>>31921731
Reportin', Prof!

And you finally updated the opening.

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>>31921731
time for water dragon thing kill

ya know, I've given Monhun 3 tries but I never could get into it

>>31921731
Glad to be here, Professor.
I still say a master pastebin with links to all the others would help you out a bit.

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>>31921731
FINALLY, a chance to use this image at an appropriate time!

>>31921731

Hey Prof, what MonHun game would you recommend for someone who never played it? Which one is the best?

Or, alternatively, which one do you use for inspiration the most?

>>31922000
If you've got a wii/wiiu mh3 or mh3u are both solid as fuck, and more forgiving, although some people dislike the underwater fighting.
Additionally, the servers are still up, rather than jumping through hoops to play online.
The psp games are similarily great, but have a range of difficulty running from 'whats everyone complaining about' to 'oh god hitboxes why'

>>31922091

I have a wii, yeah. Also a PS3, a 3DS and both PSP/PSV.

... I have a lot of plataform options, actually. Hm.

>>31922000
>>31922091
Pretty much this. Mh3 or 3U are the newest, and have a nice balance of difficulty. The games get smoother as they go, so the newer they are, the easier they are to get into.

MHFU has probably the most content, but the difficulty is pretty brutal, and some of the stuff is clunky.

>>31922156
>>31922091
My entry was with Monhun tri. Though I've been looking at ultimate, I still need to play ultimate... And I'm really interested in 4.

>>31922186
>MHFU
That's released in US now?

>>31922156
3DS version is the same as the wiiu version, minus online capability - You can only connect locally. I tried it, but found it a struggle without the second joystick. The pad you can buy for its pretty solid though.

>>31922186
>Mh3 or 3U are the newest,
I'm confident that MH4 is the newest.

>>31922000
Don't get any of the PSP games. They cause your hands to develop into horrible jagged hooks.

The Wii games are probably the best introduction to the series, with a solid mix of difficulty, ergonomics and aesthetic.

>>31922209
>MHFU
I think you're thinking of Frontier?

MHFU is Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, for the psp. I'm pretty doubtful of the west ever getting the monhun mmos. There's just not enough market for them.

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>>31922209
on the PSP

for like years now

I think its free on the PSN with PS+

>>31922209
It always was, you're thinking portable 3rd.
MHFU is clunky as hell though.
If you can manage the DLing and patching, and don't mind rolling pack your psp's firmware, Portable 3rd is goddamn fantastic, although you're stuck with a partial fan translation - more than enough to play the game, but no story to speak of.

And 3U is wonderful, though I definitely preferred 3's multiplayer city to 3U's island hub

>>31922270
Still the coolest goddamn night fight in the games.
I don't care how unbelievably cheesey the effects were, the red eye trails made that fight.

>>31922307
I was fucking pissed at how they mutilated MH3s hubs. You were originally supposed to have 12 players per gate, but they axed it down to 4 so they could put in VOIP which nobody fucking used.

The rope goes taught as it reaches full extension, two kahkori manning a reel to lock it in place as the “fish” thrashes, pulling at the boat, yet to far less avail than such a speedy creature would hope for.

The captain calls out from the crow's nest in common, “Avast ye scurvy murkrows, the Plessie's gettin' pissy real soon! Ready a counter at the bow and port, and throw the starboard 'poon, so we can force it front!” She points to the two birds on the reel, “An' you two get to pullin it in! Me dead grandmother can pull harder than you!”

You see sailors scramble into place, some going bare-handed and others grabbing small hooks and rope to get ready for capture. When the Smolodhan party comes on deck the female shouts up in her own guttural common, “Dead or alive?”

“Alive is preferred, dead if yer skill is poor!”

“You'll see it alive then!” The female roars as she crouches down onto three, heavy blade slung over her back, and with a laugh echoed by the “kitten.”

You extend the barrels from your palms and ready yourself with the deck of the ship before you, Marine and Kurojo stand at your side. Marine smashes her shell-knuckles together and takes a low stance for the battle to come while Kurojo unsheathes his long blade, the Nar-Kage steel shimmering in the light of the day.

“Junior” steps up with his feasible cannon at his side, requiring two hands to steady, his red and yellow leathers spark now and then, buzzing with electricity as his tail flicks back and forth,”Leave this to me little ones, you'll just get in the way.” He mocks, not even bothering to look back at you.
Kurojo's feathers rustle with irritation.

>>31922455
My only issue with the VOIP was that they didnt put a fucking mic in the Wiiu tablet.

The Red Male steps up with his odd mechanical weapon humming with a steady power, his one eye shifts in his scarlet helm as his scale armor glistens like bloody garnets with the sea's moisture. He utters something condescending to the younger one, and the female takes the other side.

The weapon bearers are both in a three legged stance, weapons ready over their backs, just in opposite hands.

You hear a splash, and the monster jump in the water again, shooting out a white beam that carries on for what must be a mile into the sky and back down into the horizon. A short time later, water falls on your head.

That... was water?

Another jump, and it suffers a second harpoon as it's dragged closer, thrashing against the waves with all of its anger, it finally pounces onto the boat, bloody from a wound in the haunch, and another catching right in the muscle of a wing, yet in its rage none of that matters, it stares down the center at your formation of six, opening its mouth as it spreads out its fins...

>[] Stand ground and shoot first!
>[] Dodge out of the way and return fire!
>[] (Other)

>>31922546
So hydropump?

I'm not so sure about how quick Marine is, but she and Kurojo should get out of the way since they don't have much options for firing.

>[] Stand ground and shoot first!
Shoot out our Icicle Gun then dodge with Quick Attack. Firing into its fleshy mouth would do some damage, yeah?

>>31922546
>>31922576
Oh, how accurate is Vacuum Wave? It's more of a blunt force, right? Maybe we could tell Marine and Kurojo to dodge and try to hammer in the harpoons more with Vacuum Wave?

This will have to come after we deal with the immediate threat of fish dragon coming down on us.

>>31922546
>>[] Stand ground and shoot first!

time for street cred

>>31922546
>[x] Dodge out of the way and return fire!
Water resists Ice and Water, so hitting it with Psybeam or Vacuum Wave would probably be better to use.

>>31922546
Shoot it in the mouth and then dodge. Or jump sideways and shoot it in the side of the head.

