>>30442896
Yay, more OverHuman. Let's try and not die.

Also, that's thread 7, the one that wasn't archived properly, not the latest one.

>>30443026
Ah, I'll fix that copy.

If we unlock another type of elemental control, say Air, would Materia Firma work on it or would we have to do something first?

If we would have to do something, what would it be? Upgrading MF a couple levels? Buying another version for each element? I really hope it's not the latter.

Cause I thought that making armor out of air would be easier than using water. Air is everywhere an all that.
And maybe we could put an oath on it without people who really like Ice and Water freaking out.

>>30443109
>And maybe we could put an oath on it without people who really like Ice and Water freaking out.
Good luck. Those people really don't seem happy with anything. Unless of course we use water/ice only and ignore everything else.

>>30443109
Upgrading Materia Firma to Apprentice rank will increase its defensive power.

After that, Adept will unlock use on any kinesis that you've unlocked.
Defense upgrades every level.

Use of such an enchantment will also be possible on the air itself, though it will cost more on lower ranked elements.
Additionally, the properties it modifies while pertaining to density,hardness and weight will NOT change chemical properties.
>MT'd air will still burn.

>>30443109
I like Water and Ice, and I'm pretty much on board with Oathing a lot of abilities.

Though I would prefer that for the time being we work on enhancing some of what we have instead of picking up more abilities, use Oaths and get Adept in 1-2 skills, especially Ice since it helps keep us from getting shot, before we pick up anything new.

Is there anyway to increase our... I guess mana? I'm not sure what else to call it. We seem to drain really quickly and I'm wondering if there's anyway to make it wear us down slower.

>>30443300
Well yes, yes there is.

It's called leveling up the abilities, taking Oaths for them, and incorporating Incantations into our magic usage.

>>30443334
Then let's do that.

>>30443145
I hope that we can find something most of us can be happy with.

If we're going to go the route of "lots of powers, but they all have a lower level than they could if we had focused narrower", then it makes sense to use oaths to dedicate a couple abilities to the big archetypes of use.

Like, purely hypothetically,
>Ice or Air or Light or Earth to defense (Armor / walls / shields to stop bullets and whatnot)
>Fire or Light or whatever to offense (Explosions or burning or lasers only, no illusions or rebirth or whatever)
>Light to illusions only (no using it to cause physical harm or manipulate its properties to block attacks)
>Florakinesis constrained to nonlethal only, making it good for creating sleep / paralysis inducing chemicals, biological tracking devices, environment manipulation and restraints, etc

I dunno. It just seems the way that things would need to work out if we keep unlocking new spells.

>>30443257
When you say lower ranked, do you mean on the periodic table or ranked on some magic classic elements scale?

>>30443334
>>30443365
That doesn't really increase our mana, it just reduces the cost of the spells we do it for. Same result, that being more spell use possible.

I think the equivalent of a mana pool increase just happens naturally as we practice more and more.

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Found a picture for one of the Shade Man's summons.

I really like the idea of a character with a summoning oath to only use shades of people he kills. Not for Asher, but for some creepy motherfucker npc.

The sun is high in the sky casting down the sparser ribbons of color from the aurora, a cloud of sand and dust in the distance from the positions of the gunmen, or whoever else is out there. No more shots ring out after that first volley as you maintain your wall of water, solid and still like a concrete wall, yet clear as glass.
Helia and Aerin back up, their bodies bearing the illumination of their powers. Sand covering Helia up and over her body like a second skin.
“Hot was right, how the hell did we get followed?!” Aerin yells out as she wipes away the blood at the gash across her cheek that the bullet glanced off of.

Eshe flips up on one hand, defying gravity for a single moment as she yells out,”Defend yourselves!”
Her legs glow as she bounds off of the air itself, driving herself forward into the dust like a straight arrow.

You're unaware of Hunter's location as Helia and Aerin back up beside you, guarding while your water wall is maintained.

Your ravens see nothing as they have the past few days, though they seem to be bickering somewhat at this point.
Fara's voice whispers into your mind,[I'll need the water if you want me to appear... I don't see them from this side.]

(Why can't you see them? They just shot at us!) You scream within your mind as you maintain the solid water with a hard flexing of your hand, a dull warmth increasing through your fingers.
[I don't know Asher, and you know that I'd kill them for you if I could. I just can't see them!]

>The enemies are extremely stealthy...
>[] Figure something out for Fara.
>[] Sit back and let Eshe take care of your foe.
>[] Randomly fire back Ice shards with Fara's help.
>[] Tell Aerin and Helia to engage.
>[] (Other)

>>30443538
>>[] Figure something out for Fara.

>>30443399
>When you say lower ranked, do you mean on the periodic table or ranked on some magic classic elements scale?
Lower ranked spell categories.
Atomic size would also matter a bit too I suppose.

>>30443436
Pretty much.

>>30443538
We have Aquatic Perception right? And we're in a fucking desert.

The people after us are sure to have water on them, they should stick out like a sore thumb to our water sense in such a dry place. That should give us their location.

Also, random question about Aquatic Perception, if we increase it independently of our Water control will it branch into other stuff like divination and scrying?

>>30443601
It's naturally raised with Hydrokinesis and yes.

>>30443601

Also, that's good thinking. What do you intend to do with that?
(The enemy's gunfire came from multiple directions.)

>>30443538
I want to use the Aqua sense thing, but is that even something we can do in active use? Seemed like a passive most of the time, so if we're not already sensing them then I doubt we're going to.

But if we aren't already, try to feel for any masses of water in the distance.

>>30443586
>Lower ranked spell categories.
>Atomic size would also matter a bit too I suppose.
Gotchya. So Novice Air would be harder to harden than Apprentice Water.

>>30443631
You should make it more clear in the pastebin that it's tied to Hydrokinesis and upgrading it independently isn't really a thing.

>>30443399
Remember, Oaths don't have to be restrictions on the usage of the ability in question, we can also apply Oaths like Selfishness, to not waste kindness on those who do not deserve it and give nothing back.

>>30443631
Well, I personally say we should stick an Oath on it now then, scrying and other information stuff is absurdly useful, it lets us know what we're getting into beforehand so we can prepare better instead of getting caught off-guard, getting caught off guard can kill us.

We probably won't ever get it to Divine, it's a supportive skill, and we could use the power boost.

I'd suggest getting Selfishness on it, unless someone has another idea for an Oath.

>>30443669
Prioritize finding just one of them for the time being, we want a target to send Fara after. Also, if we get the locations of the enemies we know where to place walls and the like.

Also, can make the water wall we have up show an image of us, their visibility should be poor with the sand, so they actually might believe they got us.

And we should probably get prone, it's not like we can see the enemy ourself, if we get on the ground we're less of a target for rifles to hit.

>>30443703
I think he said we can raise it independently for things.

>>30443538
We could have Helia clear some sand for a hole to hunker down in. Make sure to keep a shield up around and over us. After that we could spam ravens to try to find them.

Hindsight: I really wish we'd put a raven on Hunter so we could see them. He's probably already found one of them and we could summon Fara on top of them if we'd done it.

>>30443813
>I'd suggest getting Selfishness on it, unless someone has another idea for an Oath.
Nobody else really likes this one, but I really like the idea of an Oath of Blindness. It just seems fitting it give up your normal sight to achieve magical sight. If we ever really did need pure visual info, we could whip up a floating eyeball type summon.

>I think he said we can raise it independently for things.
I don't remember him ever explicitly saying one way or the other, but his words did seem to imply that it's not something that raises separately.

But it levels up whenever we level Hydrokinesis anyway, so it will hit Divine if we level Hydro to Divine.

>>30443813
I think that the Oath of Selfishness was shot down a while ago for being too vague / the ability to twist any action into being seen in a selfish light.

Every single one of your quests ends up like this really quickly.

>In a situation
>It looks like we have the tools to solve it
>Still feels like I'm trying to cobble together a working microwave from a box of legos and Popsicle sticks.

>>30444025
So 2op? Good, let's do it.

>>30444080
Shot down by the QM as something that we're not allowed to take. We'd have to put some actual definitions behind "selfishness" to take it. And that would make it not OP.

>>30443813
Adding to my post.

Also, I thought we could summon our Summons without a medium, it helps with the drain, but Fara said she needs the water if we want her to appear.

Can we use the enemies' water as the Medium for a summon. Because that would be a funny way to drop Fara on them.

