We always have threads dedicated to talk about lamia and minotaur societies.Can we talk how a gnoll (hyaena) society would be?
>>29728264So many pseudopenises
>>29728264I'd guess they would be a nocturnal and nomadic tribe that would follow around a larger migratory animal.
Orcs but fuzzier and so much futa
>>29728264One of my favorite races conceptually.>Humanoid Hyenas>Generally misunderstood>Shamanistic nomadic scavengers
>>29728408Are they really like orcs? Think about it.Hyenas are scavenger pack animals.They don't usually hunt like lions do but they'll work together to steal a lions kill.
>>29728428It is usually the other way around. They kill an animal and then eat as much as they can before the lions come. The lions eat their share and then the hyenas come back and finish off the carcass.
Aren't they bone idle? So they'd Tour about, raiding for slaves for food and labour. Different tribes would meet and breed and fight.
>>29728456TILThey're more committed to the family group than lions, though, right?I read something along those lines in Jurassic Park.
Hyenas feature prominently in the folklore and mythology of human cultures with which they are sympatric. Hyenas are mostly viewed with fear and contempt, as well as being associated with witchcraft, as their body parts are used as ingredients in traditional medicine. Among the beliefs held by some cultures, hyenas are thought to influence people’s spirits, rob graves, and steal livestock and children.
>>29728489I think their packs are based around a dominant breeding pair with a few other breeding pairs.A lions pride is based around a single male with a few females and their cubs.
>>29728526So would Gnolls follow along those same lines?Family groups, like Gorillas?They'd be smarter. Capable of language and self-aware. So they'd end up being tribal. I don't know if they'd be as warlike as everyone likes to depict them.
>>29728264Think RA Salvatore's drow society... now make the drow as dumb as orcs, but twice as inbred.
>>29728264Taking from the society of the spotted hyena:Matriarchical (Females are larger and will dominate males, submissive males have a higher chance of mating, males often live alone or in small groups almost outside the main group)Highly competititve (a female takes care of her own cubs and doesn't help the others)Lives in loose clans (they often live in smaller groups, but which mixes with other groups)OpportunisticComplex social structure with several levels, also deft at reading others positions in other clansNepotistic (A high-ranking female's offspring inherit her rank)Promiscous (Like felines, no breeding pairs)Semi-Nomadic/territorial (They have dens, often multiple, which they travel between)
>>29728525>gnoll witch doctorsYes.
>>29728592How do you come to that conclusion?
>>29728599You. I like you.Tell me, teacher, how does this translate to a sentient humanoid race?
Striped hyenas are often referred to in Middle Eastern literature and folklore, typically as symbols of treachery and stupidity. In the Near and Middle East, striped hyenas are generally regarded as physical incarnations of jinns. Arab writer Al-Quazweeni (1204–1283) spoke of a tribe of people called Al-Dabeyoun meaning "hyena people." In his book Aajeb Al-Makhlouqat he wrote that should one of this tribe be in a group of 1000 people, a hyena could pick him out and eat him. A Persian medical treatise written in 1376 tells how to cure cannibalistic people known as kaftar, who are said to be “half-man, half-hyena”. Al-Doumairy in his writings in Hawayan Al-Koubra (1406) wrote that striped hyenas were vampiric creatures that attacked people at night and sucked the blood from their necks. He also wrote that hyenas only attacked brave people. Arab folklore tells of how hyenas can mesmerise victims with their eyes or sometimes with their pheromones. In a similar vein to Al-Doumairy, the Greeks, until the end of the 19th century, believed that the bodies of werewolves, if not destroyed, would haunt battlefields as vampiric hyenas that drank the blood of dying soldiers. The image of striped hyenas in Afghanistan, India and Palestine is more varied. Though feared, striped hyenas were also symbolic for love and fertility, leading to numerous varieties of love medicine derived from hyena body parts. Among the Baluch and in northern India, witches or magicians are said to ride striped hyenas at night.
>>29728695thats one punk hyena
Crime and PunishmentThe gnoll concepts of crime and punishment do not correspond with any other intelligent race. To them, exile is considered the worst punishment imaginable. The following list shows a few of the crimes humanoids tend to commit against one another (as well as a few distinctly gnoll crimes), with their accompanying punishments.Crime PunishmentRegicide Ascend to leadership of bandMurder (non-gnoll, non-slave) NoneRape NoneTheft (not from band) NoneTheft (from band) 10 lashingsMurder (slave or non-band gnoll) 10 lashingsPossession of contraband Must share goods with bandMurder (band-mate) Sacrificed and consumedTreason (with other gnolls) Sacrificed and burnedForce other gnoll to work ExileFreeing slaves ExileTreason (with non-gnolls) Exile
>>29728745Would gnolls use the slaves or would they just capture and then sell them?
>>29728745Turns out 4chan doesn't like spacing, let's try this.Crime -----> PunishmentRegicide -----> Ascend to leadership of bandMurder (non-gnoll, non-slave) -----> NoneRape -----> NoneTheft (not from band) -----> NoneTheft (from band) -----> 10 lashingsMurder (slave or non-band gnoll) -----> 10 lashingsPossession of contraband -----> Must share goods with bandMurder (band-mate) -----> Sacrificed and consumedTreason (with other gnolls) -----> Sacrificed and burnedForce other gnoll to work -----> ExileFreeing slaves -----> ExileTreason (with non-gnolls) -----> Exile>>29728777Well considering Hyenas seem to have a streak of not wanting to do anything unless it's actually good for the tribe or band at large, I imagine they use slaves for menial tasks.
>>29728647I think all of those points translate pretty well more or less directly to a sentient humanoid race.It is essentially a dynastic aristocracy ruled by the females, while the males either work as foot soldiers, menial labour or servants (in roughly that order of ranking, soldiers being least favored and servants being most favored). They live in tribes which band together in clans, each clan and tribe having its own territory and rank, in which they have a couple of dens which they move between.Also, note that since the female spotted hyena has a demipeni instead of a normal vagina, rape is actually impossible. Given that and the society's emphasis of the male being submissive to get sex, most of them would think rape an entirely alien concept. Then again, it would be the more agressive males that don't get any sweet gnoll demipeni, which might very well make them liable to take out their sexual frustrations on non-gnolls.This almost start sounding like some Tumblr SJWs wet dream...
>>29728745I really don't see gnolls as slave-holding folks, especially if they have the same habitat as hyenas.
The spotted hyena is a non-seasonal breeder, though a birth peak does occur during the wet season. Females are polyestrus, with an estrus period lasting two weeks. Like many felid species, the spotted hyena is promiscuous, and no enduring pair bonds are formed. Members of both sexes may copulate with several mates over the course of several years. Males will show submissive behaviour when approaching females in heat, even if the male outweighs its partner. Females usually favour younger males born or joined into the clan after they were born. Older females show a similar preference, with the addition of preferring males with whom they have had long and friendly prior relationships. Passive males tend to have greater success in courting females than aggressive ones. Copulation in spotted hyenas is a relatively short affair, lasting 4–12 minutes, and typically only occurs at night with no other hyenas present. The mating process is complicated, as the male hyena's penis enters and exits the female's reproductive tract through her pseudo-penis rather than directly through the vagina, which is blocked by the false scrotum and testes. This unusual traits of the female's genitalia makes mating more laborious for the male than in other mammals, while also ensuring that rape is physically impossible. Once the female retracts her clitoris, the male enters the female by sliding beneath her, an operation facilitated by the penis's upward angle. Once this is accomplished, a typical mammalian mating posture is adopted.
>>29728878I don't think their would be any sort of dynasty. I think the current ruler would be the strongest female. She would rule a small pack with an iron fist and occasionally be able to temporarily rally a few packs together for a large hunt or to raid a settlement.
>>29728331>ITT: fetish galoreI knew there was a reason /tg/ never goes too deep into gnoll society.
>>29729016>>29728331It's like he saw it coming...
>>29729016I give this thread 30 minutes until it breaks out into full on Magical Realm material because MUH PSEUDOPENISUntil then, I'd like to whine about people focusing too much on the sexual aspects of Gnolls and not at all on the culture or histories which makes it feel like you're playing a sex doll as your character.
