As your master goes about freeing the loyalist guards from their cells, you decide to help yourself to the vice-captain's possessions, including that saber of his. The blade itself appears to be bone-enriched steel, and is barely even scratched from where you struck it with your overcharged dagger. The hilt and guard is brass with a leather grip and ivory inserts. Examining the weapon closer, you are uncertain of what type of module it uses, so you decide to test out the weapon on an old wooden chair. A single vertical swing on the chair reveals two things to you. The first is the massive drain on your mana compared to any of your other weapons, the second being the physical effect on the chair. Where the blade cut into the wood you can see green lines of light spreading out into the rest of the chair, causing the wood to splinter and crack along the lines. You've heard of this type of effect but never actually seen it before in person, mostly because it's less efficient than Pulse type modules in edged weapons. Examining your dagger, you can see that the edge where you blocked the saber is chipped pretty badly, but still usable. Thankfully, the blade itself is just a simple steel blade that can be replaced fairly easily.

(Acquired Enriched-steel Fraying Saber! Fraying modules cause a damage-over-time effect localized to where initial damage was inflicted via splitting and fracturing. Requires Shaper level 2 to use efficiently, costs 5 mana per use, has 20 points of charge and uses 2 per use.)

[part 1/?]

>>30661754
Aside from the uniform and saber, the vice-captain doesn't have much on him at all, not even a single piece of silver. You don't bother attempting to scoop up any of the ash that his bones have reduced themselves down to, you can feel the lack of mana in them. Soon the loyalists are released and armed with the gear of the fallen traitor guards inside the prison. Between your master's efforts earlier and the revolution itself, the number of rebel guards has decreased considerably, and what few remain are spread out thin enough that the sheer size of the loyalist guards encountering the rebel forces is enough to cause them to lay down their arms. Within a few hours of your prison break you, your master, and the loyalist guards have rounded up the majority of the revolutionary forces and have almost reached the Governor’s mansion, where the heart of the revolution has based itself. Soon enough you arrive at the mansion. The outside has been fortified as much as one would expect it would, given the time and manpower at their disposal. What surprises you most is the distinct lack of any forces outside the building. With no one outside to stop you, you think this should be easy, right?

So why do you feel so uneasy?

What do you do?
>Screw it, storm the front door with everyone
>Send in a couple guards to do some scouting
>Try and sneak in first
>Write in.

[part 2/3]

>>30661754

Interesting...

Are there any self-enhancing modules on the saber?

If someone named AI Strelok sporting a d100 shows up in this thread, please forgive my accidental namefagging.

>>30661782

>Write in

Ask our master about the magical bone-steroid we found on the captain.

Level gained: Slayer 1
Abilities gained:
-Reinforce :You consciously use your mana to harden your bones, making you slightly more resistant to damage as well as hitting slightly harder. (Sustained cost of 1)
-Salve: Using all the mana from bones, you can heal minor injuries you have taken in battle as well as help treat more major injuries outside of battle. (Cost per cast: 5 mana, one spin/limb/skull as a component per cast.)

Current levels:
Slayer: 1
Shaper*: 1
Speaker: 0

*Denotes specialty

Total base mana pool: 25


I'll take this time to talk a bit about leveling. So, there are 5 skill levels per tree and 3 trees. You started with 1 level in your specialty and 0 in the others and 20 base mana. From this point onwards you will gain 5 mana per non specialty tree level gained and 7 per specialty level gained. Levels 1-3 can be achieved through general combat, but 4 and 5 requires dedicated training or overcoming a trial using the skills in the trees. Prior to that, you can level the various trees in a couple different ways:
-General melee combat will contribute towards Slayer
-Crafting and using artifacts will help Shaper
-Casting spells will level Speaker

>>30661782
>Send in a couple guards to do some scouting
Send in the pawns first.

>>30661799
>If someone named AI Strelok sporting a d100 shows up in this thread, please forgive my accidental namefagging
Disgusting.

>>30661889

Can the rabbit-charm handle Reinforce?

>>30661945

that might just fuel their bone-ritual. I vote for sneaking in.

>>30661986
Then we might just fuel their bone ritual. Better them than us.

>>30661782
>>Send in a couple guards to do some scouting

>>30661986
Sorry if I didn't make it quite clear, slayer abilities like that don't actually require an external focus since the target of the spell is your own skeletal structure.

>>30661945
>>30662026
So I guess sending in a couple grunts won the vote. Writing.

