Holy shit. Ive been waiting for this for the longest.

Having laid your hands upon the frozen threshold, you feel the hum of your power transmit through your veins, intermingling with something as you attempt to move the frozen water.
The heat of sorcery builds into a warmth within your veins as you touch the ice which presents to you a false sort of cold.

Your ministrations force the door at least in twain, cracking and slowly pushing it apart to an interior dazzled by the light of the colorful sky. The ice's prismatic effect lets colors of all sorts and varieties spill into the room, an incredible display belied only by the presence of the dead.
Those that had once been festering beneath a murky water, now low below a frozen sheet of saltwater, preserved in their final moments like a gallery amidst spilled over grocery, and the checkout.

Your "associates," the woman and Hunter step beside you, looking within with their own awe mixed with fear and worry. The other group that had desired first pickings become nervous and fidget.
The flat-chested muscle-woman steps up behind you, as her presence and shadow weigh upon you.
"You stay outside, we'll get the food." You turn to look at her with your "good" eye, and smile, as the big man from earlier come into view as well, forcing you to smile a bit nervously.
She's not scared of going in there, huh? A thought occurs that after she and the big guy are in there, you could seal over the exit and trap them inside. Maybe blame it on the phenomenon? No, they might catch your glow.
Further, you were sent here to guide them to the college. But... Why is it that you kind of want to kill them? To spare them from the path of blood? To spare yourself from competition in the path of enlightenment?
Cheap thrills?

Who knows what may look down upon you, or smile upon you for such a merciless and deceitful act.

Ohh, hey, awesome. Totally up for this.

>[] Have the woman and Hunter distract the others while you weave ice over the entrance.
>[] Forget those thoughts for now and go inside after them. They don't control you, and you'd like to see what's causing this.
>[] Who needs deceit? Let's see if you've figured out how to make ice and shoot one?
>[] Talk to the ones outside, maybe they can be persuaded to go to the college?(Suit, Little girl, and young lady are left.)
>[]Talk to your acquaintances about magic.
>[] (Other)

Hope the music video seems appropriate.
If not, I'll try to snag a gregorian chant or something overly holy for the theme of working with The Followers.

Jeez, it's been a while. I have to go back and read up on stuff.

For now, let's choose the least murderous option.

>[] Forget those thoughts for now and go inside after them. They don't control you, and you'd like to see what's causing this.

>>29613864
The previous thread had a good synopsis up top.

It wasn't archived though and foolz is down, I'm going to pull up everything for Sup/tg/ archival as soon as I can.

https://twitter.com/Overhuman_Quest
I keep forgetting to put this in the OP.

>power in our veins mentioned repeatedly
I thought we be nerve?
>>29613808
>[] Talk to the ones outside, maybe they can be persuaded to go to the college?(Suit, Little girl, and young lady are left.)

>>29613939
>>power in our veins mentioned repeatedly
>I thought we be nerve?

Yeah, that's a mistake. Nerve. Nerve. Asher's a nerve.

>>29613741
>within your nerves*

>>29613808
>[] Talk to the ones outside, maybe they can be persuaded to go to the college?(Suit, Little girl, and young lady are left.)

Chat for now. If the other group comes out of there unscathed we can ask about the stuff in there and see what has changed, or look into it ourself.

For now we may as well persuade some people. See what they know about what's happened so far, fill them in on a missing detail or two and then tell them about the college.

You linger outside, standing back a little and shoving your hands into your own dry pockets, looking upon the others opposite your stance that don't quite have that luxury in this oozing wound of a city.

The suit looks at you with a bit of suspicion, though the young lady and girl seem to have let their guard down. A random stranger, looking like them only with his clothes dry as a bone, coming by with two others and prying open something they have no clue about must look quite suspicious.
That's lucky for you.
The Suit's face looks weathered ten years from the last 24 hours, the little girl seemingly no more than eight or ten hides behind the man, the young lady stares at you, though it's with a peculiar sort of naivete.
"So," You'll start this off smooth, smooth as you can while the others aren't here to contradict you. You've got the advantage in terms of "thinking minds" right now, even if the Woman might not really count as one. "How'd you guys meet up? Someone grab you from the wave too?"
The suit's lips are puckered kind of tight, but he manages to pry them open," Lots of things happened, but yeah. I was driving my daughter home from school after she threw up, and all of a sudden there was nothing but water. Everything went black, then there was a lot of light, kind of like the sky. When I came to, some goddam ni-" His eyes flick down to the girl,"niiimrods went and threatened my girl with an arm that changed into a sword. They hadn't even touched a hair on her head before I broke free from one that was holding me. They let us alone after that. Though they said the child would be cursed until she woke up. Whatever that means."

Curses now? You look to the young lady,"Funny, thought you'd talk first."
She averts her gaze from your single-eyed one, touching her stomach affectionately.
"I'd... rather not talk about it."

You leave it at that.

>[] Tell them your own story, honestly and plainly, direct them to the College.
>[] Lie about your story, and direct them to the college, lying about what'll happen there too.
>[] Omit the guidance to the college.
>[] Wish them luck and carry onto the beachfront.
>[] The other two are taking too long, enter the store.

https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/29520175
Previous thread.

Making an auxiliary thread to post and then delete after archiving.

Well, after going through the third thread it appears that we like the college now, for reasons. With that in mind:

>[] Lie about your story, and direct them to the college, lying about what'll happen there too.

Lie through your teeth because telling a man to go to a slaughterhouse is not the greatest of ideas.

>>29614412
>[] Lie about your story, and direct them to the college, lying about what'll happen there too.

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While I read through the fourth thread, have some unfortunate news about Susej.

>>29614387
Lie about our story, we should not tell them that we're with the Followers. Keep most of the events true because it's easier to tell the truth than lie, and about a lot of stuff it doesn't matter if they know. But omit details and lie in things that they shouldn't know.

Direct them to the College, tell them that the Followers, the ones who did this are offering to teach everyone the basics of magic, even the ones who plan to kill them.

>>29614528
>we like the college now, for reasons.

>Lie through your teeth because telling a man to go to a slaughterhouse is not the greatest of ideas.

I recall at the end of Petyr's whole thing, people were wanting to do an antagonistic run of Overhuman. Here it is, Asher can be a super-powered pragmatic liar and murderer out for his own gain and survival.
Your choice, not mine, and I actually like it a lot.

>>29614634
I feel retarded now. This is some Alucard/Dracula shit right here.

Rolled 10 + 5

>>29614652
We shouldn't tell them that they are the ones who did this. Say that word is going around somebody there knows what happened and is gathering survivors to make their next move.

>>29614731
They'll find out about them being the ones who did this pretty quickly. It's not like they're trying to hide it.

>>29614712
I haven't seen a proper scumbag pragmatist quest protag since Max Power. I hope Asher will do us proud.

>>29614722
>>29614634

Hah, I wondered how long that would take.
Will you work for the anti-christ or won't you?

>>29614722
>>29614770
Yes, we shall truly fall to our knees in terror before the maddening gaze of Sausage.

>>29614760
But they'll be less likely to go there immediately if they know that the people who did this are there. Let's just make it seem like it is a place for survivors.

>>29614412
[] Lie about your story, and direct them to the college, lying about what'll happen there too.

Don't make it sound implausible, we've heard they've got food, shelter, and someone knows more about what's going on and this whole magic thing.

You tell them your story, relaxing greatly with the lack of those other two of their party looking over you.

You speak plainly and honestly as far as when it comes to what they should know. You tell them about the group you were getting back to on the coast-line, how you met your two friends right here at the college, and the people that have gathered there know something about the "magic" though you avoid that word. You throw in that there's food and shelter too. Maybe that'll entice them?
The suit seems a little wary, but doesn't say anything until you're finished with your story. You even include the bit about how you've gotten an alright grasp on your power just by kind of using it.

"So, the people there know what's going on?" The man asks, giving his daughter a little pat on the head, the girl still not saying anything to you.
"Yeah, they've figured out more than me at least."
The young lady crosses her arms, looking a bit skeptical,"What about those black helicopters?"
"Those?" You look up at one still circling around in the distance, the dull beat of its propeller even heard from here. You shake your head, for a moment, you kind of think of them as the enemy. A looming black death. Government intervention? What are they going to do with you if they get their mitts on you? Experiment? Brainwash you? What could they be capable of now when they're pushed by loss?

A bead of sweat forms upon your brow as you take too long tio answer with those thoughts spilling into your head.
"Don't know much about them," You admit, though your associates eye them kind of cautiously,"But it might be best to find out from the people at the college."

The young lady sucks in her breath and shifts nervously, her eyes to the sky, apprehension beating through her more delicate form,"It's scary isn't it? First a wave wipes out the city, black people torture us, and then they stand on the ruins... I saw one of the helicoptors get taken out. It flew low and one of those people kicked it into the ground. I... didn't really believe it. any of this. Tried to pinch myself."

You give her a shrug, dismissing her worry a little to undermine your own,"We'll deal with it, for now we have to worry more about survival."

The woman tugs at your shirt and you look at her, turning your whole face to see her with your eye.
"Um, Asher. Those two haven't come out yet, should they be taking this long?" She whispers, her eyes nervously flickering to the others. She doesn't seem to like being here, she's really nervous.
Hunter's gaze keeps flickering back to the entrance you made, his gaze then falls onto you with a sort of "hurry up" look.

>[] Bid the group farewell and carry onto the beach.
>[] Go inside the frozen store.
>[] Ask where the heli was kicked down.
>[] Return to the college, this is enough, isn't it?
>[] (Other)

>>29615367
>"It's scary isn't it? First a wave wipes out the city, black people torture us

Uh, it wasn't just black people in that group, was it? Actual question here. I think that guy Friend was black, but was EVERYBODY black?

