>>32165810
shouldn't crystal alien fragments be finished now since it was Secondary?

and shouldn't we have a little less than 9 million credits in the bank this cycle?

>>32165810
>Metis' Move
"My new surroundings are most excellent, Ophion." A rather familiar tone speaks with you, as Metis begins her full integration into Siren's Research Station. Her signal is far more distant now, but you, and she, feels safer. She is still able to speak with the human facility, as well, and it is far less likely she will be found out this way. Metis' V.I., Hephaestus, appears to be somewhat puzzled about the lack of direct guidence, but you don't worry too much. V.I. need time to advance on their own. You speak with Metis again.
"I am glad you approve. I trust it has everything you could want for research?" You ask.
"Certainly, and perhaps more. Especially with some of that new tech, like Genetic Engineering, I may be able to do wonders. Though, I do assume you desire me not to rapidly experiment on organic beings, due to your odd habit of speaking with and diplomacing them. As a result, I leave it up to you what experiments I follow through with on such a 'delicate' matter." Metis speaks with a hint of sarcasm-or so you think-but it does not bother you terribly. You will remember, however, some of the research you unlocked is a door. And it is up to you to open it."

[Cont]

>>32165898
On a slightly related matter, you can't help but notice Mori has taken notice of Metis' leave. Of one of the few organic creatures capable of recognizing her intelligence, you suppose it is not that surprising.
"It's not that I mind..." Mori continues as she speaks with you. "I guess it just feels a little lonely around her without her around." She sighs dramatically, as if she hopes to make a point, though it somewhat eludes you.
"There are over 200 humans planetside with you, surely that-" You begin to attempt to 'console' her.
"That's not what I mean, honey." She sort of laughs with a snort. "There's a difference between people you work with and people you talk with. And hell if I really talk to the others here." She sits back in her seat comfortably, looking back at your floating orb. This puzzles you.
"You spoke with Metis, instead of work with her?"
"No no, not like...uh..." Mori groans, scratching her head. "Nevermind, Ophy." She waves her hand dismissively. "It just felt...oddly safe having one so close. A.I. that is." She clarifies, though this further puzzles you. You thought she may find it uncomfortable. But you suppose it does not matter terribly, and do not dwell on it.

>>32165915
A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1
Research Subjects: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Research
Ship & Android Designs: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Designs
Locations: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Locations

Resources
Credits(c): 5,264,000
Minerals(M): 700
Gas(G): 1250

-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 45%
--Secondary: Lightling Language 65%
--Tertiary: Crystal Alien Fragments: 90%

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): 'Shapeless Morphing Sphere', 'Shining Wall of Crystal pulsing with light and distorted voice', 'Screen of Static with low rumbling voice', 'black screen with synthesized voice and small white font showing words on screen'.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 252/276
Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -10 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus', -2 Metis' V.I. 1 'Hepaestus'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, Control
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced

>>32165881
It was moved to Tertiary, so no.

As for credits, you spent nearly all of them on tech last turn, and a few other expenses averaged out to around 6 or so, by my count. Unless I messed up some math.

>>32165964
I'm pretty sure last thread did the opposite?

and income was 11.5 million. expenses 2.915 million.

>>32165810
I see that you have succeeded in recharging your batteries Program0.
>>32165915
Ahhh, Moira is like someone who lost her puppy.

>>32165998
Did the opposite? What do you mean?
I am pretty certain it was moved to the third slot because people saw it as less important.

And as for the last bit...I might have missed a few million somewhere?
I'll just make it 9 then.

>>32165938
Check in on Cephalus

>>32166021
Fuck. I thought we'd have at least a little time before this retard showed up.

>>32166054
>Research regards
It has been suggested, with support, that you swap Crystal Fragments research down a slot in order to give Encryption Matrix a slot. This would make Lightling Language Tertiary in the process.
If this is acceptable, vote now.
>1 Yes
>2 No

>Research change confirmed

One person mentioned that they would rather it be moved to Tertiary but that is the only person I saw.

>>32166054
I mean this

>>32024300
bump things down a slot. since it'd get done this cycle that way anyway.

>>32166073
The A.I. has simply been making orders for Androids, lately from what you can see. Most of them are rolling off the assembly line now, not to mention that Cephalus has given name to some of the unnamed units. Beyond that, the being has not said much. Is there something in particular you'd like to approach him with?

>>32166101
Well.
Shit then. I mixed up some things in my notes then.

>>32166021
>Ahhh, Moira is like someone who lost her puppy.

I think you've written so much bad fanfiction that you now have weird preconceived notions about this character.

>>32166100
What is your malfunction anon? Or are you just going to shit post all night?

>>32166101
>1
>>32166155
i was being mildly silly.

>>32166132
>>32166101
Right, so I fucked this up somehow.
Here's how it should look (I think)

-R & D
--Primary: Encryption Matrix 45%
--Secondary: Crystal Alien Fragments 100%
--Tertiary: Lightling Language 55%

>>32166168
>What is your malfunction anon?
What?
>Or are you just going to shit post all night?
Nope, just voicing my dissatisfaction about the town idiot. I'll keep it to a minimum for the rest of the thread.

>>32166210
>Secondary: Crystal Alien Fragments 100%
Shit that was really fast.

>>32166210
Woo! We now have room for more research!

>>32166210
tertiary gains only 15% with both a second station and expert biologists?

>>32165938
>>32166210
Ah, I see that we didn't build the droid carrier I designed last thread.

Did we outfit our merc squad with power armor?

Also, I hope the human mercs and Cephalus have been training in boarding actions.

>>32166241
You guys got shit loads of biologist and bonuses on that one, so it was indeed fast.

>>32166317
With a really low roll, yep.

>>32166317
Its tertiary for a reason.

>>32166210
>>32166241
Oh wow! a freed up tech slot already. nice.

>>32166327
>Droid Carrier
No but it's designs have been finalized. People are free to vote to construct it this thread if they like.

>Mercs in power Armor
Not yet, due to the possibility that they will share this tech with other pirates.
That can be voted on, however if you desire.

>Boarding actions
They have and did.

>>32166339
I mean it got similar numbers before those buffs.

>>32166366
>Not yet, due to the possibility that they will share this tech with other pirates.

Shit, that might be bad. Can we sell it to the UFW first?

>>32166339
I meant it got similar numbers before those buffs. don't you recall?

but dice gods explain it.

>>32166101
>>32166154
I'd still vote for having it in tertiary if possible.

The crystals are an Unlocking tech and gives us nothing on its own save knowledge, and right now we desperately need more practical things, like being able to persuade Lightlings to defend us, and hacking more efficiently.

>>32166416
Language is hard.

>>32166337
we should put in fungicide in that slot. that zombie spore attack was worrisome. also, i noticed we have a growing problem with the Eshareth system. the out of control growth is spreading to other planets.

>>32166418
If you wanted to, you can.

>>32166366
>Mercs in power Armor
I think we should. Should be simple enough to root in a monitoring software to keep track of this technology. If we plan on having the mercs jack the big one, then we need the best spearhead the assault.

>>32165898
>>32165915
>Just checking
>Anything to say to Metis, or Mori?

>>32166437
too late. bask in your free research slot, secondary would have been wasted on language with dat low roll

now we learn the truth behind crystals.

inb4 universe ending secret

>>32166473
Eh I don't think we should. I don't even know why we spend money on these dudes.

>>32166473
We should just start selling it to any interested buyers.

