http://strawpoll.me/1062879

http://strawpoll.me/1062885

You stand on Kami's Lookout, Selri and Collie the only ones with you, each of them sitting down, and looking to be in very bad shape. Kami and Mr. Popo are somewhere on the Lookout, but everyone else has travelled to Mars via instant transmission.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29729222
Nice timing SOM
>B IT the girls to Fita's parents

>>29729174
All the girls are basically equal, except Bulma. Bulma is very much for Vegeta.

All the kids SHOULD be equal, but Bardock was the first, and inherited the greatest portion of Frank's protective instincts.

>>29729222
>A
"Before we go, I had another of my stupid visions last night. I saw it all... and I was sick. So please be careful with the details, for your mothers' and siblings' sakes."
>B
Take the twins to Mars.

>>29729325
This.

>>29729325
Agreed.

>>29729242
>>29729325
>>29729340
>>29729438

"Before we go, I had another of my stupid visions last night" you tell them. "I saw it all...and I was sick. So, please be careful with the details, for your mothers' and siblings' sakes."

"Alright dad" Selri tells you.

"We'll try" Collie promises.

You grab the two of them and teleport to Mars using instant transmission. Collie leans against you on arrival and Selri falls to the ground, sitting and looking around. Your younger children are napping, while the older kids and the adults are standing around talking. Most of them look towards you when you appear, though Bulma and Spina are busy trying to calm down Chi Chi, who keeps looking at Fita's parents with a frightened expression.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29729459
>B Tell Fita's parents to see if the girls are wounded

>>29729459
You know, I'm kind of surprised chi-chi's powerlevel is 1000. That's like, around radtiz level in DBZ, and if I'm not mistaken she's still younger.

>>29729174
I personally feel that I like Fita the most, although when it comes to children it feels a little wrong to play favorites

>>29729525
Going with this one, then?

>>29729525
You tell Fita's parents to see if the twins are wounded. They approach and examine them for several minutes.

"They have each lost a lot of blood" the male says. "They also suffer from internal injuries."

"Selri's right leg is shattered" the female tells you. "They both require medical attention."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29729801
>A Treat them with as much care as possible

>>29729897
Eyup.

>>29729956
>>29729897
"Treat them with as much care as possible" you instruct.

"Of course, my lord" the male tells you. "We shall do as you say."

"They will be alright" the female assures you. "Rest easy."

With that, the pair pick up the twins and gently carry them away. A few moments later, a floating black ball enters the room. It slowly floats towards you, and suddenly, a blue light shines from it onto you.

"Identity confirmed" it declares. "Greetings, Lord Frank. I am MGS-07. I have been sent by Lord Arey."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29730088
>A Hello, and what have you been sent for?

>>29730088
>A.
"Does this mean the balls are ready?"

>>29730155
>>29730132
"Hello, and what have you been sent for?" you ask.

"Lord Arey requested that I bring you to him" MSG-07 replies. "He says he has a matter of some importance to discuss with you."

"Does this mean the balls are ready?" you ask.

"I do not know what you are referring to, lord Frank" he responds. "I am simply carrying out the instructions I was given. Would you please follow me?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29730309
>A
It might be important, but we've got a major crisis going on here. Will he cause the deaths of untold billions if he waits?

>>29730309
>B Go with him

>>29730359
>>29730417
Vote

>>29730417
Seconded.

>>29730417
>>29730432
You tell him that you will follow.

"Excellent" he replies, turning and floating off, you walking close behind.

He leads you down a series of hallways, before eventually you reach a small room containing two beds, Arey, and Nail.

"If you require anything else, please, do not hesitate to ask" MSG-07 says before departing.

Nail shuts the door as soon as the floating ball leaves, and Arey rises from his bed.

"Welcome" Arey greets. "I have called you here with important news. I have completed the Dragon Balls."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29730577
>A.
"Do you know what their limitations are?"

>>29730577
>A Great, can they be used immediately?

>>29730577
Hey SOM, I gotta go study, but I'll be back later

>>29730700
Later Anime

>>29730607
>>29730620
"Great, can they be used immediately?" you ask.

He nods "Yes, they can."

"Do you know what their limitations are?" you ask.

"Well, for one thing, they take one Martian year to recharge" he informs you. "This is equal to roughly two Earth years. One advantage to this long recharge time, is that the Dragon can grant multiple, powerful wishes. You can make up to four wishes on this Dragon, including wishing large groups of people back. However, the Dragon can not kill, nor can it transport someone against their will, force someone to fall in love, or revive anybody who has been dead for more than one Martian year, though it can revive people as many times as necessary."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29730805
>no killing
>no forced love
>no reviving people dead for more than a Martian year
In tonight's thread, the part of the Martian Dragon will be played by Robin Williams.

>>29730805
>A

"Is it red?"

>>29730805
>A
"What is the dragon's name?"

>>29730907
>>29730936
"What is the Dragon's name?" you ask.

"Dramar" he replies. "To summon him, you must gather all seven balls and utter the phrase "Dramar, we call on you to aid us with your power!" He will then appear and grant your wishes."

"Is it red?" you ask.

"Yes" Arey replies.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

Let's wish for our zenkai to have a double effect

>>29731024
>A
"Excellent. So we can give his inaugural wish as soon as 16 is dead."

>>29731090
"Excellent" you tell him. "So we can give him his inaugural wish as soon as 16 is dead."

He nods. "Indeed. I'm sorry to be rude, but, would you please leave for right now? I am tired and need some rest."