And I sorta wish we had Oath of the Sculptor so we could make Ice walls for cheaper and then not have to continue to Materia Firma it.

>>30444025
Dranule brought it up in the first place, and hasn't shot it down.

>>30444108
It wasn't shot down, I literally just checked.

>>30444159
>And I sorta wish we had Oath of the Sculptor so we could make Ice walls for cheaper and then not have to continue to Materia Firma it.

I would also like it.

Any here who oppose it?


>>30444159
>Can we use the enemies' water as the Medium for a summon. Because that would be a funny way to drop Fara on them.
Fuckin brilliant. If this works, I love you anon.

>>30444159
>>30444208
I don't want to be locked into only using Ice. No oaths.

>>30444238
Are you stupid, m8?

>>30444275
That's what Oaths do, they lock us into only using one spell. I don't want that.

Fighting blind and already lacking an eye isn't something that you really find suitable as the thought occurs to, staring through your own conjured wall- the enemy must have water with them. You close your eye as you feel your hasty barrier quiver from diverted focus. Where is it?

Kneeling down to lessen your profile, you feel faint distant signatures, but it's too many, and too blurry. The damn cacti hinder your perception.
Giving up on that point, you surround the three of you with your barrier and ice it over, something seeming to assist.
“Cold, right?” Helia's waving her sand covered hand, freezing over a large portion of the barrier as you nod, surprised in her ability to do this.

You see the sandstorm move, and Eshe leap out, throwing her head around to regain her coordination as she kicks off of the air again, sliding beside the three of you as a volley of bullets rings out, glancing over her flesh as it flashes a murky green.

As you finish casting illusions into the ice with everyone else hunkered down Eshe snarls, her dreads falling over her shoulders in a mess,”We are surrounded, there are more than who shot.”

“How many?” You call out through your barrier.
“At least five, at most six.”

>>30444238
What the fuck are you talking about?

Oath of the Sculptor does not prevent us from doing stuff with Water, Materia Firma, Illusion, or any of our other abilities. If we had Fire/Air/Earth it would not prevent us from doing a single god damn thing with them.

All it would do is keep us from making our Ice stuff pointy. We don't kill with Ice, we just hinder with it, and keep us from dying with it, and then stab them with solid water.

>>30444238
>>30444289
That's not what oaths do

A shot explodes in the distance, as you regard the direction. Not directed at your wall.
You grin through your teeth at that,"I'm willing to bet Four or Five now. Hunter's still out there. Why can't we find them?"

Eshe's grimace turns into a smile as her features illuminate, her fish-like form returning with a set of hardened crocodilian scales, and a glass-like cover for her eyes,”How else? Magic. They do not want to be seen, so they are like ghosts.”

Another volley tears through the dust-clouds, repelled by Eshe's magical hide as her body reflexively trembles.
She takes a deep breath.
“They intend to wear us down before coming in for the kill. I will protect you all.”

Eshe rushes back into the low visibility, before you have a chance to say anything, her body humming with electricity.

Aerin glance at you from her own low position,"I don't like this, sitting ducks like this, we should've picked a better spot."
Helia remains calm under the fire,"Asher, I'll keep the ice up, don't worry about it."

>What's the plan, Asher?

>Burn: Moderate

>>30444317
>>30444320
No it makes it so we have to use ice and it stops us from getting to high levels in it so it's bad to get. I don't want to limit Asher like that.

>>30444417
It doesn't lock you into ice. It doesn't even stop you from maxing it out.

>>30444410
>try and use illusion to throw off attackers

>>30444417
We're not going to be divine in every single element Anon. It's just not happening. We all have to make sacrifices.

>>30444417
You add a limit or a condition to fulfill for it to increase its power and lower burn.

>>30444410
What if we made an illusion or really wimpy thoughtform of Eshe, have her get fake killed.

They'll think we just lost our strongest party member and move it to attack, and then we fuck em up with Fara and Eshe and Aerin can probably do something while Hunter attacks from the back.

>>30444481
>>30444451
Oh. Well then I don't think I'd mind getting one.

Are there any that aren't too bad?

>>30444467
Ok, we're sacrificing something other than ice then. Let's oath summoning.

>>30444565
Now you're just being stupid

>>30444587
Stupid because I don't want the same things you want? Fuck off, retard.

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>>30444624
So mad

>>30444650
Your next line will be, "I was just pretending to be retarded!"

>>30444464
>>30444526
I'll wait another 5-7 minutes before I start writing(Though I'm willing to rewrite/add some parts for a late plan/vote.)

Only plans offered seem to be to use illusion to throw off the attackers or summon Eshe to throw them off.

>>30444707
No, I believe that's your line.

>>30444467
>>30444565
>>30444587
>>30444624
>>30444650
And this mentality right here is a good example of why the oaths and Divine rank mechanics are bad for questing. They require the players to all agree on a long term route lock type scenario early on, which they won't ever, resulting in a situation not too dissimilar to hardcore waifu wars. Except with spells instead of girls.

This would work for single player campaigns, but it doesn't work for this.

Making taking a spell to Divine remove or lessen the oaths associated with it would be a solution. Or adding a mechanic where really going overdrive on an oath can "pay it off" in a sense if you want it removed. Like if you took an Oath of Truth, then you have to go on a side quest to "spread the truth and vanquish lies" or something. Or Oath of the Sculptor requires some grand construction made of ice, maybe a palace to some god or something. Hell, you could make the deities offer sidequests to remove oaths later on.

>>30444726
>>30444707
>>30444650
>>30444624
>>30444587
Calm down Jojos. You're being shot at.

>>30444410
So we can't locate them with our bird, and Aquatic Perception didn't get anything.

So let's draw them in. We have convenient Ice walls, and we can do illusions. Make it look like the Ice Wall is partially transparent, like the shots we've been taken have done enough damage that we needed to thin them, and put an illusion of ourself and the other people around us on it. Make sure we're standing up in the illusion and looking around, or something like that.

When the next volley of fire has gone off make the wall look like there's a hole in it when there's not, and that we were shot in the chest or something and fell over. If they keep on firing have them also thing that they got Helia, and Aerin after that after a number of "wounds" from their rifles.

This'll let them feel they're making progress, draw them in, make them targets for Hunter, and give us something to work with.

>>30444565
No. Ice is pretty much perfect for us for a skill to take to Master, considering the paths we've been taking we'll want Summoning at Divine, eventually.

>>30444726
Really? The "I know you are but what am I" line? Kid, you better cool down before you get underage banned here.

>>30444565
Could you tell me which skills you want to take to divine rank? Just curious. Assume we'll be able to do 2 or 3 max.

>>30444745
You make sense here. I was thinking about just having Asher never consider an oath to be a good idea or make one a story point.

>>30444792
Ice, Illusion, Water

>>30444799
Another thing you could do is in addition to the rank boost, play up the burn reduction more for Oaths.

That way an oath at Divine Rank isn't a complete waste. You still get a slight burn reduction.

I'd be happy with that.

Hey. Summon up some illusions so we can continue on with this great quest.

>>30444792
Ice, Space, Fire

>>30444758
The making the wall looked fucked up is a good idea.

Would be pretty easy probably since we use the ice to project the illusions.

>>30444792
Summoning
Space
Light

>>30444799
Please, please, please don't do the first one.

It'll get us killed, it will cripple our power compared to our peers. Don't punish us like that because some people can't come to a simple decision, others didn't understand Oaths whatsoever when objecting to it, and the votes against Oaths lat time seemed suspiciously samefaggy.

>>30444815
Ice and Illusion, while I like them, seem better suited towards supporting our other skills than being Divine themselves. Ice for defensive purposes and constructing things, Illusion for misdirection and so on.

>>30444792
Summoning and Water are the two big ones. Alchemy or Materia Firma might be interesting if we get a third.

>>30444815
>>30444890
>>30444912
Ok. Yeah, I can see that we're never going to reach consensus on Oaths.

Mine were Summoning, Water, Alchemy

>>30444799
If you ever want us to take an oath without major asshurt and shistorming, then the system needs tweeking.

>>30444931
>Summoning and Water are the two big ones. Alchemy or Materia Firma might be interesting if we get a third.
Muh nigga

>>30444792
Space
Gravity
Light (Or summoning)

Well nobody has said they want Divine Florakinesis or Aerokinesis.

