>>30916648
>[ ]Kill it! You can try making this voodoo medicine!
Don't know where the rest of that line went.

Previous threads available on suptg at
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I also have a Twitter for updates, @Loli_Kaleun

>>30916648
>[ ]Ask it if it wants something?
Tell me your secrets Zone!Crow.

>>30916648

> [ ]Offer it some food.

>>30916648
>[ ]Offer it some food.

Did we ever get Kris or someone to take a look at that whole shotgun to the chest at point blank thingy? Just curious.

>>30916648
[x]Ask it if it wants something?
[x]Offer it some food.

Both or it might fly away.

[X] Ask
[X] Offer food

>>30916724
>No. But you stopped coughing up blood, so you're assuming you'll be fine.
>Probably.

>>30916731
Good point. If someone offered me food without stating their intentions outright, I'd be pretty damn cautious too.

>>30916746
Make a mental note to ask someone to check the next time we aren't distracted by things more interesting than our own well being. Should only be a couple of days?

>>30916648
[ ]Ask it if it wants something?
[ ]Offer it some food.

>>30916731
this

>>30916648
"Hi there, Mr. Crow!" You keep your voice chipper as you greet him, "do you want something?" The way it keeps staring deep into your eyes, somehow you get the impression that he's definitely asking for something. A... trade?

As gently as you can, so as not to spook it, you signal the others to not move and pull a chunk of bread from the side pocket of your pack. It looks in what you could almost describe as disdain at the piece of bread, before hopping into the air and flapping up to land on your arm, digging its claws deep into your forearm.

[ ]AH! Beat it off!
[ ]OW! Stay still, let him settle.

>>30917034
[ ]OW! Stay still, let him settle.
Play nice Mr. Crow or we will befriend the fuck out of you.

>>30917034
[ ]OW! Stay still, let him settle.

Is Loli a druid?

>>30917092
No, she is simply touched by the Zone.

>>30917034
>[ ]AH! Beat it off!
This crow is clearly evil.

>>30917034
OOOOWWWW! You can feel his claws dig deep into your arm. They definitely break the skin, and you can feel warm blood trickle quickly down your wrist.

[Pain Threshold!]

But you manage to stay perfectly still, giving him time to settle on your arm. He gazes once more at you, then taps at the silver shield on your arm, the one that came with the fancy school-girl outfit you've been wearing all this time.

[ ]Give him the shield?
[ ]Never relent your shield! It's part of your costume!

>Ughn. Perhaps I should alter how these stats work. You already auto-pass almost all pain checks with your stupidly high stats for pain resistance.
>And painful events just keep increasing it further!

>>30917148
Why would you think this?
[X] Let it stay

>>30917173
[ ]Give him the shield?

Loli definitely needs her improved pain resistance for future adventures.

>>30917173
Try giving a gun or something else first but if crow wont agree give shield

>>30917173
>[ ]Give him the shield?
Sadly we can't use it for its intended purpose, so who gives a crap let it have the shiny.

>>30917110
Zonemancer

>>30917173
>give shield
Also we've been shot and stabbed and kicked so many times we should really be resistant to pain. I've known girls that age who weren't any less sensitive to pain.

>>30917173
>>30917034
[ ]Give him the shield

Loli is not homu. But she might end up with her powers before too long.

[x] Put Quest in the title field so others do not have to see my dreck.

>>30917173
>[x]Give him the shield?

>>30917273
[x] Do not put Quest in the title so we can keep trolling subhuman trash

>>30917273
You mad? Da fuck were you expecting it to be with a title like Loli STALKER?

>>30917340
No, he's annoyed because it's considered common courtesy to put quest in the subject field so that people who don't want quests can easily filter them.

>>30917273
Apologies, friend. I forgot the title altogether.

>>30917372
common courtesy is reasonable. being incapable of looking at something and seeing what it is, is not reasonable.
one should be able to expect at least a minimum of competency.

>>30917372
at this point I have stopped giving a fuck about anti-questfags so if it somehow gives them a hard time then fuck um

>>30917423
Guy, calm it. Kaleun made a mistake, that Anon was right to point it out.

