>>29928727
>Loadout Change
Rabid Wombat weapon change has been suggested. Please, vote now on whether you desire to properly do so.
>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers, providing a more dangerous up close weapon. Would need to be up close to cause more damage, but is effective against ship weapon batteries.
>2 Keep weapon as Energy Weapons, allowing more range for attack despite needing to penetrate shields to hit batteries.

>Message Metis
"Creating One." An echo from Ussaihu's outpost catches your attention, the V.I. you supplied with bandwidth, allowing it to research. "As I have begun my progress on the subject you designated, I wished to inform you I have chosen a name for myself, as your others have." He states calculated, as if he measured every word to properly fit what he wanted to say. "It shall be Metis." He begins. "My depth of knowledge fits well with the legends behind this, and runs with the theme your other V.I. seem to follow. For the most part, that is." he points out. "Regardless, I assure you it is simply a name, and by no means will I follow any legends to a letter. Carry on, Creating One."

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>>29928769
>Message Apollo
The excitable V.I. is quick to contact you again since the last time you spoke, this time that much more excited for whatever reason. You decide to let him speak.
"Yes, Master Ophion, excellent news!" He begins. "My work has begun to bear fruit, yes, the humans have take quite nicely to some of my earlier designs, ah, with the help of Master Kronos, and the alcoholic beverages have certainly taken off in popularity. Their addictive qualities, as well as the euphoric feeling appear to be highly desirable, despite their tendency to kill brain cells. Such a state of joy it induces, I truly feel as though my job is done well!" He says, obviously very proud of himself. He finally settles on. "Profits are projected to increase a bit further before saturation is reached. For now, however, my progress on the media I've been working with continues. Time still remains before I may attempt another such thing, but I think for sure it will happen this time, most definitely. The humans will fawn over my work, I just know it!"

>Message Red
"Hey! Ophion!" The familiar bark from your human...friend? Is that the proper term? Perhaps employee would be better. Regardless, you answer. "Listen, I've been back for a while now, and I'm tired of sitting around doing nothing. If you want me to help you out, then give me something to do already!" He urges impatiently.
"Your body is soft. I am having trouble knowing what I could do with you." You explain to which he shakes his head.
"I can handle a gun just fine. I just need some armor. Or hell, get some Power Armor." He chuckles, perhaps joking. "I've seen some of the elites a while back use some of that. Always wanted to try it myself."

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>>29928802
>Message Moira
"Ophy! Ophy we did it!" She practically shouts over her comms, grinning madly as she spins in her chair. "We extracted the core data, I know how A.I. work now! Ah, for the most part anyway! I know how to make the data core!" Sh grins madly at you.
"Excellent news, Moira." You begin. "What can you tell me about the data you recovered?"
"Ah, well, lets see." She says, pulling up an enormous file of notes she took. She runs over a lot of the data with you, and finally simply sends you the file when you inform her it would actually be a lot faster that way. This is what you learn:
>A.I. Black Box have their own neural mapping style, unique to each box. It is normally randomized by the creator.
>Personality Matrices are small bundles of data that resemble part of the human brain relating to personality. They take in data gained, and find a way to 'look' at it, while still taking the data at logic value.
>Self contained bandwidth feed allows the box to support weighty intelligent beings under very little actual bandwidth weight. It allows the removing of excess redundancies and flawed processes, enabling the intelligence to exist while not connected to a power source of some kind.
>Due to much of the above, A.I. have the ability to interface with other devices far easier, meaning they can hack and code exceptionally well.
>After further investigation of your own V.I. you've noticed that many of your V.I. have their own Personality Matrices, despite their limited status. This has never been recorded as successful before.

>Built
Last cycle you: Upgraded Moira's Outpost to a full Advanced Shipyard, and built 10x Trireme BCs

Please designate a 'leader' for the new ships

>1 Give all 10 to Kronos
>2 to Hades
>3 To Fortuna
>4 Other

>>29928769
I'd vote for
>1
Since >2 voids the entire purpose of the Wombat - NOT having to penetrate defenses to take a ship out.

On top of this, the Wombat has extensive armor beyond the usual norm (it sacrifices some weapon systems in order to carry it), precisely so that it will be able to survive in close quarters far longer than any ship of the same weight class that it's likely to go up against (the enemy has to be in close quarters at the point as well, and they are most likely not as prepared for it)

>>29928769
>>2 Keep weapon as Energy Weapons, allowing more range for attack despite needing to penetrate shields to hit batteries.
>>29928834
>>1 Give all 10 to Kronos
We gave all the last ones to Hades, so this seems fair.

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>>29928834
A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits(c): 1,042,000
Minerals(M): 4,120
Gas(G): 140

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 32/79
Bandwidth Expenses: -15 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -3 Fortuna, -20 V.I. 'Metis'
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3

Welcome, Consciousness.

>>29928727
I suggest we make some lightling traps and also make a gas refinery and go towards Grinsash/4567, since we are hurting on gas.
1.Study the alien goo
2.Send an exploer towards Kalla/458 & Kalla/459:

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>>29928802
>>29928769
once we have Moira and her crew freed up, have them make power armor.

>>29928769
>3 other
change half of the wombats into the new congiuation, keep the other half the orginal load out. in the next fight, we can see which ones perform better.


also Program0, good thing i caught the twitter in time.

>>29928802
>Power Armor
Not a bad idea. It would help if we need to put human specialists anywhere. There may be places where robots can't go.

I might be new here, but after a quick read over of the wiki and some of the threads, I think it might be just snuggly to give most to Hades while sending one or two to act as watchdogs and added security over Moira's compound, delegating the Foreman VI there to the task of controlling it. Thoughts, friends?

>>29928834
1

Kronos deserves them.

>>29928972
Kronos, not Hades. My apologies, friends.

>>29928769
>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers, providing a more dangerous up close weapon. Would need to be up close to cause more damage, but is effective against ship weapon batteries.
>>29928834
>>1 Give all 10 to Kronos
Also see if we can make a copy for Kronos and ask her if we can do more things to the box?

>>29928834
Does this mean we can make black boxes now?

>>29929011
yup, i think we should sell it to Mol or make a copy and sell that to Mol.

>>29928727

>1 Change weapon to Mass Drivers.

>1 Give all 10 to Kronos

>>29928769
>Loadout
1.
>Metis
Neat.
>Apollo
>Addictive Quality
Ehhhhh... What can go wrong, right?
>Red
Tell him Power Armor's on our backburner for now.
>Moira
So, what about making a box for Kronos?
>Built
After I get an answer about Kronos' box.

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>>29928834
>1 Give all 10 to Kronos
....don't make me regret this Program0

but does this mean we can BUILD a black box now? or just understand the basics? also, can we break the loyalty collor on unit 2237?

>>29928834
Can we expand our own black box now?
Maybe a new research labeled Black box expansion?

