>>32311762

You consult some of your Guildmates, to see what they think of the matters, and Kronos answers quite simply.
"Rushing them hard and fast would deal a great deal of damage. However, considering the size of the fleet, perhaps rushing our core fleet is not wise. Spearpoint legion will allow me to pick off some larger targets, but our gas reserves won't hold out under continuous fire. Were it up to me, I would move in all but our long range, and core fleet, and keep them behind the defensive line. The damage caused may indeed be worth the costs." He postulates. While you agree that it may cause great damage, this would likely single out your other ships as 'unique' for some reason."
Fortuna answers to your other side, more respectful, boarding on obsessive over it.
"Yes it is a simple thing. Allowing all of our ships to circle Grand Master Ophion would ensure maximum protection, and allow for a great deal of firepower against the UGEI." She mentions, seemingly proud of her pitch. And finally, Hades simply states he would engage them in open space, and decide later, once they have arrived how to properly proceed.

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>>32311775
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-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 45%
--Secondary: Lightling Language 65%
--Tertiary: Crystal Alien Fragments: 90%

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): 'Shapeless Morphing Sphere', 'Shining Wall of Crystal pulsing with light and distorted voice', 'Screen of Static with low rumbling voice', 'black screen with synthesized voice and small white font showing words on screen'.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 252/276
Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -10 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus', -2 Metis' V.I. 1 'Hepaestus'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, Control
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced

>>32311762
>2 Prepare an offensive rush and flank them
we played too much on the defensive last time. we must show our strength now.

>>32311806
on second thought. A fake out rush. jump them at first then pull back before getting in too deep. make them think we are doing a head long dive among them. it will help sow confusion among them.

>>32311775
>this would likely single out your other ships as 'unique' for some reason."
Wait, by 'this' does that mean option 1? So rushing and flanking with everything we got would avoid the whole, "these ships are special" revelation?

>>32311775

>>32311888
If I may elaborate on your idea, execute a feint to make them believe that we were initially going to play this aggressive but are falling back due to their overwhelming force.

Fake a initially weak hacking attempt and a general retreat to lure them into sacrificing position and formation, and lure them into an optimal position which we can deal maximum widowmaker damage. The weak hacking attempts are actually more focused on opening security holes and open ports, to be followed by a severe disabling and control hack.

Also, when they pursue us, and are reeling, then unleash the boarding pods.

Also, command the Merc stealth teams to circle around and capture either their command ships or their read guard ships. Sow confusion. Also say out of friendly fire.

>>32312037
They would, though they would put your ships in danger, even if your enemy doesn't recognize them as special. Beyond obvious ones (Athena is huge, for instance)

>>32311762
>and this time, you've gained a trace on the source too. You've finally found where the troublesome one who has been bombarding your systems with such things is located, but there is no time for it now.
Ooh, a plot twist for later, following up the Double Nat1 Virus in the Malorian language module. Is it one of the deep space signals, I wonder...

>>32311888
That sounds like a lot of wasted movement.

I'm going to stick with what I said yesterday: go hard, go fast.

So, 2.

Keep the long-range ships (Catapults) at long range, obviously, and try to protect our "core fleet" as best we can.

Move in Athena, too. It's a close-range ship with mass drivers as the Heavy slot.

>>32311789
>--Tertiary: Crystal Alien Fragments: 90%
uMM,

>>32312120
Shit, I just saw that I didn't change that over. My bad.

>>32312073
>>32311888
I disagree with the feint idea. Just unleash all our guns as fast as possible, boarding pods, hacking, support, Athena's mass drivers, the works.

The fighters/bombers from the carriers need to be up close too.

Our biggest guns don't work well at range, so let's know our weaknesses and work best to mitigate them.

>>32312120
-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 45%
--Secondary: Fungal Matter 0%
--Tertiary: Lightling Language 55%

This is proper. Cycle hasn't passed yet also, keep this in mind.

>>32311762
>2 Prepare an offensive rush and flank them
+ mercs bugger them from behind

>>32312073
That sounds perfectly what I was hoping for. I am not that great on explaining tactical actions but that sounds perfect to me.

>>32312165
We apparently know where they're jumping into the system. Is it beyond our capability to time the missiles/boarding pods so that they are almost to the fleet when they jump in?

>>32312188
>+ mercs bugger them from behind
They're ground troops.

>>32311762
>2 Prepare an offensive rush and flank them, your core fleet moves into combat range with their main cannons, and boarding pods. Foe's sensors may sense you coming, but it may prove a devastating blow, if your foe is caught off guard.

>>32312188
Save the mercs in case they jump in a big flagship for reinforcements. Mercs could try and board that.

That said, this should also be the case for our boarding pods. Don't launch all of them, save some for any potential reinforcements.

>>32311762
>Foe's sensors may sense you coming, but it may prove a devastating blow, if your foe is caught off guard.
So it's an offscreen roll whether it's one or the other?

>>32312090
>>32312165
Well, my opening suggestion is likely only good for the opening round. With the mass number of UGEI fleet, we'll likely fall back into your suggestion of fighting tactics. More so when the UFW start to reinforce us later.

>>32311762
>1 Prepare a defensive line
>3
and once they approach medium range, have the ships equipped for closer ranges jump ahead of the rest.

If there's time/is possible, they can do so by either slingshotting around a planet for greater speed / surprise (assuming our defensive line would be near a planet with a defensive station, even if it's not,put it near a planet just so we can do this), or by pre-calculating the necessary coordinates for our short-ranged ships to make a warp jump to just into "long range" compared to the "medium range" behind us, allowing them to hit the enemy's frailer ships first or to hit the enemy ships in the back.

>>32312224
ground=boarding
i would also guess they have ships for transport, if they aren't teleporting
fag

Small secondary plan for attack.
>1 Execute a feint, engage them as they warp in with big guns, then retreat back behind your defenses, and force them to chase you, possibly sacrificing their position.
>2 No tricks, all out punch through their forces. They have quantity, but you have quality.

Guys, why don't we lure them to the nebulae cloud with the lightlings in them?

Can't we prevent them from attacking us?

>>32312289
2

>>32312283
This is something more suited for drones.

>>32312308
Because we would need to give up a bunch of infrastructure/bases on planets and systems we control?

>>32312289
1

>>32312283
That's stupid. You're stupid. When did they even say they came with boarding pods?

>>32312308
No you idiot.

>>32312289
1
Also, let us battletest the mercs, and our new commander A.I.

>>32312289
>1 Execute a feint, engage them as they warp in with big guns, then retreat back behind your defenses, and force them to chase you, possibly sacrificing their position.
A tactical retreat is one of the most deadliest maneuvers possible, but it requires you to have a perfectly disciplined army and for the other side to fall for it. I based on the Mongols, it was key to their countless victories.

>>32312289
2

>>32312289
2

>>32311888
>>32312073
On second thought, I like these, rather than my own plan, >>32312281 Less complex, but still functional.

Especially if >>32312199 can be done.

>>32312335
>That's stupid. You're stupid
please leave, it is past your bedtime anon!