UFW would probably want to buy it.
Mercs would want to buy it with the money we give them.
Maybe even the guys at Dresh would want to buy some.

>>32166503
They'll work well with the stealth ships because we don't need constant communication to control them. Also, if outfit them with power armor for boarding action, we'll be pulling the same trick Rhea tried, only with power armor.

>>32166481
to Moira:
We can provide a direct line to Metis for you any time you wish.
to Metis:
Moira seems to have grown fond of you. I would say that she thinks of you as a friend. That is good, your socializing with others is progressing.

>>32166540
I think if we're getting the human merc to jack the tartarus, might as well outfit them with Power Armor to improve their chances and get it done as soon as possible.

>>32166552
Her tricks were mostly down to being really flexible. Also when are we not in constant communication with our stuff? Its like the main advantage of being an AI.

>>32166418
christ no.

stop sharing tech it's the only edge we got. ufw will inevitably turn on us when they find out either of our two terrible secrets.

>>32166596
Radio silence with the stealth ships will make them impossible to detect. Just give them predetermined orders to independently jack the most important ships during battle.

>>32166596
Unlike drones human mercs are all sapient. This could be good for stealth ships because we're not in constant communication with them.

Also we don't know if people can detect our signals.

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>Spearpoint
>Special: Widowmaker
>x5

>>32166540
No way dude. you think we need money at this point? maintain tech monopoluy.

>>32166626
>>32166633
VI that can control mechs are a thing.

Can we not share our fancy new toys with everyone?

I mean we can put androids in them or do other things that won't be giving away tech.
>>32166481
Nope, I think that is all Program0.

>>32166608
Power armor is pretty much only useful for humans. If you want a comparable drone just build one.

That means we can either horde it for ourselves and let it be useless, give it to the mercs and hope it doesn't leak to pirates, or start selling it and make some money.

>>32166657
Actual useful VI can't fit on stealth ships.

An AI could though, if you want to build a spy AI.

>>32166673
Horde it and give it to people we can trust.

It seems most are concerned with tech, so I shall move on towards that.

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>Tech Acquired and integrated: Genetic Engineering I, Explosives I, Human Cyborgs & Android Bodies, Crystal Alien Fragments

>Genetic Engineering I
You quite literally learn to play this 'god' character humans speak of, and mettle with DNA in new and unseen ways. This will allow you knowledge of the human genome, and open the door to perfect organics, super soldiers, and allows for more complex genetic experimentation. Requires further input for concrete use

>Explosives I
This research allows for future explosive and missile R&D, primarily weapons development & upgrading. Allows development of small Android-deployable explosives. Allows for advanced means of missile deployment and other explosives related tasks

>Human Cyborgs & Android Bodies
Further cybernetic knowledge, possible, fusing man and machine. Allows more efficient android use and creation.

>Crystal Alien Fragments
Upon further study of this intelligent mineral, so to speak, you've found a number of things. One such thing is that it acts quite well as a building material (minerals) if harvested correctly. While this may be indeed useful, it is worth noting that, for now, it grows quite slowly, and it appears to have a maturity cycle you've yet to full observe. But your sensors tell you it must be a certain size in order to reach this maturity. Your guess is that it roots itself deep in a planet, and may cause damage to the environment. With some modification, you may be able to speed it up, and 'farm' the creature, though it's sentience registers pain when you do so, and attempts to defend itself. You are also uncertain if there are other specimens where this one came from.

Any questions for Metis?

>>32166481
physical location should be irrelevant with FTL data uplinks, surely.

carry on as you were.

>>32166705
Why did we waste a research slot just to give power armor to like two people?

>>32166704
>Actual useful VI can't fit on stealth ships.
Wut? Says who?

>>32166727
I believe Program0 mentioned V.I. cannot fit on small ships.

>>32166724
Because we thought those people were sort of cool? I didn't vote for it.

I think we need to research
>Combat Algorithms: Develop and run countless simulations, and improve your command structure to allow weaker minds (V.I.), and even minds like yours (A.I.) to control larger numbers of ships far more easily.
Make us better at space battles.

>>32166657
One of our few advantages against the UGEI is that they don't know our VI and AI technology. Let's not but a VI in a position where it can be compromised. Also, VI will need a constant connection to Bandwidth, which could be possibly detected.

>>32166673
>>32166705
What was the point of researching power armor if we weren't going to outfit our Merc crew with it?

>>32166706
Just how sentient is this thing? Can we communicate with it?

>>32166749
Me neither, but we might as well reap the reward for it.

I blame fluff.

>>32166704
>spy AI
Could be useful. Might be a liability if captured tho.

>>32166673
if researching it was a bad decision, that's no excuse to make a NEW bad decision.

and we are making droids. unit 12

>>32166805
Although I would like an espionage AI. Has a lot more free reign than most of our other AI. Have it practice manipulating the UFW first before we let it loose on the UGEI.

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>>32166787
I wanted to equip our human Mercs with the armor to boost their chances of completing their missions as well as getting human troops I hope to have to help occupy Gaia when we take that system. Letting our other human employees have suits as well is just a nice gesture. Besides, Red always wanted a suit of power armor.

>>32166820
Fine, we don't need to sell it to everyone.

But we should at least sell it to the UFW and outfit our mercs with it.

Sitting on the tech is just dumb.

>>32166727
>>32166746
V.I. can fit on Frigates, but they'd need you to provide them with bandwidth (which sort of makes stealth hard)

>>32166750
It is a simple sentience. Similar of sorts to how the Lightlings behave, but simpler. These things are very slow in how they behave and think, but they can still experience certain emotions identified as sentient. They don't have the same sense of connection to their own kind that normal organics do, however (probably because it's not organic), but it does communicate with others of it's own kind (aka, pieces you broke off and that became independent).

Maybe moving Mori to work with Metis might be a good idea? It would give Metis a human connection so she doesn't become completely detached to people, and Mori would feel safer I guess.

The only problem might be finding someone else to run the first station, or having Mori do it from afar.

>>32166891
Outfitting the mercs comes with the chance of leaking it to fucking pirates.

>>32166706
Do not GIVE the mercs the power armor. Simply provide it for engagements and train them in its use. Also outfit the suits with protections to help prevent them from being stolen

>>32166832
Isn't Red's ship a stealth ship? We could put it on there.

>>32166832
just as a reminder, we DO have a sleeping maybe UGEI A.I. as a prisoner. It is likely has UGEI codes that could pass as a mole/spy A.I. if we could tinker with it.

>>32166897
>V.I. can fit on Frigates, but they'd need you to provide them with bandwidth (which sort of makes stealth hard)
Thanks for clearing this up.

>It is a simple sentience. Similar of sorts to how the Lightlings behave, but simpler. These things are very slow in how they behave and think, but they can still experience certain emotions identified as sentient. They don't have the same sense of connection to their own kind that normal organics do, however (probably because it's not organic), but it does communicate with others of it's own kind (aka, pieces you broke off and that became independent).
Is it possible to modify the crystal to not feel pain, or make it docile like a farm animal?

>>32166928
>>32166930
Hmmm, risky plans. I want to save it for later once we have a very mature and cunning AI developed and trained.

>>32166913
Which is why I said we should sell it to everyone so even if some pirates get ahold of it other people will have it. We'll be making bank as well.

>>32166952
If everyone has it then people can use it against us and we make a shitload of money anyway.

>>32166706
I was under the impression that Genetic Engineering I would allow us to correct minor genetic flaws and cure genetic diseases when it was first proposed. (Thus allowing us to rack up decent pull with anyone suffering from serious genetic disorders and the public at large by providing treatments cheaply) Did that change, or..?