>>30917478
That's a pretty shit attitude that won't help anybody. Acting like an asshat will only make it so people see you as an asshat, thus reasonable grounds to come around and give you a hard time like you want for them.

>>30917423
Pretty sure he was well aware and has already manually hidden the thread. People get annoyed because normally the quest runner puts quest in the subject field so they don't have to manually hide the threads because they already have the term filtered.

>>30917478
Good thing you're not running a quest then, because it'd be quickly drowned by all the anons you just picked a fight with.

>>30917538
Anon could have had a point, had he not been an asshat.
Fact of the matter is, though, all anti-quest fags act like asshats most of the time, and are therefore not worth wasting any effort on.

>>30917173
You reach over and unbuckle the straps around your arm. The shield comes loose, and you hold it out to the crow. He takes it in his beak, turns back to you and bobs his head once, before taking to the air and fluttering away from you. You watch him go, and almost don't notice the second crow swoop in from behind your group and drop something at you. You manage to catch it in your hand as the crow passes overhead and speeds off into the distance.

Did you just... successfully trade with a crow?

You look at the object in your hand. It's... a sort of green ball, covered entirely in thin black spikes.
You look in askance to the rest of the group. Vasa is the first to return from her silent awe at your apparent trading abilities. "Kolobok," she nods at the thing in your hand. "Makes you more resistant to damage, so I heard."
Huh, that's pretty neat. You drop it into your pack and get ready to carry on.

A short while later, you make it back to the station. As you enter, your party is greeted by cheers from all present. Though you note that there are significantly less present than when you left.
From the far side of the room, Hawaiian waves you over.

[ ]Go straight to him. See what he wants.
[ ]Chat among the men.
[ ]Go take a nap. You earned it.
[ ]Other

>>30917733
[ ]Go straight to him. See what he wants.

This better be important, I'm breathing blood.

>>30917652
Not really. You've basically just got the occasional guy who's mad at everything, everyone else has already settled for the status of just filtering the threads they aren't interested in anyway. Notice how the guy isn't even in here anymore trying to start a fight? So stop trying to kick that fight up again in this thread.

>>30917733
Let's go see what Hawaiian wants. A nap can wait, this might be urgent.

>>30917733
>[ ]Go straight to him. See what he wants.
Also going to point out again that we were recently shot. We really should check that out before going on more adventures.

>>30917767
People who dont shitpost in quest threads arent anti-quest fags. anti-quest fags are asshats by the very definition. You'd have to be an asshat to get butthurt about someone forgetting a quest title.

>>30917733
>[x]Other
Inform the bar of our amazing Crow negotiating abilities.

>>30917733
> [X]Go straight to him. See what he wants.

waving at us just after we come back? Smells like plot.

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>>30917733
You cross the room to him. Whatever he wants might be urgent, best find out what it is. Sergei breaks off from the group and heads over to the group he'd been friendly with before, and again you can't help but notice that the group has less members now. Ice and Kris move to one of the empty tables in the corner of the room, while Vasa stays by your side as if it were just natural.

Hawaiian greets you with a wide grin. "Yooo, nice job with that bastard Kiyiya! Life around here's gonna be a lot quieter without him."

"For more than one reason," Vasa comments as her eyes scan the room. Hawaiian's expression doesn't change as he continues.

"But besides that, I got a package for you while you were out. It's from Beard. And apparently I'm supposed to take some pictures of you!"

He pushes a small bag of clothes across the bar at you. You nod in understanding, and ask him if there's somewhere private you can change. He offers you use of his store room, which you take. Inside the bag is... a suit?

A white shirt and a grayish-black waistcoat with jet black suit trousers. The trousers fit you perfectly, as does the waistcoat, though the shirt is a little loose. You assume this is intentional, and leave the top buttons undone for a more casual look. There's also a pink tie, which you leave loose as well. The set is finished off by a black fedora with a pink ribbon and a black blazer whose padded shoulders give you a rather interesting figure.

>>30918217
You finish pulling the set on and step out into the open once more. You get a small peal of applause, but the reaction is largely mute compared to your usual crowds. It's fair enough, with the recent battle still fresh in everyone's minds, combined with the fact that this would be your first 'performance' since you left Zaton.

