Open>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMxJkTaE4IPrevious threads:>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Over%28Human%29Limit%20QuestLast>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/29814791/Previously: Asher is baptized, thus completing his initiation into the followers at Friend's behest as The Followers rally to stake claim for the ruined city of San Diego.Moving to action in the twilight hours, Asher reminisces with the colors of the sky what he'd done the day they had first come to be. Amidst the riots he sought out his own gratification.At the the "signal" He, Eshe, Aerin, Helia, and Hot Rod move to breach the triple layered barricade established by the U.S. Military.Fara obliterates a sniper after Asher locates their position with a complimentary summon of a raven.Helia's the one to open the wall and Eshe rushes in ahead running her natural voltage through the opposition while the main force of the followers distract the soldiers with a frightful opposition.With Asher burning away his powers into the night three Government Overs are slain by his group, with Aerin saved by a last moment burst of steam and her own sonic-boom of a punch.With a tactical retreat, and Asher slowly awakening a helicoptor hovering just above his group is a welcome sight.Eshe delivered.Twitter>https://twitter.com/Overhuman_QuestAsher's Sheet>http://pastebin.com/kmsL31FP
>>30398867Time to get out of the flooded city, and go to the desert. I liked being in a flooded city as a water mage, it made life easier.And I like the new picture, it reminds me of JJBA.
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/30378453/#30387212Unlocking Alchemy can be done by unlocking Fire, Earth, and Air manipulation.Alchemy would be something that would be very good to get, as it would allow Asher to create permanent changes in the world through his magic and eventually achieve immortality through the creation of a Philosopher's Stone (would also require summoning, apparently)http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/30246785/#30255905With our rank up in summoning, we can force a summon to do things now, so we don't have to worry as much about unruly summons. If we summon a wendigo or something similarly vicious, we can force it to not eat us.
>>30398984I didn't draw it. Saying that now. And I'm still working on the color.If anyone wants to take a swing at it, I can throw out the untouched version.
>>30399009I wanted to address the difference of Alchemy and Materia Firma.Alchemy would physically change a substance from one thing to another.While the Materia Firma into Enchantment line changes its properties.Enchantment can cause a body of fire to have solid mass, to burn without heat, and burn for days or even weeks,Alchemy can change lead into gold, earth into water, and initiate chemical reactions.
Ok. Let's discuss Satanism and the perks and disadvantages.
>>30399077I understood the difference between MF and Alchemy, but I wanted to know why exactly MF couldn't branch into something similar to Alchemy.I don't understand how Fire/Water/Air/Earth control is more related to shifting the atomic structure than MF. It just seems to me that Alchemy would branch off of MF, not elemental control.If it's balance or setting stuff, I understand. Still seems odd, but I can accept that.
>>30399107If Asher were to follow LaVeyan Satanism, that would be fine with me.Turning the 9 Statements and 11 Rules into Oaths would also be fine with me.I don't think that it's a good idea to turn the Sins into Oaths. It would be perfectly fine for Asher to attempt to observe them as part of his beliefs, but turning them into magically binding oaths would be disadvantageous for him and I think he's smart enough to realize that.
>>30399192But isn't LaVeyan more or less atheism? I would like to summon some of Lucifers warriors. Make a pact with them and offer them something they want or make trustful and wonderful allies.
>>30399228Oh. I would rather not go for that kind of Satanism.We already get a bonus towards summons from the ancient Sumerians because of our name. I'd rather stick with that than go for Lucifer warriors out of nowhere.Or go with LaVeyan since it's already more or less exactly how Asher lives.
>>30399274But you're being contradicting. LaVeyan is basically atheism. You can't have that and still have the bonus for Sumerians.
>>30399009Alchemy would be snazzy, though I'd prefer our next couple Limit Points be spent towards leveling up our current stuff. I'd personally like 1-2 Spells, probably the ones with Oaths attached, at Adept before we grab anything new.>>30399107Which variety of Satanism are you thinking of?LaVeyan would give us some good targets for Oaths, and might also do some other stuff. Also, it fits well with how Asher operates.Theistic Satanism would open a lot of metaphorical doors, we could negotiate with demons better as well as other benefits for connecting closer to our magic. But it might close doors as well and we'd probably have to pay in some manner for these benefits, nothing comes for free.
>>30399318You guys could actually feasibly have both forms of satanism. Though either one may lock you out of Sumerian.You'll want to save some of this for when you're more "noteworthy."
>>30399318I never said that I'd like to gun for LaVeyan, I just said that I wouldn't mind going with most of it.-1 = Dont want0 = Wouldn't mind1 = Want.LaVeyan is a 0. Satanism like you're saying is a -1. Sumerian is also a 0.
I'm voting for the Satanism that let's us summon demons. Sorry if others disagree. I do understand what problems you might have with that. But I feel like the advantages outweigh the problems.
>>30399403This isn't Shin Megami Tensei...
>>30399433No, it isn't. But it fits this setting fairly well. Also I just like the art.
Can someone explain to me, clearly, why you want Satanism? I'm not seeing it. It looks like a giant mess; dealing with all the negative aspects of summoning in full force for not much gain, possibly alienating our mage allies, and locking us out of Sumerian which is throwing away our name bonus when Sumerian is confirmed for being pretty damn powerful.
>>30399540Because access to tons of extremely powerful and loyal beings? Not just strength but knowledge.
>>30399608>Demons>LoyalPowerful I'll give you, but there is no way in hell demons are loyal beings.That it will give us knowledge beyond all other options is also just speculation.
>>30399540I just want what's best for Asher.
Is Dran dead?
>>30399663Depends on what fiction we summon them from. If we were to summon them from SMT universe, then they would ask for an item, heal or magic (drain in this case) and they would devote themselves to us.
>>30399681I do not believe that it is best for Asher. If you can explain why it is, then I will gladly support it because I really don't have anything that I actively want myself.As it is now, though, I see Satanism and demons galore as a terrible idea. Constant backstab attempts and plotting from our summons, alienation of our current most valuable assets, and the inevitable "lol fuck the succubus what could go wrong" happening.
>>30399740This is not the SMT universe. Summoning thins from modern fiction is difficult, inefficient, and generally not worth it.
The metal door locks closed as the blades pick up, bringing up the altitude. The ruined buildings of the drowned city become less imposing, just a bit further away. Most everyone slumps into a seat and buckles in with Eshe taking the cockpit, silent in her concentration as she pilots this whirling bird.Your body's a bit numb from your previous exertions, so you decide to walk around a bit, steadying your feet against the shit of the helicopter into forward motion. At a window you can see the chaos taking place upon the main road out of the city.The barricades established outside of the city to keep The Followers stand out against their flames, fire, and lightning as beings of insurmountable power fight each other amidst concentrated gunfire. The explosive percussion of AM rifles tears through the air though muted between the metal door and beat of the chopper's blades.Hot Rod seems to get antsy, leaving his seat to scrounge the munitions, nobody saying anything about it.Aerin's body still looks pretty busted at this point, her right arm hanging limp. Not bleeding but still effectively useless for now. She slouches in her seat shaking intermittently, her lips shuddering in pain.Helia takes deep calm breaths as she's been so keen on. There's a grime of tar and filth accentuating her body, dirtying what clothes she has left from this whole mess. You're all getting out of here though, alive.You faintly feel Fara's presence. It feels like she too is in pain.> Check on Eshe in the cockpit. See how she's doing.> Keep watch on the perimeter outside.> Speak to the others...>-Supply Fara power. You should be able to manage that at least.>(Other)
>>30399819>> Keep watch on the perimeter outside.>-Supply Fara power. You should be able to manage that at least.
>>30399740I'm not sure we should try to draw things from the SMT universe, I think magic operates differently there, we might have the same problem we'd have with summoning Darth Vader or a Jedi and trying to have the Force work.>>30399743Not the guy you were responding to, but if we took this route Demons would be inclined to serve us without trying to fuck us over. And in a good number of varieties of Theistic Satanism Satan wants a more equal relationship with his followers than most religions. It's an interesting option.
>>30399819> Check on Eshe in the cockpit. See how she's doing.Make sure our pilot is doing alright and that there aren't any problems with our escape. Hopefully they don't even know that this helicopter was stolen. >-Supply Fara power. You should be able to manage that at least.
>>30399819>-Supply Fara power. You should be able to manage that at least.> Speak to the others...I feel like saying something here could even further cement our position as Lord of the Minions.Maybe say that we're glad they all made it through that? I dunno. What do y'all think would be good to say here to enhance emotional dependence.>>30399885That sounds a bit more reasonable. If we can get some more info from Dran about it so that it's not just us anons squabbling over speculation, that would be awesome.Until then, I'm going to hope it works like you say, but vote against it until I have something more concrete than hope.
>>30399885>SMT universeDirectly would be a bad move, but the fundamental of what "Demons" are in those games is the same thing as here. Thought forms and mythos.
>>30399935I think it's already to let things sit for a bit.
>>30399973And I can't fucking type for shit tonight. I'm done. So done. Just ignore me.
>>30399940And with this post everything will be a clamoring for "SMT SMT SMT!!!!" from now on because they'll all think that demons work exactly the same here.Awesome.
>>30400005Well, it's a good source to find Mythological figures and monsters, we just have to remember to summon what they based it off of rather than the Demon from the game itself.
>>30399973But that's how it works with all summons.We don't have to go for demons to do that.
>>30400005Eh, sorry.They're definitely not the exact same. Less binary. You're also not going to be randomly fusing them into other things.I'd think of it more as a combination between SMT's demons when it comes to the types of theings accessible and shadowrun's spirits that are far closer to the ether. In any case you're not worrying about any pacts right now because you need to summon the things before contracting in the case that you want to contract.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AnkouI want to summon one of these.They even have a little saying that goes with them that we could use to reduce the strain of summoning it.>War ma fé, heman zo eun Anko drouk. ("on my faith, this one is a nasty Ankou")
>>30400114It collects souls. That would make it pretty easy for us to create shades if we wanted.
>>30400085How would Chaos Magic work?
>>30400222That would be awesome.>Find massive fight between Overs>Send out the Ankou to skulk around>It picks up the souls of the fallen>We turn them into more shades>Tell them we 'saved' them>Feed them all bullshit about family and helping us help people>[cult leader intensifies]
>>30400237What do you define as chaos magic? Because I'd define it as probability manipulation.
>>30400290en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magicThis what I'm talking about.
You sigh gently, tapping into that feeling as you let your power flow, focusing on Fara as her silence slowly transitions into fragmented whispers.Staring out beyond the window further chaos unfolds. As you look on, you can't quite tell how long it's been ongoing. The greatest shortcoming of magic seems to be the duration.You can see a few of the glowing figures withdraw, removing themselves from the fray.Tonight's battle draws to a close it seems. Your chopper is clear of the aftermath, invisible amongst the dark colors of the sky. slowly growing more full until you can feel her near and hear her speak again. You notice at once that your body isn't suffering from quite as much burn as before.[Thank you Asher... I wasn't quite feeling... Well. May I... May I have more?]>You've topped Fara off to Grade 2. She's requesting more from you...>You may bring her up to rank 3 in which she'll recognize that she was a human once, understanding that she's a shade and become able to speak to others and manifest on her own.>Grade 4 in which she'll be able to pick up new properties and utilize any enchantments that you'll allow her. Other than that, you aren't quite sure...
>>304004243 or 4?
>>30400400Fuck it. Fara is the only thing standing between us and death most of the time.Bring her up to 3. I'd say 4 now, but I don't want her getting ahead of us too far and getting to the point that she doesn't need us or can overpower us herself.