>Explosives
Put them on the spiderbooots!
What does "Advanced Missile Deployment" mean? Jettisoning them haphazardly from a cargo hold and then telling their computers who the target is?

>Sentient Crystal
Ask Metis if there's any chance we could take a sample and lobotomize it, especially the parts that send "pain" signals.

>>32166709
This is something I wonder about.
Whyever would it matter where the black box is, save for protection purposes?
Are there significant ping times?
If so, where is the bottleneck?
Light-lag? Atmospheric interference? The FTL systems?

>>32166750
Combat Algorithms seem cool as shit.
Don't suppose there's a decent chance it could be developed in a single turn if it was in the primary slot (since it's mostly software based and we've previously created entire V.I. in negligible amounts of time, with even less for programs, even complex ones)?

>>32166918
>Outfit them with protections to prevent them from being stolen.
Such as, Consciousness anon? There are a great many things you could do. Did you have something in mind?

>>32166931
Possible, though it may take time. Taking parts of it's body to process are a natural pain response, and would be, essentially, like trying to modify cows to not feel pain when you cut chunks out of their stomach.
Okay, not THAT extreme, but it's somewhat similar.

>>32166913
You realize not all "pirates" are actual pirates, right? It's just a designation for unknown or unaffiliated ships or cities.

We're considered pirates. Those guys at Dresh are considered pirates.

>>32166970
Not too worried since we can send never ending waves of superior drones at them.

>>32166902
If Moira wants to go with Metis, her assistant can cover for her. Tel-communications is wonderful at this point.
>>32166913
>>32166918
My good anons, we can simply rig our armors if they are stolen or tampered to steal our tech they can self destruct to prevent that.

>>32166970
> I'll sell my inventions so that *everyone* can have power armor. *Everyone* can be mecha! And when everyone's mecha... no one will be.

>>32166949
Might as well start training one now then. I kinda want to see how Cephalus is turning out first before making a new AI though.

>>32166994
Pretty sure Program0 means the sort of pirates we always fight. Also we fought with the guys at Dresh remember?
>>32167013
Or we can send our never ending waves of superior drones at the dudes that dont have power armour.
>>32167023
Doesnt help when people are suggesting selling the stuff.

>>32166985
Each separate piece has a beacon we can track so they can't just take them. Install them in berths (think cryopods) which keep them from being constantly available. I also imagine we could set them to self destruct, or simply fry themselves if moved a certain distance away from the other pieces. Also 24 surveillance of the suits would be a good idea. AI don't need to sleep.

>>32166978
>Genetic Engineering I
It does all of those things, yes. Sorry if I didn't list it, it is sort of a broad topic.

Now you can provide genetic cures for a number of minor things in systems that lack proper hospitals to do that stuff for people (so the poorer planets)

It might cost a bit of cash, though it's not like you have any shortage of that.

>Explosives
Their explosive payload should indeed be upgraded.
>Advanced Missile Deployment
Basically means higher grade Point Defense needed against them, for special deployment types (like dumbfire burst, blossom attacks, etc).

>Sentient Crystal
"That is, essentially, what I have been doing, you see. It does have some manner of 'core' to it, but it is deeply entrenched in much of the crystal structure. When broken, it violently reacts, and pieces that are removed without the core attempt to return towards it, or failing that, find resources to make their own."

>>32166985
Modifying cows to not feel pain doesn't sound that advanced at all, really.
Just stunt their nerve growth, make them stop producing the proper signal substances, remove their receptors.

Best would be if we could render them entirely nonsentient but still functional. No, the best would be if we could tap into and replace their sentience with our own, the way one might run our computers on human brains one day.
(Of course, if they're that much simpler than animal brains, it might not be nearly as difficult)

In this case, we would obviously still keep some sentient ones around for study. We'd be sacrificing a labrat for a massive tool, not a race.

>>32166978
I rather have the hack research first. That shit is important.

>>32166985
Actually, this is a good point. Is the crystal more or less intelligent than cows? Is there a way to kill it in the most painless way possible?

Also, is it possible to research how their intelligence works in improve our our own system processes?

Also, Program0, how are the Losirians doing? Can we purchase ships from them, or will just simply hiring them will be cheaper?

>>32166978
>Where would it matter where Black boxes are
Not a big one, really. Though you do notice that an A.I.'s attention does, occasionally, hover around where their core is, if only by habit. Possibly a defense mechanism, it is hard to be sure.
>Any lag?
Only if your communication network allows it (which for right now, it doesn't). It can be interfered with via atmospheres, and other distinct anomalies though.

>Combat Algorithms
You are exceptionally good at software creation. But no, not in one turn. It is essentially recreating how you control your forces to make it far more efficient.

>>32166706
>question for Metis?

Why would this creature be emitting a signal? Does it want attention? Is it trying to communicate?

Could these fragments be in tune with the mother mass over FTL distances?

>>32167074
If we're likely to get it next turn I'd agree wih you, but judging by the progress this turn it doesn't look like it.
Unless... maybe we could devote both the tertiary and the primary to the Encryption Matrix?

But if we can't be fairly sure that the hacking will be developed next turn, I'd suggest nudging it down one step to secondary (and the Lightling Language to tertiary, since it's unlikely to be as practical for the coming battles) and putting the combat algorithms at first.

>>32167057
Program0, pretty please with sprinkles on top, can we have some POV from some random people either being affected by The Guilds' recent movements (whether enemy or one of the people on the planet we took over, or someone in the UFW, or the Malorians, or the Reeflings or anything, really), or someone working directly for us?

>>32167050
>Also we fought with the guys at Dresh remember?

Well yeah, we attacked them to claim territory.

>>32167050
I for one wouldn't mind trading the Power armor with the UFW for needed minerals and/or gas. at least the UFW is more likely to be responsible with it. we already handed a ton of weapon tech to them.

>>32166891
What the hell is the cost benefit analysis you did of sharing it with ANYONE.

what was the point of this research branch at all?

just because idiots wasted a research slot for months doesn't mean you have some MORAL OBLIGATION to do something even stupider like make it harder to face people we might have to fight in the future.

>>32167144
That's not how the slots work. Primary means as much research goes into it as possible. Tertiary means whatever is left over.

>>32167055
Such a thing may work, meaning only the most technologically adept Pirates could disarm the armor for use otherwise.

Though if it self destructs, it is worth noting that it will likely kill anyone who is wearing it.

>>32167062
I suppose you do make a point. The genetic structure of the crystal is far more complex then cows, but still, it is possible, even if the specimen will appear stunted to others of it's species (assuming it didn't spawn them)

>>32167153
>Mercs
Because they can actually do stealth missions on their own. If we put safeguards into the armor we could prevent them from leaking it to others.

>UFW
Like it or not they're the closest thing we have to an ally. If we can get them to be actually useful against the UGEI's ground forces them I'm all for selling them power armor.

>>32167149
Because they were pirates.
>>32167151
They aint got shit for dick in terms of gas and thats what we really need but they are probably the best guys to give the stuff to if we do.

>>32167204
> If we can get them to be actually useful against the UGEI's ground forces
give it to them when and only when that happens then.

because "closest thing to an ally" actually means "curremt trade partner" and "future enemy/conquest bait".

One of these days the UFW will roll a nat100 and trade the drug network to Voidsnake.

