Very quickly before we get started, I'd like to take a moment to address a few questions I missed at the end of last thread.
>Give us some of the standard high level techniques for Water.
At Master level, regenerating digits, hands, feet, and basically any particularly large, gruesome wound becomes cost efficient and feasible. You may be able to do that to some extent now, but not nearly to the level a Master can. Condensing water from the air in large quantities also becomes feasible. Basically you'd never need to worry about how much water you have ever again at Master level. You'd also have a damn near perfect counter for any ranged fire spells, condensing water around the spell to douse it in transit. Vatis that reach the rank of Grandmaster with water spells are basically immortal, usually only kicking the bucket after they off themselves or after a colleague is forced to put them down when they go insane.

>So how many Extreme sessions will it take to hit Master for Water?
If you meditated three times and got good rolls each time, you'd hit a plateau. To get past it you'd need to either do independent research (Basically putting some of the things I mentioned above into practice), use Water a whole hell of a lot (the more Vys you spend on element-related spells the closer you'll be able to get to the next level), or find a tome written by someone who was already a Master. After that meditating one more time would be all you need to bump yourself up.

You take a moment to refill your waterskin from the clear pool of water, or what's left of it after you turned a fair portion of it into roiling steam. Water supply replenished, you pull your underrobes back on and then your Centurion Armor. After your armor has sealed itself shut you adjust it briefly before pulling on your Vatis robes. It occurs to you that you'd probably look quite official if you really started to flash that signet ring of yours around. At least, to anyone with little to no knowledge of Pidjata.

Thus girded for the long night of travel ahead, you sit down for a breakfast what little is left of the stew Chryssa was cooking the night before. It's sitting in a sealed pot over a bed of embers, though when you open it you find it's still rather cold after sitting untouched for so long. You decide to flex your new understanding of fire magic to heat up the leftovers before eating, placing your hand over the top of the pot and channeling a small, almost imperceptible amount of Vys into your palm. There's a flash that briefly illuminates the cavern, and then you're left with piping hot stew.

(1/3)

Rather too hot actually, you charred the top layer completely. Still! Scraping that off you sit down to enjoy your stew and... wait. Damn it! The rest of it is lukewarm at best. Ah well, you'll just have to work on your control. You power through it just to get some food in you, then cover it back up and go outside to feed the guar check to make sure nobody absconded with your riches while you meditated. Chryssa comes out of her tent not long after and sits down to spoon out some of the leftovers for herself, glancing curiously at the pile of burned mush that resulted from your little experiment.

She gestures towards it with her spoon absentmindedly. “What's this?”

You shrug. “I had a breakthrough last night while meditating, I tried to heat up the stew before I ate.” A pause. “It didn't really work out.”

She looks at you oddly for a moment. You think, cautiously? Suspiciously? It's always difficult to tell with her. You decide to change the subject. “I have been meaning to ask, what are your plans? Is there anywhere you could go, any family you could stay with?”

(2/3)

She shakes her head. “I have been thinking about that. If I go back to my village, I'll be put to death for killing a guardsmen. Lackey to a corrupt murdering-” She trails off into her own language after that, still as stone faced as ever. You think you might be getting used to that but it's still unsettling. It isn't long before she cuts herself off and switches back to Samjan. “Vile man though he may have been. I was thinking about perhaps guarding caravans, or ships. A good archer is always in demand, and I was the best shot in the entire Dominion of Sosae.”

She pauses to eat for a few moments before continuing. “Or, I could travel with you. You have not been an overly offensive companion despite how grotesquely you seem to twist your face at a moment's notice.” Is she talking about smiling? What a dour culture she comes from. “At the very least I'll travel to Anthus with you, and perhaps depart there by ship or travel to Licae. I heard there was a ruin discovered there that might be worth exploring.”

>Suggest she join a ship's crew as a guard.
>Suggest she go to Licae.
>Write-in

>>30459157
>Licae

>>30459080

Ah yeah! Didn't expect you to run today.

>>30459157
>Suggest she go to Licae.

We could use the company and her knowledge of the land, but we doesn't have to decide now.

Writing for
>Suggest Licae

Rolled 1

You consider for a moment. If she goes to Licae, you'd obviously travel together. It means you might have to split what you find in the dungeon with her, and you'll need to make sure you have enough food to support two people and two guar. On the other hand, you're rich and the guar won't eat that much in the grasslands. As long as you can find some interesting things for Sadik you doubt he'd care if someone else helped you.

“I think you should go to Licae. I'm going there to investigate those same ruins for my patron.” You can decide whether or not to part ways afterward, it's not like it's a time-sensitive issue. The fact she was intending to explore those ruins does concern you though. That means they're well known, and you might have competition.

But first, you should focus on just getting out of the pass. After Chryssa has finished breakfast and packed up her belongings and her tent, you both mount your guar and set off northwards. Taking a rough estimate of the time, you'd say it was probably six hours after high noon, the sun will set soon but you should get out of the pass before midnight.

>Rolling to see if you get a Random Encounter

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>>30459470
>1
You do!
Writin'.

>>30459470
>nat 1
either the weakest enemy ever, or the strongest....

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As you ride north through the canyon, you notice something's off. Black smoke billows from around the next bend, and you see a number of barbed arrows protruding from the ground and the walls of the canyon. It reminds you of that slaughtered caravan you saw previously, on your first trip through the canyon. If you had to guess, you'd say that Aghtaki bandits only recently raided a group of travelers.

Your suspicions are proven correct when you round the bend to see a group of men picking over the corpses of four caravan guards and a trader. You see another group rummaging through his cart, shoving the trader's valuables into canvas bags. One man oversees each group, both of the overseers wearing Vatis robes with scarred over brands upon their cheeks. You can't tell what the brands say from this distance though. You're about to turn your guar around and try to flee around the bend, but one of them spots you and shouts out.

“Boss! There's two more, look like real rich fuckers!”

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That gets all their attention, and two of the men draw bows on you while one of the overseers breaks away to approach you and Chryssa. Chryssa, for her part, already has her bow unslung and an arrow nocked on the string. You're armed with your spear and your magic. Still, against two rival Vatis you're not sure how well you'd stand...