>A. Leave and go back to the main room

>B. Leave and explore the building

>C. Something else

>>29731207
>A

>>29731207
>A. Leave and go back to the main room

"Good news everyone! The mars dragonballs are ready for use!"

>>29731255
>>29731322
You do as he asks and leave, Nail shutting the door once more when you are gone. Walking down a few halls, you return to the main room.

"Good news everyone" you say. "The Mars Dragon Balls are ready for use!"

"That's excellent news" Salta says.

You notice that only a few members of the group are still here. Salta, Raditz, Onia, and Fita are the only ones still in the room.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29731398
>A.
"Where's everyone else?"

>>29731426
Seconded

>>29731426
>>29731456
"Where's everyone else?" you ask.

"The kids are napping, Spina took Fluffy outside, Vegeta and Bulma are talking with Fita's parents, 17 and 18 went for a walk, Chi Chi is outside with Fita, and Nappa is looking for a training room" Salta tells you.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29731554
Gotta be a training room here somewhere. Hey, did anyone grab the senzus? Throw 1 Fitas parents way. I wanna see mars bristling with senzus!

>>29731554
>A
"I was thinking those of us who could use instant transmission could go back and train... the kids should probably stay here."

>>29731595
I dunno, I'd ask Korrin for permission and advice first.

>>29731554
Let's go find a room to train in.

>>29731595
>>29731869
>>29731871
Vote

>>29731871
I'm back
Let's find a training room

>>29732000
Voting >>29731869

>>29731869
>>29731871
>>29732052
>>29732053
Deadlock

>>29732151
Voting >>29731869

Again. We can set a guard with an advanced scouter on a rotation, and retire to Mars for the nights.

>>29730805
huh, guys. what would you say about making earth immune to ki attacks? that would drasticaly reduce the chance of it blowing up again when we fight something big... also. we could wish for a truly indestructible ki proof room. so w e can try the limits of our destructive power

>>29732151
Can we IT to Korin and ask his permission/advice real quick and then go train?

>>29732539
I think this is the best thing to do

>>29732524
If som would allow it. We should do it.

Also can we wish for knowledge? Or for others to gain knowledge?

>>29732539
>>29732257
>>29732052
>>29731871
>>29731869
>>29731595
Vote

>>29731869
this one

>>29732698
This>>29732539 A quick detour wont lose us anything

>>29732718
Seconded.

>>29732524
So
>revive everyone killed by android 16
>make the earth indestructible
>wish for a power up for the whole pack
Fourth one is open... maybe leave it for someone else? Maybe give it to Bardock or Goku.

>>29732769
Oh wait, just had an idea for the fourth
>repair all the damage caused by the evil androids

>>29732739
seconding

>>29732825
>>29732752
>>29732739
>>29732576
>>29731871
You decide to go and search for a room to train in. Wandering the halls of the large building, you eventually find an irate looking Nappa standing in front of a half constructed training room.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29732895
>A Want me to take us to the lookout?

>>29732895
>A.
"Looking for training too, huh?..We could use a gravity machine, but those aren't that great."

>>29732769
woud'nt say indestructible, just imune to ki attacks. indestructible would fuck up the mining industry, and building cellars, and farming. yes, still someone could punch it to death, but that is way harder to pull off then a stray ki blast

>>29733050
Indeed. You have to be really really careful with the wording of a wish

>>29733050
>>29733069

Sure, so
>Power up for the whole party (2x base power?)
>Earth's unable to blow up due to ki attacks
>Everyone the androids killed directly or indirectly is revived
>All damage made by the androids is repaired.

>>29733089
yup
or alternatively
>The bitches
>Immortality
>18's panties
>4x base power increase for frank
just kidding, please don't take this seriously

>>29733150
Anime...
I've never laughed so hard.

>>29733089
yeah, that seems pretty good.

word change though

>Earth is invulnerable to ki attacks.

>>29733150
God dammit Anime I cant laugh that loud Ill scare my neighbors.

>>29732953
>>29732963
"Looking for training too, huh? We could use a gravity machine, but those aren't that great" you tell him.

He growls. "It's ridiculous. This is supposed to become the capital of the New Saiyan Empire, and they don't even have anything for Saiyans to train with!"

"Want me to take us to the Lookout?" you ask.

He nods. "Get me off this planet!"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29733317
>B IT to Kami
>A You can go on ahead, I'm gonna go talk to korin

>>29733317
>A. Tell Fita's parents to work on some facilities for hardcore training
>B. Take Nappa to earth.
>B. Go back to make the wishes (the power one first, so we go back to take Android 16 on a wastelandwhile the others wish everything back)

>>29733317
>B.
Warp to the lookout with Nappa.

>>29733336
>>29733338
>>29733347
You grab Nappa, and teleport the two of you to Kami's Lookout. Nappa walks off immediately towards the Red Room.

>A. Talk to Kami

>B. Talk to Korin

>C. Talk to Popo

>D. Back to Mars

>E. Something else

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>>29733369
>B

>>29733369
>B
hopefully we can get this out of the way

>>29733392
>>29733412
While Nappa goes off to train, you teleport to Korin's Tower, where the cat is sitting with his back turned to you.

"Oh, look who it is" he says. "What do you want?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29733499
>A To plant your beans on mars so we can have a whole bunch of them!

>>29733499
>A.
"So there are Dragon Balls on Mars now. Would you mind if I used one of the wishes with them to speed up your Senzu growing process?"