>>304004503 for now.
>>30400400>Grade 4 in which she'll be able to pick up new properties and utilize any enchantments that you'll allow her. Other than that, you aren't quite sure...She's shown herself to be trustworthy and reliable. Give her a mental show of affection, the telepathic equivalent of a hug or a headpat, and bring her up.Though I can live with doing it one step at a time for now, I'm not in a big rush.
Should we start charging up the Ravens as well?They're good scouts. We might need them.>>30400400Could we do that in addition to raising Fara to 3
>>30400485She's shown herself to be trustworthy as something that is physically and mentally incapable of being anything else.I do not trust her with 4 yet.
>>30400400I'm fine with 3 or 4. Maybe take it gradually. I look forward to 4 and letting her know that we'd like her to be able to use her voice again, without having to hurt.But like he first, thank her for saving us from that lightning bolt.
>>30400545>But like he first, thank her for saving us from that lightning bolt.This
Also, can we do that Oath of Defense for Ice now?Seems like Ice=Good shields would be something he would come to think after he stopped himself from getting swiss-cheesed with it.
>>30400400No matter what we choose, thank her, show her some affection and kindness, she did a good job and she saved our ass from lightning, that deserves a reward.Also, charge up our Raven scout, you never know when it'll come in handy, and it won't even stand out in Vegas since they're common there.
>>30400594I think the popular Oath was some variation of the Sculptor, which isn't necessarily defense. I look forward to slamming a torrent of water into a bone and freezing it into a beautiful 'tree' on top of them. (yeah, most Bones can probably break out, but wasting their time until assistance can arrive is what we probably want to be doing with Bones).
>>30400770I just said defense because I couldn't remember the actual name we decided on and it more or less got the point across.
You oblige the Banshee as the remnants of the city-scape begin to slowly draw new existence in the horizon. Pouring power into her next threshold begins to hit your nerves like a slowly warming iron, causing your breath to quicken as you bear with the surreal feeling of heat running through your body.With Fara's recent actions in good faith, literally saving your life before your loss of consciousness, you give her your gratitude in the transition of power.A simple thank you and you can feel a frost forming upon your shoulders as her whispy form comes into being.“You are very welcome, Asher...” Her fingers of frost trace gradually down your chest before dispersing as she returns to the ether.“Woah,” Hot Rod whispers under the dull beat of the heli-blades. He must've seen Fara.[So...] She seems to churn a bit with her new power and increasing awareness forming. Well, this is it if anything.[I was human once. No, I was never human... I...](Fara, you don't need to worry about what you are.)[But...] She trails off, her voice much stronger than before within your mind, much more resolute. [I am a shade, yes? Not a human, but once was... Oh, this is confusing. May I kill someone for you? It'll calm my frozen nerves.]Your gaze dips down to the fa-reaching distance, the city's disappearing by the minute. In half an hour you won't be able to see it anymore.Shaking your arms down, you let some of the Burn go.(No, not now, not yet. You'll need to wait, and the people here are off-limits.)[Should I protect them?](I'll decide whether that is necessary. You only need to concern yourself with me.)
You turn, looking back to Hot Rod as he hoists about that ridiculous firearm in this ridiculously cramped space,”Could you watch where you're going with that thing? Set it down somewhere?”The teen's mouth drops, and he hurriedly puts it to the floor.“Safety off?”“I'm not an amateur dude, I've been hunting before.” He slides the rifle underneath the seats, securing it with belts for passengers.“So, that was your summon thing, right?”You simply nod,[My name is Fara.] “Her name is Fara.” you put your gaze back outside and swallowing shallowly as you think of what comes next.“That was actually pretty awesom... I'm uh, still trying to figure out what all I should do...” The kid's vision shifts to Eshe in the pit and Aerin in her seat,”The other two don't look too good. They've got the shakes something bad. Think I saw Eshe bleeding a bit.”> ”Is she okay? Do we have medical supply?”> “She should be fine, she's the only one that can fly this, right?”> “What do you think of all this?”> (Other)
>>30400863>Oh, this is confusing. May I kill someone for you? It'll calm my frozen nerves.Wow. I didn't like Fara that much before this to be honest, but I'm glad we picked her.Best girl. Shade. Whatever.>>30400888> (Other)Does Asher know any mythology about things that heal people?Maybe he might try that? It would be a good opportunity to experiment on others first before he ever needs it, and he can look like the big damn hero or at least a cool guy for getting his minions healed.
>>30400888> “She should be fine, she's the only one that can fly this, right?”
>>30400888>> ”Is she okay? Do we have medical supplies?”Even if I knew the right kind of magic, I don't know if I could help Eshe, mine pollutes hers.Eshe is priority 1, as pilot. (Asher is always priority 0).
>>30400888>> ”Is she okay? Do we have medical supply?”If our pilot dies we're FUCKED
>>30400979Well, Water is associated with healing, rebirth, life, rejuvenation, and so on, but we don't have it at high enough a level to do that with it, and healing people is already difficult due to needing to overcome their magic resistance.
>>30400979I tried to find anything Healing related that wasn't a god.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesphorus_(mythology) - Demigod. Brings recuperation from injury to its fulfillment.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erinle - African healing spirit. Also the patron of gays. Hue hue hue.>>30401037I wasn't talking about using our water to do it ourself, I wanted to summon up something that can heal them.
>>30401005>Even if I knew the right kind of magic, I don't know if I could help Eshe, mine pollutes hers.Eshe is a Bone, not a Vein. And healing would probably work better on a Vein because of the vulnerability anyway.
>>30401138she's a vein, not a bone
>>30401173No, she is a Bone. Pay attention or even just read the pastebin.>Name: Eshe>Age: Early 20's>Height: 5'6">Build: Athletic>Race: African?>Over-type: [Bone(Sea Green)]>-Amphibious form>-Floating Fall>Appearance: Often seen in a fish-like form that's a seamless mix of human and various aquatic life.>Her human form reveals that she's a young woman with a very... supple form and very little shame when it comes to being nearly naked. Black dreadlocks fall down to the middle of her back and spill over her shoulders. She doesn't look like a hardened fighter. >Bio: A woman that claimed to have pulled Asher from the wave when it hit. One of many of the Followers, others have spoken of her reports about you, yet you have not seen her. She's the fish woman. Only Bones alter themselves that much.
>>30401207whoops, eshe is the fish woman, I was thinking helia
>>30401103Dzelarhons would also work.
>>30401225>Get excited, thinking I missed something good>Nope. Something from SMT.Seriously?
>>30400888"I think Eshe will be alright, she'd have told us if she needed to be patched up.There any medical supplies in here? It's always good to have them around."We should also check on Aerin, make sure she'll be fine. If a splint of some kind would make the healing go easier we can probably make one out of what we have around, and ice if needed.And then check on Eshe, see if she needs anything, thank her for the ride, ask if they know we stole their helicopter, that sort of thing.
>>30401267Dzelarhons is a real mythological figure you fucking nimrod. SMT is also a mythological encyclopedia so stop getting so butthurt.
>>30401301I'm trying to find anything on her that isn't from SMT and the best I could find is a wikipedia page about Haida mythology that lists Dzalarhons as being associated with frogs and volcanos. She came across the Pacific with her husband and 6 canoes of people.An Encyclopedia of Goddesses and Heroines states that she avenged animals who were needlessly treated cruelly by people, sending fire down the river.Absolutely nothing about healing. She's a fucking nature spirit that blasts fire at people.
“Do we have any medical supplies?” You turn to the kid and follow his eye of concern, discerning the edge of Eshe's odd form through the window to the cockpit. “I might've seen something from when I was reloading the rifle. I know a little first aid but not much to be honest.” He seems unsure himself.“See if you can't find something, we should get Aerin into a splint.” At that word he goes to the back of the chopper to search. You take one last look out of the window before moving ahead into the cockpit, pushing through.Looking over you see exactly what Hunter was talking about. Eshe's body suppresses a tremble, blood in her seat but no source of the wound. She glances up at you through the large black eyes of her altered self.“Ah, h-hello Asher.” There's a shake even within her voice as she greets you, her attention soon returned back to flying this rig.“Hot Rod said you were hurt. Are you okay?”Eshe nods slowly,”Ah, yes, yes. Just dealing with the ache.”You lean back against the partition, bracing yourself against the occasional rumbles of the wind,”The ache?”“It is what we of the bone must bear when we use our magic. Our bones themselves hurt, ache, and even break and bleed if we go too far.”“Our powers are painful aren't they?”“You get nothing without sacrifice. Nothing without conviction. I am proud that I am capable of the things that I am.” She lets out a shuddering sigh. “Even if it does hurt.”You look back through the window, seeing Hot Rod help out Aerin, you keep your eye on the two of them, seeing if there's anywhere that you may help. “Do they know we stole this bird?”
“They will know soon enough. Asher, you hold a summon, yes?”“Yes.” Fara answers, forming frost upon the air into a single glowing eye.“Ah, what is your name, powerful spirit?”“Fara”“Asher has been kind to you?”“I suppose.” A bit of teasing from Fara.“If I may ask, Fara and Asher, should a missile be fired upon us, could I count on you to freeze this vehicle?”“Why?” You turn back, Fara's frozen eye meeting yours for a moment before you both look to Eshe.“We have learned of those that seek heat. The other option is that I throw my own life away to meet it. “> ”Sure, yes.”> “I'm just doing everything, aren't I? Fara and I that is.”> “No, you can deal with it. I trust that you'll make it back alive.”> “Anything else? What are we going to Vegas for anyway?”
>>30401577I was hoping you wouldn't look to deep into it>>30401606>> “I'm just doing everything, aren't I? Fara and I that is.”
>>30401619That's kinda scumbaggish. You know that Dran would look into it if we voted to summon her.>>30401606>> ”Sure, yes.”Yeah. We can do that.Can we take that Oath of the Sculptor? We might need it soon if suddenly missiles...
>>30401606"You can hardly pilot this vehicle and stop missiles at the same time, we can handle it.How much fuel does the bird have? Enough to make it near our destination, or are we going to have to land it and take a more clandestine method of approach?"
>>30401606> ”Sure, yes.”If we take up an Ice Oath; otherwise ask Fara if she could handle that, since she is more attuned to Ice.Ask Eshe if her condition is going to improve on it's own or if she needs help.
>>30401606> ”Sure, yes.”
Moon rabbits anyone?
>>30401647Fara's better with Ice, I think we should take an oath of Summoning.
>>30401731No, we want to leave summoning un-oathed because we plan to take it to Divine rank.Take oaths in the other skills to support getting it there. We've been over this already.
>>30401647That's so actually. when you guys present me something I look into it.> 1 Oath of the Sculptor: You may not use ice to create weapons however all other constructs are far game so long as they are not made with the intention to inflict harm.>2 No Oath.As a note, she only brought it up as a precaution.
>>30401731Oath of summoning is good. I don't really feel like restricting ourselves to ice. I would prefer at the worst an oath of water
>>30401749uh no, we want water manipulation at divine, and summoning to support it>>30401776>2
>>30401805Ice and water spells are different. It won't restrict you forging weapons out of water with Materia Firma.
>>30401799The oaths we're talking about restrict the use of the given subject; that's why we DON'T want an oath on summoning, since it restricts what seems like is going to be Asher's primary interest.
>>30401834I don't want any variation of water to be restricted, solid, liquid, or gas.
>>30401799What? Could you tell me real quick how you think oaths work? Because it doesn't seem like you really get it.