The overseer who's approached you stops a few meters away, within easy speaking distance but outside of attack range. “Get off your... fuckin' lizard things, hand over your weapons and valuables, then get out.” He speaks tersely. You doubt he's one for negotiation.

>You have the advantages of better equipment, and being mounted.

>Pull back your helmet flap to reveal the brand on your cheek. Try to claim you're one of them.
>Charge them from guar-back. (Initiate combat, you'll get a bonus to your roll.)
>Do as he says, wait until he gets close, then hit him with a paralysis spell.
>Actually just do as he says. You're outnumbered 9 to 2.
>Write-in

>>30459767
We're mounted and they aren't? Run the fuck away.

>>30459815
Seconding.

If They use magic then try to counter it with our own.

>>30459815
>>30459854
You could totally run away, though fair warning the two archers and the overseer would get an attack on you as you turned to run, and depending on rolls the other archers and other overseer may get to attempt an attack as well.

>>30459767
>>30459815

The sensitive choice. Stab the fucker with our spear if he gets on our way.

>>30459862
Hmm, then can we try the helmet flap first?

Maybe we can crit the diplomacy roll

>>30459896
Yeah, we should at least try it.

>>30459862
Acceptable, we are expert level in water
we can heal

>Attempt to convince them you're one of them
>Run away if it doesn't work.
Is the vibe I'm getting. Roll 3d10 to try and convince him.

>>30459896

We lose nothing trying but they will likely try to rob us for our shit anyway.

Rolled 4, 6, 9 = 19

>>30459943

Rolled 8, 6, 5 = 19

>>30459943

Rolled 9, 4, 1 = 14

>>30459943

Rolled 9, 7, 6 = 22

>>30459943
probably got a DC of like 25

>>30459943
Yes, try diplomacy. If it fails:
Attack quickly, then flee. Then Chryssa can shoot them from afar.

Rolled 5, 9, 7 = 21

>>30459976
>>30459986
>>30459999
>I'll say you get a +2 modifier for actually being an aghtaki, so you're not technically lying.
>21, 21, 16.
>Rolling for the bandit.

>>30460022
We need to learn the Range Metamagic. that shit's useful

>>30460041
>Regular Success!
>Jus' barley.
Writin'

>>30460041
Woot

So they let us pass but say if we run into you again then you die?

>>30460080
lol wait for the post man

>>30460057
You have what is essentially an instruction manual in your bag, just gotta study it and practice it.

>>30460071
You reach up to your helmet and detach a clasp, pulling it aside to reveal the scarred over brand on your cheek. After you're sure he gets a good look at it you once more snap the clasp closed, hiding the scar. “Listen, Brother. I've probably been at this a lot longer than you have. Why don't you let me pass and we both forget this incident?”

You see his expression soften, though he doesn't move to let you pass or motion for the archers to drop their weapons. Instead he lets out a low whistle. “Well look here, lads. Seem we've found ourselves one of our up-jumped brothers. Found himself some fancy armor and some weird animals, decided he's better than us.”

One of the archers calls out. “Are we gonna put him in his place, Boss? Want me to full him full of arrows?” As he says this, he draws his bow back and levels it at you, you prepare to spur your guar and charge. Before anything can happen the overseer motions the archer down.

“Nah, nah. Probably not worth the trouble. We'd kill 'im and take his pretty little friend here sure, but we'd lose too many of you mooks doing it for it to be worth it.”

One of the bandits in the cart shouts out. “Aww, Boss. I never knew you cared. I'm touched!” Which elicits some laughter from the rest of the peanut gallery.

(1/2)

Finally, the overseer turns his attention back to you. “Now, I'm not about to rob a Brother for everything he's worth. How about you pay...” He looks you over carefully, taking note of your equipment and clothing, before speaking again. “Seven hundred silver and we'll let you both go.”

>The terms are agreeable. Shell out.
>Hell no. Try to charge past them.
>Hell no. Try to turn and run.
>Hell no. Attack them.
>Try to negotiate a lower price.
>Write-in

(2/2)

>>30460283
Say 500.

If they insist then give them the 700.

>>30460283
One quarter of all our wealth? No.
>Attack the one before us, then flee.

>>30460260
Then we should get on that.

I wanna be able to control water from afar.

Would also be necessary for throwing Fireballs.

>>30460283
>>Try to negotiate a lower price.
Ask for 500, but let's not push it too much, if He starts to get angry placate him and give him the Silver.

>>30460362
I'm curious as to what exactly the Vys Metamagic effect does.

>>30460394
Didn't mean to quote that.

Rolled 2, 8, 8 = 18

>Try to negotiate down to five hundred.
Roll for it.

Rolled 10, 5, 6 = 21

>>30460418
Please no major failure.

Rolled 7, 7, 10 = 24

>>30460418
Super fail time

Rolled 5, 3, 3 = 11

>>30460418
Rollan.

Rolled 2, 10, 8 = 20

>>30460418

>>30460438
>>30460448
>>30460463
>21, 24, 11
>Regular Success!
Seriously might consider some sort of silver tongued trait soon. You've rolled inordinately well for everything speech related.

Come to think of it, it'd fit too. You were banished for slander.

>>30460312

This. If we don't negotiate, he'll think we're a bitch and might attack anyways.

Rolled 7, 6, 4 = 17

>>30460505
IT does fit us. Bonus to haggling and negotiating.

>>30460505
You stare at him for a moment before confidently stating. “Five hundred, you say you don't want to rob me of all I'm worth, Brother, and yet make such outrageous request of me?” You grin. “I thought I was supposed to be the liar here.”

He laughs, shaking his head. “Oh pah, you can obviously afford it! You're dressed as a king! Fine, fine. Six hundred, but not a penny less!” He seems serious about that too, because his hand moves to casually rest against his sword. A not-so-subtle threat.

You sigh, and reach into your saddlebag to count out the money. It almost physically hurts to part with the wealth you only just obtained, but it's better than getting into a fight you'll never escape from alive or at the very least in good condition. Eventually you collect all six hundred coins into one of the pouches on your belt, detach it, and toss it to him. He picks it up and counts it, before nodding.

“Alright, he's free to go boys. Give our Brother a good send off.” At first you think that may be code for 'Kill this fucker' but instead the bandits group together and start to sing as you ride by. You recognize the song as a bawdy old tune, which basically comes down to calling your mother a prostitute, your father a camel, and you an ugly son of a bitch.