>>29733499
>A. What is your opinion on trying to grown Senzu beans on mars. As many of them as possible? As well as giving one to Fitas's parents to study and hopefully replicate.
this too >>29733572

>>29733567
>>29733572
>>29733587
"So, there are Dragon Balls on Mars now" you tell him. "Would you mind if I used one of the wishes with them to speed up your Senzu growing process? And what is your opinion of trying to grow some on Mars, as many as possible? We could even give one to Fita's parents to study and replicate."

"Hmm...so I let you grow beans on Mars, and you wish for my beans to grow faster?" he asks. "Sounds like a fair trade to me."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29733641
Wow... Well that was way easier than I was expecting.

>A. Well good. Is there anything we should be aware of? Such as potential drawbacks or unexpected consequences?

>>29733671
this

>>29733641
>A.
"It'll be a while before I use the balls, so I'll ask for some bean seeds or whatever after I do."

>>29733641
Woo! Tell you what, for being so cool about this, I'll even get you a robo buttler. I'll be back as soon as I can with it!

So that's 1 wish down. We need to take 2 beans to mars. 1 for planting(ask for growing tips) and 1 for research!!

>>29733697
Agreed.

Actually, do we know how many wishes we get from the Mars DB's?

>>29733718
see>>29730805

>>29733718
Arey told us earlier, 4.

>>29733718
4 high powered wishes? Takes 2 earth years to recharge.

>>29733641
After we make the wishes, we really should be careful with the Senzu Bean production. It could really help us build the New Saiyan Empire but it could be catastrophic in the wrong hands.
I kind of feel like I might be contradicting myself

>>29733743
>>29733737
>>29733734
>>29733718
So it was suggested
>Power up for the whole party, to fight A16
>Earth's invulnerable to ki attacks
>Everyone the androids killed directly or indirectly is revived
>All damage made by the androids is repaired.

Which one would we replace?

>>29733826
We can TRY to combine the Android Death/Destruction, but if not then I think we should replace the power up. They never had to do it, save a power refill, in the series, so we shouldn't have to either.

>>29733808
>inb4 sentient Senzu Man evolves and goes on a people eating rampage as revenge for his consumed bretheren.

>>29733826
Well frankly the actual damage made by the androids isnt that big of an issues. So if we cant combine Android Death/Destruction we should drop
>All damage made by the androids is repaired.

We can always rebuild cities

>>29733861
That will only happen if we try to cross pollinate Senzu Beans with Saiba-men...

Wait, that sounds pretty fucking cool.

>>29733671
>>29733697
>>29733677
>>29733718

"Well, good. Tell you what, for being so cool about this, I'll get you a robotic butler" you tell him. "I'll be back as soon as I can with it!"

"This keeps getting better and better" Korin says. "Make sure he knows how to give belly rubs."

"Alright. So, is there anything we should be aware of?" you ask. "Such as potential drawbacks or unexpected consequences?"

"Well, don't eat too many at once or you will majorly bloat" he tells you. "And an all senzu bean diet causes lactation."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29733987
A.

...you're kidding, right?

Oh godamnnit, you're not. Can't keep getting my ass kicked...

>>29733987
>A Umm, okay too much information...
>B Take the senzu, IT to mars and plant the senzu, give some to Fita's parents for research

>>29733987
HA!

seconding this>>29734084

>>29734084
this

>>29733987
wat... eh.. ok. thx for the tip
B IT to the lookout, join nappa in training, use the opportunity to talk to him a bit. the guy seems to have something on his mind that makes him angrier than usual

>>29734051
>>29734084
>>29734147
>>29734153
>>29734156

"....you're kidding, right?" you ask.

He just stares at you seriously.

"Oh goddamnit, you're not. Ugh, too much information. Well, I guess I can't keep getting my ass kicked" you comment.

Korin tosses you a small pouch of beans. "Remember our deal, kid."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29733826
we can only wish for it after the destruction of 16, otherwise he would imediatly start killing people as soon as they respawn

>>29734166
Get your ass to mars!!

>>29734166
>A Of course, I wouldn't lie Korin
>B >>29734084

>>29734166
A. Start turning Nappa into a Senzu bean farmer, and get him on that diet.

>>29734166
>A. Implying I'm a kid.
Then this >>29734196

>>29734183
>wish for power up
>IT to 16
>IT him to a wasteland
>others finish doing the wishes while we kill him

>>29734225
Seconding.

>>29734166
Hey SOM, can the dragon grant power-ups?
If so, up to what point?
And if we wished for immortality, would it put us in a bad light?

>>29734283
>>29734263
>>29734225
>>29734210
>>29734196
>>29734156
>>29734153
>>29734084
>>29734147
"Of course" you tell him, using your Instant Transmission to travel to Mars.

You find yourself in the main room again, 18 standing boredly in a corner, leaning against the wall, Fita sitting around and reading a book, and Chi Chi sitting by herself dejectedly.

>A. Take the beans to Fita's parents

>B. Talk to 18

>C. Talk to Fita

>D. Talk to Chi Chi

>E. Something else

>>29734326
>if we wished for immortality
We'll end up singing this sooner or later.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE

If we're really unlucky, we'll do it screaming in pain, or a black hole.

>>29734353
>D
ur husbandos are ded lel

>>29734326
He won't be able to give you much of a power boost and many of the others would see it as cowardly as you wished for immortality.

>>29734353
>A.

>>29734353
>A

>>29734353
>A. Take the beans to Fita's parents


>>29734400
Do you mean both would be considered cowardly?