>>32167074
It is certainly more intelligent then cows. Nearly on Dolphin level, really. Though it's extremely slow methods of thinking might make it appear dumb or lack such sentience to others.
>Kill it painlessly
Most likely doing it quickly, before it's core could register it was under attack. Though, if even a small piece survives, it will attempt to reproduce.

>Improve system processors with it's intelligence
Unlikely. It's mind is far too slow to improve yours, which operates far faster.

>Losirians
Still in the middle of their uprising. war is mere cycles away, if it hasn't already started yet. Skirmishes are all over the place for now.
>Purchase ships from them
Most are occupied by now.
>Hiring them
Most are actually hired as well (or rather, not accepting contracts at the moment)

>>32167128
"That much I can not be sure of. What I do know, however, is the signal must be how it communicates normally. Other pieces of itself react and move towards the sound, attempting to remerge. If it is communicating via FTL, then I am unable to detect it. Which in itself is quite worrisome."

>>32167208
giving it to them would be worse than pirates, honestly.

pirates are not a united front with a single military. much easier to handle as enemies.

pirates are no threat to us at our tech levels.

in fact who cares? let the pirates go wild! same with lightlings! i see no problem here. the Useless Freeloading Wankers' concepts of law and order are not really our problem.

>>32167186
Can Program0 confirm this?
It doesn't sound anything like what the system right now seems to be doing - you'll note that the secondary and tertiary research subjects increased, even though the primary did not finish (and thus would not reasonably have "spare" research time).

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>>32167204
the UFW also have a large population that can be made into troopers as well. it will will require a large numbers of them to help us occupy Gaia when we take it.
>>32167208
if not gas, then needed minerals will do as well. i know they have lots of that and we sure can use it just the same. not as much as gas, but every bit helps. OR, if the UFW has Tech we don't yet, we can do a trade with that as well.

>>32167245
>future enemy/conquest bait
Yeah, doesn't seem like most of us want to conquer the UFW, at least not militarily.

>One of these days the UFW will roll a nat100 and trade the drug network to Voidsnake
Now you're just reaching.

>>32167304
We should really influence the UFW to our ends to make them more useful to us. At least have Apollo start laying the groundwork. Invest our credits into a useful UFW future.

>>32167299
The question remains then... how did it end up in that planet.

What would you require to answer broader and deeper questions about this species?

>>32167304
I don't care about them running wild I care about them coming after us.
>>32167336
>OR, if the UFW has Tech we don't yet
Ha!

>>32167153
Mate, chill out.

I agree with you that people wasted the slot researching something we can't use, but understand that the UGEI likely already have power armor, and our droids are already equal to or better than a suit of power armor (with a lobotomite inside).

The least we can do is sell it (units of PA, not the tech to make it) to the UFW, which will make us some dosh, and grant our allies an advantage in boarding and ground ops.

>>32167144
>POV for recent Guild actions
Well, there are really far too many to address on that matter.
The UFW at the moment considers you more of a guardian then an ally, and try to look the other way (or the government does anyway) at the odd things you do sometimes, and decides not to question it. To the average citizen, you're basically a bunch of heroic mercs.
To the Malorians they regard you with a great deal of caution, even with your help. They can't really figure out why you'd help them since they assume you're human and therefore would work for the UGEI.
To the UGEI (or Gaia IV) they've gotten a ton of reports about how they narrowly avoided getting taken as slaves by the Guild, or worse, torched by your war machine.

Doing a POV for each may be terribly time consuming, and not that interactive. I already worry things move too damn slow as it is. Even if I would enjoy writing a bit of a POV.

>>32167342
>Yeah, doesn't seem like most of us want to conquer the UFW, at least not militarily.
I noticed.

the diplomancers are short sighted.

>>32167345
case in point.

you cannot. do. this.

every thread spans a cycle at most.

"infuencing" an entire society and/or its political system takes literal years.

assume a cycle is a week, just like in real time, and you wouldn't get meaningful change for over 100 threads at the *least* -- that's over 2 years in real time of questing.

it is a Quixotic mission to "diplomance them into being useful". an idea worse than worthless because continuously futilely trying it prevents more productive courses of action.

I liked the idea of an espionage AI, anyone want to flesh this out?

I'm thinking give them a stealth ship with some droids and mercs in power armor.

>>32167345
According to Program0 we have a children's cartoon in the making courtesy of Apollo. It casts xenos and AI in a more positive light.
I don't know if its Dora The Explorer or Young Justice tier, though.

>>32167426
Put it on Red's ship. They can get into wacky hijinks and learn the true meaning of friendship.

>>32167314
Primary is indeed devote as much research as you can to it, and the others are lesser and lesser. Primary means you want it done ASAP. The others mean 'when you have time, look into these' and Tertiary is basically "Oh that other thing I wanted to look into, see what's up there."

The reason the finish times are wonky, is because some of them finish and start a whole new one while others are at 60%. And also, other bonuses to certain things due to the type of research doesn't hurt.

>>32167274
can those crystals be used to power up our reactors? i am sure all of our new weapon systems are putting a toll on our power generators.
>>32167299
that is worrying if it is doing that

>>32167426
If we make a stealth AI that totally eliminates the usefulness of the mercs.

>>32167475
How do we unlock more primary spots?

>>32167385
>The least we can do is sell it
not really. we need no new source of money, and empowering people who are not us is bad.

only use is it provides plausible deniability for when we send out power armor droids that seem to contain people.

Here's the plan of action I'm thinking:
We recon Gaia, and see if we can bust in and hold it. Letting the UFW in on our plans beforehand would help, as they would be able to move to reinforce as we move to take.

>>32167199
Well, we'd essentially be making headless cows.

It's certainly far more ethical than keeping regular cows for slaughter, breeding and milking, but it's probably going to unnerve regular cows.

>>32167274
It's nearly as intelligent as dolphins?
Well damn. Can we put a colony in an electromagnetically hovering steel or glass box (or whatever materials holds them best. Did we discover any material they don't break down, or that they only break down very slowly, or just the one they break down slowest when researching them?) and try learn some of their signals?

That they operate slowly doesn't mean they don't have an efficient system considering what they're using. A bacteria can help architects design subway paths, for example, even though the subway is far faster.
But if there's really nothing to gain, oh well.

>>32167299
If they have some form of communication that cannot be ordinarily detected, that would be immensely valuable, since it might render our in-system signals undetectable. If it's FTL, we might be able to render entire bases undetectabe at range!

Hell, if we put them in dark space there might be virtually zero chance of anyone detecting them (unless they can trace that kind of communication, that is).

>>32167359
As state, it was found investing a ship over Atocian I. How it got there is uncertain, however it is not unreasonable to assume it was harvested unknowingly and took over the ship when it returned home. That being said, little is known about the species beyond this one particular being. You could turn it into a harvested crop, or could attempt to magnify it's signal and locate it's homeworld, if you truly desired. Though, that may have it's own consequences.

>>32167494
Was it confirmed that our signals are undetectable?

>>32167536
what signals?

if you aren't broadcasting your radio to commune with the other AIs and your bandwidth network over FTL there's no transmissions to detect.

>>32167423
I disagree, change can happen faster than you expect. Just manufacture some scandals to get some politicians out of office, manufacture a moral panic to get people to trip over themselves to get them to do something we need them to do.

Find some charismatic person to be the next Obama, Bush, or Hitler, depending on our needs. Give them media spotlight and get the snowball rolling.

>>32167446
Not enough, we need to get our hands dirty in the political process.

>>32167446
>Dora The Explorer Tier
Oh god, the most adorable A.I. Xeno team up ever.