>>31922657
That applies to dice bonus, however, not the damage we do. The icicles will do a lot of damage regardless of its resistance when they hit.

>>31922546
>2
Use dem cat skills

>>31922546
Hit it with ice, try and freeze its face before it can fire.
Close in and use breath

>>31922546
>[] Dodge out of the way and return fire!
We -really- don't want to get hit with that. Snarl at it and use Detect at the same time to debuff while we dodge and pepper it with shots.

>>31922546
>[] Stand ground and shoot first!
If we can muster enough force from vacuum wave, can we hit it with an uppercut, snap its jaw closed?

>>31922743
>>31922546
>[] Stand ground and shoot first!
How large is it in comparison to us?

We may not even need to fill up its mouth with ice. Simply hit its throat and the attack could be interrupted.

>>31922546
>[] Dodge out of the way and return fire!
>Use Vacuum Wave and aim for its mouth to prevent it firing.

Haha, hell no are we standing in front of that Plessy's water gun. It'd cut us in half.

>>31922780
>Simply hit its throat
from the inside, I mean. It's looking down on us, so we should have a clear shot.

>>31922657
IIRC, it sounded half water half dragon to me

>>31922546
>[] Stand ground and shoot first!

Try and interrupt another attack!

>>31922818
It might be pulling a Gyrados.
>part water part bullshit

>>31922818
Monhun has a dragon element and Plessy doesn't have it. It's pure water, maybe with flying type added for this because of the wings.

>>31922881
So, likely Water/Flying. In which case, it doesn't have a resistance against Ice. Cool.

>>31922780
If it's like in canon, probably around 40 feet long, standing about 25 feet high. Fast swimmer, fast runner, with a lethal water blast. I don't think it can actually fly, but it can use its wings for like... gliding? Fins induce sleep, I think.

Watch out for dem hips

>>31922818
Probably just Water. It was basically agreed that most of the monhun monsters are dragonish because they're wyverns, but that they can't all be Dragon type because it would mess things up.

>>31922546
>[x] Dodge out of the way and return fire!

>>31922902
Flying weaknesses/resistences only apply when the monster is actually flying. It's one of the weird types that don't count as an actual type in this quest.

And once they do start flying, we lose the Aura bonus...

Tabletopfag here, two sessions in and my players are elite as fuck, live capturing shit left and right. One of them wondered though, and got me to wondering, what benefit is there, if any, to only having one graft? Would 'monotype' rangers gain some form of advantage that otherwise multiple grafted people do not get?

>>31922949
>Monotype
Beyond less risk of dying on the table? I can't think of one personally.

>>31922934
I assume that the reason its weak against ice is because it makes it more difficult for it to fly. So it wouldn't really matter whether or not it was flying.

The effectiveness against flying, for example, is because of the aerial advantage. On the ground? The aerial advantage is gone. Against bug, its effectiveness is more a natural part of their dichotomy in the wild; flying creatures often prey on insects.

So yeah. Just logical reasoning.

>>31922949
More controlled evolutions.

Grafts that are present at the time of evolution can influence each other.

>>31922995
I've been considering swapping out "flying" type for an actual "Air/Wind" type.

>>31923015
Now I want to know.
>Ranger has Magikarp grafts and Mankey grafts
>Evolve around the same time
>????

>>31923046
>Rage incarnate.

>>31923042
Sure, but what would that mean?

>>31923042
Would that mean all flying types become Air/Wind type?
And if so, do they have all flying weaknesses when on the ground?
And would our final evo conflict with our typing due to that?
How would you explain dat meta? Probably Pokescience

I hope you don't mind me poking your brain a bit for fun now.

>>31922949
I've always thought that tons of grafts could make things go screwy with evolving. Every implant is another week of being out of commission when it actually gets around to evolving, and then they can have weird interactions with the other implants. Like, you may never get your fire shooting part to be the ultimate fire cannon it could have been because it started interacting with the nearby something or other so now it's not as powerful as it could have been. But then on the other hand, sometimes they'll evolve to help eachother like the Crytten+Remoraid made the freezer nubs for icicle gun.

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>>31923046
Maybe with a bit more water.

>>31923015
So for purity of grafts, one should evolve their graft to the fullest before getting another?

>>31923089
Remember that being much older than 10-12 reduces operation success rates.

>>31923080
Gyarados can learn Flamethrower

>>31923080
>Machamp
>Primeape
>Gyrados
>By our powers combined
>The earth shall burn.

>>31923106
Unless you're already a frankenstein like Koga.

>>31923015
Would it apply to every Flying type or only to some? Because a lot of them just have wings and they don't really have and air elemental thing going on.

>>31922209
Magneto dragons mother fucker.

>>31923080
No, no, there's definitely some Machamp in there.

Standing ground wins out.

>What attack would you like to perform?
I'm seeing Icicle gun mostly with a side of Vaccuum wave...

>>31923118
So if you're just oozing M-Virus from all your grafts, one more log on the Jenga tower isn't much?

>>31923137
Maybe...Icicle Gun into its mouth and Kurojo and Marine to attack its throat and jaw?

>>31923137
combo suggestion
>Launch Icicle Gun
>Impact
>Hammer in with Vaccum wave (assuming the ice isn't fragile enough to shatter)

Is this feesible?
If not, then go right ahead with Icicle Gun

>>31923137
Vacuum Wave

>>31923148
I'd get a laugh out of us grafting every possible monster we could get a hold of for our typings. We'd end up as some kind of lovecraftian nightmare of pokeparts.

>>31923137
Throw in Snarl to debuff the thing.

>>31923137
Ice Pulse?

>>31923187
We don't have Ice Pulse.

>>31923169
yeah, this sounds good

>>31923200
>Icicle Gun with a side of Vacuum Wave

Sounds an awful lot like how we made icicle gun in the first place, is what I meant.

>>31923137
>Vacuum wave
Uppercut!

>>31923234
Oh shit. I never realized.

>>31923137
Is it possible to fire our an Icicle Gun while using Vacuum Wave?

>>31923234
I think that Ice Pulse would really be Icy Wind+Vacuum wave, since VWave uses aura to punch with the air. So IW+VW would be punching with air that's really, really fucking cold.