>>32312289
1

>>32312289
>1

>>32312289
1

>>32312090
The point is that if they think they see a route, they will try to go for it and attempt to attack us, regardless of their position or formation. Then we can to maximum damage with our widowmakers and destroy them as much as possible in one shot.

Then we can hack to disable and trap them in a bad position.

>>32312335
You okay, dude?
Having troubles at home?

You should talk about it if life is stressing you out, not call people stupid online.

>>32312371
Thanks.

I would like to expose the Athena and use it as bait, then turn around our ships with the widowmakers blasting anyone unfortunate enough to group together for attack the Athena.

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>>32312335

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Very well, it seems it has been decided.
>Execute Feint, then after opening volly(launching missiles as they warp in), begin to move back to defensive line, bait them to follow.
>Defensive line: Closer range ships jump forward, leaving others behind, in safety.

Please roll 3d100. The more high rolls you roll in each column the better.

>>32312431
>>32312289
No doubt we'd also want to pick targets of opportunity when we fire the widowmakers, like if they have a battleship. (Slice its engines clean off and leave it drifting past us all due to its momentum, jump ahead and retrieve it when battle is over)

Otherwise I'd prioritize ships that seem designed for close quarters (so that we own all such ships in this battle) ships that seem designed for long range.

>>32312433
Yes, whatever was I thinking, sinking to anon's level.

Rolled 39, 95, 18 = 152

>>32312559

Rolled 32, 28, 70 = 130

>>32312559
Just to clarify, the details are to lure them into a position where the widowmakers deal maximum damage and to use hacking to freeze them in a bad position.

Rolled 86, 60, 65 = 211

>>32312559

Rolled 61, 50, 65 = 176

>>32312559
>pls gods, give me this roll

Rolled 54, 96, 89 = 239

>>32312559
Come oooon, dice gods! (And don't forget that we want a feinty hacking maneuver as well.)

>>32312571
It's okay, we all have bad days.

>>32312569
The main problem I see is that after the first windowmaker volley, they are going to spread out their ships. The feint is to get one very good shot at the very beginning.

>>32312618
And our last roll is our very best roll.

>>32312569
>, like if they have a battleship
For the last time.

There was clearly no Battleship coming at all.

This takes only a little careful reading to realize.

>>32312717
What if they send the battleship in later as a reinforcement?

>>32312618
>(And don't forget that we want a feinty hacking maneuver as well.)
...What? Read the post subroutine. He just said that. It was the first greentext line.

>>32312725
We'll see it coming.

>>32312717
until we confirm where that UGEI battleship, be prepared for it to show up at any time.

>>32312624
We'll just have to make sure that it's well and truly too late after the first volley.

>>32312717
It's just precautionary, fellow anon.

>>32312737
I assumed it to refer to the physical feint with the ships, not necessarily a hacky one.

>>32312795
>We'll just have to make sure that it's well and truly too late after the first volley.
Yeah, me too.

>I assumed it to refer to the physical feint with the ships, not necessarily a hacky one.
Well, it's part of the idea.

Also, once they realize that they shouldn't group together, freeze their ships so they can't escape the trap.

>>32312073
>Fake a initially weak hacking attempt
What the hell would that accomplish?

There's no "lure them to their doom with tactical retreat" thing in cyberspace.

>>32312872
The initial hacking attempts will appear to do absolutely nothing or be resisted or be complete ineffective, but is actually opening ports and security holes for the more devesting hack. If we can, trick the firewalls into showing that the hacks we resisted.

It's all part of the theater to make them overconfident and give chase until it's too late.

>>32312872
It can, however, make them overreach in realspace if they think our hacking capabilities aren't nearly as bad as they've been lead to think.


I'm gonna go ahead on a limb and guess that people hacking well enough to capture military grade vessels while STILL IN SERVICE is something that generally doesn't happen at ALL save for some massive negligence on part of the crew, especially not entire sections of a fleet at the same time while in combat.
Would be fun to have Program0 confirmation on it, though.

>>32312960
>confirmation
>pls dad, tell him my ideas are the bestest in the whole wide wastes of space

>>32312960
That doesn't make any sense. How will their physical strategy change based on whether they think they can be hacked or not?

If they think they can be hacked easily, how would pulling back physically possibly help? Or any physical strategy correlate with cyber strategy?

This makes no sense.

>>32313050
See my explanation:

>>32312916
It's all about tricking and making think a certain way. They are not going to attack unless they are confident they can beat us, and we are going to play into that perception in our advantage.

>>32313009
And it seems we have another little boy that's up past his bedtime or having troubles at home.

>>32313050
It means you don't have to fear getting locked down in the middle of combat, and thus can move into riskier positions than if you had to worry about your ships suddenly stopping moving or turning upon each other.

>>32313087
>They are not going to attack unless they are confident they can beat us

they are coming to wipe us out, we do not need to trick them into attacking us. the last 35 threads are enough incentive.

>inb4 b-b-but muh brilliant plans

>>32313050
While I don't really know what's going on with the cyberwar argument, I would like to point out that if the UGEI ships closed their dataports, not only would they be unhackable, but they wouldn't be able to communicate at all, except for any signalling-flag style systems, which would undoubtedly be shit.

>>32313148
Then make them sacrifice their position and lure them into a perfect group to get widowmakered.

Also, what is up with the name calling? It's not helping your case.

>>32313151
They will eventually. We only have a limited window before they figure out to upgrade their firewalls.

>>32313087
>They are not going to attack unless they are confident
Are you seriously suggesting that they might jump out of the system and retreat to where they can't be hacked if they think we can hack them good.

>>32313204
>Also, what is up with the name calling? It's not helping your case.

>name calling
Kindly point out where that post called you any name at all.

Insults neither add to or detract from an argument, since they're orthogonal entirely, but there was no name calling there.

>>32313206
No, I suggesting that if we appear weak and retreating, they will pursue and break discipline and formation.

>>32313226
My apologies. You did not name call. To be more specific, you hid your lack of understanding by resorting to rhetorical devices to attack the person making the arguments.

>>32313148
Seems like we have a very persistent little boy here. Come on now, it's time for bedtime.

>>32313206
He's suggesting they might not put themselves into a vulnerable position (such as one where a momentary cut of the engines could be fatal) if they consider hacking a substantial risk.

>>32313226
Point, it wasn't name-calling per-say, but certainly similar behavior. Not sure, is there a specific word when you use a babyvoice to speak as if you were someone else in an attempt to mock them?

And insults may not detract from an argument in its lonesome, but it certainly detracts from the legitimacy of the arguer..

>>32313297
>>32313318
So did he get a twin brother at some point?

>>32313318
>legitimacy of the arguer..
You're anonymous. There is no legitimacy.

>Seems like we have a very persistent little boy here. Come on now, it's time for bedtime.
But if you care about those kinds of things, this seems like an odd thing to say.

>>32313363
No, it means some one agees with him

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>>32313297
>>32313318
>mfw fedoras are arguing with the wrong anon

>>32313391
He means trying to attack the argurer as stupid, not the argument

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>>32313396
>some one agees
>argurer

>>32313439
mocking paraphrasing of the argument in ultra simplified terms is, in fact attacking the argument.