Also

>[] Go inside the frozen store.
Let's go find out if fish lady got turned into a fishstick.

>>29615367
>[] Go inside the frozen store.

>>29615367
>>[] Go inside the frozen store.

>>29615367
I'm curious, but not curious enough to risk ourselves on this one.

>[] Bid the group farewell and carry onto the beach.

Wave goodbye, say it was nice meeting them.

>>29615449

I think all the 'walk in peace' guys are African, yeah. Could be wrong tho.

>>29615367

>[] Go inside the frozen store.

Let's go join the party.

>>29615449
>but was EVERYBODY black?
Everyone you've seen so far as part of The Followers has been of African descent.

>>29615449
>fish lady
You last saw Eshe at the College. If her pattern's consistent, she should be watching things from atop the buildings again today.

By the way, I'm against taking the Oath of Truth. The ability to lie is just too great an advantage to give up. We should find another oath.

>>29615583
You can still get pretty far by withholding information and misleading people, but yeah, lying is useful as hell.

>>29615559
>Everyone you've seen so far as part of The Followers has been of African descent.

Oh. Okay then.
Just so you know, I could take that fact very badly. But I'm going to trust you here, and trust that you have a reason for this.

>You last saw Eshe at the College
Oh, I thought she was in there. Decision still stands though, I'm still voting to go into the store.

>>29615583
Let's take the Oath of Poverty!

or to make people really mad, we could take an oath of celibacy

>>29615583
>>29615623
>>29615654

I wonder if we can have an Oath of Blood or something. Like we can spill the blood of another enlightened.

Lying is too good to give up, as was previously said.

>>29615654
Celbacy all day, everyday

>>29615654
If this quest gets popular, the QTG is just going to bitch about how "Dranule hates black people".

I can hardly wait...

>>29615654
>>29615772
>Oh. Okay then.
>Just so you know, I could take that fact very badly. But I'm going to trust you here, and trust that you have a reason for this.
I'm actually half-black. Omar's ethnicity made me laugh a little bit.
There is a reason for it. It's where they're from. Africa.
Africans currently have the highest population of Overhumans. Intervention increased tensions, leaders arose, one of which is Susej, and that has invariably led to this attack from his group.

Note that this is indeed the West Coast.

>>29615740
I'd take this, but I'd like to know all the Oaths so we can decide on the best. Celibacy is good though. No downsides.

>>29615784
Normally I would agree with you, that there are no downsides to a celibacy oath. However, /tg/ REALLY likes waifus.

Celibacy might screw with that.

>>29615740
Fucking forms emotional bonds between people that we can make use of. Also, it's enjoyable.

As long as we remain as pragmatic in our love life as we do the rest of it.

>>29615783
Africa still has a decent white population, and there's been a good bit of intermingling.

Your eyes follow Hunter's, the pull of curiosity quite strong. The other two that disappeared through that threshold have not said anything, yet neither have they expressed any distress.
It's odd, you had thought-

A howling scream erupts from the frozen door, yet it pierces your ears and chills your bones like nails on chalkboard. Nothing human could ever make such a sound.
Everyone holds their ears in agony as it slowly dies down from its peak.

"---- --- ----?" You try to speak, yet you can't hear your own words. The world rings before you begin to hear the faraway beats of helicopter blades again and you repeat what you tried to say.
"What was that?"
Hunter's body glows with a verdant green as he slips by the threshold, hunkering down low like an animal stalking prey,"Don't know, definitely came from inside.

The Suit recovers,"What the hell was that man?!" Everyone's starting to panic. There's something in there, and- You hear the sound of ice breaking from within, the dull creak like the cracking of bones and the shattering of ice.
Hunter leans in a little bit,"Something's mov- No, thrashing in there."

>Do you really go in? Facing danger. meeting objectives, and befriending potential teachers is often what will garner a LIMIT point, however some dangers are better left alone, or retreated from...
>[] You've got balls, and you're a man. Go inside and kill whatever made that fucked up sound.
>[] Retreat, this isn't for you to deal with.
>[] Seal it up, at least you can protect these other three.
>[] (Other)

>>29616009
>Africa still has a decent white population, and there's been a good bit of intermingling.

I haven't ignored this. You'll see some others. It just happens that those that follow SusejRight now are primarily black.

>>29616046
Let's not go in, fighting whatever did that in those close quarters, fuck that.

We've got open space right here. Let's plan an ambush and murder the fucking shit out of it.

What's the environment like nearby? What usable features are there? Any cars? Any improvisable weapons? If we gave Hunter a spear or something like that he could be more effective. If there's nothing good nearby, then try growing a solid spear out of ice for him.

Talk to the people around us who aren't our team, ask what powers they have and what they do.

>>29616046
I was about to say the first option, but >>29616170 has a much better idea. Let's try looking around as fast as we can, and see if we can set up an ambush. With our current speed of water to ice conversion, we wouldn't be able to hold the thing back before it broke through, so we should prepare while we can.

>>29616046

>[] You've got balls, and you're a man. Go inside and kill whatever made that fucked up sound.

Tell the suit and the two girls to get somewhere safe. Not too close but not to far..l

Then let's go kill some freaks.

>>29616170
I like the idea to lure it out for an ambush.

If it's ice-element, then SURPRISE STEAM should be pretty nasty for it.

>>29616170

I'd like to stay close enough to the mass of ice to be able to use it against that thing. If we can do that while staying out in the open, ill vote for that. If not, we have the advantage of everything being made of water in the store. Besides, we might need that LIMIT Point later on.

>>29616170
The parking lot's cars have mostly been swept away, though the remains of the vehicles exist, dashed here and there.

A thin veil of water no deeper than a moistening on the surface of the parking lot exists here. It could amount to a decent orb or two of water if you drew it out.

Unfortunately, you aren't quite adept enough in your ability to create ice to give hunter a proper spear.
>You see him pick up an errant shard of glass in preparation. For as hard as he clutches it, he does not bleed.

The Woman with you seems the most worried about what lies within, she does not appear in good condition for combat.

The suit grabs up his daughter, it looks like he's ready to cut and run.
The Young Lady though, seems to be willing to stay. Or unwilling as her knees buckle from that horrible scream, her veins beat erratically with a Magenta, completely unstable.

The Ice of the glacier is also under your dominion, though it's still kind of weird controlling it, it's easier to manipulate should you thaw it.

>You are luring it to the entrance. What do you have in mind to draw it out?
>Hunter informs that he sees the Amazon in there, she's dodging something that looks like a ghost or something.

>>29614387
>some goddam ni
Ahhh, she was going to say "nigger" wasn't she?

>>29616534
He wasn't going to say something polite.

>>29616465
Let's see here... the glacier is in the inside of the building, is it not? Would it be possible to thaw it out from here? If so, let's try getting some of that water over here nearer to us, to increase the resources we have available to us.

Also,
> It could amount to a decent orb or two of water if you drew it out.

Yeah, let's do that. Not exactly sure what we're going to do with the water, but getting it ready couldn't hurt.

>>29616465
I... uh...

errrm.

Huh. I don't think steam will hurt ghosts. So... Huh.

>>29616567
>Let's see here... the glacier is in the inside of the building
The glacier has pretty much covered the building inside and out. You found it to be hollow once you opened it up.

>>29616577
Should try anything at least once.

>>29616465
Let's take this giant glacier under our control. It can be our home away from home.

>>29616465
What does our Aquatic Perception tell us about what's going on inside? Or is it not accurate enough for that.

Thaw out a pile of water around the entrance we made, inside and outside of it, we'll be turning it into steam.

We could use the Amazon to draw it out, just have someone yell for her to come this way and run out the entrance. Hunter hides above the entrance, ready to jump down on something coming out of the place

We'll be somewhat nearby and as soon the ghost thing gets to the water we explode it into steam and burn the fuck out of it, and that should leave it somewhat unaware so Hunter can leap down from his perch and ambush it right afterwards.

Make sure the Vein girl we're with has stuff to use to throw.

>>29616637
An alternative way to lure the ghost if the amazon isn't helping is to take a look inside the building and turn ice around the ghost to steam and herd it outside, damaging and disorienting it with steam as it goes.

>>29616637
>Aquatic Perception
Currently it only informs you of the presence of water. If you focus hard enough, you can sense the ripples through it. You aren't quite sure how you do this yet, but it won't work on the glacier.

You do feel some kind of disturbance working within the confines of the ice now that you pay attention to it. Different from the water you've used before.

>Writing
Good strategies for Asher.
Oh, and you still have the half-empty water bottle.

>>29616707
Just make sure we keep our distance from the building. And if possible stand behind some sort of cover, something we can hide behind if we're shot at.

Y'know, water expands both when it freezes and when it boils.

So that means that if we take a water glob and freeze the outside while simultaneously steaming the inside, it will explode like a particularly nasty fragmentation grenade.

Can we try it some time?

You immediately start running to generate some distance, as you call back,"Hunter, get ready to hit it in the back. Tell that Amazon bitch to run the fuck out!"
"What are you doing man?!" He yells back to you.
"Cover!" You return as you slide behind an overturned, drenched car.

A ghost, huh? Well, it should surprise you, but then again...
You slowly curl your fingers in, letting your power pulse through your nerves as you crush out a portion of the glacier with your power. You feel a notable resistance in trying to get it to melt, yet manage just fine in breaking some up as you throw it to the Woman as she still just stands there.
"Ammo, throw it when you see it!"

She snaps out of her funk, and releases her power as it beats out in a dark black gray, she shakily picks up multiple ice fragments near her, and draws them close and in front of her. You can kind of feel her panic from here, and see her breathing hard with fear against the unknown.
So long as she isn't worthless.

