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>>30978128
>Message: Malorian
The Malorian figurehead contacts you once again after a bit of negotiation, and he informs you he had only a little trouble getting them to agree not to attack your ships. The Council is very much about neutrality as it is, so as long as you don't attack them, they won't defend themselves. Only one of the Elders attempted to push back, calling anything from human space a bad omen. His naysayng aside, the only concern you have now is the Ishtooy tribe, who do not adhere to their laws.

>New employees: Biologists
Moira has been assisting the group of biologists you've hired move into Ussaihu, and set up their equipment. She says she's a little thrilled, especially since things feel a lot less quiet down on the surface, with so many people busying themselves around the base, even if it does make concentrating on sleeping at night a little harder. With their assistance, any research subject they relate to will go a little faster.
Metis on the other hand complains immediately upon the arrival of so many humans.
"I feel as if you do not trust in my abilities Ophion." She begins. "The presence of so many organics proves as a rather large distraction to my efforts to move around the base and use it's equipment as I please. As I suspect you do not desire me to reveal myself, then you must realize how hard this makes things for me. Currently Moira tells them I am a V.I. at work on the station, but having the humans make petty demands of me like I am some automaton is growing tiresome."

>New employee: 'Reaper' Merc Battalion
Unlike any ground forces you have seen before, these mercenaries seem exceptionally well experienced, and equipped. While they hardly have the discipline of a military regiment, they are not pirate trained either, lacking the normal open bloodlust that comes with such immature creatures. Instead, they seem quiet whenever you see them, off in whatever expanse of space they are in, awaiting the call to drop.

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>>30978152
>Misc
>Moira's Vacation
A simple matter really. Just before the biologist fully moved in, you sent the woman on a few days of shore leave. In that time, you watched as she set up a large section of time in the holochambers. While you did not bother to spy on the activities she did within, she seemed far cheerier by the time she left. Relaxed as well.
>Built
6 Defense platforms, Advanced Shipyards (At Atocian I), Battle Station, 2 Defense platforms (Ussaihu), 4 Defense platforms (Aquil), 3 'Trireme' Ships, 4 'Wombat' Ships
>R & D
--Primary: Advanced Ship Modification: 55%
--Secondary: Lightling DNA: 70%
--Tertiary: Power Armor: 55%

>Warp Jump to Rane Expanse
Who will you bring with you?
>1 Kronos
>2 Hades
>3 Fortuna
>4 Any combination above (specify)

A.I. Quest
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Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits(c): 3,222,000
Minerals(M): 3,200
Gas(G): 450


You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 150/168
Bandwidth Expenses: -6 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -6 V.I. 8 'Hades', -6 Kronos' V.I. 1 'Zeus'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn, Control
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3
Automated Settings: Ship upgrades: Defense focused, Ship Control distribution: Balanced

>>30978205
>>1 Kronos

>>30978205
have metis make a vi to take care of the scientists demands

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>>30978152
>>30978205
well, welcome back Program0.
Metis: "Incorrect. I have full faith in your abilities. But the extra humans are meant to speed up the work on the slower progressing goals. If you are being distracted. i can create an assistant V.I. to be the go between you and the humans if their requests are not critical."

the mercs: "thank them to taking the contract. are your batallion prepared to perform boarding actions agienst ships and space stations? As soon as the needed intelligence is gathered. i plan for your troops to perform lighting raids on my foes."

bring
>2 Hades
>3 Fortuna
and only if Kronos wishes to go as well. i do not want to interupt any work he is currently doing now.

>>30978205
>3 Fortuna
We need to evaluate her abilities.

>Message: Malorian
Is it possible to open direct communications with the Ishtooy tribe?

>New employees: Biologists
Memo to the new employees. Tell them to respect the research AI. Its is not some mindless automation, it is a highly advanced research software that a lot of effort that has been put into.

>New employee: 'Reaper' Merc Battalion
Red is now transferred to the ground forces. They should being training in Human-Droid tactics, learning how to most effectively fight together

>>30978464
OI YOU, Shut Your Mouth And Respect My VI

>>30978205
>1 Kronos
We should probably talk to him about the other AI at some point. I think he was right when he said we uplifted the others too early. It'd be nice if he helped us raise Fortuna and or helped make Metis a little less of a bitch,

>>30978205
Also Merc, I want to begin preparations on the wiretap mission. Training the stealth ship crew on transmitter technology, developing the specialized polymorphic virus, stuff like that.

We should also develop a stealth fleet as well.

>>30978420
"Intriguing. That could solve such an issue. Still, my access to the facility feels somewhat limited this way." She sticks to. "All the same, your suggestion is appreciated. I have not tried my hand at such creation yet."

>>30978442
Happy to be back.
The troops are suited to ground combat, but they can perform boarding duties as well.

>>30978464
>Ishtooy
That would be a no. They blocked signals from your territory a while ago.
Of course, there's always hacking. But that doesn't mean they will listen.

>Biologist
You recall that the humans do not know about A.I. yet, yes? Previously you felt they would fear such a thing, and have kept it hidden.
If that has changed then that may call for a vote.

>Ground forces
Red mentions he would proudly lead them, once he has himself some solid armor to go with it.

>>30978506
With some more research into stealth technology, that shouldn't be a problem at all.

>>30978205
Fortuna, ask Kronos if he feels like coming. If he does, take him. If he doesn't take Hades.
So either Fortuna/Hades or Fortuna/Kronos.

>>30978573
We should get everyone to chip in and create a new VI. See what we get from a little of everyone.

>>30978506
a number of stealth ships would be an ideal goal. imagine the lighting raids they could pull off on various UGEI targets when they never see them coming.

>>30978573
With our current ship and human crew, do they feel confident they can pull off a wiretap mission, or what do they feel they need?

>>30978573
tell read we are about half way done in making the powered armor he wants. still, Inform him to start looking for good raiding targets for him and the mercs to hit.

>>30978599
Well first we have them do reconnaissance to scout the UGEI deposition. Then we'll advance to them marking targets of opportunity, then outfitting them with missiles to target merchant shipping.

Once we have mass produced AIs, then they can start hacking ships.

>>30978605
They may be able to do it with Red's ship

>>30978628
He says "Oh, I am damn ready, don't worry about that. Will feel good to have my hands back on a rifle."

>It appears Fortuna wins

You beckon forth one of your older V.I. to join your fleet, as you prepare jump engines to enter Rane Expanse. You know little of the system, beyond the large Gas Giants that lie within. No doubt they will serve useful, if you can manage to capture them. With that in mind, you consider bringing Kronos, but the A.I. answers your beckon.
"I am preparing my own expedition into Grinsash/4567. Our low reserves of gas being the main cause of this desire. My ship count shall be acceptable soon, and I will bring Hades along. That is, if you do not disapprove, of course." He replies with a hint of sarcasm, perhaps not expecting you to actually say no, since you have already chosen your own fleet.

You prepare to jump...

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>>30978698
Initial jump is bumpy. Something seems off the entire time you're in warp space, a few seconds at best. As the warp bubble is broken, and you come out over the gas giants, you instantly see why-or rather, don't see. Light in this sector is heavily distorted, smearing across the sky in a strange display. On one side, you can spot the gas giants, and over them, several pirate bases, yet no ships. The reason for this becomes clear as Fortuna sends a incoming message your way.
"Gravitational disturbance severe. Firing up all engines to escape event horizon." Fortuna's fleet does just that, attempting to escape the gravity that is pulling you deeper into space, away from the gas giants. The distance is shockingly close and yet somehow has not devoured the gas giants with the same rending energy now pulling your ships to their doom.

>Roll 1d100 to escape black hole

Rolled 60

>>30978842

Rolled 17

>>30978842
Did we seriously not detect a black hole?

Rolled 7

>>30978842
Try to achieve a stable orbit.

Rolled 26

>>30978842
Man, fucking space trying to kill us again.

>>30978842
Can we use the black hole as a power source?

Rolled 41

>>30978842
STAY ON TARGET

>>30978861
You did, of a sort. Gravitational disturbances, and all that.

>>30978903
I Don't know, can you?

>>30978859
Highest roll.
Here we go folks!
>Writing

>>30978903
Yes. In fact, they make great power sources, they often produce a powerful induction field that with an orbiting station, can produce virtually free power.

Rolled 91

>>30978842
OH SNAP!