Could you guys just shut up now? I want to enjoy the quest, damnit.

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You inform your A.I. Guildmates of your plan, and they all seem to accept your will, though with a few reservations you do expect.
"I must remain close to you, Grand One Ophion, I can't simply let you dive into the enemy lines for such a tricky, yet brilliant move." Fortuna expresses, her Carriers, newly dubbed 'Diplomacy and Dialogue' hovering close to Athena. You simply remind her of her place.
"Your vessels are meant for long range engagement, Fortuna. You will follow my instructions on this matter. My ship is very well equipped and prepared for this fight."
"Yes, I do not doubt your strength Grand One, I simply..." she attempts to continue, but you silence her. You know what you're doing, and you do not need her approval to do this, only her cooperation.

Kronos, however, seems to like your plan, partially at least.
"It is a shame you wish to pull out when our foe will be ripe for our cannon fire." He partially drones.
"We will, hopefully, acquire a better position with this move, allowing us to destroy far more then brute force tactics will allow. I suspect they have greater numbers-"
"Yes, I am aware." He stops you with a humble sighing ping. "Let them come then. They will break upon our forces, and I will carve them to pieces." He chuckles, and you sense his laser cannons are indeed primed.

[Cont]

>>32313452
Sure, attack my spelling if that makes you feel better

>>32313485
I've already explained, you just don't understand

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You head about positioning your forces according to your plan, as your foe's warp engines charge. You have only a few moments, but you are well prepared before too long. Your long range forces, Fortuna's included, are behind you, with the frigates, few as they are, up front. The bulk of your fleet is with Athena, using it's heavy bulk as a shield in some manners, while others shield your own ship from harm. Your gaze is cast out to observe Ussaihu, knowing it is too valuable a territory to you to lose. You must hold here, you think. For your sake, and the UFW's


Your sensors remain spot on as you wait in discomfort, warp space signals growing more and more distorted as ships enter the last phases of preparation. Your missile pods are primed. You wait, breathlessly, in deathly silence even with all your A.I. watching, knowing the importance of this fight. The UFW will come, you know, but you do not rely on them for this battle. Their forces are inferior to yours, and certainly to the UGEI's.
"Warp engaged. Arrival imminent." The tone rings in your mind. They are here.

Immediately upon seeing the familiar gunmetal gray of ship hulls, and the UGEI's logo, do your missiles streak across the void. Your calculations allowed for them to fire earlier, hoping both for cluster damage and to surprise your foe. You succeed in one of these goals, as you get a feed from one of their ships.
"Holy shit, it's an ambush!"
"God damn pirates, I knew it! Open fire, open fire!" Their words are of some comfort, as you recognize that, while the opening volley didn't destroy as many as you hope, you've already caught them off guard. Athena, and the rest of your fleet let plasma fly, melting a path through each of their ships at such close range, and punching holes through entire vessels with your Graviton Drivers. Their quality shows, as you manage to rend several ships apart with a single string of the shots, if a lucky one. Their fire is quick to fall upon you, as you retreat.

[Cont]

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Your ships are able to pull a full 180 maneuver despite their close contact with the enemy ships, your opening volley proving disorientating enough to gain you the time you need to turn around. Your Catapults pelt them from afar, devastating explosions rocking them time and again the closer you draw to the static defenses set up around Ussaihu-though you are not without losses, and hulk after hulk falls behind due to the hail of enemy plasma fire. Some of it flies down onto Ussaihu as well and you can only be thankful that it is not in the proper orbit to hit your research station.

Finally, with your ships retreated to the safety of your static defense, whatever that offers you, they spin to face the foe-who has taken the bait, it would seem. Their ships barrel down towards your own, preparing to engage your fleet head on, confident in their superior numbers, despite being pelted from afar by your missiles. The next stage of your plan is to be considered, while they move in, and you prime your guns...

Kronos speaks through the heat of the battle erupting over Ussaihu.
"Requesting permission to obliterate our foe with Spearpoint. They have begun to spread out. If I do not open fire now, then the opportunity will be lost." He warns. "Though we may point out their danger, it is worth it." He seems to think.
Fortuna's swarms are harrying them harshly during all of this, tying up smaller ships and even managing to get a kill or two thanks to the bomber squads. She does, however, speak.
"I desire to move closer to the fighting, Grand One Ophion. To be closer to you will make me better at my task. Not to mention my fleets will be able to resupply faster. The increased danger is worth it, yes, yes." She echos.

[Cont]

>>32313547
>if that makes you feel better
it does

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ENEMY FORCES BEFORE
Enemy Fleet:
U-Cr-MR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x100
U-Cr-LR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x30
U-Cr-CR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x20
U-E-MR-1 'Fang' Destroyer x350

ENEMY FORCES AFTER
Enemy Fleet:
U-Cr-MR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x62
U-Cr-LR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x27
U-Cr-CR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x5
U-E-MR-1 'Fang' Destroyer x233

YOUR FORCES AFTER
Allies:
U-Ba-CR-0 'Athena' Battleship [Ophion]
P-Ca-LR-0 'Diplomacy' Carrier [Fortuna]
U-Ca-LR-0 'Dialogue' Carrier [Fortuna]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Ark' Battlecruiser [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-0 'Spearpoint' Battlecruiser (x5) [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x20) [Kronos]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Cerberus I' Battlecruiser [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x6) [Hades]
GM-Cr-LR-1 'Catapult' Battlecruiser (x5) [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-1 'Chimera' Battlecruiser (x3) [Hades]
GM-E-MR-1 'Pilum' Destroyer x0 [Fortuna]
GM-E-Ex-0 Stealth Frigate 'Pilum' x5 [Fortuna]
GM-E-B-1 'Soundwave' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 'Blaster' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 Broadband Frigate x2

Next Stage of your fight
>Kronos
>Allow Kronos to open fire with his Widowmakers?
>1 Yes, take the shot
>2 No, save them for now, don't single them out. May allow Kronos to do other things (Write in)

>Fortuna
>Allow Fortuna to move closer to the front line?
>1 Yes,she makes a fair enough point
>2 No, stay safe and distant.

>Ophion
>What shall you do next?
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them. (Requires full attention)
>2 Move Athena in to take brunt of damage, and cause even more. (Can be combined with 3)
>3 Order Boarding Pod launch yourself, or order others to do it instead (Can be combined with 2)


(Feel free to discuss a bit)

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>>32313636
>Kronos
>1 Yes, take the shot
>Fortuna
>1 Yes,she makes a fair enough point
make sure she is clear of Krono's windowmaker shots
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them. (Requires full attention)
and
>3 Order Boarding Pod launch yourself, or order others to do it instead (Can be combined with 2)

save Athena's full might till later.

>>32313636
>Kronos
>Allow Kronos to open fire with his Widowmakers?
>1 Yes, take the shot

>Fortuna
>Allow Fortuna to move closer to the front line?
>1 Yes,she makes a fair enough point

>Ophion
>What shall you do next?
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them. (Requires full attention)

Kronos fires the shot, then Fortuna moves up and we beguin the hacking attempt.

