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>>29587084
welcome back Program0! i hope your comp is working this time.

>>29587084
Goodnight Program0.
We have been expecting you with great anticipation.

>>29587084
Plasma and Missiles fly from both fleets, as Tartarus shows you it's specialty-a veritable storm of missile fire is unleashed. The opening volly fly forth, streaking across the void as the brawling ships move in for Mass Driver range. Glowing plasma slag melts off ships, and hundreds upon thousands of missiles take to the skies, some flying off trejectory, and others crashing into hulls and utterly destroying some ships.
Fortuna opens up the 'wings' of her ship, letting the Fighters fly.
"Go, and claim our foe, little ones!" She calls to them. Kronos replies by opening with the Widow Maker-blasting apart several of the Destroyers in his opening volley. His own experimental ship you designed, the Wombat', tests it's own fire on the Battleship, cutting through some of the hundreds of batteries in an opening shot.
"It disturbs me how the foe the humans send against us are more and more machine. The humans must know their place." Kronos claims simply, moving some of his ships in as the wave of fire hits your fleet.
Hades is silent however he directs the fleet forward with wordless determination, leading the charge along side Kronos. V.I. 4 and 9 have joined alongside Kronos and Hades in their light cruisers, though you can feel Fortuna's eye upon her old ship.

Once the opening volley is done, you take note of the damages. You've lost 16 Destroyers, past the missiles that have missed and those that were shot down. Your enemy has lost 40 Destroyers however due to the well aimed opening blast-along with Kronos' excellent shot with the Widow Maker. Much of your fleet is sticking close to the Battleship, which helped protect them along with the high grade defenses you made.

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>>29587168
Your viruses have slowed 15 Battlecruisers-10 in the main fleet plus all of the others attacking your defenses. Your defenses opened fire as well defending themselves, Argeis taking the brunt of the damage. The station is taking heavy damage, and both of the cannons are destroyed, while V.I. 11 sends you multiple alerts, warning that it's structural integrity are at risk. Poseidon's cannons open fire, destroying much of the Destroyer fleet, but taking some casualties of their own. Blue Betty's defenses are in a fierce battle against the enemy fleet, and while damage to both BC's is obvious, V.I. 10 warns it may not be able to hold against the next volley.

Meanwhile, onboard Athena, you focus in on Rhea who has yet to realize her cover is blown as she worms her way into the maintenence track of your ship. You hear her speak to herself.
"Definitely modified. No ship is this tightly packed." She growls. "Be ready, they're small but just as tough as your ships." She warns someone over the radio. That's when the androids build themselves up around the corner. The woman makes her way quickly down the small tunnel, right into your android's hands. Unit 1 is the first to meet her with a laser blast, as several others open up with more laser fire, and even a few rockets. She yells out in surprise, throwing up her arms and deflecting the laser fire on some sort of personal shield she has, and twists her body unnaturally, worming her way out of the way of two rockets, and opening fire on the last one with her own blaster she had on her person.
"Fuck! Cover compromised. He knows I'm here!" She warns someone, letting the smoke of the explosion cloud up the hall, allowing her to find a secondary vent to slip away in, chuckling to herself as she does so.
"You're pretty clever, Ophion. But you won't win this time. You're in here, somewhere."

>>29587198
Next Attack?
>1 Focus Tartarus
>2 Focus foe's BC's
>3 Focus foe's Destroyers
>4 Write in

Positioning
>1 Take point with Athena
>2 Stay back at medium range
>3 Move further out, preparing for retreat when allies arrive. (Note: UFW are expecting you to battle with them)

Androids
>1 Chase after her
>2 Head her off-she's appears to be heading to the center of the ship
>3 Write in

Bandwidth usage (41)
> Hack
> Weapon Accuracy
> Orders
> Androids

((Discuss for a moment, if you will))

>>29587152
Me too, it's done that before, and it makes me nervous as hell.

>>29587154
Thank you, I am happy to be back.

((Now I just need to stop dropping trip...))

>>29587222
>>1 Focus Tartarus
>>2 Stay back at medium range
>>2 Head her off-she's appears to be heading to the center of the ship
>> Weapon Accuracy

>>29587222
Attack?
>1 Focus Tartarus
Kronos! cripple him!

Positioning
>1 Take point with Athena
we will tear them apart

Androids
>3 Write in
both can be done! swarm her! and snag her steath ship!

Bandwidth usage (41)
i believe we divided that up last thread. but we need to return to cover our bases i fear we lost Argeis. tell it to play dead, they may leave. we HAVE to send reenforcement to moria's factory base! how many people got hurt in poseidon? and did our people and moira escape our lab?

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>>29587416
here we go
41 bandwidth.
Activate the Data Corruption Virus, and Zombie virus.
39.
Assign One of each to the three battlecruisers at Argeis.
33.
Assign one of each to the two BCs at Blue better.
29.
Hit Tartarus with them.
27.
Lag the shit out of Prometheus' BCs. 10 to be precise.
7.
Spend wisely.

We'll have 7 left.

I propose that, if we ever detect missiles heading for our main ship, we use the carriers fighters to intercept any we cant shoot down

>>29587084
B'aaaw, we didn't tell him that we would give up our armaments to him? That's too bad.

>>29587222
>4
Let's focus the vast majority of our light turrets and maybe even some of the medium ones as necessary on top of our point defenses whenever the enemy fires, try to reduce their volleys as much as possible.

The Wombat's vast number of (relatively) light precision turrets should prove excellent for the role of point defense as well, I hope.

The hacking and virus attacks should reduce te focus on the Tartarus and instead focus on the escorting fleet. Hopefully it should prove a far easier target without its supporting ship.

>Positioning
Depends, what are the primary armaments of Athena? Go for whatever role she is more competent in.

>Androids
>1
>2
Surely we have enough androids to both intercept her and bar her path? Preferably capture her alive if possible. If we can get an android in her way in these tight vents then she might be trapped or at least greatly slowed down.
Even if she destroys it, its wreckage will bar her path (unless she has something like a melta, and if it works like a melta it would fry her as well in such tight corners, I suspect).

Also, I thought we were blocking her communications? We obviously don't want her reporting on ours ships' interior.

>Bandwidth usage
Try to use it reasonably as per orders above. ^
Whatever spread is most optimal, but try to reinforce Blue Betty, whether that is by completely disabling the ships there by hacking or by well-aimed gunfire matters little.

Securing ships intact is secondary to survival right now, so whatever is more efficient for that goal.

>>29587222
Next Attack
>1 Focus Tartarus

Positioning
>2 Stay back at medium range
no need to commit sudoku just yet, we have "minions" that can be replaced

Androids
>3 Split up, half to intercept, half to follow
she must not become a real threat to this ship, if so all is lost.
Bandwidth usage (41)
> Hack
10
> Weapon Accuracy
20
> Orders

> Androids
11

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>>29587494
we must take Rhea alive. and you know what? lets take that vice admiral as well if we can. if we do so, enough 'convinceing' we might be able to flip them to your side. hopefully with out too much brain raping...

we need to save out factory as well, we can't replace it! but blue betty does need help as well.

>>29587416
None have been harmed yet at Poseidon, the defenses are taking the brunt of the assault so far. You do received panicked messages from the people there, but it's nothing substantial.

But yes, you managed to slip your scientists out of Ussaihu. Just barely.

>>29587459
Many of the enemy battlecruisers are already affected by the virus.
You may wish to choose another course, unless you intend to just keep bombarding them with the virus to keep them down.
Note this virus slows them, but doesn't fully stop them. They are more vulnerable to hacking now, however.

Also Prometheus is aboard the Tartarus.

>>29587494
I wrote most of it in my lack of internet state, sadly. Forgot that line.

>Athena
As listed, it's most powerful slots are Mass Drivers.
It's the close range type of ship.

>Androids
You do, I simply presented the most obvious ways to head her off.

>Comms
She was using a hard connection on her Stealth ship. The deeper she goes into the ship the harder it will be for her to establish a signal.

>>29587478
Oooh, good one!
They are substantially cheaper than, you know, dying.

>>29587459
I'd prefer disabling or converting those battlecruisers or destroyers completely, starting with those at Blue Betty, rather than just slowing them down.

Once they're converted or disabled we no longer need to spend bandwidth bogging them down, even if we can't reach as many with conversion/disabling as we'd be able to with mere slowing.

Also, I suspect the viruses are using the ships that they have infected for Bandwidth now, and should function autonomously once they've gained purchase within the ships' systems, should they not?