Oath of the Gardener and Oath of Armour, anybody?

>>30444931
Or we could use ice and illusion as our main skills, and have summoning as a support for them. That's why I don't want oath of the sculptor, it would hurt our offense.

>>30444745
You forgot another reason why this system is bad.

It encourages hostile sabotage-style votes. You're not voting for the thing you think is cool that will make the story good or interesting. You're voting for the thing that will fuck over your rivals and have your choice win by default.

Nobody wins, everybody mad.

>>30445050
Ice is best as a defensive skill, not an offensive one.

The ideal of "Stillness" is best for keeping us from harm, not trying to harm people with it.

Our offense comes from other things, by its very nature Ice is far from our best offensive choice.

Illusion is more of a support skill to let us get our attacks through and mislead them to set them up, but it's best used to support our other stuff.

>>30445178
Good point. Nobody is looking at Oaths as a short term power boost, they're looking at them as tools to remove rival spell-waifus from the long game.

Nobody here even seems to care about the power boost from Oaths, only that it can facilitate their preferred choices through early route-lock.

>>30445227
Ice is a great offensive skill, make any weapon out of ice, freeze dudes alive, encase people in ice. Possibilities are endless. It's much more interesting than summoning, and safer.

>>30445267
I know that someone is just going to do the ">implying everyone that disagrees with you is newfag scum" thing, but this looks like AoPH MUH GRAFT SURGERY 2.0, Asher boogaloo

>>30445312
Making weapons out of ice is really lame, and if you wanted to do it, it is better done with earth or metal. Or just cut people with air. The only thing I would miss is freezing people directly.

>>30445312
Not even the guy you were talking to, but most of what you just said would all be improved by the Oath of the Sculptor.

The only thing it would stop us from doing is making weapons, and Asher is an Evoker Nerve. he shouldn't be making weapons out of ice to hit stuff with anyway.

If you really wanna kill shit with Ice, launch a spike at them from a mile away.

I think summoning is better to use to kill people long range, though. Use scouts to find them and summon up something right on top of them.

>>30445397
It's a hell of a lot cooler than summoning.

>>30445412
Weapons include ice spike missiles
any weapon means any weapon anon
not just melee range ones
see why I want ice?

You know what Dran. I think it's better if you just axe Oaths completely. /tg/ has shown that they just cannot come to an agreement without fucking someone else over for liking a different thing from them.

If you leave it like this, the rest of your threads are just going to be bickering morons like the last 3 threads have been.

>>30445468
Not really. Summoning has shown itself to be better for killing shit at equivalent rank while Ice has consistently been used for defensive purposes over the course of the quest.

To make it a simile, it feels like you want to take our gun and use that to block with and try to beat people to death with our shield.

With Helia taking care of the ice, you take a brief break from maintaining it before you solidify it further.”Everyone, stay down.”You say as you channel your power into the water.
>Cantrip!: Mirage Ice Mirror

You recall the visage of your allies as you close your eye, and then cast their forms standing up within the ice. After the next hail that batters the ice, you make yourself fall, and Aerin stagger.

You hear another shot explode in the distance, and illumination from forms slipping through the sand and arcs as Eshe discharges electricity between the reflexive gunfire.

You see a part of the sandstorm begin to die down, leaving a hole in the wall of sweeping sand.
It dawns on you that the sand never encroached upon your bunker as you let another illusion fall from another sweep of bullets.
Helia looks to you as her veins begin to take on a creeping blue glow,”Asher, what are you doing?!
“I'm making them think we're going down, I just hope it works.” You say as you wipe a bead of sweat from your brow. Between the real heat outside and the feeling of heat in your nerves, it's a calm relief that there's ice not far, even if it's the only thing keeping you from becoming swiss cheese.

Just as you think of that, a portion of the ice distorts as a claw rakes through- no from it- as though trying to break free.

[I will kill them.]
Fara comes into being, lacking her apron or robes from before, taking on a more utilitarian form. A single eye gleaming through a mask of ice with a crack running through the surface, blade-like skates to accompany her claws.
“I did not tell you to do anything!”

>>30445529
Just because we've been using it to defend only doesn't mean it cannot also be used to attack. Ice can be anything, both the gun and the shield.

>>30445571
Aaaaaand there it is.

The nail in the coffin for summoning. The first time we give a summon the smallest bit of leash, they choke us with it.

GG no re hopping back on the summoning-a-shit train.

>>30445646
>a character is eager in trying to kill our enemies for us
>choke us with it
you never got off the train.

Heeding you not, Fara drives into the sand storm, letting a hail of bullets pass through her body unhindered as she proceeds at a break-neck speed. Leaping into the air at the last moment and performing a spinning flip with the edge of one of her blades out, contact with the sands driving a blade of air to create another part, revealing a soldier garbed in camo, covered from head to toe in spite of the heat.
At facing your wild monster of ice, the soldier drops the sight of his gun while extending a hand and clasping the air, the storm swiftly concealing him once more.
(How?!)
[Lucky guess.] Fara chuckles within your mind as she unleashes a scream in the same direction, rippling the sand.

Another shot explodes through the desert at a distance right after, the bullet redirected from the storm into the sky as Fara surges forward again, taking a different maneuver this time, spinning upon an icy claw and letting her skates whip up a freezing wind to blow back at the storm once more.
(Why didn't you tell me that you could do that?!)
[Didn't know.]

Aerin leaps over the ice,”I'm going in too.” charging forward after Fara, doubling and then triplig in speed as her verdant power grips her, illuminating her every joint.

Helia glances at you, and takes a deep breath as the blue in her fingers recedes,”Can I borrow this?” She points to the frozen sheet before her, stress from the fight written all over her face.

>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] "No, need it for something.

Then...
>[] Create pockets of steam in the ice and blow up the remainder of the wall.
>[] Summon something else through the ice...(second vote)
>[] Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

>Burn: Moderate

>>30445718
>Our illusion ruse was working
>Fara goes full retard and charges in

>>30445738
>[] "No, need it for something.
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.
Come this far. Might as well go all the way

>>30445618
It is a far better shield than it is a gun.

Ice will at higher levels encompass Stillness, slowing things down, heat, speed, maybe time.

These things are best used as a defensive measure, especially since we can't directly effect other people with it unless we touch them, and we should never be that close to an enemy in a fight. It's a small sacrifice, and an Oath pretty much doubles the effect of all Limit Points you put into it, up until Master. That means more points for other stuff, like getting a completely different skill to Master as well that is completely geared towards murdering shit. With two oaths we can literally get two skills, like Ice and Fire to Master for the same price as just getting Ice to Master.

You want longterm gain, then take Oaths, use all those Limit points to diversify like a motherfucker.

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Create pockets of steam in the ice and blow up the remainder of the wall.
>Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.

>>30445774
hahaha no, she's rebellious with just this much and you want to give her more? no no no
absolutely not

>>30445738
>[x] "No, need it for something.
>[x] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

>>30445751
The illusion worked, it got us to the point where one of us could locate the enemy. It just happened to be Fara.

>>30445738
>>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.
Fara is already there. Let her finish it and we'll give her a long lesson on the importance of listening to your summoner.

>the dawning realization that it doesn't matter what oaths we take because we'll get killed off within a dozen threads anyway before we ever even get anything to Adept rank

>>30445807
I'd rather focus level ice and illusion, and oath summoning to support them. Fara literally just showed us what I've been saying all along, summoning is unreliable. Ice won't disobey us. If we do it this way we'll have a stronger defense than offence, and I'm comfortable with that. Considering the fragility of nerves, that's probably an ideal skill setup.

>Your contract with her is simple: "Do what I say, so that you can help me." [Restriction]: You may not ask her to act against you.
I think we just found her loophole. She can act against us when she views our commands as self-destructive.

This is some I, Robot shit right here.

>>30445738
>>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Create pockets of steam in the ice and blow up the remainder of the wall.

>>30445831
>>30445928
I feel stupid. Why are you wanting to splodey the wall?

>>30445738
>Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.
>[] "No, need it for something.

>>30445738
>>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

>>30445955
lets our other allies out now that the enemy is located

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

>>30445738
>>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.

And here come the samefags on both sides.

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."

>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

It doesn't matter if you like how she acted right now or not. We're on the offensive now, which means we want her out and killing fuckers.

She's winning, she's already taken out one. Let her do her job.