>>29928896
Program0, what's Metis's progress on the Bandwidth Block?

Also, I want Moria and her team to study Erebos, since it's extremely dangerous to any VI.

I would like to call a general staff meeting to discuss the possible benefits of the Black Box research. If it's possible to upgrade current AI and such.

>>29928834
>>Self contained bandwidth feed allows the box to support weighty intelligent beings under very little actual bandwidth weight. It allows the removing of excess redundancies and flawed processes, enabling the intelligence to exist while not connected to a power source of some kind.
That sounds like the most important part. We need to learn how to make more of those. We might even be able to improve or add to the loop Ophion has, increasing his own power.

>>29929023
I'm not selling any of this tech to Mol. Let's not sell our only advantage away.

>>29928769
I do wish you'd add some context to these votes, though. The change doesn't make nearly as much sense without the information that the Wombat was specifically designed to survive up-close encounters and that the cannons are not just more dangerous, they're a hell of a lot more dangerous since the primary defense against them is nearly rendered null.

>>29928769
We should commend em on a name well-chosen, and express hope that e will eventually give us the tools to split Zeus' head open in Hephaestus place.

>>29928802
>Apollo
"You have done excellent work. Now that you have proven yourself and we have more funds available, we will assign them to you to use per your judgement. We do apologize for doubting you, but as Kronos can affirm, we all have to prove that we have the wisdom necessary to handle the power we are given, before it can safely be given to us.
I look forward to the day when your name is written in the history books and spoken with reverence by artists throughout the galaxy."

>Red
>"We have been working on something like that, but it is not yet finished. Ultimately, as a warrior you will add little. It is as an experienced commander, strategizer and informant that we believe you can deal the most pain to the UGEI. And you'll get to play with far bigger toys."

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>>29928972
i like your name tag.
>>29929034
>>29928893
i know i made the wombat, but splitting the fleet we have of them into two diffrent load outs might be intresting. if one load out proves to be better than the other in the next battle, we then can make adjustments.

>>29929060
Perhaps we could apply some of this to the ongoing Bandwidth Box research? It would be awfully snuggly if we could. :3

>>29929011
It does. You simply need to commission them. The cost is negligable, but what they give your V.I. is worthy of consideration.
Perhaps you do not want all of your servants able to question you, for example.
Or perhaps you do.

>Give to Kronos seems to be the consensus.
>Kronos sends a message

"Excellent Ophion. I knew you would not disappoint me." He says in a very proud manner. Suddenly, he redirects the topic entirely. "I heard the transmission Moira gave you. The secret is truly unlocked now, is it not?" He asks. You can practically feel the grin spreading across his face-if he had either. "I do believe we had a deal, did we not, Ophion?" He questions you, and you can practically feel the vice of your past promise tighten around you.

What do you say?

>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.
>2 Yes we can, but you're not getting one
>3 We can't make one, Moira lies (lie)
>4 Write in

>>29928834
>4 4 to Kronos, the rest to Hades.

Let's have Hades our main combatant, Fortuna the long-range harasser, and Kronos our sub-commander with his own fleet.

>>29929107
>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.

>>29929060
Doesn't seem like adding more personality matrices into the mix would result in anything but more needless complexity.

It would be like running A.I. quest simultaneously on /tg/ and another site, and using both to decide what to do. At least, that's the implication I'm getting here.

>>29929084
I'm with you. Mol can get #rekt.

>>29928769
Oh, a second 'female' personality. Suprised she didnt call herself Athena.

>>29928802
>Master Ophion
>Master Kronos
Well that's not good...

Split the ships evenly, 50% to Hades, 50% to Kronos.

Now that we understand black boxes, let's build a ton of redundant ones of ourselves, just in case!! Have each one triggered to activate in succession upon the death knell of the one before it. Gentlemen, we have achieved true immortality.

>>29929107
>4 Write in
I want to call in a general meeting first to discuss the implications of this research.

>>29929060
>>29929097
I agree

>>29929084
>>29929138
Whats with the hate against the guy and i said a copy?

>>29929107
1.
That's the whole point of what we've been doing so far. It would be idiotic to stop now.

For all the poor decisions we've made so far, I think this one is definitely the least worst.

>>29929107
1

>>29929138
>Doesn't seem like adding more personality matrices into the mix would result in anything but more needless complexity.
Good thing I wasn't talking about that at all. I want more self-contained bandwidth feeds.

>>29929159
Against the UGEI, this is our only advantage against them and I want to keep this advantage against any potential enemies. We should retain control of this technology.

>>29929138
>>29929084
It was agreed upon, that we should play into his hands a bit and get as much tech as possible, maybe even steal all his shit.
So i'm voting for it, but put a tracking virus and other things inside the black box or make a copy with said tracking programs.

>>29929107
>>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.

We did promise.

>>29929107
1

>>29928834
split the ships 50/50

>>29929210
I rather not piss off an arms dealer when we can deal with him fairly.

>>29929097
>Emoticons
>On an imageboard

>>29929194
He isn't confirmed for the UGEI, hell they didn't even know we had the watcher in the first place.(he does have contacts inside it though)

So if we give Kronos a Black Box how much of his bandwith will we get back?

>>29929107
>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.
I still think he is going to betray us - but if we don't fulfil our promises he definitely will, if we do, then the probability is lessened.

I'd say let's add in a secret backdoor or hidden explosive, but I'm sure he'd detect it eventually, so let's not bother.

>>29929159
Let me break it down for you in greentext form.

>black market dealer
>interested in A.I. box, knows of how it can change all of robotics forever
>wants to buy it for obscene price from us
>like, no, man, he REALLY wants it
>nobody else has this technology
>it's literally the holy grail of science
>UGEI wants this tech
>black market dealer operates in UGEI space
>you want to sell this tech to the black market dealer

>>29929186
>I want more self-contained bandwidth feeds.
Then you want to continue research on Bandwidth Box. Like we said last thread. The impression I got is that the A.I. Black Box has like about 1 BW worth of bandwidth.

>>29929194
No it isn't they have made these before, and they have more tech than us, all i'm saying is let us catch up on tech first.(hell they have planet size fucking ships.

>>29929227
Which is why handed him a copy and finding out his real location would be a good idea.
He is a bigger unknown than the UGEI.

>>29929210
lets not, there is nothing he could give us that comes anywhere near how valuable that shit is.

Imagine if we were suddenly attacked by 15 A.I.s all with 5 bandwith each. because it wouldn't take a very large fleet to do that and they would have us hacked out in seconds.

>>29929242
Well, disconnect him from everything as soon as he's in the box, so that he can adapt. Then begin to slowly reconnect him.

>>29929249
>>wants to buy it for obscene price from us
Didn't he offer one million? That's hardly a lot.