>>31923137
Can we do that, Prof? Combo Icy Wind+Vacuum wave to make Ice Wave supah cold distance punch? You did say Ceru so ELITE that she don't need to do rolls to make new combo attacks.

>>31923259
You haven't tried it yet... That's a strange idea.

>>31923268
>Ice Pulse would really be Icy Wind+Vacuum wave
That sounds about right actually. Though mind that your vacuum wave isn't exactly strong right now.

Wait I just realized. The guy said he wanted it alive, right?
So we should be careful not trying to inflict max damage. Just to passive it, right?

>>31923293
Yeah, don't worry about it. It's not like it'd die easily from something like this.

>>31923290
Would it at least be strong enough to help hammer the cold from Icy Wind a bit deeper into the flesh of the Plessy?

>>31923290
I'm down to try Icy Wind + Vacuum Wave.
Good time to see just how fancy this aura stuff can get.

>Water gun(4): Costs 1 out of 60 water capacity.
>Frost Breath(3+1): [10 Stamina]
>Ice Ball(0.5+1): Variable [3 for small - 9 for large]
>Icy Wind (5+1): [7 Stamina]
>Crossroad Killing(3): [7 Stamina]
>Feint Attack(3) (5 Stamina)
>Nasty Plot(2): [5 Stamina]
>Psybeam(1): [5 Stamina]
>Ice Shards (2+1): [3 Stamina]
> Horn Tackle(2):(Augmented Horn Attack) [3 Stamina]
>Quick Attack(2): [3 Stamina]
>Icicle Gun(3.5): 0 Water [3 Stamina]
>Snarl(2): [free action]
>Lock On(2): Consumes 1 turn of action to take effect. [No stamina]
>Rest(4): [Requires out of combat.]

For people's reference

>>31923344
Well, maybe after this turn.

We'll need to watch for what the Smolodhan hunters do first to see whether or not we'd be compatible enough for us to start using an area debuff.

>>31923290
>Aquabatics(1): The playful dances of the water, while seemingly useless, they happen to have strange effects on enemies when they succeed.
I want to try this. We've never tried it before.

>>31923360
>Still doesn't have Vacuum Wave or Detect added to the list.
>Detect doesn't even have the 25stam cost listed down in the part where moves are listed by type.

>>31923387
Because we've never had a reason to use it before.

>>31923387
It's a bad move and people only bought it because they thought it had a funny name before Prof changed it from "watersports" to "aquabatics".

>>31923387
Let's not get into the water with the giant winged shark.

>>31923387
It's seduction anon. We don't want to be using that.

Wanderer already has enough on his plate as it is

>>31923290
Would Icy Pulse focus the entire Icy Wind down into a single punch instead of making it a massive AoE thing? Because that would be ELITE as fuck.

>Looking at all the modifiers.
>looking at third party combat.

I'm gonna do their shit in the background ffs.

You're gonna see what their tactics add to you though.

>>31923511
MY FISTS STRIKE WITH THE FORCE OF BLIZZARDS!

Rolled 7 + 26

>Icicle gun followed by Vacuum wave.

Alright...

Plesioth is crippled!
Priority move used! But Cerulean and the Smolodhan party is faster!

Aqua Jet 6
Hydo pump 10
Average +8
BOSS MONSTER +12
Rage! +6
Tenacity +6
Ingenuity+2

Crippling injury-4
Fish out of water-4

Total +26

Smolodhan assistance! +16

Kurojo uses detect to close in!
Marine follows green to flank from the left.
Cerulean stands ground to fire!

>NEW MOVE!
>Icy Wind Rank 6
>Vacuum Wave Rank 2
>= Frost Pulse Rank 4!

Frost Pulse+4
Ingenuity+4
R+2
AC+2
CQC+3

dice+1d20+31

>>31923511
>>31923558
So concentrated blasts of cold + the force of our punches? I wonder if, instead of just forming frost and ice, it'd just freeze the area it hit. Like a miniature Frost Breath.

Rolled 16 + 31

>>31923594
Ah yes. Outnumbering the enemy is so satisfying for our modifier's size.

Rolled 4 + 31

>>31923594
>+31
Daaaaaaaayuuuummmm

Rolled 3, 20 + 26 = 49

>>31923594
Counting the seven. Meant to give the enemy three total rolls.

Rolled 14 + 31

>>31923594
This modifier is going to be fun.

Rolled 1 + 31

>>31923594
Roll!

Rolled 15 + 31

>>31923594
E-leet

>>31923627
>20
Well, it got a 46. We're damn lucky that >>31923614 got us a 47.

>>31923639
dammit.

Is it being run as fails subtracting successes, or does this mess us up completely?

>>31923594
>>31923614
46 versus 47. Cool.

>>31923685
That isn't how crits work in contested rolls. A difference of 10 or more is a crit.

>>31923594
>>Icicle gun followed by Vacuum wave.


>NEW MOVE!
>Icy Wind Rank 6
>Vacuum Wave Rank 2
>= Frost Pulse Rank 4!

Which one'd we actually go with? Icicle Gun or Icy Wind?

>>31923711
That's the follow up move, apparently.

>>31923594
>Frost Pulse
Kurojo gonna be so proud!

>>31923594
Just a small nitpick, wouldn't we get +32 due to having +5 from ingenuity instead of +4?

>>31923594
>>31923781
Huh. Yeah, we get a +5 from our Ingenuity, Prof. Not sure how you made that mistake, though.

>>31923781

I Hit the wrong number there, you're right.

>>31923594
>But Cerulean and the Smolodhan party is faster!
So is this from our Crytten muscles, Prof?

Also, Icicle Gun is a priority move, right?

>>31923838
Probably also has something to do with the Plessy having harpoons in it.

>>31923838
It relies more on water gun than Ice Shard.
The dominant move in Frost Pulse is Vacuum wave.

>>31923401
Prof is slow at updating things.
Also likes to Procrastinate I bet. Here's my best effort

>Water gun(4): (Type: Water) Costs 1 out of 60 water capacity. Launch a blast of water to your foes.

>Frost Breath(3+1): (Type: Ice) [10 Stamina] Armor penetrating freezing Close quarters breath attack.

>Ice Ball(0.5+1): (Type: Ice) Variable [3 for small - 9 for large] Launch balls of ice for quick, or charged concussive strikes.