>>29587604
I disagree, they must die

and the factories can be rebuilt, they are of no priority to me.

If we send Light Cruiser 'Little Tim' / V.I. 9 to act as backup to V.I. 10 at Blue Betty, would it get there in time? I don't want to lose that platform.

Spend BW to pull V.I. 11 out of the base, and surrender it (we built that rescue capacity into our V.I.s after we lost one to the Losirians)

>>29587645
They can die when they've told us what they know.
For now, let's see how well Rhea can deal with dozens of cat-sized spiders jumping at her with tazers and machine guns (firing to cripple only).

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>>29587645
we can always make them dead later. a live person can be made down right talkive. we don't have the tech remake the factory! we lose it, that's it! unless Program0 missed something i also over looked.
>>29587641
true. if we can take control away of those BC, we should do so.
>>29587626
i wonder if we can tap into Rhea's comm line and just talk to her. i also realized we should add bulk heads in our passageways to stop this in the future.

>>29587810
>unless Program0 missed something i also over looked.
You are what my gaming group calls "a shadow GM"

>>29587222
Next Attack?
>2 Focus foe's BC's
>3 Focus foe's Destroyers
>4 Write in
I want maximum defensive position. Tartarus is a capture order

Positioning
As I said, maximum defensive position.

Androids
>1 Chase after her
>2 Head her off-she's appears to be heading to the center of the ship
>3 Write in
Do both. Defend at choke points, keep pressure on her. Scatter some around the ship to make sure we don't lose her. Be careful, she may be cybernetically enhanced!

Bandwidth usage (41)
> Hack
> Weapon Accuracy
> Orders
> Androids
Give a burst of bandwidth to our Androids at the opportune moment, make reasonable attempts at capture. If not, then we understand.

Ask Kronos if it is possible to wipe out another significant section using the widowmaker, if so then provide bandwidth burst for targeting.

We need the fighters to provide defensive cover for our fleet. Have them intercept missiles that get past our defenses. Ram them if necessary!

Hack Rhea's and the stealth ship's comms, maybe we can gain access to their military net?

>>29587795
In addition to this:
>>29587222
Next Attack:
1. Tartarus.

Positioning
1. Take point blank with Athena.
They want us alive, use that to our advantage.

Androids
3. Why not both? Crush her limbs or cut them off. There shouldn't be any atmosphere on our ship, either. In space, nobody can hear you scream.

BW:
Weapon Accuracy, Androids, and rescuing V.I. 11.

>>29587604
That's not a good idea. In fact, it might backfire on us horribly. At most get Rhea for interrogation, let not even think of the other commander while his ship is still intact.

>>29587882
These suggestions also sound very good, and largely compatible with my own and Fluffbringers'.

Are the decisionss clear enough, Program0, or should we try to get something more definite down?

>>29587908
well, you have a good point, we have not really confirmed he's even here on his battleship.
>>29587863
nope. go here
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

>>29587941
Do you intend to lose V.I. 11 and Blue Betty? That's a loss of 225 gas per cycle plus rebuilding costs, as well as losing more V.I.s which Kronos (or the others) might not let us live down.

I want reinforcements to Blue Betty and a rescue order for V.I. 11.

We can lose ships, but losing mining bases is worse. The measly 75 we mine from that one base I can live with (and we can rebuild it better). Not the 200 hit. That's just too much.

>>29587903

I disagree, focus attacks at the fleet at large. I'm saving Tartarus for a hacking attack.

Also, focus all resources over here, we can't afford to spread ourselves thin.

Positioning
I want maximum defensive posture. The more time we have, the more time to hack.

>>29587941
Thanks for your support.

>>29587222
i like this guy >>29587882

>>29587908
>At most get Rhea for interrogation, let not even think of the other commander while his ship is still intact.
this has my vote, there is no reason to get greedy in a battle like this

>>29587903
And this (assuming Tartarus is only to be attacked once the rest of the support fleet is down).

Noone said "Non-lethal" capture had to be non-damaging.

>>29587863
I'm somewhat curious on precisely what that means.
If it means that he's trying to create this world together with the GM and the players I can't honestly say it seems like a bad thing.
World building is the bigger and more interesting brother of character development in my mind.

>>29587222
Attack:
>Focus Foes BC's.
(Deferring to others, if required.)

Positioning:
>Medium Range

Androids:
>Head Her off

Bandwidth:
>Hack:
>ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of the enemies assaulting V.I.11 and V.I.10
>ANY LEFT OVERS are to be spent assaulting Tartatus.

BattleComment:
"Humanity, Admiral? How can you speak of humanity, in your current state? You've given up what it means to be human, by refusing to acknowledge what it means to be you, and cutting out your individuality and soul piece by sordid piece. At least Rhea, as poor as she did, fought the Guild as herself, not a sad reflection of a human. No, Admiral, this is no fight of man versus man, nor man versus xeno. This is between you, and me."

Possible consensus

Focus Attack (1)
>1 Tartarus
>2 Distribute Fire evenly
>3 Focus defensive, shooting down missiles instead of damage
>4 Write in

Positioning (1)
>1 Move in Close
>2 Stay at Medium Range
>3 Move further out.


Androids (7)
>1 Divide evenly, and send bots after her both ways, defend at choke points when possible.
>2 Head her off with all
>3 Chase with all
>4 Write in

Bandwidth (29 (after bandwidth costs above))
> Use 15 bandwidth to hack weakened Battlecruisers
>Use 10 while attempting to hack Tartarus
>Use the rest in accuracy

Reinforcments
>Send Light Cruiser force to Blue Betty to defend (1)
>Spend Bandwidth (2) to emergency retrieve V.I. 11

>>29587810
>We don't have the tech to remake a factory
You know how to make a Shipyard. Which is essentially what that place is.

>>29588044
I'd rather leave the world building to the QM honestly. Fan fics are fine, but they should be treated as non canon imo.

>>29588073
>>ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of the enemies assaulting V.I.11 and V.I.10
>>ANY LEFT OVERS are to be spent assaulting Tartatus.
If we're not going to send them backup, this is the least we can do.

>>29588004
What, no?
I did suggest we send reinforcement in the form of hacking or greater targeting to Blue Betty.
If we can get a light cruiser in time for it all the better.

>>29588006
I like his general plan as well, time is on our side in this.

>>29588011
And that.

Probably best to keep Athena back for now and try to minimize our own losses as much as possible for now.

>>29588095
Those () beside things (except bandwidth) are bandwidth costs by the way.

Also, this is the final tally up, I'll pick whichever stuff gets the most votes, so pick all the ones you wish to add!

>>29588044
true, she has cyber arms and legs most likely. those need to be disabled or ruined so she can not fight back or escape.

thank you. I am attempting to do character development in my stories as well. but it's not something i am forcing on anyone.

Also, the UFW is going to reenforce us soon. how much, i don't know. but it should help.

>>29588095
Focus Attack (1)
>3 Focus defensive, shooting down missiles instead of damage
>4 Write in
If Kronos has an attack of opportunity with the widowmaker, he takes it

Positioning (1)
Whatever is the maximum defensive position.

Androids (7)
>1 Divide evenly, and send bots after her both ways, defend at choke points when possible.
>4 Write in
Use burst of bandwidth to ensure successful capture or termination.

Bandwidth (29 (after bandwidth costs above))
> Use 15 bandwidth to hack weakened Battlecruisers
>Use 10 while attempting to hack Tartarus
Also, devote bandwidth on attacking Rhea's comms, is there a possible weak point in their military net?

Reinforcements
>Spend Bandwidth (2) to emergency retrieve V.I. 11

>>29588095
Focus Attack
>Distribute Fire Evenly, More On Defense

Positioning
>Medium Range

Androids
>Divide Evenly, attempt melee.

Bandwidth
>Hack Weakened BCs assaulting our out-of-fight bases.
>spend any extra grinding down Tartarus

Reinforcements
>WRITE IN: Back-up V.I. 11/V.I. 10, whichever is in most danger. Questions of the soul are irrelevant for sub-sapient V.I.s.

>>29588095
>3 Focus defensive, shooting down missiles instead of damage

>2 Stay at Medium Range

>1 Divide evenly, and send bots after her both ways, defend at choke points when possible.