[ ]Pull your usual poses. Get some shots and leave it at that.
[ ]Be extravagant, pull some flash moves and get the men involved.
[ ]Just let him take a snap and be done. No-one is in the mood for this sort of thing right now.

>>30918289
>[ ]Just let him take a snap and be done. No-one is in the mood for this sort of thing right now.
And then get our wound treated please.

>>30918289
[X]Pull your usual poses. Get some shots and leave it at that.

Good enuf.

>>30918289
>[x]Be extravagant, pull some flash moves and get the men involved.

They need to lighten up. Dwelling on it will only make it worse. Sure, that's the way PTSD is born, but they won't survive long enough anyway for it to become a problem. Let's make sure they stay capable in the short term as there most likely won't be a long term for any of us.

>>30918289
>[ ]Pull your usual poses. Get some shots and leave it at that.
We shouldn't disappoint our fans. However these pictures get circulated.

>>30918289
>[ ]Be extravagant, pull some flash moves and get the men involved.
Kaleun wants to write this, and I think he deserves to. Have fun, Beard.

>>30918289
>[ ]Pull your usual poses. Get some shots and leave it at that.

Good enough, we don't want to alienate Vasa.

>>30918289
>[ ]Be extravagant, pull some flash moves and get the men involved.
Eh, let's do it. Changing my vote from >>30918361

>>30918289
> [ ]Pull your usual poses. Get some shots and leave it at that.

>>30918217

>[ ]Be extravagant, pull some flash moves and get the men involved.

>>30918289
>[ ]Just let him take a snap and be done. No-one is in the mood for this sort of thing right now.

You start to take a stance ready for photo-time as Hawaiian prepares his camera. The blazer feels a lot heavier than it should, which you suspect is Beard's combat reinforcements at work. Vasa leans in and whispers quietly in your ear. "Hey, that suit uh... looks really good. Think Beard could get me one like it?"

You can't help but grin in response, "definitely! If you want one I'll get him to make you one right away!"

"Y-yeah, uh. Do that." She shifts her gaze uncomfortably around the room, before adding "and one for Kris."

"Alright, let's get this show on the road!" Hawaiian centers you in the camera focus and takes the first snap of your grinning features.

You cycle through your usual set of cute and intimidating poses pretty quick, and throw in a few that girls your age shouldn't know. You don't know how well they work with a suit, but you're definitely gathering the attention of the room at large, so it can't be all that bad.

When you've exhausted your usual moves, you don't quite feel satisfied. So you decide to improvise. You hop up onto the nearest table, grabbing one of the men around the shoulder and pulling him in close. "Say cheese!" He barely has time to compute what is happening before Hawaiian has followed you out and is snapping more pictures of the two of you together.

The reaction is immediate. Every man in the room is suddenly clamoring, leaping from their tables and pushing and shoving their way across the room, desperately trying to reach the table beside you. You giggle as you switch up partners, giving various gangster signs and pulling faux-scowls at the camera, As the press around you continues, you find yourself having to stand upright on the table in order to have enough space to breath. Which then gives you a good vantage to get a few shots with you pressing your heels down into the mass of men below, striking a commanding pose as you use their flesh to support you.
Hawaiian is cackling as he continues to take photos.

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>>30918774
Just when you start to wonder to yourself how you're supposed to get down now, though, the entire scene is interrupted by a single gunshot. Every man in the station either freezes, dives for cover, or spins to track the sound. Vasa is stood in the middle of the room, smoking rifle in hand pointed at the ceiling. "Okay, you've had your fun. How about letting the girl down, now?" She glares at Hawaiian as the loners mutter under their breath, breaking and returning to their own tables, leaving you enough space to hop down.

Hawaiian beckons you back over to the bar. "Okay, that was fantastic! But I got one more that I reckon's gonna steal the show!" He reaches over his counter with both hands, and pulls out a huge machine-gun. It's one of the ones the bad guys in the old war films used to use!
"Quick, strike a pose with this, and we'll call it done!"