>>30662026
>>30661945

Okay, I'll vote for it to get consensus. Tell them to come back at the first sign of trouble though. Just verify where the enemy IS NOT.

You pull aside a handful of guards and tell them to scout inside the entrance a bit and to come back at the first sign of trouble. They nod dutifully and approach the front door, weapons raised and ready for combat. One enters the building before giving the signal for the others to follow. After a few minutes they come out, looking worried but not panicking.

“In the foyer there was blood everywhere, but nothing and no one else.”

“What about further in,” your master asks.

The guards all look to each other nervously, their faces saying what their mouth's won't. It seems they didn't even entertain the notion of pushing in further after seeing the blood.

Well that doesn't bode well.

What do you do?

>Send everybody

>Grab a group of soldier and head in with your master yourself

>write in

>>30662316
>Grab a group of soldier and head in with your master yourself

Fine, sure.

>>30662316

Grab a group of soldiers and head in with your master and yourself.

>>30662316
>>Grab a group of soldier and head in with your master yourself

>>30662430
>>30662362
>>30662330
I think it's safe to call it here. Writing.

>>30662459

First action to 3 votes usually calls it anyway, unless there's significant dissension specifically against it.


I think we're all sort of hiveminding because we want more of your setting though.

Selecting a new group of soldiers, you and your master head inside the building, pistol and dagger drawn. Upon entering you confirm the initial report from the scouts: the foyer is soaked in blood, the furniture and portions of the wallpaper have been torn and shredded, by what you are unsure. Eventually you reach the Governor’s Office, and you see that the door is slightly ajar, a trail of blood leading inside. Peeking through the crack you don't see anybody inside. You wave one of the guards to move into the room, following after him.

Inside the room you see nothing too out of the ordinary relatively speaking, just a formerly ornately decorated office that has been torn up and soaked in blood. You are about to head back into the hall when you feel a drop of wetness hit your cheek.

Roll, 3d10.

Rolled 6, 6, 7 = 19

>>30662697

IT'S ON THE CEILING

Rolled 9, 8, 4 = 21

>>30662697

Rolled 10, 3, 8 = 21

>>30662697

Rolled 5, 2, 8 = 15

>>30662697

Rolled 6, 7, 8 = 21

>>30662697

>>30662552
I just want to leave an opportunity for other people to voice their opinions before moving on, although if I get a majority like that from now on and no other votes come in for a while I'll call it sooner.

>>30662767
>>30662737
>>30662733
>>30662779
>3 21's

Almost impressive.

Bump.

Instinctively, you leap to your left as a massive arm comes swiping down at where you were standing just a moment ago, clad in bone and gore. Looking up at the ceiling you see something shaped roughly like a man suspended there. It jostles in place and frees itself from whatever was holding it in place.

The figure towers over you and everyone else in the room. On its chest is the tattered remains of a very ornate guard uniform, on its hip hangs a saber, forgotten by its barer. Across its shoulders is a thick mantel of twisted bone. Through the holes in the uniform on its chest you can see a thick plate of bone covering its chest. From the sound it made when it landed on the floor, you can tell it is quite dense. It regards you with crazed eyes.

“Looks like we found Captain Issuss,” your master says, cracking her knuckles.

What do you do?
>write in

Mana: 25/25

>>30663169
Yeah, saw that one coming.

Give covering fire for our Master while she charges.

>>30663169

(Is our pistol loaded with marrow? Save that for a finisher)

Circle around opposite of our master and try to outflank it, tell the Loyalist Guards to back the fuck up and be sure to prevent it getting at them (replenishable life force, anyone? It's obviously already eaten all of its friendly guards).

The master should try to drive it with kinetic blasts onto our newly acquired saber, while we save the pistol to finish it off or to drive it off of our master if it presses her too hard.

>>30663169
By the way, the DC for avoiding injury was 20 on that check, 15-19 was minor injury, 10-14 was a semi-serious injury, and under that was a critical injury. 25 and up was a free counter attack on top of avoiding injury.

>>30663255
Pistol is just loaded normally right now.

>>30663259
should have a pastebin, or a post what abilities we can do.

>>30663259

I concur with that DC, though I would've inflicted a minor injury on us just to show us what's what.

We have a healing spell now, after all.

>>30663255
Did I mention we should cast Reinforcement? Because we should.

>>30663311
Our abilities are: Reinforcement (slightly increased resilience+damage), and Salve (heal minor injuries). Otherwise we only have utility/noncombat spells and our artifacts.