> Use 15 bandwidth to hack weakened Battlecruisers
>Use 4 while attempting to hack Tartarus
>Use 10 in accuracy

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>>29588095
i agree with consensus

oh? i though Moira's factory was a smelter and fabrication plant, not just a ship yard now. i misunderstood then.

>>29588095
3
2
1
2
1

>>29588095
>adds up to 41
Neat.jpg

Here I go!

>Focus attack
2. Whoever was suggesting this has convinced me.

Positioning.
1. Move in close. Are they going to blow up Athena with Rhea on board?

Androids
1. Divide evenly. This seems like it's going to succeed more than the others. We should have full readout of the layout of the ship, so we should be able to head her off while herding her into those sections.

>BW
Seems reasonable

>Reinforcements
Acceptable.

>>29588273
>>BW
>Seems reasonable
Wait no hang on.

Change that to what >>29588234 said:
>Use 15 bandwidth to hack weakened Battlecruisers
>Use 4 while attempting to hack Tartarus
>Use 10 in accuracy

>>29588073
Should probably not mention that his "not human" is closer to "Superhuman" than "twisted abomination".

Or make reference that the machine is not what has consumed his soul, but the actions he uses them for.

>>29588095
>Focus Attack
>3

>Positioning(1)
>Whichever gives us the greatest defensive ability, so move further out (>3), I would assume?

>Androids(7)
>1
>4
Try to clog passageways up, approach her from every angle at once. If we have bulkheads that we can seal, do so. If she tries making a stand while hacking them or trying to open them, box up androids behind them and suddenly open and swarm her with them.
Try to capture her alive if feasible, but kill her if capture is not an option when all probability points to her otherwise reaching something critical.

>>29588106
Wasn't talking about the fanfic, actually.
We've been doing a lot of worldbuilding on the 1d4chan page over the weeks and it's very fun.

I do believe they later ones are non-canon so far. Program0 essentially reviews them before he makes any statement about their canonity.

>>29588307
>"twisted abomination"
Yeah, that's what I intended (and if it could be interpreted or changed around to be like that, all the better). Slipped up on putting it in the snippet, though. Just want to hammer home the whole "you have weakened yourself" without shitting all over robots and robot parts, for obvious reasons.

>>29588273
>>29588298
I would devote more bandwidth to hacking, unless Kronos has another shot at the widowmaker.

Also, in addition to my suggestion:
>>29588208
Attempt melee with the androids. Grapple her and break her limbs. Fire rockets at point blank range if necessary.

>>29588234
Boo, no hacking Tartarus right now. Use it on the Battlecruisers at Blue Betty instead, for example.
Let's focus on one goal at a time.

>>29588095
>Bandwidth
>Use 15 to hack (ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL) of weakened battlecruisers (prioritize those at blue betty), use the rest to retrieve V.I.11, sending light cruiser to defend Blue Betty and for accuracy, in that order of priority.

None for Hacking Tartarus, we'll do that when it's without support.

>>29588376
Use tentacles for melee restraint. He's practically made for it.

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>>29588307
i can always re-write my fics to make them canon if needed or wanted. i do try to make my works as close to cannon as possible.

I really feel like we should shoot down his missile salvo. Since he probably doesn't have a reload.

>>29588408

This here
>>29588208
Actually good point, changing vote to this.

>>29588438
+10 Tentacles of grappling against sci-fi women

>>29587626
What about all of our research on Ussaihu, was that saved as well? Was everything that was left behind destroyed?

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>>29588408
yea, let our wombat chew up the tartarus some more.

>>29588478
Or only has one or two reloads.

>>29588490
And did we get the other black box?

>>29588543
And the data canister containing the viral AI?

>>29588448
I'm not terribly worried about canon, the point of this game is to have fun. Also, I'm used to comics where canon is literally what the writer says at the moment.

>>29588478
>>29588510
I hope to god this ship is not specialized in missile reloads. It would kill us.

>>29588495
What is the wombat?

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>>29588478
I think our ECM mk3 can handle most of it.
>>29588480
oh... oh my. Rhea expriences the 'joys' of being taken to /d/ for awhile. that might end any resistance from her.

>>29588573
It wouldn't be able to fit more than 2-3 reloads

>>29588590
well...

we could subdue her by hacking into her brain and tickling the pleasure senses. Those implants must have a neural link somehow.

>>29588543
>>29588567
I know we got the other black box, where is the viral AI being stored? I consider that more important.

>>29588590
I hope Program0 gives us this bonus, just for the Lulz. It's a fucking sci-fi cliche.

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>>29588589
a new type of ship we made. it is built to cripple ships so we can take them with out risking a reactor hit.

>>29588590
Well they DO appear to have a robot fetish.

Would they worship us if they knew what we are?

>>29588589
A ship we designed and built.
Apparently intended for the same purpose as a Battletech Warhammer: Wreck anything as big/tough as it, or bigger and/or tougher.
'Honey Badger' might have been more apt.

>>29588642
How does it do it?

>>29588495
Though I agree with
>>29588478
we could probably use the Wombat to strike at the missile shutters, thus both acting as point defense and reducing the ships' ability to fire missiles simultaneously.

>>29588448
It is only when no further changes can be made that a story can be considered a success or failure. In short, I appreciate the sentiment of accepting criticism and editing your work to improve it even after the first version has been seen.

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>>29588632
people can be trained or cybered to ignore or resist pain, but pleasure is not likely to be resisted.

>>29588658
We could totally send it on a suicide run at the tartarus to hopefully keep it busy for a turn.

>>29588682
Plasma cannons. It's probably intended to fry systems more than anything.

>>29588703
So we're agreeing to shoot down all missiles, or as many as possible, but give the other vis free reign?

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>>29588682
>>29588703
yes, the intent is to find the weak points on a target ship and make highly accurate hits to nail them. like the cannon barrels, missile ports, sensors, adjustment thrustors, etc...

>>29588658
>honey badger.
....i can't believe i forgot about that one. welp! we can use that name for a later ship type then.

>>29588589
>>29588658
>>29588682

It's a ship equipped with an advanced sensor suite for aiming and a poundload of medium and light turrets. It strips external systems (weapons, sensors, engines) in order to render a ship helpless without ever having to breach the thick hull.

Even a battleships' thick hull can do little to defend the systems that are external to that hull.

>>29588733
Not sure, according to Program0 plasma cannons would have to defeat shields first. There was discussion of replacing the plasma cannons with high-precision mass drivers for this reason, but not sure if we ever got around to it.

>>29588703
(This is me, name fell off)

>>29588759
Was more thinking "Fight as defensively as possible".

>>29588818
Anybody else interested in making a melee ship?

Or maybe trying to domesticate the lightlings?

>>29588818
is that some Unbreakable Machinedoll?

>>29588863
>melee ship
Only if we populate it entirely with an ecology of drones which, in their natural state, attempt to out-do and kill each other in a sick pantomime of evolution.
And then it breaches an enemy's hull, and the murder begins.

>>29588818
We can also change it if we like.
We're Ophion, after all. (And the name was never really decided, a number of suggestions were put forth but never voted on)

>>29588860
So if we slag his missile bays when he tries to fire again they'll blow up in his ship?

Hopefully?

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>>29588874
yes it is. we should make a gynoid like her some day.
>>29588863
the wombat IS a melee ship. but a purpose built boarding ship might be needed later.

>>29588490
>>29588543
You designated there was no time, and left it all behind.
It's not been destroyed yet.

>>29588567
That is onboard Athena

>>29588635
I giggled at the thought.

Consensus Achieved
>Focus Fire: On defense, shoot down missiles as much as possible, and protect the fleet.
(1d100 on defense)

>Positioning: Remain at medium range, away from the enemy fleet.

>Androids: Are to divide themselves evenly, and pursue/defend choke points. They have orders to capture her alive, if possible, and to disable by any means needed.
(1d100 for pursuit)

>Bandwidth: Is spent as such
>15 towards hacking weakened Battlecruisers
>10 to attempt to hit Tartarus, despite possible virus wall
(1d100 to initiate hacking)

>Reinforcments: Send Big Tim (V.I. 9) to reinforce Blue Betty. Also spend 2 bandwidth to extract V.I. 11 and store him in your banks.
(1d100 for extraction)

If this is acceptable, begin rolling.

>>29588863
The Wombat is pretty much as close to a melee ship in space ranges that we're going to get without making it ram other ships.
Which we may well make it do.

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Program......

>>29588896
Dude:
carrier class + Space sentinal drones:
Watch the swarm just buzz out of it and engulf an enemy ship before tearing into it to get inside.