>>29728264Gnolls fuck yeah, I love those lazy bastards!
>>29729016We handled the milk-producing nanny minotaurs and worked it into a credible society, we can handle a little futa without losing our shit.
>>29728264Do the gnolls have a written language?Do the gnolls even have a common language?
>>29729129well cats can make like 30 different noises. I don't see why they wouldn't have a verbal language.
>>29729164How about Gnoll Khan who unites the tribes into a Golden Horde, ready to raid the civilized lands and take loot and slaves?
>>29729213I like the idea of Gnoll Khans actually...
>>29729129Not only do they have a written language, they also have a peculiar "laugh" that , to the untrained ear, sounds similar to that of the hyena.Gnolls can modulate their laugh and use to express all kinds of emotion, not only joy. It's pretty noteworthy seeing a gnoll funeral where everyone's laughing.
>>29729213Not a bad idea. But how would have shamans affect that?
>>29729204hyenas are actually closely related to cats
>>29728331This is canon to my setting, but not publicly stated.
>>29729082Oh, but there is an advancement here: >>29728878I don't get how aristocracy and tribal would work within a society. While aristocracy doesn't imply victorian age fashion and fancy speaking, it does imply a separation of certain parts of the society from others, which is physically impossible on a tribe.>>29729129Sure, why not? Also, we're speaking about a feline, on top of language I suppose they can employ odour as some form of sign. You know, marking territory and such.>>29729204Actually, after some DNA analysis, it have been ruled the hyena are more related to the feline family, than the canine group. They would be like the furry of the family: they belong to the feline tree, but disguise as member of another species.
>>29729213So just make them sergal.
>>29729260they're in the suborder Feliformia
>>29728264Clan based, Matriarchal.Religion: Shamanistic, venerate spirits of elements and animals.Semi-permeate settlements. Limited agriculture, a lot of hunting and gathering.Aggressive tendencies would vary from tribe to tribe, I think.
>>29729204Hyena are feliformia, the same family group as cats and are closer to all cats and cat-like species than caniformia (dog-like).They look more like dogs because of convergent evolution, where distinctly different species which end up in the same ecological niche tend to develop similar or identical traits.
Her clitoris, which contains the birthing canal, protrudes 7 inches from her body."Imagine giving birth through a penis," said study co-author Kay Holekamp of Michigan State University. "It's really weird genitalia, but it seems to work. Although giving birth through a 'penis' isn't a trivial problem."The clitoris' birth canal is only an inch in diameter, and the tissue often tears as a 2-pound cub squeezes through the narrow opening. The rip can be fatal, as evidenced by the high death rate for first-time mothers.
>>29729279I don't quite follow?
>>29729213I couldn't see anyone permanently uniting the tribes. I could see a great khan being a religious figure who comes every few years to lead a great hunt with all the tribes and then disbanding immediately after.
>>29729310Since giving birth is so dangerous, wouldn't stealing other tribes' babies be a big thing in gnoll society?
>>29729310"My mom have a bigger penis than yours!"
>>29729337That could work too. Perhaps people living on the edge of the plains fear the Great Hunt that occurs every seven years or so, and hire mercenaries and adventurers?
>>29729358At the risk of starting a blood feud with another tribe.Given the fact that real Hyenas aren't facing extinction, I doubt it'd be worth it.
>>29729310Female circumcision might be common in gnoll society to make things a bit easier for sex and childbirth.
>>29728331>>29728264I do wonder if it might have very different gender roles than a human society. I think that might be a good starting point to build from.
>>29729372I know what sergals are, but I still don't quite see how they're relevant?
>>29729390Why? There's incentive for it.
Most gnoll tribes are nomadic and generally don't hold ownership over a territory, instead following where resources lead. In conflict, generally use raiding practices striking quickly and brutally where opportunities arise. Though fierce warriors, Gnolls are unwilling to sacrifice gnoll life unless its for something deemed important by the tribe, they will readily abandon a petty raid, given suitable opposition.Gnolls love to haggle and it is a common pass-time. It is one of the first games gnoll children learn, as their parents or caregivers tenderly cajole them into properly arguing for food or presents. After a raid or in a meeting between passing tribes, gnolls will spend hours, even the course of a few days, arguing back and forth over price of staples, baubles, or anything that catches their fancy. These negotiations are often used as a way to exchange information, as news of events, politics, or general revelry is exchanged back and forth as barter or to distract other participants. Among younger members fights often break out, though it is more a case of bravado rather than malice and serious injury rarely results from it. It is strongly frowned upon to outright cheat another gnoll in a bargain, of course no such cultural rule applies to non-gnolls.Marriage between tribes or families is a large source of both raids and a curious case of haggling. As both sides attempt to out do the other in gifts and dowry/dower as a matter of pride.
>>29729376It would probably occur once a generation.How long do gnolls live?
>>29729310>>29729358Alternately, the Caesarian section might be the standard thing for them.
>>29729439Performed by the shamans, making them central for the tribe's well-being. A tribe that has lost its shaman cannot have children safely, and they go to almost any length to acquire a new one.
>>29729388Considering the females are dominant and licking pseudo-penises is a sign of submission and we have very simple medical knowledge I don't think cutting of the entire penis on half of the society will be a think unless you want muslim gnolls.
>>29729439I don't picture them advanced enough to do a c-section but with healing magic such things are much easier than they would be IRL I suppose.
>>29729388This would also illuminate gnoll art where their are women with huge dicks.
>>29729477>muslim gnolls.More likely than you'd think. Basically take berbers or other nomadic arabs and make them gnolls, presto.
>>29729477>>29729493Who says they don't have medical knowledge? If your whole species has a similar problem, you're going to develop it wheter you like it or not.
>>29729477> females are dominant and licking pseudo-penises is a sign of submission Dammit boner. I don't want femdom gnolls in my setting. No one wants in my magical realm.
>>29729563Heh, it would be pretty cool if gnolls were the setting's leading surgeons and midwives. It's a nice contrast to the savage animal people they're usually portrayed as.
Why have I never seen these threads on minotaur society? I only ever see Lamia waifu wat do.A gnoll thread is fine too, though.
>>29729622I'm not a fan of portraying them as savages. They've gotta be deeper than that. But going so far as to making them midwives seems like a huge stretch.
>>29729656>making them midwives seems like a huge stretch.That's what a female gnoll has to go through during childbirth.
>>29729668Huh, that was a thing long ago wasn't it?
I've wanted to roll a Gnoll Ranger, or Witch possibly, for a long fuckin' time now. Thanks for reminding me /tg/.>>29729690hahaha.Wow
Spotted hyenas have a complex set of postures in communication. When afraid, the ears are folded flat, and are often combined with baring of the teeth and a flattening of the mane. When attacked by other hyenas or by wild dogs, the hyena lowers its hindquarters. Before and during an assertive attack, the head is held high with the ears cocked, mouth closed, mane erect and the hindquarters high. The tail usually hangs down when neutral, though it will change position according to the situation. When a high tendency to flee an attacker is apparent, the tail is curled below the belly. During an attack, or when excited, the tail is carried forward on the back. An erect tail does not always accompany a hostile encounter, as it has also been observed to occur when a harmless social interaction occurs. Although they do not wag their tails, spotted hyenas will flick their tails when approaching dominant animals or when there is a slight tendency to flee. When approaching a dominant animal, subordinate spotted hyenas will walk on the knees of their forelegs in submission. Greeting ceremonies among clan-members consist of two individuals standing parallel to each other and facing opposite directions. Both individuals raise their hind legs and lick each other's anogenital area. During these greeting ceremonies, the penis or pseudo-penis often becomes erect, in both males and females. Erection is usually a sign of submission, rather than dominance, and is more common in males than in females.
>>29728264Look up hyena butter
>>29729253>>29729753This tells us that gnolls are a very emotive people. I bet they are also great storytellers and bards as a result of that.
>>29729845Are there gnoll musical instruments?
>>29729858Maybe they have a kind of chorus of cackling?
>>29729654You missed that thread huh...Replace dicks with lactating tits that would make CoC feel that they have a small size.