Artifacts are: Bone Sabre (Damage over Time Module), Bone Pistol, and Impulse Dagger (Kinetic Force module)

I will once Volkov actually gets to a point where that's necessary. Currently for combat, all he has is what he got at the beginning of the thread for a level up as well as his equipment. He has a couple of utility spells as well, but they won't do much of anything at the moment.

>>30663358
Pulse, when applied to a bladed weapon more or less turns it into an oscillating cutting edge.

A high frequency weapon, in other words.

>>30663358

Oh, we also have the ability to Overcharge any of our artifacts for a severe mana per turn cost and also a chance of damaging the item permanently after we conclude the overcharge. Meanwhile it boosts the ability(ies) of the weapon significantly though.

We can't do that to the pistol.

>>30663358
>>30663237
>>30663255
So is your course of action pretty much to cast Reinforcement as well as provide covering fire? If so roll 3d10.

Rolled 8, 7, 3 = 18

>>30663447

My vote was more for attacking in coordination with the Master while sending the guards away because they're soft targets, and saving the pistol for later (if it didn't do anything to the Vice Captain it sure won't do anything to this guy).

Rolled 7, 10, 6 = 23

>>30663447

Rolled 7, 1, 3 = 11

>>30663447

>>30663561
>>30663527
>>30663562
Writing.

You're about to shout to the guards to get out of the room but they're gone before you can even speak, the monstrosity of a former captain breaking morale just by being there. The captain charges at you, bony claws raised. You jump towards the side again but this time it manages to hit you as you jump, striking you in the side of your chest. The blow knocks the wind out of you and sends you tumbling away. Your chest aches as you try to stand, but at least nothing broke as you managed to harden your skeleton just before taking the hit. The captain turns towards you and charges again.

He doesn't quite make it this time as your master intervenes, her fist slamming into the side of his face stopping him in place. He looks down at your master and is about to swipe at her when you take your shot at him, clipping him in the side of the neck. It reels in pain momentarily but the wound quickly starts to heal.

What do you do?

>>30663900
Reload our gun. Distract him so our master can go in for the kill.

>>30663900
Use the saber
I bet that fracture effect will fuck this guy up.

>>30663900

Well this is only a man, though god knows what sort of a mana pool he has accumulated from all the soldiers he's consumed...

Reload our pistol with a marrow charge this time, try and look for where his implant is and attempt to dig it out with our overcharge dagger.

>>30663900
Shoot it in the head while it's reeling from the blow.

>>30663941

Seconding this, aim for the neck, or where-ever we think we can see the telltale sign of an implant.

Also, reload with a marrow charge first.

I don't really have quite a clear consensus here, but I guess you want to shoot again, this time with marrow while your master gets in close and then switch to saber?

>>30664152

I just want to reload (this time with marrow) and keep that as a hold-out while we move in and go for a neck-chop with the saber.

>>30664152
Same as >>30664177
I think the saber fracture effect will be super effective on what the captain has been transformed into.

>>30664177
I just need a consensus for a plan of action, so I'll narrow this to two options and call for a final vote on the matter:

Do as >>30664177 suggests and reload before drawing saber, or just firing at it again.

Vote 1 for reload and draw saber
Vote 2 for just reloading and firing again

>>30664264
1

>>30664264

Reload and draw saber.

>>30664264
1

>>30664264

1

>>30664264
1

>>30664303
>>30664291
>>30664281
>>30664279
Much better. Writing.

>>30664312

Wait, shit I forgot to ask for a roll.

Roll 3d10.

Rolled 7, 7, 9 = 23

>>30664335

Rolled 9, 6, 4 = 19

>>30664335

Rolled 3, 10, 4 = 17

>>30664335

>>30664360
>>30664352
>>30664341
Alright, writing for real this time.

You reload your pistol, this time with a marrow charge, and holster it before drawing your new saber, the weapon glowing a dull green in your hands. The captain eyes you with fury in his eyes and roars, shaking the room. He charges at you, claws raised, spikes of bone growing out of them. You charge at him as well, sword raised and charged with mana. As you and he enter each others range, you duck under his claws, dodging the brunt of the attack but still receiving a massive gouge down your back from one of the claw spikes.