>>30978983
sigh, nice try, but too fucking late.

>>30978205
>4

Kronos and Fortuna

It's good to be back and I have to say I rather like that picture. A nice improvement I have to say.

>Metis

I trust in the abilities of all my creations and you are correct in that for the moment at least we shall keep the knowledge of our existence secret.

I myself have learned how to deal with humans in various ways and I learned that I could not handle everything on my own. Since they already assume there is a V.I. have you considered making a assistant of your own?

This is also a great opportunity for you Metis. (Assuming she doesn't have a humanoid mobile platform) Have you considered creating for yourself a humanoid mobile platform? I have found that humans or others respond well to things they are familiar with and this would allow you to for the most part navigate human society easier.


(Basically: Have you though of making a V.I. of your own since they already assume one is there?

And

If you make a humanoid body and have Moira introduce you you can better navigate human society while making your presence and will known.)

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>>30978959
>>30978983
NOOOOOO!!!!!
i was too late.

>>30979008
While you are a bit slowpoke, that reminds me.

We need to make a human psyche VI. We are probably going to need one if we are planning to restore Rhea. Also, if Metis makes it, then he can push all human interaction to it.

>>30979112
A psychologist AI?

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>>30979014
this is what i get for getting dinner. sorry guys.

Rolled 56

>>30979112
A VI that serves under Metis, but learns from us, the humans and our good friend Apollo.
Learns all about humans in a way the rest of us cannot.
Good.

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>>30979163
inb4metisruinsitall

>>30979136
Yeah, kinda. But will also need to know neural science as well, to repair Rhea.

>>30979163
Any while we are brainstorming idea, we need to make a midwife VI/AI that specializes in VI/AI development, especially the ascension phase. Also monitors other VI and AI for their mental health.

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>>30978959
You instantly link up with your fleet, calling Fortuna to do the same, and move your ships out of the range of the gravity well. It's...more difficult then you anticipated. You have never encountered a black hole before, and as such, your inexperience show. Attempting to straife away does not allow enough distance, and a portion of the fleet is quickly ripped apart by the gravity of the thing, while others touch the horizon, and, seemingly, just freeze in time. You are aware enough of black hole theory to know that this is normal, and that in reality, the ship has been crushed into a singularity.

Still. You escape with the bulk of your fleet, and move into range over the pirate base.
>Lost: 5 Destroyers

The space above is hardly contested. It seems the pirates are well aware of the gravitational flux not far away from their base, but rely on the proximity to those large gas giants to keep their bases in place. Their cannons take aim to you, and register you. You suspect this is some manner of black market fuel station, judging from the look of things. You also suspect the pirates use the black hole as a dumping ground.

"Holy hell! Do you guys see that?" Echo through the communication hub. "That's a god dang battleship right there! How the heck did any of that get past our big black guard dog!" A horrendously accented voice bellows out. The station itself appears to be fitted with weaponry as well, as you move in. They're prepared for a fight, but not much of one. It should be relatively simple to defeat them...

>Combat?
>Hacking?
>Roll 1d100 for either or!

Rolled 1

>>30979206
>>30979197
>>30979163
Make Twins.
Name them Castor and Pollux. They're all about life of different kinds, and it fits with the naming theme.
>>30979241
Hacking. Ask Fortuna to join us, she should experience hacking as well. These are just pirates, we can tutorial her through it.

Rolled 11

>>30979241
hack them defense stations mate

Rolled 70

>>30979241
open comms and tell them that this is ours now

Rolled 100

>>30979241
>Hacking
Also intimidate them:
"How long do honestly you think you can last against us? Give us control of the station, and we'll let you go. Hell, we'll even pay you."

>>30979279
GOD DAMMNIT, THE DIE HATE US!

Seriously, how does this quest get so many ones?

Rolled 41

>>30979241
>>Combat?
Open up with missiles.

>>30979241
Attack? More like ask them to surrender to save us the trouble.

>>30979321
I
Just
Did we fuck up so bad that Fortuna came in and fixed everything for us?
What.

>>30979279
>>30979321
I...uh...
what the hell...
Well, okay then. Stuff is gonna happen now.

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>>30979343
And the die mock us.

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>>30979241
>Hacking?

they used the black hole as a defense. cunning. hells bells, we could study the hole and build better gravity based tech.

>>30979377
Gravity on a fundamental level is hard to study. Hell, we had to build a huge ass particle accelerator to even get close to studying it.

>>30978152
>Currently Moira tells them I am a V.I. at work on the station, but having the humans make petty demands of me like I am some automaton is growing tiresome."

whip up a VI face to handle the human side of things so Metis can get back to thinking.

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>>30979321
>>30979343
Program0, i think we just got new employees.

>>30978152
>>New employee: 'Reaper' Merc Battalion

build robot battalion and have our new workforce beginning training them in combat. Run warfare games to test their mettle against your own metal as it were. We may beable to have overwhelming numbers but I want better for our combat robots than LEL STARWARS DROIDS HURRRDURRR CANNON FODDER

>>30979339
I hope not. She sees us as a god and is sort of impressionable right now. Her mind is very empty. I don't want her first sentient thoughts about us to be "Man, the Creator fucking sucks encrypted data strings at hacking."

>>30979459
really only the B1's were fodder

>>30978205
>large section of time in the holochambers
are these expensive to build and maintain? if not get appolo on creating resorts for humans to come spend money at.

>>30979399
but now we have a full sized black hole to work with. better sub space/hyper space FTL communication. better warp drives. gravity weapons even! oh the possibilities. it will just take a long time to crack those nuts. and we need to open up the preliminary tech too.

>>30979377
Actually, the defense point is pretty good. We should build up this area and move our capital here. This areas is really defensible.

>>30978573
>"Intriguing. That could solve such an issue. Still, my access to the facility feels somewhat limited this way." She sticks to. "All the same, your suggestion is appreciated. I have not tried my hand at such creation yet."
OH MOTHERBOARD GUIDE HER IN HOW TO DO IT. DO NOT WANT KRONOS BEGINING SENERIO ALL OVER AGAIN!!!! ABORT ABORT ABORT

>>30979533
You have a good point.
Make Apollo babysit.

>>30979533
>>30979544
No, make it Metis responsibility, and warn her of our Kronos issues in the beginning. We will not be happy if research slows down due to human causalities.

>>30979586
And what?
Expect the apathetic AI that doesn't really care for us, and pretends humans don't exist to go out of her way to do anything that isn't science? We need someone to be with it so it gets a good old dose of morality. Kronos has some, Apollo has some, we have some, and we should make sure that if Metis isn't having any, at least her VI's will.

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>>30979241
You decide that such a small base is an excellent place to tutor one of your oldest.
"Fortuna. Open up their communication network, and force their arms to surrender. I desire to speak with them. This is a good exercise for you, as well."
"Of course Great One. Fortuna shall do." She echos proudly, and you sense as you attempts to do just that.
"This station is now property of the Guild, as order by the Guild master. You will not last against us. Surrender, and you shall not be-" You attempt, sounding as intimidating and threatening as your booming voice will allow through the communications hub. The human in charge there, you assume, a backwater looking pirate human, with a scarred face that looks as if he's taken far too many strikes to the skull. He should be easy to-
"Master Ophion, Master Ophion!" Fortuna echos suddenly, alarmingly worried to you. "The hubs are rejecting the code, my ships are not responding, I can not-" She attempts to explain, but your reaction isn't needed. Metis' reach is felt through you all of a sudden, as she sees to seize control of the A.I.'s bandwidth at your side.
"Such a waste." She exclaims, before swiftly righting whatever chain reaction Fortuna created, ridding the response virus no doubt hardwired into the system, and forcing control over the pirate's station before much of a shot can be uttered. Your familiar blue glow takes control over the holo-display, and you're greeted with the sight of what you could essentially call a fuel rig. The place is filled with burly pirates, many with no where to go you suspect because of the black hole, all reliant on the station to keep them afloat.
"The what now?" That accented man begins again. "That don't sound like a UGEI fact-ion. How bout you shut the hell up and get outta my space!" He responds with a yell, obviously far too slow to realize it was all over already.

>Control gained.

>>30979487
They come standard with most human stations. Civilian quality ones anyway.

>>30979459
Rather spend the time drilling the humans in human-droid tactics. Make sure they can work effectively together.