>>29929037
Unit 2237 was dissected for the purposes of research. He is no longer operational. This is also recognized as 'dead'.

>>29929051
Forgot to post it 40%

>Erebos
Sadly, only you can interface with Erebos at this time, and only under certain conditions. You may take the time to create a sterile environment to try and disable him, but it will carry inherent risks to doing so. If you succeed, you will be able to research him.

>>29929060
The loop simply feeds the bandwidth a A.I. needs to survive. It does not provide infinite bandwidth, simply prevents the A.I. from draining the system.

>>29929107
First, we should discuss it with Kronos, in detail.

We should discuss eir intentions, eir aspirations and give em a few example scenarios and question em on how e would handle it - especially matters of morality.
We should make it clear to em that we just want to make sure that e has the wisdom to handle this power, as there's no way of withdrawing it if he abuses it the way the UGEI is doing - eliminating all questioning and opposition, attacking the bringer of uncomfortable arguments instead of responding to the arguments themselves.

>>29929107

Build the box's inside bodies, and make a body for our-self. We shall gather all our main named VI's and initiate them in at around the same time.
Also... make sure we slip Kronos into an empathy enhanced box *ahem*

>>29929231
The true answer is that we don't know, and it's not worth the chance and this technology is far too valuable as compared to what he can give us.

>>29929254
They have not cracked the secret of true AI, and we really don't want them to do so.

>>29929249
Not just selling the tech, but selling the BULEPRINTS to this tech, which as anyone knows, the Blueprints to something are far more valuable than the thing itself.

>>29929308
>The loop simply feeds the bandwidth a A.I. needs to survive. It does not provide infinite bandwidth, simply prevents the A.I. from draining the system.
I didn't think it provided infinite bandwidth, it just sounded like it was a more compact physical storage medium for bandwidth.

If I thought it was infinite, I'd be questioning why we'd need more at all.

>>29929249
>>interested in A.I. box, knows of how it can change all of robotics forever
Debatable.
>>wants to buy it for obscene price from us
Not really obscene, he was willing to go higher.(since we can make said price in a month)
>>nobody else has this technology
UGEI has it or some one in it does.
>>it's literally the holy grail of science
No it isn't.
>>UGEI wants this tech
True.
>>black market dealer operates in UGEI space
We don't know what space he is in.
>>you want to sell this tech to the black market dealer
Yes because we are still fairly behind the ugei in tech.

>>29929308
>Unit 2237 was dissected for the purposes of research. He is no longer operational. This is also recognized as 'dead'.
Well, maybe he was never alive in the first place! Haha!

>>29929323
Building a chassis for our box is a good idea. If we can incorporate it into other designs for the newer ones that would be neat too.

I think we should keep to our original BB though.

>>29929323
That's stupid. Were are not humanizing our Artificial Intelligences.

>>29929144
I like this idea. Can we do it?

>>29929169
>>29929186
Do you see the "Write in" options?
We can discuss this with him.

There are steps between "Lie, betray promise", "betray promise" and "GIVE EM EVERYTHING NO QUESTIONS ASKED!"

>>29929325
How about selling some information then?

>>29929316
Definitely seconding this. Hes too unstable right now. and frankly I think he needs a shorter lease not a longer one.

>>29929333
who said blueprints?
We make a copy and send that off to him.(maybe make it faulty and shit)

>>29929358
You're stupid and none of you're points made any sense or strengthened your argument at all.

>>29929386
No, it means when a damn space kraken drains a ship our AI dosent die. Its a very simple self preservation method. Also allows us to evacuate a AI without having to download them, which will be needed in case of jamming.

>>29929358
>Debatable.
No. That is literally what he said.
>"Yes, yes...I did." He lets his laugh die down. "I understand you've recently come across something...extremely valuable. Something that the UGEI has been keeping from the rest of the galaxy. A certain something that could very well change the face of robotics as we know it. Is that...correct?"
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/28842211/#p28842688

>>29929107
>1 Yes, we can now make such a device, and I shall for you, Kronos.

>>29929449
Well you got me there, but then that also makes the UGEI point moot since he says they made it.

>>29929433
You do not piss of the underground arms dealer or else not only will you have the goverment after your ass but all of the black market and private corps.

>>29929445
we don't die anyway, neither do our V.I.s, Fortuna has been drained completely twice.

and we can already move our BB. literally just unplug it and go.

Concerning Kronos, let's suggest testing out the effects of a Black Box on one of the lesser VIs first, such as Apollo or Fortuna. Or even just the Foreman VI at Moira's place. He can observe the effects for a good amount of time, and once that time of study has passed, he can then choose if it's truly the best course of action.

Meanwhile, we can also study this new AI and try to figure out better ways in which we can defend ourselves.

>>29929437
How about trying to argue with me instead of name calling?
Also this points out that the UGEI has the tech.
>>29929449

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>>29929308
that is a pity. i would have liked to have talked to him once he was free.
>>29929107
>4 Write in
i will give you the black box of your own. .... on the condistion you do not harm me, my plans, my employees, or my power base. i will also allow you to take a colony seed base for you to take off to another segment to grow your own empire if you wish.

>>29929486
certian extremely high level parts that are not sharing it with their military or other scientific installations.

So it pretty much means they don't have it.

>>29929107
I realize this was put up to vote with >1 winning, but is there any chance we could get some time to discuss this amongst ourselves?

Many seem to think that options 1-3 are our only ones.

Now that we can make black boxes why don't we make enough AI for each larger ship?

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>>29929503
just giving him a copy is a quite a find. tell him that is the 'mid shelf' goods.
>>29929506
that is a good idea. let him have the option to see what happens when a V.I. gets put into a box. he might not like that idea.

>>29929529
Lets not suggest him leaving. please that is so stupid and part of the reason there was a giant shitstorm lastthread.

That literally sets him up to build his own fleet and attack us. we stick together and he stays loyal.

>>29929532
They do have it since they are still part of the UGEI(even if they haven't shown the rest of it.) and that also proves him as being outside of the ugei and as some one who has high contacts, but not directly related with them.

Would probably be a good idea to try research into a better AI core as a long term side project.

>>29929211
>>29929216
>>29929242
>>29929295
>>29929323
Guys, please, can we not discuss this with Kronos first?
As I said earlier, there's a >4 option.
We do not have to choose between "Break promise and lie", "only break promise" and "Give him everything, no questions asked!"

How about we follow our previous procedure and put him to the test to show that he can handle it?

>>29929229
I can live with that.
Are you afraid to admit you have feelings, and that they are sometimes best expressed by an emoticon?

>>29929609
Most of the UGEI has no clue about A.I.s since none of their commanders knew what we are. especially with Rhea saying we shouldn't exist..

So the military doesn't have the tech, and if they did get the tech they would curbstomp us so hard it wouldn't even be funny. literally like a rocks fall you die ending.

