sure if it’s my will that’s being reflected. Perhaps my wishes? Or the counter to my fears? My memories of precisely what I’m thinking and doing whenever I’ve done this become fuzzy so quickly.”

>continued

>>32343336
Try phrasing your search as a question?

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>>32343448
“That worries me even more,” Tsucchi says. “I can’t help you much, I’m afraid. The only thing I’m certain of is that you’re not human and the instinctive ability you have to use your power this way suggests that some part of you knows how to use this power.”

“You’re saying I’m the reincarnation of something?” you ask, sounding dubious.

“Hardly. Such a thing isn’t strictly possibly except in legend. No, most likely whatever you’re tapping into has existing knowledge – that’s how created beings like us foxes work. We simply know things unlike you humans who have to learn them.”

You blink at that. You feel something was said that you should have caught but were too heavily focused on your own inner thoughts. You move on, “I feel like I’m depleting something. And I also suspect I can keep tapping into it even when it feels dry.”

“And you want to know how to refill it?” Tsucchi asks, her normal posture resuming a little as she smiles slightly. “Honestly, if it’s astral power the only thing that comes to mind is your emotional and mental power. Most likely the well you’re depleting is your own reservoir of mental power that you’re using for astral power and if you go any further you’ll be tapping on whatever your real source is. Try to rebuild that… somehow.”

You blink, unsure of how useful that is. Tsucchi has at least pointed you in the right direction, even if she can’t provide definite advice.

>Any questions for Tsucchi about FR points, astral power or anything she brought up?

>>32343459
nope

>>32343459
>The only thing I’m certain of is that you’re not human
>unlike you humans who have to learn them.

Make up your mind woman.

>>32343459
>“Hardly. Such a thing isn’t strictly possibly except in legend. No, most likely whatever you’re tapping into has existing knowledge – that’s how created beings like us foxes work. We simply know things unlike you humans who have to learn them.”
Well now
>created beings like us foxes work
So...
1. foxes are created... can she elaborate on that?
2. Talon has been wondering WHAT he is too. Is she saying he must be some sort of created being? someone's experiment perhaps?

>>32343506
or. talon is tapping into a created being?
no that makes no sense... she said he is tapping into his own emotional and mental wellspring.

So, we have 0 FR, we can overspend but that is harmful...
Or is it actually?
>if you go any further you’ll be tapping on whatever your real source is.
At first glance this sounds harmful. as if it would permanently weaken us or otherwise harm us. But in second glance it sounds like it might allow for growth opportunities.
Or maybe i am misreading it?

>>32343459
I would like to know why foxes tap into talon when casting nearby
... could talon have some fox in him?

>>32343459
"Can you give me an example of what sort of things would help me to rebuild that reservoir?"
"Ever heard of this sort of thing before?"

>>32343566

Oh yeah that's a good question. Almost forgot about that.

>>32343459
"Created? Now that is an interesting picture there. I heard most astral beings have a set mindset. I wonder if my human one could have by nature be designed in such a way as to reach around such limitations. Or perhaps I just haven't felt the full effects yet."

>>32343583
>>32343566
Wasn't that one obvious? She was just drawing in ambient astral power and inadvertently tapped Talon because she didn't realize he was a source of that power.

>>32343566
A better question would be. "How do foxes notice when I do this?"

I really dislike the mental picture of bring up that she can hurt us that easily. Though I get the feeling if we could get better control that would be far harder.

>>32343459
Is Talon like a conduit for reality or the world's will? His mind, body or soul can only handle so much until its all aligned or strengthened?

I have a good feeling we're going to need to meet Talon's family here soon. Mom and Pop York might have some explaining to do.

>>32343459
Supposedly the 3 lords used to be human until they ascended via magic ritual. Does that make them created beings?
God-knights used to be humans until they were uplifting by the lords... are they created beings?
Is a person under a fae blessing a created being?

... oooh, what if we were born human, but as a kid stumbled upon some ancient demon research facility and got exposed to some uplifting research they had?

>>32343610
>reality or the world

I don't think so. Paying attention to Talons other side when he has visions and flips out. He seems more egotistical and godlike. Remember the elementals when he said they where natural and pure and how foxes where unnatural yet blended in?

That feels less like the world and more like a full on demigod who knows a lot more then Talon himself seems to know.

>>32343640
An Angel or some being bound its soul to kid Talon?

>>32343640
>Supposedly the 3 lords used to be human until they ascended via magic ritual. Does that make them created beings?
THE LORDS ORIGINS ARE UNKNOWN.

>>32343608
I think we should practice with vad... tug of war over our own magic

>>32343459
WAIT! Instinctive knowledge! WE had all those flashes of knowledge and thought that seemed so foreign

The bit about the elemental sisters being pure representation of the world we wish to save.
The foxes being proof that corruptors can be assimilated
The part about doing a better job if you created a world (in the corridor)...
Those weren't talon losing his mind, it was talon tapping into that instinctive knowledge she is describing.

>>32343640
Wouldn't explain the points where Talon flips the fuck out and starts talking about shit he shouldn't know. What ever Talon is he probably wasn't uplifted.

>>32343668

That's a thought. I wonder if the situation is relatively similar to that Fae we met. What if Talon is sharing a vessel with some demigod/angel/whatever and it is only tempered by Talon's sheer force of will.

>>32343683
well... a mortally wounded angel perhaps?
Or maybe talon stumbled upon the corpse of a freshly killed angel and it merged with him. But only tatters of the angel remain

>>32343685
AFAIK it is supposedly common knowledge that lord ember invented the ritual of ascension that made the 3 lords

>>32343686
>Talon losing his mind

Why would anyone consider it that at first? It was too organized for mind losing. To basic and to the point. Like it knew far more then we do.

>>32343714
oho... what if like the fae, whatever we contain wishes to consume us to recreate itself?
kid talon stumbles on dying fae/angel. makes deal... creature too weak to come back... yet.

>>32343730
we thought maybe astral power causes mindbreak. especially because lord ember recently went nuts and fae are all insane and angels aren't the most stable either

then again, it could be like that spiel we gave lynn when she was worried about the same thing

>>32343722
>AFAIK it is supposedly common knowledge that lord ember invented the ritual of ascension that made the 3 lords
NOPE. They just showed up one day and bitch slapped wizard hitler.