You just grit your teeth against the pain and keep going, slashing across his chest with your saber. The mana drain from the saber making your arms sag a bit with exhaustion. The captain skids to a halt before turning towards you, seemingly unfazed by your attack. Your master is instantly between you and him though, arms raised in a boxer's stance. You can see the bones in her arms and shoulders growing a bit as she casts Expand and Reinforce, layering the enhancements together. She twists her body, putting all her might into an Impact powered punch from her left arm into the spot you struck. Her blow sends the captain flying into a wall, creating an impact crater. The bone plate on his chest has been shattered by the combined effects of being weakened by the saber and the immense force of the strike. Blood pouring out of the wound, the captain uses up the rest of his energy and bolts upright before attempting to flee through the door.

What do you do?

>>30664790
Chase and shoot

Rolled 10, 5, 1 = 16

>>30664790

Run after him and try to hobble him using the pistol and/or saber (or whatever works really).

Ask the Master if she thinks, him being low on mana most likely, a disjunction might be effective.

>>30664843

Might be able to pop his implant right out of him. I support this (mainly the hamstringing him though).

>>30664790
Shoot through the gap created in the armour.

>>30664945

I can't tell if he regenerated his armor yet or not.

>>30664832
>>30664843
>>30664945
Alright, roll 3d10

>>30664790
shoot him in the ass

>>30664843
>>30664832
>>30664945

Careful of a trap. He's still quite dangerous and he very much wants our blood.

Rolled 5, 5, 1 = 11

>>30664987
all one's

Rolled 1, 2, 9 = 12

>>30664987

Rolled 8, 10, 3 = 21

>>30664987

Rolled 3, 2, 9 = 14

>>30664987

As a note, do we gain experience in the Artificer tree ONLY when we make new artifacts, or also when we use their effects/overcharge without dealing damage to the weapon or draft designs, etc.

Rolled 3, 10, 10 = 23

>>30664987

>>30665043
You have narrowly prevented Bad Things™ from happening.

>>30665083
None from just drafting, but you do get experience whenever you use an artifact.

Drawing your pistol from your holster, you give chase to the fleeing captain with your master as best you can, the wound on your back screaming at you. In the hallway you can see that the captain has nearly made it to the foyer. You raise your pistol and take aim at his fleeing form and fire, the marrow boosted ball flying screeching through the air.

The ball impacts the back of one of his knees and takes off his leg below the site of impact. He screams in pain and falls to the ground, before attempting to crawl forward. You and your master catch up to his greatly reduced speed. As you approach him, you raise your saber to give the finishing blow, but just as you are about to bring it down on him he flips himself over to face you. His jaw unhinges and a skeletal arm comes shooting out of his throat.

Roll 3d10

Rolled 2, 8, 10 = 20

>>30665385

Rolled 4, 9, 5 = 18

>>30665385

>>30665458
>>30665409
Good enough, I guess.

Rolled 3, 3, 1 = 7

>>30665385

Rolled 5, 10, 7 = 22

>>30665385

>>30665385
Man, we gotta learn to do that.

>>30665385

So that's how these guys are made.

Intrigue. I like it.

>>30665699

Hah.

The arm manages to grab your throat momentarily, but before it can do anything you bring down the saber, beheading the captain. The lines created from the slash of your saber crawl through the stump of his neck, eventually reaching down into the base of his spine through the mantle of twisted bone, destroying the object that caused his transformation. The captain's body sags as its bones disintegrate in place. Breathing heavily, you collapse onto the floor of the mansion, blacking out temporarily, the combination of exhaustion and your wounds proving too much to handle.

A short while later you awaken on a tattered sofa, luckily free of blood. Your master sits next to you in a chair, having dosed off herself after treating your wounds. As you attempt to sit up you hear your master speak.

“Get some rest for now, you earned it.” Her eyes don't even open as she talks. Following her orders, you flop back down and pass out again.

Come morning you awake again, feeling much better than when you awoke last but still not at peak condition. You get up off the sofa, your master nowhere in sight. Walking around the mansion, you see a bunch of the loyalist guards positioned around the mansion, and they salute you as you walk by. You head into a restroom off the main hallway to clean yourself up. After a few splashes of water from a wash basin, you feel much more awake. Drying off your face you spot your reflection in a mirror. Your shaggy black hair is getting a bit too long for your liking, and a rough stubble is starting to develop on your jaw. You are beginning to develop bags under your blue eyes. Walking out of the restroom, you feel refreshed.

What do you do?
>Talk to a guard nearby, see what's happened while you slept
>Look for master
>Explore the mansion
>write in

>>30665918

>Explore the mansion

LOOT!!!!!!