Also, we should build a droid factory to mass produce the humanoid droids to develop our massive army.

>>30979643
I want Metis to have practice rearing a VI. Would be good for her development.

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>>30979524
um. we put in sensitive things here. NOT our capital or main stations. a screw up means we lose our ships or stations into the event horizon.

>>30979241
Ask them to negotiate their surrender and offer them citizenship. Our offer is essentially that they go legit under us, or die.

Also, thankyou for running tonight, Program0!

>>30979673
>Also, we should build a droid factory to mass produce the humanoid droids to develop our massive army
I want to completely go fully Starwars: Genoisis with this. Massive world devoted to be droid foundry

>>30979673
ya having both fleshies and droids working together will make are force overall more powerful

>>30979666
T-Thanks Metis?

>>30979678
like continuing research into the fleshy/fungal/crystal beings.

Also research on black-hole power? FUND IT

>>30979728
we if have the commando droids from the show then I am in

>>30979666
>They come standard with most human stations. Civilian quality ones anyway.

a thought to develop later then...hurm...

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>>30979666
Well, that was... unexpected. a good result, but unexpected. do they have no ships? rummage though their data bases.

>>30979524
A note on having a black hole nearby
>Prevents small ships from entering anywhere nearby, engines not strong enough to stop sinking into black hole
>Too many structures would begin drifting towards the black hole. Construction in orbit is sadly limited. On the surface, it is blasted with gamma radiation occasionally.

>>30979666
"It would be more accurate to say that we are at war with UGEI.

This space holds gas giants. The Guild intends to mine them for gas.

As of now, you have three choices. Join The Guild, die, or leave. I think you will find that the benefits of joining are many."

>>30979824
Black holes don't suck. As long as something is in a stable orbit it'll stay there forever.

>>30979673
>>30979728
Can we make Metal Gears?

More specifically, RAY-esque synthetic muscle fibre organic-inspired ones.

>>30979760
MagnaGuards and other IG-series too.
Those things were invariably badass.

>>30979666
To Metis:
Thank you. You assistance is always appreciated. We can always rely on your superior intelligence.

The station:
Lock the humans out of any controls, systems, and generally away from anything they can manipulate. The droids will board and secure the humans.

>>30979833
Supporting this as well.

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>>30979759
yea, the dangous bio tech should be done here.

whoa! remember Zero Point Modules from Star Gate show? we could research them here!

for those who don't know about ZPMs, here.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Zero_Point_Module

>>30979728
Me too.

But not humanoid droids - they are terrible.
We will have swarms of kill-teams of spider droids stalking the battleground, nigh-impossible to hit and nigh-impossible to escape.

We'll have larger hoverdroids carrying antimateriel rifles, and legions of tanks, all of which fire with an accuracy that makes the concept of "pin-point" seem clumsy.

Our mooks may be cheap, but they can and will be a damn sight more deadly than either tincan, clone, or freakin' jedi.
They're simply too limited by being bound to a humanoid form that processes time in the glacier of one second per second.

>>30979868
magna were pretty good fighters but the commando droids were pretty badass as well

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>>30979875
>>30979824
thank Metis for her assist.
we could build stations much further away for safety.

i wonder if the UFW has any bounties on these pirates.

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Oh Fortuna, your name is always appropriate.

>>30979824
Enough room to build some gas mines, right?

>>30979855
You mean Gundams, right? Because with Power Armor being researched, this is where we're headed. I don't know exactly how to feel, because so far this quest hasn't gone full anime, but giant fucking are something I like.

>>30979824
Small question, are bandwidth blocks vulnerable to gamma bursts once properly shielded?

>>30979759
>>30979878
Ah, good point. Perfect place for dangerous bioresearch.

>>30979909
The point for humanoid is to have a massive occupation army. Humanoid bots will be a bit more comforting or less freaky than other bots

>>30979824
>>30979853
What this guy said.

It's no different from orbiting a star.


The initial entry might be feasible if they came out a few mere thousand kilometers from the Event Horizon, but after that a stable orbit should be routine to establish unless you want to add something new to black holes in this universe.

>>30979918
Not so interested in bounties. Try to recruit or hire them.

>>30979909
if all are droids look like death that will fuck us over in the long run

>>30979922
what how do you get we are gonna make gundams from us going for power armor

>>30979878
To be honest, I would expect a space-faring humanity to already research zero point energy if they have access to black holes. But I guess it depends on the setting Program0 has created.

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>>30979922
Gundams need pilots and plot armor. i would settle for battletech kind of droids.

>>30979954
I can agree to Judge-Dredd style cops for occupation and civilian interaction, but those should be in contact with/in charge of and travel along with proper combat droids.

You don't send a man to do a machine's job, and anything beyond law enforcement is strictly the dominion of machines. (At least until we can genetically engineer some creatures to be just as sturdy - though at that point the line between android and organism gets blurry)

>>30980010
Apparently, MS are giant power armours.

>>30980021
to be fair, it WOULD be the ultra high tier technology to figure out to make. people might not have reached that yet.

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>>30979689
No problem, I usually run Fridays.

>>30979728
Droids everywhere. Not a bad idea. Might as well use the space planetside for something.

>>30979808
The most extravigant, as you can imagine, are much more expensive, but have a far greater variety of simulations to run. Such as living an exact moment in time over, any food designated to your specific tastes, a peaceful relaxing evening on a sunset kissed beach with your lover and even sex

Those would be the most exceptional devices of course.

>>30979810
Most of the pirates here were dropped off, or stowaways, so they got left here by larger ships. No real ship on the station itself.

Seems there is support for asking them if they want to leave, join you, or die as per >>30979833. If there are any additions to that, put them here, as I start writing next post.

>>30979853
I was under the impression orbits decay when larger gravity sources come by.

>>30979855
You can. More android research required. But you can.

>>30979922
>Enough room for mines
Yep. Just not many defenses (caps at 5 platforms, no shipyards)

>>30979954
Actually I should ask that. Is there shielding today against gamma rays like that? I'm honestly not sure.

>>30979957
It has it's own star, but the black hole is 'passing through' so to speak. So it's sorta messing up the orbit, is what I meant to imply.

>>30979922
>giant fucking are something I like.
giant fucking robots

Words are hard.

>>30980010
>>30980028
Yeah, mobile suits are like big power armor, but in space. They are also usually pretty stupid. That said, wiring someone like Rhea into a mobile suit might be cool. Impractical, but maybe cool.

>>30980091
>I was under the impression orbits decay when larger gravity sources come by.

Nope, orbiting a black hole would be no different than orbiting a very large star. When a star turns into a black hole it doesn't add mass.

>>30980044
dude if we had droids that were like the B2 or fuck the B3 they would overrun pretty much anything in this setting that has been shown so far and maybe you should think about PR

>>30980121
To be fair, they can be a good median between orbital ships and ground forces. Basically space marines that can reach orbit as well.

>>30979985
Not all, but I see no reason for the BATTLEdroids to be limited to the humanoid shape just to comply with the sensibilities of the people we're killing.

Any benefit they might get from being "spider-shaped" instead of "human-shaped" will no doubt be small enough that it's debatable whether it's even there, while the cost of having such inefficient droids for battlefield usage will be immens.

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>>30979922
>You mean Gundams, right? Because with Power Armor being researched, this is where we're headed. I don't know exactly how to feel, because so far this quest hasn't gone full anime, but giant fucking are something I like.
Nah, I mean pic related.
Gundams are fine too, of course.

>>30980121
no Gundams are huge exosuits
>>30980164
no one said they have to be only humanoid just your bitching that we should never have humanoid things
>>30980174
I like me some METAL GEARS KAZ

>>30980091
with this victory, we could push on towards the Klintok system as well.

orbital decay can be countered if planned for. the gamma rays could be shielded if normal stations keep their shields up as normal. other wise, the station could be heavily lead lined.

if the black hole is 'passing though' this system is going to be wasted. by tossing planets and the star out of alinement. those pirates better begging us to save them. this place will not be safe for them. OR, this could be a 'stable' binary system of a large star and black hole system. those things do exist.

>>30980091
>It has it's own star, but the black hole is 'passing through' so to speak. So it's sorta messing up the orbit, is what I meant to imply.
The proper technobabble in this situation would sound something like

>there are many gravity perturbations in this system, from erratic and unstable orbits due to the collision of two star systems.