>Icy Wind (5+1): (Type: Ice) [7 Stamina] Summon icy winds for an AoE effect, turning the enviornment in your favor (and against foes)

>Crossroad Killing(3): (Type: Evil) [7 Stamina] Cause vital blow on foe without any thought. Higher ranks is higher crit damage, crits rolled by QM

>Feint Attack(3) (Type: Evil) (5 Stamina) Slip into mindless movement, unreadable before strike finally hits.

>Nasty Plot(2): (Type: Evil) [5 Stamina] Rapidly think of many ways to kill, highly raising non physical attacks

>Psybeam(1): (Type: Esper) [5 Stamina] Fire psionic beam, may confuse on headshot.

>Ice Shards (2+1): (Type: Ice) [3 Stamina] Create ice lances to throw at enemy (uses thrown weapon skill)

>Horn Tackle(2): (Type: Normal)(Augmented Horn Attack) [3 Stamina] Throw full weight in to strike with horn for damage

>Quick Attack(2): (Type: Normal) [3 Stamina] Move at fast speed, useful for dodge, or to get initiative on foes with some attacks.

>Icicle Gun(3.5): (Type: Ice) 0 Water [3 Stamina] Combine water gun and ice shard to fire harpoons of ice for impaling damage.

>Snarl(2): (Type: Evil)[free action] Causes fear which reduces technical abilities/psionic powers.

>Lock On(2): (Type: Normal) Consumes 1 turn of action to take effect. [No stamina] Ensures next attack will hit target

>Rest(4): (Type:Esper Like)[Requires out of combat.] Heals with recovery roll based on Ten score

>Detect(3): (Type:Fighting) [25 Stam] Detect intent of sentients, dodge at super natural speeds.

>Vacuum Wave(2): (Type:Fighting) [? Stam] Hit using aura from afar.

>>31923868
Ice shard is what you use to make icicle gun work.

>>31923838
Ice Shard is supposed to be priority. I don't think it ever actually was in the quest. I dunno if it transfers the priority to Icicle Gun either.

Not like it matters now, though, since we have Frost Pulse for priority Ice.

>>31923868
Uh, we DO have Ice Shard.

>>31923861
So is it safe to assume that Frost Pulse (Icy Wind + Vacuum Wave) is different from Ice Pulse?

>>31923875
>>31923876
Yo, did I miss anything Professor?
Wanna help you clean dat shit up.

>>31923875
>>Vacuum Wave(2): A quick strick that uses the air itself as a conduit for the aura. It hits quick and from afar, delivering damage. <Aura>
It costs 3 stamina.

>>31923911
cool, thanks.

>>31923875
Our iclces aren't really harpoons. They've been described as spikes and pillars before, though.

>>31923875
Priority moves should really have a priority tag on them.

And you should probably say that the detecting intent part of Detect doesn't cost anything, only the supernatural dodging does.

>>31923946
That's already stated in the move list. This is supposed to be the stamina cost list, so he shouldn't really need to include that part there.

>>31923861
>The dominant move in Frost Pulse is Vacuum wave.
Does that mean it's Fighting type or Ice type for determining SE/NVE? Ice, right?

>>31923962
Fighting and ice, but primarily fighting.

Yes, it's supereffective against ground and rock at once.

>>31923946
>Priority moves should have a tag
Oh, which ones are priority again? A list would be handy.

>>31923978
>dual type moves
Oh happy days!

>>31923960
Actually, I'm trying to make up a quick reference thingie for people to look over when deciding moves.
That and updating some things. Recommendations are welcome.

>>31923978
can Ceru learn Flying Press down the road?

>>31923983
>Vacuum Wave
>Quick Attack
>Ice Shard
>Icy Wave the one we just made
Those are all +1 Priority. Aqua Jet is also +1 if we ever unlock it.

>Detect
Is some stupidly high priority number. +4 or +6 or something. I always forget which and don't want to open the wiki.

>Extremespeed
If we ever unlock it, it's +2

>>31923983
Well, Icicle Gun apparently isn't, but Ice Shard is. Quick Attack is also priority, as is Vacuum Wave and Frost Pulse. Check Bulbapedia for any of the others.

>>31924026
It's called Frost Pulse in the modifiers Prof listed, not Icy Wave.

>>31923978
Hey Prof, is it possible to use Detect to understand what the Smolodhans' intentions are for their next attack on the following turn?

>>31924092
...that's actually a really good idea. If we can predict what teammates are going to do, we can work on combo moves with them.

Like, not just the Smolodhans, but Marine and Kurojo, or any other team members.

>>31923594
>Hydo pump 10
Holy shit. This thing upped Water Gun to 10, then unlocked Hydro Pump and upped that to 10 also?

God Damn. That's 94 Skill Points.

>>31924135
In a team with Aura users who are well-suited to working with each other, it'd cut away the time wasted in having to share a plan and just go straight to implementation.

>>31924155
Uh, no, Water Gun Rank 10 is Hydro Pump.

>>31924163
Also a good way to lead the team. Just tell them to focus on you and just from your movements they'd know what tactic you'd want to use.

The beast's fins shake violently and the Smolodhan hunting party splits down the center of the attack. Moving to flank along the sides. Red and Green running on three limbs at amazing speeds as Yellow rolls out of the way and adjusts his sight, looking for an appropriate shot.

Marine follows after Green, realizing quickly that she can't take that kind of spray. Yet you and Kurojo stand your ground, as the bird waits for the last second before the attack comes, only to twitch away and sprint toward the quarry.

You stand firm, and work out what may actually be the best course of action here... Vaccuum wave sends aura through the air, but what if you made it cold? Wouldn't that make It far more effective?
This is what you think as you chamber an arm back in Fuschia martial form. With a cleched fist you rapidly cool the air around your fist and throw it forward just as Plesioth barrels toward you, riding water secreted from its mouth as it oscillates back and forth like a frantic viper or a fish going in for the kill.

Your icy blast flies into its face, frosting over the water upon its eyes, and icing over its fluid dribbling. Finding its ride interrupted, it quickly turns a moment before hitting you, and catches you with its tail, sending you flying through the air!

From your unfortunate vantage point with the breath knocked out of you, you can see the ensuing battle unfold:

It's spin, has tangled it up further in the ropes that are still being reeled in, depriving it of its mobility.