>>29729654link to the minotaur thread http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/26463769/
>>29729899What if the cackling also has a ritual function? Like celebrating a succesful hunt or raid?
>>29729901Well I guess I dodged a dairy bullet, then.
>>29729942Man that thread kicked ass. A shame later attempts fell victim of trolls.
>>29729947Could also be used as a scare tactic in combat. Cackling from all sides coming out of the darkness. Or, in combat as well, could be used to locate friendly forces or signal for help.
>>29729393I would nominate 4 classes: royalty, religious orders, military and commoners. Think on the cards (diamonds, clubs, and so on), and how most societies through history had similar classifications, although some had the merchant class as completely a different matter. I think we have ruled the gnoll would be ruled by giant-cock females, and the male would be pretty much servants and, considering the whole "rape is an alien concept", quite probably fucktoy is another popular profession for males, on the same sense than a jester or some other performer.As for militia, probably females would rule again, but from a strategy side. Female gnolls would spend shit tons of time planning and moving pieces on their boards, and the males would be the cannon fodder. BTW: what kind of weapons or tactics would favour a gnoll society?As for religious orders... huh... that one is pretty hard. Dunno. As for peasants, I doubt there would be much more change. Probably many males would follow that Japanese flower decoration thing. You know, females going into hunting, males stand at home and prepare pretty flower things with catnip, belladonna and some other drugs to welcome the females.
>>29729753>Both individuals raise their hind legs and lick each other's anogenital area.i read that as kick. and i laughed more than i should have...
>>29728599Maybe the bad reputation of gnolls is due to the young, tribeless males wandering into cities and getting coerced into doing the dirty work of criminal gangs because they're inherently submissive? Like, an average citizen only meets ne'er-do-well city gnolls and not the decent tribal gnolls.
>>29729985Or like in the movie Zulu where they chant to pump themselves up and intimidate the enemy?http://youtu.be/ODM1RJe4FvQ
So is the consensus that /tg/ gnolls are more civilized than chaotic evil monster manual demon worshipping types?
Monitoring this thread
>>29730005>As for religious orders... huh... that one is pretty hard. Dunno.Oh that's simple, flagellants, flagellants everywhere.
>>29730071Yup, basically maximum fur factor.
>>29730071Sure, always evil races are boring anyway.
>>29730067I always think of the Maori Warchant.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIcFt7WpwxA
>>29730005Maybe gnolls are big on necromancy, raising ancestral spirits to help them in hunt and combat?
>>29728264Genetically Hyena's are cats
>>29730016But tribes are never decent.
>>29730172That's because humans are encroaching in Gnoll lands. They're simply responding.
>>29730162Considering that hyenas are cannibals and corpse-eaters, I find that hard to believe.
>>29730214Do gnolls eat their dead? Not out of disrespect but that's like their funeral. Your tribe eats you.
>>29730214Dunno, eat the corpse recycle the spirit?
>>29728581Hell theyd be warlike. Vicious, caniballistic and ballistic. Universally psycotically insane, led by powerful witch doctors taking on the powers of demons, respecting only strength and brutality.And matriarchical, but only because the females are so much larger and insane.
>>29730166No, they are cat-like. Which includes cats, hyaenas and mongooses.
>>29730247I've heard of that in real cultures. I'd say that would fit right into their culture. They aren't above scavenging food in real life.
>>29730247So the strenght of the deceased goes back to the tribe. Maybe in case of a dominant female, her servants get first pick, since she would have wanted them to prosper.
>>29730250More like eat the corpse, retain the spirit with you. Your father's spirit is always watching you have a completely different meaning for the gnoll society.Also, remember, necromancy (understood as communicating with the dead) include rituals that include devouring parts of a corpse. If the gnoll are big into necromancy, it would not be your sociopath zombie master type, more medium type to speak directly to the spirit of the elder.
>>29728777Capture and rape/kill/eat
>>29729953I don't get it.
>>29730211Tribes are always at war with another goddamn tribe. Hippies make it out like everyone was at peace and in balance with nature before Western civilisation rolled around, but in reality tribes are really terrible to each other.
>>29730326What if only someone who has eaten the corpse of a particular dead can talk to it, because of the spiritual link between them?
>>29730326Seems that ancestor worship would be big in Gnoll society too.
>>29729256same way Timujin did. Tolerate pretty much anything, use them when needed but if someone gets to big for their boots I AM THE SCOURGE OF GOD NOT YOU DIE.
>>29730328That would really depend on their society. If they're (semi)nomadic then they wouldn't be too keen on keeping slaves, but if they have permanent settlements then slaves would be useful for menial work that gnolls consider to be beneath them.
>>29730379>crying gnoll indian.gif
Among hyenas, only the spotted and striped hyena have been known to become man-eaters. Hyenas are known to have preyed on humans in prehistory: Human hair has been found in fossilised hyena dung dating back 195,000 to 257,000 years. Some paleontologists believe that competition and predation by cave hyenas in Siberia was a significant factor in delaying human colonization of Alaska. Hyenas may have occasionally stolen human kills, or entered campsites to drag off the young and weak, much like modern spotted hyenas in Africa. The oldest Alaskan human remains coincide with roughly the same time cave hyenas became extinct, leading certain paleontologists to infer that hyena predation was what prevented humans from crossing the Bering strait earlier. Hyenas readily scavenge from human corpses; in Ethiopia, hyenas were reported to feed extensively on the corpses of victims of the 1960 attempted coup and the Red Terror. Hyenas habituated to scavenging on human corpses may develop bold behaviours towards living people; hyena attacks on people in southern Sudan increased during the Second Sudanese Civil War, when human corpses were readily available to them.
>>29729388>making things easierThats not how you Gnoll. Demon worshippers tend to think suffering is good
>>29730247Gnolls are pissed off at humans because humans don't eat the gnolls they kill in combat. It's very disrespectful.>Someone dies, you eat them. You don't let it rot in the ground or burn it to ash. That's just down right ungodly. >I'll tell you what we should do, go down there kill their warriors and eat their corpses in front of their families. Teach those heathens how to have some proper respect for the dead.
>>29730389I like that! Perhaps the shamans trade preserved body parts of great gnolls among each other, for consumption?
>>29730442That is the rudest thing I've seen, and I have seen some pretty rude things in my life.
>>29730397>>29730389Another important point to consider is that if we rule the gnoll are nomadic, they don't have the time or space to carry with them a dead corpse, and burying/cremating the body is pretty much wasting potentially good food. Maybe they also develop solid techniques to preserve some parts (like the current alpha female dick), but overall they would made the best possible use out of the bodies of lesser minions.
>>29730467This is the reason why gnolls have such a bad reputation
>>29730507A lot of focus on the female psuedo penis. Anyway, ancestor worship doesn't require you to have a shrine or something. You could just chant and pray to them.
>>29730005Classic DND has Gnolls as big demon worshippers. I can see Gnoll shamans raising up demons, doing mass posessions ect.
>>29730470The shaman also gets the first bite of every dead gnoll, followed by her/his servants like someone said earlier.
>>29730281Mongooses are weasels arent they?
>>29730603I think the choice bits go to the ruling matriarch, then the shaman gets the most magical body part, cubs get fat and brains, and rest is shared by the tribe. Innards go to pet hyenas.
>>29730505Welcome to the jungle
>>29730671Where we got fun and games.
>>29730637Distantly. Looking at a spotted hyena's muzzle face on, you can see a resemblance. Something these pictures don't give you is how BIG hyenas are. You usually see them in comparison to elephants, gazelles, and lions....none of which are small animals either. For comparison, here is a young adult hyena.
>>29730576I suddenly see a relation between their natural cackling and their possession seances. Maybe even the more reserved and 'civilized' Gnoll tribes treat cackling with the same regard as a muse or inspiration.
>>29730650Bones go to the elderly - marrow is good for them and the calcium is good for their bones. Hyenas eat EVERYTHING.