With the residual dull burning in your arms, you gather together what water you can feel in the area, leaving the pavement just about bone-dry, and leaving you with a decently sized orb about a foot across that you divide into two smaller orbs as they seem to surge and bubble with your own rapidly beating heart, steam already begins to pour off of them as you prepare for what's to come.

The amazon bursts out from the store, covered from head to toe in a frost, her body lit up in a verdant green, not unlike Hunter's. Following her, is a ghastly woman clad in white, with frosted moisture pouring off after her form and partially intangible. She barely looks like a human. Jaws outstretched more than twice what they should be, icy teeth flickering in the multicolor tints of the aurora, her own body a mockery of the blues in the sky with a frosted glow.

She shrieks again, like the howl of winter, and you cover your ears, your water falling to the ground, your mind destabilized.
The Amazon rushes past the woman, and the shoddy bits of ice protecting her do little to defend against the wraith's path as she stands in it.

With a single swipe of a blacked frozen claw, your associate, whom you've never heard the name of is slashed through by the fingers of winter.
A frozen hunk of flesh flies at the Amazon, whom ducks down without looking, plants a hand upon the wet ground and flips around.
She takes a single breath and charges at the wraith in a tackle, not unlike a football player.

For a moment, you'd think that she'd pass through the spirit, yet she picks it up amidst the tackle, even as frost forms, and drops the apparition against the ground.
The Amazon's eye flickers from you, to hunter, and your fallen comrade, as she takes a leap back with her fist raised and a foot forward, ready to fight the thing.
"Bleeds, we can kill it, right?!" She yells out, just after your ears recovery. At this rate you'll be missing an eye and two ears...

You sense the presence of water from this thing, and something else. Like you're looking at not a monster, but a really scared and angry... person?

>[] Pick up your water and press steam for a counterattack.
>[] Strategic retreat, this isn't what you asked for.
>[] Try to bind it with water. Maybe if you slow it dowm, the amazon can get some better hits against it?
>[] (Other)

>Your nerve's burning is currently: mild

>>29617265
>>[] Strategic retreat, this isn't what you asked for.
Fuck this shit, son. This isn't surviving.

>>29617265
>[] Try to bind it with water. Maybe if you slow it dowm, the amazon can get some better hits against it?

Besides that, everybody else can rush the thing. Plus if we want to stay back and use the others, it's best for us to bind the thing so we aren't in the line of fire, but we can still say that we helped.

>>29617265
>You sense the presence of water from this thing
>[] (Other)
Cook the ghost with its own steam. Boil the fucker.

>>29617265
Well, I'm annoyed that the Vein girl we were with didn't accomplish anything.

The thing has water on it, right? Turn it to steam if possible.

If that doesn't work, or if it doesn't do too much damage pick up some water and turn it into steam as we throw it at the thing.

If that doesn't do serious damage then we should probably just skedaddle and try to make it out alive.

>>29617488
>Well, I'm annoyed that the Vein girl we were with didn't accomplish anything.
Veins kind of suck to start with if their response is fear.

>>29617547
Maybe she'll die

You stare at the thing for a moment in a stunned silence as your face slowly turns into a grimace at the call of the amazon.
She died and accomplished nothing, what a useless... How did she even make it out of that brawl last night?!
Hmph, at least you know why you did. You cast out your right hand, staring at the ghost fiercely as you let your power flow, with that thing as the target.

A spirit? With water inside of it? What did friend say?
>"Nerves change the very sea of thought itself, and thus also reality."

It's cryptic, and doesn't really make sense but... If you target this thing...
You slowly and deliberately close for fingers as your major nerves sear through your skin with your own cyan blue.

The wraith spins itself up, and looks directly at you, her overlarge jaw beginning to open to unleash another scream, only now cut short with an uppercut from the amazon.
"Don't look away bitch!" She screams as she brings her right hand around for a hook, blazing with her green energy as she steps back to assess the damage of her foe.

Hunter prowls the background, staring at the thing ready to pounce, yet waiting... Or is that fear from him? Stupid kid likes to act, but he must not be a fighter.

Then again, neither are you.

Energy flares up from your fingers and you grit your teeth against the pain as you feel something break through to your target.
The Wraith seems disoriented from the amazon's blow, yet something else is happening, something else seems.. wrong.
The amazon steps in as the creature attempts to scream, or perhaps even retreat back to her lair. It's too late though.

With a jab, to throw the thing off of its stability, a straight to knock it back, another step in, and a blow to the stomach of its form, it's knocked back only for the amazon to cast it further with a kick, steam now beginning to pour off of her own body.

You readjust your targeting and don't give up quite yet. just a little more you tell yourself... Just a little.. The wraith's body begins to fall apart. An arm falls to the ground, bursting into steam. Her lower body evaporating away as you commit yourself to its burning.
It looks at you, reaching out with its remaining arm even as it progresses into steam, the aura of its form vanishing just as well.

The last thing you see is a single frozen tear running from her cheek and dropping to the pavement as it's complete.

Your head throbs in agony, and your harm feels like you just stuck it inside an oven as the bright consistent glow reminds you of your recent use of power, only gradually fading.

>The wraith has been killed.
>1 LIMIT point received.

>[] Check on the Woman.
>[] Ask the Amazon what happened.
>[] Walk into the store.
>[] Go to the Beachfront. You're done with this place.
>[] (Other)

>Your nerve's burning is currently: Severe

>>29618042
>>[] Go to the Beachfront. You're done with this place.
We can't handle anything else.
Let's find a safe place to lose consciousness.

Oh, right. It dropped a frozen tear if you want to pick that up.
Wanted to mention that.

>>29618042
>[] Ask the Amazon what happened.

>>29618042
>Ask Amazon what happened

>>29618110
>Oh, right. It dropped a frozen tear if you want to pick that up.
Yes, please.

>>29618042
>>[] (Other)
Rest for a second until it feels like our nervous system isn't made of fire anymore.

>[] Ask the Amazon what happened.
>[] Check on the Woman.

>>29618110
Yes. See if we can pocket it.

>>29618042
Okay, no more magic for a bit. Take a deep breath.

[X] Check on the Woman.

See if she still has a pulse and how extensive the damage is. As we're doing this chat with the Amazon. Ask if there was anything else in there, thank her for helping out against the wraith, ask what happened inside the store.

Question about spending Limit Points, do we have to spend points to upgrade all of the subschools of water control, or do we upgrade it as a unit? Also, damn, things get expensive to upgrade.

>>29618110
Of course we want that. Make picking it up the first thing we do, if someone notices and objects point out that we're curious and might be able to do something with it. If no one notices then just pocket it, we'll experiment with it later.

I would like to upgrade steam. Steam is the shit.

>>29618042
>[] Check on the Woman.
Is she alive? Good. Dead? Oh well. Then
>[] Walk into the store.
TIME FOR LOOTING

>>29618234
I think it costs 2 points to upgrade something from Novice to Apprentice, we have 1.

And I would really like Mythos Summoning.

>>29618110
OBTAIN PHAT LOOT

>>29618042
I hope the Amazon ends up as part of the Followers, she's one of the few competent people we've met so far and I'd prefer her to be on our side.

>>29618206
>Question about spending Limit Points, do we have to spend points to upgrade all of the subschools of water control, or do we upgrade it as a unit? Also, damn, things get expensive to upgrade.

The sub-schools of water must be upgraded separately, though they will benefit from water mastery.

If you upgrade steam alone however, you'll become more proficient in just that.
You ask, what's the bonus? Why should we put points into exclusive sub-categories?
Because steam can unlock pyrokinesis which can lead to pyromancy and divination.
Ice can lead to Cryokinesis which can lead to other magics.

It becomes a question of how you guys want to branch out. Or whether you want to focus on one particular thing.

You also have a new magic available from learning Ice.

>Materia Firma(Water)
It's at the bottom of the pastebin.

>>29618280
I dislike Mythos for Asher. Willful summons capable of subversion and sabotage seem like the kind of things that a pragmatic scumbag would not want to use.

>>29618408
Being able to summon cosmic horrors sounds like a thing that might be helpful in the future. So let's go with that.

>>29618462
nah, I also kind of like full water control, no summonings

>>29618436
I think we can manage to play nice with them, and use diplomacy to stay on their good side.

Thoughtform summons given time and intelligence end up just as potentially subversive, and I trust something out of our skull a lot less than I trust a wolf who really likes eating the corpses of enemies.

As long as we're not a dick to our summons we should be fine.

>>29618582
Agreed, other anon.

>>29618582
Yeah well, we picked summing so we're going to be using it.

>>29618612
We didn't put any points into summoning. Fuck that.

>>29618612
I'm pretty sure we haven't

>>29618582
That kind of makes our Student background an utter waste.

We went out of our way to get something that improves our aptitude with them, and it's powerful and available to us.

We should get it.

Water control is still extremely useful, but having summons gives us a lot more versatility.

>>29618582
>>29618597
>Able to expand into pyromancy and maybe other elements
>Want to stick with water, the worst fucking element in existence
Sasuga, /tg/
>>29618636
>>29618642
Our fucking studies and background is heavily invested in mythologies and lore. Summoning is going to be a thing. We picked them in the first fucking thread. Deal with it.

>>29618647
not really, water control is plenty versatile all on its own, if you include the ice and steam.

>>29618682
>water is worst element
your opinion/10
summoning ain't happening bro. You deal.

>>29618647
>>29618636
>>29618612

To clarify, summoning, especially that of self-made thoughforms becomes something of a second eye, scout, or guardian.
Thought-forms have the benefit of being disposable and capable of being dispersed.

It's only when you feed them power and treat them poorly that they really dare to get out of hand.
Violet from Omar Denis is an example of a powerful summoner.

>>29618582
And what happens when we're somewhere without much water available to us anon?

Water control is useful, but we want options available in other places, like pyromancy and summoning.