Water a shit. Light manipulation is pure
>>30401876An Oath is assigned as something practiced to reinforce or restrict to increase the power of what it is assigned to.It does not force you into one spell category.
>>30401835Oh. Well then sure. Let's ice oath it up. i suppose we won't really be "building ice objects with the intent of harm" very often right?Also is it possible in anyway for Asher to learn healing either through the use of summons or the various states of water?
>new people voting without understanding how oaths work
>>30401902It will be possible through more advanced stages of either.
>>30401805We could take Water and Summoning to Divine. The estimate on OVERLIMIT points was 3 or 4.I think that Alchemy or Materia Firma might also make good Divine rank candidates.Putting oaths on Ice would help to work towards that.
Muilearteach can bring the dead back to lifeMoon rabbits are able to to create the elixer of life.Ruamano has to grant sea salt healing abilities.
We're going to get a missile shot at us and then fuck up the freezing and unbalance the blades, arent we...
>>30401706>>30401970What in the fuck are you talking about?
>>30401959How about we just take a good summoning oath, like not giving our summons too much control lest they fuck us over? I'm already nervous about how Fara weaseled her way into more power.
>>30401980That depends. Can we just make an icy mist throughout the cabin and such? Cool everything down to the point it loses us? Maybe a sheet of ice along the landing things. Maybe just a 5ft thick cocoon of ice and try and make it thicker before we hit the ground?
Summoning at Divine or bust. I doubt we're even going to stay with water for long before going to gravity or fire manipulation.
>>30402003That's a terrible idea, you're cutting off a lot of our potential power.
>>30402020If we switch to fire I will just quit the quest.
>>30402003That's not something that really works as an Oath. An oath has to actually restrict you.
>>30402020fuck that, water to divine
>>30402042We kinda have to at least unlock fire to get alchemy, which is all kinds of bonkers.I'd rather use water than fire, though.
>>30402042Good. Faggots like yourself who want to pointlessly limit ourselves ruin everything.
>>30402020He did say we could do gravity and pressure pretty simply.
>>30402042What about creating firewater?A magic that literally bears both qualities if burning, combustion, cobductivity and an ability to turn into steam or freeze?Over Magic is some crazzzy high magic stuff. Whether you guys want to specialize or mix less potent magics you're still just gaining more power.
>>30402098No dice, Dran. Most people seem to only want water and nothing else.
>>30402098I would like to narrow down for once.So many quests seem to do that thing where the mc is a swiss army knife of powers.
>>30402136Except being a swiss army knife of powers seems to be a GOOD thing in this setting.
>>30402136We could aim for good old fashioned fuck-you-size beam spam. What would that be, light, heat?
>>30402149nah, better to have focus
>>30402156That is the least imaginative thing possible. We are going to be able to fuck physics and all rational interpretations of reality and you want lasers?
>>30402149Either one of them is a good thing. It's entirely possible to just brute force everything.Take Violet for example. Maxed out her mind control and summons. It was ridiculously effective.Putting a ton of points into summoning would let us do both. Have a couple big summons like future Fara that can brute force things but also have the ability to throw together any kind of weaker summon we could need for a situation.
>>30402107I got non beef against anything else apart from fire. Fire is literally the most limited of all the magics. Why can't we control the water in someones brain and just pop them? I'm not sure what other elements we have access to, unless it is up to the imagination in which case...
>>30402098>Further apps:Unleash a wave of burning water that washes through the street, melting the tires of cars to the pavement before turning into steam and condensing just above the street before falling back down as a fiery rain.Then finishing off by freezing into a solid sheet of physical burning.Just an idea. Powerful nerves can pretty much induce SAN checks.
>>30402190Lasers are simple and effective. We can grab them and use them forever.
>>30402208>Why can't we control the water in someones brain and just pop them?This shit was covered on the first day.>*Spells that directly affect a human body requires direct contact. This means that water manipulation CAN be used to exsanguinate someone, though you'd need to make direct contact and muscle through their magical resistance(aura/AT field/Chi/) This means that it can be much more efficient to launch a shard of ice into their throat when going for a kill. Close range is never recommended for Evoker Nerves.
>>30402211I liked the Napalm Steam idea
>>30402208Advanced fire will open up other things from mythos that fire is associated with.Rebirth, purification, destruction, change, etc.Humans have natural magic resistance that prevents direct manipulation of their forms without a costly breach or direct contact.You could shake someone's hand and boil their blood though.
>>30402251I really want to rank up water and illusion for water clones and ice mirrors and fog and all kinds of lovely stuff.
>>30402208Fire means a lot more than just combustion, it's a force of creativity, innovation, and yes, destruction as well.
>>30402211I like this.I like it. Alot.It is pain that can be manipulated, moved around, even seen.Mist it, work to keep people from touching it. Make it seem like normal mist. Then, when the actual ambush happens, stop controlling it (save to keep it from hurting your allies), and it'll condense on them just from them being there.I like this idea.
>>30402270We could make some simple thoughtforms that look like Asher. They would essentially be water clones since we're using water as the base of our summons already.
Can we at least wait until we have a fucking LIMIT POINT before talking about this shit?
>>30402297they'd be somewhat independent thoughwe want absolute control
>>30402098Can we develop our oath abilities beyond the initial boost, or are we restricted to just forever being locked at that point.Granted, we'd have to be good enough to justify these 'boosts', but I think it'd be worth it~
>>30402349We can force summons to do what we want.Especially if we don't give them lots of power.
>>30402320We are talking about this shit because we are deciding wether or not to make an oath
>>30402270>water and illusion>Add in thoughtforms and you have independent entities in bodies of water that can change what you see in them.Fuck... San checks everywhere.
>>30402374Fara has led me to believe this is false.
I don't know if this was answered already or not. But if we have a skill at Divine rank and we take a oath for that rank will it push it BEYOND Divine? Or will it just pointless add a limitation with no payoff?
>>30402402>But yeah, you can force a summon's actions if need be. http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/30246785/#30255905
>>30402410Limitation with no pay off.
>>30402396Pretty sure the vote already decided "No"
>>30402402Fara is half thoughtform half mythos, and the point of a water/mist clone is to have the minimum amount of power invested in it so it isn't wasted when someone pops it instead of us. Independence comes from giving them more power.
>>30402432Well in that case, send that missile at use so we can crash in the warzone already!
>>30402410It's already been answered. Oaths offer no positive bonus to skills at Divine Rank.Oaths cannot bring a skill to Divine rank, as it requires an OVERLIMIT point.Once you bring a skill to Divine, Oaths are 100% negative.
>>30402400Ok then! Not a huge fan of summoning, but I guess others are so I can deal with it.
>>30402432Half the votes against taking it were done in different manners instead of looking the same, making me very suspicious or samefagging, and if we keep putting off taking an Oath we'll probably end up getting fucked over due to lack of power.
>>30402487make it a vote for summoning oaths
>>30402475Not for you, other people.Imagine if you ran the bath and you saw someone else in the reflection. Then they reached for you.
“Fara and I doing everything as usual huh?”Eshe throws you a hard sideways glare, and you just smirk right back at her.”I'll do it. You can't pilot and beat down a missile at the same time, right?”“Good.” She returns her attention to the controls.“So, this bird got enough fuel to take us all the way?”“Not sure. First time I've flown out this way.” Seems that Eshe's capable of being a bit of a smartass too. That gets a chuckle out of you,”Well, let us know if we need to drop out of this thing early.” You go back to the cabin, bracing yourself for a moment as a gust rocks everything. You see that Hunter's succeeded in getting Aerin in a splint as you saunter up to her, the beat up woman looking up to you.There's not anything piteous or pleading in her eyes, more of a strange mirth, a fire of excitement actually. Not exactly what you'd have expected.“What's up with you Aerin? Ache too?” You ask, wearing a cool face. Hell you feel like you own the place.She nods, a slightly mad grin forming upon her tired face. “Hurts like a bitch but I'll make it. Thanks back there though. If you hadn't distracted that guy... I wouldn't be here right now.”She chuckles at some joke that's lost on you.“What's wrong?” You ask with a slowly raising eyebrow.She shakes her head slowly,” Nothing... It's just that this is all pretty... Ah, what's the word? Interesting. I punched that guy like a gunshot before he got me. I don't know...”You bring up a hand and curl your fingers closed as you form frost upon the air,”It's power. Amazing, right?”
>>30402503Sounds erotic. Train line to Divine.
I really wish I'd just kept my mouth shut when I noticed Dran/Ygg used the wrong trip in AoPH.This influx of new people is just a repeat of the shit we've already covered over.
>>30402500We're planning on getting that to Divine, seriously people, pay attention.We will want Oaths for Ice, probably Illusion, and some other stuff. Each Oath can save us huge amounts of Limit Points for skills we take to Master.
>>30402503Are they hot?
>>30402538uh I'm not, you might bepay attention
>>30402538I'll include a short list of Asher's current objectives and possible player leanings on what to learn or upgrade next.>>30402542They're now drowning you in your own bathwater.
>>30402574Is the water hot?
>>30402538Fuck no, Ice is water, that's going to divine.I'll see illusion to divine before summoning too.
>>30402530I hold you responsible for this, things were once productive and somewhat focused.Now we have people trying for the terrible idea of being an Oathless wonder, who will probably die.
>>30402574 Asphyxiation turns me on
>>30402602Ice is a subspell of Water that can advance on its own and leads to stuff Water itself won't.
>>30402602>Ice is waterIce levels up separately from water
>>30402642like freezing stuff?like freezing time?fuck summoning, we Dio now
>>30402616What even is AoPH? Nobody wants an oathless warrior. We are still shaping the character. It's only thread 11.
>>30402672I want some Enchanting to pull out bullshit magic items all over the place. Who Batman here?
>>30402676Dranule's other quest.
>>30402676Dran's other quest. Haven't read it because Attack On Titan isn't very good and Pokemon is only worth it for the girls.
Hot Rod looks between the two of you, smiling and laughing a bit himself,”It's like a game or a dream, right? We're like comic-book superheroes.”Aerin smiles,”I know, right? What else.. There's a lot of things that we must be capable of.”The three of you discuss your abilities as Eshe flies the bird. The steady meditative breaths of Helia dulled by the beat of the blades outside, the occasional rumble of a gust of wind. =============================It's a couple hours later when you hear Eshe call back from the front, sounding a lot better than before. Even Aerin's since tried her hand at healing herself, returning some faculty to her arm until she started to get those shakes again. She'll need more time.“We are running empty, taking us lower for landing!”You rise from your seat and peer out of the window, grateful for the moonlight shining down upon the world.Below is nothing but what appears to be sand, cactus and the occasional ugly as sin tree.A desert in the middle of June. Lovely. Just fucking Lovely.> "Eshe no. No. Eshe please, we cannot land here, I don't want to land here. Anywhere but here."> Resign yourself to this fate. "It's going to be a long walk.."> Ask everyone else how they feel about deserts.> (Other)
>>30402731> "Eshe no. No. Eshe please, we cannot land here, I don't want to land here. Anywhere but here."
>>30402731> Resign yourself to this fate. "It's going to be a long walk.."> (Other)Try to drain some water from one of the cacti, to see if we can do it.
>>30402731>> Resign yourself to this fate. "It's going to be a long walk.."We ain't no bitch.
>>30402731> "Eshe no. No. Eshe please, we cannot land here, I don't want to land here. Anywhere but here.">>30402788We are essentially Aquaman and we are in the middle of a desert.