>>30445738
>[] "Yeah, sure."
>[] Give Fara more power, see if she can blow away more of that sand.

Aright, stop. I'm writing.

>>30445738
>Ask Fara to return, she needs to obey.
>"Yeah, sure."

I'm sorry Dran. I really really am. Please don't drop the quest because of this.

>>30446088
He was planning to reveal that he was ygg all along anyway. He knew what rampant faggotry his way came in the future.

>>30446088
I'm... not mad?

You guys know I'm cool right?

I want to get mind control and take that to divine. Way better than anything else.

>>30445901
Or, we Oath Ice, get it to Master which while not quite Divine, is still insanely powerful, and have all of those amazing defensive things from Ice.

If Master leveled Ice, the element of Stillness and Death, can't keep something from killing us, then we have sincerely fucked up somewhere along the line.

Sure we miss out on some of the offensive stuff, but that's not what we want most from Ice. And by Oathing it we're pretty much doubling our Limit Point investment up until Master.

I'm not even really worrying about Divine that much, that's very far off, we need this defense now. Ice is still going to be important even with an Oath, I love Ice, I want it as our first skill to Adept.

But Summoning has more powerful and diverse options at Divine that Ice will, it's got some caveats, but overall it offers us a lot of power. Being able to pretty much store up magic in Summons means we can accomplish a lot more in a fight without catching our brain on fire.

You look to Fara, cursing under your breath and through your link,”No, Yes... Just give me a second!”

“Fuck! Fara, I'm backing you up!” You shout from a knee,”Blow it all away!”
You extend a hand and send out a surge of magic, and feed it into Fara going into overdrive as you feel her explode with bliss.
“Asher, oh yes Asher, I'll kill them all for you! Just keep making me feel this way!” She screams out into the real world as her body gleams with her surreal glow, becoming a touch more feminine and far more wicked as her ice sharpens.
Helia gives you a worried look from the side, yet you maintain your concentration on feeding your summon even as your nerves explode with pain and your vision fuzzes.

Fara spins upon one skate now, like a ballerina performing a pirouette, freezing what sparse moisture happens to be in the air and shedding a surreal mist that blankets outward from her frozen form.
There's a lull in the gunfire, and your instincts tell you to yell,”GET DOWN!” As you drop into the dust, grabbing Helia by the shoulder.

Aerin drops just in time for Fara to kick out one of her blades, and sweep the floating dust with a massive blade of winter, touching upon everything in the area and slicing the storm in half.

Looking upon her work you almost catch her smiling,[Never knew I wanted to be a dancer, is this from you?]
(I believe last time I told you to sing,) You lift your head to examine her grim work. The dust slowly dies down with the wind. You see frozen blood, and two men cut in twain while another spazzes upon the ground under Eshe.

Three bodies, but there were supposed to be five. Two got away.

(Still can't see them?)
[I can now- Oh, they vanished. I'll pursue-] She starts off.
(Wait.) You grip your arm in your agonizingly gradual fade from pain. (I can't power you any more. They lost two men.)

You hear another gunshot in the distance and you look with a little smile,” I'll count that as one, then.”

>[] Pursue.
>[] Don't pursue.

The man under Eshe seems to be alive...

>[] Approach the two.
>[] Wait where you are, fuck moving right now.

>Burn: Severe

>>30446341
Anon, I don't think there's much point in trying to convince him. He just really loves Ice, actions within the quest be damned.

>>30446448
>>[] Don't pursue.
>[] Wait where you are, fuck moving right now.
2sleepy

>Helia is now at her 4th grade... Her intelligence and power increases.

>>30446448
>Approach the two.
>Don't pursue

>>30446478
>>Fara* is now at her 4th grade... Her intelligence and power increases.
Fucked that one.

>>30446341
You literally just read the post about how Fara isn't controllable, right? I don't see how you still want Summoning to be our main focus.

>>30446464
Funny, that's the same way I see everyone who wants summoning, especially after the recent posts.

>>30446448
>[] Pursue.

Tell her to be careful and focus on working with Hunter.

She can conserve power that way, and she should be alright without a recharge for some amount of time.

>[] Approach the two.

We have questions, he has answers.

>>30446478
She was a Thoughtform all along.

>>30446464
I like Ice too.

>>30446512
Do you care about procedure or results? I care about results, and what happened when she took her own initiative was 3 dead enemies when there had been 5.

>>30446448
>[] Pursue.
>[] Wait where you are, fuck moving right now.

>>30446529
Just because it happened to work out now doesn't mean it won't get us killed in the future. If a soldier acted against orders like that it wouldn't matter if he won a battle single-handedly, he'd be out of the army.

>>30446529
>>[] Pursue.
>
>Tell her to be careful and focus on working with Hunter.
>
>She can conserve power that way, and she should be alright without a recharge for some amount of time.
This

>>30446326
If we try to do mind control it should be in an indirect manner in which you don't need to overcome someone's magic resistance. Conditioning through subliminal messaging, chemically altering mental state... cordyceps.
I think targeting the subconscious though would be best, since bones and veins would likely be resistant to things like chemicals and other physically invasive measures.

>>30446448
Do we have any kind of panic button regarding summons? Can we halt one of our own in an emergency? What is our level of direct control at the different levels (regarding the summoning skill and the level of the summon itself), and is this different between mythos/thoughtform/shades.

>>30446599
>If we try to do mind control it should be in an indirect manner in which you don't need to overcome someone's magic resistance. Conditioning through subliminal messaging, chemically altering mental state... cordyceps.
>I think targeting the subconscious though would be best, since bones and veins would likely be resistant to things like chemicals and other physically invasive measures.
Violet had it in the first Overhuman. Didn't seem to work against magic resistance. Just bones could try to eat the spell faster than she could power it was the major problem, but she just overpowered them. Took down a whole facility of Overs with it.

She was Expert rank.

>>30446599
>Do we have any kind of panic button regarding summons
You can exert your will to forcibly dispell them. The process will most likely scorn the summon if it is a mythos. Low ranking thoughtforms will most likely be dismantled.
Otherwise, there could be an arrangement in the contract that forces them to obey you should that occur either in the form of something like Fate-stay command seals or an agreement that dispells them.

Fara's contract is a very simple one.

>>30446448
>[] Pursue.
>[] Approach the two.

>>30446448
>[] Pursue.
I don't care if we approach or not

>>30446566
We also didn't know that she had something that could reveal the enemy. It's not too surprising, but she managed it when we hadn't been.

We're not a military group, we're a ragtag group of misfit terrorists with odd specialties and we all need to be able to act on our own initiative if it's needed.

(Work with Hunter in pursuit, and don't follow in that form, use vapors if necessary and conserve power. Report to me by nightfall or when you kill them.) You instruct Fara and her form dissolves as told.
[Yes Asher, I'll kill them for you. Just let me know if you need anything else.] There's almost a giggle in her voice and an affection as you feel the distance increase. Could this have been a mistake?

You think on that with your mind dulled by the exertion of power, and Aerin tromping up to one of the bodies, checking out the damage.

You hear a series of gunfire from her direction and a sudden explosion in a green flash as she falls, to her knees, clutching her stomach as it grows red through her shirt.
“Shit,” You try to get up but your fatigue keeps you down,”Get her Helia.”

The woman at your side rushes out, with sand quivering over her body once more to check up on Aerin. From where you are, you can see the dashed remains of gray matter and a small crater from where Aerin's fist made contact. Hell, at least she finished them off- as Helia comes over she stops, keeling over to wretch out a nice syrup of green from the cacti you've all been eating.

At least they're dead.

Sitting in the sand, you play with it idly, too tired and out of fucks to give to try doing anything else right now. After a bit Eshe comes over, dragging a soldier that still seems to be breathing, only, just barely.
“Nice man you got there, he your husband now?” You laugh tiredly as you look to her with your one eye.
“She, and not funny,” She throws the man to the ground amidst the slowly melting ice you've got around yourself. “I'd like to learn from this one. We'll need to cut off her arms and legs.”

>>30447073
Aw sweet. Are we going to force him to awaken?

>>30447105
Learn from, not teach to.

Sounds like Eshe caught a Nerve with an interesting power, and is going to eat his magic.

>>30447073
Well, once we recover a bit we can freeze the stumps so she doesn't bleed out.