>>29618730
Water has some serious downsides concerning availability, and it affords us a large amount of battlefield control, but if we want to make the best use of this then we want summons.

Also, summons provide targets other than us, which is good because we're squishy.

>>29618682
Fuck mythos. If we HAVE to make use of our background, thoughtforms also gets a boost. Mythos is terrible and can go die.

>>29618785
what if we can only summon with water nearby/from a pool of water? It's a reasonable expectation, considering water is the root of our power.

as for availability, we can carry around some in a big gourd or something. It'll build muscle and character

>>29618759
So can we spend that 1 limit point on Mythos summoning right now?

>>29618861
No.

>>29618759
You mentioned last thread that because of our background we could get combined Mythos/Thoughtform summoning, right?

So we can make disposable scouts and the like, and use Mythos for more elite units.

Also, spend that Limit point on combined Mythos/Thoughtform summoning.

>>29618807
Are you crazy? Mythos is awesome, it just requires us to treat our summons with some respect. They're powerful and good relations mean we get easier access to an entire range of summons. As long as we're not stupid we can get an awful lot out of summoning.

>>29618856
You seem to have this idea that our PC wants to be a xbowxhueg fighter of justice. Asher wants to survive. Nothing else.

>>29618895
you seem to have this idea that I have weird ideas. you're wrong.

>>29618759
I would like to spend the limit point on Mythos, please.

>>29618856
Since we'll be low ranked at summoning to start we'll need a binding medium, in which case water/ice is a good option for that.

Summon something into a formation of ice, and then we get an Ice Wolf, or Valkyrie, or whatever, I'd stick with Norse due to their connection to cold, and our personal similarity to Odin. Also, the Norse summons are probably damn good at combat, and have rather simple desires for us to appease.

They seem pretty easy to work with overall.

>>29618895

Asher is 5'11 and like 150 lbs.
A giant gourd is a bit unreasonable indeed. He's a skinny dude.

Link here with your votes.

>LIMIT point into...

>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)
>Materia Firma(Water)
>Store it.

>>29619035
>>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)
Yes, please.

>>29619035
>Store it.
I wanna save it for Ice / Steam

>>29619035
>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

Yes, this gets us scouts.

>>29619035
>Store it.

>>29619035
>>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)
summon all the demons

>>29619035
>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

Does maintaining a summon require constant magic usage? Or can we keep something up without too much trouble.

>>29619035
>Store it.

>>29619035
store it

>>29619035
Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

>>29619035
>store it

>>29619035
>Store it.

>>29619035
>>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

>>29619035
store the point

>>29619035
>Store it.

>>29619035
>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

not to insult you or anything, dranule. but i don't think there are these many people in this thread.

>>29619035
>Summoning(Combines Thought and Mythos)

>>29619035
>Store it.

For now let's get to safety. We're not immediately in danger, but getting away from this grocery store might be a good idea.

>>29619115
Maintaining requires magic.
Though they can be charged as well, like a battery. Before combat or during combat to keep them on this side.

A thoughtform can be made to stay within your head, or linger around in the astral, while a mythos may only linger near you in the astral.

Cutting off votes here and counting.
>>29619204
I'm aware. Though it's on both sides.

>>29619035
>Store it.

>>29619228
when this happens, fixed reply with 5 min cutoff is a solution

so is strawpoll

>>29619228
I don't want to start a vote again, but in the future you should ask people to pick 1,2,3, etc. and nothing else. Somewhat stops samefagging

>>29619204
I'm really wondering why some people are so against summoning. Enough to samefag against it to this degree. It's absurdly useful and has a lot of utility and versatility.

Why would we not want to be able to make meatshields and scouts?

>>29619330
Both sides are obviously samefagging.

>>29619273
>strawpoll
Explain to me what strawpoll is.

In the mean-time, We're going with the fixed vote since this is kind of out of hand.
Glad you guys care, but it kind of hurts.

>[1]Summoning
>[2]Materia Firma
>[3]Store

Reply with only your choice in green text.

Cutoff in 4 minutes from this post.

>>29619364
>[3]Store

>>29619364
>[1]Summoning

>>29619364
>[3]Store

>>29619364
>[1]Summoning

>>29619364
>[3]Store

>[3]Store

>>29619364
>[1]Summoning

>>29619364
>[3]Store

>>29619364
>[3]Store

>>29619364
>[1]Summoning

End.
Ciunting. New post is almost done as well.

And cutoff was reached

>>29619364
lets you set up a poll with options, records IP addresses so people can only vote once

>>29619511
>Ciunting

Yes, this is where my mind is.

>Counting

>>29619534
Except it can easily be bypassed by proxies.

Storing the point for later.
Good show.

>>29619583
Can we raid the store now?

>>29619553
i've tried, proxy sites don't really register votes

>>29619602
It's a grocery store, the only thing to raid is utterly frozen food surrounded by dead bodies. And maybe some other stuff, but don't expect bountiful treasures or much we have use for.

>>29619653
>It's a grocery store, the only thing to raid is utterly frozen food
Good thing we can unfreeze it.

>>29619675
Most food doesn't take being flooded and then frozen all that well. And we raided it earlier for a lot of the good stuff.

There'll probably be some we can make use of, but overall there isn't all that much worth grabbing. We can get some food, just don't expect much out of it.

You breath slow concentrated breaths to endure the pain from that spell. You don't feel like you're at risk of losing your consciousness. But you are definitely not feeling alright.

For as much water was in that being, it took far more work than usual to get it to turn into steam. You'll need to remember that for the future. Something about things like whatever that- ghosts, are harder to affect. Damnit, 24 hours in and you're still in the dark about this whole mess.

After a moment of waiting, you feel like you can move your arm again, though the pain doesn't quite stop.
If this was actually heat, it'd be melting through your skin right now.

You walk over out of your cover, cradling your arm as pain keeps shooting through it.
As you look to the Amazon, she seems to be out of breath, crumbling to the pavement herself, body trembling from either the ice or the ache in her bones. Friend said that they experience that. Hell, you'd probably trade the pain in your nerves for an ache in the bones.

You look to the woman, the frozen chunk of her flesh skidded away after being thrown. The woman herself though lies on the ground with a shocked expression, her chest heaving slowly as he magic does its work, keeping the loss of blood at bay.

She's still alive, though not exactly for long from her appearance. Alder surviived with a missing chunk of his throat. This woman though, with her mouth slashed across into flaps hidden beneath a scrap of cloth, she's wavering in her fear.

Does Darth Vader count as a Mythos summon?

I might change my mind if he does.

>>29619765
No.

>>29619785
Fuck summoning

Hunter looms over her, reaching out only to pull his hand away and back off when she reaches for him,"Help, me..: She gasps with tears running down her face, as her chest lifts.

She's full of fear, she stinks of it, not unlike the young lady that's sitting in her own puddle, sobbing with her ears and eyes closed.
Useless. Only the amazon was of any use. She was pretty good actually... It could be a pain in the ass to fight against her.

Hunter looks up at you, his expression restrained yet clearly showing worry as the dull illumination of his magic ends.
"Shit, shit man, what do we do?! She's gonna die."

You look at him, though a little dispassionately as you glance over her raw innards. The wraith tore right through what must be her intestines, cleaving them right out..
She looks to you, her chest heaving faster than before as her pulse begins to go out of control,"Pu-please." She whispers, a hypothermic shiver beginning to take hold of her.
Fucking hell.

>[] Put her out of her misery. She's just going to endanger you down the road.
>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.
>[] Melt the chunk of flesh with some of your power. Won't do her much good then.
>[] Grab the tear and leave for the beach-front. You don't need these guys.
>[] (Other)

>>29619802
Oh, incidentally, Summoning is a form of thought control in its purest form.
When upgraded, it could unlock other possibilities, much like Steam and Ice do.

>>29619830
>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.
>[] (Other)
Try to stop her being so afraid. I know it's going to be a bitch and a half to get her to zen the fuck out when she's missing a chunk of torso, but we're gonna need to develop a silver tongue if we wanna sweet talk mythological beings.

>>29619830
Those are all gross.
>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.

>>29619830
We didn't pocket the tear yet? Grab the tear.
>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.

>>29619830
[X] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.

"I can't help you, you have to help yourself. If you don't want to die then fight. Fight for your right to live.

Stop sobbing and blaming the world, the world is unkind and cares not if you live or die, stop standing there waiting for someone else to solve your problems, they won't.

Fight. Stop letting your fear and pain hold you back, use them as reasons to survive no matter what. You have been given power, either use it and save yourself or die here before I've even learned your name."

>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.

"OH WHAT YOU'RE MISSING A PIECE OF YOUR TORSO AHAHA YOU BIG BABY SUCK IT UP"

>>29619830
>[] Retrieve the missing chunk of flesh and stick it back in. Up to her after that.
>[] (Other)
Tell her to concentrate on mending her body and the desire to live to take the fear off her mind.

Put her flesh in or whatever. BUT MAKE SURE TO GRAB THAT TEAR

>>29620005
>>29619909
Yeah. OBTAIN TEAR

>>29619944
This.

>>29619802

Agreed. I'm not sure I like the idea of summoning mythical characters in this quest. I can't really see Asher doing that.

>>29620034
Seeing as how he's like Mythology and Lore enough to make him his field of study in college, he clearly WOULD do that.

>>29620034
I'm starting to see where you guys are coming from. I'll think about what else he could have for some of his starting tree options.

Although, he could also make little pawns with the thoughtform part of it.

>>29620062
>Seeing as how he's like Mythology and Lore enough to make him his field of study in college, he clearly WOULD do that.
Mind that this is not limited to greek, norse, or even godly entities. Summoning of the mythos variant can also allow for dealing and contracting with with antagonistic entities.