>>32343714
Problem there is how he seems to be in control. He even at his most bizarre moments remembers himself as Talon. He may go off like in the tunnels. But he knows who he is most of the time. So I don't think it's something like a fusion because that would give too many signs of what he fused with.

>>32343777
are you familiar with the comic errant story?
maybe something like that (absorb the corpse of an energy being getting their knowledge but not personality)

>>32343777

Well for a good long while that fella with the Fae was in control, hell he created his own world essentially so the possibility is there that the control is either something innate or allowed for now.

Hell possibly it is allowing Talon to be in control because his actions are directly feeding it.

But that's all a lot of out there theory that is likely unfounded and incorrect.

>>32343754
>Causes mindbreak
>Archangels exist for 1200 years and still haven't lost it.
>2 lords still fine.
>Most fae are perfectly sane for them.

Unlikely. It was probably just something based on Ember. That and all the other astral people are set while we aren't set at all and our mindset is pretty human.

>>32343810
Yeah the thing there is Vad pretty much instantly noticed once he got in 10 feet and foxy waifu is even more skilled so she should notice a lot easier.

>>32343822
>Angels are sane
that really goes into the definition of sanity
>Fae are sane compared to other fae
but insane compared to everyone else

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>questions

“Hold on, you said that foxes were created beings. What does that mean?” you ask, remembering what it was you missed earlier.

Tsucchi looks surprised, then looks away, looking a little uncertain. “Did I say that?” she says, before sighing and turning back to you with a slightly bashful look. “I guess I did. It’s not strictly true – unlike most created beings – angels, infernals and the like - we can reproduce biologically. The problem is many other things about us are illogical for a natural being. Our tails, for one, could never have occurred naturally let alone for us to know instinctively how to use them and cast our arrays – that’s what we call a spell, for reference.”

“Couldn’t you say the same thing about dragons?” you say.

“Dragons are natural and they use magic in much the same way as humans,” Tsucchi says, shaking her head. “No, my brother believes we’re created beings who can pretend to be otherwise.”

You frown at that. “You said angels are created? By who? And what about elementals? You’re saying I’m like them?”

“I don’t know who created divine beings, given their origins. And yes, elementals are created beings as well – created by the world, or rather the flows of magic. As for you… I don’t know. You seem human. You have a normal soul, so far as I can tell. Yet you can draw on power in such an odd way.”

“What about when you accidentally tapped into my power?” you ask.

>continued

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>>32343881
Tsucchi smiles slightly at that. “That was just because you had so much power lingering in you. Normally when casting my arrays I just reach out and grab as much energy nearby as possibly, to save my own strength. You weren’t guarding yours at all so I grabbed all of it at once by accident – an amateur mistake on my part, as pulling in so much power would probably have killed me, in retrospect. Rather dramatically. It should be trivial for you to guard against such a thing in the future. I can even teach you.”

You run a hand through your hair, not liking the fact that you technically almost killed Tsucchi when you met her. “What might rebuild this reservoir you mentioned?”

“I wouldn’t know. Whatever gives you mental strength – your ego, from my point of view but you might actually be more complex than that for all I know,” Tsucchi says with a small smile as she jabs at you.

As you think on the next question, one of Tsucchi’s tails waves a bit close to you and you brush it away without thinking. She squeaks slightly before recovering her composure and stepping back a bit. Oh, right, the whole tail thing, you think as you catch Tsucchi schooling her expression.

“Are the Three Lords created beings?” you ask. “What about the god-knights or those blessed by Fae.”

“I don’t know,” Tsucchi says, shrugging. “The specifics of uplifting or what the Lords are is beyond me. As are the specifics of the Fae-blessed – there’s so few of them, after all.”

Something comes to you as you think some more. An odd thought that came to you when fighting that revenant. You try to translate the words into something that makes sense – it feels like it’s there but not. ‘Corruptors can be assimilated’ – what does it mean?

[DC19 Knowledge]

Rolled 8

>>32343897

Rolled 9

>>32343897
Damn it that 1 coming back to bite us on the ass.

Rolled 13

>>32343897

Rolled 9

>>32343897

>>32343459
>your emotional and mental power.
>Try to rebuild that… somehow.”
Well now...
...
...
more wifus?

>>32343861
>Definition of sanity

They defended the world. That counts for something at least and the fae we met at least had a general personality.

>>32343758
>NOPE. They just showed up one day and bitch slapped wizard hitler.
>Kushan has a DC 10 bitchslap Archangel of death check.

I think it took all the archangels+lords+other shit we haven't seen together to take that guy down.

Well ego seems about right. Talon's overwelming warrior's spirit helped him regain a FR point after utterly destroying that one Daywalker.

Rolled 10

>>32343897
This will never be passed.

Rolled 1

>>32343897
>That moment when you wish you had a FR point

>>32343897
>I can even teach you
well, I would like that
It wouldn't due to accidentally kill people when they draw in our power.

Actually, this reminds me of our instinctive knowledge that directly handling the fae's astral power would have been very bad for us. Worth mentioning?

>>32344011
Thats what I was thinking, would be a little tempted to burn one to find out how to replace them.
>>32343897
Anyways thanks for the run Aspie, I gotta go to bed.

>>32344042
>Thats what I was thinking, would be a little tempted to burn one to find out how to replace them.
In context, I don't think that this is what the knowledge roll was for. Rather, it was for the origins/nature of fluffy tails

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>Target not met

You shake your head, unable to make any sense of those strange thoughts you had so long ago. You doubt that calling the foxes corruptors will get you anywhere pleasant, either. Especially given you don’t know precisely how dangerous Tsucchi truly is with seven tails – for all you know, she could turn you into kibble with a wave of those pretty lengths of fluff and fur.

You thank her for her help and book in some time to spend with her to learn how to guard your energy more. Then you leave, with Finn following you – the elf looks a little overwhelmed. You suspect much of the conversation went over his head, which is probably for the better. You’d intended to catch Vad and Mal and talk to them about Vad’s date but unfortunately get caught by Lynn and Sala first.

“Tallie, let’s have some fun!” Sala says, bouncing right into your face. Lynn’s not much better, making a pair of bubbly girls who, if you didn’t know better, had drunk a lot of alcohol.

Finn looks a little overwhelmed by the two girls, and it’s pretty clear from their behaviour that the ‘fun’ should include Finn.

>What sort of fun should you have?

This is basically a scene suggestion. I’m going to do a short scene here then doing a small thing with Vad before ending for the night.