>>29734400
Guess that idea's out then

>>29734353
>D, comfort her a bit, then >B, then >A

sian ewsSuf

>>29734353
A, then train with wifes and vegeta till we puke, tinse, repeat till we can take 16. then get him and punch him a new robotic asshole, then dragon time

>>29734433
No, sorry, meant to type "if"

>>29734353
May as well take the beans and drop them off. And ask for korins robot.

>>29734458
>>29734433
>>29734424
>>29734410
You take the beans and head for the lab, where you find Fita's parents watching over Selri and Collie, who are healing in rejuvenation chambers. They turn as you approach.

"Greetings, my lord" the male tells you. "We have done as you instructed."

"They will fully recover" the female assures you. "You have nothing to worry about."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29734582
>B.
Hand them two beans.
>A.
"I'd like you guys to do some research on these and figure out how to best grow them for me. I also need a robot that knows how to follow farm-related tasks and give belly rubs, if you guys can manage."

>>29734623
this

>>29734582
Excellent. Are those regular healing pods? Mayhaps I have something for you guys to do. Do you know much about agriculture? How difficult would it be to make a belly rubbing plant tending robo buttler?

>>29734623
seconded

>>29734623
>>29734642
>>29734656
>>29734676
You hand Fita's parents two beans.

"I'd like you guys to do some research on these and figure out how best to grow them for me" you tell them. "I also need a robot that knows how to perform farm-related tasks and give belly rubs, if you can manage."

"As you wish, my lord" the male tells you. "We shall begin our research right away."

"We have hundreds of agricultural robots under construction" the female tells you. "It will be simple to alter their programming to include a belly-rub protocol."

"Is there anything else you need from us, my lord?" the male asks. "Anything in particular you would like to see built on this planet?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29734772
>A A dojo would be nice

>>29734772
>A.
"Nappa was upset about the lack of training rooms...Now that I think about it, there's this room on Earth..."
>B.
Proceed to describe the Red Room and ask for an even more intense adjustable version.

>>29734772
>A. "Training facilities that dillate time and make conditions harsher inside"

>>29734828
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

>>29734828
This would be rad

>>29734837
And by dillate time I mean like a lesser version of the HTimechamber

>>29734828
I'd also ask for them to build a Martian equivalent to the Lookout. Arey needs a nice place to live.

>>29734772
A: Good job guys. more advanced training facilities would be nice. gravity changes that would still be challenging for me, alteration of training enviroment, temprerature, humidity and the like. also with a savety protocoll that deactivates the room is somebody passes out

>>29734772
Belly-rub Protocol is my Bruce Falconer cover band.

>>29734828
>>29734843
>>29734882
>>29734885
>>29734896
>>29734900
>>29734823
>>29734837
"Nappa was upset about the lack of training rooms" you tell them. "Now that I think about it, there's this room on Earth......."

You proceed to describe the Red Room to them, and they assure you they will begin immediately.

"We can alter the training facility we are currently building" the female tells you. "It should not take too long."

"We can probably work on one more project" the male tells you. "If you have anything in mind, that is."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29734772
Only one thing. Your names.

>>29734991
Actually yeah, this

>>29734977
study ki to figure out how to make another sword

>>29734991
this

>>29734991
>>29735038
>>29735058
"Only one thing" you tell them. "Your names."

"We have not used names in centuries" the female tells you. "We find them unnecessary."

"You have always referred to us as 'Fita's parents'" the male says. "Why do you wish to call us something else now?"

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29734991
Seems like an oversight on our part.
>>29735043
I'd rather just go on a family vacation to Huhn-Tresh's planet. I'm curious to see how she's doing.

>>29735113
What you did there. I see it

>>29735113
>A Just because it's easier, you don't have to have names, well i better get to training, goodbye!

>>29735113
>A
"I dunno. It just suddenly seemed awkward, realizing that not only are you not her actual parents, but I don't even know enough about you two to know what else to call you."

>>29735123
Yeah except time. 16 would destroy EVERYTHING by the time we got back.

>>29735113
"You are the parents of someone very important to me, therefore you are important to me. That is why I wish to attach a name to each of you out of respect for what you are and what you have done for me."

>>29735170
>>29735138
>>29735150
Vote

>>29735166
Yeah, AFTER we deal with that.

It wouldn't make sense to suggest doing that now, and so I'm not sure why you assumed I meant it as an immediate plan.

>>29735170
This

>>29735215
I still don't think we should do it; we'd lose 2 years of training in preparation for that big pink loser.

>>29735170
Not this. She actively avoids them now that she's fully aware of the fact that they basically abducted her. They're not her parents in any meaningful sense of the word.

>>29735186
This >>29735150

Then excuse ourselves.

>>29735231
Who we don't know about in character, and who SOM has stated will not become an issue for another 20 years.

18 years is more than enough to reach SSJ3.

>>29735245
>>29735150
"I dunno" you tell them. "It just suddenly seemed awkward, realizing that not only are you not her actual parents, but I don't even know enough about you two to know what else to call you."

"Call us whatever you like" the female says. "It matters little to us."

"Is there anything else you would have us do, my lord?" the male asks. "We can probably manage one more project while we work on the ones you have assigned."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29735231
>>29735215
>>29735245
>>29735272
Why would you lose two years? If you can figure out how to sense her, you could use instant transmission whenever

>>29735309
>A
"How about extreme long-range ki sensing equipment? Stronger and stronger fighters keep dropping in on us, and I prefer to know my guests are coming in advance."