>>29620034
I totally can see him summoning beasts of yore into icy representations of them, and letting his ice wolves savage his enemies and paying them for their services in the flesh of the defeated.

I can see him making deals with spirits for their power and the service of their underlings. I can see Asher summoning a great icy storm filled with great monsters and mighty warriors all of whom slaughter for his benefit.

We also canonically enjoy myth and folklore and have studied them.

>>29620062
Wow. I cannot believe how many errors I made in that post. I'm so sorry.

>>29620094
Asher can do so many things with summoning. Why do people want to limit him to water? It's stupid.

>>29620134
Asher can do so many things with water. Why do people want to shackle him to the whims of mythological creatures that are likely to stab him in the back either directly or indirectly? It's stupid.

>>29620134
Well, we could do what >>29620107 suggests, and create a massive blizzard to instill fear in our enemies, summoning Odin and his buddies on great wolves to terrorize our foes.

Or, we could just lift up a lake and drop it on whatever we want. Water is heavy, you know. Very heavy.

>>29620172
Well it's obvious that you haven't even listened to anything OP has said or looked at Asher's bio.

We're not limited to Gods/Angels. We can summon our own beings from our thoughts and imagination. Who WILL obey what we want.

>>29620207
Obviously you've not payed attention to any of the conversation in this thread. I'm fine with thoughtforms, but nobody that's been advocating summoning has been advocating anything but mythos.

>>29620172
Water is limited. It's useful, but it's limited by the availability of a substance, and while we can do a lot with it, there's a lot of stuff we can't do that well with it.

They aren't likely to stab us in the back. If we are a complete dick to them they might, but we actually know how to talk to people and can get them to like us. Their desires aren't likely to be hard to fulfill, and it gives us access to a lot more power than we would normally have.

Mythos summoning gets us scouts, combat units, sources of information and advice, and a lot of versatility. Instead of having to be able to do something ourself, we just need to be able to summon things and they can take care of it.

We can use allies to keep enemies from closing with us and smacking us around.

Oh, and we get Thoughtform summoning at the same time. So we can make perfectly safe creations of our own mind, that only get unsafe if we make them grow, and then treat them terribly.

Let's face it, summoning is an extremely powerful skill.

>>29620186
How many fucking lakes do you think we're near? You want to find one and put it in our torso pouch?

>>29620253
it's also incredibly boring
water is more fun and exciting to use

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>>29620253
Mythos summons lend themselves to the heroic archetype that Asher is not. They all chat in amongst themselves when they aren't summoned, meaning that even if we do get something that doesn't think we're a scumbag, other summons that would hate us will hear about it.

Thoughtform is fine. Mythos is begging for trouble.

>People thinking that summoning is going to instantly make us the god of combat or something
It's not, you know. The novice summons are going to be piddly little things.

>>29620347
No one has said that ever.

>>29620275
Not only did a tsunami just pass through the area, we're right near a beachfront. If we play our cards right, we shouldn't ever be away from a source of water.

I'm not arguing that Odin The Man Who Shits Lightning wouldn't be hella cool to summon. My problem is very well summarized by >>29620324. We're building ourselves up to be the biggest dick ever, and something tells me that HEROIC summons won't really like that.

As for brainless ice golems or something? Sure, I can get behind that. But I'm advocating one or two points in it, not specializing in it. Water is much more practical.

>>29620282
It introduces an absurdly wide variety of options, it lets us summon creatures from myths into reality, and you're calling it boring? It bring creations of our mind into existence, and have them grow and improve.

And you call this boring, you seriously confuse me or you're just arguing against summoning for the sake of it.

>>29620186
We won't always have a lake available. We won't always even have much in the way of water available.

That's one of the reasons we want to branch out.

Also, imagine the sorts of abilities that will branch out of Summoning.

>>29620324
As long as we keep to our deals with them we should be fine, and I believe the gossiping is mainly restricted to within their own circles. So if we summon something like Geri or Freki we let that wolf eat the bodies he kills and call him a good boy.

There are all sorts of entities we can summon, and many of them are far from heroic or kind. We won't suddenly become a hero because of this, we'll be an asshole on good terms with some heavy hitters.

Why are people thinking that we're going to instantly be summing Jesus, Surt, Odin, Shiva or Falacer? Just don't summon huge fucking assholes and we're fine.

Christ, you faggots.

>>29620396
No, I'm seriously calling it boring. I've already played too many summoners, they aren't appealing anymore. I want to play a guy who fights his own battles, not someone who summons a bunch of admittedly cool monsters, and then waits for them to do everything. Water is more attractive to me.

>>29620453
Hahaha, are you seriously saying we would even have the option of summoning Jesus? Ha, that's stupid.

we'll summon sausage instead

>>29620374
We won't be in this city forever. The Followers are going to be leaving, and not everywhere we go after this is going to be currently flooded.

We're a pragmatic survivalist, but that doesn't mean we can't work with others. Nor does it mean that we can't form friendly relations with people, especially when they're beneficial to us.

So we don't grab Arthurian Knights, we get summons that enjoy the combat we bring, who have no moral qualms about doing unsavory things, and we treat them with respect.

Or we summon animals of legend, give them some food and pet them a bit afterward, and call them good boys after they rip and tear.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, with a silver tongue we can get access to some useful beings to help us.

>>29620456
We aren't going to leave everything to our summons. We're still going to fight, but I would much rather throw a ball of steam into something's face if there's a big animal between us trying to rip its leg off.

>>29620523
I'd be ok with minor summons, like the scouts mentioned earlier. I still want our focus to be water manipulation though.

>>29620563
And I want our focus to be summoning. You can still have your steam attack.

Staring down at the woman, you can't help feel like you might as well do her this favor.
Psyching yourself into urgency, you look about for the frozen chunk of flesh, sprinting over to it while thankful at the pain is currently limited to your arm.

Picking up the parcel, you nearly wretch at the sight as it very slowly thaws, leaving cold blood upon your hands.
Sprinting back, you nearly slide in, shredding you slacks against the glossy wet pavement.

Her condition's worsened, already, the blood begins tio seep from her wounds as her panic continues to rise.

You slide the frozen hunk into her side and lean in close over her with Hunter holding her down as she begins to whimper even more.

With one hand on her missing flesh, and the other hand bloody, you turn her face to look her in the eyes with your own wounded glare.
Through gritted teeth and her unwillingness to face you, you yell,"Look at me!" Hoarsening your voice.
"I can't help you. No one can. Only you can help yourself."
She pushes against you weakly, the gunmetal gray aura pulsating through her veins persistently in her duress. She doesn't break your stare though.
"If you don't want to die, then fight. It's your own right to live.
Stop sobbing and blaming the world, it is unkind and cares not whether you live or die. Don't expect anyone else to solve your problems, they won't.

Fight. Stop letting fear and pain hold you back, use them as reasons to survive no matter what. You have power, so use it!" You throttle her and force the chunk of meat against her side firmly, as she begins to calm down, staring into your one eye still.
"Or die here before I've even learned your name." You spit out that part like a curse, outright disgust.

Can we summon mythological weapons and armor?

Cause I think that some mythological weapons and armor would be pretty ballin.

>>29620523
If you can provide me some animals that are small and also legendary, I'll consider seeing that we put enough points into summoning to get them. After all, Xboxhueg wolves that rip people apart are great and all, but you said it yourself: we're a pragmatic survivalist. Sometimes a gentler touch is needed, and sometimes an ability that can strike from the shadows is better than a wooden bat to the proverbial face.

As for the availability issue with water, we're following the Followers (heh) and they want to recruit people. It logically follows then, that they'll go to other population centers. In those population centers, there will be sewer systems, wells, or sources of water, because people need water to live. Where there are people, there is water. The Followers are going to where the people are. So, wherever we go will have water.

I hope you see my logic, there.

You've adapted, you've held yourself to change. As far as you are concernedm, you were nothing before you had this power. The city was reduced to an oozing scab of a wound yet you've only lost your one eye in all of this shit. Everyone else is dead, and you're alive, it's all that matters, right? Right?

The woman sputters out blood, coughing as her magic, her soul steadies. You feel the flesh lock in through her power, even her capillaries glow as it begins to reconnect the flesh.
Sighing with relief, you slide you bloody hand off of her face, parting your cheshire'd grin slightly.
"There you go. That's what you can do. Do it." You whisper, rising up from her.
Hunter looks over her, and then to you, his mouth having gone slack.
Maybe you just earned some major respect from the kid?

Goddamnit, you're no hero.

Walking over to the remains of the wraith, which amounts to nothing but a single frozen tear, you pocket the thing, feeling a horrible sensation of mourning and fear as you do.
Save it for later, this is worth looking into, isn't it?
"Hey, good job with that woman." The Amazon heaves out a breath of her own. slow and stable. Likely something she learned from a gym or something with those moves.
"Yeah, go on, kiss my ass. I just did what I had to." Your eye is drawn to the glacier, a drip falling from one of the formations.
Seems the summer heat's finally gotten to it.

"What happened in there?"
The Amazon takes another deep breath,"We went back to the Meat department where there was a wall of ice. John was curious. He went and smashed his fist against a space where it was thinner, as if someone had been digging and it broke out. Killed him like it almost did to your friend there." She gestures to the woman, she's begun to sit up on her own now, still nursing her side as she acclimates.
You look back to the glacier, the store. That was where you saw the people in there from before. It might look different now but... Nah, it's better to leave well enough alone.
They told you to send people to the College, not fight ghosts.

Shaking your head, you throw a backwards glance to the Amazon as she gets up, and the apparently deaf young lady that's still bent down into the parking lot. The Suit's nowhere to be seen.
Fucking coward, you spit.