>>30402731Fuck this, we frost bitches.Set up a passive aura of cold that will keep atmospheric moisture from getting all eager to drift away and shit. I'm calling on the beer can effect here. A cold, smooth surface will condense moisture if it's cooler than the surrounding atmosphere. Turn our entire body into that cool-ass surface, then just focus it into our canteen. Infinite water in the desert.
>>30402788gotta have some insecurities
>>30402731>> Resign yourself to this fate. "It's going to be a long walk.."
>>30402845You sly fucker...
>>30402845That doesn't really mean 'infinite water,' just whatever happens to be in the air we walk though so 'not much;' it will help keep us from getting dehydrated though, plus AC? (AC that makes our nerves hot, so kind of counterintuitive, but a little bit of nerve heat would be worth not passing out from heatstroke in the desert)
>>30402845There would be more water in the cacti than in the air of the desert. Desert air is really fuckin dry.
>>30402845Asher doesn't have true Cryokinesis yet. He requires water to make ice.>>30402909Yeah, he'll stay pretty cool.
>>30402731> Resign yourself to this fate. "It's going to be a long walk.."Doesn't Fara have a constant cooling aura? Can't we just keep near her?
>>30402924Then create and maintain a thin layer of ice on our bodies. Noob grade ice armor where the sole purpose is to stay cool enough to allow more water to condense on it as we walk through it. We'll survive and have enough water to kill something in an emergency. Which means more water once we extract the blood~
>>30402941lets not summon her just to keep cool, >>30402845is much better
>>30402960We can't even do that because we don't have cryokinesis.
>>30402946you're getting overly stuck on your condensation idea. We are hydrokinetic, we just can pull any moisture in the air to us physically. The problem is, there is none, because it's the desert. We just need to keep whatever water is on our skin chilled with our power, ice is overkill.
>>30403043yeah, don't let it evaporategood practice plus it keeps us comfortable
>>30402946>>30403043The cactus. We saw one or more of them. We can drain water from that.
You let out a deep sigh as the land approaches the metal bird,”This is going to be a long walk.”The chopper touches down and Eshe comes into the cabin, still bearing her fish-like form.“We are still far from LA, do any of you know where we are?”Helia stands up, stretching a bit from her time sitting down,”We were on a direct route to Vegas, right? I'd be willing to bet we're in the Mojave desert if we've got mountains around us.”“How'd you figure on that?” You ask.Helia shrugs,” I've gone hiking out here before with my ex.” She smiles to herself, thinking back to past days.“It'll be rough without any camel packs, or tents...” She looks to her own skin,”I'm going to be peeling after this.”Eshe takes a seat, squishing her slimy behind into one of the cabin's harnesses,”We'll figure out something with Asher's magic. We'll wear mud if we need to.” She considers something for a moment with those alien eyes blinking.“On second thought,” Eshe smiles with dagger-like teeth,” We could use this time to train you all. Hot Rod needs to complete himself, and the four of you should figure out your own solutions to the heat. It will help you in the future, I am sure.”Hot Rod eyes the rifle he stowed away,”Not sure how much I'm liking the sound of that. What do you expect from us?”“For you to decide for yourself. To change or make the heat no longer matter. Figure it out, but we rest now. I'll need strength to change from this form.”>Anything you'd like to say to anyone?> Ask Helia about what she did before all this.> Try to give Hunter a tip with some kind of mythos.> Sit with Aerin, get to know her a bit better.> Sleep next to Eshe.> Go outside, don't need sleep yet.
>>30403167>> Go outside, don't need sleep yet.
>>30403167>Go outside, don't need sleep yet.
>>30403167>[x] Try to give Hunter a tip with some kind of mythos.Skinwalker. He's already shaping up to be a stealthy hunter type, let's get him full-blown horrorshow stalker.>[x] Go outside, don't need sleep yet.Cactus! We need to do this. Might even unlock plant manipulation as something to learn if we get good enough at extracting water from them and realize that plants are mostly water anyway.
>>30403101yes, draining some cacti is viable, though we need to wonder if it is worth carrying a load of additional water around with us, instead of just conserving our energy. Need to balance having enough for defense given the chance of ambush, versus having to carry it, either via power and incurring strain, or just physically in some kind of container, and being tired from that (maybe a bone would like to carry a fuel container [thoroughly cleaned via magic] that we can load with water, I'm sure they'd like something to drink)>>30403167get to work looking for a container to clean and store water in.
>>30403167> Try to give Hunter a tip with some kind of mythos.I kinda wanna do this, but I can't think of anything specifically.
You unlatch the door and force it open, letting the tepid air of the desert inside as you hop out.“Where are you going?” You hear Helia call after you.“Gonna see what I can do about water. Wanna help?”The woman jumps out of the helicopter, her veins flaring with a bit of power, sending her a bit farther than you'd think normal. She stumbles a bit, acquainting herself with the sand and loose, dry dirt.“We need something to carry the water with...” You look about, and think about exactly what had been within the cabin. Should've thought about this before you jumped out.Your eyes are drawn to the chopper itself. Should be pretty lightweight overall, right? You point to a decent panel.“Bend that into a container, make sure it won't leak from the bottom. I'll worry about evaporation, you just concern yourself with the shape.”“Asher,” She looks to you, the whites of her eyes bearing a subtle silver-white illumination. It's like the moon now that you think of it,”That's a bit big, right? How-”“Hot Rod or Eshe can deal with it. Good training, right?”Satisfied with that answer, the two of you get to work in the moonlit desert bathed with the occasional tinges of the aurora's color. It's quiet work with exception of Helia's part of the labor, tearing and bending the panel into shape with her own hands.
You approach some of the nearest cacti, feeling the presence of water locked away within its body and cell walls.After a few pricks, you make contact with the surface of its flesh. You feel some kind of resistance as you assert your will against the plant-life, yet it gives way quickly as you briefly freeze it to destroy the cell walls, and then pull out pure, clean water from the plant, letting it fill your half-empty water bottle. Moving onto the next, you repeat the process over and over again as you let the waters fall into the sand.When Helia presents the container, you draw the water up from the ground and throw it in, the sand undisturbed.>Unlocked Plant Manipulation for learning!>It's pretty late and you're feeling a bit bleary-eyed...> Sit outside of the chopper with Helia, talk to her.> Get back inside the heli, everyone else must be asleep about now.> (Other)
>>30403575>> Get back inside the heli, everyone else must be asleep about now.Sleepy sleeps
>>30403575>Unlocked Plant Manipulation for learning!Ha ha! I knew it!Now we just need to catch a small animal and try it.> Get back inside the heli, everyone else must be asleep about now.
>>30403575>> Get back inside the heli, everyone else must be asleep about now.Rest for the weary. But don't be a clam; if Helia looks like she's got something on her mind, talk on the way back.
>>30403575Maybe we could tell hunter the Legend of Orion, and how he was such a great huntsman that working with Artemis they might have hunted down all animals on the planet, and that he was killed because he was such a threat?
No votes for talking to Helia while looking at the stars.Well, it was an option.
>>30403665Unless talking to her gives us a LIMIT point, I really don't care about her.
>>30403665I thought we couldn't see the stars due to the aurora.
>>30403680Overs can learn from each other. So it's a possibility.>>30403691It's fainter in some places. You can see them from here.
>>30403659It's Hot Rod now, his tastelessness must not be ignored.>>30403680This anon has no interest in girls, his mind is on the xp. Head in the game!
>>30403701>Overs can learn from each other. So it's a possibility.From Helia of all people though? She is only just now becoming not as much of a useless blubbering bitch.
>>30403729>useless blubbering bitchTo be fair, one of her early scenes had her missing half of her abdomen. If you weren't an Over I'm pretty sure you would be at the point beyond freaking out or just giving up.She can learn from you as well.
>>30403680>>30403701Hmmm, she did seem to learn something about earth. Something most people who didn't take geology don't think about, Ice is considered a mineral, so there is Asher's little avenue.
>>30403767>Opportunity to add Earth to the unlearnedI am now tempted... Alchemy, it calls to me.
>>30403767We'll probably learn Geomancy ourselves whenever. Since we have the potential to learn every element as long as we interact with it enough times.Wondering when we'll learn dark magic or space magic.
>>30403802>implying we won't be able to create a vacuum just from sapping all the air out of a specific area.
>>30403802Then let's just go back outside and shift the sand through our hands a couple of times.
>>30403846...We crocodile now?
>>30403802>space magicI was going to bring this up when dude was talking about lasers. I am way more interested in space. Our connection seems to be Water -> Moon -> Gravity -> Space. Being able to bend space to redirect ranged attacks, partition it and make something (us) completely unreachable. Nice stuff, not to mention the damage you can do with it.
>>30403882Partition.Like a barrier that denies the fact that the space exists and therefore prohibits something from traveling through?Huh. Could also be like opening up a pocket dimension that swallows something.So yeah, why are Bones OP?
>>30403906"Mmmh, space magic nummy."
>>30403906are they?and if they are is it too late to switch?
>>30403906Because up until now, all we'd seen was Bones wrecking shit and Nerves passing out or killing themselves from using their spells or instantly getting killed by other people.Nerves may have the coolest hypotheticals, but bones still have the higher (meaningful) kill count and are still way harder to kill themselves.
>>30403954Oh and all the veins so far are non combatants or fucking useless.
I still don't know what Veins do
>>30403989It really does feel like they were an afterthought.
>>30403989They're basically hybrids that do weird soul things. Soul things are normally maximum bullshit.
You head back inside the chopper, giving the sky one last glance. Helia jumps on inside and you close the door, the thunder of its force rippling through the cabin.“What were you two out there doing?” Hot Rod peers through half-closed eyes, everyone else rather sound asleep.“Just getting water ready for our trip tomorrow.” You glance down at the floor. The chopper's skis or blades would be useful as a ski now that you think of it. Could make hauling the water easier. You'll get to that later though.“Geeze dude, you've gotten pretty serious about all this,” Hot Rod laughs a bit under his breath, shutting his eyes for sleep.You take one of the empty seats near no one in particular,”Just doing what needs to be done.”Helia seats herself next to you, giving you a kind of tired smile with her magic holding the Glasgow shut. Her clothes still bearing the grime of asphalt tar. “You're pretty reliable, you know that?”You frown a little. Not the person you'd necessarily value hearing this from the most but...> “Thanks.”> “You're not doing too bad yourself.”> “You're stronger than you think. Keep working at it.”> Just go to sleep. Long fucking walk tomorrow.
>>30403906well, I would consider that the inelegant way of doing it. My first instinct is to have the space leading towards the PoI lead to the space behind him, etc. Imagine bringing two points of a ribbon together so that moving along it, you no longer reach the middle, but just move directly from point A to point B. Obviously this is great for transport as well, if you are trying to get from A to B, instead of protect the middle.
>>30403989Invoker/Evoker hybrids that use their souls.Also, I've found the types to all be balanced throughout the quests.
>>30404018>> “You're not doing too bad yourself.”Helia is the kind of person who constantly needs to be reassured that she's helpful or else she mentally breaks down.
>>30404018> “You're stronger than you think. Keep working at it.”
>>30404019Ah, misdirection barrier. That's a nice one.>>30404004In my early drafts Veins were actually absurdly powerful. I split Vein powers between Bones and Nerves and then limited the magnitude that veins are capable of.Then Bones got the unique ability of shapeshifting and Nerves got the unique ability of mind control even if the latter is rarer at this point.
>>30403989An explanation with lolis.Bones - Shapeshift to become a loli.Nerves - Summon up a loli harem.Veins - Partition off a chunk or your soul and make a loli tulpa that loves you no matter what.Bones OP pls nerf
>>30404018"Have you thought of what you can do to survive in the desert?"one thing we might need to worry about that I'm not sure Veins or Bones will is food. Are you prepared to bloodbend a scorpion out of hiding and eat that fucker?