“How you expect us to do that? Won't she die? Wait, she there's women in combat now?”
“Not if it's burnt shut, and why wouldn't there be?”
“Not a fireman Esh... And I don't know.” You go no further an that one...
She looks over to Aerin as Helia helps her up, the larger woman's stomach seeming to have effectively healed, though her movements are still slower than before.

“Upper half gunned me, got what he deserved.” Aerin croaks,” Bullets still inside, don't feel good.” She swallows.

Helia looks down at the dirt,”Uh, so what're we doing with that guy?”
“Girl/Woman” You and Eshe say.


By evening, Eshe's kept the soldier in an effective coma while Helia went ahead and buried the others. At the very least so that it's not a bunch of dead folks in the desert.

With Fara's help, you've turned the chick into a quadraplegic and Eshe's burned the wounds shut with a heated piece of metal from her electricity.
You notice something strange about her though... Her hair is platinum blonde, almost white despite the fat that she looks no older than a teen. What the hell?

Looting her revealed that she was wearing a fried radio and a bunch of other crazy gadgets. You can't much identify them, but you do find what looks like a GPS of some sort.

You'll need to weigh the convenience vs the dangers of keeping this.

Fara hasn't reported back, so the one that got away, is still at large... Brilliant.

Eshe seems to be keen on keeping it, the more the better. Something about adversity driving us to become stronger.
Helia and Aerin seem to be of the opinion that you'd all be better off without a global positioning system tracking your location.

>Your opinion?
>[] Keep it.
>[] Waste it.

>Any questions of your own for the chick?

>>30447207
>>[] Waste it.
We'll get chances to become stronger but we don't need the entire military on our butt right now.

>>30447207
>With Fara's help, you've turned the chick into a quadraplegic
>Fara hasn't reported back, so the one that got away, is still at large... Brilliant.
¿Que?

>>30447207
>waste it

>>30447207
>[] Waste it.

No point in keeping it. Got a job to do and having them able to track us isn't going to do us any good. Let's not make their job any easier.

>>30447207
>[] Waste it.
I'm tempted by the limit points... But I don't much like the idea of getting shot at more just yet.
>Any questions of your own for the chick?
What exactly she was doing that was worth keeping her as a person sausage. Or maybe we can just ask Eshe that.

>>30447073
>>“She, and not funny,”
>Sorry. I just didn't know you swung that way.
Sadly that was followed up by the topic of amputating a prisoner, killing the mood.

>>30447207
>>[] Waste it.
We'll meet plenty of adversity in Vegas, I'm sure. No point in facing it while we're in nearly the worst position possible.

>>30447244
Woop, I fuckied up on that one. Helia helped.
Slipping up here.

>>30447321
>No point in facing it while we're in nearly the worst position possible.
I may not want to keep the thing, but adversity now forces us to overcome it and grow more.

>>30447207
>Her hair is platinum blonde
Huh. So you kept marks of power that aren't just the glowing nerves / veins / bones ? Neato I guess. I wonder why everyone in the city had the glowing.

So, no questions for the recently retired soldier?

And there's some merit to keeping it in that you'll know where you are and where you're going. Right now you're all just kind of trudging north. Who knows where you'll end up?

>>30447345
>I may not want to keep the thing, but adversity now forces us to overcome it and grow more.
That may work in the sense of limit points and shit, but I'm sure Asher would look for the path of least resistance.

>>30447207
>[] Waste it.

We have Water powers in a desert, and Eshe is a fish. Aerin has some bullets in her gut, and Hunter hasn't come back yet. Let's not draw more attention.

Actually, if it's small enough, make a cheap fast summon carry it in a direction we're not going for as long as it can, throw them off our trail.

>>30447379
We can't use it to take a look at where we are, generally orient ourselves towards Vegas better, and THEN trash it?

>>30447379
Ask her if she likes video games
then kill her before she gets to answer.

>>30447379
I want to know exactly what she was doing magic-wise.

>>30447376
uh, sounds like a vein or bone sign, you know, invoking something that is creating a notable trait. The glowing is just when your powering up or overworked.

>>30447379
I wouldn't mind turning it on if it has a map to double check our heading and THEN ditching it, but I wasn't sure if it was just a locator or what.

>>30447379
Can we check our current position with it and orient ourself? We may as well fiddle with it before breaking it.

Also, questions for the girl.

What her name is, who she's working for, why her hair is white, why a young girl like this is chasing down terrorists in the desert, what magic they have, how they found us.

>>30447445
>uh, sounds like a vein or bone sign, you know, invoking something that is creating a notable trait. The glowing is just when your powering up or overworked.
I think there's something more to it. The marks of power were far more diverse in ever single overhuman quest before this and we were never told if this was a retcon or something specific to the in-story situation.

>>30447379
Would like to know how they found us out here.

Also was one of the Overs with her a tracker because I'm guessing that's the one that got away.

Probably a better one than Hunter

Would it be possible to try to get the bullet out of Aerin? I want to try on someone else, who is less liable to die from it, just in case we ever need to remove a bullet from ourself.

>>30447522
Get some seconds to this and you can try.

>>30447612
I don't think people are gonna second it. A shame. I wonder what it might have unlocked if draining cactuses got us the possibility to learn Florakinesis.
Though fucking it up would probably hurt like a motherfucker.

Would anyone be against buying Florakinesis for 1 LIMIT point, slapping some oath on it for a quick power boost, and using that as our boost skill?

If anyone can think of some good plant oaths, I'd love to hear em.

>>30447522
What would we remove it with? Especially since I'm pretty sure that she already closed the wounds, she just has lead in her, so we'd have to reopen it as well.

I would like to heal her, it's a good skill to pick up, but I'm not sure we have a good chance at it.

Maybe if we can overcome the magic resistance we can use Water to have the water/blood in the body force the bullet out, maybe.

>>30447522
I second this, put some water in the wounds and use it to pull it out

>>30447522
>>30447612
>>30447703
Sounds like a way to bruteforce into the metal end of the spectrum. Ask if she's cool with us trying it. Worst case is a bad exit wound, if we can't move it at all she can snack on the magic we used to try. Perhaps temperature-neutrally turning to to a liquid would be easier? Also even riskier though, would want to try that on a random piece of metal from a soldiers kit or something.

>>30447741
Her own blood? We can exsanguinate people, it's just usually a horrible idea because we have to be touching them.

I wonder if Flesh is close enough to water to use Materia Firma to pull the bullet out without actually opening the wound.

>>30447771
>Flesh is close enough to water
No.

>>30447781
Can you guys at least wait for Dran to shoot it down? I admit that this one is a pretty big stretch, but nearly every time you guys "NO" at speculation, it gets confirmed as possible.

>>30447771
Flesh, no. Blood yes, nut you can only move H2O. I've never depicted your mainpulated water as anything but pure and clear iirc.

“Let's look at it, then trash it. So long as we know what direction Vegas is, we'll be good to go. Fair compromise?”
Aerin and Helia agrees, after all, better than wandering around in a desert aimlessly.
After a brief period of booting it up, you find that you're further north than you thought. Close to 190 and 95's just past there which will be a trip to the east to get to Vegas.

Further north would've had you in the road, but instead of hitting a big street you could cross the mountains and make your way through a town called Pahrump that could score everyone some R&R if the military hasn't cut it off from everything.
You toss the thing up and one of your ravens snatch it, bickering with the other one as they fly away with it.

“So, we could head there by orienting east or find a main road and go directly to vegas.”
Eshe seems to think about this deal,”We could go to this place and sow seeds to draw attention away from our travel. Leaving when they bloom.”
Aerin raises an eyebrow to Eshe,”What are you talking about, seeds?”

Eshe smiles with an almost sinister light,”By teaching people and allowing them to make a choice.”
“We have the manpower for that? How are we supposed to offer a choice when there's just the five of us?”Aerin protests.
“Six, if you count Fara.” You add in.
Eshe glares at Aerin, her eyes like daggers while her face is one of empty emotion,”You would forsake the followers, Aerin?” A question is a threat,”It is our duty to enlighten others.” The statement a promise.
Aerin seems to shudder at that, gripped by something in the process. She looks to you and Helia for approval, though Helia seems keen on staying out of it, averting her gaze, looking at you to pass the torch.

>[] Agree with Eshe.
>[] Agree with Aerin.
>[] ”We've got a captive to interrogate.” But this will come up again.