>>29735324
So, try sensing her through the portal?

mite b cool

>>29735417
"How about extreme long-range ki sensing equipment?" you ask. "Stronger and stronger fighters keep dropping in on us, and I prefer to know my guests are coming in advance."

"A sensible idea" the female says approvingly. "Very wise."

"We shall begin at once, my lord" the male says. "It will take some time, but you have our assurances that we will create something satisfactory."

"If you will excuse us, we must begin work at once" the female tells you. "We will inform you of any developments."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29735518
>A Of course thank you for all the hard work

>>29735518
>B) Go gather the balls.
Time to get the strength and then find 16.

>>29735631
>>29735651
"Of course, thank you or all the hard work" you tell them.

The bow, and get to work. You turn and exit the lab, deciding what to do next.

>A. Go back to the main room

>B. Go outside

>C. Go get the Dragon Balls from Arey

>D. Go back to the Lookout

>E. Something else

>>29735651
I think it would be wiser to wait until the dust settles on this 16 thing before using the Mars dragon for the first time. We're less than a week of concerted training away from being able to squash 16 like a bug.

I think we should rely on our own strength first, rather than have the dragon solve all our problems.

>>29735720
Agreed.

>>29735717
>D See if Nappa's done

>>29735518
agreed >>29735720


Seconding>>29735748

>>29735720
Alright, but we should get a good deal of PL advantage, just a couple hundred mill is not enough, 400 mill at least.

>>29735717
>A
Gather Salta, Spina, Fita, Vegeta, 17, and 18. Let's take them back down to the Lookout and start group training in the Red Room again, but leave at least one lookout at all times to keep track of 16 with one of the advanced scouters.

If 16 makes a move towards the lookout, we can split using IT. If we make it to the end of each day, we can travel back to Mars to rest and recover.

The fact that he hasn't made a move on the Lookout makes me nervous.

>>29735778
this is a good plan for training

>>29735778
He doesn't know where the lookout is.

>>29735776
We upped our PL by 3 million in one day. At that rate, we'll be at 39 million in two more days. That translates to 5.85 billion at SKKx3, meaning we'd have about half the advantage we had on 18 in our rematch. If we got a third day of hard training in, that increases to a 1.3 billion advantage over 16's current power.

We can win, we feel great, we can do this.

>>29735827
Which strikes me as odd, given that the androids are programmed to sense Ki, and we peaked at just shy of his own power when fighting 18.

It really reinforces my thought that it was a programming error, that in his mind the Lookout isn't a part of Earth, so it's not his concern.

>>29735748
This

>>29735840
really this rate of training is damn stupid.
>>29735717
Somnius, we should be getting power increases for introducing new stresses like more Gs, new opponents, lifting heavier weights, learning new techniques, or finding artifacts.
i think it's stupid that we just automatically go up in power just because we did some pushups and sit ups or whatever our training is right now. i can't comprehend how we could push ourselves into exhaustion in a normal gravity environment without battling a foe in 'to the death' conditions. Holding back even in the slightest will mean we didn't try hard enough to improve. just think of all the things the characters had to do and go through to get more powerful... normal training go them a little stronger, but it was really slow.

>>29735748
>>29735760
You use your Instant Transmission to teleport back to Kami's Lookout, going to see if Nappa is finished training. You sense that he is still in the Red Room. Not surprising. After all, you only left a few minutes ago. You suddenly notice Kami emerging from the main building. He walks up to you and speaks.

"You may be interested to know what has occurred on Earth" Kami tells you. "Every city and town has been destroyed. Save a few scattered homes and small villages in the wilderness, everything is gone. Mankind is nearly extinct, only a few hundred humans yet live on Earth."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29735980
The Red Room increases gravity, temperature, and air pressure to put an immense strain on anybody training within it.

You should know this.

>>29736026
Shit

>>29736026
This needs to end now. Are we strong enough to take 16? And if shit goes south, we can always take him on a field trip to the sun.

>>29736026
>A.
"That's it I've had enough."
>B.
Go get 17 and 18 and Vegeta, see if they feel like saving humanity.

>>29736026
>A Don't worry Kami, I'll beat this bastard
>B IT to mars and gather the balls

>>29736026
Thats... horrible. Its a good thing we can bring them all back once we've dealt with Android 16.

>>29736026
>A >>29736109


>B Lets start training more.
We cannot yet take on Android 16

>>29736109
I say we just let them die, who needs humans anyway?

>>29736026
>B
Take a moment to ponder that.
>A
"16 will pay, and humanity will be restored. But if I lose patience now, all I'll do is get myself killed. Two more days, Kami. At the rate I'm going, two more days."

"Strange, though... you created the dragon balls, and they summon a cosmically powerful dragon. So, does that mean you have the ability to restore life and things like that?"

>>29736131
We can do it if we bring friends. Early on, we were completely outmatched against another saiyan, Carros, but Salta and Spina were there, and they evened the odds despite being weaker than we were at the time. We can win if we bring the Androids and Vegeta.

>>29736075
No, we're not. And using a suicide maneuver as anything BUT a last resort to save everyone else would have major character repercussions.
>>29736101
Not strong enough yet.
>>29736103
Balls now would be jumping the gun.

>>29736201
17 and 18 are entirely outclassed by 16: by a margin of 3 to 5. They won't be able to help. Vegeta's still a little behind us, and last we saw can't maintain the level of kaioken that would only bring us to just shy of 16's level.

And given that 18 was giving us a hell of a time despite our slight EDGE on her power-wise, taking a fighter any weaker than 16 is will be disastrous.