Well, they certainly seem to have a good time at least.

>Just ride on, as quickly as possible.
>Tell Chryssa to fire off a few arrows before we get out of range.
>Write-in

>>30460669
As we ride past, pat him on like the shoulder and poison him with magic

>>30460669

>>30460696
This, then
>Tell Chryssa to fire off a few arrows before we get out of range.
(into them)

Kill them, get our money back

>>30460696

Nope, they got Vatis with them they notice and kill us play it smart choose the right battles.

>>30460669
>Just ride on, as quickly as possible.

>>30460696
>>30460756
no

We're at an impasse folks. Final destination style then.

Vote
1
To take some kind of hostile action.

Vote
2
To just pass on by.

>>30460756
>>30460696
just reminding you two that this encounter was rolled for with a nat 1

>>30460819
1

>>30460819
1

>>30460819
2

>>30460819
2

>>30460819
2

>>30460819
2

>>30460851
(but only from afar)

Forgot to mention 3-ish minutes ago.
>Writing for 2

>>30460819
2

Rolled 9, 4, 7 = 20

>>30460819
2

Rolled 5, 10, 6 = 21

>>30461119
I leave for a few minutes and you guys almost commit suicide? c'mon guys.

You simply ride by, spurring your guar into a full run for the next few miles before letting it slow down to a more relaxed trot. You're not happy about getting held up by bandits, but at least they didn't take you for all you're worth and then kill you anyway. That's a win in your book.
>New Wealth: 2262 silver pieces. Slightly less disgustingly rich.

You ride in silence for the next few hours. Chryssa eventually breaks the silence as you approach the exit to the canyon. “I think you made the right choice. That would have been a difficult fight and we recovered more than enough silver from that ruin.” You don't respond, though you know she's right.

Not long after that you break out of the mountain pass into the wide open fields of green. The sun has set and the moon has climbed high into the sky, though you think you probably still have about two hours until midnight. Because of how late you camped it won't be difficult to just travel through the night.

The question is, where will you go?
>Licae is a day away, if you set off now you'd reach it by morning.
>Anthus is a day and a half away. You could reach it by tomorrow afternoon. That's the major trading city.
>You could also explore the region, if you wished.

>>30461203
>>Anthus is a day and a half away. You could reach it by tomorrow afternoon. That's the major trading city.

>>30461203
>Licae is a day away, if you set off now you'd reach it by morning.

Better yet, ask Chryssa what she knows of this region.

>>30461203
>Anthus is a day and a half away. You could reach it by tomorrow afternoon. That's the major trading city.
gotta burn off them riches

>>30461203
explore I'm in no hurry

Rolled 9, 9, 9 = 27

>>30461141
If you'd wanted to do it then you should have at least have done it with a handshake.

>>30461203
>>Licae is a day away, if you set off now you'd reach it by morning.

>>30461203
>>Anthus is a day and a half away. You could reach it by tomorrow afternoon. That's the major trading city.
Spend some money for adventurer-stuff

>>30461270
Well then i'm gonna stop wasting all our good rolls.

>>30461203
Question: Do people immediately notice when they've been poisoned by Vys?

We should start reading the Range Metamagic manual while we ride.

>>30461302
Symptoms of the poisoning spell include an immediate onset of nausea, which rapidly worsens into vomiting, unconsciousness, and eventually death if cast by a powerful enough Vatis.

It also drains an enemy mage's vys pool.

>>30461226
>>30461246
>>30461287

>>30461270
>>30461240

>>30461268

>Writing for Anthus

>>30461341
So would the average person notice if we poisoned them through casual contact? what about a Vatis?

>>30461387
The average person probably wouldn't know it was a spell, but would know something is up. A vatis would know immediately, and may be able to counteract it.

>>30459097
guys we should go to the water temple.

>>30461404
Of course, but after we loot and spend.

We can go to the Water temple and stay there for a few days while mastering Water and Range.

>>30461459

I figure we should upgrade our Guar, get some supplies, and buy some magic-improving artifacts

>>30461548
sure, and maybe check out some books as well.
I also like the cart idea.(having one around so we aren't limited and we could always ditch it/hide it)

You decide to head to Anthus. You don't quite feel comfortable hauling around this much silver, so you'd like to blow it on new gear and move on. Then again, maybe you should think about buying a house or some land? Hell, you have enough silver on you that a plantation and staff to farm it wouldn't be out of the question.

Visions of all the things you could buy dance through your head as you start to ride to the northwest. It isn't long before you find the old Rhynian road that Sadik mentioned and follow it, going left whenever you come to cross roads. After a few hours of this you come across a large stone stele with directions and graffiti scrawled across it. You go left, towards Anthus, though if you'd gone right instead you would've been headed towards Licae.

While you ride you chat with Chryssa to pass the time. You ask her what she knows about Anthus and its subsidiaries. It turns out she doesn't know much. She knows that Anthus is one of the wealthier city-states in the region and it's also the largest, but besides going on that diplomatic mission with her father once she's never traveled across the border very far. Supposedly they're much more tolerant than her homeland is. You remain somewhat doubtful about that but hopefully she's right.

Anthus is mainly a trading kingdom, though Licae was supposedly a city build up around silver mines in the lowland hills, and it's famous as an exporter of iron from its outpost in the mountains and cliffs to its south.
(1/2)

>>30461548
We're already set on supplies, but we should stock up on food. So Food, Weapons and Armor, Magic (Tomes and Items), Get another Guar for storage?

>>30461605
There are a lot of disadvantages to having a cart, i'd rather just get another Guar.

>>30461605

Might be worth hiring out another warrior. We're the Mage, and it seems the demon lady is a master archer. To round out the whole package we ought to have a bruiser-type fighter on our side.

>>30461663
another guar will eat us out of house and home though, maybe there is an in between.

>>30461670
we are more like a monk, so a warrior isn't needed.

>>30461693
Dude, we're in the Grasslands.

>>30461670
We're the allrounder. Right now we're Swordmage though. Specializing in Melee combat. And other people are too much baggage.