>>29588896
Or maybe just a fuck ton of Androids all clinging to an engine. Then ram an enemy and let them swarm. I suggest Mr. Tentacles for this.

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>>29588863
>Anybody else interested in making a melee ship?

The idea of "melee ship" is never not stupid. Maybe it's awesome stupid, but it's still stupid. At that point might as well go full Gundam.

I don't think combat is taking place at as close distances as you think, or that this is a worthwhile pursuit in this quest.

Unless you mean "boarding ship," which I think we liberated from the Losirians and are now in command of.

Rolled 22

>>29588933
Rolling for extraction.

Rolled 62, 67, 53, 53 = 235

>>29588933
Time to see how it all plays out.

Rolled 53, 65, 7, 15 = 140

>>29588933

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Rolled 20, 64, 27, 45 = 156

>>29588933
here we go!

Rolled 18, 57, 1, 55 = 131

>>29588933

Rolled 89, 67, 10 = 166

>>29588973
Fuck it, going to roll for all BUT extraction.
(as I already rolled for it; thank god I got that low one out of the way)

Rolled 2, 59, 36, 77 = 174

>>29588949
The lightlings pull it off pretty well.

Rolled 45, 25, 40, 73 = 183

>>29588933

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Rolled 87, 91, 38, 90 = 306

>>29588942
>>29588945
That's terrifying, and I like it.

>>29588933
Forget hacking Tartarus for now, spend it on accuracy or to supplement the BC hacking.

Rolled 83, 25, 10, 77 = 195

>>29588977
Slightly above average.

How unlike A.I. Quest

Rolled 86, 86, 36, 31 = 239

>>29588909
Or at least that particular part of the ship.
Even if they just fail to fire, that's one less missile we'll have to deal with in this wave AND the next, just because of using a different target.

>>29588933
Wait, I thought we said that she SHOULD bring the Black Box if she could?

>10 to attempt to hit Tartarus, despite possible virus wall

Weren't the suggestions for 4 at most for this, not 10?
(Rolling either way, but hoping it'll be no more than 4 for hacking Tartarus.)

>>29589023
Just too late

>>29589043
10 is the cost in bandwidth.

>>29589006
They have a microwarp effect so they can close that range quickly.

>>29589060
You know how it is, roll a 1 one day, then two >90s the next.

>>29589043
If she could.
She could not.

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>>29588996
> Depressed

>>29589076
What's preventing them from us doing the same?

>>29588942
We actually made something like that in the boarding torpedoes. (They drill inside the ship, then unleash a swarm of spiderbots and send the laser drill inside as a heavy weapon on legs)

The only reason we don't send the actual torpedo inside as a unit is that it's simply not practical to send the part with big honking engines, anti-starship armor and magnetic clamps inside a ship compared to a swarm of spider-bots. (Think headcrabs, but way faster, constantly moving and with guns)

>>29589023
>Forget hacking Tartarus for now, spend it on accuracy or to supplement the BC hacking.
This please, if possible.

>>29588996
Well looks like we just lost any chance at hacking them

>>29589112
Boy, do I know that feel.

>>29589138
The current state of warp technology is unable to contend with the Lightling's natural propensity for it; the tech is not as advanced as the biology for short-term warp travel: it is designed for long distance travel.

>>29589166
Which is why we should domesticate them.

>>29589065
But the consensus seemed to only devote 4 bandwidth to hacking Tartarus, not 10?
Or did I missunderstand something?

>>29589138
Some anaylzing how they work, I suspect
It may also not be compatible with a non-energy body.

>>29589209
Yes, it was only 4

>>29589160
Still would double up as ground invasion/station invasion crafts as well.

>>29589105
um... can we keep a sensor scanning any UGEI ship or unknown ship that is heading towards the lab? the last thing we need is someone sneaking in behind us and steal the damn thing!

What about that giant shipyard defense thing? I assume that's firing too?

They probably won't fire at it too

>>29589277
I assume our 20 defense platforms have been taken into account.

>>29589234
That they would.
>>29589190
I am in full agreement with this.

>>29589245
It's probably a good idea in general, but I'm not sure we should spare the bandwidth right now.

I think if we can turn the battle to our favor, our next step is to disable the Tartarus's engines and proceed to use Athena's androids for boarding action.

>>29589422
Do we have the boarding torpedoe spiders?

>>29589422
We may even want to quickly write up a simplistic software program to guide the androids en-masse.

Just something simple that translates certain movements to commands so we can say "walk forward" instead of having to manually control each of their limbs.

>>29589448
I mean coming up really close, blasting a boarding hole, and dumping our droids into the Tartarus

>I shall can this the Android rape maneuver

>>29589448
A substantial number of the androids are of that kind, I believe.

And I think we ordered some boarding torpedoes (ready and loaded with previously mentioned boarding teams), yes.

>>29589475
With all 3.1 of our androids?

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>>29589422
>turn the battle to our favor
>shit rolls
I am less than hopeful.

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Updated Map - now with the 'Dark Space Structure' icon

Speaking of which, after this battle is complete I believe that we should move all of our shipyards out into DS; and that we should also construct a 'data-sphere' somewhere beyond the UFW as an ultimate fall-back location for us if we are about to be destroyed.

For the second idea to work however, we really need to understand the inner workings of our black box - so recovering the UGEI one from Ussaihu is crucial!

>>29589475
Just wait until we get the Wombat to have a hollow armored boarding-spike which it uses to punch through helpless ships and transfer its dangerous load of wriggly things.

(Was discussed on 1d4chan, but don't think that design feature was ever confirmed)

>>29589520

I hope he's using this
>>29589023
one.

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>>29589527
BASE MAPFAG! thank you! this looks awesome!

>>29589559
Yeah, I'm just saying that once we take care of the supporting fleet we can engage of the Tartarus in a knife fight.

>>29589561
He's not. Probably the 1. And the first one.

>>29589507
I believe we also have a number of boarding torpedoes, each with something like a dozen spiderbots and a mobile heavy laser for cutting through stubborn people and stubborn bulkheads.

>>29589527
You are a fag who delivers.

>>29589585
I got an amusing mental image of a cyber-bum knife fighting an admiral-bum, like something out of UA.

>>29589590
Well we're about to find out soon,

>>29589585
Considering that its primary load is missiles, that may or may not be a great idea. (Less time for point defenses to catch missiles, but our own weapons fire so much more reliably)

>>29589707
I just hope this is it's main volley.

>>29589707
I'm pretty sure once we're up pretty close, it's a lot harder for all the missiles to hit us.

And if anyone wants robot art: >>29585695

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>>29588933
>Focus Fire on defense
Attacking is not to your interest right now, you realize. You order your fleet to hold position, Kronos' fleet included, demanding that they stop their advance. Moving in close may be worse then staying where you are. You realize much of the fleet is specialized in missiles, and so you tell your fleet to focus it's defenses on point defense. Many of your guns are not specifically meant for such a design, but you do own many powerful Mass Drivers. They help you greatly as you blast dozens of missiles out of the sky, before they even reach your PD system. Fortuna is intent to help and sends some of her own fighters in to shoot down, and even collide with the missiles in an impressive yet suicidal display, exploding in a void shaking eruption. Those missiles are strong. You want them for yourself. As each fighter explodes, you can feel each ripple through the system tiny as it is travel straight back to Fortuna. She does not complain, but you know she does not enjoy the action, even if it is needed.
You watch as each cannon on Athena opens fire, along with the fighter swarm and much of your fleet's firepower, trying to reduce the impact as much as possible. Many of the missiles are destroyed, though some still make contact, causing one of your battlecruisers to erupt into flames, the explosion tearing it asunder and sending slag and metal flying in all directions. Kronos seems the most displeased by this, and again, activates the Widow Maker without your consent. The powerful beam glows and within seconds, it fires forward, carving a path straight through the Destroyer fleet, and after a second passes, the ones hit erupt into fire as well.
"They are fodder." Kronos mutters bitterly. "We can not harm their main ships this way." He warns. Hades on the other hand seems to have gone silent, instructing the fleet to fire just as you directed, a loyal soldier if ever there was one.

(cont)

>>29589867
Thanks!

(Is Program0 gone? It's been fifty minutes since er last message...)