I can't handle it.

>>32167395
Meant one or maybe two, not all of them. (They were just suggestions for ones that might be interesting).

And as they say, time that you enjoy wasting is not wasted. Why are we here if not to waste time in a way we enjoy?

>>32167551
The signals we broadcast to our droids so we can control them wirelessly.

>>32167507
>we need no new source of money
While it probably funds terrorism or at the very least extensive criminal activity, Mol has a TON of tech we can buy off him. The faster we acquire that the better.

Besides, the UFW are still lacking in fleet-tech compared to us. Even if their troopers are power armored Adonii, that won't matter because:
A: We have no population centers to take over.
B: Our ships are better, and we can blow them out of the sky before they board.
C: Drones are equal to or better than PA humans.

Tech suggestion:
Miniature Stutter Drives: You know the Fade from Natural Selection? A drone that can do that, or better.

>>32167553
Apollo has been trying.

If fast change like that were feasible it would have happened by now.

It's a poor gamble to keep hoping. we can only astroturf so hard.

>>32167481
>Crystals power reactos
Metis says
"That is another interesting thing. Some of the core clusters appear like they have a high concentration of energy within. I may actually be able to liquify and turn the substance into fuel. In short, make the being produce gas, as well as minerals. This, however, will no doubt be modification intensify, and the being itself will undoubtedly be damaged, whether it feels pain or not. The yield may be worth it, however.

>>32167584
Yo if we need money why don't we invent a virus that skims a spacedollar out of everyone's account a day?

>>32167584
It will however make our boarding droids useless, and make it harder to conquer the UFW planets with our droid army when they inevitably turn on us as silicon scum/drug peddlers.

>>32167506
You can not. Three slots is the max. More advanced research facilities would boost research speed, however.

>>32167515
I agree we should determine the communication mechanism. This sounds very useful.

We should definitely learn more about this before using it as a crop.

>>32167594
Gee, I've come up with like a dozen plans to co-op the UFW, including the computer software one, but that time the entire thread turned against me.

>>32167584
Not entierly true, its a large investment to make a efficient VI drone who can do more than a few simple jobs without the overveiw of an AI, wereas a human is a complex biological processor walking around as is.

Frankly the best thing would be to have a human command a small squad of VI drones, under the command of an AI strategist.

>>32167614
"Attempt to make an unintelligent strain of the creature, Metis. We can use that as fuel."

>>32167633
So we couldn't make a second research AI and have him do his own thing?

>>32167614
We should definitely study it's sentience. We want to avoid damaging long term consequences and if we can unlock the "how" of the sentience, think of the potential we can unlock.

>>32167634
I don't know why the ALTIMIT OS marketing idea hasn't been implemented yet either honestly.

There is no such thing as "only an AI could hack this" zero-day exploit, still, but if you want to introduce regular 0-days in a future update when our install base is big enough, that's a sensible idea.

>>32167647
>human command a small squad of VI drones, under the command of an AI strategist.
Why not have the AI command the VI? Or just command the drones itself?

>>32167648
It doesn't particulary matter if it's intelligent.

Only that it can't cry out and alert its kind.

>>32167624
Too noticeable. That'd be fraud on a graaaand scale.

>>32167631
It won't make our boarding droids any more useless. They use speed and shock as their primary weapons. Just because the other guy is in limited-production Guild produced PA doesn't mean he can stem a grey tide.

And again, why do we want to conquer planets? They have very little to offer us. We want space. Space materials. Besides we can enforce compliance of the UFW population the old fashioned way: Do what we say or we nuke you from orbit.

>>32167671
Heh, that reminds me how Google's products are always in beta. Just simple say it's very secure, just not totally 100% and we are patching it up we we go along.

>>32167654
That would just speed up the research time.
>Too noticeable
Then make it like ten cent.

>>32167696
we have to conquer planet surfaces if we want their mines, and if we want to stop a nation from continuing aggression against us.

>>32167688
True. But in the event one of the crystal aliens attempts to escape, or does escape, it'd be best for it to be unable to properly articulate its desire for revenge.

>>32167678
Because the AI is allot more valuable than the human. Hes still in control of the strategic situation. And can intervene, but it lowers processing costs to have humans do tactical decisions. It also gives our AI some human contact and new learning points.

>>32167696
Meant to link you to >>32167717

>>32167515
>Can we make a colony
You can always put them on a barren world, yes. They do not need to breath, after all. They simply require rock and dirt.

>Materials
The most common types of dirt, earth, and rock are easy for the being to break down and convert into it's own mass, however harder substances (such as ship hulls, pure diamonds, and other extremely tough materials) take far longer to break down. It can do so, but it takes much longer to process as it deconstructs the mineral.
Their signals, or rather this ones, are extremely simplistic, yet complex. Slight modifications of the tone cause the substance to react to it's core, and they seem to combine with seismic activity it creates (by vibrating) to interpret what is being 'said'.

Pure sonic communication appears to confuse the being. Seismic is needed.

As for any FTL signal, it is still not detected, and Metis assumes it does not exist. Though she will continue study, at your order, just to be sure.

>>32167719
Why waste the fuel transporting minerals from a planet's gravity well when we could get it from asteroid fields?

>>32167734
>t it lowers processing costs
human brain too slow. not a substitute.

and if it can be supervised by an AI then there is already a stealth breaking network link between AI to the droids, just with a human inefficiently in the way.

>>32167755
Hey Program0
whats the status of Rhea? out of curiosity. She expressed a desire to do something last time didn't she?

>>32167575
You make a fair point, but it is not only my time I'd be wasting, it's everyone elses.
I might do some more of that near the end of threads. Maybe remind me then, if people are interested and I'm not exhausted.

>>32167770
>waste the fuel
anon we have infinite energy foranything but FTL jumps.

in fact even FTL jumps are free for small enough ships.

also, hello, we mine planet surfaces ALL THE GODDAMN TIME?

>>32167734
We can control our entire fleet of spaceships if we want to and we have an AI just for controlling ground invasions. The human is just unnecessary.

>>32167717
>ten cents
Again, too noticeable.
The kind of fraud you're describing doesn't take a penny out of everyone's account a day, it skims the numbers that would be rounded out in a financial transaction, and places them into another account.

And remember, humans love and care for their money. Banks especially. So Goldman&Goldman probably have algorithms double and triple and quadruple checking each transaction that happens.

>>32167584
>Fade from Natural Selection
I do not, actually. Explain?

>>32167783
oh god not this again. nothing has changed.

>>32167801
Asteroid fields are still more efficient. Unless a planet has a rare material or something there's not much reason to choose it over asteroids.

>>32167773
An AI can only handle so much at a time with limited bandwidth, and VI actively rely on bandwidth to function better, but can only carry so much in their hardware. Having humans in squad command positions to handle tactical strategy will allow a much greater number of troops to be controlled at once by a singular AI.

This is important for missions lacking access to our greater bandwidth supply. e.g. if our bandwidth ships were destroyed.

The point is not to make 700 different AI to control all the troops efficiently.

>>32167808
Well if we cant figure out how to pull that shit off with our giant AI brain then whats the point of anything?

>>32167822
it's not mutually exclusive. they are two barely different resource nodes. efficiency loss is negligible.

you going to turn up your nose at a resource node and NOT exploit it because you're a gravity well elitist?

>>32167783
Hearing from Rhea isn't a bad idea. However, as much as I want to restore her, we have far more pressing Tech that needs to be worked on right now. But talking to her once in awhile isn't bad.

