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Arland Summit Summary: Goals, Objectives, and Major Characters (thanks to Sorry for helping me and the players out!):

http://pastebin.com/FsP2C5Hr
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Recent Events Summary:

You pursued Matthel into the bowels of the cathedral, and managed to subdue him. However, you let your guard down, and he used the opportunity to warn Metatron to release the sigil's anchor and move it to safety.

Arcturis, Hemmelus, and yourself entered the sigil cavern to stop Metatron. A prolonged battle forced Metatron to activate his most powerful spell, which, while killing him, managed to hold you off long enough to transport the sigil to safety.

You're now regrouping with your allies, and Arcturis, who has all but comitted himself to your alliance. With Sandalphon scheduled to arrive the next morning, however, he worries that you have no advantages - and now that the fourth demon lord has been summoned, you need every friend you can get.

You've consulted with Adavan, who managed to steal the final key to Hecate's seal during the battle against Metatron. You've agreed to free Hecate, after discussing the plan with your inner circle - Donovan, Auriel, Abigail, and Ila.

You then brought together Auriel and Fang, who agreed that it was the time to contact the Black Lady. But when you called, she didn't answer.

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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/UBdTaB14

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/JjjiRx6u

Buy Magic Power 5

So when are we healing Dave?

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Current Statistics:

HP: 64/81
Mana: 8/58
EXP: 35

Shards of Order and Chaos:

(Retribution) - Strong
(Maker) - Normal
(Silence) - Strong
(Peace) - Strong
(Breeze) - Normal
(Hammer) - Broken
(Ardor) - Strong
{Resolve} - Weak
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Vita (Shade)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Aurora Water Gem (pocket)
Shade (pocket)

--Teleport Anchor--

Haven - Inner Fortress

--Current Location--

Dobshire

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Known Mana Pools:

Jacob's Field - entrance to Hecate's tomb - Spirit
Palthair Mines - Magnock's Lair - Spirit
Archon - Spirit District - Spirit
Archon - Shadow District - Shadow
Archon - Earth District - Earth
Archon - Water Distric - Water
Haven - Shadow
Abbotsford - Shadow
Aurora - Water
Va'ad - South Generator - Earth
Va'ad - North Generator - Earth

>>30357096
Seconding.

Honestly, while Chosening Abby is nice, I have a feeling this is a VERY noticeable thing and people will know something is fucking up if we do it now. I have a feeling we're going to need the max Mana + regen more.

When are we doing that artifact hand thing for Abby?

Now might not be the best time but that shit needs to be done here eventually.

>Last time...

"...Auriel?"

The angel looks at you, Fang, and then shrugs. "Might as well get on with the meet and greet. The bag of bones is right."

"I resent that."

"Oh no, I've earned Yi Fang's ire," Auriel says. "Whatever shall I do?"

"If you weren't on my side, I'd make you regret those smarmy comments."

"Probably upset your niece, too," Auriel says. "Looks like you've been de-fanged."

"Don't make me start joking about wings, now." Fang turns to the wall. "Alright."

He pulses power into the cylinder. The blank screen flickers up onto the wall, a thin sheen of mana.

You wait.

And wait.

"...I assume," Auriel says, "that something is suppose to happen at this point?"

Fang puts the cylinder back into his robes. "She's not answering. Perhaps she's busy."

"Even the rulers of the world have to use the lavatory."

The comment almost makes you smile. Almost. "...earlier, when I was in the sigil room. Sandalphon mentioned something about her - that she'd been 'managed'. I'm a little worried."

"I'm not," Fang says. "So she's a little tied up. There's nothing he could do short of killing her that would stop her for long."

"...maybe you're right."

>con't

>>30357096
I'm thinking we Chosen Abby and lla.

Where's the Anon who screencapped SMs post last night saying that Chosening Abby would really help her?

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>>30357123
Yo

>>30357150
muh mp5

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>>30357150
Oh and the super perks that are completion bonuses? Those transfer with Tree Gift.

>>30357150
I want the Titan.

>>30357150
>survivability

We also have like the world's shittiest natural Light resistance, right when the guy who is king of Light (currently) is coming here and might flip his shit. She will inherit our shitty (and good) resistances when we Chosen her.

Now is probably not the best time.

I'm for using Chosen on abby then spending/saving the rest for tree gift.

>>30357195
>Her resistances are higher now
You're kidding, right?

>>30357118
I might support this over Chosening Abby at this time. Or maybe even both.

It's 5 less XP and Artifacts are powerful in their own right.