>>29729668Needs a pseudo-bulge
>>29730603>>29730541>A lot of focus on the female psuedo penis.>UMustBeNewHere.png>>29730603>>29730650Big question: who would become shamans? And why? Through history, witchcraft and magic seems more associated with females, but organized religion and doctrines usually are ruled by males, so is pretty much a 50/50 thing. What about this: there isn't a particular genre dominating the religion side of the gnoll society. Some tribes have female and some other have males, and no tribe finds it weird. If anything, based on what some anon said, communicating with the spirits would made it more valuable, so maybe the shaman of the tribe typically is whoever stays at home more often, but it can be either male or female. Also, following a similar pattern on some ancient tribes, the shaman is designed upon the hallucinations caused by either rotten food, or some weird plant or something.
>>29728526Hyena females are at the top of their hierarcal social structure, followed by female cubs, male cubs, and lastly adult males.Adult males will cringe and back away from female cubs making dominance plays.
>>29730650What's the most magical body part? I'd say lungs, because that's where the spirits reside once they entered a body throught the air.
>>29730827stomach because the spirit enters you when you eat the body of your sncestor
>>29730827Or throat, since they can make the varied laughing noises. It's part of their culture then.
That horrible, lingering feeling when /tg/ linked me yesterday to awful webcomic and I somehow read it all and can only think of gnolls now as a funny, furry fapbait. Oh dog what done
>>29730821The new shaman must eat the rotten part of the old one in order to obtain his talents and some magical herbs to develop new ones. This triggers an hallucinogenic trance. He gets a new name based on what he saw. There's a surprisingly high number of shamans named Pretty Colors.
For folks who don't want the futa element in their game there are four species of hyena and correct me if I'm wrong but only the spotted or laughing hyenas have the big ole clitties
>>29730950That takes the idea of "sparkle dog" to a whole new meaning.
Making gnolls into matriarchy society = shitMy gnolls do not have pseudo-penises, though the males and females are usually equal in strength. They are big into witchcraft. My favorite witchcraft/trickster stories involve weird magic, especially voices. Gnolls can imitate voices very well, and they often permanently steal the voices of those victims they kill, adding to their witchcraft.
>>29730326That would be more divination than necromancy.Communing with spirits is not the same as raising zombies.
>>29731010>That post>That filenameI'm getting mixed signals here, anon.
>>29731049What?Stolen voices can be very useful. It lets you trick people. Gnolls can also combine the voices and sounds to make music or mimic more complex sounds like a babbling brook. They can also make one of the voices guard their lair, meaning anyone who comes close will hear deathly screams or threats if they get close. Also cursing somebody by making one of your voices follow them around and scream in their ear every time they want to go to sleep is quite a hellish thing for a Gnoll to do. More powerful then you might think.
>>29730740Man, I fuckin hate seeing hunting pictures like this because the hunter is always unbearably smug. Yeah nice job, you dressed up like a bush for 9 hours and murdered a creature much more beautiful than you are. Nice job, you earned that grin and "one of your french girls" posture.
>>29730950>>29730827Eyes.Only shamans manage to eat the eyes of other gnolls, as they are the source of their visions and foresight. Also, eyes can get infected with certain parasites and virus, hence why so many shaman get high days after the ritual is done.
>>29730893Is the awful webcomic at least good fapbait? If so, link?
>>29731010But actual hyena females are bigger and stronger and have larger penis' anon! If theirs a place for a matriachical society, here it is!
>>29731117Femdom, Futa, Matriarchy, etc. is all shit.Male dom is acceptable.Shota is acceptable.This isn't complicated.
>>29731010>Making creatures based on Hyenas, which have matriarchal societies, into matriarchal society = shit
>>29731158hunters are not intelligent, sensible individuals anon.
>>29731197>Not sure if bait or not
>>29731211I support the industry of hunting simply because it helps keep populations down and actually provides the majority of funds wildlife preservations receive. But killing an animal should be a solemn, respectful affair, not a fucking facebook snapshot. >>29731197Get your shit gay fetishes away from my slightly less gay fetishes, faggot.
>>29731186I don't think so, it's like almost porn, but it never delivers. bythebook.smackjeeves.com/Here is "secret stash" - really, tells much about comic itself:http://peteranckornart.squarespace.com/gallery/raths-secret-stash/
>>29728695I like the idea that there is a higher than normal amount of gnoll vampires compared to other species.
I'm actually very keen on Gnolls using their dead and being big on necromancy.It would pretty much lead to talismans made out of the bones, teeth and claws of their dead and a high artistic skill as they wish to honour their noble dead.Also we now have a great chance at blatantly ripping off the Dunmer by giving Gnolls a Guardian Spirit related to the talisman if they're wearing one.
>>29731295>skip to chapter 3>goblin shota protag in loin cloth getting beaten up by manly as manly dwarves>still no hyena pseudopenisesI was wrong not to heed your warning.
>>29731203Matriarchal societies are not interesting to me. They do not draw me in, they do nothing for my suspension of disbelief, I don't like them and I don't want to play with them. Drow, Gnolls, Amazons, not interesting. I like societies like real world societies- few women have any say. But the ones that do are really badass and have to prove themselves. This is far more interesting then any bullshit fetish 'oh if you have a dick u r my slave!!!'
>>29728331You do realize only one kind of hyena has pseudopenises on females right?
>>29728264irl female hyenas are bigger than the males, who try to eat their children, and have mock-penises they use to fuck one another. The males sometimes clean these mock-penises in displays of subordination. So hyena society would be matriarchal, with doms pegging submissive sissy males. The women would be buff and large chieftans while the males were smaller, more numerous cannibals. Cowardly overall, they would only tend to war when allying with more powerful aggressive races like orcs or giants and then take a lesser cut of the spoils. They'd be known for attacking a human settlement that's already trashed rather than invading a thriving stronghold.
>>29731431>not interesting>this is far more interestingYeah, to you, now go be interested by it somewhere else. You and your paedobait fetish.
>>29731437To be fair the megaclit hyena species is the one most people think about when they think hyena.
>>29731502>>29731431You two are as bad as eachother.
>>29731197The species of gnoll that your pic would be from wouldn't have the Futas.http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090316125319AAo2z6LOnly Spotted have the enlarged clitoris, the other 2 species of hyena are normale.
>>29731531>paedobait fetish.My only fetish is to dominate others. Especially non-humans.Pedo shit is just a cherry on top. >:3
>>29731556You disgust me.
>>29731539That's your own fault for falling prey to the Furry Futa propaganda run.
>>29731556That means u r a psychopath.
>>29731431It is realistic that women have no say. Likewise no female adventurers would exist in the setting. IRL no woman "proved herself" to gain leadership. She was just next in line in the monarchy, letting her lover-advisors run the kingdom (Catherine the Great), popping heirs while men took her land (Austria's Empress), avenging her dead husband as his generals demand (Bodicca), or getting your son to commit fratricide and sending him away so you can rule his nation, plotting to kill anyone he installs (Alexander the Great's mom). All of these women derived their power from a man who died. There has never in history been a progenitor like Charlemagne or Mohamed that was a woman.
Okay people, how about we ignore the troll and continue to work at the setting?For example: we agreed that the gnolls are semi-nomadic. But who protects the unhabitated huts of the tribe when they're away.
As hyenas, unlike the primates humans come from, are carnivores and not omnivores I think focus on food should be on meat and not the staple grains human society has based of. This means that it would be more pure hunter rather than hunter and gatherer and livestock rather than farming. This also feeds into the semi-nomadic aspect.I would hazard that males would still be hunters in most groups, but that they would also be the ones who take care of the livestock. Furthermore, the herder males would probably be higher ranked than the hunters, partly as they would be guardians against the other tribes cattle rousers, but also since it wouldn't be appropriate to be too aggressive as a herder. Of course, this also means that it is a job that is completely unthinkable for the females.Likewise, butchers, tanners and other craftsmen would most likely be male.>>29731748I imagine that for some are more nomadic than others, for some the dens are just convenient camping spots with huts already made and some hidden supplies. Others would have more permanent settlements (I would guess near a resource such as metals or salts), where some males under the supervision of a few females stay more or less permanently, probably with livestock like sheep or goats, while the ruling matriarch would travel between the dens with her court.
>>29731431There are matriarchal societies in real life though...>I know this is a troll.Don't tell me otherwise, I need to believe this.