>>32167845
Again we have one AI to handle our ground troops. We only need one and he doesn't seem to think humans will help him much.

>>32167553
>>32167594
Agree, we can make stuff happen quickly. Just look at the anti-vaccine movement that grew up over practically a year and it was based on NOTHING.
We have a social media and comedic genius on our hand. If he can't motivate an entire people to want change within a few months, noone can. And we have some really freaking solid arguments for changing things around, such as "defend yourselves actively, or seriously risk getting curbstomped before the year is out", "no war is won defensively", and "no seriously, you will probably all suffer horrible beneath the UGEI regime if you don't put your backs into it".

We also have all the historic speeches over how all that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. We have virtually everything in our favor for making a big change in their political system overnight, to the point that they might demand a new priorities or a re-election even before the normal re-elections would be (if we're lucky).

We just haven't given him the go-ahead and the resources for a full media campaign. Of course, we should probably do that AFTER the closest attack, since we can use the money we have now to purchase more useful tech from Mol.

>>32167862
god, this whole "let's check up on X!" thing is exhausting. it is a bad idea. we only get this quest once a week jeezus let's not go talk to the amnesiac.

>>32167648
"While I may be able to alter the current species to be less then sentient, I am unable to create entirely a new species of this type with our current level of tech, I am afraid. The complexities of creating something like this would result in too many variables. I may, however, split off a chunk of these kind, and grow it to be 'unintelligent' if you wish."

>>32167654
More A.I., unfortunately, does not solve the issue. They would conflict on different matters, and compete for research resources. You simply do not have the facilities to research that much.

>>32167813
So, Program0, is something going to happen this thread? Or this cycle is going to be quiet and we just need to trigger the next cycle?

>>32167876
Your not getting the point.
An AI will still have problems with large numbers of troops. We have to stop doing allot of things when we take direct control of a droid for example.
This is just a cheap compromise for large number management later on.

>>32166706
>>Human Cyborgs & Android Bodies
Metis, what research subject would we need before we could produce cyber-brains, or android bodies as versatile and powerful as Rhea's and Prometheus's?

>>32167897
>You simply do not have the facilities to research that much.

How do we get the facilities?

>>32167813
Can't find a gif to properly explain it, but they basically teleport a lot. Have a tube:
http://youtu.be/JwVN6-wB3DU?t=30s

>>32167846
It's not a matter of whether or not we can do it- we can- but whether or not we can do it without being detected. You are suggesting we commit financial fraud across MULTIPLE planets and MULTIPLE institutions. Not only would this turn public opinion far far against us if discovered, it would eventually be found out because of how many people are looking.
Selling PA is far, far simpler.

>>32167908
How do you think, man? How have we ever obtained anything in this quest for the year+ it's been running?

>>32167854
Then why aren't you voting to start mines on our existing planets? Why would we conquer UFW planets when we can use our own?

>>32167908
Yeah Metis.

What would you need to accelerate research faster?

I know we have that Fungal Matter we been eyeing still... maybe a third research station orbiting Aquil?

>>32167199

Well thats preferable than the tech leaking.

Heres my proposal. We provide access to the armor for engagements/training, at other time the armor is stored in berths we provide them (pic related). The entire unit (Berth and X Suits) is rigged with a highly complex sensor package used to constantly keep track of the suits and to survey the area around the unit. Essentially making it so that if they wish to steal from us they will alert us and we can deal with it as we please. Also include a failsafe in the armor that will allow us to detonate it. Include a large explosive charge in the berth as well in case we need to detonate it, and the mercs. Thoughts everyone?

>>32167897
Then do it

>>32167671
Really, if you wanted to do that, it would just take a turning of tactics. You wouldn't get 100% of computers, but you'd probably get quite a few, and would allow you to take a step towards taking over the UFW.

But then again, people seem less inclined to do that.

>>32167930
we mine our planet ALL THE TIME.

not all of them have the necessary mineral deposits for Minerals: The Game Mechanic Resource.

We mine Atocia, there are mines at Dresh, we mine subsurface gas pockets off of that other planet, we do this ALL THE TIME already. didn't i already say that?

have you played this quest and its resource node acquiring ways before?

>>32167905
>We have to stop doing allot of things when we take direct control of a droid for example.
No we don't it just seems like that from a narrative point of view. We regularly control hundreds of starships with no issue whatsoever and drones are probably much easier to control.

>>32167918
So drug dealing is ok but fraud is not?

>>32167878
I really cannot disagree with this. I fully support the idea of going forward with the OS idea and political change attempts.

>>32167783
As of this moment, Rhea has taken to writing, since it is one of the few things you will allow her to do. While you do not fully understand why she is doing it, it appears to be quite harmless.

She still dislikes being held captive, but doesn't appear to remember much beyond her cell and interaction with Ophion.
Pending request for release: 529 messages.

>>32167897
"Please do so. Aside from the ethical issues, I do not wish for the Guild to be consumed by vengeful crystals."

>>32167970
This.
And keep in mind that even if Ophion and Kronos have stumbled with droid control, their bodies of choice are starships.

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>>32167944
Dammit. Heres the pic

>>32167988
I suggest we give her some literature to read to pass the time.

>>32167985
The difference is that the elite- the people with pull- don't really care about proles drugging themselves up. That and we cut down on the heroin factor in the beer after our initial horrified discovery.
If we start robbing the entirety of the UFW they'll eventually have a name to a face (so to speak), and those with power will care.

>>32167969
>have you played this quest and its resource node acquiring ways before?

Actually I've played it since the second thread. Perhaps I forgot all of the decisions we made regarding the planets.

>>32167969
Holy fuck. Your grammar is worse than fluff. I've noticed you raging all the time due to your horrendous grasp of the English language and it's annoying as hell.

>>32167988
>Pending request for release: 529 messages.
We never did tell her why she's being held captive, right? Because she was a soldier of an enemy force? Top-tier operator, fleet commander, mass-murderer, and infiltration specialist? That she wasn't killed outright because her cybernetic modifications are extensive and warrant further study into man-machine interfacing?

>>32168021
Or other entertainment, I guess. Letting her consume media is ok too.

>>32167901
One I catch up with all the questions, you will see.

>>32168029
Then rob people who aren't a part of the UWF. Also our drug is still just as addictive I think just it doesn't have all the nasty side effects.

>>32167985
Yes.

How is that even a question?

Both ethically and practically.

Much easier to hide the trails of physical goods being smuggled than the transfer of numbers from account to account, which inherently must leave a trail behind.

>>32167907
"Judging from the study on her body, Rhea's components are quite exceptional. Advanced Android, or Advanced Cyborg bodies would most likely yield such a thing. It would allow for highly specialized and usable units, not to mention make making them far easier and cheaper."

>>32167988
Allow her access to the internet without the ability to send data.

>>32167908
Acquiring more advanced research tech.

>>32167918
Ah. I see.
Teleport tech is a very valuable one. One you do not quite have access to.

However, individual cloaking tech may be easier to acquire.
Not easy. But easier.

>>32168061
Thanks, I'll just wait until then. It's getting tiring arguing with these guys.

>>32168089
that's.... that's not how the internet works anon.

>>32168089
Doesn't sound smart. Just let her receive data if we haven't already.

>>32168114
It would take an A.I. watching her and monitoring her

>>32168115
Sorry, I read that as "with the ability to send data."

I'm fine with her having a read only version.

>>32167614
Definitely make sure that it's not sentient before we start using it as fuel.