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By dawn, you're starting to notice that the air is a little colder, and you can smell salt water on the breeze. You're getting close to the Great Sea. Only a few hours later you're traveling along a short cliff that separates the sandy shoreline from the grasslands, and in the distance you can spy a massive city. It seems to have been built upon a spire protruding from the ocean, and a great bridge spans the distance between it and the mainland. It's truly a burgeoning city, large enough even to rival El-Amin.

You arrive just before noon, and the city is crawling with activity. Everywhere you look people are ferrying crates around the docks that surround the city on all sides, carrying goods to and from massive warehouses that seem to be carved from the mountain itself. The streets are filthy and packed with people as you ride by. You're forced to dodge carts and pedestrians both, which seem to refuse to alter their course even the slightest bit to let you pass.

In short, it reminds you of home.
>Go directly to the markets to make our purchases.
>Find a nice inn to stay at, one of the really classy joints.
>Find a money changer, convert some of this silver coinage into gold.
>Explore the city! You haven't been in a proper urban center since you left El-Amin.
>Write-in.

>>30461729
>Swordmage
except we are specialized in using spears and healing magic.

>>30461766
>moneychanger

>>30461766
>>Go directly to the markets to make our purchases.

>>30461766
>>Find a money changer, convert some of this silver coinage into gold.
>>Go directly to the markets to make our purchases.

>>30461773
paralysis has been our go-to. and you're arguing sematics.

We need Range to enter the :mage" class.

But it doesn't matter, since we're gonna be the allrounder explorer.

money changer better prices with local money

>>30461766
go to money changer later, we don't have to change just to spend the gold directly after
>market first
(inn and exploring later)

>>30461766
>>Explore the city! You haven't been in a proper urban center since you left El-Amin.

We should look for housing. Something inconspicuous but in a nicer neighborhood.

>>30461766
>>Find a money changer, convert some of this silver coinage into gold.
then
>Go directly to the markets to make our purchases.

>>30461867
We aren't staying here.

>>30461864
better to carry around a purse with 200 gold than a crate with 3000 silver

the second is unwieldy and attracts attention

>Money changer.
Writin'

>>30461800
>>30461864
>>30461867
>wanting to get our money stolen
Street urchins
>wanting us to be overcharged becuase of our bags of money
We should take off our shit before buying stuff.
>Wanting to carry all that heavy shit
It already fills most of our bags.

>>30461908
Yes

>>30461867
No, we ain't wasting our time in a city, we're going exploring.

>>30461931
>>wanting us to be overcharged becuase of our bags of money
>We should take off our shit before buying stuff.
Ehh, could go either way. The owner of a Weapon shop or an Enchanted Items Shop would take us more seriously, while someone who sells travel goods or food will charge us more.

>>30461931
>We should take off our shit before buying stuff.
Our shit implies we have experience and know what we're talking about, means less bullshit. They won't try to sell us some piece of junk and tell us it's hot shit.

>>30461766
>>Explore the city! You haven't been in a proper urban center since you left El-Amin.
But stay away from the bad parts of town.

>>30461918
Som I don't know if this has been answered yet but is it possible to infuse magic like paralysis or poison into an arrow and shoot it?

>>30461966
>>30461992
ok so lets wear it there, but take it off every where else, i don't feel like getting over charged.

>>30461999
It dissipates as soon as it leaves our hands, i think we would need to do something to fix that, but i forgot.

>>30461999
It was one of the first questions asked, and no it isn't.

>>30461995
We have shit to do. Like exploring ancient ruins and learning powerful magic and exploring old water temples.

>>30462003
How about we just take it off for simple stores and wear it everywhere else?

>>30462003
We should also see if there's any benefits in settling down here one I see is that it's a major trade city we
1:Lots of items
2: We could get merc jobs guarding trading caravans or ships (Probably would have to completely remove or brand scar though)
Any thoughts?

>>30461999
It would require the Range Metamagic.

You decide it would be best to find a money changer first. Some merchants might give you gruff for using foreign currency, let alone ancient foreign currency that's been out of mint for centuries. Plus, you don't like carrying around so many bulk coins.

You ride through the city towards the market district, where money lenders and exchangers typically set up shop. It isn't long before you find a place. It even has a spot for you to tie up your guar outside. You leave Chryssa with the bags to guard them while you go inside to negotiate with the money exchanger.

As you enter the shop you find a well furnished lobby with a small desk on the opposite end, where a frail looking, dark-skinned human sits writing something or other. As you enter, he greets you in a language you don't understand. When you don't respond, he looks up from his paper and looks more closely at you. “Ahh! Samja! You speak Rhynian, yes?”

Well thank god, this would've been impossible otherwise. “Yes, I do. I'm here to exchange silver for gold. What rates do you charge?”

(1/2)

>>30462003
we should just work on some negotiation/persuasion like soma suggested earlier. better prices and could keep us out of trouble

>>30462097
He gestures to a board next to him, before realizing the symbols probably mean nothing to you. He'd be right. “Well, for what you're asking I charge twenty percent for everything less than one hundred silver, ten percent for everything between one hundred and one thousand silver, and five percent for anything over that.” Huh, that's actually a pretty good rate. Back in El-Amin the greedy bastards would charge bulk ten percent no matter how much you were exchanging.

How much silver did you want to convert into gold?
>500
>1000
>2000
>All of it.

>>30461999

>>30462023
>>30462076
These Anons got it.

>>30462075
The only way we can settle down here, is if we buy a store or storage place.
The former would be a deal done withour merchant friend.

>>30462132
>2000

>>30462132
>>2000

>>30462132
All of it

>>30462132
>>>All of it.

>>30462149
We aren't settling down here.

>>30462132
>2000

>>30462132
All of it.

>>30462149
Have you been hear for the other threads? We're going for the "exploring the vast and crazy cool world" which means we won't be staying here.

>>30462132
>All of It
Oh, by the by.
Silver exchanges to gold at a rate of 15:1, so 1 gold is worth 15 silver.

So you'll exchange the closest number with 15 as a factor for gold, and the rest will stay silver.

>>30462132
>>2000
Not all of it, because we need some small change (= silver). It's always strange to pay one beer with a $100 bill after all...

>>30462203
which is why i said the only way its possible is if we buy a store or a storage place.

>>30462238
Did you see who i was replying to?
>We should also see if there's any benefits in settling down here one I see is that it's a major trade city we
My response
>The only way we can settle down here, is if we buy a store or storage place.
I never said about staying, i was talking about a place to store our shit or sell it if he wanted to settle down.