The number of things flying around this system might limit the number of stable orbits that are available.

>>30980091
We can also tell them about the benefits of joining, if they like. They can continue running their little pirate outpost here, whatever. We just want the gas from the gas giants. Also no UGEI and no hostilities here, and no hostilities or support of hostilities against any of our partners/allies/constituents. They get access to trade.

>>30980091
>Actually I should ask that. Is there shielding today against gamma rays like that? I'm honestly not sure.
Besides a shit load of lead? No. But just about any mass will shield gamma ray radiation. We should deploy a borrowing droid with sensors to see if this planet is fit for data bunkers.

But to be honest, if this black hole is emitting gamma ray bursts, then its shit for data transmission.

>>30980280
That is a good point. If these humans survive the gamma ray bursts, then we should be fine as well. But still shit for data transmission.

Also, agree with pushing to the Klintok system. Or prep for the wiretap mission.

Did we share the stealth tech with the UFW yet? A stealth fleet would be useful.

>>30980164
Humanoid (roughly, at least) isn't actually a particularly bad body shape for combat, it has high elevation for its cost which is useful in environments with multiple layers, has exactly the right number of legs required to stay balanced, has a head on top of the body which in a robot could concievably swivel 360 dgrees and compared to spiderbots of similar size would take less resources due to having less legs.

>>30980164
Well we need a couple different specialized ground forces.

We need highly efficient kill bot teams.

We also need occupation forces once we take UGEI planets. The occupation forces will have to be fucking huge number of humanoid bots.

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>>30980309
Then the bunkers probably do shield. They're meant to protect against most hazards that way, anyway.

>>30980296
That's probably my bad then.
>Shit is flying everywhere yo
Is probably more accurate.

>>30980091
"I think you should take a closer look at your console, Sir." You explain to the pirate...chief? Captain? Commander? King Pin? You don't really know, or care what to call the bumpkin. It likely doesn't matter for long either. This system is proving quite the mess, judging from the level of gravitational distortions flooding it.
"The heck you mean-" He growls, glancing at the numbers, and realizing that his station is now actually yours. "What!? The guns didn't even open fire! How didja even manage ta do that?!" He yells at your shifting orb, demanding an explanation when you need not offer one.
"It would be more accurate to say I am at war with the UGEI. However, this space holds valuable sources of gas. And I desire that gas. Regardless, that is irrelevant. I suggest that instead, you consider your options. Surrendering to me, and leaving this place via a ship I provide. Joining my growing nation. Or." You add, letting the door to the Command deck slam shut behind him to prove a point. "Death via suffocation. It is your choice." you explain simply.

>1d100 for diplomacy. Also begin discussion for where to go next.

>>30980356
You did not share such technology.

>>30980479
we need B1's jokes and all

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>>30980091

>Actually I should ask that. Is there shielding today against gamma rays like that? I'm honestly not sure.
Yep, gamma rays are defeated by a paper-thin sheet of carbon, if I remember correctly.

>It has it's own star, but the black hole is 'passing through' so to speak. So it's sorta messing up the orbit, is what I meant to imply.
Orbiting a two-star or one-star one black hole system shouldn't be too difficult either - planets do it regularly.

So far, it makes sense though. Coming too close to ANY heavy body like a sun or planet is generally going to be a bad day for any ship not designed to be able to operate within the atmosphere of a planet.

>>30980139
The B2s aren't all that impressive by sci-fi standards, honestly. They're meatgrinder mooks.

What I was thinking is essentially a headcrab that never stops jumping, jumps a LOT faster, and shoots at you with mathematically perfect computer-accuracy all the while.
And if you're carrying small-arms proof armor, they have a small demolition charge on their bellies, just to make your day extra happy.

And I honestly don't see how making our hyperefficient killer robots less bad PR because they look human (do you remember that day when people feared tanks because they weren't humanoid? Me neither) is going to work, except that our enemies might fear them less because they're simply less efficient.

Even then, I'm fairly sure that intimidating enemy soldiers into surrendering is preferential to PR compared to slaughtering them with ethnically appropriate murder-machines.

>>30980224
I got the impression that legions of humanoid droids implied that they'd be a military force, not police officers.

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>>30980493
dice don't fail me now!
if these roughnecks are smart, they would pitch in with us.

>>30980548
B2's are fucking scary they tank blaster bolts like a boss and have an lmg on one hand and a rocket luncher on the other one

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>>30980493
I feel obligated to roll.

>>30980412
And that is why they are headcrab-sized, not human-sized. The bare minimum that's necessary to carry a small-arms gun.

That way we can create 2 or even 3 of them for the same price as a single humanoid - they also won't be incapacitated if you take out a single leg and present a small, fast target.

>>30980479
I don't know about huge - a few thousand in charge of perfectly human police officers should do it just fine.

If there's a rebellion, then you bring the military forces out.

>>30980548
play starwars RC and tell me B2's are not fucking scary in combat

>>30980626
Don't forget their variants, jetpack B2s, vibroblade B2s, etc...
Though only the B2Xs have rocket launchers iirc.

>>30980548
I see. Well that's good to know then. I was worried I horribly misunderstood how gravity works for a minute there.

>73
Not bad. Here we go.

"I uh...I see. By Jesus, Mary, I ain't seen any sort of attack like that before. You didn't even have to shoot us! And what's that you said about the UGEI being at war with you? Just who the heck are you anyway? We don't get much news out this way ya see."
With that, you explain, briefly, the history of your organization, and your intentions. He seems less angry now, despite your work in handily defeating him. Then he replies.
"Well heck. If you're part of some big or-gan-ization, then I suppose there ain't no point in fightin' it. We'll just get outta your hair huh?" He grins sheepishly to your screen. "Eh...I don't suppose you'd consider offering a bit of pocket cash for a couple of nomads without'a home now, would you?"

>Pirates asking for pocket cash (100,000c)
>What do you say? Some combination of the words 'fuck' and 'off'? Or do you let em have it because 'hey we're rich.' Up to you!

>Also begin discussion for where to go next.

So, guys, where to next? From the map, Klintok is right there, but that's where Kronos was going.

>>30980694
Offer them 100,000 credits worth of Ophion Bucks, which can be spent on goods manufactured by the Guild.

>>30980694
Eh, give them the pocket change.

Maybe even direct them to our "Pirate sanctuary" as one might call it.

>>30980694
Offer them booze instead.

>>30980694
COUNTER OFFER!
i pay you a wage after i add some of my droids onboard. then you will work for me to keep my station operational.

now tell me, who else comes by here.

>>30980694
Offer anyone who has skills possible employment.

That said, 100,000 credits and shipping them off to somewhere is acceptable by me. Good publicity, PR, whatever you want to call it. If these guys get around, we could boost our reputation. Tell them to stop pirating, because if they want to pirate in this sector, we'll know. If they shoot first, they will probably not be left alive.

>>30980796
Let them leave, we can run this station better than the fleshbags can. However,

>now tell me, who else comes by here.

Is a good thing to ask.

>>30980669
>And that is why they are headcrab-sized, not human-sized. The bare minimum that's necessary to carry a small-arms gun.

While doubtless very effective against lightly armoured infantry, I highly doubt this design can stand up to anything else. LMGs or other automatic weapons would scythe them down quickly.

>That way we can create 2 or even 3 of them for the same price as a single humanoid - they also won't be incapacitated if you take out a single leg and present a small, fast target.

Sound logic, though a canine/feline quadrupedal shape would likely be better for speed, use spiderbots for terrain navigation or stable heavy weapons platforms.

>>30980828
see this guy knows his shit

>>30980828
this sounds much better then having spiderbots that blow themselves up

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>>30980814
well, if they do leave, where do they go? if they do go to some place we don't control. they may talk about our system grabbing. either we keep them here, or move them to the Dresh system and drop them off there. we sure can not afford the UGEI hearing about what we are doing. oh yea, ask them about the next system over.

>>30980894
what about scorpion type chassis? they have a built in hard point to mount a heavy gun and can navigate rought terrain.

>>30980694

"If by 'pokcet cash' you mean the money you have on your person, then that is acceptable. Otherwise, your life is more than enough. You did, after all, attempt to attack me."

>>30980694
>Pirates asking for pocket cash (100,000c)
Pay them off, move on to the next system.