You take the gun from him, the weight of it feeling heavier than you, and pose as if you were preparing to fire it from the hip. "Fantastic!" He takes the snap. At the exact moment he does, the far door of the station explodes inwards with an almighty BOOM.

Rolled 5

>>30918825
Shoot door

>>30918825
Hawaiian I hope to god you have some 8mm laying around because shit's about to get incredibly real

>We Jin-Roh now

>>30918825
Shards of wood fly across the room, there are several screams as they impact into some of the men stood casually near the door. You feel the wind blast of something huge flying past your head faster than your eye can track before the door behind you also explodes outwards. Everyone still standing dives for cover, pulling whatever weapons they have to hand. From the hallway to the yellow's side of the station, you pick out signs of hasty movement as they scramble to react to this sudden onslaught. On the other side, the men in red and black are already prepared, standing ready, fully armed and armored. And facing into the room.

As the dust and smoke from the blast clears, you see the gap where the main door used to be is now filled with the unmistakable shape of a tank, its gun barrel leveled, pointed straight at you. A single figure in heavy armor paces casually into the room. Of all the men in red, he's the only one not wearing a helmet.
"My name is Lt. Colonel Shulga, commander of the Duty forces in Yanov. Giltinė, you are under arrest, on the charges of crimes against humanity, and of conspiring with the Zone. Surrender immediately, or you WILL be fired upon."

Vasa is kneeling beside you, hands ready on her rifle. Kris and Ice have flipped the table across from you, and are both dug in and ready for a fight. You can't see Sergei. He was near the door somewhere. Your new over-sized toy is ready in your hands, leveled towards the guys in red. The guys in yellow are disordered, but ready to go as well.

[ ]Resist arrest.
[ ]Surrender.

>>30918973
>[ ]Surrender.
Genuflect, you want a tank badly.

>>30918973
Resist arrest, of course.

>>30918973
[X]Resist arrest.

>>30918973
>[X]Shoulder rifle
"On what grounds do you make this charge?"

Rolled 3

>>30918973
[X]Resist
Stab them to death once you get outside

Rolled 17

>>30918973
[ ]Resist arrest.

[SHOOTY roll] because the dice hate us.

>>30919007
This

Jesus christ this we don't want to make total enemies of them

Guys, I know we just got a toughness boost, but I'm very afraid we're going to die here if we fight. It's a fucking tank.

>>30918973
"Seriously? You're using a fucking tank indoors? I don't even know any of you people, how could you possibly be this mad?"

>>30919040
Turrets can only traverse so fast and depress so far... That being said I think we should ask what the fuck's going on before we go tank-jacking.

>>30918973
>[x]Surrender.
All our friends will die, if we do not.

>>30918973
>Ask what happens if we surrender. I'm fairly certain we are too young to receive any severe punishment so what are they planning.

>>30918973
>[x]Resist arrest.

You came to the wrong neighborhood Duty.

>>30919060
But they always do, so back on the lonely road once more.

>>30919060
Such is life in the Zone.

>>30919060
Death is a part of the zone. We would not be here if it wasn't. Besides we can always get new friends.

>>30918973
Seeing this much damage from one blast, which you're pretty sure was a warning shot... you really want a tank.

"REALLY? A TANK?" you shout indignantly at the man, "What did I do that makes you want to use a tank INDOORS?"

The man scratches his head, sheepishly. "You're Giltinė. What else am I supposed to bring that would make you even think of surrendering?"

"...Fair point. So, uh. What happens if I surrender?"

"You will be given a fair trial, of course. You will be taken back to our headquarters and be given a full court-martial. If found guilty, you will of course stand to be executed. As will your friends, for being co-conspirators." He shrugs, helplessly at you, "it's not something I want to do, but orders are orders. I shall attest to your innocence, with how you have helped up remove the plague that was Kiyiya, of course."

[ ]Surrender.
[ ]Resist.

>>30919185
>[x]Resist.

Yeah, fuck you. Fair trial my ass.

>>30919185
>[ ]Surrender.
We have supporters. I don't want these nice people to die.

>>30919185
Utter noob to this quest, what did this loli do?!

>>30919185
Resist. Can't risk getting our friends in trouble, and besides...
>Fair trial

>>30919185
"Leave my friends out of it and you have a deal."
>[x]Surrender.