>>32344083

Flying. Has to be flying.

Rolled 2

>>32344083
foursome

>>32344083
Singing or sparring contest is my vote.

>>32344101
no

>>32344133
fine bring the foxes along for the ride then.

Rolled 2, 9, 7, 2 = 20

>>32344114

I can go for either one of this

Boys against Girls

Have your squire defend your honor

>>32344083

Prank Sarah, Mal, Gnome, and Val. Drunken shenanigans

Clearly whatever we do it needs to involve alcohol. Squire, retrieve.

>>32344207
we don't get drunk

Rolled 4, 3, 7, 1 = 15

>>32344191
Nvm, gonna support this instead

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VOTE
>1. Drunken shenanigans.
>2. Sparring contest, boys v girls.
>3. Flying.
>4. Custom

>>32344228
1

>>32344218

I was of the impression it was Talon burning the alcohol via magic so he didn't get drunk, but was otherwise capable if he didn't intentionally burn it off.

>>32344228
>1

>>32344228
>1. Drunken shenanigans.

Oh god we're going to corrupt Finn.

>>32344228
1 and 3 if possible, ifnot 1

>>32344241
Probably right, but i remember him saying he hasn't truly gotten drunk in a long time.

Rolled 5

>>32343897
>She squeaks slightly before recovering her composure and stepping back a bit.
>She squeaks

>Tsucchi squeaks

That mental image if killing me inside.

Really random question, since a lot of us are from the US(assumedly) the voices we hear the characters in our heads likely all sound pretty American I'd imagine. But Aspirational you're from Australia, does everyone sound Australian to you?

Rolled 13

>>32344309
>Sound Australian

God damn it man. Now I hear Talon speaking full Australian accent and all.

>>32344228
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Probably not what was envisaged but I'm trying to end this quickly before my imagination completely dries up.

>1

You’re not usually one to get drunk but you’re in the sort of mood that could use some loosening. Why not have a good time for the first time in a long while?

“Have you girls have anything to drink yet?” you ask.

Lynn looks confused but Sala catches on fast. “Noooo. Are we going to?”

“Yes. Finn, there’s a few bottles of brandy in my room. Grab them and meet us in the same room we take meals,” you say.

Finn hurries off with a rather... gleeful expression on his face.

The rest of the day becomes a bit of a blur. At some point Undine found the four of you and joined in. You remember trying to teach Finn how to be assertive towards women.

“Remember that they have something that you want,” you say. “And if you want it bad enough, they’re going to give it to you.”

“Is… is that really how it works?” Finn asks you, sounding more surprised than nervous. His face is bright red from the alcohol. The three girls are giggling further behind you.

“Not really. It’s more about being confident. Force of personality works pretty well, especially for your target,” you remember saying.

>continued

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>>32344462
Then you give Finn a push and join the others down the hall. The young elf gives the door a knock and after a little while Gnome answers the door. She knew you were down there and pulled Finn into her room. It was a bluff, despite the stupid expression of Finn’s face when he found you all an hour later. All he got was the chance to give her a back massage and a kiss on the cheek – you make a mental note, as you lay in bed at 3am in the morning, that you need to teach your squire more about women. Preferably with women you wouldn’t mind him sleeping with. He saw a little too much of them last night and you make another mental note that you should never get them drunk around men they treat like furniture.

For all Sala’s and Lynn’s playful flirting, clearly Finn’s young appearance caused them to not think of him as a man and instead did some things you would have stopped them from doing if you’d been sober. It’s one thing to be able to purge oneself of alcohol, another to have the presence of mind to do it.

So it was that you ushered Finn off and you’re now laying awake with three sleeping (or meditating in two cases) women cuddled up to you. You peel them off you and go for a walk to get yourself a drink. Outside the small kitchenette on the level you hear Vad and Finn’s voices. You…

>1. Eavesdrop.
>2. Join in their conversation.
>3. Custom

>>32344484
>2. Join in their conversation.

I laughed pretty hard at drunk Talon trying to describe how to get with women.

>>32344484
1

>>32344484
>1. Eavesdrop.

Just need to enhance our hearing a bit.

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>>32344515
Talon gets by with women purely by force of personality. He'd be the worst person to get dating advice from.

>>32344484
>2

>>32344484
>1. Eavesdrop.

>>32344484
Listen for a bit then join in

>>32344543

So naturally Talon setting up Vad/Nate was destined for success.

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>1.

“So how did you get her?” you hear Finn’s voice asking Vad. “Were you really confident?”

“Err, not really,” Vad answers, obviously bashful. “She found the nervousness cute, though. The tails helped a lot. Chicks love the tails.”

“I don’t think I can grow tails,” Finn says, sounding disappointed.

“True, and by the time a girl is putting one on you it’s unlikely you’d need any advice,” Vad says, to Finn’s utter confusion. “But you’re Talon’s squire – surely he gave some useful advice?”

“He said to be confident,” Finn says. “I’m not sure it worked. Though I did get something from Gnome.”

There’s an awkward pause inside the kitchen. “Define something, Finn?” Vad asks slowly.

“I gave her a massage and she gave me a kiss,” Finn says, sounding a little lost in his own world.

You hear a short bark of laughter from Vad. “That’s not something – work on that, too. Learn what you actually want from the woman.”

Finn’s voice sounds a little upset when he speaks again, “Well, I got to see plenty with Ladies Salamander, Caitlyn and Undine. Then Sir Talon threw me out.”

“You saw plenty of Caitlyn?” Vad says, breathless. “Lucky bastard. Careful around them, though – your master has all of them.”

“How do I do that?” Finn asks. “Get all these really pretty women?”

>continued

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>>32344816
“Grow a foot taller, bulk up a lot, develop chiselled features, become a famous general and conqueror and always act like you don’t care what anybody thinks of you,” Vad says offhandedly.

“I don’t think I can do most of those,” Finn says sourly. “In fact, I don’t think I can do any of those.”

“You can do the last one, at least,” you say, stepping into the kitchenette. “What? It’s my castle. I can be wherever I feel like being.”

Vad gives you an exasperated look. “So, all three of them? Really?”

“Yep,” you say as you make up a small coffee, understanding who he was referring to. “How’d things go with Nate?”

Vad grins stupidly. “Great. Went further than I expected – not as far as I’d hoped. Doing something more tomorrow night. She’s really cute.”