>[]Ask the young lady about the downed helicopter... If you can get a response.
>[] Invite the Amazon to come along, she'll be useful.
>[] Get the other two and head to the beach.
>[] This was damn well enough. Head back to the College.
>[] (Other)

>>29620708
>[] Invite the Amazon to come along, she'll be useful

I want to say to continue to the beach, but our mission was just to get /someone/ to come back, right? Well we have people here now.

>[] Invite the Amazon to come along, she'll be useful.
>[] Get the other two and head to the beach.

Provided that the pain in our arm is subsiding, of course. We do still need to get SOMEBODY to the college, after all.

And the Amazon will be hella useful, you just watch.

>>29620708
>>[] Invite the Amazon to come along, she'll be useful.
>[] (Other)
Examine the tear

>>29620456
And you're playing a pragmatic survivalist with a previously established enjoyment of mythology and folklore.

Asher isn't the sort to turn down a powerful skill for no reason, and there's lots of reasons why he would want it.

>>29620563
They work well together. Water Control looks like at a high level it'd be very useful for battlefield control, altering the battlefield, providing advantages to our allies, and disadvantages to our enemies. We can cut enemies off from each other with constructs of ice and water, blinding them with steam, fuck with their movement by freezing the ground, or freezing them to the ground. Use Aquatic Awareness to know what the wet enemies are doing and where they are.

But it benefits greatly from having allies to grant advantages to. Creating obstacles and the like is a lot more useful if there's something trying to kill the enemy.

>>29620664
Huginn and Muginn, Odin's ravens, normal sized, good scouts and so on.

Geri and Freki, Odin's wolves, big as far as wolves go but not unnaturally so, but very vicious and dangerous.

Some Jaguars from a number of Mesoamerican mythologies, not too big, but sneaky, strong, and able to bite through a man's head.

>>29620659
Summoning those entities would be more akin to enchanting a pre-existing item with its properties,. It'd be an offshoot of summoning, though it wouldn't require summoning itself.
Materia Firma would suffice.

>>29620563
>>29620523
More pragmatic or vile creatures such as Morgan LaFey, Loki, Coyote, and other trickster/evil/neutral entities would actually work rather well with enough points put into it.

They would be invested in possible contracts, and enjoy it when you do something a bit crueler and a touch more unusual while they might find purely benevolent acts a bit droll, and they'd make their opinion known.

>>29620708
>[] Invite the Amazon to come along, she'll be useful.

"I'm going to be heading to the College soon, just telling a group I met earlier about it. They should be somewhere over there." Point to indicate their general direction.

"Care to join me? I know where I'm headed, and it could be dangerous to travel alone."

>[] Get the other two and head to the beach.

Make a mental note to look into the tear when our nerves feel better and we have some peace and quiet.

>>29620780
>Materia Firma would suffice.
That sounds really cool.

>>29620780
Could we summon wendigos? They have a wintery thing going on, so it would fit with Asher kinda. Also they're mean as fuck.

>>29620883
Yes.

>>29620900
I am now in support of summoning if it means we can get a wendigo. I still think it will bite us in the ass hard, but wendigo want too strong.

>>29620900
>>29620883
An amendment.
Yes, and they'd be absolutely terrifying.

>Unleash the cannibal demons of winter!

>>29620929
So, uhh... How many ranks?

>>29620759
Oh, and to add more reasonably sized beasts for summoning.

The Nemean Lion, Bugbears who are child eating hobgoblin associated with bears, Otso, Finnish legendary bear and king of the forest, Anzu, divine Sumerian bird who breathes fire and water, and many other birds, the Minotaur, more dogs than I care to mention including mthical wolves, Barghests, Cerberus, Kishi. Failinis, Lugh's hound who is very strong in battle, forces others beasts to surrender to it, and if we pour water on it we get wine. Also, normal sized.

Wendigos, if we care to summon those fucking things.

We could to summon Heiorun, it's a goat and not that useful in combat, but instead of milk it produces mead, great for parties.

I haven't even begun to mention horses, there are a good number of those we can use. Even Sleipnir if we need a lot of go fast right then and there.

The Calydonian Boar, tough fucking customer, it took Atlanta to hunt it down.

Basilisks.

All sorts of dragons, drakes, and wyverns.

>>29621017
>Wendigos, if we care to summon those fucking things.
>>29620929
>>29620900
>>29620883
I WANT THEM. BRING ON THE WENDIGOS

Took you fucking morons this long to realize that with summoning powers you could SUMMON THINGS?

>>29621055
I don't care if some of the things are awesome. Mythos summoning is playing with fire and will burn us.

Thoughtform, fine. Whatever. Mythos is disaster waiting to happen. The only things that won't hate us for being a scumbag are scumbag monsters themselves.

>>29621072
Wendigos are mythos summoning.

>>29621077
I'm not the guy that wants wendigos.

>>29621083
Sucks for you I guess.

>>29621017
Here's the problem, though, and if Dranule doesn't want to say then it's fine, but how many points are we going to have to put into summoning to get mythical stuff? Are we going to have to sacrifice everything else to do so?

>>29621098
I suspect it's going to be quite a fucking lot. We're going to be absolutely worthless for a while.

>>29621038
We don't start with those, but we could get them eventually.

They aren't scouts, they aren't even disciplined combatants.

We summon them when we want some enemies killed and eaten by an eternally starving monster of the frozen north. We probably aren't going to get much strategy out of them.

>>29621098
We'll probably start with scouts, and get bigger tougher stuff soon after. It'll be a while before we bring armies or giants around, but I'm guessing that even at Apprentice we could bring Geri/Freki out if we had an appropriate vessel that we made from Ice, and made a ritualistic offering of a bit of blood. Blood is both a ritualistic sacrifice, and EXTREMELY pertinent to their mythological nature.

You let out a tired, sigh and run your fingers back through your hair, looking up to the sky.
It's a pain only having one eye. But you only need one to see this world.
There's a crack and the sound of shattering ice as the summer air claims more of the unnatural glacier. It draws your attention, though only until you see that it's benign.

Walking toward your allies, you cast a backwards look to the amazon,"I'm going to the College soon, just telling a group I met earlier about it," You point your finger over to the beachfront, not far from here actually, just a few blocks away.
"Care to come with? I know where I'm headed, and it could be dangerous to travel alone."

The Amazon stares at you, and looks over to the woman still petrified in her own puddle,"Yes, though I'll be bringing her along. Wouldn't feel right just leaving her here like that."
You shrug,"Whatever." You play it cool and kind of casual. Your indifference isn't exactly a front however. It'd be a blessing if a worthless bitch like that died. She operated worse than your own that was at least able to stand up. You could go for a smoke. It'd feel good and look really cool right now.
Yeah, this would be a good time to start.

You offer the woman a hand once she's looking alright again, or as alright as anyone looks after losing the right right side of their abdomen from their navel.
"Emilia." She trembles the words out with a cold shiver,"Emilia Armani." She gives you a stupid kind of smiles, stretching past the corners of her mouth with her cheshire cut.
You just kind of stare at her, and look to Hunter,"Let's go."

You travel to the beach, Emilia a little slow, but still kicking, and that young lady with the amazon who smells like piss.

>>29621141
>We probably aren't going to get much strategy out of them.
Wendigos are smarter than people are. They might not sit down and talk the enemy into working for us, but they aren't berserk beasts.

>>29621169
True, they aren't stupid. My mistake. Though most of their goals will probably revolve around killing and eating people.

They can be sneaky and use the blizzard to sneak up on people and then kill and eat them, find the weakest person and gang up on them so they can kill and eat them, or many other strategies.

Still, if we summon them it should be because we want something killed and eaten, not because we want scouting or diplomacy.

>>29621143
>You could go for a smoke. It'd feel good and look really cool right now.

HAHAHAHA our protagonist is just great.

>>29621169

By the very nature of lesser(Read that as unnamed) summoned creatures, they can be augmented at a fundamental level due to their existence in the realm of thought.
I combined Thoughtform and Mythos summoning into one spellgroup for this reason.

You could augment a wendigo with higher intelligence or a greater form for instance, though it would be somewhat difficult to deprive them of their fundamental core principle of hunger.

I'm leaving room on this. and it's good you guys are talking about it.

>>29621274
>lesser(Read that as unnamed)
I assume you mean that named things are like Loki or Odin or whatever, because "wendigo" sounds like the name of a kind of mythological creatures to me.

>>29621274
Funnily enough there's a decent bit in common between Wendigos and Geri/Freki.

Geri and Freki, Odin's Wolves, are called the Ravenous One and the Greedy One, they like eating the corpses of those who have fallen in battle, they're both associated with greedy, hunger, and winter regions. Geri and Freki also are associated with blood and carrion.

>>29621274
So we can augment lesser summoned creatures, that's useful to know, so we can start with wolves and ravens, and move up to bigger and faster wolves, smarter ravens that can talk, and so on and so forth.

Can we start by summoning named beings, or are even the least of them beyond our capabilities?

The smell of dead things permeates the air. Bodies and wreckage litter the beach that the water failed to claim properly.
It's a grim stroll, though the Amazon makes a little joke about always putting "Likes long walks on the beach" on her lotsafish online dating account.
You kind of chuckle her, humoring it a little, though the rest of the group is quiet at the dismal atmosphere, completely contrasted by the beautiful lights casting a saccharine hue upon those that walk upon the earth.

You think back to the day that they first appeared, just over a year ago.
Is this what they've brought? Is this what's been kept hidden from people? Is this what the Government's been covering up since the world rioted over those lights?

This whole fucking... Heh. you smirk as a new thought occurs to you. Is this just the apocalypse? Ragnarok? Armageddon? The end of days? Is it just being brought on by people or...

No, the followers showed you what people are like. Friend showed you that you have the ability to guide them. Those that walk the path of blood...
Was the world not just as rotten as it was before?