>>30919185
>[ ]Surrender.
But only because we don't want all the nice people here getting killed by your stupid tank.

>>30919185
[ ]Resist.

I don't trust Duty.

>>30919185
>[ ]Resist.
"Why do you guys want to make the zone so boring?"

>>30919185
>[ ]Surrender.
When news spreads, otakus from all across the Zone will converge on them and come to our aid. These pictures Beard started will be our lifeline.

>>30919185
[X]Resist.
Fuck Duty.

>>30919185
>[x]Resist.
No more kidnapping pls.

>>30919237
That tank is literally inside the station at this point. If it fires, it will pretty much kill everything, including our friends. As much as duty are dicks, they'll not be as severe dicks when their tank isn't pointed at us anymore.

>>30919185
>WHAT
>GROUNDS

FUCKING ASK HIM WHY SHIT PEOPLE

>>30919326
They will also have an easier time killing us when we are inside their main base, weaponless and tied-up ready to be slaughtered like cattle.

>>30919326
Tanks typically have machine guns on the front of their hulls. Loli's a beast, but I don't like her chances facing one down pointed at her and doing so with no cover.

>I believe the resists have it by one?

>This is an important decision, so I'm not going to rush the vote.

>>30919185
>[ ]Surrender.
Demand a lawyer.

>>30919406
At this point it's just samefagging anyway. Go with it or roll a dice or something.

>>30919370
I'd much rather take the chance of a "fair trial" or escaping from them than actually taking on a fucking tank. Come on guys, you seriously want to take on a tank?

>>30919448
Yes, because it's better than getting railroaded by a bunch of shitty events.

>>30919448
We are loli and we have a fucking room full of allies, we can do it. Duty will just fuck us in the ass.

>>30919457
That ain't a bad reason either though.

>>30919448
As if it's going to be a fair trial.

>>30919448
"Fair trial" still means we die. Besides, Loli is all about having fun and Duty is pretty much the opposite of her idea of fun.

>>30919448
All we need is a grenade I think.

>>30919457
>>30919466
Really? Railroading? You inherently oppose an action because it's what your gm thinks you would do? I bet you're a blast to play with.

>Time for meta-knowledge to make the decision even better!

>Duty WILL give you a free trial. You are an important figure in the Zone, and they can't risk you becoming a martyr for Freedom and their Zone-friendly attitudes.

>You are currently in the middle of Yanov station, the only declared neutral zone in the entire Zone between Duty and Freedom. Duty have just taken an aggressive stance here.
>Freedom are highly likely to respond in kind if violence is enacted in the neutral zone. This will not end here.

>>30919533
Still saying resist.

>>30919533
Yanov Station wishes to join Freedom, and we are defending them from the tyranny of Duty. We'll hold a vote once the tank is dead to justify us.

>[x]Resist

>>30919533
Still resist. Freedom has our back in this.

>>30919533
>Diplomacy/Negotiations
MORE WORDS! What charges, how much for the tank?

>>30919514
Your average grenade won't do diddly to a tank.

>>30919533
>Surrender
Still stressing the point that we only do so because we don't want all these people getting killed in the crossfire. We're their hero now.

>>30919533
Well I still say we resist. Any just trial would pretty much condemn us. Loli is not a good guy. She is basically Kiaya junior.

>>30919533
>[x] cry "but i just kill bad guys who try to kill me"
start going stab happy as soon as he lowers his guard, [x]resist

>>30919646
>Don't we have an RPG. I'm sure we got one nin that stash.

>>30919533
We redoing this vote?

>[x]Surrender

>>30919533
>Duty have just taken an aggressive stance here.
So basically...
>Loli orchestrates taking down one of the greatest threats in the Zone with the help of Duty, a huge service to every honest stalker out there.
>Duty attacks the only neutral place in the zone.
Fuck you Duty, you are the aggressor here.

>[x]Resist

>>30919722
>Less re-doing, I was more looking to see if anyone would choose to change their vote with this knowledge.
>Since it's pretty neck-and-neck, one altered vote could sway the rest of the story arc.