Red comes in with his machine sword and swings it directly into the thing's jaw as it attempts to shoot off another beam, the blade slips through, even though extra parts are blown off as shrapnel trailing up the bow of the boat.

Thundering, sparking rounds are detonated into the side of the beast from yellow's gun, stopping a momentarily only to reload another shell as the thing writhes, and flails about, catching itself up further in the ropes.

>>31924202
Getting Water Gun to rank 10 doesn't turn it into Hydro Pump, it just puts HP rank 0 on your sheet. You still have to buy the ranks in it.

>>31924227
Uh, no. Getting Water Gun to rank 10 turns it into Hydro Pump.

Marine and Kurojo move in to attack the legs, while green takes a daring leap overhead, spinning her monstrous sword into a vicious helicopter of metal death with aim for the monster's wings.

As she falls, it's a savage cut that severs not just the wing, but also sinks deep into the monster's flesh. Giving green an amazing handhold as she rides the beast's back. She undoes the lower part of her helm with a free hand, allowing her to open up her maw...

Yet your concern turns to the ocean as you fly off of the ship. You need to get back somehow... You hear a call, and a harpoon is thrown your way, just barely missing you as it skirts by with a rope.
It nearly makes your heart stop as you realize just how badly it could've impaled you...

With a grab of the rope, you feel it go taught as one of the Kahkori pull you back in to stop you from flying any further away.

As you hit the brine sea, you see things swimming around you, hurry out of the way. The ship's still moving fast and you're now trailing behind it from a rope coming off of the side.

>[] Reverse your water guns and blast forward back to the ship.
>[] Start pulling on the rope, no need to risk losing your lifeline.
>[] Let go...?
>[] (other)

>>31924239
This is so.

>>31924240
>>[] Reverse your water guns and blast forward back to the ship.
Do it, Ceru. Unlock the Aqua Jet. Copy what the monster just did!

>>31924240
>[x] Reverse your water guns and blast forward back to the ship.

thar be sharpedos in them waters

>>31924258
Then that's a horrible way to do it. Having reliable low cost moves be replaced by massively draining moves means that we'll want to stop at rank 9 every time.

>>31924261
I'll say it, this option requires two hands.

>>31924275
Current's strong. they don't like it.

>>31924275
Uh, there aren't any.

>>31924240
>[] Reverse your water guns and blast forward back to the ship.

>>31924240
>Pull on dat rope.

>>31924240
>[] Start pulling on the rope, no need to risk losing your lifeline.

If we did the water jet thing and failed, we'd be stuck without a rope in the middle of the ocean. Slower, but safer.

>>31924283
You make a good point.

Plessie's hydropump is actually written as "Water Gun" now. Its watergun is renames Water Laser due to rank 10.

>>31924284
Can we combo the jetting with Quick Attack to maximize our GO FAST and improve the chances?

>>31924240
Suggestion.

Icy Wind to Freeze the length of the rope, then quick attack combined with our cat agility to run up it? Is this feasible?

>>31924240
>[X] Reverse your water guns and blast forward back to the ship.

Fuck yeah

>>31924338
Saltwater brosky. Running saltwater.

>>31924316
Just make it so that the rank 10 unlocks are variants. So it would be like

>Water Gun (Rank 10) Blah blah blah.(Based upon pressure bladder. Reduces water by 1.)
*Variant: May be used against a hard surface in combination with icy wind to generate a dense and cold mist.
*Variant: Icicle Gun: By using Ice-shards during the firing of Water Gun, Cerulean is capable of increasing the lethal damage done at reduced water cost in exchange for using up some stamina (See Ice Shards)
*Variant: Hydro Pump: Blast a massive column of water with extreme force.(Based upon pressure bladder. Reduces water by 10 or whatever it is..)

>>31924347
On the rope? Can't we just blast it with water from our mouth while freezing and running over it?

>>31924347
I wasn't suggesting we freeze the sea. I was talking about the rope. Tight-rope walking, you know. Cats have a good sense of balance, after all.

can we bite the rope (not enough to break it) then water jet our way back to the boat?

>>31924400
Or hold it on one hand and use the mouth gun + other hand to jet.

http://pastebin.com/zqxzUJPG

Alright, worked on the move list a bit more. Anything else it's missing, or needs?
I think it looks a bit better.

>>31924364
I dunno. That sounds like some wuxia-tier shit. It's a fast, moving ship, in the ocean, with all the waves, and a giant monster on the boat.

It'd be ridiculous to do it.

>>31924347
>Running saltwater.
On the...rope?

>>31924391
in order to tight-rope walk, the rope needs to be tied to two points. It's tied to nothing.

>>31924240
>start pulling on the rope.

>>31924424
obviously. the rope is in the water with you.

>>31924364
You really want to run on a frozen tightrope half submerged in tropical saltwaterr after a ship that's riding the current?

In any case, I'm seeing votes for trying to unlock Aqua Jet...

This will use 10 water out 60.

May become more efficient with more ranks.

>>31924459
How high up is the area the harpoon was shot from anyway? I was assuming it came from the top deck?

>>31924459
1d100

DC 16 below based on Tenacity.

>>31924459
since we're currently in the ocean, I'm not all too worried over water supply at the moment.

unless salt water is a no no for Ceru

>>31924459
We back yet?

Rolled 8

>>31924476
Rolling under?

Rolled 75

>>31924476
Oh god we're gonna die. Out to sea again, eaten by the monsters.

>>31924482
She's alright with saltwater. Crazy crytten+Seel biology.

Rolled 32

>>31924476
elite?

Rolled 75

>>31924476
Gotta go fast.

Rolled 61

>>31924476

Rolled 33

>>31924476
Pretty low DC...

>>31924486
Low rolls for d100's now I believe

>>31924482
Remoraid's omniguns are compatible with it since it's a sea dwelling creature.

>>31924486
I believe so.

well done anon

you showed that random number generator who is boss

>>31924459
>This will use 10 water out 60.
Are all the bladders interconnected after the evolution or something? Because we're only going to be using our hand guns for this one, I thought.

>>31924503
>Low rolls for d100's now I believe
It's low rolls for something to happen, actually.

>>31924518
They're separate. Each one has a 20/20 capacity.

>>31924476
Is this like Aura training where the number of rolls that meet the DC is the number of ranks it's gonna unlock with?