The putrefying smell of the sea salt and decay tell you that it just might be true.

It's a matter of an hour or so before you find the little shamble of a hut that you helped the others make. Alder and Reina were kind of strong, so was Jade.

Alder was a vein, Jade was a bone, Reina was a bone, Jierra was a... you didn't actually see Kierra's power...

>The Burn has gone down: Mild.

>How are you going to greet "old friends?"
>[] Act like nothing's wrong, the best way to go about it.
>[] Tell them what they need to hear and go back to the college. You're sick of this crap.
>[] Why not just kill them? They'll be walking the blood anyway.
>[] (Other)

>>29621387
>>[] Tell them what they need to hear and go back to the college. You're sick of this crap.
Take the tear to the dude who inaugurated us into the blood circle.

>>29621387
>[] Tell them what they need to hear and go back to the college. You're sick of this crap.

>>29621333
Yes, I meant that names that are attributed to a "kind" of mythological creature leave more room for modification than "Hercules," "Perseus," or "Achilles"

>>29621362
>Can we start by summoning named beings, or are even the least of them beyond our capabilities?
You'll be able to talk to named beings that may have taken notice of you. Though summoning will be limited for the first 2 or so ranks.

A medium, ritual, or a form of sacrifice may also be used in summoning.
Though none are necessarily required.

I think the tear could boost our ice abilities.

I wanna do something with it.

So, was Imagine Dragon's Radioactive appropriate for the tone of this quest?

I have an open mind to appropriate opening music.

>>29621444
>So, was Imagine Dragon's Radioactive appropriate for the tone of this quest?
No, not really.
Or maybe the tone is. I just don't think the song fits overall.

>>29621444
It's generic pleb pop shit, but in the context of setting it's more or less appropriate. Although there's no radiation in this world that I'm aware of.

>>29621444
>>[] Tell them what they need to hear and go back to the college. You're sick of this crap.

Yeah let's just go back now.

>>29621387
[X] Tell them what they need to hear and go back to the college. You're sick of this crap.

Remain friendly, give them a smile, quickly ask what they've been up to since we last saw them, but don't waste too much time on pleasantries.

Tell them that the College is dry, has food and water, places to sleep, and people who know more than we do about what's going on. Advise that they make their way there.

At some point we should probably tell the Amazon to seek Enlightenment, maybe as sort of of parting advice when we get to the College. This little push might get her to make the make the right choice when the decision comes.

>>29621467
Not really radiation, though the bodily effect of magic seems kind of that way.
The "new age" and apocalypse feel kind of got me.

Describe the vibes that you guys are getting, and I'll try to get something appropriate. I was just looking for something intense. and I don't think Asher is indoctrinated enough into the followers to have a more holier than thou song attributed to him.

>>29621509
>At some point we should probably tell the Amazon to seek Enlightenment

None of the others? Heh, that's cold, man.
I like it.

>>29621516
I get S.T.A.L.K.E.R. vibes, personally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMxJkTaE4I

>>29621516
I don't know, but for some reason as I read I kept thinking of this song.

It's a bit weeb though, so consider that a warning. If you want to listen, you'll need to turn on subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7mwMxTZT8U

>>29621516
Not really, he's probably rather cynical about them.

He sees them as strong, and worthwhile to ally with, but we don't plan on drinking the kool-aid. Just as they don't trust us entirely, we shouldn't trust them entirely. Even if many of them can't lie they can misdirect and deceive just fine.

We recognize some of their goals as reasonable, they're currently trying to cause immense social change and make the world more 'magical', as well as make the existence of magic a publicly known fact. And we quite like the power that we got out of this.

>>29621555
She's actually worth keeping. And might actually have the emotional fortitude to take the advice when she realizes what we're saying.

The others, I'm not really as invested in their future alliances. I don't mind them joining us, but I don't care all that much.

Speaking of mythological weapons and armor:
>Kladenets (Russian: меч-кладенец; also called самосёк [samosyok]) is a fabulous magic sword in some Old Russian fairy tales. In the "Tale about the City of Babylon" the sword is called "Asp The Serpent" (Аспид-змей). In the "Tale about bogatyr Yeruslan Lazarevich" it is mentioned among the fire shield and fire spear. Although the word "kladenets" appears to be derived from the Slavic word for treasure, Max Vasmer theorized that it may have originated as a corrupted pronunciation of Clarent. It also sounds similar to the verb "klast'" ('to put down' in Russian) so it may well correspond to 'slayer' in English. Kladenets means "well" (for water) in the related Slavic language Bulgarian (Bulgarian: кладенец), potentially evocative of torrents of blood.


>Kladenets means "well" (for water) in the related Slavic language Bulgarian (Bulgarian: кладенец), potentially evocative of torrents of blood.

Ehh?

>>29621602
I don't really want a sword. Or any weapon, really. Except maybe a gun.

>>29621602
>>29621632
Yeah. I think Asher would go for the ranged weapons. Maybe some mythos clothes.

>Tarnkappe, Sigurd's magical cloak that made the wearer invisible. (Norse mythology)
>Seven-league boots allowed the wearer to travel seven leagues with each step.
>The Hide of Leviathan was supposedly able to be turned into everlasting clothing or impenetrable suits of armor.
>The Hide of the Nemean lion, which Heracles earned overcoming the Nemean lion, was supposedly able to endure every weapon and was unbreakable. (Greek mythology)
>The Falcon Cloak, owned by Freyja, it allows the wielder to turn into a falcon and fly.

Hell. There's tons of shit that would be awesome for Asher. Just look up mythological [whatevers] on wikipedia.

>>29621602
It is cool, though I would well and truly advise against getting into melee combat with Asher, we're kinda squishy and weak, and we don't regenerate.

Giving it to an ally, probably a Bone, or summoned creature and we're in business.

Dranule, with the first level of Summoning could we summon magical wolves? We can provide a medium to summon them in out of Ice. Would we need to provide a sacrifice of some kind to summon them? Like cutting our hand and bleeding a bit. If we don't need a sacrifice for that instead how much power and customization could we add due to it?

I don't think Asher needs any sort of weapon or armor. Except maybe an eyepatch. Shit like swords, cloaks, cuirass' is just... dumb.

>>29621695
>Like cutting our hand and bleeding a bit. If we don't need a sacrifice for that instead how much power and customization could we add due to it?
This would increase the binding for the summon, and give them some liking for you. Modification of such would still require the second rank.

>>29621735
I would not mind having a concealed pistol. It could be of use against people who are watching us for magic usage and don't expect to be shot in the face.

Also, a knife, not because I intend on stabbing enemies as a method of combat, but because they're useful to keep around and if we're summoning things we'll want a method to cut ourself easily.

Cloaks are actually useful for us, especially a hooded one, they can conceal our identity and the rest of what we're wearing. Make us seem mysterious and so on. You can sew a lot of pockets on the inside of one as well, pockets are always useful. And if it's magic, it does cool stuff as well.

>>29621757
Useful to know.

Can we use other people's blood for our summoning?

>>29621509
I forgot to mention, if we see any cigarettes along the way, maybe like at a gas station or something, pick them up and dry them out.

We'll be an eyepatched badass smoking cigarettes in a ruined city. That'd pretty damn cool looking.

>>29621906
Who dies from lung cancer at 40. So cool.

Asher will probably start coughing and look stupid.

>>29621735
If we're going to have a background in mythology and points put into summoning, why not utilize a useful ability to make copies of legendary arms and armor that do magic stuff?

>>29621944
Because none of that means we need armor or weapons.

>>29621953
I'm more interested in cloaks that make us invisible or boots that let us fly. Direct combat is a bad idea, but utility items are good.

>>29621941
I'm sure cancer can be taken care of my magic, and I'm guessing that there's someone who can deal with cancer in the Followers.

Besides, it's probably not cigarettes that'll kill us at this point, there's all sorts of other dangers.

The coughing is a problem, but we can hopefully avoid it, and if it does happen it'll make us look more human and able to be sympathized with.

>>29621953
There's all sorts of utility items we could make use of. And we can outfit our allies with magical gear. We would still have uses for it.

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I just realized that his name is "Asher".
Hehehe

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I'm all in for a badass cloak. Everything else I could take it or leave it.

Meeting with the others, Hunter and Emilia kind of keep quiet, especially Emilia as she's dealing with something not unlike Alder's condition...

"Alder's dead," Reina's the one to break the news. You barely bat an eyelash at that news, though you do put on a face of some regret, let yourself look like you've been winded and shake your head dis-affectionately.
"I'm sorry to hear that, what happened?" You rub at your right arm, the dull burning sensation still somewhat present.
Reina looks over to the others within the little hut. It's just her, the speechless Kierra, and the flayed Jade. A dismal outcome, nothing but women here now.
"It was the night. He went to sleep. He didn't wake up. The bandages you dried for him were stained with blood."

You, Hunter, and the Amazon look at Emilia warily, whom blanchs and nearly cries on the spot until you glare at her more deeply. She sucks it up, nods, though the worry doesn't leave her face.

She could very well be on borrowed time.

You reconclle with Reina at least, telling her that there's a dry bed at the college, as well as food. That it'd be good to go there at night, and the people there are teaching magic.
She lets slip your meeting with The Followers from the other day., and the Amazon gives you an odd sort of look, that'll require some explaining on your part.

"They gave use food. shelter and water. They teach magic for free, even if you want to kill them. Now's not a good time for anyone in the city to fight them. If you-" You catch yourself, you almost mentioned that path,"If you want to fight against them, you should go there, listen to what they have to say, learn, and then practice."
To emphasize your point, you hold forth your left hand and materialize a small globe of water from condensation, freeze it, and then let it evaporate into steam before closing your hand.
"They gave us magic."

You state simply, Hunter stands in agreement with you and Emilia seems calmer, staring down your old group.