>>30919733
What kind of charge is conspiring with the zone anyway.

>>30919655
Not really. She kills people, sure, but that's the norm in the zone. Enjoying it may concern the people around you a little, but whatever. It's only when you go around killing indiscriminately or being particularly sadistic about it that stalkers start giving a shit, and we haven't really done that since the whole being controlled by the Monolith thing.

>>30919754
Working with Monolith I guess?

>>30919785
Well how are we meant to survive a trial for it then. It's pretty much undeniable.

>>30919185
"...Well? What is your answer?" The eyes of every person in the room are fixed upon you and you alone. Apart from Vasa's. She's staring at the tank, and you can tell she's judging where the shell is going to land, and whether she needs to move away from it before she reaches for the rocket launcher still slung over her shoulder.

A maniacal grin spreads slowly across your features. "My answer? Well, my answer would be this."
You pull the trigger.

[Part 26 Teaser End]

>>30919762
We did do that a before we got controlled by the monolith though. Loli like killing people and she can be really sadistic about it. The reason we stopped was more because we wanted a better reputation so people would stop shooting at us. Not because we are a good person.

>>30919800
Strangely, I have no idea what the law takes on actions committed while mind controlled.

>>30919850
Well if we're talking about duty. Probably the kind of talk the get us in front of a firing squad,

>>30919800
Innocence by reason of temporary insanity?

Anyway, Duty has no jurisdiction in the Zone, they could have chosen the diplomatic way. Instead they committed an aggressive act on neutral territory.

>>30919829
Whelp. that happened. Back to death and mayhem.

>>30919829
Awesome thread and an awesome end to it. I was afraid that we would have to go through a long drought without getting to kill anything again.

>>30919880
As if the other option wouldn't get everyone killed anyway. At least this way we have a chance of defending ourselves and our friends.

>>30919842
We were never killing people for no reason whatsoever. There was always some threat being posed from the people we killed, and we didn't exactly go about it torturing them or using body parts to decorate buildings. Hardly anywhere near "crimes against humanity." The monolith dreams are examples of actually going about it in a sadistic way and murdering indiscriminately.

>>30919902
Kaleun just said that it wouldn't. This trial would've been rigged in OUR favour.

>>30919953
Even if we discard the fact that we make a decision based on META, it still doesn't guarantee they wouldn't find us guilty. We do have a huge lapse of memory where we may have committed every imaginable sin against humanity (and maybe even invented new ones).

>>30919953
It would still put us under their control. Most likely to be coerced with the threat of death to our friends. He only said they wouldn't kill us.

Thanks for the thread, folks! I hope you can all join me for the probably very bloody continuation of tonight's decision on Saturday!

I sure hope at least one or two of the good guys have enough hit points left to survive what is to come!

As always, the thread is free for further discussion/paranoia, and I shall linger for a short while.

>>30919942
No but we were not too far from it. Take the arena fight for example. The thing is that while Loli does have morals and doesn't kill without reason her morals are still pretty skewed and she rarely tries to find a peaceful solution if she is confident she can kill something. Remember that killing and all that is basically why she came to the zone in the first place.

>>30920021
I very much doubt it. Time to wander alone again.

[x] Put Quest in the title field so others do not have to see my dreck.

>>30920121
They'd probably die either way anyway. It's a pretty shitty position either way.

>>30919973
It's not unreasonable to argue that she can't be held responsible for that. The effects of the Monolith are commonly known (if not understood) and the fact she was controlled by the Monolith also seems to be commonly known.

>>30920056
Most of her solutions involve killing, sure. But that's still a standard solution in the Zone, and I dare you to count the number of people who weren't bandits or mercs that we have killed without being under the control of the Monolith.

>>30920162
No, they wouldn't.

>>30920192
bull fucking shit they wouldn't. They're a bunch of extremist shitheads.

>>30920219
Read the thread.

>>30920228
I did he said they wouldn't kill us. They did say that they would kill our friends however.

>>30920021
Do we have any grenades?
Can we open latch of tank?
Can we drive or learn to drive tank?

>>30920266
Vasa has an RPG.