>>29731636I don't disagree with you.But the point of fantasy is that it is fantastic. There is nothing wrong with a women adventurer or leader, perhaps she has incredible skill with magic or a bow. I think elf societies are much more likely to be equal for both genders, humans less so. Dwarves are probably an old boys club as well, but I'd like to think Dwarf women are like the housewife from hell. She WILL beat your ass if you don't do as she asks, but she's a damn good mother.
Unlike most mammalian societies, female spotted hyenas run the show and are significantly more muscular and aggressive than males. After studying hyenas in Kenya for nearly two decades, researchers discovered that in the final stages of pregnancy, high-ranking females provide their developing offspring with higher levels of androgen—a male sex hormone associated with aggression—than lower-ranking mothers provide to their developing young.This is the first study to show that a mother's social status, and not just her genetic makeup, can directly affect her offspring's observable physical characteristics.Aggressiveness is a good attribute for a creature living in a society where 40 to 60 individuals scrap over food, and especially for females requiring extra energy for developing offspring.By infusing her developing young with androgen, the mother increases the likelihood that her genetic information will survive.But providing the extra hormones takes a toll on the mother. The dose of androgen that she received from her own alpha mother damages her ovaries, making it difficult to conceive.It also causes female reproductive organs to grow. A lot.
>>29731555It's also only the spotted Hyenas that show a real group/clan behaviour with matriarchial patterns as well as being outright batshit insane "WE DON'T KILL WE EAT" tearing your prey to shreds while still struggling.Brown hyenas are more "wolflike", with paternal male and female working to provide the cubs together with adolescent packmembers.Striped hyenas are mostly just groups of two to seven.The latter two are basically carrion eaters with a diet consisting of smaller creatures they can catch (rodents, insects, lizards etc.).This makes for an interesting concept:Gnolls now separate into 3 sub-races, from which the spotted ones are the most militaristic and tightly knit culture revolving around matriarchs and their retinue of man-servants, the amount being an indicator for wealth as a matriarch can afford to leave so many scrapes of food for her serfs.The striped ones are like traders and most common ones (looking at the map of habitat, striped hyenas have the biggest zone) thus making them the most "civilised" in terms of art and diplomacy (including delicious Gnollette-concubines)And thirdly the Brown Gnolls which are the most rural of the subraces, relying the most on stealth and tracking to hunt but also being the easiest to hire as mercenaries.
>>29731901>But the point of fantasy is that it is fantastic.This is a disingenuous argument. Women being men who look different as a feature in DnD since 3rd edition is not portrayed as fantastical. It is misrepresented as realistic. No thought is given to explain how and why women aren't any different from men in the fictional setting, despite the sexes being different irl. Instead it's pretend, "yeah, a female adventurer suffers no penalties to strength, constitution, intelligence, dexterity or wisdom; she gains no bonus to charisma". It becomes a marxist revisionist history where female knights were as common as male knights.
>>29731901I've always seen Dwarf society as more merit based rather than stratified along gender lines.Doesn't matter what you do, within reason, as long as you're good at it. The better of the bakers (for example) would take the lead.
>>29731636What about Joanne D'Arc? Or polish Emilia Plater, Aleksandra Zagórska, Joanna Żubr, Wanda Gertz, Irena Tomalak? We even have a legend about Wanda which was heir to throne after fratricide she commanded armies and was so hardcore that to prevent further invasions she killed herself so foreigners wouldn't want to claim her by marriage.
>>29731995You must really like FATAL, right?I enjoy feeding trolls.
>>29731995>It is misrepresented as realistic.Maybe if you have some form of autism and can't tell the difference between fiction and reality>the rest of the stupid shit you postedAyup
>>29732027Ah wait, actually it was the other version of legend, in original one she simply defeated enemy armies and a leader of those armies sang a song of glory for her and then he offed himself.
Mama from Dredd makes a pretty good template for a Gnoll matriarch.
>>29731950So browns would be the most likely to go adventuring? According to Wikipedia there is another member of the hyena family, the aardwolf. If they were a gnoll race too how do you think they would behave?
>>29732027>>29732035Stop feeding the troll. This guy is clearly just trying to piss everyone off by acting like a Fedora Elemental. Focus on the gnolls, people.>>29731950This is a good idea, but I suggest we focus on the spotted ones before working on the others.
>>29732106they'd probably be the goblins to the gnoll's orcs
>>29732101Good template for a completely psychotic Matriarch.There has to be some nice or at least decent Gnoll Matriarchs.
>>29732164Not in my Magical Realm..
>>29731995As I said, I don't necessarily agree with you.It also depends on the setting.If the setting is like my friends setting which is played off more like an animu then anything else; anyone can train long and hard enough to be able to punch through a castle wall or fight a dragon one on one. It's magic, it's belief, it's the spirit, whatever. It's fantasy.Maybe if you're running a more realistic setting. But people can choose what rules they want to include in games. In my games/settings women are simply not as common in adventuring or leadership roles, but the ones that do and female player characters don't have special deductions or bonuses to their stats.
>>29732127I'd actually like to see a Fedora Elemental. Oh well, maybe someday.As for gnolls, has anybody here read the webcomic Digger? In it, there's a tribe of hyena people, with an interesting culture and religion which seems like what spotted hyenas would have if they became sentient. The comic itself is not bad.
>>29732228Haven't read that comic, would you mind to share and quick abstract on the gnoll culture?
>>29732164What exactly is the motivation for matriarchs to be nice to their serfs? We've established that they're bigger and toigher than the males.
>>29732221>medieval fantasy based off animePower of friendship and screaming will defeat the lonely villain!>yfw you realize most animes about a bunch of cool kids beating up on loners>>29732051>I have a dick in my mouth>now it's in my throat>>29732035Ah've never played Fatal. only heard bad things about it here. Bikini Barbarian Bimbos is a more fun pdf but I wouldn't want to play it a whole month.
>>29732324What's the motivation for anyone in power to be nice to their serfs, faggot?Jesus, your fedora is showing.
>>29732324Because society doesn't work if 'Might makes right'. That's why we moved away from that style of leadership in our real societies. >What exactly is the motivation for matriarchs to be nice to their serfs? We've established that they're bigger and toigher than the males.Basically asking "Why don't I beat up that guy for his car?"
>>29732324No serf, no cock, no off-spring.
>>29732310Well, it seems it can't be readed right now.They're matriarchal, living in tribes, just like we have already said. But the interesting thing is, they explain the difference between males and females by the way of religion: They had two gods, He-Is and She-Is, who had a child. But a demon made He-Is kill his child, and She-Is exiled him, reducing him to nothing, in ager. Due to the male god being exiled and honorless, the male half of the population became weaker. Also, due to the death of their first child, many hyena mothers and childrens die in the first pregnancy. I just find it cool, that their religion explains things about them, just as any religion should (They were created to v explain nature after all)
>>29732387I swear I'm not trying to be an asshole. In human societies, people in power know that if they act too much like dicks the peons will revolt. Also basic human empathy, but you can't count on that from a race evolved from predators. I'm not sure that the male gnolls CAN phisically rebel, since the females are bigger.
>>29731748>But who protects the unhabitated huts of the tribe when they're away.Nobody. A handful wouldn't be enough to protect it and more would wind up turning it into a permanent settlement.Nomads tend to bring everything important with them anyways.
>>29732447>implying humans aren't a predatory speciesIf we a raising Gnolls to sentience to the point where they can develop religion, culture, language, all the halmarks of society empathy then we need to also raise their empathy and sympathy to appropriate levels too.
>>29732127I agree it's probably better to focus on something that connects these three subraces, but I must say I find it difficult to establish credible cultures by creating one first and then assuming the other two were derived from the former.As such, I'd say we can agree on a highly tribal/familiar bond between gnolls, leading to rivalries and even open fights between hostile tribes that coincidentally settled in the same place.We may also agree on ancestral worship and ritualistic cannibalism, as the three cultures/subraces have originated from a highly nomadic culture that wouldn't let anything get to waste out of need for resources.Thirdly, we can agree on a highly vocal/rich oral tradition (cackling).Apart from that, I don't see why we can't already branch off a little.>>29732106The Aardwolf-Gnolls are probably >>29732138, with them being either underclass citizens (Spotted Gnolls), serfs and aides (Striped Gnolls). They might be closely related to the Brown Gnolls, they may even be a single tribe of them and they're actually brown gnolls but due to the isolation appear much smaller but have basically the same approach to culture.