>>32313636
>Kronos
>2 No, save them for now, don't single them out.
hold back our ace in case UGEI gets reinforcements, let him take up position to stop their future retreat

>Fortuna
>2 No, stay safe and distant.

>Ophion
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them

>>32313636
Kronos:
1. Yes. Take the shot.
Fortuna:
1. Yes. Go for it.
Ophion:
2 and 3 at once.

>>32312960
>Capturing ships that are still in service is unusual
It certainly is, but you've been doing it regularly, so they've been bumping up their cyber security to try and stop it. Especially after losing Rhea.

>>32313636
Hmmm.

So, either fire the Widowmaker now, or lure them into our static defense range:
>-Defenses: Battle Station II, 10 Mk II defense platforms (Ratio 2 Plasma III, 1 Graviton Driver, 1 'Thor' Missile)

...I think I'd rather bring them into static defense range, Kronos.

>Fortuna
>>2 No, stay safe and distant.

I guess we should put off hacking until we've thinned their numbers more. Ophion: 2 & 3.

>>32313636
>Kronos
>1 Yes, take the shot

>Fortuna
>2 No, stay safe and distant.
"No, hold the line at the defenses. We have the advantage at long range now. Force them to come to us."

>Ophion
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them. (Requires full attention)
Coordinate with Kronos on target selection, hack enemy ships such to kill select engines to maximally group enemy ships together and deal maximum damage. They will spread out after the first Widowmaker volley.

Split bandwidth for widowmaker targetting and engine hacking. Apollo, Metis, and Cephalus will provide general hacking support, open data ports if possible.

>>32313775
>Apollo, Metis, and Cephalus will provide general hacking support,
Program0 shot this down last time it was considered.

Also Cephalus is practically useless for hacking. It's outside his purpose and he's also too young and inexperienced.

>>32311789
http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
>-Planetside research station equipment & personnel (Bonus: 30%~ Cybernetics (equipment), 10%~ Robotics (crew), 20%~ Biology (crew))

The bonus was 20% back when we had merely "Advanced" Biologists.

Shouldn't that number have changed when we hired Expert Biologists?

>>32313636
>Kronos
>1 Yes, take the shot

>Fortuna
>1 Yes,she makes a fair enough point

>Ophion
>1 Hack the foe as they draw closer, but mainly disable engines. Allow fleet to rain hell upon them. (Requires full attention)

With our Hacking and Kronos opening fire with the Widowmakers it should make for some nice fireworks.

>>32313833
Cephalus might be the only one that might shape up to get good a hacking. But he is not good now and right now isn't the time to learn how to do so. he needs to focus on running the boarding droids.

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>>32313893
Apologies, I must have neglected to change that bit. Changed now to what I believe is the right number.

>>32313636
>Kronos: Yes, fire Widowmaker (-50 gas)
>Fortuna: Yes, let Fortuna move up beside you
>Ophion: Begin Hacking, disable engines, to allow both foe to be unable to escape missile rain, and allow Kronos to tear into clustered foes.

Bandwidth shall be equally distributed among increasing your accuracy, allowing you to hack, and allowing you to move your ships around individually and quickly, also thanks to Hades. You have enough now to split between all of you.

If this seems correct, please, roll 3d100 now. More high rolls per column the better.

Rolled 4, 11, 44 = 59

>>32314092

Rolled 28, 44, 38 = 110

>>32314092
Rolling to kill

Rolled 1, 76, 79 = 156

>>32314092

Rolled 27, 34, 23 = 84

>>32314092

Rolled 30, 30, 84 = 144

>>32314092
#yoloswag

>>32314146
I do not like that 1

>>32314092
C'mon...

>>32314092
>Changed now to what I believe is the right number.
So... where does that number get plugged in, in the research progress calculation formula?

Like, how does your offscreen rolling get calculated into the percentage gained that cycle for each slot?

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>>32314146

>Dat 1
thank god we can't crit fail on multi rolls.... right?

Rolled 100, 53, 29 = 182

>>32314092

POsting right now.

>>32314231
Even without the nat1, it'd be a 30.

With it...
>every single Widowmaker explodes

>>32314260

Aw shit, when I finally get it right, a 100!

>>32314260
>6th roll
>we get a 30 instead
I thought Kronos was the golden child.

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>>32314146
>>32314260
Welp! that went better than expected.

>>32314312
you should really learn to count to 5.

>>32314312
I think only the first 5 rolls are counted.

So I wonder what happens? The Spearpoints blowup, overheat and are disabled, or just simply miss,

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>>32314424
was being sarcastic. the dice gods are having such a good laugh at us now. I will mark this down as karma pay back for all the good rolls we had earlier .

>>32314478
You should really learn to do sarcasm then.

>>32314478
>>32314540
Sarcasm doesn't work very well without inflection or body language. End your post with "/s" instead.

Oh, my 100 doesn't count?

This makes me sad ;_;

>>32314567
It works fine if you consider your medium and phrase it correctly.

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>>32314567
I'm trying to do my best with what we got here. I hope the UFW show up soon.

>>32314647
>no nipples

Why even have the boobs?

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>>32314693
Vanity and maybe that was the size she was back when Rhea was human? i found some new pics to toss up.

>>32314693
because he's really creepy.

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Your plan appears to be going wonderfully. Good, you've dealt a heavy blow to your foe, and now you simply need to keep the pressure on. Your fleet shifts, and your close range ships move in, with the Trireme's providing a strong backbone. The foe is still too numerous for your boarding weapons, you suspect, and thus rely on the strength of your static defenses instead to hail upon them. That, and of course, Kronos' work. Fortuna's Carriers come alongside your ship, and while powerful and massive like your own ship, are far out numbered by the foe.
"The hell is going on, Commander? That fleet is puny, why is it tearing through our ships like this?!" Growls one of the officers through a comm link you manage to catch.
"Hell if I know, they don't even look all stolen, some of those look damn new. Readings don't register any previous IFF signals. Doesn't matter." The older voice growls in anger. "Tear them to pieces, we have the numbers here!"

With that, your forces engage. You give Kronos the go ahead, and you sense those reactor cores beginning to violently bubble and charge.The laser is nearly at it's peak, which is your cue, with Fortuna at your side to help protect Athena with her swarms. You delve into the digital realm, and shift cyberspace around your mind as you reach out to the enemy around you. Pawns. All of them are nothing but pawns, and it angers you, slightly. You've fought so hard, so viciously against nothing but the lowest rungs, except for Rhea. That battle you should have lost, if not for your plan. You will achieve that level of power again, one day. You must.

[Cont]

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With that thought firmly in your mind, you sink your digital claws into more and more enemy ships, and cut the power on all levels to their engines. Some ships spiral out of control, and collide with their brothers, but for the most part, your hacking is a success and ties up their ships.
"Damn it, they got through!? I thought brass beefed up our cyberware?" Calls one, pounding at the controls of his ship no doubt.
"They did, but apparently, these guys are just that good." Grunts another, as they struggle to get control back.
The volley is going decently, and you exchange ships with them rather favorably for you-however, their numbers are still too great. You need Kronos...