>>30920266
You have some plastic explosive left in your pack.
Vasa has an RPG and several warheads.
Kris has a selection of grenades. You don't know what they are.

>>30920266
You're best off relying on the RPG already pointed at it. You could always try to grenade the tank crew, but doing so while under fire from however many Dutyers are here is more than a little suicidal.

>>30920188
She didn't kill that many because we got controlled pretty early and before that we were still pretty green. But if you read her thought process while killing (the arena is a good example) it is very clear that she enjoys making people suffer. It is also clear that she does not care much for human life. She will defend her friends because she likes them better alive but she doesn't really differentiate the death of a friend with for example losing a beloved toy.

>>30920258
He said the trial will be fair, not that they won't kill us. And also that they'd kill our friends IF we're found guilty. As in, they're only going to kill us if they actually convincingly prove to not just themselves but also the neutrals who they're always interested in recruiting or at least not turning over to Freedom that we actually deserve it.

>>30920351
Open to interpretation, really. She cried over the loss of Sock's group, was genuinely upset by the group of rookies she was with being gunned down (not that anyone saw except the one guy who was pissed for being mistakenly left for dead), tried to play hero when rescuing the guys from the gas station soon after that, and very recently put herself at risk to spare the lives of the loners who Kiyiya hid among.

>>30920449
Yes she does care about people but she gets over them very quickly. The way I think of her is that she sees the zone as a way to live out the movies she idolizes. That is why she can be so inconsistent with playing hero one moment and villain (or antihero may be a better word) the next. She will of course fight for her life first and foremost but after that she will just do whatever she feels like. Her motivations are basically just to have fun and she is a sadist who likes playing a hero. Emphasis on "playing" because that is what she does.

>>30920021
>I sure hope at least one or two of the good guys have enough hit points left to survive what is to come!
you better not go an kill Vasa or Kris after we just survived the fight with Kiyaya...

>>30920716
I don't think that's a fair assessment. Aside from the arena, which was ages ago and happened while under pressure from an audience demanding to be entertained, her killings of people haven't been sadistic at all. Being amused by action and violence is not the same as being amused specifically by inflicting pain and suffering, which is what sadism is. A sadistic act would not be merely killing people, but actually trying to inflict more pain unto them than necessary while being amused by the fact that they are in pain.

>>30921017
Spot on, Aside from the Arena, where such things are expected, Giltine has been rather defensive and acting in self defense in almost all situations she's found herself in after getting free off Monolith's control

>>30921017
If that is the definition of sadism then you are probably right. Although I do think that Loli enjoys making people suffer to some extent (even if there were others who egged her on in the arena she still liked it) I think it is more that she finds joy in killing in the same way that you would find joy in beating someone at sports. In her eyes the whole thing is a game. Loli may like to play a hero but the difference between her and a real hero is that a hero would do things to make the world better in some way. Loli does not want the world to get better because then she can't play hero anymore.

>>30921257
Oh yeah, I'm definitely arguing that she's a hero or even slightly saintly, but I do object to the idea that she's a sadist. I simply don't think she is, she simply enjoys the adventure, including the violent side of it. Whether it's the blood of bandits or her own, it's all fun and adventure and excitement. After all, that's what her grandma taught her. Blood is part of the package so it's exciting. So that's really a huge motivation for her, and as originally stated to Beard, what she wants out of the Zone is basically adventure.

>>30921716
I swear I originally had a 'not' in that first sentence. Oh well. So I checked the archive and grandma's stories aren't explicitly stated to condone bloodshed but it sure seems implied. Possibly unintended by her and Loli just interpreted that way because boredom was everything she knew and even the worst horror stories you could come up with would sound like an improvement in her mind.

>>30921716
Well I guess we are probably on the same page. Or at least as close as we are going to get. There will always be some subjective differences.
>>30922025
I sort of assumed that you meant to put 'not' there so no harm done. I just think that when it comes to killing Loli just does not have the mental barriers that ordinary people have. She sees the risk of death as a big part of the adventure and assumes everyone she meets feel the same, or at least know what they signed up for when they entered the zone.

>>30922336
Anyways I really need to sleep now. It was a nice discussion. See you next thread if nothing else.