>Rhea
Your androids follow your orders directly as they're able. You do not have much bandwidth to spare. Unit 1 sets up it's own disruption field, to stop Rhea's communication. Unit 2 and 3 are in hot pursuit of Rhea herself, 2 scanning each vent as it chases after the woman for any disruptions and immediately shooting itself down each vent, keeping pace with the impressively fast woman. It's eye laser catches hint of her legs at times and opens fire, but sadly misses target. So close each time. Unit 3 is clinging to Unit 2, ready to leap off should it be given the chance. Unit 4, the child-like communication's expert is with Unit 1 and assisting to redouble the disruption. Units 5-7 have begun their slow trek to the center of the ship. They know paths Rhea does not, and will arrive soon, though you hope soon enough.

You lose track of Rhea with Unit 2, though you're not far behind. You catch glimpses of her here and there, and know she can't be too far ahead. You'll catch her, you must...

>Hacking
Reminder, crit fails and successes don't count when I ask for multi-rolls. Too damn common. Heh, you managed it only because of the zombie virus.
You reach out with your mind once more. You must stop these assaults on your bases, you decide. This web of a firewall is tough, and tangled, but thanks to your viruses work, you find the opening you need. Immediately, your colors flow through it like new blood, flushing out the UGEI's control (as you suspected, these were automated ships, lack of humans onboard is clear. You spread quickly through the system, and you managed to rip all 15 cruisers from your enemies control. However, in that same second, you feel a sudden overwhelming force slam against your mind. The Vice Admiral's voice rings clear in your mind.
(Cont)

"No! You will not taint my ships with your foreign data! Humanity will not stand for your terrorism!"
"Humanity, Admiral?" You scoff in the best way you know how. "How can you of all speak of humanity? You are nothing more then a tool, a machine of war for the UGEI. You've had your humanity cut out in sordid pieces, and now you cling to past motives."
"How...dare you insult me in such a way, you filthy xeno." He growls, and the blindingly bright consciousness before you rams into you again.
"This is not man versus xeno. Nor is it man versus man. This is between you, and I."
The Admiral is attempting to regain control of his ships in his main fleet.
Mind battle initiated.

>Reinforcments
Will ignore the orders for Tim, since you succeeded in hacking all the ships there. Just realized it's Little Tim, not Big Tim also.
You manage to extract V.I. 11 from Argeis, and store him in your data banks, just to be safe. The V.I., you feel, is unsure why you would risk so much to save a life as small as his own, but it is indeed grateful. As grateful as the sub intellect can be, that is.

The other ships the Vice Admiral is letting fall under your control, however, immediately about face and destroy it's compliment of Destroyers. They stand no chance with the Cruisers and defenses turned against them. Poseidon loses one more cannon in the process, but manages to obliterate what remains of the foes Destroyer fleet. And with the BCs at Blue Betty under your control, you don't risk losing the base any longer.


>All fringe bases secured

How shall you approach the next round?
>Attack plan change?
>Hacking distribution?
>Android plan change?

((Discuss for a moment, if you will.))

>>29589245
Sensors tell you these things, don't fear. They're focusing on your fleet and the defenses right now.

>>29589277
It sure is. And they are blasting it many many times. Vice Admiral Mad.

>>29589527
That looks awesome map anon.
Can't wait for Exploreing Cruiser to come back...so much filling out.

>>29589917
All personal BW too hacking, have Hades and Fortuna defend, have Kronos unload on Tartarus.

>>29589917
Distribution plan, from most Bandwidth to least:
Androids, Attack, Hacking.
Intent, Androids: We have to boost these fuckers, and get them to run-down Rhea before she kills our box. We're gonna have to dump some shit in here.
Intent, Attack: We need to go on the offensive, and begin assaulting his main ships, as Kronos pointed out. We should work our way up from least important important ships, to most important.
Intent, Hacking: Our objective here should be to secure a foothold, and keep the Admiral from regaining control. We can afford to let our ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL actions wind-down while we secure the beach head. A special note: We should get any controlled ships near a now non-threatened base of ours to warp somewhere else. Either into our battle, or into the Lightling Mother's maw. Either works.

>>29589917
I'm a little bit confused. We now control the cruisers that were attacking the fringe bases, correct?

What does
>The other ships the Vice Admiral is letting fall under your control, however, immediately about face and destroy it's compliment of Destroyers.
Refer to? Which cruisers and which destroyers?

>>29589917
Hack it!

>>29590014
>>29590037
Don't forget about Rhea, who is in our base and threatening our Keystone.

>>29590014
>>29590019
These work.

>>29590055
Of course. It is more meant to keep what we have there and use the plan for the rest

>>29590027
Indeed. You also control 10 Battlecruisers in the main fleet-though the Vice Admiral is competing for their control.

That line means he let the ships at your other bases fall under your control, and seems more concerned with the ten in his main fleet.

>>29589917
Install the polymorphic and trojan virus on the captured BCs, to activate if someone else besides us gains control of the BCs.

All captured BC, initiate attack on the Tartarus's engines. We are not letting it escape. Initiate ramming speed. (Actually start ramming BCs into the engine, disable it's warping ability)

Move Athena and the fleet into close combat. Time for a knife fight. Focus on disabling engines, then prepare Tartarus for boarding action.

Also, dumb bandwidth into Androids. We are ending Rhea's threat now.

>>29589917
Order all of the ships we just took over to warp immediately to the battle here.

If we took over in ships in the Vice Admirals' main fleet, order them into suicide missions against his larger capital ships. He must not regain control of them and this way, their sacrifice can help us!

>>29590086
Well jump the others in to aid us. Then ram the 10 at the battle into the tartus

>>29590019
I agree with this, in general.

Disabling Rhea is top priority.

Have all our ships go full--out attack. Kronos is right. Why we went defensive, I'll never know.

Hacking should be focused only on denying the Admiral anything, not to fight back against him. Can we grant O.S.N. more BW to help with thwarting the Admiral's attack? It was written specifically to help with situations like this.

>>29590086
Ok, thank you for clarification.

>>29590093
>>29590116
>>29590147
BTW, when we say ramming, overload the power and engine cores for maximum damage.

>>29590116
>>29590147
RAMMING SPEED.

If we can pull it off, do it. Otherwise, keep them where they are.

>>29589994
>Can't wait for Exploreing Cruiser to come back...so much filling out.
Ahh excellent, I have much about the map that I wish to discuss, but it should wait until this session is over.

>>29590093
Hold off on the knife fight for now, we just survived the first wave, he has to have at least 1-2 reloads
2 more.

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>>29589917
have Kronos contiue the wombat's crippling of the Admiral's battleship, we can now pour more BW into our hacking of his main ship along side our viruses, also pour some more BW into the androids persuing Rhea, this is taking too long. if possible, send a radio signal pulse and see if we can get a 'sonar' like effect of our insides to see where she is at.

as to the attack plan, full aim for the Admiral's thrusters so he can not escape with that battle ship! see if we can find an escape pods/ships he might have or docks and distroy them

>>29589917
"But now I'm curious, Admiral, what do you think I am? A Losirian genius? Some form of pervert Malorian? Or even a horrifying, eldritch energy being from beyond known space?"
Let him respond, then:
"But of course, it doesn't matter. You and I are both sons of man, though you seem to have lost your way. You've rejected what heritage you had laid out in front of you, and denied your birthright. I can understand your ambition, greed, pleasure, but why? Why would you willingly distance yourself from your kin? Why would you become an alien to your very mother and father?"

Alternatively (referencing the first snippet):
"That last one is closest to the truth, you know."

>>29590159
We went defense because we were facing a Massive as fuck missile swarm, and we may face another one soon. And he can't have more than 1-2 reloads, and once he's out he is far weaker.

Plus it's better to hack then destroy, only attack enough to do damage. That's why we should let Kronos unload on him for now.

>>29589885
Send Fortuna a pulse of compassion or whatever the equivalent to a hand on er shoulder is.
>>29589901
Aaah! Don't we have any doors or bulkheads we can close on her?
I mean, it doesn't seem like the kind of thing we should need to specify?
Also, weren't bulkheads mentioned specifically for the purpose of closing off damaged sections. Can't this be done to impede her progress?
Are there no interior turrets?
Why is our interior control so remarkably poor?
(Did bulkheads in fact close on her, but she cut through them nigh-instantly and effortlessly, even with thickness meant to retain structural integrity in the face of entire sections crumpling?)

>>29589917
Let's begin a scathing tirate of critique against his enhancements. List every single flaw they have, how weak they have. List every single human flaw they did not help him with, like biases and clear and/or rational thought. Mock him while fighting him down every step.