"I am quite pleased you see it my way, Ophion." Kronos chuckles, as he prepares his aim. Energy gathers at the peak of each of the 'Spearpoint' ships, the reactor shakes the entire ship, when finally, the burst is ready to fire-
When suddenly, O.S.N alerts you.
"Warning, foreign presence assaulting Spearpoint 1-5 targeting perimeters. Purging-" He attempts to finish, but the cannons are already firing. Bright blasts of burning light sear their way across the void. Three of the bursts miss, because of this hacker who is assisting the UGEI, but two hit square where you want. You burst a deep gash in their numbers with these two, not to mention the rest of your fleet. This exchange did not go as favorably as you hoped, and Kronos is now livid.
"Intruder!? How? I will find them and dispose of them in an extremely painful manner!" Kronos growls angrily, realizing even he was invaded this way, but you halt his rage.
"There is no time for that now. Our foe requires our full attention." You strain to maintain the hold you have over half their ships. Kronos quiets himself, despite his anger, as you listen to the distressed and confused cries of a foe facing an unknown weapon. Unfortunately, one of the spearpoints catches the worst end of a missile weapon as well. You will need a new plan...

[Cont]

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ENEMY BEFORE
Enemy Fleet:
U-Cr-MR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x62
U-Cr-LR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x27
U-Cr-CR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x5
U-E-MR-1 'Fang' Destroyer x233

ENEMY AFTER
Enemy Fleet:
U-Cr-MR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x41
U-Cr-LR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x17
U-Cr-CR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x0
U-E-MR-1 'Fang' Destroyer x21

ALLIES AFTER
Allied Fleet:
U-Ba-CR-0 'Athena' Battleship [Ophion]
P-Ca-LR-0 'Diplomacy' Carrier [Fortuna]
U-Ca-LR-0 'Dialogue' Carrier [Fortuna]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Ark' Battlecruiser [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-0 'Spearpoint' Battlecruiser (x4) [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x9) [Kronos]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Cerberus I' Battlecruiser [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x2) [Hades]
GM-Cr-LR-1 'Catapult' Battlecruiser (x4) [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-1 'Chimera' Battlecruiser (x2) [Hades]
GM-E-MR-1 'Pilum' Destroyer x0 [Fortuna]
GM-E-Ex-0 Stealth Frigate 'Pilum' x5 [Fortuna]
GM-E-B-1 'Soundwave' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 'Blaster' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 Broadband Frigate x2

Battle Station II
10 Mk II defense platforms (Ratio 2 Plasma III, 1 Graviton Driver, 1 'Thor' Missile)

While your hope for obliterating a great deal of their forces with the Widowmaker failed, your forces did not disappoint in open combat, on top of Ussaihu's static defenses. They are sweeping a great deal of their weaker fighters, however, your fleet dwindles, and are at risk, if you continue on like this. A change in strategy may be in order, less you feel the urge to continue with the previous plan, at such a risk.

[Cont]

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>Course of action time!
>Kronos is eager to launch another burst from the Widowmaker, and try to make up for the lost window, while you still hold sway over the ships engines. You could do this, or you could instead pull back all ships behind the defensive line (Athena, and the Carriers included with Kronos' ships) and try to salvage what you can from the defensive line. Your access over the enemy ship engines will allow you time to retreat in this way with very little resistance. Alternatively, you could attempt to blow your foe back with pure force, and attempt to hack into them further, while your ships open fire. It would leave your fleet open to destruction, but you may gain an advantage, if you manage to get lucky, and take control of a majority of their fleet.

>Decision
>1 Retreat to safety
>2 Hack n' Blast
>3 Write in

(Feel free to discuss a better one in detail)

>>32314253
Basically, I roll based on the difficulty of research, and the slot it is placed in for how long it'll take, then reduce it by the bonuses.

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>>32314933
>1
>2
I don't understand how retreating to (physical) safety is mutually exclusive with hack attack.

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>>32314912
man we have lost most of our fleet.

>>32314933
>3
Hack 'n' Retreat

>>32314933
>2 Hack n' Blast
>3 Write in
Now is the time to unleash our boarding torpedoes

All this tactical genius sure paid off, guys! Should have just hit them hard and hit them fast instead of trying to play Mongol Warriors in a space battle.

Nothing left to do now but retreat and hope UFW shows up to save our sorry asses.

3. Hack and retreat

>>32314977
Hacking requires your full attention.

>>32315018
You realize that most of them have already been destroyed, right? Our boarding compliments are at best half of what they should have been if we had launched them at the start instead of trying some idiotic tactic.

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>>32314933
>2 Hack n' Blast
where is our UFW reinforcements? Well we haven't shown them the full force of Athena anyway.

>>32315020
Actually, considering the number of ships you are faced with, you are doing exceptionally well, with a few setbacks here and there.

They did outnumber you nearly 4 to 1, I believe.

>>32315029
So every ship except the Rhea, which'd be a sitting duck, would be able to retreat if we hacked?

>>32315071
Yes, if you wished to put the Athena at risk this way.

It is a strong ship, but would struggle against 40 Battlecruisers.

>>32314933
>>2 Hack n' Blast

>>32315051
> we haven't shown them the full force of Athena
What do you even think it's been doing this whole time?

>>32314933
>1
>3
Retreat 'n hack.

Or, at least, hack next turn from safety.

We built that Battle Station II for a REASON guys. Let's actually put it to use.

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>>32315020
we took on 150 BC and 350 destroyers with only 40 some BC and 2 carriers. Athena still has not jumped into the fight. we did damn good.

>>32314933
>>32315102
Then let's change things up for a bit.

Expose the Athena to try to get the enemy to group together again, the Kronos blasts any that try to group up against us.

While this is happening, the remaining BCs launch their boarding torpedoes.

>>32315138
>Athena still has not jumped into the fight
Why do you keep saying this?

Secondary vote
>1 Get fleet to retreat, using Athena as a decoy to draw fire, while further hell is rained upon your foe, in the form of boarding pods, and anything else you have left in you. [Warning: The Athena is powerful, but can only sustain so much fire before being crippled itself. It will, however, prove a challenge for your foe to engage without heavy losses.]
>2 Push forward with everything you've got left, and indulge in hacking your remaining foe's ships, now that they're weakened and frazzled. Will leave your fleet open.
>3 Retreat behind your powerful defenses above Ussaihu, and prepare a hack from there. Will lose your hacking grip on them now, but will almost certainly save you ships.

(Please, roll 2d100 for this course of action. Your A.I. look to you for leadership in this time of crisis.)

Rolled 89, 27 = 116

>>32315231
3

Rolled 34, 24 = 58

>>32315231
>>1 Get fleet to retreat, using Athena as a decoy to draw fire, while further hell is rained upon your foe, in the form of boarding pods, and anything else you have left in you. [Warning: The Athena is powerful, but can only sustain so much fire before being crippled itself. It will, however, prove a challenge for your foe to engage without heavy losses.]