I-I mean, look to make sure more of those nasty Spine-Eater artifacts aren't around.

>>30665918
>Look for master

>>30665918
>>Look for master

>>30666025
>>30666035

>Missing this opportunity to loot
Shame on you. What sort of adventurers are you?

>>30666049
This isn't loot, it's stealing. I doubt they have anything a bone mage really needs in any case.

>>30666049
Well we'll still be exploring the place, it's not like we can't pick stuff up while looking for her.

>>30666065

Governor's probably dead anyway, just saying adventurers can't usually afford to be White Knights.

>>30666035
>>30666025
Looking for master it is.

>>30666105
He is, but people still live here. They're not gonna have an easy time recovering from this attempted revolution, let's not make it harder for them by stealing their stuff.

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>>30666189

If you'd phrased it in a non white-knight fashion, like "this city has just experienced a rebellion against bone mages, and now you (a bone mage) want to go around stealing their stuff?" then you wouldn't warrant this picture.

>>30666241
The whole reason we put the rebellion down is because we wanted to save the town, so I'm just playing in character bro.

>>30666292

I voted for putting down the rebellion so that we didn't have to deal with a civil war further down the road and because of the promise of loot.

>>30666346
They probably don't even have any good loot. Calm yourself. We can loot when it's appropriate.

>>30666388

Fair enough. Maybe we'll get a reward out of this, help ourselves to the town armory or something. I suppose we got some silver pieces and lead balls too.

I'm not trying to be terribly hostile, apologies if I come off that way.

>>30666425
It's good that you told me that. Disabling all my panic room protocols once activated takes a long time and is really annoying.

Your dice system is interesting. It took me longer to calculate than I thought. The probability of rolling at least that number out of three rolls of 3d10.

15 = 95.639%
16 = 92.323%
17 = 87.500%
18 = 80.989%
19 = 72.790%
20 = 63.140%
21 = 52.545%
22 = 41.782%
23 = 31.853%
24 = 23.142%
25 = 15.877%
26 = 10.137%
27 = 5.881%
28 = 2.970%
29 = 1.195%
30 = 0.300%

>>30666447

Well jokes on you, because now you're going to get bone-marrow charged pistol ball in the face.

>>30666472
FUCK IT
ACTIVATING THE SYSTEM
THERE GO MY NEXT 2 HOURS

By the way, still writing this update, it's the last one for tonight.

>>30666462

Hmm. Seeing at the DCs of things have seemed to be 20+ for success (mild) and 15+ for failure (moderate) it seems he has appropriately placed those cutoffs.

>>30665918
>Talk to a guard nearby, see what's happened while you slept

Shit be fucked, yo.

>>30666462
Interesting data

Next time, use Anydice and save yourself a lot of time.

>>30666694

How would you input that into anydice?

You wander around the mansion a bit, looking for your master. After a bit of searching through the rooms, you find her in the office, standing next to a rather portly, older man. In front of them is a bloodied man tied to a chair. Walking into the room your master turns to you and waves you over.

“Volkov, glad to see you're up and about. This,” she motions to the man next to her, “is the former-vice governor and is now the interim governor until word from Luan comes to determine who will be succeeding the late-governor.” You and the man exchange greetings before your master continues.

“And this,” she says nudging the man in the chair, “is Darrin, also known as one of the leaders of this little insurrection.” You take a closer look at the man. His face is bruised and bloodied a bit, but it looks like he hasn't been actually tortured, just roughed up a bit.

“It seems he's the one that supplied the rebels with those items of interest, although he refuses to give a source for where he got them. We also know he isn't a mage, so he didn't make them. We did find this on her person, though.” Your master pulls out an amulet from her bag. It appears to be made of silver and has the image of a skeletal hand grasping a heart. You can feel a faint amount of magic in it.

“Normally,” your master says, “we'd probably just let our friend here meet his fate however the people of the town wish. However, because of the nature of this incident, we're taking him back with us to Xel'Karth.” The man grimaces when he hears this, and you can't blame him for it from the stories you've heard. With the business of the rebellion sorted out for now, you can your master exchange farewells with the interim governor before setting off for the docks with Darrin in tow.
[part 1/2]

>>30666813
“Say, master, why didn't you demand a reward from the city for this,” you ask on the way.

“Because, Volkov, sometimes doing good deeds is reward enough,” is the answer your master gives you.