>>30462149
>>30462238
>>30462203
Yeah if we ditch this whole Explorer Wanderer then vibe i'm dropping. That's the best thing about this quest.

Op has created an awesome world for us, lets go and see it all.

>>30462238
I was suggesting that because it would be beneficial to have a set location we could gain contacts, influence, and possibly power as well as having a good place to sell our glorious loot as well as buy items

>>30462283
My bad, just thought you were suggesting that, i've been readying myself to combat our explorerness. i just overreacted.

>>30462317
We ain't going to be staying here for long. And it's better to keep what we have with us and sell it when we want.

>>30462317
Not so much settling more like buying storage space and what not could've worded that better my fault

>>30462385
It's not like we have much to store. maybe if we ever get something large that we want to keep and can't bring with us.

You smile. "Well, you can count yourself lucky, friend. I'll be trading somewhere in the neighborhood of 2100 silver." That seems to get the money exchanger's attention, and he pushes himself up out of the chair. "Well, my most honored customer! Allow me to fetch someone to help you."

He rushes into the back, while you walk outside and start detaching your saddlebags and carrying them in one by one. Sheesh, these are heavy... You might want to let Chryssa carry these in while you stand guard. Fortunately, just as you're about to suggest this, a burly young man walks out wheeling some sort of strange half-cart in front of him. You indicate which of the bags the silver is in and then help him load the cart, which he leans back and uses to cart the silver in all in one go.

After you and the merchant count out all of the silver in your possession, you find that you've got 2112 pieces of silver. You also have 10 gold pieces, which you drop into one of your pouches. The merchant will exchange 2100 pieces of silver, take 105 as his 5% fee, and then give you 133 gold pieces in return

By the end of it, you've got 143 gold and 12 silver jangling in your pocket, for a total of 2157 worth of silver.

>To the markets!
>Explore!
>Find an inn to drop some of our stuff off and maybe rest.

>>30462463
>>To the markets!

>>30462463
>markets

>>30462463
>>To the markets!
Can we take of our expensive looking shit, when we get near the normal stuff, but have it on for the weapons places.

>>30462463
>>To the markets!
Weapons first.

>>30462463
markets, Inn for the night then gtfo before something side tracks from our quest

>>30462463
>>Explore!
Also keep the moneypouch somewhere safe on your person.

>>30462463
Markets maybe buy some more food or try to get a magical tome

>>30462521
You doubt that it's socially acceptable to change clothes in public. If you found an inn you could drop your armor and more expensive looking items off and then shop.

>>30462538
Also seconding. inside our armor or something like it.

>>30462552
That's fine, we'll just wear it then.

>Writing for SHOPPING.

>>30462552
Screw it we are just gonna have to haggle them.

I've been reading the thread, I can't believe you actually allowed those bandits to take your silver, goddamn. What a pussy move.

>>30462629
Be quiet.

>>30462629
buttmad that your fight votes didn't win?
maybe you should try making smarter votes

>>30462629
There were two mages as well as several bandit archers
With those numbers would you trust the Dice gods for victory?

I found this in the pastebin and figured people should see it.
Levels in the Five Basic Elements
Grandmaster: No further advancement.
Master: DC 35 to gain insight.
Expert: DC 30 to gain Insight.
Vatis: DC 25 to gain insight.
Apprentice: DC 20 to gain insight.
Novice: DC 15 to gain insight.

>>30462629
It was either that or die. we aren't stupid and we don't have an excess of pride.

>>30462648
fuck you faggot

>>30462657
I just got here cocksniffer

>>30462672
yeah, he's been updating the pastebins without much of a warning.

>>30462629
troll please leave.

>>30462681
>>/b/

>>30462672
huh so to master water we would need to pass a dc of 35.

>>30462681
lol ok
I believe you
no really
enjoy your rectum ravaging

>>30462681
please go back to /b/ or choose some other quest to shit up

>>30462726
I'm up for trying to master it.

>>30462681
>I called somebody a name on the internet!

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You set fill your moneypouch with coins, it's almost surreal that all those thousands of coins now fit within a single pouch, and then reattach your saddlebags to your guar. You feel around your armor for somewhere safe you could put your money pouch and find that around your belt there is a small pocket about the size of the purse. You stuff it in there, and it sits comfortably and well hidden. Man, this armor really does have everything.

After that, you and Chryssa remount. You briefly turn to her and say. “If you see something you like just tell me, I do owe you after all for what you've done to help me.” She nods in response, but doesn't say anything. You get the feeling she's a little scared being around so many people in such a small space.

(1/2)
(Keep it civil folks, or try to at least.)

>>30462726
No, only 30. it takes 35 to go from Master to Grandmaster. but we'd get very large modifiers from trying it multiple times, intense training methods, Tomes, and probably a few other things.

>>30462790
no its 35, last time for novice it was 15.

>>30462790
to get to grand master we have to do something special, so the DC is probably 35 for master.
>>30459097
>If you meditated three times and got good rolls each time, you'd hit a plateau. To get past it you'd need to either do independent research (Basically putting some of the things I mentioned above into practice), use Water a whole hell of a lot (the more Vys you spend on element-related spells the closer you'll be able to get to the next level), or find a tome written by someone who was already a Master. After that meditating one more time would be all you need to bump yourself up.

>>30462816
Then i think Soma made a mistake because if that were true then there's no way to reach Grandmaster.

Clarification Soma?

>>30462849
I'd like Somas word on this

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After that it's off to the markets. You know you're already near-by, by nature of being near the moneylenders, but you can't be entirely sure where they are exactly. You set off in the general direction of where you think the ports are and before long emerge into a large, wide open plaza. It seems this is the main thoroughfare of goods into and out of the city, judging by the cranes that line the docks to unload incoming ships and the, quite frankly, massive statues sitting atop the short wave breaker that surrounds the port in the distance.

Merchants stalls fill the plaza, small shops surround it on all sides, and people even wander around hawking goods from rolling carts. There are people playing music at every corner for tips and others selling what you think might be kebab. You're assaulted by strange smells and stranger sights and sounds.