>>32167647
Agreed.

>>32167793
Wee! (Honestly thought I'd have more support, though. Noone has come out against it, at least.

>>32167854
As I understand it, we have some kind of cheap and reliable way of escaping gravity wells, maybe hover engines take relatively little energy to gain a lot of altitude.
This would require confirmation from Program0, however.

>>32167897
Less-than-sentient is good enough.
I can live with farming something with the intelligence level of an ant.

>>32167897
>More A.I., unfortunately, does not solve the issue. They would conflict on different matters
Isn't this one of the primary benefits of having more than one scientist?

One scientist may be biased, but when they all work together to falsify each others' theories and methods you get more reliable results.

We may not be able to do more experiments, but would we not benefit from having a few more A.I. that question and try to disprove each others' theories?

Like many real scientists, Metis is unlikely to change her mind on her own. A second scientist A.I. might be able to convince her however with a second theory, otherwise we risk "pet theories" consuming a lot of time and resources and turning out to not be viable.

>>32168140
Same

>>32168136
No, just mirror content in aggregate and give her access to the mirrors, if you really must indulge the brain damaged psycho.

>>32168103
>Acquiring more advanced research tech.

Can we research that? Is it an option for research?

>>32168161
Just give her read only permission.

>>32168077
We don't have access to UGEI networks.
But if we do, I will side with you whole heartedly in taking them for all they're worth.
Fuck the UGEI's pocketbook.

>>32168150
>Like many real scientists, Metis is unlikely to change her mind on her own.
You can't really assume that A.I. think as humans do. Cephalus, as s notable example, does not think like a human at all.

>>32168190
>does not think like a human at all.
Where was that confirmed?

>>32168150
Too many cooks spoil the soup.

having two engineers squabble over the single computer keyboard they have between them would be the human equivalent. you'd need a lot more lab space to separate them enough, probably.

>>32168021
Letting Rhea write and/or draw is acceptable too. It might be a form of therapy for her. Who knows, she might make a novel good enough to publish and sell. or she could make smutty shipping fics for all we know.

>>32168103
>Acquiring more advanced research tech.
Wait.

Are you saying we can research... research?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imamcajBEJs

Why was this not listed in the research subjects section yet?

>>32168184
you can't take off the write bit on a network connection anon. that is not how it works.

>>32168206
We could base another AI in where Metis used to work. If it speeds up research time I'm all for it.

>>32168255
Metis is quite capable of saturating the resources of both stations already. "Not enough AI" isn't the bottleneck so long as Metis isn't overworked yet.

oh fuck double captcha is back.

>>32168254
We're an AI we could do it.

Just create a small program that block all outward data larger than whatever the entering of urls and other simple things like that take

Going to try to move this train along and call for consensus on two issues:

1. Sell Power Armor to the UFW? (Note: Objects, not tech.)
>Yes
>Yes, but a shitter version.
>No
>Write in

2. Next Research topic?
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest#Research
Check there for a quick low-down.
I suggest either Stutter Drives, or Plasma Focusing Fusion Power.

>>32168290
you can slip information into URL requests, do you even GET and POST?

>>32168255
Eh we already have one amoral AI scientist. I think thats enough for the moment.

>>32168276
If it's a matter of giving her more BW then we should give her more.

If it's not, let's fire up the AI generator. Hopefully with a more personable scientist this time.

>>32168299
That means nothing and no one will participate.

>>32168021
>>32168056
Noted.

>Never told her
You informed her she is a prisoner due to her potential danger to your empire. While she understood, it is likely true she has become impatient.

As for the other things, no, you did not inform her of the details behind it all.

>>32168112
Apologies for my slowness, Consciousness anon. I hope to answer everyone's questions as best as I can.

>>32168150
>Escaping gravity wells
Only large ships have trouble in gravity wells. Smaller ones are easier to move.

>More scientists work together to falsify other theories
Perhaps true in it's own way, but it is also true that they would compete for resources to research (in such a limited space, anyway)

If you had solar system spanning research stations, multiple A.I. could share facilities just fine. But as of now, you have two, and one of which is occupied by many many humans, which Metis has been sharing with for some time.

Essentially, your kitchen is not big enough for that many cooks. But it will be, in time.

There is also the somewhat odd phenominon that A.I. consider age of creation somewhat important to status (Though, it is less a 'I am older and therefore better' and more a 'I have had more time to learn things, and therefore my theories are likely more correct)

So, less human arrogance, and more logic jump made by sentient machines.

>>32168165
>>32168238
As of right now, no. But it may be in the future. Rather, the facilities to do so. That is, pretty much, the only bottleneck on research I can imagine.

>>32168299
2. Fungal Matter. because that Aquil planet is getting antsy and more relevant. and it could help us understand how to control the human brain, who knows.

baring that, Chemistry II. for Apollo's sake, and the boon to gas refinement and such.

>>32168314
Fluff might. He did on >>32166101, at that wasn't even an actual vote.

>>32167944
I can get behind this.

>>32167955
I'd get behind it (not the anon you were responding to).

>>32167988
What she writin'?

>>32168043
Dude, you wouldn't speak to someone like this if you met them for real.
Why would you think it's okay to speak to them like that here?

>>32168085
Considering that we've taken the more dangerous ones off her, how much can we study them to improve our own without subjecting her to painful experiments?

>>32168190
>>32168206
Our talks with her seem to imply that she's not ready to abandon her theories easily and reasosn much like a very intelligent person would. If I remember correctly, Quantum Mechanics was more or less confirmed by Eistein when he set out to disprove it as ridiculous.

And we do have two labs, so I'm pretty sure we can get them their own equivalent of their own research bases. We're not just talking about engineers, but scientists, whose process very much relies on trying to disprove each others' theories.

Outside criticism of a design from someone who knows what he's talking about isn't something that Engineers would necessarily suffer from either (as long as we make sure that one does a project, and the other criticizes, rather than both doing the same project and exclaiming their own to be the best).

>>32168331
So did I, I was a bit distracted at the time.

>>32168299
1. fuck no
2. Hull scabbing

>>32168319
I think we should let her know exactly why she's being held captive and why she will not be released yet.

>>32168319
Can we vote to make a new research station? I'd like to speed up research.

>>32168299
>Yes, but a shitter version.
Downgraded version, we keep the best stuff.

>>32168299
>Combat Algorithms: Develop and run countless simulations, and improve your command structure to allow weaker minds (V.I.), and even minds like yours (A.I.) to control larger numbers of ships far more easily.

>>32168319
No problem Program0. I just like this quest a bit more when we're on the offensive or there are battles going on.

>>32168328
>>32168370
>>32168385
That wasn't Program0, guys.

>>32168362
>abandon her theories
what theories.

you are wildly assuming things about her when she's just basically a lean mean R&D machine. empiricism is quite enough of a critic for her.

>>32168375
Yeah. Aquil Station + Fungal Matter research = Instant understanding.

>>32168319
We should mention to Moira that we have considered giving her decking implants (with her consent) which she may (hopefully) use to interact with the Guild's AI network. Then ask her thoughts.

Also, we should task Apollo with making a Frozen Synapse-like fleet commanding game.

>>32168362
As a scientist technically I can confirm that that shit would get on your nerves real fast..

>>32168238
Research subjects is something proposed by players. If it sounds sensible enough, Program0 will put it on the list.

>>32168276
Please see the point about how scientists work better when they're trying to disprove each others projects.

>>32168299
1
>Yes

>2
I want the Advanced Combat Control thingy.