“You're going to be getting paid by the Association for this, aren't you?”

“Them and the crown. The sacks of gold will be bigger than your head, Volkov,” she says with a grin.

Soon you are at the docks and have arranged for transport back home. As you settle in for the long trip back, you fall into a deep sleep, dreams of new designs popping into your head.
[2/2]


Alright, time for Q and A as per tradition.

>>30666694
I went to anydice and didn't know how to input the data so I did it myself.

I like math

>>30666852
Thanks for running

>>30666852

Will the Master permit us to examine the artifact-necklace? Does she still have the other artifact?

>>30666462
I didn't come up with the dice system myself, I lifted it from Deniable Assets Quest since it seemed like a better system than just 1d20/1d100

>>30666852
Thanks for running! Your setting is awesome!

>>30666905
The necklace itself is a very weak artifact, that much you can tell. What enchantment it has, however, you and your master are uncertain. The bone piece from the vice-captain she still has.

>>30666916
>>30666890
Thanks for participating! Next thread will reveal a lot more about the setting.

>>30666960

I'm sure it will. We'll finally get out of the pseudo-tutorial and be able to craft things.

Say, did we extract any more marrow and stuff from corpses?

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>>30666960
Can we combine our dagger and pistol?

>>30667005
Yeah, you harvested what you could along the way.

Also, as a treat I'm going to reveal some of the Slayer tree. Not all of it, and what's revealed won't be all of the stuff at those levels, but it will be a taste of what's to come.

>>30666960

How much forging expertise do we have? What's the difference between molded bone like our pistols and bone-reinforced steel like the sabre?

>>30667048
That looks rather unwieldy.

>>30667048
we probably could
but if it would look like that why would we want to?

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>>30667048
I suppose it would look more like this

>>30667080

Speaking of which, wouldn't the spiral/conch shell pistols and rifle from the first thread swirl all over the place while we were trying to aim?

>>30667111

Meh. We already have a blunderbuss.

>>30667071
Only the burst mechanism of the pistol is bone, the barrel itself is just iron. But back to the heart of the question, normal molded bone is strong, but not as strong as bone-enriched steel, and much less stronger than boneforge alloy. The upside is that pure molded bone channels and handles magic much better.

>>30667048
Maybe? It wouldn't be very practical.

>>30667137
So speakers would have pure bone stuff, and slayers would have boneforge stuff. Ideally.

>>30667112
I imagine it wouldn't be very accurate but I don't know. We should make a cast for minie balls.

>>30667125
We have the option of building a blunderbuss but we don't actually have one. We currently have one short range and two melee weapons. I would much rather build a sniper rifle.

>>30667161

I feel like Slayers don't really need to worry about wearing armor so much.

Though I could be wrong, we don't know if mage-on-mage warfare exists.

>>30667171
That's pretty meta.

>>30667178
My bad, we have an arquebus.

>>30667192
Uh, we do know mage on mage warfare exists
it happened this thread

and armor does not include weapons.

>>30667137
>It wouldn't be very practical.
Why?

>>30667192
>That's pretty meta.

I guess. Then again we were talking about making semi auto bone pistols in the other threads. Should be easy since we don't need propellant.

>>30667217
That wasn't warfare.

Also those weren't mages.

And Slayers can grow their own bones out/make new bones on their skin instead of needing armor.

>>30667220
It's either a big front heavy pistol or a clumsy knife with an awkward handle.

>>30667220
Have you looked at that design? It's pretty obvious.

>>30667236
If one mage can create a construct to fight another mage, the same thing can obviously happen on a bigger scale. Logic is fun. Try it sometime.

>And Slayers can grow their own bones out/make new bones on their skin instead of needing armor.

>Pure bone is much less stronger than boneforge.

Are you even trying?

>>30667192
>That's pretty meta.
I want to be this worlds Samuel Colt or Mikhail Kalashnikov.

If they aren't naming guns after Volkov Marulovich for the next 100 years then we failed at this quest.

>>30667236
>>30667265
Those were in fact not mages.

Also, mage on mage combat is a thing. You shouldn't worry too much about it yet.

>>30667268
Something to note about the setting: magic has been known about for a relatively short amount of time, so bone-based gun tech and traditional gun tech are still pretty close in design. As you progress further, this will most likely not be the case.

>>30667265

Let's try some logic then, my man.

>You know how we've only known magic for 100 years, well stories of things like that have been around forever
My my, sound like a lost art or something that otherwise is inaccessible to the mage community of humanity as a whole? Sure does to me.