What do you look for first?
>Weapons
>Armor
>Something Esoteric (Think magical tomes and the like)
>Write-in

>>30462852
Keep in mind that methods of meditation you know now can give you up to a +6 modifier, and more extreme methods will give you larger modifiers up to a maximum of +10.

>>30462849
This Anon is partially correct. You need to both pass a meditation roll at a difficulty of 35, and you need to do something special. Find some artifact, make some sort of major breakthrough in your research, or find some lost tome written by a grandmaster before he went insane.

They way I figure it works is like this:

>we're at Novice and meditate
>we need to roll over 15 for an insight
>we're now at apprentice
>repeat 2 more times for Vatis and Expert
>find a master's tome or use a lot of water spells
>roll over 30 (since we're at expert), if we succeed we're a Master
>to get to Grandmaster we probably need some artifacts or find a grandmaster or something and beat a DC of 35

>>30462951
So the DC for Master is 30?

>>30462951
>>Something Esoteric (Think magical tomes and the like)
we have pretty good armour and weapons, so lets save that for last.

>>30462995
Correct.

>>30462951
>>Weapons
We already have bitchin armor.

>>30462951
>>Weapons
Lets find us a spear.

>>30462951
>Weapons, let's see if we can find a cool spear

>>30463000
Our weapon is shit. Just a basic spear.

>>30462951
>>>Something Esoteric (Think magical tomes and the like)
We grow stronger the more we read, so lets get us some books and maybe an artifact.

Writing for
>Look for new weapons, specifically a new spear.

>>not wearing 6 necklaces, 13 rings, 2 sets of armor, having 2-3 pairs of boots an gloves, 2 back up weapons, ranged weapons, hidden blades and daggers, and 17 piercings.
>>all of which are enchanted
>nigga step up your game

Just gonna drop this hear.

>>30462951
Pull out our lute and lay some sick beats

>>30463141
Why would we want to do that?

>>30463141
Oud

>>30463163
Lol Money and fame baby

>>30463209
Please go back to /b/ already, no one wants you here.

>>30463048
Our weapon is well made but basic.

>>30463247
So compared to the rest of our stuff, shit. useable but we'll want to trade it in as soon as possible.

>>30463233
Different guy it was a joke a poor one at that

>>30463271
i'm hoping we get a cross bow since we are soon gonna learn ranged magic.
> Ritual Book of Surya (3/16 Chapters Read)
>Metamagic Instructions: Ranged (Unread)

>>30463233
it's hilarious how some of you agreed with my other posts after I complained about giving money away and now you're thinking everyone who is against you is me

>>30463287
Sorry, I'm just on edge after him.

>>30463306
I'm thinking we stick with using our abilities for Ranged as it will be cheaper.

To imbune a crossbow bolt with paralysis we'll need 1 for paralysis 2 for Imbune Weapon and 2 for Ranged. While using them basic only costs 3 total.

You decide to see about finding a new weapon. You like your spear, it's served you well since you were tossed out into the desert, but it's far from the best weapon you could afford. You start to ride through the marketplace slowly, taking in the sights and sounds. People shout at you as you pass, claiming to have the number one best whatever it is they're selling. You mostly ignore them. Chryssa pulls her guar closer to yours though, eyeing everyone and everything you pass suspiciously.

You wave to get her attention. “Relax, Chryssa. You look like you're about to panic.” You try to say that soothingly, though she snaps at you in response.

“How can you be sure?! There's a thousand people here, any one of them could want to stick a knife in your side!” Well damn, this is the most you've ever seen her react to... anything. You'd think she would've remembered it being like this from when she visited as a little girl. Guess she grew a little claustrophobic over the years. Plus, you note that she seems to be getting quite a bit more attention than you are. You'd guess it's the massive horns protruding from her forehead.

“Just relax, we'll be out of the market before you know it. Why don't you help me look for a blacksmith selling spears to distract yourself? It'll make things go quicker.” She glares at you, but seems to take your advice.
(1/2)

>>30463357
oh no it won't be our main weapon, but its still a good tool to have since it allows us to snipe, plus a good weapon to have if we are running away, and have a small pool of Vys.

>>30463357
Isn't it just 1 for Weapon Affinity? So 4 total?

>>30463336
Unless you were on the losing side of the DC for Master argument then no one agreed with you, you agreed with them. We all agreed on the spear, it wasn't a revolutionary idea

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>>30463384
A few minutes later she taps you on the shoulder and points towards a shop where a burly looking elf is hunched over an anvil, hammering away at what looks to be a spearhead. Good eyes, this one. The two of you turn your guar and force your way past the crowds, eventually making your way over to the man and dismounting. He douses the blade as you approach and stands up straight, wiping his brow. You note he's quite old, and quite scarred. One of his ears is half missing and he's got a long white beard. You also note he's covered head to toe in ritualistic tattoos. Perhaps a vatis?

“What can I get you two? I sell all variety of blades and armor. I also do custom work.” He says quickly in Rhynian.

>Order something custom
>Ask to see what he has in stock.

>>30463421
Metamagic effects cost 2

>>30463435
>>Ask to see what he has in stock.

>>30463435
>>Order something custom
>>Ask to see what he has in stock.

>>30463435
>>Ask to see what he has in stock.
Also mention our ores of silver to him, we can use this to bargain for this
>>>Order something custom

>>30463435
>>Order something custom
The Best Spear you can make/have.

>>30463456
Most metamagic effects only cost 1, they bump your pool up by 2 when you learn them.

>>30463456
It's only 1. Paralysis + weapon affinity spear costs 2 and we've used it a few times already.

>>30463459
>Ask to see what he has in stock

get a timetable for custom work

>>30463435
>>Order something custom
>>Ask to see what he has in stock.
The best spear he has, or if he could make on better than what he has and how much better would it be and how long would it take.

Also mention te 100lbs of silver.

>>30463498
>>30463485
My bad, i mixed them up.

so the costs would be 2vs3

Writing for
>Ask to see what he has in stock.
>Ask for more info regarding custom work.

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>>30463435
>Order something custom
A ranseur

>>30463481
>>30463503
>>30463508
Seconding.

>>30463546
I don't know if our affinity carries over to non-spear polearms.

>>30463508
Speaking of that do the beasts we might encounter have any specific weaknesses or resistances to different materials?

>>30463592
Probably a few, but they are so varied and unique that i don't know if we can prepare for them al.