“I bet she thinks the same of you, Vad,” you say. “Get some sleep. The both of you need plenty of practice tomorrow.”

As you step out of the room, you hear Finn say, “I wish I could meet whoever taught him to be like that. Everything would be so easy.”

“He wasn’t taught, he merely was,” Vad says. “And face it, you’ve got the next best thing as a tutor now.”

>That’s the thread.

I’ll be around for a very short while before heading off for a few hours (as I usually do when I run on Saturdays).

Next thread is 30th May at 6pm EDT.

>>32344836

Thanks for the thread, surprisingly fun doing all the empire management stuff. Are we catching up to your schedule now?

>>32344836
>“He wasn’t taught, he merely was,” Vad says. “And face it, you’ve got the next best thing as a tutor now.”

That's probably one of the most accurate things anyone has ever said about Talon. I don't know why it just struck me the right way.

>>32344836
thanks and good night

>>32344836
>“Grow a foot taller, bulk up a lot, develop chiselled features, become a famous general and conqueror and always act like you don’t care what anybody thinks of you,” Vad says offhandedly.

Best advice I've heard all day.

>>32344885

Didn't included growing the most amazing beard in existence. 9/10 advice

Other then all things concerning vampires, I think we finally caught up on the long list of Player suggested ideas, so that's nice at least.

Think you'll go for grand festival Tourney Aspirational? If so when do you think you'll do it?

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>>32344968
>Other then all things concerning vampires, I think we finally caught up on the long list of Player suggested ideas, so that's nice at least.
After an absolute monster session where I felt like I was drowning, yes, yes we have.

I dread opening the can of worms that is vampire treatment.

>Think you'll go for grand festival Tourney Aspirational? If so when do you think you'll do it?

After the Ahm stuff - the main thing about Ahm is that I don't know if you guys are going to try for the PoP in the city while you're there or put it off for later so I'm hesitant to plan much in detail after Ahm right now.

>>32344836
>all dis moe

Anyway glad we are almost to Ahm and the archmage. All those fun economics burned me out for a while.

>>32345004
A big question is who knows about that pop and who is currently bound to it.
if its currently being used by mercery or alyss we can hardly take it from them without it being an act of war.

>>32345004
>POW

Wouldn't we need Undine for that? Unless we wanted to bond to Talon and thus pretty much scream what the hell we are up too.

>>32345004

Wait there's the option to?

Fuck son I thought you were just going to cocktease us with it during the whole visit. Oh no this is terrible.

>>32345040
Bigger question is this. Would she figure it out when we tried? Archmage seems like someone we would want to fuck with pattern wise. We don't want her figuring much of anything about ourselves out.

>>32345048
oh yea, i forgot about that. our only options for it is bind to talon or bind to undine. and we aren't bringing her

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>>32345048
>>32345056
Basically, there's the catch: you'd need to bring Undine with you to Ahm to claim the PoP. Mind you, it's not going to be as easy as just walking in and claiming it but it's completely feasible for you to claim it while you're there without dying horribly.

>>32345084
And it is highly likely we will be watched the entire time.

>>32345100
I wonder. Is it possible for Foxywaifu to teloport into the chambers? Once we find it anyway.

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>>32345134
That would depend on the situation and having her with you.

>>32345100
> bring Undine with you to Ahm

Maybe we could dress her up with a mustache and get her past Merk.

>>32345212
Hmm. Makes me curious if we could just clear the place then teloport Undine in later. When the archmage is somewhere in the front lines.

Though now I"m paranoid on the archmage. Mainly because I realize hiding too hard will reveal what we know. While telling too much is just as dangerous. That ability to draw conclusions make me nervous.

>>32345222
What style of mustache though?

>>32345516
Ever seen a Guy Fawkes mask? That should give you the idea.

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I'm here again if there's anybody who has questions etc.

>>32347792
When undine binds a pop, it severs the person currently using it from it?
Can we locate/track/scry/something the person currently bound to a pop when we reach it?

>>32347792
Right, questions:
1. How did Taour and Darlesia have so many Flying mage knights?
2. Does the Barrier have its holes poke up all along the barrier or just in the area the Archangel hangs out?
3. Who traditionally provides the troops to hold them back? Is it just the Mage Guard and Lords?
4. How long until the next expected incursion?
5. How fucked are we if the area of the next incursion is in the area controlled by the insane Lord of Ember? Could the entire Barrier fail if its not sealed in time?

>>32351361
I expect the Mage Guard can handle it comfortably, at least as long as they don't get bogged down in a war in Termina. So nice of them to offer to not interfere in exchange for other considerations.

>>32347792

So which one of our crazy ideas has been your favorite to incorporate into your world?

Also why didn't anyone else come up with the AAs? That seems like a logical progression with the advent of Mage-Knight plate. I'm kind of surprised no one else has picked up on it yet. Though that also makes sense given we're a very natural leaning nation, while say the Magi has their mages, though the RSK might benefit. Beats me.

Speaking of the RSK, could we have a horse race at the Tourney festival? The whole mounted combat thing was something we haven't touched on in awhile. Might be an interesting way to introduce the character if others are still interested in pursuing the route.

Alternatively a dog race, or hunt. There was a mild interest in Talon picking up dog/griffon breeding as a hobby, just a thought towards introducing the idea if interest remains.

Just throwing some stuff out there to address little random things I remember.

>>32352011
>So which one of our crazy ideas has been your favorite to incorporate into your world?
I wonder which one made him go "Oh shit, I can't believe that works."

>>32352011
>Also why didn't anyone else come up with the AAs? That seems like a logical progression with the advent of Mage-Knight plate. I'm kind of surprised no one else has picked up on it yet. Though that also makes sense given we're a very natural leaning nation, while say the Magi has their mages, though the RSK might benefit. Beats me.
To be fair, it took like 300 or so years to figure out that putting gunpower in a bag instead of using a ladle will let you shoot twice as fast. Also, until recently mage knight gear was the province of the wealthy, and bows are a peasant weapon.

>>32352356

Fair point. Suppose it seems right that commoner Talon would use them, and to great effect.

>>32352588
bump

>>32347792
Does the current reconstruction time include the idea that a few people had of encouraging mages to get earth elemental familiars?

>>32356026

Construction Mages guild/tower??? Could make Gnome the Arch-Elemental of it....... oh how the lesser earth elementals would fawn over her....