>>29736026
Telepathically contact them, try phones and scouters, sense and IT gather everyone. We fight now.

>>29736281
>>29736144
>>29736131
>>29736109
>>29736103
>>29736101
Vote

>>29736026
Kami, what else can we do in 5 minutes to power up? I can't use the time chamber. You have to know SOMETHING!!

>>29736281
No, we don't. Us fighting 16 now leaves us at a slight power disadvantage, against a machine that doesn't lose energy during a fight. It ends with us having to drop out of kaioken and getting annihilated, along with anyone else we take with us.

To do this, we need to build our base power by at least 2 million or so, with more being preferable. Our advantage is that we can spike our power higher, so we need to ensure that the SKKx3 carries us far enough beyond 16 to finish the job quickly.

>>29736311
Voting >>29736144

Because rushing in now accomplishes nothing. We've seen this in character based on our fight with 18, and we've been told so out of character.

>>29736026
A SHIT. Well, the marsballs can remedy this, but first we have to get rid of 16. We are about a Week short of reaching his power. this tincan will be vaporized, i swear by your good name
B Train like mad

>>29736342
If only there was some way spina and salta could combine power lvls or something...

>>29736311
If there are only a few hundred villages left, then it makes sense that 16 would go attack one of them at some point.
>Ask Kami where the last pockets of human civilization remain

>>29736443
We can track him with the new scouters, and intercepting him as we are accomplishes nothing.

>>29736109
>>29736131
>>29736141
>>29736144
"That's...horrible" you say. "It's a good thing we can bring them all back once we've dealt with Android 16."

"I fear Android 16 may be a foe too great for any of you to defeat. And, he may not be the worst threat" Kami comments cryptically. "All I can suggest for right now is that you train, and hope for the best."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29736487
>B. Nod, get all the adults and train.

>>29736487
>A Right
>B Get to the red room

>>29736487
>B. Nod, gather everyone and start training in the red room.

>>29736487
>A
"I'd like your advice, if you don't mind. I can try to train so that my power before I transform is great enough that my transformed strength is sufficient to compensate for the short duration. That's my current plan. But I also have a lot more ki that my body just isn't capable of drawing on. Although I ended up looking like a burst sausage afterwards, my experiment with kaioken at ascended super saiyan showed me that much."

"Is there some way to train that I'm missing? Something that I could be doing to tap into that reserve of energy rather than bulking up and getting faster?"

>>29736487
no matter how strong i get, there is always someone stronger than me. It's what keeps my saiyan blood running hot through my veins, remember I came from humble beginnings. I can rise to the challenge 16 presents, your fear doesn't mean anything to me. You have lost your people, I have lost my family... there is too much at stake for fear to grip me, and it should be the same for you.

>>29736623
no, we can draw on the ki, we just can't handle it. the ascended super kaio ken is proof of that, we drew on all the ki of 2xASS and it ruined us.

>>29736523
>>29736560
>>29736566
>>29736623
>>29736630
>>29736651
You nod and use your Instant Transmission to return to Mars, gathering up everyone except for Selri and Collie, who are still recovering in the rejuvenation chambers.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29736686
>B Train like we've never trained before, train until we pass out

>>29736686
Time to train. Anyone has any techniques they wanna share before we hit the red room

>>29736686
>A.
"I've got bad news. Aside from a few scattered villages, there isn't much of humanity left. The good news is we CAN beat 16 and bring those people back. If anyone doesn't want to train to help out, feel free to let me know. I should be at a level able to fight the killer firecrotch in a day or two."
Then train as hard as we can WITHOUT passing out. It's no good if we're out for another week or ten.

>>29736651
>that my body isn't capable of drawing on
>my body isn't capable
You're literally just rephrasing what I said.

>>29736686
>A
"There are no cities left on Earth. All that's left is us. So I'd like to take anyone who knows Instant Transmission to keep training. We'll take turns tracking 16 with the advanced scouters, and return to Mars for rest and recovery."

"Sorry kids, but I want you to stay here. I don't want you in the line of fire if 16 decides to come after us."

>>29736773
>>29736769
>>29736751
"I've got bad news" you tell everybody. "Aside from a few scattered villages, there isn't much of humanity left. The good news is we CAN beat 16 and bring those people back. If anyone doesn't want to train to help out, feel free to let me know. I should be at a level to be able to fight the killer firecrotch in a day or two."

You return to the Lookout and train in the Red Room, and after days of it, there is very little difference in your power level.

"You're not giving it your all" Fita comments. "You're holding back because you're impatient about hunting 16, which ironically will make it be a longer period of time before you can face him."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29736936
>B Train WITH passing out

>>29736977
Eyup.

>>29736936

>B Train until we literally cannot move

>>29736936
>A
"Alright. I'll do it the way I did it the first time."

"But promise me, if I go into a coma this time, be careful. I don't want anyone else dying while I'm on my ass."

>B
Completely cut loose, as if every punch were aimed at 16's head, as if we were literally trying to kill him by rage alone. When it seems that we're slowing down, dig deep and keep pushing.

>>29737004
this

>>29737004
Train until we goddamn disintegrate

>>29737019
>>29737023
killing somebody or ourself during training is not an option
training till we pass out should be sufficient enough

we know what we ahve to attempt, guys...

SS2 SKKx2... even if we do pass out like that again we have to try.

But first we must meditate. It isn't something we have done lately, it will help to center ourselves and focus on our focus. To improve our hold of our ki before we attempt to do what we cannot do.