>>30357123
>>30357150
SM saying he would be in favor of a certain thing isn't necessarily hard evidence in favor of a thing being the most effective use of our resources, y'know.

I would also be in favor of Chosening, but also like to play devil's advocate.

>>30357195
Unless we purchase Mirrored Resistances, I'm pretty sure she would just maintain the current bonuses/penalties that she carries over from being a Servant.

>>30357216
>normal mortal with slight opposite affinity
>ungodly shadow lord whose literal opposite is light

Yeah Jim I'm going with my guns here.

>>30357150
based

And anybody else supporting that we say fuck all this side magic shit and focus on our Shadow magic? Cause, you know, we're kinda the lord of Shadow.

wait, if we gave Abby the shadow tree gift couldn't she just use replicate to make herself a new hand?

>>30357263
Wrong Shadow Tree.

>>30357261
I want MP5 so we can actually use MORE shadow magic shit. Dark Blizzard is fucking tasty and I want Eclipse to make it the "Death AoE wombo combo"

>>30357195
>>30357242
Check out how Chosen works again.

>Chosen gain greater inherent physical and magical bonuses than Servants. You can have a maximum of 3 Chosen.
>Mirrored Resistance - Chosen perfectly share your resistances and weaknesses.

We don't have MR yet. Even if it would drop her resistances in some elements lower, we don't have it. And Chosen itself bumps up the base stats.

It's a complete improvement.

>>30357263
Replicate duplicates appearances; I'm pretty sure we're only able to duplicate form as well because of the baseline skill Amorphous.

That, and that's the PHYSICAL shadow tree.

>>30357263
You are all of my lols anon, all of 'em.

>>30357261
Totally. As long as MP5 is included in that.

>>30357288
Oh.

Well now I feel retarded. Forgive my ability to not observe, though I would still prefer MP5 at this immediate juncture.

Why are people forgetting the Artifact hand thing we already agreed to do?

It's less XP to make an Artifact than to Chosen Abby and it gives her some extra power too.

>>30357263
Ehh. Giving Abby Earth has much better overall and long term bonuses.

You return to the rest of the group in the cathedral, but before you begin the conversation anew, the wood doors burst open.

Gerald, Harvan, and the lords Imil Anderson and Prule Waterford are rushing inside.

"Father!" Gerald says. "What in the 8 elements is going on?! The cathedral looks like it's about to collapse!"

Steward's metallic voice is the first to answer. "The structure has been stabilized. Repairs will be completed in four hours."

"I owe you one, tin can," Arcturis says. "Where are you from, anyway?"

"Va'ad is located in the Timorian Deep, but its exact location is classified."

Arcturis shrugs. "If you say so."

"Father!"

"And that magic," Lord Anderson says. "I'm not too talented, but even I felt that. The mages say...it's the fourth."

"Right." Arcturis sighs and turns to Gerald, and the others. "I'll explain what's going on."

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"...then...in essence, Sandalphon would have killed Donovan?" Gerald asks. "To summon...Hyperion."

"That's the long and the short of it." Arcturis rubs the back of his head. "You can ask the mages around us. You can't find better minds anywhere. They all agree it's crazy, especially with the shell of the core so unstable, and with demon running around...hell, even if it didn't take Donovan's life to do it, it's still a bad time to try and revive elementals."

"Do you have proof of all these accusations?" Waterford asks. "The angels will be here tomorrow! How do you expect us to receive them?"

"...I've made my decision," Arcturis said. "Metatron is dead. Some of his blood is on my hands. Arland has already slapped the Ring City away. We are joining the alliance."

>con't

"Madness!"

"Father," Gerald says, "we should reconsider. Sandalphon may still be reasonable. He doesn't have to know you participated in that battle."

"Then what, I throw Hemmelus under the rug?"

"Not Hemmelus," Gerald says. His eyes flick to you.

"I hope you aren't suggesting what you think you are," Donovan says.

"John saved my life in that fight," Arcturis says. "The last thing I want to do is trade a man like that for a madman that thinks nothing of sacrificing one of my own sons to the Nether! Screw your head back on straight, boy, before I do it for you!"

Gerald raises his palms. "I understand. Forget I brought it up."

"Hmph. Well...when he arrives, we'll see what he has to say. In the meantime, Donovan, you need a safe place to be."

"...true." He looks at you.

"You're thinking what I'm thinking," you say.

"Yeah."

"What am I missing?" Arcturis asks.

>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
>just say you have a safe place to hide Donovan
>some other strategy
>note: assuming you're going ahead with hiding Donovan on the Nemesis, Ila will go tell the spirit mages to contact home and bring the airship - and Haven - to Dobshire. These orders aren't set and stone and can be altered with suggestions.