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>>32350534
>When undine binds a pop, it severs the person currently using it from it?
Yes.

>Can we locate/track/scry/something the person currently bound to a pop when we reach it?
Undine can commune with the PoP and determine who currently controls it (though the sense of 'who' and 'where' might be vague).

>>32351361
>1. How did Taour and Darlesia have so many Flying mage knights?
They bought them. FMK designs haven't changed too much in the last five years or so.

>2. Does the Barrier have its holes poke up all along the barrier or just in the area the Archangel hangs out?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by holes here.

>3. Who traditionally provides the troops to hold them back? Is it just the Mage Guard and Lords?
There's a levy on major nations (which the League and RSK haven't paid when it came due recently). You'll be hearing a little about this shortly in-quest.

>4. How long until the next expected incursion?
Nobody in your retinue really knows.

>5. How fucked are we if the area of the next incursion is in the area controlled by the insane Lord of Ember? Could the entire Barrier fail if its not sealed in time?
According to Gnome, it's not a huge problem of where. The barrier itself stretches along the northern side of the Magi Line mountains and is lined with fortresses at the passes. Presumably forces can still be supplied to those areas near Ember's territory (unless his knights have moved through the passes). As for how the barrier works, you don't know.

>>32352011
>Also why didn't anyone else come up with the AAs?
Because traditionally mages decide what is worthwhile enchanting and they consider their own magic to be better than bows (but many mages don't do CQC, so they like knights and their armour). Therefore they don't spend time enchanting bows (which is slow and tedious - Mal can do it quickly because he's Mal). Magitech factories are also recent and has focused on mass production of things that were previously enchanted.

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>>32352011
>Speaking of the RSK, could we have a horse race at the Tourney festival?
Literally the only people who would participate are a couple of Vitrian nobles and any RSK nobles who participated (which would require you to find and invite some).

>griffons
Still thinking on that.

>>32356026
Not currently. I'm still working on a way to incorporate that, especially as I want to see what happens in Ahm first.

>>32356948
How strong does Talon peg the Magister Generals compared to some of the shit he has fought recently?

Also if Sylph did bind to Mal would the drain be pretty large like Salamader? Or does the POW lower that pretty massively?

>>32356948

Well damn. What other events would be possible then?

>>32356948
Honestly I"m more curious about what else mages could summon. Elementals are nice but I wonder if there is anything else just as fun.

>>32356893
>Because traditionally mages decide what is worthwhile enchanting and they consider their own magic to be better than bows (but many mages don't do CQC, so they like knights and their armour). Therefore they don't spend time enchanting bows (which is slow and tedious - Mal can do it quickly because he's Mal). Magitech factories are also recent and has focused on mass production of things that were previously enchanted.

This pretty interestingly makes sense. There has been a lot of cases where things that seemed obviously useful in foresight was never done due to military tradition and the like. Then was only adapted when someone got their ass beat by it.

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Anyway, I'm off to work. I'll answer any more questions if the thread is still alive in about 9 hours.

>>32357387
There would normally be a number of events that allow people (both knights and mages) to show off their magical prowess. You could also use this as a way of attracting people who might help you with your target areas (at the risk of revealing to the world what those target areas are).

With the Tower of Kassick here (and Mal) you could have battles between summons and/or familiars for one.

I don't currently have a list of events but I'll have to build one and I'll take suggestions.

>>32357307
>How strong does Talon peg the Magister Generals compared to some of the shit he has fought recently?
While the Magister Generals are powerful warriors/mages they are mostly strategists and leaders. Talon's probably more than a match for any of them in close combat. Not that it's so simple - Magister Generals have their own little retinue so fighting one is like fighting a mid-level adventurer party (plus their army).

The exception is Falwick, who is a complete monster. He's fought Mercenie and lived to tell the tale. Supposedly he's encountered Lairos, the great wardragon, and lived. He's certainly a big, tough bastard.

>Also if Sylph did bind to Mal would the drain be pretty large like Salamader? Or does the POW lower that pretty massively?
The PoP would mean it would be no different than currently. Sylph would be the same level as Sala, too.

>>32357507
The vast majority of what can be summoned is a type of elemental - the lower level elementals are more varied than the higher level and even include some humanoid ones (that have weak powers).

Once you move away from elementals you start getting into more monstrosities - wraith-like creatures, golems etc.

>>32357635
How much of a monster is the grandmaster of the main knightly order in the RSK?

>>32357635
>The PoP would mean it would be no different than currently. Sylph would be the same level as Sala, too.

And now I laugh. Because I can only imagine how much Mals pride would go up if he had two pure elementals.

>>32357635
>>Also if Sylph did bind to Mal would the drain be pretty large like Salamader? Or does the POW lower that pretty massively?
>The PoP would mean it would be no different than currently. Sylph would be the same level as Sala, too.
What about when mal gets stronger? IIRC the familiars are all a lot weaker then they could be because talon and mal are not strong enough to provide them with enough juice to run at full throttle. Would having 2 familiars require twice as much growth from mal before they level?

>>32357635
>With the Tower of Kassick here (and Mal) you could have battles between summons and/or familiars for one.
sounds like a good idea.

Side note: how common is knowledge of Arcane Archers at this point? Has the RSK asked Neir to steal the designs yet?

>>32360285
Just as a guess I think it is pretty unlikely they know much of anything personally. Just because it's pretty hard to figure out that Arcane Archers are anything more then really good archers. People who see it in battle are more likely to give conflicting reports and all. Though if they heard about it from our Magitech staff then it makes sense.

>>32360280
>Not enough juice

I think it's more complex then that. Gnome technically is getting all her juice from the POW right now. So I don't think it would be only that.

Actually that brings up that interesting tidbit about how we could at level 3 remove the POW and have Gnome at level 1 and still bound to us and still grow. Which I have no idea how that works.

>>32361349
>I think it's more complex then that. Gnome technically is getting all her juice from the POW right now. So I don't think it would be only that.
1. why do you keep calling POP (place of power) a POW (prisoner of war)?
2. the power it provides falls off with distance, significantly so. She receives most her power from talon. Who himself is receiving power from several sources. including the source itself. (the distance of the two of them to the source also matters)

>>32357635
List of events:
1. Familiar tourney
2. Summon tourney
3. Archery Competition
4. Main tourney

Minor question, but how much would it cost to equip Lyann and Felix and other elites with enchanted armor similar in style to our own?