And don't forget one of the most interesting facts about Hyenas that may make Gnolls more vilified: Typhoid Mary. Hyenas are immune, but still can carry, rabies. It wouldn't be insane to assume gnolls inherited some of the capacity to carry diseases that they themselves are strong against and just ignore and pass about their own population, making human contact messy and further causing diplomatic issues.
>>29732446Hmm, sounds cool.
Wait, gnoll serfs? Is this gnoll society suddenly feudal?
>>29732552Maybe there's an order of plague-warriors that are infected with rabies and lead skirmishes?
How long would a flesh tent like this last before it rotted away or something? Or could it be preserved somehow?
>>29732723It could be tanned, it looks like skins and not flesh.
>>29732657Possibly. I was thinking there would be more of a religious aspect to their immunity. Or maybe a festival or celebration dedicated to their immunity. >>29732723Tan the hide, it'll a long damn time.
>>29732740There's a face on it Anon
>>29732723Few days. It would be stinky long before that, and humid, so is unlikely it would be a good choice.However, tanned skin is another different topic.
>>29732101>prostitute>gives men ordersnope.
>>29732775Yeah, face skin, you know.
>>29732527>We may also agree on ancestral worship and ritualistic cannibalism, as the three cultures/subraces have originated from a highly nomadic culture that wouldn't let anything get to waste out of need for resources.I think the key here is the structure of the society. As we've described, Spotted Hyenas are matriarchical, while Brown Hyenas are leaning towards patriarchality and Striped more or less live in equal pairs. I'm thinking something inspired by >>29732446 that once they were all the same tribe which came to be ruled by an alpha male and an alpha female. Their firstborn was a large female with spots all over her body, their second born was a male with long brown hair and their third and fourth were a pair of striped twins. Then came their fourth child, but he was stunted and misformed who had no taste for meat, but only ate insects, he was the Aardwolf. After that there were no more children.This caused a split between the couple, and both accused the other for having been cursed by a demon. It ended with a great fight which left both of them dead.The conflict did not end there. Spot took the party of their mother, defending her honor, while Brown took that of their father. The two came almost as close as their parents had come just before to killing each other, before the Striped twins managed to part them. The twins knew that the family would no longer be able to stick together, and convinced their brother and sister to split the tribe between them. A third went with Spot, one third with Brown and one third with the Striped twins.However, not all went with the tribe, some were too weak or scared or did not live up to the standards of the older siblings, they went with the Aardwolf.>>29732723>>29732740Yeah, and even if it was flesh it could be dried and last for a long time.
>>29732789>Drug lord>not bossing people aroundnope.
>>29729129They speak infernal or some shit cause their god is a demon or devil or something.
>>29733322No, they speak Gnoll.
>>29733115>"And it is said and spoken, from Shaman to Shaman, the tale of Ma'jhil and Au'jhion, the queen and the knight [rough translation from Gnoll], who were as one. When the queen went to sleep, the knight rose to protect her and keep a watchful eye, for with her went the tribes of Gnoll, and when the queen rose, the knight knew his duty was done and he would go to rest. In those moments when queen and knight were eye to eye, they would embrace their love, and from their love came forth the ancestors of Gnoll: First was Ma'jhilloum, the princess, who was fierce and strong and who would not bow to any male. The second was Uolomen, the strider, and he would keep to himself for he was content with the gifts of the earth, but curious to learn from them. Third were Q'ahjima and T'nazima, brother and sister, and they travelled far and wide and learn the art of song and speech.>But then came the fourth, and his name was Tolomen, the Gnarled One, and the knight became furious, for he suspected his wife of infidelity. "Curse you, laying with the demons I fight everytime you go to sleep!" he cried, but the queen was furious, as well. "It is not I who lay with demons, but it must have been you, carrying their filthy diseases with you! This is how you defend us, me and the tribes: Bargaining, allying with them! Curse you, Curse you for each wound!" And she struck him with her claws, and eight wounds she caused. He struck back, and with eight wounds she was repaid.>And both lay bleeding, dying, their blood flooding the land, turning it into sicklish marshes. As they faded, their fury calmed and in tears, they left the world, but their spirits rise and fall with the sun, the moon and the stars.>It was now that Ma'jhilloum and Uolomen took their parents' duty and guided the tribes, but soon it was clear that neither could exist with oneanother, for the princess' fury conflicted with the strider's stern demeanor, and both were close to shedding blood.[cont.]
>>29732789So thats the only thing?But the whole cutting up rival gangs and rising to power in an insane amount of time is just forgotten?
>>29733510why are you responding to him
>>29733464>"It was now the brother and the sister intervened, separating their elder siblings, and bringing forth the Tolomen. ´Brother, sister, beloved ones, we cannot go on like this. The tribes wish to follow each and everyone of you, but you are not willing to allign as did mother and father. It is best we depart, though it saddens us, for we were always as one, Q'ajhima and T'nazima, and we had wished that we would be with you forever. The time has come to be not as one, but to be many - We will take those who wish to speak, to sing, to learn and see the world. Those who wish safety, strength and law shall follow Ma'jhilloum, and those who seek nothing but serenity and live as they have shall follow Uolomen.'">"Then the Gnarled One stepped forth and spoke: 'Ma'jhilloum, may I follow you, as well? I am weak and cannot live alone, but you are strong, you may defend me.' to which the princess replied: 'I will not take you, brother, for your weakness has no place in my fellowship. I seek the strong, the fierce, the willing - You have nothing to offer. I will, though, allow you to bide your time with me, for you are my brother still.'">"So Tolomen turned to the strider and asked: 'Brother, may I follow you? I am scared and cannot live alone, will you not give me peace and safety?' to which the strider replied: 'I cannot keep you, brother, like I would keep my fellowship. You fear is what binds you, but you are welcome in my home for you are my brother still.'">"And then he turned to the brother and the sister, but both interrupted him. 'We know your request, brother, but we cannot keep you, for you are meek and quiet and you would not learn our art as we would. You are welcome in our midst to bide your time, for you are our brother still.'"[cont.]
>>29732446Digger had some fantastic legends.Also, you you can't access the comics normally, but the image files still show up in google. Figuring out the right search terms is a bit tricky, though.
>>29733464>>29733720Keep up the good work, writefriend, for you are my nigger still
>>29733874Damn, just remembered the liver thing. The autor really made interesting legends. I hope it becomes easily readable again.
>>29733720>"So the Tolomen turned to tears and wished he would die, but when he fell asleep that night, the Ma'jhil and the Au'jhion visisted him in dream, and both said: 'Forgive us our fury, child, know that we have faith in you. You are small, yet quick, you seem afraid, but know that you are also cautious and attentive, and though you seldom speak, your words come with good thought and best intent. Yours is the gift that none of your siblings have, and we shall see to you the most as penance to our neglect. Those who seek enlightenment and wisdom shall follow you - Proclaim it tomorrow when you wake before the tribes go their paths.'">"And so it was that the tribes of Gnoll would meet, one last time, and mourn the end of their unity, celebrating midsummer's eve. On this day, Tolomen spoke to his few friends, and they knew by the spark in his eyes that he was true and many of the Gnoll followed him that day.">The tribes of the Q'ahjima and T'nazima went to the rivers, the seas and the coasts, far and away, over hill and mountain, and they were the first to meet the other races and were known as traders and bards. The tribes of the Ma'jhilloum went to the steppes, the foothills and the deserts where their strongholds rose and stroke fear into the hearts of lesser creatures. The tribes of the Uolomen went back into the marshes, but also to the grasslands, and they tended to the lands that the queen and the knight had travelled for so long.">"But the tribes of the Tolomen went to the mountains, where they lived for a time, then to the grasslands and the marshes to greet the Uolomen, to the plains to greet the Ma'jhilloum, and lastly to the waters to greet the Q'ajhima and the T'nazima, and they would stay with them for the longest, for they had brought much knowledge from abroad. The Tolomen now became restless, wandering like their brothers from the waters did, and they would become a common sight in the lands that were not native to the tribes of Gnoll."