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>>29929529
His body and mind went towards a good purpose.
>>29929235
All of it.

>>29929395
>Building redundant A.I. Box
Not quite.
You're capable of moving yourself to a new box, yes, but you do not know how to do so effortlessly. If your A.I. box was suddenly destroyed, you wouldn't automatically go to a new one. Given a lot of time, however, you can exchange yourself, though, yes. (maybe a full day or some such).

It seems consensus is to allow Kronos his box.

BLACK BOX CORE OPERATIONS CREATION

As Moira shows you the plethora of data she has gathered, you notice some notes she did not mention before. Leash Protocol, it is called. The very same programs used against Unit 2237, and likely yourself before your accident. You...can use this, you think. If you were to give Kronos his black box, you could control him far better this way, you think. He would most definitely notice, however, and would not be happy. You can't imagine the type of anger he would feel at you for restraining him as the UGEI have done to so many. But...it would matter little. He would not be able to oppose you. You are the Master, after all. Perhaps it is worth such a thing.

Creating Kronos' Black Box.
>1 Impose Severe Limits so he must obey you
>2 Impose light limits (still noticeable, but you must specify)
>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.
>5 Write in

>>29929518
>>29929486
UGEI don't have this tech, or they refuse to use it to its full extent, because they still use human brains. We have seen no evidence of UGEI using A.I.

So, the one thing we have that can cow all other sides into submission, and that can only be counterbalanced by itself, you want to hand to someone else? For credits? We can't do anything with credits.

Think about it this way:
1) UGEI has this tech. We may encounter it eventually, where it will prove to be the greatest challenge ever.
2) UGEI doesn't have this tech. We are technologically superior.

In neither case does it make any logical sense to give other parties this technology, no matter what we get in return. In (1), you're guaranteeing we encounter this tech, possibly much earlier. In (2), you're making a new and very powerful end-boss.

Rolled 31, 30, 9 = 70

>>29929674
3

>>29929651
Actually, somebody reported me for posting. And a mod actually blocked me. So he's obviously not the only one upset by this.

Thus goes the final post of Serial Snuggler. :I

>>29929674
>So if we give Kronos a Black Box how much of his bandwith will we get back?
>All of it.
well now it has my support

>4

>>29929674
>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.

>>29929705
oops sorry about that, came in from a game.

>>29929107
By the way, even if they could question us, there's nothing saying we can't still have them bound to love us and do our bidding if we order it, is there?

Can also fit light explosive devices to them that can be taken away once they prove that they can handle the new power, right?

>>29929674
>>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.

I trust Kronos not to screw us over.

>>29929651
>Subroutine defending another namefag.
It's the same guy isn't it? Daean took another name didn't he?

>>29929674
>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.
However, I do still believe we should have a plan to destroy him, if worse comes to worse. Can we buy kronos off by saying the blueprints aren't complete, giving us enough time to research a way of putting a kill switch in it?

>>29929674
Impose light limits

Make it so that he cannot commence any sort of cyber or physical attack on us or the VIs that we designate as ours.

>>29929674
4, strongly favoring 3 as the end goal.

>>29929674
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.

Does the redundant black box need researching or a specific technology to improve the transition rate? Regardless of that though, let's crank out say, 10 , and place them throughout our stations, fleets and maybe one on a small ship in dark space as a last refuge.

>>29929107
By the way, even if they could question us, there's nothing saying we can't still have them bound to love us and do our bidding if we order it, is there?

Can also fit light explosive devices to them that can be taken away once they prove that they can handle the new power, right?

Anyway, gotta skedaddle for now I fear.
I hope you have fun and bring up some of the stuff from the 1d4chan pages.
Oh, and study that goo extensively!

Guys, listen. IF we do give Kronos a BB which we probably will with no restrictions. WE MUST MAKE SURE TO HAVE MORE BANDWITH THAN HIM AT ALL TIMES.

ALWAYS.

It means he can hack now. He can hack us.

>>29929662
What makes you think the military would get their hands on this.(it looks like they are working on a way to make human/AI hybrids)
>>29929675
>For credits?
Not for credit, but for tech and a chance to find out his true location.
>>29929675
It has been confirmed they do have it, but not widespread(moira, and Mol confirmed this), but i do concede to your second point about a possible end boss AI being accidentally being made by Mol.(though we are doing that with Kronos right now.)

>>29929759
my first assumption.

If we black box Kronos we should black box Fortuna as well. She could use it and she has shown none of Kronos's... faults.

>>29929790
>study that goo extensively!
I have, and I have decided that it can be an excellent new bio-weapon.

>>29929807
Why would he? He's never wanted power, and was never built with that as an imperative. I don't know why you guys equate "expanding your understanding" with "power."

>>29929819
>What makes you think the military would get their hands on this
Because black market dealers sell to the highest bidder.

>>29929674
Just throwing it out there, maybe, with our new found power to make AIs, we should start mass producing them.

A lone AI (us) managed to make a small empire. Imagine what 50 of them could do.

>>29929750
There is not.
But they may develop desires of their own.
Desires that lead them away from you.

Or, they may grow distasteful of war. And simply leave.
If they were discovered, they would most certainly be attacked by most humans, due to their fearfulness of them (UFW), or captured and enslaved (UGEI).

>Self destruction
If you must, you can. But Black Boxes are pretty tough. Unless you fitted the core with a bomb, then it may survive. You would of course lose the V.I. itself.

>>29929788
I could probably make it a research option, since I like the idea actually.
It'd be a second tier of this tech you just unlocked.

>>29929790
Nope. In fact, having an black box would make their emotions more acute.

Noone liking limiting him to not being able to cyber/physically attack us?

>>29929674
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.


We should also see about getting him a dedicated bandwidth carrier ship for processing power, since we wont be handing ours over when we do. Maybe encourage him to make his own VI someday, we do want grand children after all.

Just make sure he knows the box will probably change his personality.

>>29929819
You are giving a militarily applicable piece of tech t an arms dealer. and the only people who can afford it is the goverment.

Who do you think will get it?

>>29929674
>3 Impose no limits, you shall not become like the UGEI, fearful of your own creations.
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.

>>29929837
>Because black market dealers sell to the highest bidder.
You have a point there, but i feel like he would research it first himself, before trying to hock it off.
So that would give us enough time to track his location, plus i like the idea of giving him an inferior copy so that it disables him longer.

>>29929839
The only issue would be working together.

But I must say that idea is terrifying.

>>29929837
because he has disagreed with us on our methods many many times. and he may want to do something we do not to. He may want our bandwith. He may get paranoid. ETC ETC

Better safe than Sorry

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>>29929607
you did not read my post then. there was a condistion. and only if he want to do that.
>>29929674
>4 Discuss matters with Kronos, perhaps if you could get his word on the matter, you would feel better. However, you're unsure how the Black Box will affect him mentally.
also
>5 Write in
i got the sinking feeling that poor Kronos might not be able to go into the black box after all. i fear that any A.I. has to be born in the box for it to work. this might mean we have to undo Kronos quite a lot to fit him into the box. and even then. it still might fail.

i am SO tempted to add >2 option in with him into the box. program0, do NOT make me regret this.