>>32361349
>Actually that brings up that interesting tidbit about how we could at level 3 remove the POW and have Gnome at level 1 and still bound to us and still grow. Which I have no idea how that works.
I don't think we can remove it. Talon isn't a mage and as such cannot normally have a familiar at all. He can only have a familiar because her pop is aligned with his source. If talon wanted sylph as a familiar for example, he would have to first acquire her source, then go to her pop.
But even if talon could reclaim the pop I would rather we do not do so until his power grows to the point where gnome is still at full power even after removing the pop

>>32361434
A lot/impossible. We are wearing the old armor of a grandmaster (before he was GM) of the greatest knights to ever exist that do not exist anymore.

>>32361557
Yes, and it is high quality enchanted armor meant for someone who can use personal magic to accomplish all of what traditional plate does. Such armor can be made, its just expensive because of the limited market.

>>32361428
>Prisoner of war.

Habit. I tend to go into a lot of military games. So when I hit PO after hitting my caps lock I tend to place W without thinking about it. It's kind of a reflex by this point.

> the power it provides falls off with distance

Really now? I don't remember this being mentioned. But then again I can barely remember 10 threads back at this point due to how heavy these threads can get. That would help explain why we could Drop the POP an still keep Gnome at a certain point.

>>32361434
>Familiar tourney

Not sure about this one. Wouldn't that just lead to Mal utterly dominating? Unless we joined the thing. But then that would be admitting that Gnome is our familiar. Though I guess that would be a fun thing for Mal so might as well.

>2. Summon tourney

I like. I like a lot.

>3. Archery Competition

Need to show off our archers anyway.

May want to go for a group melee while we are at it. Maybe after the main part of the Tourney.

>>32361488
Aspirational did mention this somewhere. If Remember right it went something like we could Remove a POP from Gnome once she hit a high level and it would just weaken her and Talon could take the rest. I don't' remember why though I think it was because Talons bond is cheating.

>>32361611
Admittedly I realized you had said in a style similar to ours not suits exactly like it. Still a lot though since our armor seems to be enchanted a completely different way then most are. Not opposed to it, just sayin it could be costly.

>>32361705
Yeah, its basically clothes for 7 foot people.

>>32361687
>Aspirational did mention this somewhere. If Remember right it went something like we could Remove a POP from Gnome once she hit a high level and it would just weaken her and Talon could take the rest. I don't' remember why though I think it was because Talons bond is cheating.
Ah ok. if he said we can then we can
However, I would still prefer not to in the forseeable future.

>>32361816
Yeah. But I don't remember where I heard it. I just remember reading it in a random question somewhere. So I might be misremembering. I am fairly sure I'm not though.

And yeah If I'm not I would only do it pretty far in the future. Mainly because a 2 level drop is a lot. So about the only time we would do it is when we are pretty sure we could rapidly rebuild it.

It will be temping though after we get all the POP just due to 3 being a good chunk of the area vs 2.

>>32361434
Another idea we could do is have Talon offer a reward for equaling his shots in the archery Competition.

Like he himself doesn't join but at the very start he mentions a massive reward for equaling the shots he makes here. Fires five bulls eyes then officially starts the archery contest.

>>32361906
its a 2 level drop for gnome for either a 1 level gain for undine. or extending the range of talon's dominion for 1 extra km around the source (currently at 0).
There are 7 pops total per source. and only 4 are needed to max out undine. So that means talon would be able to bind 2 for a 2km radius. that third one extending it to 3km is really not a big deal. To the point where I would only ever agree to do it if talon is so powerful that gnome drops 0 levels from removing that pop (aka, it is superfluous)

however, I did come up with another use for pops. Various powerful individuals like ren have bound a pop to themselves. We can't take their pop without making an enemy of them.

Now, there are extras thanks to there being 3 sources on this continent on this side of the wall of marie. But it can still become an issue.

>>32362453
>1 extra Km

Higher then that. one is the courtyard. Two is pretty much the castle and three is harrowmont all the way to the bluffs and all 7 is 4 times that.

>>32362453
>1 level gain for undine.

An interesting thing to note about that is Undine only has 4 levels vs their 5 and her strength isn't bound to ours. So each POP we give her is a massive increase in her power.

>>32361434
5. Blowing shit up with magic tourney.

>>32362599
I thought that was due to her getting 1 level from the source directly. 1+4 = 5

>>32362666
Same thing in principle. Each boost she gets is massively higher then what Gnome and them get. Just because it isn't bound to us.

That and

>Places of Power Claimed: 0 / 4

4 to max her out and she doesn't seem to have any levels listed at all. So each boost we get her is a higher boost then one with Gnome, Or Salamander. Just because it Only takes two to place her at Half her max.

>>32362843
>Same thing in principle

remember that familiar "levels" is actually mana access. at level 5/5 they are have access to sufficient mana to operate at 100% of their real power.
So at max pops undine has 100% of her real power, just like gnome does at max level. In either case the determinate of their strength at that point is their actual power and skill.
They should get the same boost from each pop since it gives them the same amount of mana to power their, well, powers.

>>32362995
Yep. Thing there is we could have 4/4 Undine thus maxing her out while only strong enough to have 3/5 Gnome.

In other words Undines growth rates are higher per level just because she lacks a soft cap like Gnome does.

>>32363061
Though just to say I don't mean Level 5 Gnome would be weaker. Just that Undine gains more per level due to the speed she can level up in comparison. Pretty much she has higher growth even though Undine is weaker.

>>32363061
Oh I get what you are saying now.

You aren't saying that undine gains more per pop, but that pops are more useful for her in general because we can bind more pops to her

Yea, we can probably spend a month or two traveling around pops maxing out undine, while it would probably take years for talon to become strong enough to run gnome at 100% of her power

The downside of binding pops we haven't conquered to undine is that the locals can sever her from them, and it is near guarenteed that their current owner will do so quickly if we don't kill them first (or otherwise ensure they don't reclaim it). The upside is that it would be easier to conquer pops with an overpowered undine.

>>32363261
Yeah pretty much. Though it also depends a lot on who bound it. A random Magister is a lot easier to deal with then the Archmage.

>>32363261
>You aren't saying that undine gains more per pop,

More like her PoP is her levels. Which makes her really useful due to not being soft capped to us. Is how I meant that.