>>30404148>Bones OP>Nerves get the haremI don't follow your logic.
>>30404158But Bones ARE the loli. That's every man's dream right there.
>>30404150Yes. We can steam the little shit. Desert Lobster.
>>30404091ugh I gotta go for tonight Dran. Just count me against any oaths for not summoning and for any summoning oaths please.Also if we get a limit point material firma.
>>30404158They feed on the nerve like energy vampires and will stab him in the back at the first opportunity.Also being the little girl > keeping a herd of them
>>30404018>> “You're stronger than you think. Keep working at it.”This is the kind of thing we need to say to her to encourage her to be not useless
I love the backstabbing waifu wars mentallity going on here in posts like >>30404183He hates summoning, so he wants to take any oath in it regardless of whether it will help us or not just to discourage ever taking it to Divine. It's really kinda disgusting.
>>30404183Fuck you faggot. If you're not here, your vote doesn't count.
If upgrading a skill to Divine allowed us to remove one oath from that skill, then I think it would get rid of a lot of the stupid fighting about Oaths.
>>30404419I doubt it.
“Thanks, You're not too bad yourself. Keep working at it.” You close your eye and hear Helia shuffling in her seat, getting comfortable.“I will. World's gotten scary, hasn't it?”“It's always been. We've just ignored it.” You say, letting yourself slip into your dreams...You feel a sparse emptiness around you, occuppied by other radiant figures. You see the interior of the Helicopter as well as you remember it. Blinking red lights now and then against dull areas of metal, subdued textures that are surreal in how they're impressed upon and then in the next moment left completely blank, like an artist that became lazy in filling in the background that would go unnoticed anyway.[Hey Asher, asleep so soon?] A figure in white speaks to you, looking out of the window to a landscape of black. [This place is pretty dry, but I'll try my best here.] At her word, the wind blows in sand through the window. The wind stops once you realize that a window should be there.(What is.. happening?)The figure of white turns back to you. [Oh, you're just dreaming. People see this place sometimes when they dream. The others have told me.](Others? Who?) You ask, moreso demanding an answer.At once, the helicoptor dissolves away, leaving just you and the figure of white.[They come. Though they will speak one at a time to you, Asher.](You haven't answered, who-)The world comes back into focus with a beach. Untouched, unmolested by human play, rolling waves pushing back the sand, and the sun set high in the sky beating down with visible rays.
[She comes] The white figure looks out to the sea, and your eyes follow.In the distance, you see a woman walking upon the water. At first, you think she's human, only to realize that she's far more human than you'd like. You aren't quite sure exactly but as she approaches, she becomes all the more vivid, all the more knowing and then suddenly divine.Standing upon the gentle wash of the waves as they reach onto the beach, she seems at perfect peace with her element, riding them up and down in smooth motions, not daring to recede with their master so close.“Young Child that bears my name. Of the Followers guided by the star of morning. I greet you as the lady that treads upon the birth of sea.”She speaks, and her words echo across this place. The inland trees rustle with her voice, the sea breaks and even the sands hiss with the unbound waves pushing them in and out.> What is happening?> I want to wake up.> I'd like to speak to the other.> (Other)
>>30404525Oh shit it's Lucifer
>>30404537>> I want to wake up.Asher ain't havin' none of this shit
>>30404537> What is happening?>>30404542Nope, it's that Goddess we have a similar name to. Asharra or something.
>>30404576Oh thank God. My mind goes to the extreme sometimes.
>>30404537> What is happening?
>>30404537>> I want to wake up.
>>30404537 > What is happening?
>>30404588I was thinking the same thing with the morning star reference.The morning star, for those who are uneducated, is believed to be Lucifer, since it is a star that hangs low in the sky, or is "fallen".
>>30404537> What is happening?
>>30404537>> What is happening?>>30404542she references Lucifer because of the follower's leader, suseJ.
>>30404559Makes me think of "I need an Adult.">Goddess predating BC>"I am very much an adult, child of the eternal cycle."
>>30404537> (Other)"Bear your name? Asherah?"We're playing a history buff. We should know this shit.
>>30404537Be polite, even in dreams there's no reason to be rude to divine entities. Bow, don't get on our hands and knees or anything, but bow."I greet you as Asher, one who has lost much to earn knowledge.It's an honor to make your acquaintance Asherah, mother of the Gods."
>>30404707Yeah... going with this.
You open your mouth, finding that you too have taken on a form akin to flesh as the radiant white's vanished. You suddenly feel alone as you stand before this amazing creature.“W-what... is happening?” You find that the words escape your mouth as a bead of sweat drips from your brow. As it trickles its way down, you find that you can see through both of your eyes here.The divine woman kneels down upon her waters, still towering over you in varying dimensions.“We are speaking.”Slowly, you nod“Y-yes. Yes we are... Wait, bearing your name?” Something clicks,” You're Lady Asherah?”The divine woman smiles, light like that of the sun through waves beams from her lips,”Indeed Young Child.”Well. Four days ago you were another jackass scrambling between a part time job and college. Three days ago you learned about magic, and right now you're talking to a goddess from the ancient Sumerian beliefs.Right off hand, you recall that she's a mother of other Gods and a consort to many more.You nod your head in some sort of awe as this all sinks in,”Why do you seek me? I could not possibly be worthy of something like this.”You'd also pretty much defined yourself as an athiest or at the very least agnostic.The woman stares down upon you, her pupils like eclipsed suns, her features ever shifting,” Indeed, you are not, Young Child. However you reach for power beyond your growing understanding, and you have a heart as changing as fickle as my own sea.I speak to ask that you show yourself as worthy of my blessings.”
The awe sticks to you,”What would you have of me?”Asherah's unwavering gaze remains locked upon you as she speaks her next words,”I have long been scorned by my last husband, Yahweh, that took a mortal to bear divine child. His followers have long forgotten me. Remind them, and I will whisper you the secrets of life and the sea.”“How do you intend for me to remind them?”Asherah's smiles turn wicked as the seas in the distance turn stormy, the waves increasing in intensity with this island untouched.“You will return their life to my water during their service, speaking of my name and how they have scorned me.”>How do you respond? There is another after this...
>>30404972I need time to consider, as this is no mean thing you ask...but you shall have my answer when I awake, I assure you.
>>30404951>>30404972Uhhh. I'm going to go ahead and say no.
>>30404972I... what? I can't tell if she wants us to preach her greatness or if she wants us to drown dudes in the sea so she can eat their souls.
>>30405020Pretty sure that was both. Specifically Abrahamics though.
>>30404972The fuck? I'm pretty sure Satan itself is nicer than this bitch.
>>30404972I wanna say yes, but not hearing the other is foolish.
>>30404972Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I guess. I'm declining. I might share you name, but I'm not going to be your murderhobo.
>>30405045Try being an ancient goddess that's mothered countless other gods and been married to others with the last being the big G (or YHYW) and being pretty much 100% ignored for over 2000 years after her husband cheated on her with the bastard child praised as a messiah.Yeah- no. A primordial goddess scorned.Consensus seems to generally be no/maybe.
>>30404972"That is doable Lady, though it would attract unwanted attention.How many lives would you require? And how many to spread the tale?"After we get answers to these tell her that we will give her an answer in word or deed when we awake. I expect we'll have more visitors tonight. >>30405020I'm pretty sure she wants us to kill at least one person, I'm alright with that.
>>30404972You truly demand the deaths of the merely ignorant? I might preach for you, even fight your enemies, but most of Yahweh's followers are innocents that know no better.
I show no love to vindictive bitches
>>30405098Oh snap. Guys, I think we should just agree and become her prophet. Our control over water and anytime we are around the ocean could get dangerous.
>>30405118You're forgetting that Asher is a cuntbag magical terrorist.I don't exactly like Asherah, but he wouldn't turn her down for that reason.
>>30405134Not really. Asher is just a guy who wants to survive. Always has been. He's just an asshole.
>>30405134I actually wouldn't mind killing people either even innocents, but so far he hasn't killed anyone but soldiers, so I decided to balk a little at setting out on a holy purge
>>30405128Yeah. I wanna hear the next person first though.There's no way that they're going to be pleasant about this shit. All the gods probably want us to do some sketchy stuff.But maybe they'll be less... divine psycho ex than Asherah
>>30405118Why do you care about them being innocent? Also, we aren't killing them all, she told us to preach of her, this is sending a message, we need survivors who tell other people what happened. We probably won't need to kill more than 5-10 people at most.
The followers are going to know about this whether we agree or not. I don't agree, by the way.
>>30405098Do a number only vote?1 Hell yeah2 No way3 I wanna hear the others first. (but phrase it more politely)
>>30405165Won't all the gods hereafter kinda be her children? Or atleast in cohorts with them.
I really wanna do this. Will pump our water control up crazy good.
Here come the waterfaggots.
>>30405195Not all gods, but lots of the Mesopotamian ones, and I'm betting Ashur wants to talk to us, and he might be one of her exes as well.
>Random Aztec god out of nowhere>He wants us to build him a throne of hearts
>>30405195Depending on which culture you're talking about she has somewhere around 70-80 children. Though not all of these are named, two of the important ones are Hadad, also known as Baal and associated with strength and fertility, and Anath, who is a virgin goddess of war who was the precursor to Athena.
>>30405277Hey, don't forget she's got a deathgod to her name too: Mot. (fun trivia from wikipedia, the word 'mate' like in chess, descends from the same meaning for death)
You snap out of your awe at the incredulity of the task she's presented you. With a quick double-take at what you just heard you kind of shy away from the whole matter, raising your hands in a bit of “hold on.”“So, you want me to -and correct me if I'm wrong- go to a church during service, and drown people while praising your name.”The goddess slowly nods her head,”The one that leads them in ignoring my name. Return them to me, and I shall speak for you if you lack the words.This must be done for my favor, Young Child, you will agree by performing this most sacred of acts to mark my return.Till then, I shall not speak to you.”She looks away, breaking the gaze for the first time. “The other comes. Young Child, please help me be remembered.”Asherah, a mother of gods bows her head to the sands of the beach, bows to you, and the world disappears once more.[Now the other.] The radiant white spins around you before vanishing once more.Scenery falls into place, a fireplace with a ram's head mounted above the mantle, two cushy recliners come into being. Cold presses against your back, chilling you uncomfortably.Beyond the other high-backed recliner, you hear a voice, gentle yet powerful bid you,”Please, have a seat Asher, we have much to speak of.”> Dude, I just want to wake up.> Sit down as you're told.> Remain standing.> (Other)
>>30405376>> Sit down as you're told.No point in being uppity, and I wanna hear what these kooks have to say.
>>30405376> Sit down as you're told.Just... Ugh. Sit I guess.
>>30405358>Mot>>30405376>> Sit down as you're told.
>>30405376> Sit down as you're told.No reason to turn down a perfectly nice seat."You seem to have me at a disadvantage."
I mean, drowning a priest really isn't that much for acquiring power...
>>30405427You really want to be a little bitch, Anon? Following the orders of an irrelevant, vindictive and bitchy goddess? You should be ashamed you even share a similar name to her.
>>30405427>>30405456Eh, if she can grant power, I don't mind drowning a preacher either. I was more hesitant when it seemed like an ongoing quest to drown all Christians/Jews/Muslims.
>>30405456More rendering a service and receiving payment for such.
>>30405478>quest to drown all Christians/Jews/Muslims.Would indeed be a quest in and of itself.>You are a paladin of Asherah.>Drown all those that have forgotten your goddess!