Lets just get the Adamantium equivalent for this setting.

>>30463653
If it exists.

>>30463711
The equivalent or some other top notch material.

>>30463744
That might just be steel bro

>>30463756
Might be.

You think for a moment and then nod to the old elf. “Let me see what you have in stock first, then we might discuss custom work.” It seems the most reasonable course of action. After all, you want to make sure what he has is good quality before you commission anything from him.

He nods and then leads you into his shop. The walls are lined with old, chipped blades and cracked spears. Each one with a small plaque below it detailing what broke or damaged it. Apparently this old man has a pretty crazy collection. Spears broken off inside Palaka worms, blades chipped in duels against some of the greatest fighters of the modern age, people you've heard of even all the way in Pidjata. Eventually he leads you to the back where he seems to display his newer weapons.

They come in all variety of shapes and sizes, some seem to be half spear and half axe, others have wide wings spanning out from the spear tip, presumably to catch blades. Some are long, others short. Basically any variety you could ask for, and he's got swords and armor too.

“So how long would it take, roughly, to get a custom spear made?” You ask, while inspecting his wares.

(1/2)

He shrugs. “Ooh, depends. If you want a wooden haft it'd be two days or so. Metal haft probably three. I usually charge about five gold for a simple job. I'm also familiar enough with ol' Rhynian tech I could probably incorporate some simple things. Make it adjustable length, make it amplify spell effects, that sort. Gets expensive though.” That seems reasonable, usually blacksmiths back home charged about 60 silver, so a little cheaper than you'd think is usual actually.

>Buy one of the spears he's got in stock.
>>Basically, specify a type of spear or spear-like weapon (Halberd, bill, pike, ranseur, et cetera) and I'll tell you what kind of bonuses it would provide. You'd also be able to specify 1 special property you'd like the weapon to have.

>Commission a custom work.
>>You would get to describe the weapon and state what kind of bonus or special property you'd like it to have.(eg. +4 bonus to damage avoidance, +2 bonus to damage). Custom weapons can have a maximum of 2 different modifiers or special properties, but you'd have to stay in town until it's done or at the least live with using your current weapon.

I'll give this a shot, if it proves too unwieldy I'll try something a bit more definite and scripted.

>>30463884
>>Buy one of the spears he's got in stock.
Glaive.

>>30463884
>>Commission a custom work.
>>>You would get to describe the weapon and state what kind of bonus or special property you'd like it to have.(eg. +4 bonus to damage avoidance, +2 bonus to damage). Custom weapons can have a maximum of 2 different modifiers or special properties, but you'd have to stay in town until it's done or at the least live with using your current weapon.
mention or 100bs of silver

>>30463884
>Custom. Is there a bonus that eliminates the vys cost when using affinity with the weapon? Because that and damage avoidance.

>>30463884
We want to amplify spell effects for sure. The thing doesn't have to be particularily lethal because our go-to attack is paralysis. So, damage avoidance?

>>30463884
Mention the Silver

>>30463955
Seconding.

>>30463955
I'll clarify a little bit.

It can't be retractable, amplify spell affects, provide +4 to Speed, and +4 to Dodge. It can only do any combination of two of these options.

So, for instance. Retractable and +4 to dodge.

Amplify Spells and +4 to initiative

>>30463950
>>30463978
You'll mention silver ore when we get to payment.

>>30463954
There's no effect that would just completely cancel the vys cost, but the amplify spell effects basically gives you more bang for your buck.

>>30464012
Then change it to Amplify Spells and +4 to Initiative

>>30464034
Amplify spells and Dodge

>>30463884
changing
>>30464006
to>>30464038

>>30464038
second

>>30464012
Right, so how about
>Amplify
>Damage avoidance

Are these abilities on top of whatever traits the head confers? If so I vote ranseur.

>>30464012
then amplify spells and something speed-related, i.e. this:
>>30464038

>>30464038
Initiative is nice but if we're gonna fight more than 1 opponent that dodge is gonne be more useful.

>>30464038
Metal Haft as well. and we only need to hit first and the paralysis/poison goes into affects.

>>30464034
i think you should give us a list to choose from, instead of it being part of custom.
So we choose custom, and then he gives us a set of choices and what they do and so on.

>>30464100
Nah, with initave we can take them outta the fight faster, 1 prick and they're done. plus spears are naturally unwieldy as fuck.

>>30464107
Yeah, I think I'll do that. One moment while I type up a few options.

>>30464118
which is why i want us to get a ranged secondary.

>>30464135
But that starts sinking a lot into our Vys having to enchant Vys for each shot.

Id rather just hit them with paralyzed icicle out of thin air.

>>30464166
who says about using Vys with it, a ranged weapon is always good, and your method is bad early on since we have such a small Vys pool.

>>30464195
would only take two to do it, maybe 3.
while using our spear would take 2
the crossbow would take 3 per shot

So it seems like
>Order custom weapon won out.
and
>Amplify Spell Effects
is a pretty clear favorite.

You could get the following combinations as examples.

1
>+4 Damage Avoidance with Amplify Spell Effects
This would be a ranseur-esque spear with wide protrusions around the tip to catch enemy blades/spears. This bonus would be cumulative with your armor.

>+4 to Damage, AmpSpell Effects
This would likely be a spear with a barbed tip, which would cause truly hideous wounds when it was pulled out.

+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects
Basically, this would be a spear that's on the shorter end of things, probably lighter too, with a small spearhead. It'd be more maneuverable in tight quarters. It'd make using a spear more practical in more situations. (I'm using maneuverability to replace initiative, since initiative is often something decided without rolls.)

>Amplify Spell Effects, Retractable
This would be a spear not unlike your current spear, except with a metal haft that it can recede into. Useful for hiding weapons and surprise attacks, as the spear would expand with enough force to puncture many types of armor.

>>30464195
>>30464226
>+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects

>>30464226
>+4 Damage Avoidance with Amplify Spell Effects

We have the hidden blade for maneuverability in tight spaces

>>30464226
>+4 Damage Avoidance with Amplify Spell Effects

We already have a hidden weapon and it can be used in tight quarters.