>>32363261
>The upside is that it would be easier to conquer pops with an overpowered undine.
by that I mean conquer the territories containing the pop. that is, sneak in, bind pop, then sneak out and meet up with army to come back in and conquer the territory

Though just for laughs am I the only who laughs at how Aspirational explained the meeting with Tylarne would go? Mutual surprise. I keep seeing This big ass dragon being like "what?" With trees blowing down each time he talks. Then Lynn in the back ground saying "Daddy!" Causing Talon to just say "what?" Leading to bunch of reveals with each other causing every other sentence to start with "what?"

Not sure why I find this picture so amusing but I do for some reason. Even though I know the real thing is probably going to be dramatic as all hell.

>>32363415
That's actually what I typically plan on doing. Though a big problem there is most of the areas with them are far away from us.

>>32363593
well, if we take out whomever currently own the pop, there will be a significant delay until someone else of suitable power will come to claim them. unless they are nationalized. The trek into them is difficult enough that they might not be. After all, the examples of pop owners we know of are:
1. mercenie the transmuter elf, familiar of alyss (at least I think she has a pop)
2. ren, one of the 5 chiefs of the foxes
3. pure elementals (at full power within the pop)
4. that super strong revenant
5. A crippled fel-dragon (killed by talon for that last pop).

there are at least 21 pops on this continent (we know of 3 sources and each has 7 pops)

Also, one of our pops is in the territory of the archangels.

So if we kill the current holder of each pop when binding it there will probably be a few years before someone else threatens to take it. So we could go around, bind 4 pops to undine, then start a long drawn out multi year campaign to conquer the territories containing them

So, "common knowledge" was that the angels sealed the sources.
We found out from undine that this is false. they just killed their owners and left them unsealed.

I am worrying that if it becomes common knowledge that talon has a source that others will seek out the other sources (whose locations are not exactly secret).

This means competition. I am somewhat tempted to rush the other sources rather than just the other pops

>>32363548
>Not sure why I find this picture so amusing but I do for some reason. Even though I know the real thing is probably going to be dramatic as all hell.
I expect him grumbling about dragon kind, us casually mentioning the harem thing and Mal collapsing into hysterics.

>>32363750
Thing there is that isn't who owns the POP that is who is bound to it. I mean that was Undines POP yet it was still bound to the felldragon. So I don't think each one has a POP bound.

Though if mercenie does have one it most likely isn't one in our source.

>>32363803
>whose locations are not exactly secret

It was over 150 years ago. So I imagine not everyone remembers. That and ours may be the only one active.

>>32364071
>That and ours may be the only one active.
The thing is, the common consensus is that they are sealed by an impenetrable ward made by the angels against activation. And we know this to be false.

>that was Undines POP yet it was still bound to the felldragon.
Because undine is dead. it WAS her pop when she was alive. It isn't anymore, now she is bound to the source instead.

>>32364071
>Though if mercenie does have one it most likely isn't one in our source.
why not? a mage of sufficient skill can bind a pop without binding its source. And one of our source's pops is in her home city.

Actually, with the pop being in the capital of magic, I doubt it is unclaimed.

>>32364234
The amusing part is that means within that small time frame she died a fucking felldragon moved in.

>The thing is, the common consensus is that they are sealed by an impenetrable ward made by the angels against activation. And we know this to be false.

For one anyway. We know the archangels killed one of them. Why they didn't work for so long is unknown.

>>32364266
A mage can use it to bind a Familiar to themselves. It's not like the mage binds the thing to him.

>>32364436
>A mage can use it to bind a Familiar to themselves.
actually, I asked and aspir clarified.

A mage can bind a pop to themselves
A mage can also bind a familiar to themselves.
Those are two seperate tasks. The pop is bound directly to the mage, not the familiar, feeding 100% of its power to the mage, who can then in turn feed the power to the familiar.

Our bond with gnome is an exceptional workaround made for non mages.

Mal could bind both the pop AND sylph. in two separate rituals, performed one after another at the same location. Some mages might only have the know how to do one or the other, or neither.

>>32364552
Would this work for Sarah as well?

>>32364738
maybe.
he said any magistrate+
IIRC sarah is only a journeyman at the moment.
very impressive for her age, but unlikely to be enough

>>32364552
Now that is interesting.

>>32364738
I would guess not. She can barely get Sylph though summoning on a Nat 20 and she would be pretty weak. Can't see her being skilled enough to pull that off.

>>32364807
>very impressive for her age, but unlikely to be enough
Point. Mind you, I'm kinda concearned that there really seems to be no way for her to play catch up, or even stay relevant.

>>32364953
She really isn't built for combat. She is more the chick we call up for taxes and politics. She really isn't supposed to be around places where combat can happen.

>>32364953
not in combat, no (unless we have a long timeskip). but she is invaluable in politics and empire management.

Rolled 16

>>32364998

Though of course the dice gods hate us. So it may be a good thing best waifu is staying home.

>>32364998
well, if she fought a lot she would level up combat faster. Since with combat actual life or death situations lead to best growth.
problem is that they also lead to death.

Rolled 5

>>32365106
>Level up faster

Unlikely. Just because it seems to take decades to go up ranks. Mal levels up really fast due to being a genius mage. She probably wouldn't have nearly the growth rates he does. Although thinking on it giving Mal Sylph screams we are using a POP somewhere. Since there is no way in hell he would have two like that normally.

>>32365181
Even if it does, but its not that big a deal if people know he is using a pop. A lot of people do.
Binding a pop doesn't require any interaction with its source

>>32365181
Now I wish we could grab Sylph before heading to Ahm. The mental image of Mal showing off having 2 pure elementals is hilarious.

>>32365106

I prefer keeping Sarah within the political side of things personally. Using her Nier and Marcus all within that capacity help the overall tone of that part of the thread and it keeps it really separate from the heavy martial feel otherwise. I don't think everyone needs to be involved in combat.

>>32365248
Yeah but it also says you have one. Which means people know to look for one to weaken Sylph. That and there is only like 21 so just having one is a pretty big deal. We can pretty easily get away with Gnome because most people think we use sorcery.

>>32365277
Fair point. We really need her administrative talents. And it would be good if the continue growing

>>32365313
technically a child can have them as familiars, its just that their level will be close to 0. Its only by correlating the reports of their performance in battles/spies/bragging that something can be figured out

>>32365439
Yeah. I just imagine most people would assume Talon did something with sorcery or that he bound Gnomes POP. The thing I'm paranoid about is someone realizing the trick you can do then unbinding the POP we use for Gnome while we are like on a diplomatic mission.