Is there a God/Goddess of summoning? Because that's the one we should be serving.
>>30405506Seriously? You're gonna be one of those faggots?This quest is advertised as having a not good mc. Drowning a preacher isn't a big deal.
>>30405528Yeah, Asher is pretty much of the asshole allignment and is working with terrorists.If San Diego is any example of what's expected from him...
>>30405427My main worry is that drowning a priest while preaching about Ancient Gods tends to garner attention, OverWatch is looking for that sort of thing. We obviously wear a mask, hell we could use illusion to make ourself look like someone completely different. It'll still be worth it, the fact that there are Overeds in the city isn't a big secret, we just don't let it lead back to us.
>>30405522First expert that comes to mind is Solomon, I bet he's important enough to count as Mythos.
>>30405528I'm love asshole MC's, I wouldn't still be here if I didn't. But anyone seriously considering doing what this "goddess" says is an idiot.Starts with drowning a priest. Then it's drown their children. Then it's drown newborn babies in their own baptism. Finally you're sucking dicks for $5 a pop behind an IHOP.
>>30405577>Finally you're sucking dicks for $5 a pop behind an IHOP.Wait, you can get that?
>>30405606Only if you have connections.
>>30405577I guess it depends on what these gods grant us. If it is divine empowerment, then they've got as by the nads, and we have to keep doing their bidding to keep it, but it sounded more like she would teach us, like we learned about Summoning and Illusion from other Nerves (and I'm guessing it would come with the appropriate overed points).
>>30405641Even if she did teach us. She can take it right back the second we deny any one of her wishes.
>>30405665No she can't. You're full of crap.
>implying armchair man is going to have us do wholesome family fun activities
>>30405691A God can't take back something it gave us? Are you retarded?
>>30405577That's one hell of a slippery slope you have there.It's not a big job, and the reward is very much worth it.Sure, she's a bit vindictive, but that vindictiveness is pointed away from us, we remembered her. As long as we show her some respect we should be fine.>>30405665I don't think she can unteach us.
You do as your told, treading forth carefully, especially after that last one. What's it going to be this time?You let yourself sink into the velvety red cushions, already rather warm from the fire. You find that it's actually just the right distance away from the flame to keep you toasty, while the cold is too distant to nip at you.“You appear to have me at a disadvantage...” You look towards your host, searching for a name at once though you shouldn't quite know.One of the logs of the fire-place moves, falling into a bed of embers.The man opposite to you wears a red bathrobe falling low enough to conceal is modesty along with red slippers bearing an odd split at the front. He looks to you with a grin that you'd assign to a kindly uncle with some plans for his nephew.“Yes, it does indeed seem that I do.” Leaning back in his own seat with a clear sense of what's going on. He looks you right in the eye and adjusts again, straightening up a bit.“So, do you want me to drown a priest?” You raise an eyebrow after a moment of silence.The man raises his hand, shaking his head,”No, no, nothing so... Barbaric. Excuse me for calling you hear, but I've taken a keen interest in your personality.” The man gives you a little point and an affable smile, a bit of a twinkle in his eye.“My personality?” You ask, skepticism intensifying,” What do you know about me?”“Why, everything. It's a part of my business. I know that you've been alone for a very long time in your life and that you tend to keep people at a distance. That you've wank yourself into a coma some days thinking about nothing quite in particular.I know that you're absolutely thrilled with this circumstance even in the face of your mounting skepticism despite the fact that you're learning not to doubt anything in this world anymore.”
The man sips at a cup of red wine he hadn't been holding before,”Asher, I know about you. Don't get me wrong though, it's just my business.”You feel your cheeks flushing, the hairs standing at the back of your neck. Everything this man, this... whoever, whatever he is said is true...“Who, are you?”The man flashes you a little bit of a smile, when you realize that you can't quite discern his skin color.“Asher, you already know who I am. You knew as soon as you arrived.”>Asher, who is this?
>>30405749We gonna be all LUCIFER and then it's totally gonna not be...
>>30405749So if you meet me. Have some courtesy. Have some sympathy, and some taste.
>>30405749It's Satan, Lucifer, the Morning Star.>>30405801Ram's head on the mantle.
>>30405749>Not FemCiferYou fucked up.
>>30405857He's whatever you want him to be. You just need to do one thing...
>>30405876It's not going to be something cliche like "your immortal soul" is it?
I like Lucifer better than Asherah.Now, if we can still get the knowledge from her for doing the REMOVE PRIEST job without her becoming a possessive psycho doubtful, then I wouldn't mind doing it as a one time thing while sticking with Lucy.Though Lucifer did call it barbaric, so it's also a matter of whether it would effect dealings with him.All in all, probably not worth it, but something to consider.
Ew he's been watching us masturbate?
>>30405907I don't think she'll go full possessive psycho, she has a grudge that has had 2000 years to build, she's understandably pissed, she's not that crazy.And it is worth asking if these agreements are mutually exclusive, I hope they aren't.
Wait. Why don't we just do BOTH of their requests?
You stare at the man for some time as the fire crackles, trying to see something within his features, the color of his skin changing and seeming the norm every time you refocus on him.There was a name that you had in your mind, but you weren't quite sure of it until now.The name...”Lucifer.” You enunciate every syllable and the man's smile widens.With a simple nod he sips at the red wine once more before setting his glass down upon a table.“Indeed, that is one, though I have many. Satan, Pan, Prometheus, Loki. Aliases, other forms and personas. We're all the same thoughtform when it comes down to our story and what we represent.”He gestures to you, and a filled wine glass appears in your hand.“Despite the stories, I am as lucid as you happen to be at the moment, I may have to thank Asherah for taking the brunt of the surprise out of you.”You calmly begin to sit at the cup until you stop halfway.“Ah, better to be cautious in dealing with me? Healthy skepticism, however I have invited you here as a guest, do drink. The wine possesses no unspoken contract between us.”You set the glass down,”I'd like to hear what this is about first, we'll toast if we happen to agree on anything.”Lucifer chuckles, full of mirth,”Indeed, this is why I'm interested in you Asher. To the point.”The man clears his throat, and looks into the fire-place, the flames reflected in his eyes.
“I'll spare you the tiresome exposition based upon my legends. You are a summoner and I am not so proud as to admit that I am nothing more than that. Existing within the realms of the grand collective human subconscious that keeps your reality moving.” He glances to you, not necessarily looking you directly in the eye.“That is what I am, what the others are, in a sense you are the same, only with flesh and one mind and soul.”“I'm not exactly following this. Why call me here?”“That Asher, is to deal with you. A summoner is valuable to us, and we- valuable to a summoner. You can bring us through the border of human fantasy and reality. We can aid you.”“What's the price?”“The price is negotiable. My fellows are sovereign as am I. However for a show of good faith, I would have you vanquish ignorance, rather, doing as The Followers you've joined do. Teach others magic.”>Anything to say, Asher?
>>30406149And what exactly do you gain out of this. Lord Helel?
>>30406149He wants us to go around gouging eyes and cutting and burning people until they awaken magic.Awesome.Welp, looks like we got a deal, Lucifer.
>>30406149>AsherahWants you to kill an innocent priest. Probably the same one we met during the ceremony before joining Friend.>LuciferWants to eliminate ignorance.One of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the sameDrink the wine, Asher.
>>30406268Well, awakening people like the Followers do probably incurs a lot more casualties than what Asherah asked.
>>30406285We can still do whatever Asherah wants.
>>30406149"That is a price I am willing to pay. Though I will need to be careful in these matters.Any preference on who I enlighten?"So, by teach magic he does mean to enlighten them in the same way that the Followers gave us magic, right?>>30406268Probably not the same guy, how would he have gotten to Vegas before us and then started preaching.And Lucifer isn't asking us the nicest thing either, learning magic scars you.
>>30406268You do realize that saying yes to Lucifer is agreeing to torture tons of people, many of them to death, yeah?I don't really have a problem with either, but Lucifer's deal is far more bloody.
>>30406308Don't be ridiculous, Anon. He wants more people to learn magic and you can't learn the magic if you're dead.
>>30406268Just letting you know that "teaching" magic is the same as torturing them with the whole "Mark of Torment" thing. Not like that matters cause Asher was going to do that anyways.
>>30406300That we can.Hell, we might even be able to do them at the same time.>>30406325May I remind you of San Diego, the place we were just at. There was a lot of teaching magic going on there too.
>>30406340>Hell, we might even be able to do them at the same time.Yep.
>Come back from the mission>Followers learn that we chatted with a Goddess and drank wine with LuciferThis... will be extremely hilarious.
Can we ask Lucifer to hide this encounter from The Followers name magic?
>>30406384Why? The Followers are followers of the antichrist.
>>30406384Wouldn't it give us rep? Or do all summoners get approached by deities in thought form?
Do we get a cool mark?
>>30406363Pretty tnormal amoing the men with glowing eyes, I bet.
>>30406363I doubt we're the only one who chats with deities, it's probably impressive that we've garnered their attention this quickly, but it's not a huge deal.>>30406384Why would we? He wants us to do the exact same thing they do, he is not just an evil demon, he's the one who brought knowledge to humanity, who stole the fire from the gods, who rebelled against an unjust god.He represents pretty much the same thing we're doing.
>>30406396>>30406453>>30406463Sorry I'm new to the Quest. I skimmed over the previous episodes so I'm still a little out of the loop with the Followers
“What do you get out of this?” That's the most important question here, and it's met with a smirk on the man's part.“I'll be frank with you, it's intriguing for me, to see the true limits of human potential. What they're able to do when they're truly pushed to action. Feats of strength, divine inspiration, becoming something more. If knowing about personalities like you is my business, then pushing people to understand who what they're capable of is something that passes the time.”“Curiosity then? I don't really think I'm buying that, but you promise your fellows, knowledge as well?” Your hand idles around the wine-glass flexing and relaxing your fingers around it.“Indeed. Though you'll need to do things for me here and there. Give and take, you needn't even do something as ghoulish as worship me or slaughter cattle in my name. Just relieve people of the ignorance they bear of their own potential.”“You'll need to tell me why one of these days but you know what?” You raise the glass,” You're alright.”“Quite alright yourself, Asher.” He raises his own glass, and as the two of you drink, darkness slips into the room as it slowly falls apart.“Till next time, my friend.”Everything goes does until a shining hand reaches down, that you instinctively take.[Come on Asher, time to awaken.]You rouse, opening up your eye, half-expecting your other to have returned.Everyone else seems to be getting ready this morning, time to start walking....
So, does this eventually lead to mythos like lucy walking the Earth (again)?
>>30406590It think it'll be a long while until Little Lady Lucy offers his/her own services.
>>30406611I actually meant under their own power
>>30406663Oh. I don't know.
>>30406663Hmm, possible. Belief is a powerful force in this world, and I wouldn't be surprised if enough people knowing magic and how it works would erode the border between the world of fantasy and the world of man. It might take a long time for that to happen, but he's patient.
So, Vegas.>Hit the casinos>Summon a tiny floating eye spy >Use it to look at everyone's hands and cheat at poker>Win stacks>Torture some dudes until they unlock magic>Maybe kill a priest but probably not because that's totally evil or something>Find the vacuum woman>?????>Followers love us>Acquire minions from Satan
>>30406802>Also play video games
>>30406802Sounds pretty good, though we should totally kill that random priest.It's a good deal, and lets face it, how can we resist a chance to give a speech to an enraptured crowd.
>>30406802The Christian in me really doesn't want to do that. But I guess if it comes down to it.