>>30357330
It won't really do much for her power. Might have some nifty gadgets and a minor boost to her shadow spells, but she's Spirit based anyway.

We shouldn't really do this NOW anyway. we should probably get MP5 (as much as I love Heartstone Titan) and save that stuff for after Sandalthong leaves.

>>30357362
aww yiss

>>30357330
Mostly because we know more about what making a Chosen entails versus trying to create another Artifact, and there's no way we're not making Abby a Chosen at some point anyway so the downside of burning one of our three unreplenishable Chosen slots is far more reasonable than burning one of our two remaining uses of Artifact.

Something to consider
>Purity of Order (passive bonus)
>- All allies that Shadow is in physical contact with share his invulnerability to ailments. Servants and higher ranks always have this, regardless of Shadow's presence.

>Servants and higher ranks
Looks like there's something higher than Chosen. Which makes sense, since Dave has displayed far more power than could be gained from the magic trees only. I bet the highest one will let us tree gift not-magic trees.

Imagine. Buff Abby with our physical skills

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
This is the best time.

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis

We need to reveal at least ONE trump card.

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis

>>30357362
And people actually considered letting Arcturis die, wow.

>>30357386
>>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
I say we do it and bring Haven here.

>>30357408
Since there can only be three Chosen, maybe there's only one of the next tier
As a side note, is maximum number of servants related to magical power or not?

>>30357408
I bet the third level is called Avatar or something. It makes sense.

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
We need to reveal SOMETHING here to get momentum back.

We also need to talk to the others about Hecate later.

>>30357428
No one really told me last time, who is Arcturis anyways?

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
He's already on our side, and this reveal is a good way to assuage the concerns of the rest of the nobles here.

>>30357408
Servant
Chosen
Avatar

>>30357428
Arcturis is best bro

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis

>>30357451
When did Hectate turn into Hecate?

>>30357386
>>just say you have a safe place to hide Donovan
>>some other strategy
Pick him up and fly him to Haven. That will be FAR better than having Nemesis here when Sandalphon comes.

>>30357408
>Servants and higher ranks
>Looks like there's something higher than Chosen

FUCK I SLIPPED UP

NUUUUUUUUUU MUH SURPRISE FACTOR

>>30357386
Gerald is still against us by the way. If Arcturis is to fall in battle then Gerald will immediately try to take control and ditch us.

>>30357491
SM Plz. You slipped up before on this same subject and I never mentioned it. I can't remember exactly where, but you implied it accidentally a couple dozen threads ago.

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>>30357491

>>30357491
The entire ability tree shadow ratio that surrounds the servant and chosen blotches pretty much makes it obvious anyways.

>>30357491
It's Avatar isn't it?

>>30357386
>>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
If Sandalphon loses his wits again and tries to initiate another damage-control Sun Call on Arland, having the Nemesis around for backup couldn't hurt.

Unless we're not willing to risk keeping the secret simply with the magical stealth and are just ferrying Flint off somewhere to hide while we're staying around.

>>30357491
I mean, there's a big, symmetrically oriented white mystery zone hiding adjacent to Chosen and Servant; it wasn't THAT much of a stretch.

>>30357491
We've known for a while, we were just being polite.

>>30357459

Arcturis is the Lord of Arland (basically the king). He's gruff, impatient, and he hates Yi Fang, and he was terribly hard on Donovan when he was younger, openly considering him the runt of the family. He keeps Arland's best interests at the forefront of his mind.

He's a good person at his core, but isn't above discarding useless things and shitting on people he doesn't like. He places more stock in action than words.

>>30357532
>>30357491
Light tree confirmed.

>>30357386
>>just say you have a safe place to hide Donovan
I think its not wise to let everyone know this. His place should be kept from even his brothers, *especially* his brothers.

>>30357459
Stop yanking my leg, mate.

>>30357527
>It's Avatar isn't it?

Nope, at least I have that.

>>30357567
I wonder what unlocks it.....

>>30357544
We're moving the airship.

Knowing he's in an airship isn't going to help them know where he's at. Especially if we take the thing to Xile.

>>30357386
>reveal your possession of the Nemesis
To Arcturius. Using <telepathy> to say we have the Nemesis and can move it and Donovan to Xile if need be.

>just say you have a safe place to hide Donovan
Out loud, say that we have a safe place to hide him.

>>30357539
>He's a good person at his core, but isn't above discarding useless things and shitting on people he doesn't like. He places more stock in action than words.