>>30464226
>+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects
>Basically, this would be a spear that's on the shorter end of things, probably lighter too, with a small spearhead. It'd be more maneuverable in tight quarters. It'd make using a spear more practical in more situations. (I'm using maneuverability to replace initiative, since initiative is often something decided without rolls.)
we need to be able to us it indoors

>>30464226
>+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects

>>30464259
This Anon makes a good point, Soma mentioned earlier it doesn't take long at all to get the hidden blade out of where it's hidden.

>>30464226
>+4 Damage Avoidance with Amplify Spell Effects

>>30464226
>>+4 Damage Avoidance with Amplify Spell Effects
>>30464218
I just said its a good weapon and we don't need to amplify our shots every time, like we don't amplify our spear every time.

>>30464226
>>+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects

>>30464226
>>+4 to Maneuverability, AmpSpell Effects

>>30464226
>>+4 to Damage, AmpSpell Effects

>>30464273
We already have a sword for that, and Chryssa can teach us to use it better.

>>30464226
Mine doing a number vote.

>>30464283
>>30464267
Even using a dagger in place of a primary weapon.

No one just drops their main weapon in the middle of a fight. if you want to do that get a short sword

>>30464291
>>30464292
really? at least make it believable.

>>30464226
Alright. LAST ROUND OF VOTING SO WE CAN MOVE ON!
FINAL DESTINATION

VOTE
1
For +4 Damage Avoidance

2
For +4 Maneuverability

>>30464303
We don't have a sword.

>>30464323
1

>>30464323
1

>>30464323
2

>>30464323
1

>>30464323
1

>>30464323
2

>>30464323
2

>>30464329
The Compact Sword is an ancient Elaudian short sword that extends and retracts from the carved ivory grip.

>>30464323
2

>>30464329
Read the links in the OP, before joining a quest, Jesus Christ.

>>30464329
Gear:
Bhala Spear (+1 Racial Affinity)
Suri Dagger (+1 Racial Affinity)
Compact Blade (+10 to your rolls to smuggle a concealed weapon)
Hiacian Signet Ring (Hidden Effects)
Well Made Oud (+4 to Perform rolls, should you know how to play)
Centurion Armor (+4 to your rolls to avoid damage, hidden effects)
Courier's Bag (Comfortably Carry up to 50 lbs, hidden effects)
Belt pouches (Carry an additional 15 lbs of small items)
Vatis Robes (Hidden Effects)
Silk Under Robes
Cotton Pants
Hide Boots
Misc. Gear (Stored in Courier's Bag)
Rope
Lantern
Lantern Oil
Ornate Lockbox (Unlocked)
Tool Kit
-Crowbar
-Hammer
-Lockpicks

>>30464323
1

>>30464348
>>30464358
>>30464365
But we have no training with it and it has no bonuses to our fighting.
I thought it was a agger.

>>30464348
You should rename the Compact Blade to Compact Sword in the pastebin to avoid confusion.

>>30464386
Just did so. Sorry to anyone who's confused that's my bad.

>>30464385
Hmm, you're right. It's impossible to learn how to use a sword, so why bother, right?

So who else is ready to get enchanted armour.(not the body section we already have that covered, but everything else.)

Voting closed.

>>30464323
2

>>30464416
We are good with a spear. Let's be real here, no one is actually going to pull that thin out in the middle of a fight, especially if we have to ditch our uber cool custom spear to do it.

>>30464385
>let's not learn to use the super stealthy mastercraft sword ever it's not like we want to be prepared if we go somewhere where they don't allow weapons or anything

Really?

>>30464429
>>30464427
anybody have 4chanX to check the second count on these?
And the first 2 vote was not until 1648

>>30464375
>>30464343
>>30464342
>>30464338
>>30464332
>1

>>30464341
>>30464344
>>30464345
>>30464355
>2

1 just barely wins. Writing.

>>30464474
not counting
>>30464429
?

>>30464465

>>30464341 and >>30464429 are 4 minutes 29 seconds apart

>>30464465
he was clearly late.
>>30464438
we got it because we know that a spear isn't good fort everything and having a hidden weapon for emergency situations and surprise attacks is always handy.

>>30464461
Who ever said it was master craft? it give us no bonuses for anything besides being hidden. doesn't sound to good to me.

>>30464502
So it should count.

>>30464514
>The Compact Sword is an ancient Elaudian short sword that extends and retracts from the carved ivory grip

>>30464514
Can you please go read the previous threads before saying stuff? Thanks.

>>30464503
We got it because we got a good roll. And you shouldn't rely on your hidden weapon for normal combat.

>>30464542
Doesn't say anything about fighting quality.

>>30464543
I was here for all of them. It says it looks good but it says nothing about it giving us any combat bonuses.

>>30464539
Why would a vote that came in after the voting was closed count?

>>30464572
It's not a stubby dagger unsuitable for dueling, it's a sword. Yes, we can rely on it for normal combat.

>>30464572
>We got it because we got a good roll.
Wrong
>It's not really a "higher is better" kind of roll. I'm just checking things off a table.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/30305969/#p30313517

And why damage avoidance?

we already have +4 to damage avoidance and great healing.

>>30464635
which means we got a good roll in getting that. it wasn't higher is better but we did get lucky.

>>30464627
I'm saying it is sub-par compared to our spear.

>>30464664
its a weapon that has been shown to be extremely well made, and be on par as normal swords.
> Whatever metal the blade is made of is unlike anything you've ever seen before, it's the thinnest blade you've ever seen, but seems just as sturdy as the iron blade of the scimitar on your hip.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/30305969/#p30313700

>>30464627
Because it was not 5 minutes after a 2 vote. an thus isn't samfagging

>>30464664
so your saying its bad, but also say its a good weapon because of good rolls.
>>30464696
He already closed the voting.

>>30464692
>on par with normal swords
So sub-par compared to our spear (and most gear we will ever use), gotcha.

>>30464696
it has been 5 minutes after the QMs post though.

>>30464715
It is good at being hidden, not at fighting.

>>30464724
I bet if the executioner king asked us to surrender our weapons and tried to have us killed in the middle of the night we'd suck a dick to have a blade like that.

>>30464724
Yes, of course it isn't as good as our spear. If we shortened it for the sake of versatility, our spear would overall be weaker. There are trade-offs, guy. Stop being so sour the vote didn't go your way.

>>30464759
Said when?