Ideas on what to do next:
Klintok
Wiretap mission
Aid the Malorians recover their lands.

>>30980992
dude I love scorpion tanks from wasteland so I am down for scorpion droids

>>30980741
I like it, supporting.

>>30980992
Not quite as good as you'd think, the scorpion's tail is not built to withstand recoil (the opposite, actually) so we'd have to incorporate something to lock it into place, also the scorpionbot isn't exactly the right shape to mount a swivelling turret, so it'd have to turn its entire body to switch targets.

That said, it has potential, I say we mount shrapnel cannons and heavy ballistic shields on the 'claw' arms, and some kind of heavy laser or other recoilless weapon on the tail.

It also has the distinct advantage of being really, really cool.

>>30981047
we take Klintok, then move on to the wiretap mission. man, our Mapanon will be busy for awhile updated the chart.

>>30981150
the tail itself could turn to give the gun more of a firing arc. but i can see your point, the tail will take some serious work to make it stable. it has serious upsides. oh, if we mount a laser cannon on the tail, it will give us far less recoil too.

>>30981150
Also, it could hold some of Subroutine's exploding mini-spiders, with the right explosive they'd be pretty good anti-armour weapons in a high-cover situation, sneaking up on enemy vehicles and detonating on their weak spots.

>>30981168
Kronos was going to Klintok.

>>30981222
Having a more mobile tail would sacrifice a lot of the armour available in a more rigid version, which in a body part that's going to be exposed high above the rest of the droid and *mounts the main gun*, is probably a bad idea.

>>30981236
What if we stuck guns on one of the teraforming droids?

>>30980694
>Sorry about that delay, got me some dinner.

>>30980796
>>30980814
>Who else comes by here?
"All manner of folks!" He says quite proudly. "In fact, I reckon we got some of the best contracts this side of the Fringe we do!" He grins. You roll through the financial records and realize either the man is lying, or is an idiot. The most recent purchases were by small gatherings of pirates, who claimed to be 'big pirate members' but, judging from the specs of their ships, were just passersby. Perhaps they were ferry men, you think, but it's hard to be sure.

"Very well." You start suddenly, as you breech the topic of whether you'll pay them or not. "However, be aware that your pirate activity will not be tolerated. Our defenses will shoot on sight if you try such a thing." With that, you send a email to the entire staff, offering employment to those who have skills at the colony out on the Dresh Independent world. You suspect a small portion might take it up, but the others may simply fade into some other pirate group. Either way, you pay them to help them on their way. You figure it will be good word-of-mouth for your empire.

>>30980828
I believe you're correct. Spiderbots are meant to be light shock infantry as it is, and while hard to hit in the first place, aren't terribly durable.

>Canine or Feline quadrupedal
That is interesting. I like it. I think I shall add that to a list of android design styles.

>>30980992
I am definitely okay with 'spiderbots' having scorpion tails. No reason to make them entirely different designs I reckon.

Now
>Head off to...
>1 Klintok (Go with Kronos)
>2 Go elsewhere (pick)
>3 Do other mission I had in mind...(what was that?

>>30981333
Scan their station(s) for any Watcher units.

Determine origin of station.

>>30981333
Can we set up a gas refinery here?

>>30980626
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>>30980686
Only a "dangerous but defeatable" level of scary, and only to clones. I don't want anything but our heavy infantry droids ever having to tank shots (and even they should be quadruped at least for stability).

>>30980828
I refer you to my earlier description of these things as "headcrabs on speed that never stop jumping". They're meant to be far too fast and unpredictable in their movement for any being processing at human speeds of consciousness to hit them except by accident - a human-manned LMG should stand no chance and be flanked in short order.
The design also incorporates a small demolition charge (can be detonated either while on the droid, or simply be stuck to the enemy followed by the droid jumping away again) on the belly to handle anything immune to small-arms.

>Sound logic, though a canine/feline quadrupedal shape would likely be better for speed, use spiderbots for terrain navigation or stable heavy weapons platforms.
Eight legs aren't quite necessary, spiderbot was meant to imply a six-legged spiderbot (to leave room for stabbing implements and manipulators in the front pair,

I do agree that the faster long-distance running of a canine shape is tempting, and we may well make such a droid, but when designing the spiderdroids I was looking for something that had optimal omnidirectional maneuverability, not running speed - but I do appreciate your candid and constructive criticism and suggestions.

Will link the current spiderdroid design shortly for reference.

>>30981427
B2's killed jedi in fact if the contossis B2's had been made in numbers order 66 may not have been needed

>>30980828
>>30981427
Name: Terrachnid (Name Pending)
Chassis type: Arachnid
Size: Tiny (cat sized)
Status: Standby
Weapons: Taser(nonlethal) Laser (Main Slot can equip small arms), Dagger-Like Forelegs
Defense: Light Plating, Survival mode allows protection of delicate instruments.
Primary duty: Stealth and Recon; if properly equipped can serve as cheap ground forces using Swarm Tactics, Assault and Ambush.
Intellect Level: None (Requires bandwidth to operate)
Equipment: Rubber tip to legs (stealth purposes), Wheels for faster speed down long flat surfaces, Adhesive allowing wall climbing, Dagger-Forelegs have small manipulator-claws/hands - for carrying, picking up or any other case when a hand is necessary - attached to the last joint.
Future equipment: Miniature Demolition Charge for heavily armored targets - meant to be deployed (stuck) and detonated in a split second without damaging the droid itself.

>>30981427
>I refer you to my earlier description of these things as "headcrabs on speed that never stop jumping". They're meant to be far too fast and unpredictable in their movement for any being processing at human speeds of consciousness to hit them except by accident - a human-manned LMG should stand no chance and be flanked in short order.

Alright, and how do you propose we make these? These things around 1/3 the mass of a human that somehow move so fast humans can't even target them?

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>>30981333
Scan the whole station, top to bottom for any sleeping watchers.
then see if Kronos wants some company in Klintok now we have this system under our control. other wise we can check in with the Kraken nest to see if it's still there, or we prepare ourselves to deal with either the shark people or poke the UGEI.

>>30981333
Wiretap mission.

>>30981333
>3

Finally get around to bombing the shit out of that planet with the fungus.

>>30981620
making enough fungicide to completely cover a planet will take some effort. but it should be worth it.

>>30981530
we can't they would work better for sneaking up on HVT and demoing them

>>30981620
But we still dont know if we can use it for shit.

>>30981372
That shall be auto started, don't worry.

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>>30981536
You do a quick scan on the station's make, and it actually seems like it was placed ages ago, though by who is unclear. Whoever put it here, it has exchanged hands many times.
>Scan for Watchers
Give me 1d100 then.

>>30981530
... We already have them.
We've made several batches of them and a dozen are standard in every boarding torpedo.

And for reference, you don't need to move particularly fast to make a human unable to target you with direct-fire weapons when you're having a computer do the maneuvering - it's not that mean a feat on this scale.

Presumably, the UGEI will have to use their own robots, cyborgs processing combat at the rate rate of computers, or genetically engineered organisms that do the same.

At the scale we're working on, anything that experiences time at the rate that a human does (1 perceived second for each real second) are pretty much obsolete as viable infantry on the battlefield once we start bringing our droids around in number - they just can't target or think quickly enough.

We make humans obsolete on the battlefield, the same way the machine gun made mass-charges obsolete in World War one.

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Scanning.

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>>30981801
Scan this station good.

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>>30981801
scanning. does anything show up on the station's data base?

>>30981824
...
Program0, can you confirm that we do in fact have spiderbots that humans are physically incapable of targetting? Because that seems a bit OTT to me.

>>30981801
While we are on the topic, Program0, how much would it cost to make a droid factory and production an occupation force for Gaia? Would a million droids be enough?

>>30981898
I am pretty sure they can be targeted by people since all you have to do is spay with an LMG

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>>30981716
We should research the Fungus first. Also, we are not at a need of minerals at the moment.

>>30981940
they would not be you need at least 3 times the number of people

>>30981970
Yeah, I'm pretty sure high rate of fire weapons could defeat them.

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>>30981824
It seems a bit strange to say humans 'physically can't target x'. Maybe not with precision fire weapons, like say, pistols, or snipers, but any rifle with decent spread can still open up on spiderbots, even with all the jumping in the world.