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>>31924486

>>31924559
Aye.

>>31924492
So hey, Prof. Is it possible to combine Vacuum Wave with Ice Shard and our Thrown Weapons training?

Can't be a lancer unless we can throw a spear fast enough to rip through air.

>>31924563
Cool. I thought it was going to be just like Ice Ball and only partially unlock at rank 0.5

>>31924559
>>31924563

eh

1 is better than nothing

>>31924563
Heh. I eagerly await the day that we do one of these rolls and we hit all 5 dice.

>>31924565
>lancer

Quit trying to Bad End the quest. We stopped doing the polearm thing for a reason.

Would it be possible to combo Psybeam with Snarl/Nasty Plot so that it shoots Evil thoughts right into the target's head?
I really just want something to fuck up espers directly. Oh, you want to use psionics? To bad. I'm beaming murderthoughts directly into your head.
I'd assume we'd probably need to get Goldie or Alexis or someone to help us with it, since the Psybeam is more fish instincts than anything at this point, but still. Could be cool.

>>31924609
Because we found other weapons?

Don't take that superstition seriously, anon. Be pragmatic. We want to find as many avenues to add more bonuses to our dice rolls. Ice Shard and Vacuum Wave are both priority moves, and Thrown Weapons and Polearm training would both stack nicely with Rocket and Aura Combat bonuses.

And also, we never stopped using lances, really. Our Icicles pretty much count for them.

>>31924653
no they count for gunner we are a gunner

>>31924633
Shit. I just realized why a water-type like Remoraid can learn Psybeam.

Sea-dwellers and other octopod-fish themed creatures are, bogglingly, often paired up with psychic powers. If it isn't just the psychic call that Aquaman and Namor can use, it's the Lovecraftian cults and Illithids.

>>31924675
Just like how Archer counts as an archer because he... can shoot weapons. They're ice lances, anon. Just drop the superstition, anon. It's as bad as the rumor mill anons over at the QTG.

I just realized that Mega Blastoise gets an ability that boosts all Aura and Pulse moves.

>Marine gonna git gud eventually.

Rolled 73

>>31924633

If we weren't inundated with cool shit to buy, I'd support grabbing more psybeam.

But we have SO MANY OTHER THINGS TO BUY SERIOUSLY.

>>31924806
She'll be a fucking tank.

>>31924808
We need to fight more shit.
Let's ask the Captain to row the boat in circles a few more times.
>Knowing out luck Tentacruel appear

>Detect+Lock-On
Ultimate gunner combo. What would we even call it?

With the waves whipping against your face and the roll of the sea tossing you even gripping the damn thing is difficult. You hear the monster roar as you go under a greater wave, eating saltwater as your second eyelids quickly cover your eyes again.

You need to get back in on the action!

Recalling what the monster had done on deck, you decide that you might as well try yourself, but you'll need to let go of the rope.

That's the hard part.

You bounce over another wave and take a gulp of real air before another hits, giving you a full three seconds of water before your next breath of air.

Breathing water is alright, but you weren't born a fish, ya know?

With an explosion rocking the deck, you see the monster attempt to leap off of the side of the ship, a gaping, bleeding hole where its jaw used to be, a wing missing.

With the next wave you finally let go and angle your guns back, blasting back as hard as you can to catch up with the ship. In short time, you feel a sort of veil wrap around yourself as you quick and undulate against the waves, rapidly approaching the hunting boat and sinking your claws into the side of the ship, wrapping the rope around a hand, you stick your toe-claws in the side walk up despite the slick sheen coating the boat. The monster's blood drips down the boat, languidly, even as the beast is pulled back onto the center of the ship, prohibiting its exodus.

Once back up, you can Red's sword has converted back to an axe, and Green's prowling around outside the range of the monster, staring keenly at its legs that are ever more tangled in the hunting ropes.

>>31924844
I don't think that would do anything, anon. Unless you want to read someone's intention SUPER HARD

>>31924844
Oh, I forgot, but Prof never answered my question about that. Detect lets us sense life, so we'd presumably be able to detect life behind a barrier, right? We could possibly lock on to targets even if we didn't have visual contact with them.

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>>31924844
Extreme Accuracy.

The thing pants and spasms even as a grinning Yellow loads more shells into his cannon, locking them in for the next volley.

Marine and Kurojo look to you coming back over the side of the boat with relif pouring off of their profiles. Kurojo's sword is bloody and dripping from a stroke through the monster, while Marine's left arm is a bit limp, while she's favoring her right.

The Smolodhan party look none the worse for wear. In fact, they seem to have everything in control.

But the captain, Dovahki, wants this thing alive.

> The monster is missing its lower jaw and right wing, bearing a sever burn and flesh that smells of grilled fish from where it had been. The heavy sword is still lodged in its back, with green effectively disarmed, yet continuing the fight with flames pouring from her maw, and claws gleaming a dangerous red.

>[] Next action?

>Kurojo is waiting and watching for a time to act.
>Marine's withdrawn from the frontline.
>Red is watching the monster carefully, his one eye favoring the creature's legs.
>Green is circling around to the front, ready to unleash fire and claw against the monster.
>Yellow is preparing to fire more shock rounds.
>The sailors are getting antsy, ready to wrap up the monster in rope and hook.

>The beast itself is staring at all of its adversaries, clearly fearful after its jaw has been blown off, no more water lasers being fired at anyone...

>>31924844
Deadeye

>>31924875
>[] Next action?
Can we Icy Wind the blood pooling by it.

>>31924875
Icy wind to cool the creature down, making it lethargic

>>31924862
>Detect all targets in area
>Lock On to all of them
Omnilock

>>31924875
Suggestion:
Freeze it to the deck. Like, it's soaking wet, right? Let's use ice to make sure it can't move anymore, and freeze it to the deck of the ship. This might even let them take it alive, right?

>>31924875
>>[] Next action?

psybeam?

>>31924905
mitebcool, I support this

>>31924875
It's already over.

State as much

>>31924875
It'll probably try for another sweeping trail attack, if it can.

Slow it down with Icy Wind.

What was even the effect of our Frost Pulse anyway, Prof? Aside from interrupting its attack, I assumed that, since we hit it in the eye, it was blinded?

>>31924911
Seconded.