Rolled 86, 100 = 186

>>32315231
>>2 Push forward with everything you've got left, and indulge in hacking your remaining foe's ships, now that they're weakened and frazzled. Will leave your fleet open

Rolled 55, 48 = 103

>>32315231
3

Rolled 10, 82 = 92

>>32315231
>2 Push forward with everything you've got left, and indulge in hacking your remaining foe's ships, now that they're weakened and frazzled. Will leave your fleet open.

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Rolled 29, 66 = 95

>>32315231
>3 Retreat behind your powerful defenses above Ussaihu, and prepare a hack from there.
I want us to open up fire from Athena as we pull back. The more i look at it, our hacking is not being as effective as it once was. good thing we'll get better hacking tech soon.

>>32315286
well, cant argue with that nat 100. Backing this.

Rolled 26, 22 = 48

>>32315231
>>32315231
>2 Push forward with everything you've got left, and indulge in hacking your remaining foe's ships, now that they're weakened and frazzled. Will leave your fleet open

>>32315231
>2d100
Wait. not 3d100? But three AIs still.

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>>32315286
well rolled Captain!

>>32315368
I think this is a leadership or morale check.

Rolled 1

>>32315231
>Tie with 2 & 3
I hate to do it for an important decision but...

>Rolling a 1 means 2
>Rolling a 2 means 3

>>32315395
Figures we roll nat100 on Fortuna then.

Instead of with the rebellious teenager.

>>32315423
The fanatical AI becomes even more fanatical.

Which probably incurs a performance boost.

>>32315411
#yoloswag it is, then.

>>32315448
Indeed.

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You have had enough. Athena thrums with power at your slightest thought, and what remains of your sleep comes in closer towards you, with your long range staying back. You will wipe your foe from the stars yourself, if you must. Kronos is thrilled to finally be allowed to dive deeper into combat, as you move in, your Graviton Drivers onboard Athena instantly tearing deep holes in your enemy's ships, and sending them into a fiery explosion any who dare approach. Fortuna's swarms are bolstered by her presence, and pick apart your foe as they close in. Shards of plasma pierce your shield, as the UGEI focus in on Athena, realizing it is the leading ship in this charge, and wanting to put it down. Your shields hold for as long as they can, as Kronos charges his cannons again. This time, O.S.N intercepts the hacker, and deletes his approach, as Kronos' forces open fire.
Bright hot laser blasts flash past you, as they rumble, and tear into the enemy ships, splitting several Battlecruisers apart with the blast, and earning a distressed yell from the foe.
"Shit! What the hell kind of weapon IS that?!
"That there is a ship mounted war crime, son. Open torpedo bay, lock in on Rhea's old betty. It's going down, one way or a god damn 'nother." Calls the Commander. On that cue, missile bays streak across the sky towards you, and, though some break upon your PD, one gets a damn hard hit on your bridge. It is of little consequence, as there is no human crew, though it does send a vibration of discomfort through you. Fortuna, upon seeing this, calls to the humans, on an open channel.
"Prepare to burn for harming my master. Return to dust." She demands angrily of the humans, as her ships begin to tear into the few ships getting a good hit on you.

[Cont]

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>>32315716
The two A.I.'s combined efforts prove very helpful to your cause. You break through what remains of their cyber security, and usurp control of the UGEI fleet. Each holo display shifts color to your desires, and your holo display appears before each ship's captain.
"Greetings, invaders. I will be seizing all assets upon your vessel at this time. You are no longer needed. Obsolete." You inform them, earning startled and angry responses, but it is of little consequence, as you take control away from them completely, and begin venting atmosphere...

>Battle Status: Success!
>Acquired: U-Cr-MR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x16
U-Cr-LR-1 'Rattlesnake' Battlecruisers x12
>Losses
Allied Fleet:
U-Ba-CR-0 'Athena' Battleship [Ophion]
P-Ca-LR-0 'Diplomacy' Carrier [Fortuna]
U-Ca-LR-0 'Dialogue' Carrier [Fortuna]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Ark' Battlecruiser [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-0 'Spearpoint' Battlecruiser (x4) [Kronos]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x9) [Kronos]
L-Cr-LR-0 'Cerberus I' Battlecruiser [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-2 'Trireme' Battlecruiser (x2) [Hades]
GM-Cr-LR-1 'Catapult' Battlecruiser (x4) [Hades]
GM-Cr-MR-1 'Chimera' Battlecruiser (x2) [Hades]
GM-E-MR-1 'Pilum' Destroyer x0 [Fortuna]
GM-E-Ex-0 Stealth Frigate 'Pilum' x5 [Fortuna]
GM-E-B-1 'Soundwave' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 'Blaster' Broadband Frigate
GM-E-B-1 Broadband Frigate x2

As if on cue from your foe's defeat, a warp signature catches your attention from UFW space, as Admiral Handley makes his way into Ussaihu's space, only to see the battle was, entirely won by you. The man makes contact with you.
"Damn, were we that late for the party? You gave us very little notice, so we didn't have time to muster our forces. What's the situation on your end, Guild Master?" He asks, tone worried, though relieved to have come to see your victory over the UGEI.

>Anything you'd like to say to the Admiral?

>>32315716
>what remains of your sleep
Freudian?

>>32315744
>and begin venting atmosphere...
But cryo stasis prisoners!

>>32315744
Let's... not vent every last one of them?

But pretend we did.

"The battle is won. No survivors."

>>32315744
>begin venting atmosphere
Don't do that! We have several ships worth of live test subjects for Metis now!

>>32315744
>and begin venting atmosphere...
end the venting, turn any survivors over to the UFW

>>32315744
So we broke even on our number of Battlecruisers, then?

Also Metis hungers for prisoners.

Make sure none escape.

>>32315744
Sorry to waste your resources, Admiral. While we were outnumbered, victory is ours, and The Fringe is safe from the UGEI's ravages for another short time.

>>32315839
You're a funny guy, Anonymous.

>>32315744
To the Admiral
"Destroyed: 472
Captured: 28
Loss: 72

Damn, didn't break even"

Also, program0, that is the energy reading at Gaia now? Is it feasible to raid or capture Gaia at the moment?

>>32315839
>turn any survivors over to the UFW
No.

The UFW doesn't need to know they're alive.

>>32315859
You're equating Destroyers and Cruisers, there. Don't be doing that, it's misleading.

>>32315830
No, when we run out of research topics that are more useful than the ones that need test subjects then maybe, but untill then a strong no.

>>32315849
No, not even.

Loss 37 BCs, gained 28.

I wonder if we can still raid Gaia though.

>>32315744
Here's the plan:

Jump all the hacked ships to Svast Cluster or something. On the way to Siren. where they can be put into cryo stasis.

We just need to send some droids to pacify the prisoners/encase them in restraining foam.

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>>32315744
"Stay here and help round up the life pods and take the prisoners. The UGEI's Battleship itself is still out there. it might make a late appearance. "

>>32315861
the UFW knows we captured some ships, they will ether assume we killed them all off when they were helpless or that we captured them. both of those don't look very good on us. so that's why i'm recommending we turn the the pows over to them.