>>29732101oooh I like this idea a lot. Very brutal and cunning.
>>29732789>Not knowing about the chinese pirate queen who had to be paid and given a noble title to stop ruining China>Yes I know I'm feeding the troll
>>29733735>>29733874>>29733914>>29733933>>29733940This is great! Thanks, Anon-Kun!
>>29733464>>29733720>>29733980Nice story. Where did you get the names?
>>29734157Came up with them, myself. I had a sort of stereotype african vibe when I started writing and just went with it.Thanks for enjoying my work, Anon.
>>29733464>>29733683>>29733980Nice adapation, just as I imagined.
>>29734310Glad I could help.i sort of think it's also a funny indication: The gnolls that adventurers meet most of the time are actually the "weakest" of all the Gnoll tribes, but they're still huge feral beasts that tear them a new one - And they're only the "scholars"!I can only imagine the hilarity when they get their shit wrecked when they meet the actual "Military" Gnolls (Ma'jhilloum)
>>29734099Anytime. It's a bit tricky, but if you want to read the rest of the comic you can do it by doing a truncated google image search for the image files. For example, this image is over at "http://diggercomic.com/comics/2007-06-08-wombat124-vampire.gif", so to find the rest of the comics from that month I'd search for "http://diggercomic.com/comics/2007-06", with a * at the end. The very first page of the comic is from February in 2007.
>"Seldomly spoken is the gift of plague that the tribes of Gnoll inherited. It is said and it is spoken, from shaman to shaman, the tale of the Jholmen, the Feathered One: He carries a mantle of dark feathers, and a host of flies follows him where he treads. He is one of the Ombeyzha, the shadow walkers, from the land beyond our sight, smell, taste, hearing and touch. He is the darkest one and where he walks, death follows. Not in furious battle, but in illness, defilement, gruesome plight. He is always hungry and he cares little for the living.>"It is said and it is spoken that he was once tyrant-king of the tribes of Gnoll and under his rule the tribes toiled away in terror and darkness. Then rose Ma'jhil and Au'jhion against him, to take his throne and cast him back into the shadow realm. Through cunning, will and strength, they entered his castle made of bones and carcasses, a mass of eerily living-dead flesh, where they challenged him to release his terrible hold over the tribes of Gnoll.">"The Jhomen laughed, and his laughter was eerie and hollow. 'You feeble things come to take my throne? You cannot hope to defeat me - But I know! I am a good one, you see, and I'll offer you this: Bring me the light of the sun, the well of all water and the breath of wind. Bring them to me and I will release your kin.'">"Ma'jhil and Au'jhion knew that, once the Feathered One would have the three, he would extinguish the sun so all the living things would grow pale and die, and he would poison all water so all who need drink it would become sick and perish and he would cage the breath of wind so all would choke and succumb, and forth all would be slave his shadow.>"So they conceived a plan - They asked one-thousand-thousand torchbeetles so they would fly as one and appear as the sun, and then they asked one-thousand-thousand birds to fly in circles and pretend to carry the breath of wind with them."[cont.]
>>29730005Religious wise they would have witch doctors would be most prevalent and quite possibly necromancers/summoners. militia wise females may not actually be all that good at tactics remember their much bigger/meaner then males thus would be more prone to just charging right in. So really their tactical class wouldn't be pure female there would also be some veteran(likely) male soldiers who will also be there. They would be quite popular especially if their young. To help counter the the females proneness to charging right in will most likely be the younger ones the older females whose heads would of likely cooled by then in addition to males would help with the strategy side. Male soldiers would exist but they wouldn't likely be the big ass fuckers trying to tear your fucking head off against common misconception among outsiders. Rather they will be covering the rampaging females and doing other roles.
>>29734901>militia wise females may not actually be all that good at tactics remember their much bigger/meaner then males thus would be more prone to just charging right in. So really their tactical class wouldn't be pure female there would also be some veteran(likely) male soldiers who will also be there.I dunno if I like the "they are big and strong, they much be rash/stupid" schtick. I think that there would be plenty of wizened up older females with enough experience and cunning to be leading troops in an effective manner. Especially considering that the female society is rife with political maneuvering where rash foolhardyness is hardly helpful.Still, I do think, having a clever young male aide around is popular and more than just fashion.
>>29734770>"But for the well of water, they devised another plan: They sought the shadow walker from the depths, Liom'jhil, the king of the tides. He was a nasty one, with pale skin and empty eyes, his breath always cold and his voice a rumble from the deep. 'Why do you seek me? You are people from the dryland, your kin does not concern me.'>"'We come with request, Strange One. Your brother, the one with feathers, demands we deliver the well of all water to him, but we know he would only use it to destroy us. We wish to trick him.'">"'Ah, I see. I have no love for my brother, and to see him fooled would amuse me. Take this pearl and tell him it is the well of all water - He has no great mind, he will believe it quickly.'">"'Thank you, Strange One! We shall hold this day in your honour!'" Ma'jhil and Au'jhion left and their promise kept true: In the time of the great monsoons, they would praise Liom'jhil and ask for mercy - The flooded lands brought the land to flower and lured much game into the hunting ground of the tribes of Gnoll.>"Now, with their allies with them, Ma'jhil and Au'jhion confronted the Jholmen, and he was delighted to see their presumed gifts. 'Ah, you brought my gifts! I release your kin, the other Ombeyzha be my witnesses!' And as he said those words, he reached out to crush the sun. The thousand-thousand torchbeetles broke formation and fled, afraid of his deadly touch. The Feathered One was surprised, but he believed the sun to be extinguished. Next, he wished to cage the breath of wind, but the birds fled his presence. Still, he was surprised, but believed the breath could not escape his halls, so he turned to the well of all water.">"He spat his plague-ridden spittle on the pearl and threw it into a lake, where all the fish immediately died and all the plants nearby withered. Satisfied, he returned home, thinking that tomorrow, all living things would be dead."[cont.]
>>29731908...hm so matriarchs offspring are noted to be much nastier but it is much harder for them to conceive.they also have massive psuedo penises>>29735060Which is why it was stated that older females were more prone to tactics once their heads cooled.
>>29735080>"The Jholmen was furious when he witnessed the sun rising, heralding a new days, the winds blowing across the plains and seeing how all waters not connected to the lake he had poisoned were still pure. 'Liars! Trickery! Cheaters! Oh, I cast all the plagues I know upon you, wherever you tread, you shall bring death and illness with you!'">"And as he spoke, swarms of flies and locust erupted from his towers, so many that they darkened the sun and all the tribes of Gnoll were afraid. Great famine and infertility came over them, and the tribes of Gnoll seemed destined to die. The swarms flew to Ma'jhil and Au'jhion and they inhaled all the wickedness, fearing to perish. But they did not - Instead, strange illnesses seemed to follow them, and for a time, they were outcasts, not allowed to enter the villages of the tribes of Gnoll. It was only after the year of the serpent had ended that the tribes of Gnoll had grown strong and resistant to the curse and welcomed the queen and the knight again. It was then that their children would mingle with the tribes of Gnoll and bestow upon them the gift of plague, that they would become resistant to all the perils of the world that is, but they would carry them to outsiders, still.">"From this day forth, when the tribes of Gnoll meet with the other races, they wash and embalm themselves in ointments and oils to cleanse themselves, hoping to spare their friends from their perils.">"Over time, the tribes of Gnoll discovered the perils would not spread by cleansing themselves regularly and not eating old carrion, a feat which the Q'ahjima had discovered first and foremost and helped them greatly on their travels."
>>29731556Hey we should hook up. :3
>>29735448Great idea m8. Just leave your credit card information in the thread and your social security number and I'll be sure to get back to you as soon as possible. :P
Somethings always been bothering me.Why are gnolls so fucking tall? Like, the monster manual lists them as nearly 7ft tall and too me that doesn't seem.. correct?Also for that matter: Why are Gnolls always placed within very un-hyena-like environments?