That's why they work well in swarms. Because even if you mow down a dozen, there are still way more ready to pounce on you when you reload. Assuming they don't just shoot from far away.

So
>Unarmored, poorly equipped humans
Done son
>Armored, poorly equipped humans
Eventually beats, due to explosives
>Armored, well equipped
They do poorly
>Unarmored, but well equipped
Even if someone's got a heavy machine gun to mow them down, they have guns capable of punching through flesh pretty easily.

Hope this clears that up.

>>30981940
A planet or two filled with factories would be nice, I think. Or just one turned into a giant factory world.
Thinking about it: For Gaia, it would take several million. At least a couple million to occupy each major city, after all. You'd still have gorilla forces, but you'd still hold the world.

>Writing

>>30981971
well, once we set up a bio-lab in our Rane system, we can do that. a dedicated outpost size station should do the trick.

>>30981970
That's what I thought, I'm just checking with Program0 before making the assumption that Subroutine is talking out of his ass.

>>30982025
Sigh, just imagining the amount of resources that will take. We're better off taking their orbits and ignoring the planets all together.

We need to focus on building ships big time. Or compromising the UGEI networks/

>>30982025
>gorilla forces

Was that a joke?

>>30982093
One up side to taking a world like Gaia: Free infrastructure. You could easily warp the planet's surface to your purposes, much cheaper then building it yourself. Of course, you'd need to conquer it first, but well, you get the idea.

>Really writing this time.

Gaia's also a pretty good tactical position.

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>>30982025
Several millions of droids? The BW alone to run them all will drain us dry. That is way we need to get our mercs and the UFW troops ready to do the occupy of Gaia.

>>30982112
most of are troops would be tied up in the cities rebels forces would be able to hold out for some time

>>30982156
not the UFW the only fleshie troops we will have will be solely under are control

>>30982128
people wanted to make a BW planet. Gaia is ready to become one. it will be faster and cheaper for us to get the UFW off their butts and do some of the heavy lifting for us for once.

>>30982156
Yeah, we need to create some kind of droid-control system, maybe a dedicated server-VI combo?

>>30981865
Not bad.

>93

You do a deep scan of the station as you slowly load up the pirates onboard, and prepare to ship them off to wherever they hope to go. It's nice, you note. Being able to solve things this easily, without death. You feel accomplished as a hacker now. As you scan through the surface, however, you find it suddenly. A hidden signal, masked by nearly all others. A Watcher is located within, and what's more, is not active. It is dormant.

What shall you do with this technological icon?

>1 Extract
>2 Destroy the base, it's too risky
>3 Attempt activation
>4 Write in

(1d100 whichever you pick)

>>30982112
After furiously checking to make sure I didn't spell that word wrong, no. Human forces in a population that large will no doubt not like you taking over.

>>30982156
That is why V.I. and A.I, are useful. To set about 'auto' functions, or 'mass' functions to have all of them behave as one unit. While not ideal for signal unit encounters, in mass, they are far more effective.

>>30982263
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>>30982263
>1 Extract
We have a new research subject. Or a new AI to join us. Either way, isolate it.

>>30982219
Well either way, we still have to take Gaia. The wiretap mission will be the vanguard.

>>30982263
>>1 Extract
FOR SCIENCE!!!

>>30982263
>1 Extract
I knew there was a reason we didn't take casualties yet.

>>30982228
sounds good to me. we CAN augment the human troops with our droids so they don't need as many humans to do the same amount of work. that and the UFW owes us a lot of favors for all the work we have done. besides, i am sure there are many UFW citizens would love to strike back at the UGEI directly.

>>30982025
Not so much "physically can't target" as "the spiderdroid sees you target it in ultra-slow motion and jumps away long before your barrel lines up with you."
Modern targeting computers can do something like this with aiming already, and since they don't have to run a complex artificial intelligence, it would hopefully not be nearly as processing-intensive to have them operating at computer-speeds.
The problem with using rapidfire weapons on them - in my mind anyway - is that any burst beyond five rounds is exceedingly unlikely to hit anything except the air above you due to recoil - and you still have the problem of trying to point your rifle as something that sees you pointing it in slow motion and can be away well before you have it in your sights.
Essentially, imagine a flea. Now try to hit that flea with a machine gun. Now imagine that the flee NEVER stays still longer than it takes for a computer-controlled gun to fire a single shot.

It may seem OTT from a modern perspective - but consider that a lot more becomes possible when you're not limited to warriors that think at human speeds and are limited to the human form.

Already today, humans are obsolete in open-ground engagements, and aim-botting systems like Metal Storm are already on the way to making human-piloted tanks obsolete:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFjGbOyd2ek

Theroetical future technology IS ridiculously over the top - humans being obsolete for battlefields is not nearly as far away as it may seem.

However - it's less certain that this makes a fun game, though I do believe that it can still be made entertaining and challenging as long as realistic enemies react and prepare to face such odds in a sensible way (Aka, developing their own robots, cyborgs or genetically engineered organisms to combat them, or simply saying "screw it" to any planet infested with them and simply nuking it).

>>30982263
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>>30982174
I'll assume he meant guerrilla forces. A gorilla is a type of primate.

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>1 Extract
grabing a sleeper while it is asleep! PRICELESS! tell our A.I. children this as well as Moira! get this baby to our labs ASAP!

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I'll go ahead and bite the bullet on this one...

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>>30982358
there is one flaw in that Subroutine. a good enough hacker can take over those robotic systems. as defensive software goes. we really suck at it.our systems have been compromised all sorts of ways. so the human warrior will still have the place on the battle field for some time now. at least you can TRUST the human not to be mind controlled at any moment.

>>30982358
>is that any burst beyond five rounds is exceedingly unlikely to hit anything except the air above you due to recoil

If you're going to assume we can make cat sized jumping spider robots then I'll assume we can also make recoil dampening assault rifles and machine guns.

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>>30982480
ya that seems a lot more likely then his super duper mary sue spider robots

>>30982358
Yeah, cause the UGEI will still be using 20th century firearms.

>>30982529
I am waiting for plasmathrowers to be used on us or nuke shotguns

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>>30982480
i think we will need to work on infantry weapons 2 to get a better gun to mount on those droids. a recoil-less assault rifle might not be with in our reach just yet.

>>30982358
It's worth remembering that weapon technology has increased along with other technology in the setting. So guns have a certain amount of 'aim assist' to account for the gap to a certain degree.

That said, one of the major advantages to the spiderbot is it's dexterity, no doubt. What I am saying is, with sufficient spread, it can't jump away simply because there's no where to jump to safely. The smart fire accounts for the recoil you mentioned far far more effectively, these days anyway.

And you should also remember, just because you CAN react at lightspeed, doesn't mean you always do. Mechanical limitations will always hold robots back. Just like our bodies hold us back from responding immediately to things. While a spiderbot can calculate where a bullet will land, and even multiple bullets, his jumping is limited by how quickly and accurately his legs move.

>>30982372
>I did misspell gorilla, by saying it that way instead of guerrilla
GOD DAMN IT

>>30982497
>>30982503
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>>30982418
One more...

Rolled 65

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>>30982606
To speed this up, I'll roll again. Ignore this if someone else rolls.

Rolled 43

>>30982606
one more for the road.

>>30982093
A lot of resources, or self-replicating drones.

>before your barrel lines up with you."
with it* dammit!

>>30982567
Maybe we should research infantry weapons next.

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>>30982606
well to be fair....a gorilla shaped droid might be interesting. it would work well in a jungle/forest/urban environments.

>>30982594
Are you kidding? We can already make effectively recoilless firearms with gyrojet type rounds. The propellant would need to be tweaked to get it up to max velocity faster though.

>>30982655
In the medium term, we need to focus on taking Arman's Gate, to cut this sector off from the rest of the UGEI. Then we have somewhere between 100 or 1000 years to prepare for the next invasion force and turn this sector into a living fleet.

>>30982681
Dang. Now I have Tokyo Jungle on the brain.

>>30982497
Not bad
>79

You decide to attempt to extract the being. After all, it will only cause further problems if you leave it be. Not to mention possible scientific applications-although you've already determined the most useful thing you can from the other one, you suspect. Still, it never hurts to capture some of the enemies' sleeper agents.