>>30406837I agree, it was mostly just a jab at at the guy that keeps going on about how its so awful when Asher wouldn't give a shit and plans to do much worse.
>>30406854Yeah, Gambling is a terrible vice. Cheatin' is pretty bad too.
>>30406882I thought you were joking with the whole "Christian in me" thing. If you were serious, this might not be the quest for you.
>>30406837Do we actually have to kill him? Can't we just lead him into the ocean all like "A god wishes to speak with you" or something. Asher is good at that kind of stuff, right?
>>30406894I can separate fiction from reality, thank you very much. Still doesn't feel right. I'm not going to have a conniption.
Without a proper direction to go, the five of you walk onward to the north. You drag water from plants, squeezing cacti dry while the others eat on what's left. After a few days everyone's sick of Cacti, save from Eshe that's been catching and eating raw lizards and snakes.At night, it's warm enough to abstain from starting a fire. Eshe warns against it anyway, easy to see at night in a desert.You keep yourself cool for the most part, even though you keep burning yourself out after thirty minutes with a grueling hour wait.As the days pass, you get better at maintaining a chilled layer of water against your skin, eventually easing it to two hour periods with just thirty minutes rest as you pace yourself.Hunter lugs his AM rifle on a sleigh of salvaged Helicopter parts along with a bit of ammo and your water reservoir. Everyone starts to build up a pretty bad stink and an irritable attitude around ten days later.Then one morning...Helia's morning meditations are interrupted, as she sits cross-legged in the sand her veins flash blue a few times before maintaining that color... A sapphire blue...? Where have you see-“Hello my friends, how are you doing? It is Friend.” Friend's words from Helia's mouth, lacking his subdued African accent.Eshe seems less surprised,”How are you doing friend?” She grinds away some lizard bones into a powder. For what, you don't want to know.“I am doing well, ah, very very well. Very good things are happening!”You sit next to Helia, looking her in the eye, as your own shock wears off,” Yeah, what's going on?”“Well,” Helia begins,” They seem to be giving up on our cities, no more barricades for us to destoy. I hear from the others that they are withdrawing. Ah, I hope they decide to use nuclear weapons. We could do so much with even one missile.”
>>30406905We have to drown him.
>>30406911>Ah, I hope they decide to use nuclear weapons. We could do so much with even one missile.Damn Friend you hardcore
>>30406905She wants us to drown a priest in front of his congregation. We are to remind them of Asherah, remind them that Yahweh is God of the Sky and Asherah is Goddess of the Water. They have stolen his Consort's Water, they have used it in rituals of rebirth without even a mention of her sacred name. And that for such a theft the price is measured in lives.They will learn.We're going full fucking demagogue on this one. And I look forward to it. >>30406911>Ah, I hope they decide to use nuclear weapons. We could do so much with even one missile.And things like this are part of why I love Friend.
What the hell Friend, you throw a palm to your face wiping it down to just below your nose.“Right, yeah, so...”“Anything else you have for us, Friend?” Eshe speaks politely despite her preoccupation.“Ah, right... Well, I had thought to warn you. They may be drawing up where you are, Las Vegas if they go back that far. Keep on guard, watch the main road, and you know, destroy the ignorance in the people and whatever else we do.Oh. and one more thing, to find Jackie you will need to bring her to you. Do this by... Well. Just make a scene. Hide your faces as well. I feel like a mother or something.”“Well, it's been nice chatting, good to know that you're all well, even if miserable in a desert. Take care now.” Helia goes limp before resuming her meditations.You squeeze your eyes shut in a pain that only someone of the modern world knows. You've all been trying to get to i15 or i40 if you're that south. Now you need to avoid that?You could just about cry...Hot Rod seems to be on edge about something, he keeps checking the landscape with his scope whenever everyone stops to rest. He's been doing that for a while now. At first you just though he was acting cool or something, but now you're just getting fed up with it.“Hey, Hot Rod, what's eating you?” You stomach grumbles in irritation.The kid looks at you, his eyes wide,”Oh, ah, Asher. Just keeping an eye out. Feel like there's something out there watching us or something. Fucking with my head.”You take your own look at the distance shitty desert,”Sand, more sand, oh look! Rocks and quite a bit more sand.” You shake your head,”Hot Rod, if you think the sand is watching us or something...”The kid begins to eye the sand with no small amount of suspicion,”Dude, I don't trust that shit, I don't trust this fucking sand. It's everywhere man, everywhere!”
> Calm down Hunter, offer him some water.> Let him go prowl around if it makes him feel better. Crazy away from everyone else would be nive too.> "You know what, that sand is pretty damn suspicious. I don't like it."> (Other)
>>30407067He has a point, and we can make scouts with summoning. It'll suck since we can't charge one up while cooling ourself down, but it's worth getting an eye in the sky, and there's actually a surprising number of birds in the desert so it won't even seem out of place.
>>30407081>> Let him go prowl around if it makes him feel better. Crazy away from everyone else would be nive too.
>>30407067>Oh. and one more thing, to find Jackie you will need to bring her to you. Do this by... Well. Just make a scene.We could do this by drowning the priest.2 birds, 1 stone.
>>30406975Well, someone got the reasoning behind it.
>>30407081> Let him go prowl around if it makes him feel better. Crazy away from everyone else would be nive too.He's a hunter, he's named after Nimrod, I say trust his instincts on this one. If there is someone fucking with us I'd like to know about it.Tell him to be careful, and tell him we'll get a bird or two up in the air to take a look around as well. We have to major options, we can try for Huginn and Muginn, who would definitely make good scouts though it would draw Odin's attention. Or we could thoughtform it.I'm personally leaning towards Mythos, I'd rather not try to reinvent the wheel when we've got perfect examples for this already.
>>30407081I'm wondering what he could be sensing that Eshe wouldn't.I mean, I feel that he might actually be on to something what with the whole hunter motif he has going, but I can't help but wonder.>[x] Let him go prowl around if it makes him feel better. Crazy away from everyone else would be nive too.>[x] "You know what, that sand is pretty damn suspicious. I don't like it.">[x] (Other)Send the raven scout? I dunno maybe.
>>30407109My thoughts exactly. It shouldn't be too hard to convince our companions either.>>30407110I do my best. Fuckers stole her purification rite. Interestingly enough one of her favored animals was the Dove, and those feature prominently in baptisms, though I admit that might be a bit of a stretch.
>>30407128>>30407156Charge up the raven and send it with him?
>>30407081"Do we have any way of confirming that besides springing an ambush? I can get a bird's eye view, but They could be dug in, or worse if they're more of those government spooks.">>30407109I already wanted to end by saying they are free to go, but any who would like to know the truth blahblah, turn it into a a primer on magic and offer enlightenment. 3 birds, 1 stone.>>30407128>I'm personally leaning towards Mythos, I'd rather not try to reinvent the wheel when we've got perfect examples for this already.I had the feeling scouts and decoys should be thoughtform, since they are likely to get popped by a stray bullet, and we don't need mythos beings getting upset about that, plus they are simple, so they don't need the mythos benefits or much investment in the thoughtform.
>>30407223>I already wanted to end by saying they are free to go, but any who would like to know the truth blahblah, turn it into a a primer on magic and offer enlightenment. 3 birds, 1 stone.Smart.
Man we are just knocking all kinds of shit off the list at once.I like it. I like it a lot.
>>30407081>>30407156 Here.I think I'd like to change it to suggesting sending the raven first like >>30407223 said.
>>30407223We should probably ask Eshe about the specifics of how awakening people's magic works. We might have to main a few people in the audience in order to fulfill what Satan wants, but it should be doable, and let's face it, drowning a priest is a great opener.
“Go prowl around then and check it out to your heart's content. I'll keep watch my own way. Come back at night.”“Alright!” Hot Rod runs off, increasing his speed to a breakneck pace as Eshe's taught him out here. Likely he'll switch back to heat resistance or whatever once he's done generating distance.Drawing from your mobile water-spring you form up a pair of ravens and send them into the sky, linking your awareness to theirs with the simple instruction of reporting any suspicious people in the area. You charge up the pair rather easily and they start to spit simple words back at you, draining nothing else from you as the waking continues.You ask Eshe about Hot Rod's paranoia,”Wouldn't you sense someone before him? You've got more experience, right?”Eshe shakes her head,”I am not a hunter. I'm a swimmer, and I cast lightning from my fingers.” She snaps, an arc running from her index to thumb for a moment. “A warrior of sorts, but I'm better at moving. He is a hunter, he is more sensitive than even I. You are wise to humor him.”The rest of the day passes without issue as Hot Rod returns in the evening. He's more certain now, there are people out here with the rest of you.“We need a trap or something that'll make them come in. How about I bury my rifle and run off without it tomorrow while the rest of you go on ahead, and... Asher, and Eshe pretend to be sick?”You meet eye with Eshe at once, before looking back to Hot Rod. Kid's got a plan at least.> Sounds great.> Sure, but...(Ammend a detail)> Screw it, lets just hurry up. Sooner we get out of here the better.> (Other)
>>30407331Emotional or mental trauma can do it as well as physical can do it.So if any of them really like the priest, watching him die might be enough right there.Omar in the first quest awakened from seeing his mom killed in front of him.I still wanna know what the deal was with her powers. She was exploding cars from the second she got her magic. And that was while being shot at.
>>30407361Nerve. Chained reaction+combustion. She instinctively replicated the combustion of gunpowder within her gun on the gas-tank of the cars she shot with the bullet as a medium.As for trauma, The Followers employ multiple. They like to show you something you can't possibly believe and then seal the deal by maiming you. I.E. Super-tidal wave and then popping your eye like a damn grape.
>>30407355>> Sounds great.>>30407388We can gouge out peoples noses.
>>30407355It's a solid plan, we draw them out some and he can hunt them down.Can Helia manipulate the sand with her Animist schtick? That could be useful for hiding, setting up pit traps, burying enemies, and so on and so forth.I'd rather the confrontation be at night, easier to maintain ice for stable illusions and the like then.
>>30407355> Sure, but...(Ammend a detail)Burying the rifle I'm not so keen on.Now I'll admit to not being very /k/, but wouldn't that fuck it up? It seems like that would fuck up the gun.>>30407388Well, I'm thinking that watching us drown their priest by hydrokinesis-ing water over his head in an orb and then maybe burning them or something would probably do it.
>>30407413Oh, and I want to have the ravens high high up keeping watch so that we can summon Fara on top of whoever it is and fuck em up should we need to the second we see them.
>>30407388>They like to show you something you can't possibly believeOh, well that's fine, I wanted to walk in with a wave of water that moved like a berth that come before the ship, as a wall of water that keeps people away from us, then wash some up into a solid box of water that immobilizes and asphyxiates the priest (a properly applied choke puts you out in about 10 seconds, then he'll quit panicking a breath deep).
>>30407413>Now I'll admit to not being very /k/, but wouldn't that fuck it up?Depends on the gun
>>30407413We'll definitely want some theatrics for this. I say get Oath of the Sculptor, spend some time beforehand getting water where we need it beforehand, and then freezing the exits when we make our entrance. Have one of our Bones hold the priest up in front of the congregation as we force water we manipulate from the baptism thingy down his throat and let him drown in front of his flock as we preach to them. Also, we should be able to maim people for awakening with Water we make solid with Materia Firma.
>>30407471>Also, we should be able to maim people for awakening with Water we make solid with Materia Firma.Yep. Or steam burns. Steam burns seem efficient.