That aside, you fail to account for the fact that mage numbers are very few among humans in this setting and that obviously there's some sort of centralized governing authority that has some sort of supervision/contact with most of them. Think that might be there to...I dunno...prevent full scale mage wars because mages are a precious commodity?

>Pure bone is less strong than boneforge
I'm pretty sure he's referring to crafting materials. Though you're right that a set of good boneforge armor is probably stronger than what your average (or even accomplished) slayer can grow on a whim, it's also probably prohibitively expensive.

Extrapolation is fun, you should try it sometime.

Also, some Slayer goodies for the future. These don't have fixed costs yet, but you'll get the general idea behind them.

Tier 2

Stitch – Force a severe wound temporarily closed, doesn't actually cure the wound. Combined with Salve, major wounds can be healed much more easily.

Expand – Temporarily increase the size of some bones for a sustained cost.

Leech – Absorb some of the mana from bones of deceased beings, very inefficient at first.

Tier 3

Extrude – Temporarily grow bone protrusions of various shapes and sizes. Varying sustained cost based on grown protrusion.

Quicken – Artificially animate your skeleton internally, increasing speed and strength dramatically. High sustained cost.

>>30667337

Mage on mage combat is something we've known about, because of the Master's arm story. I think the issue is whether mage on mage **war** is a thing, what with armies of mages taking the field and killing each other in droves, etc.

>>30667386
Not really full on armies, but the Association does offer mercenary services for a high price.

>>30667375
>Quicken – Artificially animate your skeleton internally, increasing speed and strength dramatically. High sustained cost.
Could this be used on enemies?

>>30667368
>obviously there's some sort of centralized governing authority that has some sort of supervision/contact with most of them. Think that might be there to...I dunno...prevent full scale mage wars because mages are a precious commodity?
Yeah, those don't work like that. Central governing authorities grab all their mages so they can use them in fights against other nations and their mages. Mage on mage combat proceeds to happen.

>it's also probably prohibitively expensive.
That's why I said ideally a slayer would have it. Ideally.


Extrapolation is indeed fun! While I commend your efforts to start thinking before you talk, I think you can still do a bit better....
Definitely room for improvement! B- for effort!

>>30667445

It'd be neat if we could develop shootable artifacts that would force an enemy to use a very expensive spell, and therefore burn out their life force/mana very quickly.

>>30667445
Not that one specifically, but there is something similar in the Speaker tree.

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>>30667337
will the guns get more and more anime like? Because I have mixed feelings about this.

>>30667479
disjunct?

>>30667488
Possibly.

>>30667532
No, that's a tier 0 ability. What I'm thinking of is high tier.

>>30667461

>Thinking that mages will fight for governments in their petty disputes without hefty recompense
>Thinking that mages would ever be turned upon their own over those petty disputes for any sort of recompense

The long and short of it comes down to neither of us knowing enough about the setting yet to make calls either way.

Also "slayers can grow their own armor that's pretty good, I don't think they really need to worry about it much."

"Top kek you dumbfuck, they need boneforge because bone is so weak, see above."

"Seems to me that boneforge is probably pretty expensive, and Slayers already probably make decent stuff"

"lel eedeeot, I said they'd have it ideally."

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>>30667534
I think I just found Volkov's goal in life.

>>30667588

Anyway, going to bed now because I'm not an Australiafag like you. Feel free to continue disparaging someone on the internet.

>>30667588
>Thinking that mages will fight for governments in their petty disputes without hefty recompense
>Thinking that mages would ever be turned upon their own over those petty disputes for any sort of recompense

I'm gonna need to bump that B- down to a C here guy, you're strawmanning. I know it's a daunting challenge to argue with me, but you're cracking here, implying I said governments wouldn't pay them. Of course they'd be paid, probably highly. Hell, our master in this very thread said she was getting huge bags of gold for putting down the rebellion.

>
The long and short of it comes down to neither of us knowing enough about the setting yet to make calls either way.

My calls are a hell of a lot more realistic than yours.

Not bothering with the fake exchange you put between us because it's pretty much you putting words in my mouth and idealizing your own posts.

I mean really, after seeing that you should feel relieved you're not in the D range.

>>30667729
Why didn't you give him the D anon?

>>30668206
I messed up a greentext line in my own post and took mercy, because I was reminded that humans are flawed.

Also I didn't want someone to make this comment.