>>30447893
>>[] Agree with Eshe.
HAHAHA TIME TO TORTURE IN THE NAME OF LUCIFER
..oh and The Followers too I guess. Whatever.

>>30447871
>I've never depicted your mainpulated water as anything but pure and clear iirc.
Well that's worrying. We've been drinking that shit and pure water will fuck you up.

>>30447893
>[] Agree with Eshe.
I wonder if this town has a church.

>>30447893
>[] Agree with Eshe.
Time for 3 birds.

>>30447956
>Well that's worrying. We've been drinking that shit and pure water will fuck you up.
This. Water will dissolve your insides if it's pure.

>>30447973
>Time for 3 birds.
lmao 3cat

>>30447992
I don't understand the reference

>>30448003
Well that's odd considering your on /tg/.

>>30447893
>[] Agree with Eshe.

"A church would make a good target, it would have psychological impact, probably make teaching them easier.

I make a good public speaker, I think I can handle that part."

>>30447893
While I want to do it anyway, I would like to stand up for her a little in that Aerin was just saying we don't have nearly the strength the Followers had in San Diego and we (everyone besides Eshe) have never done it before.

>>30448069
Frisco, LA, wherever the fuck it was.

>>30448069
>>30448098
Nah, san diego's right.

>>30448044
Should we start pre-typing up the speech points?

We need some stuff for
>We will teach you the truth and give you knowledge
>We will liberate you from the ignorance that your oppressors would inflict upon you
>Your oppressors are the government, and they want to keep you in the dark and weak.
>Suffering is necessary to gain knowledge, and so shall begin
>Yahweh has stolen the water of Asherah
>Asherah is back
Did I miss anything? If not, I'd appreciate some people helping me with hammering out specific good lines for those points.

Also weighing the pros and cons of using Materia Firma to make the water rush down the Priest's throat like air, but then get solid in his lungs. Or just do it straight for a drowning. I dunno. Materia Firma might though probably not make Asherah not consider it a "true drowning" or some bullshit.

Also gotta consider whether to bring Fara in on this. She would be shocking and definitely help with the inflicting of trauma, but she might just straight up kill people.

I'm liking steam burns for our method of maiming. Hydrokinesis water onto their skin in a pattern, and then flash-steam it to mark them with pattern burns.

>>30448263
Eh. They all sound stupid. Just say something like "You may have forgot Asherah, but she hasn't forgotten you. Remember"

>>30448263
"Hey. Yahweh is a dick. Asherah best girl. Whatever. See ya."

>>30448284
Most of it isn't for Asherah, it's the follower's schpeel to get new recruits. But yeah. We need to make it sound a bit better, I was just trying to hit the main points. Guess we can do that when we get to it.

>>30448263
Don't forget to include stuff about the path of Blood and the path of enlightenment and junk.

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>>30448284
>>30448304
>>30448361
We're really half assing it

>>30448376
I'll try to do better when we actually get on the stage.

>>30448263
I say for killing the Priest we take Oath of the Sculptor before hand, and use it to bind him with ice that turns into a crucifix. Once he's crucified in front of his congregation we make the waters from the baptismal pool rise up and force down his throat. We want him to sputter, cough, gurgle, all that stuff, part of the show.

I say we start with the murder and the Asherah thing, remind them that the Old Gods have returned, that magic has come back.

Then we move into maiming people to awaken them while explaining their choices.

Since it's a church they'll all be piled together anyway, we can deal with the entrances and exits, have our big scary magic people make an example of the first couple who make trouble by having them be the first ones to get "englightened".

>>30448407
I don't think we'll need the oath for the crucifix thing. Still seems like a good idea for the show, though.

>>30448407
All we have to do is kill the priest and the emotional trauma should unlock most peoples powers.

Then we tell them to kill the unchosen.

“Eshe, I think I speak for everyone when I say that we're a bit hesitant to go through with this as we lack the numbers and you're the only one among us that's done it.”
Eshe's gaze fixates on you, the same predatory emptiness that seems to regard you as a traitor.
“But,” You begin the correction here,”I wouldn't mind seeing how it's done now that...” You trail off a bit there, feeling the subtle connection between you, them, and all the other Followers.
“Now that we're part of something greater.”

Eshe smiles at that, returning to her usual self, faith restored,”Ah, right. A first time for everything, right? I'm sorry.” She raises a hand to pardon herself, as Aerin looks down at the dirt.
“Yeah, I'm sorry too. Just this awful gut feeling, you know? Like you've got a belly of lead?” She chuckles dryly at her own terrible joke.

Helia smiles, “We'll get better somehow Aerin, just hold tight, okay?”
The woman nods, leaning against the water tank,”Right, right. I suppose Eshe's taking first watch?”

“We're waiting for Hunter, and we have an interrogation to perform,” Eshe rises, arcs of electricity liberating themselves from her fingertips as they ozone the air. With a graceful sway of her hips in her sheer lack of modesty, she plants herself behind the amputed soldier, picking up her head with all of its fair features and positioning it upon her lap like a mother would her child as she massages the girl's temples.

>>30448468
Only for the people that actually really really really love the priest. The tidal wave alone didn't do it for most of San Diego, it took wave + maiming.

With a sudden spark, the girl jolts awake from her induced coma and immediately begins thrashing as though she had arms, her skull and ribs beginning to glow and the pattern of her phantom skeleton bearing a similar light.
All of this in a moment before Eshe delivers another jolt to destroy the girl's focus on her power.
Like a mother to a child, even as the desperation and defiance is pronounced upon the girls face, Eshe whispers with a sick and serene calm,”There, there now. We only want to ask you questions before you return. Humor us, yes?”

The girl's eyes eventually focus on Eshe as she hyperventilates and then spits at Eshe, whom does not even flinch as the loogie slimes its way down her dusky skin.
“Where are you from?”

The girl sticks out her tongue.

>[] Shove water in her mouth and solidify it.
>[] Apply steam to make her scream.
>[] Leave it to Eshe.

Then.

>[] Ask your own question?
>[] Remain silent.

>>30448479
Shit's about to get weird...

>>30448509
>[] Leave it to Eshe.
>[] Remain silent.

>>30448509
>>[] Apply steam to make her scream.
>[] Remain silent.

>>30448509
>[] Apply steam to make her scream.

>>30448509
>[] Shove water in her mouth and solidify it.

Keep it in there for maybe 30 seconds, enough to seriously panic her since she can't breathe, and then remove it.

Tell her we can keep her alive for days finding ways to make it hurt without killing her, but we really just want answers.

>>30448536
>>30448575
There's a limit to how many times we can steam her, we do it enough and she will die from shock and repeated injury. We want her alive, at least for now.

But choking her like this, we can do it without any injury to her, just pain and fear.

>>30448509
I'd prefer to let Eshe handle it, but what about waterboarding her?

I'd like to ask about the military's presence in the area at some point during the interrogation, but not right away.

>>30448631
This guy has the right of it.

>>30448631
Oh, forgot to mention, ask what her name is.

She might answer that one, maybe name, rank, and serial number, and you get people to answer bigger questions by getting them to answer the smaller ones first.

>>30448509
>[] Shove water in her mouth and solidify it.
Make sure it isn't so much that it pops her throat or something.

>>30448633
>>30448652
also these for questions

>>30448509
>>[] Apply steam to make her scream.>[] Remain silent.

>>30448509
Some questions to ask at some point during the interrogation.

Why someone so young is working in the military, why her hair is so white, what her magic is, get as much information as we can get about the people she works for and with, what they know about the Followers.

>>30448509
>Steam her

>>30448631
We're doing it once, we can try the water block later instead of repeating. There's a chance she'll die from that too if we can't remove it fast enough. Finally, steam is more effective.

>>30448759
You can go without breathing for a decent while without permanent damage, it is far from pleasant, and it triggers a number of panic reflexes in someone when it happens.

Steam is quicker, but I wouldn't say it's more effective.

I prefer the water block because we can turn the pain on and off as we choose, we can make her suffer for as long as we could possibly want, occasionally letting her get gasps of air before choking her again, or not hurt her at all, if we steam burn her it's just plain going to hurt no matter what we do afterwards. It's more precise and lets us not torture her when she's giving us good info.

If she resists the choking thing we can use steam, or try both, but we may as well start with the polite one.

And we use MF on Ice and Steam too or only water?