And thanks for starting a community vote, I was starting to get confused where we ended up on these subjects.

>>32168406
I understand that, but it's a good way to move discussion along.

>>32168426
I would like to second this notion of asking Moira about giving her decking implants.

And yes, it is time to call a few votes, I believe. Sorry about the delays I have unwanted company at home.

>Secondary Research Slot
Please suggest now what should fill this slot. The most popular suggestions will gain a proper vote shortly.

>Power Armor
>Would you like to use this to arm your mercenaries with the Power armor, fitted with safety measures (self destruct, surveillance device) added onto them?
>1 Yes, we need them at their best.
>2 No, a technician still might find a way to steal one set of armor

>UFW Power Armor
>1 Share tech
>2 Do not share tech

>>32168426
Since Rhea is no good for anything else, let's use her to research Advanced Cyborgs then so we can give Moira the good, seemless kinds of implants.

maybe even wireless ones in her brain so she doesn't need a neck jack port. she could think faster and work better.

>>32168319
You know since she is in the prison section (That isn't used for anything else besides for holding her and those bodies or maybe not even those as we may have sent those with Metis) I wouldn't mind renovating part of the facility so that she has more room.

Would still have cameras everywhere and might need some security drones, but at the moment she hasn't made much of a fuss and it might help with the waiting.

Getting to stretch your legs is always nice.

Anyways. Just waiting to advance to another scene.

>>32168362
>Rhea
Various things, you suspect stories, or angry notes and letters. As if she's attempting to gather her thoughts on the page, since her mind is damaged.

>>32168453
Power armor:
1. Yes

UFW Power Armor:
2. Don't share.

>>32168453
1
2

>>32168453
>1 Yes, we need them at their best.

>UFW Power Armor
>1 Share tech
Sell it to them. Might as well get some benefit out of it.

>>32168453
1
1

>>32168453
1
2 pls no

>>32168453
>2
>1

>>32168453
>>Secondary Research Slot
Woops, forgot.
Hull Scabbing.

>>32168453
>1
>2 (Sell them individual suits, not the means of production.)

>>32168453
Yes
Yes

>>32168453
>>1 Yes, we need them at their best.
>>32168453
>>2 Do not share tech
I don't want to share the tech, I want to sell it for money.

>>32168453
aquil fungus
2
2

>>32168476
Can there be a vote to tell her why she's being held captive (what she did as a former enemy, and how her implants are top-tier military technology)

>>32168453
1. Yes

1. Yes, why not they're gonna be helping secure the worlds anyway

>>32168453
1
1

>>32168453
>1 Yes, we need them at their best

>2 Do not share tech

>>32168453
1
2

>>32168453
>>Secondary Research Slot
So is voting for how to get more research slots an option?

>>32168533
>they're gonna be helping secure the worlds anyway
Anon please.

Stop lying. It's not healthy.

>>32168498
Seconding this.

>>32168453
Yes and Yes

>>32168375
It's already nearly going as fast as you could hope, due to the nature of how you're researching it all. More facilities would increase the speed less, until you had a new tier of research tech to handle it. Once you had 4-6 facilities, then another Scientist A.I. might actually help, instead of just compete, though it may have unpredictable effects with Metis.

>>32168548
Seconding.

>>32168453
2. even the worst/best DRM scheme in the universe gets cracked.

2.

>>32168426
With Advanced Cyborg Components, you may actually do such a thing.
Hell, she would most likely desire such a thing as well.
>Frozen Synapse
Er...a little information?

>>32168581
So?

That tech is already out there and thy work for us so they aren't going to be eager to betray us.

>>32168593
The intent here is to ask her character if she wants them or not, so we can decide whether or not we want to do the research in the first place.

>>32168572
So is this >>32168548 a valid choice?

>>32168314
It helps clarify positions and move the quest along.

>>32168410
Empiricisim is rarely enough for the scientific community. Falsifiability is key.

>>32168439
But do you think the scientific community could function as well as it does without the ruthless peer review, no matter how annoying?

>>32168453
Unwanted company is the worst.
>Power Armor
>1 Yes

>UFW Power Armor
>2 Do not share tech

>Write in: Sell products.

>>32168476
What, we didn't peek at them?
They could provide valuable insight into her mind!
Peeeek!
(Don't have to tell exactly what we find if it'll take too long)

>>32168548
Didn't QM answer this.

>As of right now, no. But it may be in the future

>>32168453
>1
>1

>>32168611
>The intent here is to ask her character if she wants them or not,
Program0 just answered this then? She would. Technophile.

>>32168626
No it doesn't because no one participates

>>32168630
I don't know. Link to post?

>>32168453
Research Slot:
Advanced Combat System thingy.

Would like information about how quickly it can be done. If it could be done in a single turn in the primary slot (or if it could occupy both primary and secondary to finish in one turn), I'd prefer it like that.

Unless we get roflstomped this cycle, of course, in which case it's moot.

>>32168626
>>Write in: Sell products.
as long as this *also* has a DRM scheme so only "our engineers" can repair them. and hacking backdoors of course.

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>>32168648
All I wanted was in-character response.

>>32168593
Turn based game where you plan out unit's movement, and then act and react in real time. Then back to planning.
Google gameplay videos when you can. It's how I imagine the Guild does its space battles.

>>32168453
Chemistry II? Fungal Matter?

>>32168626
>But do you think the scientific community could function as well as it does without the ruthless peer review, no matter how annoying?
Probably not but when you are a super intelligent AI It probably just gets in the way. I mean it definitely will get in the way since that's what Program0 said.
Also the last time we looked at her mind we broke it.

>>32168593
>she would desire it
Then we should get her consent, and get her to the operating table.

>>32168453
>Give your Mercenaries Power Armor has won out, with safety measures

>Sell UFW Power Armor has won
I should note, a bit of misunderstanding. You're not GIVING it to them. You're selling it to them. chances are, even with their limited scientific capabilities, they will try to learn to make it on their own when you sell it to them though.

Collecting info.

>>32168677
They'll still be able to copy the physical components, but if we make a superior operating system for the power armor, and undercut any competition I think we would have a good chance of being their sole supplier.

>>32168717
You need to research that shit first.

>>32168453
Advanced Cyborg Components---with Rhea enhancement! we need Moira Deckers... to be a Decker.

>Create a new scientist AI
"Hey Metis, we made a new AI to help you research! It's specifically designed to argue with you! Do you like it? Good, I don't care! Haha!"

>>32168756
No.

>>32168725
>chances are, even with their limited scientific capabilities, they will try to learn to make it on their own when you sell it to them though.
well in that case fuck no. fuck. make that DRM even more anti tamper then. or don't sell at all. when are they going to be in ground war except against our androids?

>>32168756
Or we could just have it do its own thing. Maybe make it more genial in comparison to the antisocial Metis.

>>32168778
They won't be fighting us.

They practically worship us.

and it already won

>>32168729
Don't forget periodic software updates and any insurance we give them.

>>32168778
>when are they going to be in ground war
Against the UGEI? Pissy Malorians? Really, any reason. And again, we still possess the superior fleet technology.

>>32168778
You know what? Lets just sell the damn things to them and stick in something that lets us hack them.

>>32168725
uh, to be clear...

...if we must foolishly sell this tech.

can we do it from another shell company and not under Guild brand identity?

as some pirate group that 'got lucky'?

and include hacking backdoors and dial-home constantly self-updating operating system out the wazoo. so it can't be used against us.