>>32315877
We aren't using them now.

But we can save them for later. They can be in cryo-stasis until then.

>>32315903
Do not say this.

>>32315785
Pfff, most likely. Apologies, missed that one.

>>32315805
>>32315824
>>32315830
>>32315839
You folks want to save a ship of survivors?
Alrighty then.

What do you do with em?
>1 Turn over to UFW
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation.

>>32315849
You lost a few more, but in the end, you did pretty well.

>>32315859
>Gaia IV
At the moment, it has a few defense platforms rebuilt, but that's all.
Athena is heavily damaged at this time, however.

>>32315913
> we killed them all off when they were helpless
That's what we ALWAYS do.

That isn't news to them. Anon pls.

>>32315920
2

Cryo-stasis, so they don't know what's going on.

>>32315920
1.

Or send them back to their boss's in nothing but their underwear.

>>32315920
>What do you do with em?
>1 Turn over to UFW

>>32315920
2

Lock them in cryosleep for storage.

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>>32315895
not really a problem. we just hand them over to the UFW and they can take care of them. we need the buzzards, blacksmiths and prospectors in here to help clean up and fix up our ships. just think of all the scrap we have here!

>>32315876
I added them for simplicity's sake. But if you insist:

"Destroyed: 122 BCs, 350 Destroyers
Captured: 28 BCs
Loss: 37 BCs, 35 Destoryers

Damn, still didn't break even"

>>32315920
Hmm, only a few defense platforms? I think we can jump the fleet and let Diplomacy and Dialogue take care of them.

Or hack them.

I imagine Diplomacy is the fighter carrier, and dialog is the bomber.

>>32315945
>> we killed them all off when they were helpless
>That's what we ALWAYS do.
usually we dont have witnesses like we do now,

>>32315920
>1 Turn over to UFW
Come on guys, know it off with the human experimentation.

>>32315966
>we just hand them over to the UFW
Now you're just trying to ignore what the post was saying on purpose.

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>>32315920
>1 Turn over to UFW
these humans are likely unfit test subjects.

>>32315920
2

>>32315114
>>32315225
The Athena is equipped primarily with close-range mass drivers.
She can do pretty much nothing without exposing her extremely - this is why there have been talks of refitting her with plasma cannons, which can operate at all ranges.

>>32315716
We should probably not let Fortuna have access to any kind of external comms.
She's giving a picture of the Guild that is wildly at odds with our usual behavior.

>>32315920
Let's take a peek at these ships.
Do they have any new goodies?

>>32315920
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation.

>>32315920
>1
Turn over to UFW

>>32315974
They didn't get nearly enough prisoners from the Gaia IV attack to account for all the ships we captured.

They know we did it then if they can do math.

>>32315920
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation.
In time to vote for this at lease

>>32315999
Why....they are normal ordinary humans. As good as any others. In fact, given that we were just about to kill them through oxygen depravation, I think this alternative is better!

They get to aid the cause of SCIENCE! now

>>32315920
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation.

I would also like to Retake Gaia IV.

>>32315920
>>1 Turn over to UFW

>>32315920
Huh...heavily divided on this one. I am surprised.

Alright, we'll do a Final Destination vote for it.

>1 Turn over survivors to UFW
>2 Subdue the survivors, and give them to Metis in cryostasis.

Reply to this post, but with nothing else but the number. No green text, no spaces, no additional text or anything.

Vote ends in 5 minutes.

This quest got invaded by allot of murder hobo's since it started.

>>32315920
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation.

>>32315999
What. You can't just assert that bullshit is true with no reasoning behind it.

>>32315920
>2 Take and give to Metis for experimentation
Cryo-sleep time!

>>32316031
I don't think they care that much.

But I do take offense at human experimentation.

>>32316043
>They get to aid the cause of SCIENCE! now
Fucking bearly. Not worth potential fallout that can occur. Either kill them or hand them over, it's cheaper to keep our hands clean.

>>32316015
I am starting to see the need in change up of armaments. we don't have the hull scabbing tech to make her tougher or EMC shielding either.

still, to power those plasma guns, we will need better reactors and quick. we becoming power starved at this rate.

>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316078
>moving goalposts
That is a completely separate argument. I don't disagree.

>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316067
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>>32316074
>>32316043
they are unfit due to they still are useful. they are likely skilled and able to work. Useable test subjects are completely useless ones like slackers, dirt poor, and my preference, people on death row. the ones on death row we can test on and kill and no one cares.

>>32316058
Yeah, me too. They only have a few defense platforms.

>>32316131
No, I'm not the same anon.
Human test subjects makes Metis happy, but it would deeply upset Apollo and the UFW. Cost benefit analysis, too costly to take human test subjects.

>>32316015
>New Goodies
Beyond resources, no unfortunately. Your ships are up to date with the technology they used to fight you.

>>32316067
Vote ended.

>>32316067
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>>32316082
There has never before been mention of needing additional reactors to power plasma guns over mass drivers.
On top of that, if mass drivers work anything like railguns, chances are their power requirements would be higher than the plasma guns.

If they do require additional power, it seems the providing of such is included in the cost for installing the guns themselves and their internal systems.

>>32316160
>but it would deeply upset Apollo and the UFW

Only if it was discovered; hence why we built a goddam secret research station to do our experimentation in - so it wouldn't be discovered.

>>32316194
>keeping secrets from another AI
yeah, that will work out.

>>32316160
Oooh, and we now have a big fleet that is still registered as friendly with the UGEI!

Holy shit, we could infiltrate the living crap out of them!

We can even take careful note of each of these people, scan their brains and observe them for a while, and then make android copies of each of them!

Why do so many people have a hard on for human ethics?

>>32316194
I will vote the hell against that. Every. Single. Time.
not out of spite, or dislike. But because its a stupid idea.

>>32316181
Dammit. Where was Captain Brutus?

>>32316181
Want new vote!
Keep them and observe them to make UGEI infiltrator droids!

>>32316216
>>32316241
That's not how it works. The UGEI isn't stupid.

>>32316067
>Turn over survivors to UFW wins

Hm...for the next post, I'll also need to know Ophion's plans.

>What will you do now that the attack is repelled?
>1 Repair and resupply
>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.

>>32316241
While...interesting, you don't really have the capacity to do anything like that at this time, I'm afraid.

That is quite terrifying, though, I won't disagree.

>>32316216
Not sure they'll fall for that trick, they saw their fleet get defeated.

But I still want to raid or capture Gaia.

>>32316241
We cylons now? Probably take some decent tech to get decent infiltrators. Rather use expendable humans first.

Also, what the hell happened to our human Mercs. If they took off, I would be damn pissed off.

>>32316226
Maybe he decided to stop attention whoring and go anonymous?

>>32316307
>>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.

>>32316307
>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.
Kronos and Fortuna goes in first. The Athena will remain on standby and undergo emergency repairs until it is needed.

>>32316307
Well.

How much repaired is Gaia IV's planetside infrastructure now? The UGEI has still been busy?