>>32365601
if that happens than we have a week to reclaim it before the bond destabilizes, which isn't a problem with tsucchi allowing us teleports at the moment. absolute worse case scenario is that we fail to reach it in time and re-summon her
While dismissing a familiar is a grave insult, having the bond severed by an enemy attack isn't.
And when talon becomes strong enough, it won't even risk the bond, only weaken gnome until he rebinds the pop

Holy crap, I just realized we can have all the pops bound REAL quick with tsucchi's teleports!

>>32365712
>Real quick

She can teloport like one person a day about 2 provinces.

>>32366035
quicker than walking...
I wasn't aware about the 2 provinces limit

>>32366079
>Oh, and a quick note on Tsucchi's teleportation:

>She can teleport with up to one other person once per day for a distance of up to three provinces (e.g. you could teleport to Raupe from Darlesia but not to Illin).

>>32366205
well, thanks for clarifying. i guess we CAN'T just use it to break the world... oh well.

>>32366280
Though here is something interesting for you. Look at the map. Find Carrlouf now count 3 hexes to the left. What hex is that on?

Ahm

>>32366330
interesting. we could attempt an assassination but I doubt the magi league has no protections from that...

Or, we could go visit without undine, then have her teleport in later to a hideout we secure, use it to raid the pop, then teleport her out. Thus keeping her a secret while still nabbing that pop.

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So I'm back a little earlier than expected.

I'll go through the posts above this and answer any questions/confusion shortly.

>>32366448
Was an idea I had. Problem is I get the feeling the archmage being as good as she is may notice a teloport like that.

>>32366550
>questions/confusion

oh boy we will be here all night long.

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>>32357733
I haven't designed them but the grandmasters (and masters) of some of the knightly orders are going to be tough as nails. Heck, some of the orders will be pretty tough as well in general.

>>32360280
Nah, the PoP obviates that issue. Mal would level at the same rate as normal but would have two familiars.

>>32360285
Neir hasn't sold you out. There's some interest among the Seraphi nobles in the talent your forces show in archery.

>>32361349
>>32361488
>>32361906
>Gnome without a PoP
I've been a little unclear about this, especially because it was answered in passing.

You've basically bound Gnome using the PoP (and your connection to it via the Source) as an intermediary. Your astral power is converted to sorcerous energy efficiently by the PoP. If you lose the PoP then you still need to supply the same amount of power but much less efficiently (so Gnome drops two levels or unsummons after a week or three). If you're strong enough to maintain her then you can still maintain your connection to her through the Source but without the PoP (like you did when you first summoned her).

And yes, a time may come when you're strong enough to maintain her at full strength without the PoP (but it's a long, long way off).

>>32361434
>Minor question, but how much would it cost to equip Lyann and Felix and other elites with enchanted armor similar in style to our own?

Expensive (probably close to 10TBY per suit, if not more), as it would need to be custom-made to a specialised design and it would also take a while. You would also need somebody to make it and that might fall afoul of import/export restrictions if you do so outside your own nation. The same goes for magical weapons (which you don't currenlty have).

>>32363548
I'm actually still trying to work on the scale of my dragons. The feldragons and helldragons are ridiculously large compared to the regular dragons (mostly due to age). I don't think I gave more than a vague sense of scale of the dying feldragon

>>32366995
Going to have to ask for the laughs. How much pride would Mal be feeling if he had two pure elemental familiars? And if he did how many heads would that turn?

>>32366995
>>Minor question, but how much would it cost to equip Lyann and Felix and other elites with enchanted armor similar in style to our own?
>Expensive (probably close to 10TBY per suit, if not more), as it would need to be custom-made to a specialised design and it would also take a while. You would also need somebody to make it and that might fall afoul of import/export restrictions if you do so outside your own nation. The same goes for magical weapons (which you don't currenlty have).
Huh, I thought this was some sort of lost ancient knowledge or some such...
Considering how much of our nation's strength they represent. Such armor and equipment might be a worthwhile investment.
Looking at the numbers... 10 TBY is the same as 200 MMK armor. Definitely expensive.

>>32366995

I guess I still don't have an accurate grasp of the knightly orders.

Can we raise the knight orders in Vitria as part of our standing army for campaigns? Could they refuse?

And are most knights the equivalents of MMKs or HMKs or somewhere in between in terms of durability and power?

>>32367133
Yeah. Personally I think it is worth it once we get bigger. Nothing says ass kicking like spending 20+ TBY each for your elite bodyguards.

>>32367133
I wonder if we might raid some known unexplored dungeons for loot too. Aren't there some ancient demon ruins that have not been investigated? Or the dwarven fortresses in the mountains nearby...

Oh, there is still that vampiress' mannor. Have we mentioned her to tsucchi yet?

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>>32364234
>Because undine is dead. it WAS her pop when she was alive. It isn't anymore, now she is bound to the source instead.
Attuning to a PoP (what Champions do passively) is completely different to binding a PoP (which is claiming a part of the power channelled through it for yourself). Binding a PoP has no effect on the Champion attuned to it and a Champion attuning to it has no effect on the perosn who bound the PoP. The reason powerful beings bind to PoPs isn't completely clear, though it's likely tied to the way the Source works with Champions.

Basically, Undine was still attuned to that PoP (as no new pure elemental had been created there and no other being had attuned to it) even when the feldragon had bound it to himself.

>>32366205
And another note on that: as the astute might have noticed, Tsucchi can still teleport herself at least once after teleporting the extra person. She just can't take anybody else along for the ride.

>>32367095
Mal's as much an egotist as Talon is - it's probably part of the reason they get along so well. So his head would get pretty big - even more so if Sylph recognised him as her master more than Sala does (who seems pretty happy to think that she has two masters, one of whom is superior to the other).

It would also attract a fair bit of attention, though the fact they were being maintained below maximum power would dilute that interest a little.

>>32367133
The Golden Bears you've fought before use custom-made armour created by enchanters rather than magitech factories. The difference is that theirs does more standard things (strength boost the wearer) rather than the more esoteric functions of Arquin's old suit (the magic protection is a big deal, too).

>>32367138
I'm still working on the way to incorporate mage towers and knightly orders you rule but that aren't part of your military. Most nations tend to have separate towers and orders for military and general life but in dire times there's no real difference.