>>30448872
Yes. All water forms.

>>30448509
>>[] Shove water in her mouth and solidify it.
>>[] Ask about her magic

>>30448872
We can use Materia Firma on both of those, I want to make sticky napalm steam with it some time, they both still fall under the umbrella of water.

Once we level up Materia Firma we can use it on other elements we pick up an affinity for without any trouble.

>>30448867
We aren't polite, and we aren't patient.

I hope by 'solidify' you mean phase change and not materia firma, no point in holding a sustained magical effect in a bone's mouth

>>30448904
>Get Florakinesis
>Make an oak tree flow like water

>>30448919
This is partially why I wanted to just do plain old waterboarding.

>>30448905
We're not in a hurry, we're waiting for Hunter anyways.

And I'd prefer to start with the more precise one. Also, it's quieter, we don't have to listen to shrill screaming. We can even ask her questions while she's quietly choking.

Using water to cut off air supplies seems better suited for interrogations than burning them.

>>30448919
I don't think she can really focus much on that when drowning, and turning solid water into liquid water won't really improve her situation.

As the teeth come down, you force water into her mouth and solidify it, preventing her from swallowing it down or cutting through her tongue. Her teeth begin to shine briefly to chew through it, only to be interrupted by Eshe's ministrations as she gracefully touches the girl's jaw and slackens it briefly with controlled voltage.
“Asher, I said that I am not a warrior.” She stares down at the girl that's begun to panic with her mouth clogged up, attempted to kick contort and flail, if only she actually had the arms to do so.

You let it go for long enough for asphyxiation to start“We have ways to keep you alive for days if need be, now tell us your name.” You remove the water at once and she just attempts to bite through her tongue again.
You assist with a bit of steam this time, forcing vapors to burn her mouth and causing her to scream in pain as Helia recoils from it all.

“I- I'll be over here, tell me when you finish.” She shies away to cover her ears and look away, soon accompanied by Aerin.

“Tell us your name.” Eshe repeats this time as she caresses the cheek of the young woman, the electricity boiling off a surface layer of flesh.

Tears stream from the girl's eyes as even you wince a little at the sight.
She takes deep, rasping breaths looking at nothing in particular as her eyes glaze over with a sort of distance, a more subtle electric prod bringing her back.
“I commend you for your resistance, but our patience grows thin. Tell us your name.”

The girl wheezes,”None... No. Name. DXII. DXII.”
Eshe's stare remains on the girl,”Mean anything to you Asher?”

>What's that sound like Asher?

>She's talking... What next?

>>30449006
And Eshe is just going to zap her every time she tries to do anything.

>>30449024
512

>>30449024
Roman Numerals, maybe.
Just let eshe continue, she seems to have it under control.


>>30449066
this number

>>30449024
"Sounds like Roman numerals, it's nice to meet you 512."

Now that she's being cooperative don't hurt her any more, work with Eshe to ask her questions, make sure her answers are internally consistent. If she answers well then be kind, don't hurt her, be nice about our questioning, don't yell or threaten her.

There's a lot of questions to ask, like how old is she, where was she born, where did she train, who trained her to use magic and fight, what magic does she have, what their numbers are, and so on and so forth. And if the other corpses have white hair like hers then ask why their hair is white. Also, ask about the gadgets that she had on her.

So, clones? I'm thinking clones.

>>30449194
Also about the military presence in the region.

>>30449200
That or ex-prisoner mages.

So I remember that Dran was hoping we'd pick Susanoo as new name because it would let him write the other characters ribbing him bout it and calling him Susy.

I wonder what's going to happen when we start going on about the goddess with a very similar name to our own.

>>30449268
Probably nothing really.

>>30449214
Yes, that too. Especially ask how it's concentrated, where they're focusing on.

Also, how did they track us down, where their supplies are.

We'll also want to loot the bodies, they might have stuff we want.

>>30449200
I'm not sure, it's only been 1 year since the Aurora. Not that long.

If anyone could make clones like this, and magical clones no less, it'd probably take a very high leveled Evoker with a focus in something like Water, Life, or something like that. If all of the enemies share physical characteristics you might be on to something.

Or they could just be mindfucked.

“512, it's a roman numeral. Not really used anywhere anymore.” You say,
“Learn something new every day.” Eshe whispers, her voice still bearing that cold calmness as she stares down at the girl that whimpers in Eshe's grasp like a scared pup.
“Where are you from?” She asks in her lucid tone, slowly carressing the girl as she shivers under Eshe's grasp, fear taking place of the defiance she had before.
“O-Olympus.” The girl shudders, a cold sweat pouring over her brow.
“And where is that? Is it a nice place?” Eshe's tone is like one of a mother or grandmother speaking to a visiting child. Distant yet almost caring.
“It does n-not c-comprehend.” The girl says as Eshe bends down deeper.
“What?” Her tone changes.
“It does not comprehend the q-question, ma'am.” She starts to cry with tears streaming down her face as Eshe gently pushes them back with a clear tenderness. Only, it's with the same hands that have boiled a mark across her face.

“This is getting weird Eshe... How old are you?” Seeing that young face bothered you some, but now there's something you're wondering...
The girl at first tries to look to you, to answer the question, yet a sudden tingle from Eshe forces her eyes back up,”Six.”
“Six years old? What the f-”
“A-apologies, it is six months.”

Eshe sneers at this, with absolute disgust as she spits to the side,”We forbid children. Asher, know this, children are forbidden. What the fuck is this. Who trained you? Who did this to you?”

The girl stares at Eshe for a moment, the fear in her eyes lost as she seems to remember something,”Goodbye.” She smiles into Eshe's eyes and the girl's bones glow again.

Eshe administers voltage like before, yet the girl seems to ignore it entirely as she whispers,”Goodbye,” once more.

Eshe's hands tremble with voltage as the girl's flesh smokes, trying to get her to stop, Eshe's demeanor completely changing into one of panic as you stand by with a stunned silence.
“Stop, no! Don't do this! Please, stop!” She screams down at the girl.

Helia and Aerin come around to see what's going on and halt in their step instantly as they watch the scene unfold.

For a moment, you expected her to regrow her arms and legs to try to strangle one of you with. Then you thought that she might explode or something, but you removed anything that looked like a wire.
The girl's bones continue to glow until finally they seem to break, the streams of power themselves crack as blood pours out of her nose and teeth disappear. Blood seeps through her flesh as it disintegrates, leaving nothing but the clothes.

The soldier, 512. DXII is gone, nothing left but a pile of bloody underclothes.

Eshe stares down, distraught and furious as you've never seen her before. She brushes away tears, yet ends up covering her face in blood.

>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.
>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.
>[] (Other)

>>30449636
>>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

>>30449636
>Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

>>30449636
>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.

"They will pay for what they have done, we'll make sure of it."

Also, remember to check the other corpses, see if they're also white haired and younger than they should be.

>>30449636
Well, that was fuckiing depressing.
>Comfort the Eshe

>>30449636
>>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.
Well, that was fucked up.

>>30449636
>>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.
Do not touch the angry Eshe

>>30449636
>Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.
I don't want to die today.

>>30449636
>>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

>>30449636
>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

>>30449636
>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.

Do not sneak up on her, make sure us approaching is easy to hear, or that she can see us coming. No sudden movements or anything like that.

She's shown that she's somewhat fond of us and doesn't want to hurt us, we'll be alright.

>>30449636
>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.

>>30449636
>[] Put a hand on Eshe's shoulder, try to comfort her.

>>30449636
>>[] Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

She needs a bit of alone time

>>30449636
Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

>>30449636
>Stand back with Helia and Aerin. Give Eshe her space.

You stand back beside the others for the moment as Eshe trembles with her rage, unleashing the crackle of electricity as she slams a fist into the ground. Taking a deep breath, she punches up the child's clothes and weeps into them for a moment before casting them to the side, the weathering of her face looking the worse for wear as the blood of the girl stains her body.
“She has returned. It is unfortunate that it had been so soon in her life... To think that she would choose the most painful way to die...”

Aerin steps forward, looking at the African woman in her despair,”What... was that?”

“The Ache.” Eshe says dryly,”It is there for a reason as is Asher's Burn. When we go too far as Bones, our bodies can not withstand it. We die from the inside-out. It must be more painful than anything we can imagine...”

Aerin falters, stepping back as you put a hand on the woman's shoulder, drawing her away from Eshe.
“Take your time, I'll get some water to clean you up.”