So he's the anti-hero version of us, but as a leader who enjoys snark. I get it now, thank you SM.

>>30357544
Telling them about the ship doesn't necessarily have to entail telling them where the ship is going to be.

>>30357386

Ok, going with reveal the Nemesis.

>>30357577
Completeted Chosen tree.

Why don't you think we got a Tree completion bonus from Servant?

>>30357544
Harvan would never touch Donny.

Gerald is above outright betraying us, he seems a bit to cautious, he'll probably try to sieze power when Arcturis dies.

>>30357577
Probably making a Chosen and/or buying all the upgrades for Chosen.

>>30357578
Still, it's a whole a lot more knowledge about where Flint is than we would like them to know.

>>30357606
It's a fucking stealth ship. They aren't going to just find it.

Anyone else waiting for Arcturis or Hemmelus to notice the fact that John Nyx can use all 4 of the lesser Elements?

Cause that's some significant shit right there.

>>30357606
Ehh, The Nemesis is best utilized in conjunction with other Airships anyway due to it being a carrier class. It has no weapons of its own.

>>30357604
>he'll probably try to sieze power when Arcturis dies.
>he'll probably try to sieze power
>try to sieze power
>sieze power
He's the heir to the throne, mate

>>30357567
I'm betting Dave isn't just a Chosen, he's whatever the third level is and holding back a small portion of our total power. Even if we unlock the ability to make another, we're probably going to have to kill him to free up the ability to use.

I'm on to you SM. YOU CAN'T STOP ME!

>>30357601
Because Servant, Chosen, and [Bigger Thing] are all technically part of the same tree?

>>30357634
Yeah... We used all 4 right in front of Hemmy. No way he didn't catch that shit.

We should most definitely get the Sock Puppet ability solely by the virtue of its name.

>>30357582
if we are going to tell, at least go with something like this.
there are far too many people here to reveal that we will keep flint in a ship.

>>30357606
Think of it like this, if they target the Nyxystix they're basically assaulting the lineage of Arland. It puts the majority of Sandelephons options for acquiring Flint to be open military conflict, and Arcturis will understand that.

>>30357634
I have a feeling we'll have to give an explanation on who we are soon enough.

I'm going with the whole result of an experiment with the Elf Queen and us in order to save Venia from Chaos thing from last night if it comes to needing a cover story.

>>30357634
I don't think we've used Spirit around them yet.

>>30357648
He might help along Arcturis in his retirement

>>30357582
THIS

>>30357645
I wouldn't be surprised if it could use our spells

>>30357650
>heal Dave and keep him or kill him and attain our complete power
Damn son

>>30357654
Not really, the only ones who don't know are the orcs, the werewolves, and the Arlanders.

>>30357634
Well they already know someone who is skilled in the four greater elements.

>>30357674
Spirit Siphon, though it failed. That's aside to the things like hammer.

>>30357686
Deep, isn't it. It's just like SM to use story-related ability gates too. Happened with Hydra.

>>30357386
why not have Arcturis launch an expidition to recover Xile, with Donovan at its head with

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>>30357653

Sockpuppets are always fun.

You know, Erebus gave the Moonsong to Dave.

So one of the powers of the 3rd level is going to be Shard Gift.

>>30357681
Plausible, and our shards like we did with the Noirelev.

>>30357670
I'm thinking more random shadow elemental that is sentient. Or maybe a Shadow Mage that somehow merged with a shadow elemental in some epic duel. Thugh these are both pretty weak.

>>30357694
>not too many
thats like a dozen people...

>Donovan is still fucking cursed by the Shelkath
>AFTER ALL THIS TIME
>AFTER WE WERE SO CLOSE
>AFTER WE DID ALMOST EVERYTHING RIGHT
I've never been so close to dropping this quest as I am right now.

>>30357718
They would get fucked hardcore. You remember Xile right?

>>30357593

SM, can we use Hammer as a normal melee weapon or must it always be a Special Usage?

>>30357695
The tradeoff is that Hemmy lacks raw power as a result of his quad alignment.

John Nyx bodyslammed a walking nuclear reactor into the wall.

>>30357739
But they are all important and strong allies.

>>30357747
yep thats why we Say hes a xile, but not let him go, or anyone for that matter

>>30357754
Maybe if we get it to resonant we could just use it, but iirc we can't right now.

>>30357736
Dude, no.

The reason why the whole Elf Queen shit works is because it's the truth, sans a few important details.

Hemellus is a lie detector. We need to go with the truth. Just not the whole truth.

If you want to admit we're not completely human too that's okay but I omitted that detail since it wasn't necessary to sell the idea.