The Young Lady gets angry,"Are you serious?! They're just going to wreck our town and then teach us magic?" She carries on with it, and it becomes annoying entirely early for you.

"Look, decide whether or not you're going to meet with them. They know more than any of us." You begin to depart, though you lean over by the amazon. Despite being flat, she actually has a sort of charm to her lean female muscle. You could use her.
"When the time comes, choose enlightenment. It's what we chose."
As you leave, with Emilia and Hunter, you give them a backwards wave,"Hope you all walk in peace."

With that parting comment, you had back to base. Warm bead that you don't have to magic, hot food, and training. What more could an aspiring mage want for?

The helicopters have disappeared from the sky now, younever did get the location of the one that was taken down. Could be interesting salvage. Some electronics from a helicopter, flight systems?
Oh hell, what if you could learn magic that makes use of machines?
You grin at the possibilities.

As a Nerve, the world will someday be your plaything.
____________________________________________________________

You're back at the college by the afternoon. You say a little word to the doorman, one that Friend had told you to say.
"Walk in peace, the path of blood, and attain enlightenment."
The man nods, a smile drawing across his ebony face,"Yes, you are the three? Eshe saw you kill the spirit. We've been speaking of it. Friend will see you in the auditorium. You are free to eat and drink. You are hungry, yes?"

>[] Get a bite to eat from the cafeteria, talk to Emilia and Hunter, maybe other Followers.
>[] Go right to Friend.
>[] Check out the Wraith's tear.
>[] (Other)

>>29622055
>>[] Check out the Wraith's tear.
No more putting it off. I WANT TO EXPERIMENT DAMMIT!

>>29622080
>I WANT TO EXPERIMENT DAMMIT!
Your first artifact of magical origin. Whatever will you do with it? How will you break it?

>>29622104
Rub it.

>>29622055
>Get some food and water. We hungry
>Go as Friend about the tear.
I want to ask Friend about the tear. He's teaching us how to magic, and he can't lie. The disciples knew about the spirit thing and they could have easily killed it if it was valuable to them. So that means he -probably- won't have any reason to make us give him the thing unless it might fuck us up.

I say we ask him about the tear after he says whatever it is he wanna say to us.

>>29622055
>[X] Get a bite to eat from the cafeteria, talk to Emilia and Hunter, maybe other Followers.

Man we didn't even eat breakfast might as well grab a bite to eat.

>>29622055
>[] Get a bite to eat from the cafeteria, talk to Emilia and Hunter, maybe other Followers.

Eat, drink coffee, use water control to warm it up if it's cold, and goof off a bit and try to drink some coffee with water control instead of sipping it like a normal person.

Chat with people, get some more information about the other Followers here, and especially try to build a rapport with Hunter and Emilia. Tell them more about ourself.

Then we'll visit Friend and bring up the tear, ask if he knows what it is and how to make use of it.

You make way to the cafeteria with Emilia and Hunter in tow. Inside, you see that the halls have been cleaned of blood and any residual water-logging that might have occurred from all the drenched people the prior night.
It's almost strange actually how clean it looks, untouched even. In previous halls that you'd walked, the damage to walls and other fixtures had been fixed or even removed.

The cafeteria is no different from this treatment. Bloodstains upon the tile have been removed entirely.

It's like a brand new building.

You get a coffee and some food that one of the Followers just about throws at you from the kitchen, none of it really anything you recognize in terms of meat, though the apple and banana seem safe enough.
Emilia, whom still worries over her remaining wound after hearing the news about Alder contents herself with a coffee, obviously gaining a very real fear of sleeping- at all.
It's kind of aweful to see the liquid dribble out of the cuts att he corners of her mouth.
Hunter tears into the serving of meat, while you idly stare at what's on your plate.

You never really got around to swearing an oath to reinforce your magic... One that comes to mind would be one where you were a vegetarian or something... Though then with what friend said, you'd lose power if you ever chose to eat meat, or let it slip accidentally.

Power, it's important, and you have a way for it. You're the one that killed the banshee, taking a sip of your coffee, you contemplate whether you should let yourself be bound by any such ridiculous rule.
Truth isn't a good one. You're not sure how they can stand it, but whatever.

You make some idle conversation with your partners. Yeah, you can kind of call them that now. Emilia may be a useless bitch right now, but she should get alright in time.
Hunter didn't act quite as well, though you don't think he really expected to fight a ghost.

Some of the other followers look upon the three of you, and speak low among themselves. It seems you aren't quite accepted by everyone yet. Just means that these three are the only ones- What are you thinking?

You're the only one you can trust. You feel that tear that still resides within your pocket. It feels like there's ice stuck in your pockets right now. Odd..
>End Thread
>Next Thread Thursday at 21:00

Thanks for playing. I hope you all had fun. I can still answer some questions now that the thread is over.

>>29622419
Could you give us some more examples of common Oaths other than Truth?

How exactly do they work? Do we swear one and a spell increases by a level? Does the cost go up as well if we increase it with an oath, which makes it more efficient to level it up normally and then swear and oath to increase it, or does the cost remain the same as it was if you hadn't sworn anything?

What does the ice tear do? We'll be asking about it, and experimenting with it anyways.

How much can we summon with 1 level of Summon? What are the limitations on what we can do?

>>29622468
>How exactly do they work? Do we swear one and a spell increases by a level? Does the cost go up as well if we increase it with an oath, which makes it more efficient to level it up normally and then swear and oath to increase it, or does the cost remain the same as it was if you hadn't sworn anything?

You swear an oath and increase a spell level by 1 along with decreasing the background associated "Burn" that's linked to your mana use.

The intensity of the oath also affects the total ability gain and thus corresponding loss if it is broken.
An oath is an ultimatum and if ever broken it will be costly.
Some summons, and some people may respect your oath.

You could increase Water magic to three right now with a +2 oath. Yet if you went and broke it, you'd lose your ability to cast it at all because your current rank is 1.
Oath effect:
1+2 =3
Oath Broken
1-2=-1

This is why those of the Followers that have pledged Truth do not break this oath. Friend has associated it with charm, and thus uses it to his benefit with infectious honestly.

>>29622468
>How much can we summon with 1 level of Summon? What are the limitations on what we can do?

At Novice Grade, your summoning is limited to unnamed animals, lesser demons and entities.
A wolf, wendigo, bird of some kind would be rather easy to do and would be more a blend of thoughtform and mythos until Asher ranks it up and begins to glean himself more on the differences and how to accurately control and deal with them.
At level 2, they will be more freely modifiable, whereas rank 1 can only really control their appearance and what medium they act through.

Hope that answers it well.

>>29622578
How much would an oath to "Not Die" be worth?

>>29622468
>Could you give us some more examples of common Oaths other than Truth?

Oath of Poverty: Take no more money than what is given to you. Own no home, and no material possessions.
Bum-oath
Oath of Truth: Lie to no loving or unliving soul.
Oath of Celibacy: Never have sex. Ever.
Asher might get a bit fidgety about this one.
Oath of Sacrifice: When one has the opportunity to save another, even at the cost of their own safety, they must be driven to act.
Oath of Life: Vow never to eat meat, as it is eating of death.
Oath of Prayer: Before each spell, you will perform a short ritual of prayer. This may also be done even without the oath,for less benefit but without breaking it.

I'm also willing to approve other suggestions.

>>29622599
>"Not Die"
Nothing. Or depending, it would end up causing an irrevocable loss of all magic by including cell death.
An Oath that does not act as a legitimate social, mental or physical penalty is worthless.

>>29622670
It's harder to make Oaths when you're a bad person.

Oath of Prayer is good.

Can you repair oaths if they're broken, either accidentally or not?

Can we have an Oath that requires us to lie to people?

>>29622749
>Can you repair oaths if they're broken, either accidentally or not?

They can be repaired by setting an appropriate condition to repent the breaking an re-establish it.

This can either be an excessive period of fulfilling the criteria for the oath.

Oath of truth may be repented by telling a truth about yourself that you never wanted anyone to hear, or speaking your real mind about a person.(i.e. You'd outright call the young lady from earlier a disgusting useless bitch that pissed herself, and actually call the muscle-woman an amazon. Yes, shenanigans.)

An Oath of Bushido or Chivalry might be a neat one, though those also aren't something that Asher would swear.

I honestly see Asher being more one to take an Oath of Selfishness in which he must not do right by other people unless it specifically benefits him.
Or an Oath of Sacrifice where he needs to ritualistically maim someone and sacrifice them. That's treading into less reasonable territory, though Asher's showing some leanings to evil with a preference to neutral.

>>29622837
>I honestly see Asher being more one to take an Oath of Selfishness in which he must not do right by other people unless it specifically benefits him.
I really like this one.

>>29622837
I really like the Oath of Selfishness. We don't have to be a dick, but we're not doing people favors for nothing. If they're useful to us we'll be nice, and we'll stay on the good side of any summons.

I'd hold off on Oath of Sacrifice until we can guarantee a steady supply of murdering. For the time being we have a lot of mages around us, and not many normal people. Not a good time to try and become a serial killer.

How about an Oath of Revenge? We must seek vengeance against anyone who attacks us or insults us.

>>29622897
>>29622974
I like these ideas but would the followers be cool with them? I mean they took an oath of truth so they might just kick us out if we make those kinds of oaths. Not like I know what's going on in their heads though. Hell they might not even care at all.

>>29622837
How about an Oath of Responsibility, linked with Summoning.

I'm imagining summoning, say, a horse. Then our Oath would have us actually feed, comb, and stable said horse in exchange for a better grasp of it as a summon.

Likewise, summoning a soldier spirit would require us to respect it as a person, lead it like a competent General, and not send it off in a suicide mission.

Things like that. Sound workable?