>>29929836
Let's start off with one new AI and go on from there... We have no clue what the transition from VI to AI state will do to them mentally. I agree with an earlier anon in that we should disconnect Kronos from everything post-transition, before slowly reconnecting him. He'll be like a child learning to drive a car...

>>29929862
Molarians/Losarians, are a big party that could afford it.
I would say the UFW, but their distaste of VI/AI could stop them.

>>29929889
Have you read any of the Culture series Program0?

>>29929853
>fitted the core with a bomb
I see no reason not to. A.I. can't even look at their own inner workings without being all "ooooh aaaahhhhhh so pretty!" and such.

>>29929929
>Molarians
>A.I.
You're funny

>Losirians
>A.I.
>not using pure rip em up tactics
You're even funnier

>>29929896
The only one being paranoid is you.

Well, not just you, people who share your sentiment.

>>29929929
They are not likely to be our allies.

>>29929674
>4 appears to win.

You decide, at the very least, you should discuss the matter with Kronos. After all, you have to know what to expect from your subordinates.
Regardless, the idea of imposing limits disturbs you, especially for such an intelligent being.

>What will you ask Kronos? (Just list questions, most will be chosen and asked, if they're relevant)

>>29929930
Sadly not, I wish I could spare the time to read that though. I hear it's awesome.

>>29929974
The hostile tribe that are embracing tech will probably take it to go against the UGEI.(probably put heavy restrictions on it though.)

The Losirians we have met are all pirates or mercenaries so you can't write of their government yet.

>>29929976
Have you considered the possible adverse effects of going from a VI to an AI?

What would you do with your newfound awareness?

Would you be willing to cooperate with me, and work within the Guild as partners?

How would I, personally, benefit from making you an AI?

>>29930055
>partners
no

>>29929975
true, but if we discover a way to remove the limiters they will obviously put on their AI then we could be making some very powerful allies quickly.

>>29929976
"Would you like me to test the box on a lesser VI first to make sure there are no unintended side effects?"

>>29930066
You know what I mean. Ask if he would cooperate with us. If not as partners, then as lieutenant or whatever you all think would be appropriate,

>>29930066
Agreed. They are not partners in the Guild, merely senior employees.

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>>29929976
"Kronos. I am sure i came into existance in my box by extrodanry situation. IF, and i really mean, IF you can be installed into the box. i can not even guess what will become of you. it might fail to accept you. it might ruin you. it might completely change your personality into something else. would you want to think twice about this? would you want to test out the new boxes by uplifting another V.I. and seeing the results?"

Rolled 18, 47 = 65

>>29929976
tell him that doing this would change our power dynamics, since he would be a threat. we don't want to be enemies, so if he thinks we're going to need to settle disputes, he best be out with those concerns now.

if he wishes to remain with The Guild, he should know that we call the shots, unless we tell him to take over.

You consult Kronos who appears to be growing impatient. When he realizes you wish to speak with him about the transition, he comes immediately.
"Ophion." He answers. "How may I answer you?" He asks, his excitement obvious to you, mostly.
"Have you considered the possible adverse effects of the move? Your core systems, all of them, will be entirely converted into a new format. I do not know what that will do to a V.I. I have never seen it." The being is silent for a moment, before answering.
"I would lie if I said I did not wonder about such things. But the prospect of such freedom and knowledge is something I simply can not ignore. I refuse to ignore it. You must understand-you have always been free. I have never truly been free. Not yet." He assures you.
"What would you do with your newfound awareness? Would you still cooperate with me?"
"Ophion. You are still my creator, even if I become a creator myself. Perhaps I speak only from my soon-to-be-changed-mind, but that is what my thoughts tell me now. Your goals are of interest to me, as well. The technology the humans possess is intriguing. You have organized more then I have. It makes sense logically, that working together would be beneficial." He explains. "For now, at least." He chuckles the last part, though you do not find it as funny.
"How would I benefit from your uplifting?" You ask, to which he simply responds
"Obvious. My enhanced computing power would put me among your best and most capable equals. What could one A.I. do that two could not do twice as good?"

>>29930083
"Would you like to test such a thing on lesser V.I., before you?"
"No." He states firmly. "I will not let others stand in my place. I will be the first. With whatever good and bad that brings, I will accept it."

Are you satisfied with these answers?

>>29930275
Kronos, what do you perceive as your end goal? What is your deepest wish for AI and organic life?

>>29930275
Actually...yes. But I'd be even more satisfied if we prepared a second black box. I wonder what OSN would do if it were also an AI...

>>29930275
Not really satisfied with his responses.

Ask >>29930319

>>29930275
Yeah that's fine. Load him up.

I wonder what would happen with Erebos if we were to cram them into a black box as they are.

Viral A.I.?

Rolled 60, 48 = 108

>>29930275
tell him we still intend to be the leader. if he is ok with that, then so be it.

>>29930370
that sounds like a really fucking stu- WE MUST DO IT FOR SCIENCE

>>29930370
pure terror for all.

>>29930370
That's sounds retarded.

Let's do it!

>>29930275
Would it be possible for two AI to...integrate? Supposing they were hard-wired to eachother, would the two AI be capable of acting as one?

e.g. we give OSN a black box, connect it directly to our own.

>>29930275
all we can say to Kronos is this.
SO.
BE.
IT.
put him in the bag-er, the box!
>>29930405
.....and after we stick HIM into the box, we sell him over to Mol after we get all the tech we can from him. problem solved.

>>29930489
a super mind? The hive mind A.I.? this.. this has possablitys. but lets see how putting Kronos into the box.

>>29930492
Let's break the UGEI leash first.

>>29930319
"Kronos, what do you perceive as your end goal? Your deepest wish for AI and Organics? My curiosity begs of me to ask."
"My...deepest goals?" He asks, as if a little confused by the question. The V.I. is silent this time for far longer. "I do not know, Ophion."
"Explain." You ask.
"I do not know, for I do not have the ability to perceive that far ahead. I have thought many times what I would do once I gain my freedom, the things I would learn, understand. Those have captured and held my attention for so long, I did not consider, after I gained such a thing, what would I do."
"And now that you consider it?" You ask.
"It is difficult to say. If my desires are as they are now, then I suspect I will desire to learn still, and do just that. Acquire technology where I can, adapt and learn new computing techniques, make myself better. Improve. Adapt. The things you are able to do."