>>30357746
Blame people thinking Matthel had anything worth listening to, and move on to focusing down the bigger issues.

>>30357757
>John Nyx bodyslammed a walking nuclear reactor into the wall.

TO HEMMELUS, THE DAY JOHN NYX BODYSLAMMED A WALKING NUCLEAR REACTOR INTO A WALL WAS THE GREATEST DAY OF HIS LIFE.

BUT TO JOHN NYX, IT WAS JUST TUESDAY.

>>30357757
All these people referring to us as "John Nyx" and not "Shadow" or "Mister Shadow"

I am sad ;_;

>>30357794
It was SMs intention all along to get us to pick a name.
You fools have fallen for his trap!

"Escaping Xile was difficult," you say, "but in so doing, we also secured a means to get there again. An airship - far larger than any that exist now. Auriel tells me it is a carrier class. It is powered by twin dynamos that, together, completely ignore the skysever - and it has several other useful properties as well. Sandalphon won't be able to get inside or even damage it easily."

Arcturis slowly nods. "These properties you mention...?"

"It resists magic," you say. "Enough that it can travel through the skysever itself without a scratch. I'm not sure if it has limitations, but from a practical standpoint, it's more or less invulnerable. It's large enough that the whole city of Haven can fit inside of it."

"It's as good a place as any, and it'll be able to stay moving," Arcturis says.

"I'm afraid the angels will notice something of that size," Hemmelus says.

"It can turn invisible."

"...well. Solves that problem."

Fang gives you a pointed look. "One wonders what other mystical artifacts of power were discovered on Xile and left...undocumented."

<If you mean the staff...>

<No,> Fang says. <But don't try to slide things past me, Shadow. I don't like surprises.>

It's a stiff reminder that while Fang is on your side, he's still...himself.

"Ok," Arcturis says. "We'll go with that."

You look to Ila. She nods, and vanishes on the spot.

"Shadow mages," Waterford mumbles.

"My lord," Anderson says, "with the fourth demon, I fear the Kanians will press their main force to the border. I have to return to my lands. We have no time left."

"One week," Arcturis says. "Arland will come in one week. And we need at least that time to coordinate with the others. Hold them that long."

Anderson nods. "My lord." The portly man turns and strides out of the cathedral, his humor gone. His face is grim.

"The rest of you," Arcturis says, "get some sleep, if you can. We'll need to be ready for them come morning."

>con't

>>30357783
Completely spaced, my bad.

Though sentient Shadow Elemental is not a lie.

>>30357794
I said John Nyx instead of Shadow because the topic of conversation was the perceptions of the people that know him as John Nyx, not Shadow.

>>30357794

Sorry, until it comes out that we are an Elemental Lord our name will have to stay John Nyx

>>30357794
Shhh no tears, only planing now

Things known about John Nyx:

-Powerful Shadow Mage capable of using all 4 lesser Elements
-Young, Mid-20's
-Survived the Archonium
-Destroyed the Archonium
-Involved with Lady Abigail Fang
-Freed Shadow and Spirit Mages held by the Ring City
-Killed Metatron

Anything else?

What do you do now?

>gather your inner circle. It's time to tell them about Hecate
>check in with Steward. How does he plan to get his forces here? How's Abigail's project coming?
>Maybe you should speak with Hemmelus. You don't want any lingering misunderstandings.
>talk with someone else

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Vote 1:
>purchase Magic Power V

Vote 2:
>save experience to 'Chosen' Abigail and/or Ila

Vote 3:
>purchase Heartstone Titan

>>30357428
Yeah, Arcturis is turning out to be pretty bro.

I was totally wrong about him, and I'm very glad about it.

>>30357839
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>>30357839
>Maybe you should speak with Hemmelus. You don't want any lingering misunderstandings

>>30357839
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>>30357839
I want to do all of them but let's go with Hecate talk first.

>>30357839
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>>30357839
>gather your inner circle. It's time to tell them about Hecate
Hecate first, then Hemmelus, then Steward

>>30357839
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>>30357834

They don't know we've killed Raziel, Michael and Lucifer, right?

>>30357839
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>>30357839
>gather your inner circle. It's time to tell them about Hecate

>>30357810
I'm curious, when they disappear is there a little puff of black smoke?

>>30357839
>Maybe you should speak with Hemmelus. You don't want any lingering misunderstandings.
I guess we're going with that Elf Queen experiment story and explaining the whole Chaos and Order thing(how well known is that, anyway? Does Hemmelus know already)?

>>30357839
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>>30357902
We really need to tell Arc and everyone that.