>>31924905
>>31924914
>>31924911
The Smolodhan are using Fire on it. There's 3 of em. Our Ice probably won't last long or do much. Prof will probably even have an ICE NEGATED! thing in the next set of rolls to remove the bonus from them.

>>31924875
Is it still standing? Tell Kurojo to try and make it buckle down on one leg by attacking behind one of its knees.

Marine is resting, right?

Let's use Icy Wind.
>>31924911
If it's possible to attempt to freeze it onto the deck, then let's go ahead and attempt to do so. Maybe after its fallen down? And after green uses whatever fire attack she's going to use.

>>31924936
I thought they were using guns, not fire?
My mistake.

>>31924936
Green is the only one using fire. Yellow is using shock attacks and Red seems to be relying on his weapon alone.

>>31924936
One of them is spitting fire on it, one of them is using an incendiary gun on it, and one of them is using a fuckoffhueg axe.

>>31924936
That's a fair point.

>>31924928
Changing my vote here to:
>Use Psybeam to confuse it

We'll play support gunner.

>>31924979
He's not using incendiary ammo. He's firing "shock rounds", which I assume means the rounds 'shock', not 'burn'.

>>31924875
We could nail it with some more Frost Pulses. Or just Icy Wind it.

>Icy wind on the blood under it
or-
>Psybeam to the head.
or-
>Frost pulse barrage.

>>31925037
Can we frost pulse while using Psybeam with our head?

>>31925037
>>Psybeam to the head.

>>31925037
2

>>31925037
>Frost pulse barrage.
Eh, sure, let's go with this. Freeze it over as we do damage.

Rolled 88

>>31925037
2

>>31925037
>>Psybeam to the head.

>>31925037
>Icy wind on the blood under it
Psybeam might cause it to kill itself, and Frost Pulse just might crit into the kill.

>>31925037
>Psybeam

>>31925089
>just might crit into the kill.
What?

Aw fuck I missed near the whole thread
Where are we about?

>>31925116
he's afraid we'll crit it

>>31925037
>>Icy wind on the blood under it

>>31925156
You only missed 2 updates. Prof has been REALLY slow.

Rolled 65

>>31925089

How can it suicide with no jaw? If it's capable of killing itself it's capable of killing us. Psybeam provokes it without damaging it further. We stop when it can't defend itself to harvest as much as possible.

>>31925164
I don't see how that's only an issue with Frost Pulse. It could just as easily happen with Psybeam or Icy Wind.

>>31925116
Can't really judge internal damage done to it.

Psybeam it is.

Plesioth is panicked! It loses its turn!

All attacks hit!

>>31925193
You know that Frost Pulse isn't Frost Breath, right? It doesn't have the massive armour penetration or 100% crit rate.

>>31925205
is that because of the psybeam?

>>31925205
>all attacks hit
umm. is it still alive?

>>31925224
No. Obviously.

>>31925205
Go to sleep little monster, dream of sunshine and rainbows and MURDER

>>31925224
I think it's because the Plessy got rekt hardstyle by the Smolodahns and is missing chunks of its body that are big enough to feed a village.

I just realized something...
Why the fuck do these people want this thing alive? They don't do grafts or anything.

So, what will the other hunters have to say about our totally-not-shmolodan power set?

>>31925256
the meat stays fresher longer

>>31925256
Body parts to craft weapons and items from. The fresher it is, the better they'll be able to preserve it.

There's also the meat, you know.

>>31925256
milk?
eggs?
fresh meat?

>>31925259
Well, they already called us a "not-smolodahn". So they'll probably be all "huh. I guess she really isn't one of em."

>>31925256
Some harvestable chemicals and glands can be used as long as they are fresh.

Capturing a beast usually raises the chance of getting rare organs for use in equipment.

>>31925256
Some materials and items are easier to gather from living creatures.

Are you SURE they don't have grafts? Humans can't be the only ones who thought of it.

>>31925259
>>31925284
I guess if it comes down to it, we can just lie and say we're like... a subspecies or something. Kinda like how there's Barioth and Sand Barioth, our hip desert-dwelling cousin.

>>31925313
>Humans can't be the only ones who thought of it.

Thinking of it doesn't mean involved surgery to put them in.

Although maybe it's a magic animism thing, like taking the spirit of it?

Man are we the only sentient water types that live around here?
We're all mysterious and shit.

So who is your Ice type attack waifu?

>Icicle Gun
or
>Frost Pulse
?

>>31925388
>Cerulean and Marine are mysterious strangers.
Heh.

>>31925400
Icicle Gun is our bread and butter. She's proven herself to us time and again!

>>31925259
>>31925284
>>31925313
They MIGHT consider us prey, but the moment they realize the powers come from monsters, reactions can vary from horrified to fascinated to greed.

>>31925400
Icicle gun.

Ideally, Icicle gun loaded with FROSTSPLOSION

but that's later.

>>31925406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpoDJf6PcKk

>>31925400
Frost Breath

>>31925400
Combo them. Use Icicle Gun to shoot 'nails' into the target's flesh and then use Frost Pulse to hammer them in deeper.

>>31925423
Prof did say we could infuse our icicles with the energies from our Psybeam.

Still don't know if we can actually make them explode. I keep asking that, but Prof usually glosses over it.

>>31925450
well, actually, all I really want is a hole in the front of the frost needle that shoots cold out into the enemy.

I just had a thought.

Sheer Cold instantly freezes the area it hits to absolute zero. It's inaccurate because of the delayed point in space targeting system.

What if we, once it's unlocked, combined Aura Sphere with Sheer Cold? Freeze the air in front of Ceru into a solid sphere (air does that at abs0) and infuse it with Aura and launch it?

I swear, it's only partially inspired by Kyle's powers from Psyren.

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>>31925512
Cryo sphere?

>>31925512
>Psyren.
Still reading that, huh?

It's pretty good right?

>>31925534
Oh man. HAH.

>>31925535
Finished it yesterday.

>>31925512
That wouldn't do as much damage. It's just concussion and cold conduction, which doesn't deal as much damage as directly freezing the body.

i think it would waste a lot of stamina for an ice ball that's a little bit stronger.

>>31925554
It would also be homing because of the Aura Sphere, but I get what you're saying about it being way too much Stam use.