>>29737269
I ain't doing that, unless we can't beat 16 even after everything we do, so we bring him into space, SSJ2 KK and use the massive energy boost it gives us to explode.

Once we have a senzu farm on mars, we should start blasting ourselves with lasers, then immediately eat a senzu bean for the zenkai, over and over again. I'll call this training tehnique Senzucide.

>>29737269
or we could try SKKx4 as a SSJ1

>>29737269
>>29737316
What if we try controlling our Ozaru form and go SSJ2 Ozaru or SKKx3 Ozaru?

>>29737307
>milk pouring from our senzu titties
>power level of a god
>become the titty god of milk and healing

>>29736977
>>29736987
>>29737004
>>29737019
>>29737020
>>29737023
>>29737179
You amp up the training, fighting until you literally cannot move. You become unconscious for two weeks, but when you wake up and recover, you do feel a bit stronger. The others have been training intensely as well, all of them growing stronger.

You are once more in the main room of the Martian building, surrounded by your friends and family.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29737269
I kind of like the idea of meditation. Get centered. Get in the right frame of mind.

>>29737345
>A
"I feel like I've hit a wall with my training... multiple times. Head-first."

"Anyone have an advanced scouter? I want to put a number to this headache."

>>29737345
>B. Try to SKKx4-5+

>>29737307
we'll have tits like a milk cow if we try that,
also, let's first try to train untill we pass out before we push ourselves in a 3 week coma again

>>29737388
>training until we pass out for 2 weeks lel
i guess it's better than 3 weeks, ay?

>>29737379
That.

>>29737379
this
PL time. let's see if we closed the gap

>>29737384
Not just yet. It strikes me as a very impatient way of going about it, and it seems SOM has been punishing us for perceived impatience.

>>29737409
well, if we had gone the road of the retard, and tried something ssj kaiokenx4, even if we can only ssjkaiokenx3 for mere minutes, you could make that months. all other ideas might as well kill us

>>29737425
>>29737413
>>29737409
>>29737388
>>29737384
>>29737379
>>29737431
>>29737459
"I feel like I've hit a wall with my training..." you comment. "Multiple times. Head-first. It's time I put a number to this headache, does anyone have an advanced scouter?"

Salta activates her scouter and reads your power level. "Thirty five million."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29737553
>A.
"Well, then I'm ready."

>>29737553
>A
"I might be able to do it now. Maybe. But I'm not sure."

"I'm actually a little concerned at how slowly I've been improving. I pushed hard enough to pass out for two weeks, and got less than I did in one day two weeks ago."

"I'm open to any ideas."

>>29737553
>A. I might be able to take 16 now, but I'd feel more comfortable if there was a larger gap. Any suggestions? Perhaps trying for Kaioken x4?

>>29737553
1 week of concentration meditation in ssj2. Learn to control it like we did our first form.

>>29737676
>>29737638
>>29737628
>>29737704
Just wish for power already.
You know we need this for the black star shenron latter on

>>29737704
That might be an acceptable alternative.

>>29737628
>>29737676
>>29737638
"I might be able to defeat 16 now, but I'm not sure" you tell them. "I'd feel more comfortable if there was a larger gap. Honestly, I'm concerned at how slowly I've been improving. I pushed hard enough to pass out for two weeks, and got less than I did in one day two weeks ago. I'm open to any idea."

"Okay, first of all, you're acting like you're making no real improvement" Salta says. "You're increasing by millions at a time. When you and I first met, you were struggling to increase by a few hundred. Keep things in perspective. Secondly, the reason your increases might be slowing down is, your body is just used to the type of training you're doing. I know you're pushing yourself to your limits, but you're doing it in a fashion that you've been doing since day one. It's a bit like your full power Super Saiyan, it's just natural to you now."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29737704
this

>>29737751
>B.
Go find 16 and tear him a new asshole.

>>29737751
>B. Go to Kami, and ask him to help you control and use your ki more efficiently/effectively. Basically mediation.

>>29737751
Meditate and ssj2 for a week. Getting used to it like the first form.

>>29737751
>A
"I hate to say this, but that time I drew so much power in my ascended super saiyan form... that's the only time I've ever hit that sort of limit before."

"Physical training isn't the answer anymore."

>B
SSJ2, meditate. Focus on digging deep a little at a time, learn to draw out greater and greater amounts of ki without relying on multiplicative techniques. Get a fuller control of our maximum form.

>>29737751
>Mediate in Super Saiyan 2 form for week OR until 16 surfaces again

What's Vegetas power level? With Kaioken he was as much of a match for 16 as we were.

>>29737776
Not... quite yet.

>>29737806
If he could help us that way he would have done it long ago.

>>29737751
...I have an idea. Use ki by emanating it from our entire body at once, into our entire body at once. A way to stress and damage ourself directly without tearing ourself apart as much as SSJ2 Kaioken did.

>>29737841
seconded

>>29737883
>>29737881
>>29737841
>>29737820
>>29737806
>>29737776
You decide that physical training simply isn't the answer anymore, and decide to adopt a strategy similar to that you used to master your Super Saiyan form in Super Saiyan 2. You meditate while in the form, and attempt to sustain it as long as possible. Almost immediately, you encounter road blocks. Your meditation does not work well since the mental effects of the form make focusing extremely difficult. In addition, it is far more taxing on you physically than your normal Super Saiyan form ever was. You're able to maintain Super Saiyan 2 only for about an hour, and the meditation far less than that. You soon fall back with exhaustion, reverting to your normal form.