I want to throw a water balloon full of boiling hot water at his face
>>30407471Too bad people voted down Oath of the Sculptor because they didn't understand how oaths work / were vindictive over it.
>>30407510I seriously hope we take it soon.Ice is best as a defensive option. It can make structures from Ice, and at higher levels will let us just stop things coming at us midair and all sorts of other useful stuff. Also, Ice is associated with the dead so we'll probably get some necromancy off to make distractions, unnerve the fuck out of people by raising their friends, use them as undead shields, or to ask them questions. Stillness is a very powerful concept, and seems best suited for defensive purposes as well as setting up enemies for bigger attacks.
>>30407578>Also, Ice is associated with the dead so we'll probably get some necromancyAlright, fuck off.
>>30407578>Also, Ice is associated with the dead so we'll probably get some necromancy>Shit I made up By Anon.
“I'll have Fara take the gun to you underground to avoid sand getting in it. I'll need her back as soon as possible however for when we begin the ambush.”Hot Rod agrees that it sounds like a good idea. Aerin nods, rolling her shoulder now that she's had enough time to restore her arm. Helia nods, the sand pulling around her as she 'flexes' her power.Eshe's the only one left, eyes on her. She smirks at the group,”Why not, if anything it will take our minds off of the heat.”The next day, Hot Rod separates, your ravens are in the sky, keeping watch, Helia delivers the rifle safely so that the kid can set up.Midday, you begin to let yourself look s bit wobbly before falling. Eshe shortly after you, “halting” the progress of your party as you're cared for.It takes some time, but you eventually hear a shot ring out, Aerin deflecting the brunt of it with it leaving a gash across her face. Sand moves to Helia's defense, pouring from beneath her clothes and hardening against her flesh to bear with similar force.You suddenly realize your vulnerability as you rise up, drawing water before you as another shot rings out. You bring up a shield of water, too late to freeze it into ice, and yet... you're alright. Your nerves burn, but the wall of water you canned uo seems to have a visible gash in it and an absurd lack of flowing at all.The shots came from three different directions now obscured by the pickup of a gale, tossing up dirt and sand in equal amounts.“Definitely people out there... Aerin whistles as she touches her cheek, facing the intrusion,It's a fight!>End Thread>Till next time on OverHuman!>Expect it to be Sunday 20:00 server!
>>30407601Damn, this is getting good. Can't wait to see more of Lucifer. I enjoyed his character.Thanks Dran.
>>30407598Chill of death and the underworld and such. It's underworld stuff based on Hel's domain of Niflheim in part. Definitely associated.Though Shades are the closest to soul-based necromancy while it could be possible to raise skeletons and corpses through other means.
Comments, questions, concerns while I'm still partially lucid, just not enough to write?Saying it now as well, the deity offers are pretty much entry level deals. They prefer notable characters and they're giving Asher the guidance to become notable.Deities speaking to Overs isn't necessarily uncommon either. They could speak to 10,000 people at once if need be due to the nature of what they are. Dip a hand in everyone's box and you're likely to get something in return.
>>30407647How many pies did Lucifer stick his fingers in? I'd like to think that we're special.
>>30407647Do they give much of a fuck about double dipping? Or is that something that varies from deity to deity?Also, I guess we're going oathless. I thought we were gonna get the Sculptor, but looks like too many new people joined that just didn't like it for some reason.
>>30407674>Everyone who doesn't want to limit ourselves is a fucking new faggot who don't know shit
>>30407685Seeing as after a ton of discussion it was more or less agreed upon right before more people started joining, yeah. I would say that that is mostly the case.
>>30407667 Well, I'll have you know that he and Susej are not one in the same.>>30407674Varies. Exactly what would you call double dipping in this case?
>>30407698>Exactly what would you call double dipping in this case?Killing the priest and using the spectacle to attempt to awaken people, thus attempting to get boons from both Lucifer and Asherah.
>>30407697I remember brainstorming and inventing new oaths but that's it. And I was here from the very beginning.
>>30407601Looking forward to next time.Hopefully now that the enemies have exposed themselves Hot Rod can hunt them down and murderize them. Also, if our Ravens can locate any of them we can drop Fara on them, have her carve them up. She said she wanted to kill for us, now she has a chance. >>30407647How long can Fara operate independently, in a combat scenario not just lounging around, without needing us to give her more magic? Has she expressed any opinions about our traveling companions positive or negative?Will Asherah and Lucifer really care that we're working for both of them at the same time? None of their goals really seem opposed to each other.>>30407674The price we pay for fame.>>30407685It's adding a restriction to something in order to use it more effectively for the stuff we actually care about it doing. Do you seriously not understand how much more power an Oath gives you?
>>30407704Asherah might not like it, but I doubt Lucifer cares seeing he represents rebellion from forms of control.
>>30407716We can probably placate her. Tell her that her reminder will spread further if told alongside tales of magic returning. The new mages born from this "baptism" will serve as living proof of her influence in the world.
>>30407704Lucifer would have said something if he had serious concerns about service to Asherah he would have been more vocal.>>30407709With 3rd Grade, she's pretty much a functioning combatant, so long as it's not dragged out or she uses her materialized for conservatively, she should have power to spare even after it's done.She's ambivalent about Hot Rod, Doesn't like the way Helia looks at you, doesn't see Aerin as a threat, and thinks Eshe is a good guardian.Asherah may be more obstinate if her goals directly conflicted with Lucifer's. She wants a holy man ritualistically killed to mark her comeback. THat may change in the future, yet for now they are very parallel.
>>30407752If we decided to stop working for Asherah, would she be able to directly rip any knowledge she gave us right out of our head?
>>30407767I really don't see how she couldn't. Not a lot that a God CAN'T do.
>>30407770We don't really know what they can or can't do in this setting. They seem to have trouble interacting with things in the real world.For all we know, the worst she could do is send people to kill us after dream visiting them. Still really bad, but not nearly as bad.
>>30407770Secrets given are not so easily taken back, and I doubt that she can influence what we know so easily, especially considering we exist in different worlds.We can communicate, we can call things over, but I sincerely doubt she can make us not know things.There are lots of things gods can't do, they aren't omnipotent, not does everything fall into their domain.
>>30407770They are myths and legends that only exist as part of the collective unconscious and are given power through mages that choose to invoke them. They are not Gods. We are.
>>30407797Shut up fag.
>>30407752Would the sculptor still allow us to form ice armour and ice barriers?
>>30407808YES. It is designed to encourage that. It only prevents us from making ice weapons.
>>30407814...Is that oath still on the table?
Who the fuck needs ice weapons when we can get a gun
>>30407797That's actually exactly what this setting is about.>>30407767Depends on your interactions with her and whether the break is good or bad.>>30407808So long as the Ice is molded without intent to use it to harm anything. You can still encase someone in ice, you just can't skewer them with it.
>>30407808Yep>>30401776>Oath of the Sculptor: You may not use ice to create weapons however all other constructs are fair game so long as they are not made with the intention to inflict harm.
>>30407799Wow>>30407820>That's actually exactly what this setting is about.
>>30407797Well yes, that is pretty much true.But it's probably best not to talk that way in front of Asherah, I don't think it'd go over well. >>30407808Yes, yes it would.It pretty much prevents us from making things too pointy or making weapons. We can still make barriers, shapes, restraints, chairs, doppelgangers. When we level it up we can still halt kinetic or thermal energy on objects, we can still place things and people in stasis, and most of the other important stuff that Ice gives us. We don't kill people with Ice, we just use it to trap them, and them stab them with Water, or have a Summon rip out their throat.
>>30407832I never said you were wrong.
>>30407820If we encased someone in ice and that caused them to get hurt from frostbite or hypothermia or whatever, would that break the oath?
>>30407832>>30407839I knew he was going to be mistaken for me.I just laughed and restarted the GotG trailer again.
Can we get a revote on taking the sculptor oath?
>>30407860Next thread. Dran is probably ready to collapse.
>>30407860It'll probably get put off until next thread, since Dran wants to write it in the narrative when it happens. Though I wouldn't mind doing it now.
>>30407864>>30407875I'm fine with this. Can oaths be taken at anytime? Hopefully we can quickly make it before we get shot at again.
>>30407845You could theoretically adjust the temperature of the ice to prevent that, so yes.>>30407838>But it's probably best not to talk that way in front of Asherah, I don't think it'd go over well.Only bring it up to the better adjusted deities. Lucifer brought that up pretty quick.
>>30407891Lucifer best girl. Can't wait for more interactions.
>>30407891What exactly would Florakinesis do?Like, if we were in the jungle could we make vine choke people? Or out in the desert here, could we make cactuses fly at people?
Yes, and yes. Higher ranks would denote more control and ability to alter growth and eventually use the ideas of certain plants. Could also be useful for rituals or spell reagants that require things like mistletoe, holly, or some sort of sap.Higher levels would basically allow you to poison Ivy a building. In any case it's there, but not quite as versatile and dangerous as you might like. Subtle though.
>>30407875I'd like that too, making Water solid with Materia Firma is an ongoing effect which means the burn will add up, making the ice wall means it'll last until it breaks or melts.
>>30407891So he only wants us to collect magic users in the hope of more summoners and then generating himself into reality! Sly bastard.
>>30407950>Higher levels would basically allow you to poison Ivy a building.Just making sure I understand this correctly; at higher levels of Florakinesis, we could evoke the concept of poison ivy and inflict it upon a building, resulting in anyone that enters said building having the poison ivy inflicted upon them?That's fucking metal. It makes me think that maybe we could make a cantrip of Hydrokinesis + Materia Firma + Florakinesis to create a giant poisonous mist of nightshade or something.
>>30407977I meant like Batman's poison Ivy, but that's also a possibility. Nerves are masters of ambient reality.
>>30407977I don't see why that couldn't be done with just florakinesis and the proper plant. Just keep a cloud of poisonous pollen or whatever around.
>>30407985There's no way in hell I want to take Florakinesis to Divine rank, but it sounds cool as hell.So I wouldn't mind putting an Oath on it.>Oath of the Gardener: Whenever enter a new area, you will devote some energy to the well being of the plants.
>>30407985Could we alter a bunch of apples to put tracking beacons on people that embed themselves in their intestinal lining, letting us track them wherever they are?
>>30408031That sounds really fucked up and really awesome.We could take it a step further and make it so that if they eat the magic apples they get explosive seed things all in them that Asher can detonate at will.Apple killswitch.
>>30408069>>30408031Yes. Keep giving me npc ideas.
>>30408114Little kid on the path of blood. Their tulpa is a copy of their mom/dad that the Followers killed right in front of em trying to awaken them.
>>30408186I'd personally go for dead brother or sister, it'd make it creepier.
>>30408194I wasn't going for creepy so much as feelzy, but if you want creepy then brother sister combo, then just rip off the twins from Black Lagoon right down to the incestuous blood orgy.Exploited kid being forced to do CP awakens on the first day of the aurora and makes a tulpa of their dead brother / sister. And then they go on a murder spree.
>>30408114You know the old game "The floor is lava"? Some nerve that makes it more or less a reality.Well, the floor doesn't look like lava. But stepping on it will produce more or less the same results.
>>30408114I bet a Vein could pull off becoming something like a gargoyle from Gargoyle Quest.
>>30408114Imagine a Bone that decided to invoke the legends of as many people-eating monsters, like vampires and wendigos and such, at the same time as they could and then topped it off with Gluttony itself. That would be fuckin scary. And a miracle that they didn't die, but still. Scary.
>>30408348>Bones eat Nerve magic>Implications
And I gotta sleep. If you pop back in before the thread 404s, an estimate for the next AoPH would be cool