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>>31925554
Hmm.. I was thinking it'd be more like chilling the air to near absolute zero and then throwing an incredibly cold ball of air at a target.

Because a big ball of ice isn't going to be that effective, but I bet airblasting someone with a ball of pure cold might work.

>>31925534
this is basically what I imagine sheer frost is.

Am I right?

>>31925605
Ginger Sephiroth with a short sword.

>>31925623
Sheer Cold, you mean?

>>31925625
and when he stabs NOT Aerith, she says "is it in yet?"

>>31925605
>airblasting someone
except it's a solid block of air, so the contact surface will be smaller.

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>>31925638
HA

Dick jokes.

>>31925634
sure, whichever the instakill ice move is.

>>31925605
The air would solidify at temperatures that low. It would be better to just use blizzard.

If you use Sheer Cold, and it's not a direct hit, it will just make huge chunks of solidified air.

>>31925625
...goddammit. Battle Arena Toshinden, why are you so awful?

Actually, I tell you what, Prof. Let's rephrase this in a way you'll understand:

We could create a tiny ball of condensed, super cold air and ice shards in our hand, and then ram it into a melee target, using it to slice them apart with the ice shards.
RASENGAAANNN

>>31925718
Pls no
Pls
Pl

>>31925718
That really doesn't work out the way you're thinking it does.

>>31925718
cold and explosives don't mesh nearly as well as anime and video games say they do.

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>>31925735
>>31925740

Too late. I intend to whine for it incessantly in a certain other quest until it happens.

Of course it's not going to fucking work. It was a joke.

You steady your guns and alternate them to fire psionic energy, a glittering power distorting the air and nailing the blind monster in the head, intensifying its mortal confusion.

Witnessing an opportunity, Kurojo slides in as Yellow unleashes his volley of sparking rounds into the beast's hide, further electrocuting the beast.
Kurojo's steel-bladed sword slices both of the monster's heels, forcing it down as he slides out of the way, the glittering blade disappearing into the pitch black sheath in a less than smooth movement as he hops a few steps away from the immobilized monster.

Green watches and begins to move until Red puts away his weapon, letting her know that it is indeed over.

The monster writhes in mental and physical agony as you feel its frantic spirit in the throes of its own version of despair. As though it sought help from something, anything.

With that, the sailors descend, attaching hooks to its hide and wing, wrapping it up firmly and ensuring that it's sufficiently restrained for travel. With that, the captain steps forward and removes one of the harpoons from the beast's hide, only to drive it deep into the other haunch.
She looks to green, who's now quieted down from her battle-frenzy, “Oi, stop the damn bleeding. You blighters went and wreckt it a bit too good!”

She points at one of the ferrine crew, “Mi-mow, get some burnberries, this thing is gonna sting fer a bit.”

The cat salutes and quickly disappears into the lower decks.

Dovahki shifts her stance, a hand upon her feathery hip as she looks over your party. “Three a' you did a good job staying out of the burners' way. Good job at what you did do though. Hard t' match up 'gainst professionals af'r all.”

You feel a smudge on your elitism. You're a trained rocket. Inexperienced natives just blew you out of the water, almost literally.
Yellow gives the three of you a smug look, while Red seems to be speaking with Green about her weapon as she cuts it loose.

>>31925787
No, I'm talking about how the cold air and the icicles would interact on contact. It's not going to "shred" into anything.

Flames soon pouring from her jaws to cauterize the monster's severe wound.

They really did cut it up something fierce though... It's a wonder. If they were serious, you're not sure that you could beat them in a straight fight...

But you'd need to. You'd need to win.

Kurojo seems to be a bit miffed at the whole thing, seeming to believe that his cut did indeed seal the deal, and of course, you opened fire first...

Marine looks a bit lost in the conversation, and neither you nor Kurojo bother filling her in yet. Now's not really the time.

“Can we offer it as some o' our pay fer th' ride? T'is a fair haul I reck.” You say, in a thick accent and with some deliberate words as you're still grasping the speak of the language.

“Nay. T'is part o' yer passage. Pay comes later, l'est ye prefer t' swim.” The captain chides, as she tosses the spear over to the portside of the ship, caught by a ready sailor. “I'm return'n t' m' quarters. Fair work on a fair day though, I must say.”


The hunt is done and the haul is defeated upon the ship. The Smolodhans linger to look over the beast, examining their work. Red, is speaking in Smolodhan to the other two, seeming to instruct them and review this hunt... You could listen in, but you probably won't get much from it besides the angry stare of Yellow.

>[] Retire below deck.
>[] Pester the Smolodhans.
>[] Take care of Marines wound(If not, she does so herself.)
>[] (other)

>>31925804
>>[] Take care of Marines wound(If not, she does so herself.)
Help her with it, at least.
that is exactly what friends are for.

Rolled 35

>>31925735

This will solve Prof's quest bloat issues. Combine AoPH and DLN.

Devon gets a Ninetails Graft

Ceru is already a chubby martial artist from an esteemed bloodline

Make it happen

>>31925789
>You feel a smudge on your elitism.
ahaha, you're still a trainee, Ceru.

>>31925804
Study the Plesioth. Take pictures, note the musculature and where the water glands are.

>>31925804
>[] Take care of Marines wound(If not, she does so herself.)

>>31925789
>Dovahki shifts her stance, a hand upon her feathery hip as she looks over your party. “Three a' you did a good job staying out of the burners' way. Good job at what you did do though. Hard t' match up 'gainst professionals af'r all.”
Ah yes. I was actually planning on raising this up near the end of the thread. I knew you wanted to give some focus on how an experienced group of hunters works, but the way you went about it was rather hamhanded. I was rather excited for this fight before, but... it was pretty disappointing. I'd have to say that this was one of your more lackluster fights, Prof. It really wasn't worth how long each update took to come.

>>31925804
>[x] Retire below deck.

go to bed

sleep away the mediocrity

>>31925804
>[X] Take care of Marines wound(If not, she does so herself.)

Friendship best ship

>>31925804
Try to pick up some of the Solodhan language.

>>31925804
>3
Help and friendship

>>31925804
>>[] Take care of Marines wound(If not, she does so herself.)

Let's get some more Marine moments. I feel like if we talk to the Smores they'll just make us feel like a newb.
>>31925828
>Study the Plesioth
Ooh, I like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_xVd19vUGw