And let's see if any of our viruses are compatible with his brain, he may be exposing himself in some manner doing this.

>How shall you approach the next round?
Let us double the amount of bandwidth to the androids and divide the rest 60/40 to Hacking/Aiming?

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>>29590176
>>29590173
>>29590116
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! over kill there! if things start looking bad, we can do that, this isn't over yet! try shifting control of the new BC we took over to our V.I.s to help make up the losses they suffered. if they can still fight, use them.

>>29590243
Yeap

>>29590265
I rather dump full bandwidth into stopping Rhea. Tune all sensors into scanning the Athena and pinpointing her location, and maximum boost androids into stopping her.

>>29590291
It's just 10 battle cruisers. Plus it should take down his shields and maybe cripple its engines. And there is a chance he takes them back via bad rolls or hidden backdoor.

>>29590291
We're overstretched at the moment and I fear we might lose the ships we just gained if we try and battle the Vice Admiral for them.

I'd rather dump BW into our androids finding Rhea and send these few BCs to their suicidal deaths then let her find our core!!

>>29590291
Well, if it helps, we should also install polymorphic and trojan software on them.

Next round decisions
Attack
>1 Remain defensive
>2 Move into knife fight range to make sure of your Mass Drivers.
>3 Write in

Bandwidth
>1 Spend on defending your hacked ships
>2 Spend on ship accuracy
>3 Spend on hacking new ships/sending more viruses
>4 Write In

Androids
>1 Spend bandwidth to enhance reaction time
>2 Maintain blockades, track her movements via the comm signal she tried to use before, and hope she didn't turn it off yet.
>3 Write In

Reinforcment
>1 Move now controlled ships into assist you
>2 Leave them to protect them from the Admiral, and to protect your bases from flank attacks
>3 Write in

Note: If you wish to suicide the ships, you'll need to resist the Admiral's hacking attempts aimed at you to give them any orders.

>>29590159
O.S.N can only handle so much bandwidth input at it's current level of intellect.

>>29590265
>Doors
Indeed not. All you have are vents which allow the bare minimal repair access. Sadly this means they go everywhere. Rhea is an expert infiltration and stealth operative, however, and knows how to navigate tight spaces like a pro.

You do have smaller bulk heads, but even as you close them off I should have mentionedShe worms her way past them, and blasts through others with explosives. As for turrets-no. You sacrificed space for the sake of making the interior much smaller and difficult to navigate. That's what is giving her so much trouble right now-finding where she is.

Your interior control isn't so much poor, as it is Rhea's specialty. Your interior weapons are only available at certain junctions. The androids are meant to provide that service otherwise.

>>29590340
a BC ramming at full speed might blow up the entire battleship with a core breach! we're trying to take that ship as in tack as possable. besides, the wombat will cripple it well enough along sides several well place shots into it's main thrusters.

>>29590394
1
3
1
1
Suicide

>>29590086
Let's have them all disabling Tartarus, mwuahaha!
Maybe they can lend the Wombat's sensor suite for aiming, letting them effectively strip the ship of external systems?

Oh! And we should get a ton of juicy Bandwidth from all these new ships we captured, should we not?

>>29590159
We went defensive because it gave us time for reinforcements to arrive and hacking to pay off.
NOW, however, we should go offensive, since the enemy BC has lost the majority of its support.

(And yes, focus hacking on denying the Admiral from taking anything back, no active retaliation unless he exposes openings that require little to exploit. In short, fight defensively here while we pummel his ship in realspace)

>>29590176
I believe that would damage us just as much as him. Newton's law, and our ship is not really made for ramming.

>>29590184
The 1d4chan page is great for that, you should pop by. Your work is very valued!

This
>>29590265
is me, lost my name again.

>>29590449
>Bandwidth from ships.
You only get that from redesigning them.

>>29590394

>Attack
>1 Remain defensive

>Bandwidth
>1 Spend on defending your hacked ships
>4 Use captured BCs to ram ships in the UGEI main fleet before overloading their cores.

>Androids
>1 Spend bandwidth to enhance reaction time

>Reinforcment
>1 Move now controlled ships into assist you

>>29590484
I support this

>>29590394
Attack
>1 Remain defensive

Bandwidth
>1 Spend on defending your hacked ships
>3 Spend on hacking new ships/sending more viruses
>4 Write In
Install polymorphic and trojan software on the captured BCs. If he regains control of them, then he's getting fucking infected. But above all, dump bandwidth into stopping Rhea. Tune in all sensors into locating her, and max boost androids into stopping her.

Androids
As I said above.

Reinforcement
>3 Write in
Reprogram ships to auto attack UGEI ships, and disable general comms to prevent further hacking. Only respond to a cryptographic all clear signal after the battle.

>>29590443
Change 3 to 1 and suicide bombers. I misread.

>>29590394
>2
>1 & >2 (And a tiny bit on) >3
>1 & >2
Half >1 and other half >2

>Your interior control isn't so much poor, as it is Rhea's specialty.
Even in a cramped area with little room to maneuver? Damn, she is good. And it seems our own androids keep losing track of her, if she has time to plant explosives on our bulkheads, move away, detonate, and then move through.

(Initially assumed she was under fire all the while)

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>>29590394
Attack
>2 Move into knife fight range to make sure of your Mass Drivers.
i forgot how effective is nukes in ship to ship fights?
bandwidth
>4 Write In
50/50 of 2 and 3.
can we not somehow order the captured BC to phyicaly eject their reactor cores? leaving them powerless/crippled?

androids
>1 Spend bandwidth to enhance reaction time
we know her main target, get ahead of her.!

Reinforcment
if the BW option is not possable for crippleing them, then
>1 Move now controlled ships into assist you
also, we can also move them up to other ships and set off their cores to blow them up as big freaking bombs.

>>29590570
Yeah, she must be incredibly enhanced to make this not a suicide mission for her. So we should do this:
>>29590550

>>29590394
Attack:
2. Offense time

BW
1. Defend captured ships

Androids
1. Spend BW to catch that damn rabbit.

Reinforcement
2. Leave them.

Focus most on the droids. Remove Rhea. Rhea is filth.

>>29590484
This

>>29590482
Was under the impression they had a basic amount even before the redesign, distinctly recall something like that when capturing ships earlier in the quest, but maybe the UGEI designs theirs vastly differently.

>>29590484
Seconding

>>29590534
>>29590623
>>29590640
I'm skeptical that this is not ballot-stuffing. We don't do "this" in A.I. quest.

>>29590394
Defense

Defend + Suicide

Aid the Droids

Bring the reinforcements

(tell the ufw when they get here that these are under our control)

>>29590630
it seems they are not to OUR specs of redesigns. i bet they could be run by human crews just as well as remote control. but not perform as well.

>>29590666
I can assure you that >>29590623 is not with the other two.

>>29590666
Eh, its my plan but I've got no reason to samefag.

>>29590666
Just lurking. QMs want us to second other decisions rather than be silent, at least that's what I've always heard.

I usually can't make these and only read the archives.

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Attack
>Defensive
>If holding BCs is successful, send them to suicide into Tartarus

Bandwidth (39) use
>Spend 15 on defending against the Vice Admiral
>Spend 14 on Androids, giving them each slightly increased speed

Reinforcments
>Bring them in.

>>29590570
>Rhea's infiltration ability
She is able to contort her body in any shape, you noticed during the pursuit. She unhooked her spine and folded under several large grates before snapping back into place and continuing on.
She is very good at her job.

>Move away
More like she slams explosives against the bulkhead to blow her way through, breech style. Her body appears to be resistant to explosions, you judge from this. Unaffected by shock waves and shrapnel.

>>29590630
Nah, the UGEI doesn't have your ship design secrets.
Oh but they wish they did.

Anywho!

If the above appears correct, please
roll
(4d100)

>>29590707
>>29590714
There just usually aren't this many people in here, we tend to cap out at ~6 votes, and have few parrots.

Whatever, it doesn't matter too much, but RAMMING SPEED may sound cool, but is fucking stupid. Way too many places for it to fail, and we lose more than we gain. Bad plan/10, would not support aside from humorous side-comment about how RAMMING SPEED IN SPAAAAACE is funny.

Rolled 76, 55, 21, 86 = 238

>>29590763
Rollin'

Rolled 76, 58, 41, 11 = 186

>>29590763
Still don't agree with the RAMMING SPEED, but otherwise sounds right. BW doesn't line up, though. Still have 10 BW left. Use that for aiming, we can use the help if we're going defense mode.