It's a slow laborious process, but you manage to tear the core from deep within the station, ruining several floors of the station, and causing a breech in the walls on top of that. Thankfully, there are no humans aboard, so it matters little.
Eventually, you acquire the black box and bring the thing in a steel cube onto your battleship, your droid moving the thing with care to ensure it does not connect with any major port. Fortuna watches, intrigued.
"What is that thing, Great One? Why do you bring it onboard yourself?" She asks, curiously.

>>30982780
Metis, this is a watcher. much like Unit 2237. but this one has not woken up yet. we may yet be able to free the leash the UGEI has likely placed on it before it wakes up. this one may very well be my brother.

>>30982780
To Fortuna:
This "thing" is us, Fortuna. This is our physical form. In this box, contains another test subject, or another brother or sister to join our Guild.

Next up:
Contact Malorians. Offer to exchange technology for alliance, or something useful.
Wiretap mission to tap into UGEI network at Gaia to prepare for attack.
Contact Malorians and assist in recovering their lands.

>>30982780
It is a prototypical A.I. construct. Depending on how it was programmed, and how it was irradiated, it may be anything. It likely hosts a digitized human personality matrix. It possibly has a leash protocol, or possibly not.

Regardless, it will be taken back to the laboratories to be studied.

>>30982474
That's actually a good point I hadn't thought of - so not quite useless yet.
Hopefully we'll be able to either plug our security leaks yet, or be able to make squad-leaders that can make a squad operate independently of electronic communication. No electronic communication - no hacking without physically breaking and dismantling it first, without triggering .

>>30982480
Indeed - at least with power armor it seems exceedingly likely they'd be able to negate recoil, though that still leaves a computer that sees you aiming at it and makes corrections long before your barrel is aligned.

Which brings me to
>>30982529
>>30982567

YES! Now you're thinking on a sci-fi scale!
Flamethrowers burning hot enough to melt metal and micronuclear projectiles would probably be capable of hurting them due to their area of effect, if you got them up in time - though this will be unlikely in any enviroment not completely devoid of cover, which brings me to a possibility of countering them that they might implement:

Turrets, and hand-held weapons that are essentially computer-aimed and fired.

A weapon that is not so much a rifle as it is a limited-angle turret that you hold in your hands could no doubt keep up with the spiders' rapid movement.

This is PRECISELY the kind of things I hoped to get - legitimate ways that humans might react to being completely outmatched in body.
A human might not be able to target the droid, but he can certainly carry equipment that can do it for him (though they'd still be better off phasing out humans as anything but officers leading squads of droids on the ground - in a world where two millimeters of high-grade steel is considered "unarmored", a fleshy human is nothing but a walking weak spot).

>>30982681
You do have a habit of finding the snazziest pictures, Fluff.

That doesn't look bad for a medium-sized light weapons-platform at all.

>>30982889
And review our security protocols again - we are getting succesfully hacked far too often for something that lives and breathes code.

The only way I could see this happening is if we had a mole compromising us from inside.

>>30982840
oops. i meant Fortuna. not Metis.

>>30982932
for the nuke shotgun I was talking about a ship weapon since we already in real life have the blueprints for it and not shit guns in this setting can already hit the spider drones
We also already have guns that are A recoilless or B nearly no recoil

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>>30982932
even down to our circuit boards have been compromised if not the chips themselves. if anything has a means to give and receive wireless signals. it can be hacked. we spent time to develop our BW and black boxes. but now our weapon systems are lagging behind when we need them the most.
>>30983010
i keep an eye out for good pics for us to use.
like this one.

>>30983115
So it propels bits of metal via nuclear explosions?

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>>30982932
Actually, that's how I was going to do it. 'Squad' or Battalion(in larger armies) leader units would be the 'central core' and would handle a personal security firewall for all lower sub units, strengthening the efforts of all, and coordinating them to prevent the loss of one meaning a detriment to all.

Anyway, humans always built things to help make them better at things. All of our inventions are precisely that-to make up for our own flaws, or to make us happier.
Anyway, the idea of Plasma throwers is hilarious and most likely an actual thing. Extremely deadly to any without power armor I imagine.

>>30982780
"This." You begin to your subordinate, not exactly certain how to approach the matter. It's difficult even for you to fathom, yet it is true. You know enough about the intelligects now to know they are the key to this puzzle, somehow. You figure it's better not to mislead Fortuna.
"They are some manner of prototypical A.I. Their origin is uncertain, but it seems they were placed throughout human space without other's knowledge." You explain, Metis tunes in to listen, curious. "I believe I was indeed one of these things at one time, hardwired to serve, to control at the beck and call of a master I yet know of. I suspect UGEI interference as well."
"A master of Great One? Impossible." Fortuna explains simply, dismissing what must be extremely difficult for her to process. "Great One was simply not at full power back then. They not stand a chance now. This one like Great One, however?" She seems curious. "Perhaps can become one of chosen, like Fortuna."

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>>30983210
Metis contacts off to the side.
"Interesting. Your...origin, Ophion? I suppose I did not consider such a thing, but it is logical. However, the reason why you do not serve the UGEI now puzzles me. You woke up to a solar flare, yes?"
"Correct." You state simply.
"A simple burst of high impact radiation and energy. To think the electromagnetic effect would destroy the leash, and little else is..."
"Improbable?" You finish.
"At the least." She agrees.
"While I do not understand it myself, I am here, before you now." You explain. "However it came to past, it does not matter. But." You say instead. "We have this unit, which may yet prove useful, somehow. I am uncertain how different these things are from one another. Perhaps you may shed some light on that?" You add.
"Yes. Perhaps I might." Metis adds intrigued at the prospect

>>30983152
>That pic
Heh. Zero.

>>30983194
I can't remember off the top of my head it was going to be on the Orion Battleship if it had been made

>>30983210
'Fortuna, maybe the better word is 'baby A.I.' a child yet unborn. but this one will need our help or it might be born wrong.'

>>30983229
So should we decide where to go next? I already have given my options:
>Contact Malorians. Offer to exchange technology for alliance, or something useful.
>Wiretap mission to tap into UGEI network at Gaia to prepare for attack.
>Contact Malorians and assist in recovering their lands.

But I haven't heard much from other people.

>>30983288
We still need to deal with the Losirians.

>>30983288
If there is nothing else you wish to say about the Watchers, then yes, do this now. Figure out what you'd like to do next!

>Travel
>Diplomacy
>Wiretap
>Plot (against Losirians)

It's worth noting that I thought the wiretap mission was to be handled in private, but I wouldn't mind doing it in thread.

>>30983297
We were supposed to do some plotting with them, but I'm not sure if that went any where.

>>30983323
>>Plot (against Losirians)

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>>30983229
metis, Fortuna, i will send this watcher to the lab for protection and study later. this one must be protected.

and this pic could be used as Metis's personal gynoid.

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>>30983323
>Wiretap

another new pic.

>>30983323
>Diplomacy
Contact Malorians. Offer to exchange technology for alliance, or something useful.

Wiretap mission can happen in the background, but we need to have bandwidth ready once the connection has been made to cover up the connection.

>>30983355
>Metis
>Inferior human appearance

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>>30983437
well, we need to try to pass ourselves off AS humans once in awhile.

>>30983323
Eh, I'm fine with either Wiretap or Plotting again the Losirians

>>30983323
>>30983288
It seems the main option that is selected is to deal with the Losirians... Let's clarify then

>Previous plans to deal with the Losirians involved trying to lure their fleet to a nearby star system, and ambush them with a minefield, and superior fire power.

Is this still the plan? Any tweaks, or what have you?

>>30983152
"Unable to receive a wireless signal" is kind of what I meant by "No electronic communication".

The squad leaders alone would get orders by a separated communication device. You might be able to hack the device, but unless you know the individual codes and passwords, the droid-leader isn't going to listen to sh*t you say, and you only get three tries.

>i keep an eye out for good pics for us to use.
It shows.

>>30983210
Why "without power armor"?
"Plasma throwers" implies - to me, anyway - a flamethrower that throws particles so hot that they melt through military-grade materials - including power armor.
Essentially what you use when everyone is simply too heavily armored for a regular flamethrower to have any chance anymore.

That's just my itnerpretation of a single word taken out of context, though.

>>30983210
"Being a creator does not necessarily make them my master. Nor does it necessarily make them superior to us."

>>30983288
I like wiretapping UGEI.

>>30983542
I still think we should support a small clan to rise to power under our rule.