They think that they have someone stronger than Meta with Sandalthong. It is a very big thing

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>>30357839
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Just so you know, if we can't get MP5 I'll vote for Ila chosening instead. Mostly because it serves her better than Abby right now.

>>30357839

cutting off votes

>>30357914

No, they just vanish. They're mages, not ninjas. Well, they're basically mage-ninjas, but no, no puffs of smoke.

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>>30357839
I really wanna Chosen Abby and lla though.

Abby gets Earth
lla gets Shadow Magic
Who should our third Chosen be?

and other ideas for Servants were Cain, Hamil, Young Bull, and Steward, maybe Valeria.

Team waifu chosening wins. WELP. Guess Team Magic goes back to the queue.

>>30357950
I'd rather just do both.

MP V: 8

chosen: 10

Alright, you've locked in the choice to Chosen one of them, at least. I assume Abigail?

Let's go talk to Hemmelus. What is your explanation to him?

>>30357961
Stop trying to waste that much XP on that varied of subjects, chosening is really fucking special. Inner circle xXproShadowzXx, brah.

>>30357961
Holy shit stop what are you thinking.

>>30357834
Made a trip to Xile and recovered the most powerful airship in the world

>>30358011
Why?

>>30357997
Do a vote for
1: Abby only
2: Ila only
3: Both

>>30357746
Dude, it's not like he died or some shit, they still have to physically get him. And even if shit did go that bad, why drop it? Follow the happening train to the end. Besides, everything is still going pretty good for us, more or less.

>>30357997
I vote for Ila. Don't assume SM.

>>30357997
I'd rather chosen Ila first, actually. Abigail has a lot of political responsibilities, I don't expect her to be involved in fighting just yet.
Ila will be involved a lot, though.

>>30357961
how about Auriel

>>30357997
We're an experiment done by us and the Elf Queen to combat the growing Chaos in Venia by opposing it with Order magic(Shadow). The process resulted in us losing our memories and we only know a little about ourselves from what the Queen knew of us(not much).

All technically true.

>>30357997
supporting this
>>30358026

lla is best girlsis

>>30358024
... because its dumb.

>>30357997

Abrigail.

>>30357839
>gather your inner circle. It's time to tell them about Hecate

Man this shit is important. Hecate is a massive, massive trump card.

>Maybe you should speak with Hemmelus. You don't want any lingering misunderstandings.

We really should talk with him. He saw everything that happened during that fight, and I'm quite certain that he has concluded that John is not a regular mage.

>Updated:

Things known about John Nyx:

-Powerful Shadow Mage capable of using all 4 lesser Elements
-Survived the Archonium
-Destroyed the Archonium
-Involved with Lady Abigail Fang
-Freed Shadow and Spirit Mages held by the Ring City
-Made a trip to Xile and recovered a giant airship
-Killed Metatron

Anything else?

>>30357997

"I'm an Erubus and I'm good and nice but I like to consume souls so I'll get stronger. I am good at punching and nightblazing."

>>30358056
What about it is dumb?

The servanting ideas were just raw unfiltered ideas and i wasn't actually proposing them.

>>30357746
take a break from it. i've done so a couple of times and am glad to have done so.

>>30358046
I thought about that, but it removes Haven's best healer, her 700 years combat experience with light magic, and it's cruel to make her immortal again when she's finally found a man to spend the rest of her life with.

>>30357997
"Yo Hem-dawg, I'm actually Erebus reincarnated."

>>30357997
I'd rather do the artifact thing but yeah, Chosen Abby.

We need to get to a shadow mana pool though so we'll need access to these guys's pool for teleport or fly there.

>>30357997
Ila, you mean.

>>30358064
-Somehow got nations and factions to work together despite hundreds of years of hatred and fighting. Unknown how.

>>30357953
>np puffs of smoke
What about little puffs of shadow energy?

>>30358048
This.

>>30357997
You want us to Chosen Abby so that when you kill her with that 1 it'll be even more painful, right SM?

>>30358083
We'll just have to servant Donovan, too!
Fuck no don't do this.

Though, I do kind of want to bring up servanting with Auriel to see her reaction.

>>30357997
Yes, Abigail.

>>30358065
>I'm an Erubus and I'm good and nice but I like to consume souls so I'll get stronger. I am good at punching and I 420Blazeit erry day faget

ftfy

>>30357997
>What is your explanation to him?
What are we trying to explain?

>>30358128
I really don't know how she would react and now i'm curious.

I miss when we knew next to nothing about humans and were always exploring and being tactless.

>>30358048
Is no one else but this guy going to come up with anything to tell Hemmelus?