>>29732526>thinks human societal changes can be applied to hyena peopleYa it can't unless you're a hugbox warrior which you really sound like.>inb4 it's fantasy you can make gnolls however you want.
>>29735575Why shouldn't they be tall? I personally have the biggest Matriarchs be Large size.Hyenas are not small creatures.
>>29735716I want to dump gnoll pictures now, but its way too late in the thread to do it...
Somebody needs to archive this
>>29735998It's on foolz. /tg/ and a few other boards are automatically archived.
In my headcanon, Painted Dogs are also a type of Gnoll because they fill the same ecological niche as hyenas and they have a very unique social hierarchy. And they're just damn pretty.
>>29730740Jesus, that guy's such a douche."hurr durr im a hunter look at me im so badass"
>>29736426Doesn't look much like a Gnoll to me.
>>29736553Campaign world, whatever.
>>29736665If gnolls are nomadic people you'd think that their metalworking is very rudimentary or non-existent. They'd probably not make metal tools and weapons and have to rely on things they can steal or trade for. Perhaps that's one of the reasons for taking slaves, to ransom them back?
>>29731129I think anon was reacting to the lack of pseudopenis and femdom.
>>29728264Make them native americans
>>29736760I think we have ruled a part of the gnoll society would be mainly merchants, so quite probably metalwork would be something highly prized by them. However, I don't get what a nomadic tribe society like the hyena could offer to more civilized races.
I bet the males practice on each other before going to meet any females. This way, they'll be ready for whatever. In the end, they realize that they like doing things with their bros more since they tend to be more gentle. This is why all male gnolls are gay as fuck.
>>29736890As I said, their loved ones back unharmed.
>>29731431Lol, ok. There were actual matriarchal societies in human history, you know. In Africa I guess.
>>29736760Well the Gnoll with the metal is the Matriarch, so if anyone would have them, it would be her. And that could easily be a reason for taking slaves, yes.
>>29736895That...might make sense, actually. In societies where males and females live mostly segregated homosexuality is more common.Perhaps lone gnoll males without tribes easily end up as male prostitutes in cities due to their submissive natures?
>>29736962>responding to four hours old troll posts
>>29736890You're assuming Gnolls would even care about the civilized races or their so-called civilization. The nomadic/tribal ones at least.
>>29736991Problem is that submissive lone male gnolls would most likely be adopted into a new tribe.
>>29736991>>29736895Remember this:>>29728934The male gnolls literally dream with sticking their cocks into another cock, how much more gay than that you can get?
>>29736991>>29737034>>29737046>Not having a qt crossdressing Gnoll bitchslave manservantIt's all I want.
>>29736991>be lone male gnoll selling body for dosh in city>watch tribe of gnolls walk in>holyshit look at those muscular dudes>female leads them all>See her package through her jeans>it's big enough to tear me in half>she notices me staring>shit shit whatdoIdo>asks me to get over there>nope.jpg>commands me to get over there>gotta think of something fast>I-I had burritos for dinner>she smiles>"than I guess I don't need lube."In the end it turned out alright. Just when it was about to get painful, I shit on her and ran for it. I managed to hide in the bar for three hours before falling asleep on the toilet.
>>29737093Why do all the threads involving anthros eventually devolve into shameless manlust?
>>29737140what the fuck
>>29737144Because that's what furfags do.
>>29737198That doesn't mean that's what /tg/ does. There aren't any furries on /tg/.
>>29737140>should not want.jpg
>>29731636>neglecting to mention Elizabeth ISuch a shame when something doesn't fit your narrative.
>>29737281If there aren't any furries on /tg/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, then why does every thread involving anthros here involve some aspect of hard gay manlust? It's happened in almost every thread in the last year. It's kinda cute, and I don't object to it at all, but it never used to be this way. Who other than a furry wants a furry husbando?
>>29737380They probably don't really. It's like how the guys sometimes like monthser girls. That does not always mean taht they are a furry. They might just be the perv. Who dont want muscles on their back? No one.
>>29737467>that finger placementReal subtle, not.
>>29737380They are probably just trying to make a joke. Furries are hated around here. This board was made to accommodate those who hate furries. I find it hard to believe that people actually want to fuck animals on here.
>>29737514>Furries are hated around here.Nah.> I find it hard to believe that people actually want to fuck animals on here.Yeah.
>>29737514>Furries are hated around here. This board was made to accommodate those who hate furries. I find it hard to believe that people actually want to fuck animals on here.0/10
>>29737505She's wearing a loincloth though.
>>29737643Jesus Christ someone saved my shitscribbles. That was a fun thread, though, pity that the OP disappeared.
On Gnoll raiders and marauders.Gnolls are, in general, rather isolationist, seldom leaving their territories, still most know them as savage raiders and marauders, praying to demonic gods. While this is a very false picture of true Gnoll society and its intricacies, there is a truth to the matter. While it is rare for a whole Gnoll tribe to raid the settlements of other races (often preferring to steal cattle of other nearby tribes instead) it does happen, this primarily happens if the settlement has been built on Gnoll lands and only after the Gnolls have issued a warning (at least according to them, as human olfactory senses aren't as keen as theirs and that they can't understand the meaning of their cackling laughs doesn't seem to bother the Gnolls). Gnolls will however, happily accept travellers and sometimes even nomads passing by their lands.There are, of course, exceptions, broadly speaking you can divide them into three groups.The first group is the most vicious of the three and consist of exiled Gnoll males. Among Gnoll males, submission is a virtue and aggression a sin, it is often the most aggressive males that either flee their clans or become exiled away from them. Dispossessed and pariahas in the eyes of their society it is not odd that they instead choose to embrace the darkness that corrupted their male ancestor. It is these bands that have the most rumors circulating among them, as they are also the ones that are most likely to aggressively attack the settlements of humans or other more civilized races.
>>29737772The second group is similar to the first, but fundamentally different in that there is a female to lead the pack. This female is often a loser in some power-struggle in a clan, who is banished from the clan's lands together with any supporters of hers (often her sisters, cubs, father and brothers). Leaving their clan's lands often puts them into conflict with others already living there and raiding become a necessity for survival in a world of competition. It is not unusual for these bands to swallow up any groups of all-male bands that they may encounter, although as a result the leading female must become even more aggressive to maintain her dominance over the new males. Again, among these groups, turned away from their society it is not uncommon for them to start worshipping demons and dark gods, although it is more rare than among all-male groups.The last group is as close to a sanctioned attack outside the territory that Gnolls do and consists of a female looking to better her status, who leaves the clan for an indefinite amount of time, often accompanied by her family and most trusted ones. While temporarily separated from the main Gnoll clan, in most cases they are intending to return and rejoin the clan in the future (it also happens that they join another clan instead or form their own), returning with loot, riches and experiences to cement a higher space in the Gnoll society. These bands will too attack the settlements and properties of more civilized races, but more discriminately than the other two types of groups.
>>29737740They were amusing.
Wait, so you guys are trying to tell me you actually like this shit? I thought maybe it was part of the joke about how ridiculous furries can get. I thought you guys were acting all desperate and kinky as a means to be funny. Now, I don't know what to think. It's almost sad how quickly I'm starting to hate this board. And to think it took me 3 months to hate /b/.
>>29737859You should go back to /b/ until you can cope with the possibility that people like things you don't like.
>>29737859Please, hate us.
>>29735998http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/29728264/There we go.
>>29737796Ehh, might as well.
>>29736890Maybe they could trade slaves from their raids. Think about it for a moment.Or maybe they can sell their services as mercenaries, that could work too.In case of trade goods, they could sell their charms to other tribes, or maybe even sell their disease?
>>29738978>or maybe even sell their disease?I'm curious, what do you mean by this?
>>29728409>Generally misunderstoodNah, cannibalistic demon worshipping savages is pretty on the mark
>>29739210But they're not bad people, really.
>>29737380Furrys are now defined as those who believe they are spiritually animals or those who fursuit. Being attracted to other species falls under xenophile, because all of /tg/ is dedicated to the great dream of fucking everything.