"Hmph, if only you worked this hard in our matches" you hear.

Looking up, you see 18 looking down at you.

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29738000
>A.
"Well, you just haven't killed several of my children and most of humanity. I'm certain I'd work harder to kick your ass then.
So what's up? Got any ideas or news, or are you just checking in?"

>>29738000
>A. "Heh, I can't be lazy when the fate of the Earth depends on me. What about you. how have you been?

>>29738000
Go a better idea missy?

Try again. We need to focus for atleast an hour. 5 by the end of the second day.

>>29738056
Too morbid and of bad taste, cool it down anon, she might dislike that response.

>>29738000
>A
"Every time I transform, it's like I'm suddenly in a new body. It took me a while to reorient."

"I offered to tell you about how we used to be. I need a quick break... would you like to hear it? Come to think, if you'd rather see it I could do that too."

>>29738071
Seconded.

>>29738000
'I have been neglecting my mental exercise. It is so easy to get caught up in my own thoughts, it's surprising when I find a weakness in myself that is so glaringly obvious. It's like walking through a meadow and suddenly you look around in you are in a forest...'

>>29738115
this. pls pls pls

>>29738071
we should take naps in between. rest is important. meditate in ssj2 then sleep, repeat until we are hungry. a good nap can improve mental clarity and alacrity real well.

>>29738118
then >>29738115
then after telling her about how we use to be we should >>29738169

>>29738115
I like it.

>>29738000
The near extinction of the human race is a little more motivating than a sparring match. No offence.

>>29738195
this

>>29738195
seconded

>>29738195
agreed

>>29738238
>>29738197
>>29738195
>>29738133
>>29738116
>>29738115
"Every time I transform, it's like I'm suddenly in a new body" you tell her. "It took me a while to reorient. You know, I offered to tell you how we used to be. I need a quick break...would you like to hear it? Come to think of it, if you'd rather see it I could do that too."

She reaches down and helps you to your feet. "I've really got nothing better to do" she tells you. "As interesting as the idea of being on another planet is, there isn't much to do here. Let's walk, and you can tell me."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29738115
If we do show her, the memories we should focus on are our earliest memories of working for the PTO, basically as a child soldier, then some memories of being with Salta's crew, then Vegeta being destroyed, meeting Fita, watching Salta die, watching Fita die, then bringing both back, killing Frieza, Cooler, and Cold, and finishing with a nice moment with our family or something like that.

>>29738285
>A. Proceed to tell her in full detail

>>29738309
Pretty much this.

>>29738309
>>29738334
Yup

>>29738287
We should offer the psychic slide show as an option, thought I doubt she would be comfortable with that. Just tell her like a normal person. Well as normal as a psychic ape-man from space can be.

>>29738285
Guess she doesn't want to see it.
"Saiyans used to shoot their young at planets the Planet Trade Organization wanted to conquer. For most of my young life, that's what I did: conquer planets. That's when I met Salta and Spina. Then the alien we worked for wiped out most of our race."

"We wandered a while, picked up Fita along the way... strange, back then there was literally no trust there. And eventually, my own foolishness got Salta killed. We came to Earth to use the Dragon Balls, and I've spent every day since then with my family, and trying to keep the first planet that welcomed us safe."

>>29738309
>>29738356
this

Good dialogue >>29738393

>>29738422
Pretty much that. She doesn't seem to want to go with the psychic vision crap

>>29738309
>>29738334
>>29738356
The two of you take a walk, and you explain in full detail the history of the Saiyan race, and your own experiences. Your time serving the PTO in a team lead by Salta, your escape from the destruction of your homeworld. Roaming the galaxy, your adventures, your arrival on Earth, and all of the events leading up to when you met her and 17. She listens intently, maintaining a stoic expression through most of it, occasionally interrupting to ask a question. When you are finishes, she says nothing for several moments.

"You've certainly come a long way" she comments. "You know, your background isn't so different from mine and 17's. And if you could change so much and be happy despite everything, well, there's something comforting in that for people like me and 17."

>A. Say something

>B. Do something

>>29738439
I wouldn't, when talking is just as simple to do.

>>29738452
>A. "I'm sure you two will be very happy."
Give her a warm smile.

>>29738452
>A.
"Seventeen said about the same thing. 'Course, all my struggle was useless if I just let 16 keep destroying my home."

>>29738452
>A
"I guessed as much from day one: the situation felt similar. And since it was mainly the support of my family that got me here, I wanted to try and do the same for you and your brother."

"I hope I've been even half as successful."

>>29738507
this

>>29738502
>>29738507
>>29738530
Vote

>>29738530
This

>>29738559
This expresses a nice sentiment >>29738530

>>29738530
>>29738643
>>29738682
"I guessed as much from day one" you tell her. "The situation felt similar. And since it was mainly the support of my family and friends that got me here, I wanted to try and do the same for you and your brother. I hope I've been even half successful."

She gives you a warm smile. "You have. You've been a great friend to both of us, thank you."

>Any questions before we conclude?

>>29738723
Why hasn't Android 16 found the Lookout yet?

>>29738723
Is it even possible for us to become Full-Power Super Saiyan 2?

>>29738723
Progress update? Where's our PL at, how does our ki feel, who's pissed at us, who's happier with us, why hasn't Vegeta made a move on 16 yet, etc.

>>29738771
this. plus our standing with 18

>>29738723
>A. You're very welcome *smile warmly*. Well time to get back to training.

>B go back to meditating and trying to maintain SS2