Stop arguing about waifus for a second and make some suggestions/votes, people.

>>30357997
>I assume Abigail?
Getting ahead of yourself there.

>We're an experiment done by us and the Elf Queen to combat the growing Chaos in Venia by opposing it with Order magic(Shadow). The process resulted in us losing our memories and we only know a little about ourselves from what the Queen knew of us(not much).

So this is the explanation we're giving to Hemmelus as to why we're awesome?

Alright,

Vote 1:
>Chosen Abigail

Vote 2:
>Chosen Ila

Vote 3:
>Why not both?

>>30357997
But m-muh magic power.

>>30358128

What if we servant Joey? If he lives forever he can tell a story about everything!

>>30358083
then we just CoNsUmE Hyperion and light servent her and Donovan

>>30357997
FUCK NO I say we just keep it, we got fucked over in our last fight so many times because we didn't have mana.

We never learn do we.

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>>30358121
>What about little puffs of shadow energy?

The point is to hide, not give yourself away. What do you think this is, one of your Chinese cartoons?

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Magic power.

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>>30358173

Lets not servant both right now and instead use the exp's to buy tree gift.

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>>30358173
I'd rather ask HIM if he feels that we need to explain anything, shadow master. Just coming up to Hemmelus and dropping an explanation that wasn't asked for is pretty LITERALLY STUPID, guys. Don't do it.
Get input first, don't provoke your own information.

>>30358173

Take the experiment bit out.

The Elf Queen did it to us when we were really weak and after we saved her life. We lost our memories as a result.

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>>30358207
>one of your Chinese cartoons?
In my head canon, yes.

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Fuck this Abaigail isn't even that experienced in combat, if we actually want to see our choosen see combat then waste the XP on lla.

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>>30358251
It was an experiment, sort of. More like a gambit.

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I'd like to hear the reasons for the Abigail voters.
From where I'm standing, Ila is the most effective choice. She'll be able to make use of it immediately, Abigail won't be fighting until much later in the arc. We can chosen her later.

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>>30358278

I like the term gambit better. Endeavor also works.

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>>30358285
>We can chosen her after nomming a d-lord
ftfy

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>>30358173
I don't really like that explanation but i don't really see an alternative. Maybe we should ask some allies for ideas?

>>30358173
I'd rather we just say hemmelus we are a powerful shadow mage.
i definitely dont like the experiment shit.

>>30358285
Mai waifu.

That's also the reason for some of the Ila voters too, by the way.

>>30358173

We could add a bit saying that it was done without our consent.

>>30358285
Because tru wuv

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>>30358173

cutting off votes

>>30358173

I'm ver tempted to request Shadow Wings here.

>>30358312

What if we say we're a freaky shadow monster that tries to help his friends? That's true and I'm sure he'll be chill.

>>30358342
All of our Servants get them. and we could have them whenever we want.

>>30358295
I think that's kind of the whole point of the explanation. It allows us to finally talk about the Shadow = Order shit and address the whole Venia is tearing itself apart with Chaos thing.

>>30358361
I feel the same, since I believe Hemmelus to be one of the few mages able to help us with it, considering his power and experience.

>>30358359

During the explanation.

>Hemmelus figures out we're Ereboogaloo2
>Doesn't say anything because he thinks we doin good now and doesn't wanna risk a relapse
I can see it happening.

Well, I guess we're servanting Ila. When she gets back, I suppose you can do that when you have a moment.

So, about Hemmelus...

What do you do?

>write-in

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>>30358385
More that we'll actually be able to consult with him about it without him flipping the fuck out

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>>30358326
That's... disappointing.
I thought we were past such things.

>>30358396

I'm glad 1 lost. I picked 2 and 3.

The reason I voted for Abigail is because SM SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA HIM-FUCKING-SELF.
THE POST IS RIGHT HERE >>30357150

>>30358392
Ask allies for a good cover story. Specifically Auriel, she seems to be good at that sort of thing.

>>30358408
There will will always be people who chew knobs

>>30358418
Same

>>30358429
We will do it once we get some more EXP, it is next on the list. then MP5

>>30358392
I think people just want to drop the experiment bit and say that we're cooperating with the Elf Queen to stop the Venia exploding from Chaos deal and that our power is the result of a gambit that the two of us pulled off to get through.

Technical truth to explain our power and springboard a conversation about Shadow being Order and Venia's core crisis.

>>30358429
I trust SM to do things to make the plot interesting, but beyond that I wouldn't... press my luck.

>>30358408
I voted for both because I'm still pulling for a Shadow harem ending.