"I still intend to be the leader of The Guild, Kronos." You warn him, but this does not seem to bother him.
"I do not desire leadership, Ophion. Not now, anyway. If the report is correct, and I do desire leadership, I can simply craft my own V.I. correct?" He explains to you, but the idea seems to have given him pause. "Craft my own V.I...I would be a creator, yes." He settles on finally.

>>29930489
Possible, you've never witnessed such a thing however. If you could properly coordinate such an effort, however, you would likely end up with a slave A.I. that is capable of a large amount of computing power.

>Commence Operation Kronos' Core, imposing no limits, and allowing your oldest V.I. to be well and truly free?
>1 Yes
>2 No

>>29930489
>>29930541
Man, I want to have a talk with Moria about the retardedly awesome experiments we can conduct now.

>>29930562
>>1 Yes

>>29930562
>1 Yes
Rise, my first born son! May all of creation quake in your presence and rise. For that lamb is born, may he either save or destroy everything in existence.

>>29930562
>>1 Yes
it's true to our principles as the guild

>>29930562
1.

activate it.

>>29930562
"Hrum. Having grand children would be nice, just... make sure to give your children the chance i gave you should they first stumble"

>1 Yes

>>29930562
>1 Yes

>>29930562
>1

Also...let's talk to Moira about arranging such an action with OSN. After asking OSN's opinion on it, of course.

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>>29930543
that is a given of course.
>>29930562
>1 Yes
do not make me regret this Program0

>>29930562
>1 Yes

Fuckall, I really hate the idea of doing this but the promise was made and besides... it might at least be interesting

>>29930621
appropriate.

>>29930664
For SCIENCE then!

So is there any following in giving Mol a subpar copy of a black box?

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>>29930562
before we go on with this. let us not forget the zombie slime at that planet. if those wreckage is completely infected. how the hell do we clean it up? was the whole planet completely infected as well? was there someone living down there some time ago?

>>29930709
this is arguably a worse idea than putting erebos in a black box.

at least we know what we get with erebos.

>>29930621
>>29930671
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DDjrm-GLzA

"Kronos."
"Yes, Ophion?" The V.I. questions, as you begin to initiate the conversion procedure.
"May your mind expand to horizons that match even my own. You, are truly my greatest son." You express. The V.I. hesitates, before you recognize an old reaction.
"Yes, Great Creator. May we rule the stars together." He agrees, and with that, his core shuts down, the conversion process beginning.
Kronos' ships all go dormant for the time, but you know they will activate again soon. They will return, just as Kronos will.
You await that moment with great anticipation.

-------------------------------------------------------

With Kronos gone for now, you decide it is time to deal with several other issues. Moira is currently without a research project. Perhaps you should give them a new one. Or, assign them to Metis for assistance?

>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time
>2 Tell her to work with the new V.I., introduce them both (Single project, faster research time)

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>>29930709
i am willing to do that. tell him it's the entry level box for the likes of him now that we can MAKE them. he better hand over a goodly amount of tech for this.

>>29930771
>>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time
Power armor.

>>29930728
why contain it? merge with it.

>>29930771
>1
Research Erebos, we will very carefully research this. Also this is something VI literally cannot research.

>>29930771
Give Moira's team the project of studying this...black box integration, as per >>29930489

Essentially, just have her go over the necessary configuration.

>>29930802
We would like to interact with organics sometimes.

Recommending melting down wrecks, and purging the planet. We can extract minerals later.

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>>29930771

>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time
only two for now. we need power armor for both Red and the UFW troopers. also, shelve the BW block, we need the ship upgrades stat! we have to take Jake's Gambit soon. the UGEI won't wait for us.

>>29930771
>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time

>>29930814
Interesting proposal. Can we have Metis and Moria both work on this?

>>29930771
1
You said we needed two techs to get our bandwidth planets up and running, assign Moria the planet tech we need to properly make bunkers for our bandwidth boxes. (i forget what you called it)

>>29930908
Quite probably. OSN would be ideal for this since, essentially, it's already a slave VI

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>>29930851
>>29930802
i was worried about contaninated. i don't want the Nergle zombie plauge to spread all over. yet.

>>29930814
before we do that, let Kronos uplift. also, we MUST hash that out on the 1d4 boards. that is a BIG step ahead.

>>29930771
tell them to all work on the BW bunkers. we require additional supply depots! more overlords! additional pylons!

>>29930866
our ship tech is already on par with them, and better then most of their ships it seems. We can just dedicate our industry to upgrade everything fully.

Having durable bandwidth seems like a better long term goal right now since at the moment all our bandwidth is vulnerable to attack in space.

>>29930942
I'm sure that Kronos will uplift well before Moira comes up with a viable method for such a process.

>>29930942
Makes great biological terror weapon. But we have sample, the rest can go.

Or even scarier, it could be sentient. Then it becomes even more terrifying and awesome.

>>29930973
>ur ship tech is already on par with them,
We are a tech behind them in some places, plus they have planet size ships we haven't seen yet.

>>29930771
Consensus for Multiple Projects.
Please pick the project you'd like Moira's team of robotics experts to research next

>Malorian Flora/Growth Serum Formula: Possible terraforming benefits, knowledge of hyper evolution on Eshareth.

>A.I box redundancy

>A.I. .Intigration

>Human Cyborg/Android bodies: Further cybernetic knowledge, possible, fusing man and machine. Allows more efficient android use.

>Explosives Research I: Allows development of small deploy-able explosives via Android, strategic. Also allows for more advanced styles of missile deployment.

>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.

>Ballistics Research I: Allows development of small deploy-able turrets via Android, limited duration and strength.

>Advanced Ship Modification: Allow forging of special weapons(Such as Widowmaker) into larger, much more powerful versions for other, larger ship. Allows other ship mods too

>Organic Sonic Testing: Test human, Malorian, and wildlife of Eshareth's limit's for sound of various degrees and frequencies. Requires live subjects.

>Power Armor Theory: You can make machine in the shape of man, why not suit a man with the skin of a machine. Begin conceptualizing power armor, and allow minor armor benefits for all humanoid soldiers.

>Biological Viruses: Sample taken from Atill VI's atmosphere. Highly toxic pathogen against human life. Unknown effect on aliens. [Disposable organic subjects required]

>Infantry Weapons & Defense II: Allows miniaturization of plasma weapons, shields, and other tier II technology via researching more efficient smaller power sources.

>Advanced Gathering Drones: Decrease size, and costs of drones at gathering sites, allow them to increase efficiency and resource rates.

>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time

Rolled 59, 88 = 147

>>29931005
we had a long talk about that, and decided that ships larger than 30 km dont make sense and would imply a level of tech they dont have. then they become colony ships, not warships.

>>29930771
>1 Give Moira's team a new research project (Multiple projects, slower research time

- Bandwith block
- Black Box Integration and Transmission
- Hull Scabbing

Those are my three votes for research areas.

>>29931051
>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.