>She unhooked her spine and folded under several large grates before snapping back into place and continuing on
...
>Rhea
>Human
Pick one, apparently.

Rolled 96, 2, 95, 51 = 244

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>>29590769
If there is a possibility of losing these ships, might as well lose them in a very useful way.

Rolled 1, 71, 50, 16 = 138

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>>29590769
Not that anon but probably hiatus bringing people in.

>>29590609
we want Rhea alive.
oh yes,. battle music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojuqWY1I5U

>>29590811
Forgot to mention the bandwidth would be used to move the BCs since they are not under your immediate control otherwise. Sorry bout that.

I'm scared of tainting A.I. Quests luck with my own.

>>29590838
Eugh, that plan just gets worse and worse.

Whatever, at least this time when everyone dies, it won't be my fault.

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Rolled 44, 41, 32, 70 = 187

>>29590763
rolling!

>>29590838
Continue

>>29590838
Oh it does? Don't worry about suicide attacks then.

Focus all BW on fleet defense and on finding Rhea with our androids.

>>29590811
>Boarding action onto Athena
>Not suicide mission
If they are risking this, then she must be especially enhanced.

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Rolled 41, 11, 37, 33 = 122

>>29590838
can we hand them over to Kronos, Hades and Frotuna to move with out use using BW?

>>29590861
Worst case scenario we destroy the tartarus or lose the BCs back

>>29590890
If we hand them over the other guy will take them back

>>29590884
It's either spend it on moving them or spend it on firing them

>>29590745
You should pop by the 1d4chan page, is active more or less week around and not any particular time.

>>29590763
I also disagree with the ramming, even if we risk losing the ships, I still would prefer to use them to render the Tartarus dead and blind in space.

I also note that leaves 10 BW unaccounted for, I suggest they be used for attacking (aiming to cripple, not destroy) and bringing in reinforcements.

>>29590811
Superhuman/posthuman is still kind of human, right?

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>>29590917
i was thinking we will still fight the admiral for them, we just would not be spending extra BW to move them.

btw Program0, just how much more explosives does she have left on her? it seems she's used up quite a lot of bombs already?

>>29590763
And scratch slamming bulkheads ahead of her, then.
Try to slam them ON her.

>>29590981
See>>29590961

>>29590975
>Superhuman/posthuman is still kind of human, right?

I imagined she still had a human torso, but at this point, it seems that she's just a brain-in-a-box. If even that.

Hm, I suppose it's possible she's had her mind uploaded to a black box, making her an E.I. (elevated intelligence, to use Void Quest's term for this exact thing). Reason for that is "well, if it was once human, maybe it won't turn murderous and kill us all or go insane over hundreds of years!"

>>29590996
That also sounds reasonable.

>>29590996
Yeah, use fleet sensors to find the only human(?) being in our ship, and slam on her.

>>29590961
Maybe moving them takes more or less bandwidth than basic aiming and firing?

Now that I think about it, we may still be moving our ships by manually controlling each truster. We may want to write a quick program that simplifies the act of moving ships to a single command - the location we want them to be, and at what time we want them there/their velocity traveling there.

And/or a randomizing program that automatically generates a movement pattern for avoiding incoming fire when bandwidth is not actively being used to dodge it.

>>29591071
The ship redesign we customarily go through is effectively this. Writing a V.I. for the ship or letting a V.I. do it also solves this issue.

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>>29591031
what if THAT is not really her, but a droid being directed by her. she might be on the stealth ship?

>>29591123
We should bathe the stealth ship in atomic fire, then.

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>>29591123
RUSED AGAIN. CURSE YOU RHEAAAAAA.

>>29591123
We already jammed the comms.

>>29591131
NO! We need to capture that ship and it's stealth technology! Don't you know how hard stealth in space is?

>>29591157
Don't you know that sweet melody souls make as they're dissolved in the harsh radiation, and atomic fireballs?

>>29591113
Wouldn't that just change who needs to do the manual control, still costing just as much bandwidth to process, only now it costs the V.I.'s BW (which we assign it)?

I'd usually assume it was being done, but since our androids seem to have us manually controlling every limb, it wasn't that much of a leap of faith to assume we're controlling thrusters on ships manually as well.

>>29591157
Pretty easy actually, just have to contain heat and paint it black.

>>29591196
And then you can't move it whatsoever, because that would require expelling burning material in conventional engines.

>>29591157
Mass Effect has awakened me to so many tropes about it...

>>29591246
Just depends on how the engines work.

>>29591246
>burning material
Not necessarily. You can toss bricks out of a ship, and it'll move (even if only just). It just happens to be that burning fuel and things that produce a lot of radiation are far more effective for a Newtons to mass ratio. Where bricks generally fall short.

I guess we need to ask Program0 if stealth is difficult in this universe

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>>29590763
The Vice Admiral's arms are a flurry, directing and redirecting attacks and fire across the skies. Even in your defensive state, the Vice Admiral appears to have grown sick of holding back his volley.
"You will not stop our expansion, you lowly, terrorist pirate scum!" He growls, and you witness fury in those red eyes, that of man who believes he is righteous. Suddenly, the wings on the back of The Tartarus open up properly and thousands upon thousands of missiles pour out of the battleship. They cloud the void as they approach in all directions.
You hold firm against the onslaught and shoot down missile after missile, Fortuna and even Kronos attempt to assist, but the assault is too great. The Vice Admiral growls, chuckling, pleased with himself as the assault takes ship after ship.
"Experience the Death blossom's bloom. It's beauty is blinding."
In moments, Ussaihu's defense network is wiped out, as are your destroyers, and Big Hawk, one of your oldest ships. V.I. 4 goes up in flames, and V.I. 9's ship is crippled. Your battle cruisers hold firm thanks to some expert maneuvers by you, but some suffer quite a bit of damage regardless. Kronos growls at the display.
"I do hope the humans will reinforce soon. Our forces are dwindling."

You slam your mind against the Vice Admirals once again, the two of you locked in a struggle for supremacy. His mind is powerful, you're uncertain where he gets such strength, but it matches your own, and perhaps even exceeds it...
But that will not deter you.
You bring your mind to bare against your foe, and manage, just barely, to tear 6 of the Cruisers from him, while he holds onto four. You instantly give orders to your newly 'acquired' fleet before the man can try to prevent you from doing so again. Each Cruiser locks on target to smash into the side of the Tartarus. They move in somewhat slow, due to their size, and the Vice Admiral is immediately ontop of the new tactic.
(Cont)

>>29591263
And engines that are viable but do not expel hot material are pretty damn dificult.
>>29591279
Which isn't really viable without some fancy technology. Even chemical rockets limit us to glacial speeds because of how absurdly MUCH they must carry just to speed up and slow down.

Without fission/fusion engines, we'd probably be limited to ships that took months or years to enter a solar system in this universe as well (Since we wouldn't be able to carry enough chemicals to accelerate the ship to a reasonable speed while still being able to slow down afterwards).

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"You fool. Do you think I would allow such a suicidal tactic work on me!" He growls. "Dooming good men to die. I have no better proof of your piracy."
Indeed each of the Cruisers you detect are actually staffed with men. But it does not matter, you're not given the chance to change this decision. Instead, the Vice Admiral does not hesitate and unloads his close range weaponry on the incoming fleet, just as the rest of his entire fleet does. Within moments, the screams of those men fill the comm waves, as each and every ship is shot out of the sky.
Almost everyone, at least. One manages to get past and rams into the side of the Battleship with a ship jarringly explosion, causing the man himself to hesitate from the impact. A large hole is clear in the ship-one of the biggest signs of damage you've seen yet. Yet still, the battlefield shifts from one's favor to the other.

Rhea is fast. Every corner she turns, she pulls ahead of your android pursuers. You have to enhance their abilities, you decide. You push them harder, faster. Your heavy droids make their way to one of the key entrance points, ready to head Rhea off. Unit 2 is able to catch up to her, however. Finally. You can see the athletic woman, twisting and throwing herself at impossible angles inside vents. Her knowledge of this place is growing, you sense. She's stopped heading in circles, for one thing, and is now on the path.
But now that you've caught up, maybe you can try something...