Huh. That's a shame. I wanted to go with Abigail so that she can get to our level. Looks like she'll just have to stay behind for now.

>>30358454

Also that we lost our memories.

>>30358433
>Ask allies for a good cover story. Specifically Auriel, she seems to be good at that sort of thing.

You can either let one of your allies explain, and roll the dice, or you can give an explanation yourself and I'll judge his reaction on the merits of your argument.

>>30358392
Why are we trying some cover-up story? We are a shadow mage. Not like that's impossible to believe or a lie...

>>30358452
In case you haven't noticed, XP isn't exactly being thrown around like candy anymore.

>>30358433
>>30358454
These.

>>30358392
Phone a friend?

>>30358454
Agreed on this.

>>30358392

"So you know Erebus? A long time ago he broke himself into many parts and I'm one of those parts but I met lots of friends when I became sentient/sapient and I want to make them happy. Dondon is my best friend."

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>>30357834
-Doesn't give a fuck

>>30358477
I'm not seeing very many good arguments.

Can we have a discussion with our allies on the subject?

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>>30358473
I think this works.

If he presses we might have to reveal that we aren't technically human but that can be explained away by the gambit we pulled to get out power without additional details.

>>30358392
SHADOW SISTA!

I wanted to get Abby too, but I also wanted an Erasure in our back pocket in case Sandals gets uppity. When we get 5 more xp, I will support Chosening Abby.

Something about a something to stop the Chaos because Order... I think it would really help most of the players to get the conversation starting before we pick what say exactly, unless this is just picking a general topic to have in mind when we go in there.

It just seems odd to walk in and instantly splorg dump about order and experiments and stop da chaos without getting a bearing on the mood and surroundings of the conversation

>>30358482
We got 4 Demon lords coming up. We can snag at least 2.

>>30358454
This

>>30358477
Handle it ourselves.

We're a sentient shadow elemental.

It's close enough to the truth. It explains a lot about us.
And when Sandalthong talks about the "experiment" he took from Yi Fang, which then turned Ring City upside down, we don't have have yet -another- uncomfortable well-here's-the-REAL-truth conversation.

We should call ourselves an unexpected leftover from when Erebus was defeated. We were put in suspension until one day we developed sentience. Don't claim amnesia, just that we're a new form of life. An elemental with free will.

>>30358454
This is pretty reasonable.

>>30358524
It's not unreasonable to reveal that we're not strictly human, especially given that our exploits are eventually going to be tied back to when we were still amorphous as a matter of course.

Anybody else thinking we should HeadHunt that Poison Demon Lord (the one we almost got fucked by on the second trip to Evinbrook) since we're completely immune to it?

We would stomp its shit so fast it wouldn't even be funny, and that's a nice chunk of EXP

>>30358565
Yeah, that.

>>30358588
Unless it has some bullshit ability that poops on immunities.

>>30358565
Seconding

>>30358588
Demon Lords come with an army I thought

>>30358588
I'm not sure it's as much Poison as it is Anime Acid Monster, but I feel some coordination will be involved if we want to take those on.

There's a lot of things our powers could let us do to the Kanian lines, really. If we're willing to what's necessary.

>>30358565
This is also good; a bit less on the topic of why we started doing what we did, but it's more straightforward with what we actually are.

>>30358615
I don't think it would, but if we get in trouble we can always supersonic out of there.

>>30358627
That can be dealt with

>>30358615
>what would be the point of immunity then? do we ever fight other enemies with ailment abilities?

>>30358540

Someone's optimistic.

Vote 1:
>My powers are part of a gambit I ran with the elf queen, Ellendra Kalladar, to counteract the rampant growth of chaos in the world, which we suspect is due to problems with the core of chaos. The process was successful, but cost me my memories, and took her out of commission for a long time. I still haven't made anything but basic contact with her.

Vote 2:
>I'm a sentient shadow elemental, just born last year. I'm still learning a lot, but Donovan's helped keep me on track as my power grows.

>>30358640
We could always combine the two.

I like the first suggestion because it let's us talk about the Chaos and Order shit.

>>30358653
Darkxis had poison. That's about it.

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>>30358663
if 2 then we talk about the chaos and order aswell

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>>30358663
This vote is making my asshole pucker.

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>>30358663
Bleh. I don't like the wording on either of those, I wish we had more time to flesh out option 2.
Abstaining, let my fellow players pick my poison.

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>People reveal xile and ship and all
>People reveal being sentient shadow elemental
Painful times are ahead.

>>30358724

You need to go number 2?

>>30358730
we can do that with option 2