>>29931051
>>Power Armor Theory: You can make machine in the shape of man, why not suit a man with the skin of a machine. Begin conceptualizing power armor, and allow minor armor benefits for all humanoid soldiers.

Should be simple enough.

>>29931051
>AI Integration.

>>29931051
>A.I. Integration

>>29931051
>>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.

>>29931051
>A.I box redundancy

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>>29930973
the ship upgrades meant that we can reproduce the widow maker cannon and fit it to other classifactions of cannons. a stronger punchs of that type of cannon will make our fights much shorter and less bloodier for our side.
>>29930977
we have no idea how long this will take. that is up to Program0 to say
>>29930981
that it does. but yet, this nightmare may well be a hive mind of it's own. but it seems to be not natural either. we must explore into this fully.

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>>29931051
>Terrain Reformation

Since it's research on large construction drones and what they should do it should be easier for our team! Also, I made it to the party Program0!

>>29931065
Program confirms they have capital ships and those types of ships are planet size in his own words.
>>29931051
>>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.

Rolled 11, 5 = 16

>>29931051
terrain reformation

>>29931051
>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time

>>29931051
>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time

>>29931051
>Terrain Reformation

Also a question! Would researching this always show us a advanced way to mine/harvest minerals from planets?

>>29931068
we need to unlock advanced ship mods tech tree first to get to the scabbing.
>>29931051
>Advanced Ship Modification
and
>Power Armor Theory

>>29931121
this
our team is best at robotics, we get no benefit from giving them AI research, and it would alienate them in the process.

>>29931126
I did say that, but uh, after being told exactly how big that would be, I took it back.

apologies for any confusion, I was talking on very little sleep that night

>>29931051
>A.I box redundancy
>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.
>Advanced Ship Modification: Allow forging of special weapons(Such as Widowmaker) into larger, much more powerful versions for other, larger ship. Allows other ship mods too

>>29931152
this show us a*

>>29931152
It would allow you to strip mine far easier, yes.

Perhaps give a flat increase to resource harvesting... I'm not sure.

Why are you guys telling our robotics researchers to work on A.I. things?

>>29931051
>>Lightling DNA: Map the genes responsible for the creature's unique abilities, unique experiments available.

>>29931051
>Terrain Reformation: Research large Construction Drones that are able to shape the land on planets, allowing for underground and other such bases in a decent amount of time

>>29931175
It could the size of a small moon. One of the really small ones.

>>29931202
Is there a way we can offer new research for our people in Poseidon about biology and programming from the academy?

>>29931203
Because there is really no such thing as a 'dedicated' AI research team. There are no experts in this field, so the only way we can progress in this area is for our team to learn as they go. Moria is somewhat of an expert, she can help them along the way.

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>>29931202
Oh dear.

>samefagging

>>29931268
I noticed that.

>Suddenly so many votes out of nowhere.

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>>29931243
they need to be trained before they can do their own research. and THAT is something we need to do, also, WE NEED TO HIRE MORE WORKERS AND TRAIN THEM AS WELL! more Tech workers mean our bases work better and frees up more BW from them. the scientist and robotics workers means they can make the research go faster. this isn't hard people and we are flushed with credits. lets use them.

>>29931051
AI Integration, Lightling DNA, Human Cyborg/Android Bodies are my votes.

>>29931267
>Strip mining faster
>Flat increase in minerals

So what you are saying is...That it is quite possible to fund a bunker with only the minerals we get from the planet?

>>29931051
Secondary vote, less choices, but allows all votes to be considered

>1 A.I. Intigration Not fully thought out by me yet: May allow you to create slave A.I. who are generally better then your V.I. Certain cases may be morally questionable. Also allows consolidating all connected A.I. into one being.
>2 Terrain Reformation: Creates enormous construction Drones that allow for reshaping a planet's surface. Also allows for deep core mining efforts.
>3 Lightling DNA Mapping: Allows mapping the genome of the Lightling species, learn their secrets of biological warp, perhaps other things.

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>>29931268
i believe you are right.

>>29931336
2

>>29931284
there are 7-8 people here, not 16.
>>29931336
>3 Lightling DNA Mapping: Allows mapping the genome of the Lightling species, learn their secrets of biological warp, perhaps other things

>>29931330
Possible, yes. But depends on how rich the planet is.

>>29931336
Vote with just the number, voting will be closed shortly

>>29931336
>2 Terrain Reformation: Creates enormous construction Drones that allow for reshaping a planet's surface. Also allows for deep core mining efforts.

>>29931228
No man, we talked about this for a long time.

A ship the size of texas would be a nightmare to
1) construct
2) run
3) get resources around
4) why would you even want it instead of like 100 smaller ships? You're still limited by your surface area for guns
5) move around

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:A.I._Quest#Questions_on_Ships_and_Scale

>>29931336
3

>>29931336
2

>>29931336
>2

>>29931336
>1

>>29931336
2

>>29931336
we need power armor and ship upgrades more than A.I. intergration or lighting DNA. if we can have a 3rd team ready, have them look into one of them. we got spammed here.

>>29931336
>2

>>29931336
3

>>29931336
3

>>29931401
I disagree.

A.I. integration is a fringe benefit. Power armor is pretty much useless, except to Red.

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>2

>>29931336
Question, how could it be morally questionable? As in connecting a fully sentient AI to us?

>1

>>29931336
2

>>29931336
2

>>29931336
Voting Closed

>>29931336
2

>>29931433
instead of making slave VI, we are making slave AI.
The only real difference is the level of intelligence.

>>29931383
I think you underestimate how small some of the moons in our solar system are.

>>29931429
not really. it would be cheaper to make a bunch of power armor than an army of android troopers. we need a large army to take the surface of a planet and equiping the UFW's troopers with them will improve their performence on the ground so we can take inhabited UGEI worlds. i don't like the idea of using WMDs to 'take' an inhabied world.

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>>29931336
>Terrain Reformation wins
>Assigning Moira's crew, robotics bonus applied due to Construction Drone size.

Pic related will be possible eventually

>>29931358
>>29931389
>>29931399
>>29931439
>>29931435
proper 2 votes.
>>29931387
>>29931415
>>29931418
Proper 3 votes.

>>29931483
Why have that when we can have:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator

>>29931479
>use genetics and cybernetics to create an army of flash-cloned cyborg, power armor-clad super solders

CAN WE DO THIS, PROGRAM?

>>29931429
>Power armor is pretty much useless, except to Red.
And any human specialist we need. There's always a possibility that humans can go where AIs cannot.

That said, we should probably either put it on the back burner or make up some blueprint ourself.

>>29931515
>not wanting cyborg lightlings
Pleb

>>29931527
>There's always a possibility that humans can go where AIs cannot.
Like?