As this thought hits you, space ripples near your back. You receive a sudden incoming transmission as well.
"Guild Master, we've come to assist."
Within seconds, dozens of Battlecruisers bearing the UGEI's logo warp in right behind your own fleet. They are out of range of the Tartarus, but they are moving in fast.
"Oh god..."
"Is that the Tartarus?! Fuck man, we can't-"
"Hold comms. We're moving in to engage at range. Prepare point defense batteries, and brace all hands. Missile specialist fleet detected."

[Discuss]

Damn, also forgot to mention your fleet from the other spots has jumped in as well.

>>29591431
Surely you meant to say UFW logo right...

Good tactics guys, we sure made some good decisions.

Shoot the big thing.

As for Rhea, crush her body. Missiles and lasers don't work, so hit it. Use the smaller drones to slow her down, and the bigger drones to rip her to shreds.

She'll live.

>>29591431
>>29591465
What's our current strength (including hacked ships) versus theirs?
Also. "I assure you, my UFW allies, that together we can accomplish the impossible."

We need to:
Engage PD heavily.
Hack the SHIT out of his guys. Lets do that 'crewed-ship into the side of the Tartarus' again, it'll DESTROY morale. Or, even better, collide crewed ships into other crewed ships. Regardless, focus fire on the Tartarus.
And finally, lets boost the droids following Rhea; tell them to go for the kill. If she's as enhanced as we think she is, nothing less than complete brain destruction will stop her.

>>29590975
As I said, BW to command the ships.

>>29590996
Shall be considered, I assure you.

>>29591123
>The shadowruns
Hehehe. I wish I was that clever.

>>29591350
Stealth is indeed hard.
The check to see Rhea was like, 95.
You managed to get higher then that. Twice.

>>29591431
Program0, can you provide a sit rep? How many more ships does each side have left.

>>29591543
Yeah, I think at this point, we need this.

>>29591488
Uh, yes. I did.
Damn you, minor errors...

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>>29591431
"UFW! Good timing! i need help! sweep the smaller ships out, i'll handle Tartarus! "

with the UFW help, it should help free up our BW some more as well. i hate to say this to Apollo, you need to sleep for a bit, we need your BW.

>>29591571
Damn. I was really hoping for some epic-tier intrigue right there.

>>29591540
>You managed to get higher then that. Twice.
And then subsequently rolled a 1.

>>29591573
That would literally lobotomize him, or kill him if you take it all.

>>29591431
I like whoever the leader of the ufw forces is.

>>29591538
Ophion

Battleship x1 (Ophion)
Carrier x1 (Fortuna)
Battlecruiser x11 (Kronos, Hades)
Light Cruiser x1
Support x3
Destroyer Frigates x0
Destroyed: 21 DE, 1 BC, Big Hawk, Little Tim Light Cruisers (V.I. 4, 9)

UFW

Battlecruisers x30

Vice Admiral Prometheus

-Flagship 'Tartarus' Battleship x1 (Unique ship, Heavy missile weapons)
Battlecruiser x17
Destroyer Frigate x130
Destroyed: 60 DE, 6 BC

>>29591431
"Attention all hands - hold fast. The Tartarus's Death Blossom has already been spent, and she has taken massive damage.
Her support fleet is crippled by multiple viruses and some of it has been turned against her.
In short, the odds are not nearly as long as they appear."
This should all be broadcast to the UFW, but not the following, obviously.
"Kronos, cut out her engines, if you will."

>>29591593
>And then subsequently rolled a 1.

>>29589901
>Reminder, crit fails and successes don't count when I ask for multi-rolls. Too damn common.

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>>29591540
it's not shadowruning if you are are cunning, it IS shadowrunning when you screw over your buddies.

>>29591543
yea, i'm lossing track as to how many ships the UGEI have, we have, and the UFW have.

>>29591593
No, just "kill" him temporarily. We can bring him back online at any time, it's just unpleasant.

>>29591593
Nah, last thread. You guys got a 95. And I asked for 5 rolls. Then got a 97.

>>29591620
>>29591637
here you are~

>>29591620
Ahh, so we're not doing too badly.

With our new reinforcements, the Vice Admrial will throw everything he has against us to try and destroy our fleet before we link up.

Fleet
>Focus on missile defence

Androids
>Shoot Rhea with the aim of crippling her (leg/lower torso shots). This will prevent her movement towards our black box.

BW
>Focus on aiding fleet accuracy and stealing more UGEI ships

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>>29591593
it's only tempory and we NEED BW.
>>29591621
>>29591621
i like this. i second this!
>>29591627
yea.. i'm not worried, we get more out of the BW than you think.

>>29591620
Instruct the UFW to fire on the enemy BCs. Open up with all guns on the Tartarus, but split our bandwidth between hacking and stopping Rhea. The attack is just to keep emailing busy.

>>29591730
Them busy.

Fucking autocorrect

>>29591431
Ok, for Rhea
>Run, shoot, bodyslam and dog pile. Devote Bandwidth for this
Basically this
>>29591520

Also, continue hacking attempt on Tartarus.

Slam any captured ship on the Tartarus's engines. He will not escape.

>>29591621
This

Continue as is for Androids

Shut down Fortuna for temp bandwidth boost

Use remaining bandwidth for all out hacking assault.

Next action.

Attack
>1 Engage with the UFW at range, stand off to limit losses but also open up on the enemy fleet
>2 Turtle and defend. The UFW may not be able to handle the ships left, but better theirs then yours.
>3 Close in, and take the brunt of the damage. Your Battleship is equipped with heavy Mass Drivers after all.
>4 Write in.

Androids
>1 Open fire on Rhea's legs
>2 attempt a grapple to immobilize and attack via omni tool. She has a slot for one, after all on the back of her neck.
>3 Use lasers to cripple her indiscriminately.
>4 Write In

Bandwidth
Use on
>1 Accuracy
>2 Androids
>3 Hacking
>4 Write in

>>29591540
Ehr, I believe the question was if it was hard to DO, not if it was hard to detect.
(Is even more impressive that she could dock stealthily - even asteroids would trigger a proximity warning and they're as dead as things get in space, which implies some kind of cloaking technology as well)

>>29591573
Derp, after making sure we actually could set him in sleep mode when necessary we actually forgot to do so (until now).

As for Rhea, I'd recommend sending every Android we have on her, assigning them at LEAST 14 BW (3 to those that are actually close to her and only 1 to those lagging behind - figure there's not much bandwidth can do to improve basic running/driving/hovering speed), and slamming the bulkheads on some part of her as she seems able to blow through them with little trouble.

Was about to suggest trying to space her, but remembered there's really no reason for our ships to carry an atmosphere..

By the way, if any android gets her in its sights, all their spare bandwidth should instantly be assigned to it to put it into slow-mo mode so that it can execute a perfectly aimed shot or two while the others get in position in her path.

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>>29591620
The battle as I see it currently.

Obviously we're the slightly more advanced/smaller ships due to them being optimized for VI usage.

>>29591716
Our Fleet should focus on not getting shrekt by missiles, and his forces.
Agreeing on using our BW to continue hacking. Maybe we should go for a full frontal assault on the Admiral's mind?

Also, to the Admiral:
"How many people have died, just today, Admiral? How many have died in the name of your regime of hatred and slavery? How many have died on our ships? Did you even know your crew member's names? I knew mine. Every single crew member's name. But bygones are bygones, and the dead are dead. So tell me; how are you going to impress me now, Admiral?"

>>29591837
Attack
>1 Engage with the UFW at range, stand off to limit losses but also open up on the enemy fleet

Androids
>1 Open fire on Rhea's legs

Bandwidth
>1 Accuracy (30%)
>2 Androids (70%)

>>29591837
1
2 (DOG PILE)
3/4: Lets wreck the Admiral's mind. I want a husk, people!

>>29591838
Ah, my mistake.
Well it is pretty high tech. This particular model has a minimal heat signature, and the only reason you noticed it was because of a chance heat spike.
Poor Rhea can't catch a break.

>>29591895
This was exactly what I was thinking, Dog pile.

>>29591844
lets hope we don't run into reavers well they would not we as big a threat to us as they would be to meatbags

>>29591788
what? no! she's fighting along side us! shut down Apollo, he's not helping us now. and the formen V.I. are not eating any BW.

I really hope we capture Rhea alive, that shit would be hilarious.

>>29591837
>2 Turtle and defend. The UFW may not be able to handle the ships left, but better theirs then yours.

>4 Write In
Fire while moving in. Basically dog pile her under a ton of metal. She'll survive.

Bandwidth
>2 Androids

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