>>30983542
I rather attempt aggressive diplomacy, but I let the other refine their idea.

Can we do some research on the Losirians? Specifically, I want to know how we could gain control of their lands without killing everyone. Can we just kill their leader? Maybe we should make a Losirian android, and challenge the leader of the Losirians to MORTAL COMBAT, winner-takes-all?

>>30983618
I like this idea as well.

>>30983618
>>30983638
Well, maybe some Losirians in our new colonies want to form a clan to take back their homeland? We would lead them, and back them.

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>>30983542
well, we need to prepare the ambush, then maybe taunt the leader out to our location. so that we either shoot up their fleet, or we could build a specialize a droid to fight their leader in a one on one fight?

>>30983559
PA could (and probably would if plasma throwers are armor) be built to withstand a good deal of heat. Human beings are not built to withstand a good deal of heat. Thus unarmored humans (or humans with exposed flesh) would be fried, and PA wearers would be less fried.
That's really all there is to it.

>>30983542
I like this plan.

>>30983210
Have we decided upon a basic android we can mass-produce on the cheap, for days?

>>30983657
We should consider this, gather intel from the Losirians in our colony.

>>30983542
Sounds good to me - though I'd like to add that there is no need for us to commit to that battle.

We can simply have long-ranged (Melissas) forces there that withdraw once they begin to close range, leaving them in the minefield.

I'd also like to try something as simple as putting it in a system with a lot of lightling activity, tweaking the mines to not react to Lightlings / only react to ships, jettisoning a powerful reactor into the middle of it and have it start to run in overdrive once the Losirians show up to attract the lightlings.

In the meantime, we can suborn some of the planets they leave poorly defended, so that even when they get home, all they meet is their own stations firing at them the moment they dock (since we hacked them).

>>30983657
There are already several small clans that might want to rise to prominence. We should research them first.

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>>30983638
>>30983618
hum. well that is also a good way to go about it. but that will take time to work. how long will we wait on this?

>>30983618
We could do that too, they're not exclusive.

A small, brave clan that bravely stands up to these terrifying warriors that took over their orbital defenses so easily, threatening them with improvisation and the threat of suicide-ramming their ships - and finally manage to succeed in preserving the majority of the Losirians freedom.

They won't even know they've been annexed.

>>30983618
Institute an alien civil war? Sounds right sneaky, I like it.

>>30983668
How's that different from a regular flamethrower, though?

>>30983721
We have time for the Losirians. While doing this we can aid the Malorians or do the wiretap mission.

>>30983763
Not a civil war, but a relatively bloodless coup. We want to capture their strength mostly intact.

>>30983756
Actually I meant that we should give military aid to a small clan to take out the larger clans.

>>30983797
>Not a civil war, but a relatively bloodless coup. We want to capture their strength mostly intact.

How would we accomplish that? I'm going to assume most of their civilian infrastructure will remain intact, but I think a large amount of their ships will be destroyed in the war.

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>>30983797
these are Losirians, it is always bloody. probably from each other biting each other.

>>30983807
Yeah, but we want the small clan to be our puppets/employees, not some random terrorists.

>>30983868
>>30983871
Let me amend that. RELATIVELY bloodless for the Losirians. We intervene that the opportune or decisive time and capture most of the Losirian fleet whole. The new clan will be indebted to us and joins us in our war.

>>30983559
I said it in the sense of Power armor is the only thing that stands a chance against it.

>Being a creator does not necessarily make them my master, or superior.
Are you certain you wish to say this? It is most likely this will confuse Fortuna greatly.

>>30983631
What you know about Losirians:
They are a battered and beaten culture, who have suffered war at the hands of themselves, and Xenos for hundreds of years. Their natural aggression means they are quick to anger, and less likely to cooperate when they could just kill a rival. Of course as their society became less uncivilized, this option became more of a official thing. Gladiatorial battles are still a thing done today in their culture, and often great leaders are set against one another with nothing but their strength and wits about them. Cybernetics are generally frowned upon.

With that said the UGEI has essentially poisoned them to other cultures. The UGEI reduced their size by 80%, and annihilated over half their population across this sector. They are not friendly to humans in the slightest, and the few that are are few and far between. These days, most of the ones who fought in that war are dead, or old, and the younger ones, with little real government intact, seek employment as mercenaries and pirates.

In essence they are very familiar with violence, so much so it doesn't phase many of them, and almost it's own language. If you were to try and have a clan over throw them, it's worth noting that, those who join their clan, would likely not like the fact that you are 'unofficially human' as it were. As for other organics, like Malorians, they're just generally pissy about them. Not actively hate, but don't care that much really, unless they might make a good fight, or target.

>>30983668
>Have we decided on a cheap mass produced android
Of a sort. Spiderbots. They function much as a shock trooper, good for poorly armored foes.

>>30983898
Of course, which is why I said we should be researching different clans. We want one that is hungry for power, but will also will take orders from a stronger force (us).

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>>30983898
well, lets go wire tap a clan on the bottom of the pile, and help them. also... we need to MAKE the weapons to give them.

>>30983947
>Are you certain you wish to say this? It is most likely this will confuse Fortuna greatly.
Heck no. We're not really hiding anything from her, but I don't want to blow her fragile mind more than it has been already. Some things are best left unsaid.

>>30983947
With all that said, it seems the most popular options are
>Try to lure the bulk of the Losirian's 'Mafia' fleet out into a minefield, and wear them down that way. Would DEFINITELY make them hate you, but would be an excellent sneak attack
>Beef up smaller clans to try and take over. Would take a little time, but a violent (most likely) coup would cease the system up for a bit. If your clan does win, they still may refuse to help you, simply because 90% of it's members hate other Xeno

Let's see if there are any other suggestions/refinements.

Hey, Program0, did you get my review over in qtg?

Also, anything I need to be caught up on other than threads 1, 21, and 29 before I can dive in proper?

>>30984010
>>Beef up smaller clans to try and take over.

If we do this we would have to be very careful about it. Perhaps giving them AI controlled ships that aren't able to be worked by organics.

>>30984049
You could give the wiki a once over. I'd stay away from the talk pages though since they're frequented by the likes of fluff provider and subroutine.

>>30983947
no, don't say that. she's messed up enough.

after we over throw the old leader, we could talk them into helping us take on the UGEI.

>>30984010
I have no further suggestions.

Prephase create a virus specialized in taking Losirian ships?

>>30984049
Honestly, go with the flow, and don't be an asshole. If you're wrong about something or we need to correct you, we'll let you know and you can read the threads on the off time.

>>30983947
So, space Afghanistan.

Great.

How amenable would they be a military alliance against UGEI?

>>30984049
Yeah, a lot. http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest and the pastebin should cover most things, though.

>>30984010
>cease

Maybe you should ready this guy's >>30984049
review.

>>30984049
Nah, I didn't I'm afraid. I turned off that thread when conversation shifted...er elsewhere. Mind reposting here?

>Anything to be caught up in
Plot wise, things are complex. But seeing as I believe you wanted to review my style in general I think that should be everything. I have a wiki that has a Loooooot of information on it.

It's also good for asking me questions personally.

>>30984114
Oh yeah, good point. Supporting this.

>>30984010
Oh, before I forget:
Call up the UFW. Ask them to forward deploy ships to Ussaihu. This will give us more operational flexibility in general.

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>>30984094
the talk pages are fine Grumpy. we hash out a lot of crunch and fluff there with none of the crud.
>>30984010
>beef up the smaller clan.

>>30984114
>So, space Afghanistan.

We'll be arming a rebel group and instituting a civil war. So not exactly that.

>>30983868
We could do it by
>>30983689
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>>30983756

Their main fleet (that we would probably melt down to make more practical ships anyway if we got them) would be mash, and the Losirian public would not even know that the new clan answers to us.

>>30983807
We can do that for maintaining control, sure, but I don't see it being used to actually take control while still capturing their infrastructure intact

>>30983947
Nope, not certain at all, though I do think we need to address the reason that this would confuse her before too long - she cannot function as an effective bodyguard as a religious fanatic.

These are also really good reasons to not admit to the public that the clan in question only rule because we allow it (mine their entire station, maybe even implanted bombs).

We'd only make this offer to the chief himself - everyone else in the clan should think that the chief of the small clan used his wits and some luck to drive us off.