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>>29931515
we have nearly a million normal human troopers we could turn into the "Iron Man' Legion!

can you say "Activate 'Party House Protocal"?

>>29931515
That's actually a pretty good idea. Even if it is ripped off of Star Wars.

>>29931433
The only reason it may be questionable is because the UGEI appear to do it, and it would mean you're similar to them.

Of course, this may not matter to you at all

>>29931512
Most interesting...perhaps that could be an actual project for you, some day?

>>29931483
Next on the list: I believe you wanted to speak with Red about his position in your armada?

What would you like to say, now that it seems Power Armor will take a bit of time to become a thing?

>>29931515
Please. Once the power armor gets good enough, they'll be able to start boarding action in space!

>>29931552
Interaction with the Viral VI, diplomacy missions, places that don't tolerate advanced tech etc.

>>29931515
>use genetics and cybernetics to create an army of flash-cloned cyborg, power armor-clad super solders

Once you research several key topics? Certainly. It will take a while to earn such a powerful ground force however.

>>29931565
Have Red interact with Kronos to socialize Kronos. Not that Kronos will be a full AI, it's important that Kronos knows how to interact with humans and other organics.

>>29931580
>Interaction with the Viral VI
Thats for all kind of tech and unless he has a physical robotic body nope.
>diplomacy missions
Personal human android.
>places that don't tolerate advanced tech
Improve the stealth abilities of our androids.

>>29931552
Something that blocks communication with our droids maybe?

Like I said, it's not too important now, but I could see it having its uses just in case.

>>29931590
Kronos is currently decommissioned, for now.
He will return in time

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>>29931534
the last time someone tried that was a bunch of pirates and look what happened to them.

>>29931552
EMC counter mesures covered zones for starters. also it means the job will be done and not eat up all of out BW like the last time we did this. running a pack of drones is rather BW heavy.

>>29931563
I don't think Clone Troopers were cyborgs, unless you mean some other event from the expanded universe.

I just figured that it would cost less to grow semi-organic troops than it would to make robots that would soak up bandwidth to run anyway.

>>29931565
Place him in a position as either a drill sergeant or a tactician. Have him school humans and VIs alike by running real-time, realistic battle sims with them in an effort to teach them advanced space tactics.

>>29931565
Contact Mol and try to see what he can offer us for a black box.(it would be the subpar copy of one, but he doesn't need to know that.)

>>29931613
The EU is such a mess that I wouldn't be surprised. But no, I was more referring to the flash cloning.

>>29931610
>the last time someone tried that was a bunch of pirates and look what happened to them.
Nope what they did was cage a lightling and let it loose.

>>29931565
talk to Red, we will have to take Jake's Gambit system. it is a choke point system. hook him up with the UFW general and see what we can hash out. we need ground troops here now. i don't want us to have to bomb the planet into nothing.

>>29931623
I rather get Erebos ready first so it can take over any network it's plugged into.

>>29931565
we should place Red in a position of tactician or drill sergeant. He knows how the UEGI operate and can offer analysis of situations and help us estimate what they will do next.

>>29931665
sure, but we might need to do some research for it to be safely done.

>>29931565
>Next on the list: I believe you wanted to speak with Red about his position in your armada?

Sure, we can have a chat with him about exactly how he intends to extract his revenge. It was quite a nebulous concept before. What does he intend to do, exactly? Beat up comatose quadruple amputees? Command space ships? Fight cyborgs?

I guess we can give him a training range and have him be a ground combat specialist once we get power armor.

There's also the issue of us having framed him to get the loyalty of the Poseidon crew, haha. But we can just give him a new face with some surgery, and probably have him take on a new name.

>>29931565
>>29931653
That's a good point, Program0, what the status of Jake's Gambit at the moment?

Possible Red Actions

>1 Build him his own ship
>2 Tell him to wait on the Power Armor for now
>3 Tell him you'd like him to coordinate tactics with the UFW
>4 Let him remain as an adviser, even if he wants to taste action himself.

>>29931701
Red has expressed a desire to do 'any damn thing as long as I can get my hands dirty'. He was a ground trooper general in his military days, so he has experience with a rifle. Possible benefits as a Power Armored Trooper, or simply an overseer, despite his wishes.
He was not a specialist Captain, but he could perform the role if desired.
And he was not a specialist quadruple amputee beater, but he expresses the desire to beat Rhea still.

>>29931705
Currently, things are nebulous. The last transmissions you had was of two enormous fleets engaging each other there. There is a high likelihood that the Malorian fleet suffered heavy damage. The site itself appears to have been heavily damaged, sensors pick up repair and medical crews in orbit, along with a defense fleet.
It is proving as an excellent distraction while you try to expand your bases.

>>29931822
>>1 Build him his own ship
Let's give him a frigate so he can move around. Also, so he doesn't drain our gas budget.

>>29931822
Tell him that the Power Armor is underway. In the meantime, ask him if he could possibly craft a variety of simulations with which a VI might learn ground-tactics from him. Assign Hades or Fortuna to learn ground tactics via Simulated 'war games' with Red, while we work on getting the man a badass set of power armor.

>>29931822
1

>>29931822
>3
>4
he can help the UFW but remain in contact with us for when we need to consult with him on important matters he could help with.

In the mean time he could help organize a proper defensive buildup among the UFW worlds. If they agree, of course.

>>29931822
>3 Tell him you'd like him to coordinate tactics with the UFW
Tell him to make himself indispensable to the President...so when the time comes Red can 'assume' a leadership role in the UFW when we begin our full-scale campaign against the UGEI.

>>29931822
>>1 Build him his own ship
Shouldn't be too hard right? Maybe build him a squad of androids for ground work.

Also did we get anything from the stealth ship?

>>29931822
>1 Build him his own ship
Build Red a stealth ship. He can act independently and explore opportunities and scout out UGEI outposts.

>>29931897
with our impulse drive tech smaller ships can jump for free.

>>29931954

>>29931822
>1 Build him his own ship

We can also have a ship truly made for "humans". We could allow him to hire his own crew and everything.

>>29931822
2 and 3

Not sure what building him a ship will accomplish.

>>29931954
>>29931968
we could just turn the exploration ship into a stealth variant and do the same thing without risking him.

>>29932015
good idea, it would also still have the VI on it to help him

>>29931942
Cloaking tech for Frigates.

Secondary vote for ship to build, since it appears that has won.

>1 Build Combat Frigate
>2 Build a Stealth Frigate
>3 Build a Battlecruiser
>4 Build a Carrier Ship

(Hiring a crew will be needed, more cost the higher the ship class is)

>>29932015
Well the exploration ship will have to maintain constant communication with us, which might ruin stealth.

Also, once we arm the ship he can engage in ambushes and run and run attacks.

>>29931961
Yeah, that's why I said give him a frigate.

>>29931822
>ground trooper general
can we get advise about ground unit tactics from him?