“Thank you Asher.”

Hunter came back that night, talking about what happened before during that sandstorm. The one that ran got away, though he felt them somewhere in the distance, just couldn't see them for some reason. You filled him in on 512 when he asked about why Eshe looks like shit. He gave her some peace while you all decided what the plan was...

>>30449983
weeeeeeeeeellllll i'm not sorry. bones are shit.

You know the general directions you need to take to hit LA.
There's the roundabout route that you'll get by going north and following the road east. Problem is that friend warned about the retreating military line, though more prudent concern would be that the road is a supply line. You could possibly hinder the supply train by getting at that road....

Or the direct route that takes your lot over a mountain and into a small-ish town called Pahrump or something.
With LA a hop and skip over another mountain. A shorter walk if you commandeer a vehicle...

Eshe, with her being so sullen leaves the decision to you. Hunter and Aerin seem interested in the town, while Helia's more interested in hitting that road.
“If it helps Friend...” She says.

>[] Hit the road, break it, and commandeer a vehicle from the military line. Anyone say joyride?
>[] Go to Pahrump, you could use real food and a shower. Swear if you eat one more cactus or Eshe offers one more damn scorpion..
>[] Head to Pahrump, but skip around it to avoid attention. Go directly to LA.

>>30450037
>[] Hit the road, break it, and commandeer a vehicle from the military line. Anyone say joyride?

>>30450037
>>[] Go to Pahrump, you could use real food and a shower. Swear if you eat one more cactus or Eshe offers one more damn scorpion..
FOOD FOOD FOOD FOOD FOOD

>>30450037
>Hit the road, break it, and commandeer a vehicle from the military line. Anyone say joyride?

>>30450037
>Go directly to Vegas
Woah, my bad. Fuck'n Las.

>>30450037
>[] Hit the road, break it, and commandeer a vehicle from the military line. Anyone say joyride?

fuq the po-lice

>>30450037
>[] Hit the road, break it, and commandeer a vehicle from the military line. Anyone say joyride?

With a vehicle we'll get there even faster than just going directly on foot.

>Don't keep GPS because you don't want to deal with military.
>Go to military convoy to hijack something on a main road.
Strife will deliver more LIMIT points but... Really?

>>30450095
Remember Dran. /tg/ Always likes to play the smart stealthy type but then proceeds to jump into danger as soon as they can.

But yeah, this is a stupid decision. I hope you make us pay for it.

>>30450037
>[] Go to Pahrump, you could use real food and a shower. Swear if you eat one more cactus or Eshe offers one more damn scorpion..

First, we can do our favor to Asherah here, it'll probably be easier to pull it off here than in Vegas. Second, we can enter Vegas not looking like crazy people that just came out of the desert if we clean up and get fresh clothes, I'd rather draw a bit of attention in Pahrump then in Vegas.

Link to this post with only the number. Anything else will not be counted.

>1 Commandeer a military vehicle and disrupt a supply line.
>2 Go over a mountain to get to Pahrump for a pit-stop.
>3 Stick to the wild desert and go directly to Vegas.

>>30450037
>[] Go to Pahrump, you could use real food and a shower. Swear if you eat one more cactus or Eshe offers one more damn scorpion..

>>30450124
2

>>30450124
2

>>30450124
2

>>30450124
2

>>30450131
Post it like
>>30450134
>>30450138
these two or it won't count.

Just the link, and the number. Nothing else.

>>30450124
2

>>30450095
There is a way to make a logically consistent thought process out of /tg/s schizophrenia: Carrying the GPS is asking them to attack us, giving them the advantage of choosing the time, location, making the first strike, etc. Making our own attack on the road turns the tables, giving us the Attacker's advantage.

>>30450124
2

>>30450154
I admit, I would prefer to be on the offensive then the defensive. It's easier for me to plan if we have the drop on them, we can set a trap for them.

But right now I'd like to get to town, I'm not eager for a fight right now.

>>30450154
I had something similar typed out, but I just erased it since I figured it was meaningless to type it. All those votes were from a blatant samefag

>>30450049
>>30450061
>>30450072
>>30450083
All were 1min 2-3seconds apart, all were different and none of them would have taken very long to think up.

>>30450177
Oh yeah, Pahrump is almost as good for getting boosts, since we'll get to start doing Mythos quests.

End vote.

Alright, so no five manning a military convoy.

It was gonna be bad.

>>30450188
>to type it
so send it*

>>30450095
>Strife will deliver more LIMIT points but... Really?
Speaking of LIMIT points...
Meh. I guess we just didn't push ourselves far enough with it.

>>30450228
Bullshit. We deserve at least 1 for todays battle.

>>30450195
Yeah, I figured it'd be a painful experience.

Can we pick up Oaths before we go about drowning a priest in broad daylight? Sculptor would make it a lot easier to freeze the exits shut, which would both be dramatic and trap people in the church for our "sermon".

Actually, that fight did make me realize something about our summons. They are more like adding people to the party than traditional summons. We fill up the tank outside of combat and they are good to go and we can use our turns doing regular mage stuff. I do get the feeling Fara would get jealous of any other summons that might vie for her 'position.'

>>30450284
Yeah, Fara sorta went full Yandere. She's ranking our female allies on how much of a "threat" they are and is doing the creepy giggling thing and wants to kill for us all the time.

Which, I guess is pretty good. Better than her being a wishy washy worthless refuses to fight summon.

She's cool with the crows, so she'll probably be cool with things that aren't really like peoples. Packs of wolves / mindless berzerker things / whatever should be summonable without any bullshit. We just need to actually reach a rank that can support multiples without incurring massive burn.

>>30450350
It's our own fault for having her go off on her own. We have her too much power too soon without making a clear cut contract with her.

>>30450228
Just about to get to that.

> 3 LIMIT rewarded
1 is from a retroactive decision to give you summoning for free due to background.

Recommendations of what to upgrade/purchase

=Mirage package=
>Mirage to Apprentice
>Purchase Photokinesis

This will allow for illusions to be cast on more than just ice and make them far more believable that before.

=Beginner's Weather Package=
>Water to Apprentice
>Purchase Aerokinesis

Will set Asher on the path of weather manipulation and eventual lightning generation. Also has groundwork for Alchemy.

=Pyro Edition=
>Upgrade Steam
>Store point to increase it to the next rank to make it fire.

Advances in alchemy and increases combat potential via fire while also opening up routes for pyromancy and pyrokinesis.

>>30450284
Numbers are useful in a fight, one of the reasons I like Summons, and we can spend some of our magic in combat to charge them more if we need to. It's versatile.

I don't think she'd mind some summons, she'd be fine with wolves, lions, ravens, other animals and the like.

Introducing other sentient ones will be trickier. But I think we can manage it if we don't rely on the others too much, and we carefully introduce them to each other. Though if any of our other summons are also pretty girls things might get more complicated.

>>30450418
Put em all into Summoning.

>>30450427
Summoning requires 4 until the next upgrade.

>>30450418
>>Water to Apprentice
>>Purchase Aerokinesis
I like this.

>Advances in alchemy and increases combat potential via fire while also opening up routes for pyromancy and pyrokinesis.
Wait wait wait. Elaborate. I thought we needed to buy fire BEFORE alchemy, not the other way around.

>>30450418
>mirage package

>>30450435
It was a joke anyways. What allows us to control gravity?

>>30450418
Florakinesis please.

>>30450418
Mirage

>>30450438
>>Advances in alchemy and increases combat potential via fire while also opening up routes for pyromancy and pyrokinesis.
>Wait wait wait. Elaborate. I thought we needed to buy fire BEFORE alchemy, not the other way around.
Meant that it advances your efforts to alchemy.

>>30450447
Advancing water. You can liken it to lunar pull and by proxy create gravity effects.

>>30450418
You're gonna need to do a numbers vote for this if you don't want massive samefagging. I can already see it starting.
>>30450441
>>30450454
>1min 1 second apart
>same choice
>typed slightly differently

>>30450418
=Beginner's Weather Package=
>Water to Apprentice
>Purchase Aerokinesis

That

>>30450475
everyone else is doing it too, I don't see why I shouldn't
even playing field

>>30450459
Alright. I've been wondering this for a long long while now. Why the fuck is water so god damn OP in this setting? This is so ridiculous.