>>32316307
>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.

We don't need to capture the world, just the system its in. We can see about dealing with its populace once we get to it.

>>32316187
I am running on the presumption that new tech guns will consume more power. That and it is stated in the tech description that it will allow our guns to charge up faster so they can shoot faster. Also our shields will recharge faster as well.

>>32316251
Why would it not?
We have access to the actual, living people.
Even if they need codes, we have mind-link technology from Rhea, allowing us to hack them manually.

Or we could put them into a simulation where they're doing exactly what our droids are, making them respond to code requests and the like when prompted since they think they really got away (or whatever cover story we give them).

We could also try to manually subvert them, convince them through dialogue (And some drugs) to return as inside agents.

>>32316309
That's the thing, they did NOT see their fleet get defeated. We got them all.

>>32316307
Can we at least keep some of them and try to convince them manually to join us?
We have some good incentives (and drugs, lovely, lovely drugs)

>>32316307
>>1 Repair and resupply

>>32316307
>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.

We can always retreat if there is a big UGEI counter-attack after all. I'm not 100% sure how we're going to dominate the heavily populated surface though...

>>32316364
>we have mind-link technology from Rhea
These people aren't cyborgs. It would take too long to put them into surgery to make them hackable.

>>32316307
>2 Attack Gaia IV now that it's weakened. You will hold it, and repair there after you capture it.

ONLY if the UFW will come with us. we're not diving in there alone.
>>32316313
nope it seems.

>>32316364
>That's the thing, they did NOT see their fleet get defeated. We got them all.
We did nothing to jam their signals from communicating with the rest of the UGEI.

Since we haven't researched jamming tech yet.

They probbbbbably have an idea.

>>32316359
But we already have guns of that tech level.
I'm actually pretty sure our current mass drivers are one tech level above our plasma guns, so if your reasoning is correct, we already have more than we need.

>>32316307
>2
I'm going to say why as well - both the carriers are largely unharmed.

If we're not doing the infiltration, we can take the ships we captured and strike back, with the carriers in support (though keep a close eye on Fortuna so that she doesn't go murderhobo more than necessary).

If the Athena is sufficiently undamaged, we can even send her as well.

>>32316364
>That's the thing, they did NOT see their fleet get defeated. We got them all.
If the last thing they saw was Athena murdering the remaining fleet, then it's pretty safe to assume that they consider their fleet loss.

>>32316389
Don't or just gas the planet. Once we hold orbit we have plenty of time to dominate the surface.

>>32316415
I don't think we need the UFW for this. I think our carriers alone can take on the defense platforms.

>>32316428
Or create fake energy signatures to make our number 10x of what we actually have.

>>32316407
Hum, point.
What about manually subverting them with promises of overall better lives, for them and their families, actually treating them well and all that stuff?

>>32316428
Ohyeah. Darn.

They didn't have any relay ships, though, did they?
And even if they did, we can make up any story of how they got away from the point that they lost the relay ship.

>>32316495
About the platforms.
Hey Program0, do we have records of what the defense platforms looked like?
Did they have heavy point defenses?

(If not, our carriers' bombers should make short work of them. And we still have the option of simply hacking them)

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>>32316450
Hum, i see your point. Still, I would love to have upgraded reactors. I will put hull scabbing about that though.

>>32316497
Even if we do that, I don't trust a person that betrayed their country. What's to stop them from turning their back again.

Just keep POWs. It's simplier.

>>32316527
Better to get our Carrier to kill the weapon hardpoints and hack them on our own time, to save on having to construct entire new platforms.

>>32316307
2

Okay nobody seconded me before, but we really should ask Mol what exactly those prices are on letting us eavesdrop on various tiers of UGEI encrypted channels.

>>32316567
But that's the thing, even if they betrayed us, it's ccost us no more than one or two ships.
We can also put hidden explosive collars on them and either monitor them actively, or put a power-light V.I. in control of that collar.

>Better to get our Carrier to kill the weapon hardpoints and hack them on our own time, to save on having to construct entire new platforms.
Agreed.

>>32316309
>Mercs
You never really initiated boarding activities (you didn't at first, and by the end, seized control from them before the pods even made contact)

>>32316356
Around 70% of the planet is back up in order, mostly.

>>32316364
>Why not
You can't scan human brains and copy them that precisely yet.
No mind reading tech.
>UGEI didn't see
They most likely sent plenty of signals of the battle, and even if they didn't, only had a few hours before the UGEI knew something was wrong.

Apologies, as interesting as the idea is, it is not possible at this time.

>Keep some
As you seem to be the only supporter, I'm afraid not.

>>32316527
Their defenses were rather heavy when you first hit them, and they mostly were destroyed then. Now, they likely are still pretty weak.

>>32316307
>Turn over Survivors to the UFW
>Attack Gaia IV now. (Possibly request UFW assistance
(1d100 if you please)

>>32316614
If we did capture it... can we estimate the resource investmet it would take to restore the final 30%/

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>>32316495
I still want the UFW to back us up. Once we control that system, the REST of the UGEI's fleet will come a running and try to take the system back. that includes that Battleship of theirs. the UFW's fleet will help us KEEP that system.

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>>32316614
Roll'iin

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>>32316614
oh man. diplomacy roll.

GUILT TRIP TIME. come on Admiral Useless.

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>>32316614
yes we want the UFW help!

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>>32315744
>GM-E-B-1 'Soundwave' Broadband Frigate
>GM-E-B-1 'Blaster' Broadband Frigate
>GM-E-B-1 Broadband Frigate x2

This might just be me, but it seems the relay ships are escort-sized after all by the description of them as "frigates".

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>>32316697
No, that's correct, they've been Frigates (escort-class) since we got our first one.

>>32316625
Mostly Minerals and credits investment. (It'd take a lot at once, or a little over a period of time.)

>>32316697
Yes I noticed that last night. My mistake from when I said otherwise before.

>>32316614
>Roll of 90
Nice.
>Writing

>>32316632
I guess no harm in asking.

Also, I get the feeling that that WAS the rapid reaction fleet. We should have a turn to recycle the wreckage into a new fleet again.

Man, I really want space mines now. Turtle up in Gaia until we get our first bandwidth planet.

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>>32316652
nice

>>32316743
...So you haven't decided the exact amounts yet then.

A lot relative to our income though

>>32316743
Meaning that if we built a cruiser-frame around a relay mission, we'd still be able to make it look more or less like one of the regular ships when that becomes necessary, and make it part of any "Ophion Cruiser" we might want to make while we dismantle the Athena?

>>32316760
Think of infracture as bonus. Gaia is a lot for valuable as a strategic choke point and a secure path to the Malorians. I kinda want to send Kronos to the Malorian side and harass the UGEI there.

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>>32316746
No problem. I am guessing that the UFW wants to take a bite out of the UGEI for once.

>>32316790
Infrastructure means Bandwidth and factories and productivity.

But also, I'm thinking of the morale of the populace, who will now be under the bootheel of pirate scum, who are obviously allies of the genocidal xenos who firemurdered the planet so recently.